Beantown Podcast - 09232018_Quinn David Furness presents the Beantown Podcast ft. Matthew Fiedler
Episode Date: September 24, 2018Quinn continues his Fall 2018 Tour LIVE from Rockford, IL, joined by special guest and taxmaster Matthew Fiedler to discuss Liam Neeson roles, RISK strategy (and risk management strategy), and when to... hold in your pee and when to not
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Welcome to the bean town podcast.
Late night, getting comfortable live from the beautiful city of
Rockton, Illinois, coming to you live from Illinois, the natural state,
it's Quinn David Furness, joined by special guests, and we mean special.
Matthew Fiedler,. How you doing tonight? I've done good
I'm happy to be here. How are you?
I'm a local house
Yeah, thanks again for letting me do my laundry upstairs
We kind of got a little Wayne's world action going on down here down in the basement
Spent a lot of spent a lot of time down in this basement in my life.
Probably, it's probably, basement number two in terms of time that I've spent in my life after
my childhood home. Really, you didn't visit many basements as a child. Well, neither one of my
grandparents had basements. Okay. And I'm trying to think there isn't really anyone
else. I mean we played a lot of time playing ping pong down here and parties
and there were some explicit activity happening on certain rugs.
Yeah well okay first of all you can't just you can't just drop that not.
First I feel like I should disclaim that it wasn't us. Not. Wasn't me and Matthew.
That's important. Yeah. Well before we tell any stories we should
probably mention that listener discretion is advised. When you're
tuning into the bean town podcast number one. I should have gotten
a cough drop. I was upstairs. Number one, this is gonna be interesting.
The occasionally drop some jargon or paraphernalia here
or there.
Number two, the podcast is objectively terrible.
Although how bad can a podcast surely be
when you join by the state lines, number one,
tax accountants, Matthew Feather.
I don't know, I have, the listeners have high hopes for this podcast
and we're gonna bring it.
I feel like you're out of touch with the state lines
that you've been away.
Yeah, well ever since Eric Sorenson unfriended me on Facebook.
And as a little blow,
I don't wanna talk about it a couple of years ago. Well,
used to be friends with Eric Wilson too. I had a double team WREX 13 and now
they just got a new batch of kids in there. So I don't know. And I got a big
time beer belly going here. I got a lot of water in there. Water, let's see. Matthew, you were telling a story about a certain rug.
Well, I don't know how detailed I should really get.
The fans crave details.
It's not really my story to tell.
OK, I'll tell some of it.
Yeah, I don't think that it affects people that I know now.
Of course, to be fair, I think.
It's hidey's tuning in.
I don't think so. Well, maybe it was even there. Bean Town podcast is know now. Of course, to be proud of. It's Heidi's tuning in. I don't think so.
Well, maybe she was even there.
Bean Tom Podcast is international now.
We're in Winnipeg and Cooper.
Anywhere there's anything, right?
Elsewhere, yeah. Exactly.
Okay, so I think it was a birthday party.
So it was Darlene, my older sister,
for those of you who do not know who are international.
And my birthday, they're very close.
So like six days apart.
August 4th.
That's why my birthday is, yeah.
And so she invited quite a bit of her friends over.
And I didn't invite, actually I don't really
think it was a birthday party for me,
but I'm thinking about it. I think it just happened to be a party around when my birthday was.
So it's for her, you weren't there, right? Yeah, you were there.
You were there. This was like 30 years ago. Yeah, so Quinn and his brothers and his sister,
I don't know if Abby was there. I think she was invited. He probably didn't invite her.
I think she was invited. He probably just didn't really like that.
That makes sense.
And so, Darling had a lot of her then friends over.
Sounds like there's another story there, but keep going.
So, I think my parents were very keen on keeping the party outside.
I say party, it was more like a bonfire.
We had food out there.
But for some reason, a few of them slipped inside
and then snuck into our basement.
And my dad, I think it was dead and stumbled across.
He'd keep it downstairs and flip the light on it.
They were engaged in to keep it light.
Some form of yoga pose on our rock, you know, just got awkward.
There was one person watching and two people engaging in yoga.
And that's as far as I'll probably go.
And ever since then, the baby-making rug has been, we don't have it anymore.
This is a different rug, by the way, I remember correctly way I remember correctly donated it to charity and they were never invited for the children's
hospital just to complete the circle of life but yeah so there's a story I
yeah they're super exciting but do you know do you know the song the parties
over in parentheses hopelessly in love by Journey.
Because I imagine that's what your dad was singing after that.
The parties over, I have gone away.
It's kind of a deeper journey cut, but if anyone's listening out there for all five of you,
go go ahead and listen to Journey, hopelessly in in love it's actually a really underrated song. I don't know if you know this I was actually going to
bring it up earlier when we were talking about music because I think Journey you
might have mentioned a Journey song and I forgot about it. Did you know that Steve
Perry the original frontman for Journey is coming out with his own solo stuff now?
Yeah he was just doing some interviews recently.
So I was just recently, I just heard about him.
Well, he hasn't been with Journey for many years now.
Yeah, I mean, like he was there when they got popular and then he left,
but I don't know why he left.
Well, yeah, I mean, he was, he was still with them up into the 90s at least.
So I mean, by that time all their major hits had come out.
I mean, I think the last...
Sherry.
I mean, that's just Steve Perry, right?
I don't think that's a journey song.
I think that's just a Steve Perry song.
Oh, good day.
We can do research on it later.
Anyways, I think the last kind of major journey song that ever came out that would still be considered
like classic journey would be when you love a woman.
Okay.
Which I think is like mid 90s, maybe, maybe late 80s, I'm not sure, but and that's still
him.
But I don't know.
He had the classic hair.
Oh, he got amazing hair.
Yeah, with like the, it's, you know, if I know if you call that a mullet but I think he's my celebrity
doppelganger no
Dustin Hoffman or okay you're if Dustin Hoffman and John QZ had a gay beat that's that's who you are
yeah but the hair situation has been calm down yeah your hair doesn't look like any one of those
people now but no I think I think I think there is a scene or a picture from all the
presidents' men who looked at it on the screen.
And I was like, whoa, that's Matthew Feather.
That's crazy talk.
I mean, hanging out with Robert Redford.
So I haven't seen that movie, by the way.
What?
Did you read the book?
Nope.
Did you read Theer by Bob Woodward?
No.
Did you see Deep Throat or Mark, what was it called?
Mark Fault, the Liam Neeson movie about Deep Throat?
No.
I didn't see that one either.
It got pretty bad reviews.
Which was a shame, because it's like a pretty
cool story.
I'm a Liam Neeson fan.
Well, then you would probably like Mark Fault.
I feel like Liam Neeson just doesn't get old. He's like a better version of Bruce Willis. I feel like Liam Neeson just doesn't get old.
He's like a better version of Bruce Willis.
I feel like he started that.
That'll piss some people off.
Did you see the commuter?
What did you think? I never saw it.
There's your strong and right-of-the-dance.
I said that I love Liam Neeson.
It was all right.
It's not going to be like, oh, whoa, it's my favorite movie.
It's like a one-off movie.
You watch it to say you watch it.
And I'm like, oh, yeah.
I feel like that's kind of what his career and his later
years has turned into, unfortunately.
He got Liam Neeson's never won an Oscar.
I don't believe, but he did get nominated
at the very least for Schindler's list.
He didn't win for Schindler's list, both he and Reif Fiance got nominated in the acting categories,
but neither one of them won.
Although Schindler's list won probably, I don't know, seven or eight Oscars.
So I was just looking at that the other day.
Best picture.
I think John Williams might have won for that.
I bet Steven Spielberg won for that.
So yeah, it's a classic.
Matthew, what's the last Liam Neeson movie
you saw that you really liked?
Did I really liked, huh?
You know what, the last Liam Neeson movie
I probably saw was a commuter.
Yeah, but you didn't really like it. I don't really like it. What about there's a unknown is a decent movie. I mean like
So he I think the plot line is he gets like amnesia
Yeah, like what's it called when it's not like it comes back. It's just like for temporary amnesia.
Is there a clinical term for that?
I don't know. Okay, but so he gets the amnesia and then he's like trying to put his life back together and he's there's some kind of
Are you thinking of memento with guy peers? No, although that is a good movie. There's also
There's a
Bollywood spin-off of memento. Oh, that is a good movie. There's also a Bollywood spin-off of Momento.
Oh, that sounds...
Called ambitious.
I think it's called Gajani.
It's really a great movie.
If the Bollywood industry is very untapped, I think, by American culture.
Oh, I feel like it's tapped, just not...
Maybe by Americans.
It's not tapped very hard.
Yeah.
Okay.
Bollywood.
You know, I almost went to Dollywood a couple days ago.
The same at all. Well, I figured since we were talking about it, we might as well.
It rhymes. Yeah. Okay. You ever go to Dollyworld?
I never went to Dollyworld. You ever went to the Great Smokies?
Yeah. So it's right there. You should have hit it up while you were there.
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I'm kind of missing out.
Well, a little bit. Yeah. We drove by it one time. We were driving from
North Carolina back to
Northern Illinois and we went through the
Great Smokies and we I think we drove through Pigeon Forge and
Gatlinburg is that what it's called. I was driving from
Knoxville to Chattanooga on Thursday evening and you can go the director
route right along the interstate.
It takes about hour 40 or you can go into the great smokies.
The adventures route.
And it takes forever.
If you go all the way to Cherokee, North Carolina, which is on the other side of the park and then back out to Chattanooga that takes about five hours total.
That's what I did last year. I was driving from Chattanooga to Knoxville and I went all the way to Cherokee and then came back out. pretty, but it's also, you know, five hours to go a grand total of probably something like,
I don't know, maybe only like a hundred, fifty, hundred, sixty miles because once you're
in the park and then also the Cherokee National Forest, it's just...
Windy road.
Extremely windy and it's not a speed limit situation, it's just you physically unless you
want to crash your car. How's your traction control? Oh, it's great, but you know, I don't know how much it's not a speed limit situation. It's just you physically unless you want to crash your car.
How's your traction control?
Oh, it's great.
But I don't know how much that you really want to test.
Yeah.
Understandable.
And then you get behind the main event
and you can't pass because you can't see anything
on the other side.
So I decided this time.
And I kind of did a halfway.
So I didn't go, although I
technically at one point did end up in North Carolina, but I didn't go all the way
to the other side of the park or the forest. I kind of went halfway and then
came back out. And then I did a really cool thing. You can see it on my Facebook page
if you need your friends on my personal page. I'll try to upload that to the podcast page as well, but I was
standing in, so I drove out to where pretty close to where you can stand in
three states at once North Carolina, Tennessee and Georgia.
What's your stance look like when you do that?
What's my stance?
Yeah, okay, so if you're gonna stand in two states, it's like one foot in each
state. Well, I put one foot
In all three states right on the corner, you know, that's hard to do well
With GPS and modern technology and they took me a couple minutes
So you stood in all three states with on with one is like I was playing Pokemon go and I just went where the money was
What's I exactly on all three states probably not because you just went off on modern technology
and now you're backtracking?
Geez.
I'm triggered.
Just getting hammered.
Every port here is like you're playing Lord of the Rings risk and you really thought
that your hold on Gondor was strong and next thing you know
Armies from the east mortar all this dead marches armies are piling up. Oh don't forget minutes turt is under siege
What's the last time you actually played risk played risk?
probably
Ten years ago
Well probably more recently on the computer, but... So, for people that are listening, basically the only reason why I quit and I talk was because
I think you came over one day and taught me how to play risk, right?
Did we teach you how to play risk?
Yeah, I think so. I mean, like, we had it.
I had it, but I didn't, also also I didn't really know how to play it. Yeah, we spent a lot of time growing up in general
both my family then with Matthew playing a lot of risk I think
With you we probably played original
Most often because we would play on your computer more frequently than not. There's a lot easier to set up
a lot easier to set up. A lot easier to set up.
And Matthew could cheat.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, F12, or whatever.
There was a few people, actually,
only a handful of people know this.
But then I found like a crack to the software.
And it was like unlimited reinforcements.
And I slowly was building an army against.
I think it was just jacking you, right?
Typically, yeah.
I don't think I ever played with Wall.
No, no, what was always busy doing stuff.
We would sit up on the second floor,
Mount Olive Lutheran Church, Nalpine Road
during volleyball tryouts and play risk,
what a time to be alive.
Oh man, I forgot about that.
Yeah.
I just, I told you I was seeing those swing dancing photos
on Facebook the other day.
Yeah.
Quinn and I used to be swingers.
Oh yeah, we swing.
Swing.
The 60s key parties, all that stuff.
But I saw the windows from the gym
into that youth room or whatever it was called,
and so that made me think of that.
I played a lot of risk.
When my brothers and I, we played a lot of
Lord of the Rings risk,
it was a little bit more involved.
Some more variations, the map was huge.
That was a lot of fun.
Here's the problem with three-player risk is
especially my brothers and I all fairly conservative in terms of our military
strategies. It's really tough when you play three players to really make moves
on anything because if one person is ambitious enough to make a big strike against another
player, then inherently they're left weaker and exposed to the third player. And if you let
that happen, then chaos ensues. And if there's one thing we don't like when we're playing risk, it's chaos. We like a nice, orderly, neat game you want to always feel in control of everything.
You want to have, this is my territory and I'm going to hold this content at this turn.
And no, I'm not going to try to take all of Asia, but that's okay because you're not going
to either. So I had a similar issue, because so my sisters were all pretty much down with playing
risk too.
So when I wasn't playing with you, I'd play with them, but I come from such a loving
family that they felt really bad killing you off.
So it ended up just being like, we'll get you really close to dying, but I won't finish you off because I feel bad because they do not playing anymore.
Yeah, it's much more world diplomacy than military takeover.
Although, so I was a little bit too young to really experience this fully, but you would always hear stories of people, my brothers,
but other people going over to like, I won't name drop,
but certain people's birthday parties.
And risk was always a thing there.
And you get, I know, you're playing six player risk,
which I think is the max.
You can play in the original.
And oftentimes, in six player risk,
if you are the last person to have a turn,
you're pretty much dead.
There's a good chance you don't even have a turn.
I mean, you might start trying to think
off the time I had how many territories
there are on a normal risk board.
Probably not a ton, probably somewhere around like 30 to 40. And so if
you're playing with six people, you only have six territories, six to seven
territories to start a game. And you just might not physically get a turn or
you get one turn, but you're not able to really do anything, and you just pick up your
three reinforcements, and if there's someone else who gets a consummate bonus, then you're
screwed if they decide they want to come after you.
So this just then we have 42 territories.
42 territories.
I was pretty close, so if you play six players, everyone gets seven countries. And there's also a big incentive.
If you do get one turn and you take a card,
then you're even more of a sitting duck
because if someone kills you off and they get your card,
and in a big game like that, that can mean
a world of difference, an opponent tend to.
So if they don't kill you off the first turn,
your reinforcements, I'm guessing it's just three.
We're getting really dirty now, but you get three
reinforcements and you're just more concentrated.
So like, it'll probably be at that point of the game,
it's slightly harder to kill you off.
It's just easier to do it the first turn.
Yeah, it really just depends if you're in someone's way.
Or if you're just super spread out and you'll
be able to have like one guy in each then oftentimes you'll have, you might even be a
player who devotes your entire turn with your reinforcements just to killing off someone
else because you know you're going to get their card back.
Plus all the territories you take over in exchange.
So yeah, super level nerd time now.
What's the most advanced board game you've ever played? Like most rules, most
I don't really
imbibed too much, especially since I went away to college and crazy
board games. My brother, all his brother Walt, and maybe when he listens to
this, he'll leave a comment on our YouTube page.
But there is a certain game that he plays with some college buddies who were in fact, who had
gone to the college he went to and graduated before he even got there, but it's never the
last college buddies because he met them while he was at the college.
I'm trying to remember what it's called.
It's something, it's virgin queen I think is what it's called. It's a suggestive title.
But according to him, and I've never seen a game take place with these games take hours. They do it overnight.
And they play once a year, I believe my brother Walt to is a good strategy, just good at board games, but can't hold a candle in terms of just the
in-depth strategy of this board game specifically to some of the people he plays with from what
I've heard. And he's still managed to win the last two games last two years, which is impressive.
But I believe it's called Virgin Queen. I've never seen it myself. The most complicated
game I've ever played.
I don't know, have you ever played Dominion?
I've heard of it.
Well, not a board game, but a card game.
At its base is a very simple game with very simple rules,
but there are a lot of different cards
that you throw into the mix that can change things.
So it's a very easy game to understand.
And if you have sort of easy cards, then games are quick.
But if you throw in really complex cards,
that's when, if we ever let Walt, my oldest brother,
set up a game of Dominion, he just kicks our ass
because he uses all the tricky cards that he knows.
And I only play, you know, once or twice a year.
So I don't have as much strategy there.
So this virgin
queen game, yeah, there's a tutorial on YouTube on how to do the first turn. And how long is it?
Yeah, the tutorial is two hours long. Yep. And that's the first turn. Yeah, it's, uh, I'd be interested,
and I'm sure you can go on YouTube and watch games and stuff. I'd be interested in seeing
what it looks like and just why it takes so damn long. It looks like it's like a map of Europe.
That would make sense if the title's version queen. Yeah, and it's 150 bucks.
There's like shipping and none of that. Yeah, it seems like a pretty old school game. What an investment time.
Yeah, it seems like a pretty old school game. What an investment time.
Yeah, time investment, monetary investment.
Yeah, plus you might lose some friends in the process.
Yeah, that's guaranteed.
Yeah, yeah, playing a lot of board games, growing up, I'll still play a lot of board games
and such when I visit with family.
But otherwise, throughout the year, I don't typically do it because my friends don't really
get interested in that stuff.
And I've brought my collar board to work
and no one wants to play.
So.
That's your bad.
I play that.
I love marble.
Yeah.
My collar is fun.
I played some with my brother, one of them.
I don't remember which one probably Jack a couple weeks or months
ago and he kicked my butt.
Do you ever dabble in like card games?
Like Kanasta?
I don't know.
I would play Kanasta.
What type of card games?
There's any game like GoFish or StripPoker.
Yeah, you can goFish, any of those. StripPoker. Yeah, you can poke or goFish. Any
of those. StripPoker is next on the agenda for us. For us? I suck at that. How can you suck at StripPoker?
I really don't have much to show. So, what's your favorite card game, Matthew?
What's your favorite card game, Matthew?
Speed is a good one. Speed is, yeah, I like doing speed.
Yeah.
Double, you double it up.
You play speed while doing speed.
That would be the life.
But also recently, shout out to my girlfriend. She has been obsessed with
a game called Monopoly deal. That's a fun game. So it's like, it's a summarized version
of playing Monopoly, but no board, and you have cards that represent the properties,
and there's like different action cards. That's pretty fun.
Monopoly can really break friendships. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I played one game of Monopoly in the last five years and it was at a
co-workers house. We had a snow day and
Let's see. You still talk to that co-worker
Yeah, it can see's nice, but we played Monopoly and I just got lucky with they were all trading.
But what's your strategy?
The thing with Monopoly is that I have to be so big. peace hoping. Yeah, that's a point.
My strategy is just, I'm really boring.
Roll the dice, score round, collect money when it's time to collect pay when it's time
to pay and see what happens.
Really?
So, what I do is I roll and then every time I land on a spot, I just buy it, just every
single time.
Well, that works until you don't have money to buy it.
But then you can trade because you have literally everything.
Unless you're not landing on spots, then that sucks.
But we're off really in depth strategy here, man.
It's just, I mean, you have to adapt.
They can't have like a, you know, always win strategy.
But there's more places to purchase than there are not places
to purchase.
At the beginning of the game, yes.
Well, what I do often times, or what I see when I'm playing with friends is coworkers,
they really go crazy and they like to do trades, but in almost any trade imaginable in Monopoly,
there's gonna be a clear winner and a clear loser.
And so-
That's exactly the same one to worry about you.
That's tough to find.
It's just like, I would never make a trade
in which I knew I was gonna be the clear loser.
So, I don't know, I don't typically go for those trades.
Matthew, you want to, you want to vamp for a little bit?
You're leaving me to.
Yeah, well, 30 seconds and I'll be back.
Okay, well you're a quick peer.
I'm not going to wash my hands.
Well, if you please just, I'll try, I'm okay with sitting here in silence for an extra
few seconds.
No, dead air. No, dead air.
Well, I guess this is our seventh inning stretch, not for me of course, but for Quinn,
for those of you that are still listening.
Thanks for still listening.
Yeah, wow, I really ran out of things to talk about pretty quickly.
If you guys have not checked out the bean town unplugged
segment that was shot it was shot earlier
We're doing this subsequent to that
But I it probably hit the the internet a little bit quicker
So that should be up and I think that's up on the bean town podcast Facebook page and
I'll have to Double check on Quinn's posting strategy,
if that's also put out there on Twitter as well.
But if you want to see some old classics get slightly butchered,
then go ahead and check that out.
The butchering wasn't so much on Quinn's part,
but there were some higher falsetto backing vocals
that were pretty rough, as well as just overall guitar playing.
But be sure to check that out.
Also, you can email the bean town podcast at beantown
at yahoo.com.
And I verify with Quinn why he's using Yahoo,
but apparently that's the up and coming platform.
Is that correct?
I think it's came in as one, but I think we need
to hook you up with Gmail.
You might get more mail.
You might be getting mail, it's just being sent to spam.
I really don't know.
Here's the thing.
The Bean Tom podcast.
He's an all-American.
You are, sure, hands.
Absolutely.
Okay, good.
It's an all-american podcast.
And we like to look to the past to guide our future.
And I think Yahoo's both the past and the future.
Yeah, with a Y-mail.
Is that what they call it?
Yeah, so it's there's been off of Gmail.
But I don't quite ring quite as well, but you can always email us.
Bean Tomp, I don't know if you already do this.
I slightly did.
I didn't spot out for it.
Well, you got so in case people can understand.
Yeah, I just spelled.
Bean Tomp podcast Yahoo.com.
It's Bean Town, BEA to be a podcast Yahoo.com.
Whoa, how do you spell?
How do you spell town?
Well, it's right over.
This is my show.
He's going to be in town.
We're going to spell the way I want to spell.
Maybe that's why you're not good.
Did you check your email?
Yeah, I should.
Well, yeah, there's nothing in it.
OK, maybe that's why I sign up for a lot of people aren't
getting the time.
Precruises and stuff and a trip to Las Vegas
through that email, though. And again, a lot of spam aren't getting free cruises and stuff and a trip to Las Vegas through that email though and again a lot of spam
That's worth then having a spam email you got all these great offers
Cruise for two that could be us. Well, I don't know Matthew. How many throw away emails do you have?
None of them are throw away. I you know
Unfortunately, there's another Matthew Feeblout there who took it.
And this is a big question that I have.
I'm going to go on a mini rant here.
I won't take up too much airtime.
So once we have children and they have children and they have children, what happens?
Do they like phase out?
Emails?
Like, you know what I mean?
I think we're going gonna run out of something.
There'll be a process if there isn't already one
for identifying people who have passed
and removing their.
Yeah, because like what?
That'll have, it probably, I'm sure there's
at some level somewhere, something like that exists.
It hasn't had to have been a thing yet
because considering the internet's only been around
for 30 years.
And it's infancy.
But yeah, in the next 50 years,
that will definitely become a major.
I don't think necessarily a problem
because I think it's an easy problem to identify.
Maybe not a super easy one to solve,
but I think there are some smart people out there.
They'll figure out how to do those things.
I have background checks and stuff.
Maybe three personal emails and there are all variations of my name and then just like
a number of them.
But what are you using?
Oh, the Gmail.
Yeah, so what are the other two?
What are their pros?
Oh, they're all Gmail.
They're just different emails.
But like, why?
Why do you have three different Gmail ones?
Because one, I never check.
One, I never check them and one, I use.
So what's the purpose of having the other two?
Spammy stuff.
If you have to sign up for something, just do it.
OK, that's what we call throw away.
Yeah, and that's why I said that.
OK, so I asked you how many throwways
you have in you said none?
No, no, no, I said. I mean,
We got to listen back to the tape on this one. Yeah, I don't know. Oh my short-term memory is not grand. You have short-term
Amnesia, like we were talking about earlier, but yeah, so I technically have two then are throwaways. All right. I'm trying to think I have
I haven't entirely on, hold on.
Let's go back.
What was the...
You don't have to say exactly, I guess, but what was your first email address?
My first email address?
You like 60 minutes 43 or something?
No, it was QDiv.
016cyahoo.com.
Okay, still with the Yahoo. Yeah. Well, this was back in 2005.
And I don't think Gmail was invented in 2005.
Or if it had it, it'd been literally one or two years.
The only competition with Yahoo was AOL, probably.
Yeah, AOL Comcast.
Like my partner was Com, AOL Comcasts. Like my Piano.
It was Comcasts.
Was Comcasts?
Yeah, my parents, when they were growing up,
their primary email was all the Comcasts.
Well, before that it was Juno.net, which I don't know
too much about.
But yeah, I had Yahoo email address first.
And the only reason I got it was because
it started playing fantasy football, and it was 10. Okay, yeah. And you need an email address first and the only reason I got it was because it started playing fantasy football and it was 10.
Okay.
And you need an email address for that.
Then I got my regular personal email address when I was probably, I don't know, 16 or
so, around that time, like when I got a phone and stuff.
When that stuff starts to become a little bit more relevant, although I don't recall
really almost ever using my personal email address
in high school, probably only to like hit on girls
or something before I hit a sentence.
Yeah, no, I know that with your line of work,
you might not have the ability to share too much.
But what's it, do you get really strange email addresses
that come through your inbox at work?
Because I think you're subjected to a plethora
of different email addresses.
For me, it's all standardized like where I work.
Yeah, in terms of what the actual handles are.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure I do.
I don't look at those, though.
I don't look at, though. I don't look at
Because my I do not I don't know how this stuff works, but my exchange will
Identify like the name names, and so I'm not actually looking at
It's there if I wanted to look at it, but I never do I just look at the name and then I see
You know the message
The subject line all that stuff, so I'm sure they do, but I don't actually look at them.
Meanwhile, to the listeners at home
or in your car wherever you are, you're really,
you're really missing out because you're missing out
on Quinn's long flowing locks that are just,
like two stories about this head.
He's got a nice little gamer, the Cosm of Action going here.
Yeah, astounding.
I noticed that in the mirror.
It's getting out of control.
You know, when you have those days when it goes from you feel
perfect in the morning to by the very end of the day,
you just feel like absolute crap.
You spend it all.
Is that now?
That's how we of this at now.
That's how we're doing right now.
So the, it mostly day I just been the sore throat, and then I think the bond jovy we were
doing early really, really kicked something into hyper drive because now the stomach's
going and just now, like, in the last 20 minutes the congestion is starting.
In fact, I was sitting in the back of some mucinets. that was sitting in the bathroom, I need something or tea or whiskey.
I can get your bowl. If I was sitting in the bathroom during this
podcast, thinking to myself, we're sitting on the throne, right?
I'm a throne. Okay. And I was thinking, wow, you know, this is
so I'll kind of go in the way expected, but I haven't had any congestion yet. So it's going to be a mini cold and I'm going
to have two or three days where I'm going to have to be blowing my nose quite a bit. What
shall be fun? Because based on how it's going to say the worst day is going to be Monday and Tuesday,
which is perfect. Great when I start working again, but
now the congestion is coming. My breathing, there's no like snot in anything, but I can already feel that my nasal passages are getting a little bit more swollen. You know, my voice is getting a
little bit deeper. Yeah, but that's good for the podcast. It's great for the podcast. I can't say that
people people dig that deep. Oh yeah, people are flocking to this episode for sure. How long can you go?
Well
Double down isn't John Malen camp come into the corner? Yeah soon. Yeah, I have to come back for that John Cooper Malen camp
Matthew who we're some of the bigger artists you've
ever seen live in concert? You're a big music guy. I've seen Coldplay live. That's pretty
good. Lord here on live. Yeah, we all know Lord here on. It's
I remember you telling me about that. That was a rough concert though for me. Oh yeah, got stoned.
Well, second hand.
Second hand stoned.
I wasn't going to tell you about this,
but I also threw up.
Nice.
You know what though?
The concert goers were very nice.
And they offered me water that was $10 a carton.
They just said, here, take it to which I I took and then I was like, I don't
know what's in this. I assume it was water. But shivare is not dead. Yeah. But yeah,
that was a good concert. And then I think I saw mercy me. There a pretty big name in the Christian scene.
It was one of those like ten for one where you go and like all the hip and
happening Christian artists.
I can only imagine.
Yeah, and I did.
I didn't have to because there was singing.
So long, sir, oh Cheryl for let's been fun and I have found
some money else so long
say there's just no room for two
so you are gonna have to move
so long say to take this wrong
me wrong for you farewell
well goodbye don't cry.
Wow.
So I don't say it.
I don't think even, uh,
bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,
bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Your, your recollection of the lyrics are pretty great.
I had to think about that.
You know, there's, there, there's single from like two years
going to call it shake. You know, that song. I don't think so. there they're there's single from like two years ago called shake, you know that song
I don't think so you bad a shake. Oh, that's
That's a really good
Oh, so not
I don't remember how that song goes. It's pretty catchy though. We can watch the video after this
It was good stuff
It might have been nominated for Grammy.
Get out of here.
No, the Grammy's there like 70 categories.
Can you rant a little bit on Christian music?
Well, you know what, I'm gonna rant on.
Anyone can win a Grammy these days
because they got it for like best spoken word performed.
Okay, all right, well, okay, your feet are...
You're getting close to something
that I'm very passionate about.
So I'm gonna cut you off.
Okay, I don't wanna hear any of this crap about like,
oh Bob Dylan doesn't deserve a Nobel Prize.
No, not Bob Dylan, but you know who doesn't deserve a Grammy?
Oh, Bob, yeah, okay.
He does have a great voice though.
But your best Obama impression, can we, okay, that's voice though, but your best Obama impression. Can we?
Okay, I can't do it Obama impression. You can knock yourself.
America. That's not Obama. The beautiful. It's well, I think it's just the way that like you end your syllable.
It's the way of speaking. It's not necessarily his vocal quality. Well, you're supposed to do both. I can't do both. I can only do one.
Look, this podcast might be pretty terrible. You're supposed to do both. I can't do both. I can only do one.
Look, this podcast might be pretty terrible.
There it is, dude.
I think if you give it a little bit of a listen,
you might just find something you didn't think you were going
to be looking for.
And what it might mean for you, the listener,
is better quality of life.
It's actually like Obama with a head cold.
Obama with a head cold.
Yeah, we covered a lot of ground.
Ranteon, Christian music, what specifically do you want me to write?
Okay, because I love the Christians.
So I people say I don't like Christians.
I love the Christians.
Yeah.
Um, I don't know.
I don't know.
Speechless.
Speechless.
So when you're scrolling, I say scrolling,
but when you're flipping through the channels on the radio
or however the kids do it these days.
I don't have a car in order to have a TV.
So it's not a lot of channel flip.
It always used to be.
I remember the days when they had like that.
That way it seems to me.
I remember the days where you would actually, there's a dial.
There's something that you would do to change the channels
on your radio, right?
And you knew the split second.
The split second, you had a Christian station
because all Christian music, at least the ones that
are aired on the radio, sound exactly the same.
They're the basic chords.
I'm not saying that pop music of today is any major stretch of complicated music structure
or a great chord usage, but you could just tell it was Christian music.
And it's like, it kind of got boring.
Well, here's the thing.
Contemporary Christian music is not terribly creative.
And the reason for that is because they're caught in between a rock and a hard place because you get
unless you're like a big-time solo artist who produces Christian music and right. And now I'm
thinking like a skillet type of band where they're Christian band but you're not singing their songs in church. There are very many bands
like that. Yeah like skillet or like I mean switch foot's not gonna come out
and explicitly they're a Christian band but a lot of their music deals very
clearly with Christian themes but then the majority of mainstream Christian artists,
someone like Hill Song or Chris Tomlin, they write their stuff with a specific goal in mind of
making their songs easy to sing as part of a congregation. If your song is going to be easy to sing as part of congregation, it inherently can't be that out there or creative. And you know, I've had first-hand
experience with this. It go to like a mega church with a really good band and
they might play a kick-ass song that also happens to be a Christian song, but
then you're set at
concert because nobody is 95% of people don't have the musical. Yeah, to be able to
farm all that stuff. Exactly. So that's kind of why that is the way it is, but
you're right. When you flip a channel or a radio station to a Christian music you can
there are certain qualities it's very positive and uplifting yeah often
times multiple sync people seeing together on one note it's a very
that's what I was trying to do earlier. It's a very good idea. I'm a church thing.
Harmonizing.
Yeah, and lots of, yeah, lots, lots of pretty basic instrumentation.
Not typically anything too crazy.
Although you know what, and when I'm around people and they see that I'm listening to this,
they assume that I'm doing some sort of like anti-Christian
research.
It's not.
I listen to a lot of Gator vocal band, I don't know if you're finally with them.
Southern Gospel.
They're like the premiere, like not all their stuff is Southern Gospel, but like Baptist.
Yeah, more or less.
We can look at it after and I'll show it to you what
I mean. But I do listen to a lot of stuff. And it's not because I'm really digging all
the Christian themes and things that they sing about. Some of that can be hit or missed
for me. But these guys, and I'll show you after we're done, you'll see what I'm talking
about. They get the best.
They get the best people to sing in that group and they are crazy good.
So I appreciate that not as someone who's searching for organized religion in my life, but
as someone who really appreciates excellent singing.
So I do, I actually listen to their stuff pretty much every day not for like my
Morning ritual of spiritual with it, but because like it's really catchy stuff. So
That Bill Gather you can you write some catchy songs?
Yeah, good for a bill
So what's what's as you mentioned that you
You listen to that every day?
Well just because I'm totally a creature of habit, I go on my YouTube and half of it is
new recommendations and half of it is stuff you listen to a billion times so why do I listen
to one more time?
But I like how it's so besides that what's on your, your rate as far as current music.
Well, I still been listening to Death Cab a lot lately.
Okay.
They're classic stuff.
Not a ton of their most,
these just dropped in the album a month ago.
And I don't know, it was okay.
It wasn't amazing.
Nothing that catchy.
But I have been getting into a lot of their older stuff.
Because before I started really listening
to the Death Cabin Ernest like two months ago, I could have told you a couple of their songs
and I actually saw them in concert one time maybe three or four summers ago.
But I've really appreciated getting into their older stuff and a lot of people, when I
tell them, oh yeah, I've been listening to a lot of death cab lately they kind of
laugh not like a mocking way at me, but just like oh death cab you feeling like really emo and
I don't know I think anyone should go listen to either
transatlanticism or plans and Ben Gibbard who's in their frontman the whole time is
or plans and Ben Gibbard, who's in their frontman the whole time, is one of the best songwriters. In my opinion, my limited scope.
Was it the postal service?
Yep.
He is, not only is his voice awesome, he's a great musician, but a really good songwriter as
well.
I was just in fact this morning, in my hotel room as I was getting dressed. There is, so from Trans-Atlanticism,
they have a song called, they look like giants.
And it's not one of their super well-known songs,
but it's a good song.
But I was watching a live version,
and it was just from someone's phone in the audience.
So I had lots of expectations for quality.
The song quality actually sounded really good,
but it's like a 10 minute version of this three minute song. And in the middle of it,
they wheel out a second drum set on stage and Ben Gibber and the drummer play at the
same time. It's awesome. I'm going to make a list quickly of a couple of videos we can
look at after we finish up. But it was awesome.
And I didn't know literally until this morning that Ben Gibbard could play drums like
that.
But if anyone does want a quick taste, just go find Death Cab's Tiny Desk concert on NPR.
Oh, they do great concerts.
Yeah.
Strip down.
That's what I thought was supposed to be.
Exactly.
Have you ever seen the tea
pain he does a tiny disc? Great. Oh man. What a great singer. I almost prefer it without
all the auto tune. Like he's a very, yeah. And that's kind of what I appreciate. Like, you
have there's so many popular artists now that like they can't sing, you know what I mean.
And it's so refreshing when you find someone that's like,
they're pretty good, and then you like see them live,
and they're just, they're better.
You know?
Inqueade.
Yeah.
Without all the...
I've really kind of fallen back into more acoustic stuff,
or acoustic covers from the original artist of their songs.
It just feels a lot more authentic,
less processed.
Agreed, depends on my mood,
but I feel what you're saying, for sure.
There's one other thing that I wanna do quickly,
and it'll be quick,
because it's not a very in-depth story,
but I had met, so I was talking to Matthew
right before we started recording that I was driving up here from Southern Indiana this
morning. My voice is really starting to go, we'll make this quick. And it was the July
21st episode, and on that episode I told a story of a date that I had just gone on. Oh, yeah.
But I didn't actually tell a story.
I basically just teased it and said when the timer's right, that I tell it.
I'm glad I picked that episode to really listen to this morning because otherwise,
I would say what have forgotten because it's been-
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whatever app platform I was on at the time.
We went on one date to a Mexican restaurant
down by a private gamble.
Oh, it's a big gamble.
But I-
Mexican's always a gamble, especially for his first time.
I say go bigger, go home.
Oh boy.
And I went big at the Mexican restaurant,
and then we went back to her home.
So you hit both.
Yeah, that's how you know you're having a good time.
So we have dinner, and the date is,
the chemistry is like, okay, it's not like, oh my god,
I need to be out of here.
I also would have gotten out of there.
It also wasn't like, this is happening super well.
How bad is the chemistry?
Like you asked a question and she responds.
So this was in a string of first dates
and went out with a couple of different girls who just talked
so much.
OK.
But there's a difference between talking so much
and that being OK or talking so much
and sharing every single minute detail in a story.
And if it's like we've been married and you're doing that, like, okay, whatever,
but you're telling me about all these people and all these places and all these
things that I've never heard of, and you're being very specific to tell me first
names and just stuff that like...
You're not ready for that.
Rather than say, and then my friend did this you say in Andre
Did this and I couldn't believe Rachel. I were like and I don't know who Rachel or Andre are
And I feel like I don't even know I wasn't say that's not like nice people but really I didn't get gather much and I don't even
I don't like a second date type. Yeah, and I have no knew for like 10 minutes. So
This is the whole new world anyways
for like 10 minutes so this is a whole new world anyways. The day was going okay and we were by her apartment so I figure at the very least I'm gonna walk her back and then I'll walk
home. Normal stuff because I was literally going that way anyways. So we start walking back,
we're still having conversation and on the street we run into two girls who I didn't know.
Turns out she had just moved in with them.
So the three of them were living together,
but she was a stranger to them.
So they knew each other, the two girls.
I don't know.
But yeah.
But she clearly already had good chemistry with them.
So she starts talking to them, and we're just like standing on there in the sidewalk.
So wait, were you introduced or no?
So it wasn't introduced, which was a little regret flag.
Yes, I'm just like standing there by her while she's talking.
So then she's like, oh, yeah, are you guys going back to the house?
And they, yeah, they were, and we were too.
So we all walk back, still having been introduced
to these people, these roommates.
So she's named Rappin, like Andre, and what's your name, Raquel?
Sure.
But she doesn't even, you don't pick up the names
of the people that are right in front of you.
We got no introductions.
No introductions.
OK, that's rough.
OK.
So we approach her house. And at this point. No interactions. Okay, that's rough. Okay. So we approach
your house and at this point, I really don't know what's going on because one, having been introduced to,
I don't really want to like go in there because just because like I was very satisfied with what
had happened and I think it was a work night. So, and you know, two mile walk home,
understandably it'd be time to work at home.
It's a Mexican, yeah.
And so no words, she in the room
it's just start walking up the stairs
and the apartment, so I'm like, well, I, okay,
I guess I'm coming in.
And so we all go in there and I just sit down
on the couch right in the landing and she said,
look, I'm going to go upstairs and get changed.
I think she had come from work or something.
And so I'm sitting down in the living room and now it's just me getting the tube roommates.
And so I then I introduce myself because it's like, oh, and high on this guy who's been
walking next to you for the past 15 minutes.
Did he literally have no idea who you were up until this point?
No.
They didn't even know that you just were on a date with their room.
No, they knew I was there and that's about it.
Oh, man.
And so we start having conversation.
It turns out they're way better at conversation than she was.
And they're also more attractive. Let's just leave it at that. Okay alert. I was just dropped. Yeah, so we ended up
I was just sitting there living room and we were having good conversation and then the original girl comes down
And she joins in and everything's fine
After probably like half an hour sitting there. I was really like okay need to get out of here and
After probably like half an hour sitting there, I was really like, okay, I need to get out of here. And I had mentioned on the earlier podcast that it's similar to a signed filled episode,
because I was thinking at the time of maybe trying to pull off a double switch like in baseball.
Although this would have been two for one instead of just one for one.
If you could have even handled that.
And then this is the type of, if there's a movie that just
cuts to black right in the middle of the third act,
and that's it, because I went on vacation
and I never texted her back.
And then I started talking to my new lady.
And that was the end of the story.
Does your new quote unquote, new lady,
did she listen to your podcast?
She sure does not.
No.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
So we can, you know, badmouth her all along.
So if this down the line becomes serious,
and she goes back digging.
Well, I mean, I'm not really worried about anything.
Yeah.
Did you say something well as in the bathroom
that I need to know about?
No.
This is, I think, podcast 38 maybe.
And for the first time ever, someone else had full control
over the podcast for, you know what?
And I should have taken a little more advantage of that
than I did.
I wasn't preparing for that.
How's your bladder feel now?
All right.
OK. I'm ready.
I'm preparing.
For all the doctors out there, is there a science behind the fact
that you have to pee more when you're sick?
Or is it just because you drink more?
And you're not.
Maybe you think.
It's, yeah, well, I'm going to go again.
So you got another minute of platform
that are going to come back and wrap up.
With the same type of story.
I remember, so I've known Quint a long time.
And we used to throw back to the days
when we were line judges for volleyball.
So Quint and I were great at line judging.
You give us a flag.
And my sisters played volleyball, and sort of had sister
played volleyball as well.
They play on the same team.
And we would, because we were there, we were supportive brothers.
We would be line judges.
So the ball ends on the line, you know, if it was out, you whip that flag out.
And you tell the main ref that it's out.
But we were very good at what we did.
All the refs loved us, I think.
And there was a tournament in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
And Quinn wrote along with my family.
And we get there.
And I guess Quinn will have to explain
when he comes back from finishing up his business.
But he did not go to the bathroom.
I think it was the two days that we were there.
And he, I know this is not healthy.
I have since learned.
I mean, like I had an idea that it was not,
but he had to pee so bad,
but he was determined to set a record for how long he could hold it.
And I think the last day is when he finally, I don't want to say burst, but he gave in and he could not hold it anymore.
And Quincy, was it two days that you didn't go to the bathroom and walk your shop?
One or number two.
Okay, can you go number two without going number one?
I can't.
I can go number two without going number one.
Wow.
It's very uncomfortable.
I would never do it.
But I could.
It's just natural to go number one when you go number two.
Yeah, it's a package deal.
It's a package deal.
For my package.
That's too much. The best joke of the podcast came 58 minutes in.
Is that what we're at? 50. Yeah, we're doing well. Oh, man.
We talked about a lot. Liam Neeson. We talked about risk for a solid
10 minutes. I don't know what we've entire for the best 20 minutes, but we talked
about it. You're in a relationship.
You're in a relationship.
You're in a relationship.
What were you talking about when I was in Walker Shot?
Our line judge.
We didn't even touch on our line judging career that we retired from.
There's two areas of Quinn's life that he really has an aired much on the podcast, and
that's his, we're pretty good at line judging for volleyball.
We're fantastic at line judging.
And then also two-man volleyball.
Yeah, we dominated the the grad party circuit and it can recall plenty of grad
parties and lakes, summer, set days where we cleaned up
Yeah, and people we started to become pretty
infamous in our circle of
private homeschooled Christian conservative friends the only game that we almost lost that was a close one
I think we we like lost it and we said
Like give us 10 more points.
What happened was...
How did that work?
We played, remember how hot it was outside this day?
Oh, man.
It's like summer set.
No, this is a different thing.
It was so hot there, though.
It was hot there.
We still won that game, no problem.
There was a game right here in your backyard. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was crazy hot, but we ended up using that to our advantage,
where it was you and me versus presumably your three sisters.
Yeah, it might have been your sister as well.
I don't remember.
Maybe, I'm not sure.
But we played the first game.
Is that how they're organized things valuable
First set are there no games and variables that just set and then the whole thing so
Set the match that sounds right so I
Think we played the first set and lost which was an uncommon thing for us. And so we said, best out of three.
And they took it.
So at that point, it's out of our hands.
They decided they're free.
And then did we end up, was it just three
or did we end up stretching it to five?
I think we won two, and they might have complained.
So we did five.
Does that sound right?
Five didn't look a lot.
But remember, but we lost the first game,
which was uncommon, and we said, hey, let's do an action one,
and they could have said no, and then our reputation
would have been ruined.
But they decided to take us up on our offer,
and we came back and probably got some heat exhaustion,
but worth it anyways.
But yeah, I can recall at least one time
at Lake Somerset where it was way too hot
and just spending the next half hour by the water cooler.
But then you end up having chips and cookies and stuff
and the hydration just isn't enough.
And then you have to pee every 15 minutes like I had.
Well, I don't think that was a problem back then.
I think it's, you've turned a corner, maybe it's your age.
It's just when I become sick.
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but I really do feel like I pee a lot more when I get cold than when I am just being normal.
Yeah, you've spending the day with you today.
You drink more water today than I have probably all of 2018.
Yeah, and that's only because of a sore throat.
I mean, because it helps.
I'm not a healthy person.
Quite a bit, but I mean, even before today, on average,
day like I almost have almost no water because
I need more little coffees throughout the work day.
And that's water.
It's just filtered.
Yeah, I suppose.
Through God's gorgeous beans. God's beans. Yeah. And then for dinner, I might have some water
button, usually having a beer or something too. So yeah, I don't know, it's been an interesting
day. Always a frustrating day when you finally know you're
getting sick. I've been doing really well on this road trip so far and hopefully it's
a little short thing and it's done by the middle of this next week. I don't know, they tend
to stick around for an entire week though, which would not be clutch because I have to do
a conference at the tail end of this week. So where would you pick up your sickness? Do
you deal with like sick children?
I mean, I say that. That sounds worse than a minute. I spend a lot of time with children's
hospital. And I have a cold. Well, a couple things. Number one, I tend to get on average
probably three colds a year. And that's just the norm for me. And so this would be in line with, you know,
because I don't typically get one in the summer,
but I'll always get one in the winter for sure.
And typically one in the spring,
it just kind of randomly pops up,
sometimes associated with allergies.
And then not always, but sometimes one in the fall too.
And this is just my fall one, I guess.
The other thing though is I do spend my days going from high school to high school, and
shaking hands and stuff, and I'm also, I'm way worse at touching my face than I should
be, just like natural stuff.
I don't think it's necessarily nervous or anxiety related, it's just kind of how I function. But so that, yeah, I'm not doing myself any favors with the amount of 18-year-olds and
17-year-olds hands I shake and then inevitably, that stuff happens.
Can I ask about it on my upcoming generation?
What's the 18-year-olds, what are they called?
What's the next generation, Gen-Y?
I don't know.
It's a good question. So how are the handshakes? Are they pretty loose?
Pretty uh, most of them are pretty loose because a lot of the kids I talked to
are kind of the stereotypical nerds and most of them tend to not be as socially
up and coming. So occasionally you get some kids who try to strong arm,
you like Donald Trump, but yeah, the chainsaw motion.
I'm all about the lumberjack.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Exactly.
My handshake in general isn't amazing, though, either.
And this is my least favorite thing.
When I have a bad handshake with someone,
but it's because the grip is bad. And I never know whose fault that is. It's like, you
don't get all of the, you know, meaty part of the hand. It's like, does that mean I have
a bad handshake or do we just like not?
Sometimes you don't know what to do. Like went too far. Like you just grab kind of more
fingers than actual hand. Exactly. Yeah. And that's not who's fault is that, like, you know?
Yeah, I don't feel like that means I have a bad hand shake. I know my hand shake. My hand shake is fine,
but sometimes you don't, you know, you don't get a good grip. And then it's like this is just a
weird hand shake, but I don't think that means that I have a bad hand shake. Yeah. So I've been very
conscious. I've done the, this is kind of viewed as being too much.
Not assault too much, but like where you shake the hand and then your other hand just kind of like
taps the elbow or like the middle part of the arm.
Is that too much?
I thought that was like just kind of a nice...
Sometimes like if you're negotiating a nuclear peace
treaty or something, you can put your other hand on top
of the handshake.
That's a good move.
Maybe you could try that.
That seems very sincere.
Well, you seem like a sincere guy.
I try to be.
But touching their arm is probably all too forward.
I never touched the arm.
I never even think to do that. I probably wouldn't do it
Not to be sexist, but I probably wouldn't do it if it was a woman
Well, just cuz it's like I know Obama's title nine and stuff. I don't blame you. Yeah
I guess why is it different? Does it does it really make a difference? I don't know. It shouldn't. It does. It shouldn't.
This is a separate gender podcast that
I'll have to get an expert here for.
I heard that we're up to 86 genders now.
I haven't done the research on any of that.
I just heard the numbers floating around.
It is kind of baffling to me, though.
I'm eager, although I'll
forget to do it for a couple of other weeks, to read about then, try to understand what
all those different distinctions that they're claiming exist, because 86 is a lot more
than the two that we're used to.
That's so much. Okay, so if I say how many genders do humans have on the Google machine?
Let's see what comes up. It says
doesn't even say
Google's trying to walk that line, you know, it says 23 chrome
Well, that's chromosomes. That's not what we want to know. No, that's completely different
Oh, here's a list of the sexualities and their definitions.
I hope they're just one, two.
But sexualities is different than genders.
Like there's a very new and specific conversation about genders.
Yeah, I hope they're just genders.
Genders and sex.
Oh, there's a lot.
It's probably, it's probably.
Yeah.
What, what, I mean, what are they called?
We've got transmasculine, social dysphoria, body dys mean, what are they called? We've got transmasculine social dysphoria body dysphoria
butch
femae or fem
binaurin is or
yeah
binaurism
Transmantrans woman
Intersex transitioning gender, gender role.
This just looks like it's a addiction.
Yeah, I could have to read more about this later.
Someone who has a weak gender identification.
I think it's hard because what you end up getting to
is a, it's just, it's so easy to look at everything in life
in terms of like a scale.
Like I, personally, when you look at like mental illness,
I look at that on a scale.
Like I feel like I probably suffer
from variations of like, you know?
Yeah, I was gonna say.
I feel like everybody does.
It's not, no one's like the perfect human, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Not saying that if you have a mental illness, you're less than, you know, perfect.
But we're all just kind of somewhere here, you know?
There's not necessarily something all the way on one side and all the way on the other.
It's just kind of where you are.
You're right.
But I don't know. That's my gosh, this could get into really deep water pretty quickly
So I'm just shining around the outside, but yeah, we're on that side around the outside
Yeah, anything anything else you want a closing statement. Yeah, I'm just like model you in oh boy
We what was the last
Don't ask me. I don't know. I sucked. No, you didn't.
Who is the main person? The day is. That's like the list, that's like all the people. All the people.
There's, I don't know if it was like secretary or something. It's like a shared general or something.
Yeah, I look at my value and I think it was a great experience.
But also the kids around me were there
basically for not for a mile U.N.
You remember all the kids they would go
like when we had breaks they would just
head up to their hotel rooms with like
oh hey Canada I want to come to my
hotel room.
Oh, and other people always got candy grams, but I never
got candy grams.
I was bust in my ass just trying to preserve a world piece.
Well, we were kind of in a weird position between the kids
who are just there to be there and like having a good time.
And the other kids who were like really into it
and really good at it.
And we were kind of in between where we were doing our best,
but we weren't necessarily very good at it.
We were grinders.
We very much kind of respected the game
and respected the rules.
And in order to be really good at it,
you have to go a little cavalier, a little rogue.
And you have to go to private school, evidently.
Yeah, and be friends with every other person.
I mean, we went to a private school,
just not the same type of a little too private.
All for private.
But I feel like it was like us,
and then there was like a private school
where there was like half the people,
and they all knew each other. So they would team up with each other and lend polar bears and lions.
Yeah, you're right. There would be...
There's a lot of that going on.
In community there would be multiple or there would be a school that would have multiple
countries and that's a big advantage for just like building alliances and...
Especially when you have like two countries that should not be forming an alliance.
So you know in the real world, that's the other story.
It doesn't work out.
We spent a lot of time in preparation and stuff, and this was just my mom's philosophy
on it was, you know, actually like reading and doing research on countries and actual
real world things, which is the way it partially should be done, but also you know no one
else was doing that stuff. But so what it meant was we would go to these conferences and,
you know, complain about something going the way it is because that's not the way it's
supposed to be. Well, at the end of the day, amount of you and like many things in
high school is a game. And unless you play the game right, not necessarily right,
but the best way aggressively. Yeah, then you're not going to necessarily
succeed by a certain metric in which you might receive an award.
Although with all that being said, Jack won multiple awards.
So he had to figure it out.
Yeah, he knew what he was doing more than any of us.
And he did model you in college for a couple of years.
Yeah, that's true.
He was better at that stuff than any of us. But fun nonetheless,
yeah, teaming up with Barbados and Canada when you're from Wanda and stuff. No, it's
a classic partnership. There's some history there between someone that we went to
my love you and with in Canada. Oh, really? Yeah. What did I say his name? First initial,
Oh really? Yeah. What do I say his name?
First initial maybe.
It's so obvious.
Is it the last one?
Yeah.
I don't know. You often tell me the story after. I know who we're talking about now,
but I don't know the the relationship.
You just had a huge crush on this.
Oh, you're right. Now I don't remember that. I mean, that's a deep pull.
I wouldn't have ever ever been. I remember that.
I said that. You know, it's too bad. I don't think that ever pinned out. But he's listening right now, so I'm not that worried about.
Yeah, but he saw the squirrel and she was from Canada. Oh Canada. Oh, can you still wake him up every morning by blasting? Oh, Canada.
Yeah. Oh, man, if you remember that, there's so many more stories that could come with this
You're being between two pillows
Is that the model you and story though? Is that just plain strange and honorable deals? Well, it was there's a reference, but we had to share a bed because
Nice and I think we made Andy Thompson sleep on the floor
What a true guy.
And then, oh, it's just too bad.
No, Quinn and I shared a bed.
And then it was, I think it was Zach and Andy.
And Andy said, I'll sleep on the floor.
Because you didn't want to share a Zach or something.
Quinn and I were masculine enough to be like, yeah,
just stay on your side.
We're the nice, close. We knew, just stay on your side with a nice
club.
We knew each other well.
Yeah, nice pillow barrier.
Yeah.
I don't remember really anything from that very first one at U of I.
Most of my memories are attached to the Palmer House.
Yeah, but I know you were only there for one of those. I had three of them.
Yeah, I was only there for one. The other one was just kind of a weird historical.
What committee were you even in?
I was doing like the Ottoman Empire.
Okay. Reconnecting that.
Yeah. We were.
Oh, you there was a yeah, because there was I don't know what the near the conference was, yeah, because there was, I don't know what the near the conference was, but it was like,
no, the actual, the actual historical meeting, it was like, because it happened in Berlin in like the
1970s and they split up Africa. So you had that one and I was League of Nations like 1929 or something.
Did it a weird like throwback type thing? Which I kind of didn't like because none of it went as.
No.
Yeah.
Don't be put in the suit.
In my room, I don't know what yours looked like,
but mine was just like a regular,
it was terrible.
Like 30 seat college classroom.
And you know what?
That was probably, I might have been
the same type of room then, because we were in a very small room
with terrible desks.
So squeaky.
Yeah.
Then I remember
Italy was just like two college prep guys who were pretty much dressed exactly like I
you'd think they would be and half the girls were in love with them and that's pretty much
how they swayed the room and the people in charge just didn't care.
So think about it.
It's a bunch of like 19 year old U of I students running.
The four-moam levels are Russian and Russian.
Russian and Gussian.
With desk full of fire, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, good times.
Good times.
Fresh head memories from that.
Yeah. good times, fresh head memories from that.
Yeah, I was the only ever person to do four years of Halström, I'll you and because it only existed for four
years. I only did two. It was two, right? Yeah, I was
there too. Yeah, you were one of the OGs. It was fun. Yeah,
spent a lot of time in our basement like practicing and stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. Good times. Okay. You got anything else you want to throw in here before we
Yeah, we're up to 77 minutes. 77 minutes? Yeah. I'll probably go for 80, right?
We talked about a lot.
Been all over the place.
I would say, if you've made it that far good for you,
keep supporting the B-Time podcast.
I think it's a worthwhile endeavor.
I haven't missed an episode.
That's good.
I might not listen to this one.
At least not for a while, because I know everything that
is good. It's going to be a good episode. This is gonna be a fun one to listen back to
because you just talked about a lot of funny things. A lot of random stuff. Sometimes that's the
best. But as far as like adding any knowledge and parting any knowledge or parting thoughts,
I don't have too much. Yeah well I've gone like nine months without any good knowledge or so.
I think that's a good knowledge.
Don't feel bad about one episode.
If you would like to follow me on the Insta Chat, on the Twitter Graham, it's pretty
much just my name.
Sometimes you throw a T in there, though.
Yeah.
Do you know what my middle name is?
I sure do.
Well, I probably shouldn't say it on the hear though
That's probably fine, right? I
Don't know. I don't want anyone coming after you. Okay. That's fine. Yeah after after the bean town unplugged
I don't know
Musical in a bit yeah, all 45 of my personal Facebook friends who viewed the video are gonna be going nuts.
I think it went up, I think it's 56.
Oh, that's pretty good.
I haven't checked.
Let's look at the analytics, actually, this.
And I only got two hate messages.
That's pretty good.
That's a decent ratio.
Yeah, that's better than I normally do.
But yeah, I'm out.
That's all I got.
Good, actually.
All right. Well, thanks again to Matthew for coming on the podcast.
Any time. Doing a concert on the fly with us and letting me
you stake out in his basement and let me do my laundry here.
You don't have to sleep down here, by the way.
Well, I'm so comfortable now.
It just doesn't really matter because I'm just
going to crash very soon anyways.
Although, here's the thing.
Should I fold my laundry before I fall asleep?
Is it, does it have the ability to be wrinkled?
Oh, yeah.
Then probably, yeah. Yeah, so I'm gonna have to pick myself up off
I'll help you fold not your underwear
Or your socks too far. That's like all it is
Why are you worried about being wrinkled?
I want my undisturbed. I mean like I guess I don't know. I got a couple pairs of khakis and some poles in there
I will go full bit
You can't see this now because we only last shined the concert.
But we are both more or less lying down on separate couches here.
That's how much energy we have left.
Just looking up at this guy.
I mean, we're already into the next day.
It's past midnight.
Is it really?
Yeah, it's not where my glass is, but yeah.
Yeah, 1215.. Yeah I am wiped. I was up at 7
this morning. It was about a six hour drive up here and we played some call of duty, explored some
virtual reality. Oh yeah. Quinn's pretty good at that. You picked up on that pretty quick. Yeah
Yeah, give me a couple extra, you know years and I would get better at it, but did some skateboarding action
Got some sick videos and pictures. Oh, yeah, etc
let's look at those later. Yeah, and
Eat some food and
and ate some food and did you catch that? Well here's what we needed.
We needed a spoon in the pan to capture some of that sauce
because what I ended up happening was there was a lot of good sauce
that just wasn't used for anything.
That sauce was good to like lay it all over some of the potatoes. That's why I did the dip dip before I...
So I was on to that.
So everything would have been fine
if we would have been able to ladle some of that premium sauce
on to or into something, but it's okay.
It was still good.
Chicken meat can be tricky.
That's true.
It tasted really good on the outside.
It was a little dry on the inside.
It wasn't egregious, though.
This is a great job.
Yeah.
Office quotes never stop around here.
They really don't.
They had to give more girls apparently.
No, I don't give a start.
I don't give them.
Oh, geez.
Final four words.
I won't spoil it for you.
But new life.
OK, let's end this.
So I can go full my laundry and so I can go to bed.
They desperately need.
Because guess what?
Got another three to four hour drive tomorrow.
That's just my life now.
What's the, yeah, I was a podcast scheduled for next week.
Next week, we will be unique.
We'll be podcasting from an entirely brand new state.
The plan is Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Oh yeah, yeah, my four.
I don't know, I think it was driving to live in life.
Yeah, I just live in life.
I too have driven through Sioux Falls,
although I know nothing about the city.
So we'll see, that's the schedule, or that's the plan right now.
It'll be in between.
Hashtag you need some traveling?
Yeah, unique week. Absolutely.
Thanks again, Everett, for listening.
You can find us on Twitter at WhiteBuns.
I already went through the email.
It's WhiteBuns with a Z by the way.
WhiteBuns with a Z by the way. White Bonds with a Z.
Yeah.
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You won't believe this, but I got a pee again.
And so I would say,
I see, and here's the thing,
that was the water that I had at the start.
So it's not just a matter of drinking more.
It can't be that way.
I don't know.
Do you retain water?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about this stuff.
The last science class I ever took in my life was ap Physics, my senior of high school.
And we need to talk about water retention in AP Physics, F equals MA.
Worth, excuse me, you mix the letters
around, and a Graham style.
It's fam.
Fam.
Fam.
So, WAM, bam, thank you, fam.
Thank you for listening to the podcast.
And we'll come to you
live next week from Sioux Falls. All right, have a good one, everyone.