Bein' Ian With Jordan - Bein' Ian With Jordan Episode 065: Legal Dwarf W/ Kyle Dunnigan (Halloween Special)
Episode Date: October 25, 2023...
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Telling jokes and having smokes
Riding bikes all through the night
It's a wild ride
When you're being Ian
Coffee ice no matter what
Now you know he likes it in the butt
It's a wild ride
When you're being Ian
Being Ian And life is ride When you're being Ian Being Ian
Life is shit
But you're positive
Let's find out what it's like
To live a life
Being Ian
Being Ian
With Jordan
It's all about soul It's all about soul
It's all about
Let me know if either of you can ever see my tits
Oh, I kind of saw them earlier
I was like, hey, good work
Whoa, booby juice, booby juice, booby juice
I think we should call it
Let's go
Sound the alarm
Welcome back to another episode Sound the alarm.
Welcome back to another episode of Bein' Ian with Jordan.
The whole episode is going to be this. I didn't tell you guys, but the whole episode is going to be a hunk of hunk of Bein' Ian.
We might be drunk and he was Austin Powers.
And he also thinks Austin Powers moves in a way that he doesn't move.
How is that?
It's not.
Doesn't Austin Powers, our guest today, Kyle Dunnigan.
Oh, what's happening here?
That's me in front of the king.
The king, he did this a lot.
I mean, the king did that.
He did it when he was on stage, when he was off stage.
Let's be Elvis off stage.
Give me some Percocet, mama.
We have to have a disclaimer.
We need a disclaimer.
When Tom Segura was on the podcast, I knew who he was,
but I wasn't very well acquainted with his comedy.
And Ian, the whole podcast was like this.
Yeah.
This is how it's going to be like this, because this is my idol.
And he raised me in comedy. i listen to his voice every night that's i mean that is who hammer the skeleton
mama come on there oh no what are you nuts this day yeah yeah he has a great podcast
i'll tell you it's uh oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god spider did you see that prank that
really masculine of you.
Yeah, yeah. The way you reacted.
I know.
For a guy in a turtleneck, that was amazing.
No, I have a dichotomy of masculine and very effeminate in both things.
But that was, you didn't jump at all.
Yeah, like I will.
It was great.
You were ready to fight.
I'm very not afraid of a spider.
Also the Bondi Hoka's, what's up?
Good choice.
Yeah, this, the way I'm sitting is effeminate.
Effeminate? Effeminate.
Sometimes I'll do this.
Oh.
Can't cross some legs because I'm
a big man cock and ball.
Let's take these off.
Oh no.
Oh my god.
Yeah, they come with a cyber.
You didn't know?
I'm a bed bug juice. Yeah, They come with a cyber. You didn't know? I'm a bed bug juice.
Yeah.
She's got bed bugs.
I don't have bed bugs.
I do not have bed bugs.
She's got a lot of bugs, mama.
I had bed bugs a while back and I got attacked.
I get attacked by bugs.
You did.
It was really bad.
And I have crippling OCD.
It was a nightmare.
Do you really like wash hands and tap things OCD?
I'm not.
It's more like a cross-contamination of personalities. Like if somebody with a bad personality, like
hits a cigarette I'm smoking, then I think I'm going to turn into that person. It's a little
weird. Okay. But you're not counting numbers. You're not a numbers OCD. Um, well like yesterday
I was like, I should take that way. That's the way I should take. And I went, was to ian's and i went this way and then i got halfway down this block i was like no i need
to go that back so it's yeah okay but sometimes it's worse around my period which we're okay we're
coming up to right now but i'm on a lot of prozac which helps a lot okay good the period just i
should know this by now but like it's leading up to it. That's emotional.
Or when you have it right when you have it, it's leading up to it.
That's hell.
That's when it's like you feel like everybody's out to get you.
Everybody hates you.
You're under attack.
And then period.
You get it.
Women should be the president.
I think we can.
I agree.
I agree.
You can't have every month like everyone's trying to get me.
Yeah.
You have the president doing that, right?
I think that every woman, including the president,
should have that.
President of a country, of a company, of a fucking 4-H club.
I think it's good because what if the president is like her baby?
Because that's what we have.
That's what our feelings are, right?
Is that we're being like, get away from my baby.
I might have a baby.
And then, so if she was like the United States of my baby,
don't touch my baby.
Yeah, they'd act rationally.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Have you ever found a mother who's never acted irrationally about their
baby?
The King's accent is gone by the way.
It's all right now.
Thank you for making me bring it back now.
Come on.
Let's get back to the fact of the matter.
Folks.
Austin powers does dance like this,
right?
No, he, and it wasn't that you were just dancing. Back to the matter, folks. Austin Powers does dance like this, right? No.
And it wasn't that you were just dancing.
You would walk into every space doing that.
I don't think I remember that.
It was like a palsy.
Your buckle's coming undone there, Kenny.
Oh, shit.
Oh, it's been coming undone.
Just take that off.
It doesn't even match.
It's just the way I see it now.
Come on now.
We have a proton pack.
Yeah.
Okay, here's what's funny.
On our podcast, we're dogm We have a proton pack. Yeah. Okay, here's what's funny.
On our podcast,
we're dogmatically ourselves all the time.
Yes.
Too much to a point
where people are like,
turn this off.
And Kyle is never himself.
Never myself.
He's always in costume
and he forgot a costume
and look at us.
I don't know who I am.
Ian was so upset today.
He was PMSing.
He always PMSs when I PMS.
I'm one day out
and look how good I've been.
We haven't fought once. Usually we fight, cry when I'm PMSing. He always PMSs when I PMS. I'm one day out and look how good I've been. We haven't fought once. Usually we fight
cry when I'm PMSing. I have bad PMDD.
Not only does she have PMS
brother, but she has PMDD.
Pre-menstrual dysphoric disorder
brother. It's a hunk of hunk of burned shit.
That's amazing that you know the name of it.
That's great. That's great.
He has it in his phone when I get my period. We're not in a relationship.
I'm pregnant because you made me not be having
your period because you're not acting the same.
So you might be. She has been
getting a hunk of hunk of dump
and love in her butt, brother.
I can't stop saying hunk of hunk of.
What are you looking for? No, my costume
is Adam Sandler's
costume.
Yeah, do you remember it? Which one?
I'm crazy ashtray
guy. Yes.
Yes. Yeah, but no.
Oh, my God.
How do you slack your face perfectly like he does?
Is that a bird?
It's a plane.
It's super glue man.
It's super glue man.
I can stick to anything.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Do the skeleton guy.
Look at me. I have a skeleton guy. Oh, look at me.
I have a skeleton girlfriend.
Isn't that crazy?
What?
Wow.
Adam, can I tell you my favorite movie of yours is Jack and Jill?
I'm not doing Adam anymore.
Oh, damn it.
I've got to get the word to him that I've seen that movie in theaters twice.
I love it.
Do you really like it? I've never seen it in theaters twice. I love it. Do you really like it?
I've never seen it.
Dude, re-watch it.
Watch it.
It is such a classically good slapstick comedy.
Really?
It is so funny.
Yes.
Yes.
I am such a diehard Sandman purist.
Pay attention to it.
Okay, do I talk in the voice?
Your sunglasses are resting above yours, so it looks like your eyes are talking to Kyle like this.
Like, you're like, dude, it is the best movie.
It's really weird.
Do I talk like Elvis for the rest of the podcast?
No, but you have to take the sunglasses off.
I'm crazy liquid death man.
Isn't that the crazy?
Yeah, I know.
Please, please don't kill me, Mr. Liquid Death.
We put deep Fake My Face.
You're better at doing him than you are yourself.
No, I'm really uncomfortable being myself.
My whole life, I've just been like trying to do something else.
Wow.
Yeah, you did the Slap My Body guy.
That was my favorite thing in the whole world.
Oh, oh, all these bodies.
Oh, the rap guy.
Do you still communicate with those two?
Who was the other guy?
David Hunsberger.
Not a lot. Really?
I haven't talked to him in a while. Yeah. Tig did the
career that I wanted to do.
Just crush hard and then just
pump out two kids, disappear, show up
in a couple movies now and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A little TV show. Good career. Good
going. She knows how to
organize her life. She always was good
at that even before. Really? Some say that her life. She always was good at that, even before.
Some say that's manipulate.
Oh, wow.
I was like, how am I? I have no help.
She always had help.
I always thought she was more of a raccoon
disheveled person.
That's just her haircut.
Yeah. Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
I know doesn't look good by feeling it.
It looks great.
I think you should take it off, brother.
Take it off, man.
Come on, let's see some of them hickeys you got there, brother.
Come on now.
Yeah.
I had my swastika tattoo.
I almost gave myself a hickey because I got that bug,
the bug insect, you remove the repellent.
I mean, you remove the bite, and I mean you remove the bite and I sucked it
to my neck and I pulled it and I was like
oh no no I know exactly
what this is going to look like and I released it
but I did it under my chin huge hickey
I had a girl who just
kept biting me
and then
just so you know he was up and fist bumping
just when you said I have a girl
just so you know I just want you to know that
I felt the weight switch
and you went I had a girl and he was already
okay you had a girl
who bit you
she bit me once and I was like
took it like a man you know
I was like alright whatever
and then did it again and these are bites
that are leaving marks
that you know are breaking down all the layers.
And then the second one, I went, ow, it's not manly, but I need to.
That's fine.
I think I was fine.
And then she goes, sorry, I've been told I do that.
Oh, oh, the case of the borders.
She's walking on the border of the line.
Not care.
No. And then not care. No.
And then she did it again.
I went, how?
Like, tried to laugh it off.
Like, I'm still a man.
Yeah.
But really, I wanted to cry.
I didn't.
It's the worst.
It's pinchy.
It's not hot.
You can grip.
Gripping is good.
Gripping's fine.
Gripping's fine.
You can a little, like, bite a little bit.
What if before they bite you, what if before
they bite you in the neck, they go
like a vampire.
I'm more into that, though. I think
I'm more into that. Then you know
you're doing a bit like that's not passion.
That's someone who's really like, I'm going to
fight this person. I have had somebody with
a large penis go out and I was
like, what? And I and he was like, you're you
are doing your nails. And I was like, oh, wow.
Into his penis?
That's how she gives a hand job,
brother.
We weren't even in sex mode. We were just watching a movie.
I'm just, what? What? What?
Oh, sorry. But I will say there is
like a bracing
thing that happens sometimes. But that's why I think it's offensive
if you have a normal penis and people are like,
okay, you're bearing down
you're bearing down right now
I was like on his back
I dug it and he was like oh and I was like
oh shit sorry yeah maybe let's
chill on the sex you're hurting me
with your giant penis I thought I liked
that's what you were doing I got it now you were like
slow it down I didn't
even know it in my head until he was like ow and I was like
oh yeah ow for me as well, sir.
Oh, so you were like on a roller coaster.
Yeah.
Scared, like.
Yes, yes, yes.
And then when he was like, ow, I was like, you know what?
Ditto.
I wouldn't even have thought of that.
But ditto, my God.
Ditto would have been a good thing to say right there.
What I'm trying to say is I got a tight little push.
The moral of the story.
The moral of the story is you got a tight little kitty, brother.
If somebody told me when I was obsessively listening to kyle they
flash forward to me dressed up as beetlejuice going i have a tight pussy sitting next to him
i would i would run into traffic i think about that all the time like a flash of my life in the
future shown to me as a child would just be so confusing yeah so many times i know i know i this
is what this happened in a little while
back. I was on my motorcycle and Louie was there and I opened, I opened for Louie and he goes,
Chris, um, Chris Rock and Chappelle come over here. This is Jordan. So I'm sitting on my
motorcycle with a triangle of these three. And I literally had to be like, Hey, you guys,
I'm dissociating really bad. I'm go and they're like okay bye but it was
like so because i was having that moment where i was like this can't be real i died in my sleep
last night and this is happening you looked cool though i bet i looked so i look so cool that i
had to drive away from that image of myself and go home and fart would it be great if she if she
just toppled the motorcycle over and those three icons had to lift the bike off of her.
I did drop my motorcycle the other day outside the cellar.
What?
I just didn't put the kickstand down and I just,
and then this guy runs over and pulls it off me
and then Sam Morrell is over there and he's like,
nice one.
I'm like, okay, friend.
Thank you for not pulling.
You should have come over.
I know you should have come over.
Dude, I got one.
I'm bad friend guy.
I'm bad friend man.
Oh, it looks like you
shit yourself and you're on a date.
I, the other night
I was kind of on a date and me
and the girl were walking and I had my bike
and we were like giggle flirting
and we were like, and I
at when I, when we both rubbed
into each other, I went, I
didn't steer my bike my bike hit another
bike both bikes fell down and when I went to reach to pick it up I think a Pepto-Bismol fell
out of my pocket oh my god that's the worst thing to fall it was a not cool the best was when we're
when we're at the cellar and Ian is like he's wearing like this huge jacket with all these
pockets and he's looking for something.
And the things he's pulling out are like, he pulls out two things of Tums, Pepto Bismol. He pulls out, he pulled out like some other grandpa, like bag of tissues or something.
And then he pulls out, just when I was like, oh my God, you are an ancient man.
He pulls out a book that's like how trans people are hurting America.
Not that, but like that.
It was something like that.
And I was like, what has become of you?
No, it was a book about the,
what we're not going to get into, everybody.
It sounds like what's in my fanny pack.
That's a nice fanny pack.
This is actually, I got this because it's too filled,
but it's like, it forms to your body.
It's more of a man, like a murse. It's like a man
purse. And then this is here.
Whoa. That's so nice.
What is it? What company is it? I wear a
fanny pack the way it was meant to be
worn, around the waist.
Not around. No, this is better
because you're here. No. You don't want the
thing that looks out here. No.
You look like a raver. No, I
look like a fucking American. No, no no no no don't take the tag off
we're taking it back yeah oh my god jordan we spent so much money on these halloween decorations
and i kept the tag on all of them so we could get our money okay but i like we literally spent like
five hundred dollars four hundred dollars and also it would have been 500, but I pocketed a lot of stuff on all of this stuff just for today.
Okay.
So we're taking most of it back.
How much coffee is in you?
I had a lot because I stayed up late having sugar.
You look so suspicious taking all of it back.
I mean, you can take one thing or two things back.
We're taking the skeleton.
Boom.
Boom.
That's big money right there.
Yep.
Yep. Taking a skeleton. Boom. Boom. That's big money right there. Yep. Yep. Taking
a
spider. Boom. Yep.
Taking back
a bat.
Boom. What else did we take?
Oh, the light. This is ours. Yeah, this is our
guy. Well, we've moved on to another conversation.
Ian's cat took a bite out of him.
We don't need a list of the things.
You're going to take it all back.
That's great.
What do we have on this podcast?
We have a theme today or is there something?
Oh, by your face.
No, that is saying no.
What a funny joke.
No, we always dress like this and look like this.
Okay.
There's no theme.
It's pretty much.
Oh, you mean like, is there a shtick?
Do we have a game we're playing? No, but we can play a game. Me and you, I have a game that you'd love. It's pretty much. Oh, you mean like, is there a shtick? Do we have a game we're playing?
No, but we can play a game.
Me and you, I have a game that you'd love.
It's called Next.
Remember that game on MTV?
You be the boy, I be the girl.
And every time I say next, you have to switch characters.
Let's flip that.
Okay.
I like that move, brother.
Oh, it's so hard.
Oh, it's so hard.
Yeah.
I just made you see.
Never mind. Forget it. Forget hard. Oh, it's so hard. Yeah. I just made you sing. Never mind.
Forget it.
Forget it.
Forget it.
You're literally, you just were like,
could you just do carriages for us while we watch you on land?
That's all I wanted.
This is a dream I've always had.
That's all I do.
I used to play it with my friend where we'd be stuck in her twin bed sleeping
and we'd just go face to face and I'd just be like,
hey, I'm Richard.
And she'd go next and I'd be like, oh, and we would switch
back and forth forever.
Great practice, right?
It's actually an improv game called Next.
Oh, really? Oh, New Choice it's called.
That's right.
Then you go like, here at this hamburger
place, we need you to make these
hamburgers under a minute.
And the audience goes, New Choice.
This is a vial of deadly bees.
You have to eat the bees.
And they go, new choice.
And then you play out the whole scene.
Wow.
Until people go like, I'm bored, new choice.
And then you go do a different thing.
Improv is fun to do.
It's not fun to watch.
I love improv.
It's more fun to do than watch.
Oh my God, you're like fully autistic today.
It's really fun. Well, I feel
like improv ruins improv for
people because people see improv and
they see really bad improv and they go
all improv sucks. It's like, no, you're just
what? That's like going to an open mic
and being like, stand-up comedy is the
worst. It's like, well, yeah, you picked a shit
night to go. Well, what's those guys' names?
Schnickety and Snicknog?
Schnickety and Snicknog. You know, the guys who did it on Netflix?
No.
The two guys who did improv? You don't know Schnickety?
Did they edit it, though? Because then it's not
improv. When you improv and
they edit the show, that's no longer improv.
Wouldn't you agree? I would agree.
Because that's just edited to a thing.
How do you feel about people editing their specials heavily?
I'm going to do that.
Are you making a special? I just shot at the Mothership Joe Rogan's Club. How do you feel about people editing their specials heavily? I'm going to do that. Are you making a special?
I just shot at the Mothership Joe Rogan's Club.
How do you feel about it?
You have to be nice.
I'll say what I feel.
No, I'll be totally honest.
I think it's an amazingly set up club.
I think right now there's a lot of tourists going.
I didn't promote the shows really because they just sell out. so i didn't feel like i think i should have should have to get like your audience there but it actually turned out
i taped five shows so i got enough you know yeah oh wow but um i music and the board i did some
music yeah i actually really liked doing huh. Looping? I didn't loop.
Although I think I might bring that back.
I did that a long time ago.
Yeah.
And it was this thing that went viral.
And then Reggie Watts started doing it.
And then I was like, oh, he kind of cornered that.
And then people would write under my video,
you stole this from Reggie Watts.
No, you're the guy.
We'll upload date.
Let me tell you something, brother.
Someone that knows something about stealing, he stole it from you, brother. stole it from you brother no he definitely did the thing that you like doing
that was a jk music everybody i sang a few songs and i'm now i'm all over the place because now
i'm like going to nashville to record some songs i'm writing and then i'm like i gotta focus i was
gonna do something else i was gonna do a podcast and i was like i should make a a craig movie and i was like i gotta do i gotta make a keep my uh youtube going with some youtube
shows and i'm like i gotta no i gotta edit that and so it's um i i i'm paralyzed yeah
with indecision well what do you do what do? What do you focus on? Because I give everything 1.8% of my focus.
And then so...
I think you fix your circadian rhythm
and wake up with the sunrise
and fall asleep with the moon at darkness.
I mean, you might be right.
I would get more done.
That's what they say.
But for stand-ups, there is...
Don't you ever wake up in the morning
and you're like, now that I'm up early,
I have eight hours to dick around. Yeah. i have crippling panic if i wake up too early and
i don't have something to do for a couple hours i'm like what do i do i don't know i don't know
yeah just be but then if i wake up at two like today jumped on the bike came here we're ready
i got dressed in two seconds so there is something good about waking up late because it gets you
right into gear because you feel ashamed of yourself oh yeah because you have a little
spring in your step
but I'll tell you this stand up
it doesn't quite hit
it doesn't quite hit like
hit me right
like Bill Burr or
Mark Maron these monologists
yes you know I don't really like
writing a monologue
from me I just don't think
about writing those i'd like to create scenes and you don't have like the the the uh societal
isn't it crazy how we wear underwear i don't feel like people need to hear what i have to say at all
so i i do like characters and then yes stand-up doesn't quite fit it's like sketches more
my thing but you get to make money you got to do the this the stand-up doesn't quite fit it's like sketches more i think but you get to make
money you got to do the this the stand-up thing so i'm always trying to square peg a round hole
why don't you just do characters on your when you tour i do a little bit but it's just you need a
podcast it's a kyle dunnigan podcast well yeah that does That's another thing of it where you got to crank out
stuff every week because I stopped.
I worked very hard
and did a lot of sketch stuff, but it takes a long
time to do sketch. To make even
a minute can be
a hundred hours. It's crazy.
You watch SNL, they got people rag on the show, but
that's the best sketch writers
scoured across the country.
And it's still not
great and they're working 23 out of 24 hours a day for seven days all yeah week and there's
a rosebud's baby came out with a little sketchboard yeah yeah so you go oh then there's two maybe two
good sketches a week they take two weeks off every two weeks it's a whole summer off that's just the
nature of it so the algorithm doesn't give a shit oh so if you're
a sketch guy like me you just and you need a break it's just like they send you a letter just
fuck you yeah youtube and instagram what do they do oh because if you take a break and you go back
in you're fucked with the algorithm right like everything i post now i'm like i feel like i'm
starting over again and i gotta do a podcast this a podcast. This feels like sketch and we're just hanging
out. I know, I got to find, yeah.
A couple times a week and then we're just forced to
do it because it's a weekly thing because
I have severe, we both have ADD.
Yes. May I say something? Yes.
You got a question? Oh, I got
more of a statement there, brother.
Oh,
you've got a burning question.
I got a burning question.
The cat cane really goes.
It does.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
It's a little disturbing that it is not with the outfit and that it is your daily weapon,
toy,
crutch.
This is crazy.
Okay.
Keep going.
Thank you very much.
You said that you do like a million different things.
An eighth of like work.
What are these, giblets?
Like on a turkey?
Sorry.
It's a scarf.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
It's a scarf.
That's what you give to the ladies in the front row.
Yep.
They go nuts.
This looks like something that happens on a bird.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Basically, what I was saying was that you said
that you give an eighth of your energy towards things and you're so
good at what you did I do I can't imagine
if you gave a quarter
that's very nice of you to say I
just I don't know what to focus on because
I feel like I want to do
one more thing and then I can retire but
which is it like
a movie or like
podcast I can just do I probably just do that
it's not hard just do that. It's not hard.
What do you want to do when you retire?
Birdwatch?
I'm like
into charity.
Really?
Well,
I'm like a fake it till you make it
kind of guy and like I fake that I'm
into charity. Like the secret charity
like I tell people I do it because then it'll happen. happen wait so you don't do charity no but I like I the secret
it like I talk about that I do it I tell everyone I do you know but it's like you know the secret
you just imagine you're doing charity then like it just kind of happens. Yeah. I mean like it hasn't yet. That's really good.
Everybody,
you're like,
I donate millions of dollars every year
to broken children.
All I do is like help kids.
I like that.
So you lie.
No,
it's the secret,
dude.
So you want to Google the secret
and lie.
Before you talk to me,
understand like what I'm talking about.
I have sex with many different races.
There you go.
Were you a one one race lady yeah
latino white just the whites that feels so racist i know that's what i'm saying brother
like i'm trust me i'm i'm picking up the slack over here brother yeah he's got it he's got what
i'm don't worry i'll spread it around enough for all of us. Someone's interested.
Okay.
You know what's a
dark thought I have
is like you think
about yourself
and this is me
but most of your
existence on this planet
for thousands of years
will be this.
Yeah.
You just like
And then they all
look the same.
Just us three
we're having a good time
but for millennia
we'll just be
still like this guy going
Yeah. And we'll all look the
same. It'll be really hard to decipher.
Yeah. Like oh Jordan's hips
are slightly wider.
Yeah.
I think you start a podcast with
yourself have guests on like I'm thinking like a podcast with yourself,
have guests on.
I'm thinking like a between two ferns kind of thing
where you're a, you know what I mean?
Between two scales.
You between two skeletons.
You don't have to abbreviate scales.
Do you know what a scale is?
Skeleton?
No, a scale is like a term for like
an old burned out, shot out New Yorker.
Oh, an in scale.
Like,
nice.
What about this?
I'm going to say something profound that I thought of yesterday.
Yes,
I'm ready.
Honestly,
I thought this is profound,
but I don't know if it is.
And you guys will let me know.
Okay.
I've adjusted to hear profoundness.
So please tell.
Oh,
good.
Okay.
I'm in profound.
And I know you're Elvis,
but also be serious.
Elvis,
like Elvis taking seriously.
You got it.
I like that.
Okay.
Yes.
So is it an accident that the first species on this planet to really understand that they're
mortal and they're going to die is the first species that laughs.
I think you just blew
my fucking mind there, brother.
Is that profound
or is that stupid?
I don't think it's stupid,
but I do think other animals
have.
Not really.
You are sorely mistaken, mama.
They kind of know they're going to die, too. They're kind of
knowing and kind of starting to laugh.
It goes with the whole thing.
And then when you really,
really understand it...
Right. Then you have to let out
tiny little screams.
Yeah, then you're doing, you know,
sketches and podcasts. That's very...
Let me tell you something.
The animals don't laugh.
They make laughing noises.
But they don't, if they see another animal fall down the stairs
and they're carrying like a tray of food,
they're not having that response.
Well, there's some kind of, a little bit of a laugh out of a chimpanzee,
a little bit.
They're kind of, but they're also sort of aware
that something very horrible is coming. You know, know they do have like we're on a roller coaster
but their laughter isn't like a a i was saying they don't quite respond we're we're really well
some people don't actually but in general we're we're really aware we push it down and then like
you know good and evil or light and dark like that like laughter
comes out of the understanding of that there's a guy daniel dennett i think daniel dennett who
wrote a book about how everything we do is in response to that we're gonna die i hundred i
never read it but i totally agree with you should you should look at it it's so good and it's like
everything we do every romantic relationship every where it's like the things that we all equate to
like biology and stuff he's like no it's because we know i and we rarely talk about that we're gonna die but it's
we're obsessed with it and there's some evidence i mean the the cultures that that accept death
more like they bring the body out and they play with it for a week and they're like
they're less stressed out and they don't elevate people like the Kardashians. We make these people like this is going to live forever.
These icons,
these movie stars,
because we're trying to make something immortal that looks like us.
And in other countries,
they just are more relaxed as they're just accepting it,
pushing it away.
What is it?
What you resist persists.
Would they say Elvis?
Who takes it out and plays with dead bodies?
I mean,
there's a lot of cultures who do that. They just
take it out and put it on a bike.
They just play with it for a week.
They carry them around.
They have little villages.
They put them in the air.
They're dead for a while. They do. Because they're just like
they're accepting of it.
And there's a way. It's a form
of mourning, brother. That's right.
It is. It's a way of mourning, brother. That's right. It is.
It's a way of accepting what once was, never will, shall be.
And they play with it and they go, we're going to let this exist and happen.
It's a rotting corpse?
I was kind of making a point there, but I'll let you continue the conversation.
Here's a fun fact about Elvis.
Yes, come on now.
Tell me about myself, brother. When you walk into Graceland When you walk in the door Yeah
You are standing right underneath where Elvis died
No
His bathroom was right above the front
This was him
Oh, when you walk into his house
You're right underneath where he passed
You know how he died, right?
Where he passed a shit and passed his life
He did not pass a shit
Oh, he didn't pass
That was a problem
That was a problem
He was constipated because he was on Oxycontin
Maybe you will die like Elvis because you're in there for
some time. I poop a lot, brother.
For a long time. Got a lot of things wrong with my
belly.
I could fix that for you in two weeks.
It's just your diet.
Yeah, it is your diet. Tell me now.
It's your diet and all the drugs.
No drugs. Drug-free.
Eight years, brother. No booze.
No drugs. Just sweets, cigarettes years, brother. No booze, no drugs, just sweets,
cigarettes, and old poontangs.
And just some poontang from women and men.
Here's your diet.
And it's very simple.
Only eat things that
seem to taste disgusting to you.
Don't put anything in there. If you put something in your mouth
and you feel any joy, spit it out.
And you will poop really well.
Yeah.
Athletic greens.
I'd rather eat good stuff that tastes good than have regular poops.
That's why you're in the bathroom all the time.
Good.
Because I like pleasure.
I mean, you're the one marshmallow guy.
You know about that?
No.
What's that?
With the kids?
The kids.
What?
The kids.
The marshmallow. What is the one marshmallow? Wow. We should play that game with the kids the kids the kids what the kids the
marshmallow what is the one marshmallow wow we should play that game with ian right now
i mean we don't even have to it would be seconds it's a tell me the 70s they actually did studies
on on kids that were kind of mean but they they really were enlightening they would bring a kid
a marshmallow they go hey here's a marshmallow. I have a kid loves marshmallows. Yeah.
They go,
you can have it now,
but you only get one.
If you wait,
we'll give you two marshmallows.
And the kids who just ate the marshmallow right away,
it turned out to be fucking losers.
Like, because everything in life is,
if you hold off,
you get a better thing,
you know,
with the other was like,
don't eat, you know, resist your pleasure stuff. thing. You know, with the other was like, don't eat,
you know,
resist your pleasure stuff.
Right.
Isn't that how it is?
But how long,
how long between the first marshmallow and more marshmallows do they have to
wait?
Like a fucking week?
No,
he's already upset for them.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's a good question,
but it's just a kid's brain.
They said,
I don't really think that deep.
They'll be like,
okay, I'll wait. I want to, and I'll just have a little bit of, but how long of a wait, but it's just a kid's brain. They don't really think that deep. They'll be like, okay, I'll
wait. I want to, and I'll just have a little bit of...
Yeah, but how long of a wait?
But it's a kid experiment. It's a good question,
but they did it on kids, so they don't really
think as deep as you.
Well, let's call up some fucking kids!
Ian, they went like this. They went, we're going to bring more marshmallows.
We'll be back. That's what I think happened.
And then they left.
And literally within seconds, one of them
is like...
You know what study
you'll like? Don't point at me.
Sorry. I'm really sorry.
You know what? I have... Hey, do you need to
read this to deal with her?
Wow, what is supposed to go in there?
The handbook for the recently deceased?
I'm recently deceased, guys.
Enough of that bit.
More! More!
Explain the marshmallow experiment as Adam Sandler.
So you get one marshmallow.
Delicious and nutritious marshmallow.
You're better at being him than he is.
You're doing it better, Adam Sandler, than Adam Sandler does.
Thank you.
There's one study where these
two monkeys, one of them gets grapes and one of them
they both get grapes. Oh, I love a grape
monkey because they love grapes.
They love them. And then he goes,
give me your rock back. Give me the rock and I'll give you
the grape. So the monkey's like, here's a rock.
No, no, no, no. They say this out loud.
Just, I'm going to talk to you.
Okay, so then he's
like, so the monkey's like, here's
the rock. Thank you for the grape. And then one monkey starts getting cucumber slices.
And this is how Franz DeWall, I think figured out that there was something that basically
primates have a sense of fairness, which is crazy. Cause then this monkey would take the cucumbers
and whip it at the lady giving the rock because he saw that his buddy was getting grapes so he would not eat in order to be like you're a bitch and a whore give me the grape and he'd go over to the
other monkey who's like and be like yeah you should watch that study it's so funny interesting
isn't that wild so he's literally it's not that first he tried throwing the rock and when that
didn't work he took the the food that he had which means he'll have zero to get the grape.
Because he was like, you're a bitch.
He's getting a grape and I know it.
And he's taunting him.
He's like, I love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really good.
I fucking love grapes.
They love them.
That's how you get a monkey to just murder.
Yeah.
If you can teach them, like, if you kill that, I'll give you a grape.
They would do it.
Oh, they love eating a grape with their little hands.
Raccoons, too, love a grape.
Do they?
Oh, they love it.
There's this video of a raccoon with all these grapes,
and the owner keeps trying to take one,
and the raccoon's like, what are you?
Whoa.
And they have it voiced over, so he's like, hey, man, Jesus,
get off of me.
It's really good.
It's really, really good.
I tell you, no matter what I make, I watch this,
and I'm like, I'll never make something that's funny.
It's this raccoon voiceover grape video or whatever the video is.
Yeah, the voiceovers are of animals.
It's hard to beat those.
One time I went on a date with a guy and I really, he just was a huge goober.
But we put on Animal Planet and he started doing voiceovers for all the animals.
And I was laughing so hard that I was like, I'm going to have sex with you.
That's good.
The other night.
Well, that doesn't happen with men, by the way.
Yeah.
Like I've never been with a woman that I wasn't attracted to.
And then she started doing a funny bit.
Yeah.
I'm going to fuck this girl.
Isn't that unfair?
The only time I can do it is if I'm on a friend date.
Like if I'm just friends with somebody.
And then I do a bit that's like about sex.
Because then they accidentally like they're like, oh, I forgot you have sex parts.
And I'm like, yes, I do.
Funny pussy jokes.
That is the way that is.
That is the way.
And as you, you subtly, I had a friend, kind of a pervy guy, but he thought about this
stuff and he went on the phone.
He'd be like, uh, he'd run water.
He wouldn't be taking a tub.
He'd be like, oh, I'm running water.
I'm taking a, uh, uh, going to the tub soon.
So she just would imagine he would get her to imagine him naked.
This guy was a sociopath. But he had all these things like that.
He read the game. Neil Strauss is the game.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Are you describing a friend of yours as a sociopath and describing the same behavior you just described?
Well, I'm not doing mind manipulation.
I'm being like, hey,
you have a penis and I have
a vagina. Funny bit. What if they touch?
That's funny. That's hilarious.
See, I'm less subtle. I go
knock, knock. Who's there to suck my dick?
You do not. You go,
do you want to come over and just watch a movie and cuddle?
Maybe possibly. But I do just want
to cuddle. I didn't want to have
sex. I had a girl over to cuddle time.
You are really. And we didn't, I had a lot
of
espresso mama.
And not enough sleep.
But you're talking about like,
so me and this girl, we watched The King of Comedy,
right? And at the end, it was like time to
put on another movie. And
instead of putting on Animal Planet and being like
funny, funny, fun time, I was like, let's watch this.
And it was a documentary on the Oklahoma City bombing.
Nice.
And she was not into it.
And she was talking.
I kept being like, no, no, no, no.
You got to listen to what McVeigh did.
Actually, Ruby Ridge was a lead up to Oklahoma City.
I'm a bad movie combo sex person.
I always want to finish the movie.
Oh, really? Yeah, I want to see what's going on. I'm a bad movie combo sex person. I always want to finish the movie.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I want to see what's going on.
I'll be like,
oh, that's kind of hot,
though, and a woman's
just not interested at all.
She's like watching a movie.
Yeah, I'm on a huge
amount of Prozac,
so sex is really
just a silly little thing.
It's a silly little game.
It's like, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Finger and hers
like starting a lawnmower
that won't kick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, clean it up, clean it up. Clean it up. Clean's cute. Finger and hers like starting a lawnmower that won't kick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Clean it up.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Yeah.
What is that?
The most interesting transition for me is like when you're dating, you don't know somebody,
and then you're like, hey, let's go to a museum or whatever.
Like, there's wine tasting.
You're doing all this shit.
You never know.
And then you gotta go,
oh, just come
over and we'll watch a movie.
You just go right to it, I think.
Just come over.
It's such an awkward...
The best thing is you work together.
You're doing a report
and the boss is like, you guys work on this report
and you go to Cleveland.
It kind of happens. You're like a stranger on an app
and then you're like where how many siblings do you have oh yeah it's like if i get asked that
question i talk about that on stage the how many siblings do you have that i would rather rip my
eyeballs out i would rather rape i'd rather have rape there's something about how many siblings
you have that's aggressive and And I've never asked that.
Okay.
You never ask enough questions.
I bet.
I bet you don't ask a woman enough.
I think you're wrong.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Look at him recognizing something about you all very wrong.
I asked too many questions.
They tell me to stop.
That's my favorite Elvis song.
There's like a line where you're interviewing them.
But also, like, he didn't ask me any questions to like, I felt like I was being interviewed.
You got to really read that needle.
I went out with this girl once and I go, you pick a restaurant you like.
So she was like, oh, there's italian place i always wanted to try it's
the most expensive restaurant in all of los angeles she didn't tell me that i just found
out when i got there yeah and then she was like oh i'll have this and this and try a bit of this
and um we're there for an hour and a half and i and i go oh she hasn't asked me one question
about me not one an hour and a half of talking.
And then I got interested in how long this could go.
And then she.
What is she doing?
Just.
No, she was like.
Talking about herself.
Me, me, me, me, me, me.
Los Angeles.
Los Angeles.
Am I right?
I swear to God, it's a real thing.
So then she goes, oh, my favorite city, full wide world is Portland.
And I was in Portland like four days earlier.
I'm like, if I bring up, I was in Portland
and she has no follow-up,
then this woman is fucking out.
She's insane.
And I go, oh my God, I was just in Portland four days ago.
And she goes, they have a mall there that-
Wow.
Check, $280. Oh, wow. They have a mall there that... Check.
$280.
Oh!
Wow.
I would kick her in the head with my blue suede shoes.
I would be like, let's split it.
Let's split.
I think I'd be like, throw your card down.
I just...
But thank you so much for the interview.
Yeah, there's that delicate line.
Was she hot, though?
She was...
You know what?
She got less hot
as the thing wore on. That's a hard
thing to do.
Get less hot. I think that women
are also getting empowered to a degree
that they don't, this is going to sound fucked up.
Break it down for us, Beetle. Well, I was talking
to Tyler Fisher about this. Come on, break it
down, Beetlejuice. And I just feel like women,
they used to be coveted because they would provide you with a child,
right? And they'd be like, don't worry, I'll raise it in my belly and then I'll have it.
It'll be great. And we'll have a relationship and I'll be the.
And now it's like just some woman who's literally your equal.
She is, but she still wants the worshipfulness that a mother would get. Right.
So she's like, so she's like, I'm a woman.
So I deserve to speak the entire time.
And I did it. And it's like, well, you're just literally an equal now.
Now we're on the same level. We're both just hustling hustling yeah some people haven't made that transition it's it's
interesting yeah what are you talking about okay let me explain it again yeah okay back in the back
back when you'd meet me and i'd be like there's a possibility that i'll rear your child yeah like
that's amazing and i'll be able to put my dick inside you and you'll raise my child you'll be
faithful it'll be nice we'll have a family and now it's like, now I'm showing up to dinner with you. I don't want any kids. I'm a,
I'm a, I'm business, but I still want you to worship me because I'm a woman. Right. And it's
like, well, you kind of got worshiped because you were the womb. And it's, it isn't, it's,
it's just this cult. There's some cultures that aren't like that, but it is come comes back to
partners. And you used to be like, I got
to get us food, and I got to go out there, and it's
dangerous. You needed the guy to go
get the buffalo, and she was
like, I'm going to take care of this thing
and raise the baby, and then you both were
barely surviving. For most of
history, that's how it's been.
And up until recently, then it's like,
Now you got guys wearing turtlenecks with fanny
packs around their shoulders, and you'd... Please sittlenecks with fanny packs around their shoulders.
Please sit down.
He's wearing glitter.
That was Elvis.
It's really nice.
I like it a lot. Is it Lululemon?
It looks like that. You know what I mean?
Microfiber.
You know what's funny? A buddy of mine just showed me his fanny pack and he keeps a gun in it.
I could easily put a gun. I probably will get a gun at some point.
So listen, just to sum up,
my brother is married to someone from another country.
I mean, she got here when she was younger, you know,
but the traditions of that culture makes more sense.
Like she appreciated that he worked all fucking day.
You know? And she would
when he worked nights, she would
get up and make him a sandwich.
And people, like women in America,
like what?
But no, he loves her
for that and she loves him and they're taking care of each
other. And this country's lost
that. Because we're a broken
culture, a degraded society and we worship
the wrong things stop screaming i'm just saying marriage should be between a man and a woman i
don't think we were i think that it's fine to have a culture where things have leveled out and
everything's androgynous but you can't expect like like there are a lot of women who are like and he
needs to buy me this and buy me dinner and it's like no you guys are literally on the same
and they're the same ones that'll talk shit
on like sex workers or
chicks like that
here's the thing I will
buy the meals in the
beginning because I think women
do have to they spend more money on like
nails and all that stuff period
stuff
it's just attractive to pick
up the check too you know what happened i was at a poker game with like a guy i was super in love
with and then he gets a phone call from a girl that he was dating we weren't together we'd broken
up years ago and and she's crying and she's like my bike got stolen the wheels got stolen and i
watched him like light up he wasn't that into girl, but I watched him like go into man mode
and he ran out the door to rescue her.
And I was like, wow, there is like-
I got a fake injuries now.
No, but there was like a feeling where I was like,
I would never do that.
If somebody stole my bike, I'd be like, you bitch.
And I'd figure it out.
I would never call somebody crying
and being like, this happened.
And I was like, and that is such a aphrodisiac.
You know what I mean?
To need, except for with you,
he saved a girl the other day.
Caught the ick.
Oh, sorry.
It works both ways.
I liked that.
I liked having you be needed for sure.
Yeah, of course.
That's a thing.
Everybody wants to be needed. Sorry to interrupt the king.
Please, please, by all means.
But I don't know where I heard this,
but they say it's good in the beginning to man or woman to have the other person do you a favor because it makes them feel good and also
makes them go like i must like this person i'm i'm at kinko's making a copy of or whatever yes
neurolinguistic programming oh oh can you uh break down for the king? I spent a lot of time
singing, not too much time learning.
It's in the secret
or in the Neil Strauss thing
where you embed
imprinting. You basically imprint.
You can like...
I think you're talking about good old-fashioned
manipulation.
NLP is manipulation. It's very bad.
But that's the bathtub guy.
But that's the same thing with being like I'm going to have him do me a favor so that I imprint that he is like helping me in his life.
That's NLP. It's like you're programming somebody to.
Here's where I think it's OK to do that. If you like somebody and they just don't seem to like you at all.
You know what I mean? You've tried to be nice. Yeah.
You said, hey, you think you look
pretty or whatever you did.
And then, and they're just not
getting it. Then you could be like,
in small favor, like,
can you hold this while I
do, you know, I gotta go do, can you just
hold this?
A small rock. I saw something
by the way, I'll tell you who it is after.
But I don't know if they want me to publicly say it.
Oh, we can bleep it.
But anyway.
Yes.
So we're at this table.
Yes.
And you and Jerry Seinfeld.
No, no, I wasn't.
I wasn't a famous person.
But this girl.
How would we know?
Oh, we know.
OK. OK. OK. Can we ble we know? Oh, we know. Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Can we believe it?
Yeah.
So we go to,
uh,
the,
uh,
comic comedy,
like roast of some,
someone,
Oh,
Charlie Sheehan.
And it was,
uh,
me and,
and we're on at this table and looks,
you know,
very much like a lesbian.
Yes. And so there was a very attractive woman at the table and looks very much like a lesbian.
And so there was a very attractive woman
at the table.
And you could just tell this woman was like,
this lesbian is going to be so into me.
She just had this like, oh.
So takes her chair.
The girl's here. And she goes,
like really loudly,
just put her back to this person.
And I watched this because I've seen her do this many times.
And she was so the chair.
No,
just like people like go towards her and need approval from her.
Like it was a little thing she would do.
And it was a little things that,
so I,
and I've seen it,
I seen it before.
So I just watched,
I was like,
Oh,
this is good.
Cause I just saw the girl be like,
that's not possible. I'm really hot. Right. How?, so I just watched it. I was like, oh, this is good. I just saw the girl be like, that's not possible.
I'm really hot, right?
Wow.
So then I just, this girl's like, and then she goes, hi, I have to go to the restroom.
Can you just watch my purse?
No one needed to watch the purse.
It's like a very.
Oh, they're NLPing each other back and forth.
Well, yeah, she was trying to get her to do her favor or whatever,
watch the purse.
And he goes, no.
Wow.
And they dated for two years.
Oh, my God.
No way.
Really?
The girl couldn't.
This is LA.
The girl couldn't, like, handle.
Like, I need to pull from this person.
That's amazing.
They really dated for two years?
Yeah.
Whoa.
They always are.
They always are, right? My mom does that. She always turns hot straight girls. It? Yeah. Whoa. They always are. They always are, right?
My mom does that.
She always turns hot straight girls.
It's crazy.
Oh.
She's very similar.
Okay.
Yeah, probably why I was obsessed with her growing up.
Yeah, yeah.
But she, yeah, she always does that.
A woman will come in and she'll be like, I don't have time to talk to you.
And they're like, what?
Wait, wait, what?
And then they become obsessed with her.
And my mom is so mean to them that they become more obsessed.
And now they're coming to me being like,
how do I get close to your mother?
And I'm like,
well,
it would help if baby,
baby bear had some cookies made for baby bears.
Happy mama.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
Baby bear PS five.
I think men rarely.
When there's someone who's there is really attractive.
They get,
they don't get that much from men being honest and like ignoring them.
I guess that's attractive or you need approval.
Cause you're like,
this is an honest person.
That's what it is.
A lot of pretty,
but like this person's really like not trying to fuck me and I need their
approval.
All this stuff confuses me and I don't like it.
That just like people,
if you like them and You're a fool, Elvis.
I'd rather be a smiling fool than a frowning cynic.
Yo, Elvis, you dated a 13-year-old girl?
Times were different back then, brother.
Did he date a 13-year-old girl?
Speaking of Jerry Seinfeld, my God.
Lisa Marie was 13 when they When they met
But they ended up together for a long time
Until she was 14 and a half
Elvis was a good man
I mean google me on this
But
How old was Lisa Marie Presley
When Elvis met her
But he was like her one and his one and only
Right
Wow
I thought he had a wife when he met her.
No.
He had like a girlfriend before, at least Marie.
She was in grade school.
13 is pretty, if you've ever talked to a 13-year-old, it's kind of hard.
Yeah, it's pretty fucking weird.
It's kind of weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Elvis probably doesn't strike me as quite
an intellectual.
How old was she then?
Oh.
How old was he?
How old was she
when they met?
I don't believe this.
I think you're spreading
some disinformation
about the king
over here now.
Well, I knew my stepbrother
when I was 11 and then we had sex later when I was 18.
Priscilla was 14 years old when she first met the singer.
And how old was Elvis?
Come on, you're a wizard.
I'm reading a lot right now.
No, but we were in the same house when I was like 10, 11, and then we had sex way later.
The King's got a question.
Where do you take a dog when it needs to get a haircut?
Are you telling a joke?
Is this a joke?
Where do you take a dog when it needs to get a haircut, brother?
I've never seen him like this.
I'm sorry.
She was 14 years old when they met.
He was 24.
Always saying I was groomed.
What?
She was 14 and he was 24. 14, 24.
That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad.
That is inexcusable
for anyone there. I think it's excusable.
I mean, they knew each other. They grew up in the same
house together. You know, they saw
she saw him grow.
Oh, sorry, sorry.
Anyway.
Back to the book about dead people.
I broke it.
Kyle, you do impressions.
Do an impression of me leaving this earth.
Let me see if I can do an impression of you.
Let me see.
Is this my impression of you?
You're nailing it.
I feel like I've had sex with my brother a few times.
It's not good.
Don't be offended.
That's not good.
It's not.
I don't have a nasal voice.
I have a raspy, tarry voice.
Yes, my guitar is upstairs. I feel like I should have played some songs.
It's bad, Jordan.
That's why you shouldn't be offended.
If it was good, then you could be like,
what the fuck?
It's pretty bad.
I got a motorcycle
and I fucked my brother.
What kind of life am I living here?
That's not good.
You don't sound like that at all.
Do him. I don't know how Ian even talks
That's not how I talk man
Hey man listen
It would really mean a lot if you could grab me a coffee
I know you have your hands full with all of my shit
This is an argument we got in a month ago
And she keeps bringing it up
Not cool
It would really mean a lot
It would really mean a lot if you could fly to the moon
and back.
It would really mean a lot.
That would mean a lot to me.
If you could sleep over
in my house
and keep me company
for the next eight nights.
I talk like a legal dwarf.
That's what he's saying.
That's a legal dwarf.
I know that.
Hey,
get me a coffee.
I know that.
Legal dwarf?
Can that be the name of the episode
Legal dwarf is so funny
I met a woman in the audience
And she goes I was like how tall are you
And she was like four or whatever
And I was like is that legally a dwarf
And she was like technically
And I was like oh yes
So 100% legal dwarf is what you are
Oh my god
I picked her up.
Did she think her voice was going to add a couple inches?
I had someone in the audience.
You do something, you try it,
and then you go, oh, I never think I could try this.
But I did a thing where my legs are really tiny,
and I could do a TED Talk about a guy who was in a motorcycle.
I start crossing my legs like this.
Wow.
And I'm like, well, when I turn the corner and I just felt a weird feeling from the audience.
I was like, oh, that bit doesn't work.
It's too realistic.
That looks realistic.
Well, what it was was in row three.
You know, it's like, yeah, those crowds, you can't see them, but they can see each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no.
The captain. I can't see them, but they can see each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no. The captain.
I can't, yeah.
But I was the victim.
Yeah.
In my bed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's true.
Yeah.
I've had that happen.
I've had one girl where I was like,
I was like, so you have a brother.
I fuck my brother.
Where's your brother?
And she was like, hey.
And I was like, no, where is he?
And she was like, he's dead.
I've had that happen.
I've had that happen like nine times.
You forget people die.
I always forget people die.
It's crazy.
I had one guy,
I was mocking him.
You're all gonna die.
That'd be a good promo.
That would be a good promo.
That's great.
You're welcome.
Thank you so much.
We can't keep him?
How much is this?
How much do you think?
Look at the tag it's on the front
How much is that?
He has no penis
You don't have a penis when you die
It just gets eaten away
He has an asshole
I'm doing anal work
God we're disgusting We're a disgusting group That's not disgusting I'm doing anal work.
God, we're disgusting.
We're a disgusting group.
That's not disgusting.
No, everything disgusting is gone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We are disgusting.
Yes.
No, nothing's disgusting.
Living a life without consciousness.
I want to talk about consciousness. I know we've traversed many topics
that have nothing to do with each other.
That's kind of the show.
I want to move towards consciousness.
You nailed the show.
We talked about buttholes
and all this other stuff.
Delicious.
Do you believe in free will?
Are you a no free will guy?
I don't.
It's such an unpopular thing.
But we definitely don't have free will.
I'm the same.
You are both wrong.
Yes, yes, yes.
You're wrong.
Yes.
Take a couple of these facts into consideration.
All right, come on.
Let's fact it up.
Come on.
Now Elvis is gone and Ian is in the building.
I knew he'd be a no free will guy.
Come on.
All right, come on.
Number one.
Number one it up.
You have to understand
there's certain things that you don't want to believe
with every fiber of your being.
People don't want to believe that we just die and don't exist.
So that's why most people believe we go to heaven.
Even though there's so much proof we don't do that.
You could have amnesia and you forget who you are
but suddenly you die and all the blood's gone
and you remember your whole fucking family.
But most would believe heaven
because you want to believe it.
Now, I would say even a more fervent belief
that you need to have is that you have free will.
So you have to start this conversation
understanding that you want to believe it so fucking bad
that you've got to just calm down
and think about the facts of this situation.
Fact me up. Fact me up. Fact number one. Fact me up. the facts of this situation. Fact me up.
Fact me up.
Fact number one.
Fact me up.
Shut up, Beatle.
Fact me up.
Okay.
Are you here with us now?
Elvis has left the building.
We're not going to be emotional.
He's upset.
We're not going to be emotional.
Number one.
Yes.
You don't think your thoughts.
That's something you can observe right now.
They pop into your head
I'm thinking my thought right now
and I'm narrating it to you
next fact that I will dispel
you're not choosing it
don't think of an elephant right now
I'm choosing an elephant
do not picture an elephant
I'm not picturing an elephant
I'm picturing a fucking donkey
because I'm looking at two fucking jackets
he's very upset
he wants to believe it's so bad
it's crazy
his whole world is crumbling.
Like, he just took DMT.
His whole world, like,
it's all pixelating
and falling in front of his face
because he knows.
No, no, I just have glitter on my glasses.
Oh, it is glitter.
If I lived every day that you lived,
I would be exactly where you are being you.
Yeah, there's no judgment.
It's very...
No, no, no.
There is free will
because I could beat both of you
over the fucking head right now with this wooden
khaki and I choose not to.
I could very much. I just made a choice.
Here's
where you're getting confused.
I love you.
You're assuming your
thoughts come from you deciding
something but they don't.
That's the end of the argument right there.
They just don't. they come from your subconscious.
You will notice them.
You didn't even take time to see how it works, but you will know.
I mean, we can do a little experiment.
I would love that.
Um,
name.
Okay.
Choose the best three
movies of all time
Sam Harris
in my opinion or like
what I think
the best three movies of all time are
my opinion
that I choose
not what I think
would be in like the criterion
top three.
Yeah. Okay. And this just knows how
Go ahead.
Ghostbusters. Okay.
A league of their own.
Good fellas.
Okay. Good choices.
This is a Sam
Harris experiment. So if I get it wrong let me know because I actually don't really know it that well. I know. I don a Sam Harris experiment. If I get it wrong,
let me know because I actually don't really know it that well.
I know. I don't know it that well either.
Oh, but I thought your subconscious
knew it for you.
Why do people get so
different? Every time I get this argument, it's like they
burn their house down.
You guys are dumb, but it's a bit.
It's a thing where people get really religious and you go
if you weren't if you were more sure of yourself, you wouldn't get upset.
He isn't sure of himself.
That's why he's so upset.
No, no.
It's why religious people get so upset.
This is like a bit.
You whacked me hard.
Whack me hard.
I don't want to whack you hard.
I have control.
A penis.
Okay, so why didn't you choose Chinatown?
Because I've never seen it.
Okay. So it didn't pop into your head.
Correct.
So you didn't have the choice to choose Chinatown
because it never popped into your head.
I could have chosen it if...
You couldn't.
If the line of questioning was...
No, the way I asked you,
you couldn't have chosen Chinatown
because it didn't pop into your head.
These movies just popped into your head that you,
that you thought of.
Right.
But it put me in the lane of thinking your top three,
not what the top three of all time,
someone else on the list would be.
Does that make sense?
If you had said,
I asked you what are the right.
And that's why I said,
clarify,
is it my choice or what I think?
Jordan,
there's gonna be a lot of of mental gymnastics is what happens.
Let's go to a different experiment.
Go ahead.
Name the, just pick three random capitals.
Hmm.
Not a test.
Well, I don't know three.
Oh, okay.
All right, that's a good thing.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Ready?
Dover.
Dover?
Capital Delaware.
Is that right?
I have no idea.
Who knows Delaware?
I think we're down a rabbit hole here. The point is
you're supposed to notice
that these things pop into your head.
You don't think your thoughts.
So they're popping into your head. They're popping
into your head because of experiences
you had.
Maybe you saw something about Dover
or whatever. And the only
two things that get you to have things pop into your consciousness, maybe you saw something about Dover, but whatever. And the only two things that get you
to have things pop into your consciousness, which you think is making decisions is your brain
chemistry and your experiences. That's the only thing, both of which you didn't choose. You didn't
choose your parents, you didn't choose your experiences, you didn't choose your brain
chemistry. And it's the only thing when you you ask me, like, what else is there?
There is nothing else.
So we have, if we were to program a computer
with neural nets and all this,
there'd be absolutely no difference.
That's why I'm convinced computers,
once we get these robots to have
a very complicated neural network,
they're going to have consciousness.
Because the only difference is biological matter and silicon matter. And there's really nothing magical, even though
people want to have like this magical thing. It's an illusion of it. They did an experiment
where they could track brain chemistry and they'd figure out a guy raising his left hand and his
right hand. This was an experiment. And they would track and be able to see when they made the decision to lift the left hand, his brain would do this thing and right
hand, his brain would do this other thing. So then they knew what left hand, right hand, then they
would ask him to keep doing it. And they would know what hand the person was going to choose
before the person knows it. And the reason is because their subconscious decided
it already. And what happens is that your consciousness, what you talk about as your
conscious self free will making decisions is just receiving the thing and then making up a story.
So here's another experiment they did where, and there's the difference is like four seconds. It's
not like even close. There's other experiment where they have people who have half brains. So they have one brain is just gone. And it's a way they
can do it in experiment where they'll cover this eye and show this eye like a teddy bear. So this
side of its brain doesn't know, never saw. And you say, what's over there? It goes, I don't know.
Then you show them pictures of a hundred different things and that you go pick out the
picture you like. They'll always pick the teddy bear or whatever you show them. And then you go,
why'd you pick that? And they'll make up a story going when I was a kid, I had a teddy bear, but
they think you make up shit in order to make it. So you made a decision. It's a fucked up thing, but it's, these are experiments that they've done.
These are not,
you know, foo-foo
places. Wait, let me, this is how it helped me
to understand. Let me try. I think I figured out
why that girl spent the whole
date just talking about herself.
Let me try. Wait, I also
have to amend, Beckett is the death
guy, Daniel Dennett is the guy who believes
what, probably what he believes, which, Daniel Dennett is the guy who believes what probably what he believes,
which Daniel Dennett is like, look, I make choices,
whether I want the comb or the thing.
That's who I am is making this choice.
So there is such a thing as a self, but here's a,
here's how I think about it.
Say I'm auditioning for a thing, right?
I did everything I needed to do to prepare for the audition.
The Tonight Show.
Okay.
The Tonight Show.
Okay.
We've reviewed your tape. Oh, we're not rolling? No. And. The Tonight Show. Okay. We've reviewed your tape.
Oh, we're not rolling?
No.
And then I do it.
And then I,
this is how I think of free will.
And then you're like,
fuck, I should have,
I should have done this differently.
I would have gotten the part
if I did this.
There is,
because there is no dimension,
there is no reality
that you can go back and alter.
You are a culmination
of all of the things
that led you up
to where you are now.
So there is no,
like you couldn't have done it differently
because you did not do it differently.
You know what I mean?
That's why the free will thing is so cool
because you can eliminate regret.
That's right.
And also judging other people it eliminates
and also beating yourself up.
It's, it's.
But you have the free will to make that choice.
No, you're, you, you the free will to make that choice. No,
you're,
you,
you don't.
Everything is a choice.
If you,
you're,
you're subconscious is making these,
it's,
it's doing a balancing act and,
and calculating way beyond what you consciously can.
It pain,
pleasure principle.
Like you don't touch.
I had the free will to touch that hot stove.
Right.
You don't because,
because you're,
you've learned that that's like pain
and you go,
no,
that's no good.
But you could still make the choice.
But even if you did it,
you would have done it no matter what.
Everything that led you to that moment
led you to that moment.
So you would have done it.
Say you're standing hot stove,
cold thing.
And I go touch one.
And you're like,
uh,
uh,
uh,
this is my choice.
This is my choice.
And you burn yourself.
No matter what scenario in the future
happens, you always would have hit that because everything that led you to that point led you to
that point. So you have micro choices. Sure. You can read a book to educate yourself.
But even that, like your subconscious told you to read the book.
But that's such a bleak way of looking at it.
That's why people fight it. But I don't think it's bleak because it alleviates,
like Jordan was saying, regret judging other people.
It's a very freeing thing.
You're making decisions, but your subconscious is making decisions.
Your consciousness is just fielding.
I mean, you get emotional and you realize what the thought was that popped into your head.
That's not, you know, then you go, oh, I made a choice to do this or I made a choice.
But then you have a choice what to do with that emotion.
You have the illusion of choice.
It still comes.
If you notice, it still pops into your head from your subconscious.
Even like I'm going to have chicken Parmesan or chicken, you know, fettuccine.
You go, hmm, I could have this or that.
And then you almost like it's a, it's a mystery.
You go chicken fettuccine.
And then you have to backtrack like the doll and go, that's why I picked it.
You already picked it. Your subconscious already did all the calculating for you. It's a,
it's a disturbing thing. I don't live my life like that because it's, it's impossible. It's impossible. And it makes you feel like really weird, but I do believe that's what's happening.
Yeah. And also you can, like, my mom has a tattoo of a tiger with a little monkey on it backwards reading a book because her whole thing is like you can you can slowly arch the narrative of your life by by if I go fettuccine last time I chose fettuccine because or if you go I'm going to be nice to somebody over and over.
I'm always going to make that choice.
Then you your subconscious is going to you're like growing yourself but it is
isn't that true well the thing is it's a tricky thing about it even things of like i'm gonna write
down like it's good to imagine yourself doing something successful you can always agree on that
you know because then you don't feel uncomfortable if it starts to happen like i imagine myself here
that's a good general thing to think and And, um, and then I'm going to
write it down, like imagine success. You're still like, like whether you go home and write that down
right now, it you're, you're subconscious. Like, yeah, do it. You're not, you're, you're just
fielding something. You're more like, um, receiving things as a conscious person than deciding things.
It's already being done by your subconscious.
Right. But, but to that, I would say if that is, if you resign yourself to that subconscious of,
well, this is the way it's going to be. And that's what it is. Once you become aware of that,
you then have a choice, the free will, what to do with that feeling. You can either live in that
feeling and resign yourself to this and go, well, it's just what it was meant to be. You're still not understanding the loop.
You're still trying to make your conscious self be the decider.
And it's not,
even in that scenario.
Well,
I'm deciding.
No.
Yes.
That's the thing.
I'm deciding to not agree with you.
But whatever happens,
yeah,
whatever happens,
how you take in this information,
what,
where it goes and what happens is all at the mercy of everything you've experienced before
your genetics and your brain chemistry right so whatever happens might no matter what you say now
it's going to turn it into what it will be right here's the thing you're just gonna watch no one
will ever accept this like it's too unpopular you're safe yeah you you everybody feels how
you feel everybody hates i knew he would feel how I feel. Yes.
Yes.
We win.
Fine.
I'd rather you win with your bleakness and I'll die a fucking loser living the way I choose to live.
Look at the two calm people and the two extremely.
You're dressed like a fucking bug and you don't even know what your deal is.
But you're very defensive. I'm a quick death boy.
Oh no.
We already had some.
It is nice if you fuck up a set and you get off stage and you go, no matter what happened, that was going to happen.
That is just how the course of history.
That's choosing to accept.
It's choosing to accept that.
Or you're choosing to.
I don't know how to do this.
You are, but not your conscious self isn't choosing.
You're arguing that your conscious self is choosing that.
And we're saying, no, it's not.
And all you have to do is notice and you'll see.
Just notice how thoughts appear in your head.
You don't think your thoughts, they appear.
Right.
But you can, you can choose your actions.
You go back and you think you decide. It's like the teddy bear that you will always go back. Oh, that you can choose your actions. No, you go back and you think you decide.
It's like the teddy bear.
You will always go back and go, that's why I did that.
What I'm saying is you can't choose your thoughts.
Your thoughts appear, but what you do with those thoughts is then a choice.
Of your subconscious.
Subconscious is already decided.
You're just riding your life.
That's what you're doing.
You are a vessel that is riding all of the experiences that will come and happen to you. Enjoy yourself. you're just riding your life. That's what you're doing. You're just a participant.
You are a vessel that is riding all of the experiences that will come and happen to you.
Enjoy yourself.
Yeah, enjoy yourself.
Yeah.
You will.
And I choose to enjoy myself.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look at how you're dressed.
I'm choosing.
What'd you say?
Look at how you're dressed.
Yeah, and I'm enjoying this.
What sucks is this conversation doesn't bum me out i actually
i know but it bums people out and i feel bad about that they hate it and they they want it i don't
hate it i like it but when you find people i like someone choosing to challenge me my feature has
this it believes us too and he'll even do a thing when i start to be like what i was saying before
where i'm like but you can guide it he's like no no no and he'll be like he really is way more in the side you're talking about where it's which is nice yeah but
it also is when you are find yourself in bed and you're eating candy and you're it's I think it's
not miserable it might it might lend itself a little bit more to analysis and pessimism it's
also probably because we're depressed people choosing to be pessimistic no it's uh it's i
find it freeing and i find it comforting and uh it brings you into the moment more because you're
that's good you're saying you're riding this and you're not beating yourself up like why did i
that's how that had to go and you're not people are mean to you you go they have there's a storm
in their brain they're not you know you talk to people you'd agree with that warming and they're just and uh you don't take
things as personally your life is just more uh relaxed like you're sort of i i agree with that
i even do this but i when i talk about it but i go back do you ever go into like weeks where you
can do it i've had like i'm like an hour and i'm back. Yeah. But it's nice when I've had it,
I've had it when I was auditioning for the seller and I was in Mexico,
I wasn't getting up.
And then I came back and I was so free will heavy from listening to it that I
was like,
I think we're saying the same thing.
We're just speaking it in different languages.
Here's the difference.
Because I agree with you,
but what you're saying is the self-conscious of it is,
this is what it is and this and that I'm looking as viewing that as a choice
to accept.
Here's a way to crystallize the difference between what we're saying and what
you will never not believe.
And that's okay.
And you guys are pro-life.
You're evil.
Wrong.
We are pro-life.
You're living.
You're having an illusion that,
that you,
you have free will and you're choosing things and we're saying your subconscious is it is you but it's your subconscious it's not that self that
you're thinking of that's making these choices but as subconscious it still is me it is still
not you conscious that's what dan daniel dennett is being, he fights Sam Harris on it where he's like,
who I am is my subconscious then.
So there is a self.
And that's totally fine if you want to,
you feel like you identify with that.
But there is a thing like,
there is like if when I get really angry or I get upset and I'm like,
why did I do that?
I'm not a person who does that.
I can envision myself not being a person.
I could be like,
it is not up to me how what
happens but i reject that because then you can just live in a way where you're not scared of
and it's not the case see that doesn't happen people think that they're just gonna disagree
with both of you both came upon this at a certain point in our lives yes and our lives are no
different i mean we haven't become psychopaths. Your lives are completely different.
That's what people are worried about. They're worried that they're going to just lay down and not do anything. You've been calculating this pain, pleasure from your subconscious your whole
life. It doesn't change. You just notice it. You're just noticing, oh, that is how it's going
down. You still do the things you want to do and not want to do. Right. Yes. And I agree with the
noticing. I'm just saying that there then becomes a choice within the notice to then behave the way
that you've continually behaved or to make a change to then adjust the different outcomes.
Unfortunately, sir, that's still from your subconscious. You never change this pattern,
which is your subconscious throws the ideas at you. You feel them and then you make up a story
of why you picked that or did that. And sometimes you go later, you go, you go like, why did I do that? Like, it'll it, a lot of
times it lines up, you know? Yeah. I chose that. And I did that. And that's that. But just think
of your life when you're like, why did I fucking bring up nine 11 at their birthday? And it's
because you're not doing all the things you can't be. You can't be, we would short circuit if we
were doing all the things consciously. It's a mixture.
No.
Pop off in the chat.
Let us know in the comments.
Everybody will be against what we're saying.
Everybody hates it because they worry that they're going to go like this.
People worry, okay, then why wouldn't I just lay?
And how would I make any decision to do anything and I'll just lay here?
I'm agreeing with you guys more than I am disagreeing.
But the basic But you're,
but you're the basic principle you're not accepting,
which is that brainwave thing.
How,
how are they able to pick every time exactly what hand that guy was going to
raise before he raised it?
Because he,
the guy was like,
I'm deciding this now got the decision four seconds ago from his
subconscious.
But thoughts aren't just linear in terms of like,
raise hand,
don't raise hand.
It's like,
there's so many different things.
They all can be,
but to narrow it down,
to make that as a blanket explanation of all different thoughts,
because they could predict hand.
That's just an example from,
from one experiment,
but you could have it in a different way.
Here's an experiment.
You can have, who can get turned on faster by a different way. If you want, you can have...
Who can get turned on faster by me stripping?
If you want...
Yup, yup.
Was it always meant for you to like it?
Or is it a decision you're making?
Uh-oh, we've broken you.
This can make you feel better.
You can introduce...
You can be spiritual and have no free will.
How about that?
You can have a spiritual... You can feel that the have no free will. How about that? What?
You can have a spiritual,
you can feel that the thing that's moving your subconscious
has some relationship to like a higher power.
That helps with the whole free will thing.
If that makes you feel better.
What are we talking about?
I don't even know what we're talking about.
The problem with this conversation is it does unbuckle reality
and it becomes uncomfortable for everybody.
And it's the best. It's my favorite thing.
Yeah. And then we go back to
we'll go back to our illusion.
But then it makes you weird about everything you're saying
because you're like, am I choosing it? I'm not choosing it.
I used to have horrible OCD
about this and I tripped on acid. That's like the
way you were. Sorry. Go ahead.
Go ahead. No, no. I used to have
about what I said yesterday, the revelation.
Yeah. About your unraveling when you just take a small example of a thing of like,
hey, I want to go to the movies with you.
And then you like overthink it to death.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Instead of just allowing and choosing to allow.
That's why I know about this because I've struggled so much with it.
It's unwell thinking.
Right, but that's what this helps, where you're like,
this is how it's going to be. You can't
torture your way. Let's explain to him what we talked
about. Oh, this is how I am.
This is how I am in relationships. Ask if you
want to see a movie. You want to see a movie?
I feel like, you're asking
me, it's like five right now.
The movie's at eight, and I feel like we never make plans
together, and you're just making the plan now because neither of us
happen to have spots and it's just convenient
for you to hang out with me now. We never make
plans and it's not because
you really care about me. You're just like, what do I do with my time?
I guess I'll hang out with my girlfriend because she's
here right now. Oh, we're dating?
I thought this was a new thing. I was just explaining this
how I feel with you.
That's how she is in a relationship.
I take the free will thing and I go
I am I am where I am I either I'm gonna go to the movie or not realistically I'm gonna end up going
to the movie let's cut all of the punishment but that would that would offend you if his last minute
plans you don't like it wouldn't it's just I find it I will do a thing where I find the way that the
person hates me in every that's you know what I mean like if they're like hand me the coffee I'm
like you right literally if I was like,
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, she'd be like,
well, why are you conjuring me now?
What, so you just have to say my name three
times for me to exist? Yeah, did you even think of me
before you said it, or you just said it because you have it?
Because I'm a party trick. Am I a party trick
to you? Is that what I am? Oh, I see.
I'm wearing the costume, so now that you're...
It's very much... That's kind of a new
care, like a PMS Juice or whatever.
Nice.
It's like a,
Beetlejuice's wife who's
just hormonal.
Is it hormones?
No, no, it's obsessive.
No, that's her all the time.
It's looping.
I loop.
Or I'll be like,
just go to the movie.
You know that he's just asking you to go to the movie
and then I'll be like,
but what if he's just admitted it a bit?
That's why I got into No Free Will because I was always like, I was like, I don't understand
who's making these decisions.
Am I making them?
Jordan's making them.
Yeah.
If I'm making them, then what if I just choose to stab myself in the leg?
What if I, because I was a contractor, I was like, what if I take the nail gun?
I could do that.
So then I started having panic attacks while I'm doing carpentry because all of these possibilities.
And then I started taking acid which did actually help
a lot and then I got into Sam Harrison
no free will stuff and I was like oh I'm just a culmination
of shit and I'm probably going to keep myself
safe because I've made it this far
so I probably won't do that even if I
have a panic I'll probably faint before
I pull the trigger but still he asked if you
wanted to go to the movies and you still have not
said yes or no yeah I'll go let's go
great I want to see that Leonardo DiCaprio movie I read the whole book it's so good it's so good i
highly recommend the book i can't read this book i'm a slow reader and it's you and me both i'll
tell you by the way i just put a button on the uh have you noticed as soon as sam harris like
the free will thing came out, people like fucking hate him.
That's the thing that's scary about introducing.
This is the most upsetting thing.
People call me sociopaths.
Like a few days later,
I talk about the no free will.
They'll be like,
you're a sociopath.
And I'm like,
I mean,
it's the most like a religion.
Literally shitting his pants,
clawing his eyeballs out next to us.
Look at Ethan. Ethan's chill as hell, dude. I mean, he's literally shitting his pants, clawing his eyeballs out next to us. Look at Ethan.
Ethan's chill as hell, dude.
Yeah, well, he's a wizard.
He's all right.
It's a close look to religion when you go, oh, I think something else.
And they go, I was on a plane with this lady.
And she's like, hand me a pamphlet about Jesus Christ.
And I was like, oh, this is awesome.
And she's like, yeah, and this.
And then she asked me what I did for a living.
And I was like, I'm a comedian.
And then she started telling me I was wasting my life and then i was like okay now i'm
done being nice and i wasn't even mean but i was just asking her questions that were riling her
like what like what you know just like i go well if pick your three favorite movies
name three capitals quick yeah yeah i don't know who said this but but someone said this and it's
like oh yeah that's a really upsetting thing to say to someone who's like what pleasing jesus
just if you if we were on the other side of the world you'd be handing me pamphlets about muhammad
and then their brain it's that cognitive dissonance where they know it's true yeah but
they're like no they can't believe it and then they're just they fucking hate you. That's like
the same thing with free will. It's like their brain
goes, I can't accept this. Fuck
you. But I'm not saying fuck you to both you
guys. But your energy is.
No, but that's you putting that on
me because I'm obviously playing a part
and like playing
this up, but like it's uncomfortable.
Again, you're putting your own
uncomfortableness on this. Both of us at the same time?
Yes. He could fucking
stab me right now
and you'd be like, see, we both like stabbing.
Yeah. No, but I knew he...
I called the free will thing. Can we acknowledge that?
That I was like, he's going to be a free will guy and he was?
Sure. You can just tell. You get a read.
Yeah. It's a lonely... We're a lonely group.
You both seem miserable. My mom, my best friend.
Are you a miserable person
i'll tell you this there it is i'll be totally honest i'm not no i've never had i've just been
lucky brain chemistry wise i don't get too dark but i'll tell you this before free will and like
thinking that noticing that and after this very there isn't really a difference it's not like it changed
something where i was like oh now i'm dark because i don't believe in i feel like i found out about
it because i always kind of knew it like when i read it i wasn't like whoa i kind of was like
yeah that does make sense there's no way that i could have that much information and choose
between i'm like a i'm like an aggressive optimist I guess and and I
guess in terms of the free will thing from my past experiences and what has happened to me in my life
I've had no choice as a defense mechanism to survive but to be aggressively optimist about
things as a way for me to survive and traverse the world that i was born into so that is my i guess
unraveling of why am i so like angrily optimistic about things and and like that if you want to go
back to the subconscious we are a you know reflection of our past and our culmination
of this at the other yeah i think I think there's a better way to,
um,
uh,
just say what I said.
I'll go ahead.
Well,
no,
no,
I'll go ahead.
No,
no,
I agree with you.
Don't say what I said,
but in a better way.
Look how mad you're mad.
I was going to say something totally different.
Sorry.
I'm trying to make them laugh at home.
Oh,
I know.
Sorry.
This is like the least funny podcast.
No,
it's the best.
This is my favorite.
I'm loving this too. Well best this is my favorite i'm
loving this too well this is my favorite not just fart jokes yeah listen well what i was gonna say
which had nothing to do with you getting what you thought i was gonna say yes is i think they're
gonna be a better way of phrasing free will i think that is just too upsetting to people i think
a better way is to say you make these decisions subconsciously.
So it was a,
you have no free will.
It sounds really harsh,
but we do calculate,
you know,
so much.
I mean,
your,
your heart and your,
there's a lot of going on in your body,
intelligence that you're not conscious of.
And,
uh,
your brain is doing a lot of work,
you know,
back here,
you know what I mean? And then this guy is doing a lot of work back here.
You know what I mean?
And then this guy is just thinks he controls everything
and he's just like pulling.
It's just a control panel.
He's like, yay.
That goes to my question.
Did you make the decision right then to cross your legs?
You know what I mean?
Yes, I did.
Did you ever watch a video yourself?
Because I wanted to be comfortable in my space.
Right, but imagine if everything was a lever you were pulling.
Right now, moving your shoe, looking at Ethan just in that moment.
That would be chaos.
Once you get into a flow state of it where you're like,
I am just rolling with it and witnessing what happens,
it feels incredible.
It feels good, and I think you'd like it.
What I'm saying is, so then does that, cause I've, I've had this question. I, I was in a, of all podcasts that we have,
the one philosophy one, we are dressed like this is, I love that. So funny. That is hilarious.
I have always wanted it. It was being Jordan with Ian. This is exactly what it would be.
This is great. Really the most ironic
conclusion is what happens. Or the most
Anyway, that's
what this is. It's great.
I mean, you're literally trying to
pontificate while dressed as Elvis.
Now,
I think it's because we had the skeleton here
reminding us the finitude of our existence.
I mean, death and Halloween.
It does make sense.
Totally. And the conclusions we're coming to are pretty spooky
scary.
Now, when you
talk about the idea
of subconscious and you're not
even making this decision.
In the past, I
dated someone with
incredibly bad borderline personality
disorder.
It wasn't me.
It was not her.
And she discussed me.
Uh,
just kidding.
Jokes.
Huh?
I love you.
Um,
but I said,
I discussed you.
I did discuss you.
A thing that,
a thing that I struggled with when she would behave in like a,
a massively hurtful and truly like evil way was I would go, is she making these decisions
to like these snap decisions to turn things around on me and say these things and to hurt me? Or is
it so embedded in her subconscious that her wiring is so broken that she only knows how to hurt?
Does that make sense? Yes.
Like the argument you just had
about the movies was very much
could be related to the way she
would behave. Yeah, I have serious
borderline tendencies. The daggers would really
come out with it and then not just
like, well, you always do this and this and that. It would come
out with these other like insults. It would just
like, just very hurtful things.
And in my head I would go, is but but what i'm saying is a way i got over it was the the recognition like
oh my god it's not something she was doing personal to me it's she has basically like
coffee was poured on her motherboard when she was developing and her brain is broken
and that's why and so i should look at her not with condemnation,
but with compassion.
Like,
yes,
she hurt me and these things are terrible,
but oh my God,
this poor person has to suffer this way where she's not even aware of the,
um,
you know,
hurtful and deceitful ways in which she's acting.
And that goes back to the free will.
You know who you are.
You just need to expand that out to everything.
Right.
Because then you can walk away from things knowing that it isn't a choice.
Right.
But again, like with with I'm I'm eight years sober and I'm heavily involved in recovery and everything.
And so a big part of that is, you know, recognizing your, you know, faults and they call character defects.
But also in looking at other people and going, oh, I shouldn't be upset at this person.
They're a sick person.
How can I help them rather than hate them?
Does that make sense?
Yes.
So if you look at people,
like I wanted to hate this person,
but once I recognized like,
oh, it was borderline and not her as a person,
that helped me break free and move forward.
Yes.
So what I'm saying is that
analogous. If you do a third lap
right now, I will fucking
You are laughing, Doug. Can I be honest?
I'm not used to people listening to me for this
long. And so the fact that you were
I just kept talking to be
like, oh my God, I really got him.
Okay, keep going. Wow.
I was really excited.
I was like, if this doesn't culminate in something different than how it began, I don't know what we're doing.
No, no, we know what you're saying.
She didn't decide who she was and that helps you to understand that.
Yes.
Yes.
It's like crazy how much time of my life I've spent like that.
Okay.
I wasn't listening the whole time.
I don't know.
You need to say it again.
Just say it one more time.
She can't blame.
The way you acted with the date thing is the way she would act.
It reminded me of that.
And so 90.
We're at 90 minutes.
Oh my God.
Plug. What do you got to plug?
This is my favorite podcast we've ever had This is great
I can't wait to tell my mom and Kyle
I'm a no free will guy
There's only 4 or 5 of us in the world
It's true
My mom is the queen
She's a cult leader of no free will
My mother would not be on board with this.
I'm pretty sure. My mom is a cult leader.
You guys are disappointing your mothers.
You're screaming.
It wasn't my choice to scream.
That's true.
I can't help it. I'm a screamer.
How's that feel? Your sarcasm was not your choice.
Yes.
You being a smug bitch.
It's just the way I was born, baby.
I mean, you know.
I'm wondering how this is going to be received.
Because we started off very goofy.
It's not their choice.
It's not their choice.
We took a real turn.
Well, I had one.
We put one on the Patreon with me and my mom having philosophy talk.
People hated it.
People hated it. That's because you guys didn't make it funny. We cut this off and made that serious one the Patreon one. We put one on the Patreon with me and my mom having philosophy talk. People hated it.
That's because you guys didn't make it funny.
Make that serious one the Patreon one.
If you want to go there.
Let them all have it.
People need to hear how wrong you guys are. Stop screaming, please. My God.
It wasn't my choice.
He's never going to let that go.
I'm killing you a thousand times. It won't be my choice either.
It'll be a culmination of my. Can I just say
real quick, one thing that I really hated
about being an alcoholic is a disease
concept and people would act real
shittily and go, it's not my fault. I have a disease.
It's a disease of addiction. It's not
my fault. And I hate that thinking
because that takes a blame away
from themselves and puts it on something else.
So I think I associate with what
you guys are saying as no
personal responsibility.
And I'm a big personal responsibility
guy. Yeah, no, those things
can get conflated.
They're totally different.
I think that is a major problem.
People just think, oh, I
didn't do anything.
But they would have done that no matter what.
Yeah, that person is going to be that person no matter what. You're going to die the way that you would have done that no matter what. No. Yeah. That person is going to be that person no matter what.
You're going to die the way that you're going to die no matter what.
No. It's not even determinism.
The trajectory will change.
You couldn't map it out. But that person was going to
be that annoying person and they went into the culmination
of your subconscious to make you not that person.
You don't have to agree with me.
I don't think I am.
I'm going to say this.
There's no room for pride.
Like I did this, which also people hate.
No, but it's also like there's no room for shame.
You have to understand that too.
And it doesn't mean you don't try to get better or better your life.
You're still taking in information.
You're subconsciously taking it in, learning.
It's not like you're not learning and you're not growing growing as a person because you're like i have no free will you you can't help but
do that you're just going towards pain pleasure principles and the calculating is happening at a
rate you can't even begin to understand and then it pops in your and then you take credit for the
decision yeah that's what's happening it's not like the it's not determinism where it's like i
know where you'll be in 10 years. Your whole
life is laid out. You are educating
your subconscious as you go, which is beautiful, and you get
to witness that, but it's not
up to you.
That's not true.
Well, talk to me to end the show.
What do you think of that for free will?
Do you have plugs? No plugs. What would you like people to watch?
Pop, pop, pop. Plug it.
Whitney Kimmel's podcast. Just kidding.
I did her pop, pop bop, bop.
Do you know that's an A chord?
Bop, bop, bop.
Anyway, kylezleinigan.com
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Yay. Jordan, what do you got?
I got shows
coming in November. The places
I'm coming to are,
Ian, do you do plugs and I'll get ready?
IanFidance.com for tickets.
I got a lot of fun stuff coming up.
November 3rd, Amityville Music Hall, Long Island.
Come on out.
Let's go.
November 5th, Austin, Texas,
a creek in the cave.
Gonna be fun.
Also, Philly, Sacramento, San Francisco,
Portland, Seattle, Tampa. IanFighted.com for
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I animal six side patreon.com slash medium pot.
If you so choose to do it, I have to plug before you finish.
Okay.
November 3rd.
I'm at the stand.
I'm at what I'm in Utah in November, Burlington, Vermont, December, Rochester, December, Syracuse,
December, Albany, December.
I love you.
Oh, we want to thank you foruse, December, Albany, December. I love you. Uh-huh.
We want to thank you for choosing us
to hang out with on this Halloween
mama. So take us out
with some hunk of hunk of burning love.
I've been wanting to do this the whole podcast,
but I guess it wasn't in my
free will to do it till the end.
Oh, yeah.
It's helping me. It's helping me
deal with the fact that this is where my life has led me
It's not my choice
Everything you've done has led you to here
Don't you wish you had free will you dumb bitch
No We'll see you next time.