Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer Is Waiting with Bated Breath
Episode Date: May 1, 2024We all miss the old days of TV where you got 22 episodes a season. This week, Sasheer talks about finishing Dawson’s Creek (WARNING - light yet non-specific spoilers ahead) and Nicole counts dick-si...ghtings on Queer as Folk. Jordan is having a bowl of milk-less cereal, leading Nicole and Sasheer to wax nostalgic over their favorite childhood cereals. Nicole likes to have sky meals on the ground, but is not a coleslaw queen. They discuss the plot of Never Been Kissed, a mom who punched a teacher, the perfection of Golden Arm, the work of director Sam Raimi, and the musical episode of Xena: Warrior Princess. Then they answer listener questions about their experiences doing improv comedy and awkward run-ins with neighbors. No BuzzFeed quiz this week.   Email or call Nicole & Sasheer with your friendship questions at:424-645-7003nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link https://siriusxm.com/friends and code FRIENDS.
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hello sashir hello nicole how are you i'm good um i finished joss's creek
how many seasons was it six Six. Six full seasons.
All right.
Okay.
Each season has like 24 episodes.
Mm-hmm.
It was quite a commitment.
Old school TV, 20 episodes where some of them don't matter.
And I like it.
Yeah, there will be random.
Dawson's Creek, like every show has holiday episodes.
And I guess the holiday Dawson's Creek, like every show has holiday episodes. And I guess the holiday Dawson's Creek chose was Halloween because every season they were like, we're going to do a Halloween episode.
And I'd be like, why?
But actually, I looked up later that the creator, Kevin Williamson, wrote Scream.
And I know what you did last summer.
So it's like, I think,
wanted to keep the horror genre alive in this work too.
But yeah, sometimes I'd be like,
I don't care about this.
I don't need to see Joey get scared.
Like Dawson and Jen just made out in the last episode.
Now we're putting that on pause so we can like get a little spooky.
I don't care about that.
A little spooky.
Yeah. That's funny to me. I it yeah but it was great i just restarted watching queer as folk and there is no halloween episodes
uh i don't think there was a christmas episode i think i made it to the end of season one and i
think it's like 22 episodes and i was like yes yes! Yeah, they don't do long seasons like that anymore.
No, and I miss it.
Give it to me.
But it is quite amazing
because it's like,
damn, there's so much story here.
Now I'm like,
those writers were so good, obviously.
But to flesh out so much
over so much time, or maybe it's easier because you have
so much time i don't know i think it's easier because you don't have because you don't have
time constraints you're like we have 22 episodes to figure this out and one of the episodes is
just going to be halloween and we're not going to advance the story we're going to go oh ghost go, ooh, ghosts, spooky vampires.
And then we're back to the creek the next episode.
Yeah.
It was good.
Ooh, Jordan has a question.
She said, were you expecting the end of Dawson's Creek?
I was not expecting it at all.
And I was upset at first. I don't want to give it away in case anyone ever wants to revisit
this old ass show.
But
yeah, something really crazy and dramatic
happens at the end. And I did
like it because I think
I don't know how else they would have ended the show.
Sorry I'm being
so vague, Nicole. I mean
I'm not gonna watch it. how does it end and if you
haven't watched dawson's creek fast forward maybe in the notes we'll put where we where we stop
yeah i'll just say i won't say who it is but someone dies and it is unexpected and they're
not the first person who dies either there's other deaths that happen in the show
where I was like
I really did not think
this is what the show was going to be.
I thought it would just be like fun little
high school romances, which it was that.
But I was like, oh my god, people are dying?
Who dies? Stakes are high in this show.
Does **** die? No.
**** dies? No.
**** dies? No. **** dies? No. **** dies?
No.
**** dies?
Yeah.
Wow.
You hate to see it.
I went through four people.
And I, you know, I mean, it's like the end of 13 Reasons Why.
If you're going to watch it, don't listen to this.
Someone gets AIDS and dies.
And you're like, wait, what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they're like, if the show knows it's going to end,
they're like, well, better go out with a bang.
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Yeah, I didn't watch any of it, so I don't know.
Oh, it's so good.
I was showing it to our friend Tessa and she was like, oh my God, is that a dick?
And then we spent a lot of time rewinding and pausing to see if we saw dicks.
And I think we do in the pilot.
I think there's two dick sightings.
Whoa, what network was it on?
Showtime, baby.
I mean, there could be dicks.
Dicks are allowed.
Showtime, there can be dicks.
That's their new tagline, and they didn't ask for it,
and now it's here to stay.
There will be blood, and there can be dicks.
I mean, I'm here for it.
I love seeing a little dick slippage.
Yeah.
I feel like there's so much dick on TV now.
Because I guess they're like, it's the boys' turn.
It's time for the boys to get out there.
That's equality.
We had to see lots of titties.
And now it's time to go below the belt and see flapping dicks
have you seen righteous gemstones no i haven't is that good it is it's very funny and there's just
so much dick in it like in a funny way i guess it's not like actually supposed to be sexy
it's just like oh it's just funny it's just ha ha he he jordan
said you see alexander asari's guard stick in true blood i've seen all of true blood and i don't
remember it oh interesting i haven't seen any it's good it's a fun show uh vampire bill goes
suck it you are mine and it's one of my favorite things and i love saying it because to me it's one of my favorite things. And I love saying it because to me it's funny.
I just started the pilot episode of Charmed.
Because I think that'll be my next old show to watch.
Yeah.
Charmed is beyond great.
Spoiler, Shannon Daugherty does not stay for the whole time.
I do know this.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
Because I guess I heard it at some point in my life.
Because it was part of the Zyguys, baby.
The WB.
They had hit fucking shows.
They really did.
Oh, Buffy is so good.
And then you better believe I watched the spinoff Angel with David Dukov.
That's not his name.
David Boreanaz name David Boreanaz
David Boreanaz I think, yeah
Yeah, I think so
Angel is so good
I mean, it was on for
years and years and years and years
years and years and it
it's so good, you know, both shows
for me kind of like, I was like, oh
what are we doing now, but I watched them till the end
Yeah
I mean, you're a true fan yeah same with queer as folk by season season four should have
been the last season season five goes a little bit off the rails and you're like what are you
what the club the club they all go to gets bombed what okay so it seems like someone would have died
no yeah but i don't think anybody dies.
Oh, wait, someone does die,
and it's exactly who you think it is.
Whoa.
Because they were sick the whole time.
Oh.
So it's like, we knew.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure he dies.
Listen, it's been years since I watched it,
and it's giving me all the feels,
and I'm like, this is so nostalgic.
Nostalgic? Nostalgia-istic. Nostalgia. oh it's giving me all the feels and i'm like this is so nostalgic nostalgic nostalgia
nostalgia i think you were nostalgic i think it is nostalgic it didn't sound right so then i tried No. First one was great. You got it. Nostalgic. Yeah. Jordan, what are you eating?
It's like a bowl at Neverending.
It's a perfect bowl.
What?
What?
Is it for a big bowl?
What?
Sorry, I'm eating frosted flakes.
Ooh.
And you're going to get really mad at me.
I'm eating them without milk.
What?
What?
I know.
But why are you even using a spoon then?
Yeah, use your fingies.
To be polite because you can see me?
Can you imagine me just like full on with my fingers with this?
But you didn't want to be so polite that you didn't eat in front of us.
It would make more sense.
I don't want to be slightly polite.
I'm still going to eat in front of you, but I'll just eat a spoon.
This is true.
I probably wouldn't eat in front of you, to be polite.
Sorry.
It's okay.
Have you always done that?
You know what? Since I was a kid, kind of, but I also grew up with not super strict parents, but more
of no sugar cereals, but the cereals we did have was like
raisin bran and frosted flakes and i grew up like a hardcore like rice krispies girl yeah with skim
milk oh gotta keep it healthy gotta keep that the snap crackle pop to to not be too heavy i grew up in a house where we ate
cheerios and honey bunches of oats and every now and again my mom would get the little boxes
the little like one serving boxes and boy oh boy were those days nice i'd be like oh my god i can
have fruit loops and then frosted flakes
made me sad because all of the sugar coating would come off in the milk and then it would
just be like regular corn flakes and i'd be like now my milk is sugar but i want sugar in the bites
right right you know and that was that was my cross to bear. That was my emotional sadness.
Yeah.
I ate the Reese's Puffs, and that was so good.
Those were never in the little boxes.
The little boxes were like Frosted Flakes,
regular Corn Flakes, Fruit Loops,
maybe Frosted Cheerios, maybe maybe i don't remember what are the
apple ones oh apple jacks apple jacks yeah whoa apple jacks were good whoa Okay, yeah. Lucky Charms. Lucky Charms.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
My favorite cereal that I was not allowed to have,
that's my favorite now,
is Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
It is so yummy.
Yeah. Oh, I love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Put that on some ice cream and have a nice day.
Mm-hmm.
That sounds good.
Mm-hmm.
And then
you know me, I love my
oat bran, or no,
crackling oat bran.
It's so good.
You know
what I did the other day? I bought a bunch
of Biscoff cookies from Gelson's
and I have been living
like I'm in the sky
on my couch.
Oh my goodness, Biscoff's on the couch?
On land?
Yes, on land.
They are so delicious, sky or land.
Yeah, yeah, they're good.
Do you dip them in anything or you just eat them plain?
I just eat them plain.
I don't want to damage the flavor profile.
Do you know that there is a Biscoff spread like Nutella,
but it's Biscoff?
Yes.
Have you tried it?
I've tried it, and it's not for me.
Okay, cool.
The cookies are so good.
I wish it was.
The cookies are so good.
God, I just love them.
I do miss the Delta logo that is on them
when I buy them not from delta i'm like oh
these are just non-descript biscoffs that just came from the store and they're not branded to
any soul i want the delta brand biscoffs i wish i could get the delta brand biscoffs in the store
yeah they should do that opportunity for delta Right? As like an experiment to see which ones sell better,
Delta brand or Zero brand.
Oh, interesting.
Because also, it's not Zero brand,
it's Biscoff, like they're their own brand.
Hmm.
I don't recognize Biscoff as a brand.
Wow.
I recognize them as Delta Biscoff cookies,
and you get brandless ones at the store.
Just no name cookies.
No, just cookies wandering around not knowing their identity.
Sad.
Sad.
I mean, they probably always sell better with the Delta logo because people be like, oh, yes, I had I've had those before in the sky on Delta.
And then they're like, I'm going to treat myself to a Sky Treat on land.
Yeah.
Being bad.
You know?
I also had Flanagas and Syrian cookies.
I can't remember.
What is the actual name of them?
Mark and Jerry.
Otis and Funkmeyer. it was two brothers yeah and they came together
to make cookies and it's those like shortbread cookies with a dollop of chocolate in the middle
yeah and they're so decadent oh augustine and oh and titus maybe or frank for augustine and frankfurt i really feel like
augustine is one of them augustine is one of them yeah but i don't know i i simply don't know they're
so good i was awake when the snacks went around on my flight the other day, and I was like, don't mind if I do.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Michael and Augustine.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Miguel and Augustine,
because I think they're like French people or something.
Yeah.
Bonjour.
Bonjour.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, they're so good. Ooh, I could get them right on instacart okay
i'm gonna get a bunch sent to the house we're gonna have a sky treat on land
all the sky all the sky treats on land i mean that's sometimes i get those factory boxes of food and you heat them up. Sometimes they feel like sky food.
Oh.
If I don't plate them, you know?
I mean, yeah, because you're eating out of like designated.
A little plastic tinny thing.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Factor has this.
We're not sponsored by Factor.
But, okay.
They have this like turkey chili.
It's a sheer.
It's unreal. It is a sheer. It's unreal.
It is so good.
It is seasoned so well.
And it's just yummy, yummy chunks of meat.
We love that.
Yeah.
And sometimes I'll put them in little lettuce things and I'll have chili lettuce boats.
That's really smart.
Thank you.
I'm a genius.
Thank you. Shredded chicken bowl is my favorite i don't like shredded chicken it really upsets me it's the like uh texture yes
i stuck my tongue out and pointed to my tongue and you knew it they did that's exciting for me yeah it's like the
texture of it is not there it's ugh i don't like shredded chicken it upsets me yeah well thankfully
there's other options thank god have you had raisin canes i don't think i have i haven't had
it yet but it looks really yummy it looks like the chicken fingers I like.
Which are?
Not nasty looking.
Okay, I'll show you
the picture that I show servers
when I'm trying to figure out
if they have the chicken fingers that I want.
Okay, just
wait. Are you waiting?
I'm
with bated breath, yes. Okay, just just wait i'm on the edge of my seat
okay those do look good they're like thick and crispy
yeah if they look like that they look like fish sticks and they're nasty too smooth you'll like
the raisin canes because there's one in Burbank and they look like this.
They look good.
And their toast is good.
I like their coleslaw.
I like their fries.
Yeah.
I'm not a coleslaw queen.
It's like, what, shredded cabbage with mayonnaise and vinegar?
And sugar, yeah.
Ugh. Ugh. not for me i'm not doing it you can't make me
i'm so sorry but i think you're gonna have to i won't i won't there's there's gonna be a doorbell
ring any moment now and coleslaw is gonna be delivered delivered to you. Sashir, I would be so mad.
I would be so angry if there was ding dong and then some man went coleslaw delivery.
Do you remember I've never been kissed
when Drew Barrymore, Josie,
her brother eats a bucket of coleslaw
and everyone's like, oh my God, he's so cool.
Ew, no, I do not remember this.
You don't remember when rob i believe her brother
eats a bucket of coleslaw and is like yeah and everyone's like whoa and then he takes a teen
to prom as a full-grown adult and everyone's like kind of fine with it i haven't seen the movie in
a really long time whoa you don't remember never been kissed like verbatim? I sure don't. You do?
Wow.
I mean, I've seen it recently.
Oh, okay.
Ew.
Yeah.
Ew.
A whole vat of coleslaw.
He's like dumping it into his mouth.
Yeah.
And this is her real brother?
This is her real brother who helps legitimize her as like a cool student.
real brother who helps legitimize her as like a cool student so he himself as an adult enrolls in high school joins the baseball team and the baseball team like goes to fucking finals because
they have an adult on the team that's really funny it's wild and i'm like put these people in jail
and what was is she i honestly really don't remember i know she goes to high school
but i really can't remember what why why because she's a journalist at the chicago sun times and
they're doing an expose on teens of the time and she goes to high school undercover to figure out
what teens are doing and then falls in love with her teacher michael vartan. And he's like, I think you're beautiful.
And like, you're going to go to college.
And she's like, you're just saying that
because you're my teacher.
And they're on a Ferris wheel together.
And he's like, no, I shouldn't be saying this
because I'm your teacher.
And then she like starts blushing.
And I'm like, this man knows he's doing a crime.
The crimes are happening.
The expose is we allow criminals into our school who are adults and they can just live and
breathe and go to prom and get voted as prom queen it's a wild movie it's pretty wild um
there was a story last year or something where a mom was i don't know i think like a teacher was mean to her daughter or something but she wanted to
i think fight a teacher so this mom disguised herself as a student just walked into this
school and i guess fought the teacher which i don't know you could do that as an adult too i don't actually know what why you had to disguise as a student she wanted to get at her in a way where she was like surprised
if an adult walks into school looking like an adult you're like hey adult why are you here
if there's a new kid in class you're like oh do you have your transfer papers i assume i've never
gone to a different school before and then she she's like, no, I have fists.
And you're like, what?
Like, you're surprised.
No, what I do have is these hands.
And it's like, yeah, you have hands in hands that hold your papers for for transferring.
She's like, no hands that fucking are going to beat you the fuck up.
Oh, yes, this is it mom allegedly snuck into a middle school and beat up the teacher an angry parent and her and her an angry parent and her mother
allegedly showed up at syracuse new york middle school on february 16th hoping to confront a
teacher um wow two days after valentine's so much love in the world and she's coming to fight.
Sutton, apparently years younger than her age, made her way through and allegedly physically assaulted her daughter's teacher.
Wow.
Sutton allegedly beat the teacher so badly that she was taken to an area hospital for treatment and will suffer long-term effects. No!
Oh my God.
Oh, my God.
The woman's daughter allegedly threatened the teacher the day before,
so the teacher should have listened and probably not showed up.
Yeah, she's like, people are going to jump me.
I have got to stay home.
Oh, no.
The following, the mother and grandmother showed up at school.
Okay.
Oh, my goodness.
Got past security.
Wild. She's 4'10". Oh, I see. mother and grandmother showed up at school okay oh my god got past security wild yeah she's four foot ten oh i see damn wow that's wild i would never jump a teacher are you kidding they have
it hard enough they really and your kid was probably bad yeah yeah i mean seeing this is like a generational
thing the three generations of women thought this was okay so what hope does this kid have
with like morality i mean i kind of love it i'd be like my mom will beat you up my grandma will
beat you up my great-grandmother she was still living she would she would beat you up. My grandma will beat you up. My great grandmother, she was still living.
She would,
she would beat you up.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Speaking of rising from the dead,
I recently just showed,
uh,
that short film golden arm that was on Quibi to Tessa.
And she was like,
wait,
what is this?
Wait,
Jordan,
have you seen golden arm?
I'm currently Googling it to see if I have.
So the marvelous Miss Maisel
accidentally gets her arm cut off by a tree falling on it.
And then her husband melts gold to make her a golden arm.
And then she starts getting gold poisoning
and she's like sick and dying,
but she won't take off her golden arm.
And she's like, bury me with my golden arm it's a
perfect it's it's perfect it's like 20 minutes or 30 minutes it's great why did the husband make an
arm when she could have gone to the hospital listen we're not asking those types of questions. We only have 15 minutes to tell the story. We're just here for the ride of the golden arm, okay?
Yeah.
I can't recommend it enough.
I was genuinely frightened.
I was screaming when we were watching it.
Yeah, it's Sam Raimi,
who's known for Spooks and Scares, I think.
Yeah, Spooks and Scares.
But didn't he do Spider-Man?
Yes, I don't know. Why do I know him for Spooks and Scares, I think. Yeah. Spooks and Scares. But didn't he do Spider-Man? Yes.
I don't know.
Why do I know him for Spooks and Scares
and then the only thing I can cite is Spider-Man,
which is not known for Spooks and Scares?
Let's see.
What's going on with IMDb?
Also, there's multiple golden arms,
one of them being the Betsy Sedaro is in.
Oh, yeah. No, we're looking for the one
starring the marvelous Ms. Maisel.
The one that Betsy's in looks far more fun.
It is fun.
It's a very fun movie.
It's very funny.
So did you find his IMDbs?
Evil Dead.
Okay, there's Spooky.
That's a Spooky.
The Grudge, also Spooky.
Spooky!
Ash versus Evil Dead. Sounds spooky! okay there's spooky that's a spooky the grudge also spooky ash versus evil dead sounds spooky uh produced poltergeist oh that's spooky too um wait what was the the first spooky you said evil dead who's in that i don't know knife man yes what's knife man i don't know what
knife man is a tv movie set in 18th century london knife man will focus on the untold story of a
charming arrogant decorum breaking genius who challenges societal norms to transform his visions into cutting edge discoveries okay ah man i was hoping it was a man who was made up of knives
like a little further than edward scissorhands where it's like his face is knives too his eyes
are knives as well his teeth knives he is knife man knife man. Knife man.
Something called drag me to hell.
Fear is real.
Okay.
So yeah, this is a spooky person.
Xena.
Warrior princess?
Yes, the warrior princess.
Whoa.
Wait, Xena was so strange to me
because Xena did not come on my TV at like 8 p.m.
Xena came on at like 2 p.m. on a Saturday.
I guess.
I feel like daylight was out when I was watching Xena, but I don't.
But I feel like it was like a 4 p.m.
Weekday situation or like it was after school, I think.
But also I don't remember.
But it wasn't prime time for sure.
It was like earlier in the day.
Why?
Why was it?
And then the companion show I think was, it was that man, Kevin Zorbo.
What was he?
He was Hercules?
No.
Yeah.
He was?
Yes.
Hercules and Xena,
warrior princess?
Mm-hmm.
But why did they come on
during the day?
Same with VIP
with Pam Anderson.
Oh, I don't know VIP.
Oh, it's fun.
She like,
looks hot
and I think solves crimes.
Oh, that is fun.
Yeah.
And then I think there was like a gaggle
of other people too yeah why do these shows come on during the day i mean hmm is it post work i
don't know who's watching those shows because i feel like people who go to work will be in traffic at that hour right yeah okay i'm gonna google it why did xena come on
during the day was it during the day when it first came out or was it during the day when
they were showing like reruns oh maybe maybe maybe i guess I don't know. I thought I was watching it in real time.
Me too.
I guess I don't actually know.
I guess it started in 1995.
Let's see.
Where in my life would I have been?
1995.
Yeah, in 95, I feel like during the day on those channels,
you mostly had whatever soaps were happening.
And then it was like whatever talk show host,
if it was Oprah,
if it was whoever,
whatever talk show hosts were going on,
I'm around like three or four.
And then after like five is when the more mainstream shows would be on.
But I could be wrong.
I was four in 95.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So I found on Reddit,
in New York and Boston areas,
Xena aired on Saturdays at 9 p.m.
for the first three to four years.
It switched to 8 p.m. at some point,
swapping time slots with Hercules. And by season six, I believe it was moved to 1 p.m. for the first three to four years. It switched to 8 p.m. at some point, swapping time slots with Hercules.
And by season six, I believe it was moved to 1 p.m.
Huh.
Oh, I guess when it was in syndication.
I guess that's when they aired it earlier?
On Saturdays, though, right?
On Saturdays.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Huh. Interesting. probably saturdays though right on saturdays yeah yeah huh interesting this is the riveting
conversations people tune into our podcast for what time did xena in hercules air but i feel
like 9 p.m on a saturday is a death slot it feels like that's when you don't want a show to be
watched but maybe i guess maybe at the time people were watching TV, 9 p.m. on a Saturday?
I mean, probably.
I don't know.
In the 90s?
I'm going out.
That's what I would think.
I feel like people would be out.
But I guess if you have families?
Oh, yeah.
What were you guys doing back then on Saturday nights?
Watching Xena, yeah. What were you guys doing back then on Saturday nights? Watching Xena, obviously.
I think, yeah, I was in elementary school watching Xena
staying up later than I needed to be.
Yeah, so I guess, you know, there's an audience, clearly.
Yeah, for the kids and people with families.
Boy, oh boy.
Lucy Lawless, right?
Mm-hmm.
Wow. Wow. What's she doing now i don't know let's look at her let's yeah let's yeah this is what this show is wondering who someone where someone is and
then googling it do you remember their musical episode i liked it of xena oh yeah they had a
full musical episode.
No.
Xena.
Xena.
This week.
We came here for the truth.
The warrior princess will be put to the ultimate test.
All right, Kalisto.
Where are we?
Xena, be warned.
Xena, beware.
By closing your eyes, you can see what is in there. Xena, be warned. Xena, beware. By closing your eyes, you can see what is in there.
Xena, be calm.
Open your eyes.
Lies may be truth, and truth may be lies.
Battle on, Xena.
Coming up next.
Lucy Lawless.
What's she up to?
She was just in something called my life is murder okay and
i guess another season's gonna come out this year another season of xena warrior princess
my life is murder what now we're gonna even on? Adventures of fearless private investigator Alexa Crowe,
who solves the most baffling crimes,
as well as coping with the frustrations of everyday life.
And it's starring her.
Okay.
I mean, I'm in.
I want to see Lucy Lawless solve crimes.
What network is it on?
I'm not really seeing i don't know
i don't know why imdb is not telling me sometimes imdb is a gatekeeper
and they say we won't let you know what this cool show is on sorry about it i have yeah i have no
clue dumb it's an australian new zealand murder mystery crime and it just says network 10
oh is she new zealand is she new zealand is she i won't fix that she is all new zealand
i don't know i don't have no idea where she's from oh i guess i can look that up. She was born Mount Albert, Auckland, New Zealand.
Oh, so she is New Zealand.
She is New Zealand.
Well, should we help people oh sure okay yeah let's help people yeah hi i'm a longtime fan of nicole and sashir but have only recently started listening to the pod sashir inspired me
with drum lessons and i decided to sign up for classes to learn a new skill.
And I landed on improv.
My local theater is offering a six week course.
So I signed up.
My question is, do you both remember your first improv class?
How did you feel going into it?
Did you think it would launch a career in comedy?
What is your most memorable improv experience?
Yeah. Do you remember your first memorable improv experience?
Yeah.
Do you remember your first class this year?
I can't remember the actual first class.
I remember my class.
Like I remember Sylvia Zools with my teacher.
I think I can remember some faces from that class.
And we all were like, it was a huge mix of people too it was like people who were like um real adults who were probably there to like learn public speaking or be more comfortable
on their feet and then like comedy nerds who were like just out of college like me
and and then we'd all like get drinks after. We were like, we're going to do this together forever.
We love each other.
And we like, of course, never saw each other again.
I think mine was, my teacher was also Sylvia Ozil.
It was a mix of like lawyers comedy people um writers and
yeah i mean we didn't really go out but we did have this like email chain to be like
let's go see shows together and i was like i won't see a single show with any of you people
i'll figure it out on my own um and i didn't really start making friends until like 201 because that's when we like
did an indie team or whatever um but i don't remember being nervous i feel like i would be
nervous now um but yeah i just remember being like here's the thing i'm doing all right going
to this weird place and gonna sit in a classroom and make shit up with people.
And then it was fun.
Yeah, I remember being more excited than fearful.
And I don't think I knew
that you could make a career out of comedy
until, well, I guess it was sometime
within the first year of me doing improv because I remember seeing shows and being like, oh, I've it was sometime within the first year of me doing improv.
Because I remember seeing shows and being like, oh, I've seen that guy on TV and he's on the stage.
And I've seen that guy on TV or this commercial or whatever.
And they're all here or they all came from here.
So I think I eventually put it together like, oh, this is kind of where people get plucked or seen because you perform here enough you you
start booking stuff or you at least get an agent who can send you after stuff or whatever
so but that's not what i knew before i started taking a class same i figured that out later
same i think it was like a couple years in where i was like oh i could like book a commercial
oh man okay but i was really focused on like I was like I want
to be a teacher I want to teach improv and I would like practice in the mirror and be like hi I'm
Nicole your improv teacher and then when I started coaching I was like oh some people are not meant
to be teachers I am one of them I I know how to do it I just can't articulate it to you.
I found an old coaching notebook of mine recently.
And I was really into it. I liked thinking of exercises.
I liked thinking of new forms and new games that people could play.
Yeah.
I remember being really nerdy about it.
And now I'm like i couldn't
care less i mean i i remember i was coaching this one group of kids or i mean they weren't kids i
think some of them were older than me um people and i was like do you want to be good or do you
want to like have fun and they're like have fun and we're like woo so we would just do silly scenes and stuff and then they were like we're having great shows and i was like well
ride that high because i'm not teaching you fundamentals and uh it's gonna end soon and
then they like had a rehearsal where they were like or a practice session they were like we had
such a bad show and i was like okay well uh you want me to teach you fundamentals
they were like yes and then they disbanded
because they were like we're not having fun anymore and i was like well you should have you
should have done the fundamentals first but i should have just teach them i should have just
been like we'll just do fundamental like i'll just teach you the basics of improv and i was like
have fun but that's also what class is for they already have classes that teach them the
fundamentals and you asked you said do
you want to have fun or do you want to work and they said fun and it is fundamentals it is
fundamentals then i had this other group where i was like oh i can't even help you have fun
so i was like i'm sorry i'm a little too busy but't busy. I just was like, y'all are not good.
But anyway, improv is just fun.
Just have fun.
It's so much fun.
Yeah, you'll meet people.
The people who are still in my life are people I've met through improv.
So you can get a lot out of it.
And hopefully it's fun.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah. Give us another one jordan shiraka was in a group with me um and we were better at hanging out than performing together
we loved hanging out we were like we were so compatible as people but for some reason it
didn't make any sense because also everyone is like talented and writing for tv and directing and we're like and for some reason we
just couldn't we couldn't get together and have a good show that is very funny uh i feel like that
is a weird phenomenon where you're like god we work as you know friends but yeah we just can't
be good that was like my first team i really liked
everybody everybody was like also older than me um so we all had different references and
boy oh boy we had some stinky shows but then we had some fun shows yeah and that's that's the
magic of improv yeah you never know it could be amazing or the worst thing you've ever done.
And that's improv, baby.
Okay.
Hi, Nicole, Sashir, and the rest of the crew.
Much love for you and your podcast.
From Berlin, Germany.
I'm a big fan of your podcast and all of your individual work.
I'm in a bit of an awkward situation with a neighbor of mine, which is on for i guess over one and a half years
because i'm starting to think i need help with that because i don't know how to act anymore so
here we go i moved into my flat about two and a half years ago that's apartment for people who
live in the states it's it's a bit of a bigger apartment complex. See, clarified later. And luckily, we have an elevator or a lift.
Not common here at all.
Usually, they just make you walk up and down to your flat apartment on the fifth or sixth floor.
Naturally, in that said elevator or lift, you meet your neighbors.
And some of them often, some more often, wait, what?
Some more often, some never.
There we go.
So from when I first moved in, I kept running.
I kept on running into a guy with his little son.
One day, maybe six months later, I was next door at the supermarket waiting in line or
the queue at the checkout when I saw what I thought was that neighbor and his son.
So little friendly me gave him a big smile and I said hi. But that guy just looked at me,
first confused, then after a bit smiled back. Okay, I thought maybe he didn't recognize me.
It took a couple weeks meeting my neighbor in the elevator again that I realized the guy at the supermarket was not my neighbor.
And it couldn't hear.
But turns out that fake neighbor was also living in the apartment complex one house down.
And we kept seeing each other near the house, on the street, all over the time.
And let me tell you, it has been a wild ride of us saying hi sometimes.
Sometimes just smiling, sometimes not. and sometimes not recognizing each other.
It is so confusing since one and a half years.
So my question is, what should I do?
Should I just stop him next time and tell him the whole story that I confused him with
another neighbor?
Ha ha, so funny.
We actually are neighbors.
Or should I just stay consistent and say hi every
time, ignore him, start running away when I see him? I'd really appreciate your input.
I think you should tell him. I think that's really funny to be like, I'm sorry I keep saying hello to
you. I thought you were somebody else, but then I keep seeing you because you are actually my
neighbor. So that's why I said hello to you in the first place
but now it's a fun thing that i giggle about to myself yeah i think that could be nice i think
also part of me worries that because it's not nothing actually happened like even if even if
you didn't confuse this person for another person it's okay to smile at people and that and especially
since you see this person consistently you could just be like hey i see you all the time and i think you live near me like i'm blah blah blah
and then he'll say his name and then now you know each other and you know your neighbors and it's
not like he's not like who's this person who keeps smiling at me um yeah because also i think i if i
was in the situation and i told that story, I think I'd be worried
that the person would be like, cool story, bro.
Like, Oh, you thought I was just a different neighbor.
Awesome.
Like there's not much here.
Um, and that person also probably doesn't think it's awkward.
I mean, maybe they do, but they probably, I think we like make up stories in our heads sometimes of like, oh, they must think I'm so weird because I'm smiling all the
time. That's actually a nice gesture. And if they're smiling back, at least some of the times,
I don't think they have a problem with it. So I think you could just say, hi, I live around this
area. That's probably why I see you all the time. Do you? And he'll be like, I do. And then here's
my name. And so next time I see you, I'll actually Do you? And he'll be like, I do. And then here's my name.
And so next time I see you, I'll actually know who I'm talking to as opposed to just
like, I think I know that person.
And then you'll fuck.
And then that'll be your husband.
Congratulations.
Congrats.
And you'll have a kid.
Isn't that fun?
Automatic family.
Wow.
Yeah, I think you're probably right.
I'm constantly like,
this person needs to know why I'm doing this.
And I need to tell them exactly the reason why.
But yeah, I'm the main character in my story.
This person's probably not even thinking of me past the smile.
So yeah, it's just like,
oh, I think we're neighbors.
Nice to meet you.
I'm Slavonna. Oh, Sl slavonna i was trying to think of
a german name and that's not a good one hmm greta i'm greta yeah i mean there's nothing wrong if
you do tell the story but either way just talk to them just Just say hi. Yeah, just say hi.
Or Guten Tag.
Wait, where are they?
I thought they were in the UK.
Oh, I thought it said Germany.
Is that what it said?
Oh, it's Germany.
So they can say Guten Morgen if they see them in the morning.
Guten Morgen.
What's Guten Tag?
Guten Tag. It's got to be, because i know guten is good i forget what
tag is my sister lived in germany and nuremberg for five years oh guten tag let me see
guten good day yeah so you're right guten tag good day
guten tag into you
Guten Tag.
Here you go.
Guten Tag into you.
Boo!
I'm assuming this, the person writing it is German, right?
I'm assuming.
I think so.
Yeah.
But, I mean, they also could be like my sister who was a transplant for a little bit and then moved back to the U.S.
But I agree with you guys.
I also feel like I would make a bit out of it.
Like every time I saw him, I would do something different. Or I would have a new hat every time I saw him.
How would you arrange that, Jordan?
I would figure it out.
I love doing like random tricks.
Like one time I...
What?
You like doing random tricks?
I love doing random tricks.
Like I'm trying to work out a plan where I can buy like tiny ducks.
And every time I go visit my sister and like I'll just place a out a plan where I can buy like tiny ducks and every time I go visit my
sister and like I'll just place a duck randomly in her house one time I sent like Halloween masks
to her house and she got so freaked out and she's like I don't know who's sending these masks to me
and like six months later I was like he was me like oh my goodness oh no that are long cons that's pretty funny i like that oh no i once sent pillows to sashir
as a bit and then i forgot the bit it took too long for the pillows to come
yeah it was like um i mean i still i don't even it seems sincere because they were best friends. They were friends. There was pillows.
It's literally said best friends. And you like broke them apart,
like as a heart.
And I was like,
Oh,
how cute.
But I,
it had my real name on the package.
So I thought it was like swag for the show or something like that.
And then I asked if you also got it and you were like,
no,
I sent them.
It's a bit.
And I was like,
I don't, I don't see a joke here.
There was a defined idea that I was going to execute
that I simply don't remember. Okay.
It was gonna be really funny too.
Yeah.
I remember, I remember being like,
ha ha ha.
Cause I didn't even send them to your house.
I sent it to your PO box.
So it wouldn't seem like it was from me.
And it didn't seem like it was from you.
And I wish I could remember.
It's also okay.
If you just sent me best friend pillows,
it's not what I did.
It feels like what's what you did.
No,
why would,
no, no. Why what you did. No, why would, no,
no.
Why would I send?
No,
I had to look up your PO boxes.
I don't have it readily available.
I had to sift through emails.
It took a long time and I don't remember why.
Huh?
All right.
Well,
thanks for the pillow.
Yeah,
no worries.
Listen, if you have something you want to get off your chest,
a question, a query or something,
you can email us at Nicole and Sashir at gmail.com
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