Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Nicole Learns that the Internet is Undefeated

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

Friends! This week, Nicole loves that Dyson has gotten into headphones. Sasheer loves a helpful product review post but is confused when the comment section is brutal. Nicole loves when the internet r...oasts people and is now into accounts of people who make things from scratch. Sasheer was surprised when Nicole told her about a woman who doubled down on saying the N-word. Nicole and Sasheer discuss what they did to impress a crush from school. Nicole is delighted by watching the Sex and the City reboot, Just Like That. Sasheer is re-watching Sex and the City and she’s a mix of Miranda and Charlotte. Nicole is definitely a Samantha. They both get into the reality tv shows they’re watching and answer your friendship questions about how to deal with a friend with a valid distrust within the group and recommendations on how not to spiral after a date. This was recorded on June 14th, 2024. No BuzzFeed quiz this week.   Email or call Nicole & Sasheer with your friendship questions at:424-645-7003nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link https://siriusxm.com/friends and code FRIENDS.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you hit it? I hit it. We're recording? I'm recording. Hello! Hello! What a high-tech vacuum you have behind you. I guess.
Starting point is 00:00:24 What? It's not high- it looks like r2d2 and i know that because i watched star wars yeah no it's just a vacuum uh it's a shark vacuum it's a shark yeah can i can i tell you something late last night I was in bed. Yeah. Got in bed, put on my jammies, pulled my covers up, snuggled down, snuggled in, kiss Clyde on the forehead. And I said, I love you. Then I opened my phone up for one last scroll and there was a lady getting on a plane. And she was like, I don't really like this configuration. She was talking about the plane.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Then she was like, but you know what I do love? My Dyson earphones. And I love that Dyson has gotten into headphone production. And I was like, whoa, this lady is doing a Dyson commercial. And I thought she was talking about plane configurations. They trick you with those natural commercials. They really did. And I was like, I didn't even know Dyson made earphones.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And then everyone in the comments said, looks like they made those headphones with old parts of vacuums. And that made me laugh. The comments of things are so funny. air into your face or maybe away from your face or something it's supposed to be some sort of like fan for your face to like i guess covid related like keep germs away from your face i was like whoa so cool and then i think i sent you or so i sent somebody and uh the comments i read the comments after and it was like just roasting this couple that was like traveling with these masks and they're like they had all these videos of them in different countries like still got our masks and it's and i breathe clearer and it's so great and everyone's like fuck you guys you look like idiots i hate this if this is the future i don't want to be here i was like oh my god i thought it was actually pretty handy one of my favorite genres of the internet is someone sharing something they found helpful or something they find relaxing or they enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And the comments are like, you stupid motherfuckers. And it's just like, whoa, oh my God. There's this woman that you sent me. She has short hair and makes videos right outside her white Jeep. And she's like, I'm looking for a girl who stays up late at night, who can't wake up in the morning without her coffee. Who's just looking for her daddy because she didn't she didn't know who he was growing up. But she's looking to reconnect. I'm looking for and all the comments are like, we have to find her.
Starting point is 00:03:02 This girl is this a parody account. Why is she always looking for somebody? And I am dying. I love her. It's really funny. I hop on her page almost every day to be like, who's she looking for today? She keeps getting served to me. She is in my for you account, which I guess it is for me because I keep clicking on it every time i see it because i'm like what crazy shit is she saying today
Starting point is 00:03:28 it's funny because she's not actually doing anything crazy she's just like something about the energy is strange like she looks like justin bieber when he was 15 years old yes but like he's definitely a woman an old like an older woman. Yeah. And like, it's just funny. It's just really funny. It's so funny. And she lives in Florida, I believe. And I believe she lives in Florida because she only films in front of her Jeep.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Or her pool. Her pool, which is enclosed. And that's a very Florida thing. And I love it. Hey, y'all. you know what you need you need when that person texts you that they're not free anymore tonight you text them back hey my night just opened up you send it right to them and go oops wrong number i i she I'm, I, this is content for me. It's like kind of inspirational, but also like a little bad advice. Like terrible advice.
Starting point is 00:04:31 When someone cancels on you, don't send my night just opened up. Oops. They know what you're doing. They know that you're trying to make them feel some type of way. It's pretty funny. We can't be playing. And the comments are always like wow um i saw one that literally said this made me want to put my dog down oh no
Starting point is 00:04:51 oh or just like thanks i hate it hate from the homeless community it's so funny um i i guess i'm in like my blonde short lady era because i also love that lady who sings uh she is lip-syncing to ride in a fast car and she the camera's so high up and you can see her little flip-flops i love her also i yeah i've so i was in an era where i liked these uh dar dar man yeah i loved dar man i watched them i watched uh people who are trying to do dar man um and now i've moved on from those and now there's this woman named nara nara something and she makes everything from scratch. And she talks like this and her husband's name is Lucky and they just had another kid. And she'll be like, my children were craving cookies. So I milled the flour.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I went to the chicken coop. I found the eggs. I kissed the chickens goodnight. And it's so soothing. And I did comment on one of her videos. I was like, ooh, drop me off a pint of that cinnamon ice cream. And she didn so soothing. And I did comment on one of her videos. I was like, ooh, drop me off a pint of that cinnamon ice cream. And she didn't respond. Because she's milling flour.
Starting point is 00:06:13 She doesn't respond to people. She has to go find eggs. I know. And then you sent me one where a lady took sugar cane, boiled it down to make sugar to make cookies for her husband and i was like this must take all day every day but what a beautiful way to live a life to be like i've never seen a job before i order sugarcane online i make my own sugar and my husband loves me and i make my own she made her own chocolate and like and then she cut into the video her like chopping up cacao beans um and i was like what like this is a different type of like amish like it's i i'm
Starting point is 00:06:53 obsessed yeah honestly when i saw the sugar cane i was like this is a joke like i thought it was a parody of these types of video but i was like oh she's actually using the sugar can yes creating her own sugar yes and people in the comments were like wow she didn't even mill her own flour that's crazy lazy and she'll respond to them she's like i'm sorry i know i should have done like it's so and i don't know if she's being genuine or not um god i like i spend too much time on instagram and i just i'm delighted by so many things did you see that lady who said the n-word while she was cooking and then doubled down and said yeah i said what i said i we've talked about this we were talking about on the phone i listen i don't like it i don't like when white people say it, but I am delighted by this woman. I was so,
Starting point is 00:07:45 I love when someone doubles down on something that everyone goes, Hey, maybe we don't do that. And she's like, whatever. And then she made this video where she was like, rules in the world were made by losers in high school. And we're letting losers from high school.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And I was like, Oh my God. The pretty girl from high school is still mad. Yeah. That there's losers. Like what? That's so weird. Such weirdo behavior.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But honestly, what a treat for me to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my goodness. And that's great. Undefeated. Truly.
Starting point is 00:08:22 What are you watching on Instagram these days? What are you watching on instagram these days no what are you getting into what are you getting into yeah definitely um that funny lesbian who may or may not be doing it on purpose or not looking for her girl um what else am i seeing uh oh all those videos where someone is like talking about something they did in the past to impress somebody online and this is that song is like i remember when i remember when i lost my mind and then they're like uh when i found out my crush loved uh anime and then it's like a picture of them in middle school with like a black girl with like straightened bangs and like black liner
Starting point is 00:09:10 and being like anime rocks my favorite one was it was a black girl who was like I remember when my crush posted they were into Japanese culture so she went to some sort of Japanese thing where there's Japanese people
Starting point is 00:09:26 and she painted her face white. And I was like, oh Lord. And some of the comments are like, so I guess I've never liked a man before because y'all are doing a lot. I was trying to remember, I was like, what did I ever do to be like, oh yeah, I like this.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Hmm. Yeah, I don't know if I did. I remember learning a little bit more about baseball because this guy was like, oh, yeah, I love Dodgers games. And I was like, yeah, the Dodgers. I mean, they're having a pretty decent season. They did. And then he just like stared at me and I was like, yeah, the Dodgers. I mean, they're having a pretty decent season. They did da, da, da, da, da. And then he just like stared at me and I was like, oh my God. He knows that I'm a fraud.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He knows that I just Googled a quick Google about the Dodgers. How do I? I was like, I like your Dodgers jacket. What if I wore it tonight? And he's like, you want to wear my clothes? I'm like, I don't know. Do you want to get to second base the yeah around third do you want to slide into the bases with me and he's like what are you talking about and i'm like i don't know i
Starting point is 00:10:34 don't know baseball oh it's a no hitter have you done anything wild for uh a person i've in college uh there was a guy i had a crush on my friends were like he was in my math class and my friends were like you should pretend to not know math well i'm like i don't want to do that that's crazy but then i was like i'll just say my computer's not working which was so stupid you had computers in school yeah like laptop. Everyone's school experience is all, they're all different than mine. Every single person had a different school experience than me. We didn't have laptops in school.
Starting point is 00:11:13 You didn't own a laptop? No. It's not like my school provided a laptop. It was my laptop. You grew up more affluent than I. I did not have a laptop until college i had a that's what i said i had oh my god i thought you said high school oh no whoa i'm sorry oh my god oh lord i was like i guess yeah i did have some money but i was like you didn't have a lord
Starting point is 00:11:40 i'm so sorry i did by that point i did have a laptop wow oh lord i'm oh oh lord I'm so sorry. I did. By that point, I did have a laptop. Wow. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. I'm so sorry. I thought we were talking about the high school. Not the high school, no. No, in high school, I talked to nobody. That's so funny. Did you have semesters in high school?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yes. Did you? I think we called them marking periods. Hmm. And we had four marking periods. And we have four marking periods. And I was talking to a friend and they were like, yeah, by the time I was in senior year, I had done all my credits.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So I only had to take three classes. So I got out of school early and I was like, what? I didn't, I didn't, that's not, I didn't think that that wasn't an option for me. I had to go all day. It probably was an option for you, but you didn't, I didn't, that's not, I didn't think that that wasn't an option for me. I had to go all day. It probably was an option for you, but you didn't. You weren't,
Starting point is 00:12:33 you weren't flying through your classes like that. But I truly, I think everyone had to go all day. Like I think in New Jersey, they were like, you can't leave here early. I'll just take more classes. Hmm. I mean, I they were like, you can't leave here early. You'll just take more classes. I mean, I do remember, like, I think there was, like, a set amount of credits that you needed or, like, classes to take.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I guess if you just took all your classes or advanced or something, then. I don't remember a credit system. I remember you, like, passed your classes or you failed your classes. Then you'd have to, like, like, I think I got got a d in algebra so then i had to go to basic math yeah basic math was fun that was like bad kids where we didn't learn yeah i wasn't god i was in good basic math oh because you're a good student who didn't talk to nobody um you pretending not to know math or like having your computer not work that's very katie herring from mean girls yes where she pretended like she didn't know math to get uh what's his name
Starting point is 00:13:31 uh what was it aaron was it aaron yes aaron samuels aaron samuels yes oh my goodness the do i know to entice a person to love them yeah um yeah i i try to be on my best behavior in the beginning but i i really it's hard uh i'm just a cartoon yeah i guess i learned surfing for love and that was out of my comfort zone and i haven't done it since i was like i'll do it i'll try i'm cool i'm chill and then i did it and i was like this is not what i wanted to do why did i do this this is not good the ocean's trying to take me and i'm scared i don't want to do this yeah let's see i yeah i've watched some animes for for trying to like impress somebody. But then, you know, I was like not into it, but I was like, but you like it. Yeah. And I I found things I liked about it.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I watched this one called My Hero Academia. And there was this man I loved who would get big and small. And I loved when he got small and weak. And God, what was his name it was uh Kimmy it seems like you you've watched My Hero Academia I have not watched it I'm just familiar and it's not what I expected you to say and it was very funny to me oh it's just so specific but I can google My Hero Academia man who gets big and small yeah he's a blonde man he gets real big and then weak and small is it uh taishichiro toyamitsu maybe but uh what's the americanized version of his name i'll work on dead dead well i mean in uh sailor moon i can't remember her Japanese name, but I think it's Serena in the American version.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And honestly, I prefer the American version than the dubbed version of Sailor Moon, which is the most unpopular opinion. Wait, the American... Oh, I see. It's not just the Japanese version dubbed over. It's like the American... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:41 So for the American... So there's the sub-dubbed, and I think subbed is where there's subtitles and i believe dubbed is where they dub it to english but then they took it i can't remember what channel they took it and then changed everything completely luna's english and then you learned a lesson at the end of every episode and I loved them and people are like that's not how you're supposed to enjoy it they it's bastardized and I was like call me a little bastard I love them I'm a little bastard yes oh all might and I would call him Mr. Mighty he looks mad well that's because he's he's tiny oh and then
Starting point is 00:16:28 when he gets big he's like a hero it's a town full of heroes and uh it's a it's a cute show i like it i didn't get very far though um but i did tell my sister about it and she watched the whole thing and she was like did you finish it can we talk about it and i was like sorry i watched two episodes and she was like cool i thought this would be a fun thing for us to talk about and i was like sorry sis oh but she was doing the thing that she was doing the um aaron samuels thing for you she was like i want to connect with my sister i'll watch i'll watch this and i probably should but maybe i'll go back and watch uh not sabrina uh the sub version of sailor moon because she loves sailor moon that'd be nice and you like sailor moon so it's not like
Starting point is 00:17:13 you have to work hard or something to darian like a new thing his name darian well he's tuxedo mask but when he's not tuxedo mask call ser Serena Meatball Head, and that made me laugh because she has these little space buns. And boy, she's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, Meatball Head. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. The older I get, the more i'm like wow i am delighted in the simplest things like it doesn't take much yeah i was watching the sex in the city movie yesterday and boy oh boy, was I delighted. I don't even, I, okay. I, I, okay. Okay. You've heard a lot of thoughts
Starting point is 00:18:09 about Sex and the City from me lately because you're currently watching it. And I thought the first movie was like a fun cap to this beautiful series. And then they did the second movie and I was like, well, I'll definitely watch it. And then you're like, what? These characters are acting so different. And then in just like that is such a departure from the series it's a different
Starting point is 00:18:29 show and I love it I'll watch every episode it's fabulous and I cannot wait till you get to in just like that and I'm really hoping you get up to speed for season three um it's a lot it's a lot of how what season are you in i'm currently in season three okay the first iteration of sex and city kimmy do you mind looking up when then thank you the next season of and just like that comes out kimmy on the keys is back for another epi i have been flying through it. Well, they're short. They're short. They're really short episodes.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. But they're so good. They're so good. There's an episode where Carrie gets robbed and it makes me laugh so hard. Oh, I haven't gotten there yet. I think it's season four. God, it is such a good show. Yeah. Wait, who did you decide you were miranda i think a little
Starting point is 00:19:30 bit of miranda yeah and but a little charlotte too i feel like i can be a little bit like oh my god it's funny to me because people do think charlotte is like a puritanical one. She's pretty slutty. Yeah. I would say she rivals Samantha. Yes. Yeah. Every episode, Carrie's like, and Charlotte found her perfect man. And then it's a new guy.
Starting point is 00:19:56 She gets around. Which is outstanding. But then people are like, when someone's like, oh, just let him go down on you. And she's like, oh. Like, she's like so scandalized by things. I i'm like but you're having sex all the time i think she's just doing missionary i guess so oh and then when someone someone fell asleep on her and she freaked out she was like am i bad in bed samantha was like well honey what are you doing oh god i love sam jones i think sam is the best of all of them yeah she will stick up for any girl no matter what no questions asked she will come to the rescue like i and i think it's really interesting that people don't recognize that yeah she's like i mean she's
Starting point is 00:20:40 all her all her lines are jokes but she is the best friend of the group. I think she's the heart of the show. Mm-hmm. And I think I'm Samantha. I think you're Samantha, too. Thank you! Woo-woo-boo-boo! There's a fun episode later at the Soho house that makes me laugh so hard.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I just love the show um john milhiser and i i got this sex in the city game because it's what we watched during the pandemic um and i think i told you we played the game and they tell you when you play the game to play the soundtrack to the movie and we did that for a little bit but then i was like wouldn't it be funny if we just found a loop of the theme song and we were all like ha ha ha ha and then we found a two-hour loop of the theme song and i was like i wonder what your neighbors think because i scream when i enter their home i scream a funny joke that we have um and then sex in the city theme song plays for two hours while we scream some more. Like it's. I would call the police.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I'd be like, she's here again. Take her away. I don't know. They're being attacked. Something's happening. It's not right. What does the game entail? Is it a board game?
Starting point is 00:22:01 What's the game? It is slightly confusing. So you roll a dice and you answer questions. And then if you get the question right, you get a card. And then there's six cards that you have to get. And you have to get six different cards. So say you keep pulling the same card with like the shoes on it or something. then can if someone gets it wrong you can give them that card and take a correct card that you need um it is it is confusing but once you get into it it makes sense and it's fun okay all right how do you win you get six cards oh you get sick it's like the mr big card the shoe card the hamptons card it's all like
Starting point is 00:22:46 big quintessential things from the show um and then some of the questions oh and then some of the questions you have to act out with no words um which is very very hard um i think there's it's i don't know if it's divided by seasons because i think there's only like if you roll like oh there yes it's divided by seasons because there's six six numbers on a dice. So it's like one two three four five six and then it's I think season specific questions based on what you roll on the dice. And some of them are so hard and some of them are easy like what was eaten from the trash from a character. And I said that very vaguely so i didn't ruin something for you um and it's like what's in uh miranda's uh what's in her nightstand that magda moves um it's oh it's so fun and then it's really fun when you like you know the answer and
Starting point is 00:23:39 then uh and then we had to tell john that he had to lock it in because he would take too long and then ask questions and then lock it in. So, yeah, when you get in just like that, we can play with you. OK. And it'll be fresh on your mind. You can really watch the sex in the city. It's I feel like, OK, you were doing a bit, but but i was like you know how much i love this show do you it was yes we were texting on a group chain and and you were like oh my god i feel like i've been telling you to watch sex and city for 20 years and i was like have you and you're
Starting point is 00:24:16 like wait are you kidding and i was like no i don't know did you do you like the show just to fuck with you and you were so upset out i was like i don't even know if i said this but i was like the pursuit of sexiness is based on sex the web series we did is based on sex in the city i well that's like a podcast being based on friends and you don't know anything about friends i don't know anything about those people. But they were best friends, right? Six of them? Three boys, three girls? Crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Crazy. Crazy that it was so even. Yeah, that's normal. Three single men and three single women just having to be friends. And they live across the hall from each other. And from what I understand, there's a huge apartment on one side and then a very little one on the other side.
Starting point is 00:25:08 How many bedrooms are in the big one? Two. And then there's two on the other one? Yeah. But the living room is huge on the other one. But that one's so much smaller. I wonder why they did that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:25 To show like economic status or something? So when I lived in New York, I saw other apartments in the building I lived in and they were very similar in shape and size to mine. And the disparity between apartments on the same floor was wild to me. I think I've seen apartment buildings where they have different size apartments. But usually, yeah, on the same floor across the hall.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I don't know if that would happen. Like that much bigger? And does that mean on every floor there's a huge apartment on one side and then an itty-bitty one on the other side? And then on other floors, is there like a one-bedroom that cuts that apartment in half or something? It's wild if you really think about it. And I need my New Yorkers to rise up and let me know what they think. Rise up. Rise up and tell me what you think.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Well, any show that's supposed to be in New York, the apartments never actually represent what an apartment in New York looks like. Back to Differ, I think on Sex and the City, they do a very good job because Carrie's pre-war apartment is rent-controlled and nothing seems to be updated ever. And it's like a little grimy in the kitchen because she doesn't really go in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And the only thing that really gets updated is her bedroom because she spends a lot of time in her bedroom. And then she's got that closet that goes through to the kitchen. And I love that. But then she's also got her living. It's like two entrances to the kitchen. Listen, I think it's a good representation of an apartment on the Upper East Side. I also think Samantha's Hell's Kitchen apartment looks like a good representation of an apartment on the uh the upper east side um i also think uh samantha's hell's kitchen apartment looks like a good apartment and i think miranda's apartment when
Starting point is 00:27:10 she moves to the upper west side is a good representation and then i don't think you see charlotte's apartment till she gets married uh yeah and i think i've only seen her bedroom and i've only seen samantha's bedroom bedroom so far. Samantha moves into a different apartment. That's a little bit bigger, but it's definitely like the kitchen is in the living room ish. I think it's a studio actually. Um, I might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Um, but I do, I do think sex in the city is a good representation of New York apartments. And I love that you were like, it's crazy that Carrie spends so much money on clothes and shoes. And I was like, it's a rent controlled apartment in the 90s. Homegirl was paying probably $200 for the space.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Whoa. In the 90s. Think about it. All of her money could go to clothes and shoes. And she's getting stuff at like sample sales and she gets stuff half off. She's looking for deals. She knows what's going on. She wants to wear the designer stuff, but she knows that she's not in the place where she could stuff half off. She's looking for deals. She knows what's going on. She wants to wear the designer stuff,
Starting point is 00:28:06 but she knows that she's not in the place where she could pay full price. This is true. And here's my theory on why we never see Carrie's family. I think Carrie's family is no contact because she's a narcissist and that's the choice that they made. It is wild.
Starting point is 00:28:21 We don't even hear about her family. No. Also, did you know? I don't know if they're siblings. No, We don't even hear about her family. No. Also, did you know? Like, I don't know if they're siblings. No, you don't know. Did you know I had so many opinions on this show? No. Yeah, because you didn't watch it for 20 years!
Starting point is 00:28:39 20 years! Also, I finished Knuckles. Oh, wow. You really spread it out. out i did and i had a nice time i like sat down and i was like nicole you gotta get through it you really do want to know how it ends and you can watch it again if you need to and it's okay it's great carrie ew, I think is his name, who's in Liar Liar, another movie I don't think you've seen. He's great. He goes, the claw.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And it's really funny in Liar Liar. He's in Knuckles and he plays Adam Pally's dad and he's so funny in it. And also there's this fight scene with Channing,an uh channing not channing tatum stalker channing and can you imagine mixing those two up um and her stunt double is definitely a man in a wig and i don't think they cared that you could tell and that is so funny to me it's really funny and then pally has like some really great sequences in it and it's just so funny and then um i think the moral of it was like you can be the warrior of your own destiny as long as you believe in yourself and i really liked it i thought it was
Starting point is 00:29:58 gonna be like stop being so aggressive that was what i really thought it was gonna be but i think it's you have to aggressively go after what you want to be a champion of. Wow. That's beautiful. I like that lesson. Boy, I loved it. Let me in. Let me in the world. Yeah, get in that universe. Have you watched anything lately that you were like, yes, this is inspirational. I'm learning. I mean, I started Perfect Match recently. Wait, what's Perfect Match? It's a reality show on Netflix and they take reality stars from other Netflix reality shows and put them together in a house. And you're supposed to find your perfect match
Starting point is 00:30:47 which doesn't mean anything it's not like you are the one where you have to like uh put your hand on a screen and then the scientists or whoever see if your molecules match up to be the perfect match this is like you like somebody in the house and you think you guys are a good match so you stay together um but then they keep bringing in new people and you could switch up your couple or and then you do challenges together and then the the couple that wins can decide who comes into the house next or you could make someone go on a date and then leave the partner that they had. And ideally, by the end of it, everyone votes kind of survivor style on who they think the perfect match is. And then they went.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And then everyone has to vote for the like it has to be like a majority rules. Yeah. Like everyone in the house and then everyone who left the house, too. But there's no scientists involved. Nope. Just just your peers. Just the voting of your peers. house and then everyone who left the house too but there's no scientists involved nope just just your peers just the voting of your peers okay we started a show called the never have i met them or something oh yeah the never ever have met the never yeah the never have never really bad title it was a tough title to remember and we're having trouble now but the amount of
Starting point is 00:32:05 toe sucking on that show i could not have uh ever expected it oh the never never ever met um toe sucking toe rubbing so much toe action it was like people who have dated online for years who have never met each other finally get to meet each other in this house. And it's chaos immediately. There was a fight. A physical fight. A physical night. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And then I don't think I'm ruining anything. But this lady was like, I need to talk to you about something. And he's like, I figured you would. And she was like, as soon as we said that we were exclusive, you proposed to another woman online. And he was like, yeah, I didn't think we were going to work out. And she went, thank you. I needed to hear that. And I was like, there's no resolution.
Starting point is 00:32:59 There was no resolution. And how did you keep that? Because also, I think it happened like two years prior she's like you remember two years ago when you proposed to somebody when we said we were exclusive how did you move on from that you just didn't acknowledge it you just kept dating somehow i feel like people when you're online forgive a little bit more because it's like well i'm not there yeah i don't know i i don't know. I, I don't know, but it's,
Starting point is 00:33:26 but it was dramatic. I would love to finish it. It was very dramatic. And I was like, how are they going to like, I was like, how are they going to create like drama? Cause there's no games.
Starting point is 00:33:37 There's no goal. There's no like nothing. There's no winner. You can't get kicked out of the house unless you are violent. And somebody was, but like what happens, but, and yet they have found a way to be dramatic. winner you can't get kicked out of the house unless you are violent and somebody was but like what happens but and yet they have found a way to be dramatic every episode and very entertaining yeah we were saying we were like wait what is the goal at the end of the show
Starting point is 00:33:56 and i don't think the host has stated if there's a goal i don't think the host has stated uh really anything no it's just y'all live in a house together have at it and then there was an episode where one of the guys is like talking about his girl and she's like in a cloak i mean i guess it's just a blanket around her and she's like just listening real sad and he's like get out of here and i was like oh my god everyone is so poorly behaved. It is, I'm having a nice time. Yeah, it's really funny. Great TV. God, I love reality television.
Starting point is 00:34:31 It's so fun. I tried to get into The Traitors, which is like Mafia. Have you played Mafia? I'm sure someone forced me to in college, but I keep refusing to ever do it again. Okay, here's the thing. I think you gotta play it again well i had never played and i had a great time oh i had like i don't want to say the time of my life because i've been i've had more fun um but i like i know in my heart i have had more fun than this um but i had such a fun time playing
Starting point is 00:35:03 um my friend karen was the game master I don't know he was the narrator if you will the game maker he was Viola Davis in the Hunger Games which PS haven't finished but she's great in it but he was narrating and it was like so fun and I hadn't really played before but I knew that like you had to like lie to your friends to their face. And I was the mafia and I was just killing and nobody suspected a fucking thing. And I won. I killed everybody in town. You killed everyone?
Starting point is 00:35:37 Everyone. And somebody, I can't remember who it was. Maybe it was my friend Dory. He was like, I've never played where nobody guessed who the mafia was and i was like ah but then in the next round i was immediately murdered uh you played two rounds uh people will come for you and but also i started giggling uh at some point and then
Starting point is 00:35:58 everyone was like get her out okay okay that's funny and there's only one mafia person there's two mafia people um so everyone's in a circle closed eyes and then the narrator walks around taps two people you open your eyes you acknowledge who the mafia is and then there's like a doctor or a policeman or something i don't know but then when you close your eyes again the mafia gets to open their eyes again and then they get to kill someone and you just like you're like yeah i'm gonna kill that person and then i didn't realize that like if you're in a mixed group don't kill your friends first because people will deduce who's friendlier with friend like with people yeah and then they're like oh you killed them because you're friends with them
Starting point is 00:36:42 yeah um and i made that mistake and i but then my friend dory was like like he came out hard accusing and i was like why are you accusing so hard and he was like because that's what you do when you're not the murderer and i was like or you're trying to throw everybody's scent off i don't know i mean i've never played before but this feels and this feels so aggressive and everyone everyone believed me. And Dory was... Sneaky. It was... Honestly, Sashir, I think with like fun, silly friends,
Starting point is 00:37:15 I think you'll have a nice time. Yeah. Okay, I'll try it again. I'll give it a try. Okay. Okay. What did you do today, Nicole? Well, so Shira and I recorded and I really, really was trying to convince her to play Mafia with me.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I'm getting more acclimated to games. I can add Mafia to the roster. Okay, that makes me happy. I'm glad that you've come into game time. You don't like celebrity though no i don't think i have feelings for or against celebrity i love celebrity yeah one of my favorite times playing it i was in a nasty dirty little cabin in michigan and i was on a team with my friend evan and we were fucking crushing my other two friends and that's a good memory not the best time I've ever had I know I've had better times um but it was really fun
Starting point is 00:38:09 I can't wait to hear the best time you've ever had what is the best time I've ever had hmm I mean I know anytime I'm like on a boat in the middle of the ocean, like that's, I feel very at home and at peace. And sometimes I'll close my eyes and go, what if now is the time a dolphin jumps out of the water and goes, ah, come home. A queen. And then also, we don't know everything in the ocean and I love seahorses and I want a big seahorse
Starting point is 00:38:52 to like come rise to the top and be like, get on, let's go for a ride. I just really want a Lisa Frank coloring book to come alive and that can be my life for a little bit. I mean, why not yeah why not have you ever um dive dove dove dove into the water no but i the water is really cold uh here so i don't know
Starting point is 00:39:24 where i would learn how to do that I mean I've only snorkeled um I think I told you this in Hawaii I think I said on the podcast I was giggling because I was so excited about those fish and then that man was laughing at me um and then I think I need to buy my own snorkeling gear because last time I snorkeled, it just kept fogging up and it was tough to see the fish. Um, and then I didn't realize that the guy from the boat was throwing bread at them. And I was just going, Oh my, the fish love me. I was so, I thought the fish felt me. And then I like put my little head up and I was like, Oh, he's calling the fish. It's not me. Sometimes I really think I'm Ariel. I really think that the ocean is one with me
Starting point is 00:40:11 and that the animals love me. But you know what? Maybe if you had bad energy, they would have ignored the bread and not even come. Maybe it was a combination of the bread and you. This feels cozy over here. I feel safe.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Thank you. Because I'm not going to eat them or anything. I'm not going to snatch up a snack. No. You just want to observe. Hang out. These are your friends. They are my friends.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And I love zebrafish. And I saw Dory from Finding Nemo once when I was snorkeling. And I was like, Dory! No. I don't think I've ever seen a Nemo, but zebrafish, they're so cool. Cause they look like zebras, but they're fish. That is cool. should we help people yeah let's answer some questions on that note should i give someone
Starting point is 00:41:15 advice zebrafish are cool because they look like zebras but they're fish i, you clearly have a great perspective on things. Thank you. Do you want to start? Oh, hi, Nashir and Sikol. They switched up our names. That's crazy. Love, love, love this podcast. I look forward to every episode each week and I save my favorites to listen to them when I'm sad or on a flight. With that being said, I've been listening to my faves lately and I fly back out and I fly out back to the States from my stay in London where I was studying an MA in fashion journalism. By the way, if either of you need a stylist, let me know. It's always been hard for me to take, it's always been hard for me to make friends, but I made a couple of really good friends from the course. We shared our love of fashion and kept up with each other. Dog sat together, went out, talked about love lives, and sometimes made each other plus ones
Starting point is 00:42:10 to parties and events. You know, friend stuff. We, let's call her Ellie, haven't spoken in a couple of weeks and I've reached out a couple times and she hasn't responded, but I've been hanging out with our mutual friend from uni. Let's call the mutual friend Andrea. I reached out to Ellie again and she told me that she stopped chatting to people from the course because somebody leaked a post from her close friend's story to her manager with the intent to get her in serious trouble and framed Andrea for the leak. Whoa. Ellie didn't get in trouble and I told her that i'm sorry that happened to her
Starting point is 00:42:47 but i did not leak her story i'm very sure andrea didn't either and i understand her feelings of distrust it's a dilemma it's a dilemma because i understand her feelings to protect herself however we're friends and i wouldn't even think to do such a thing either ellie to either ellie or andrea especially with no motive i can somewhat understand why she would suspect i would do such a thing because i'm i'm the closest to her wait i can somewhat understand why she would suspect i would do such a thing because i'm the closest to her and andrea in our course but that's also the exact reason i wouldn't after i gave her my defense i told her i hope to see her before i leave she gave me a dry response i wish you luck and take care i'm hurt and would think i'm hurt she would think i would do such a thing and that she would dismiss me with
Starting point is 00:43:35 the rest of the course uh i'm aware that she never explicitly accused me however getting her sudden coldness and explaining the situation and dismissal it it feels as though she thinks I did it. How should I go about this situation? I'm thinking to talk to Andrea and maybe ask her to set up a hangout with the three of us to discuss it. Let me know your thoughts. Wow. I just watched Clue and this is really reminding me of Clue. It's a real whodunit.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah, whodunit. Was it in the hallway with a lampstick? What is, was it a lampstick? The candick i'm sorry the lampstick oh i said it and i was like that's not the word i hope nobody caught it and you sure did i was about to let it slide i was like wait a minute what's a lampstick what on earth is a lampstick and And I'm like, here's my new invention. Ooh, this is tough. I'm assuming that person is writing off the whole class because maybe she's paranoid and is like, is everyone talking behind my back?
Starting point is 00:44:36 Was it a plan? Are there more than one person involved? So she's like, fuck all of you, which does suck. But she's paranoid. She doesn't know who to trust yeah and i i do think i mean it does suck that this happened and that there is a sneaky sneak among you guys that's like the shadiest part there is somebody amongst you who's not nice
Starting point is 00:45:05 but also what was the story that was leaked to the manager i know what what scandalous thing was what was it was she like in azara when she worked at hm like what was it um but i think i do think maybe if you are trying to save this friendship, it would be good to get together, the three of you guys. But then also, if I'm suspicious of you guys, I'm coming suspicious. And you telling me you didn't do it is not going to change my mind. Yeah. Also, like, the take care, have a nice life message kind of feels like she don't want to meet up at all. Yeah, but she made her choice.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Maybe it's like send her flowers and be like, I'm really feeling for you in this situation and I understand that you feel betrayed. I do miss my friend and whatever choice you make, I support. I like that. Cool. I just thought of it. I support. I like that. Cool. I just thought of it. Yeah, I really like that.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah, because it's not like, you're not requiring anything from her. I think asking to hang is like, I think even though the intent is well, I think it's still, it's too much of an opportunity for her to be like, to have to make a choice, but just sending flowers and nice words is like,
Starting point is 00:46:28 here's some love. Like, I would love to see you, but like, I understand you're not feeling great about what happened and blah, blah, blah. And then she can like,
Starting point is 00:46:38 think about it and be like, well, actually maybe I like, I'm putting the energy in the wrong spot. Maybe I do want, you know, it's less putting the onus on her to make a decision right in the moment. Do you want to hang out? She can think about it later and be like,
Starting point is 00:46:55 actually, you're one of the good ones. I will hang out with you. Yeah. And then also maybe she needs space, you know, space from talking about it because it's like when you get together the only thing you can be is defensive because you're like i didn't do it and i'm trying to win you back over so yeah i think it's like if you send the flower send a note and you're like i'm sorry and then also acknowledge that you have empathy that she is going through this because it does suck
Starting point is 00:47:21 and i'm sure she feels so alone because she's like i don't know who to trust and then it's like yeah no presh but if you would like to talk soon i'm here and but take the time you need yeah and everyone loves flowers everyone loves flowers and when i'm like kind of pissed at somebody i can't hang out with them and have a good attitude like even if you do hang out with her one more time before you leave it might not be a great hang like it might be like a pretty cold like that might make you feel worse going home being like wow i tried and that now i now it's cemented that we really aren't friends but i think if you do the flower thing and you're like look i just tried and maybe she'll reconnect via the phone or Instagram or something later
Starting point is 00:48:09 when we're all back in our respective homes. Yeah, maybe that might feel better, but I think it's risky trying to force a hang before you leave because it might not be fun. Yeah, it's risky business starring Tom Cruise. And then, yeah, you don't want that to be your last hang. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:30 A bad one. Leave a bad taste in your mouth. Soft. Should we do one more? Let's get another one, please. Hi, guys. I have a query. It's dating relationship advice, I guess.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I've been going out on dates more recently, trying to, you know, have a fun life. But every time I get home after a date, I can't even enjoy the fact that I just went on the date because I'm just thinking about, well, if they don't call me, it's because they don't think I'm pretty or they don't like me. And then that means I'm not a lovable person. And then I get so into this spiral of I'm not good enough to date someone, even if they probably did really enjoy it. And I'm just not happy. I don't know what to do about it. I wish I could just go on dates and then come home and be like, that was a great date, but I just can't do it. And do you guys have any advice, I guess, for post-date relaxing
Starting point is 00:49:37 and how to get out of negative thought spirals surrounding this type of thing? Anyway, love you guys. Bye. But you are lovable. That's the thing that you've made up. That's what my therapist says. I think a good thing to stop spiraling or negative thoughts is to listen to music because then you're like, you can focus on the music and then maybe you do a bubble bath with some candles. And if you don't have a bubble bath, maybe if you don't have a bubble bath, if you don't have a bathtub, maybe you get in the shower and you do a facial and a mask and like do some
Starting point is 00:50:19 self-care because someone not calling you is not always about you. Someone not texting you back is not always about you. Someone not texting you back is not always about you. Because I think we always forget, we are the main characters of our story and the person you're going on the date with is the main character of their story. And you don't know what's going on with somebody because that's them, that's their life.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And if they don't, yeah, if they don't call you or text you then that means that they're not in a place where they can connect with you or maybe they and then it's okay if someone doesn't like you you can't go on a date with 100 people and have 100 people like you um you could be in a room for 100 people and you only need one to only need one to believe in you believe in you i mean lady gaga said it the best on that press tour and she said it a hundred times and so she was the one who took it and said i'll repeat it and that's all lady gaga needed it only takes one it only takes one um and then also it is okay to take a break from dating.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I took a big, nasty long break from dating because I was like, I simply cannot do it. I don't want to. I'm not feeling great about it. The streets are dirty. We need a street sweeper. And we got to clean this up a little bit. And I need to feel good about myself before I can present my best self forward um yeah and then also I'll say this people who have on their dating goals where it's like I'm still trying to figure out my dating goals don't go out with them don't be the person to help them figure out their
Starting point is 00:51:56 dating goals go out with people who have the same dating goals as you yeah I like that goals as you yeah i like that also i wonder if like when you come home from a date if calling a friend either that night or the next day would be helpful to like not necessarily go over the date like maybe talk about it a little bit but then maybe here there like what's going on with them because you're not thinking about you and your stuff. And you're getting like a little bit of love, like a little bit of like connection. So you're not just like waiting and hoping and expecting connection from the person you just had a date with.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And you're like, okay, here's a reminder. I do have other people in my life that I love and who love me and this feels good. I still have this. What's going on with them? That's great. That's a nice update. I went on a date. It was fun, but we don't have to harp on it because like who knows um yeah I maybe that could
Starting point is 00:52:51 be something that feels good too I like that because that's also a thing that I do I will if there's no one to talk to there's usually someone there's like i have like five people that i'm like these are the five people that i will talk to after a date you are one of them um and uh sometimes it feels really good especially when it like an egregious thing happens on a date where i'm like this man did this to me it's very fun to like scream it into a phone as i'm driving home um and then it it doesn't feel as bad because you're like your friend goes yeah girl that was insane what do you mean he had long oval fingernails that he didn't clean underneath um oh I've talked about that a lot on why won't you date me they were gross he looked like interview with the vampire and then he got mad I was like I gotta go home but i was like i can't go home with you i'm not getting tetanus like nothing is like getting laid is not worth testing my tetanus shot do you know what i'm
Starting point is 00:53:53 saying like no sir uh-uh those look like dirt digging nails and my pussy, so no digging here. But yeah, I... And you get to say all those fun things to a friend. Yeah. I like that. Solved. Solved. We did it. Jordan, what are you drinking?
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Starting point is 00:55:35 And I don't really like the rebrand. It doesn't look appetizing to me. Yeah. I'm trying to drink Starry. No, I'm trying to drink Sierra Mist. That's refreshing. A mist. Okay, bye.

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