Aunty Donna Podcast - InterstellarArmageddonTokyoDisneySeaIncredicoasterPooSoup
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Folks, welcome to the Aunty Donna podcast.
My name's Broden.
And I just wanted to say this episode has got a lot of fun in Estella, Poo Soup, in
Credit Coast.
It's so much fun, but it's better to just enjoy the wild ride and go to Aunty Donna
Club Powerpite, patreon.com, have fun there, get all the extra bonus stuff.
Enjoy the episode.
Welcome to the future.
Hi, welcome to the Auntie Donna podcast. Today I'm going to be talking to two members of Auntie Donna, Proto Kelly
and Mark Manano. What's up?
Pleased to be here.
Thanks for having us.
So nice to be here. Thank you for having us.
I'm the host of the Aunty Donna podcast. My name is Zachary Rowane. Now let's talk.
So a little context for everyone out there in the radio world.
We just finished recording in the morning, quite possibly one of the worst podcasts we've
ever done, in which we went in with this sort of pretty loose concept that we were going
to record last week.
We didn't have time for it because we did two LAN parties and we came into it fresh
this time.
It was pretty bad.
It was the first one of the morning and we got into a thing about Elmbrot and loves poo
soup.
After that, Zach just said, let's roll straight into another one.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
I'm feeling this energy.
I'm going to lead us.
And then we had what maybe less than a minute, less than a minute to sort of prepare for
this podcast.
And he's taken us straight into Poo Soup.
Zach, go on.
You got nothing?
That's all you had?
All right, Broden, do you want to steer this ship?
Okay, I got it.
I got it.
Um, uh, welcome to the Auntie Donna podcast.
My name is Mark.
Your name is? My name is Mark. And your Donna podcast. My name is Mark. Your name is?
My name is Mark.
And your name is?
My name is Mark.
And we got three Marks, Marky Mark Mark, and we're here and guess what we're
talking about today?
What?
It's poo soup.
It's poo soup.
And we're talking about the kind of ways you can make poo soup out of things that
aren't poo, things that aren't poo.
Things that aren't poo.
Time out.
Oh no.
Time out.
Yes, Zach?
I don't want to talk about poo soup. It's gross.
You brought it up, man.
Yeah, but then I was going to move on to my actual idea for the podcast.
Which was?
Oh, let's go back out. Back out. Let's do it.
Let's get out of time.
Hit some fun music, Lindsay. Alright, we'll hit some fun music. actual idea for the podcast. Which was? Oh, let's go back out, back out. Let's do it. Get back out, let's get out of the camera.
Hit some fun music, Lindsay.
All right, well, hit some fun music.
But take your time, we know we've just thrown that at you,
Lindsay, that's- We can't just throw that at you.
I want the audience to know that when we say-
Oh, that was pretty quick.
That was very quick.
Here we go.
All right, yeah.
["Spring Day in the Garden"]
Now, you're probably gonna think that I didn't have an idea
and I'm just making something up
based on the vibe of this music, but it's just a coincidence.
Welcome to my old timey saloon at Sovereign Hill.
I'm the barkeep here at this saloon here, and I'm here and I'm serving beers and gruel
for all the gold miners.
Mr Prospector, Mr Prospector! Hey cowboy! I wasn't
talking to you. I get that but do you want a beer before you talk to the
Prospector? I'll have a whiskey. I'll get you a whiskey, one whiskey coming up. How
much? That'll be one cent. I'm trying to talk to my friend. That'll be one cent. One pence. Yeah, put on my tab.
Alright.
Mr Prospector, Mr Prospector.
Hi, I'm playing a prospector today, but I'm actually a drama student at the University
of Ballarat Arts Academy.
Mr Prospector.
Yes, I'm a prospector working at Sovereign Hill.
I wanted to know, what time is the pantomime on in the Victoria Theatre
because my grandmother brought my grandmother here. Time out, time out. Why should I say nona?
No, I just want to give you full context. Mark, you have worked at this open air museum Sovereign
Hill which is set in 1954, 1854, 1850s, 1864, 1867.
It's kind of like between like early 1800s and 1860.
It's the main street of a Gold Rush era town in Ballarat.
When Ballarat was as big as Melbourne, when Australia had one of the biggest economies
in the world due to its heaps of having heaps of gold.
Lots of gold.
My question to you is, is there any things we should steer towards that would be funny for a podcast where we're in Sovereign Hill?
Hmm.
I can, and I also just want to say-
No, no, I don't think so.
Well, that's awful to hear.
That's really awful to hear.
There's nothing that comes to mind.
Mark?
In terms of stuff that's like funny that like happens at Sovereign Hill or hap-
Please.
I'm, I'm real, I'm trying to think.
Most days I went there, it was just like,
turn up at nine, make sure you're not late,
clock in, do your work.
I said, is lighting fires in like a big steel drum funny?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it funny?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that'll be good.
I think we can get that out.
Because I did a lot of that.
They have steel drums back then.
Zach, I can't tell you how furious I am for you demanding we start a new podcast.
What do you mean did they have steel drums back then?
I think this is ripe and it doesn't have to be sovereign hill.
It can be any cowboy era, any country.
We could do cowboys.
Was that cowboy?
We can't do Native American.
No.
No, absolutely not.
Would never.
But.
But we can do cowboys.
We can do gold miners.
We can't do the Chinese gold miners.
No, would never.
But they were around.
They were around.
We can address them.
So that populates the world.
We can talk of them.
But our characters would be very racist.
English or Irish, I think.
So the English or Irish or American.
There was one, there was one log.
There was one Italian fellow walking around. Oh, you could play him. Yeah, maybe. What was one there was a one vlog there was one Italian fellow
walking around. Oh you could play him. Yeah maybe what was his name? Fabiano?
Something. I just want to say the Sovereign Hill I think has thrown you
guys. I just said that off the top of my head. I meant more prospect in town but
we can go in fact. Well I said hey Mr., Mr. Prospector. Lindsay, can we get some? You said, do you want a beer?
What do you mean? Yeah, because I'll serve an ale at the tap house.
Yeah, Lindsay.
I'm not mad at you.
Can I get some futuristic music lined up and take your time?
But I think that the Sovereign Hill thing has thrown you.
So we're going to change the location.
We're going to be in the future now.
Um, what do you want me to do?
I've got it. Tell me, are we anything you want?
Broden, here's my question.
That's the beauty of the future.
Here's my question.
Are we in the future from the prospecting era, which would just be like now?
Or 2008.
2008.
Yeah.
We are dropping the prospecting future.
I have a funny idea.
Because if it was 18-
Just improv it out!
It's the horror, it's the future of an 1850s person prospecting what they imagined 2008
would be like.
I feel that might be a little restrictive.
Well I was going to say even like a hundred years in the future, in 1850, that's only
1950.
And back then they were doing the jitterbug and so it's a little
steampunk for me and the nerds ruined that for me i think i love steampunk but the nerds ruined it
in terms of this podcast i think we could do the rest of the podcast about a prospector traveling
in time to 100 100 years forward in the future to 1950 seeing the jitterbug and being like god
god damn the future is crazy yeah but 19 that'll still be you could be a robot you've always wanted
to be a robot but it's their perception of a hundred years from now yes yes they wouldn't
have future music their perception of future music it be I don't know piano that sounds different
Do you understand that's what that is?
No, but what can I hear the music please? Oh, okay. Let's judge it based on the music
See the oh, this is like interstellar. Let's do an interstellar one. We already have but let's do it again. What I got this
I got this I got
Alright, alright
Start again Lindsay start from the start when we're ready. Okay, everyone just take a deep breath. I've got your back mark Yep. Yep. I've got your back and just and just checking this podcast is gonna be like a premium one that we released like during
The week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah cool. Yeah
Thanks for trusting me on this guys
You I've got your back man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We are fully supporting you on this.
Can you not talk over the start? I'm sorry. I did not know it started.
No worries Zach. I apologize. I'm going to give you whatever support you need here.
I love you Zach. What do you need from me? Can you tell me what you need?
I just need to set the world and then we can... You are my brother. I would take a
fucking bullet for you. Just tell me what you need.
Whatever you need, I'll get it to you and give it to you.
Give it to you good.
I have full trust, full support.
You have my unwavering...
...love and allegiance.
Hey, just don't talk. Let me set the world.
Let me set the tone.
Okay, I got this.
I trust you.
Okay. Lindsey?
tone. Okay, I got this. I trust you. Okay. Lindsay. Oh, hello there. Welcome to NASA.
You know that the world is going to end because of the ash, the meteorite, but we actually have a plan. We need to send you and your friend, Mark Ambroto, we need
you to train the NASA astronauts how to do comedy because they're going to
comedy the asteroid away. But I'm just a corn man. You're just a corn man. You know what,
you're right. All we got is corn on our farm. It's easier to teach comedians astronaut than the other way around.
So I'm going to send you through a wormhole.
Okay, now it's installing him.
To the asteroid which is in the Kuiper belt.
Are we getting him again?
Well, it wasn't in the Kuiper belt.
And the ooo and ooo.
And you're going to stop the ass.
You're going to stop the-
I trusted you.
I trusted- can we cut the music, Benzie, please?
I fucking- I trusted you, man.
Oh my god.
I'm so sorry.
Oh my god.
I gave you unconditional love and support.
I backed you to the hilt.
The things I've said to you, I haven't said to my real life brother.
I haven't said those things to my father.
Have you said them to my brother?
Yeah, I say them to Mitch Kelly all the time.
I texted him that the other day.
I love you, I trust you, I'll fucking do anything for you, take a bullet.
I've said those things to Broden's brother, but not even my own.
And I've said them to Scott, my brother.
Sorry, can I just get some clarity? I've said them to Scott, my brother. Sorry, can I just get some
clarity what's the issue here? I've said them to Patrick. Yeah, I've said them. What's the issue here?
The issue? What's the issue? You guys seem really upset at me. You were just apologising. Yeah,
well, man can change his mind. What's your problem with me right now? Just that, well, we gave you our full undying trust.
We said, we're willing to go to war with you.
You're our captain.
You're saying we're going into no man's land.
And it's going to be-
In improv comedy.
Yeah, the improv comedy version.
No disrespect to any war veterans out there.
Or comedians.
We know that it's harder than war.
Or people that were, yeah, we know it's harder than war.
Unless you got Wonder Woman on your side,
because then when she gets that shield out.
Yeah, you're ruined.
And then the bracelets as well,
she can just like,
bounce bullets up, pew pew pew pew.
Like in World War I.
Yeah.
In World War I, but then Marvel,
Captain America, those Nazis were fucked.
Yeah, they were fucked when Captain America,
and he was just a skinny little shit,
and then they pumped him full of blue
And he had muscles for days
But the problem issue was so the issue was um
You know what I can't even remember I'll remind you yeah, so you said I've got something let's do this episode
Let's do it
And now we find ourselves and so you I've got something, let's do this episode, let's do it.
And now we find ourselves. And so you say to me that you think I haven't delivered
when I've taken us to an old prospecting town.
I've taken us to a world on the brink of apocalypse
with only a crew of comedians to stop the...
So we have to... do we have to teach?
I've taken you to a world of Auntie Donna people eating poo soup.
Not one, but three wonderful rich ideas and you tell me that I have not delivered?
Maybe you boys should look inwards and think maybe that it was Zach who delivered
the most. Great, keep going with that. And that is why we're going back to the Armageddon
Interstellar one. Alright Lindsay, play the music. I trust you man. Get on the ship. Alright,
we're here, we're on the ship. Oh, I forgot to mention If you go close to the black hole time runs different and the little girl from the Nutcracker movie becomes the lady from
Molly's game 30 and Molly's game. Don't worry. We won't go near the black hole. Oh
Gotta go near the black hole. Oh, well. Oh well
You gotta go down to the black hole now. We're down, we're in the black hole.
I know you come back up. We're back. We're back. It's been seven... thirty years. It's been seven
thirty years but it's okay we're alright. Yeah. We're supporting you. I've got some messages from
your from Timothy Chamolais and the girl from the Nutcracker. Watch them, watch them. We're sad. We'll move on.
Well sit in that for a little bit. Have a cry.
I regret, I slightly regret my decisions. I'm sad. I miss my son. I miss my daughter.
Now we gotta go to the wormhole.
We're in the wormhole.
And now we're at the other end of the wormhole.
We're there. We're in the bookcase.
No, that's interstellar. This is my story. And now we're at the other end of the wormhole. We're there. We're in the bookcase. No, that's Interstellar.
This is my story.
So now...
I'm sorry.
Keep going, Jase.
Now we're in the Oort cloud.
Okay.
Okay.
And here's the asteroid that's going to destroy Earth.
We taught it comedy.
It's changed.
It laughed.
It broke up.
Its trajectory has been changed.
But there's the biggest chunk is still on its way to Earth.
We ate it.
Um, but you couldn't eat it all.
So you have to sacrifice yourselves.
Okay, we die.
The end.
Alright, Lindsay, that's stop that music now.
And now while they yell at me some more, can you please line up some like,
like upbeat orchestral music, something like upbeat.
Upbeat orchestral. Just like upbeat and orchestral music, something like upbeat, upbeat,
orchestral,
just like upbeat and stuff.
But you guys yell at me about how that was bad.
And so,
okay.
Well, you want us to do that?
Yeah.
You got it.
Um, you,
I, I fucking, how dare you?
You did a bad job.
That was, that was awful.
Is it this podcast?
It was bad.
Upbeat orchestral. It had the fun.
It had the fun.
Don't work too hard on finding the fun.
Don't worry too much.
Just whatever you get close enough.
That's hard.
Whatever you get close enough.
But I want to say that that story had the fun and the action of Armageddon, but the
pathos of Interstellar.
That was a hit.
In regards to a podcast or a movie.
If it was a movie, it would have been a hit.
It was great as an improvisational podcast.
I loved the bit when you guys sacrifice yourselves. That was a really beautiful offer.
You guys did that.
Well, we were just following your lead.
No, I think you guys did a pretty good job on that too.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And if I think this podcast lives or dies, we were all in this together, you know, I wouldn't blame me for,
because I did admittedly say you had this, that I had this and I had a good idea and I didn't.
I just liked this energy, you know, I just, I love riffing with you boys. You're a vibe man.
And I love riffing with you boys and I just thought we had a good energy.
If I had known that we really only had five minutes of it left, would I have committed
to a half hour podcast?
The answer is no.
But Lindsay, do we have any kind of music?
Yep, and you've been going for 15 minutes.
Great.
Has this been going for 15 minutes?
Yeah. Isn't
that interesting how um, how time... That's because we went to the black hole. How time
works. Or not really. Works differently because it has felt like like a long time.
Yeah. It's like Timothée Chamoulet has become Ben Affleck's brother. Do we need
to go to an ad break? I don't know if we do that. It doesn't feel right putting an ad on this. It doesn't feel right profiting off of this.
We'll be right back.
Hi, welcome back and welcome, Lindsay, do the music.
To the 97th Academy Awards, where Interstellar Armageddon has been nominated for a record 43
awards.
19th.
Name the categories. It's been nominated for a record 43 awards. 19th. Name the categories. It's
been nominated for... how many did I say? 43. Oh goodness. It's been nominated for
Best Picture. 1. Best Director. 2. Best Original Screenplay. 3. Best Adapted
Screenplay. 4. Best Actor in a Leading Role for Broden Kelly. 5. Best actor in a leading role for Broden Kelly. 5. Best actor in a
supporting role for Mark Banana. 6. Best actress in a leading role for Olivia
Coleman. 7. Best actress in a supporting role for America Ferreira. That's 8. Best
act- best um best camp- best original song. 9. 4. I believe in the wormhole by Lady Gaga 10 best original
score from Hans from Lindsay picking songs 11 best documentary for the making
of Armageddon interstellar 12 best cinematography for Roger Deakins.
13.
Best VFX from Animal Logic.
14.
Best hair and makeup.
You forget 15.
You forget how many 43 is.
Best hair and makeup to that Japanese dude for making Broden look like that chick from Fox News
I'd like I
Don't want to okay
And give us more though. Yeah, and give us the last give us the last 20 or so. Okay best
Nah, I'm out. Best boy. Best best boy for Broden Kelly. Short films. But it's not a short film.
Feature-length film. Okay. I was just trying to give you Moroska award. Yeah, but I can't go like
No, there's no short film attached to it. I'm so sorry. Oh
Yeah, best short film for the first 10 minutes that they released a week before
Attached to Mission Impossible. Yeah, Attached to Mission Impossible. Animation, best animation a thing. Best director Zachary. I've already said best director
Yeah Best director, Zachary. I've already said best director. Yeah. Best, yeah animation is a thing.
Best animation, although it's gonna lose
to that Japanese one.
Well, gee, we better get ready.
The Oscars are tonight.
I'm wearing my best tuxedo and I got a top hat on too.
Shine my shoes.
Broden, do you need me to shine your shoes?
Please.
Wishy, wishy, washy, wishy, wishy, wishy, washy, wishy,
wishy, wishy,hi washi and I'm shining
your shoes.
Wishi wishi washi and a wishi wishi washi and a wishi wishi washi and I'm shining your
shoes.
Okay, the limousine is here.
Should we get in?
Oh goodness me.
I can hardly fit in my Prada dress.
Um, what do you want me to do about that?
It's straight off the runway and it's made of metal and it's
Cutting off the circulation to my head Zach's gone very avant-garde for the Oscars. He's making
Pro lapsed
All right, that's a extreme prolapse. In some ways.
Knock knock knock knock knock!
Hello?
Hello I'm from LAPD!
Oh god.
Broden, quick!
Cut the music.
Get Zach's head.
Hide it in the broom closet.
Get Zach's body.
Hide it in the broom closet as well.
We've got to cover up this murder so that LAPD don't-
Well it's not a murder.
Well I know but they're going to think it was a murder because I've been in a-
I've been having an affair with Zach's head.
Just the head.
So, and they know that usually it's the jealous lover that commits the crime.
They think it's the jealous lover.
Come in.
Wait, wait, wait!
We're trying to- don't get them in yet.
Can we try and sort out what we're- wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No worries.
We're just getting ready for the Oscars.
So that's why we don't have our pants on yet.
I don't want you to see our dick and balls.
Hide Zach's head in the broom closet and get Zach's body.
Okay, I did it.
And hide it in the broom closet.
Now, let's get our story straight.
Okay.
We never met Zach.
We've never met him, we've never heard of him, and he was not here. Okay. We never met Zack. We've never met him. We've never heard of him
and he was not here. Okay. And you and I are best friends. And we work at Sovereign
Hill. We work at Sovereign Hill together and we, you know, and we, and you love
Poo Soup. Alright. Hello. I love Poo Soup. Me too. So hey there. I'm here to
We haven't done anything. I'm you I know I'm going to the Oscars. Would you like to come? Well, of course
I'm the LAPD for your motorcade. What?
Your what? I'm your motorcade
Motorcade. Oh, you're not you. I'm gonna ride the motorcycle
Motorcycle in front of your car. Hmm. Something's off about this police officer. Yeah, that's right. It's me Zach
Oh my head didn't pop off from a too tight pride address straight off the runway made out of steel made out of metal metal
Yeah, like oh like I'm I think um
What's the the rapper?
Little Nas X's look at the Met Gala, but a dress.
Hey, Zach, if you're not the police officer,
then who's dead bodies in that cupboard?
It's just Cool Zeke.
Oh, Cool Zeke from a coffee cafe.
Zach's alter, Zach's cool cousin.
Yeah, and he's got a my cousin. From my coffee cafe. Zach's alter, Zach's cool cousin.
Yeah, and he's got a removable head so he's fine.
Oh.
Do you guys want to go to the Oscars?
Yes, I do.
Let's go now.
Let's go now.
Hop in your limousine, I'll drive in front on my motorcycle.
But who's going to drive the limousine?
Hi, how you going?
Oh, good. Are you a limo driver?
Yeah, hey. Oh, guys, I just got a video from Rich Eisen
Who's that? I mean Michael Eisner. Oh
Wow, he's saying we have to get to the premiere as soon as possible
But avoid all the premiere the Oscars premiere and we have to avoid all this mean the Oscars and avoid all this damn
paparazzi on the way
Do you just mean the Oscars? And avoid all this damn paparazzi on the way.
Do you just mean the Oscars?
Yeah.
Okay.
But I'm trying to, what I'm trying to do is.
Just say that.
I'm just trying to do the California Adventure Ride Hollywood limo, which was a thing that
Michael Eisner did when he made California Adventure Park in the 80s.
No, I understand.
I just think adding premiere to the Oscars confuses it.
But that's what the ride was. I'm just, but I'm trying to make it work with...
To get to the premiere of the Oscars.
As soon as you said that, I was like, wait, who distributed this film?
And then, because this doesn't sound like a Disney film.
And then I remember Touchstone was their label for more adults.
So it was a Touchstone film and that's OK. That works.
But the premiere part does kind of clash with the original story we planned.
But we're in, we're in the defunct California Adventure Park ride, Hollywood limo now.
Okay.
Okay, that's fine.
Just say we're going to the Oscars.
But aren't we staying at that Spanish revival one that's just like a block away from the
Oscars?
Yes.
Yeah.
So, we're like half a block.
The limo's more for to roll in.
It's not like we have to go through many streets or anything.
Avoid the paparazzi.
We go half a street, so we're staying at, what's it called?
The new, I can't remember what it's called, but it's literally half a block up.
We're going to go down the street and then just in.
Well, yeah.
And the paparazzi are all at the front.
We could walk, but it's more a perception thing.
Yeah, well what ride then should we be on then?
Could we be on the Matterhorn? Or the Incredicoaster?
Oh, Incredicoaster is good. But that's in, the problem is the
Incredicoaster is in Anaheim, which is like 45 minutes away and we've got to get to the Oscar.
45 on a very good day. But also Jack Jack has gone crazy and we have to get him while his powers are going absolutely
bazooka Joe.
That's the plot for the Incredicoaster Disneyland California Adventure Park.
It's a roller coaster themed to the Incredibles.
Was California Screaming and then the narrative is that California Screaming was gifted to
the Incredicoaster.
Yeah, because they turned it into a Pixar pier, that whole area. The Imagineers did their best with a hard task.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, the Imagineers went to work on rebranding a unsuccessful theme park, California Adventure,
and turning it more to the IP and assets of the Disney brand.
And if you want to see, you know, if you're going to go and blame the Imagineers for California
Adventure, which I think is now a great park, but if you really want to, if you want to see, you know, if you're going to go and blame the Imagineers for California adventure, which I think is now a great park.
But if you really want to, if you really want to see, um, what, why it's not
the Imagineers fault, you've got to head to Disney sea because it's there that
you see the Imagineers visions untethered from the executive Disney.
See, I've not been there.
So I have to stay.
I step out of conversation.
No, no, don't step out. It's actually really quite incredible because the whole sort of ethos of the park.
You can be the conduit for the audience.
Because Tokyo Disneyland, it's still interesting even if you haven't been there.
Is there a Cars Land at DisneySea?
No, there's not.
Sounds like shit.
No, no, no, because there is a, the kids area is like an underwater Little Mermaid themed park. And it's really quite incredible to see.
And I will say the cars ride, you know the cars ride,
the mechanics of that, the sort of-
Engineering.
The ride itself, not the theming,
but the ride itself is used in a 20, no,
Journey to the Center of the earth themed ride.
Which is my favourite.
Probably better than Cars or Test Track.
It's probably the best execution.
And one of the best animatronics you'll ever see.
Oh, fantastic.
I still love Guardians of the Galaxy.
Oh yeah, that's still up there with me.
I know I preferred the Guardians of the Galaxy breakout to Tower of Terror.
To Tower of Terror.
Sue me, but I agree.
Controversial in the Disneyland theme park audience and fan base.
Just because it's a little more, the Guardians of the Galaxy one is a little more intense in terms of the velocity and the,
and I thought the music was fine.
Although the theming and one of the, in the Tokyo Disney Sea, the tiki torch, the tiki character, the way, how
did they make, I went twice.
So Mark said to me before I went to Japan, he said to me, he said there's an effect,
and he was like, I want to know how they did it.
And I thought he was talking about the ride.
This effect happens in the line.
In the line.
This effect happened.
And then I got onto the ride and I did the ride and I'm like, oh,
Mark, the effect isn't that, because he didn't tell me what the effect was.
And I thought you were talking about the mirror effect with the...
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm quite aware.
I'm very aware of how they did it.
And I thought, Mark, that's so obvious how they did that, right?
And I was a little embarrassed for Mark.
But then I thought to myself, but I must go back on the ride to see how they did the effect
in the line.
And it was only when I was on for the second time, I remembered you telling me the story about getting back on the ride to see how they did the effect in the line and it was only when I was on for the second time I remembered you telling me the story about getting back on
the ride and I thought to myself, oh, oh, this is the effect you must have been talking
about and I do not know how they did it.
I cannot figure it out and I turned to an American father, an American father was there
with us.
I had the same exchange.
Did you really?
And I was like, this is my second time, I don't know how they did that.
And he said, I don't know how they did it either.
I had it with a Japanese couple and we exchanged similar platitudes, not with words, but with
expression.
Yeah, you understood, there was an understanding there.
Can I interject?
Oh, please.
What should we call this episode?
Well, this is our Disneyland chat.
Disneyland chat.
Because this is the thing, Broden,
to be an Imagineer, which is it's a portmendo of imagine
and engineer.
It's basically the title of anyone
that works designing theme parks for Disneyland.
You have to have a very in-depth, almost nerdy
knowledge of architecture, of history, of literature. And then it's the executives that
really push them away from that kind of thinking. Whereas DisneySea is such a beautiful, interesting
exploration of all of those things. It evokes the Chicago World's Fair. Am I right in assuming,
am I wrong?
I believe Disney sees one of the few parks
operated not by Disneyland, but-
No, you're not wrong.
No, you're not wrong.
I believe it's the acquisition of-
Tokyo Land Corporation.
The Oriental Land Company.
Oh, is it?
Is there something to that?
I do believe so.
They are approaching it with that there's a slower sense, they make decisions, I think,
more slowly, more calmly.
As is my understanding, the whole reason the park exists is that they opened Tokyo Disneyland
in 1988.
Desperate to get the contract.
Yes, absolutely.
And they were like, seven years this will take to turn a profit.
But it was so popular amongst Japanese locals that it turned in four.
In four years it turned a profit.
And they went, well, we want a second park.
And they said, they said, we have one condition.
Well, they would have said in Japanese.
They would have said in Japanese.
But there may have been a translator.
So the translator probably holding a little notebook.
They said, our only condition.
Could have been in English.
Could have been in English.
Yeah, they, you know.
For business, yeah.
They said, our only condition is we want no budget.
We just want to make the greatest theme park ever.
And in my opinion, they did.
You can actually go on the Oriental Land Company's website. You can actually go on the Oriental Land Company's website.
You can actually go on the Oriental Land Company's
website, which I did over a delicious Japanese curry
in Tokyo.
Oh, lovely.
And they have a, it's very Japanese,
they have a very detailed story of the execution.
So they actually talk a little bit about, even though they
did have no budget, there's a great ship
in the American waterfront themed section.
Let me ask you both a question.
Oh yes, I'll just explain this ship.
I thought you'd come to the end of your point.
No, no. The Imagineers wanted it the size of a real ship. The Oriental Land Company
said could we maybe make it a little smaller? And the Imagineers won out. Now where are
you going to see that in an American park? And that ship is stunning.
It is gorgeous. And it has this sort of air of, um...
I thought it was a real ship.
It has like an open... this is what, this was my opinion, my sort of thing.
This is funny, yeah?
No. Oh, isn't it? Oh, I'm happy to stop.
No, no, no. I've got more questions I want to ask and put to you as park lovers.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
When I go to Disneyland, Anaheim.
Anaheim, which is the original in Anaheim.
Of course.
California.
Definitely an overseen, the magnum opus of Walt Disney,
the creator of Disney parks and films and series.
But let's not dismiss Roy O. Disney's role.
No, Roy as the financial overseer.
But Roy and Walt together made truly something that as far as a work of art, his attention
to detail can be seen everywhere in that park.
And for me, it's a large portion of the magic of that land.
One person's fully thought through connection to a place. And you do feel it in the different lands,
in future land, in Toon Town, in Star Wars land,
these places that Walt created.
Sure, sure.
Now, there's a few issues there with what you said,
but I'm not gonna.
The magic. Tomorrowland.
The magic of that is for me a large portion
of going to that place.
Is that in, is that there when you go to these Shanghai Disney, Tokyo Disney Sea, Tokyo Disney?
Definitely in Tokyo Disney.
And do you think we'll get one at Avalon?
I really hope they open at Disneyland near Avalon.
So what you need to understand so that you've asked two questions there.
I know what I did.
There definitely is a layer of fac-a-smell, fac-smell.
Facsimile.
Facsimile on top of the.
Tom, come in.
Tom, come in.
Tom, please come in.
Tom, come in.
There is definitely a layer in the other parks that this is.
We've just been joined by Tom, who's coming to discuss the...
And Tom's microphone might not be on, but...
Oh, it is on.
Oh, it is on. Great.
Tom, check those head...
Oh, check these headphones on.
We're just getting to the end of an interesting chat about...
A really funny episode.
Yeah?
Yeah, just... You'll get the gist of it.
OK, great.
So, yes, absolutely, in a lot of the parks,
there is that issue of it not having the original vision.
But what I would say is, funnily enough, even though there are direct replicas in Magic
Kingdom Florida, in Hong Kong, the closest to the original park, as you said, Mark, is
definitely DisneySea.
I believe so, in that, in the spirit of creating something fully immersive. He's dead and wouldn't know that...
No, but I think what...
Because I think we can't...
He wouldn't have anything to do with that.
We can't, in our lionising of Walt, we can't...
Tom, turn off your phone, mate.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Tom, Tom, Tom.
Alright.
Stop, stop.
In our lionising of Walt, we can't dismiss the work of the early Imagineers.
They came straight from the animation department, they brought their knowledge of film and they
innovated in ways. There was a team working there.
Zach, thanks for your time.
That's really great.
I'm going to be honest, the phone going off has kind of killed my vibe.
I, I don't know if I want to continue, even though this is...
It's a shame because we're on a real time...
I mean this is fucking good.
This is fucking good shit a shame, because we're on a real... I mean, this is fucking good.
This is fucking good shit.
Finally stuff.
And the phone going off is just...
And truth be told, in my 30s, I know it's theme parks,
but this quiet, nerdy talk is what I'd rather be doing.
Yeah, no, totally.
I think it's fair.
Let this podcast go where we feel,
if we want to start an episode
talking about Poo Soup and then it becomes more of a look at the financial and creative
aspects of Disney parks, and that's what it is.
Maybe that's the name of the episode is Poo Soup slash Tokyo Disney Sea thoughts.
Yeah.
I think just Tokyo Disney breakdown.
Yeah, Tokyo Disney breakdown.
Or Poo Soup, or Interstellar Armageddon.
Interstellar Armageddon Tokyo Disney C
in credit coaster Pussu.
I think that's pretty good.
That sums it up.
With no spaces in between the words.
Tom.
Yes.
Thank you for joining us.
No worries.
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