Bellied Up - Why Are We Midwest Nice? #101

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

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Welcome back to another episode of the belly it up podcast. I am miles. You bet you got here with Charlie Barron's the Wisconsin guy Charlie I really really really really really really like your hat. Thank you miles. You know what? I'm like really have a hat envy right got a little hand be I get it. I get it a fella came to one of my shows and He gave it to me He gave me this hat and this is one of the coolest and he gave it to me. He gave me this hat and this is one of the coolest hats I've ever seen in my, in my years of existence. Very upset. I don't have that. And it just says walleye. I mean, it's, it's awesome. I really enjoy this hat. So thank you drunk fella who I, um,

was it game worn? Did he wear it to the show? They just gave it on his head. I mean, it was like that. You guys do a Jersey swap swap. Did you get your hats? There was something going on where we didn't get to connect for a long time. And I, but whoever the fella is who gave me this hat, I do appreciate you. I think you might've had a few too many and there was some reason like that that we didn't, you know, spend more time together. But.

Did security kick him out? No, I don't think so. There was something and to be honest with you, I had one after the show, so I forget the exact story on it. I don't know if. Anyways. Memories, Miles, I'm getting old.

You're getting old, Charlie. I'm getting old. So. I just had a birthday, you just had a birthday. I'm getting old. I'm getting old. So I just had a birthday. You just had a birthday. You're you're getting older. Yeah. Yeah. I'm now 31 years old.

I remember those days miles. Shoot. I think I met you when I was 31 years old. Time flies. Time flies when you're getting old guys. So Charlie, tell me since you are my senior, quite a few years. And six years, I'm 37 miles. What's the best part about getting old? Best part about getting old, honestly, is.

I'm going to figure that out and report back next year. I don't know. I mean, you know, you kind of you understand that you need to give less something that rhymes with ducks. And aside for that, you know, here are the issues. Here are the issues. I asked you what the best part was. Well, I'm going to start by getting the plaque off the brain. These are the different things. Very, very Midwest

of you. Hey, I like that hat. Wow. You know, it doesn't fit quite right. You know, I got it with a coupon. No, I'll tell you what's the worst part about getting old. No, I'll tell you the best part. The best part is you realize the importance. The worst part for me is that he's going senile on me. He's losing his mind. You can know when you get older, you can whatever. And people deal with it. I learned that from my grandma, Sue.

She is she is age very gracefully. And what I realize is the older you get, the less you need to care. That is a benefit. Now, what you should care about a little bit, I'm finding, is stretching, because I am stretching every day. It is a daily thing for me is to just get it out, because I was not a stretcher growing up. And that starts to take its toll on you. Well, not smart.

Be a stretcher today so you don't end up on a stretcher later in life Wow put that on a t-shirt My gosh, yeah, no, that's a big thing and then uh, oh I will say getting older You start to appreciate things more little things sometimes big things, the thing I'm talking about is birds and they are beautiful. How many episodes you can restart the counter episode since Charlie's talked about? I feel like I haven't talked about birds in a minute. Go ahead. I'm letting you talk. I just you really understand the beauty of the bird and the bird lives in the moment. The bird doesn't, you know, worry about the future.

The future takes care of itself. And I think the bird understands that worrying is futile. And I think that's what we need to learn. I can learn some from the bird. Yeah. And also, I've been I've been working more. I've been trying to take some more time to relax and enjoy the finer things in life, like working on my recurve bow shot. Nice. working more, I've been trying to take some more time to relax and enjoy the finer things in life, like working on my recurve bow shot.

Nice. Which has improved marginally. I need more. Would your neighbor's sighting say the same? How did you know I was shooting in the backyard? Because you told me that. I think you talked about it on the podcast before. Here's what I do, I put a target in the garage,

and I'm self-conscious cause I want the neighbors. I don't know how they feel about it. And I don't want them like thinking that I'm being not safe, but the gas tank is far enough away from the arrows. So I just put the target in the corner of the garage, mark out just 10 paces. I'm just trying to fill paper plate at 10 paces. That's it.

So I am a scotch out of the garage at this point on the diagonal shot. Also smart to do it in the garage so your neighbors can't see your spray pattern. Yeah, it is true. They're like, how good is this guy really? Bad news is downside. I do have a few holes in the garage. Yeah. But you know what?

You really what happens is you get a couple holes in there and then you realize plywood, just put that over, drill it to the wall. There's reinforced sister. The wall. I knew there was a reason you kept that piece of wood in your garage. Hey, there's there's never a good reason to throw away a piece of wood. I would folks always remember that. That's also what you've learned in your old age. Now, something that I like about getting older, Charlie, is that you kind of

just being older just gives you a built in excuse for lots of things. Yeah. Like what? And then you pile on a pregnant wife and then you pile on later that you got a kid over to my parents. I'll also be like, you know, and tired, you know, we're getting old, she's pregnant. We got to get home to bed. That's true. There's no more time for the long Midwest goodbye. If you want to get out of it, you got an excuse. I feel like you have you got a window in that.

But then people start comparing. They start comparing themselves. Oh, yeah. Well, I got two kids. How do you think I'm feeling? True. You know, and that's how, you think that's gonna work, Myles, I have another story for you. Okay, well I gotta find another approach then. Yeah.

Maybe we'll find it in this podcast. Maybe we will, Myles, let's give it a go. Should we take some callers? Let's do it. Hey, welcome to the Bellied Up Podcast. Who are we chit-chat with today? Chit-chatting, chit-chatting. My name is Joe.

What, oh sorry, Joe? Yeah, Joe. Hey Joe, how you doing? Joe, what's going on? The easiest name in the language. Well, I'm gonna tell Tonya said that. I don't know, I think that I knew a guy named H growing up and I asked him how he spelt his name.

He said two down and one across. So I don't know, Joe. That might be a little know, Joe, that might be a little easier than Joe, but that guy, a drug dealer, probably. At least you're not the customers that talk to that call me job or Joe or Josephine or job. I'm like, okay. Okay. How do you fit these names? Okay. You're running a call center, Joe, Joe, what's going on? All right. So I got, I got to ask, how is it that everybody from Wisconsin that any of us ever talked to is always the nicest person, no matter how bad they get treated. Cause I had a person from Wisconsin. I think they, we

had to reschedule their delivery like nine or 10 times. It took like six to eight months. Every time I called them, it was all, don't you know? It's whatever. I'll go to the Culver's. Okay. So you work at a company and you're in charge of calling customers that are probably unhappy because a shipment didn't come on time. Yeah. Give us a few specific and some other stuff. What's the company and how long you've been working there? Give us a specific. So let's hear a few things. Oh God, I've been there eight years. Eight years and what do you guys ship? What are you doing? So send it out.

It's basically everything. I mainly do business to business stuff. So we'll sell stuff. Like a big example is that we work with this nonprofit for kids that have disabilities, mental disabilities, they're homeless, things like that. They're given a stipend or their state government will give them a certain amount of money each year and they can spend that money for their schooling. they can buy a laptop. They could buy earbuds. They could buy stuff that works with their disability. Like we have like specialized desk for like

certain disabilities, things like that. I would mainly do that now. Okay. Okay. Well, we're going to ask you if this is how it goes. Charlie and I are going to role play here. Charlie's going to be the the. Oh, no, not that word. What you don't like role playing. Yeah, tough relationship. What's going on, Joe? In a lot of call centers, we we we roll our eyes when we hear that word. Why do you roll your eyes at role playing?

There's nothing more fun than role play. Did you not play house as a kid, Joe? Because we always have like a 7 a.m. meeting and we always know when all the managers are always like, Oh, let's, let's role play. And they want to do it till like eight, nine o'clock in the morning. They want to roll play for two hours. Well, we're not going to roll play for two hours. We're going to roll play for two minutes, Charlie. Yeah, just two minutes. Joe, you don't have to role play. You get to you get to listen. You tell us this is how it goes. You critique us, Joe. Ring ring. All right.

Yeah. Hello. Hello, sir. I am Joe from the call center from the government program. Yeah, Joe. Hey, how are you? Where are you located? Oh, I'm over here in Dell Rapids, South Dakota. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Yeah. What's the weather like in Dell? You know, I'd like it to be a little warmer. You know, I tell you what, we've been waiting for summer to come for a while. I got parents to catch out there.

Why do we live here? I know. Right. Why do I live? What are the air hurts my face? Tell you what. Yeah. Well, anyways, your shipments not common, man. Oh, that's OK. Hey, listen, if you ever find yourself over in Fond du Lac, I tell you what, I got a good I got a boat sitting on the lake there right now.

Now I'm waiting for the weather to get better, but as soon as it do, I'm hitting the third reef. We're going for perch. All right. So if you are so good, if you who the hell was that? Oh, is there another fire on this one? We're in a we're in a cube farm right now. We all got headsets. I was talking to another guy.

Tell my says, I H H is the guy across the way here. H is a good guy. So would you like me to reorder it for you? Or that age? Anyways, yeah, reorder that sucker. That would be good. Yeah. Now, would you like me to send it to the same address or address? Yeah, no, same one on

the deal should be fine. I, you know, it should be, well, you know, no, whatever's easiest for you would be fine. Okay. I don't want to inconvenience you. How does that Joe, is that usually how it goes? Hey, you were kind of close. You forget the part where they demand the manager and they went on to you. And then the fact that you got to tell them, Oh yeah, there's, there's, it's just me. There's, there's nobody else. Now. Sorry about that. Okay. Joe got a question for you, dude. When you sit, when you say there's no manager, is that bullshit? No. So what first, specifically for us, there's some companies that you can and you really should have to.

But for our company, you can. What we would do is we would have someone pretend to be the manager, call you back. You do that? I love that. I knew that happened. I knew that you guys are like pitchers in a baseball game. You know, like, like it, you're out there doing it.

You're doing inning after inning, after inning. At some point the man, the manager literally call comes up to you and says, all right, we got to call someone else in. And then you get like Dan over there in the bullpen. He's got the smelling salts on, you know, he's about to talk to Denise. And he comes out of his bullpen, like eastbound and down. They open up the gate and he's standing there. Yeah, just just Ray Roll.

Like, hey, Denise, how are you? Now, that's a real trick right there. How do you get the most, Joe, I know you hate role playing. Let's role play real quick the most pissed off customer you can have and how you deal with the manager situation. Can we try that? Sure, I'm just trying to think what was the most angry one for the funniest reason for this call.

Oh yeah, good call. Yeah, if you have a prompt, I'm all about it. All right, you want me to play the manager or do you want me to play the person? I want you to do your job. I'm playing the customer. I will do you. Just tell me why I'm calling Joe and we'll go from there.

All righty. Ring ring, thank you for calling company X. My name is Joe. My I can I help today? Hold on. Maybe a little condescending of a voice, Joe. Oh, Miles has given you stuff off the top miles. We're role playing right now.

Can you save your notes to the end? Sorry, go ahead. Sorry, Joe. From the top, Joe. Start from the top. Bring bring. My name is Joe. Oh, thank you for calling company X. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry, Joe. From the start from the top. Bring my name is Joe. Oh, thank you for calling Company X. My name is Joe. How can I help you? Hey, how are you, Joe? We got a deal going, my guy.

First of all, you having a good day? I'm sorry. I'm doing pretty good. You're doing pretty good. All right. I'm not, Joe. I got to tell good. All right. I'm not Joe. I got to tell you, uh, I got a deal sent to my, uh, place or I was supposed to have a deal sent to my place today. It did not come. This is like the fourth week in a row, Joe.

I mean, I'm usually a pretty understanding guy, but I'm at my witch titty right now. And I, oh no. Yeah, definitely sir. I understand. I'm at my witch titty right now. And I... Oh no. Yeah, definitely sir. I understand. If it makes you feel any better, this is nowhere near as bad as other callers. Yeah, it doesn't Joe.

I hate to break it to ya. I am getting my ass chewed on the other end of this. So I am not just calling you because it's an inconvenience to me. This is an inconvenience to my whole company. They are chewing my ass like a drug dog and I got a bag of the snowy blowy on me, all right? So I'm trying to figure out a way

that you can help me like today. So how the hell can I get the package to me today? All right, let me go ahead and take a look at my system. I'm gonna put you on a brief. Joe, don't you fuck me like this. You put me on a brief. Joe, don't you fucking like this? I'll be right. Put me on a hold. Joe, do not put me on hold.

At least there's not a hold me. It was a god damn do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do's scored. Do do do. All right, sir. I'm back. Looks like it was actually delivered today. Um, and there's a picture. Let me bring up this chuck for you real Chuck. What? The package just showed up. Oh, thank God. All right. Wait a sec. What? Not the right package. They sent us the wrong package. You've got to be shooting it. Joe, Joe, we just got the package. My guy. It's the wrong package. Can I please talk to you? Joe, I understand this has nothing to do with you. You just work at this call center.

You know, I know this isn't about you personally. Let me just talk to the guy in charge. I gotta chew someone out. Because again, I'm getting chewed on my end here, okay? I know this has nothing to do with you, all right? Can I please talk to your manager? All right. Do you happen to know that SpongeBob mean where he yawning and goes? Now, I don't really feel like it.

No, Joe, are you kidding? I I have not watched SpongeBob in years. Are you joking my ass right now? It's a very good show. And I highly recommend Joe. I don't know. I don't know how you still have a job at this call center. Yeah, Joe, you start throwing out sponges. So Joe, you're just at a place in this call center where you give zero something that rhymes with ducks. I mean,

if it makes you feel better, I can transfer you over to a coworker where they're going to role play as a manager and tell you the same exact thing. Now, if you want, I can go ahead and start the return now. Since you got it through a nonprofit, what's going to happen is it's going to take about 20 days to arrive back to the back of the world. You would get me so heated. My guy refunded back to your account and then another five days. Frickin condescending. I just want to. I think I know what's going on.

What's that? We're talking to a man who's been beaten down by his job. Joe's been. That's right, Joe. Hurt people hurt people. Who hurts you, Joe? Let's talk about that. Ah, the whole US population over the past couple of years. That's brutal.

Now, Joe, it sounds a little political. Yeah, a little bit. Well, it's actually pretty bipartisan. Whole population. Yes, fair. It liberals, conservatives and people in the middle that always yell and scream that it's the one thing everybody. Everyone has in common.

Okay, I got a confession to make to you, everyone has in common. Mm-hmm. Okay. I got a confession to make to you, Joe. I got a confession to make. I'm not proud of this. I'm not a priest, but okay. That's all right. We're at a bar. It works.

I have lost my shit at a couple people on this, and I always feel bad about it. There's just something about a voice on the other end of the phone. When the voice says, I don't really give a shit about you, you just feel like, all right, it's time to buckle up and take out all my other problems in life.

This is my opportunity. I just get to use this as the audio punching bag. And it's not right. I. And it's not right. And I think that's a good point, Charlie. I think that call centers need to start taking the approach that they cause what he's, what he's saying is the right stuff to say, but his tone is wrong. So just scrap all of that mentality. And you also bitch about your own life to the callers, they will then identify with how he's talking

and feel better about their stuff not getting done. Right. I think, I think it's true. Your package didn't show up. Well, my girlfriend didn't show up last night either. So I guess we're in the same boat. We can relate. And I think it is important that as people, we start relating with people because soon enough these robots are taking over No, I mean I was wondering how long it would take Yeah, the robots are starting to happen now. Yeah, it's happening now I mean what people got to realize is the exponential rise in technology Like we're gonna have flying people in like five years. I'm not even kidding about that

Like, we're going to have flying people in like five years. I'm not even kidding about that. You know, so people got to keep that on the dome. These jobs that we're all complaining about won't exist. Now, Charlie, I got one last thought to maybe end this call with our boy Joe here. Yeah, this is a change of subject from the end of the world. This has been a little bit like we have our own call center. Charlie, we do have our own call center right here at the bellied up.

I'd like to see a robot drink this much booze. What did we say when we called? Hi, my name is miles. Welcome to the bellied up company. How may I assist you is basically what we said to him. Then he spent the whole call complaining about something to us and we had to navigate that we, how how the turn tables. I know how the tables have turned tabled. And the nice thing is who's the manager between the two? Oh yes. Yes. Can I speak to your manager? Yeah. Yeah. One sec. Jared, who wants to talk to you?

Jared is our mannered manager. Jared. Yeah. Jump on here. Jared. How we doing? Good. I, I just, I just want to know how do, how do you feel about having these two individuals working for you, sir? I have never felt so disrespected in my life. I'm going to complain to corporate so I can get a $50 gift card. Okay. Tell him to get in line. Get in line. Looking into it. Tell him we'll send him two tickets. We'll send you two tickets. To hell.

To heck. Sir, I'm Jewish. I'm very offended by that. Who is your manager? Well, Joe, I think we are gonna send you... We're gonna get that package rerouted to your address. And thanks for calling in today, man. I hope that guy a little off your chest. So nice to complain about the people that call in by calling into our show. Joe, here's the real, the real ticket at the end of the deal. Enjoy the call center now.

Okay. Cause it's, it's going robotic, my guy. And one day you're going to look back and you're going to be very thankful those robots took over. All right. So we'll talk to you soon and do watch out for deer out there. All right. Have a good day. So all right, Mike, he didn't want advice, Charlie. He came to us because he did what only he knows. It's call that is pick up the phone and start dialing on his day off. Yeah, he's on the phone.

And it's the only way he knows how to get therapy is pick up the phone and start dialing. And I can respect that out of him. I can respect that, too. Now I don't feel like he likes us at all. Do you think he was mad at us? I don't know. I don't. I don't feel like he likes us at all. Do you think he was mad at us? I don't know. I don't I don't. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. We might have been projecting all of the mad. Also, he called in and asked why Midwest people are so nice. And then he proceeded to talk about how mean everyone is. Yeah. I mean, maybe that was a red herring. Do you think it went overboard on the robot thing in there? No, I, I've honestly thought that was pretty tame for you.

Yeah. I mean guys look, look into it. All right. Might be like none of us are really taking it seriously. They're coming for us to a theater near you. Not a theater. I mean, they might be like, we're going to take another call. Welcome to the bellied up podcast. Who are we talking to miles? How are we doing? This is Mitch from Nebraska. How are you guys doing today? We're doing great. I got Charlie here with me, Mitch. Why don't you belly up to the bar with us? Tell us what's on your mind. Great. Thanks for taking the call. Got to go back to work. So ice cream is going to have to do from now. Don't have a hangover miles, but just kind of a little lunch treat.

But yeah, thanks. Thanks fellas. So kind of in a predicament here. And I guess I need your advice on one thing and then maybe your opinion on one thing. And they kind of in a predicament here. And I guess I need your advice on one thing and then maybe your opinion on one thing. And they kind of go hand in hand. So. All right, Mitch, let's hear it. My guy without, without further ado, without further preamble, without further introduction. Yep. Let's get into it, Charlie. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. My guy. Yep. That's the old Midwest Midwest. Nice there. And me anyway. So question for you fellows. I am a teacher professor, college exercise, science miles. Hello. Exercise scientist on the line. I knew he sounded like he had great quads. Yeah.

Yeah. So my question for you guys, he's got to be the quad father, the quad father. Anyway, sorry. Continue. Oh yeah. I got to elevate the heels, you know? Um, anyways, so I talk with my students and I try to be very understanding and I use phrases like I know you're busy with sports, you know, is that okay like in class or does that work for you? And I kind of find myself in this situation where am I being too easy going or am I just being Midwest nice in class? Because you don't want to be the pushover, but you also want to work with students cause you've been there. So I answer emails in those

situations like, Hey, is that okay? You know, I don't want to inconvenience you, but also I need some advice on how to maybe not be so Midwest nights with my students. So they get their stuff done, especially towards the end of the year. Can you guys help me out? Would you like me to go to you go first miles? Well, I think this is maybe going to trigger Charlie quite a bit. So I want to preface that Charlie. I want you to grab my old fashioned, put your seatbelt on. I think that professors in all facets of education need to just get to the acceptance stage that Charlie is trying to get to with artificial intelligence and just tell them, Hey, I know you're busy. Just have Chad GBT, write your paper. And honestly, if you know

how to chat, GPT things, you're going to do fine further in life. So that's good enough for me. Submit that artificially intelligent paper and you guys have a good weekend. I'm going to think what people need to start doing. I'm going to just jump in here real quick. And I'm going to say that's the stupidest fricking thing you could suggest, Miles, because look at the trajectory. People getting dumber robots getting smarter. What are the robots going to do when they figure out they don't need us? Miles, do you think they're going to maybe invent?

They're just using our knowledge to invent something that, you know, could. I think here's what I think. I think the the robots are going to be a reflection of us. So think about all the things you type into a computer, whoever you are. Are those the best things, you know, about humanity or are they the worst things? Because whatever you type into a computer, that's what these robots are going to take. Is it is it the worst things or is it the truth, Charlie? Well, that question, that is a good question.

And it dials down to what is humanity, you know, because if we are the worst things that we type into a computer, well, my gosh, these robots are going to. And then we're going to be like, yeah, so I don't think anyways, I guys, I'm sorry. I think we got to keep working the brain, working the brain to get it. Cause here's the other thing I can say right now. The crap on chat GPT is not, I can tell it immediately when it's chat GPT. And that's a question for you, Mitch is, can you tell what a student has done it on chat? GPT? I don't do a lot of papers. We're not even on the, we're in the wrong. All right.

Anyways, anyways, you had to take me down that tangent. I know I'm sorry. You know, I go through the audience to share what I've the pain I've had behind the scenes with Charlie for the last three months and how worked up he gets anyways, Charlie, what he's really asking is how does a Midwestern or be a little less Midwest nice? Here's the thing. It is difficult, but when it comes to oh, okay less words less words Disappointment you got to remember your dad. Okay. Now when your dad was pissed, what did he do? He's like, ah, yes son of a bitch. What the hell is the matter with you?

But when he was really pissed to the point you felt like that anger offset what you did So you thought you were, you know, fair and square. But when your dad was really pissed, it was getting the house. Yeah. Yeah. Fewer words. They'll know they're in trouble. You gotta go for those in. You gotta take them. You gotta take your students back to childhood. Yes. Hey, hey teach. Yeah. Are you sure that you want our paper do? I got a lot of stuff going on and you just look them square in the eye and you go papers due on Thursday

and don't say anything else. They're going to get that paper done on Thursday. I can guarantee that it's more than once made me shovel a few more rocks. So maybe the old silent treatment with a little smoldering look is gonna be the way to go. Less words. Yeah, or you know what you can say? You know what you can say if they say they want

an extension on their homework or whatever the hell, you just say, that could be fine. Give them a little dot dot dot. Yeah. Yeah. And they say strategic silence. Yeah.

And then let them talk. The more you let them talk, the more I mean, I've learned in this podcast, the more I've let myself talk, the more I reveal my ignorance. You know, so the more you let them explain why they need an extension, just don't be so quick with a yes. Let them talk. The more they talk, they are going to say, well, their Midwest nice is going to take over yours. That is a very good point. Just don't, I know you're a professor, but don't say anything. Just stand up there and just do less. Cause they're going to panic. Yeah.

They're going to panic. They're going to be like, why isn't he teaching us a lesson? Yeah. Well, shit. What does that mean? Is that mean that we have a test coming? I don't know. I should probably study this book. Cause I'm, I'm scared of the unknown. And then before you know it, you got some students that are self-sufficient. Yeah, they are independent. Yeah, they're self-starters. They're not relying on the robot. So in reality, I think that probably teachers are doing a disservice by teaching anything they need to teach nothing.

And therefore, they will teach more than they ever have in their life. In in teaching nothing, you are teaching the art of guilt. And learning, the art of learning. And learning, because guilt pursues knowledge. I can't tell you all the things I've learned because I felt guilty. Now, another good approach would be to you're an exercise scientist,

so therefore it deals a lot with the body. Just start breaking some legs in that classroom. And then what's a better way to learn than by being thrown into the fire? All everyone's going to have to band together to mend this broken leg. Miles, they're not surgeons. They're not orthopedic surgeons, dude. They're exercise scientists. Just dislocate their shoulder. Exercise scientists puts dislocated shoulders back into place. Do they really? Yeah. Oh yeah. Athletic trainers are exercise scientists. They put those suckers right back in. All right. Dislocate this shoulder. Well,

I need a couple more guys. If anyone wants to help. No, don't volunteer. That was way too much. He volunteered way too fast. I got you an old fashion. I did think he was eyeing you down weirdly earlier. I don't know if you guys met in the past life that he's got some against you, Charlie, but he seemed pretty eager to dislocate your shoulder. I don't think an exercise scientist should be the primary shoulder disc. Okay. I'm just saying that they aren't, he is the professor is. So then they have to figure out what to do after that What so I have to rehab them and all that it's trial by fire Real quick before we let you go a was any of this helpful and B

What is the homework that they are not doing the most of or what is the thing they're not doing the most of? Yeah, no, I on it I of. Yeah, no. Um, I, on it, I actually, I tend to talk a little bit more than I probably should. And I say that in class, but I think the less talk is actual good advice that I probably could utilize and even just coming to class and not talking, maybe even taking it a step further and just not even coming to class. That's how it is. There we go. Now, now, see, look, they all talk about the robots learning from the robots.

This is humans learning from humans. We are gonna be unstoppable if we just keep doing that. If we just don't do anything. Yeah. Yeah, just put it, send out an email saying that there's a test on Friday and all the classes are canceled. They're going to learn pretty quick. They're probably going to retain it better than if you sat up there and flapped your gums. Thank you. You're out. Yeah. So, yeah, it's kind of like, you know, that's kind of like when it's kind of like when Midwest dads just take a three year old, throw them in the lake and tell them to learn how to swim.

Midwest dads just take a three year old, throw them in the lake and tell them to learn how to swim. And then what happens? I mean, first it's, but then after that, you gotta go through the, before you get to the, yeah, first test of the year is going to be low scores, but everything after that is on the way up. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you are, the babies in the water.

Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you are older, the fact that the baby's in the water. Yeah. Yeah. And ladies and gentlemen, this is another bellied up disclaimer. Do not throw your kids in the water and say you learned it here on the bellied up. Blame it on that YouTube video you saw once. Goodbye. So anyways. Yeah. Hey, I think this was a great conversation. Appreciate you calling in. Glad we could help. Yeah.

Yeah, I love your guys' content. Keep doing what you guys are doing and keep her moving. Thanks for taking the call. You keep her moving too. Keep doing you. All right. It's a fun way to finish the day. Well, we'll talk to you soon now.

All right, bye-bye now. Watch for deer. Well, Charlie, isn't that poetic? Artistic. Look at us, the students teaching the teacher. The students have become the masters. Yeah. What is above a professor? Middle management, middle management at a college. I don't know. Yeah. Dean, a, Dean, the Dean of the professors here by giving that sage advice. Dean to Dean's just a couple of deans up here on the on the old mic. Now, after this statement, Charlie, we're not going to

talk about AI and robots again. All right. Can we talk about birds as you were ranting about AI? I literally saw a guy on a hoverboard on the walking path. Just standing there. You know, the ones you just stand on and lean forward. It's got like a segue former bike mechanic. I hate that. And by the way, the new bikes they make these days with the fricking batteries. I'm like, you know, I mean, they're cool. But I will say this, the the battery powered shifting. Get get off your move your fingers on that. You know, if you're going to have an electric bike, have an electric. I don't want to plug my bike into a USB port. And now, you know, smoke an acoustic cigarette for God's sake.

All right. And anyways, should we take it? Let's do that. Let's do it. Folks. Hey, you know what's happening now? The the world is getting a little warmer in the northern hemisphere. Yeah, it's lake season. The sun is getting closer to the earth, right? That's why it's summer here,

which means you're going to the lake. We're tilted towards the sun now. Tilted toward the sun. Thank you for the scientific explanation. What better thing to bring on the lake when it's warm and that sun is closer than a little bit of tippy cow. Nice cold bottle of tippy cow sitting in the cooler. You just tip that sucker on back, tip it on back to a tippy cow. Nice cold bottle of tippy cow sitting in the cooler. You just tip that sucker on back,

tip it on back to a tippy cow. Cheers to you, keep her moving, and watch for swimming deer. Folks, it is May 16th, and Nicolet Law is not like other personal injury firms. You found that out when you bumped your head, Charlie. Yeah, they give you the full scope of what you can sue for. Yeah, they have local offices with people who know the local court system inside and out.

They know the guy who knows the guy who knows the guy. They're not some big national firm that doesn't understand your community, Charlie. They're here. They got boots on the ground, as I like to say. B-O-T-G They got boots on the ground, as I like to say. BOTG. BOTG. Boots on the ground. Okay, yeah. Boots on the ground. They care about helping you get your life back on track. And that's what life's really about. Just getting back on track.

We're going to go off the rails. Things aren't going to go as planned. But if you have people like Nikolai Law that helps you get back on track, those are the people you want in your corner, Charlie. So give them a call over at Nicolay Law. They'll help you out. They'll get you that bag. Welcome to the Belly to podcast. Who we talking to? Hi, my name is Jacob. Hey, Jacob, where the hell are you?

Sounds louder than hell out there. Yeah, sorry, I'm at work right now. I'm working down by Duluth, Minnesota. Oh, right by the North Shore there. Good for you. Are you are you over in the in the docks area? It sounds like some heavy machinery. Oh, no, no, we're working on the power lines, by the power lines there in North there, but, uh, kind of by Herman tell a little bit North there at Swig there.

Yeah, sure. Sure. Real good. No, right where that is. Well, belly on up to the bar. The hell's on your mind. Well, you know, I, um, I've been thinking a little while and, uh, I was thinking about maybe starting my own firewood business and

Think about seeing if you guys have any suggestions on how to get started Okay, so you're wondering you want to start a firewood business and you want some advice from us Wow Well, oh yeah, okay. Thanks for calling in with that Jacob I mean we're here we are the go- to fellas to talk to when it comes to the wood. Yeah, we know our way around some wood. Yeah. Next question is, is why firewood? Why? How did that how did that come to fruition? Why are you going to start a firewood business?

Well, you know, I, you know, working with trees and stuff like that, I'm an arborist. I work that I do after I got out of the military. You know, I grew up, you know, sitting in finer wood and stuff like that. And I've heard it's a pretty good business and making quite a bit of money. So I said, why the hell not? Well, so where are you going to find the wood? You got some, the first question is, is where does someone who's going to start a fire word firewood business get the wood? Well, so right now we get my grandparents, what about like 10 minutes away from where I live right now? They got a whole bunch of trees.

I got blown down last summer from the storm and stuff. So my cousin, I've been kind of cutting it up and splitting it and stuff like that. So that's where we're going to start. That's, that's exactly what I was going to suggest. Yeah, I was going to suggest starting with trees as well. Yeah. Yeah. Start with trees is, is it.

And more than that, Jacob, you want to do the secret to the success in the firewood business is the less work, the better. You know how intensive it is to knock down trees? I mean, geez Louise, that's a lot of think, but God just does it for you. So I think before you get into the firewood business, what you need to get into is the tree removal business. Cause now you got not only free supply,

you got people paying you to remove their supply. And now you're going to be cooking with guests. You got two businesses, two tax write-offs, two places you can hide, you know, your meals and say, oh, it's for the tree removal business. No, that's for the fire. What a company culture lunch at the bar, you know, exactly twice the write off. So you're going to start two businesses to pursue this firewood passion.

And, um, that's just the, that's just the tip of this, uh, advice iceberg. My guy miles taken from there. So what are you going to do if, uh, so I imagine with firewood, it sounds like you're a guy of the environment. You're not wanting necessarily to become a lumberjack who's cutting down live trees. You're looking for dead stuff to be able to cut up and sell. Is that accurate? Yep. Yep. Um, you know, I, I thought about, I kind of had on what Charlie was saying there, you know, I thought about doing the fight is like the whole tree service deal as well. But the wife, she was saying, she was like, you know, you have a, we're thinking about

insurance and stuff like that. You haven't given them like that. I was like, you know, that's a good we're thinking about insurance and stuff like that. You have the mindset. I was like, you know, that's a good question, but I don't wanna deal with that. Jacob, that's not a right away thing. Just if they have trees down, I'm not telling you to go cut the fricking trees down, Jacob. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if a tree has already fallen down,

tree already fall, you can go get in there. Cause then you got a chainsaw, you got a tree, it's hard to screw something up like that. I mean you could cut your foot off, just make sure you know I use a chainsaw. I assume you know how to use a chainsaw, yeah? Yeah, no, no, yeah? Oh yeah, I got the chainsaw.

Okay, and once it, Yeah, and when the trees are on the ground, chainsaw becomes a lot easier to use. The tough ones are when you're climbing the tree, you know, and got the trees are on the ground, chainsaw becomes a lot easier to use. The tough ones are when you're climbing the tree, you know, and got a dangling. But so don't start with the just if it's it, we got to get a good slogan. If it's Well, that brings me to my next point, Charlie. Great segue.

Yeah, we have the business model now. He now goes and removes trees that have fallen or are dead from people's properties. He's now got the supply. He's got to sling those, those stumps. He's got to start slinging stumps. You gotta be a stumps slinger. And so what he needs to do, he needs to market this business, Charlie. So what are some good viral ways for him to market his firewood business?

Hey, have you heard of Jacob's Ladder? How about Jacob's Wood? You got to try this wood. It's fire. OK. And use the fire emoji right there. Jacob's Wood is now we're cooking with gas. Lots of puns are always good. Yeah. If you can't handle the heat.

Oh, wait, no. Get out of the tree. It could be you could call it Jacob's Ladder. You could call your firewood business Jacob's Ladder and could be a ladder made out of firewood and it's burning and you're at the top. You know, yeah, I mean, that could be a fun visual. What you wanna get is a nice billboard campaign going and just get people at, oh, how about this? How about a billboard of just you on a ladder of firewood

going up to a billboard and it said, need wood, call Jacob, and then it's just a little thing of you and then fire going up the, the deal. And you're painting the billboard or just a little figurine of you painting the billboard. And then the, the, the firewood ladder is on fire. Isn't that, isn't that fun? Yeah. Yeah. I think you also could be, you could be a, uh, stick with me here, Charlie. Yeah, I'm sticking with you, you could be a stick with me here, Charlie. Yeah, I'm sticking with you, Miles.

You could be what I call in the biz a fire truck chaser. And you can get the yard signs they do during political season. Yeah. And when a house is burning down, you should just put a sign that they, they should have used Jacobs instead of their house. Oh, wow. Yeah. You know what miles that can't backfire on you at all. You're right. It's not going to backfire. It's going to bonfire. Oh yeah. And then you could, you know what? Here's what you're going to have to do. Jacob is you've got to decimate the supply of free firewood,

free firewood signs. Well, how would he get rid of all that firewood? That's not his supply, Charlie. So it lighted off. Oh, yeah. Light the competition off. Anytime you see someone advertising free firewood on the side of the road, you just go over there. You start a bonfire with that firewood right there.

You don't need that. Or you know what? I guess he could put it in his truck, but it'd be more fun to burn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know what? That's arson. We shouldn't advocate arson on this show. Yeah. So steal the. You don't have to steal it.

It's free wood, dude. You get more supply. The world is just working in your favor right now, Jacob. So much so much is going good for you. Now, you know, I would also consider sponsoring some of the local high school bonfires during homecoming week. That's true. You know, I would. Geez, Jacob, the hell is going on over there, huh? I would. She's jake up.

The hell is going on over there, huh? He's cutting some limbs off the tree right now. I apologize. This is getting too dang hectic out here. Well, hey, hey, I don't have time to do marketing. I'm too busy doing the work of cutting down trees. You know, he could do one of those. Yeah.

Oh, Jacob, I got an alternative business idea for you. Yeah. Go. You're right in Duluth. There's a lot of driftwood on the Great Lakes, sending up all the trees and stuff flowing from you walk around the shore that you're going to see. All this driftwood. You collect that wood, you put it in the deal, you have it dry and then you send out, this is an alternative business to, you could call it great wood.

You know, like great lakes, great wood. Really clever. I mean, it's fun. And it's gonna, when that wood dries, that wood has been, you know, weathered by the waves of Lake Superior and gone through rivers and stuff. It's gonna burn real good. People are going to be like, wow, that were wood really burns. And you're going to be, they're going to be like, yeah, it's great wood. And they're going to be like, I got

a great wood coming, just looking at this fire. And they'll be like, what do you mean? I was also going to say it's easy. He could just sell it to all of the females that like to decorate their home. Driftwood's a pretty popular decoration in houses. Okay. Now I like that miles, but I'll tell you this, Jacob, as a guy who's worked with some driftwood in the past, you got to bleach that driftwood. You got to, you got to sink it and, and bleach it. Cause that lot of termites in it, a lot of bugs and critters. And if they get into your house, it's going to be it's going to be a short lived, not a lot of great word of mouth for great wood.

I just thought of the best business idea for you. You're going to love it. Oh, this is the end of all of our advice. All right. All right. I can't wait to hear. You guys have heard of wine nights, canvas and wine, where you go and have a bottle of wine and you draw a picture together, right? I've done that. You pay them for you to do all the work of drawing the picture, correct? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You don't even need to chop wood with this idea. What you do is you build a bonfire experience. Millennials are

going to go bananas for that. Millennials love experiences. You're going to take a, you're going to take a hunk of wood. You're going to slap it down. They're going to pay you a hundred bucks and you're going to teach them how to chop that wood. You're going to teach them how to build a TP log cabin bonfire. You're then going to teach them how to chop that wood. You're going to teach them how to build a T.P. log cabin bonfire. You're then going to teach them how to start a fire. Then they're going to pay a little extra, maybe 15, 20 bucks extra to get the s'mores package. And they're going to have an experience from stump to s'more.

Stump to s'more. Stump to smore. It's like farm to table. My God, this is don't give it to Jacob. This should be our idea. The idea. Oh, my God. He's doing. Yeah. So what did you say?

Yeah. What did you say? We can't hear you. Oh, sorry. It's a little windy over here. Yeah, it's a little windy over here. Yeah, it is a little windy over there. Yeah. Also heavy machinery. Geez. What did you say? You got that idea written down?

Yeah. Yeah. Stump to smore. Stump to smore is awesome. You're going to get all these fricking because there are a lot of people, unfortunately, that don't know how to make a fire. I mean, and you know, so I think you teaching them would be a good thing. The more people that know how to make a fire, the better, although with all the wildfires going.

It would be in a controlled environment. Yeah, make sure they know, yeah, teach them right. Teach them when to not make a fire, you know, high winds, dry things. And you don't even have to spend any money on furniture for them to sit on because they just sit on stumps. Sit on the stumps. Exactly. This is like, Oh, you thought that was your chair. Now this is your experience. It's all you need is a field. Yeah. And if our gravel pit. Yeah, it's perfect. It's perfect. And the worse it is, the more inconvenient it is. You just say this is an authentic fire making experience.

This is the way our ancestors did it back in the caves. Yeah. Any complaints they have to say, yeah, we want the most authentic experience. And we like to hear that, honey. We are having an authentic experience. You don't even got to do maintenance on like your axis. You just say like, just start the session. They have to learn how to sharpen an axe. Oh, it's just like you have free labor.

Oh, I mean, yeah. What I just feel like they're going to screw up some axes. Who cares? They're paying a hundred bucks to chop. That's true. They're buying the axis. And then when they screw up sharpening it, you can just sharpen it. If you like it, you add on 50 bucks and they can take their acts home. Yeah, that's true. And then they pay 150 bucks for a broken act 170 with the s'mores. There you go. S'mores are 20 bucks. Oh yeah. Miles we see gourmet chocolate. Charlie Jacob. Do you want to get into business with us on

this charge? 30 bucks if you let him use Reese's is the chocolate. Oh wow. All right. Well, you know what? We'll send you a letter of intent on this and we'll move forward. Okay. All right. Well Jacob, it was. Oh, I got one more thing. If you guys got the time or no. Yeah, we got the time. Yeah. So I was actually thinking about a buy seller trade as well. Yeah, what do you want to buy? Blog splitter? Yeah, but I'm looking to buy any kind of vintage, ham, bush light, linies, or grain belt beer signs for my garage here.

Yeah, those hams ones are very hard to come by. I'll tell you, those are nice too. The ones, I mean, you look at technology. Whoever designed those early ham signs, had they kept developing? No, those are the people who put us on the moon. Oh yeah. Yeah, they left hams and went to NASA. Is that how it

works? Yeah. I'd had to have geniuses, man. I could watch those all day. That's always hordes the good, you know, it's a good engineers. Yeah. Yeah. So what was the other thing? Well, he's looking for just beer signs. Oh yeah. What's your budget? Oh, I was thinking probably between, you know, a 50 bucks to 150 bucks in my, I would say you're going to have to sell some more firewood. My guy, the hipsters are onto the beer signs and that is shot the beer sign market into the fricking stratosphere to gosh dang shame. I tell you that now. Would you trade anything for him? Yeah. What can you bring to the table? Ooh, well, let's see here.

I don't know if I got anything to trade, but I am looking to sell a vehicle as well. Okay. The trifecta. Here we go. What kind of a vehicle do we have? Okay. The trifecta. Here we go. What kind of a vehicle do we have? Well, let's see. Uh, 20, 10 Dodge Ram Laramie. Ooh. All right. I'll ask the bar. Does anyone want 20, 10 Dodge Ram Laramie? Yeah. No, no takers. How much would you do it? If it it was a bunch of firewood? There we go, yeah, I would we're thinking about son for between around 11 12,000 11 12,000 willing to negotiate

They're laughing my guy. You're gonna have to go way down on that. Yeah. Yeah, how many miles? Oh have to go way down on that. Yeah. Yeah. How many miles? Oh, it's got a hundred and eighty six thousand, I think. Hundred eighty six thousand miles. Yeah. For twelve grand. Yeah. Yeah. We're willing to negotiate. Willing to negotiate. Well, if you have a schlitz club. It's OBO, or best offer as well. 500 bucks? Five beer signs. We got five beer signs for it.

Right in this bar, five beer signs for you that truck. How bad you want them beer signs? Cool, I don't know. What kind of beer signs are we talking about? I don't know, I think he works for a distributor. He's got that look on his face. So he's probably got a whole graveyard of them. And someone just offered you 1200 cash.

1200 cash? Well, we're, uh, Hey. Where you guys drinking at today? We're drinking down at the Newport, Milwaukee Bayview neighborhood. So if you want to head down from Duluth now, you know, you get here in probably five and a half hours, six hours, six hours.

If you stop for most of these guys are still going to be here five or six hours. Yeah, you got some professionals sitting here now. He's got the shirt on that says it's beer 30. Yeah, you're going to write on time. He's going to be wearing that when you get here. Right. And you're going to have to drop that truck off at his house, because he might need a ride on top of it. So, 1200 plus.

Uber. Plus, well, yeah. So, anyways, we're working it for you here. We'll call you up if we find a better deal, but so far it's a tough bar here at the Newport buying that. He's got 1200 cash. Showed us the wad. He's got it.

Yeah. And, uh, so you want 1200 cash. You drive down to Milwaukee now. We'll take care of you. Otherwise, uh, we'll keep our ears open. Yeah. we'll keep our ears open. All right. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, Jacob. Good luck with the wood. My guy. I appreciate it, Bella. All right. Well, she

that was the loudest frigging call I've ever. It just doesn't get more Midwest than a chainsaw. Just burn in the background. Sound like it like he was at an Indy car race, you know, yeah I Show honestly miles to s'mores. I gotta hand it to you. I Don't often hand it to you. But today I'm handing it to ya Stumps to s'mores is a good business

Yeah, we got the bar approves too. I mean to Stump's to S'mores is a good business. Yeah, the bar approves too. I mean, that's money right there. That's money in your pocket. You know, I do feel like there are certain things in life that people just don't know how to do and they should. Like changing a tire is one of them. You know, making a fire, driving stick shift. Although no one knows how to drive sticks anymore.

But, no one really needs to. But there are a few things like that, you know. Turning the circuit breaker off so you don't electrocute yourself when you're trying to fix the dishwasher. A few things like that, but I feel like stumps to s'mores really satisfy. So, I applaud you for that idea, Miles.

You can get in on this deal. I'll cut you in. I'm a oh, I know I'm already 50. Anything that's said on this podcast, I own 50 percent. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Well, guys, that's another episode of Bellied Up Podcast. Charlie. Yeah, good one. It was a great one, Miles. Yeah, we'll see you guys at the next bar around the corner. All right. Watch for deer.