Blank Check with Griffin & David - The Fifth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid

Episode Date: February 2, 2020

Griffin and David welcome back Joe Reid for the 5th annual Blankie Awards where together they present their own personal nominations and winners for the upcoming 92nd Academy Awards. This roundtable d...iscussion looks at all the major categories, as well as, references deep cut cinema from 2019 you may have missed.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Blank Check with Griffin and David Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check What a wonderful night for Blankies Blankies, Blankies, blankies, blankies. Who will win? And the nominees are...
Starting point is 00:00:30 Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-d But little women trying to live their lives. Little women don't want to become wives. What kind of book deal will Joe get? Negotiate with Tracy Letts. It's a story about a little marriage being split up onto very different coasts. In L.A., she works on a big pilot. And in New York, he mopes. This portrait's on fire.
Starting point is 00:01:20 The lady's on fire. Her dress is on fire. Literally and metaphorically, everything's on fire. Her portrait of a lady on fire. Her dress is on fire. Literally and metaphorically everything's on fire. Portrait of a lady on fire. And I think I'm gonna sit in this here chair and tell the camera all the things I've done. I'm not that happy in this retirement home. Oh no, no, no. Yes, I'm an Irish man. Irish man. Till and Jimmy Hoffa made me sad. But the ring from Joe Pesci made me glad. And also I'm a Rocket Man.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Rocket Man. Elton John biopics pretty good. But compared to Bohemian Rhapsody It's like a fucking masterpiece One glove Scissors too And the red jumpsuit babe One glove
Starting point is 00:02:19 It's about us Jordan peels us babe Oh my god In Wong's farewell The grandma's gonna die It's about us. Jordan peels us, babe. Oh my God. All right. In Wong's farewell, the grandma's gonna die to make her happy. They settle on a line. These are getting shorter and shorter.
Starting point is 00:02:36 These are fragments. Yeah. People in the basement. Parasite. Gotta make that ram done. Parasite. That's James ram done! Parasite! That's James Brown's Out of Sight. Ooh
Starting point is 00:02:50 Nothing really matters Anyone can see Nothing really matters Nothing really matters but Forky really matters nothing really matters but four key toy story four wow i'm gonna get evicted that was gonna kick me out truly special that was incredible thank you that was actually incredible thank you i'm very proud of you yes i worked on about eight other ones.
Starting point is 00:03:25 That might be the best thing you've ever done. It might be. It might be. Not on the podcast, just total. I've been practicing in the shower for a couple of weeks. So what's in the cutting room floor? What's on the cutting room floor? There are a few I just never cracked what the right song was.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I never came up with the right lyrics. I would try out different things. I never found a good Uncut Gems one. I never found a good Once Upon gems one i never found a good once upon a time in hollywood one tough to yeah i'm trying to remember what was cut because i on the train ride here i was doing the official process of cutting things from the app yeah both from the song list and from my nomination categories making the tough decisions but i decided those were the strongest ones there were also i will say this many of those songs originally
Starting point is 00:04:03 had multiple versions of course of course yeah yeah yeah two verses a bridge i'm pretty alone i mean i think stop me if this sounds crazy you could get in the booth cut a little album you can cut a little album cut a little lp you know mixtape a mixtape you remember i was talking about you wanted to do like a when the simpsons would release an album you know like he wanted that energy well and look yesterday at the time we're recording this yesterday rumor mill started hitting that warner brothers wants to hire taryn egerton to do a little shop of horrors a lot of blankies online were like fucking griffin newman erasure yeah and i was like look i can't really sing and they were like come on and i was like you know what you're right i'm gonna prove them all wrong so all i'm saying is ben the second we
Starting point is 00:04:52 finished recording this episode cc warner brothers sure okay courtesy of warner brothers pictures yeah it's a warner.brothers at example.com yes that's the reason it reason. I meant cut a record, send it in the mail. Sure, sure. Right, right, right. Lay this down on vinyl. Let's get a seven inch going. Right, right, right. What a wonderful night for blankies.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Welcome to Blank Check. 2020. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. What? You're all right. That's enough.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's enough. It's just so sad that there's not a host this year. You could do it. I know. But this is the problem. No one wants the job. It's putting an arrow on your back. Oh, just, yeah, because the woke police will come and destroy your life.
Starting point is 00:05:33 The front row is the cancel brigade. They're ready. I mean, I think we can say this now. Yeah, let's say it. Because it's, I mean, the Venn process is so difficult. Because it's a job that no one wants. No one. Right?
Starting point is 00:05:47 We tried to get way ahead of it this year. And like June or July, we had who we thought was the perfect host. And then Shane Gillis got himself in a little trouble. He pushed too many boundaries. He pushed too many boundaries. We said Shane... And he missed. He missed.
Starting point is 00:06:01 At the end of the day, that's the problem. We said, Shane, you can push boundaries as long as you hit. He pushed too many. And he missed. You too many. And he missed. He missed. That's the problem. We said, Shane, you can push boundaries as long as you hit. He pushed too many. And he missed. You too many. And he missed. Will that ever not amuse us, even though it's just a tiny grammatical error from a racist? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I want to just also clarify, when we are obsessed with that and make that joke all the time, that's the thing we're obsessed with. The weird grammatical error. Is that the metaphor doesn't track. You don't miss a boundary when you're pushing it doesn't make any fucking sense here's another correction i want to offer uh chris gethard does not like you no shit he tried literally googled new york times chris gethard shane gillis right is what i advise you people uh arguably the number two reason he got fired yes all right now monkey awards the blankie awards and who's here to celebrate with us but officially entering the five timers i'm so excited you guys
Starting point is 00:06:55 oh that's a good is this our fifth of these this is a fifth we should be locked in this annual fifth annual annual and here putting on no other officially his blank check five timers bathrobe the co-chair of the blankies awards like this is like introducing don hudson right or philip burke to do the speech joe reed aka reading range i forgot about reading range thanks you guys i'm so excited to be here yeah five timers i can finally you know show my face around the richard lawson's and emily ashita's of the world without it's a it's a very boring shame i mean it's a cigar yashida got herself in trouble moving to la yeah she might be catchable that's the thing for a while it was like
Starting point is 00:07:40 okay yashida's kind of embarrassing everyone else she's starting to laugh in the field but now you're like she might be like a once a year person for the next three years if that's gonna stalk your she's got one morning we got this once a year though with once a year we're gonna get mama mama oh she's the mother mama of like us all right we know with uh ma we should call her ma in honor of 2019 which is all over my ballot i don't know if you guys it's not online but it's not far from some of my i love this is what's weird surprise penis in a movie did you guys see ma no there's a surprise penis i mean i think it's a fakey but when she pulled that dick out of luke evans's towel yes uh i did not expect i'm sorry this happens in the film yes it happens in the midst of her. She's going to slice it with a,
Starting point is 00:08:25 what do you call it? But it also is in the midst of a scene where it seems for a second, like she's going to transfuse his blood with dog blood because men are dogs and really chill movie. And it seemed for a second and all I wanted was for that scene to play out and to see what would happen with Luke Evans with dog blood in him. I got to say, it's very weird. And it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Because I didn't see Ma, as I just said, on air. But I'm looking at my notes app and suddenly every nominee I have written down is being replaced with Ma. Yeah, yeah, Ma. It's being transfused. Magically, it's being transfused onto my list. Welcome to the blankies. Yes. We're here to discuss our favorite films and performances and
Starting point is 00:09:06 other you know achievements of the year and let's just plug it right here in 2019 let's just plug it right here we're right after this back to back recording our best of the decade flip on over to our patreon feed check feb 11th we will be dropping best of the decade uh which was hard by the way really tough it was certain categories especially i was just like how am i expected to be because it's like there's like 30 to 40 people that fit in there anyway yeah we'll get to that we'll get to that that's for the patreon right the only other disclaimer i want to offer is sometime between recording this episode and the next episode the trailer for f9 is going to drop that's true and i will be commenting on it live very excited about this whether it's in this
Starting point is 00:09:50 episode next i think we should do it in this episode but we'll find out we'll see it depends on what it goes we'll see what because the live stream is going to be a concert first oh my god wow who's there luda of course sure i'm forgetting everyone else who's there but i know i'm sure vin's gonna sing it too oh i hope vin sings i hope voice like an angel like poor table laurier but i was saying to you this is gonna be like the doughboys episodes where mitch is watching watching a patriots game right and for me this is the only thing that like i'm like it has to be playing in mute in the background live stream starts officially one hour four minutes as i mentioned off mic the last time this situation happened griffin and i were doing a spelling bee a uh movie spelling bee at videology rip and griffin just made it very well known that we were going to be
Starting point is 00:10:35 doing this while the fast date trailer breaks what was the thing you you included a fact from the fast date trailer time with every clue you would you would describe something from the fast if someone asked for a clue they also got a description of something that happens yes like nobody easel and charlie's there on kissing right we all the trailer was better than that movie but none of us had seen it yet so we were all sort of trusting that you had to be honest right which people thought i wasn't right because the trailer was crazy yes it was okay anyway this is the fifth annual blankie awards in which we pick our favorites of the year our favorites of the year oscar style yes um and we should dive right into it do we always start with supporting actress i always forget how we do this right i mean we're such a good
Starting point is 00:11:16 it feels like the right thing to start with right and i look more and more i'm going to be going from the hip this year uh-oh i, you've always been very prepared for this. But as much as you joke and guess I'm never prepared for this, in most years, I do more of what you guys do, I think, or tend to do. I know you do, David, is the first movie I see of the year is default my number one. And then I'm adding everything to that ranking. So if in December I see a movie I really like, I go, fuck, is that number six? and then i'm adding everything to that ranking yeah so if in december i see a movie i really like i go fuck is that number six and then i'm pushing things out this year i just decided if i like something i put a little star next to it that's good
Starting point is 00:11:53 interesting performance jumps out to me i put star next to it i'm not giving things slots until the end of the year sure so we'll see if that changes the results at all that's a good way to do i will say uh in my four acting categories i have zero overlap with no i'm sorry one out of 20 nominees overlaps with the academy wow that's insane kind of crazy that's crazy but that'll make it fun because i like a lot of the performances that got nominated but you know whatever but here we go and here's the category that includes the one overlap so we're doing best supporting actress first okay my nominees for best supporting actress are sophia canado wild rose jennifer lopez hustlers should have been an overlap right that's a weird non-overlap yeah florence candace lebron bergen pew for little women so that is your overlap because florence
Starting point is 00:12:41 pew is the new candace bergen who is the new lebron james because she gets fucking buckets and also because she's amazing on Instagram much like LeBron James and much like Candice Bergen all three of them all three of them so once again her official nickname from here on out is Florence Candice LeBron Bergen Pugh love it best comedic performance of 2019 Little Women right that's my take and then two classic Griff chaos picks. My fourth nominee for best supporting actress is Rebecca Ferguson as the hat in Dr. Sleep. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Great pick. I love this. Great pick. I love this. Here's the only thing I want to say about that before you even name your fifth pick, you know, the three hour director's cut just dropped.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I know. Got to check that out. I need to check it out. I am just feeling it brewing inside me. That's the Roman J Israel this year where I'm like, that movie that I kind of liked, but have problems with might be amazing and all the early reviews i've read of the director's cut make it sound even better exactly and and i'm wondering if and the i mean the director's cut just dropped this week right i think it just came out on
Starting point is 00:13:38 blu-ray or it's coming out next year whatever um i feel like potentially a director's cut could give her the win in this category. Rebecca Ferguson in Dr. Sleep is the most I've ever liked a performance that also made me think so much of Jane Krakowski doing Jackie Jorm's job. Great take. In 30 Rock. Great take. I mean, I'll just throw out my take. Her decision to play the most evil force in the world like a middle-aged woman yeah at the litchfield
Starting point is 00:14:05 jazz festival i said it's gonna make her a lock for the stevie nicks movie at some 100 she's fucking tanglewooding out of control okay ferguson is the hat goddess so derailed that you haven't even said your fifth and get ready okay my fifth nominee is judy dench and cats i'm on board with that chaos i'm on board with that i kind of love she i think she's very locked in in cats i think so i highly enjoy and i think that is i think that is the hardest and most impressive performance of the year it is i think this is great i think this we're off to a good start i think i have a good five right now my my picks are so boring i'm telling you i got weird picks this year. That's good. I like it. I think everyone talks about like,
Starting point is 00:14:46 obviously fucking Ian kills cats, right? He does. He's great. But Ian's got this one song. He's pretty much, Judy has like three. Pathos on pathos with him.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so much of Judy's performance is literally just other people talking about how she's the most important creature in the world. Yeah. And then cutting back to her. I'd argue she looks the most ridiculous of anyone in the entire movie. she can't really sing she can't she's an all right singer she
Starting point is 00:15:09 certainly can't really dance it is pure presence and pure commitment to something that is ridiculous but also you want to go to the heavy side layer so you're trying to butter her up right all right okay because she is you know she's in charge of that process to be fair i'm trying to sort of yeah you're trying to sort of, yeah. You're trying to door knob a little bit, a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. Okay. I'll let you guys throw out your fight. Oh my God. That's amazing. All right, go ahead, Joe.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Alrighty. So, um, in alphabetical order, as per the Academy's tradition, so classy starting with Laura Dern for marriage story. So I do over, I overlap with the Oscars more than I think I expected this year.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Jennifer Lopez and hustlers who should have been top competition for laura dern in marriage story florence pew for little women all the things you said about candace bergen were off the top of my head as well so very well done margot robbie and once upon a time in hollywood hell yeah not bombshell oh yeah she got nominated for the wrong movie she did and then cho yo jong in parasites yeah i mean really to me it's just who you pick that's right you're spoiled for choice i will say this about parasite because there were a lot of you know wise and correct takes about how it's very tough for foreign language movies and asian movies to get acting nominations but like they never knew who to campaign for that movie because it is such a true ensemble and
Starting point is 00:16:25 everyone is so goddamn good in it i mean song king was maybe the most recognizable face so there was some hope he would catch on but like it's really tough the same thing happened to knives out actually which is like you have so many cast members that you don't really know where to go such a true ensemble um i will say i did not know any of the parasite people at different points i had different cast members in every single category i i give it my honorary ensemble award especially seeing it a second time about a week ago it is crazy how well that cast just works as a fucking company yeah and that i just couldn't single out one well i nominated park so damn and parasite yeah and but the other, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:05 did you finish your five? Yeah, you finished. Yeah. Okay, cool. I also nominated Florence Pugh. Nice. Yeah. Who is on all our ballots as is Jennifer Lopez for Hustlers. Yes. I also nominated for the Farewell and I nominated Annette
Starting point is 00:17:21 Benning for The Report, which is the obvious Oscar in that obvious oscar nomination like lazy that people would have mocked yeah it didn't happen that would have made me happy right and instead they went for kathy bates and jewel who's great i actually think she gives a good performance in that movie um but and but that kind of felt like them being like yeah let's flip a coin to the veteran it is also weird that the globes are the ones who got the benning nomination right yep she is incredible incredible she's now been sort of snubbed twice in a row now between this and 20th century the 20th century woman snub is uh about as
Starting point is 00:17:56 bad as like the election of donald trump we'll be talking about that later yeah um but um yes no in in the report uh annette benning is incredible she's incredible um that movie doesn't work i'm a big fan of that movie and i feel like a lot of people aren't but that movie doesn't work if it doesn't have movie stars yeah um it and also she's not doing an impression of this person but she is doing this sort of like very like detailed quiet performance yes and she's playing someone who's kind of unlikable but in like a very involved and she's so good in the movie yeah but come on who are our winners i think it's pew that's i think pew is my winner it's a it's very defensible i have j-lo j-lo too but he would be number two it's almost a coin toss for me between j-lo and pew and that's a coin to your j-lo as tempting as it is to match
Starting point is 00:18:51 all three of us in the same thing which hasn't happened since the first year what did we all match on that one michael b jordan i think is the only time we've all matched in creed that's right right on one pick um i've seen although I have to say in a recent spreadsheet realignment that has happened all the time for me, he lost that award. To whom? Tom Hanks in Bridge of Spies. Hanks came in and sneezed all over him. I gotta say, even just the last 15
Starting point is 00:19:16 minutes of talking in this episode has made me re-question 18 things in my best of decade bracket. Oh, sure. I'm waffling back and forth on everything. Pew for me is just... It's a very special performance. And it is. I'm waffling back and forth on everything. Pew for me is just... It's a very special performance. And it is. It's just such a perfect
Starting point is 00:19:28 supporting performance. Yeah. It's kind of like such an ideal for me of what I want out of a supporting performance. Yeah. Where someone just owns
Starting point is 00:19:36 every scene they're in without hogging the screen. She's always the most interesting thing happening in any frame. When she's given the reins over her own little slide of the narrative yeah it's the most compelling part of the movie um i also it was the second time i saw little women in theaters uh was late and
Starting point is 00:19:57 missed the tracy letts opening it's good though came in pretty much at the end of searsha with um uh garell but really was sitting down as you have pew in the carriage and it was kind of interesting to me how much if you don't see those first two scenes how much less it feels like joe's movie oh sure it feels kind of's movie. Oh, sure. It feels kind of democratic. Yeah. But it is. It's just it's an actor who's just so ready right there is clearly going to be the dominant force of the next decade or one of the dominant forces of the next decade. And I also just think, you know, I love standing for comedic performances on the show. I go out of my way to give awards to comedic performances. And partly because the mainstream comedy is dying.
Starting point is 00:20:44 There weren't many traditional comedic performances, but everything she mainstream comedy is dying yeah there weren't many traditional comedic performances but everything she does in little women i think is funny what's amazing amazing about what she does in little women is because you know you think back to like the 94 version yeah and they cast two different actresses kirsten dunst as the young amy and then samantha mathis as the older amy excuse me princess peach sorry i stand very well corrected princess peach ob yes um but the fact that they decided to do this with this one actress to play amy and she sells it so well the younger version yeah and the older version even though her voice is so unsuited to playing like a child yeah it's such a sort of like deep and sort of like Husky voice.
Starting point is 00:21:27 No matter how prepared I think I am, I'm always taken aback the first time she opens her mouth and anything I'm watching being an Instagram video or a film performance. I always think I know how deep her voice is. Right. And then she starts talking and like, she's the new Kathleen Turner. She is the new Kathleen Turner.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I love that. Yeah. But that she's able to do that and like still sell Amy and all her sort of like bratty young Amy-ness is great. Now, please break up with Zach Braff. Can the two of you make your case for Lopez? No, I'm going to make the case for Zach Braff. She can date Zach Braff.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Who cares? People can date who they want. I mean, we all dated Zach Braff when we were young. It's a mistake. We've all had our moment with Zach Braff. You know what's interesting about Zach Braff that would draw me to him? What? He's a very rich man who can buy me anything I want.
Starting point is 00:22:07 There are two people my father always says. I'm not saying she's dating him for money. No, I know, but there are two people my dad always goes, can you imagine just how rich that guy is? And the two he always brings up are Danson and Braff. He never gets over Danson and Braff. Danson's money.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Right, you can't even think about it. But right, with Braff where it's like, is he even think about but right we're bradford's like is he even famous and he must have so much money right like so little post-scrubs right exactly and it doesn't fucking matter how much do you think he's kind of in that zone too seagull where it feels like he's like you know what i'm gonna do something if i want to do it and otherwise you might not hear from me for a while right um i i think for becker he probably was making because becker lasted a while i know i think did five maybe six seasons you know i saw dan since inside the actor studio yeah and they
Starting point is 00:22:53 didn't even mention becker and i'm like he had another show that went to syndication numbers that they don't have to guess who's seen every episode of becker david david lawrence sims well and guess who loves Becker? David Lawrence Sims. That's correct. Nice. The dog? The dog.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Arf, arf, arf. All right, my winner's Jennifer Lopez. She's fucking incredible in that movie. It's one of the performances of the century. I mean, I agree with the two of you, and it feels like it's all been said, but can the two of you make your little... My thing with actresses,
Starting point is 00:23:21 and specifically actresses with actors too, but I really get the spark of it from from actresses is when they're able to sort of gather up all of their like movie star charisma and star wattage and whatever, and just like pour it all into this character and like grab you by the lapels and like make you sit up and pay attention. And that is exactly what she's doing in this. While at the
Starting point is 00:23:45 same time like it's an incredibly physically committed performance it's incredibly emotionally committed performance like she and um and what's um constance woo's character's name i can't even remember jessica i believe isn't it yeah maybe sure no jessica's her character on uh on fresh off the boat oh you're right but anyway her and constance was character um have such a bond in that movie it's such like a very like palpable sort of a thing destiny right destiny correct dorothy but yes exactly yes yes um i just think it's i think she's nailing it on all you know on all different levels but it's it's to me it's it is the quintessential movie star performance and i think those things don't get valued as well as they should i agree and i think
Starting point is 00:24:30 look what what i love so much about the pew performance is it's the opposite kind of movie star performance it's someone fully undeniably arriving and lopez is the opposite one lopez if if pew is jude law and talented mr Ripley to come up with the 1999 analog, then Lopez is Tom Cruise and Magnolia. Oh, okay. It's someone finding the performance that channels their entire legacy as a star into the best piece of acting they've ever done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Let's do Best Supporting Actor. And they're going to give it to Dern, who's the Michael King. It's a good performance from someone who's been good for so long. I think she's great in that movie. I do too. But none of us would pick her to win. Uh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Um, I do like her though. Everybody likes Laura and she's going to win an Oscar, which she doesn't have one of. And it's just sort of one of those, you know, when you look back, you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:25:18 huh, what was the, what was the story here? And it's like, it was her, it was, she was on a hot five year run. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Um, I kind, was the story here and it's like it was her it was she was on a hot five-year run yes um i kind i kind of prefer her in little women which is a scorching take because some people think she's bad and that's very wrong but i like her wild energy you know like wild uh wild parentheses 2015 or whatever wild 2014 2014 um like i i like her and as the sort of like sparkly kind of like uh overflowing with passion mom i think she's great right she's she's playing uh a good renata and yeah i will say at the critic circle when she won you know you then have to formally sort of vote on like are we going to just give it for one movie are we going to give it for both movies and when that voting was done we gave it for both movies uh it was like okay we're moving on to the next category and i went like um uh she also was in cold pursuit this year and everyone like looked at me and i was like i just just figured i had to say that no comedy points
Starting point is 00:26:20 and no comedy circle ever award comedy points i don't your film, Trick Circle, ever award comedy points? I don't know. I'm going to make a motion. Make that motion. Yeah, make that motion next year. So, all right. Best Supporting Actor. Let's go back. I'll start. Griffin can be Kate.
Starting point is 00:26:32 We'll go... Yeah, yeah. Snake style. Yeah, all right. Best Supporting Actor. A term I only know because of Dope Boys. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Brad Pitt in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Joseph Heshy I'm seeing here. Oh, okay. In The Irishman. Tom Burke in The Souvenir. Alessandro Nivolo in The Art of Self-Defense.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And Song King Home Parasite. I'm boring this year. I don't think so. Eh, whatever. Those are pretty good. Those are good things. Yeah, they're great. All right, mine are
Starting point is 00:27:01 Timothy Chalamet in Little Women. Chris Cooper in little women. Joe. I almost thought about trying to wedge me in there. And I went, Joe's going to take care of the soup in that. Yeah. Mutton soup.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Mutton soup. Oh God. Yes. Um, Tom Hanks in a beautiful day in the neighborhood. He is a beautiful day. He is a beautiful day in that neighborhood he is a beautiful day he is a beautiful day in that neighborhood what uh oh sorry richard schiff and clemency
Starting point is 00:27:29 richard schiff in clemency good performance my number six and i felt bad about cutting him and once again you you alleviated my guilt he was my toby himself and uh wesley snipes and dolo might as well yeah which is that was that was a close one for me too. Yeah, yeah. Love Wesley. Okay, oh boy. There's one big decision based on category placement.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I have two actors right now, one in best actor, one in best supporting actor who both arguably could go either way. Okay, we'll go on. And I think this is- Let's just talk through it,
Starting point is 00:28:01 you know. I think this is the decision I'm going to make. All right. Jamie Bell in rocket man. Great performance. Good. Alessandra Navola and the art of self-defense.
Starting point is 00:28:10 It's just, he's just so good in that movie. Wesley Snipes. Dolomite is my name. Jeremy Bob under the silver Lake. Uh, who's that? Is that the piano man?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yes. That's like maybe the scene of the year. He's incredible. Yeah. And, and this piano man? Yes. That's like maybe the scene of the year. He's incredible. Yeah. And, and this is my flipper. It's, it's Willem Dafoe in the lighthouse.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I would call him like in this year of two handers where one got deemed supporting. Right. Yes. He is the supporting in the lighthouse. Sure. Much like Pitt, much like Anthony Hopkins,
Starting point is 00:28:41 much like, um, there's another really obvious one. There's a lot of two-handers where they just kind of had to make a decision yeah I can't remember the other one yeah well I'll say my flipper with it is at Tom Burke and the souvenir with him I was sort of like coming out being like well I think it's a lead role and then they ran him supporting and I was like I guess he is in and out of the movie and also it is almost sexist for me to call him the lead in that movie.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah. Because of the way that movie is designed. So I was like, yeah, sure. He's supporting. That's fine. That movie just more so than most of the ones we're talking about really feels like a duet to me. Even though it is her story. It's her story.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And yeah, I don't know. But we'll, I mean, you'll talk about him now here. I'll talk about him later. He's my winner to be clear. Yeah. That don't know. But we'll, I mean, you'll talk about him now here. I'll talk about him later. He's my winner, to be clear. Yeah. That's the performance. That's my hesitation because I think Defoe is my winner. But if he was in this category, he would probably be my winner.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Defoe is such a recent winner for me. I do enjoy him. And that's why I'm putting Defoe here and giving him the win because I've snubbed him a couple times in the past. I didn't give him the Florida Project one. Yeah. Fucked up. And I feel like this is the Defoe of the decade pick for me. You know, we have a saying in our family, use sports, don't let sports use you. Hi, it's Jeff Merrick from 32 Thoughts to Podcast.
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Starting point is 00:30:40 Look, if you've ever stayed at an Airbnb, you've probably wondered the same thing. Could our place be an Airbnb? And now that our kids have also discovered the joys of skiing, in addition to travel hockey and travel baseball, we're on the move even more. Well, our house just sits there. Why not make a little extra money to cover some costs, right? We have friends who travel south every winter and they Airbnb their place. Why not? Look, if you want to make a little extra money to cover some costs, right? We have friends who travel south every winter and they Airbnb their place. Why not? Look, if you want to make a little extra cash, and who doesn't need that these days,
Starting point is 00:31:11 maybe your home could be the way to make it happen. Find out how at Airbnb.com. So you both went with Alessandro Nivola from The Art of Self-Defense, the Riley Stearns movie, which is a pretty good movie, You both went with Alessandro Nivola from the art of self defense. I did not see. The Riley Stearns movie, which is a pretty good movie. Really funny.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Unbelievable firecracker performance. With just this absolutely like, Oh, I forgot Alessandro Nivola is talented. Yes. Like not that I don't like him. No. Yeah. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I've liked him in plenty of things, but you're like, Oh, there's a well of talent that no one has. I think he's very often, maybe not misused but not used to his best strengths and something like disobedience yeah the sebastian lalo film which i like a lot and i think he's very good in yes you watch that and you're like
Starting point is 00:31:57 this is a skilled actor doing a good performance the only problem that performance is that it's you know it's it's one thing he's good at it yeah that's what i'm saying i think very often people hire him just to do one thing because he is good at stillness he is good at seriousness very serious and then something like art of self-defense where he's playing like they're taking that he's playing notes on different instruments at the same time yeah yeah so funny in that movie he's so good that movie is sort of like an american yorgos lanthimos movie like it has that sort of weird unreality where you're like people don't talk like this especially the ending yes but uh it also kind of rules i do i feel like that movie totally passed me by i didn't get a big release it was a summer movie you know like it's very good though it's also uh because this year
Starting point is 00:32:39 also had um the art of racing in the rain so it really kind of i missed that art i didn't see that who's your winner my winner i think it's timothy chalamet for little women i think he's so good at playing that kind of you would almost feel like an actor like that would be reticent to sort of go full boat into this kind of like young sort of like you know young hot thing fuck boy kind of a thing right but he like he not only goes fully into that but then he gives this character such like you know you understand why he's sort of lashing out the way he is and sort of striking out for this connection with these you know these march girls and whatever i had gotten so fucking sick of timmy i know after the king i was ready for revolution i wanted to dethrone timmy did you
Starting point is 00:33:33 see those on back-to-back days or no no i just remember you telling me after the king i think i'm done with him and then after little women going i'm back yeah basically i mean the king the other thing the problem with the king apart from that it's not a very good movie and it was also it's like i was so ready to love that movie i love british history yeah i love shakespeare and many have said it's good to be the king and it's many i mean ralph for one um and uh there you go ben's not spoken once the king is that i mean ben's gonna weigh in oh yes you know yeah ben always saves his best for last in the blankies. Exactly. The problem with The King is that also I went in
Starting point is 00:34:08 and had already screened in Venice and people were like, Pattinson's got a great, you know, great part in this. And so I spent two hours being like, when are they going to get the fireworks back? Like, where is fucking Pattinson? Because he comes in in the last 15 minutes of that movie. And when he comes in, you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:21 oh yeah, this is great. But you have suffered through Timmy being like, should I be the king? What is it to be the king right is it to be the king oh my god have some fun and then little women she just knows how to use him yeah she really does yeah i think they have such a great sort of like working chemistry him and and sersha and and gerwig all together it's i'm sorry just uh sersha is not in the new wes anderson which i remember her being announced and everything was saying she was in it dispatched and her she got dispatched or did because i was ready for her and chalamet chalamet still in it she's not in it and the poster that
Starting point is 00:34:56 came out there's a young actress who i've never heard of who's what if it's her with like a mustache and it's like a suspirius situation they're pretending that she's benicio del toro that's amazing yeah anyway i mean she's talented enough to do that um but yeah i mean like i don't know who else i mean uh brad pitt bradley pitt he's quite good yeah i just caught him literally at the last possible second and it was he's gonna win an oscar i just said i'd rather give the spot to someone else who's not in the conversation um this guy joe pesci heard of him he's doing a lot he was on my long list for i didn't love a lot about the irishman but he was absolutely my favorite thing about that i thought he was so good um and then song king ho like i think the the the most crucial turn in parasite rests on like just imperceptible shifts
Starting point is 00:35:41 in his face and mood yeah and and and you, that final scene. And you need him to build... And also, I mean, he's just... He's just a very resting actor anytime you watch him. I mean, this was a tough year for a supporting actor because there were so many two-handers, as we said, that it's like you have true supporting performances. I enjoyed Hopkins in Aide Pope. I still have not seen it.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I enjoyed a lot about Two Popes. I enjoyed a whole lot about Two Popes. Very enjoyed. It is weird for it being like the most easy-watching movie that i still haven't gotten around to watching it on netflix but i i tried to cover more people who are true supporting performances and other than defoe i think that's fair was was kind of knocking out a lot of the more ensemble or two-hander pick i want to do my two seconds on jamie bell you fantastic in that movie friend of the show kind of the heart and soul of them but i messaged him to be cliched this months ago so i'm not just saying this because i know he's probably listening right now
Starting point is 00:36:28 it is my david a yellow award for the thing that's toughest to do which is just to play a decent uncomplicated person yeah in a movie that is like so big and where tara who i think is very very good in the movie has like so much to play yes his job is to just stand there and kind of express concern and remain steady right and he's so fucking good he makes the story more interesting than has any excuse to be yeah um jerry bob we said scene of the year i mean that's just like a perfect one scene chaos wait what do we mean that scene is incredible under the silver like i just like i'm like is that perform he is good i can. I think that scene's the best scene in the movie. It's maybe the best scene of the year, but I also
Starting point is 00:37:07 think that performance is doing a lot of work. I think there's something to the fact that it is a younger actor in old age makeup playing some weird maniacal sketch comedy old man rather than it being an actual old man, and I think that falls into the performance. I give him credit for that. I watched Under the Silver Lake on a train back to
Starting point is 00:37:23 New York from Buffalo, and I sometimes think it didn't happen i sometimes feel like it was an experience that i may have like dreamed it's such an odd it is an odd movie i watched it on a screener on a plane to sundance last year and was kind of like that didn't vibe for me and then i saw it again with you and alex at the angelica had a much better time with it it's better to see movies in theaters uh and not when you're stressed out on one point go one step back and give my two cents on the one i forgot to discuss uh sophia canado and wild rose you you did already shout her out on a previous episode but i do i just want to say my one sentence about her we talk about this and i rachel getting not rachel getting married ricky in the flash episode that the the Audra McDonald scene where there are all these
Starting point is 00:38:05 interesting layers added because of the racial dynamics of it that you can't tell if that was written into the script, if that was just a smart casting choice or if the actors
Starting point is 00:38:15 bringing it all themselves. And I think Sophie Okonodou in Wild Rose is so fascinating because it is a film that in most cases by description would sound like a white savior movie.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Most times you've seen that story. It is a is a rich white domesticated woman reaching out the hand and giving a golden ticket to a person of color right and the fact that the dynamics are flipped in that movie and i feel like sophia canada plays the sort of nuance of that in every moment uh is is incredibly compelling and impressive to me she's great great. I also love that movie. Wait, I had one other thing I feel like I wanted to say. It's gone. Oh no, just Pitt. He's supporting. He says, I carry
Starting point is 00:38:54 your bags. I agree. Very much the picture of being a good supporter. He was never in lead for me. He was always supporting and I just caught him because he's getting his moment. I want to defend my Richard Schiff pick because I did catch an air of's getting, he's getting his moment. Yeah. I want to defend, uh, my Richard Schiff pick because I did catch an air of incredulity there.
Starting point is 00:39:09 No, not at all. I was just surprised. I, I, you endorsed. I don't like that movie, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:14 that much. It's sort of, yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay to mixed on it, but no, I just hadn't thought about old Schiffy. I was surprised.
Starting point is 00:39:22 That's my two cheap performance of the year. It's, it's one of those performances. it grew on me because the more you think about or the more i think about elfrey woodard's performance in that movie which i really loved yeah we'll talk about later he's such a interesting mirror for her because he also is sort of like you see the strain yeah of what this work that he's been doing has been putting on his life and they're both sort of meeting at the middle from like opposite ends of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And they don't ever like have a moment of like really like, you know, commiserating with each other. But like, you can tell that like it's, you know, it's the same, it's the same sort of weight that's been on him.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Hard to agree. I think he's really, really good. I'm glad he got shouted out. I feel less guilty about leaving him off my list. Yeah. It is one of two performances I've seen in the last two months that falls into.
Starting point is 00:40:11 This is exactly what I want to age into doing as an actor and is Richard Siff and clemency and Joe Pantoliano and bad boys for life. Those are the two benchmarks I'm setting for the next 30 years of my career. Perfect. Pantoliano in bad boys for life perfect it's perfect that's all i want to be and he has a scene that any actor all the way up to tom cruise would be happy to be yes the horse it's incredible uh you do have the duke all right let's move on should we just move on to the acting category like the lead actors oh wait wait before
Starting point is 00:40:43 we do uh the blankankies made their picks. Oh, you got this too. So they did- They did gender neutral picks. So they picked 10 in supporting, 10 in actor. All right. But in lead, but yes.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So I will read their 10. Can I say this for just two seconds? Because I feel like this is a conversation- It's very hard to make the 10. It's a conversation that's increasing every year about like,
Starting point is 00:41:02 are the separated by gender categories going to fall by the wayside in our progressing culture? Yeah. And I think the thing is at the end of the day it is the most fun to nominate performances.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Yes. You know? It is so much fun to do. You want to have more actors nominated than anything else. Right. Because it's the easiest thing to latch on to.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And also the fear is always if you eliminate gender lines then men are going to take over every category. That is my to. And also the fear is always if you eliminate gender lines, then men are going to take over every category. That is my, that is my fear. Now for the blankies, they pretty much maintain 50, 50 parody.
Starting point is 00:41:32 It was pretty close. They did. I mean, the thing I will say is that the real problem is, uh, winners, not nominees. The,
Starting point is 00:41:38 the, the reason that it'll probably never change is that you, you want to winners. Yeah. Um, but anyway anyway here are the supporting four winners that's what i mean right yes exactly um you want uh so here are the uh supporting actors florence pugh and little women this is ranked so i'll just i'm sorry florence candace lebron bergen james pugh cool thank you uh brad pitt once upon a time in
Starting point is 00:42:03 hollywood jennifer lopez and hustlers joe pesci and the irishman song king home parasite willem dafoe in the lighthouse so those are all performances also got al pacino in the irishman solidarity we've got laura duran in marriage story daniel craig in knives out who is a lead i'm not really sure what's happening there uh you can say that anna darmas is sort of the lead of that movie. Sure. But so is Daniel Craig. That movie is about him realizing that even though he is bored of mystery solving, he is weirdly in on this person, which is what I love about that movie. That's what that movie is about. The movie is like he figures it out really early on.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And then, you know, and then he's just like, well, I'm the greatest detective. I guess I'll follow this thread because he has that whole speech where he's like you know it's a parabola it always ends and i'm always there and he's like you know he's paro but bored right and then at the end he's like here's the thing i watched you not take the money you're a good person right you shouldn't give them money yeah and i think the twist at the end of knives Out is that she probably is going to give them money because as he says, she's a good person. Right. But it's in her. She's the boss.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah. Yeah. And she's always going to have that on her rolls. Great takes all around. I'll throw out my take. I still just think this is award for the year. Performance most in need of facial hair. You want him to have a mustache or something?
Starting point is 00:43:21 I don't have any problems with anything he does as an actor. I think all of it's great. I just, I hope he has a mustache. I want a little bit of distance from Daniel Craig in that performance visually. He has an emotional mustache, I feel like. That's the problem. I keep on, it looks naked to me because I can feel him playing the mustache. And I don't hold it against anyone in particular.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And I still love the movie, but I want that stache. And number 10 was Park Sedan. I'mica we stand yes um all right so let's move on should we do they have a winner well number one is florence pew in this ranking so my guess is she's the winner um so should we move on to the lead actors or do we want to do screenplays or i forget how we sort of bounce around here let's maybe do the two screenplays. Sure. Fine. Whatever. You go first. I almost called you a bitch. I didn't fuck up.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Well, you know how I'm always going bitch like, you know, Jesse Pinkman like a fucking idiot. I need to be canceled. Don't cancel me, please. Please don't cancel me. We should make sure this first episode ever recorded at Little Nicer. Little Nicer.
Starting point is 00:44:28 This first works online. You're in on Little Nicer. I'm in on Little Nicer. Even though it's still a pretty big apartment. It's pretty big. Not to brag. And it's definitely Little Nicer. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. And Forky came up with that name. Shout out. And congrats again on your engagement to Forky. Best original screenplay. Us. Uncut Gems. Parasite.
Starting point is 00:44:50 The Souvenir. And High Flying Bird. High Flying Bird. That's a good pick. Thank you. Do I do adapted as well? Do we want to talk about these ten together? Do adapted.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Yeah. Adapted screenplay. Little Women. Doctor Sleep. Hustlers. about these 10 together yeah adapted screenplay little women dr sleep hustlers toy story 4 and glass glass yes all right a griffin pick i do it is a bit of an odd divide this year but anyway go ahead. Adapted screenplay is pretty thin for me. So I'll start with a little thin, little thin,
Starting point is 00:45:29 um, original screenplay, book smarts, knives out the last black man in San Francisco, marriage story and parasites. And then in adapted Griffin mentioning toy story 4 actually changed his mind a little bit. A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, Hustlers, Little
Starting point is 00:45:50 Women, Loose, and Toy Story 4. Hells yeah! What did it not count? It was going to be Jojo Rabbit. I feel really proud right now. I guess it counts as adapted. Sequels are always tricky. Sequels are adapted. That's why Glass is adapted to.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Original screenplay for me. The Souvenir, Parasite, Knives Out, Marriage Story, The Farewell. One of the toughest categories of the year for me. Almost everything good is an original screenplay. Can I just say,
Starting point is 00:46:23 just as a disclaimer, it's just my thing i couldn't figure out how to do it without feeling comfortable i i removed uh farewell and her smell from consideration all categories i'm definitely i can't do alex's movies he's my actual friend but she was on the show it makes me feel Alex is actually a friend. In an alternate reality, her smell's in like six categories. But I also saw it like a year and a half ago and didn't know him too well and couldn't put it in. Well, shout out Lulu because you're my winner this year. All right. Original adapted screenplay.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Little Women. Hustlers. The Report. Transit. And The Irish Man. Nice. And my winner there is Little women uh my winner adapted is a little women is a great piece of adaptation i really love it as a piece of my my winner and original is parasite yeah yeah pretty good one yeah those are my winners my winner and adapted is little women my winner and original is probably actually i think knives out well that's a great screenplay yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:47:25 little little women is just like it's it's uh the best argument for the art of adaptation that's what i'm saying it's just it's a unique piece of it's such a specific singer not the song look at one art one artist can do with the thing you think you already know as well as you possibly could yeah um dr sleep I just love that that movie is both about... Who wrote it? I think Flanagan did, right? Did he co-write it? I mean, he definitely wrote it. I don't know if he had a co-writer,
Starting point is 00:47:54 but I think that movie is so smart, operating on a meta level, more so than any other legacy sequel, about both a child of an infamous movie character living with that shadow and a filmmaker living with the shadow of the film that they are sequelizing. Yeah. And the weirdness,
Starting point is 00:48:11 attention between the King book and the Kubrick movie and who the author is of that thing. I think that script is really, really fucking smart. It addresses the conflict between Stephen King and what he didn't like about the Kubrick movie. Yes. Really well and really intelligently and really sort of like keeps a balance of it,
Starting point is 00:48:31 but like brings back all that stuff that was, that was changed from the book. Yeah. That like King sort of like, it sort of ripped the guts out of the story that he was telling, which he's not wrong. Like Kubrick's movie is Kubrick's movie. It's,
Starting point is 00:48:42 you know, it's its own thing and it should be its own thing and it's great. But like, I kind of don't blame Stephen King for like hating Stephen. No, an impossible task to go like, I'm going to try to thread the needle and make something that is both very much a sequel to the Kubrick movie and very much a sequel to Stephen King's
Starting point is 00:48:57 book. Yes. And adaptation of a sequel to a book that is different. It's a lot of, it's a lot of moving parts. It's a lot of, uh, it's a lot of plates to keep spinning of moving parts it's a lot of uh it's a lot
Starting point is 00:49:05 of plates to keep spinning yes um okay and and i just i'll quickly say toy story 4 falls into this weird thing of like frozen 2 and uh rise of skywalker which are movies that feel like nine months before they came out they threw out the entire screenplay and started over from scratch. And Frozen and Skywalker totally feel like that. Toy Story 4 is the one that had least reason to exist. Who wrote Toy Story 4? I was most fearful of. The final credit is Stephanie Folsom and Andrew Stanton. I have had people slip me earlier drafts from different writers over the many failed attempts at making Toy Story 4, including the previous last versions.
Starting point is 00:49:43 All of which I read were insulting and disastrous and had me totally freaked out about this movie and i think they kind of pulled off a miracle that the film works as well as it does uh two things about that one frozen two is great and i loved it and should have been nominated frozen two got no credit for being being as like perfectly calibrated queer storytelling as it is without being allowed to have that character be like within the constraints of what Disney had for them, which was, we can't let this character be canonically queer to like, they're like,
Starting point is 00:50:19 okay, well then we're just going to have her running through an ice tunnel and like spread, like tossing aside, like these phalluses made of ice like you were describing the one scene in that movie i like so good and that scene i think pulls off and it maybe makes me forget about all the other things about the movie that are kind of that are like wrote yes but i don't think they're i think they're at worst paint by numbers and i think at its best that movie is really really like invest itself into
Starting point is 00:50:47 the elsa character in a way that i was very very happy i think there is 15 of that movie that really successfully does what you're saying yeah and it's really cogent and is what i want out of a sequel and the remaining 85 is like watching someone else play a really bad game of dungeons dragons it is so needlessly dense it has so many fucking elements it has so many conflicting storylines like i i get the one line of the elsa thing when it's jamming it's jamming yeah and the rest of the movie had me going crazy yeah i i don't care about their grandparents i don't care whatever frozen 2 show yourself um it's not like uh anyway but show yourself was the better song too it should have should have been the one that was better. I find Bird Eye, I just want to say,
Starting point is 00:51:26 most fun dialogue of the year. It's just beautifully literate, very wordy. So great. That was a late cut for me. Right. But that's like, I mean, that's like, you know, a spoken musical. It's just great to watch those actors
Starting point is 00:51:38 run around with that dialogue. Let me give you the blanky picks. Original screenplay, knives out marriage story once upon a time in hollywood and uncut gems yeah adapted little women the irishman hustlers beautiful day in the neighborhood jojo rabbit okay just give me the um i look uh the the exact reason i give parasite my award for best original screenplay is the exact reason i'm terrified of the idea of him doing this HBO show. Because he's saying it's based around all the scraps of backstory that he built out and didn't have time to put in the movie.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And I think that movie is so great for just how fucking lean and economic it is. Sure. And how many things are implied but aren't really dealt into. So it's still going to have to do with the characters? It's not going to be like an anthology? Are you clear? anthology i think i still have hopes that he's going to pull out something of an if not like a legitimate anthology but something that is sort of like what watchman was for watchman i would be happy if it was that and i think the reason we don't know yet is because he does not know i and
Starting point is 00:52:37 i'm i'm happy to let him sort of like figure it out i think they said would you want to make a tv show and he said why not and they announced immediately. He has put no further thought into it outside of knowing he has a notebook of cut threads. Right, right, right. All right, let's move on to lead. Actor or actress? Who do you want to go for? Let's do actor first because we did actress. I think actress is like the, I don't know, actress is my most exciting category.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Okay, so let's do actor. David, you're going first. I'm going first and this is actor. Yep. Best actor. Adam Okay. So let's do actor. David, you're going first. I'm going first. And this is actor. Yep. Best actor. Yes. Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems. Leonardo DiCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Antonio Banderas in Pain and Glory. Andre Holland in High Flying Bird. Nice. And Mark Ruffalo in Dark Waters. He just missed. Great pick. He was a late cut for me. Hunchback of West Virginia.ia yes he's so great on
Starting point is 00:53:27 that movie bulldog drummond himself it's just an absolutely incredible performance yeah you know that now i feel like some people are talking about i do want to proudly say that i shout out dark water so hard in an episode and i think philadelphia episode which we recorded long before it came out you were where i'm literally like no one's gonna like praise it it's gonna vanish and it's so good and it has literally had that already people have this sort of like wait why didn't we pay attention to this movie i had uh scott tobias wrote about that on uh on vulture i had a great time with that movie i only give it one word which we'll get to later i do think it is the movie two years from now i will most be perplexed that I
Starting point is 00:54:06 didn't put it in most categories. It's just such a fucking enjoyable movie. I still want to know what he was doing with Anne Hathaway's character. That's the only thing I still want to know. I didn't get to that. Incomplete. Incomplete great. I think that's right. And I think Anne Hathaway took that role because of course it was tax deductible.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah. Listen good business is good business. Any performance in Dark it was tax deductible yeah listen but good business is good any performance in dark waters is tax deductible all right mine for best actor are antonio banderas for pain and glory daniel craig for knives out leonardo dicaprio for once upon a time in hollywood adam driver for marriage story and brad pitt for ad astra i can't believe. So close. If you had asked me to pick which one of you, wow. Yeah. My best actor is
Starting point is 00:54:49 Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems, Eddie Murphy in Dolomite Is My Name, Tom Burke in The Souvenir, Keanu Reeves in John Wick Chapter 3 Parabellum. Hell yeah. You gave a very impassioned defense on that. So I'm not not gonna go over it again i just think
Starting point is 00:55:06 it's which episode do you remember i don't remember i don't know on a patreon i can't remember no no it was on it was on a main it was main feed it was we were doing
Starting point is 00:55:11 box office game was maybe lion king i don't know who was before keanu uh eddie murphy keanu tom burke tom burke and adam sandler and my fifth nominee and my winner is paul
Starting point is 00:55:22 walter hauser and richard jewel right i knew he was your winner. I knew he was your winner. Very good performance in my opinion. He is my winner. It is so much everything I love in a performance. As much as I talk about my favorite thing being someone playing an uncomplicated kind person,
Starting point is 00:55:37 well, my biggest pet peeve is actors playing dumb people, quote unquote, or simple people or dorky people, you know, uncool people with a sense of judgment. Uh-huh. And especially for this movie and especially for how often Clint Eastwood does not calibrate performance as well. And you look at the complete catastrophe that is everything surrounding the Olivia Wilde character, the amount of nuance that Paul Walter Hauser brings to the film, I think
Starting point is 00:56:04 single-handedly transforms it. And I think it is incredible that you understand exactly who this guy is. He is never playing it with any sense of judgment. At every moment,
Starting point is 00:56:15 you are understanding why he's making the decisions, acting the way he is, saying the things he's saying, and also just like hiding under your chair in discomfort, going like,
Starting point is 00:56:24 please don't fuck yourself over like this. Yeah. I think, I think it's a beautiful performance. I think I, I think I disagree, but maybe not because of his performance. I think the thing about Richard Jewell for me is so much of it is Eastwood
Starting point is 00:56:42 being like, they, they cracked down on this guy because of the way he looked and they decided that that his profile made him the right suspect so they railroaded him well i was gonna correct you and how they didn't crack down on them they railroaded yes they railroaded the kid um and how unjust that is sure and then Eastwood seems to be like, but also get a load of this fucking guy. Totally. And that's maybe why I respect the performance so much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Because he is both hitting the necessary comedic beats. Yeah. To be in line with everything Eastwood is doing. And also playing the guy with so much emotional integrity. It is weird though. Like, did you listen to the DJ podcast with Clint? No.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Who interviewed him scott cooper i think which is right down the middle um but um but like we're he always has the same answer why do you why wait why'd you hire this guy he just you know looks like him you know like he always loves their look it's always like they just have an audition he got a straight offer he like was shown a picture of him and was like oh interesting yeah because he was originally gonna be jonah hill anyway which i don't think it works if it's jonah hill i mean i was like i love jonah hill as an actor but i was playing the game and i was like i don't know if there's anyone else who could pull this off no i think you're right there and it's i mean such
Starting point is 00:57:58 interesting story such interesting character i was just really blown away by every micro and macro decision he made. Um, all right. Uh, did I, I will. Yeah. Yeah. Who my winner is Antonio.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That is my performance this year. That's your, your one. It just absolutely ruined me. And I love him as an actor. And like, and it's a tough year. Cause like,
Starting point is 00:58:17 I think obviously Sandler is wonderful. And uncle James, I think Leo is like close to career best. It's maybe my favorite leonardo di caprio performance i am not usually a fan he's no federal marshal but like it is pretty good yeah it's it's it was a great really great performance of his banderas i will always have close to my heart because i saw pain and glory uh i saw an early sort of screening of it pre, pre, pre Toronto walked out of that screening and the cat's trailer had dropped. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And so literally I'm in like the hallway outside of this watching the cat's trailer on my phone, trying not to like freak out even though I'm like freaking out. Sure. And I have to like go find the shippers like around the corner. Cause I'm like, I'm like bought a meal and sat down with it just so i'd like sit and experience the cat trailer processing the cat trailer at schnipper and so like that and pain and glory have been like
Starting point is 00:59:14 wrapped up in my head like the peak of your year yeah basically uh did you say you're a winner i didn't mine's adam driver for matter for marriage story good performance i think he's so phenomenal on that i think he's so phenomenal in that. I think he's so... I think the big reason why a lot of people think that movie is slanted towards him is because he's so good in it that your sympathies sort of go to him because of that. And I think you're not totally up to the challenge.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I think she's good, but she's not on his level. I think she's not on his level. Really good, but that's my opinion. I pretty much agree with that. I think the problem good, but she's not on his level. I think she's not on his level. Really good. But that's my, I pretty much agree with, I think the problem people have that movie is they don't understand that she has lived her complete arc. When the movie begins, you've mentioned this to me before.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I'm with you on that. I still just think he is such a specific lightning in a bottle performer. This is a great actor. I mean, of course it's a very dynamic performance. He's very obviously in tune with bomb back like you know they obviously it's an interesting culmination of the decade for him too hell yeah which maybe i'll get to soon all right so my winner was antonio who's your your winner is paul your winner is adam yes all right
Starting point is 01:00:22 uh let's move on to best actress griffin you go for it best actress my nominees are lapita neongo in us jesse buckley in wild rose alfrey woodard in clemency adele anel portrait of a lady on fire and naomi merlant portrait of a lady on fire those ladies are on fire both of them them literally and metaphorically on fire. Everything's on fire. Mine are Elizabeth Moss for Smell. I am under no such constraints. Sure, yep, fair.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Elizabeth Moss for her smell. Lupita Nyong'o for us. Mary Kay Place for Diane. Florence Pugh in Midsommar. And Alfre Woodard in Clemency. So I have a lot of crossover with you, Griffin. I've got Lupita Nyong'o in Us. I've got Jessie Buckley in Wild Rose.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I have Adele Anel in Portrait of a Lady on Fire. I also have Ana de Armas in Knives Out. And Zhao Tao in Ash is Purist. Nice. I have very David very good pick by me. That's what I mean by very David David means good. No. Yeah. And my winner is
Starting point is 01:01:35 Jesse Buckley. Wow. She really has been all year and that was such a surprise movie and performance for me. I rewatched her recently had a great old time. She's a goddamn star uh joe my winner is elizabeth moss i as i got out of her smell i was my literal thought was it's gonna take a lot to beat that performance for best actress for me and nothing did it's it's so the the high wire act of that where it's going to be i'm going to be so aggressively unpleasant to you for like the bulk of this movie i'm going to dare you to look away i'm going to dare you to not like me and like still it makes good on all of its promises is amazing it's so
Starting point is 01:02:18 good my my winner in a squeaker is lapida yeah she. She's just edging out Adele Hanel, who is maybe a little bit cut by a split vote within the sections of my brain with her co-star. Agreed. But I think she is so incredibly good. But Lupita is just, I got to give her the edge on just a technical level. That is such an impressive skill piece performance
Starting point is 01:02:44 in every way. Yeah. The fact that both performances are equally riveting when one is so much showier than the other. Yeah. She's just great. And I fucking love that movie. Let me give you the blankie picks.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Number one, Adam Sandler, uncut gems, Adam driver, marriage story, Lupita Nyong'o, us, Florence Pugh,
Starting point is 01:03:00 Midsommar, Awkwafina, the farewell, Leo, Brad Pitt, Ad Astra, Ana de Armas, Antonio Banderas, and then a tie between Elizabeth Moss and Scarlett Johansson.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So I guess they got 11 out of 10 there. I know this is the exact opposite of what their intention was, but Lupita was number two on that list. Three. And who was number two? Driver. So ostensibly, this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You could say that Lupita and Adam Sandler are the winners. Sure. Yeah. And Q was number one in supporting. Who was the highest ranked male in supporting? Okay. I know that was what they didn't want to do. Sure.
Starting point is 01:03:36 But just for my own mental Rolodex. Sure. Okay. So, yeah. Actresses. Weird year. Weird year. I don't have any of the oscars nominees no i feel like that was the one category where i think the oscars let me down the most i mean i like sersha a lot i guess she's my winner of those she would have been a high
Starting point is 01:03:59 runner-up for me it's she's almost screwed by how consistently good she's become yeah and how much she is serving the movie in that well i mean she's just getting right to winslet territory she'll be at five before she's 30 it's crazy yeah they say it's tough to make the five she's gonna do it before 30 yeah man if i could only made the five before 30 i mean she's number one she's jumped up to number one on griff's pasta dinner list i'll say that and i'm not gonna harp on it but i'll say that um yeah alfrey water clemency is the go-to can you believe that no one picked this pick i mean i i really she's great in the movie and she's you know one of the best actresses alive agreed and the obvious thing is she's got that fucking showstopper technical skill piece yeah long shot at the end of the movie yeah that's kind of just stunning but
Starting point is 01:04:45 i the thing that pushes that performance over the edge for me the way she plays the drunk scenes is yes incredible it is some of the best drunk acting i've ever seen this is the only time i've seen someone play drunkenness as this is the only thing that opens me up to being able to actually process my emotions right yeah yeah yeah's, it's a really, that's so good. She's so good. It's, it's the thing that surprised me the most about Elfie Woodard is we all kind of love her.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't know how they couldn't have like taken that ball and run with it. Like no Christmas. They fucked it up. Yeah. I think it's neon. Just didn't have the bandwidth to with parasite being a runaway. I always forget about that angle to it. That's totally right. Neon did the right
Starting point is 01:05:26 thing. Neon had their best picture horse and they put all of their money on that and they should have. And they were justly rewarded for it. So yeah. And I think punting Portrait of a Lady to February was a really smart decision. Well their hand was forced by France.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yes. My only question is should they have just not even done the qualifying run and released it next year? If they knew it wasn't going to be, they had to do the qualifying run because it was like, all right. Critics had already decreed that a 2019. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. But, um, and it is a 20, whatever, you know? Um, no,
Starting point is 01:06:02 I do think they, they, I do think they should have released Clemency in like October. They aired that film in January. You can't release that movie that late. It's too big of an ask for people. Yeah, with it having started at Sundance. Especially with a truncated season.
Starting point is 01:06:13 It's the toughest fucking movie. But you know, this is Oscar, you know, inside baseball, but it's, yeah. All right. I mean, are we moving on to director? Are there any technicals we want to do? I feel like we usually fill those in after director and picture. couple my director is celine shama shama in portrait of a lady on fire she's not in it she made it joanna hogg for the souvenir the safty brothers for
Starting point is 01:06:38 uncut gems tarantino for once upon a time and bong Joon-ho for Parasite. Nice. Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, it's a good list. I agree. I've got Bong Joon-ho for Parasite, Marielle Heller for It's a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, Rian Johnson for Knives Out, Greta Gerwig for Little Women, and Lorraine Scafaria
Starting point is 01:07:00 for Hustlers. My best director, I have Joanna Hogg for The Souvenir, Celine Sciamma for Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Jennifer Kent for The Nightingale, Jordan Peele for Us,
Starting point is 01:07:15 Bong Joon-ho for Parasite. Very nice. Very nice. I mean, for me, it's always my top five, pretty much. Yeah. It's my five with one exception exception which you'll see in all my I think yeah I think yeah I guess maybe I can't talk about that until I talk about my top ten but
Starting point is 01:07:31 let me let me see who the blankies picked as well my winner is Celine I don't know who your winners are mine is Bong Joon Oh yeah well he was number one for them as well and then you got Greta Gerwig the Safdie brothers Martin Scorsese who's up and coming. I think it's Scorsese.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Scorsese and Celine. But Bond was their winner. All right. It's time, guys. It's time, guys. Best picture time. Yep. It's best picture time.
Starting point is 01:07:57 It's time, guys. It's best picture time. It's time, guys. It's best picture time. Are we going from 10 to 1 up? No. 1 to 10. 1 to 10? Yeah. I think from 10 to 1 up? No. 1 to 10. 1 to 10?
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah. I think. 10 to 1 always just sounds weird. But everyone, you know what? I leave it to you. I might go 10 to 1. Go to 10 to 1. But just let's all just do them independently.
Starting point is 01:08:15 We can't do it all together. No, no, no. We won't do that thing. That was a disaster. That was a bad year. Disastrous thing that's ever happened on this podcast. And I've done so many bad things on this podcast. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:22 My number 10 best picture of the year is M. Night Shyamalan's Glass. My number nine is High Flying Bird. That's a good one. Number eight, John Wick Chapter 3 Parabellum. Number seven, Uncut Gems. Number six. Wait, did I fuck this up? I fucked this up.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Yep. Okay. Number six. The Nightingale.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Number five. Toy Story 4. I fucked this up somehow mathematically. Okay. I'm going to let you guys jump ahead. I put 11 down here. I need to figure this out. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:03 All right. Figure it out. I can vamp for us yeah all right my top 10 for best picture of 2019 number 10 once upon a time in hollywood number nine a beautiful day in the neighborhood number eight the last black man in san francisco number seven portrait of a lady on fire number six her smell number five hustlers number four knives out number three marriage story number two little women number one parasites my 10 number 10 ashes pierce white number nine dark waters number eight the irishman number seven del farewell number six to add astra number five Number seven, Del Farewell. Number six, Da Ad Astra. Number five, Da Uncut Gems. Number four, The Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Number three, The Parasite. Number two, Souvenir. And number one, Portrait of a Lady on Fire. I like this list of best pictures as Seinfeld episode titles. The one where there's a farewell. Two friends version. The one where there are dark waters. The one where their knives are out.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Knives Out was close for me. Little Women, Us, Peterloo, Pain and Glory. Those are all sort of like hovering. Yeah. Hovering. The best movies of this year were really good. Yeah, very good year. I really like everything in my top 30 to 40.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Anyway, go on, Griffin. Yeah, Griffin, figure it out. I think I figured it out. Okay. I put 11 down by accident. You said that. Yes. I think John Wick Chapter 3 is the one that gets cut out. Alright. I believe
Starting point is 01:10:31 my list, this makes sense now. Go ahead. Should be Glass number 10, High Flying Bird number 9, Uncut Gems number 8, Irishman number 7, Nightingale number 6, Toy Story 4 number five portrait uh souvenir three portrait of a lady on fire you missed four portrait souvenir four portrait of a lady on
Starting point is 01:10:53 fire three us two parasite one you know you know all you have to do is put little numbers I fucked it up I fucked everything all right let me give you the blankies okay okay number 10 M midsummer number nine portrait number eight farewell number seven once upon a time number six marriage story number five irishman number four knives out number three uncut gems number two little women number one parasite parasites the king parasites the king it's good to be the king that was remind me what a great movie because i was stressing out my My number one is Portrait of Leo. That has been the movie for me all year. It rules.
Starting point is 01:11:28 It's my number three, despite me saying multiple different things at different points in time. Parasite, Us, Portrait, Souvenir, Toy Story, Nightingale, Irishman, Uncut Gems, High Flying Bird, Glass. That's my list in order. Nightingale took the end of the list by storm for you. It did. It did. class that's my list in order nightingale took the end of the the list by storm for you it did it did and uh i don't have pronounced her name but uh franchisee aisling the lead actress in that yeah would easily make the year and her name backwards aisling franceschi whatever yes yeah i believe it's you pronounced ashley like aisling is like ashley sure i i mean it is a tough it's
Starting point is 01:12:03 an irish name yeah i think that that's the best movie of the year that I would never recommend to anybody. It is so fucking punishing, but I love Jennifer Kent. She's like the discovery of the decade for me. Yeah, I like that film a lot. I think it's very uncompromising. I think Josh Cooley did a very good job with Toy Story 4, but it was very hard because there were so many hands
Starting point is 01:12:22 at different points on that movie to give him a director nomination. Right, that's one of the 60 or 70 best movies of the year. But otherwise, it's my top four. with Toy Story 4 but it was very hard because there were so many hands at different points on that movie to give him a director nomination. Right. That's one of the, you know, 60 or 70 best movies of the year. But otherwise, it's my top four. Toy Story 4 was maybe
Starting point is 01:12:29 my most pleasant surprise. As you know, Griffin, I had a great time watching Toy Story 4. And you were so ready to shit on it. I certainly was
Starting point is 01:12:38 and I have it 45th and would you like to guess what's above it and what's below it? I mean, actually rude. I wasn't expecting it to make the i mean actually rude i'm not i wasn't expecting it to make the 10 but actually made the 50 it should make the 20 no but can you guess what's right above it can i guess what's right above it no i mean what the fuck why am
Starting point is 01:12:55 i even asking you this let me wait let me guess sure if he nails this i'm gonna fucking flip. Yeah, it's true. This is number 44. Number 44 on the Sims list. Number 44 on the Sims list I think is Can you give me one tiny hint? The tiniest of hints.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Very famous director. Very famous director. I don't know. I can give you more hints. I'm blanking. Really slowing down the episode.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Give me one more hint. Yeah, I'm sorry. You gave it an award. I gave it an award? Like, right, you know, in our awards here. One of your winners. Us?
Starting point is 01:13:43 No. No, us very high for me. Us 12th okay richard jewel oh okay and then right below it the two popes got those popes right kind of rude what kind of rude but i understand you're a little biased of the forky connection at this point so i want to shout out some underrated movie i mean ad astra is a movie that is sort of it was six for me like that is is a Titanic movie. I really love Brad in it. I think it's an accessible performance from him.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I sort of gave him my one nomination over once. Just, you know, Dark Waters. I already shouted out already. Ash is purest white. If no one's seen it, has only grown for me. I've seen it three times. Ja, Jean-Claude. I'm not great at saying uh chinese name i'm pretty good
Starting point is 01:14:26 would yell at me i mean forky um forky who is speaks fluent mandarin um and uh peterloo is another one of those like get around to it guys it will be that dark water zone people didn't get into i get around to peterloo diane and i feel like there's one other big one i wanted to see before you see The Malick? I saw The Malick. I gotta see The Malick. I liked a lot. I really liked it. I did too.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I mean, and he's one of my all-time Mount Rushmore directors, and I was so ready for this to be the full force comeback for me, and I liked a lot about it, and I never crossed over into love. Whereas I have been so out on him for so long that I'm looking forward to this bringing me back to the fold. It was high on my list of screeners to see and then I was expecting it to get a cinematography nomination and it didn't and so then it sort of got shoved
Starting point is 01:15:14 down to the bottom of the pile of stuff I had to see. It is definitely good. I just kind of wanted to be knocked back in a way I haven't been since New World. I really love Synonyms, which is another sort of undersea movie. I really really love transit which i did give a screenplay nomination and um i do once again want to shout out triple frontier the fucking like cable rewatchable movie of the century is absolutely fantastic i can't wait to watch it again uh and no one talks about no one even remembers that it
Starting point is 01:15:43 exists but it rules i'm going to go open a window it's getting hot in here yeah can I give out the putters and murmurs this year can I just before we go away from best picture
Starting point is 01:15:51 yeah if anybody there listening hasn't seen Last Black Man in San Francisco it's so I think that one really went so underrated
Starting point is 01:15:57 this year and this is what I find so fascinating about the arc of Last Black Man in San Francisco which I liked and didn't love
Starting point is 01:16:06 but loved a lot of elements I would say if we're going to shout out a couple that is undeniably my score of the year and I think because we had to prep our decade as well we're not going to do as many technical categories we're just going to shout out a couple things that was one I had prepped that's best music of the year
Starting point is 01:16:22 no question hands down listen to that soundtrack all the time I think Jonathan Majors is like probably the next big dude That was one I had prepped. That's best music year, no question, hands down. Listen to the soundtrack all the time. I think Jonathan Majors is probably the next big dude. He's wonderful. He is so transfixing in that film. He was in my 10 for supporting actor. We nominated him at the Gotham. I feel like it was really hot coming.
Starting point is 01:16:37 It was not that hot coming out of Sundance. Then when the trailer started playing, people were like, oh shit, this looks amazing. Then it felt kind of muted when it came out. And then I feel like it's bumped up again end of year a lot of people standing it's a movie that some people i think are just very like you like are very you know passionate about it has it's a very passionate it's such a good mood movie like i love a good mood movie i forgot to shout out alita jesus christ oh battle angel biggest ties biggest ties yeah wait but um wait putters and murmurs i had a good one this year but i think
Starting point is 01:17:05 there's a slam dunk winner i didn't have any putters and murmurs contenders this year i've been waiting for it to come to me during our discussion oh wait a second fuck i'm now with the pressure blanking on the name and i know the fucking name and give me one second okay well obviously something else one well okay well i'm just going to talk about a few putters and murmurs that are obvious one bill camp and Camp in Dark Waters. That's my winner. I'm sorry. I blanked on Camp first. Just a whirlwind. Camp's the winner.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Camp's the winner. Camp's the winner. It's like LeBron's 2012-2013 season if LeBron was only trying to win putters and murmurs. It's like he heard the podcast. It's a naked campaigning, but it works. It's Oscar bait for putters and murmurs. Exactly. That's my winner.
Starting point is 01:17:43 For some reason, I was blanking on it. I was going to say Tracy Letts one yeah the irishman could be i know it's actually called i heard you paint houses but it could be called putters and murmurs yeah uh two let me let me see some other i mean look cooper is close he's not quite a murmurer in little women oh oh oh yes cooper the bowl of soup your bowl of soup but he's also you know he never quite murmurs he's a little too he's he's he's stammers and weepers one thing k callan in knives out as grandmama or whoever she was oh yeah here's the thing barely potters pretty stationary a lot of murmur but k callan who played mock hen on lois and clark the adventures of superman wow yeah shout out to k callan i want
Starting point is 01:18:30 to just keep bragging that i know who that actress is and that i remember her name uh she was good i'm trying to think of other people well let me say also the old guy who gets his face bastion in midsummer oh sure putters his way right off of that cliff can I say that to Fo and this may never be a category again he's not murmuring no I'll tell you what he wins he wins the toots and poots award this year he did toot a lot he's tooting and pooting
Starting point is 01:18:54 honestly look Banderas in Pain and Glory is sort of in that zone this is why I didn't give De Niro Pirates and Murmurs because De Niro wins the Mark Wahlberg Award for the year, which is,
Starting point is 01:19:09 wheel a movie into existence, produce it, play the lead role maybe as well as you've ever played anything or at least played anything in a long time. And everybody else
Starting point is 01:19:17 gets nominated. You just serve the fucking film, Wahlberg and the fighter. Yeah. You get your nomination only for picture. Yeah. You get your producer nomination,
Starting point is 01:19:26 the quiet hero of the film. The quiet film. He's so good in that movie. He is very good in that movie. I am just sort of like searching around to see if there's someone I forgot. Jordan Peele existential carnival based horror film
Starting point is 01:19:41 of the year. Oh yeah, absolutely. It's a tie between us and Toy Story 4. He year oh yeah absolutely it's a tie between austin toy story four he is in it it's a tie isn't it i'm sorry it's a tie uh i don't know who's gonna win next year but this year it was a tie yeah yeah well you know you know you never know who's gonna win next year existential carnival film uh i i guess i'm i i just i have this feeling that i'm forgetting one person yeah i feel like i had some other joke awards that I'm forgetting now. Well, maybe not.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Joe, do you have any, well, I mean like, yeah, there are any like, so for me score, for example,
Starting point is 01:20:12 Oh, I wanted to shout out, well, uncut gem. This is a great score. Last black man in San Francisco. I do think they plot was very locked in for little women. I do think Mika Levy remains,
Starting point is 01:20:24 uh, you know, sort of a must hear composer and her work on manos is incredible uh and i liked the dueling scores in marriage story i like my i did i like i really like his dueling scores yes dueling banjos but you know randy celebrities randy's on his uh on his game. What other good score? Parasite has a really good score. I'll admit I'm stealing this as a very MTV Movie Awards category. Let's hear it. It's a great score. Gnarliest supervillain.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Okay. Oh, okay. Ready? Thanos in Endgame. Sure. Pennywise in It Chapter 2. Sure. Ricky T in Retired Bits. Sure. The Actual Bomber in Richard Chapter 2. Sure. Ricky T in Retired Bits.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Sure. The actual bomber in Richard Jewell. Right. And, of course, Olivia Wilde in Richard Jewell. And the winner is Olivia Wilde in Richard Jewell. The greatest intergalactic supervillain of all time. Wow. The part in that.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Her performance, it was very dialed up. It was interesting. My favorite thing about that thing in Richard Jewell is. I should have said mcavity and cats rather than the bomber richard jewel i kind of fucked up my own joke right i mean mckellen and cats also going for putters oh yes i mean i mean mckellen and almost anything these days as he was the original winner for mr holmes yeah he had a little bit of a spring in his step with uh that's why the good liar he does he does a little bit of a spring in his step with the good liar. He does a little bit of enunciating.
Starting point is 01:21:46 I'm sorry. Best cat of the railway train goes to Skimble Shanks this year. All those years of handing out best cat of the railway train finally got it. It was a very, very tough year. Anthony Hopkins is trying really hard
Starting point is 01:22:01 in the two posts, but I heard they cut out all of his cat of the railway train material. Right. That was a whole sub arc. Best orange soda in a film does go to the two posts. Best actor playing a Pope who says, Hey, that's my pizza is Anthony Hopkins.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Yes. It's three Oh six. I realized I'm six minutes late to the fast and furious live stream. I'm hoping they didn't open with the trailer. I don't think they did. Twitter is not alive. Twitter is not alive with a, with buzz for that another uh here worst here's my worst putters and murmurs okay this is i'm sorry to say it meryl streep in the laundromat stop it i don't like her in that mode yeah i don't like her in the mode she's in when she's like sort of doing
Starting point is 01:22:42 her slightly haunted like older lady thing she's doing she's also puttering and murmuring and little women to be honest she is more of a she's fun it's not quite murmuring she's getting she's arch but then also like you know Meryl Streep in the brown face no thank you
Starting point is 01:22:59 I like that movie and I can't really were we meant to be surprised by that by the end? I don't know. It's very obvious. It's one of those performances where you immediately go, this is someone in makeup. And then once you get to that level,
Starting point is 01:23:13 it doesn't take you very long to be like, Oh, I have another, there we go. I just remembered Rob Morgan in just mercy. Oh, an incredible, an extremely good performance and a big putters and murmurs.
Starting point is 01:23:24 But that is the only problem with the movie honestly is that he's so good he's so good out of the movie right exactly and tim tim blake nelson is a best you know is almost best scene chewer and then here's what i'm gonna throw out tommy lee jones and ad astra oh yeah is it is it that he's just so he puttered his way all the way to like the edges of space? He might be a little more of a sweaters and fredders though.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Like he's in space fredding while wearing a good sweater. Sweaters and a fredder. He's a sweater and a fredder. I love it. Okay, I'm watching the concert now.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Ludacris is on stage. Oh, boy. He looks like he's having a great time. Well, I think do we have anything left to say? About the films of 2019 no not really uh i think lost black man san francesco would also be my best cinematography
Starting point is 01:24:12 winner i think it's a beautiful looking film adam newport barrow is probably the cinematography winner is uncut gems that is the most incredible looking movie it is uh ad astra has great obviously great cinematography ed lockman's dark waters uh work is very underrated much so um uh but yeah no let's move on except um oh wait over here ben have any oh we got some better words uh hey yeah i've been here the whole time how long we've been running when what's our where are we at we're at about an hour 20 ish really whoa we've blasted through this really that that little yeah i guess you're right yeah you're right what do we usually do i feel like these episodes are usually so fucking long here's what we usually do talk through every single nominee
Starting point is 01:24:56 like fucking insane i think we're also stressed out because we have to do the decade as well and we're freaking out about those choices well I'm excited about the choices. I'm terrified of my own choices. Ludacris is wearing a shirt Yeah that's an evergreen drop. Ludacris is wearing a shirt that says fake moon landing no stars in the sky.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Oh he's really coming out as a truther? Maybe. I don't know. I don't know what's going on here. This is happening in Miami which I was really considering putting all of my effort in to try to go to this concert aside from the fact that we're glad you didn't do that yeah our record date i also was in florida last week for the whole week and i was like i'm not gonna go to florida two successive weeks in a row i did my sad family visit i'm not gonna fly back five days later to see luda but
Starting point is 01:25:43 god this looks like fun um i'm sorry gonna fly back five days later to see luda but god this looks like fun um i'm sorry were you saying something david no uh setting up mr ben well it's it's that time in the blankies episode at the end of the episode we all i'll give out my own original awards i have my own categories and so uh we're just gonna get into it let's do it all right so every year i've brought this one back it's films that should be remade with either babies animals or puppets of course also Right. And now clowns too. Now clowns too. But maybe a robot or two could be cool. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Okay. All right. So for babies. Yeah. How about the baby Irish man? Yeah. Right. D.
Starting point is 01:26:35 D. Age all the way. Consistently. I like the idea of tiny little criminals and gangsters. It's funny. A little mustache. A little mustache. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Drew onto their little cute faces yeah and i think de niro could crush moving like a baby i think it would be completely convincing his body language yeah all right for animals how about the lion king remake it yeah with real animals yeah great just go roar yeah right right go full roar just go john febber was mauled yesterday right trying to tell simba a little more passion i know we totally trash that movie you just can't wait to begin i know we trash that movie for a great many reasons but at the end of the day my biggest complaint is that no one got scalped while making that film you can feel the lack of scalpings while washing it okay ben sorry all right for puppets all right the souvenir right i feel like it would
Starting point is 01:27:32 make it kind of like this commedia del arte kind of thing do you know what i mean like i can picture it little puppets i see that like a little one of those classy european puppets that's what i'm talking about like marionettes yeah yeah exactly like fine craft shadow work it's like it's really beautiful um so yeah um for fruit it's also kind of one of those things you see and you're like well i mean i'm glad i saw i don't know if i liked it a lot of craft a lot of craft sure okay for fruit maleficent mistress of evil or fruit oh so you're saying like she could be the movie's tension hinges on whether she is the mistress of evil or the mistress of fruit well i actually didn't take it that way but i like that it's just the way you said
Starting point is 01:28:18 how did you i was thinking you were just thinking of fruit. It's just fantasy fruit. Okay. Okay. It's a whole kingdom, but like the rules have changed now. Everyone's fruit. Is she fruit as well or is she reigning over fruit?
Starting point is 01:28:32 She is dark bruised fruit. She's dark bruised fruit. Yeah, because she's mean. What kind of fruit are we talking about? Like a guava? What would she be?
Starting point is 01:28:41 A pear. A pear. A real bruised pear. A real bruised pear. A bruised pear. They do bruises a lot.ises like yeah all right so this one is pretty controversial this next one guys so oh no a boundary is about to be pushed yeah okay hold on to your boundaries okay this is why they say never host the blankies because you're going to get canceled after the blankies. So for clowns, what if
Starting point is 01:29:08 there was a world in which the wasn't the only clown. Everyone was clowns. How twisted would that be? The whole city is clowns.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Can you imagine? I'm sorry. A city of clowns? Sounds you imagine? Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. A city of clowns? Sounds like Washington, D.C. Whoa! Whoa. Just pointing something out.
Starting point is 01:29:33 So wait, wait. Is it set in Congress? Is that where the film is? Is it all set on the Senate floor right now? So Ben, what are you pitching? Like a dark comedy? Because it sounds a little bit like the news to me. Todd Phillips'
Starting point is 01:29:48 C-SPAN. Todd Phillips' Best Direct Genominy. Yeah. Okay. You know what? No robot this year. Instead, Knives Out, right? But I want it to be Chains. Chains Out. Because I'm'm into chains this is a new
Starting point is 01:30:06 thing for me so it's still like decorative chains still with humans it's just hasn't changed just the murder the problem is chain centric it was like he's like oh no i took the wrong medicine here take this bicycle chain and really wallop we made it me with it until i'm dead he kills himself with a chain yeah okay all right. Sounds well off the chain to me. Text F9 to 97979. I gotta see what this is. So they're asking you to do function 9 on your computer?
Starting point is 01:30:34 Not yet. What if new laptops came out with the function keys? And if you hit the function key, just that movie would play. So you hit F7 and Furious 7. Oh my god. Furious laptops. I love it. I think Vin's about to come out.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Oh boy. Tyrese Gibson mute that shit. Introducing the family one by one. Tyrese wearing a beautiful ice cream colored blazer and white pants. Weird Miami uniform. The man who put the family together. The one and only Vin Diesel. Woo! Woo! Woo! Who's emceeing this event uh i think it's maria de menudos oh sure yeah is that
Starting point is 01:31:13 her name yeah maria de menudos yeah we're watching on oh my god he's wearing an ff9 jacket ff9 yeah which is not the title no three of them wearing white pants on stage in january there's vin diesel this is how this episode becomes normal blankies right we're just watching an ipad right now is being picked up on the mic what if if Michelle Rodriguez... I mean, we probably really shouldn't technically, but... Great. But just tell everyone what's happening.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Let's hope that they drop the trailer so that we can end this episode with you reacting to it, with us reacting to it honestly. But yeah, let me just get through... I'm sorry, Marine Minutis' dress is gold and just says Fast Furious, Fast Furious, Fast Furious. I'm sorry, I'm very excited. I is golden. Just as fast, furious, fast, furious, fast, furious. Let Ben finish his awards.
Starting point is 01:32:06 I'm sorry. I'm very excited. I understand this is a very important thing to him. Okay. So I, of course, then also do the weddies. I give out the golden mops. What a show. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I forgot about golden mops. All right. So this year, I would say most of the picks are a little untraditional. Oh. The traditional pick is the lighthouse. Very wet. It's so wet. It's drenched in farts.
Starting point is 01:32:33 A very splashy movie. It's so splashy. It's got poo-poo splash. It's got all kinds of splash. It's got dark water. It's fluid and whatnot. Yeah. Dark water should also be a dark
Starting point is 01:32:45 horse pick. Oh, am I getting ahead of you? Here's the thing. I decided that I would then pick all the movies this year that really made me cry. Oh, you needed a mop
Starting point is 01:33:00 to the face. Yes. So like the farewell just because it's so devastating choice to work with. A mop to the face. Yes. Do you like that phrase? The farewell, just because it's so devastating and beautiful. Of course. Of course. Of course. Cats. Sure. Okay. You lost it during Memory. Memory is such a good song. Gives me goosebumps and it gets me teary-eyed. And can we all acknowledge
Starting point is 01:33:17 that Cats is simultaneously the best and worst film of the year? Yeah. Absolutely. And it can only be around just both and nothing else? Yeah. Absolutely. It's Cats. It's an A slash F. Judy. You cried during Judy? You cried at how mediocre it was? It was so mediocre.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I thought it was sad. No, of course it's very sad when I have an old Judy. Yeah, that's where I'm working. I'm not old, but I'm a middle-aged Judy. In real life, what happened to middle-aged Judy? She did not end very well. If you cried watching that movie, I got a Wikipedia page that's going to destroy you. I went bad.
Starting point is 01:33:52 You like Judy, alright. I like Judy. And then, finally, the Mulan trailer. Oh, baby! That got me good. I'm so into the Mulan. Every time. Let me cry as in the heights. That got me good. I'm so into the Mulan. Every time. Let me cry.
Starting point is 01:34:06 It's in the heights. It's so embarrassing. Oh, every time, David. Every single time. And not only just like three separate points in that trailer. It's a nice piece. He's been waiting like 15 years to make his fucking musical John M. Chu. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:23 His first film he ever set up was a Bye Bye Birdie remake. Nice. And that never got made. And every film he's made since then, he's tried to cash in with a full-blown musical. I think it's going to be so good. It looks so good. Also, Michelle Rodriguez is wearing tiny, tiny little sunglasses. And I can't tell if they're backpack straps or like shoulder holsters like a cop has.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Okay, what if Michelle Rodriguez... But she looks like Trinity. What if Michelle Rodriguez just stops the whole thing and decides that she's going to take over and I'm going to announce Widows 2? That'd be great. Widow is dollar sign. What if Fast 9 is a Widows
Starting point is 01:34:57 Fast and Furious crossover? Until Viola Davis just parachutes into this Miami stadium. That would be cool shoes oh now they're showing a behind the scenes montage okay so we got some time till the trailer okay great so let me just get through my um no thank yous all right the two popes enough popes too many zero popes is that what you're saying no zero yeah absolute zero popes okay absolute zero pokes okay 1917 too old too far back you want a movie called 2017 yeah right now you've got my interest right
Starting point is 01:35:33 right right motherless brooklyn this is actually real okay my good friend is a stuttering advocate and was very offended by the movie yeah yeah yeah fair enough yeah yeah i think that's fair yep um portrait of a lady need more fire so you just wanted like maybe even forget the portrait it's just like everyone's just it's like that stuntman who's on fire in a movie like just walking around yeah you think every walk they went on should have been for Kindling yeah basically my favorite part of Portrait of the Lady on Fire was recognizing
Starting point is 01:36:08 Valeria Galino in like her final scene when she came back on screen I was just like that's who that is yeah man she's good in that movie
Starting point is 01:36:15 she is she's very good the thing about that movie is everyone's good the maid is really good best performance by a cast member from Hot Shots Part 2 one of the only people to ever win best actress
Starting point is 01:36:23 at the Venice Film Festival twice. Do you know this? Her and Shirley MacLaine? Valeria Galeno has won twice. I had no idea. And one time
Starting point is 01:36:31 she won in the last decade for a movie I've never heard of. Which Hot Shots movie was it that she won? Duh. Of course. That's a better performance.
Starting point is 01:36:37 It was like Talia Shire. Sure. Do you have any other no thank yous? Yeah, Toy Story 4. Sorry, Griff. It's just I can't. I'm too...
Starting point is 01:36:47 I haven't watched those movies in years. I haven't even seen three. Well, and it sounds like you never will. Yeah. I mean, I don't see any reason why I would ever need to watch Toy Story ever again. The reason is patreon.com slash blank check. Wait, what? All right. The reason is patreon.com slash blank check. Wait, what? Alright, so lastly, honorable mentions
Starting point is 01:37:10 again to the Safdies, but this year for Uncut Gems, for Scumbum Reef. Very good. For achievement in scumbummery. Climax for the best voguing scene of all time. Purse now for being punk as fuck. And the Beach bomb for being ben's current
Starting point is 01:37:27 lifestyle award yes okay right right that has been the fifth annual ben's award did we have a robot no robot i it was just the robot now it's chains now it's chains okay chains out ben do you have any like special awards like sometimes at the oscars they'll give out like a technical achievement or special work irving j thalberg award right like not every year but sometimes toy story first computer animated film they gave it a special award sometimes a special thing happens right is the five year that's true like blankie so it's sort of special. It's tough to make the five. Yeah, and it's tough
Starting point is 01:38:08 to make the five. Alright, I do actually have something, if you'll just give me one moment. You could vamp. Oh, sure. Thank you so much. I'll describe what's happening in the live stream. Maria Menoudos, they just played this clip of like behind the scenes, like EPK interviews from all the films. They're really ramping up the sense of inevitability
Starting point is 01:38:23 to this movie, which, Oh, she just screamed, which makes me think that maybe the trailer's coming or maybe another musical acts going to come on stage. There's something's going on on the screen. I think, fuck I am.
Starting point is 01:38:33 I actually had a hard time sleeping last night. Okay. So for David Sims, Oh, David achievement in hotness of 2019. I award him this piece of fashion. Oh my God. Fashion.
Starting point is 01:38:51 Ben is handing me a sleeveless flannel. Is that how best to describe it? Aflade. But it's sleeveless. It's sleeveless. Because, David, I'd like to, on the record, let our listeners know and you know
Starting point is 01:39:06 that you are now being rebranded as bad David 2020 you've nailed hot and now you're bad now you're bad you're a bad boy bad David 2020 oh I love it my god
Starting point is 01:39:23 guys it's actually a really good fit. It's a really good fit. This is a very good look. Oh, shit. Imagine if I dressed this way. Imagine. I don't need to imagine.
Starting point is 01:39:34 I'm looking at it. I'm saying. Imagine all the people. I don't know. Maria Menoudos is just taking the camera into the press tent. I don't know what's happening here. Is she vamping? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:39:43 I don't know. It feels like they shouldn't have to pad this out this much all right well anyway that was fun good one guys a great one where did you get this it actually fits me i know i'm not easy to find a good fit for you it's um r13 is the name of the designer wow uh really cool stuff kind of like a grungy kind of vibe to it. Love it. Check out their stuff. Miriam Mavis is walking through the crowd and high-fiving people.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Yeah. Oh, boy. What is happening? They had like six acts listed. Like, there were supposed to be like six musical acts. So far, I think only Ludacris has performed. Griffin, I don't think this trailer is dropping for another hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Okay, should we just end this episode? Yeah, I think it's time for us to wrap it up. But we did good. Now we're at about an hour 40. about an hour 40 so we're killing it and and everything that happened in the last 15 minutes was really good yeah yeah no everything you did was great and i kept on padding it out by thinking that the trailer was about to just interviewing some fucking guy who looks like me now just randos joe is there anything i mean obviously this has oscar buzz we gotta talk about it this had oscar buzz podcast me and chris file every week we're talking about uh movies that
Starting point is 01:40:51 wanted oscars loving embrace and got its cold shoulders i got an episode on the book should i say what i'm gonna cover yeah why not fucking charles shire 2004 remake of alfie we're gonna have a good time with griffin in the future i told people it was gonna sweep i believe he calls his penis big ben in that movie oh boy yeah it's just one of those movies that just a total misread of what it's supposed to be and its star yes and i fell for it exactly where they like see juban they're like they want this guy to be cockier right right he's such a rogue that's not what we wanted no she loves a nice boy she does mispronounce chapter okay well thank you all for listening please remember to rate review subscribe thanks to producer rachel jacobs for editing yes she's gonna have to bleep out a specific retired bit no she doesn't
Starting point is 01:41:38 have to jesus don't make her do it okay ben's gonna have to bleep out a certain retired bit ben's saying no he's holding up a chain and threatening me with it god these are the chaniest awards we've ever done it is they truly were off the chain thanks to ang for gudo for social media thanks to lane mccurry for our theme song joe bonaparte rounds for our artwork and go to blankies.red.com for some real nerdy shit bad next week we're back into demi right next week i believe is the truth about charlie with david lowry okay so get ready for a little truth telling in my head in my head really fun episode we already dropped a clip
Starting point is 01:42:15 from it on our philadelphia episode larry's a great example of uh we never see him outside of when he's on the show with us and so so we end up talking about everything because it's our one chance to hang out with him as well. I interviewed him once. Good guy. We ended with a segment where we try to predict what the box office will be. I love it. The weekend that the episode drops.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Oh, I love it. We recorded the episode, I think, five months in advance. I love that. And I believe two or three of the movies we predict no longer are being released. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out of that weekend we predict no longer are being released. Yeah. Out of that weekend. Get ready for that segment. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:48 And as always, I'm genuinely having a panic attack waiting for this trailer. So I'm ending this episode right now. All right, fine. Go Patreon for best of decade. Yep. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Bye.

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