Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet - 296: Reviews of Pet Supplements

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello our Sand Monsters we are so excited to announce we are going on tour this summer so you can come see us live as we read one star reviews of places in your town. Two of our shows are already sold out, Seattle and Portland thank you. We got 10 more shows after that and we're going all across the country so we can't wait to see you all. Go to Beach2Sandy.com to see where we are headed and go get your tickets. Welcome to Beach Too Sandy Water Too Wet, a podcast featuring real reviews written by people who just need the world to know what they think. Between you and me, I wanted to like this podcast but I'd give it zero stars if I could. Hello and welcome to Beach to Sandy Water 2 at the podcast where we read the worst reviews in the most dramatic fashion. I know what everyone's here for today. We're covering pet supplements. Thank you, Selena, for suggesting that.
Starting point is 00:01:09 If I had known that I would one day be spending hours of my life reading about bird nutrition and lizard nutrition when in reality I don't have either of those animals in my home, I wouldn't believe it, but here we are. Those are some good ones. Yeah, I think this is gonna be either of those animals in my home. I wouldn't believe it. But here we are. Those are some good ones Yeah, I think this is gonna be one of those episodes that Will go down in history. Yeah, it's one that you know, I mean they all do they all do this one especially for sure
Starting point is 00:01:36 This one especially Yeah, this and then what's your challenge for today? I don't even remember So my challenge was sent in by Gregory and it's to find reviews that mentioned an eating challenge. And people were very excited to send in some topics for that. So I have many of those for you. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but did you ever like participate like even jokingly in some sort of eating challenge or have a story? I feel like there's some connection. You know what, maybe I did. And I'm just forgetting. You're just projecting it on me.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah. I feel like we have some, it might later. Well, your reviews might trigger something. I was gonna say, it might come up. We'll have some tangent later for sure. We've probably already discussed it in 16 other episodes that people remember and we just don't. So, you know, they're going to remind us. Alrighty. Do you want to go ahead with a review of a pet supplement? This is so weird I would love to talk. I don't know what you're talking about. I think it's very timely and important this is a review from Amazon of
Starting point is 00:02:39 Fluker's Repta calcium reptile supplement with added vitamin D3. It's so strange to me. No offense to reptiles. I just find it so fascinating that you like have a pet reptile and you feed it calcium supplements. I don't know. Like not saying they don't deserve them.
Starting point is 00:03:00 They do. I just, I've, as someone who's never owned a reptile as a pet, um, and has grown up with like cats and dogs, which I'm like, have a, okay, no, I'm not, I'm going to be, I feel like I'm hating on lizards and stuff. I'm not, I love them. Usually I'm the lizard hater, so I'm glad it's not me this time. I don't know. Uh, like how does one know? You know, I'm curious. I bet, I wonder if it's like skin, like you can,
Starting point is 00:03:25 like it just seems so interesting because I feel like it's so hard to tell even with a cat or a dog, how do you know your lizard needs calcium, you know? Yeah, like I imagine they're not doing blood draws on an iguana, but like maybe they could. I mean, I'm sure they could on the big ones. Maybe that's more saliva because those tongues,
Starting point is 00:03:41 that those, do they have tongues? That's a chameleon. Oh, their saliva shows a calcium deficiency. I don't know anything about reptiles, so I'm just going to let you read a review. Maybe I'll learn something. Yeah, probably. So this is a one-star view by Melissa.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's a verified purchase called Messy, and I won't be buying it again. My turtle won't eat anything that I put this on. He just ends up with it covered all over him. Meanwhile, I don't eat it because I'm a human, so I don't know about the taste. Shaking my head, end of review. I mean, I don't think the turtle's really concerned
Starting point is 00:04:14 about the taste. Maybe they are, but it feels like turtles probably wouldn't be the pickiest eaters, but again, maybe I'm wrong. Also, is a turtle even a reptile? Who knows? I don't think, I think they're amphibians. Yeah, I do too. I could be wrong, but I feel like they spend a lot. Oh, you know what? I don't know how to tell
Starting point is 00:04:29 Amphibian maybe I was gonna say they spent a lot of time in water. I think But maybe not. Oh god, I This this whole reptile amphibian train. I feel like we've had this like discussion and so many times We did not solve anything and we probably what you don't care send us in answers I do care but people send us in answers I still don't know so like don't feel like you have to educate us because I promise you you're just gonna get mad and resentful when we don't learn it by next time yeah yeah or we do learn it and then we just forget that's usually how it goes yeah my first one here is a review of purina pro plan veterinary diet. So it's
Starting point is 00:05:10 I don't know prescription food for your pet prescription food. Sure You know better than I feline probiotic supplement, okay One star review titled literally the worst 1 star review, titled literally the worst. My late cat Bean loved the HydraCare supplement, so when I got a new kitten and she began having diarrhea issues, I ordered this. Before it arrived, her diarrhea subsided, so I didn't give her any. But recently I decided, hey, it's a probiotic. Even if she doesn't have diarrhea now, it's still a good supplement.
Starting point is 00:05:44 After all, I take a probiotic myself. So I gave it to her as instructed. It gave her the worst diarrhea. I had to bathe her because it got all over her rear end. It was even on the inside of the top of her litter box hood. It was so explosive, I heard it happen. Praise God that I did because she would have tracked the little crappy feet all over my apartment. Definitely will not be using this again.
Starting point is 00:06:09 End of review. That's like the dangers of additional supplemental health care, I feel like, for your pet, because you can't ask them, like, do you feel like your tummy needs some assistance in regulating? Yeah. That's what I'm saying with reptiles like yeah it's even harder to tell but yeah yeah that gives me like just the heebie-jeebies all over to think about this cat poor cat like just tracking its own oh my god I will say I feel like to compare it to yourself and be like well I take a probiotic Yeah, I've taken some stuff and let's just some supplements and let's just say they have messed up my stomach
Starting point is 00:06:51 That's just how it's gone and like I don't know once I I will I was taking an antibiotic and I woke up in the morning and was supposed to take my ADHD medication and I accidentally took Because I hadn't taken the ADHD medicine I took the antibiotic on an empty stomach. I threw up like within 20 minutes. It was so bad. Yeah so I learned my lesson to like keep them more separated so I don't just like... it was such a weird like just autopilot moment where I took it and I'm putting the cap on it and they're completely different bottles. Like one is three times the size and I put in the cap on it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I'm like, huh, I don't know why I just took that pill. But I think that was a bad idea. And sure enough, it was. Your body will tell you. Your body keeps the score is what I always say. That's so true. It's oh gosh. It's the tally marks. There's so many of them in the bad column. We're starting to run out of space Wow, that's that's why we don't feed our pets any supplements because I don't want that happening To my dog, just kidding my dog literally eats rocks and stuff
Starting point is 00:07:57 So like I can feed him whatever and he'll eat it and I'm and it probably won't It'll either work or like it'll be fine and he'll just get an extra treat So that's that's part of why I don't want to have any pets. I mean the responsibility and like you read all these Reviews and you realize yeah All these pets are very different and very need very different specific things in order to be healthy That's how that's why you got to be just telepathic with your pet like I am. Oh, is that how it works? That's how it works for me. Okay well your pets are telepathic with me and all they say is feed me they don't feed me here. Yeah wait that's weird that's what they say to
Starting point is 00:08:32 me too. Okay that's all they say? Got it. Yeah okay weird okay um Juniper says some other troubling things about like the universe and his ownership of you know. I close my eyes when I look at Juniper because I cannot have him looking in my brain. He is otherworldly. Especially on an empty stomach. Oh no, you're so right. Yeah, it would be really bad. So I have a review here.
Starting point is 00:08:53 This is called Morning Bird Liquid Iodine Dietary Bird Supplement from Chewy. And this one, like, I don't know if this is funny, but I just read it and was like, what is going on here? I just read a review of a cat having really loud diarrhea. I don't know if that's funny. Yeah, but that feels at least at a base level funny. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, the children listening will enjoy it. One star. Absolutely horrible idea. If you buy this, you should not be allowed to own a dog. End of review. Oh! This is a very clearly a bird supplement. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:09:34 It has a picture of a bird on it. I was gonna say that, but there's a picture on of a bird. There's birds all over the page. There's birds all over the bottle and the packaging. Oh my gosh. Don't give that to your dog. Like what are you doing? I read one review. I didn't bring it.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Maybe I should have. And it was, it might have been, I don't know what it was of, but someone said like, oh, like my babies don't like this. And they put parentheses dogs to make sure that people like, don't worry. I'm not giving it to my human. Because at first thought it was funny and then I'm like you know what it's probably a good thing they clarify. Yeah I've had child protective services show up and I'm like I don't have kids and they're like really somebody reported you for feeding avian liquid iodine drops to your children worry, those were my baby parakeets. So sorry. I didn't mean to confuse you. Oh boy. It's an important distinction.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. Alrighty. My next one, this is from Stephanie and she, they, who sent in a review of chew no poo bites. Have you heard of these? Mm. Mm. Is this like they're not supposed to eat any more of their own poop?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. It helps them with eating poop. Like it helps digest it or like, no, it actually, I think from what I've read. So it's it is like a it has ingredients like apple cider vinegar, whatever, like healthy, quote unquote, healthy stuff for dogs. But also it has something that's meant to give poop a bad flavor. That's what I was.. Okay, okay, okay. So then when they try to eat it, they're like, oh, nevermind.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I don't like eating poop anymore. And then they stop eating poop. It's so funny that you need to make poop taste bad to it. They're like, this tastes great. You hear of dogs and see dogs that are just like fucking dying to get at that poop to eat it. So nasty. And it's so like- Gio eats cat poop, which is foul But like he scarfs that stuff up, but dogs who eat their own poop I just is like isn't that some sort of evolutionarily like shouldn't we have you know, I mean it's like when humans crave something
Starting point is 00:11:37 You know, it's like some they're missing maybe some sort of there's some sort of deficiency potentially. I don't know There's probably so many reasons but with a dog like how do you fucking know they're just eating their poop and you're like please stop it just tastes good so this is supposed to help with that and here's a two-star review though I've been giving this to my puppy for several weeks now she's now not only eating her poop but my other dogs as well it just added that je ne sais quoi to all poop. It's like, Oh, it was just missing a little extra something. Now their poop tastes even better.
Starting point is 00:12:13 All of it. I can't even, Oh my gosh, that is not good. That is like more than the opposite intended effect. Like that just made it worse than the original problem. I will say overall I mean for many I will say many of these supplements had very High reviews it was very there were very few for me the ones that I read And then this one I was surprised at how positively this seemed to work People really said that it completely stopped their dog from eating poop just other people's Yeah, and then and then other ones were like, my dog likes poop more now.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So the- What a risky gamble. I know. I'm seriously wondering, should I get something like that for GEO? I don't know. Yeah. For the litter box?
Starting point is 00:12:59 No, maybe, it might work. But they did say that the business did respond and they said that it might work for some and might not work for other dogs. But they said all purchases have a lifetime, 100% satisfaction guarantee. So they at least are aware of that. So then they have to ask, so are you satisfied or not? It's hard to tell.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Are you satisfied with the outcome or not? Is that good that they're cleaning up after your other dogs or do you not want that? Because it sounds pretty good to me. Yeah, it feels like that's probably fine. It's less having to pick up your dog's poop because your dog's eating it for you. Less littering, all that good stuff. I have a review of something called Missing Link Avian Formula. That's so vague. I know. But with the thrown in missing link, what is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Why? It sounds like some- Like, because they're dinosaurs? Am I, like, I don't know. Because aren't birds dinosaurs? That's probably really stupid. Yeah, no, I think they are. But this sounds like some sort of formula that you'd find in a lab at Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:14:04 The missing link, yes. And it was just something that the velociraptors got into and now they can fly. Now they eat each other's poop. Oh, that too. I think they were already doing that though. Okay, the company is called Missing Link Products and they make like supplements and nutritious food
Starting point is 00:14:21 for all sorts of animals, dogs, cats. And cryptids? That sounds like a cryptid type thing missing the missing link. Yeah, it does No, I just see a corgi which you know could be encrypted in and of itself, but All right, that is that so let me read the review. It's a one-star by Kuki and The title is not something birds should be eating beef liver It's a one star. By Kuki. And the title is, not something birds should be eating.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Beef liver? Huh? Always look at the ingredients. Yeast infections are a real threat to birds. So why put yeast in a bird supplement? And beef liver? It's a common mistake to give birds eggs, which has recently been proven very damaging.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So who thought it was cool to give them a cow organ? Birds need a diet of a non-seed-based pellets like rowdy bush, mostly veggie mash and chop, and sprouted seed. Is this supplement made specifically to kill our birds? Chewy needs to be careful about their products. I am very disappointed. End of review. I don't know anything about bird diets. You do now. From one source on the internet. I think I know more.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah. Are you good over, it looks like there's a earthquake over there. Sorry, it's on like a little like stand. I'm sorry, I'll stop moving it. It's just every time I like click, I bumped the thing. Here, I moved it back. There you go. I'll stop moving it. It's just every time I like click I hit bump the thing here. I moved it back There you go
Starting point is 00:15:46 Can birds oh wow Okay Let's just read what what Google fills in can birds see glass eat chocolate eat rice see color fly in the rain cry Eat grapes eat cat food or recover from avian pox Wow can birds fly in the rain I said it sounded so beautiful in some way. Can birds cry? That's all I'm gonna- Can birds cry when doves cry in the rain? Birds cry real tears when they're sad or in pain. Yeah, so do I. They're not special.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I think so. Okay. Yeah, so that sounds like a lot of weird things to put in a bird It sounds like it was made palatable for velociraptors I think the beef liver and can still convinced that this is for They would eat like they would feed it like Joe Exotic's zoo like mixture of like beef liver and some other stuff that we just toss you know We're not gonna give you the specifics. We're just gonna toss it into the tiger cage and you'll just have to trust us on that and it's sitting in a giant Barrel that used to hold oil. It was just a giant bear. I mean, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah They just scoop it out throw it on the floor in front of all these birds. Yeah But yeah, I don't know. I mean this website looks very charming and like they care about animals
Starting point is 00:17:00 So I would imagine they're not just you know, trying to kill your bird I think that and they mentioned Chewy. So this was probably in a Chewy box that From the Chewy website. Yeah, Oh, we website selling this sorry. I see I see this brand specifically is sold on But you're on their brand's website or I am I'm on the brand's website and I'm looking at all these beautiful pictures of people. I forgot to tell you by the way, I really the other day decided I wanted a bird as a pet. Like I wanted to rescue a bird. Is this why all these bird supplements? I'm surprised you found all these birds. It seems so random. Yeah, that's why. That's why I looked specifically at birds. You were doing research. Yeah. But now, well, I talked to somebody and I thought, oh, they're going to support my idea of getting a bird.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Was his name blaze? No, blaze has not heard of this plan yet. Cause I'm finding my sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm finding my time. Um, but like, you know, I have two cats, probably not a great idea. I would only want to, you know, rescue a bird. I take, I know it takes a lot of education to figure out how to raise, you know, specific birds. And of course I would want the cool ones that talk, you know, and I think it's the only reason why is because I was on Tik TOK and then I saw a bunch of parrot, I started, I was on parrot talk and then I started reading like about African grays and like, they're so smart and interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:17 D's family had an African gray when she was little. I have not heard a positive word. And look, no, I mean, like, I think it just kind of just was a tough thing to have, like it was very tough for them. But tough for the bird too, you know? What am I gonna do, go on Kentucky Rover and be like, come take care of my African gray parrot and my cats. Like, I know it's never gonna work.
Starting point is 00:18:41 When I say not a good word, I don't mean like, oh, they all fucking hated this fucking parrot You know, it wasn't like that. It was just like It was one of those things where deeds now like would not wreck us. So talk to D maybe about this I'm not gonna talk to D or blaze because they're the only ones who are gonna have Have wise wise advice sage advice for me. Yeah, which is just don't do this Think about it here. Look at this one, the Quaker parrot.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I'm on the missing link Instagram. The Quaker parrot. Yeah, these friendly birds have either blue or green plumage and are comparatively easy to train, confident, social and enjoy entertaining. I think I could handle that. No. Also, if it's meant, so yeah, if it's meant, you know, I don't know how this rescuing
Starting point is 00:19:27 of parrots works. Where are you rescuing? You know, like, because I feel like they don't belong in your home in northern Kentucky, but I could be wrong. It would have to be like one of those situations on TikTok where they're like, don't just get a pet. You have to like learn where it's coming from and make sure it's in the right, has the right environment, all that good stuff. So I haven't even Googled that yet. It's just been percolating. And I knew everyone would tell me not to,
Starting point is 00:19:50 so I haven't really dived into it because I knew it was never actually gonna happen. But I was talking to somebody, interestingly named Avery over the weekend, who was a fan of the pot and that's what we drink. And so I was. Hey, you said it not me you're right and after this conversation uh-oh he basically said he basically said oh well you know birds are a lot
Starting point is 00:20:17 but because i thought he was gonna say oh go for it because he's like a fan of the podcast i'm like oh he's just gonna tell me whatever i want to hear. No, he was like, and he goes, well, I've pet rats. And I was like, oh, I love rats. And he said, yeah, they're really sweet and emotionally intelligent and blah, blah, blah. And then he goes, although come to think of it, their lifespan is about two years. So it's like a really tremendous grief you go through.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And I went, nevermind, I don't have, like none of this is gonna work. I knew that I was gonna say that. Literally, the one, I've thought, I was like, if I got a pet, I would love to get a rat. I don't have like I knew that was gonna work. I was literally the one I've I've thought I was like if I got A pet I would love to get a rat Yeah heard great things and then I heard that and I've done the same thing and thought you know what I Don't think I'm in any I can but I can barely take care of myself right now Seriously, I definitely should not be taking care of any pet
Starting point is 00:21:00 But yeah, you know if a bird comes to me and like is like, take me home, you know, maybe I will. But otherwise, I think it's out of the question. Yeah, I don't think an African Grey is gonna land on your porch saying, put me in a cage in there please. Do you have two cats and a dog? That'd be great. What if one is willed to me in someone's will? Who do you know is that's gonna will a fucking African Grey to you when they die? Who do you know is that's going to will a fucking African gray to you when they die? Who do you know? If I knew that wouldn't be mysterious or fun. Look, if you get called by some random attorney and they say, look,
Starting point is 00:21:37 you were in this person's will and all they left you is this parrot. I would tell you, you do what you have to do. Well, I would hope they'd also leave the parrots like cage and... Yeah, I don't, we don't know that because I don't know who this mystery person is. I don't either and that's part of the fun. It's not fun. This sounds not fun. Cause like who knows what they taught this bird? What if they were a racist? They probably are. That'll be a lot of, I'll have to give it anti-racist lessons.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yes. We don't have some books we could'll have to give it anti-racist lessons. We're gonna have some books we could work with the bird. This is a great plan. Anyway I think this all sounding actually really good I'm coming back around on my own plan. That's not what we wanted here but at least you know about some supplements to give your future bird. No eggs or beef liver, got it. Yeah according to this random reviewer. According to a reviewer named Kuki. Okay, this next one is from Avi, A-V-I. You think that's pronounced Avi? Avi, Avi, Avi, Avi, I'd say Avi.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Here's a review of Doggie Daily's Senior Essentials Multivitamin for Dogs Soft Chews. You know, here's a one star review. multivitamin for dogs soft chews. Um, you know. Here's a one-star review. This review is on Amazon, written by someone named Mr. Adam D. Levine. Oh! One star. The one and only.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Itchy wasn't a fan. Itchy's mother bought her these for her birthday, even though she said she just wanted cash money as a gift. Itchy prefers centrum multivitamins wrapped in real bacon instead of these. End of review. Okay, Itchy probably likes everything wrapped in bacon instead of these. And Itchy being a senior dog looks just... There's a picture? Yes. Okay, I love that you would name your dog Itchy and be like, it's the weirdest thing. being a senior dog looks just... There's a picture? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Okay, I love that you would name your dog Itchy and be like, it's the weirdest thing. His coat is really, it just keeps scratching. And Christina, Itchy looks itchy, you know? Like Itchy, when you hear that name Itchy, this is what you think of. Are you sending me a picture? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:23:42 It was texted to you. Oh my God. me a picture? Yeah I did. It was texted to you. Oh my god. Itchy looks like he's about to start shouting that he wants bacon over his centrum. Yeah I think Itchy would teach an African Grey some inappropriate things. Yeah Itchy has whiskers, like full on like old man whiskers. That's hilarious. Itchy's gonna live forever. Why are they even worried? Look at Itchy. He's gonna live forever. Don't even worry about it. I'm very confused. So I think Itchy is a girl because it says
Starting point is 00:24:12 Itchy's mother bought her these for her birthday but then it says even though she just wanted cash money as a gift. So this dog... Well I don't blame her for that. She's lived a long life. Look, Itchy's relatable. Don't get me wrong. Itchy's incredibly relatable. Itchy prefers centrum multivitamins wrapped in real bacon.
Starting point is 00:24:28 This is so sad. And the fact that Itchy is sitting here, by the way, folks, on, it looks like to be a very comfortable surface, maybe a bedspread, with a bowl in front of her, with the pellets of food, and is just actively not, just staring past the pellet of food, as though to say to say this is not take us away to my yeah up to my high standards I thought I thought I asked for cash yeah this is this is actually the container that the food that the like the full container of it is set
Starting point is 00:25:01 that's the full container of a full container of that she's sitting in front I know you she just has an open container of the full to the brim so proof of that and see there's one sitting between her legs and she has her legs splayed out to be like I don't want to be away from my body and I refuse to look at the person that set this in front of me if you look at her face it looks like she's about to start growling. Oh, she might have already started at this point. I mean, come on I have a redemption here. This is of Believe it or not Fluker's repta calcium reptile supplement with Adam it added vitamin D3, you know
Starting point is 00:25:39 I was hoping we'd get a redemption for this product. We had I had to find one. Yeah, thank you So I guess the so I got a little confused because I looked up. Oh Wait, oh, I'm wrong I'm sorry. I put the wrong product because this is for a bird product. So this I think this is missing link Here I was so excited my mistake mistake I do not have a redemption of fluke is calcium reptile shame I'm so sorry but there were plenty of good reviews they were just like my lizard eats it because again I don't know like what else you would say besides a little pep in his step you know I will say most
Starting point is 00:26:19 of the reviews I read even for cats and dogs were like this is doing what it's supposed to do or this isn't doing what it's supposed to do My dog likes it my dog doesn't like it and for reptiles. It was like they either eat it or they don't I can't tell what they're Doing they just stick their tongue out at me and sit there all day in the under a heat lamp So I can't get any Vibe off of my line to connect as often as I can it's just not working so I apologize. This is now a, this is one of the bird supplements
Starting point is 00:26:49 and I am pretty confident that it is the missing link avian formula. It's a five star review. My four month old parrot lit, by the way, imagine having a four month old parrot lit and knowing it's gonna outlive you. Yeah, how- wait, is that what they're called? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Parrotlet? Yep. Huh. Look it up, it's so cute. Oh, like look up- Type in parrotlet. Does it look like a parakeet? Like a small bird?
Starting point is 00:27:16 It's a baby parrot, yeah. A baby parrot is so cute. Oh my god, they do kind of look like parakeets. They're so cute. Wait. Look at these ones, hold on. Wait, oh my god they do kind of look like parakeets they're so cute wait look at these ones hold on oh my gosh I'm gonna add this I'm gonna add this into the notes too so Zoe can post it somewhere cuz it's so cute oh my gosh I mean look at them and imagine that they can cry real tears out stop okay so can I though so can I okay?
Starting point is 00:27:45 But no one's being like you're so cute. Everyone's like they are I'll give you something to cry about Here's a five-star review of this avian formula My four-month-old parrot lit bit my finger hard and the next day he stopped eating You would maybe he felt guilty. I think that he got a taste for human blood and thought give me nothing but this for the rest of my 90 years of life or whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:11 however long parrots live. The next hit Stephen King novel, this bird that lives forever is in somebody's will, just like I said earlier. It arrives and now it has a taste for human flesh. And yeah, I love this story. Terrorizes multiple generations. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah My four-month-old parrotlet bit my finger hard and the next day he stopped eating
Starting point is 00:28:32 He would pick at food yet was not voraciously consuming like he had been since arriving from the breeder He was losing weight and breathing rapidly The vet we had visited for his Wellbird checkup declined to make an appointment for this issue saying that they don't offer meds for a bird that small. I did some research and took a chance on this. While the container does not show instructions for use in drinking water, Chewy has them in the product listing. Thankfully Van Gogh is now eating heartily and accepting new fruits and veg. It's only been 48 hours since the first sip of his new miracle water. I know he's back to being himself
Starting point is 00:29:08 because he's started scolding me when I leave the room. End of review. Can you imagine it's four months old, it's already yelling at you. Yeah, and then you've got to deal with that for decades. Decades. Wow, that sounds fun. It's not, I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Also, this couldn't have been the avian, whatever, it was some liquid bird supplement. I clearly did not write the correct name down, I apologize, but whatever it was. Why couldn't it be the other one? Because it was like a liquid drop you put, this one said like you put it in the water. I thought the other one was liquid too,
Starting point is 00:29:40 didn't you say that? Oh, it could have been, I don't know. Man, I can't keep up track with of all of these it's a lot of work avian supplements these birds are a lot of work we don't even have one yet no i think this one you put in like your it's you sprinkle the the reptile or the avian one you sprinkle on the food got it okay um i think and then this is a dropper for the water like a dropper for your water. Miracle water, I could use some miracle water.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That feels, remember Miracle Mana by Stephen Popoff or whatever his name was? No. Reverend Popoff, he was like this guy that we thought was so funny on TV in the middle of the night. Alyssa and I would like watch his infomercials and then now that I'm older, it's not funny anymore
Starting point is 00:30:26 because it's just sad, because he would mail you, miracle spring water from God that heals you for three payments of $19.99. Oh, fuck, what channels were you watching? He was a televangelist back in the day, and we thought it was so funny. And Alyssa signed me up,
Starting point is 00:30:42 and I still get mail from his organization even though I believe he has passed. I love that I looked up Reverend Popoff Miracle Water and the top question is, are you supposed to drink the miracle spring water? Like I wouldn't do that. Are you not supposed to? I see, I don't even know what you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I'm curious, what do you put it on? I love this. Sprinkle it on your parrot's food or something? If you've been living under a rock, Popoff was a popular televangelist in the 1980s, but now he can be seen in commercials promoting his miracle spring water. Okay, so anyway. So when he when she said, oh, he's drinking his miracle water, I was like, oh god. He's not the Beatles, you know. There's certain things that you kind of expect people within the United States
Starting point is 00:31:24 of a certain age to know about, why would Reverend Popoff be at that level? Well, you know, and the website that said that was, let me see what it was called. Beatlesmania.com, no, it was some website like Sports 98.5. So I don't know. Oh, like a radio station. It was some radio station, 98.5 the So I don't know like a radio station. It was some radio state 98.5 the sports hub Yeah, should have known so I don't know why I should have known but I don't either and I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:52 I don't know either. I don't know. I don't know when I listen to the Reds on WLW and Cincinnati if I I don't know if I when I was back when I was driving there I then turn off the car and then keep watching at home or listening or whatever. And then later I get my car turn on and WLW will still be playing, but the Reds game isn't happening. And it's all this fucking far right, like super Christian, like talk show bullshit. Like within 10 seconds, you're like, oh, my God, they talk about this on the radio. And then you turn it off anyway. Yeah, yeah, well if-
Starting point is 00:32:26 So that's what that reminded me of a little. In that case, you probably should know about Peter Popoff. Yeah, I guess. I probably have just purposefully buried him somewhere inside my brain. Not in real life, I was not involved with his death. Oh my God, that's so weird, because he vanished and everyone wondered
Starting point is 00:32:44 if someone buried them deep in their brain. Death. Oh my god. That's so weird because he vanished and everyone wondered if so if someone Buried them deep in their brain. Well, I've never heard of him. I'm gonna move on Rocket money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions Monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so that you can grow your savings The dashboard shows this month's spending compared to last month so you can clearly see your spending habits. And thanks to Rocket Money, I've found myself stressing out about my finances a lot less because I know that they're tracking my spending and I know that they'll let me know if my
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Starting point is 00:34:03 I take some of my favorite people out to dinner, including, yes, my modern family co-stars, like Ed O'Neill. I had friends in Organized Cry. Sofia Vergara. Why do you wanna be corruptible? Julie Bowen. I used to be the crier.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And Aubrey Anderson-Emmons. I was so down bad for the middle of Miranda when I was like 18. You can listen to Dinners on Me wherever you get your podcasts. Miranda when I was like, you can listen to dinners on me wherever you get your podcasts. Here's a review sent in by Christine of pet honesty, hemp, hip, and joint supplement for dogs, oil and hemp powder.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Um, and this is a review of the bacon flavor. One star. Dog decided the product smelled awful and wasn't edible. Decided to try this out based on product reviews. I chose the bacon flavor. Tried to feed to my dog. Dog said, no way I'm eating this. That evening I broke product up and added to her food. She ate her food and left chunks of the broken up product in bowl. Next day tried to mix with food again. Dog took sniff of bowl and walked away. Later in the day dog still not eating food with product in it. I dumped that meal in the trash and gave her another bowl with product not in it. She wolfed that down just like normal. So I tried a small bite of the product myself.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Now I understand the dog's reaction. Absolutely horrible tasting. End of review. Oh, well now it makes sense. Did you try the regular food too? Just to compare? He assumed it tasted great beforehand. Yeah. It says bacon flavor. Why wouldn't it taste good? I mean, try the real food that the dog does like and see if that also tastes delicious. That's when you'll know, because if that's also delicious,
Starting point is 00:35:51 or if that is delicious, then yeah, you're onto something. But if that's also nasty, that's because it's dog food. I was a little alarmed at the number of people that felt their pet's taste would be similar to their own. Oh my God, what? No, I did see multiple people try food, try these supplements and say, what, yeah, my dog didn't like this,
Starting point is 00:36:11 of course, it tastes bad. It's like, well, I'm sorry. Yeah, Renee tries everything before giving it to Benny. And whenever I tell people that, they're like, oh yeah, I do that, or my mom does that, and I'm like, what? Including the pet food, just regular pet food uh-uh why I don't know I find it horrifying but apparently a lot of people do uh-uh I don't like that it's
Starting point is 00:36:34 just strange I mean I guess what are you learning like your taste is not the same as your dog's taste I don't even know if it's for the taste I mean I don't know because the reaction I was like well I don't even know if it's for the taste. I mean, I don't know. Cause the reaction I always get is like, well, I wouldn't want to give my dog something I wouldn't eat. And I'm like, but that doesn't mean you have to eat it. I don't know. Like, I just don't follow.
Starting point is 00:36:55 You know what I mean? I don't either. Yeah. What the heck? OK, this is blowing my mind. Why are people eating dog food? We did it as children. Yeah, when we were four.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It was not fun. It was nasty. Yeah, that's gross, man. I think that... I don't know. I don't know. I just wouldn't recommend it. Let's just put that out there. I don't... I can't be convinced this is a good idea to do, or like a right, correct thing to do. I don't understand. Yeah, probably not. Anyway, I'll let you continue while this marinates well
Starting point is 00:37:27 like back when i had um um back when i had a uh what are those animals called tomagotchi the dragon ones oh what a bearded back when i had a bearded dragon yeah and i would taste all his crickets before oh no just to make sure because i was like well I've really similar taste to my I remember walking in on you lady and tramp and the tramping a cricket with your bearded dragon Yeah, well, you should have seen when we did an earthworm with my pet bird that I had to yeah You know, I would turn into that person too if I had a pet bird.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'd be like, we share our food. We share our worms. Okay, oh no. This is getting too, oh man. Everyone out there is like, well, in that case, maybe we are on board. Just kidding, I would get banned from TikTok so fast. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Do you have any more? Yeah. Okay. Are you done? I have just, I would get banned from TikTok so fast. Okay. Do you have any more? Yeah. Okay. Are you done? I have just, I just have one redemption. Okay, yeah, I just have one more. Okay, you wanna read it first or? Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:33 It's also from Christine and I believe, oh yeah. Oh no, sorry. This is of Pet Lab Co. Probiotics for dog, support gut health, diarrhea, digestive health, and seasonal allergies, pork flavor. Delicious. One star. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:52 The ninth circle of hell emanated from my dog's behind. My dog has had allergies and a potential autoimmune disease that leaves him red, itchy, and splotchy. It's extremely uncomfortable to watch and I've tried everything, different diets, supplements, fish oil, and even additional baths. However, nothing has seemed to help. I heard good things about this supplement
Starting point is 00:39:13 and thought, well, why not? I'll tell you why not. The smells that came out of my dog after only one day of starting with supplement were so foul, so devastatingly atrocious that we assumed an animal must have died in our vents in our house. Well, that one of the other dogs had retched somewhere we couldn't find. I assumed it must be the latter because there were no gas sounds audibly coming
Starting point is 00:39:36 from my dog. So I took my dog to my boyfriend's house. Sorry. Right? Correct. Like, Let's take him out of this picture, not realizing what's going to happen. Here, can you dog sit for a few hours? When we came home from dinner, the smell that we had just detected in my house was now in his house, and we knew the smells were coming from inside my dog. I had to discontinue use immediately for the sake of my roommate, my boyfriend, and myself. I don't know if these supplements work, but I can tell you they work in generating the most disgusting smell you have ever smelled in your life. In my opinion, there are only three reasons to even attempt this supplement.
Starting point is 00:40:16 One, if your dog lives outside. Two, if you have a ranch and your dog can stay outside most of the time. And or three, if you have anosmia parentheses can't smell other than those reasons skip this one yuck end of review i would argue if you have anosmia and also your friends and anyone visiting yeah there's a lot yeah you gotta have a full crew that can't smell this you gotta test you gotta have people sign something before they come inside you would hope this passes you know i feel like when most things not saying that's worth Getting to the other side, but I assume that it would eventually
Starting point is 00:40:52 Is it weird that my reaction my gut reaction is oh, I guess that means it's working Exercising the smell the smelly demons. Yeah. Yeah part of me is like, oh see it's like having some effect, but I'm't know. It's exercising the smelly demons. Yeah, yeah. Part of me is like, oh, see, it's like having some effect, but I'm like, well, at what cost? Yeah, I feel like there was a lot of that for us growing up where, and I'm sure many people, where you are told, oh, that means it's working. That's, oh, it hurts. When it's not actually true.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It hurts really bad, that means it's working. Yeah, and certain, I don't know, I feel like that's a common thing for different MLM type things, like the hair products. Oh, big time. That say, oh, your hair's falling out. Oh, your hair's falling out, that means it's working. That means it's working.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It's because there's new follicles growing. It's like, what? Yeah, yeah, they kinda. Some of them do the lips. Side step all the side effects that are negative. People post a photo of full on chemical burns and they're like, that just means the product is working. they kind of side step all the side effects that are negative. People post a photo of full on chemical burns and they're like, that just means the product is working.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And it's like, yeah, it's peeling off the old skin and it's going to be a fresh set of lips soon to burn my face. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, wow. Powerful stuff. I have a review of a whole new product. This is called Mare Moods Powder Horse Supplement. No. This is not a joke. This is a supplement. This is MyDoll for horses.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Do you know what MyDoll is? Yeah, of course, for periods. Yeah, this is for horse periods. Fascinating. Yes, for horse periods. Fascinating. I know. I've just, it's like, I've seen it all now.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I feel like I've seen it all. I've heard it all now. I feel like I've seen it all I've heard it all now That's wild to me. Yeah, it is and apparently it works pretty damn well So this is a five-star view. It's I think it's on Chewie's website and the reviewers name is Big Mare Energy and The title of the review is helps every day and the title of the review is helps every day. My mare's heat cycle is very hard on her. Sore back, don't touch me or look at me. You know what I'm talking about. When you kept saying mare, I was thinking M-A-Y-O-R.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And now I'm realizing it's M-A-R-E. Like a horse, of course. A horse, of course. As we have been discussing, but still even the first time when you said mayor, my mind went to M-A-Y-O-R and I thought that was a weird brand name. Mayor Mayor's. And I was picturing maybe a horse with a top hat or something. Mayor Mayor's Mayor moods powder.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I mean, it could be it feels like another miracle mana situation But I'll think about it My mayor's heat cycle is very hard on her sore back. Don't touch me or look at me You know what I'm talking about lol I started her on mayor moods two days before her cycle started and kept her on it two days after I Honestly didn't see much difference the first time, but the second was much better and I had a much more comfortable mare.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I'm in her third cycle and I can ride her, love on her. If she's having back pain, I just apply heat and massage and lots of in-hand walking. I just wish they made this for humans. LOL, end of review. I think they do, no? I mean, they do. There is my doll, but I will say also,
Starting point is 00:44:07 I mean, don't take my word on this. In fact, I would do the opposite of what I'm about to say, but they have horse and mane shampoo that they sell for, and that I used for years for my hair. And so why not use that same logic and just try a little bit of this for- Same with ivermectin for covid right yourself Uh, was that a horse drug too? Yeah, I believe so
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, try both see if any see if any of them work I feel like you need to fully retract the last 20 seconds if it really really hurts. That means it's working If your covid gets worse that means it's working that means it means it's working. It just has to get through your whole body. Yeah. We, we should retract literally all of that before. I mean, obviously. Yeah. So don't fucking do what I said. In fact, before I said it, I said, do the opposite of what I'm about to say, which is take horse medicine. But yeah. And as you're saying this, I think, well, yeah, there was actually people suggesting that back not too long ago.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, no, you're right. It was a little too close to reality. The joke ended up being a little too on the nose because people actually did advise that behavior. So yeah, just to clarify. That's wild though. The domestication of animals is fascinating and not always in the best way. The fact that you can give your horse this medication for their period, I'm kind of blown away by this.
Starting point is 00:45:36 It just seems so interesting. Sorry in advance, horse semen, like vitamins to like make your horse, for breeding purposes. And I was like, well, it's finally time they give some women horses some medicine. So true. You know what I mean? Maybe you should elaborate before I say yes,
Starting point is 00:46:02 I know what you mean. I just mean like a lot of the stuff was about like horses procreating and I'm like, well, I imagine there's a lot of those products. So you know what, make one for horse periods, help them have a less like painful period or whatever it's called. But the thing is I'm like, oh, back pain. Oh, sometimes when my horse gets back pain, I'm like, I wonder why your horse gets back pain.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It might be because you're riding on top of it. No, Alexander, it's because it's on its period. Oh, it's just the period? Okay. Well, obviously, if it goes away. Obviously, true, true. Okay, sure. I think you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I've never claimed to. This is my challenge. It was from Gregory and it was to find reviews mentioning an eating challenge. I have quite a few here. Some really fun ones. Some of them I just liked the actual challenge. I'm trying to think of any. I mean, I just, I feel like most of the ones I know from man man versus food That yeah, were you potentially thinking probably not but that that steakhouse we went to where they did like guyfury thing No, but I was just thinking that that was in Oklahoma, right? I forget which city though City, I don't know. It wasn't weirdly. I had a review
Starting point is 00:47:23 Someone sent an interview from a steakhouse and I was like, is that the place we went but it ended up not being I don't know. It wasn't weirdly, I had a review, someone sent in a review from a steakhouse and I was like, is that the place we went? But it ended up not being, I don't think. But yeah, so. Yeah, no, I wasn't thinking, I wasn't thinking about that recently. Cause yeah, I was talking about Oklahoma with Dee and her friends. I think about it all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But. Do you have any idea what food it was that was in the future? No, no. I'm still, I'm still, well, no, yeah, I don't know if it was from the show or from our lives. Like, I feel there was some weird connection. There probably isn't.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I don't know. There probably is at least one that we don't remember. Because I don't, can't think of any in Cincinnati. I'm trying to think if there's any that I knew were in LA. I'm sure there are plenty in LA, but I don't remember any places that we would go to that even had something like this. I feel like it's so niche and kind of rare to find,
Starting point is 00:48:11 or maybe it's just the places that I go to, especially now, because I feel like most of them aren't vegan. Part of me feels like, well, definitely not, but part of me feels like it was more of like a 2000s phenomenon. Like when these TV shit, when everyone was like, whoa, Man vs. Food, look how much you can eat. And I feel like that has kind of fallen out of vogue a little bit. Yeah. Which is probably for the best. Probably. Especially after reading all
Starting point is 00:48:34 these reviews and being like, I think you need some avian missing link bird supplement or something. Cause you really F'ed up your whole body. Yeah.'s like- Take a cat probiotic. There's a place, Heart Attack Grill, I believe, have you heard of that? And they weigh people, and I think- Oh, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you weigh a certain amount, you get a discount. It's, or you get, you eat for free. It's very specific.
Starting point is 00:48:58 You pay depending on your weight or perhaps. There was a lot of weirdness, and some, it's very controversial, I think, for very good reasons. But yeah, anyway. I can't think of any, but I'm sure there are. Yeah, I think people have literally had heart attacks. Yeah, well that seems like what it's there for, but yeah, anyway, this is a review
Starting point is 00:49:23 of a place called Humpey's, hold on. Sorry. You can just say Humpey's. Because I saw you drinking water and I realized way too late, like, uh-oh, I need to wait for him to. Worse, it's coffee.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Oh no, okay, this was sent in by Candy She Her and it is of Humpey's Kodiak Arrest Food Challenge. This is Kodiak, Alaska? Like where? Yeah, I believe it's in Kodiak Arrest Food Challenge. This is Kodiak, Alaska? Like where? Yeah, I believe it's in Kodiak. Or it's in Anchorage, sorry. But yeah, so Humpe's Great, this is Humpe's Great Alaskan Ale House in Anchorage, Alaska.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And the actual food challenge is called Humpe's Kodiak Arrest Food Challenge. Oh my gosh. And like, I love a good pun. That's a little bit, ooh, but here, I'll read the little instructions. By the way, Candy was so nice and made like a whole graphic for me, like circling, like writing the name of the challenge, circling like the description,
Starting point is 00:50:15 putting the review, anyway. So I have this whole little guide for me. Humpies challenges you to eat. Oh wait Let me let me actually read the description if you can put away all this food in 60 minutes or less Without leaving the table you win a spot in our winners Hall of Fame and and I got crabs at Humpies t-shirt. Oh Do you get so a Hall of Fame and a t-shirt and a t-shirt that says I got crabs at Humphrey's t-shirt that you most likely Won't wear that much. Well, I guess if you're doing this challenge
Starting point is 00:50:50 You probably would be you'd have to wear your partner whoever you are with would be like you have to wear it every day as part of your punishment but also I feel like maybe you can buy that shirt so it does feel a little bit like I Mean I love it listen, I love a shirt especially like... I mean I love it. Listen, I love a shirt. Especially like as a prize. I'm not gonna lie. But then you have to tell people you paid for it. So yeah, if you want it, at least you say, yeah, I want it. You can say, I want it. Yeah, true. So this is the amount of food you're meant to eat.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Humpies challenges you to eat seven crab nuggets, 14 inches of reindeer sausage? 14 inches? Why 14? It's just so bad, I don't know. I just can't stand it. 14 inches, why would you even frame it like that? Oh my God, it's so gross. 14 inches of reindeer sausage, four pounds of Alaskan king crab,
Starting point is 00:51:43 side dishes, that's vague, our famous wild berry crisp, and ice cream. Now, there's a price for this. Like you have to pay to participate. Do you pay and then if you win you don't pay, is that right? I don't think so because the instructions very clearly state you get a spot in our winner's hall of fame and an I got crabs at Humphies t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And doesn't mention it being free. Certainly doesn't mention comping the meal. I'd like you to guess for seven crab nuggets, 14 inches of reindeer sausage, four pounds of Alaskan hand grab, side dishes, famous wild berry crisps, and ice cream, how much you think they charge? Look I don't know anything about pricing in Alaska. Because in my mind I think oh you get four pounds of crab, but they probably just they it's probably more abundant there.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'd imagine all of these foods, four pounds. They're just drowning in reindeer sausage. That's why I scream in the reindeer sausage. I don't know, like 50 bucks. That seems low, but maybe I don't know. The total price comes to three hundred and sixty five dollars. I'm sorry. Now I feel stupid, but I'm like maybe I don't know. The total price comes to $365. I'm sorry now I feel stupid but I'm like I can't imagine spending that much money. That's why I made you guess because it's shocking and I knew you wouldn't get anywhere close because what? $365? $365 and I
Starting point is 00:52:59 thought maybe I misread that but this is part of the reviews complaint. So I will read you this review. It's one star from TripAdvisor. And it- You can enjoy so many meals for that much money and you don't have to be miserable for one. But you get a free t-shirt at the end. It's free. That doesn't, hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You only paid $365 and many hospital bills for it. Oh dear god. Here's a review. It's one star called No Thanks. Wasted Trip Manager refused to honor the price of $250 currently being advertised on their official website for the Kodiak Arrest Challenge. They did not redress the price discrepancy, said the price is now $365, which was also
Starting point is 00:53:46 on the website. This price was reportedly changed two years ago. One manager confirmed they do have all the ingredients. The other manager stated, well, we can just say it is not available, upon being confronted about it not being good to falsely advertise. While this may have started as an honest mistake, pretending to not have the ingredients is not honest. I would have honored the advertised price as a showing of good faith. That showing of good faith would have been returned by me paying at least the
Starting point is 00:54:14 difference in gratuity. End of review. The business doesn't care about the gratuity. I'm going to be honest here. Like I love how it's like, I'm gonna punish the server for businesses on the inability to update a website. Yeah, and the server is like, I can't just give you $115 off. It's not my purview to do that. And claiming that you would do it if you ran the business.
Starting point is 00:54:38 If you're, first of all, if you're saying I won't pay that much, I would only pay $250 for this ridiculous challenge. No, you wouldn't honor that, there's no fucking way. If you're freaking out about this price difference and also, what, no. Yeah, when people say things like, oh, this is a matter of principle,
Starting point is 00:54:59 it's like, I don't think so in this regard. This is not how you run a business. Why do you care so much about the principle of the 14 inches of reindeer sausage? This isn't the time to die on a hill for principles. And especially acknowledging it started as an honest mistake. And I feel like that didn't change. The fact that it was an honest mistake
Starting point is 00:55:20 didn't change just because they said, well, then we'll just not give it to you. Yeah, they're being honest. Because you are being difficult about are being... And by the way, they are being honest. They're saying we can pretend we don't have the food and then... but we do. That's pretty... actually that's more honest than most things someone would say in that situation. Like, oh no, we're out. That's a lie. But saying we could just tell you we're out. That's not even dishonest. It's actually pretty straightforward.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I don't know, updating websites, I haven't updated our website for all the tour dates that are over. I mean, some of them I have. This is a good reminder I gotta do this. But you updated the price of the eating challenge, right? Oh, fuck. Alexander, we're losing so much money.
Starting point is 00:56:01 We tripled the price. We tripled the price. Oh no. All thosepled the price. Oh no Although long John Donuts Yeah TBD on the name of it I haven't slept in three days so today is not the day for me to come up with a funny pun Let's see. I have another one here. This was sent in also by candy she her and it's of a Quaker steak and lube in Bloomsburg PA have you ever been to one I have not me neither I think I asked you that recently when we were driving I don't think so maybe oh
Starting point is 00:56:35 no I asked blaze blaze tonight I talked about it it seems to be the question that gets asked anytime people drive past one like you ever been in the West now me neither yeah I've had that conversation at least twice. I've had that with Dee and I don't think she has either because her family would sometimes go to like Pennsylvania for like vacations and stuff. Yeah. Well, do you know what the lube refers to because candy apparently figured it out. I forgot. I think I did know at some point I could be wrong. Do you have a guess? Is it like they have malts or something? Is it like a drink? No, I don't know Or did they used to have it's oh, it's a sauce. Okay sauces. Yeah
Starting point is 00:57:10 And uh, so this challenge is called the quaker steak and lube uh registered trademark Apostrophe s eat heat challenge And it says tough enough to eat heat And it has a hazmat suit logo not great considering this was you know this is I think a current I don't know if it's a current challenge but it's still not not great and it says buck up buttercup it's time to eat heat. Feeling tough? Try Six Wings with our hottest sauce yet,
Starting point is 00:57:47 made from scorpion pepper venom and concentrated capsaicin sweetened just slightly with juicy wild berries, waiver required. They know their audience or they know their participants. It's so funny. This, I am, my whole body is rejecting every word you're saying because it sounds so aggressive and so unnecessarily, it sounds like it's challenging my masculinity. I wonder, this does feel again, like 2010 vibes. Oh, and this review actually was written in 2012,
Starting point is 00:58:23 so maybe this, maybe they've matured, but you know, what do I know? This is a review from TripAdvisor. It's three stars and the title is, Cool Looking Place Food Was Okay. I Did the Triple Atomic Wing Challenge. Those wings were pretty hot, but didn't taste that good. Wow, that by the way hilarious
Starting point is 00:58:48 If they tasted absolutely incredible that would be Shocking to me. Yeah, I was gonna say this is the least surprising They're not going for tasty in this one. What can you even take a promotion? What can you take scorpion venom? Yeah, yum The what juicy wild berries berries I don't know those wings were pretty hot but didn't taste that good awesome decorations two real vintage Corvettes hanging from the walls and a NASCAR stock car hanging from the ceiling with a TV and its windshield I've been there I don't need to go back. End of review. Like I said, they know, they know they're participants. A NASCAR like that sounds like a satire,
Starting point is 00:59:32 a NASCAR car hanging from the ceiling with a TV built into the front, like pimp my ride style. But for a qu- restaurant, a side of the road restaurant. I used to do my homework in DC at a place, I think it was called Fuel Pizza, and their whole vibe was vintage gas station. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This, yeah, and that and this,
Starting point is 00:59:54 with the kind of hard rock cafe vibes, it also feels very 2010. Like, oh, you know when bacon was a big thing, and it was like, oh, man caves. Itchy remembers. Oh, you know when bacon was like a big thing. Oh, yeah, oh man caves like itchy itchy remembers itchy remembers from 38 years ago No, I I Feel like all of that just completely fit the exact same vibe. Yeah. Yeah, I honestly love that place, but probably because
Starting point is 01:00:22 It was an escape fuel. Yeah, I'd just go in there and go upstairs and sit with my homework, order pizza, get a drink and just refill over and over and over and over again and have way too much caffeine. But yeah, no, it was a fake taste of Ohio in the hustle and bustle of DC. It was, it was definitely wasn't like Ohio at all tired of Capitol Hill Like when you live where all the like down there where I was near the mall and stuff
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Starting point is 01:02:05 Just go to hungryroot.com slash beach to get 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to hungryroot.com slash beach to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That's hungryroot.com slash beach. Don't forget to use our link so they know we sent you. Here's a review. This was sent in by Brad, he, him, and guess what, Alexander? Brad did this challenge that we're about to read to you. Oh my gosh. Let's judge him. I can't wait. Brad says he's done two before and this particular one, he said, I'm pretty sure it was this
Starting point is 01:02:37 one. He said his fiance still hasn't forgiven him for like ruining the day by doing this challenge, but he said he got a t-shirt and he still wears it all the time. So clearly that- Brad's got crabs from somewhere. Brad got crabs. No wonder his fiance was upset. He ruined the day with the crabs. Brad got crabs? Well, he said, my then girlfriend and now fiance. So clearly he did something right.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Okay. In spite of the crabs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Poor Brad did not. No, he knew what of the crabs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Poor Brad did not know. He knew what he was signing up for with sending this in. This is Rudy's steakhouse and it is a one star review. My wife and I came in to celebrate on our wedding night. But yes, this is Brad's plan.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah. Brad was like, honestly, this has all been just a long con. And I feel like his fiance is going to hear this and go, wait, isn't this place right by the venue we chose? Look, look, I will become a minister or whatever if Brad and his fiance get married at this place. And do? Oh my god. And ask me to do it, I would do it.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I would go and marry them, but only if it's at this place. At a steakhouse no less. At Rudy's steakhouse. Yeah, of all places. That means Alexander's not fucking around. Okay, okay, take that back, because I am, please. Oh, okay, well I'll do it then. No, I would not do this. Oh, I would do it then. No, I would not do this.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Oh, I would do it. I would not do this to Brad or his poor fiance. I'll do it. My wife and I came in to celebrate on our wedding night. With it being a big occasion, we wanted to go somewhere nice. The restaurant was nice, pretty environment, the food was amazing. However, the service was terrible. I ordered the tomahawk challenge
Starting point is 01:04:27 but was never told how long it takes to cook my wife chose to eat with me so after a crazy day of people and getting married you know this is the fact this is a guy it was a crazy day there were people there was marriage and then we went here and ordered without any plan. Like this just happened? This just happened. This just happened. My wife chose to eat with me, so after a crazy day of people and getting married,
Starting point is 01:04:54 we were starving. They gave us our salads and asked for drinks. Then not one person checked on us for over one hour. My wife had to flag down a different waiter to get a drink then finally our food came out. I finished the challenge, but the staff couldn't figure out the keys to get to the shirts gifted to folks that complete the tomahawk challenge. We were at the restaurant for over two hours. It took us about 30 minutes to eat. We were waiting on our food and staff
Starting point is 01:05:21 the rest of the time. Service was ridiculous and it wasn't even busy. When I went back to get my shirt and make a complaint, the lady I talked to told me to email management of the restaurant. I emailed and not even a response was sent back. I'm disappointed in this restaurant because I've heard nothing but good things. I will never be returning
Starting point is 01:05:39 and I will tell everyone I know not to go as well. Everyone's gonna go, "'Yeah, well you went on your wedding night. We would have told you not to go as well. Everyone's gonna go, yeah, well you went on your wedding night, we would have told you not to go too. I'm shocked. For a food challenge on the night of your wedding. I mean, listen, I don't care one way or another, but I guess my thought is you shouldn't be super surprised
Starting point is 01:05:58 if you order this crazy challenge meal and it holds up the timing of your dinner. You know? Yeah. Do we know what is the challenge? Did you say that? I did not. Rudy's steakhouse eating challenge.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And you know, I wonder if that was intentional on Brad's part. You know, just like, to just like not even go there. You know? Did you see a separate email from Brad's fiance like, hey, I assume that he didn't tell you the challenge. He's not gonna give you all the details so you can fully judge.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Okay, yeah, Zany's for sure not gonna be hosting your wedding here. It's called One Person, One Colossal Steak, One Hour. Can you conquer the king of all steaks? You have one hour to finish your salad, asparagus, starch, and Rudy's three pound tomahawk. The time starts as soon as your dinner hits the table. Those brave enough to attempt the challenge get one of our signature tomahawk teas.
Starting point is 01:06:55 If you are one of the few that conquer the tomahawk challenge, you will receive one of our exclusive conquered carnivores t-shirts. No wonder Brad didn't tell you. He's like, Alexander's going gonna open this email and be like Conquered so Brad's shirt says conquered carnivore I think so so he was a carnivore who was conquered Yeah, that doesn't make sense because Brad doesn't make sense if you attempt it you get a tomahawk t-shirt if you actually Accomplished the challenge you get a conquered carnivores
Starting point is 01:07:29 Tea, whatever that is. I don't know. I will oh shit shit. I just opened a video. Okay. I didn't Yeah, Brad included a video No, it's fiance again like think twice I just need to tell you the graphics on this website are so funny. It says there is only one Tomahawk King and then they have this bizarre fancy logo situation with a crown photoshopped on it onto a steak and then it says the reigning king and the reigning queen.
Starting point is 01:08:03 It says the reigning king and the reigning queen. Wow, so they have, wow, reigning, oh, so this is like a famous person. What are you talking about? What is going on? None of these things are clicking in my head. Okay, we have the reigning king and queen of the Tomahawk Challenge. Of the Tomahawk Challenge, a three pound steak
Starting point is 01:08:24 with salad and starch and whatever. Yeah, and so the reigning queen is a woman named Raina Our a INA Wong and it says Raina is crazy is a professional eater That's her username who destroyed the record for the fastest conquered tomahawk So she's apparently like a big Influencer but like has a presence on social media and one of like a professional eater. Right, yes that that's like what she does. And then Max Carnage was the previous Tomahawk King. Oh we ate it in eight minutes and one second. Oh, no. That makes me wanna vomit.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Eight minutes? You shouldn't put that in your body so fast, no matter what it is. Wow. Anyway. Wow. Oh yeah, the shirt says conquered carnivores. Huh.
Starting point is 01:09:20 That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that just makes it seem like you were conquered and you are a carnivore, no? Yeah. Two embarrassing things. Oh, got him. OK. Got him.
Starting point is 01:09:32 OK, let's see. What else? It should say conquered vegans, like I conquered. You know what I mean? No, because it's saying, like, I'm a carnivore, but I've been conquered. Yeah, I know. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:47 We'll email it. We'll email them. It should say carnivore conqueror. Yeah, we'll figure it out. This is a review by, or sent in by Zyla, they them. It's a one star review of Selena's Bar and Grill. And I guess, I mean, you'll realize really quickly why this place was suddenly inundated with one star reviews like just slammed with them. Here's a review from April 23rd 2023. The owner is
Starting point is 01:10:13 very rude, loud, and disrespectful. He doesn't keep nor honor his own word. Do not give this man business. He's not honest and doesn't deserve to have support from the community. Let his business crash. There's a young man on TikTok by the name of mo motion who completed a food challenge in four minutes and 10 seconds. The owner talked very disrespectful to this young man and didn't pay him for completing the challenge. Very weird. May he have the life he deserves. End of review. May he have the life he deserves. End of review. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:44 And then all of the not recommended were like, my boy on TikTok didn't get his challenge or whatever. So I don't know what happened. I obviously didn't go watch the video, but this is apparently a famous TikToker and people swamped the business with one star views when he didn't succeed or when he was cheated out of his victory who knows this is always such a like double-edged
Starting point is 01:11:10 sword because there's so many stories of this happening and then it turns out the reviewer was lying or was exaggerating or leaving out like very important bits to the story but exactly if you have a following you know you're gonna have people who are backing you up no matter what. That's it. And I didn't even watch the video because I'm like, I don't know if I would even get, get the story of what happened. But, um, anyway, there's that not to even, I don't know, maybe this business fucking sucks.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I genuinely don't know. So I'm like, not going to make a judgment call on that. But, um, cause I find myself watching these Tik TOKs and So I'm like not gonna make a judgment call on that, but. Cause I find myself watching these TikToks and sometimes I'm like, man, I'm so angry. And then I think, okay, gotta like calm down and understand that there's maybe a little more to this video that I got that got to me that has zero, that's usually like someone commenting on it
Starting point is 01:12:03 based on something that they had heard, based on something that they had heard and it just goes down Yeah, it's not necessarily the most reliable source You got to be careful out there. I know that that's like a really hot take. It's so hot. Yeah So don't cancel us over that. That's why that's why we stumble over everything we say and Backtrack everything because we know the power that you all hold as our listeners and we could Sick you on any anyone we're terrified. It's what we're really saying Yeah, and so should all the businesses we talk about they should all be terrified of you
Starting point is 01:12:36 So here's a review of a place called Casper's and Runyon's nook in st. Paul, Minnesota This was set in by Ali she, she her, and it's of Eric's Hot Wing Challenge. Or I guess it's Eric's Hot Wing Challenge. See, this is what I do. I emphasize the wrong word. Eric's Hot Wing Challenge. Eric's Hot Wing Challenge. Not Eric's, not Rick's, Eric's. And Allie said that she originally was just going to include it because it has the faint of heart.
Starting point is 01:13:10 It also accomplishes the faint of heart challenge. Which I do, I could see how that would be kind of an easy crossover there with the food challenges. So here we go. This is a four star review by Eric and I consider it negative even though it's a 4 star review but I guess Zandy you can help me decide. Juicy Lucy's are delicious, fries amazing, hot wing challenge are hot and delicious and not for the faint of heart.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I'd have given this a 5 star just for the food alone but after my hot wing challenge the waitress was so rude. She didn't care about my pain or my seizures, and she tried to send me away without a victory t-shirt. I'm sorry. What? Did this challenge give you a seizure, or are you exaggerating?
Starting point is 01:13:57 I'm like really concerned. I don't know. I don't know, but it sounds dangerous. Yeah, yeah. This is one of those where I take it with a huge grain of salt. She didn't care about my pain or seizures. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:17 What do you mean? Like, were you just telling her about past seizures you had? Right, good point. Or were you there? Or were you actively in medical crisis? Oh no. Didn't care about my pain or seizures and tried to send me away without a victory shirt. Then when I asked she gave me a plain white t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Then I asked about the challenge t-shirt I was supposed to win and she said they don't have any. So I suffered with no proof of my suffering The waitress was well about as low as a toilet in Ethiopia If it wasn't for her I'd have given this place five stars the hot wings were delicious and the hottest I've ever had End of review. The fuck did Ethiopia come in that was random Yeah, I think he was just he's been trying to like he heard that somewhere like Joe Rogan's podcast I know I want to say that in my day-to-day life. So yeah Wow, we I
Starting point is 01:15:13 Do think this person deserves a t-shirt that well did they finish it or not? I don't know it sounds like they just had a seizure. Yeah, and they couldn't get through it, which look if, if you, if you, in order to avoid any potential backlash, I would just give them a fucking sh- Also that. Like as they're getting loaded into the ambulance, like tossing a sh- t-shirt. She said they don't have any.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Which makes no sense, because then why are they offering the challenge? What's the point of the sh-? What is the chat? Do's the point of the challenge? What is the challenge? Do we know what the challenge is? I mean, I think it's just to eat a bunch of hot wings. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Because it just said they're really hot, and he had a secret. But this is Eric's hot wing challenge, it's specific. Yeah, but you know what's so weird is the reviewer has named Eric, so now I'm wondering if maybe Ali just named it Eric's hot Wind Challenge and I just misunderstood that that was the, could very well be, or otherwise it's kind of a crazy coincidence.
Starting point is 01:16:11 It would be hilarious if this guy just shows up to this business and says, I wanna do my challenge. And they're like, what? Give me my shirt, I've completed Eric's. Wait, yeah, what if it's- And they're like, who's Eric? I'm Eric, I did the challenge. What do you mean who's Eric? I'm Eric. I did the challenge. What do you mean, who's Eric?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Oh my god, you're so right. Let's see, they have something called a Bragg board. Oh, okay. Oh, guys on the Bragg board. All right, let me see. Casper's and it's like kind of a dive bar, but their website doesn't have the challenge on it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Well, yeah, after this, you think they could keep doing it? I guess not. Yeah, they are not advertising that anywhere. So either this guy invented this challenge or like maybe they didn't, they like, they used to do it and they were like, yeah sell those shirts anymore I don't know probably oh boy, but um, I cannot find it on the website. So weird or even anywhere in their social media or anything so
Starting point is 01:17:16 Fascinating. Okay. So yeah, maybe Eric just came up with his own challenge I mean, which and then was upset when they were like, here's a plain white t-shirt We found right like I took it off one of the line cooks oh my gosh, I Can't I can't understand I do wonder they have something called why no Wednesdays, so that's nice. Huh interesting But yeah, I'm seeing nothing about this. They might have... Fascinating. You're right. That might have been the end.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Oh, wait. Is it also known as the Nook? Yeah. Okay. Then they do have challenges. According to this website, hold on, Hot Damn Wing Challenge, this is on visitstpaul.com. I'm trying to find... I don't see like a year, so I don't know if this is like...
Starting point is 01:18:04 This might be an old article, but at the Nook, they have two, the double Nookie Supreme Burger Challenge. Oh, you see that? And then the Hot Damn Wink Challenge. And it says it involves eating 14 wings doused in habanero pepper sauce in 20 minutes with no drink or dipping sauce.
Starting point is 01:18:24 14 wings. Prize is a t-shirt and a wet nap. Stop, and a wet nap, that's very funny. And then for the burger challenge, the prize is just a t-shirt. So yeah, maybe they don't do it anymore? No, I'm looking at their current menu and they have the burger challenge,
Starting point is 01:18:41 but not the wing challenge. Oh, not the wing one? Which, look, the spicy food thing. Okay, wait, is the wing challenge, it's not called Eric's wing challenge. Which look the spicy food thing. Okay wait is that is the wing challenge it's not called Eric's wing challenge? No. Okay so this wasn't just Ali saying it's it's Eric's specifically wing challenge sorry. Yeah yeah. Sorry Ali um I was like wow that's crazy. Yeah it says eat two nookie Supremes which is the burger and fries and win a free t-shirt. Yeah
Starting point is 01:19:06 Okay, fascinating fascinating the whole world It's like we've had some wild worlds of the pet supplements that and then the food challenge world. Oh I forgot about that. How could I have I'm so sorry horses Stephanie sent in this review Stephanie Thank you. It is from cruisecritic.com. Huh, weird. Interesting how that just happens. Just happened.
Starting point is 01:19:32 It's called Carnival Excel Class Culinary Challenge. Don't ask me to explain it. This is a review by Dave who was a cool cruiser, who, you know when it says rare and we never quite figured out what that means it says rare But his photo is a picture of a fluffy black cat with an eye voted sticker So I'm all about it. Maybe it's the way that they he likes his burger challenge or they oh, yeah Yeah, when it's for their challenge, you know Yeah, yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:20:02 All right. This is what Dave has to say he started this uh forum I'm sorry he started this post this thread in the forum I challenge all future excel class cruisers to the carnival excel class culinary challenge and then in bold the CECC challenge in seven days you have to eat, finish, and provide photos of Dinner at Emeril's, Guy's P&A, Rudy's Seafood, Cucina de Capitano, Banzai Teppanyaki, and the Steakhouse restaurants along with MDR, maybe Lobster Night. Then for midday slash lunch, you have Guy's Burgers, Guy's P&A lunch, Seafood Shack, Shaq's Chicken, Blue Iguana, and Lido. Snacks and Handeats you
Starting point is 01:20:50 have Street Eats, Kebabs or whatever, Bao Buns, and Fancy French Fries. You have the Fancy Cake service on Lido you have to find too. Breakfast you need a Sea Day brunch you have to fit in and some coffee and a day dish from Java Blue. And for good measure one gummy bear from the candy shop and we'll need a photo of the chosen victim bear. Miss anything? Room service? Shall we create a specific order and rules to the Carnival Excel Class Culinary Challenge? CECC Challenge? I go on celebration January 29th. I will make my attempt at that time but keep in mind I am a skinny guy. End of review. And he was never heard from again I know although his last cruise
Starting point is 01:21:29 I I i'm sorry That got way out of hand way too confused The point of one of these challenges is like eat as many french fries as many wings as you can like it's make yourself hurt This was just this feels more like a scavenger hunt It does yes, which is fun, which is fun in its own right. A painful scavenger hunt though, to force you to eat all of it. This feels like some sort of... What is this? Carnival cruise? What cruise line, Princess? Carnival? Yeah. This is some executive who says, you know, these people aren't eating at our restaurants enough. I know. Our restaurants are saying they're not getting enough business.
Starting point is 01:22:05 How do we drum up business? But aren't they all like included or maybe not always? I don't, I don't know. I don't think the restaurants are fully, I don't think it's food, food and alcohol, I don't think is always included. Maybe there's certain meals or certain like buffets or something. Maybe they have certain places, but think that buffets are more- But I imagine not all of these, especially steak houses, I can't imagine that you're
Starting point is 01:22:29 gonna get free food there. I don't know though. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah. Only one person responded, I think. Maybe you get a meal credit or something, like a voucher for a day or a certain amount of money. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Anyway, one person did respond though. So actually a few people responded and they were just like, they actually they were like, what about this place? What about this place? And so then it's got even more convoluted. And then they were like, we'll have to and then the original poster Dave was like, oh, we'll have to come up with a prize, maybe a fun meme. And I was like, all that for a meme? I don't think this person knows what a prize maybe a fun meme and I was like all that for a meme? I don't think this person knows what a prize or a meme is. Okay fair point but why not just a classic a t-shirt? You think that okay and then what what's yeah it's got to be something virtual and NFT perfect let's do that. That's basically a meme. I'm sure he
Starting point is 01:23:22 doesn't know what a meme is so I'm sure he'll know what an NFT is though. Yeah This is my last one. It's a four-star review. So it's a redemption and it's of a place called wassifa's cafe This was sent in by Stephanie and the title is the burger I inspired four stars Sorry, that's You know, this could be either you had some terrible experience and they were like, oh, I don't know if it's food challenge related. Sorry, I'll just let you go. A small background of my experience.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I won Wasifa's challenge on Facebook to build my ideal burger. And well, unfortunately I never got direct communication, only discovered it while pre preeing preeing their page yesterday what's preeing what is it how does it's a PR what EE ing I have no idea okay all right but they meant peeping no I don't know that's what I was gonna change it to those like that's weird and well unfortunately never got direct communication only discovered it while scrolling their page yesterday a year later and
Starting point is 01:24:26 Coincidentally had planned to go and have that same burger at the restaurant I felt so proud though seeing it right there on the menu. My competition entry was quote to my burger I would add another beef patty, grilled tomato slices, butter caramelized onions, English cucumber slices skin on, slices, butter caramelized onions, English cucumber slices, skin on, gherkins, a slice of cheddar cheese, lettuce, rocket, and for the sauces, sweet chili, garlic, and chipotle mayonnaise and a tad bit of mustard for the tang. Would not mind a few fries and onion rings on the side, smiley face." End quote. That's too much lube. And there it was. You over lubed it.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Over lubed. How many lubes were there? Like three? Four? Jesus. And there it was on the menu. Well, not entirely. My burger had two juicy, tasty patties, fresh iceberg lettuce, a slice of tomato. Okay, so this is already just a normal burger. Yeah, nothing has been out of the ordinary. Caramelized onion, okay, sure. A fried egg, that was not on his, right? No, not that I heard. A fried egg and melted cheese. Finger-licking good sauces, does not specify they were the same.
Starting point is 01:25:40 And crunchy onion rings with fries on the side. I don't think that's the same burger. I know that's not the same burger. Okay. They're not even, there's no cucumbers or gherkins. Like the weird stuff is not there, the weird stuff you suggested. Yeah, like that sounds like a burger
Starting point is 01:25:56 you'd normally get somewhere. Exactly, with a fry dang on it. Like that's the only like kind of quirky thing about this other burger. But you see that all the time in burgers I know yeah, that's not even that strange Okay, yeah, that's very weird I have to say the portion was generous and to wash it down their delicious world-famous coffee in the form of a mocha
Starting point is 01:26:17 I loved every crumb the waitstaff was pleasant and attentive. Well. Yeah, you were probably like I made this burger and they were like Pleasant and attentive. Well yeah, you were probably like, I made this burger and they were like, what? We've had this on here for years. It's always been on the menu. The ambiance was perfect and peaceful. Ooh, I got free coffee voucher and I cannot wait to go back and have it
Starting point is 01:26:33 with their red velvet cake made from scratch. No pre mixes. End of review. Oh, okay. I mean, I'm glad they think that they got it. Yeah, I'm confused. So they were like, hey, they didn't notify me that my burger was on here, but I found it.
Starting point is 01:26:46 But it's on the menu, something special, right? Like after them or anything, right? No, no. I'm so confused. So this person- But they also said they saw it on Facebook that they had won, but I'm like, are you sure? Maybe they said, now serving this new burger.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And this person was like, that's my burger that I created, but it wasn't at all. We got the quote. Yeah, wait, why would they? Like they put iceberg lettuce instead of arugula. That already is like a complete difference. And what was something about a rocket? Rocket is arugula. Oh, I forgot that.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I was like, where did that come from? No, rocket is arugula. And so they put iceberg, like the restaurant has iceberg lettuce on it. And they wanted certain type of tomatoes, no? Not just... Oh, grilled tomatoes. That was not... This one said fresh tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:27:37 They also said... It's completely different. I'm so... Butter caramelized onions, which that is the same. I don't know about the butter caramelized, but caramelized. Caramelized onion, which isn't very normal. I'm assuming it's butter. I feel like you get those at like five guys.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Which is not that strange that they would have it, right? So they had also asked for English cucumber slices, skin on, none of that, gherkins, none of that. A slice of cheddar cheese, which they just said it had cheese. A slice of cheese. Also not weird. Lettuce, oh they did say lettuce, rocket. Well I had to put lettuce and arugula.
Starting point is 01:28:07 This is just too much. And for the sauces sweet chili garlic and chipotle mayonnaise and a bit of mustard. Wow. At least they said well not entirely. I'm yeah. Like not at all really. They added, they took off almost everything you asked for and added a fried egg. I feel like it's so harmless this review. Like I don't want to be mean about it. I don't want to tear them apart. at all really. They added, they took off almost everything you asked for and added a fried egg. I feel like it's so harmless, this review. Like I don't want to be mean about it. I'm just so, so surprised that this person is taking credit for this burger. Do you know what it's like? It's like Mike Wazowski seeing himself covered up on TV and
Starting point is 01:28:39 everyone looks at him nervously and then he turns around and goes, I'm on TV. And they're like, few, let's not even show him the downside. So yeah, I hope that they still tell people that story. Did you know, I know this now it's gonna sound fake, but I actually did. I won second place in a burger, make your own burger competition.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And mine had. Who the fuck was judging that? It was some restaurant in New York City and in New York City. Yeah, blaze. And I went there. We ate dinner. This was like in 2013. They had like a thing on the table, like enter our contest.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And I was like, OK. And so I entered the contest and I won second place. What did that get you? A web map got me nothing. I think I got posted on Facebook. But I think also it was like, oh you get- Also it was a punishment. Yeah. It's like the modern day stockade where you have to put your-
Starting point is 01:29:35 Yeah. I- then I have to eat my burger. It's a punishment. No, I have to eat fucking this guy's burger burger with 16 sauces on it. And all the cucumbers. Which look, I would try that burger. It sounded great. I love cucumber.
Starting point is 01:29:51 I do too. It's a little different than what I would normally order. I've used this to make the story better. I've used this narrative because right when my burger had avocado and it also had bean sprouts on it. Oh dear I fucking hate being sprout you do okay, so okay I like a few but whenever you get something like this so much and then it's like what I can only taste bean sprouts I can promise you I regret doing that because that month Because their whole thing was we're gonna add it to the menu and I don't know if
Starting point is 01:30:24 This has any bearing. Okay, I just it's what I tell myself but that month bean sprouts were all recalled for Listeria and We I know this because I went to the grocery store because blaze felt bad when I lost and he went and bought all the Ingredients and made the burger at home for me. Oh god sick. No, and when we were at Kroger We couldn't find bean sprouts and the grocery grocery, we asked, because we never asked, but we were like, well, it has to have bean sprouts. That's part of the recipe. And he said, oh, no, no, no, it's all been recalled.
Starting point is 01:30:53 We are not, and they didn't sell bean sprouts for like weeks or months that summer. So anyway, I like to tell myself that I won second because of that. But I probably, it probably just was not as good as whatever the first one was. But. So what else was on it, sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:07 It was, oh my gosh, it's literally been 10 years. Avocado, oh my God. Well now I'm on the spot. I should probably find it. I don't even remember what restaurant it was. I know it had beans around it. And I think a fried egg. But I don't recall the rest.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Okay. It was very delicious though. Anyway, so yeah, I kind of, I guess I'm saying that to say I kind of feel for this guy in this sort of delusional way. You think you won something even though you didn't win it. Yeah, it's better than having, so look, I would feel differently if they were mad at this business for stealing their idea or not giving them credit
Starting point is 01:31:52 or something. Exactly. So no, the energy is good. I don't wanna be rude. It's just, I was trying to make the connection between these two burgers and I feel like it wasn't there. But maybe it's, they were- It was almost like charming in a naive way of like oh okay they might have been
Starting point is 01:32:08 inspired by different parts of different comments you know so I could see it being a community effort type thing um I don't know the caramelized onions maybe they're the only person that comments to say that and they were like oh yeah let's throw that in there. Yeah. I mean, very well could be. Yeah. Or like tomato.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Oh, we didn't think of that. Listen, mine was a Listeria outbreak. Yours was a little caramelized onions and butter. I can see it. I know which one I would pick between those two. Well, too bad for me. Anyway, thank you everybody for listening to our pet supplements episode. It's a special one as we've already determined
Starting point is 01:32:53 because it taught us so much and yet so little about the animal kingdom. Yeah, I always come out of episodes like this thinking, what did we learn today today it feels like we learned things and then it feels like we also lost a lot of knowledge along the way yeah i had to make room like i feel dumber than i did before and yet i know more facts knowing more about horse periods yeah probably i'm not sure what what part of my brain had to shove things out probably it was nothing too
Starting point is 01:33:25 important. Probably whatever eating challenge you were trying to remember earlier that we had eaten. Yeah, it definitely just kept that away because, yeah, for good reason. Maybe, who knows, maybe I'll be taking weird pills tomorrow just like I used to because I can't stop thinking about horse periods. Yeah, yikes. Okay. I might just take the wrong pill in the morning instead of my ADHD pill again. Well, I'll send you some Miracle water for For your coat and your feathers. Okay, I'll do my best not to drink it. Okay Beach to sandy water to wet is a forever dog production hosted and produced by Sandy and Christine Schieffer cover art by Courtney Aventura theme music by Mavis White, executive produced by Zoe Applebaum.
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