Bad Friends - Magical Asian Shin Lim
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You two are bad friends.
Who are these two idiots?
White dude and Asian dude.
You two are disgusting.
Well, you two are something.
We're bad friends.
Do you know what Jordan this is?
Yeah, 94.
This is just out of year.
Actually, this might...
No.
Wait, this is...
It's the number four, so it's like...
Well, it's the four, but it's gotta be 89.
Okay, here's another point, though.
But he wasn't too far off.
Alright, here's another point, though.
People like us do, Urbans.
Oh, you're Urbans?
Alright, I thought you were Midwest.
You're more urban?
There are suburbs in Chicago.
Yeah, but Chicago is a city.
We're Urbans.
Well, no.
I'm Urbans.
Is San Diego a city?
No. San Diego is a big suburb.
Even downtown San Diego isn't downtown.
It's a convention center.
And it's like Frat Row. That's all that is.
It's like drunk Frat Row. That San Diego is not a real city.
Wow.
Is that where you from, Bobby?
Yeah.
Well, then you already knew that, man.
San Diego is a big town.
I love San Diego, but it's not a city.
Okay, it's just a bunch of suburbs blended together.
Correct. Okay.
Is L.A. a city?
Yes.
Because Santa Monica is totally different
from downtown to Echo Park.
It's like too many little cities.
But isn't there a part that's strictly named Los Angeles?
Yeah, the center of the city,
but not really.
If somebody was to live in Los Angeles,
you'd say where?
But is Arskid Row
better than your Skid Row?
In Chicago?
Chicago is a way tougher city than this place.
Arskid Row is crazy here.
The murder rate in Chicago is the best.
We're the best in the country.
No one kills more than us.
I don't know, dude.
You actually don't know.
We have to base it on the riots, right?
When you guys had a riot in Chicago, right?
Back in the 60s, right?
Yeah.
In terms of riots,
we had one of the best riots on planet Earth.
I know, but that's so long ago now.
What is this guy?
Detroit.
You know what I'm saying?
What is this?
Is this the current murder rate?
Let me see.
Go up. Where is this from?
Cities with the most murders
in 2021.
Let's see what we got here.
Detroit number four.
We went down.
Chicago's 10.
Not on the map.
But can I tell you something?
Not mass shootings.
Murder map.
Oh, look at that. I love the murder map.
Can we not?
This is a good start.
I'll settle the argument.
Chicago's way more violence in a more terrible place.
Hell yeah.
Detroit's a bad time.
St. Louis than Baltimore?
Yeah, Baltimore would be.
Birmingham, yeah.
Detroit, there you are, dude.
Shout out to Detroit.
Dayton LaRouche?
Isn't that where Theo's from?
New Orleans, right next door.
Casey Moe. Memphis 10.
Cleveland. Richmond.
Wow, keep going.
Keep going.
Miami Gardens.
Wash DC. North Charleston.
Peoria, oh, Peoria, Illinois.
Holy shit.
Oh man, even the Asians.
Shut up there.
What is that?
Hold on.
Let's look at this photo.
Whoever died.
Is that you guys? Is that someone you know?
No. That's not Rudy crying right there?
But just listen.
If you were a lawyer that you're consoling,
that's Rudy crying, that's you.
Whoever died, right?
The guy in the right didn't care as much.
Did not.
He's just like, why are you crying so hard?
It's not that big of a deal.
He didn't like him.
He cheated on you 50 times.
And the dad is just reading.
This is, I feel so bad because we don't,
this could be the most horrific thing.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and we're making fun of it.
Give reference to it.
Yeah, give me a reference.
That kind of grieving.
We're doing death stuff.
You went there.
Let's talk about, you know what?
Here we go. Here we go, right?
Here's we go, right?
Because we have a magical Asian coming.
We have the most magical Asian coming that we've ever had.
Do you like magic?
I'm fucking okay.
You think the jewels and I are magical?
No, they're regular Asians.
We're regular Asians.
You're talking about just Asians in general.
We'll talk about Asians in general.
But there'll be three Asians and two black guys.
It'll be kind of balanced.
It's so, I want to go positive.
Don't say that again.
Do you think if I do blackface on this show,
do you think it'd be bad?
I don't think it would be.
If I do blackface.
Wait, tell me why I shouldn't do it.
Is it funny?
No.
Is it funny to see a redheaded guy in blackface?
Red-haired blackface?
Never seen it, but yeah.
But to America, it's still a white dude.
To the hood, come on.
They still like the white dude.
The black dude sitting next to the white dude
with the black face.
Yeah, you start a whole fucking round.
Alright, I'll do it.
Can we go positive now?
Yeah.
I've always wanted, let's create a kid show.
Okay.
Right.
We have this perfect dynamic
to create the best kid show in the world.
We can create
masks, like little puppets.
Right?
It can be in a street, a grove, whatever.
A grove?
I don't know, you know how Sesame Street's on the street?
We're on an avenue or a boulevard.
Yeah, but let's create something different.
Sesame Street was on a boulevard?
Sesame Street was on street.
How about an island, maybe like some sort of island?
What is it called?
It's called, it can't be turtle.
How about this, the tops of Turtle Island?
That's where the kids are.
Yes.
The adults are in the bottoms of Turtle Island.
So if you look at that poster, right?
That's the bottom of Turtle Island.
This looks like a kid show.
Yeah, right.
So maybe we'll create a kid show called
a kid show, right?
And it's a magical Saturday morning kid show, right?
Obviously.
He's the lead?
He's not just the lead.
He could play a kid.
Okay, listen.
I think that you could play the kids, right?
I don't think anyone shaped the mustache
and I think Bingo, we're there, right?
Yeah, you could.
And what do we call you?
Because, you know,
in Sesame Street they had the,
there was a black guy in it, right?
The guy that would, the bald headed black guy
that would walk through the streets.
Lavar Burton? What was his name?
No, it wasn't Lavar Burton.
Who was it?
I don't know his name.
Shel Silverstein.
Man, y'all watch Sesame Street that much?
No, that's Shel Silverstein, man.
That's an author, bro.
Oh, okay, wait, man.
There he is.
Oh, yeah.
His name is Roscoe.
Kenan Murphy.
I know.
But when it comes to kids,
this is either, this is either
Kenan from SNL and Costume
or Steve Harvey's brother.
Who's the black Muppets?
What? Oh, there's black Muppets.
That's what I'm talking about.
They won't Sesame Street? No, they're new.
They got shot.
They got shot.
I'm gonna hook up Crack, right?
Is that what it's supposed to be?
I'm kidding, man.
Alright, I'm gonna stand up.
The two new black Muppets
on Sesame Street,
one's a lawyer, right?
I don't know.
He disobeys the law.
That's for sure.
Put that back up.
It looks so fancy.
Just click it in.
Now it's broken apart.
Yeah.
Rudy, since you're young,
you're the youngest one here.
What are the names of the black Muppets
from Sesame Street?
I've never watched Sesame Street.
I watched Barney.
Okay. Yeah, me too.
Me too, man.
Rudy, since you're the youngest one in here,
what are the names of the black,
you must know, what are the names of the black Muppets
from Sesame Street?
The father is...
Those are brothers.
They're lovers.
One on the right
is named
Carl...
Carl?
Very good.
Hanson.
Never met a black guy named
with the last name Hanson, have you?
Carl, though.
What about the guy on the left?
Darl.
Darl? Darl, you mean?
Darl.
So Carl and Darl.
Carl and Darl.
They're lovers.
Okay.
The tops of Turtle Island,
there's always an opening theme song.
Carl.
Darl.
So we're opening.
I'm going to do a line
from the new theme song.
Happiness on top
of Turtle Island.
Welcome all my friends.
And everybody,
we love you.
There's only a couple of black people
here, so everybody
feels safe.
Rudy.
Yeah, we love them so much.
Bobby.
And
here we go.
And we're going to present
Carl Hanson.
And then you come out.
Welcome.
I thought he said he was going to be Carl.
No, you're Carl.
Who gives a shit?
And now you come out and greet the fucking kids.
This is the morning fucking news show, yeah.
Hey, my little kiddies.
Hey, Carl.
Once again.
You love me?
Yes.
We are.
What did we learn today, Carl?
What did we learn today, Carl?
Today we're going to learn how to just
love each other and make sandwiches.
Oh.
We're going to learn about the alphabets
or numerical numbers or anything about effects.
We got to eat first, right? Energy.
We got to learn science.
Yes, sandwich.
And we're very inquisitive.
Carl, I have a question.
How come your skin is different
than mine?
What good question.
That's real because the atomic
structure of our atoms
builds you to make you look like me.
Wait a minute, it makes me look like me
and make you look like you.
Oh, wow.
Because my dad says it's because
we're better than you.
What does your dad say?
My dad say that your dad
is racist.
I got a question.
My Timothy.
I'm seven.
Nice to meet you, Timothy.
Do you know OJ?
No, Timothy.
I don't know him, but I know of him.
Tell me about him. I don't know anything
because we didn't learn about him
in the history books in that school.
OJ broke football records.
That's it. All right now.
I have another question.
You're turning. You don't have
what you got.
Do you know Bill Cosby?
Yes, yes, we do.
Who is he? Who is he?
Okay, well, they're the company called Jell-O, right?
Yeah, we love Jell-O.
And they had pudding pops.
Good time.
What did he do with the pudding pops?
He sucked on them like
everybody else.
He didn't stick it in.
No, that's okay.
I don't know where you're going, but I'm gonna cut you off
because you can get little kids
to say the darnest things.
I have a question.
Why do some people
not like Michael Jackson?
We are getting good.
We are going for the celebrities, huh?
Let's not say that.
Well, probably because
he was a good moonwalker, you know,
and he was
very famous.
There's a thing called haters in his world.
We're not haters, right, boys and girls?
No.
And now on the chyron, haters.
That's what the topic of the show is.
Haters.
And then now you talk about haters.
Haters, kids, are those
who don't like you
when you're on the top of your best.
Boo.
Do we like haters?
No.
Exactly. Haters can kiss ass.
Can I ask you a question?
Did Epstein kill himself?
Shoot.
These kids are like,
what are you watching?
Did Epstein kill himself?
We don't know.
We want to know. We think he didn't.
Well, that is what we heard.
But it's possible.
It's possible, you know,
but he's with the good Lord.
I think.
Do you know much about Al-Assad
from the leader of Syria?
He did stuff to his people.
Tell us about that.
Well, I don't know much about him,
but Egypt's a nice place.
He used chemical warfare on his own people or something.
Yeah.
Okay.
Teacher, teacher.
Is it going to be good?
Yeah, teacher, teacher.
We want to learn.
Are you pro-Palestine or pro-Israel?
Shoot.
Hard question.
You know what this is called?
I'll tell you later.
It seems as though you don't know anything about it.
He's trying to divert the question.
Teacher?
Okay, one at a time.
That's rude.
Go ahead.
Do you really think 9-11 was an inside job?
Wow, you're going deep into it.
I mean, the way the buildings fell, the stacks.
Nothing steel seems weird, teacher.
Well, it could be.
Yeah.
It seems like an inside job.
There's a nice little young girl over here.
By the way, a kid's school,
a kid's show called Conspiracy Street
would be so fucking funny.
They could have little kids talking
about conspiracy, like little seven-year-olds
being like, 9-11 was an inside job.
You know how funny that would be?
But they would never have the kids, right?
The kids, like, because their parents are there?
Kid actors will do anything.
I know, but the parents will be like,
no.
So what, they're getting paid?
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Whenever I work with kids on a show,
it's always so weird.
A lot of them are very sweet,
but it's just like the parents are very manipulative
and controlling over the kids when they're on set.
And this one kid was in the pool.
And he's like, the pool is cold.
And he's visibly shaking.
They've been in the pool for three hours.
And it was warm, but it was still cold outside.
He's like, the pool is cold.
And the mom runs over and she goes,
you're going to stay in the pool until they tell you
wow.
And he was like, but it's cool.
And she's like, cut it out.
And I was like, that's so fucked up,
but also hypothermia, ladies.
So what? Suck it up.
Yeah, you're getting a grand.
Suck it up, you little bitch.
When I was on spilling out to the other,
we had a little kid that played the kid.
You know, Jennifer Scherz and Oliver's,
you know what I mean? They're the parents.
And he would follow me around the set
and poke me, right?
He would poke me and giggle.
And I always laughed really loud
so people knew where I was with the kid.
Because I would go to the bathroom.
He would follow me and poke me.
In the bathroom? Not in the bathroom, but around.
There's no one around.
And I would run towards somebody
so that just people could see him poke.
Do you feel like that was bullying?
That's a little bullying.
No, I like it.
Because kids, I'll be honest with you.
And as Jules,
they don't like me.
Well, they think you're them.
You look like a big fat kid.
What?
Oh, fuck!
Get the fuck out of here!
Get the fuck out of here!
Oh, my God!
Now we're talking about magic here.
Come sit right here in the middle, please.
This is amazing.
This is fucking amazing.
Dude, good to meet you, man.
Great to meet you.
This is so fucking amazing.
Oh, I'm sorry.
This is how professional the studio is.
Apple Box, sit on the Apple Box.
That's your wife?
Which one?
There's two people.
I'm not assuming anything today.
Can I do the introductions?
Let's let everyone settle.
May I do the introductions?
Yeah, you can.
Do we need to move this?
Yeah.
May I do an introduction, please?
Yeah.
Can you give me a countdown, please?
Jules?
3, 2, 1.
From 10.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Magical Asians!
They're the best!
You guys, my turn?
I'm doing it?
Magical Asians!
They're here!
They're here to stay!
They'll never go back!
They're here forever!
Magical Asians!
Magical Whites aren't as good!
No chance!
It's Magical Asians!
Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Hi, I'm Bobby. Nice to meet you.
I get nervous.
Introduce the Magical Asians!
I will!
I will. My bad. I'm sorry.
I got angry. You're on steroids.
Prednisone!
Many, many years ago,
I'm a big fan of talent shows.
Yeah.
And I'm also, I know Penn Gillette.
Oh.
I didn't move with him.
So when I was in Hungary
last summer
with Penn Gillette, we were shooting a movie.
Yeah.
And I asked him, I go, do you think that Shin Lim
is the best guy out there?
And he goes, I think he is.
That's what Penn Gillette said.
You know what? I think I heard this one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I've been watching America's Got Talent over the years
for many shows.
And I've watched every magician, right?
Yeah.
I really believe that this young man,
he's from Boston, correct?
I am originally from Boston.
Yes. So, you know, I know things.
You're Canadian now too.
Oh, yeah, originally too.
There you go.
You know things too.
I do.
And that's great.
It made me look like a fool just now.
I'm going to speed this up.
Okay. Shin Lim, everybody.
Shin Lim, everybody!
All right. Thank you.
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Subject to change, turns apply.
So, um, Shin, thank you so much for coming.
By the way, you know he just came from
Ellen.
It was a story.
It was a story. It wasn't.
Who's Ellen?
I thought she was gone.
This is one of the last episodes.
Oh, really?
He's been on it before.
I'm just saying, he came to us from Ellen.
I'm going to give it up for Shin Lim for coming here from
Ellen to here.
Look at this fucking studio.
His wife is sitting in an apple box.
Stop, stop, stop.
Ellen.
This is the march.
Ellen shoots on Warner Brothers, right?
It's a five-minute drive.
I'm not talking about it.
I mean, how long did it take you?
Five, ten minutes?
We did try to go to In-N-Out and then we realized
we didn't have enough time so we came back.
You didn't get enough food?
You guys get some In-N-Out!
Get Shin Lim In-N-Out!
My production crew.
I'm so sorry about that.
Wait, what's your In-N-Out order?
Just the regular number one.
Regular fries or animal style?
Is that burger animal style?
No, they have that.
Yeah, you can animal style anything.
Animal style?
Don't get aggressive.
Animal style is grilled onions
and a little secret sauce.
But there's no...
There's a bun?
No, it's just added into the stuff you already get.
Can I just say
grilled onions in it? Would they know?
You have to say animal style
for their special sauce with the grilled onions.
You guys have never heard of that?
It's the bun. I've heard of animal style
but I didn't know what it was.
You don't know much about anything, actually.
Man, don't be like that. I know a little bit.
He knows a lot.
Doc, say a word
that you know he doesn't know.
Serendipity.
What does that mean?
Oh, really good movie.
What does it mean, then?
It means peace.
No, it doesn't.
It sounds like it.
Serendipitous means something
is almost destiny driven.
Serendipitous, it's like a confluence
of events that make something destiny driven.
You can't just throw out a fucking
movie title.
Love that takes the form of finding valuable
pleasant things that are not before.
What does quantum solos mean?
It's a movie, right?
Yeah.
That's what he did, Serendipity.
It's two words, one word.
Let's go back to our guest.
Shin Lim's here.
First of all, we both love you.
We respect you. You're incredible.
You're incredible.
Why do you think
you're such a magication?
What do you think makes you the most magication?
The hair, maybe, I don't know.
That's where I get all my mana from.
I just go like this.
Yeah.
That's what juices it up.
When did you start really getting into it?
16.
I was like, I might be able to get a girlfriend
doing this.
And?
That was a long time later.
It turns out you had to actually talk to them.
I was like, oh, I just show them a trick
and then they give me their numbers.
This is how it works?
I figured that out later in my life as well.
I couldn't get any girls
before I was 21.
Never?
Zero.
I was so shy, I didn't know how to do it.
What?
Bro, is that a slam, bro?
I just was just speaking facts.
I want to say this to you, Doc.
Oh, here we go.
I know we have a good...
Be nice.
You're a black man, right?
I'm an Asian guy, right?
And I have a bigger dick than yours.
And that's sad on you.
You don't have a bigger dick than me.
What do you mean, per capita?
In terms of girls, I bet you're money.
Mine's like a spam can.
Yeah, it's like a fucking box.
It doesn't even sometimes ender some vages.
No.
Okay?
Did you feel good?
I feel great.
And don't ever talk to me like that again.
Bobby is positive.
Let me ask you,
did you guys meet because of magic?
In a way, yeah.
She was actually a dancer for an illusionist.
A big, big time illusionist, Franz Harari.
Ooh!
Big, big, big, big.
And I was actually the magician
performing in his theater as well.
When you stole him from her,
it was something like that.
You weren't dating him by any chance?
No, no, no.
He's like 50 years old.
Bobby's 50.
No.
How old are you?
26?
No, she's 35.
Same.
Back to Shinla.
Don't, don't, don't.
I knew that about him.
I knew that we'd have a connection.
When I watched the YouTube and I saw him on Thing,
right, it seemed like a beam of light
came out of us and it connected to mine.
Through the television? Yeah.
Through the screen, my iPad. Do you think he felt that?
I'm pretty sure.
He probably didn't know what it was at the time.
You feel like you connected through Bobby through television?
When I was watching the podcast, yes,
that's as I have to go see. Wow.
See those beams, right?
So what I would love about him is like,
when people do magic, right,
there's like magic reveal videos afterwards.
Yeah. Right, and people go,
well, this is how this magician did it, right?
There's a lot of history
that people can't figure out.
So you went on, did you go on Penn's...
Yeah, Foolish. Yeah, you did that, right?
Yeah, I did that twice. And you didn't,
and they didn't get you? Apparently not.
No, no, no. I mean, I really do feel like
they actually know some of it.
Because I saw one of them and they did not.
He admitted that he didn't get it. Yeah.
You think he was lying? No, they're not lying about the whole thing.
I know they probably know certain parts of it,
but if they enjoy the entire act as an entirety,
then they say, yeah, you...
Out of respect. Something like that.
Yeah, because most magicians,
we kind of know how everything really works.
You know, it's like piano, really.
If you know the basic chords and everything,
you can really create like a symphony.
Does anybody fool Shin Lim?
Oh, yeah, plenty of times.
There's magicians that do tricks that you don't have no idea.
It has to be like probably mentalism
or different types, not cards, you know?
Different types of magic.
Go ahead.
How do you feel about David Blaine?
He's my inspiration.
Yeah, when I...
Man, I like this guy.
He's great. He's awesome.
I found it on YouTube.
I started on YouTube. That's how I learned everything.
And when I saw David Blaine, he's so cool.
Because usually what it was was David Copperfield.
Yeah, he was the biggest.
Yeah, he was the stage illusionist.
And I thought all magic was just that.
It was the big boxes and that type of grand illusion.
David was really the first type.
He was just doing card magic.
That's all he was doing, you know?
And I said, well, this is so cool.
You can do the same thing, kind of evoke that same experience
in people's reactions with just a deck of cards.
And so that's kind of what got me inspired
to choose close-up magic.
Also, it's like the cheapest, you know?
It's a lot cheaper than stage magic, too.
Yeah, also, can I just say this that
in terms of magicians,
there's different styles, right?
So it's like asking...
What you just did was asking Adele,
like, what do you think of Salt and Pepper?
They're great.
I know, but I'm just saying that it's...
I'm just saying it's just because they're singers.
Singers, that doesn't mean that...
you mean that he has an opinion about it, right?
He did, though.
He actually said it was one of the people that he inspired.
That was like Ebony and Ivory.
That was something.
You're wrong on this one.
Okay, I'm going to back up.
Are there any black magicians?
Are they black?
What is he?
He's black-ish.
David Blaine's black?
Sunday's on ABC.
I think so.
I think he's half-black.
Let's find out.
Are there any other black magicians, though?
Thank you.
Are there any other famous black magicians?
Because there's close-up magic.
There's like, you know, a sleight of hand.
This is true.
Are there any black famous magicians that you know?
Uh, Eric Jones.
He's like a very underground sleight of hand magician.
He would be, yeah.
So are you in the Magic Castle's club?
No, actually, I'm not by...
I go there quite frequently.
Doc, doc.
Go back, that was it.
He's the best in the world.
I really believe that.
I feel a little different.
You have a scene to do it.
We're about to find out.
Don't get so mad at Doc.
Are you right? I love you.
David Blaine was Russian, Jewish, and Puerto Rican Italian.
So, no, not black.
He's not black.
Can I also say what else?
He not only did win...
Not a bigot.
Not only did he win America's Got Talent,
he won the one...
You know how they do the champions one?
Yeah, all the winners.
All the winners, right?
From all over the world, they compete in one thing.
He won that as well.
Was there anybody at AGT that you didn't like?
That you're competing against?
No, they're all so amazing.
He won both.
Holy shit.
Let me get out this regular question before you say some dumb shit.
When you're competing, is the competition...
Turn off his mic.
Is the competition...
He won AGT?
I mean, that's what we're talking about.
He won the fucking America's Got Talent,
and then he also won the champions one.
Hey, look, they actually turned off his mic.
Yeah.
Thank you, guys. Turn it back on.
I'm kidding. I'm just joking, Doc.
No, but the competition on shows,
as comics, the thing that we share with you guys
would be like...
It is a you sport, or whatever you want.
There's only one winner.
There's so much other competition,
as you're climbing through the ranks.
Is there ever beef between you guys?
First of all, everyone's really nice on set.
They have to be.
But we don't have too much time with each other,
so there's really not enough time
to kind of develop that drama.
Do you have a dramatic beef with another magician?
I want it so bad.
He does!
There's a lot of drama that goes on.
She knows. We could leak it out.
She does know.
You don't have to say names,
but there's magicians that you guys clash a little bit.
Sure.
The most recent would be...
Would you say the guy from...
This magician won, Italy's Got Talent.
Oh, IGT.
Yeah, Italy's Got Talent.
He did exactly my act from beginning,
middle to the end.
Who is this guy? Let's fucking kill him.
We're gonna fucking ruin this guy.
On this show, we're gonna ruin him.
His career's over.
Bobby is gonna spend so much weight.
Bobby will spend time.
I will spend every resource to ruin this guy.
When you did Champions, did you do it with Marcelito Pomoy?
Uh, I believe in...
No, no, no. Marcelito...
No, but I hung out with him. He's a cool guy.
Dude, so the Philippines...
He's not a magician.
Marcelito Pomoy is the best singer,
I believe, that's ever done a singing competition.
In the world.
Bro, you should see him.
What about Susan Boyle?
No. Watch...
Dude, if you saw Marcelito Pomoy,
you're gonna be like, oh yeah, that's a skill set.
It's like magic.
It's his name, Stefano Bronsato.
Stefano Bronsato.
We don't want to watch the thing.
We'll just see it for a little bit.
What is he, a colkin?
He is, though. Yeah, he looks like a colkin.
Can I be honest? He's cute.
He is cute.
And he's got sexy eyes.
And he's got a sweet Italian accent.
I'm gonna do a cardan magic for you.
Even if he fucks up, he's like, a pasta.
They'd lose it.
Awesome.
So wait a minute, Stefano Bronsato, we have beef with.
No, I don't actually...
Bad friends does. We do.
We have beef with you.
And the magic community got so upset over it.
I was flattered.
For me, it was flattering.
I consider myself to win AGT three times now.
Oh.
What a burn.
But as a joke...
No, but truth be told,
you don't have the beef,
but I want to say something to Stefano Bronsato.
You steal some shit from Shin Lim again?
We're gonna come fucking find you.
Bobby, you want to say something?
What's his name? Stefano Bronsato.
I don't even give...
I'm not gonna even memorize it. Good.
I'm not gonna give it in my head, no head space.
Say, listen, Guinea, that's what you say.
You fucking Guinea, is that a good word?
It's a racial epithet towards Italian.
Yeah, but while I'm being in trouble.
Guinea fuck. You Guinea fuck.
You fucking pasta eating piece of garbage.
More, more.
Salami.
Yeah, good.
You Bronsino eating piece of shit.
You fucking Guinea bastard, look at me right now.
Say, listen, you rag-oo eating.
You rag-oo eating Chef Boy D.
Worshipping piece of fucking human garbage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't care what kind of mafia you know.
Oh, shit.
And he does. He's connected.
Oh, shit.
Hit him harder. Bring it on.
Bring it on. Yeah, those fucking mooks.
What's mooks?
I don't even know, but that sounds a bit positive.
It takes the mooks out. I think that's a black thing.
Is it? Yeah, yeah.
Take mooks out. What? Let's get a room vote.
Google what mooks means.
Mook? M-O-O-K? Yeah, yeah.
I don't think mook is a racial epithet.
I've never... a stupid or incompetent person.
Oh, mook.
But wait a minute, what's the etymology of mook?
Because just because...
If this is there, fine. I'm gonna call it a mook.
Do etymology of mook. Etymology of mook.
We do need to find the background because we say some shit like mook.
There we go, right there.
Uncertain origin. Perfect. Call him mook.
Mook. You mooky mooky bastard, right?
If you fucking steal from my boys shins again, bro...
You're in trouble.
Bro, I will fucking call everyone I know, right?
And I know Yakuza.
Oh, shit.
You want a war with Italian and Yakuza?
Yeah. Yeah, we'll chop your fucking fingers off, bro.
All right, freeze frame this on Bobby's face
and then put the day he was born and the day he died right now.
These guys are gonna kill us.
Yeah, Brosato's gonna kill us.
That being said, don't steal our boys' bits.
I was just kidding. It's a comedy podcast and I'm gentle
and I have a nice guy. Please don't kill me.
He's being sarcastic. Yeah, we are.
Do you want to show us stuff?
Yeah, of course.
Wait, but Doc, I think Doc should be...
Would you want to be a spectator?
Yeah, I think Doc should be the one picking the cards and being the guy.
So sneak behind Bobby
and then scratch down there.
This is fucking insane. I'm so excited.
So just crouch down there, Bob.
You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna sit over here and watch.
No, sit in your chair so we can see you on camera, please.
All right, here we go.
You don't have to pray before he does magic on you.
What I do is...
How do we...
I think I can work with him.
He's the best in the world.
Sit in your chair, please.
Allegedly.
I don't think it's allegedly.
Michael Jordan was allegedly the best at basketball,
but it's a fucking fact.
So I'm not really claiming
that I do any sort of actual magic.
It's slight of hand. It's something like this.
I'm just manipulating the deck
so it kind of looks like magic.
But in a way, I can form even shapes
like a circle, triangle.
And I can even do something like this.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, that's a...
Actually, that's no social life.
That's what it means, actually.
But here, give the deck a shuffle.
As much as you want.
Yeah, give it a mix.
Oh.
Perfect.
Absolutely perfect.
Already fucked it up.
Already fucked it up.
I've never seen that before.
In my life, bro.
Holy fuck.
That was embarrassed.
Speaking of my life, a little more difficult.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God.
All right, Doc. Hand it back at some point, though.
All right.
The end of the deck and everything.
Right?
What's gonna happen, Doc?
Oh, my God.
Can you overhand shuffle like this
without dropping the cards?
Okay, all right.
That's gonna be pretty important later on, all right, Doc?
All right, Doc.
So what's gonna happen is, I'm gonna spread the deck.
You just point to anywhere in the deck you want.
Anywhere.
Doc, at this point, you can change your mind.
Do you want to change your mind or are you happy?
No, no, I'll do it.
You feel this card right here? You sure?
I'll leave it out jogged like this.
You already examined the deck, but here, take the cards out.
Take that card out, sorry.
Here, let me see.
Okay, yeah.
All right, you remember the card? Yeah.
And we didn't pre-plan any of this, did we?
Of course, yeah, of course.
That's fine, that's fine.
Imagine these two guys knowing each other in the real world
and we have no idea.
I won't look at the card, but we'll place into the deck.
Now, Doc, I want you to make it...
Or if you don't want to drop the cards again,
you can shuffle the cards like this.
Totally up to you. Go ahead.
He's gonna drop it again.
All right, okay.
Yeah, I'm gonna take off your jacket.
Yeah, some people think I hide stuff, so I'm gonna...
Okay.
Wait, did you hear...
He goes a very elementary way to shuffle,
but don't say that word, he didn't make it through that whole thing, so...
Okay.
I'm taking my deck out only because some people think I...
He shuffles like a guy with four fingers.
Some people think I...
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Or he's like a gazelle.
He doesn't have anything.
Are you happy with where you
shuffle the cards? You're very happy.
Well, they stayed together this time.
One more.
Alright.
You made that last choice, right?
That's fine.
Place it onto the table.
Onto the table. Very good.
You shuffle all 52 playing cards.
Right over here. All 52.
It was just one card to the top.
And you made that last minute decision of placing
one card back to the top of the deck, right?
Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't control you
the entire time, no? No.
What was your card for the first time? No.
You want me to tell you? Yeah, you can tell me.
Because you're holding onto a random card at this point.
There's a 3 of space.
And you shuffled that deck the entire time.
I didn't go anywhere near that deck, did I?
You shuffled it. You handled it.
You even dropped all the cards.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Take a look at the card in your hand right now.
Take a look? Yeah.
Show it.
Show it.
Show it.
Holy shit.
Wait.
Maybe that's a coincidence. I'll tell you.
We'll try this again.
We'll do it again. We'll do it again.
I can do this as many times as possible.
Sometimes I slide a hand.
I can drop three space. That's three clubs.
And I can pretend to deal the card like this, right?
That's called the second deal.
Don't tell anyone.
This is a sneaky little move that magicians do.
But I'm going to do it with one hand this time.
So you just say stop at any time.
Any time?
No, you say the word stop, not any time.
But any time, right here.
Do you want to change your mind or are you happy?
You happy? Yeah.
You happy? Two in a row.
You say stop afterwards.
Show it. Oh my God.
Why are you doing this?
It's spiritual.
Dude, every time.
Have you ever seen black people with David Blaine?
They're always like, Jesus Christ!
They always got to go to God.
Because they think he might be the devil.
Relax. Everything's fine.
Relax.
You deal this time.
Take the deck.
Should I shuffle or do you want to shuffle?
I'd rather you shuffle.
Shuffle it.
Give it a mix.
Overhand shuffle like this.
There you go.
That's how you shuffle the deck.
That's what you were saying.
Start dealing the cards into my hand.
Bobby has never felt cards.
Close your eyes.
I don't want you to feel like I'm hypnotizing you because I could do that.
Just deal whenever you want.
And whenever you want.
Just stop whenever you want.
You want me to stop right there?
You sure?
Now you can open up your eyes.
You stop right over here. This is your card.
And this is my card over here.
At this point,
you're going to make a choice.
And the moment you make that choice,
there's no going back.
It's 50-50 this time.
Even though you shuffled the deck.
Which one do you want? Your card or my card?
Go ahead.
Grab the edge of that card.
Show it to everyone.
Oh my god!
If he saw this card, that's the queen of spades.
Look at the card.
Oh my god.
Give me that deck.
Give me that deck.
That's why I was won.
Give me that deck.
This is really it.
This whole thing was an illusion.
This three wasn't even there.
That was an illusion.
I don't know what you were thinking.
I don't know what you were thinking.
I don't think the camera caught it.
Let's give it up for Shin.
Holy shit.
No, I did catch it.
I got it on my camera.
I got it, so I got it up close.
I don't think I've ever seen it up that close.
I've done the magic castle.
They have up close.
But there's like seven of us
and we're drunk.
I've never been sober
and been this close to watch it.
It is better drunk sometimes.
It's way more ooh-ah.
The best one I ever saw was
a magician that was there.
He's really old. He does upstairs in the corner.
Is that what his name was?
A bigger guy?
Yeah.
He did one where it was
the card that a woman had picked
at the table ended up
in a
sealed envelope
on her person.
She pulled it out.
How?
Easy?
It depends.
I've seen this dude, right?
Someone sign a card
with their name.
That fucks me up.
He's doing the whole thing, right?
He pulls the fucking card
out of his fucking mouth.
You put the card out of your mouth.
It comes out of his fucking mouth, bro.
Like a fucking dragon.
And he pulls out the fucking card
with the sign on it.
I've seen another, this fool right here, bro.
Don't say fool.
This human that we love.
This guy.
This great guy.
A lot of other fools in this room.
This mook.
I've seen him, right?
Put a sign card.
Put it in an envelope.
It disappears.
And then it appears in someone's fucking water jug.
No.
What?
Yeah, that was on AGCO.
Does anybody do gross magic?
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Blaine does some of that.
I would say.
Could it be like, here's your card and then
check your butthole.
And someone could pull out of their butthole a card.
Could you be a little bit comedic?
That's what I like.
That would be a good trick for you to do.
Put a card in his butthole right now.
I want a card in my butthole.
It's so dirty because I don't want to fuck up his cards.
He has so many cards.
It'll stain his card and ruin the deck.
I have a lot of deck.
Do you have a favorite deck?
No, not really.
No, it doesn't exist.
As long as it's good quality, I can do all those fancy shuffles.
Bicycle is the one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is there other card companies that compete?
Plenty, yeah.
Plenty is fucked up.
Really?
And what do you do?
Do you have to readjust?
Yeah, you have to readjust and plan.
Especially the ones with the music.
Everything I do with the music routine is usually timed.
And the track, it's not like the guy
could edit halfway through the track
and stop it if I messed up.
It's like from beginning to end.
The single track just goes through.
So if I messed up any time
before a big moment
I have to kind of keep up
and then continue going through
and keep up with the music.
It's a really weird process.
It's different from music because music,
if you mess up on the piano, I used to play the piano a lot.
If you mess up, you just kind of push it to the next bar.
Sure.
With magic, you have to just kind of go back,
fix what you made the mess up on
and then get back.
And catch up in time.
See, like with us, we fuck up a joke on stage or something.
Yeah, I'll admit it.
Yeah, but I'm saying like
if you're fucking up a joke as you're telling a setup
we need to roll through it and they usually never know.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
It's registering, but you still have to make sure
you're keeping up with that fucking nuts.
That's nuts.
I don't know what kind of accent.
You fucked up your fingers and you had to have surgery, right?
Yeah, I have a scar. You can still see the scar.
Yeah, what happened?
What did you do?
It was an illusion actually.
It was an illusion for the first time.
Clearly, I shouldn't do that anymore.
It was a crossbow act.
Yeah, it was a very dangerous act.
No, I was actually just trying to fix one of the props
and then it just got right.
Because the crossbow was cocked.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, not safe.
So tell me there's like, you know,
we comics judge each other a lot.
There's always like a material thing about
what kind of comic that you like and what material they do.
Are there magicians?
Is there such thing as like a
in the magician world like a hacky trick?
There's a lot.
Like a gag.
Or stuff that you all know that you're like, that's fucking cheap.
That's elementary shit.
I think there's stuff that we would even think like,
I don't really know.
It's all impressive.
That's hacky shit?
Yeah, even like cutting a lady in half.
That's my first thought.
That's what we think of too.
If we see a magician doing that, we're like, come on dude,
can you do a more advanced version of that?
But the ring thing seemed kind of,
that doesn't seem too hacky to me.
I see, I don't know.
Like when Darcy Oak, you know Darcy Oak from Canada, right?
So when Darcy Oak, I love magic.
He does the thing where he puts the pigeons in the cage, right?
Yeah.
And he lifts up the cage and there's a woman there, right?
Is that kind of like slicing a woman in half
in terms of like, it's an illusion, right?
Yeah.
I mean, she's obviously sitting there the whole time.
I imagine that girl.
She's not.
She just appears from the dubs.
She's made out of the dubs.
That's ridiculous.
No, it's not. She's very smart.
Yeah, she's an illusion.
Okay, well, thank you, because you almost had me.
I'll be real, you almost had me.
I almost went, okay.
I know, if he wasn't here, you know I would have got you.
I would have led you down that road till you believed me.
So when he does that, is that hacky?
Some magicians would say so.
Yeah, that's what I thought when I saw it.
Laman, or just a fan.
Yeah.
There are sometimes I watch it and I go,
you know, it's like, also here's what I don't like also,
is the blackboard when they do close-up magic,
because the blackboard, the felt on it,
it just, you can tell.
You know, like the blackboard, huh?
Would it be better if it was a whiteboard?
I could do a whiteboard.
Yeah.
When I say the literal board is black,
it wasn't referenced to a human being.
Seems like it.
Seems like the issue was that it was a blackboard.
I understand that.
That's true.
Do you like blackboards or whiteboards better?
Whiteboards for sure.
Of course, they're so much easier to read.
I trust whiteboards.
They're gonna work.
They're gonna work.
I feel blackboards are lazy.
By the way, that's an ad for whiteboards.
Whiteboards.
They're gonna work.
They're gonna work.
What they do is, when they do the close-up,
it's like, you can hide coins and stuff,
because if they're felt as well, black felt,
it hides onto the thing.
So it's like,
we just know that I don't like it.
What he does, though, is I'll watch it and I go,
I don't know how he did that.
Do you ever work the castle or no?
No, not yet. One day.
Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean?
You don't want to? No, no, no.
I haven't been asked to do it.
Dude, he has his own show in Vegas now.
I know, but I'm saying, would you ever stop
into LA and just go do a set there?
Is that a thing? Yeah, yeah.
Eventually, if I have some free time,
because the thing is, when you go there,
you have to go there for a week, and you have to perform there for a week.
And so usually, I've never had
that kind of one week offer.
So that's what I'm saying, is if we pop into New York
and we want to do a spot at the set,
it's like a thing. If we want to do a couple nights, you can.
I didn't know how it works there.
You have to take a residency there.
Short residency, sure.
You have to do a fucking magic, right?
Yeah, and Dave Chappelle drops into places.
I know, but we don't, the commentator doesn't make him do a week.
No, this is what I was asking you.
The comedy magic club, he should show up.
And just be like, I'm only doing one day.
And whoever's on the floor doing their thing,
get the fuck out of here.
All right, let's send him a message.
Listen to your comedy magic club.
You don't let him do a fucking one night, one off if he feels like it.
He's a pop-in.
He's a celebrity pop-in.
If you don't want us to burn that place to the ground,
there is a sushi restaurant above it that I would really like.
It's so good. I love it.
Okay, so let's burn it and go get sushi.
Yeah, but I don't want to build.
Are they attached to the buildings or not?
It's above it. They have a sushi place at the castle?
No, it's above it. It's a little above it.
Really? It's really good.
Yamashiro. If you go up the hill,
there's a nice sushi place above.
Bobby, is this the same magician that you and Steve cried on?
Is that the same dude?
You cried on him? What does that mean?
Remember you and Steve was watching something do magic.
And in and of itself.
Yeah.
What's his name?
He's doing Neil Brennan's show right now.
Do you like that? Do you watch that?
It's so inspiring.
He actually inspired my show in Vegas.
Wow.
Because I never got to see it live.
But I watched it on Hulu.
It moved me.
My brother and I.
I cried. You told me to watch it.
You called me crying.
I did. I was like, you have to see this.
It fucking moved my heart.
And by the way, I've had people like,
I didn't really like it. I'm like, you're a fucking...
I don't trust those people.
You're a piece of shit.
Because they thought it was going to be a magic show.
They expected it to be.
This was intellectual magic. It was very deep.
It was emotional magic.
That's what I'm saying.
Your brain was active the whole time.
It wasn't like sit back.
My mind was going,
I feel that way about these things.
If you have Hulu,
watch in and of itself.
But if you're in Vegas,
where is your residency at?
At the Mirage.
The Mirage.
Isn't the Mirage one of the biggest places?
Where's Siegfried and Roy?
It's fucking huge.
Fucking Siegfried and Roy.
Fucking line team and fuckers.
They're dead.
Well, what are you going to do?
You play with fire.
Exactly, dude.
Both of them passed away.
During COVID.
No, they got COVID or no?
The lion had COVID.
And it bit him and he got COVID from the lion.
That's true. The COVID had lion.
Because with my lines, I social distance.
Your lines are out in the backyard.
We have a distance thing.
Who got bit? Siegfried or Roy?
Roy got bit, but Siegfried died of just regular life.
That stinks.
That stinks. Anyway, go see Shindlin at the Mirage.
Yeah, yeah.
Can I throw out just a really quick thing?
Yeah.
Joe Coy used to shovel that tiger shit
at Mirage when I met him.
No way.
So when he was a kid,
and I was a kid, we met in 1995.
We met at
the comedy store in La Jolla.
We were both open micers.
He had hair at the time.
Shoveled tiger shit.
In Vegas, you should come hang out.
So I drove to Vegas.
And I said, no.
I did open mics in Vegas with him.
But I stayed in his little apartment.
And he would do that.
He wore the outfit and shoveled tiger shit.
Dude, that dude's come a long fucking way.
He used to work at the bank.
He used to work at the bank in Century City.
And was a teller
for a long time.
And then after that,
somebody told me he worked somewhere else
that I was like, God, Joe Coy,
he went from that to selling out fucking arenas.
He's in Vegas too, right?
Joe Coy performed in Vegas.
Well, he does big theaters there.
So how many seats are in the theater you perform in?
1,300.
And how many shows do you have to do?
Five shows a week.
We're Dark Tuesday Wednesdays.
Five shows a week.
Very lucky to still be performing.
No, you deserve it.
Vegas is pretty rough.
Some people should be lucky to be there.
They're lucky to have you.
Big difference.
They don't have the TV coverage either.
Are you his manager?
You're a publicist?
Hi.
So I want to say...
How much of a publicity nightmare would he be?
A nightmare.
The MOOCs thing.
He'd be like, no, no, no.
That's why I don't have a publicist.
They always sweat.
They go, um...
We could get you on Wendy Williams, maybe?
Even then, it would be tough.
This next crazy fucking Asian.
Yeah.
So, um...
If I'm...
Here's the deal.
Because I know that Penn and Teller want me to do...
Do their show.
They want me to do their show.
So if we do a trip out to Vegas
when you're doing your show, could we come see your show?
For free, yeah.
No, we should pay.
No, no, no, no, no.
I want you guys to have the best seats.
I want Bobby to pay
is what I'm trying to say.
No, I don't want to pay at all.
And I want backstage.
What?
You don't get to go.
You fucked up today.
Wait a minute. Let me ask you this.
This is an inside baseball question.
When we have friends
or, I mean, friends that come backstage,
do you prefer people pre-show
or post-show? Post-show, post-show.
See, that's the same thing with us.
People always want to come backstage and you're like,
please don't come back here.
Because they're like, we're here early, can we come say hi?
And you're like, no, I hate it.
But people don't know, that's like a weird rule
that they just think, who cares?
You're going to go do the show.
And you're like, don't come back here, please.
It bothers me so much.
And even after the show, do you need some cool down time?
That's awesome.
Can I ask one last question?
Ask everything that you want because he's got to go.
I don't know.
Do you get nervous?
Every show or no?
No, no, no.
Because you get on lockdown.
It's a pretty solid show,
but if I do that thing with the music
that I was talking about,
when there is a mistake that happens
whether with sleight of hand,
it can be anything really.
That's the part.
That's not as nervous as much as it is
like anxiety to get it right.
Yeah, and then hands start sweating
and then if I keep messing up even more,
then I get real nervous because I've had to stop
an entire act once before.
Where I genuinely lost the card.
It was on Broadway, it was very embarrassing.
I lost the card and I couldn't find it
and I was like spending,
and it was already like two minutes into my track
and I was like, there's no way I'm going to be able to talk.
What do you do then?
The guy looks like I'm not that good,
so peace out.
No.
And I just walked off stage.
But luckily there was a troop of magicians,
so the next guy just came in.
Does this moment happen?
You're backstage, you're bombed,
and another magician sits next to you.
Hey kid, did somebody
talk you out of it?
Probably in a sarcastic manner.
They're like, hey man, it's okay, it happens all the time.
It didn't look that bad.
Oh, by the way, the card's here
and they have it.
That's what I call it.
Everyone loses it.
So that is funny
to think about that it's like
the biggest pressure you face now
because you're so comfortable with what you do
is if timing is off.
This is a good narrative show idea
about just magicians
and what happens backstage
and their relationships.
Well, I think he can tell you
very weird.
Very weird.
Some of those guys would not be good on camera.
You're like, hey, what's going on?
No, we cast a show.
Actors.
No, I want to see the real deal Holyfield.
No, we do a reality show, but I just think
that a narrative show would be fun.
Okay.
Yeah, it's a pass.
But you're not a fucking executive.
Thanks for coming to the meeting, we appreciate it.
Bobby, since you gave the wonderful intro
you have to do a nice exit
and we want to, first of all, we want to say
as bad friends family, thank you so much for coming.
It means a lot to us.
Cards. Cards. Cards.
It means a lot to us that you came here.
We're very happy.
First of all, I want to say this.
We never have guests.
Ever.
I mean, we could have great ones,
but it's an exclusive thing.
This is a special thing.
And
that's that. That's a fact.
That's a fact.
Do the ending?
Yeah, do it.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
That was amazing.
So by the way, we want to talk, we want to have a little meeting.
We want to have an intervention real fast.
To who? To Jules.
It's about posture. It's about body language.
It's about the way she is on this show.
And we had an expert
talk about Jules' body language.
Check this out.
Analyze. Hey, fellas. I'm Scott Rouse.
And I'm a body language expert and analyst.
And I train law enforcement in the military
in interrogation and body language.
And Andrew, you're right.
Rudy's facial expressions aren't real.
And I'm going to show you by breaking them down very quickly
from a scientific perspective
why you're right.
I'm going to do this clip.
Put on a happy face.
When someone really smiles,
it's called a Duchéne smile.
After Duchéne de Bologna, he's a French fellow
back in the late 1800s.
And one of the first things he found out about that
was that when someone smiles, you see little wrinkles
just right at the edges of the eyes.
Not squinted wrinkles because anybody can do that.
But it's the wrinkles made when your brain
actually makes them happen.
Now here's the difference.
If we were to squint,
they would come together like this.
They would come straight down.
But when your brain does it, they come at an angle
like, you know, almost like this.
Like that.
We're not seeing that here at all.
I knew it.
Thank you.
It's not a Duchéne smile.
Pause it.
Put on a sad face.
Do you have any response to this before we move on to sad?
I think it was a real smile.
All right, well, give us one more real smile into the camera.
I can't see any wrinkles.
No, the brain didn't do it.
She's never smiled before in our life.
Let's see the other one.
This is a sad face.
Her expression of sadness is fake as well.
Here's how it looks.
And someone's really sad and they're grieving
and they feel sadness.
You'll see an upside down horseshoe almost right there.
Oh, yeah, that's what I do all the time.
It's made by what we call the grief muscle.
We're not seeing that here at all, not even a little bit.
As well, we don't see the little thing
in a little muscle right here
called the chin boss.
We don't see that. It's a little wrinkle that happens right in here.
Pause it.
We're seeing nothing.
Maybe because my face is young.
That's a shot at us.
That's a shot at us.
The grief muscle and the sad bone.
What was this called? What was the chin one called?
Yeah, yeah.
Go back. What's the chin one called? He says it two seconds before.
Muscle right here.
We don't see that.
Chin boss.
So listen here, you got no chin boss.
You got no grief muscle.
By the way, that's our next nickname.
I'm grief muscle, your chin boss.
Because chin boss does sound like an ancient guy.
No, that's good. I feel that.
You don't feel it?
All right, let's play more.
We called her out fake smile.
Fake smile, fake sadness.
We're seeing nothing.
Keep going.
From a scientific perspective.
Put on an angry face.
Her expression of anger is false as well.
Here's how we know.
When someone's really angry with you,
most people are under the impression you'll squint your eyes.
And you're like, oh, I'm mad at you.
They do squint their eyes.
However, when somebody's really mad at you,
when they're going to come over the table at you or swing at you,
Andrew, you'll know this. You fought a lot as a kid.
What you'll see is their eyes will squint,
but they'll get a little wide and they're like,
this one gives me that crazy look
because they're actually angry.
So when someone squints their eyes and they're hollering at you,
they're probably upset,
but they're not really that angry with you.
When those eyes, they start to get big in there
while they're squinting at the same time,
that's when you're going to have a problem with them.
We're not seeing that here.
We're also not seeing the eyebrows being knitted
the way they're supposed to be.
And by that, I mean being pulled together correctly.
She's frowning pretty much.
That's what you see.
And overall, the expression is discussed.
When you show your teeth,
that you're showing anger, not here,
because these little parts of the face right here are pulling up.
And what's happening there is it's showing
what it's denoted as and what we know as
discussed.
That's what we're seeing there because her nose is wrinkled.
Her nose doesn't wrinkle that much when you get angry,
especially as much as we're seeing in this clip.
So we're not seeing anything real here.
Nothing.
She's showing us fake happiness,
fake sadness, and fake anger.
Fake. Good call.
Happy face.
Put on a sad face.
Ugh.
Fake. Put on an angry face.
Yeah.
Phony baloney. Phony baloney.
Thank you. Thank you.
I want to thank you too.
You know why? Why?
I have to live with this faker.
Phony. You have to live with the phony.
And we had a professional analyze it.
He's a professional.
It's science baby.
I guess I'll just believe him.
You're not going to defend your faker?
You're not even going to say, no, that's not true.
I'm not faking it? No, I'll try to change.
I don't buy that.
I don't buy it either. Do we have to send him that clip
to find out that faking face? Maybe.
Yeah, fake sincerity.
Yeah, yeah, everything about it.
Do you feel anything?
I feel.
When was the last time you really felt?
Last night.
What happened?
The foster dog had to go somewhere else.
So I cried.
It's only the dogs.
She doesn't feel for anything but the dogs.
Not about you. Never about me.
Not about Kalyla. Yeah, about her maybe.
But even still, that might be contrived as well.
Yeah. It's all dog stuff.
It's all dog stuff.
Fucking fake.
You don't feel anything for Bobby at all?
No, I feel
love for Tito Bobby.
But is it love because you're supposed to
because he's paying for you the rent?
No, because he's kind.
I don't buy it.
He's sweet.
Yeah. Do you buy any of this shit?
Kind of.
I'm about to cry.
I'm about to cry right now.
Tell me something. Tell me more.
Tell me more.
See, she rolled her eyes. She did the Santino.
That's me.
Tell me more. You're funny.
Now I know she's lying.
And...
Yeah.
Ouch.
I'm more than those.
Take it away, Doc. Yeah.
How was the magic? Did you feel good about the magic on you?
Oh, man.
I didn't even get to welcome him
because he's been in America hollow.
He lives here.
Fuck. What do you mean?
He's not...
I thought he was...
Yeah, I thought he was flying in.
Goddamn.
I didn't did it again, bro.
Fuck.
I'm horrible at this.
Wait, Doc.
Hold on. Hold on.
Where do you think he came from?
Just tell me what you think.
You thought Shin Lim came from?
Thailand.
Thailand?
Singapore or something?
Oh, you think she's Thai?
I thought she was...
Oh, that's right.
Do you know what she is now?
What?
What is she? Which one?
Manipatio.
Oh, yeah.
You thought Shin Lim came in from Thailand?
You thought Shin came in from Thailand?
From Thailand.
Yeah, I thought he was just lying from out of the country.
Because you said you filmed in Hungary.
He was not from Hungary, right?
You don't listen to him.
You said you filmed a movie.
He filmed a movie in Hungary with Penn Gillette.
And we talked about Shin Lim.
So he's from here, but y'all did a movie in Hungary?
Yeah, but not with...
Shin Lim wasn't in the movie.
Penn Gillette and other magicians.
You knew Penn Gillette is?
No. Have you heard of Penn and Teller?
No.
See, this is my point.
I'm not a young black people into magic.
And that's a big disparity that I'm concerned about.
Stop.
David Blaine, I was right there with you.
He's not black.
Can I just say something?
I wanted to, but you just got a fucking maiden in part.
Russian Jewish and something else?
Penn and Teller isn't...
Oh, black magic. Is that where that comes from?
Black magic refer to the use of supernatural powers
for magic or evil.
Selfish purpose.
Yeah, that's a whole other...
Magicians because of black magic?
Can we just do like a recap?
Because I'm just even trying to fathom
what the fuck this guy's talking about.
By the way, your name should be black magic.
That's so...
What you're saying is that you thought that Shin Lim and I
filmed in Hungary.
So we flew from Thailand to Hungary.
We shot together.
No, you flew from here and met him in Hungary.
Yeah.
And then you think that he lives in Thailand.
You thought he lived in Thailand?
Because, you know, they speak a little English.
Wait a minute, is that the fellas?
Y'all speak English, right?
Fuck it, man. I don't know shit.
You know, man, I'm trying to connect,
but I don't, man.
But Doc, when you see an Asian guy...
Yeah.
Did you think that Shin Lim had an Asian accent?
No.
Right, so in your head...
Oh, I get what you're saying now.
I get it now.
Yeah. Do you?
No, I don't think he does.
I don't think he does.
Where does Shin Lim live right now?
Y'all said in the States, right?
Yeah, but where?
We said it on the fucking show.
Damn, bro.
I was here.
You don't actually say where he was from?
We said he was originally from...
I knew him from where?
He was originally from...
I said Boston, right?
Boston.
Yeah, he was born in Canada.
Yeah, let me ask you this, right?
It was the pressure, right?
Is Thailand in Canada?
No, so what would you say?
Are you sure?
Then why would you think that he was from Thailand?
You know, man,
I was just trying to pick a good Asian country.
Right, right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
It is a good Asian country.
It is pretty good one.
To be fair.
It's a...
Do you think it's real magic,
or do you think his hands are so fast?
Man, I mean, his hands got to be fast.
I don't know what to believe in magic,
but that should have me spoke like you.
So you don't believe in magic?
No.
Right, so you think that was what?
Would they call it sleight of hand or something like that?
Mm-hmm.
I can't explain how he did it.
So maybe that was magic.
Man, y'all up here, y'all bring us...
Oh, see, yeah.
We're bringing the spirits in here, man.
Why does God have anything to do with it?
Because he thinks that's the devil.
He thinks the devil's in the room.
Now, do you realize you're sitting in the devil's chair?
He was in that chair.
See, he feels he needs to bless out.
Yeah.
I know.
He needs to bless out because he's nervous about catching some devil shit.
I have a segment that I want to do with him real quick.
Yeah.
Doc's Pussy Update.
Oh, Doc's Pussy Update.
What's going on?
Nothing. Same on same on.
The fans want to know.
Fans, I'm out here just lonely
to the motherfucker.
Ladies, if you want this guy,
you know, hit me up, you know what I'm saying?
I'm on the Twitter.
Didn't y'all do me a Tinder or Twitter?
Yeah, yeah, the Tinder.
We did a Twitter Tinder.
It's only on Twitter.
Did we do a Tinder for him?
Only dudes.
Only dudes.
Is it Tinder or y'all put me on Grindr?
No Tinder, but the settings we set to only dudes.
There it is.
How many guys?
Hopefully.
Three guys.
None at all.
That's selfish.
Cold to the heart.
Do you really believe that the devil is a real thing?
Yeah, I feel something like that out there.
Do you think he's part of the devil?
Nah, he's a good dude, man.
You don't think there's any devil in him?
Nah, man, he's got that energy.
Like a little bit of Lord there, I feel it.
You don't feel it?
This is on you and not me.
We're being on a positive vibe, I'm trying to...
I feel it.
All right, Doc.
I mean, you know what, Doc?
What's that?
Let's say something positive about the guy.
About Doc?
We've been trying to get you on the other podcasts
before this one.
You weren't available.
I'm glad that you're here.
When you're here,
it literally makes me feel
like I'm literally baffled about
what you do and don't know
and how you think about things
and how you don't retain information.
And it really makes...
Mysterious, right?
Yeah, you are mysterious.
That's what it is.
I don't know where you live.
Do you live with people?
By myself, Doc.
Down the street, I told you.
Close to here?
You ever watch Martin?
I am the Tommy of this podcast.
You are Tommy of this podcast.
And I'm Gina.
Yeah.
And he's Shanayne.
You're 100% Shanayne.
You're 100% Shanayne.
No, you're Cole.
Oh my God, yeah, you are.
He didn't watch the show.
Have you ever seen any black shows?
I saw The Wire.
Okay, I'll give that to you.
Did you ever see The Jeffersons?
I loved The Jeffersons. You did.
One of my favorites. It was so good.
I remember watching Good Times.
Jeffersons.
Different Strokes. Cosby.
Cosby, yeah, yeah.
Why did you cut your eyes
when you said different strokes?
I know you loved it.
Was that an inspiration at all?
Yeah, to you.
I mean, when you see another little dude,
you feel good in your heart.
That's like me with Andy Griffith.
I thought I could do that.
You said you was Italian.
I thought you was Irish.
Let me ask you this, Doc.
How tall was your dad?
Five, six, five, seven.
I was about to make such an easy joke.
Five, five, five.
And you're five, three?
So do you think watching Different Strokes
and you're looking at this right guy, right?
Yeah.
Do you think you willed the way you look now?
What?
Like you made it happen.
You made it happen.
The way I look?
I don't even understand a question.
Okay, did you eat vitamins growing? What happened?
Oh, you're talking about how little I am.
Yeah, shit, I ain't eat no vitamins, man.
I think that's the problem.
You think so? Yeah, yeah.
What you little do? What the fuck happened?
Did you eat vitamins?
I'm almost six too.
My mom is five foot
and my dad was like four nine.
Yeah.
All right, so I'm five three.
You're a giant.
I'm a giant. His parents are taller, right?
Yeah.
So I ate my vitamins.
You ate some, yeah, for sure.
You nibbled a little bit.
Do you have friendstone vitamins?
Did you have friendstones?
We had Flintstones, not friendstones.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, well, the way my parents, yeah, friendstones.
Calm down.
Rabarabadoo.
Rabarabadoo.
Right, yeah, yeah.
Rabarabadoo.
Friendstone vitamins.
I used to watch the translation of the Flintstones, right?
And they would go Rabarabadoo, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to watch it.
Yeah.
But also, the vehicle was different.
It was more of a rickshaw.
So we go Rabarabadoo, right?
And do the rickshaw.
Did you watch Asian Simpsons?
You know, can I be honest with you?
You've never seen symptoms?
I've never seen an episode of the Simpsons.
Get out of my house.
It's such a fucking good show.
It's such a fucking good show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rabarabadoo.
Holy shit, is that funny to me.
Yeah.
So, Doc, I go to the spa at night sometimes.
You know.
Would you go to the spa with me?
Korean spa?
Yeah, yeah.
You have to get completely naked.
Okay.
I know, but I feel like you'd be uncomfortable
about that.
Around you, yeah.
I'm not going to slap ass, bro.
Yeah, but I just...
I know, but would you go?
No, I mean, be honest with you.
Two dudes naked, that's not...
I go with Ian Edwards sometimes.
Just you and Ian, y'all got that connection.
Yeah, but you wouldn't go with us.
There it is.
Why though, because...
I know, but why?
That's offensive to me.
Yeah, yeah.
You see, you're afraid of being around another man naked.
I just don't...
Did you ever shower in sports?
Yeah, all the time.
That's an easy thing.
You go to the YMCA and shower.
Why don't you guys go play a sport beforehand?
Let's do a sport, and then we'll do it.
Why? Why we got to go somewhere naked?
That's what you should ask.
Because the spa in the spa,
and the Korean spa that I go, everyone's naked, that's all.
You could wear shorts, I guess.
You know what I mean? Bro.
I was in a steam room in Germany once.
But naked?
Not only was I naked, the steam room,
everyone, and it's men and women.
You're supposed to have a towel on, huh?
So you just dingaling, just walking through this?
I'm not fucking self-conscious about my body.
It's not about that, it's just...
It's about what?
It's about respect of space.
I'm not going to touch you.
I'm not a nudity type of dude.
What are you going to do?
We had a great date.
With the ladies.
What?
Wait a minute, you just told us you didn't get any ladies lately.
You have nothing to report about women.
Nothing, I have nothing.
Have you been on a date since we saw you?
No, man, I've been working, and that's it.
You keep saying that.
You know, we've been working too.
You can work and also still have something else.
I am by myself, my boy.
Something's going on.
I hope on the next time we see you on the show,
well, no, it's just because we're gone.
Yeah, we're gone for three weeks.
But I hope that a lady comes into your life,
and next time Shin Lim comes, which will be never again.
Okay.
Don't fuck up the cards.
Yeah, but that was...
It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Ever seen? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, well, take us out.
Doc, I love you to death, you're the best in the world.
Look in that camera to the right, you know,
and then hit us with the...
Thank you for being a bad friend.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Woo!
Woo!
You're not a fucking leader.
I just made you do that, you follower bitch.
I'm a fucking you did.
That fits nice.
How many times do you think
you've knocked that off the wall?
30?
I like that zero shirt.
You're the leader, then.
I'm the leader of the podcast.
Do you really think so? Yeah.
Oh, interesting, I love it.
Bad friends featuring Andrew Santino
and Rudy Jules and Bobby Lee.
I love the way that you put your name first
in everything that we do.
Yeah.
I think it goes, not only does it go by leadership roles
in the podcast, it also goes by effort.
Oh!
It's effort, ability, and likeability.
Effort, ability, likeability.
Right.
You think I got you beaten? No, no you don't.
Oh, 100% dude.
It's so fucking blasphemous
that you would see something like that.
At this point, this many episodes, I think the guests,
I think the fans see through your...
Uh-huh.
I think the fans see through your bullshit.
I think they know that.
Mr. OCD here, what the fuck are you doing, dude?
He's got Tourette's.
Dude, I almost pulled a Christian bill just now.
I went crazy.
I should have done that.
Don't get in my shot!
Is that what he did?
He goes, good for you!
Good for you!
Yeah. I thought it was fake.
Didn't you think it was fake the whole time?
Also, he says stuff in the Christian bill thing
where he says like, you know what, man?
I'm not going to work with you. I'll hang out with you,
but I won't work with you. Does this make sense?
I totally agree with that statement.
There's people that... They don't hang out though.
You don't hang out with the DP or anything like that, do you?
I think it was a grip or something like that.
Do you believe it?
The cameraman.
You go out with the cameraman and have dinner.
AC's? I go out with everybody.
Yeah. If there's a function or like...
No.
I go out.
Sometimes when I'm on Magnum, right?
The Mexican guy. What's his name?
Jay Hernandez.
Yes. So I love him. Really talented.
I know his name.
So something will go, hey man, you know what I mean?
We're going to go to my house or...
Like wardrobe and people will show up, right?
Yeah. And I'll do those things.
But I don't text a cameraman and goes,
hey, you want to have lunch at two? Do you do that?
All the time.
I text grips.
I text...
You're such a liar.
I'll text PA's to go eat lunch. Production assistants.
Are you being real?
In the office. Not even on set.
Like a production accounting assistant.
I can see writer. I'll go out with a...
Okay.
Those that are getting paid the least.
Have you ever had lunch with Pete?
Huh?
Have you ever had lunch with Pete?
Well, first of all,
we're talking about...
First of all, you're talking about shows that I'm on.
This is a show?
It's not a show. Yeah. If you say...
This is a charade.
It's a charade, but it's still a show. And I want to say this.
When you Google my name, right, and it gives me the credits
of what I've done under TV shows and movies, right?
It says shit.
Bad friend. That's number one. Number one is shit.
Number two, it says tiger belly and the bad friends
as a TV show. So what I'm saying is...
This is a TV show.
Have you fucking ever had lunch
with fucking melting candle Pete?
I've had lunch with Andres.
Yeah, but not Pete.
And that's how I know you're lying.
With Andres? Have I had lunch with you, Andres?
Yes, we have.
Yeah, but Andres is a producer.
So is Pete. What the fuck do you think Pete is?
He's just not a guy?
Thanks for watching.