Bittersweet Infamy - #94 - Dulce Amor (Sweet Love)

Episode Date: February 25, 2024

Bittersweet Romance - Candy Hearts edition! Inspired by the randomly chosen candy heart “CUTIE,” Taylor tells Josie about “Mi Bebito Fiu Fiu,” the viral TikTok anthem based on Peruvian ex-pres...ident Martín Vizcarra’s alleged salacious WhatsApp messages. Plus: Josie and Taylor indulge in a racy game of F, Marry, Kill!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Bitter Sweden. I'm Taylor Basso. And I'm Josie Mitchell. On this podcast, we share the stories that live on and in feed. The strange and the familiar. The tragic and the comic. The bitter. And the sweet. We're at the back half of the love month. How's the back half of lovin' goin'? Taylor! Ohhhh! See, for a minute there I felt like I was getting loved up the back half, because it was going real uh... it was going real rocky. See, I really did try to make a resolution not to do like a graphics text joke within the first three minutes, because I've noticed
Starting point is 00:01:01 that a lot of our episodes have that. I wonder if it scares up new listeners. Oh yeah, but I mean fuck it, we're here right? It's a can on Ring of Bell. Um, so that's- Well, I mean we can edit it. I choose not to. I will say that I'm finishing Love Month Strong. I found myself encountering a lot of feelings of interest and delight while I was researching today's story and so I'm gonna end on a buzz
Starting point is 00:01:27 but I am grateful to have a little bit more of a break as we return to our regular bi-weekly that's every two weeks schedule. Yeah I know a short month but a packed month indeed. Yeah it's been a wild ride. Like Mr. Toad said, get out of my car and into my lily pad. I need the break. I need the break. But right now, we have some very important work to do, Taylor. What's that? Are we gonna play M.A.S.H? No. We're not gonna play M.A.S.H. I was excited, okay. Well, we're gonna play instead.
Starting point is 00:02:05 The ever loved, always cherished, a similar game to MASH. I'd say MASH might be like when you're a little bit younger, and then you graduate to this wonderful verbal parlay game, Kill Fuck Mary. Fuck Mary Kill, right? Fuck Mary Kill, Kill Fuck Mary. Fuck Mary Kill, right. Fuck Mary Kill, Kill Fuck Mary. I go Fuck Mary Kill it because that's kind of the order that you have to do it in if you're going traditional, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Okay. If you're going according to the Bible, which I guess you're not supposed to kill them. And you're not supposed to fuck before. It's you know what, actually? There's a lot of killing and fucking in the Bible. Okay, so. True, true. It's also known as Kiss Mary Kill.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Snog Mary Avoid, Shag Mary Avoid. Oh, whoa. Bang Mary Kill. Have you ever heard that? No, I swear. So I'm going to present you with a few categories here and some choices. Okay, and I want to just I want to just say I'm a nice guy I will be playing the game in the spirit in which it's intended there will be a fuck a Mary and a kill but in a perfect world I don't I want to I love and want to fucking marry everyone. Aww that's beautiful. Not you Hitler. World peace baby.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Oh, world peace, baby. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I feel like this, I don't know if I would categorize this as like a Valentine's Love Month game, but I think it does require you to love and to hate and to kill the fuck. Yes, yes. But you know, what's a love, A love hate situation is just a big circle. It's been a long day. I'm gonna disassociate a lot. I'm flown over here. I'm just to the left. A special guest chose he's projected consciousness. Okay. Hit me with it. The first category that you have, Taylor, to choose from, is
Starting point is 00:04:06 Animals of the Podcast. Animals, okay. So, already I'm getting put on a list for this, so thank you. But it's animals if you were that animal. You know what I mean? Fuck it, I'm going in human. That's implied. No. Okay. I'm not a coward. Whoa, no. I'm not a coward. Whoa, Ducky Dog, let's go. Okay. Animals with the podcast. Okay. We have Peter the Dolphin. Peter Dolphin. From Dolphin House. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have the animated llama voiced by David Spade in the Emperor's New Groove. Okay. Cusco. And a little, a little mutation going on here. Um, Godzilla. Yeah. So you've got Peter the Dolphin. Yeah. Cusco. Fuck, fuck Mary kill in that order. And Godzilla. Yeah, fuck Mary kill in that order. Here's why. Uh, you would fuck Peter the Dolphin because he's young enough for it. Yeah. Yeah. Mary Kusko, he's rich. Kill Godzilla, because if you fucked with him, you'd get uranium poisoning.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh. Mm-hmm. Sorry, oxygen destroyer bomb for old Gojira. My apologies. But do you think that you could actually kill Gojira? Or would it just be like the horrible- You're telling me that- The one who keeps coming back.
Starting point is 00:05:23 In 17 movies, no one's managed to kill this guy at least once. me that he keeps coming back in 17 movies no one's managed to kill this guy at least once yeah he keeps coming back there's 17 movies okay so what do you want me to do what do you want me to do you want me to marry the fucking guy cuz I can't kill him I have to try god damn it I have my right okay I just wanted you to consider it. I wanted you to know the whole picture. I considered it and I've rejected it. I can tell. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Now, I'm very, what you will realize about me is I'm very quick on the draw with fuck Mary kill and I'm not sentimental. I'm able pretty quickly to figure out, you can give me three rotten answers and I'm like, well, you know, we all got to go someday. Let's get to the bottom of this. Practical. You're a practical man. Ruthlessly so. Next category.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. Sources. Frequently seen on the podcast. Frequently seen sources. Let's go. Fuck Mary Kille. Wikipedia Wikipedia Vice magazine You'll catch something from that and Atlas Obscura oh He has to think about this one folks he has to think about this one Okay, so I kind of have to work backwards on this one Atlas Obscura
Starting point is 00:06:40 Okay, I guess I'm working from the inside out, like a warmin' in apple. How'd you get in there there? I got in there by marrying Atlas Obscura, because I think that that's where you set up a home. That's a good reliable partner. That's a good- It's a source with a little bit of wit to it, so it's not like you'll be bored in your conversations. There's a little bit of repartee.
Starting point is 00:07:03 They like to tell you about interesting things. I like to tell you about it, you know, it works. Interesting places. Yeah, yeah. It's a good match. It's a good pairing. It brings me no joy to say I would fuck Vice Magazine, and that is only because given the choice to fuck Vice Magazine and Wikipedia, I mean, you'll catch something from Vice Magazine, but Wikipedia seems like a pretty boring lay. An inconsistent, patchy, a patchy lover. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And then Wikipedia, Wikipedia, kill by default, because I don't want to fuck warm area. Yeah. Oh, how do you feel about killing Wikipedia? You know, that's true actually. And you raise a good point. I could probably hold my nose in pity fuck Wikipedia because Vice is already on the way out. You're right. That's a fair point. That's a fair idea.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Is that your final answer? Mary Atlas Obscura. I'm gonna Mary Atlas Obscura. I'll fuck Wikipedia. I think that Vice would be the better lay. But it's already gonna croak. So let it go for the greater good Okay, so all the insomniacs who burn time and brain cells on Wikipedia. You're welcome. Oh my gosh, but wow That's very that's big of you very considerate. I'm a helper. You know, mr. Rogers always says look around there will always be helpers That's me. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:08:26 From your own episodes, Buck, Mary, Kil, Sexcula, The Universal Language, And Fight the Real Enemy. So wait, are these the episodes themselves or the subjects they're in? The episodes. You have to- you have to kill, you have to fuck, you have to marry an episode. How bizarre. What a weird thing to ask me. Okay, yeah. You had no issue with fucking Wikipedia though. I'm not going to share one.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Oh no, we're Godzilla. We're Godzilla. I was a human. No, okay, let me think. Okay, let me think. I mean, you killed Godzilla. So, can we reiterate? So, the episodes are number 54 number 54 sex killer which is a story about me watching an old the lapidia porno Number 64 the universal language, which is a story about me learning Esperanto Yes, and then the last one number 62 fight the real enemy, which is about shanae no Connor Yeah Can you I said I take the game seriously and I move quickly, so put up or shut up.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Uh, I would f- Okay, wait, wait, wait, but it is like, it is the episode itself. It's not the- I understand. No, I understand this. That makes it harder and weirder and more vague. I understand the problem. I thought you like, moved that thing that was not there out of the way. Just like- That was my imaginary bitch bang that I moved. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:48 When people are acting like I don't understand the prompt and like no I understand the prompt I just don't enjoy it but let me let me click. Um whatever. Let me think let me think let me think, let me think, let me think. I would say that I would fuck Fight the Real Enemy, lively and passionate. I would marry the universal language. I don't know. I felt very at home when I was learning Esperanto. I felt that universality that we speak of.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Kill sexcula enough. That's like hurling it into the fire too. I've had enough of sexcula. We'll never talk about it again. It's done. No, I don't believe it. I'll probably bring it up. It's something that I need to just continuously purge myself of. I think the continuous act of purging is important as such it will never truly be gone. But I purge it again here, kill sexcula.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Okay, fuck Mary kill. Frequent recurring bittersweet infamy guest characters. Barbara Streisand. Okay. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I knew he was coming up. He came across my little radar too, yeah. And...
Starting point is 00:11:05 Kill him, by the way. I knew he was coming up. He came across my little radar too, yeah? And... Kill him, by the way. You don't know. You don't even know yet. You don't even know who the last person is gonna be. You don't know either. No, I don't. That's the problem. Oh. Peggy Hill. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Peggy Hill.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Barbra Streisand. Fuck Mary Kill. That's your task. Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, Peggy Hill, Barbra Streisand, fuck Mary Kill, that's your task. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, okay, yeah, definitely kill Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Yeah. Now this is hard. This, I might have, like, I feel like I have to sleep on it.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'd like, I take a long time to make my decisions, but I'm gonna fast track it for you in the sake of our listeners. If I marry Barbra Streisand, I get to live in a mansion with little dogs. Yeah, with candy store in the basement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, a lot of the same dog. Pretty funny, right? Yeah, a lot of the same dog. Oh, same dog. But if you marry King of the Hill matriarch Peggy Hill, then you have a boggle champion with size like 16 feet and a workman's command of the Spanish language. That's hard. You know, part of it is I don't know if Peggy Hill would be a great lay. I don't. I think she would be a selfish lover. Whoa, whoa dog, yeah. Cause it like I seize it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:30 But I would still marry Barbara cause that's big boy money. Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna marry Barbara Streisand and then I'm gonna fuck Peggy Hill. I bet it'd be fun. You like like, capture, if you capture like... Feeling frisky? Feeling frisky... You would rid the world of Sherlock Holmes.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Sherlock's dad? Well, and Sherlock by extension, because you kill him, no more Sherlock. I love how this ends up being like a time travel. It's a logic, yeah. You need to just go back in time and fuck him. Fuck Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's dad. And have Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I could be Sherlock's mom.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Mom. We've cracked the case. Fuck. You know that... Mmm....feeling where it's so good you actually want a friend to get one? That feeling of... ...and getting the last. Where it just hits in all the right ways that you... ...to get one multiple times a day. Yep, McCafe just shouts...
Starting point is 00:13:56 Mmm. Order your McCafe on the app or in restaurant today. Mmm. Must be McCafe. At participating McDonald's in Canada, app download and registration required. Hey, Sweethearts! Can't get enough of the BitterSweet action? Join us on coffee.com that's ko-fi.com slash bittersweetinfamy for the Bittersweet Film Club, our film club for monthly subscribers, where we cover movies with an infamous twist.
Starting point is 00:14:31 For February, the month of Bittersweet Romance, we're going to be covering the 1970 film The Honeymoon Killers, about the real life murders of Martha Beck and Raymond Fernandez, a pair of serial killers that found their victims through the lonely hearts column. This ended up being a polarizing film and their discussion got pretty lively. John Waters would have had an extended 10-minute sequence of the mom sleeping there while they flocked right next to her and there would be like fluids everywhere and there would be tits flapping. It would have been incredible Taylor. I needed that to like get into the camp of this movie and it denied that. I'm so sorry. I'm fucking pissed right now Taylor.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I'm well. Those are your thoughts. That episode is waiting for you to listen. Just become a monthly subscriber over at k-fi.com slash bittersweeten for me. Stay sweet and see you at the movies. bittersweet of me. Stay sweet and see you at the movies. So as you may remember, Jersey, unless the memory, the memory of the time sickness has taken hold, we drew about damn time sickness. One day you're sitting there and you get a nosebleed and it's the fucking time sickness.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But unless that's happened, which we know that it hasn't, then you might remember that we drew candy hearts to decide our most recent subjects, and I drew one to decide the story that I would be choosing for this episode. Why don't we take a listen to how that went? I'll draw yours first. Okay. It says cutie. The story that I chose today was based on the word cutie and that was tough. That was tough. You were not too thrilled with having pulled cutie.
Starting point is 00:16:30 That's the nature of the random prompt. Anything else would have been better. That's the nature of the random prompt. You know, that's tough titties for the kitty when the milk went dry as my mother was always fond of saying. Wow, Anna Maria. And while the word cutie doesn't appear. Uh huh, but the spirit of? The spirit of? Things similar to?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Diminutives like? All do appear. And I hope that as I weighed in and ultimately decided that you were worthy and that you had completed the... Treatment for time sickness? Oh my god. That you that you've completed the prompt that's for the fucking prompt. I hope that you two ultimately decide that I have risen to the
Starting point is 00:17:15 occasion. Oh, I will be coming down with judgment. Do not worry. I wrote it as though I would be up against a task master and I think that it holds up to the sniff test. The one caveat it does not specifically include the word cutie with my apologies. No, no, no. I think the spirit of the word can transcend the mere lettering. Let's move beyond these categories. So, me, me, me, me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm warming up because Josie, today I'm gonna be singing you a bittersweet love song. Okay. I'm back on the viral Latin music beat. It's a beat that's treated me very well before. Good, yeah. I have to say, I think it really treated me well again this time. I really had a lot of fun with this story. I'm gonna be telling you all about a viral TikTok hit of 2022. Okay, okay, not that long ago. Let me say this. It's the kind of song that you would see typically over top of
Starting point is 00:18:21 videos of boyfriends helping girlfriends straighten their hair or doing kind of cute things and they would play like this kind of song in the background. It was a Spanish language track. Okay. It sort of ends up that because this song has gotten so big and has gotten so many millions of views that we get Bad Bunny singing a little snatch of it during an Instagram live and of course it explodes even further from there. So, Josie, while this word cutie does not appear in my story, would you agree that something like bebito is somewhat analogous?
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah, sure. Yeah. Bebito? Like a little baby? Like a widow baby in Spanish? Does it really translate to widow with the W? Well, a widow. Good one, dude. Thank you. Back on my bullshit. Josie, have you ever heard of a song called Mi Bebito Fufu? I have not, no.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Okay. Well, I'm gonna play you this song now and I will say that the video that I'm gonna show you has a completely unrelated rotating series of background images of just cats hugging each other. Just little kittens playing. Oh, that's pretty cutie. Very cutie. It has nothing to do with the song itself, so I would request that you don't incorporate that into your observations about the song for time's sake. But there are kittens and they are cute. I did still give you the one with the kittens because there was one without the kittens, but I thought you deserved the kittens.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But please don't talk about the kittens but I thought you deserved the kittens but please don't talk about the kittens. So let me get this clear. We're talking about the kittens but we're not in time. After this get it out now get it out now because we're never talking about the kittens again. Okay the song itself is in Spanish I'm gonna come in with a translation job after the fact so don't worry if you don't understand Spanish at home or Josie if you don't understand the particulars of it just listen and enjoy and I'll come in and ask you what you think afterwards Papá me así, como un pionono de vitrina. Enrollame así, con azúcar en polvo en dulzame. Y es que tú eres mi rey.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Qué lindo eres tú, eres mi bebé, mi bebito, Fufu. Qué lindo eres tú, eres mi bebé, mi bebito fiu fiu Para mí lo más importante de mi vida, lo más importante es mi familia familia que formé con Maribel, mi esposa hace 30 años la mujer aquí amo y la mujer con la que quiero vivir hasta el último en mi vida. I can't believe I had to watch all of those cute, adorable cats. And I can't say what cats.
Starting point is 00:21:38 What cats? I don't know if you're wrong. There were two with the little hats and they were hugging. Old news. So let me, let's dive into the song of it all. Did you recognize the melody? I recognized the song. Yes. Cause it's not so bad.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's not so bad. Would you be able to tell me a name of an artist or a name of a song? Daito? Yeah, Daito. It's Daito. It's Daito. It's Daito.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It is Daito. Or it's Dito. Or Dito. Um, it's, oh god. It's Dino. It's Dino. It's Dino. It's Dito. It is Dito. Oh, God. Deep cut. I would say it is Dino, thank you, but more relevantly it is the song actually in structure is a parody of Eminem's song Stan, which samples thank you by Dino. Oh, layers upon layers upon layers. Oh layers upon layers upon layers. Layers upon layers upon layers.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So have you ever heard a really obsessive fan of somebody being called a Stan? Yes. Uh huh. That is I believe unless it's an urban legend. That is I believe based on the song Stan by Eminem and it's this song of Eminem in character as Stan and he's like a crazed Eminem fan He's like, Dia Slim, I'm at you, but you still ain't calling. You know you fucking you you ignored my sister and you spat in my face You know, it's like that kind of thing. That's dead on. Dead ass, that's good dude.
Starting point is 00:22:54 It's sort of a, it's about obsessive fandom, right? And we kind of see that this song is structured in this way in the sort of like spoken word parts in between the chorus. Yeah. For example, the type of thing that she says in this like part where she's doing her spoken words, she says, and mis lágrimas te mire, y mis tristestas yo te besé,
Starting point is 00:23:17 y mis caricias te dibuje, sin verte jamás de ti me enamore, which means I saw you in my tears, I kissed you through my sadness, I kissed you through my sadness. I drew you with my caresses, like draw, like to draw on paper. I drew you with my caresses. Without ever seeing you, I was in love with you. So this very heightened, romantic love poetry type of thing. Yeah, this intense infatuation. Yes. And then we get to the chorus, the caramelo de chocolate, etc. What's the vibe that you get off of, even if you don't understand all of the
Starting point is 00:23:51 words in this, what's the vibe that you get off of this chorus? It's like sugar, sweet, chocolate, like sexy baking. Yeah, and robe, me and powdered sugar. Yes, exactly that. Sprinkle this caramel chocolate. Drizzle me in caramel and blah blah blah. Yes, exactly that. Yeah. And then there's this great line here that ends up becoming very emblematic of this song. This will be a very important part of this song.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Como un pionono de vitrina en lo roya me asi. And when I first heard this song I was like, what the hell is a glass glass? Apparently I'm not alone. The glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass glass It's like a roll cake. So if you imagine something like a Swiss roll or a jelly roll Yeah, okay. A pionono is that So like el roya me si is like literally like roll me up like like a Swiss roll in a store window, right? Like a little pig in a blanket. Yeah, sexy baking and then we get to Yes, get to it is me Ray. You are my king Get a little it is do how cute You are my king. Que lindo eres tu. How cute you are. Lindo cutie.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Cutie. Okay. Eres mi bebé. You're my baby. Mi bebito fiu fiu. And fiu fiu. You know what fiu fiu means? Here's the moment I've been dreading all day. No.
Starting point is 00:25:24 It's the like wolf whistle. Wolf whistle. Yeah. Okay. So mi bebito few few is literally like my little baby. So eso es mi bebito few few. And then we get to a male-spoken word part of the song that Josie, I noticed your eyebrow went up a bit. Well, it sounded like it was sampled from a speech or some recording, like a field recording, rather than somebody being in a studio laying down a track. The basic translation of this clip is that this man is very vigorously defending his honor as it relates to his family and his marriage to his wife Maribel. Is it Vin Diesel from... Familia!
Starting point is 00:26:15 Familia! From Furioso y Muita Frizo, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's a curious guy. No, I win. Wait, is that Vin Diesel? Is that Vin Diesel? Talk about Fuck Mary Kill. So that clip actually holds the key to unlocking the entire secret meaning of this TikTok hit. In order to explain the origins of Mi Bebito Fu Fu, the much loved teeny bopper
Starting point is 00:26:49 TikTok hit of 2022 that spread virally throughout the entire Spanish-speaking internet sphere, we must understand a little bit of something about corruption in the Peruvian government. So if you'll take a walk with me. Okay, all right. Let me get, let me just lace up my shoes here. We're going for a hike. We're going for a long hike in the Andes. Okay. In terms of what causes the endemic corruption in Peru and its government, there isn't one tidy answer. Many obviously point back to the arrival of Spanish conquistadors in the 16th century, the sort of colonial systems that they implemented. Wow, we're going, we're walking way back.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Oh yeah, oh yeah, listen, I hope those shoes have good insoles. It's also the case that a lot of endemic racism is built into the corruption in Peru because the, the campesinos, the indigenous population that like lives outside the capital in the rural areas, etc. obviously very underrepresented and discriminated against. Okay, yeah. And the corruption that emerges intensifies the deep inequities between the wealthy and middle class, and the poor often indigenous rural population in everything. Education, health care, public safety.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You have like a huge swath of the population as food insecure and living without water and electricity. Sadly, it's kind of the story of the Americas in general. Yeah. Apparently a very common phrase there is roba pero hace obras, which means he steals, but he also carries out public works. So like that's what you would say. It's like a very sort of like al Capone, you know what I mean? afe obras which means he steals but he also carries out public works. So like that's what you would say. It's like a very sort of like al Capone, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Like yeah, he's doing crimes but he built us a community center. You know what I mean? Okay, so yeah, it's not a Robin Hood necessarily. No, it's like he built us a community center and yes, he like sold the contract to his brother-in-law but that's what everybody does. Right, yeah. And in the end we got a community center and yes he like sold the contract to his brother-in-law but that's what everybody does. Right yeah and in the end we got a community center so fuck it okay okay yeah. And sort of because of this Peru has had a revolving door of corrupt governments impeachments convictions coup attempts like these poor fucking people are snake bitten when it comes to
Starting point is 00:29:06 attempts. Like these poor fucking people are snake-bitten when it comes to effective governance, and like corruption is seen by many as like the problem of to solve in terms of like getting Peru, which is like it's not a country without resources and it's not a country without income, but the income overwhelmingly goes to the already rich through unethical means, let's say. Okay. Samuel Rota, the executive director, at least when he gave this quote of the Peruvian branch of anti-corruption nonprofit transparency international puts it this way, if you have a head of municipal services who is appointed simply because he's the cousin of the mayor
Starting point is 00:29:41 or paid the mayor some money under the table rather than because he was qualified for the job, then of course you're going to have inefficient and inadequate public service. Corruption is culturally embedded in our society. It transcends governments, even kinds of regime, be they authoritarian or democratic, left-wing or right-wing, is the reason that we have such impoverished, unequal public services, those who have money pay, and those who don't get screwed. Which I think is like a really important point because you can like, it's easy to imagine this as like, oh this is a right-wing authoritarian, no the left-wing guys are getting paid off under the table too, the centrists are getting paid off too, like it's everywhere and every type of politician seems to be infected with this disease. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And the rare politician who runs on a strong anti-corruption record, at least at a national level, is a guy who will go on to become president. And his name is Martin Viscara. V-I-Z-C-A-R-R-A. Okay, okay, thank you, yeah. Martin is the son of an elementary school teacher, his mother, and his father is the mayor of Moquegua, which is a region of Peru, and he was a member of the American Popular Revolutionary Alliance, which I gather is like a socialist-aligned
Starting point is 00:31:01 political party. Okay. Martin is the husband of Maribel Diaz Cabello. Okay, recognize that name. Where do you recognize that name? Maribel from? Perhaps the Kitten Video. Perhaps the Kitten Video. Hasta el último de mis días. You know? That Maribel. While Martin's dad was kind of a lefty, the best way that I could find to describe Martin's politics simply, and I will say that like I am by no means an expert in Peruvian politics
Starting point is 00:31:33 and I was learning a lot as I did the research for this, and it's very hard to boil people down into like left and right the same way you would in like upholarized America. You tend to see a lot of different people with different issues and different approaches. Yeah. This guy I would say is an independent centrist whose biggest issue is institutional corruption in Peru. He wants to get rid of corruption. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's his like central yes that he's running on. Yeah, sounds like it's a good good one to have. It is a good one to have. It puts him in a lot of conflict and it makes him a lot of enemies because you know who hates that shit is corrupt people. They don't like when you're trying to start this
Starting point is 00:32:12 anti-corruption shit. But it also wins him a lot of admirers because this is a problem that affects so many people in this country. Someone's doing something at least, yeah. Martin Viscara ends up being the governor of Moquegua himself from 2011 to 2014. During this time he avoids corruption, social indexes for the area improve. He's able to settle a dispute between residents and a mining company about a proposed copper mine contaminating the water. He kind of comes out of that looking good. And eventually he becomes the minister of transport and communications And then the Peruvian ambassador to Canada. Holy shit. Hey, cut climbing the ladder. Look at look at a he's from Canada Literally, he's climbing. He's climbing north. He's climbing up. That's the ladder. Yep. That's consistent with my knowledge of physics
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, yeah And he finally gets named the VP for this guy Pedro Pablo Kusinski and like every fucking president in Peru, videos come out that show allegedly show this guy Kusinski buying votes so he resigns. Viscata leaves Canada, comes and takes over as president. Oh shit, yeah, as VP. What? Yeah. Viscata leaves Canada, comes and takes over as president. Oh shit, yeah, SVP, what? Viscata's tenure as president lasted from 2018 to 2020. During that time, he's credited with introducing party primaries. He got rid of some like parliamentary immunity, because like, there was parliamentary immunity to do whatever the fuck you wanted, so he was like,
Starting point is 00:33:42 okay, obviously that needs to be like, Donald Donald Trump the president can't be guilty of murder shit that needs to go right yeah yeah oops loophole he also banned those with current criminal convictions from running for public office sounds like a good idea you should look into that yeah novel fucking idea down here yeah so his approval initially skyrocketed as he was sort of a tough hand against special interests in the capital. Yeah, and kind of proving himself
Starting point is 00:34:13 from his like past endeavors with it to current, like he's got a pretty clean track record it seems. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately what happens next is, I don't know if you noticed what timeline we're talking about. COVID happens. COVID. And not only does the GDP decline 30% in Peru,
Starting point is 00:34:35 but Peru apparently also has the highest COVID-19 mortality rate in the world. Rough. Yeah. Not great. I think I do remember that. That is kind of clocking a distant bell, but yeah. And so meanwhile, all of these people who are against Viscata now have more leeway to go after him for things like they basically try to impeach him twice the first time it
Starting point is 00:35:03 doesn't work. They try to peg him on like cronyism and bribery stuff. Yeah. And then finally the second time, the second impeachment, they are able to impeach him on the grounds of peddling construction contracts back when he was governor of Moquegua, which he denies. They basically said, oh, you sold contracts. You're as corrupt as everyone as everyone you're against. He denies it, but he does get impeached. Says it's like a political hit job on him because he's the anti corruption guy. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And because he's just unlucky enough to be a leader at a really
Starting point is 00:35:35 hard time and yeah, we'll see. Yes. Yeah. Out of completely out of his control. Yeah. A far right politician named Manuel Merino takes over. He registers 94% disapproval from the population based on the circumstances under which he took office, which were broadly seen as being like a coup on Viscata. Yeah. Protests take place to deaths curging these protests. Merino ends up residing after six days as president. A new person, Francisco Sagasti, takes over and finishes the rest of this term. So this is like PPK's term that went through Viscata and then Merino and then Sagasti finishes it off. Whoa. Passed him through a lot of hands.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yes. So Viscata is out of office. He runs for Congress in 2020 with a party called Somos Perú, which I saw characterized as a Christian democracy party. Oh, we are Peru. Yes. And the photos of them are them doing hand hearts because their logo is a little heart. So it's a lot of hand hearts. So we got a lot of photos of Martin doing hand hearts, which would be pretty embarrassing if there was some sort of like wacky love song that came out about him people would use those a lot Oh, like a little candy heart conversation. Little candy heart, little candy heart, heart hands. Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay, okay I understand this Somos Peru congressional run after the fact to have been unsuccessful
Starting point is 00:37:03 Okay after the fact to have been unsuccessful. Okay. In 2021, Viscata, along with two other members of his former cabinet, were banned from holding public office for 10 years in an 86-0 vote from Congress because they alleged that he and his wife, no, song is 2022. That would be funny. Okay. The other congresspeople, like the song, because they used it to make fun of him right? They were like, yeah, the song slaps, Pibito. You'll see. You'll see. Okay. Well, the allegation was that he and his wife, Maribel, his wife of 30 years, got early COVID vaccines in a scandal
Starting point is 00:37:37 called Vacuna Gate. Vacuna being Spanish for vaccine. Martin Vizcara says it was an approved clinical trial that they received along with 12,000 other people. His opponents say no, you like you basically jumped the line in secret when Peru had the highest coven mortality rate in the world and you were this anti-corruption guy kind of thing. Ooh, dang dang. So he's been banned from holding office for 10 years. 10 goddamn years, damn dude. On May 15th, 2022,
Starting point is 00:38:08 a TV series called Panorama, which is very, you know, it's a current affair kind of thing, right? Yeah. They air out Martin Viscata because they, among other things, have acquired some texts, some WhatsApp messages. Oh, some WhatsApp. Some WhatsApp messages, and, some WhatsApp messages.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Some WhatsApp messages, and they are between him and a fellow politician of Somos Peru, and her name is Zuli Pinchi. Okay. That's Z-U-L-L-Y-SPACE-P-I-N-C-H-I. She's a beautiful woman of her mid-40s. She's a former congressional candidate for Somos Perus. She's divorced. She's a lawyer and a social activist and relevantly she's a writer and poet. Oh, huh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So what are the texts that we see? They are texts to the effect of when you get to the hotel, tell them that you're the girlfriend of Rudy Ramos, who's the politician that Martin is traveling with and here's my room number they they say things like the alleged texts and I say alleged because there's a lot of denial so I'm just gonna allege everything I say is alleged okay okay okay the alleged texts from Zuley to Martin say things like I love you I need a hug you don't know how much I miss you. Eres mi bebé, eres mi re. Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. And Viscata replies, I love you, I'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Another text we see, Viscata has sent a selfie of himself and it's like a very like classic straight on boomer selfie with like a line mouth. You know, just like a picture of a face. Yeah. And the woman alleged to be Zuley replies, few, few. Oh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So. Me bebito, few, few. Accompanying this are all of these voice messages, very soppy, I love you, I miss you, I want you by my side, I'll dream of you un beso grande, All of these things. In his voice kind of thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:09 For their parts, both Zuli Pinchi and Martin Vizcara deny, deny, deny everything. Uh-huh. There is an interview that Zuli does with Milagros Leyva about the whole thing where she says like at the end she's like, Milagros is like, okay, you're basically saying that this is all a lie in a fabrication Who would like lie to do this to you and Zuley is like yeah, let me ask you this Who are the pedophiles out there looking at little children? Who are the men who beat and murder their wives? I'm just saying She's just free-silling from the dome. It's crazy, it's a complete... But point being, denies to the end that like, these are fake text messages, there is no affair.
Starting point is 00:40:51 The conspiracy is large. Yeah. We only know each other professionally and the same from Martin Viscara. Mm-hmm. Oh my god. And that's when Mi Bebito Fufu gets made by a pair of internet musicians named Tito. Well no, Tito Silva Music is a, he's made other like parodies about Peruvian politics, but he seems to be a legitimate musician. Same with Tefi Sihu did the vocals. They did a video for Mi Bebito Fu, with her like drinking a bottle of wine
Starting point is 00:41:25 and it's got all of these like cut out pictures of him with hand hearts and she's like writing in her diary and there's like superimposed Piononos spinning in the air. Oh gosh, yes, please, yes. And about that Pionono, where does it come from? Yeah. Let's throw it back to Valentine's Day 2014 Whoa dog! when a romantic poet named Zuli Pinchiramires had a love poem
Starting point is 00:41:53 published in what seems to be like an online lit mag called Las Noches que te soñe the nights that I dreamed of you Okay Tell me if any of these lyrics, any of these words are familiar. En mis lágrimas te mire, en mis tristesas yo te besé, en mis caricias te dibujé, sin verte jamás te timé enamoré. How about this one?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Envuelveme como un tornado, empápame como caramelo de chocolate y enrollame como azúcar en polvo en un pion glass of vitrina. Vitrina! Okay, here we go. Hello! Wow! This is a love poem that Zulepinchi wrote some 10 years ago now that in combination with these racy texts that are allegedly supposed to have occurred between her and the ex-president of Peru who is cheating on his wife have become a song that
Starting point is 00:42:50 somewhat via coincidence has become a global TikTok smash among people who have really no idea of its origin. Woah. Alright. Enroyame, Taylor! Enroyame! Colpio nono de vitrina. And so apparently that part, all the like roll me up candy sugar part, she says those parts were written when she was eight years old.
Starting point is 00:43:11 She wrote those. Which is odd because they're very sexy. I know. They're very horny for an eight year old. Yeah. Or maybe she just like really liked sweets. Maybe we're just missing some of her being in. Sweet tooth.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Dude, I was eating, I was mowing on the sweets while I did this one I ate an entire box of chocolate. You're cute. Oh, cutie. The way that Milagros Leyva put it before their interview is It's demasiado lo que hecho con tu Pionono, which means it's really too much what they've done with your Pionono, which is true. They've really run with your Pionono on this one, Zuley. They really took it to the end zone. Yeah. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:43:46 So this of course ends up being fodder for all the gossip rags and all the rubber neckers. Uh huh. Uh huh. Hello Peru. Hola Peru. It's going crazy. Yeah, exactly. Bad Bunny gets ahold of it. Oh shit. On July 4th, 2022, he performs the song while livestreaming on Instagram to promote his new album. When I say performs the song, I mean he performs it Josie style he like he's kind of making it up as he goes he's he's like he's feeling out the words he knows he knows me the beat of youtube.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Cut yourself from the anchor let that imagination fly. So those clips of him singing that those go viral which increases the virality of the song people are making parodies one of the ones that I saw that I really liked was a TikTok of someone be like, I want to be my BFF. What? Mi Bambito Fiu Fiu. I saw like an anime intro version of it. I saw it being like remixed into all different genres. I saw someone seems to have translated it to Finnish and of course this all becomes very much a subject of discussion amongst the Peruvian politicians who are like loving to rubber-neck as much as anybody. Yeah, maybe a little more. Probably a lot because they're corrupt too. They're like this is great. This is the anti-corruption
Starting point is 00:44:56 guy and he's a fucking joke. What a distraction. Yeah, I love this. Let's steal. It's imbecile. You know what I haven't done in a while? I'm imbecile. By the time this song is blown up across the Spanish-speaking internet, it has been used as a sound on TikTok 84,000 times with more than 552 million views as of July 7th, 2022 and reaches number one. Smash that like button. Smash like and subscribe. That's not what you do on TikTok, baby. I don't fucking know. We don't eat the fiu fiu. Then it reaches number one on Spotify's viral charts before it gets taken down.
Starting point is 00:45:38 The speculation is it's because of a copyright claim from Ditto or Eminem. The way that Tito Silva Music explained it on Instagram was in a video. I will explain to you what has happened. First of all, please calm down. We've already had a super cool conversation with the people who managed the rights to the original song. Let's say that this is not about a copyright issue. They understand that it is a parody,
Starting point is 00:45:58 but it is a parody with a Peruvian political context. And I imagine it may cause them some discomfort. I understand it and I share the concern. And for for that reason the song is no longer available on streaming platforms and I also decided to remove it from my social networks. In any case there's no lawsuit or anything like that. All this is for me is a learning experience and starting point to do much bigger things. Good attitude. So one of the... Or is it? Or is it? Well... Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr You know? Right, yeah, yeah, there's kittens. Me, bebito, fiu, fiu. Like, right? Like, yeah, yeah. Like a big hug, right?
Starting point is 00:46:48 So now, of course, we get videos of people running into Martin Viscata on the street and like singing bebito, fiu, fiu with him while he like awkwardly stands there smiling, grimacing with a thumbs up. And I think that- Oh, to be a politician. How fun. Well, dude, the thing is too, is like this TikTok exposure raises their profile among young people considerably.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I would say based on my observation, Zule is probably more famous for this than- Oh, oh, okay. Her previous political aspirations, right? That poem didn't launch her to stardom. I like the poem. I actually really like the poem. I love the poem. And I think it makes a really good song.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Any poem that launches you to stardom, that you, there is no poem that launches you to stardom. That's true. Not since Whitman, not since Whitman. Something that's really interesting about this whole thing that I really liked, and I think it's the point at which I kind of got the serotonin hit that really like justified this episode for me is
Starting point is 00:47:50 They have to pretend that they love this song so that they can be down with the kids and in on the joke And read the fame and reap the rewards nod smile along They also both completely deny that the texts are real or that they had an affair So they've kind of they're kind of in this jibberish Mental position that they have to be like, like, Martin ends up like thanking Tito Silva music on his Facebook page, being like, this has brought me think I love Tito Silva, I love, you know, great creatives in Peru, da da da da da. Right, right, this song slaps. So the texts are real, you've just embraced them. No, but no, that's slander, no. Right, yeah, yeah. But I embrace it, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:48:21 slander, no. Right, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I embrace it, I'm down. And with her in particular, Zuley in particular, I really get the sense that she hates and is very annoyed that she has to do all of this rigmarole, but also really enjoys the opportunity to be on TV and talk about other things and stuff like that. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And it's her poem, and it's a rad poem and so like there's- Well, it's her poem, it's a rad- Like how would you feel if someone like found your old poetry and like made it into a parody song about you like fucking the president? Okay, it's difficult. It's quite difficult.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, I don't think I would like it at all, but I could see how I would be in a position, especially if I was or wanted to be a public figure where I would have to say, uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah, I love it. Okay. I think what it really was is I was looking at this moment and I didn't envy her position for whatever her own culpability and what allegedly happened here.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I wouldn't fancy having to answer for a secret relationship in public and I said there's a lot of judgment that comes with that especially as a woman and I certainly wouldn't want to have to justify the weird baby talk that you use when you're being sexy with someone because that's just the cost of doing business. Everyone sounds crazy when they're doing like sexy baby voice. Well the answer to that is don't do. Josie. Not even a widow? Okay I hear it now. I got a real kick out of watching her love the limelight but hate the circumstances and I was trying to figure out why and I was like
Starting point is 00:50:02 but hate the circumstances. And I was trying to figure out why and I was like, bitter sweet infamy. That's your podcast. That's it. That's it right there. That's the feeling. Yeah. It's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:14 How has Zuley kept that Pionono rolling? She's appearing at festivals. She sings a song. She makes a cameo. She's definitely done all kinds of little parody appearances in one-offs and like chatted about it on TV shows and maybe saying a verse here or there, sure. She opens a bake shop.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Almost. God, God, okay, she starts a line of- Okay, you're not gonna get it, you're not gonna get it, but you're in the ballpark. Okay. Thank you for just- In 2022, we've got, we're TikTok. We, in 2022, Z Zule published a book of poetry called Pionono de Vitrina. Yeah, girl. Yeah. Get it. Get it. The cover has a pionono on
Starting point is 00:50:56 the front. What a cutie. The producers of baby doff you few Tito silver music and FEC release baby doff you few, a follow-up. Didn't catch on the same way, but you know, so it goes. The sequel's never as good as the original. The sequel never as good as the original. I'm sure they'll have mucho sexy thos in the future. And our boy, Martin Viscata, anti-corruption warrior, most recently banned from holding office for 10 years. Still married to Maribel.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Okay, going strong, 30 years. As of 2024, Martin Viscara facing some brand spanking new investigations from the Peruvian prosecutor's office surrounding alleged past instances of corruption. He claims that he welcomes the investigation because it will uh, doubtlessly prove him innocent. Buena suerte, Coradón. Alright, mmm, damn. So Anne's story of an affair as sweet as a pionono in a bakery store window glazed with a fine emulsion of bitter infamy. Fufu!
Starting point is 00:52:03 Fufu a bebito! Fufufu. Fufufu, baby. Cutie. Yeah, I think cutie applies in translation. I think cutie applies. Okay. Cutie patootie. Okay. I wish I had a better command of what are and aren't the really reliable journalistic sources in Peruvian media.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Because I'd love to have a clear picture on whether Martin Viscata really is this like beleaguered anti-corruption warrior or if he's just like a complete hypocrite. I struggled with that like when you said that last thing. I'm like, ah, that sucks for him or it's very true. I don't have a lot of looks of both. I don't know. I had to do a lot of learning for this story. I found the Peruvian political stuff. It has its own unique political context and a very complicated and friction-filled one. But you know it might also be a case where like the politics in
Starting point is 00:53:01 the US like any source you encounter is gonna have some strange bias, you know? Not strange, it's predictable bias. It could be that if you read this paper it would word it this way and this paper words it that way or you watch that syndicated news show and blah blah blah. I will say the drama of this sort of had like a veep-like appeal to me in the sense that Martin Viscata is not an exceptionally charismatic figure as you noted. He's the one reading obviously that clip of him. That was his speech about Maribel and all that thing. And it's him just kind of like sitting there very plainly. He kind of has that politician lizard person thing going. So it's an interesting, it's interesting the things that we take to humanize our politicians, I guess.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah. Well, and that's what he was maybe trying to like capitalize on, is that like, oh, this parody song of me based off of a Taito song, it does kind of humanize me in some way. The relationship is kind of cute, it was Royame, but also Maribel is there and I get to say my piece. It is a real catch-22. Yeah, I really, really like the completely like, as I said, the completely illogical and untenable position that both of these individuals have taken that we love the song and we're totally in on the joke and we love it but also this didn't happen and those weren't our texts. Those like, how does that make any fucking sense? I'm just imagining now. They have teenage children who are like, mom, dad, that song slaps. You can't deny it. And they're like, well, okay, hey, I'll like the song, but I'm
Starting point is 00:54:43 not gonna like what it says. It's like, they never asked me anything about you when you were president, but now they ask about you all the time. No press is bad press. That's what they say. It's good press. I don't know if those two are the same. I don't I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to be a public figure. It's hard to be, it's hard to, it's hard. Don't blow us up too much, bittersweethearts. Yeah, no, please. Don't listen too much. Please keep us at a healthy medium.
Starting point is 00:55:12 We don't need to be these 552 million listens that people running up on the street calling you Bibi-Pho-Fu-Fu. Cause you fucking wolf whistled someone's fucking selfie one time in a private WhatsApp nightmare One thing that I do think is funny is that I believe this song really sparked a renewed interest in the Pionono There's always the possibility that this whole song this whole craze was a plant by Big Pionono So I want to introduce that the a plant by Big Pionono. So I want to introduce that.
Starting point is 00:55:46 The ultimate corrupt body Big Pionono. Slogan, we're on a roll. It's named after Pope Pius IX. His name in Spanish is Pionono. And the roll cake comes into it where though, you know what I mean? Just Catholics. Just Catholicism. It's just Catholics. Got it.
Starting point is 00:56:06 The things we do for love, dude. The things we do for love. We go weekly. We base stories off of randomly pulled candy hearts. I guess those are them. Yeah. Because those are the things we do for love. And we had some interesting stories. We had some interesting stories. We had some very interesting stories. The Pionono. See you in March. Stay sweeter than a Pionono. I can't stop saying Pionono.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I love it. It's so fun. And now that I know it's named after a Pope, I kind of like it even more. I don't know why. Oh, you're being called. That's God talking to you. This is how I become a nun. Yeah, the Pionono The last place you're looking is inside that little roll, but he's in there. The call is coming from inside the Pionono Thanks for listening. If you want more infamy, we've got plenty more episodes at bittersweetinthamy.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. If you want to support the podcast, shoot us a few bucks via our coffee account. at ko-fi.com forward slash bittersweetinthamy. But no pressure, bittersweetinthamy is free, baby. You can always support us by liking, rating, subscribing,
Starting point is 00:57:33 leaving a review, following us on Instagram at bittersweetinthamy. Or just pass the podcast along to a friend who you think would dig it. Stay sweet. The sources that I used for this episode of Bitter Sweden for me included. The viral song, Mi Bebito Fufiú,
Starting point is 00:57:53 merits a salacious presidential scandal in Peru. On NPR, it's a clip from Weekend Edition Saturday by Scott Simon and Isabella Gomez Armiento, July 16th, 2022. The real reason behind Peru's political crisis is corruption by Simeon Tegel for foreign policy January 25th, 2023. Martin Vizcara and Sully Binchie, estos son los chats the WhatsApp que comprometen al ex presidente en el comercio by Redaction Mag May 17th, 2022. Mi bebito, few, few parody song makes light of Peruvian political scandal by
Starting point is 00:58:26 Josef Grogu Ríguez, We are with you July 13th, 2022. Fiscalía de Perú abre investigación contra expresidente Vizcara on February 21st, 2024 in TelesurTV.net. I also watched the following clips, El Furor Mundial de Bebito Fufiu la cancion mas escuchada en el 2022 by Latina Noticias on YouTube, Disrael on YouTube, Exclusivo, Engañando al PJ, Las Reuniones Secretas del Procesado, Martin Viscara on Panorama, Milagros Leiva entrevista June 10th, Sully Pinchy y su historia con el bebito Fufiu on WillAxTV, and mi bebito Fufiu en poesía entrevista a Sully Pinchy Ramirez en la FIL 2022, an interview by John Enrique Fernandez, it's on his YouTube channel. I also read the Know Your Mean page for mi bebito Fufiu, I read Las Noches que te soñer by S P. G. herself on Volperna.org.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And of course we used and listened to a clip of Mi Bambito Fufiu by Tito Silva Music and Tefi C. Bitter Sweeten for me is a proud member of the 604 Podcast Network. If you want to support us, check us out on ko-fi.com. Slash Bitter Sweeten for me become a monthly subscriber like Jonathan Mountain and Erica Joe. Thank you and you will have access to the bittersweet film club. The love boat karaoke theme was by Larry Costa, our interstitial music as always was by Mitchell Collins and as always you are currently listening to T Street by Brian Steele. Roll up someone
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