Bellied Up - Charlie Might Have a Concussion #94
Episode Date: March 28, 2024We're at Ted's Bar in St. Paul, MN. Charlie had an interesting accident before this episode. (9:37) The first caller is dating a bull rider and wants to find out what gets him excited. Don'...;t listen to this call around children. Russell from Nicolet Law drops by to give Charlie some pointers on how to handle his potential injury. (57:45) The last caller is struggling with keeping his beer league intact. Get yourself a "Road Huntin For Ditch Chickens" Hat Want us to come to your bar for a Bellied Up episode? Click Here Check Out Myles' other Podcast You Betcha Radio Check Out Charlie's other Podcast Cripescast
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Oh yeah. Hey everybody. Uh, welcome. Uh, this is the bellied up podcast, man. I mean, this is where
we come and we chit chat. Why don't you start it? You're good. Oh, I thought you were looking at
me. I'll do it again. No, you're Hey folks. Welcome to a brand spanking new episode of the
bellied up podcast. I'm a one half of your host. My name's Charlie Barron's and I am miles. You bet you
guy. And he, we are where are we bellied up at Charlie? Oh, we're bellied up over here.
And yeah, I in Minneapolis, which is a great city. What town are we actually in? Well,
we're in St. Paul. Well, I knew that one of the twins, I mean, it was a twin. So sometimes
you see one of the twins and you're like, that's Carrie, but no, it's not Carrie. It's Terry. We're in St. Paul over
at Ted's bar. And this is what we're looking for in a bar. Charlie is one big rectangle.
There's one bar, a few tables, pool table. That's all you need. Don't you, Charlie? There's
a confessional over there. It's actually the time out booth. I've never seen it in a bar.
That's like, I remember in hook, take them to the blue box. No, not the bull box. No.
So you better behave on this podcast, Charlie. You're going to end up in the time out booth.
Oh, that's it's beautifully dressed up. The solid would work on it. I mean, it looks,
it looks nice enough to be a confessional,
but just the right shape to also be a urinal or a porta pot.
Here's my favorite part. Uh, the bar is that it is what,
there's a decoration up in this bar for every holiday. Just always up.
I'm looking at a cobweb and then underneath and then underneath our Christmas
lights, Christmas lights. And I bet if we keep going, we're going to find an Easter egg somewhere in here. Quite literally. Oh, there's a pumpkin over there. You see it that white pumpkin. So we've got that going. Some nice Winston, an advertisement for Winston filters. Yeah. Anyways. Oh, and then a bowling machine right behind us. I mean,
this is a Beatles pinball machine. Now that's an, that's a spendy item right
there. I bet that's a lot of money. Pinball machines are, they're starting to
get up there and people are loving them kind of like records, you know, the
finals are coming back hot, coming back guys. If you get a chance, you got to
swing on by Ted's bar here in St. Paul.
It's a great little spot.
Folks are friendly.
Vibes are good vibes are good.
Speaking of vibes, Charlie, though, we got to talk about something.
Maybe not so good vibes.
We'll see why an interesting morning for.
Yeah. Charlie had a little bit of what we would call an incident this morning. So, so walk us through it. Well, I was, you can remember I was walking.
I was walking through the beautiful streets of Minneapolis. We're downtown in the mill
district. I think it's called, I don't know. And I was looking around at these beautiful
mill museum. I was like, man, I want to go to the mill museum. I mean, cause they have
this mill and it's completely restructured and you can
walk around as a nice, beautiful walk. Anyways, I had my coffee.
I was just being very present and enjoying every moment of life. And I see,
Oh my gosh, there's the parking garage. I look at my time. Oh my gosh,
I got to go to my car and I see, um, you know,
a car come out of the parking garage. I was like, ah, I'll just walk right down.
You'd be like, Oh car, I'm going to sneak right past you in this parking garage.
I didn't even have to sneak right past the car, but I do like it.
I do like it.
Had the car even been there, the car was gone.
I, you know, the car said, Oh, can I sneak right past you?
And I says, of course no double toot.
Didn't take it as a
fence. Anyway, I start walking down the parking garage ramp. And as I'm walking down, I right
in the head, dude, the garage door, tried to guillotine you damn near did, you know?
And it hit me right on the old thinker, right on the top of the dome,
right on in the moneymaker. And yeah.
And then I as I was walking down, I was like, what the hell happened?
It took me a while. Then I saw the garage door go back up.
And I mean, I thought I first of all, I was happy I didn't die.
But I did see some starry night
type stuff. Um, I walked down into the parking garage, you know, just a little burst of something.
Now I want you to know that if you had died in this guillotine, uh, garage door accident,
Charlie, you would have laughed. No, the podcast would have went on. Oh, it would have been
the Charlie Memorial podcasts. Yeah. Honestly, it would have had its. Oh, I know. It would have been the Charlie Memorial podcast.
Yeah, honestly, it would have had its biggest number.
Rain or shine, I'm showing up to the bar
and getting the work done.
So I just want you to know that.
Hey, I appreciate.
Even if you die on your way here,
I'm still doing the podcast so we can get the,
so we can make sure that the listeners know
that we're here to ride or die with them,
even though you have died.
If you die, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm taking a month off. I got a morn and, and sleep. But
anyways, all I'm going to do is this is for all of your employees. You die. I got to get
on this podcast so I can sling the RIP Charlie shirts to make sure that all your affairs are in.
Got to keep you. Is that what you would do is make RIP Charlie. How much would you profit
off my death? I wouldn't profit anything. I would donate that to your company so then
they can have the money or your family or whatever. I get it. You'd take a taste. I
mean, I would take a cut. You dip your, your beak into that thing. Yeah. You take a cut. You dip your your beak into that thing. Yeah, you take a cut. Yeah. This small sliver of a cut. Yeah, sure. I mean, small is a relative thing.
But anyway, I didn't die.
So now here's my question is a what do I do in this situation?
You know, are you can cuss? I don't know. How do I know if I'm can cuss?
Well, let's see how the pupils are doing. I've seen a lot of college
football. Are you Googling
it? No, I'm pulling out my own flashlight here. So what the what is that going to do?
We're going to see if your pupils are dialing. I'm not drunk. What are you doing? So look
straight ahead. Oh, they're moving around. You're good. You ain't dilated, Charlie. Okay.
I trust that. I trust you and your little
Flashlight in a bar to tell me if I'm concussed. I've seen that, you know
The question protocol in the NFL to get in the blue 10. They start flashing them in the eyes
Yeah, I've seen that too, but I don't know what they're looking for on the other end, you know, though
Have you watched a YouTube video on it? How do you know common knowledge? Am I just out of the loop? Yeah, you're out of the loop
Okay, so well so not concuss no lawsuit. We'll see though.
You know, if you start getting a little nauseous, let us know. Is it nausea nausea that you have
to worry about? Yep. Anything else? Um, confusion, dizziness, memory loss. I gotta tell you, I do.
Take that one out. I took two melatonin last night. Oh my gosh.
That'd be funny if like you started, you went on web MD for concussions and they started
naming off, uh, all the symptoms and you're like, I just must be concussed at all times.
Confusion and dizziness. Yeah. It's literally, uh, yeah. Dizziness. Huh? I don't know. Cause
now I'm starting to think about my head and I'm like,
oh, is that because, you know, if you think about something a lot, you can make
yourself sick sometimes if you just think about it.
What you think about you bring about stress stays in your body.
That's why you got to work it out.
You guys seen that video?
Mm hmm. Because it's not a video.
I just thought about it.
Anyways, should we? This is a Jordan Flu game performance. I just thought about it. Anyways, um, should we, uh,
this is a Jordan flu game performance. Jordan flu game, baby.
You're here at the bar. I'm here at the bar ripping through episodes of the
bellied up, taking callers, um, you know, taking names.
Did you fall over when I hit you? Um, I don't think so.
Cause then that would have been, I mean, that's where I think the real brain
injuries happen. Charlie is not the initial hit. It's when you hit the ground.
Right. Nice. The nice thing is I will say I'm, I'm, I'm a taller drink of water.
I mean, I don't mean to brag, but I'm six foot one, me too.
Really probably closer to six foot, but
who's taller back to back.
Damn. He was on his tippy toes.
I felt it. I felt it.
I felt the tippy toes go up bastard.
So the bigger they are, the harder they fall though.
I think is bigger.
They are harder. They fall, but also the taller they are, the harder they fall though. I think is bigger. They are hard.
They fall, but also the taller they are, the shorter the distance for the garage door to
pow them, you know, like I didn't get as much momentum, right? Yeah. Short. It would have
had a lot more velocity. If I were a short King, man, I might, I might not be standing
here right now. Shout out to all the short Kings out there. We see you, but you're an
athlete. So you stayed upright. So that's probably good.
You didn't get a double whammy brain injury. So dude,
speaking of which, did you see cam Newton get the,
did you see the video of cam Newton? No, dude, that dude got,
got jumped by like four guys and he like took them all really.
And he kept his hat on. Yeah. It was like a big internet thing. Uh,
not too long ago, but it was, it was gnarly man. It's like, do not go after Camden. Guy will mess you up and
keep his witch hat on.
Well, Charlie, should we keep her moving as you would say? Let's do it. Miles, let's keep
her moving. Let's take some colors. Welcome to the bellied up podcast. Who is calling
in today? This is Gwen. Gwen, how are you doing? I'm well. How are you guys
doing? Doing good. We're bellied up to the bar. Why don't you belly up to the bar with
us? Tell us what's on your mind. Okay. So do you guys remember the traumatic backstory
single mom that called in a while ago? Um, we get that a lot. Yeah. Be a little more specific on this. What,
what were we talking about?
The single mom of three that had the ex husband that tried to kill her multiple
times and was going through the divorce and everything.
Yes. This was probably about a year ago.
Was that Schuyler's Tavern?
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Is are, are you here? That's me. Yeah. That's me. Give us the update on that. Yeah.
Give us the update on that and give some more backstory for the listeners who haven't heard
the call. Oh goodness. Okay. So I am, or I was a single mom of three. I just started my divorce process.
My ex husband had tried to kill me multiple times. Ran at me with a Jeep and got away
with almost everything. And then I kept giving up charges. I was scared. And then finally
something broke the camel's back and I called the cops and had him removed. So I do have an interesting question
now because that is moving on but I am with somebody who is a farming bull rider and I don't know
how the heck you guys are supposed to keep those guys happy. Cause he doesn't want to bull ride anymore,
but he wants to bull ride.
Cause he doesn't want to hurt himself, but he wants to do it.
So I don't know how you're supposed to keep them like
energized and excited when they liked the rush of lying all
over the fucking place.
Yeah.
I don't know anything.
I'm not clearly, I'm not a rodeo guy. I respect, I think I've said multiple times
that the people who are riding bulls are crazy
in a good way and I respect the hell out of what they do
cause I would never, I'm too soft basically.
So that being said, I mean these guys,
from what I understand, it's kind of a, they know that it's bad for
their body to ride bulls, but they love it so much and love the adrenaline so much that
they're okay with potentially wrecking their body because the high is so high.
Is that correct?
Is that what you're saying?
I think so, but I think he hasn't done bull riding for a long while,
I believe. And now of course, you know,
I was single mama three and we've been together for two, three, four,
five, six, somewhere in their months. And he's met the kids,
the kids love him. He loves the kids.
So he doesn't want to go get hurt and then he can't play with the kids,
which also means then he
petters around the house and needs more excitement.
I don't know what to excite him.
How are you supposed to excite someone that wants to be thrown?
I'm not very strong.
OK.
Have you heard of furries?
Oh, god.
Please, no.
All I'm saying.
All I'm saying. Yeah, have you ever heard that Rihanna song about
chains and whips? Exciting. Oh, all right. We were trying to tell me that I need to start
exploring this something here. Well, we don't need to take it down that road because let's
be frank. Yeah, that stills on the table. It's still on the table, but it's going to
take a lot more than that. This guy likes a caged animal that we get to the root of it, Charlie.
Maybe he just likes the pain of getting thrown around. That is true.
I feel like we got to know what he likes the most about it.
Does he like the pain in which case, you know, whips and chains can help with that.
Is he an adrenaline junkie? What would you say if you had to guess?
Oh, God, I think he might be a little bit of both guys. Like I think he might be a little bit of both. Okay.
When he's digging around the junk drawer and he gets stuck in the thumb by a attack, does he
does he kind of like say, ah, or does he say, ah, I don't know about that I do know he told me today that he was
playing chicken with a semi trying to pass a tractor and got on the other side
of the road within three little zip line yeah I mean the adrenaline for sure
that's what we're dealing with we're dealing with an adrenaline junkie here
and this is gonna be get him into skydiving. Yeah, it's actually skydiving is pretty safe. It's a safe adrenaline thing. I think
I'm supposed to do that with him. That doesn't sound like a
great thing to do with him. I mean, what if you do it and you
get hooked on it? You know, and then you got, you know, let's
just hope nothing goes wrong for your kids sake. But you know
what, maybe just he does it for a while. Yeah
Double wham you okay counter suit
Counter suit. What if I just took all my trauma and all the times, you know, I went there everything
He just beat the shit out of him during you know fun time. Oh
You guys could marry your traumas. So what she said, so you would beat the shit out of them.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think this is a terrible idea, but I'll walk down the road with you on it.
And in the right context, in the right context, right. Get a little nice like weather because
cows are kind of, or foals are kind of leathery, get a nice little leather, maybe time up a little
bit and then just beat the shit out of him and give him
the time of his life. And that'll do right.
Honestly, I think it might, uh, you don't want to make sure he signs a form though,
before he started beating the shit out of them, you know, make sure.
Yes. We consent is huge in this scenario, right? Charlie.
Uh, yeah. Why are you saying right, Charlie?
I'm looking for your approval.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
You want to get some consent on that.
And I also think that getting yourself a mechanical bowl in the basement
and kind of mixing a little, you know, erotic whip play with a bowl
could be kind of something fun.
And then you also pair it with putting Legos
all over the floor, so if he gets thrown off the ball,
there's an added pain aspect to it.
Yeah, that's genius, Miles.
I like where this was going.
See, I was going more with like,
I could get him a bull ring and maybe throw some fan
in his eyes at the end of adult time,
but I like where this one's going better But I like where this one's going better.
I like where this one's going better.
I like mixing bull riding and adult time.
You know, I mean, it seems like you've thought about this before.
I mean, she's rattling off these things pretty quickly.
Very specific.
So I need to know what are the other things that you are been thinking about?
Well, there is the option because okay, I didn't, I did some research here. All right.
Cause there's like a yearly rodeo, like super bowl thing he put on. So I actually paid attention.
I watched seven seconds. I know about someone Mooney. I think that's his name. Maybe Justin
don't kill me if that's wrong. But someone Mooney, super good bull riders, I think that's his name. Maybe Justin, but don't kill me if that's wrong
But someone Mooney super good bull riders. I saw that they have clowns that like hide in these big old buckets, right?
So hear me out Put a bull ring on him, right?
Be like this little cute little thing hide in a fire barrel dressed as a sexy clown
Throw him on the bed hog tie, flip him off the bed,
throw sand in his eyes, maybe tie a rope around his uh his utility thundersatchel and just kind of
drag him a little bit and that should that should probably get the adrenaline in the pain right?
Yeah I think that'll do the trick right there. I think, you know, you've, you've found yourself
a lucky fella. I'm going to tell you that right now. Wow. Wow. Now she really has thought
about it. And you have to have proposed some of this to him already. Am I correct in saying
that? No, no, no. I've kind of, you know, been like, oh, this would be funny
or hey, this person said this online, that'd be funny. And he was just kind of like, haha.
But you know, I've been, I've been looking a little Amazon every now and then, you know,
trying to see if I can get drunk enough to steal a barrel sometime. Although he sees
one driving me drunk around to steal the barrel. I mean, borrow it from the city. Obviously I'd return it after you get done.
Not a criminal.
And I don't know.
I think I'd have to find a third party in this
to help with the drunk barrel,
but might be able to order a couple things then
and might surprise him a little bit.
So you think-
But he's cowboy, so he'll be drunk ahead of time.
So we should be safe on the whole. What are you doing?
This is a lot to unpack.
First of all, I feel like just a general note to our listeners, guys,
if anybody wants to sponsor a barrel, OK,
you know, consider that because this this I feel like needs to get done.
My my other thought on this is,
you're putting all this thought into helping him.
Is he putting the same kind of thought
into helping you with your needs?
Or is the thought you're putting in...
He's doing great.
What's that?
I said, oh honey, he's doing great on that.
My needs are covered.
What do you mean by that?
He's got a hog on them is what she's saying.
Charlie.
Well, let's, I, well, okay.
To be fair.
All right.
The X was a little shrimpy, you know, a little shrimp cocktail and all of that.
And then you get with a cowboy, you get the horse I found out but
I also got with an older cowboy okay so he is about nine years older than me so
he's kind of seen a couple rings himself and kind of knows what hey this ain't
this ain't his first rodeo it is not it is not all this I feel like if I do a
little plan here it might be his
first rodeo and he's either going to come out traumatized or he's going to love me more.
And I think I'm willing to take the chances guy. Really thinking about it.
How are you going to know if you don't try it?
Exactly. You know, it's either going to last or it's not, but 50 50 he'll still be able
to play with the kids. You probably just can't have anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even think you called in for advice. I think you just called in
to just brag about that. This is your scenario now, which is also fine. Yeah. I'm happy you
did. I'm happy you did. Are you going to give them a hockey helmet to wear? You just, is
he going to walk in the door?
There's going to be a hockey helmet on the kitchen table.
And then it's go time.
He actually has one hanging in the room.
I mean, he has a couple of pairs of chaps here.
He has some like kick the bull thingies and he has the hockey helmet and a couple of ropes.
Oh, he has a couple of ropes.
Okay.
We're already happy there boys.
All right.
All right. Listen, we gotta really plan this though
because the way you're saying this is
you're already gonna be in the barrel kind of a thing.
So, or you're gonna be in the room.
So you gotta lead him up to the room.
So start with a hockey helmet on the kitchen table,
take the ropes and then have the ropes
and not like rose petals guiding him where to go.
Have the ropes and everything. And petals guiding him where to go have the ropes and everything.
And then the last thing you have there be you know kind of his chaps. But you know.
I do like that. Yeah. They're fancy. The other idea though rent a bull ring for a day get
the angriest bull I can find and tell him if he can find
the hole without us dying from the bowl, that he's really won something.
If he can find the hole without dying from the bowl, then he's really won something.
Is that what I think?
Yeah.
Like, you know, we, yeah, like we're both in the bowl ring. You know, he's trying to see what I'm saying here.
Isn't that like illegal in like a lot of States just fornicating in front of animals.
Whoa. My whole third find my whole not the bowl full. Like the bowl is chasing us.
He has to find my whole.
No, I understand that.
Is it legal to just be fornicating in front of animals?
People do it in front of their dogs all the time.
I suppose.
I guess I didn't think about that.
Yeah.
Well, this is, this is really like experience Charlie.
Wow.
Our dogs stay in a kennel on the other room, all right? Wow.
So is this-
Don't you judge me after you've said this whole thing.
This is a no kink shaming podcast.
Clearly we've been open-minded with you
to be open-minded with Charlie.
And also I'm not even saying anything about what I'm doing,
but I'm just saying, I know that something
that anyway.
So is this your, is this your thing?
Like you like being the, what is it a dominatrix Charlie?
I think that do you call yourself a dominatrix?
No it's kind of horrifying to think of it, but man, he just hit her like he satisfies
me and that's super fun and everything.
There's some things that are amazing to him that I do, but I don't know.
He's so bored.
He is going through school.
He's almost done with schooling and he works out an elevator, like a greenery elevator.
He's manager there and then he works part-time at the hotel as maintenance man.
But like anytime he's home,
if he's not throwing the kids around,
the kids I swear are going to be little friggin bull riders,
especially my youngest because they do like just being thrown into a couch or whatever.
They're all for all of it and do it to each other.
So then he'll play with them.
But between him and I, I was like, Oh, we should wrestle. You can throw me around, but he wants to be
all gentle and all sweet. I figure if maybe I throw him with a little bit help and kind
of weak couple of ropes or whatever, it might be a little more interesting, you know?
Okay. I like it. I like it. Let's try it out. Let's try it out.
Yeah. Well, you know what? Uh, Miles and I, we're gonna, we'll, we'll throw in a whip on this. Uh, Jared, can we look up a nice, uh,
whip to send over? We'll get you a care package.
Be like, uh, it's going to have to be like a Wyoming bull whip.
Wyoming bull whip. It has to be.
I feel like that's probably the most genuine, right? Yeah.
That's genuine. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. We'll get that going. Um, you want chains too, or just a whip?
Ooh, chains might be fun hanging from the ceiling, like a little, a little hog or something. Yeah.
No, he's not. I'm like that. Okay. Maybe not. Hey, you got to remember it's not just about what the bowl rider wants.
It's about what the bowl wants. And I think you are the bowl in this analogy.
I am horrified. All right. I am not dominatrix. Like I'm like, oh yeah,
you do whatever to me. So it's going to be a horrifying experience all around.
I just want to know if it'll get his heart rate.
You know what you keep saying? You don't want this. I think you want this. You've put in a lot of
people who don't want this are not calling in to a podcast telling all the details.
They don't want it. Here's how it usually goes. Huh? Well, I could tie them up and whatever, but
nah, I don't want to do that. And it And it ends right there. Not this seems to have gone about 15 to 20 steps further than that.
So I think that, yeah, just accept your fate.
Yeah. You enjoy it and that's fine.
You know, that's great. Embrace that.
And we're going to send you a complimentary whip and chain.
And if you're lucky, maybe we'll get you that barrel too, that you can hide in.
But the sexy clown costume that's going to have to be on you.
Unless Miles wants to put that in his credit card.
I might have one in storage.
I'll see.
But a couple rodeos yourself.
I heard the Dan's pregnant.
That doesn't make sense.
No, I know.
I'm about what they would call vanilla.
So you don't got to worry about that with me make sense. No, I know. I, I'm about what they would call vanilla. So, uh,
you don't gotta worry about that with me, Charlie. Well, I, I, I'm not doing any of
that with you miles. I know, but just in case you're wondering yet, I mean, we'll see what
happens. Well, congratulations. Oh, thank you very much, yeah.
Congratulations to you too.
Listen, I think, bottom line,
we're happy you got out of this abusive relationship.
Yeah, you seem to be in a much better spot.
Screw that other guy, that tiny dong fella.
And now you got yourself a big old horse
who's ready to buck the bull,
and you're ready to just be that rodeo clown.
What is that?
How do I bring this up to him?
Like, can you guys kind of role play the conversation I'm supposed to have with him about like what's going to happen?
Well, before we role play, first option, you just slide the consent form over to him and stare him deep in the eyes and wait till he signs it.
Then no other words are spoken. Yeah. And, and then it's on, you know,
there. And I think that's what you gotta do. Just slide a consent form over,
have them sign it. Don't break eye contact with them. And then it's go time.
I say sign it.
I hold my breath the whole time too so my eyes get kind of watery
staring at him? Kind of buggy. Yeah a little vein in the forehead popping out. Yeah I feel like yeah
okay okay so then the conversation following that. Yeah there's no conversation it's go time.
Strap him down after that huh? I whip him a couple of times to like get you fucking chapped.
Yeah.
Also, if you run out of ropes,
Charlie recommends ratchet straps.
Yeah.
Recommended that in a different scenario to another caller.
Mm-hmm.
So.
He won't be going anywhere.
Bed or the roof?
Bed or roof?
Bed or roof?
Oh, that's funny. Have you heardck like hamster, whatever in the car.
You guys hear about that? Yeah. Tick tock hamster. No, what about it?
Or if you have sun roof, then you have the little water hamster. If you have a
male and a female, they just kind of lean in from sun roof.
You got hamsters on your car. I'm completely lost. Okay. So, okay. Sun roof female sits in driver's seat. Male
is laying on top of car with sun roof open naked. The water hamster. Oh my god. Get it, get it.
Oh my god.
Okay, hang on.
Can you explain one more time?
Cause now I'm just-
Have you ever seen a hamster drink water?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now just imagine not drinking water,
drinking something else.
Okay, from a guy laying on the sunroof.
Yes.
I see.
My mom listens to this podcast.
That's where my skills go.
Does your mom actually listen?
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Well, not this episode.
You don't know. I'll have to tell her to skip this one.
Yeah. Usually skip this part.
I should put that in the writing of this one is first warning.
Mother, do not listen and then continue on what the podcast is about.
But hear me out. OK, so my best skills fit with the hamster. Oh my God. You're saying,
okay, that's where my best skills lay. So if I ratchet strap him to the roof, could
start everything with that and then drop him and then tie him up and all that. Right? Wait,
you do what to them in time up? Like just drop him from the roof, drop him just maybe a bed underneath,
but just like undo one of the ratchets and just let it fall. You know, for the adrenaline
rush, like a skydiving from the roof to bed. See, I see man. You're creative. Crazy. I
was going to say, so that's a good scenario. I think some of my exes crazy might've actually, actually poured out off a little.
And I'm just trying to process it a different way.
All right.
Do you think that's part of it?
Do you think it's that?
I mean, you're saying he's bored.
He's bored.
He's bored.
Are you a little bored?
I don't think I'm honestly too bored.
I think I'm just, I don't know.
Maybe it is a subconscious like I'm putting on him, but it's coming from me.
But I know I'm not bored in that area.
Maybe I'm just trying to think of a more fun, crazy,
out of this world thing to do.
And he's just going to have to strap on and be part of the project.
Well, I think strap on was the key word there. And we wish you
leave that with the X-House.
He can have all that.
Wow.
Well, we really appreciate you calling in today.
This has been very exciting.
Keep an eye on the mail for our whip and chain.
And that's, we'll put a koozie in there too for you.
How does that sound?
Only if it comes filled with tippy cow, okay?
You guys said you're gonna send it before I'd love a love real tippy calf sent this time cuz can't find it nowhere near me
Okay, no, we'll take a note down. Yeah, let's let's tell them to get it to the distributor
Well, thank you for calling in and right after you finish doing what you're gonna do with your husband
Just tell them that miles and Charlie says hi. All right, I
Will look him dead in the eyes straight face while he's still inside me. Say Charlie says hello cool
miles to yeah, oh
Man you're a you're a fun one back. Hey betcha guy. Yeah, I say, oh, you betcha.
There you go.
Oh my, well this-
And then go to the bathroom,
so you're like, oh, Craig.
What?
I said, and then I'll go to the bathroom
and be like, oh, Craig.
I'm glad enough that he can hear.
Get a little bit of puss you guys in there.
There you go.
God, we could talk to you all day,
but I'd have to go to confession, so.
Thank you. We're gonna have to go to the confession booth.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's a timeout booth at this bar.
We'll step in there and we'll tell the good Lord
what we heard today, but Hey, good luck.
Becoming that sexy rodeo clown and we wish you the best.
And if he can't handle the bowl,
give the kitchen, get out of the kitchen
there you have it or the ring or the bedroom yeah thanks for calling in.
Have a good one bye bye. You too. Bye now. Yeah well Miles I I usually see him coming
this one I did I half the time I was like dang
I really got hit by that garage door today, you know, yeah
I was like dreaming or not. I don't even know. Yeah, I don't even know no
I do honestly think it's her that's the one that's a scotch board
You know cuz the fella seems happier than hell, you know
But and the fellow doesn't seem to be
asking for this, but she has detailed plans.
I think her plan is, is, he doesn't know that he wants it
until he gets it, is I think what her mentality is.
You know?
Yeah.
It's like, yeah.
So, we'll see.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Folks, we are lucky enough to have a professional at law
here today, Russell, ladies and gentlemen,
from Nickel Egg Law.
Russell, welcome to the show.
Thank you, appreciate that, guys.
Glad you're in town.
Is your mic on?
Oh yeah, it's on.
Is it?
Yeah, he's on.
I can't hear him in my ears.
They're messing with my cell.
Oh, there we go.
There it is, there it is there it is okay
All right, so Russell. I feel like at the at the top of the show
Miles and I were discussing the fact that I just got bumped in the noggin by a
Garage door at a parking garage may or may not be concussed. We don't know yet. We don't know
I am feeling a little goofy, but there are other I could have been
the double melatonin I took last night.
You know, I could just be clearing out the brain fog.
It's too early to tell.
I will say this, Miles did a little flashlight test with his pupils
were moving around, which I think is good.
And first of all, why I'm trusting Miles on the medical advice, I don't know.
But I am trustworthy.
He does. Honestly, he
gives off trustworthy vibes. If you just act confident, then people will believe you. And
that's what I did. And he didn't hesitate. I just pulled that flashlight out and started
flashing in your face. That's a good point. Cause he did that without even asking. So
he looked like he knew what he was doing right off the bat. Did you know miles was an athlete?
I just found that out today. Actually, my office manager is telling me I played football.
I did. I did play football.
I did see the lot of the flashlights in teammates eyes.
I luckily never had to have the flashlight test for a concussion,
but I saw that. So did you know what they were looking for?
Yeah. If your pupils are dilated, then that's not a good sign.
OK. You know, it's like when people are really drunk, they, that's why I do the flashlight on a sobriety test to see if your pupils are moving around.
Ah, I see. I think so. You never administered it though? No, no. So watched enough. Yeah. It's, you know, monkey see monkey do. Yeah. Now question. I mean, this is great timing because you work a lot with injuries. Correct?
That's true. And I am, I'm going to say, we'll just say potentially injured, emotionally
injured, potentially physically injured. Yes. And so what advice would you give Charlie
here? Maybe advice is a bad word. I don't know how it works in the law. If you can officially
give them, if he hasn't signed a you know letter of
Engagement or anything like that, but yeah, and there's always a risk because I'm drinking bush light here. Yeah
But I would say the first thing is to make sure you're all right
Which miles is kind of working on that make sure you actually do you need medical attention? I think I'm fine
Okay. All right. Well, then the next step would be probably to go file incident report with
the hotel. This is already starting to sound like a lot of paperwork.
So a lot of how much let's start with this. How much could I squeeze out of this?
Yeah, this is a ballpark. No, yes.
Hitting the head with a garage door concussion. Major hotel chain.
Yeah. Well, one thing is because it's a major hotel chain,
they're probably going to fight it like hell.
So that's the first problem.
But second, well, that sounds like your problem.
Yeah, that would be my problem.
If I was your lawyer that did right.
That's my problem. That's why I get hired. Yeah.
I'd say the big thing for you, though, is we got to figure out what kind of like
what actually do you have wrong with you because not to scare you.
But if you get hit in the head a lot of times
You don't know what the actual damage is for some time
So it's like a lot of people get TBI is because actually a concussion is a TBI traumatic brain injury
so you can have like it's like
15% of people have residual effects after the initial
Yeah, now you got a fallback your career starts tanking you blame it on the king guys had a TBI
Yeah, yeah, I am a
You start going crazy like Britney Spears and shave your head. Well, no, it's cuz of the concussion because of the TBI, baby
Yeah, we just throw it on that. Okay
Yeah, so you gotta have a good way to blame a lot of stuff right now based on if anything goes south
You could just say hey, it's not my fault man. I would have done a good job, but I got TBI.
Now, if I were the I like that, I like that plausible deniability there.
If I were the hotel, though, I'd be like, please, how do we know you got that
from this and didn't walk around the corner and fall on the concrete?
That's that's a legitimate concern.
That's why usually you want to I mean, obviously, if a witness would be different,
you didn't have one, apparently. why usually you want to. I mean, obviously, if a witness would be different, you didn't have one, apparently.
But usually you want to go file.
I think that I saw it happen.
Yeah, I I did.
I did have a witness.
Miles, you think or you saw it happen?
I I definitely saw you coming down the garage ramp.
Yeah. And I had noticed I was like, that was really
weird. Well, you know, the garage door came down, hit him in the head. And then he started
walking S curves down the way. You saw the S I didn't know if you were doing the Sherpa
back and forth or if you were concussed and that's where we're at. Yeah. Must've been
concussed. I actually heard him go, Oh man, that hurt bad. I heard.
Yeah. Well, I did say that. And in fact, miles that help our cause. I mean, there was a verbal
exclamation by Charlie miles. They probably have security cameras.
I was going to say your best bet is to actually let them know about it. And then you can tell
them, Hey, I want the security camera. They may not give you the footage, but once you
put them on notice, they have to preserve it. hey, I want the security camera They may not give you the footage, but once you put them on notice they have to preserve it
So they probably have a security camera that saw you can hit you don't need miles
Story or or whatever we'll call it saw it happen. You can just look at the camera. It's called a testimony
Sure testimony perjury, whatever you want to call it. Okay. Well
Realistically though like let's say this actually did cause a concussion
and I wanna go, I probably don't wanna go to the hotel first
and file an incident report
because they'd probably destroy the footage right away,
right?
Well that would be tampering with evidence.
Yeah, they call it spoilation of evidence
but could it happen?
Spoilation.
So should people go to you immediately
after an incident like this happens?
So we always tell them to get medical attention first.
Medical attention.
OK, yeah, we got that.
We got from Miles.
I administered it.
Now what?
Dr. Miles.
OK, so we have that.
And let's assume he knows what he's doing because of his
watching.
I'm an exercise scientist.
Right.
So then the next step would I still
have you
file incident report and then come to us because we want to
make sure you document it. But if you didn't, then we would
do it for you. So like, oh, there you go. I would call over
and say, hey, just so you know, I represent Charlie Barron's.
This door fell on him. I happened this time about this
time, this date. I want to file an instant report and I need
you to give me the footage and the price. I'm not going to
get you the footage and I'll say, oh, I'm sending over a
letter for you to preserve it because we're going to need it later. me the footage and they'll probably tell you we're not gonna get you the footage and I'll say, oh I'm sending over a letter for you to preserve it
because we're gonna need it later.
You know and then they probably have footage
of you getting hit and then that's it.
So then we can use it, then we gotta see how you're doing.
You know you eventually go treatment
if there's more than miles
and we'll see how you're feeling down the road.
And hopefully you're feeling right.
Hopefully it's not a big claim
and then there's really not much to it
and you just get healthy.
But unfortunately for some folks
for TBIs it goes the other way.
Now, let's say this was a parking ramp.
This is, I think, the other interesting question of this. There's a parking ramp, right?
Probably I wasn't supposed to walk down the parking ramp.
So I was in the wrong there.
You know, say that on this pump.
Well, I mean, I'm not actually going to sue these guys, but I'm trying.
I'm supposed to tell him to not say anything.
Isn't that your job? Well, we want the truth, though. So like we're I'm supposed to tell him to not say anything. Isn't that your job?
We want the truth though. So like we're we just don't have to say anything
No, but what would your angle be? What would your angle be? Because like if they were like well
He's not supposed to be walking down the wrong way down a parking ramp. Would you be like well?
He was parking it my thought process, you know is that my car was down there
Oh, it's an easier way to go down there than to go inside, go through the elevator.
I don't see anything wrong with it.
There are no cars coming.
It's like walking on the side of the street.
Yeah.
You walk close to the edge.
That's a good point.
I mean, they probably would argue that,
hey, some of the fault's on you
because why'd you walk through there?
But there is also how many people do that.
And the other thing you might find out
is that there's been other people
that have been hit by this door,
so they already know about it.
That happens a lot with things where people get hurt and
they're kind of embarrassed. Like, you know, Hey, I shouldn't have walked. Maybe I shouldn't
walk through there. And you find out later, like five other people hit were hit with the
door. They just didn't want to change.
Class action lawsuit. A lot of money there, baby. Break it in.
I don't know. Maybe you guys should be the lawyers. I'll just look.
I don't think you want that. But also what I like is Charlie. He gave me an option to do less paperwork. That's what I'm always
looking for. Yeah. At least amount of paperwork that I can do. That's that's the goal. Yeah.
Oh, I tell you, too. If people come to us, I mean, we're going to do as much work as
we can for you, especially when you're injured. You don't need that stress. So if we need
to do the initial like report or whatever, we always take over for people because that's what we kind of pride herself. And it's like taking that
off their shoulders. So we've always tried that. And I mean, like just when you're injured,
you had, it took you extra time to get here and that kind of stuff is just one extra thing
that we take care of.
And time is money. So there's money damages as well, Charlie financial damages. Yeah.
Yeah. So Russell, I got a question for you.
As a lawyer, you get asked a lot of questions
about being a lawyer, because no one understands it.
What's the most common question you get from people?
Yeah, that's a hard one.
I think the way that we usually get or I get asked questions
are almost always family law stuff.
Hey, I think I got to divorce my my wife or husband, you know, like I've got some questions.
I don't handle that. I did years ago. So I try not to dabble in that anymore.
But that's what you hear from a lot of people like they're like, especially if you're a bar.
Hey, I was wondering, you know, what would happen to my cabin or what would happen to my house?
If this, you know, that's theoretically speaking.
Yeah. So you're at a bar the most common you question you get at a bar when you're there is about
If I get divorced what's gonna happen? Yeah, that adds up
Yeah, it does the first question is always what you do
And then I tell me to entry law and then they they still ask about the stuff
That's so fun like it is far. So, if people are coming up and asking about a divorce
at a bar, like the main question is about property is about money.
What are people asking you about divorces?
Yeah, I mean, is a lot of time it's about property.
Will they lose this? Will they lose that?
You know, is it true they have to split everything 50 50 in most states?
Or usually at a bar
being Wisconsin, that's kind of the presumption, 50-50.
Then there's some more serious stuff about kids.
But I always just tell them, hey, I don't do that anymore.
I'm not the guy for you.
I can give you some names.
Yeah, yeah, it's a good business to get out of.
I'd have to imagine that that's an anxiety inducing business.
Probably lucrative, though.
Yeah, dang. Yeah, there's a lot of work out there for it, for sure.
A lot of work out there.
And those conversations go on and on and on and on and on.
How would you know?
And on and on. Actually, mine was fairly quick.
And what do you say when both parties are cool with it?
I had a concussion today, I can't think. And what do you say when both parties are cool with it?
I had a concussion today, I can't think. Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll find it.
Yeah, we'll find it.
It's uncontested basically.
Yeah, it was mutual.
We agreed on everything pretty quick.
It was pretty friendly.
It was good.
It was good.
No problems.
I'll tell you the one thing at a bar that's a problem though,
you will tell someone initially,
hey, I don't do that, I can't answer it.
Three, four beers later, they're back with that same question. So then
you got to remind them, Oh, we just give it. That's, I mean, the whole premise of this
podcast. You go to the bar for free advice. It doesn't matter what kind of advice, you
know, that's what they, they see a free lawyer in the room and that's where they're going.
Yeah. You know, in their defense too, they're usually often buying me beers because they think it's fun to have a lawyer at the bar
once I tell them it.
I try to keep that low key, but then I decide,
you know what, if they're buying me beers,
I guess I gotta give some advice, right?
So it's the trade-off.
Yeah, well, I mean, those are the cheapest beers
you're ever gonna buy, you know?
Yeah.
What's the most common injury that people don't report or think anything about,
you know, and they should?
You're probably not gonna like this,
but what just happened to you, TBI?
Because most people, you can't, two things,
one, you often can't see a TBI,
and number two, your brain's what tells you you're injured
and you injured your brain, so,
so not to be the Debbie Downer, the negative guy here, but like, you, you know injured your brain. So it's not to not to be the Debbie Towner and the negative here. But like you, you know, you're injury.
She well, also, though, Charlie, it's like you don't want to be a
tattletale either. Well, I know that's that's well, that's exactly why
it goes on to report. You want to be a narc? Because once you get the
narc label, it's tough to shake that. And well, what would you do if I got hit by this garage door?
What would you do?
Yeah. If so, if I was your lawyer or if I if you were Charlie.
Yeah, if you were me, what would you do?
I'd probably go get.
We'll see how you feel, but I'd probably get checked out at some point.
But you did have miles do that.
So let's just we'll put that aside.
I would probably report it.
Just report it, because if it turns out to be nothing and you're. So let's just, we'll put that aside. I would probably report it, just report it.
Cause if it turns out to be nothing
and you're feeling a hundred percent better tomorrow,
big deal, you reported it.
I don't think they're going to label you a narc.
They're just going to put down that you reported
you got hit with a garage.
I've heard some murmurs here in the bar.
There's a lot of narc talk already, Charlie.
So you just want to be careful.
All right.
Well, if I were to report it,
even if that made me a narc, Miles,
who do I really just go tell that the hotel is, hey, I want to let you know
I got a hit in the fucking head by your garage door.
And exactly like that, you don't want to write that down.
Yeah. But can't they just be like, OK?
Well, I so it depends to who owned.
Is it the parking ramp owned by the actual hotel?
But let's just say it's assumed it's owned by the hotel.
They're going to have a procedure for that.
They're going to be like, all right, you know, Charlie Burns,
I need you to fill out this form.
We're going to have this guy fill it out.
We'll sign it and they'll have it.
But yeah, yeah.
Also, I this is not making fun of your TBD.
Yeah. What is it? TV, TVI, TVI. But not to making fun of your TBD. Yeah. What is it? TBI, TBI, but not to make fun
of it, but you have asked the same question now four times. So there might be some memory
loss. I have not add, do not mess with me now. Miles on top of it. You've asked them
about what you should immediately do four times now. No, I I good for you
They got more of a case that I that I understand
Maybe I do
Maybe I do dude. I definitely feel like a little loopy, you know
But I don't think I had a concussion but like you kind of always feel a little I'm always a little yeah, you know
I didn't drink last night. Yeah
Yeah, so I'm not hung over that helps
Yeah, but you know what I'll I'll find a doctor see if there's anything actually wrong
It honestly I think it could just be the melatonin you guys ever take melatonin wake up in the morning be like what the fuck day
Is it? I?
Know I don't take melatonin never taken I. I have, but well, when you took it,
did you feel like that? You can't remember. I can't remember. It's a, it's a hell of a
drug right there. Melatonin. Isn't it just a natural supplement? Nothing natural. But
what did to me last night? I was in Jared's room last night. Last question I have for
both Charlie and Russell today. Let's hope it's not the same question I already asked four times. No, no, I am my I don't have a TBI
right now. So, um, you brought your new, uh, bottle of brandy to his office and you signed
it and he wrote injured or no. Yeah. Do you like that? And I'd like
to workshop this. He said, Hey, that's a great idea for billboard. Are we going to be seeing
any injured or no billboards popping up anywhere? Yeah, I think we got to do it now because
I didn't see it originally that I looked over and I saw injured or no. And I was like, genius,
just genius miles side. He he said same thing, right?
You got you got to put his face on the billboard to it'll be this face.
And it'll just be me like huge pupils.
It should be peeking over the top of the billboard, you know,
to just be a garage.
The billboard should be a garage door. It comes down on my head.
I'll tell you what, Miles, I will do it as long as you'll be.
You'll defend me against him when he, when I'm using his intellectual property
of Charlie's face on there saying injured or no.
No, if there's, if there's anything about me and Charlie, you just put something
in front of us and we'll just sign it without reading.
So you just make do up a document, him forfeiting all of his intellectual
rights and then it'll be good.
I like that plan. That's good advice.
He's not going to read it.
Let's guys, let's riff this billboard though.
What if there was an actual garage door on the billboard that was just going up and down
hitting you in the head?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's me.
Like I appear garage door comes to like, it's an animatronic and animatronic, you know,
those mechanical things. So it's me walking, walking, an animatronic, you know those mechanical things.
So it's me walking, walking, walking.
Hits me in the head, I go, oh, and then injured or no.
Yeah, and then I could be there with a flashlight.
Yeah.
Doing the eye test thing.
Could be a whole animation.
Yeah.
Could do an LED board.
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
We're gonna have to do LED.
Let's do a video.
We'll reenact the scene, Charlie.
That'd be kind of a co, I kinda like billboards,
like how they, how you can get funny with them, you know?
I really like, like for instance, you know,
you've got the adult super store and then you,
the next one is Need Jesus, you know?
You know, we talked about that yesterday.
What if we did a sequencing of billboards. Like it was you, the garage door, you
walking. And then the next billboard was a hitting and then next one was me
flashing you in the eyes. And the last one said injured or no. I like that. I
like that. Oh, I like this idea. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually, there we go. I
think some of the best ideas come at the bar. I think they do. Or after you get hit by a crash door.
So I noticed driving the, because I can't go two miles
without seeing your face on a billboard around this area.
Sorry about that.
I noticed, though, there was another injury law firm
that had a billboard.
And I'm wondering, who was there first?
Are you finding other injury
law billboards and putting yours next to them and being funnier than them? Or were they,
do they go after you? I mean, there's probably a mixture. I think I was telling Charlie yesterday,
my first billboard was in 2009. So I'd like to say I was wrong before some of these other guys,
but yeah, if I see an open spot that they may have been at or maybe didn't renew, I'm taking
it. Yeah, there he is. I like that little billboard shark.
The blood in the water, you know, open billboards in the air, dude.
He's the words are in the air.
We're going to do a verbal meme right now.
When when Russell sees an empty billboard and it's that guy rubbing his hands together.
That's good. That's good. Or it's a guy going like this, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Kind of.
What do you mean? Kind of what one is that? I think it's a muppet that goes like, Oh yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like kind of the googly eyes, you know, or the side eyes.
All I know is Russell is absolutely licking his chops
when he sees an empty billboard.
Yeah, that's the truth.
And you know, you ever see that huge billboard?
It's by it's between Kakauna and Appleton.
It used to be, I think, by the dog track.
Yeah.
I just signed that up last night.
Oh, God.
You get is that what gets you?
Is that what gets you going?
Like a lot of people, they make some money and they're like, oh, I'm going to get a cabin.
I'm going to put an addition on the house.
And you're like, oh, what billboard am I going to get?
Yes, pretty much how it goes.
My wife's like, you're going to put that money away for the kids college.
I'm like, no, I just got a couple more billboards.
Reinvest. You get a reinvest.
I mean, you you have to have thrown around the idea that you
may eventually just have a monopoly on billboards in an
area like you can't be that far off from just having every
single billboard in a certain area.
Some areas. Yeah, I think what I what I thought was pretty cool is on I think his Facebook. Some
guys say, can we just normalize calling them Russell boards? So billboards?
I wish I thought of that. You know, it's a fine. It's a fine art though of trying to
pick the billboards because you can't pick too many because then people get sick of it.
You know, it's kind of like exposure over exposure. It's a fine line.
Or it's just you go the up. If you just go way past that point, then it's they're fine with it again.
That's true. If you're shameless.
Well, I don't want to be shameless. And also I had my own dad tell me that I think he is saying,
hey, you know what? I think you can need to back off just a little bit.
But then I just got this big billboard that we're going to do. I think he was saying, hey, you know what? I think you can need to back off just a little bit.
So but then I just got this big billboard that we're going to do.
I don't know.
You're addicted, man.
I am.
If you're like me, though, my dad tells me to do something.
I want to do the opposite anyways.
So that's true.
Why don't you buy it?
Do you own any billboards?
Just rent them.
I mean, most of the spaces, too, because they have, you know,
it's like a billboard company rents the space that rents it from a farmer. So I should just go to the farmers and just tell them, Hey man, I'm your
guy cut out the middle man. We're going to Russell boards Russell points. I think you
want to be investor in that or what? I'll think about it. And Charlie, you need to wait
till before you invest because we got to see if this is a concussion or not. I got to sign stuff. Sorry. I got a TMI too much information, too much information on my TBI baby. Well, I suppose we appreciate
you coming by the bar today. I just show a nice little treat. Got a little legal, not
advice legal legalese discussion. Legally smile. And, And, man, this is great. Yeah. I just liked
that our attorney wears flannel. You know, that's what, that's what gets me going. I
got to grow my beard out now. I know I got a little beard. I need to be beating you on
the beard game. Thank God you finished that sentence a different way. Yeah, you play a pretty solid beard though. If you grew it out. So, Oh yeah, I have had
it before and then my wife hates it. So that was my question. Was your wife going to be
cool with a massive beard and energy? I keep it kind of under. Yeah. Yeah. I usually do
it in the winter time, but I didn't this winter, maybe next winter. Well, where can the folks
find you at? Yeah. They are. If they did happen to walk underneath a garage door and get a TBI.
Well, pretty much any road throughout Wisconsin, North Dakota or Minnesota, you can find us
or now a quick trips or at a Nicolay law.com or get us on Facebook, but yeah, or one eight
five five Nicolay and make it real easy for people to find.
But remember there's a silent tea at the end guys, when you're dialing that number. Yeah. But yeah, or one eight five five Nicolay make it real easy for people to find remember
There's a silent tea at the end guys when you're dialing that number. Yeah
It's don't put an ay at the end. What's French like your last name, right?
Are you yeah, we we move there's you we won't play you well. Thanks for coming man. I appreciate it
Thanks guys Charlie you ever been to a Sunday brunch? Oh yeah. You know what
I think more Sunday brunches need to have? What's that Miles? Tippy cow. Oh hell yeah. I mean
what goes better than a creamy delicious tippy cow than little bacon and eggs? I mean I tell you
what you give me some bacon and eggs and a chocolate shake, a boozy chocolate shake on top of that.
Think about eating it with your
pancakes or French toast, little chocolate on top. Yeah. I think then you start making
tippy cow French toast. Hey, that what would you call it? Tippy toast, a tippy toast. That's
better. See you. Also with a tippy toast here, Charlie. A tippy toast to you, Miles.
Cheers, my guy.
Welcome to the Bellied Up Podcast.
Who we talking to?
Is he whistling?
He's whistling while he works.
Hello?
Hello?
Hey, nice whistle.
Hey, thanks.
You like my whistling?
Yeah, welcome.
I don't know what what to call that one.
Well, you call it the working whistle. What are you doing? Yeah. I'm just getting back
to work here. What are you guys doing drinking somewhere? Right? Yeah. We're in St. Paul,
Minnesota. Where are you at? I'm in somewhere south of the metro here. I don't really know exactly where.
Well, why don't you?
Somewhere by Wiconia.
Why don't you belly up to the bar with us? Tell us what's on your mind.
Well, so I guess my question is,, I'm the captain manager
of a field league softball team.
Congratulations.
And, thank you, thank you.
And about four years ago,
me and a bunch of high school buddies put together a team.
And now four years later,
I'm running into the problem of as good
as I would like to see on the team.
So I'm wondering how you tell some good buddies
that they are no longer a part of your beer league
softball team.
That's a tough one.
You know, especially if you guys know each other
a long time, I think there's a few routes.
One, you could take a year off,
say you're disbanding the team,
and then you just start up another team the year after that
with a whole new host of guys,
and you say that they asked you to be on their team,
so then you're like, ah, I came out of retirement
because they asked me to do it.
That could be one option.
What's another option, Charlie?
Another option is you just say, Hey, I hate to say it.
You guys suck at softball and it's killing me.
And you know, we've tried it for a while. It's not working.
I'd give you another chance, but I know how it's going to go.
You're not putting the work in and you can't be on the team.
See you next time. You guys want to come to the bar after, that's fine.
That'd be the direct route.
Here's a question I have for you, Charlie.
Yeah.
I, and I just, this is purely experimental.
I'm not saying this, but I wonder if maybe
the manager is the problem here.
Are you getting the most out of your guys slash? Are you taking
beer league softball a little too serious?
Oh, that I've never thought of it that way. Um, that could be that could well when you that's a good point. I might be taking it too serious
when everybody everybody comes up and there's certain times where where it'd be a fly ball
the right field and it's the first inning of the game and then the other team notices
that our right fielder can't catch a ball. So now every ball that's hit is the right field and then that's
where it's just an endless wheel. Trying to find a right fielder that we can't find and maybe
maybe I need to go off the right field. Well I gotta ask. Maybe that might be. In beer league
softball it's kind of like little league baseball. Isn't every right fielder the worst player on the
team? That's exactly
it. So you, why don't you guys hit into their right field? Well, because we're not that
good in Charlie. Oh, I get it. We can't, we can't. That's why he's on this call. Yeah.
Yeah. If we, I think if we could, I think if we could, we would. How often are you guys
practicing? Are you given your team ample opportunity to improve or are you just expecting everyone to show up?
Once a week and be better magically
Well last year we had a practice the week before the season started and we had three guys show up so
We don't really practice no, but you would think weekly the longer it goes on that they'd
get at least a little better.
So can you just stick the worst player at a different position or do a do like volleyball
does and everyone rotates a position to keep then they then they have to constantly be
identifying who is the weakest link and then they're
gonna get in the other team's head if they're just always in right
field they know they just got to hit it to right field but if you just keep
rotating players around the infield the outfield then they don't know where to
hit it. I'd always keep them in the outfield. Yeah, what if there's four or five of them? No.
Yeah. I mean, you are the manager. You need to take responsibility for your actions.
You signed these people up on the team. Did you not?
I did. I did. And how the trial, how,
how hammered were you when you said yes to this?
Pretty good
And now it's it's it's taken it's taken a chunk of my summer is away
I put so much time into it
Maybe I should maybe I should start a tournament team instead of a beer league softball team so people take it more serious
How much time could you really put into this?
If you guys don't practice and you just meet once a week though, like what else is involved
in managing a team that does not practice? He's got a smooth sponsors. He's got to get
all you got. Yeah. Right. Sponsors. You gotta, you gotta got to think of positions every week.
I mean, you sit down and it's a couple beer jobs for sure every week where you sit down.
And then you got to put up... The worst part is putting together the lineup. I mean,
I can throw fielding positions together, but when it comes to our batting order, I mean,
our 12 hitter will come one week and maybe we'll put the bat on the ball two times
and then he'll come the next week and he'll go eight for eight.
So it's a hit or miss every week.
You know, it's a lot like baseball though.
It's a lot like baseball.
I mean, that sounds like professional athletes right there.
Okay, I got a question for you. I mean that that sounds like professional athletes right there
Okay, I got a question for you in your mind, okay
What are the top things that make a beer league softball team great?
You need a pitcher is the first thing and then I'd say after that then it comes down to your team It comes down to camaraderie and you guys having fun you guys not having fun it could
come down to chemistry well you guys you guys know you guys everybody know each
other is it awkward on the bench I guess you could tie that into is everybody
having fun and stuff um and then the third is I I guess you gotta, I don't know.
Like the third one, you gotta be able to,
I don't know, hit the ball hard.
You hit the ball hard, you'll usually,
you'll usually, it will make a lot of people,
a lot of people are scared of the ball.
So the harder you hit it, the better chance you have
of at least getting on.
That's some, whoa, Mike was going,
that's some sage advice coming from the manager.
I'm starting to wonder if there might be
a little lack of focus from the upper management
of this team on how to make a better team.
Are most of the people there,
under the impression that they're playing baseball
or softball, that they're playing softball to win
or to just go to the bar after?
Like, Barley Softball, that's kind of the first thing
that you think of as the bar, you know?
Cause it's in the name like that.
So, if their focus isn't on winning, but it's on the bar,
this whole thing makes a lot of sense. But your focus is on winning, but it's on the bar. This whole thing makes a lot of sense,
but your focus is on winning.
Have you thought about bribing them?
Well, every, every, there was probably six out of the 10
weeks last year that we went 0-2,
and everybody was down and sad.
We go to the parking lot, the parking lot here is after,
and everybody's all down and they're all upset that we just lost. I mean, we all take it serious. It's just,
some people just aren't,
they're not very good is what he's saying. Yeah, they're not cut out for it.
That might, that might be it.
He's got a little bit of a bad news bears situation on his hands.
Very, very much. Yeah.
And I wonder if you would get more to satisfaction out of really taking this team the extra mile,
you know, maybe if you just get to the game a half hour before and run some drills that
could help, you know, and warm up maybe not once a week with pulling hammies because nobody's
warming up.
Yeah. Maybe not once a week with pulling hammies because nobody's warming up. Yeah, I know.
Showing up at six o'clock game.
What are the top pet peeves of bad softball players
on your Bar League softball team?
What are the top pet peeves?
That's gotta be the one there, Charlie,
is when the game's at six and then
you got guys say, Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm rolling in at six Oh five.
I mean, it hurts like an eight o'clock game. It can't be that hard to make an
eight o'clock game. Right. I mean, and they're rolling in at eight 15 or
already an inning or two in.
So not showing up on time. What else?
Yeah, not showing up on time. I guess, I mean, if, if they, I don't know. I mean, if they,
we've ran into a few guys that, that get a little too, they take it a little, I guess a little too serious, but they get mad.
They start throwing back and stuff. What's the throwing
stuff on the bench and stuff. I'm not really too fond of that. Dude, what's the biggest fight you've
seen in Bar League softball? I was watching the championship game two years ago and a guy,
there was bases loaded, two outs. Um, and I think it was a tie game and it was supposed to be ball four, but he didn't let it get
to the plate and he kind of like kicked it back towards the pitcher and he got halfway
to first and the ump called him back.
He called it a strike because he didn't let it hit the ground first.
And then the next pitch came in and he, if you fall out on your second pitch, it's a
strike out and softball, you fall out on your second pitch, it's, it's a strikeout in softball.
You only get two strikes and he hit a fall ball a second at bat and obviously that's
a strikeout. And then he started blowing up at the hump and he almost, he almost started
fighting the hump.
I think you need to jump leagues. It sounds like this league is not very fun at all.
No, I think we need to switch cities. Maybe.
Yeah. I think you're just need to, I think you need to get out of Dodge.
I think you just need to move.
He moves his entire family to get on a better Barley softball team.
Sorry, kids hate to take you out of school. I know you like your friends.
You're just going to have to get over it. We can't lose every year like this. It's not good for business. It's not good for dad. You can make new friends.
Yeah. You can make, yeah. I gotta make new friends. You gotta make new friends. Well,
I think you just need to lower the expectations. It sounds like you're kind of trapped. So just
make the best of it. Have some fun.
Maybe you know, find a way to make those people get really pissed, make them diffuse the situation
with telling them it's not that serious, you know, grand scheme of things when you're dying
on your death bed. I don't think you're going to be pissed about striking out and beer league
softball all those years ago. So that's miles. His advice. My
advice is to just have a heart to heart with them now and say, if you assholes aren't ready
to come to spring training, you're not on the team. Sorry. And then find some guys that
are ready to come to spring training. Maybe, maybe think about different motivation before
the games. You can read them the Jimmy V speech that he did at the espies or, Oh, there you go.
Just start reading them famous speeches. Vince Lombardi. Yeah. Yeah. It's all about the pregame
speech. Yeah. And then, and then from there, like if every point that scored is a beer
that you're buying at the bar, you know, and then use the sponsors. Yeah. Use the sponsors. Yeah. Do it. Do it. Do it
like they do on a round where we're at the mayor, the Legion baseball team. If a kid
brings a foul ball back to the stands, they get a free snow cone. Maybe every time that
an outfielder catches a fly ball,
you get to hand them a beer
and they trade the ball in for a beer.
Yeah, you bring a cooler of beers.
You could really turn this team around, I think.
And also-
There's definitely no shortage of beers.
Yeah, and the showing up late thing,
have them run a lap.
You start enforcing the lap rule.
Take a lap around that baseball diamond. No
one's going to be showing up late, you know, especially when they pull a hammy halfway
through their lap. Yeah. That's maybe a good point. Maybe you go harder on them. Yeah.
The ones that suck go harder on the running. Yeah. Cause guess what? They pull a hammy
out for the season. They can be replaced. That's how you get them out. You don't, you
never have to tell them to get out.
Make them pull a hammy.
Strike out, drop and give me 20.
Yeah, 20, right there, right there too.
20 pushups.
Taste the dirt on the way down.
If they're not tasting dirt,
they're not going far down enough.
So that's the protocol.
But you gotta remember, you can't just be,
you know, pounding and being hard on them. Remember what miles said, you've
got to study these speeches from the great coaches. Um, what was the
name of that? Who's yours coach that threw the chairs at him?
Bobby night. You gotta go Bobby night on these guys. Yeah. But you
gotta have the speeches to back up your anger.
So you need to go crazier than the guys throwing the bats.
Yes. Right.
Nothing will make someone feel right.
So if Charlie lost his mind and threw this bar stool across the room,
we would all be like, he's crazy. We don't want to be like him.
So you got to beat him to the punch and just start throwing shit
the minute they show up. Yeah.
Then they won't do that fear, but they've got to respect you.
So, you know, you got to be a little emotionally abusive.
You got to like say, Hey, you did good out there.
And, but, and then if you strike out or you do a strike,
they got to look over, you gotta be like, not my temple.
You know, like that whiplash thing where he throws a chair.
Just look at all the abusive coaches and teachers
and take a little something from each of them.
Gaslighting usually works.
Yeah.
You know?
Um, and another way you could get them to show up on time is just batting
order is by who shows up first.
Yeah, that's true.
Who?
That's good.
One.
And, and well, if the worst guy shows up for it, that's get them out of the way first inning, you know
It's just get them out of the way
Yeah, and the other thing then it's less work for you. You were complaining about too much work
Just have them do all the work they get to pick their own position. They get to they'll fall in line
reward them with beers
In the corporate community, they call that empowering their people. You just got
to make them do all the work. Yeah. It's good cop, bad cop. You're the good cop and you're
the bad cop. You're the bad cop when you're yelling at them, making them run laps, give,
give 20, do 20, keep being a stick around the time. But you're a good cop when you can,
you know, hand them a nice little beer from the cooler. You know, if they put Jimmy out in right field and he missed a fly ball,
then they feel responsible, not you.
And then they're looking at you like, what do we do?
Yeah. And also you've got to make practices more fun.
OK, who would want to go to practice if you're like, all right, guys,
we're throwing softballs, you got to catch them.
But what if you're throwing them beers?
You know, so if you're throwing them beers? You know?
So if you're sitting there launching them beers.
Yeah, instead of hitting softballs,
hit like apples and stuff.
Those are fun to watch explode.
Yeah, nothing guys like turn it into a game of Fruit Ninja.
Yeah, there you go, Miles.
See now it took us a while, but we're cooking with gas here.
What's that? We find something, I said a t-shirt cannon, but we're cooking with gas here What's that?
We find I said a t-shirt cannon, but a beer cannon maybe yeah fly ball beer cannon and make sure you bring good snacks
Make sure you bring good snacks for after the game
frankly before the game
Everybody's when you're a kid growing up playing baseball you weren't excited to go play the game. You were excited for which, you know, mom was on the docket of bringing snacks.
You know, if it was Jimmy's mom, she brought fruit rollups, dude.
We were getting there early just in case she brought some early game rollups.
I think one more suggestion is on the punishment side of it.
You got to take a page out of the golfers book.
So if a golfer hits the ball off the tee and it doesn't go past the ladies tee
they got to hit their next shot with their pants down if someone strikes out
or does a fly ball the next time at bat they got a bat with their pants down
little that's a good one yeah great camaraderie as well. Then it's also people are wanting to not strike out more
Yeah
That sounds like a great idea
Plus then it distracts the other team, you know
Distracts the other team. They don't know what's going on better chance
They're gonna miss a fly ball if his guys run into first base and his junk is flopping around
Right draws on the ground, right? That's a good one.
Yeah.
Well, we hope you take some of this with you.
Yeah, sure.
I'll be able to find a few few pieces in there.
Well, what's your team name, if you don't mind me asking?
Well, some of my teammates listen to this. So we'll say that we are the Jaguars.
Maybe spice up the team name.
I feel like it is.
Yeah, right.
Do what another corporate page out of the book here, when they get into a scandal, then
they just change their company name.
Just change your name and it'll be like we we're not longer the Jaguars, we're the Lions.
And the Lions are a different story than the Jaguars were.
Change the story, change the narrative.
Well good luck to the Jaguars this coming season.
It looks like you got a lot to think about and I think that, I don't know, this is your
year. I think so too. I think so too. Sound like we call that mid season. Okay. Yeah.
Give us a mid season update. No, I've been thinking. Yeah. I've been thinking they might
have the whole of spring training. Yeah. Pitchers, pitchers and catchers need to report ASAP.
Yep, yep. Start now and weed through the, the weak links.
Okay, I'll let you guys go.
All right, fella. Be good now.
Yeah, you guys too. Watch out for deer.
All right. See ya.
I like how it never occurred
to him that maybe he should just try and do a better job.
But not at all. He was like, Oh, oh shit. I guess you just gave him the most basic advice.
He's like, you know, I never thought about that. I was like, are you kidding me, dude?
And I love how he's going to change the name because some of the guys on the team listen
to it. If they don't like they know exactly what his voice sounds like. They're going
to know. What do you think the actual team name was?
I don't know. I don't know that part. You know, I usually I thought like when, when I grew up doing barley softball, like
watching like my dad and uncle's play, they would just name it after the bar. They went
there. Yeah. Like Tamarack was a bar in Milwaukee. They were the Tamarack. So it's yeah, it's
probably just a bar, but maybe it's the kind of thing where it's friends of friends, you
know? And I don't know. Yeah. Well, good luck to the Jaguars this season.
Yeah. Good luck. Oh, yeah.
Well, I'll go up to the Jaguars.
And I think that that it's about does it for us today?
Yes, it does. Charlie, another good episode of the books.
No nausea on my concussion.
Yeah. I was certain. no wonder how you're doing.
You got any update? You feeling good?
You're feeling good. Honestly, if you, you know, it, I think it was the melatonin
that was a little groggy, little grog, little GROG. Although I probably
shouldn't say that on the podcast. If I'm looking to possibly get a lawsuit
going in the future. So, um, you're kind of, you know, what is that?
Incriminating yourself here?
Well, I, I, I honestly can't be trusted. I can't be trusted. Um,
after I got hit in the head because I mean, really the,
nothing I say matters. You really just got to check the security camera footage,
which if you delete it, uh, that is a spoiling evidence and it's a felony.
So I wouldn't do that. I'd think twice about that.
And if all goes to hell, just plead insanity after the fact.
If they listen to this podcast as evidence. Yeah.
Well, I got plenty of evidence for that. I got we got hundreds of episodes.
You know, yeah, you're insane. Yeah, I'm pretty nuts.
So so I'll tell them about birding and they'll be like, yeah, this is true.
Yeah. Birdwatching is just snorkeling, but above water.
This guy's clearly nuts.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, guys, thanks for tuning into another episode of the Bellied Up
podcast. As always, we love you. Thanks for tuning in.
And Charlie, what do they always got to remember?
Well, you got to watch for deer and tip your bartender.
See you in the next one. Bye bye now.