Bein' Ian With Jordan - Bein' Ian With Jordan Episode 033 : Cuss Free Zone W/ Worst Possible Timeline

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Telling jokes and having smokes Riding bikes all through the night It's a wild ride When you're being Ian Coffee ice no matter what Now you know he likes it in the butt It's a wild ride When you're being Ian
Starting point is 00:00:24 Being Ian Life is shit but you're positive let's find out what it's like to live a life being ian being ian with jordan We'll see you. I get to see the crew. And even better, I get to see you two. And you two are Eric and Patrick from Worst Possible Timeline. And Drug Church. Yes. I love Drug Church.
Starting point is 00:01:23 We love Drug Church. Thank you. We don't love Eric. It's fine. Eric, earn your keys. Yes, also true. I love Drug Church. We love Drug Church. Thank you. We don't love Eric. It's fine. Eric, earn your keys. We do love Eric. So there's a reason, there's a very important reason that I'm here, and it's because you did a podcast recently with a mutual friend of ours, and they couldn't use a single moment of it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Why? You know what I'm talking about? I got into some race science. So this guy is here to monitor. Did you pull out a head some race science. So this guy is here to monitor. Did you pull out a head measurer? This guy is here to monitor me a little bit. He's my handler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, handler. That's a good word. Real quick. Real quick. Speaking of handler. I want to say things that I'm not allowed to say because YouTube is demonetizing us. That's the thing. YouTube is getting crazy with stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:02 So we've got to do a. But they gave him Colin's podcast back That's great Our friend got it nuked and then he got it back So what we have to do I've read up on it the first 10 minutes No cuss cuss no bad words No awful things
Starting point is 00:02:15 So we just got to have It'll be the kid corner Where we just got to talk PG stuff Why the first 10 minutes that's what the chat bots are checking And then literally at 1001 we can be like fuck yeah yeah okay bleep that bleep mark a bleep on this topic yeah did you notice how when okay tiktok comes out right first of all no no we i know where this is going and we can't talk about it for 10 minutes. I'm going to mention.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I'll write it down. I can say what I'm about to say. You can't silence me. I know the rules. I'm not going to say that. All right. It's a little concerning. Wildly concerning.
Starting point is 00:02:57 What's going on? But here's all I'm saying. Tick tock. The rules that came out. We were like, all right, we're not going to use that. That's crazy. We're all in this other thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Then the pandemic. And we're all being pitched TikTok. You can't even say it. I can say it. We're all being picked in the thing. OK. And then the rules are coming out. We're like, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And then a conference Instagram. And it's like community guidelines. You're like, what are those? And then you're like, that's strange. We get shadow banned a couple of times. And then now community now on YouTube. And I'm just saying, all of this started, TikTok, pandemic.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And this word. And at 10 minutes, I'm popping off. I'm trying to lose my mind. I set the timer for 10 minutes. Okay, up, time. The TT word wasn't working until the pandemic, had the pandemic happened from one of the TT.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You can't even say that word. Don't suggest it. Every time she says that P thing, you pop it. What P thing? Hesh. Sexual. No, you can't even say the S word. Okay, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:59 This is bringing it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ABC. And we're also going to get into your little why you couldn't be on the podcast. This is wholesome content how did you guys meet how did you start your podcast okay so Eric has
Starting point is 00:04:13 some story about how we met and connected I don't remember that at all that's amazing but that's just because I meet a lot of people but whatever somehow we ended up at my house and we started just recording podcasts at first the focus was just the most niche sort of no swear word which is uh good niche is racist yeah well so niche a yeah philosophy that fella so uh we started just
Starting point is 00:04:39 watching all of the wwe made films like i don't know if you're aware of this, but WWE has their hand in the production of very low-rent Redbox features. Oh, do I know. Oh, like the John Cena. Yeah. Yes. Jericho, my man. Those would be on the high end.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah. Bro, can I just interject real quick? One of my first, like, real carpentry jobs, we did a gig, we did a job at a guy's house, and their son was, was like obsessed with the military and he like did ROTC, but like the big secret was like, he's not going to get in.
Starting point is 00:05:13 He's a little wee-wee, but his wall was covered with John Cena. What was it called? Like the Navy. The Marine. Yes. It was just the Marine posters everywhere and it was like walking into Ray Finkel's room from Ace of Terror. Yes. It was just the Marine posters everywhere.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And it was like walking into Ray Finkel's room from Ace of Terror. Whatever. Proton Pack. Proton Pack. Gooby guy. Shut the hell up, dude. You're exactly that dude. His name's Slimer. His name's Slimer.
Starting point is 00:05:37 You're the same guy. No, I'm not. Because in line with the Marine and everything is like, oh, army stuff. Oh, in the line with Ghostbusters, I'm gay boy. Sorry. I don't think we can say that word for another eight minutes. We love gay boys. But is gay boy okay for you two?
Starting point is 00:05:53 We made it okay because she said gay boys are good. Gay boys, we love gay boys. I'm a gay boy. My mom's a lesbian. That's what we should start everyone. I have three lesbian mothers raised in a progressive family. And I've measured every man's wiener with my throat.
Starting point is 00:06:08 No, you can't say that you suck dick. You just said it. So firstly, for that kid, I hope that you suggested a militia. Because that's what you do
Starting point is 00:06:18 when you can't do the art. A metal militia. Yeah, I mean, you just join a paramilitary, you know what I mean? You go into the woods with some fellas. Oh my God, it's so fun.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I think he's a cop now. That's the other option, I guess. We started doing that podcast and then we found that these movies are really painful. There's nothing to talk about. They're just shitty movies. Uniformly bad.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Bad movies. What did he say? The S word. YouTube. Right? Bad movies. What did he say? The S word. YouTube is like the fucking PACS. You can swear. You can't say hate speech. No, no. You can't swear.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's swearing, too. It's like the PACS network. It's now become like the... It is the PACS network. It's the game of lava. Yeah, it's... We're playing the game. Things are escalating.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's crazy. We're adults. Fuck. Shit. Bitch. You fucking bitch. Stop, stop, stop, stop. You're a're adults. Stop, stop, stop. You're a whore. Jordan, literally.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I'm not going to be contained. Bitch, fucking idiot. You called me and you were like, that's Colum's channel. That's not what I said. I said we're moving over to fucking Rumble because we're being censored and fuck this fucking shit. YouTube was the one place where we were allowed to have free speech.
Starting point is 00:07:24 This is not good that she's doing have free speech, piece of shit. This is not good that she's doing this. Fuck that. Listen, listen, listen. Are you kidding me? We're not going to. You know what? You're right.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I want an idiot. And everyone that goes, free speech, free speech. You're saying it on a platform that's cutting off your free speech. You don't even know it. You don't even know it. We're moving to Rumble. Eat my fucking ass.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. And fuck your wife. Yeah. And fuck your wife. And then we're doing a big live pod down in D.C. January 6th. Let's go. For insurance only. And this is all China's fault.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I don't care anymore. No, it's all China's fault. Why do you think COVID came out from there? And at the same time, the vaccine made me worse. The vaccine made me worse. She's clotting. I haven't stopped bleeding out of my pussy since I got the goddamn Pfizer, you pieces of shit.
Starting point is 00:08:09 My friend lost her baby because of the shot. It's dark. Listen, now that she's opened the seal, let's talk about it. Before I talk about my open seal, my seal's been open since goddamn Moderna entered my fucking bloodstream. And speaking of seal, that ain't no kiss from a rose. It's all right. We can talk about the vaccine brain cloud now. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So we've realized the thing. That we listen to old podcasts of ourselves where we were sharp, almost like presentable broadcasters nearly. Yeah. Could follow each other's line of thought and quickly arrive someplace. Make little. Yeah. Oh, I'm on it.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah. No more. Now it's like talking to two dudes like wet brain alcoholics at the VFW. Yeah. Like just dudes that can't follow your train of thought. They interrupt each other with gibberish. We'll be in the middle of a thing and be like, and that's why...
Starting point is 00:09:11 I do think that is because of the phones. The pandemic put you in a phone. It's because of Johnson & Johnson. But Johnson & Johnson, you mean... We got the J&J. Oh, you got the J&J. We are mentally retarded and we had different ones.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I think... But that's why you're bleeding. Yes. It's different strokes for different folks, different vaccines for different ailments. You know what I mean? What happened? I forgot.
Starting point is 00:09:38 As soon as they gave us... See? No, no. I thought his face was palsied from the fucking vaccine. As soon as we got... As soon as COVID said... First of all, I would just like to say in New York City, the first thing that was removed during COVID was the basketball hoops. What about your pride?
Starting point is 00:09:51 What is that? My pride instantly out of there. You're right. First thing out the door. March 12th, gone. Then they tell us, they go, yo, we've been pushing this thing. By the way, TikTok was like this. Remember that being sent to you?
Starting point is 00:10:02 And you're like, what is this scary thing? It was like a woman like this that remember that being sent to you and you're like what is this scary thing where it was like a woman like this when the white house got tiktok influencers to spread their information let's get into it now yeah we're getting to it this is our this is the water that's insane and everybody's like well it's coming from biden it's fine it's like no they're disseminating their propaganda and fuck communism okay okay i i just i i just want to put this in perspective you're you're setting a you're setting wheels in motion yeah and by the end of this you're gonna have us yelling like a fat one fauci and like you know i mean so like good get good let loose we're in a major league. So many podcasts I go on, so many podcasts go, hey, if you could talk to your childhood self, what would you say?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Do you have any regrets? I go, it's not worth living in regret because that stuff weighs you down. And the only regret you could ever have is living in regret. You just got to live in the present and move forward. What? Sober talk. This is sober talk. Totally.
Starting point is 00:11:03 But you want to know my one regret? I don't like the game. Taking the Fauci algae. Shouldn't have done it. So regarding that, that's what they call it. Saying goodbye to the YouTube money. They just put water into flu shots. Here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:11:14 They said, you're taking the flu shot. There's water in the flu shots. We get the flu shot. We all get sick. People die, as they always do every year. And they go, no, this is COVID. They lock us in our houses. They pump us into the phones. they control our brains they control our language
Starting point is 00:11:27 they control everything we think and we want and we feel they say nah it's just tiktok we say tiktok we can get on this this is helping then instagram then youtube now there's no free speech and now you're using sa right instead of instead of rape you're using sa because that's what unalived myself. It's these code words. Unalived? Dead is the one thing that happens to all of us and I can't fucking say it? Wait, wait. What is this essay?
Starting point is 00:11:51 TikTok. Sexually abused. Yes. Oh, so. I don't like that. I thought it was essay because Mexicans rape people. You know what? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That was fun. Okay. All right. Sorry. Sorry. You know, like, watch out for the essays. We're at the race science. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And now we call rape essays. Now we call it the cholo. You know what I mean? That's what rape is now. So here's the thing. You guys. What? I'm joking here.
Starting point is 00:12:20 No, I'm kidding. No, no, no. Excuse me. Listen, this is the blessing. What are they going to take away? Your gig at St. Vitus? Shut up. So here's the blessing, Your gig at St. Vitus? Shut up. So here's the blessing, right?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Live St. Vitus. Yes. Yeah, buy a ticket. So here's the blessing. It's going to come out after that, I think. You two as comedians, right? Yeah. You have the plausible deniability of, these are jokes, my man.
Starting point is 00:12:39 They are jokes. Yeah, but not, mine aren't jokes. What? So here's the problem. So here's the problem. So here's the problem. Like, and I run into this my whole life. I'm sure you've met these people that are pretty funny, entertaining people, but there's just too much, like, you're like, I think he's being serious.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And then you don't like him. You know what I mean? Or your friends don't like him or whatever it is. That's my curse is that there's something to my tone where it's not funny enough to be funny. But you're not joking. I'm not joking. You know who's like that? the all the listen everybody i fucking know i get it you fucking colbert watchers you're gonna be mad i get it but yeah on the vaccine but but on the vaccine shit
Starting point is 00:13:16 nah i'm not joking man yeah yeah i'm not joking i don't care if you want to take the vaccine that's fine the requirement is insane requiring anybody to do anything is insane. I mean, we have a friend who's like liberal as fuck. And she's, I mean, we like almost lost our friendship because she was, I was like, dude, I'm going to the cellar. This Omicron thing. Every single person has it. Who?
Starting point is 00:13:37 I can't. No, no, no. Just me and her friend. I'm like, everybody's sick. Everybody has a tiny little sickness. I'm not going to stop going to work. That's what's crazy because I was just in LA and yo, there are people walking alone
Starting point is 00:13:52 on the street in mass alone in the car in mass and I'm like, you're mentally ill. Being a hardcore show with masks on while the lead singer is being like, and you're like, when we were at American Nightmare it was weird. American Nightmare!
Starting point is 00:14:07 All masks. So weird. Go ahead. Sorry. This is where I get like really unfunny. Do it. You want me to get unfunny? You say we'll funny it up. Okay please. Go. Good dynamic. We're leaving YouTube. Follow us on Rumble. We're going to discuss their rates later. Right now you guys should
Starting point is 00:14:24 be backing everything up on Rumble because this is probably the episode to make it go boom. Yeah. So regarding the vaccine shit or the mask shit, rather, or any of that. We're at 1050. Say it. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's all China. It's all fucking China. It's all China. That's the word I wrote down. Oh my God. I had no idea. It's not the people. It's the government, man.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Yeah, people have a hard time with those two, I guess. And Trump. I was raised by three lesbians, very liberal later over here. What word did Trump say the most while he was in office? China. Sure. So we'll get into the three lesbians. I don't even understand shit anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, sorry. It's a lot. It's a lot of lesbians. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Well, okay. So we were talking about going to hardcore shows, whatever. Now, I've been a little disappointed, right,
Starting point is 00:15:11 with kind of a collectivist streak within the circles I'm in, like punk and hardcore music and whatever, where if somebody says, yeah, I'm not with that vaccine, people are jumping on them like they're, as though they have the mentality of like a like boomer libs where they're like just like descending on them cnn style about and it's like listen i'm very sympathetic to somebody that's like hey the greater good here would be to get the vaccine it's a responsible thing to do right this is all this
Starting point is 00:15:39 is all we can have that conversation so i'm very very open to it but like at least for myself um if you're not vaxxed you're gonna you could get sick why do y'all why do i give a fuck listen don't even get into that the science is clear everybody everybody no but people are just in denial if they don't yeah now they came out they're like immunity's fine right but regarding regarding the response like just the the the kind of group dynamic response to a thing, right, is like I personally, a big part of how I've matured or become an adult is as a young person, you're supposed to be, and this is why your communism shit online was funny. As a young person, you're supposed to be highly individualistic to the point that you're selfish. you're supposed to be highly individualistic to the point that you're selfish and if you don't go through that that's like when that's why like young men are like Ayn Rand is appealing to them right it's because that's that time in your life that where you're supposed to be particularly
Starting point is 00:16:35 about your own personal achievement and then you have kids and you're like oh shit I'm gonna feed these fucking things and then you start you're like communism sounds all right right but like if you're not on some like hey fuck, fuck the government for telling me, if the government tells me what to do, I'll do the opposite, even if it's against my best interest. If they're telling me to brush my teeth, I'm going to rot them out of my fucking face. That's, that's supposed to be part of who, of your developmental, your maturation process. And if you skip right to Colbert, you're fucking fucked, man. Like if you go from 16 to Colbert yeah no good yeah
Starting point is 00:17:05 and and being friends with your parents and agreeing politically and like that's crazy and what they disagree with now is the stuff that like we had our buddy Butterly on the other day who's great comedian he's like he's like my kid is in school and like basically they're like any
Starting point is 00:17:22 ailment any any existential crisis a child has they're like, are you sure you're not trans? So their rebellion against parents now is not anti. It's like, my parents suck because they won't let me get a sex change. But that in and of itself is punk rock now. That is the new revolt. I mean, I'll say it. Well, I just wanted to say to your point, you were like, as a young person individual la la la and then you get kids you're on communism i would push back and
Starting point is 00:17:50 be like i feel like when you're younger you're like we're on it together you find your crew you find your people and then you start to individualize out in terms of like like especially when you have a family you're like fuck anything that doesn't protect these people. But you're still like, okay, so when I took a vacation with my girlfriend, everybody, this is an important part of it, to Cambodia. That's why it's important to say- Was it a holiday in Cambodia? It was a holiday in Cambodia, but again, with my partner, just because when you go to Southeast Asia, you have to say, hey, everybody, I'm not-
Starting point is 00:18:23 I didn't rent a Thai boy. Oh, I put one say, hey, everybody. I didn't rent a Thai boy. I put one of them on layaway. Still going around the carousel at the airport. Daddy! God, I missed you. So we went to Cambodia, and I'm talking to the guy that's driving us around, right? And I'm like, oh, it's the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Vaccine injury. Okay. No. All right. Sorry. I said to this fella, you know, we're getting comfortable. We've been together for a number of days. He's like our driver. And I say, if you don't mind me asking you're like the most
Starting point is 00:19:05 entrepreneurial person i've ever met in my life you've been banging me for like way too much money every day like with no fear of embarrassing yourself by asking for like a hundred dollars for something that costs 12 so like how how did you people get sold into communism on on the shit and he goes he goes a lot of us were poor. And then this guy came around and said, you might be less poor. And we said, it's worth a shot. And now here's the thing. Five million dead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stacks of skulls. That's how the fucking, that's how the Holocaust happened. Hitler came around and was like, I can fix the economy. People go, you know what? Yeah. I could use
Starting point is 00:19:46 new shoes. I've heard worse pitches. I could use new lampshades and so forth. It's getting dark. Sorry. It was terrible. Okay, but the neo-communists, like the Zizek, like I read a lot of Zizek. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I like him though because... Zizek rules. No, he's cool because he's like, here's what I think is cool that will never happen. Right. And his whole idea of like, look, if the government is going to be the overlord and if we have all of the access to manufacturing food, water needs, there is an easy way to just get every single person to living a living level. And I agree, but that'll never happen because the government has it's not because the government is because human beings don't have any saber-toothed tigers coming after them so we need work in order to stay alive we need to feel like we're suffering in order to scratch for something so if i make you flush that doesn't really work because then you're just going
Starting point is 00:20:41 to want more and then what more is is more food And then I'll take over the food. And then that's privatized. What needs to happen is that, I mean, I don't think what needs to happen, but I do think that just like social funding for programs, which is gay because it's democratic socialism, but it is the thing that has happened. I agree. I feel that way. But this whole
Starting point is 00:21:00 idea is, that will never happen. Wait, okay. Firstly, I want to interrupt and just say today i was at a fair filled in in harrisburg pennsylvania and in yikes i went yeah and i went downstairs to get my little oatmeal or whatever in the morning and there was two dudes in the lobby just overweight like just harrisburg passing through maybe i'm you know maybe my kids here that i'm not i only see like once every three months whatever the the fuck they were doing. They were having a discussion about Ukraine where it was painful how stupid they are. That's how we're going to sound
Starting point is 00:21:32 today. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Just so it's, just so it's understood. Oh, I'm an idiot. We don't understand anything. No, but I'm willing to understand and listen. But when everyone's attacking you and they're like, you're an idiot. And then they go into like seven paragraphs. I'm like, I don't. Yeah, I'm not reading all that. But so I don't know how something about I had something to say about vaccines. But fuck all this shit. Here's what we'll go to.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Oh, you were going back to Cambodia. Well, and how they how to me. OK, yes. But they're now like capitalist. Yeah, the capitalist is fucked. Yeah. But here's what I'm saying. Yes, you're correct that when you when you get a family you're kind of like anything all that matters is what's in this house and fuck everybody and you don't have the the unless you're
Starting point is 00:22:13 going to the elks club or some shit you don't have like a uh that sort of bond but this is why i'm in favor of not for communism join a gang join join a. Or if you're on the other side of that, become a cop. Whatever it is. But just smaller groups. You know what I mean? Smaller groups. Smaller groups. So just join a street gang.
Starting point is 00:22:33 You know what I mean? What are we on? We don't have to say the street name. But you join it. You find whoever. The Montrose Monsters. Find the monsters. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Join up. You know what I mean? We do need the, what is the mob called? What is that called? Mafia. No, I know. But what's it? It's called La Cosa Nostra. La Cosa Nostra So we do need, we do need the, what is the mob called? What is that called? Mafia. No, I know. But what's it? It's called La Cosa Nostra.
Starting point is 00:22:48 La Cosa Nostra. No, no, no, no, no. Organized crime. Okay. We need it. We do. We do. It's called the police.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You were going for a technical name. It's called the government. Yeah. Organized crime was, things were easier then. Well, you go. Okay. You're the guest. You go. Okay. You're the guest. You go.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Okay. Um, you go boss, uh, regarding the, the fight that you were getting in about communism or whatever. I was talking to a younger dude last night who was asking me about a, a meaning of a song.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And he was like, I can't really decide. Is it like, is it, it seems like it's, you mentioned marks in it. Is it pro communist against communist? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:23 it's like really pro don't give a shit. You know what I mean? But, but weist against communist? And I was like, it's like really pro-don't give a shit. You know what I mean? But we started talking about it, and I was like, so what's the vision? Because it's clear he's on some at least, if not communism, then kind of on the far end of socialism sort of thing. And he's like, you know, I just think that maybe a society where everybody contributes equally would bring up everybody's personal value
Starting point is 00:23:44 and the collective like uh quality of life and i said yeah and i'd like a bigger dick well okay i mean what are we doing here you really think that that can happen wait wait so i'm happy with my dick i got a home so i was saying okay but what about exceptional people, right? So what about a brain surgeon? Does a brain surgeon also have to do his, like, because I asked, how do you find the person that cleans the latrines, right? Like who has that job?
Starting point is 00:24:15 And he said, oh, like in a perfect society, we'd all swap out. You know what I mean? He doesn't even know. He literally just got off a wolfing farm or something. But here's my thing. Here's my thing. Oh, my God. Here's my thing. Is that a thing that we don't talk about enough, in my view, and this doesn't apply to me,
Starting point is 00:24:31 everybody. I'm mediocre as fuck. You know those, like, mediocre white men memes that were going around at the beginning of the pandemic? That's me. No. That's not you. You're fucking in one of the best bands of all time. You're great.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Mediocre. Mediocre. Listen. I don't know how you do that thing with your voice when you sing. I don't know how you do it. You're great. So hold on. Oh, stop. Do the Immortan Joe from Fury Road for me.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And then he goes, mediocre. So that's me. But here's my point in this, is that I don't see myself as an exceptional person. I'm not looking for any type of... Right, right. What about exceptional Right, right. What about exceptional people? Right?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Like, and that's my argument against kind of any collectivist mentality, whether it's. Well, that's Nietzsche. That's like when you get 21 and you read Nietzsche and it's like, don't let people hold you back. And you're like, oh, my God, don't. And then you get Dan Rand and you're like, oh, my God, no, I think I might be able to be exceptional. Oh, my God, I think I might. See, I'm on the other side. Not exceptional, but I'm still with it that somebody is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Well, I think that it's like there is something to be said about, it's okay to let other people talk. Yes, I'll write down what I want to say. It's okay. I just think that there's a difference between, there's government which gives goods to people that they require, EBT food stamps, all this shit. None of that works right now.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It's insane. I defrauded them for a while. Yeah, totally. And also, it needs to be drug testing. So I wish you could hit off. And then, okay, so. Drug testing. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:25:54 So, but the exceptionalism thing, all of that, that is what I would say if I was a neo-Marxist or if I was on the side, is that art can be exceptional. You can be exceptional you can be an exceptional band the exception of exceptional comedian make exceptional shit without the struggle of having to stay alive like the homeless dude on the train right now he might be the best singer of all time but because he disadvantaged in whatever way he's not getting that opportunity to do so right so if we if we golden voice guy in oh. Right, so I think that the problem is,
Starting point is 00:26:25 things are going to rise as big as they get, but the problem is that giving corporations independence and allowing corporations to get to the size that they are, allowing corporations to interfere with politics, all of that. First of all, I also just think we shouldn't have one federal government in a massive country like this. Bing, bing. But I also do think that there can's can be a democracy is incredible,
Starting point is 00:26:47 but there has to be limited. You cannot buy your way out of things. There has to be somebody doing checks and balances on the corporations and lobbying. They are taking away. They are utilizing our desire, need to stay alive, need to drink water,
Starting point is 00:27:02 need to eat, need to, they're taking our data and using it to manipulate us to give them money, all of that. And there's nobody who's going to say, we're going to make sure that they provide the things back that allow people to not be homeless. And that's never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Nobody's going to do that because those people are just going to be like, I'm just going to pay you to not have that happen. Yes. And can I say? I agree. Totally. And what blows my mind is, dude, honestly, if on January 6th, the people on that
Starting point is 00:27:34 side went down and then they all got people on the other side and went, hey, we're actually kind of going against the same thing. The government is fucking us and it doesn't matter who it is. We need to all come together and but it was such a dividing moment you know they were under the notion that trump won the election well that's what's stupid yeah that's but also 85 million people voted for biden come on uh but i will say the whole idea like what blows my mind is that
Starting point is 00:28:04 everybody does we cannot all come together whether you're a communist or you're this or that, and go, no, no, no, no, no, no. We are all fucked. And it's not, and your little solution isn't going to happen. But there was a pendulum with Obama. Like, there were things, like, Obama, I'm on Medicaid. Like, I'm able to get access to medication. So many people are. Yeah, but I'll never forgive him for bailing out the banks.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I hear you. So many people are able to get access to like therapy. There was a huge amount of, I mean, the Obama phone thing, whatever that was, but like there were, and he did have a cap and trade policy that he was going to do on emissions and stuff. I thought we were going to talk about Citizen or like the
Starting point is 00:28:43 chaos of LA. We're getting into like deep... But I'm just saying... And also, fuck Obama for what he did in Flint. No, no, no. I thought we were going to talk about Citizen or the chaos of LA. We're getting into deep... Fuck Obama for what he did in Flint. No, no, no. I'm just saying... The Flint thing is egregious. We're going down a lot of holes. The Flint thing is insane. I'm just saying this pendulum swinging
Starting point is 00:28:55 from we can change the world to let everything burn because of the snowflake trans cucks and all that. Sure. I'm just saying this wide. I like it. There's no reason to have the dichotomy as big as it is,
Starting point is 00:29:11 except for the fact that that is how they are getting money out of our brains. Like the giant separation between like, fuck the vaccine. And hey, I think I'm going to get vaccinated because it helps. That big jump is like all there is now. There's no grave. Right, sure. So we could blame social media in large part for that because you're incentivized to say
Starting point is 00:29:31 the most insane thing that you can. Totally, totally. So that's a problem. So you're looking at more division on that level. And they're taking us down for not being able to say what we want, which makes me want to say the China. You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:42 So that's the thing that doesn't get addressed enough is that every once in a while you're going to run into a personality such as myself that when't get addressed enough is that every once in a while you're going to run into a personality such as myself that when you say, oh, hey, we don't like you saying the moderately bad thing. I go, oh, then I'm going to find, I'm going to find an avenue to say the worst. Yeah. And it's like, we should be mature adults about the fact that like, yo, I don't have
Starting point is 00:29:59 to behave like that. I understand that everybody, I get it. But like at the same time, somebody does, there's always going to be a me. You know what I mean? Like, let's just be honest about it. And that's why communism won't work. Have you tried to fly on a fucking plane? And when they say we need people to give up some of their luggage space. Yeah. No one fucking does that.
Starting point is 00:30:16 People will walk on your fucking throat to get on five minutes earlier. Yeah. And on top of that, that was really good. That was fucking amazing. That's a good bit. Yeah. That would just ride a plane.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Go to the airport. Have you been on a plane? Yeah. Yeah. My whole thing is like when people are like, well, communism would work our way. It's like, well, it's the same thing as being like, look, incest has never worked. But if we did incest our way, we wouldn't have free talk. She's an incest person. I think incest could work. But if we did incest our way, we wouldn't have free talk. But to your
Starting point is 00:30:48 point, it was so glaring to me because you're basically talking about context and critical thinking and being adults and going, no, we understand what this is. And to me, that whole thing when I did that communism bit that just fell
Starting point is 00:31:04 out of my head in the caption, I say capitalism sucks, but the other option is not better. And then the joke came out in the video, but people totally ignored that and made it out to be this older thing. And I'm like, how do you not understand the context of this? Hey, everybody, it's your old pal Ian here. And I am talking to you about display. That that's right today's episode is brought to you by display you're looking for a unique conversation piece for your home displayed as the answer look at this they sent us this I love cigarettes I love women and we can hang in anywhere um this is great if you're a nerd I don't know why they're like being
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Starting point is 00:32:47 or a Chad beta alpha, then we got you covered. Well, listen, anybody that wants to talk to you about politics is clearly autistic. Yeah. And then if somebody wants to talk about communism, it's like they're probably socially maladjusted as well.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Totally. Too much online. Too much online. Yeah. So you're dealing with a specificed as well. Totally. Too much online. Too much online. Yeah. So you're dealing with a specific type of person. And listen, everybody, as long as you fucking give me money or listen to our podcast or whatever the fuck,
Starting point is 00:33:12 I don't give a fuck about your politics. No. We've got militia members that write us. I don't give a fuck. Patreon.com slash worst possible timeline for all bonus content. Any view you want. And we, here's, you should try this.
Starting point is 00:33:23 We will read your reviews, even if they are brutal reviews. Oh, God. Cool. We get brutal ones. As long as they're five stars. If you give us five stars, I will read. You could go on a racist screen, and I will read it word for word. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:33:37 A letter to your ex-wife. Yeah. I will do cameos on the style of, as long as it's five stars on iTunes, I'll say, I'll say, I promise to kill myself. You bitch. Yeah, whatever it is, like you're going to pay. Oh no. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Whatever it is. I'll do it. If we could tie a bow on the communist, it's like, yes, anything works if everyone involved agrees with you. If everyone's on the same page, then sure, communism's great and works. But you're going to find assholes like us. It's not going to work. Sorry. Also, not for nothing, does anybody know anybody
Starting point is 00:34:12 in a gang? Just a real question. Those are supposed to be tight units where it's under the... Blood in, blood out? No, no, no. There's that phrase for like, it's under 100 people. I think 100 people is like the cap, or like 130 or whatever, of people that you can care about, right? on earth so so there's this theory anyway gangs would come in under that right so like in principle this is supposed to be tight units wait until you
Starting point is 00:34:35 wait until somebody fucks your ex-girlfriend yeah and then shit falls apart wait till somebody wait till somebody jerks you on a bag of weed. That shit falls apart. These ideas that would... The idea that 330 million human beings could not have a significantly enough dissenting voice within them to be like, yeah, no system's going to work. It's just obviously no system's going to work. 330 million anything's not going to work. Look at what happened with the Chaz Autonomous in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:35:03 We're fans of the Chaz. It's beautiful, dude. We're Chaz guys.ous in Seattle. We're fans of the Chaz. I'm a Chaz guy. We're Chaz guys. I'm a Chaz guy, but I'm a Chaz Bono. I would go by the name Chaz. That's how much I like it. I think that that shit is fun. January 6th, controversial opinion.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Occupation is a valid form of protest and pretty much everybody recognizes that in other circumstances. Goodbye YouTube. Goodbye YouTube. Yeah, goodbye YouTube. But for example, I believe it was trans protesters took a city... Oklahoma. A capitol building in... In Oklahoma, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's a form of occupation. The American Indian movement took Alcatraz. These are valid forms of protest. Now, you shouldn't have zip ties on you if you do. That's not good. No. Those were Antifa infiltrators. Anyway. There's certain things that you can do to make sure that you don't look like an absolute lunatic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Peaceful. Peaceful occupation. Valid form of protest. Anyway, you were saying. Well, can I just say one more time? Your communist thing,
Starting point is 00:36:09 the reason why people came after you also is because I was in a shitty suit and I just came for my friend's funeral. You look good. You are, I do think
Starting point is 00:36:19 that the bit, we're not talking about the bit. It sucked. I get it. The correlation of communists to kale eating polyamorous
Starting point is 00:36:28 people isn't right. Okay. It fell out of my head in the moment. I know and it was great. It was great that it fell out of your head. And guess what? I took that and I've reworked it as a bit because I do listen. Yes. But I'm just saying that when people came after you in a negative
Starting point is 00:36:44 sense, it wasn't, people might have been like, fuck, communist is great. But the people that were making fun of you were making fun of the fact that they were assuming that. Yeah, but my whole thesis was that they're annoying. And then what do you know? Everyone was fucking annoying. But I think if you were comparing them to the non-binary polyamorous, communists are autistic streamers.
Starting point is 00:37:07 They're autistic streamers. That's different. They don't have sex. I thought that was us. They're like big, chubby gingers who sit in their basement. And they're actually very, very intelligent, but they do not touch titties. You can be too intelligent where you can think too hard. And the whole idea in communism, again,
Starting point is 00:37:27 we can wrap it up, but the switching out of like, well, who's going to do the latrines? Oh, we'll switch. It's fine if you have localized communities. I don't want to get surgery from a switcher. I'm not getting surgery from a switcher. No. Latrine hands.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Surgery from a switcher. It's also the idea that latrine hands. Yeah, it's not good. Surgery from a switcher. It's also the idea that like is cleaning and everybody we understand this is not the only this is a very
Starting point is 00:37:51 broad interpretation of communism. We understand it's not actually what you're suggesting, but the the idea that it
Starting point is 00:37:58 it's worth like a jet propulsion scientist that it's a good use of his time to be like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:05 I should be digging the ditches as well. That's it. That's it. And everybody, we get it. That's not what you're proposing, but like this idea that you, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:13 this idea that you can ever find some type of equal footing for people who, some of whom are mediocre, some are sub mediocre and some of them are exceptional. It's like, it does the government have a responsibility to take care of people that are like, we'll use sub-mediocre for, it's insensitive. But yeah, I would argue yes. If we're paying taxes into a system,
Starting point is 00:38:33 I want to see people not starve. I want to see people take care of people. Well, that's what it all originally was, where it's just like the Bernie shit. It was just like, yo, we pay taxes. Give us some fucking healthcare. Like kind of a simple request. Yeah, and that's kind of, I think we pay taxes. Give us some fucking healthcare. Kind of a simple request. I think we're
Starting point is 00:38:48 on the same page with that. You took it too far. I go further with that shit where people are calling cops as bad. It's like, I'll call cops to clean up garbage. You know what I mean? I pay taxes. And you're talking about the homeless? Dude, have you ever... When I was a kid, one time
Starting point is 00:39:03 I called the cops because I was in this horrible hailstorm and I had a flat tire and I was like, I don't know what to do. Cop caller! I called the cops. Knock punk! And he came and he was like, I don't have a jack. And he left me on the side of the road. So dangerous. Sounds like a cop.
Starting point is 00:39:15 It was crazy. But, um. Dude, what's wild about the whole. We called, me and Nelly were getting chased by a guy when we were in high, when we were in, we were babies. We were 17, getting chased by this guy. He's running after us we call the cops we get in trouble because we were under 17 and we had been drinking we call a guy who literally said he was going to take us home and they let the guy go and told our parents and we got this whole like don't call the cops saying on whatever it's just like so laughable
Starting point is 00:39:40 there was first of all i i've been here since 2007 should we move wait we should move we while we have them well real quick i just want to say the whole thing about like we should be like yeah no fuck the government this and that especially in the hardcore and punk scene i went to the mad ball um blood clot wisdom and change shows in tompkins square park every year that they did it and the first, that turned into a huge thing where everybody was like, fuck these guys, this and that. And it's like, no, fuck you. That made us feel normal and gave me a sense of like,
Starting point is 00:40:16 oh, we're going to get through this. It was like it was outdoors. And the numbers at the time, the numbers of COVID were low. It was like, you know. It's insane, the pushback it got. If you're vulnerable, don't go to the fucking show. But also, John Joseph didn't help.
Starting point is 00:40:30 There's not too many situations he helps. But here's what I'm going to say. What are we politically, if you could describe this? Are we describing libertarians? Dumb. Politically, I want everyone to be okay, and I volunteer. I go out in my little community, and I help other people around me.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And that's fucking it. And I hope other people do that too. And other than that, get fucked. So, uh, I don't know what your politics are. Uh, I'm a Republican. I'm a log cabin Republican. I'm a log cabin Republican. I have a religious studies degree and I have zero opinion on religion.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I don't even think about it. This is how I feel about politics. The majority of people that... People think that shit like love is love is politics. It's not politics. That's a slogan. At best, it's a platitude. Politics, you have to have
Starting point is 00:41:25 a platform and then you have to have policy. If you have neither of those, then you're not talking about politics. You're just basically, these are just opinions like the, you know, you and I can just be sitting around going like, you know, uh, when they changed the Mountain Dew flavor, I was really pretty bummed. Right. And that's, those are opinions. And that's, has about as much validity as two dudes in a dorm room going like, uh, you know, Strasser ism is,
Starting point is 00:41:51 uh, is, is better than, uh, you know what? And it's like, yo, it's the same shit because it's just opinion until you get to the point that
Starting point is 00:41:56 you're actually able to make suggestions that are actionable for other people. Right. Yeah. So in that respect, as unallowed as this is, as forbidden as this is, I consider myself apolitical. You know what I mean? Wow. That's what it is. And like, I have a million opinions, you know what I mean? And if you ask me about it, I'll give it. But the smartest thing you can say is I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. And at the same time, it's like. But now politics have become something else. Politics used to be how we pay taxes who makes what money how we get social programs all these things and now politics are what can we say on youtube it's pure culture and this shit is not i don't care i will pay the taxes for the comedy i will pay the taxes for the podcast i will get raped by you know sorry i will get essay i will get mexican sorry i will get mexican by wow by uh inflation whatever sure okay but if the if i have mechanisms of speech and i am no longer able to say that that is like the the line that is drawn that is so fucking scary to me where that is now politics. Now liberals being like, you can't say those words.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Like even Joe Rogan being like his entire career being like, I am allowed to talk about the N word if I say it, if I'm talking about it as I'm talking about it. And then coming forward and being like, I never meant it that way. It's like, what's going on? When I read Tom Sawyer, I just bleep that word. It's like, what's going on? When I read Tom Sawyer, I just bleep that word in my own mind. They're changing Roald Dahl. Roald Dahl? What the fuck are you doing? So, okay, you're
Starting point is 00:43:34 dialing down to a thing that maybe for your viewers, because the people that listen to Eric and I have a pretty good grasp on who we are. But obviously, we're new to the people watching today. Our guys are going to get you guys. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Oh my God. But here's the way I would say it for, for people that don't understand is like, uh, the mainstream media, whatever you want to call it, corporate media has this insistence that if you hate libs, then you are right wing. Right. And that's just not true. No. Like obviously. then you are right wing and that's just not true if you leave
Starting point is 00:44:06 this podcast because of the shit that this idiot crew is saying right now you're insane unless you're subscribed to the Patreon you can piss in my mouth they said they tried on one political statement that they don't know what they're about
Starting point is 00:44:21 I'm done with you or fuck Ian he said this one thing I I'm like, he's a manic dude on stage having fun. Fuck off. I really think what it boils down to is what we're seeing is we were fucking bought and sold this lie that if you go to college you'll be able to live forever on work
Starting point is 00:44:38 and a degree. And everybody stayed in the classroom too long with these degrees where all you do is analyze and think and now everything's a classroom and everybody like the whole thing was like where do these kids get in the real world well now with the internet we've manipulated the real world to be the internet because like i when that thing happened i was shitting on a toilet in mcallister oklahoma replying to people thinking it was funny and then everybody the next day is like look at him ratioed i'm like what's a ratio and they're like this guy funny and then everybody the next day is like look at him ratio and I'm like
Starting point is 00:45:06 what's a ratio and they're like this guy and then I go online people I go oh my god do I suck am I a loser and the internet but I was having fun but now I've realized now I've realized but
Starting point is 00:45:21 the that fake thing can turn into reality if I let that warp my world view. And then I start going, I blah, blah. And then I went, reality? I just sold out the Hollywood fucking improv. I get a standing ovation. Mystery plays at the end by turnstile. And we get a fucking sing-along on stage.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I thought, should I stage it? But there were hot chicks in the front row row and I didn't want to hurt them. In your back, is it, Kane? It is. Yeah. So that discrepancy between what is said online versus material reality, I just saw a thing about it,
Starting point is 00:45:57 which is that Hogwarts Legacy, which is a game about Harry Potter, is like the most streamed game and in Twitch history or some shit. Right. Single player game. And there was calls to boycott it. And it was supposed to be this thing where you were giving money to a transphobic,
Starting point is 00:46:13 whatever, but like, hopefully transphobic. Cause JK. Yeah. Yeah. So, so which,
Starting point is 00:46:20 right. Like that's a whole discussion. Uh, but I think that the, the, the mystification, the, the, the, the, it's coming off of our eyes. The veil of Maya is, is, is being erased where we're not buying into the idea that, oh, what I saw on social media, you know, 14 maladjusted people who have a lot of time on their hands devoted a lot of time to harming me. That's not the same as the people that come to the show, which is a much greater number.
Starting point is 00:46:53 People have been saying this for like a decade, but I think that we're approaching the tipping point on us going yet. Wait, but that's not real. You know, that's not real. But it's fucked up because that perception that the online is reality is what influences the politics. And that's why I've become so fucking cynical and jaded to everything where my advice to people is save your fucking money, buy property, and just build wealth and get the fuck out of the system. Like, just get money. Self-interest. Do for self. Do forinterest. Do it for self. Do it for self.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Do it for self. That's what I was telling them. I started responding to people. They're like, this guy's a comedian. I go, I'm not a comic. I'm a landlord. That's why I was in this suit. That was really funny.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And rent's going up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that we're approaching that moment. We've been saying that for so long now. We have. But I think that, like, the normal person is just going to have to confront like oh wait the fallacy of online i was worried about getting because i mean i've seen this in music
Starting point is 00:47:51 right like there was a period in music where people were just weaponizing the internet to like harm you know people that they don't like right like just like and this was there was that inflection point where it was like oh Oh no, is nothing going to operate anymore? Because if you can just say something about somebody and it causes, for example, like in, in, in music's case,
Starting point is 00:48:11 a venue, like we were on tour with a band and they were like really nervous. They were like, I'm getting canceled for saying bitch on a podcast. And I was like, I blame Jews for nine 11. Like I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:24 you know what? so last night i did this comedy central thing right and they're filming it and i my fucking shoe came untied and i put my foot out and i'm like can you tie my shoe and it's a black dude and i was like fuck i shouldn't have had the black guy do it because people are gonna rag on me for that yeah and i could not believe that that was like. The thought in your head. The thought in my head should have been, you are such a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Thank you so much. And the reason why I had you do it is because the two girls on either side of you are four foot five and their titties would be in the way. And that's where my brain went. And I'm like, the fact that now that man is more black to me
Starting point is 00:49:01 because of woke culture is such bullshit. So, so like when I just said I blame Jews for nine 11, clearly I don't. But the reason I, the reason I keep saying it is because like it's, it's very clear that I don't believe that. And I'm just trying to establish like a baseline of,
Starting point is 00:49:19 of like, I say this on a podcast all the time. I'm like, where were the Jews on that? But like, but the reason is that cause it's like, it's like a contextual baseline of this is obviously unserious. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Like, and if you're not going to take this thing seriously, then why are you taking the other thing seriously? Like, like, yeah, the baseline, just like,
Starting point is 00:49:38 here's our homeostasis is you can tell I'm joking. And if you pretend otherwise you're being a dick yeah i mean like that's just what it is and like anybody that pretends that they can't tell that when their uncle is like those is is is not is in some way the same as us like your mexican joke like someone that believes that those two things are the same is either being dishonest or they're, or they're being dishonest with the purpose of hurting you. Like,
Starting point is 00:50:10 and it's like, yo, I don't got time for either one. You know, I think people feel so disempowered that this is their way of like feeling either relevant or self-actualizing or that they have some kind of like power in the world. That's like,
Starting point is 00:50:23 Hey, I can use this to harm this person. You don't need power through harm. No power through harm is terrible. I mean, maybe deep down they're malevolent. That's kind of where you come in. That that's where.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah. You're a malevolent piece of shit. No, no, no. Like he believes that they're at in their heart. There is some malevolence there. I think it's desperation.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I think it's, and I think it's like searching for some sort of, they don't fuck. And they don't fuck and they don't get out there and be the change you want to see in the world nobody's fucking you know how many incels I fuck are you kidding me dude you know what I did you were with one for a year really kind but that's what it comes down to you see this woman hey and you're like I'm so sorry that a woman like never ran her fingers through your hair buddy but. But that's like what's going on. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And I'm going to guess based on who you are, that you at some juncture in your life, maybe in your teen years, used to enjoy bus stop conversations. Like, you know, the strange guy, he's got a name like Sticks or something. And like he's always chewing on a popsicle stick or whatever. Okay. So here's what I found. And it's the thing I like always chewing on a popsicle stick or whatever okay so here's what I found and it's the thing I've been thinking about a lot I always loved the strange person yeah right like I always loved that oddball
Starting point is 00:51:34 kind of like fringe personality and I love speaking to them and I've never been offended even when like there was a guy that used to go I lived in Brooklyn in like 2000 and there was a guy at my gym that just wore a kill white people shirt and this was back when that had any sort of
Starting point is 00:51:49 oh, he might mean it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A big fucking guy. Anyway, used to talk to that fella. I'll talk to the fucking black Hebrew Israelites who are calling me I fuck dogs, I'm a gay lord and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You get blue eyed Jekyll. i always love this thing i'm not offended by anybody but the internet has introduced me to a type of malignant malevolent personality so that that odd person i think is either is a very dark-sided person like when i run into people in person that are in real life that are strange, that are fringe, I'm still like, all right. Yeah, brother. Tell me about. Yeah. Tell me about that.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You know what I mean? I'm still game. But online. And this might include some of the people that attacked you for your communist comments. You run into like a type of person that is, you know, maybe like the Facebook Karen is like the 40 year old white woman version. But then there's this like the communist kid that's like 26 might be a different version. But it's all this one type of malignant fucking nasty person that's just trying to harm. That's why I can't think it's desperation because. Yeah, I can't think that people are trying to harm.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I got to think it's something else because I got to think that people are listening to this and they're like, oh, you know, Ian and Jordan think it's okay to just like say to, you know, talk about the vaccine, like it's bad. So then people get sick and people die. They don't care about my dad. My dad died. I'm just saying everybody, I think everybody thinks that they're coming from a good place. It's just, everybody is driven by anger because we all put all of our attention into a vessel okay and the vessel decided do we want how do we make this girl mad okay we're gonna make her mad this way we're gonna make him mad this way now everybody's coming from a place of anger yeah even though we think it's coming from a place of love also what you just said is so important that and and
Starting point is 00:53:42 i agree to me i can't stand the game you're right you're right me it's a reminder of your different abilities and it's it's upsetting well what you have a disability and we hate it mentally um but you like meeting the people in real life because when you talk to them you see their face you understand like all this this is visual we know you're joking because we see the wink we see the inflection we hear it but online you don't and online you can throw your own shit on it yeah and also project the retards who came after you for the communist thing i'm like you see he's riffing dog you know he's riffing but at the same time they are they some of them are malignant but
Starting point is 00:54:20 at the same time they want a like to feel empowered and like see i'm not the only one cc yeah yeah you're wrong and i learned i used to be on a hardcore nihilist i used to be on a hardcore music message board in philadelphia and that in in high school and that kind of taught me this thing about like dude there was there was a kid from boston that came in from the bridge nine board and came to center fuse and talked shit on some Philly guys and this crazy motherfucker went up to Boston, found him at a show and threw him through a table. And we all learned, wow,
Starting point is 00:54:53 this shit has consequences. So you don't fucking mouth off. You fucking know whatever you say will come back and bite you in the end. Those were the glory days of catching up with people in real life. Yeah, and now that doesn't happen, so people just unfettered run their mouth
Starting point is 00:55:10 because there's no fucking consequences. We need a fucking group. We should take our prisoners and sick them on people that do stuff online. Beat them up, and then... Wow. I haven't thought further through that, but I think that'll help.
Starting point is 00:55:25 No, no, no. Jordan, if I could offer like a potentially controversial opinion about what you said. When people say, you know, they're saying something insensitive about the vaccine. I've had people in my life that have gotten sick from COVID or died. Do they not care about this part of my life, these people in my life that have gotten sick from or from covid or died do they not care about these this part of my life these people in my life i say this with all the love in my
Starting point is 00:55:50 heart uh i don't want anything bad to happen anybody no i don't care that much yeah and that's not that's not because i want something bad to happen to you or your family. It's just being honest about this life means that, like, I drive a vehicle for five months a year, right? 30 days at a time just in a vehicle. You know how many dead people I see? Yeah. Like, a fair amount, right? What?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Auto accidents, I see people just dead. Oh. And, like, I drive a car. How many people? What do you got in that van? He runs for the cartel. Yeah, exactly. Do you know how many immigrants I, do you know how many illegal immigrants I leave in
Starting point is 00:56:32 the desert? You're driving the migrant bus. Yeah. Here's the thing. Uh, we can, hopefully everybody cares about each other in that general way where you don't want harm to fall on anybody in any real way. Yeah. But you're full of shit.
Starting point is 00:56:48 If you're pretending, if you're just selectively pulling these things, like, like how could you not care about my grandma? I didn't care about your grandma two days ago when she could have died. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I don't, I don't know anything else. The flu, you know what I mean? Like I didn't care about her then. And it's not because I want you to be in pain, nor do I want anything bad to happen to her. But let's just be frank with each other. I did not care that much about your grandmother hours ago.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah. We all just want the capacity to be free to express ourselves without hurting other people. And when people start going, you can't express yourself because you have to do this certain thing and speak in a certain way. And that's how it goes. And then I go, I don't like that. And they go, that's because you're a bad person you're not a good person you assign political they assign you political orientation based on the fact that you don't want somebody stepping on your dick that's really weird when you're like hey i have no politics other than please don't step on my dick and they're like no but i think you do how do you feel about immigrants you're like i'm sorry that your life
Starting point is 00:57:43 is so limited that the only thing that you're sequestered to is a computer in a basement and you don't know how to express yourself besides through the hatred of other people. I'm sorry, but I have shit that I want to say and shit that I want to do and I have a very limited time on the planet
Starting point is 00:57:55 and I'm not going to have, because all of these people get online and say, I'm offended by this, that one, the platforms that I am able to put my art on and be like, well,
Starting point is 00:58:03 they're offended, so we got to take these people down. You just can't. That has to, somebody has to keep pushing up against that. It's the same with like, even the non-binary thing. I've been trying to talk about this on stage. You're okay. Ian's got to go.
Starting point is 00:58:14 He's got his, he's going to explode. We weren't meant to know everybody's thoughts and feelings. Psychologically, evolutionary. We weren't meant to know about that person's grandma because we don't have the capacity. When you walked by a lady in the park, you said, oh, she looks nice. Hi, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Then you went, now you go to her Facebook and see she skins cats. You're not supposed to know this. No, I'm not supposed to know what a kid that went to grade school with thinks about this motherfucking thing. We're supposed to know about this and the 100-person thing, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I'm not supposed to know about kids dying in a let bow who's the man who's more addicted to Instagram than anybody I've ever met yes it's a problem and I'm trying to get better he's working through it I'm working through it dick you know as long as you're working and also speaking of work motherfuckers are commenting all this shit
Starting point is 00:59:00 and people are going thank you for your labor your labor tip tip tap typing? Yeah, yeah. So that's, I don't think that there's any way to get around this. That's just, that's an unhealthy maladjusted person
Starting point is 00:59:14 that calls that labor. Fuck them! You know what I mean? Like, that's just what that is. You're literally on there responding to every single one of them. I hold you just as responsible as them. I stopped.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I stopped. That's how I feel. I stopped. It wasn't a full job. I did it for an hour. You're screaming on the top of your lungs. First of all, you're just as activated by them.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Oh, and every time, and every time they come after us online, you go after them. Yeah. And you know what? Fuck you. Where are you going?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Where are you going? He's getting the proton. He's activated. No, you can't kill me with the proton pack. We talked about this. I have a real weapon. Here's the thing. I will. Here's the thing proton pack. No, you can't kill me with the proton pack. We talked about this. I have a real weapon. Here's the thing I will say.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh, my bad. Yeah, that's not for you anymore. This might be aggravating the situation. Yeah, no shit. We might have to get you some cortisol. Here's what we gotta do. Cortisol? All this stuff online.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Zap him. There you go. Guess what? This ain't real All this stuff online. Zap them. We gotta zap them. We gotta zap them. There you go. We gotta zap them. Guess what? This ain't real, just like online. Yeah, so you will also, you will stop also. That's what I would like to see.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Because you are spouting this shit, but you get locked in it. You get pulled in. You gotta get out of there. Yeah, you gotta break from the Matrix. You gotta break from the Matrix. The best movie ever made. You know what, though? I had an experience where somebody was shitting on me the other day online and I responded
Starting point is 01:00:28 kind of like my dad does with the Jamaican guys that like try to scam old people. You know what I mean? Like my dad just keeps them on the phone. I'll be like, why are you making these choices? Well, that's just you masturbating. You're having a good time. But what I found was if you just keep it, like it is true that a lot of people just want your attention.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah. And if you just say, hey, brother, I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, but I appreciate your listening. Yeah. They go, all right. That's what we say to people that fuck with us. We're like, thanks for listening. Yeah, thanks for listening. Thank you. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:01:00 If somebody raps on me, if somebody says, like, you suck or something, I always just write a little sad face. Because it does make me sad. And I'm just like, you made me sad. I'll say, hey. And I hate when I do that. You don't know who I am. You have a parasocial relationship. Yeah, correct.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You attack them. Look, man, just because I did it one time doesn't mean it's forever. You do it all the time. Okay, that's a different conversation. Thanks for coming on the pod, guys. Appreciate you having me. Before we go, real quick, if you indulge me, how do you feel about, have you seen or heard the AI voice modulators?
Starting point is 01:01:32 Because this could be what saves us. Because everything is plausibly deniable. I was thinking that. That once truth no longer exists, you can no longer get mad because you no longer know. Which is bad because now politicians can get away with generally,
Starting point is 01:01:47 like next time there's a blackface Justin Trudeau image, he can tell, AI brother. Yeah, never happened. Never happened. Oh, dude, next episode of blackface.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I don't want people to be like, did Jordan say that? And then I, and have people be like, no, she didn't. It was AI. I don't want to not get in trouble. The only AI I want is Allen Iverson.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah. Okay. This is going to become a thing. They are throwing people in jail in Canada for not using people's pronouns. It is going to get out of control. Is that true? So I know at least in England, I don't think they can throw you in jail, but cops come to your house.
Starting point is 01:02:22 So I know that to be a fact because I watch a lot of YouTube. But also like thought leaders, can you, thought leaders like Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, all these people have gotten sucked into the zeitgeist of Twitter
Starting point is 01:02:35 and they're gone. And they were people that we were looking to as contemporary philosophers and they're completely diluted by Twitter. Jordan Peterson is like tragic in a way because he was amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:45 You watch old videos, it's like this is clearly an intelligent person. And then you fast forward to now and it's like man, he's been sucked in. The internet became his reality. And that's not reality. Well, to counter that, I like Sam Harris' arc because
Starting point is 01:03:01 he almost went in and then he pulled out. No, no. I mean, he's beclowned himself went in and then he pulled out. No, no. I mean, he's beclowned himself recently, but what do you do? I love that beclown. Yeah, that's what he's done. I mean, so he has. I don't know if you saw the this was from a couple of months ago where he basically said that he was comfortable with.
Starting point is 01:03:20 He was comfortable with efforts to suppress the Hunter Biden story because literally anything that made Trump not win was worth it. Fuck you. Now, that's the ends justify the means. Now, don't get me wrong. Everybody reaches that point. Everybody with something will go, I'm just going to smack him. I don't give a fuck. Right?
Starting point is 01:03:36 That happens with everybody. But philosophically, you can't say that. Philosophically, you can't say that. So here's the thing. I liked it because even though I think Sam Harris has made himself look like a fucking fool. We're all fools at some point. We all have a breaking point. We all have a moment of.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Did he renege? No, no, no. He doubled down. He basically he deleted a lot of like his. I think he disappeared from social media. He's all about honesty. I know, but he believes that he's right. And he because he really thinks that there's this possible catastrophe that could happen if Trump was to win, right?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Now, if you believe that, you've got to look at it as a religious belief, which is ironic in his case. But you've got to look at it as a religious belief. When a Christian comes to you and they say, I'm going to pray for your soul because you're fucking those guys again, right? You might find this obnoxious because you're like with your mumbo jumbo and you've fucking got, but if they believe it and they're trying to save your soul, you might consider going, you know what?
Starting point is 01:04:31 I'm going to keep fucking those fellas, but that's kind of you. I appreciate that. Right. So, but with, with, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:38 with Sam Harris, it's like he believes that the world will end if Trump becomes president. So with that in mind, now that might be a foolish religious belief becomes president. So with that in mind, now that might be a foolish religious belief in essence, but with that in mind, you got to go, all right, brother,
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'd, I'd kill baby Hitler. You know what I mean? I get it. Like at some point, the ends justify the means that's a normal human response. You were supposed to be a thinker and not hit me with your personal. And now baby Hitler,
Starting point is 01:05:04 but you're a stinker. Now you're a stinker. I just don't understand how if Sam Harris is being like, we should cover up the Hunter Biden stuff in order to not have Trump. He's also the person
Starting point is 01:05:20 who's like, he is a bit deterministic. He's like, whatever happens, happens. He's almost like a social Darwinist. He's almost like a Calvinist. He's a pretty weird's like, he is a bit deterministic. He's like, whatever happens, happens. He's almost like a social Darwinist. He's almost like a Calvinist. He's a pretty weird dude in that respect. But he is like, no free will. Things happen as they happen. So to have, I mean, he's always been like, we need to watch out for AI.
Starting point is 01:05:34 He's been right about that. He's been like, you know, fundamentalist religious people. He's been right about that. You're not going to bat a thousand. That's my approach. So here's what I like about it. You go three for ten, you're in the hall of. So here's what I like about it. You go three for ten, you're in the Hall of Fame. Here's what I like about it.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Exactly right. But I'm saying he's slipping because of this stuff. Oh, I mean, look, he might think he's not in an echo chamber because all day, every day, people are saying, you dumb fuck. But that's its own echo chamber. If people that you think are despicable or wrong, fundamentally wrong, are telling you you're a dumb piece of shit, then you're going, I must be right because dumb pieces of shit think I'm wrong. But that's not how that goes. There's a million ways to be wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It's also insane to think that Trump wouldn't win if we hide stuff. That's like insane. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Well, it's also like, yeah, exactly. So if we had more information, we'd vote for the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Like, what are you proposing? Yeah. You know? So. And if it. Like, what are you proposing? Yeah. You know? So. And if it's nonsense, why are you hiding it? Right. Yeah. But again, I like it because exactly what you said.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Nobody bats a thousand. And that's good. You should, with each person in your life, you got a good relationship with your dad? He's died when I was eight. Feel good about him? Yes. Okay. So here's the thing. And today I do eight Feel good about him? Yes Okay So here's the thing
Starting point is 01:06:46 And today I do have A good relationship with him If you found papers Right That proved that he was Partied to the holocaust That's not good Right
Starting point is 01:06:56 No But you might also be like We used to toss the ball around He was great You know what I mean Like there's good and bad To be said for everybody Well I'll tell you
Starting point is 01:07:03 If I found that out I'd zap them. We got to end the pod, right? Thank you so much. Plug your stuff. Turn that off. Worst possible timeline podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Everybody check it out. It's where you listen to podcasts. Patreon.com. So that's where it's possible. Timeline. Should we plug the live show? I think this is going to drop after the live show happens. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:24 We're doing a live show, but there's no actual race science. Should we plug the live show? I think this is going to drop after the live show happens. Whatever, we're doing a live show. But there's no actual race science, everybody, on the podcast. No, no, no. Yes. And we established earlier, everything you said is a joke. But like I always say, plants grow towards light. So if you want race science, just give us the money. And we'll talk race science all day.
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