Blocks w/ Neal Brennan - Jo Koy
Episode Date: November 16, 2023Neal Brennan interviews Jo Koy ('Live from the LA Forum' + more on Netflix) about the things that make him feel lonely, isolated, and like something's wrong - and how he is persevering despite these b...locks. ---------------------------------------------------------- 00:00 Intro 1:28 Neal’s grudge 6:30 Mentally Ill Brother 15:42 Upbringing 18:57 Divorce 21:02 Can’t Touch His Neck 38:15 Can’t Sleep 59:25 Sleep Apnea 1:10:12 Doesn’t Like Patterns on Clothing 1:13:17 Addicted to Shopping 1:27:19 Upside 1:30:00 Dream for Himself ---------------------------------------------------------- https://nealbrennan.com for tickets Watch Neal Brennan: Blocks on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81036234 Theme music by Electric Guest (unreleased). Edited by Will Hagle ---------------------------------------------------------- Sponsors: GameTime App Code: BLOCKS for $20 off your first purchase MeUndies.com/NEAL for 25% OFF + Free Shipping DrSquatch.com/NEAL for 3 Free Bar Soaps + Free Shipping #podcast #comedy #standup #jokoy #interview #mentalhealth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Let's do some blocks.
You can't sleep.
I can't, man.
You don't like patterns on clothing.
I fucking hate it.
Can't touch my neck.
Yeah.
What does that mean hi everybody it's me neil brennan this is the blocks podcast where we talk about what's wrong
with people and then we heal the earth and uh it's pretty great people love it my guest today
is a guy who i secretly held a grudge against which which we'll talk about. Oh, man. That's your block.
You get that.
Trust me.
That's one of my main blocks.
I held a grudge against you for...
He was a feature,
heavily featured on Chelsea Lately
and The Tonight Show.
I'm so happy to be in New York.
This is great.
And then he started getting his specials on Netflix.
He pretends it was a hardship.
It's just a pass,
and then they pick it up.
I had all the cameras in the building. I had i had the director had the producers all in the building we're ready to shoot
and we get a phone call from netflix and go and they were like hey we heard you're about to shoot
the special we just want you to know we really don't want it he acts like he fucking was climbing
up mountains to get on netflix it's three phone calls um for you for you white man
no fuck for you white man no please you got past it wasn't you act like and then they said never
here's they came out and punch me in the back you got i get bad intros um that's my block um the uh
it's joe coy everybody thank you a round of applause here's my grudge again here it will get
i you'll like this story because it's all right so this is probably 2008 or 9 yeah i was doing
fallon and i wanted to work out my set yeah and i saw it the improv you were doing like a
headlining gig and i know i was laughing it was at no no it was at the improv it was yeah
and uh and and you you wouldn't let me do five minutes for you you can't see you can't say that
it's what happened so then i was like oh fuck this guy yeah not even a hard fuck you just like
a kind of a fuck you yeah and i probably held that grudge five years nope then i listened
then i listened i was on satellite radio i listened to one of your bits i was like this
fucking guy's funny i can't i can't i can only grudge so even i can only grudge so hard if
somebody's funny it's kind of like not all is forgiven but it forgives a lot which is most most comedians whole life plan which is
like i'm an asshole but i'll be funny yeah you're gonna hate me i'll get you with the funny yeah um
so yeah so i'm i'm very happy i'm not even a little surprised by your popularity on netflix
and now you do arenas didn't have for five. So good job, Joe. Congratulations. I'm going to hug you.
Are you really?
Yeah.
Look at this.
Look at this.
You too, buddy.
You're great.
You're fucking great.
I love you.
Yeah.
That means a lot.
You know what I mean?
Coming from you.
And I'm glad that's, you know, and I'd love to explain myself.
Go.
Because 2008, I just moved here.
So getting stage time was so hard i was working
three in 2008 i was working three jobs by the way i i just had my son great i mean uh and then i i'm
working at nordstrom rack borders books and i'm cleaning yachts at the marina del rey uh all all
all together yeah i mean so I'm not getting any yacht.
They were, that was the one that was paying the most.
And, uh, they would pay me like, I think $15 an hour, but it was only for like four hours.
You go out at six o'clock at night and you get back by 11.
You know what I mean?
You do it by yourself?
No, there was a, there was a whole staff and you clean.
It's like they, they rent them out for parties, private parties for like four hours five hours at the most and uh and literally i would just race to the laugh
actor or the improv if i had time if they gave me stage time i'm racing to get there and um
and i'm wearing my outfits you know i mean or if i have some crappy clothes and you wear a captain's
hat when i remember i had a captain's hat so you should have known that i have some type of authority doing something yeah you should understand but um but and not it was just like
bro i haven't even seen my son you know no it wasn't it was it it was it it was 09 i'm remembering
now and it was uh your manager was like no they're not it was like an industry showcase they were
like they're not gonna wait around all night i again it maybe it was're not it was like an industry showcase they were like they're not
gonna wait around all night i again it maybe it was you maybe it was him yeah it was one of these
things where we'd met before and you were very complimentary i was like you're fucking good
so again all is forgiven because it was like i i'm i totally i i get i don't like fucking people
bumping me yeah and i wasn't i was bumping
you for five minutes but it's still like it's still like a pain in the ass but you also
understand you got to tell everybody your listeners in especially around that time
2009 i don't want to tell you who the the big names were at that time but they were consistently
bumping people and when they would bump them it would be 45 minutes to an hour.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
I get it.
And you came into the scene from the East Coast.
It was clear that I was doing a Fallon set.
And a lot of them were clear.
A lot of them were clear.
You got burnt on that ex?
I got burnt on that a lot.
And I don't want to say his name,
but there was one that was very consistently
bumping me yeah and just 10 minutes show and i'm like all right and that that's the 10 o'clock show
and here i am going up at 115 in the morning yeah and it's like really i'm not complaining
because i just want my stage time you're just not gonna let it happen again yeah um don't complain
just just take action don't get mad get even at somebody
else for for what did you i'll bleep it i'm gonna believe it i am gonna bleep it um all right so
all right so i don't know i know that you were married i just what most of what i know from you
i know of you i know from your act so i know you're married. I know you have at least one kid. One kid, yeah.
And I know that you have sleep apnea.
Bad.
And your mom cannot say Joseph.
Yeah.
She says Joseph.
Yeah.
Which I, again, don't have a Filipino mom.
Yeah.
But I heard the bit. But you have a mom.
I have a mom.
That's right.
But I heard the bit and I was like, not Filipino.
I know this is funny.
Yeah.
It was just like automatically
funny and i remember hearing you on marin talking about uh having some mental illness in your family
and that sounded excruciating yeah um hell hell then hell is not even like the best description
it was it was living hell what to give some. Like, imagine having this whole room with eggs.
Specifically, you had a brother who was mentally ill.
Yeah.
And just eggs.
And they tell you, don't crack one.
Now go walk.
And I know that's so.
Yeah.
It was just me like, what's going to happen today?
Older brother, younger brother.
Are the cops coming?
Is dad going to get punched? Older? Yeah younger brother. Are the cops coming? Is dad going to get punched?
Older?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, because that's not good.
I mean, then he's got that older brother authority and he was bipolar.
I don't even think that had anything to play with it.
He was just-
The diagnosis was-
It was on a dime, bro.
On a dime, you could have a conversation like this.
And I'm telling you, my brother is so fucking funny man yeah he is so funny like the humor in our family is just it's beautiful you
know and like all of us are just so funny we get it we we love to laugh and my brother is just that
guy when you hear my brother laugh it's it's so infectious because it's one of those gut
gut laughs that come from the deep belly and And then boom, it's like that.
And now he's looking at you, like looking through you.
And now he's talking about some spy investigation
that he's doing.
Yeah, no, he's getting ready to do some spy work in Russia
and just be calm, don't answer the phone.
And it's just like, damn, I had my brother for a second.
You know what I mean?
Would it be 50-50?
Would it be like throughout the day?
Or would it be mostly? No, it'd be non-stop it would just be non-stop yeah so you get occasionally you'd get
glimpses but as much you would get a glimpse that he would open that window and just say hi
real quick and then boom close that window and then and what was the diagnosis you know for for
years i you know you gotta remember it was just crazy like in the 80s and 90s, that's what it was.
And there was no such thing as therapy, by the way.
It was just medication.
It's like, oh, here's the bills, which were making them more crazy.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
And I hate using the word crazy.
And I don't want people to send letters in or anything like that.
My brother is a beautiful guy.
He's disabled mentally.
And people need to understand there's a time just like you said there's a time
like we were in the 80s and 70s man that's what they that's what they were calling him he's crazy
yeah you know i mean put him in the mental institute here let's give him some pills here
this will calm him down this will numb his brain yeah you know what i mean and my brother's like
what 16 17 let's numb his brain with some more stuff and yeah and and what happens is get get a kid to take
his vitamins every day now you want to take medication every day he ain't doing it yeah
boom it's like it's like that how much older was he oh my brother is eight years older than me okay
yeah so you're like little he's bigger than you yeah when his first episode the one that was
really bad uh was in Illinois.
And I still remember to this day.
You know what I mean?
I remember him screaming.
I remember them putting me in my mom's room, in my mom and dad's room.
I remember the cops coming.
I remember all that. And I mean, I was literally what?
He must have been 12, 13.
I was probably three or four.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I remember it vividly, Neil.
In what way? Like just burnt. Like I I mean? And I remember it vividly, Neil. In what way?
Like just burnt.
Like I remember the yell.
I remember him screaming.
I remember my mom talking to him.
And before that,
he had been like relatively stable?
Yeah.
He was,
he was,
I knew he was doing weed.
I knew he was rolling joints.
And,
and that's another memory
that's burnt in my brain
because I feel so guilty about it.
But I remember him rolling joints and putting it in a shoe box
and hiding it in his closet.
And I remember him saying, don't say anything to mom and dad.
And it kills me because I got one of these DNA things,
whatever it's called.
I went to one of those homeopathic doctors
and they gave me one of those DNA things where they could read your chart.
Yeah. And, and this, this kills me every time when I tell it, but she was going through it
and I'm already, I'm in doubt. I'm like, what are you looking at? You're not going to figure
me out by looking at these numbers. So I was already like not wanting to do this. I'm just
trying to find some kind of alternative. And she goes, do you smoke weed? And I go, I go occasionally, you know, if it's around,
I don't buy it, you know what I mean?
But if it's around and people are talking, yeah, I'll do it.
And she goes, you might want to stop.
She goes, you see this right here?
This is a schizophrenia gene.
And it feeds off of THC.
Like it thrives off of it.
It blows up if you take this.
So you might want to stop and i i started crying
i'm surprised i'm not crying right now this is recently yeah well no no it's like five years ago
it's like five years but i i mean neil bro i doubled over i started bawling because immediately
boom don't tell mom and boom you know what i mean boom and now i'm like. And boom, you know what I mean? Boom. And now I'm like, it's my fault.
You know what I mean?
It's my fault.
I should have said something.
Yeah.
Because if they would have taken that away,
this wouldn't, you know what I mean?
This would have never happened, you know?
And I started bawling.
I called everyone in my family.
I told my son, like, please don't.
Like, we have it.
We have it.
Yeah.
It doesn't mean you're crazy but your brain
wants to be crazy your brain is triggered and wired and ready it just needs to be plugged in
yeah and uh so that that's something i always tell my son you know especially now you know he's 20
now but when he was in high school i knew he was around it and i'm like you know how did you deal
with that like i don't know i thought it was normal neil but no no i'm
saying with your kids with your kid and weed are you like he doesn't do it though okay and i've
been blessed right yeah i've been really blessed because i know people whose kids were smoking a
lot and they were kind of like it's legal now i don't know what the fuck to do about it yeah you
get edibles there's like shit they can sneak yeah and. And my dad, edibles are the worst, by the way.
Don't do it, you guys.
Don't do it.
But my dad, you know, one thing I love about my dad is he goes, the one thing that you can take from all of this, the one good thing you can take from your brother.
And he goes, and this isn't something that I'm, you know, celebrating, but you kids don't do drugs.
And I think his actions make you have this inner fear.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You were traumatized.
Yeah.
And he goes, and you got that for your brother.
And he goes, if there's anything that you can give your brother, like a huge thank you to, is that.
And I get it.
I get what my
dad's saying by that like yeah he went through all of this my brother but what he did it made
us not want to be yeah that happened with my my dad was an alcoholic yeah none of us drink yeah
or like eight out of ten don't or whatever it's like it just is not, I saw it. I saw what happened.
Yeah.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I don't need to participate in that.
I think that's why I have, like, I don't have, like, if I am going to drink, and I'm not
going to say I don't drink, but it's never any, like, I can do, I can go all day today
and not go, oh, I need a drink.
Yeah.
Like, it's just not even my thing.
It's just, so yeah yeah that's all for my brother
and and i and i and that's why it was so important neil to bring my son to the hospital to visit my
brother when he was young i i had to make that journey and i and i wanted him to meet my brother
you know and he loves his uncle robert you know what i mean yeah and he's your brother is hospital
or institution you know he goes in
and out my here's the thing about uh i'm just gonna talk about my i'm not gonna generalize
i'll talk about my brother yeah he's mentally disabled but but boy he knows how to work the
fucking system man like a genius you know i mean yeah and i'm just like well, why is that part of the brain so wired correctly?
He works the system, bro, to a T.
He knows how to get back in.
He knows how to get help.
He knows how to go here.
He knows if he does this, he'll get –
Does he know how to get out?
The judge will put him in.
Oh, he knows.
He knows good behavior to get him out.
He knows it.
It's all clockwork, bro.
And then they'll put him in a group home.
Then eventually he'll get out.
And then he's like, all right, I can't do it on my own bam let me do this again back and it's just whenever i deal with mentally ill people or or consider mental it seems like there's a steering
wheel and just people like and then they're at the wheel yeah their spirits. In their head, yeah. And so your brother has this guy
who's super sort of canny and intelligent,
and then the other guy, the sort of more reckless guy,
and it just seems like to be ongoing.
Yeah, and he can't shake it.
Yeah, it's just what it is.
And it seems like it's just bad luck.
Yeah.
Because with mental illness like that that it's a true pick
your poison thing of like the the medication's awful yeah but so is the illness yeah so just
pick yeah what and they go back and forth yeah it seems like that all right would you was your
dad your dad's around oh yeah oh your dad's all your parents stayed together no no no they're
divorced they divorced really really, really young.
Great.
Really.
It was like I was nine when they finally made it official, but it was bad from the beginning.
You know what I mean? And I think it had a lot to do with my mom's ethnicity.
You know what I mean?
And I know for a fact, but I don't want to.
Yeah, I just know.
You know what I mean?
I'll write my own story.
But there's a reason why I don't know anyone on my dad's side of own story but there's a reason why i don't know
anyone on my dad's side of the family there's a reason why uh i didn't receive gifts and my you
know my mom and dad when they married my mom already had two kids so that's my step that's
robert mom yeah she already had robert and rowena which are my you know my sister and brother but it
was you know from another man and this is in the 70, you know, from another man. And this is in the seventies.
Bro, sixties, bro.
Sixties.
Not that popular.
No, man.
So when he came back, you know, you got, you got this white family, you know, from Buffalo,
you know what I mean?
And, oh, really?
You brought home a refugee?
Yeah.
A couple of refugees?
Yeah.
And God bless my dad because he loves he loves him so much you know
what i mean right and what a great man i feel like he's an angel because during those times
was a horrible time you know what i mean like for him to do something like that is like he was ahead
of his time yeah he really was and and he had a family that wasn't really supportive of that
but i'd also like to point out white people weren't differentiating between the types of asian back oh no they still are just asian but back then vietnam was happening
oh yeah i bet that got brought up fairly oh yeah a lot you know and and and you're right and i mean
and just imagine the programming that we're watching you know i mean imagine being a half
kid and i'm i'm i'm dealing with my with my identity, you know, uh, you know, in school publicly, you know, people are
looking at me weird. They don't know what I am. They see my mom, they see my dad, but then when
I'm by myself, they don't know what I am. You know, I'm trying to describe what my mom is,
you know, and they don't get it. Uh, I watch TV and you see a cartoon of you know chinese people with buckets on their shoulders
and their eyes are slanted and great cartoons great great animation and and and kids are
laughing and here i am and my mom you know they're laughing and here's my mom and that's
that's who she's supposed to be and these kids are allowed to laugh at that and it's like god
knows you would never make fun of your mother i don't make fun of my mom i give my mom a voice um but you get what i'm saying
it's a lot of like a lot of emotional shit that we're going through yeah i don't think it's i
don't think life's easy for anybody and i and i about i've always said that yeah i'm not saying
you're feeling sorry for yourself i'm just like yeah that's your this thing of anyone uh going through life even the bully at school is probably getting his dad's
beating him up or getting molette like everyone's getting being a kid is fucking awful really scary
it's the worst i was gonna ask have you been in a situation where you were not asked to raise
another kid but like been in a relationship with a woman who had a kid oh yeah and did were you okay
did you take your dad as an example i'm just gonna talk on my behalf right you know going
through the divorce and and my ex like the reason why we're best friends the reason why i take her
on trips like she's on vacation with my son, all expense paid. You know what I mean?
And it's like,
and I,
I love that because of the relationship that they're having.
And I bought her a house in front of my house.
She literally lives in front of me.
We share the same driveway.
She's it's a guard house.
Yeah.
She's,
she's watching my house when I'm on the road.
But I think what it is is I I'm overdoing it because i missed it as a kid you know right when my dad
left he left like it was phone call dad you know what i mean it was like i'm forgetting my birthday
like i remember he called me on my birthday one time and didn't know it was my birthday
he was just calling to check in like hey i'm just checking in on you kids when did it dawn on you
like oh he doesn't know were you like so yeah i waited i waited till
the end of that conversation that's another thing that's burnt in my head i tell my dad this all the
time i go and we laugh about it but he he was like oh just checking up on you kids you know
how's jemma how's school all good dad all right cool i just wanted to see if you're all right
i love you love you too dad and then i waited i go, it's my birthday. And then just the silence on the other end.
Oh my God, I'll be right there.
And then he drives, takes us to Denny's.
We go eat, hugs me, no gift.
And then leaves.
I never want my son to feel that, ever.
Like every birthday has been with his mommy and I.
Every trip, I include him.
And if I don't include her, she goes on an equal trip with him
yeah the same amount of money the same type of spoiling here you know i mean i'm not gonna make
you look bad and be like oh your mommy got it yeah she maybe she should get another job like
yeah why why the fuck are we gonna do this you know what i mean you gotta be cleaning yachts
yeah clean some yachts yeah you know i mean you want to go on vacation stock some books get some vacation
money all right let's do some blocks i feel like we've established a nice emotional uh bed for
ourselves number one well let's go right to uh can't touch my neck yeah what what does that mean you know this this crew neck is the i i bet
i just been doing this lately and it still bothers me but for years i would i would do this
where like even when i was a kid i would do this and my mom would make fun of me she would
you do that because when i was i was uh hold on make sure the number's right, eight, I'll say about eight, 70 years old, I was in the Philippines.
I lived there for six years.
And my cousin Mona, it was her birthday.
You speak Tagalog?
Oh, Giling.
Great.
That means yes.
Great.
I assumed it did.
I'll teach you.
Great.
I love it.
Say mahal kita.
Mahal kita?
I love you too.
Great. Thanks, Neil. so when i was like the second time you forced me to say i love you don't do that don't don't do that don't take
that i don't want to be an asian stereotyper you and bobby lee do disappointment in the exact same
way just just shut up right now i'm disappointed because you're taking away something very don't compare me to bobby first of all you are blocking this love i want you to unblock that
and take that back don't don't say if bobby were here he would scream no more just just fyi
take back what you just say and say i love you joe kim's of comedy all right oh jesus christ
which i turned down by the way i don't even know what were you not in the's of comedy. All right. Jesus Christ. Which I turned down by the way. I don't even know.
Were you not in the Kim's of comedy? No I turned it down.
All right. Okay. Anyway. So
I'm blocking the love. But goat your neck.
So say I love you real quick. I love you.
All right cool. So
I'm like seven. Stop.
Seven. Seven-ish
whatever. And Mona
it's her birthday. They get a goat.
They get a cute little goat.
We're playing with this damn goat all day.
And we just thought they brought a goat,
like a petting zoo.
You know what I mean?
We're just petting,
playing with the goat all day.
Mona's my cousin.
We're the same age.
It was her birthday.
And then all of a sudden,
my uncle Cardeen,
her dad,
round five,
strings the goat up by his heels, by by his back foot and puts a bucket we're all gathering around you know thinking this is gonna be cool we're like oh
he's gonna kill the goat we're like oh i'm gonna kill the goat and then slice and i lost my shit
like right now i'm thinking about it i lost my shit ran to the room crying like
fucking crying like you just murdered my friend you fucking asshole i didn't know what kill the
goat meant i didn't know you were really gonna kill the fucking goat blood squirting out you
thought it was gonna be like a smear i thought it was gonna be a funny thing okay yeah remember
smear the yeah i remember that yeah we were just openly homophobic as kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was just Smear the Quint.
How many times did you get smeared?
Because I got smeared all the time.
I mean, I think we all got smeared at some point.
I think we all got smeared.
And I traumatized, bro.
Traumatized.
Yeah, I know.
And the way it was screaming was just horrific.
And I just remember it was like my neck and then forever.
Did all the kids freak out all
mona was crying we were all crying like it was so fucked up and did he think it was kind of funny
oh they thought it was hilarious yeah that's humor for them you know i mean and that messed me up for
a year i mean to this day i'm still thinking i can't i can't wear chains i i love v-necks you
always see me with a v-neck most of the time, but I've been starting to like trying to overcome it.
I've been wearing these.
I just started buying these like maybe a year and a half ago.
Because you were so neck.
I'm trying to fight it.
Yeah, I really am.
Talking about it right now is freaking me out.
It made you sensitive to any.
If I feel something touching my neck, it sparks it right away.
That's fascinating.
It goes right back to my childhood and I see it.
Do you eat goat no i don't
eat meat my man yeah yeah so what so you what about like trying things on oh i don't mind that
just don't touch my neck anybody women kissing you nope don't touch me don't touch me at the
back of my neck don't touch the front of my neck when do you tell your sex and they put their hand right here you know how they cuddle real and i don't know i pull it right down like please don't
don't fuck this don't fuck this moment up don't fuck this moment miss stop it you're bringing me
back to the goat don't do this and did you and you well you know what's funny is you tell the
story and it's there are certain like traumas in life whatever trauma is overused but where you just go yeah i don't know i just don't like get my neck touched from now because
i saw neck i saw no it's called trauma neil quit quit saying quit down talking shit i'm down
talking joe you have to say that we're living in a world where trauma is overused you're right and over uh uh labeled and over prescribed and anyone can
say it's trauma and none of us can go what the fuck are you talking about yeah yeah but but but
you gotta admit with social media and and and the ability to everyone have a box to speak
has has done that because when we were kids it was put the fucking helmet
back on and walk back out there you know i mean yes you're crazy oh he punched you go fucking
punch him back punch him back you don't come home unless you beat yes yeah oh he bumped you well
then you bump him correct that was different that's a different trauma um no you're not wrong though but i so i
i i've been doing a joke lately about trauma because it's just a bit like
so when i hear somebody around our age talking about like no we have to what's funny is you see
it my point is you see it go get slaughtered yeah and then you're like yeah i don't like
getting my neck touched it's kind of uh a... It's called trauma, Neil.
What the fuck are you looking at there?
What's up there?
It's mild.
I have a teleprompter out there.
I'm like Marlon Brando.
It's not mild because you didn't experience the trauma.
But what I'm saying is how inconvenient was it?
And I don't even, I'm not even trauma negging you.
I'm just saying how I think that some traumas are just like okay like
i don't like getting in the head because i because i my dad whatever i violence toward me part of me
thinks it's kind of funny now yeah where i'll just like get and i'll go like immediately yeah
and not immediately identify with i think there's a way where you can experience it kind of think
it's funny not immediately go to like my hall and i'm not saying that's where you can experience it kind of think it's funny not immediately go to
like my hall and i'm not saying that's what you're doing my hall of trauma my special trauma yeah
trophy case of trauma there's that trauma but but would it be fair to say that you're saying that
now because you have you're more mature you're older you have more experience okay so yes wouldn't
your attitude
be different 20 years ago about someone touching your head or even 30 years ago i would say yes i
was very serious about yeah but what i'm saying is everyone's different with dealing their trauma
totally agree yeah what i'm saying is i think we're saying it's unfair that you're downplaying
trauma right now no what i'm giving people a path forward.
Joe, you want them to get stuck.
You want people to get stuck in there.
No, I don't want to get stuck.
Look, I told you I'm dealing with it.
But even the idea of like, yeah, I don't like getting my neck touched because I saw a goat get slaughtered.
Don't touch my fucking neck.
Right.
And you go, don't touch my fucking neck.
And then people go, just fucking stop it.
Right?
And you've gotten through it and
it's just another one of those it's like a the good part about where the time we grew up in
is there was a lot of just like yeah i don't fucking know it just that's the guy he's a little
oh he little he's a little off and we didn't pathologize and and honor it was just kind of like i think there needs to be a bit more of
like that yeah we all got something yeah and not making it such a big deal yeah i talk about that
on stage right now you know i i say that and and i i love that's what i love about our job you know
what i mean uh i always say this is like yeah i to therapy, but it's like, you know, I'm only doing that to release.
Like, I'm not going to sit there
and take this guy's word
or this woman's word
on what I need to do
because what are you dealing with?
You know what I mean?
I'm pretty sure you got some fucked up shit too.
It's the life coaching phenomenon
where you go, you're a life coach?
Yeah.
Okay.
What have you done?
I do love the opportunity
to just say some shit to someone and be able to be like okay
i got it out so i do enjoy that aspect and that's why i love stand-up because now i get to do that
tell these stories and now you get to pay me to hear my trauma or hear whatever whatever it is
that i was dealing with have you had the thing where since then when i did three mics i like got over the stuff with my dad yeah from it like i don't even think about it anymore like it's
not uh it's not a trigger it's not any of those words yeah have you had that where you've talked
about something enough where it's where you're like oh i'm sort of healed for like yeah it's so
uh i love what we're talking about right now.
You're making me feel so good right now.
I literally was just talking about it on the bus about my dad.
And I was, you know, I wasn't being mean.
I was just like, you know, doing a jab.
You know, he's not even here.
Yeah.
And my dad has been a fucking amazing guy.
He's the only one that visits my brother the most. If you ever look at the login book, it's my dad has been a fucking amazing guy he's the he's the only one that visits my brother
the most if you ever look at the the login book it's my dad yeah you know what i mean and then
you'll see an occasional my signature an occasional my sister's signature but yeah out of a thousand
it's my dad yeah you know what i mean and and it's like that's not his son you know what i mean
it's his son it's a stepson it's a stepson it's not blood he's not his son. You know what I mean? It's his son. It's his son. It's a stepson.
It's a stepson.
It's not blood.
He adopted him when he was eight, bro.
And he got his ass kicked by him when he was like 13, 14.
My brother can fucking fight, bro. Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like six, seven cops.
Like I remember them punching the back of my brother's head.
And he's got his, they just want his arms behind the back.
You got one cop here, one cop here.
They're trying to put his arms together.
Just put your fucking arms behind your back what the fuck bop bop hit him
in the back of the neck and my brother's just looking at me like they can't get me they can't
get me joe you know i mean and just like that my dad's dealing with this yeah like what that's not
even my kid like and then that's when i started like coming with my own shit i'd be like yo i
would have got a divorce too i would have left what the fuck did i just get into yep you know me so then i that's like i said
i i come in turns with my dad i'm still poking i still jab him every now and then even when he's
not around i you know but i always got to weigh the good and the bad and and and like you said
you're dealing with it like i i accept he was gone. You know what I mean?
Because I understand.
I'm still mad that he wasn't around.
You know what I mean?
And I'm overcompensating with my son.
I give him everything because I feel like I didn't get anything.
So it's like I'm living vicariously through my son.
It's that thing where you do like, see this, dad?
And he's not there and he can't see.
But you're like, we're on vacation.
I brought him to vacation.
Yeah, let me FaceTime you. you yeah but it's also like but he didn't have the resources yeah or he did the emotional research he did yeah there's yeah okay there are opportunities how
about this he didn't have the emotional resources yes he just those guys didn't know they didn't
man they just had no fucking idea and he was being raised by you know orphans from the war you know i mean like if you really when i know i'm not even joking
like i know his parents history and i'm like oh shit like you know i mean like okay i get it like
you know i mean your dad didn't say i love you to you i get it like yeah it was a different time
you know they came they came to this country in the 20s. It's like, all right, I got it.
And like I was saying before that, illiterate farmers.
So where are they supposed to get all this emotional intelligence from?
They had no, they'd never even heard of it.
They don't even know it.
The fuck are you talking about emotion?
Every girl we dated would say that you and I aren't emotionally intelligent or able to provide the amount of emotional support they need yeah and you
and i like think about it a lot a lot we still don't got the gifts nope so so i think we're both
saying the same thing which is like there's trauma and and you can make fun of it and i don't think
it trivializes it or minimize it or reduce it because i can speak firsthand and say i i've
talked about the good thing about comedy is it does reduce things that seem yeah so overwhelming
and just be like yeah and then everyone feels better yeah like race whatever just fucking huge
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He seems Asian, which sometimes that's enough for a concert.
There's a band called Vampires Everywhere.
Seems like they picked the wrong name because you're not going to be Vampire Weekend. And it could, maybe it's a cover band.
We don't know. Mudhoney. They were part of the mid, early 90s Seattle scene where they,
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It's ABBA.
And it's maybe the greatest.
I put it in my top five songs of all time.
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The Dice Man is at the Wiltern.
That's pretty cool.
Jeff Asmus is going to be at the Brea Improv.
That dude's really funny.
I don't know if you follow him.
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Joe, it says here that you can't sleep.
I can't, man.
I don't know what my problem is.
And I don't have insomnia.
Do you have ADD?
Oh, of course.
Of course.
Yeah.
I mean, if you eat sugar, you have ADHD, you have everything.
You're hyper.
Sugar's in my body.
I'm going to be-
I think you have it without sugar.
I bet you have it all the time.
Who are you, a doctor?
Who are you?
I have a podcast.
No, I do.
I do have, do you have, oh, you do have a podcast.
I don't, I don't have, I might have it. I don't know. I think have, do you have, Oh, you do have a podcast. Uh, I don't,
I don't have,
I might have it.
I don't know.
I think you have it.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I think,
I think people in our,
our profession have,
we have it.
Yeah.
You know,
you take all this away and put us in an office.
You would go fucking crazy.
Yeah.
You wouldn't,
you wouldn't be able to handle it.
And that's your ADHD.
You'd be like,
my brain wants to do this
right now yeah i don't have time to fucking do word perfect i don't even know what office words
what are office words it's all ai yeah word part i mean yeah that's microsoft yeah i would be in
the break room a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah you would be um i would be well you know what's funny is i
you and i was saying this to
the producer like you have a thing where i've noticed before where you college call people by
their name yeah and like neil let me like that's a did you pick that skill up or was that i don't
you are very good at thing that i'm not good at which is making sure people like you
for real like you i want to hug you i want to like individually you need to get individual people i
don't have that and i genuinely am envious of it it does seem like a waste of time though yeah
meaning like it there's i'm paying that you're paying the price in time i'm paying the price
yeah um that's your trauma you got to deal with that i'm gonna put it in my in my trauma case
put it no i i hear i think what it is here we go we're going back to trauma again great great is um
i didn't feel at home man you didn't feel liked or appreciate i just i i i felt invisible all the time like
you know i mean i my my my my dad was gone my mom was working late i'm by myself a lot you know all
i had was stand up all i would watch is stand up i was addicted yeah i would watch it non-stop yeah
and um and that was my i loved it that was i laughed all the time i love to make people laugh and and i
think what it is is i i love that feeling well you also can't i remember around that age when you
start being likable yeah and you're like this is oh it's addicting like you can really get people
to think you're funny oh yeah maybe you're slightly aware that's annoying yeah don't care
you know there was this one time uh
because we're military kids right so it's every three years you up and go right and it sucked
everyone just about everyone in the military yeah yeah so it's like whoever's in the military your
mom or your dad we're all in the military you know what i mean so it's like yeah you served we all
served you know what i mean because it sucks emotionally it's fucked up they don't need to move you move them around it's just a way of
mentally controlling them it's breaking the soldier down you know what i mean yeah don't have
too many consistent relationships don't don't bond with too many people let's separate you and
always have you is that true or that's just me that's just my suspicion i'm sure you're right
i'm just because there's no reason there's enough fucking soldiers in the world why are you moving him yeah
why did you move them yeah for for what oh we there's a guy in st louis that left so we need
to fill that spot okay hire someone in st louis yeah it doesn't make sense so yeah it's it's a
mental breakdown it's control that's all that is yeah but what happens is it breaks the family
unit down but i knew when i was really young, that was so funny. And I remember we were leaving the
Philippines and I had so many friends, man, because that was the longest we ever stayed
anywhere. It was six years we stayed there. Usually it's three or four, right? And we were
there for almost six years. Is that where he met your mom?
No, he met her, oh my God, I don't know where i he was overseas when he met
her okay so um so that's kind of good luck your mom's yeah it was beautiful you know great luck
you yeah and then you're in the phil you're manila where were you yeah we lived uh no we
lived on the base which was uh scott air force no not scott clark air force base and it was so cool
because all my mom's family lived in manila
so we would go every weekend you know and it was just oh it was so much fun best childhood memories
were the philippines not trauma it wasn't all trauma guys some of it was just good stuff the
goat the goat of course the goat and whatever story he's getting ready to tell right now yeah
and of course the movie no this is a good story okay don't don't don't talk any of this no look i'm gonna sit back
i'm just i'm look i'm gonna put these headphones why do you have them i don't know why do you have
them no it's not my studio i'm getting ready to be a fan joe all right go ahead take them off okay
take them off no but i remember that i was i was funny and i remember saying like like we had to
pack up i was so depressed that we had to leave, but I remember going, I'm funny.
Like I'm going to get new friends.
Cause I'm always funny.
Everyone thinks I'm funny.
Like, and I started getting excited to move to Tacoma because I knew I was going to be
funny.
I was like, I'm good.
You're like six or seven.
I was eight or nine, eight or nine, right around there.
But I knew I'm like, Oh, I'm funny.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I'll be good.
When I moved to, when I moved to i knew i'm like oh i'm funny i'm good yeah i'll be good when i move to when i move to i'll be good i'm funny and i i to the like i always remember
that that at that young of an age i knew i was a funny guy and i and i that is a cool thing when
you realize like oh i'll be all right i'll be fine i'll just go there and i'm assuming they
have funny they like comedy there too yeah yeah and you're figuring out the kinds of jokes you're good at.
Yeah.
I just knew I was quick.
Yeah.
Like even the adults said I was quick.
Like they always call me comedian and I didn't know what comedian.
I just thought the word comedy and this is how adults say comedy or what.
I didn't know what comedian was until I moved to Tacoma.
And then my friend who lived on the same neighborhood as me he said it he was like oh man
you're such a comedian and I go what is that like what the fuck is that you turn into Sebastian
what is what is that and then he brought me a Richard Pryor cassette tape his dad's cassette
tape and then that's when i started listening i could not stop
listening to that i remember hiding it because i was like wait my mom can't know that i'm listening
to this she then she found out i was listening to and she loved it you know i mean and and so
now i'm listening to that then we get hbo samples where they can't say enough about the free weekend
on hbo we would record it and we would masturbate
to it later.
There was a later. We would get it
for a weekend.
That's times at Ridgemont High?
Emmanuel 5, 4, 6, 7,
8, 9.
The whole Cinemax.
You would get, you'd record
a half hour comedy.
You didn't leave that weekend.
You got two videotapes. You'd watch it and record the whole time you get the videotape and you had sp lp or ep and you put it on ep
because that you get six hours that's right joe and uh and i would record every hbo hour because
that's back in the day they were the only ones that had specials and i fell in love
with everybody i mean comic relief was like huge oh yeah this is like a smorgasbord there's a buffet
of comedy but anyway that's when i saw delirious yeah when i saw delirious i'm like oh because
audio was richard pryor delirious was video i got to see what a comedian does and and i was like
that's me i'm gonna be that guy great and uh and and that's what happened i i knew right when i
get out of high school i'm gonna be a comedian and that was in vegas in 89 1989 yeah what were
you doing in vegas did that you were i didn there? Yeah, well, my grandmother had cancer,
so we all moved to be with my grandmother,
and that's why we ended up staying in Vegas.
How long did you...
I stayed in...
How long did you go for your grandma?
It was your dad's mom or your mom's mom?
It was my mom's mom.
Okay.
And so we were with her, and she lived...
Man, she fought that thing hard.
She was supposed to go right away.
That's what they said in 89. I've heard she fought cancer like your brother fought the cops is that true that's true
is that a mean callback no i love that callback great thank you very much cancer where the cancer
was the cops in her soul correct and she was fucking and she was like can't keep me she's like
you can't you're not gonna handcuff me can't handcuff me. And she fought it, man.
And we ended up staying there.
I loved it.
I love it.
What was that story you told me about getting on Comic View?
Yeah.
What was the-
Comic View was, they did this thing.
Mind you, black comedy, the movement didn't start until like-
Started in 91, 92. Yeah, but it it didn't but you weren't in the comedy
clubs unless you were bill cosby yeah i mean chris rock wasn't even being promoted at that time chris
rock was like at the river area comedy club that's where i went to watch him you know what i mean and
he was on a calendar you know what i mean like they were just cut black comics in the eight like
rock would say like they wouldn't put two black comics on the same show,
like in New York.
No,
they wouldn't put black comics in a theater.
Even if he was famous,
like it was risque.
It really was.
And,
um,
so when deaf comedy jam came to Vegas,
they weren't on the strip.
It was at this comedy club.
It was not a comedy club. It not a comedy club it was a theater
On Boulder Highway
Called Sam's Town
It was Sam's Town
A country western themed
Casino
And here's Def Jam
Which is crushing
Yeah everywhere in the world
Everywhere in the world it was such a movement
And these four guys that i'm sharing
the stage with are huge but oh you were on the show that that was fun how i got that too i i i
fought for that one too uh i i went there with a camera uh my boy honest john was on it and he goes
he goes i'm gonna i'm gonna introduce you to bob something he gonna put you on here man when he see I'm gonna tell him that you funny and
I go there with my sister
and I got my camera
Honest John's there Bob Sumner walks in you know Bob
and Bob
created Def Comedy Jam and he's like
I heard
Honest John said you're funny I'm like yeah
he was like oh he's eating like a cake
or some shit it's just all something like
yeah it's just so fucking like oh I heard you funny just fucking muffin falling out of his mouth and he's like like a cake or some shit. It's just all. Something like. Yeah, it's just so fucking like, oh, I heard you funny.
Just fucking muffin falling out of his mouth.
And he's like, I heard you funny.
And I'm like, yeah.
He's like, all right, this is what I'm going to do.
I'm going to give you five minutes before we start the show.
He goes, we're going to leave the house lights on because we're still sitting people.
And we're going to leave the curtain.
We're going to have people come slapping you across the face.
Yeah, yeah.
Every 40 seconds.
Yeah, every punchline, I'm going you get kicked in the nuts you're gonna
do great he goes beautiful set by the way it says def comedy jam it's everything that i've seen on
tv yep it's got the dj stand he goes we're gonna keep the curtains closed you're gonna crawl through
the curtains and uh yeah yeah he goes leave the house lights on because we're still seeing it
just do five we're not gonna use the microphone you gotta yell yeah yeah no even worse he goes
don't say welcome to def jam and just go i'm joe coy do your set and man. We're not gonna use the microphone. You gotta yell. Yeah, yeah. No, even worse, he goes, don't say welcome to Def Jam.
Just go, I'm Joe Coy, do your set.
And then when you're done, say good night.
And don't say enjoy Def Jam, just say good night.
You good with that?
I go, yeah, I'm cool with that.
How long you been doing Santa for this point?
And then crawl back to the current.
I'd have to say I started in 89,
so that's about eight years in,
it's about, or nine years in.
So it's about 98 98 98 really
yeah is that right i think they're still doing def jam tours in 98 it was the tour
right that's what i'm saying like tour i thought they i remember those from like 93 94 but yeah
but no no this is the tour it's not it's not the tours were in 93 94 okay yeah go ahead damn was
it 93 dude don't quote me on my ears i'm fucking
old yeah so yeah it's in the 90s yeah so uh dude so i remember like when he left uh i looked at my
sister i'm like why the fuck am i doing this yeah like what what the fuck is this like why
and then my sister's like just go just do it and then the stage manager goes hey we're at like 70
i'm gonna turn the house lights down
i'm not gonna turn them off i'm gonna turn them down so it'll be a little dark in the room he
goes but i can't keep these curtains open you know i mean it's just go through the curtain
come right back through the curtain we're gonna be right there they were so cool yeah and uh they
open up the curtain i crawl through like carol burnett you know i mean yeah i look and i'm like
hey i'm joe coibo i do my shit good night do good you do
good standing oh man they're they're stomping on the bleachers i crawl back back through
rudy rush you know rudy yeah rudy rush is standing there next to bob sumner and he's like who the
fuck is this motherfucker and he goes oh that's honest john's friend he goes why'd you put him up
before me why'd you put him in the fucking show bob he goes i didn't know he's
gonna be funny he's like what the fuck dude he's like now i now we're gonna start the show this guy
just crushed it and then he goes uh and he goes uh rudy goes he goes you watch the apollo i go
yeah i love the apollo he goes i'm putting him on the apollo because he was hosting the apollo at
that time this might be 2000 dude dude you're no i think it's 99 i maybe you're right 2000 did warm
up for chapelle show in 2002 and three so you're right or two thousand two thousand yeah don't
quote me yeah so anyway like i said it was the tour and uh yeah you're right i think it was like
2000 yeah and then uh he goes uh you ever watched the Apollo? I'm like, love the Apollo.
Are you kidding me?
By the way, this is the real Apollo.
You know what I mean?
This is where they boo you.
He goes, you're on it.
He goes, I'm going to have my producers call you.
I want you on it.
So I got on Def Jam that night.
They put me on the tour and I got the Apollo and then I won the Apollo.
My man Joe Coy.
What's up with Joe Coy?
We have a new champion.
It's my man Joe Coy. What's up with Joe Coy?
We have a new champion.
It's my man Joe Coy.
And now all that from just going there. What was your closer?
I remember you telling me your closer about,
I believe it was Asian people having sex.
No, no.
That was Comic View.
Tell me your Comic View closer.
Comic View was awesome.
Can I tell you how I got Comic View?
Please.
So I'm working at the Dolphin Habitat
as a tour guide.
Of course.
We figured.
And this one girl goes,
hey, you know Comic View's here.
I'm like, Comic View's here?
They go, live.
They're here.
They're doing a show.
And I go, where?
They had this mini casino
called Country Star,
which was country music's answer to the hard rock.
So it was like a country music Hall of Fame restaurant
with a stage.
It's called the Country Star, short-lived.
Let's put Comic View in there, right?
Once again, they're not allowed in the casinos.
So I begged my manager, let me go, please.
I just want to go watch it.
Like, I just want to watch it.
Like, I just want to be there.
I race home, put on this suit.
I didn't even take a shower.
I put this suit on.
I grabbed this fake resume that my dad made for me,
that my dad took my headshots, and I ran back.
He's back in the picture.
Welcome back, dad.
Yeah, my dad's back.
Go ahead.
Yeah, my dad's like, hey, you know,
I wasn't there when you were a kid,
but I'm going to be here for your success story.
Now the money's going to start coming in.
Yeah, I'm going to be in the books somehow.
So I grabbed this resume, and i swear to god neil when i i walked up to the front of the line this line was wrapped around the building and i walked to the front of
the line security guard and i say this all the time when when has the security guard ever helped
anybody yeah and i i go i'm a local comic i just want to do like five minutes people know who i am i just
want to do a warm-up is there any way i could talk to the promoter he goes one second man let me go
and he left and went and got evette anderson i don't know if you know evette anderson she used
to produce these things and she came to the front and i handed her my resume local comic can i just
go up and she's like oh next time but we already have all our people but next time but do you want to see a show this is my first time ever getting into a comedy show
just because i said it was a comic yeah it was so mind-blowing to me i didn't know the the system
how you guys operated i go yeah i don't have to buy a ticket no no no come on sit you can sit by
in my booth i was like what the fuck i sat down. They had this huge Canon XL camcorder.
It was massive.
I remember it was like a $6,000 camera because I saw it at Wow Electronics.
And I was just like, oh, this is official.
That's probably how they record Comic View.
You know what I mean?
I've never seen a studio camera before.
I'm just sitting next to it and I'm looking at it.
Late.
All the comics late.
Again.
I know.
We don't.
We're not going to touch it. We're not gonna touch it we're not gonna
touch black show we're not gonna touch it show started at 8 it's 8 45 if you want to pause the
podcast right now now and think of your own stereotypes and all the stuff that we can't
stop you i'm gonna say it was an eight o'clock. It's 845 when she says they're not here yet.
Okay?
But I don't have a stereotype for them either.
I'm going to say a thing that Gerard Carmichael said to me one time.
Gerard Carmichael was in Transformers 3.
Alien dinosaur!
And he said the production was very poorly run.
He's like, I've been on black comedy shows
that were more on time than this movie.
Oh, no.
So that's all I wanted to say about that.
Okay.
Go ahead.
I love the movie.
Transformers 3?
Yeah.
Is it one Gerard's in?
I don't know.
He's in one of them.
I don't know.
But it wasn't run quick.
It wasn't run expeditiously.
Thank you, TI, for bringing expeditiously into our lives.
Ran late.
None of the comics are there.
They're screaming.
The audience is like, start the fucking show.
What the fuck?
When's it going to start?
You're hearing all this.
And she walks up to me. She goes, do you want to just do like five minutes? what the fuck like when's it gonna start like you're hearing all this and she goes
she walks up to me
she goes
do you wanna
just do like five minutes
you wanna go up
and I
I looked at the camera
I go
can you record it with that
just if you can record that
it'd be the best tape
if you can record
she was like
let me set it up
sets it up
brings me on stage
standing oh
I know
tell the people tell the people you're a. Tell the people you're a closer.
Tell the people you're a closer real quick.
I'm not going to do my bit.
Why am I asking you to do your bits?
You know I'd love to do them.
I'm not going to do my bit.
Give them the premise.
I believe the premise was
Asian men
going down.
Right.
But wasn't it talking dirty?
Is that what it was?
Talking dirty, yes.
And just give me a little.
No, I'm not going to do it.
Wet my beak a little bit.
I'm not going to wet your beak.
All right.
We'll have to cut to it.
I used to say everyone thinks French is the romantic language.
I go, you need to get with an Asian person.
Nothing more romantic than a Chinese guy
whispering sweet nothings in your ear.
And they get real close,
kiss your ear,
and then they go,
Tao do ah,
tong wah,
tong da wah,
and ah.
Fuck, Neil.
You wanted to play hardball
and we're going to cut to it.
Yeah.
It's, you know.
Yeah.
It was the times that we were in.
But it's a killer bit.
It was a killer bit.
It was my go-to.
Yeah, of course.
And I loved it.
An Asian sex bit.
I loved it.
You couldn't bomb.
Loved it.
First of its kind.
Couldn't bomb.
Unfiltered.
Yes.
Anyhow.
Walk off stage. Bo Peep. Do you know bo p comic old school and he was just
like can i do his voice yeah man you would make me god damn you'll be on com with you now if you're
mad at that impression if you're mad at that impression because it's an exact listen to honest
john his honest john impression honest john's white So this guy calls it like he sees it.
Honest John's like, hey, man, you really funny.
It's a white guy he's doing.
This guy.
Both people are like, hey, man.
But you know what he won't do?
His Asian sex bit.
He'll do all kinds of black sex.
I refuse to do that.
Won't do that.
But won't do.
And won't.
So he's like, I'm going to put you on Comic View.
And a week later, I was on Comic View.
Incredible.
And that's how I got Comic View.
Incredible. I still have that video, by the later, I was on a comic view. Incredible. And that's how I got comic view. Incredible.
I still have that video, by the way.
I may ask for a link.
This guy got it out the mud, as they say.
You can't sleep.
That's how we got to this.
What do you do?
How do you deal with that?
I don't know.
And I know it's not insomnia.
It's not.
It's my brain. my brain is going i enjoy
being up i really do that if you enjoy it and you aren't dying the next day no some people don't
maybe need that much sleep no do you think you're maybe one of those people four hours a night and i
and i have sleep apnea that's right severe sleep ap. Severe. Like, if I don't have a mask, I'd rather stay up.
If it's a 15-hour flight, I'd rather stay up than to close my eyes.
You can't bring a sleep apnea thing on the plane?
It won't let me plug it in.
One time I snuck it on and I knocked out all the first class.
That's so goddamn funny.
I plugged the shit in and I literally I plugged it in
tried to see
I covered it with a blanket
because I had to sleep
plugged it in
and then right when I did it
my
the light
it went
and then right when it happened
I saw the girl
sitting to my left
went
what the hell
and then I was like
and I just
packed everything up
flight attendant came out
like
are you guys
and I go
I don't know what's going on.
It was me. That reminds me of a story of my own where I had got a dog.
My dog, Keith Pitbull, taken to the dog park, brought a bully stick, which is a basically bull testicle dried that dogs fucking love.
Really?
Brought it to the dog park with keith thought we'll have a good
time uh other dogs were interested keith did not take it well and was snapping and someone said
who was stupid enough to bring a bully stick to the dog park and i of course was like who would
do such a thing oh you ignored it yeah i'm not gonna fucking say it was you
ignored you've knocked out first class you fucking hilarious yeah i'm not gonna fucking stand up and
go hello miss i'd like to turn myself in fuck go fuck yourself fuck that you're not gonna you just
walked away and yeah i'm not gonna fucking say that i did it okay so you how long was first class
out the whole rest of the flight yeah it was about 30
minutes oh that's finally they finally got it back on all right good all right that's not bad or did
they I can't remember it was funny though it was hilarious oh fucking fun it was a scene in the
the chaos that ensued because everyone was watching movies yeah everything went black it was so funny
yeah and if you would have seen how slowly you know you put your hands
here because you don't want to and i'm i'm coiling up the cord yeah i grabbed the mask i disconnected
i was doing nothing to do with it nothing no one's going on officer you were the serial killer who
went to the crime scene like what a killer in our neighborhood what well i while i never i'll keep an eye out um okay so
you sleep apnea did you know that that was not a thing until fairly recently that even
people just used to snore yeah they've called it snoring and you were doing that my whole
yeah i i knew right out of high school i had something wrong with me but
my dad just said it was snoring.
He goes, I do it too.
And I'm like, die?
Yeah.
Every night.
I feel like someone's standing on my chest.
I remember telling my dad that.
I was like, it feels like someone's standing on my chest and covering my mouth.
When did you get like officially diagnosed with it?
2005.
Okay.
So you just live with it.
And it was getting worse and worse.
I remember around 2000,
it was like episodic,
like,
like waking up in cold sweats and stuff in my throat.
Can't,
I don't know if you remember Kent Alterman worked at comedy.
So he had really bad sleep apnea and it,
it fucked.
He couldn't,
he had insomnia.
He was kind of chunky from it and he got a c-pap machine
and his whole life changed yeah because he could sleep better he lost weight yeah he was like
healthy he could exercise just shit he could not do that was that's me and it was the next day
that your life turned around life changed and i finally saw leaves for the first time isn't that
crazy to say that like i remember looking at a tree going it was so vivid and vibrant you know
what i mean i guess i had a haze over my eyes my whole my whole life in everything put throw that
block up couldn't see leaves yeah no i'm serious i remember looking at a tree and just like
whoa there's branches inside there.
So you must have been like a bad student.
Oh, I was bad.
Like you must have.
Slept in class.
Yeah.
Spit coming out of my mouth.
I got into so many accidents, falling asleep behind the wheel.
It was bad.
Like straight up fall asleep and then wake up and you're in an accident.
Yeah.
You got into an accident.
Oh, yeah.
How many times?
Oh, my.
I hit Bob Saget's car at Fox lot.
You fell asleep on a what?
Fox lot, yeah.
So that's not a long drive.
Yeah, so I waited, and then my foot came off the brake,
and bam!
And I look up.
It's a BMW.
This lady walks out, and I'm like, I'm so sorry.
This is a horrible time in my life, and I'm just like, I'm so sorry. I'm so tired right now. I i'm like i'm so sorry this is like a horrible time in my life and
i'm just i'm so sorry i'm so tired right now i feel this i'm so sorry blah blah blah and then
she looked at me she goes do you you're at the laugh factory a lot and i go yeah that i i'm at
the laugh she's like okay i'm with bob saget this is bob's car so don't worry about it i'll tell
him what happened and and, and that's,
they took care of it.
So you were falling asleep everywhere.
Do you feel like I could have died?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I,
Oh God,
I had my son in the car one time when I did it,
I hit someone on the freeway,
but thank God it was bumper to bumper too.
Yeah.
But I don't know why I was doing it,
but I was.
Were you ever going 70 and fell asleep?
Yeah.
I remember I hit a guardrail and it was my friend's car
and I ruined the whole left panel.
I remember waking up and seeing sparks.
I was like, ah!
Did Kanye's song make you go?
Like, why were you like, that could have been me.
Yeah, that could have been me.
By the way, this came out before was your this but i didn't know what
i was 2005 yeah i don't know what's wrong with me i just thought i was tired yeah i i didn't know
what sleep avenue no one told me it was sleep avenue i just thought i was tired i was like i i
didn't understand why people weren't sleeping more i just thought it was my my schedule because i had
three jobs i don't know and then someone told me i sleep apnea. My best friend was like, you got to sleep apnea.
My dad, my dad has that.
And then next thing you know, I get a mask.
So even with the mask and everything, it's still not amazing sleep.
Oh, it's amazing sleep.
Oh, it is, right?
Oh, I love it.
Okay, but you're still not, do you feel like.
I'm wide awake right now.
I only got like four hours of sleep.
And is that fairly typical?
Yeah.
You know, I'll go long.
I can go eight hours.
I just had to do morning radio
but i mean normally if i didn't have that mask i'd be i'd probably be in an accident right now
i'd be that's why i'm a congratulant and it's like a mate that must have been like that's
life-changing yeah that's that's why when i talked about it on my special i'm serious it's like come
on you guys like because i i also know it's like this stupid man thing like i'm wearing that stupid thing it's just snoring it's like bro no it's not
like uh uh god robin harris died from it you know i mean yeah i had severe sleep apnea he didn't
look like well he had sleep apnea on stage yeah he had he had severe his eyes were red because
he wasn't sleeping yeah like he could barely like enunciate on stage.
His throat was so tight.
Cold out there, y'all.
Saw Superman in a cab.
I said, why you ain't flying?
My defrost ain't working, Robin.
Yeah.
And it's sad because we would have got more of you.
We would have just wore that damn mask, you know?
And people don't understand that.
It's like you're going to get a heart attack or a stroke quicker than you yeah it's bad for every part of you right yeah
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The upper body is like Park Place and boardwalk and the rest are like
baltic you don't like patterns on clothing i fucking hate it i hate it what like the one i
can't do is touching the one i can't do is flannel i can do a flannel you know and even then that's
it's very seldom it's like let me throw this on real quick.
I won't wear it on stage.
It's like, I have flannels.
To the touch or just the visual?
No, pattern, visuals.
You know what I mean?
Like if you were to wear it, I'd be like, ugh.
You know what I mean?
Like this, I love this.
You're welcome.
This is what I love.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, everybody loves it.
Yeah.
It's one of the best shirts in my whole fleet yeah but patterns on a sock i'm pretty sure you got
that yeah oh no no that's uh that's an ayahuasca okay then that's fine that's fine thank you but
if that was on your sock you'd be like oh fuck yeah man put on some that might that sounds a
little asperger'sy is it a little bit uh asperger's people don't like fabrics. I like fabric.
I don't like a pattern on a fabric.
I just don't like it.
Like when I'm looking at you,
the only thing I will look at is your face.
I don't want to be drawn to like Biggie Smalls on your chest
and then a quote.
It's like, it's dope.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's like when it's on me,
like it's like, look, this is on my chest i mean
that's a whole other issue which is like the corniness of like hair yeah but anything though
whether it's a miller logo or i totally agree a nike swoosh it's like oh shut up mine i don't
mind too as long as it's about la logos i love la logos yeah no i'm you're wearing one i know
you're not getting what i'm saying like i know what you're saying no i'm what you're wearing one i know you're not getting what i'm
saying like i know what you're saying yeah i know exactly what you're saying overbearing logos it's
aggravated it's it's and it's not taste it's it it it like is sensory yeah like it does something
to you yeah what about this behind you that green stuff now if these were circles i'd be pissed why i don't like circles
it's got to be it's got to be straight lines i'm gonna go and give you a mild diagnosis i'm
gonna write down on my don't do this you're not certified you have mild asperger's i got tested
for it really yeah i got the lowest score you You really? Yeah. I got tested for it.
The lowest score you can get and have it is 26. I think it's out of 50.
26.
So I guess I have it.
I might answer it.
By the way, you're laughing at an Asperger's diagnosis.
You got it.
I got it.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Drop the confetti.
And here's another thing with me.
I don't know what this is. I have to to add numbers so like right when you said 26 i said
eight i go that's a good number why eight because two plus six is eight and i love eight okay it is
my life path again you have it i just based on what you have it yes you and i'm giving it to
you certified i'm allowed to give it to one person per week and i'm giving you that yes that's part of the asperger's no that creed coalition yes
you're a you said you're addicted to shopping yeah talk to me i believe that because i always
hear stories about you at the mall even though maybe it's just one store of you and Bert Kreischer at the mall. I have 10 of these.
I'll shut them all down.
You can go to my closet right now and see expensive things with price tags hanging on them.
You've never worn them?
Nope.
Do you return stuff?
No.
Why not?
I'll give it away.
I just gave an expensive jacket away right now, just before I got here how much it was a saint laurent jacket it was a pattern but it was a flannel pattern
which i don't mind why did you fall into it i i don't like i said i i don't mind a flannel
pattern and i'll wear it very randomly okay and and and i wore today and she complimented
and i gave it to her because i'm like, yeah, I'll get rid of this.
I won't wear it for another three years.
And that was an expensive jacket.
I don't think she understands how much I spent on that jacket.
It was a St. Laurent.
She'll look it up.
Oh, yeah.
Somebody will tell her.
Yeah, yeah.
Did it fit her?
Huh?
How big was she?
Tiny.
And she's a friend and they're all – I love that whole crew over there.
Where's there? Radio? Yeah, it's radio. she's a friend and and they're all i love that whole crew over there and you know where's their radio yeah it's radio woody show got it and uh yeah and she's she's always been there for it all she's the producer over there so so yeah i was like it was a gift
great but i'd rather give it away than return it so if it's not my size i'd be like okay cool you
want this and i'll give it to somebody okay you don't so you grew up poor yeah broke um and you were broke until you
were 48 30 something i think i started making really nice money around around 30 yeah around
36 and then i was like super comfortable so you don't worry about overspending um no i don't care like how do you
you don't worry about going broke i mean you're doing no because i put my money in the right spot
okay my son is financially and his kids will be well taken care of what about their kid okay huh
yeah but where does it end you if you didn't buy these jackets, you'd be fourth generation. No, I'm so – I was so smart with my money that everyone's good.
Now I can have fun.
You can really pop it off and be a moron.
Yeah, and I don't care, and I deserve it.
Okay, let's talk about that.
I do.
Do you especially deserve it?
Because whenever people say if something good happens, they go, you deserve it.
I always think I – every every i don't know if anyone
deserves anything yeah you do explain whatever you want you you know you do where life is all
about rewards right you accomplish something you should celebrate that and it's like how do you
celebrate it's like people have different vices you know i mean like i can add up one of my friends
weed expense and you'll be like what the fuck yeah and he's gotta have it
yeah and we're not talking one joint we're talking like you can start a small store
and it's like add that up and it's it's it's okay what i'm saying is does he deserve it
i just but that's his vice okay and that's what he likes okay and we're individuals so it's like
what makes you happy and it's like i know you. So it's like, what makes you happy?
And it's like, I know you have a vice.
There's something that makes you happy.
And don't do that.
Don't do the whole, don't do that.
I'm not buying that.
I'm not buying that.
I'm not buying that. I'm making a hilarious.
Guys, go on YouTube.
Watch this.
I'm making a nice video.
I'm not even.
I'm not.
Do I have a vice?
You're a character right now.
You're being a character.
Okay, go ahead.
No, we all do., I'm not. Do I have a voice? You're a character right now. You're being a character. Okay, go ahead. No, we all do.
And I love it.
And there's things that I always dreamt about.
And now I can make it happen.
And I'm going to make it happen.
And does it feel as good as you thought it would?
No, it does.
Okay, great.
It feels so good.
Great.
For me.
Probably not for you, but for me.
No, no, no, but that's good.
I grew up Catholic and one of 10 and like my parents are from the depression and you they
hoarding and you don't you know it's like yeah saving and all that stuff so i have so much of
that in me you're very clean aren't you at home is your house clean not especially i mean i have
like a do you have hoarding issues uh i have a, I have, I like the environment.
So I try not to buy too much shit
because I don't want to just make more.
Yeah.
Like I don't do merch.
Ronnie Chang talked about this.
I don't do merch because I don't want to be like,
it's just going to end up in a landfill.
So I just get too,
I've just watched too many documentaries.
Yeah.
So I know what happens to shit.
Yeah.
And I tend to like to do less. You. So I know what happens to shit. Yeah.
And I tend to like to do less.
You're not going to believe this.
You ready?
Go.
You have Asperger's.
Okay.
What?
Out of 50. Out of 50.
Out of 50, I'm saying 26.
Fuck.
Yeah.
That's eight.
That's a good number.
Yeah, yeah.
26 fuck yeah that's eight that's a good number yeah yeah um yeah so i don't i don't have when you're like your advices i'm like i don't have any you do you're just i don't have money you're
doing a character right now no i don't like i'm trying to think i'm being so open and genuine
and you're not guess what i'm telling i told i know i'm i told you i have asperger's i know but
that's all you're telling us you You're not telling us what abuse.
Stop it.
You're downplaying everything. I want to hear
what is your vices.
You can't sit here and act like you don't have vices.
It costs money.
What makes you happy? Those glasses make you happy.
Did you need them? No.
You could have just wore stock glasses.
Old style
black horn rim glasses but you got me
i got asperger's and i wear glasses oh here we go oh this just tell me just tell me your
all right all right what is your vice sushi on wednesdays vegan me too congrats except for sushi
i like to is that still vegan no i eat ice cream ice cream. I have a sugar day once a week.
God damn it.
That's not vegan.
I know.
I'm at least vegetarian.
I'm mostly vegan.
Don't say you're vegan when you eat ice cream.
You eat fish, motherfucker.
I know, but you made me sound like I'm vegan.
Like, bro, you're not vegan.
You don't like my tone?
I like your tone.
So, all right.
But that's it. Look, if you can, it's like when Charles Barkley talks about gambling. You don't like my tone? I like your tone. So, all right, but that's it.
Look, if you can, it's like when Charles Barkley talks about gambling.
You can never break the casino.
And it's like, don't you ever go, I don't know, buddy.
And he says, I've lost millions of dollars.
Do a black accent.
He goes, I lost millions of dollars.
But I've lost a million, somewhere between 10 and 20.
I can't get an exact number because we're going back to the 80s.
And you kind of go, all right he's yeah he's good for it yeah so yeah i go cool but then i but then my catholic
i think what it is i justified i guess in my head too as well you make a lot of money dude but i
also but i also give a lot away of course i know one jacket yeah well no i'm shut up
there's a lot of people i'm sure school i'm sure i'm sure that i don't i so i
i'm not mad at the shopping it's not advice i share but like i i i wish i like a cigar had
the opposite where he likes nice shit yeah and it was like i actually am envious he said i'm
envious of you talking about me that you don't have like the bug for buying
merch you don't have a bug at all come on i dude i'm i don't i'm like angry i'm a very angry don't
do that i don't like that i love too much i love too much now you're now you're being i think i
love too much guys right you want guys love
don't do that right and what do you think my vice is guys judgment that's a real vice what physical
vice do you have and stop doing this too many sit-ups i guess i'm too ripped are you i guess
i'm too ripped i'm more ripped than you think no i i could see it i'm more ripped now i can
actually i sent schultz a uh topless one time i just sent a message is it pretty amazing yeah
um is that from dieting or working out both both yeah um how's your sugar good sugar day it's a
it's it's a glycemic nightmare yeah you just can't stop sundays are glycemic i don't even
eat dinner i just eat sugar sugar so it's an addiction, man. Yes, but any addiction,
if you get three or four days away from it,
you don't crave it.
Yeah.
Let's talk about you and relationships
with women real quick.
Yeah.
How are they?
That's great.
You know what I mean?
I'm in love with what's happening right now,
and I need to-
That's pretty.
That's an invasion if
you've ever heard it no it's not i just don't want to like you don't want to there's a difference
there's a difference there's a difference between what we do we're so high risk you know to take on
this for our career choice is such a fucking risk there's so many people that want to be in our
position a million come and take it and
that's true come and take it yeah and and the thing is that's a scary thing i'm gonna come for
neil brennan's job like that that's scary and then and then you better have low you better have low
energy yeah and you better have a vice you better have low energy and you'd be able to better you
better be able to write jokes and you better very very good because you can't charm them in like this guy.
My jokes have to be structurally flawless.
Yeah.
We know that.
Yeah, and you got to be fucking, to be this, it's got to be everything.
The whole body experience.
I have the whole package.
You have a little bit of the package.
A big portion of one part of the
package yeah and i have that package and then another big package next to that and that's why
i'm gonna let the comments speak for themselves yeah i love that you're about to get fucking
blamed bro i'm glad you have a good fan base yeah uh okay go ahead so but to to get into this business you you got to take
a big risk you know what i mean and it's like this is this is fucking hard and scary so yeah
are you of the mind that i've been doing a joke recently where it's like i realized that a lot of
my relationships don't work because i'm just preoccupied with comedy yeah and by the way it's supposed to be that way i don't think i'm meant to
be i'm not linda there's a linda ronstadt quote you remember linda ronstadt because you're old so
yeah she said i'm not here to be a wife i'm here to sing yeah which is like that's the truth that's
pretty good.
Yeah.
I don't regret any relationships I've had,
but once I knew that I was like,
oh,
I should stop beating myself up for not being great at relationships.
No,
man.
It's,
this is,
this is our relationship.
This is risky,
man.
And we,
we can't take,
there can't be that pause.
We just can't pause.
The minute we press pause, it's over with.
We got to keep the tape running and we got to keep going.
We got to stay plugged in and tapped in the minute.
And that takes a lot of emotion and a lot of stress and a lot of mental.
And I can't share that.
I enjoy the relationships.
I really do.
But it's like, I feel bad because there's times where I'm going to be like,
no,
I can't.
Yeah.
And,
and I'm,
I won't have any emotional attachment to that decision.
You won't feel guilty.
You're just like,
no,
I have to do this.
Because if I said no to this,
I would have an emotional breakdown.
Right.
And,
and that is not consistent.
It won't be consistent with has anyone accepted that
i don't think so i i mean i i i know i don't know you know what i mean because you would know you
would know the relationships you've been in like was anybody said like i get that and i'm happy to
take second place yeah i think so okay but but even then it's like it it starts to wear it starts to get
tiring yeah it's like i thought i could be yeah i could be second yeah i didn't think it was gonna
be this yeah it's like yeah i i don't want to stop doing this yeah and i love the relationship
i'm in right now i think it's really really cool and um you know but I think we both understand, like, I waited a long time for this, man.
This is my first love.
Yeah.
It's my only love.
Yeah.
You know, it's my mom and this.
Does your wife, your ex?
Yeah.
What does she, does she, have you kind of had that conversation where you were like,
you know what?
I, maybe we shouldn't have been i was not you were
being dishonest or misleading but you i think when we're younger we hope we can do both and
then at a certain point you go i don't think i knew both yeah and that's what happened right away
you know and and this was the best decision that we could make was this i think we're the best
parents in the world and and yeah i am being biased but it's like, I really think you can do this.
You know,
I,
I want product of a divorced family.
And,
and,
and the stereotype was I hate him and she,
he hates her and let's get a lawyer.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
And it's,
it doesn't have to be that way.
It's like,
come on,
man.
Yeah.
You gotta,
so I,
I,
I,
I love where Angie and I are.
And I get very defensive too when I date.
And when they find out that Angie and I are close,
because there's nothing sexual between her and I.
We're best friends.
And that's the mother of my son.
And better not disrespect my mother's son,
because my son is the most protective person.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's his mommy.
So yeah, the minute I hear just any kind of tone
or anything about that, it's already done.
It's like, you're not going to get this.
Well, it's silly that somebody would think.
I mean, I get it.
People are jealous.
But yeah, people do get jealous,
but it's one of those things like.
And try and separate us.
Yeah.
I've been in those relationships and I'm like,
you really think I'm going to pick my son's mom, you over my son my son's mom yeah also are you ready to be a mom it's it's silly
yeah what are you talking about right now so all right final few questions what is the upside
of your traumas and mental uh mild mental illnesses i think being confident came from it i think being able to
deal with it and and i can see other people with whatever whatever they're dealing with
i know that i i've had shitty things happen to me and no one knew and i and i'm proud of myself for that like i
some fucked up shit happened six hours ago and you don't even know because i'm laughing
and i'm smiling yeah and i'm gonna get through it you know and and i'm and i and i and i learned
that from that from whatever it is that i had to go through. Yeah. I know that this, there's people that can't wish they can do what I do.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And deal with it the way I'm dealing with it.
Yeah.
That's great.
Because I talk so much.
It's the thing I'm saying where like we have these, our traumas, trophies that we polish.
But it's also like, also fuck that.
And like, despite despite that we can be
excellent at things anyone can yeah it doesn't have to there's a term loyal to the wound
yeah we're just constantly like uh fuck it but i okay here's here's my my argument with that and
i agree with you because you and i are wired different. Yeah. Not everyone's wired like that.
You know,
I'm not saying ignore it.
I'm saying,
no,
but you're also saying deal with it the same way you deal with it.
I'm saying,
and that's,
that's kind of unfair because not everyone can deal with shit like that.
That's like saying,
I don't know if you know how to skydive,
but I ain't jumping out of a fucking plane.
And that's how I deal with it.
And there's people that would be like,
come on. My sister would be like, let's go throw the shoe down teach me how to catch it like my sister's
that she loves that type of shit and i'm not wired that way i i can't like i i i can't even
there's no fucking way i'm jumping out i'm with you what i'm saying is but but do you see what
i'm saying yes that's how i'm wired yeah people are different they are and i'm saying you. What I'm saying is. But do you see what I'm saying? Yes. That's how I'm wired. Yeah. People are wired different.
They are.
And I'm saying you can be wired that way.
Just don't get stuck in your shit.
But I'm stuck in my shit though.
No, you're not.
You're wired to where you can, something can happen six hours ago and you can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I see what you're saying.
We can all.
I don't want to podcast about like people's blocks whatever but i wanted to be hopeful in
that like and there's an upside to this yeah there's an upside to trauma there's enough it
can make you funny it can make you resilient it can make you intelligent it can make you
read social situations yeah flawlessly because you're like if you grew up around violence you
get real good at that being like you can kind of see things
before they happen yeah and there's a lot of upside to it there's plenty of i'm not saying
ignore it i'm saying there's upside to the to the negative shit oh yeah what is your
personal emotional dream for yourself i'm i'm not understanding the question what's your dream
what is your dream scenario for your life are you living it yeah yeah this is it i i i i get happy
every time i walk in to uh a venue like yeah my favorite my favorite moment of my career was
selling out climate pledge arena which used to be called
the seattle coliseum which is where i went to i saw the sonics playoff games i you know
i saw eddie murphy raw there i was 15 you know what i mean i sat you know like maybe 15 rows
from the stage and then sitting in the same seats where I sat to watch Eddie with my son and looking at
the stage that I'm about to walk on. And I remember telling, and telling my son, I remember
sitting right here looking up at the 300 section going, I can't believe this many people are here
to see this guy tell jokes. And now I'm like, these people are here to see me tell these jokes.
And it's just like, holy fuck.
It was just, that was that moment where I was like, wow.
I remember sitting right here, 15.
You know what I mean?
15 years old. Life can be incredible.
It's so beautiful.
What are you proudest of in either your personality?
I think being a dad.
I think being the dad that i am and uh
because i think i did it the right way and what do you think as a dad what is your
what was your goal for your kid to be himself right and not me try and mold them the way my
mom tried to mold me and put so much pressure on me to be what she
thinks i should have been you know i mean go to college and be a nurse everyone in the family is
a nurse and you already have a job because your aunties have this and and just and then
me trying to be a comic and and and making me feel bad about it you know and that was her way of
you know i can get you to be a nurse because you're gonna die yeah you don't have health
insurance it's just like fuck like there were so many times where i hated my mom you know i mean
like i remember telling my mom at the mall one time i was like yo are you not even proud of me
like what the fuck you know i mean like that's
this sucks mom like you don't come to any of my shows you don't tell anybody what i do like this
sucks like how am i supposed to say you're my mom like when you don't even want to yeah see your
son do this shit and i never wanted my son to feel that way and it's like i never pressured my son like i know that my son doesn't
like school and i know he likes the things that he likes to do and he's pursuing him you know i
mean and that's what i'm going to support and take your time and fail i want him to fail fail as many
times as i did because that's what that's what's going to make you better and you're going to
appreciate whatever it is that you want to do more. It's an emotional,
it's an emotional goal and less of a,
like,
I need,
you need to have an apartment and you know,
like,
and I don't get that style of parenting.
Like my best friend in Vegas,
God bless them.
But it's,
it's structured,
everything's structure.
And it's like,
I even told him to the side,
go bro,
you're not even enjoying the childhood.
Like all you're thinking about is college and blah, blah, blah.
And this and that and this and everything's geared up.
And all right, now he's got to do this and he's got to study for his test.
Like, yo, fuck his test.
If he fails, he'll take it again.
Yeah.
Dude, he's in his 20s.
Like who gives a shit?
You know what I mean?
And it's like, but he thinks different.
And it's like, I get it.
But I can also see that these kids are also oh god
this is gonna suck when he hears this but i i feel like they're living for him as well yeah and not
living for themselves i can't fuck up because my dad and it's like i don't ever want my son to feel
that way yeah i want my son to be like this is what i want to do and i can't wait to tell my dad
yeah and my dad's gonna be right next to me like let's fucking go oh you don't want to do that
anymore joe all right then what what do you want to do all right well let's fucking figure this out
let's do this together and you don't worry about like spoiling him or any of that shit no my son
is so it's crazy he doesn't even shop he loves it and when i shop he he like he's like like do you
need that like it's weird to hear a teenager talk like that.
What the fuck are you talking about?
When I was a kid, if someone goes, hey, you want this?
I'm like, can I get two?
What do you mean one?
Can I get two of them?
My son, I'm like, Joe, you want this?
No, I'm good, Dad.
I'm like, what?
You're not consistent.
This is what kids do.
Yeah, it's been a blessing.
Your son turns out as a huge Neil Brennan fan.
That was Block's episode with Joe Coy, everyone.
Goodbye, Joe.
I love you, man.
Yeah.
Joe, I love you too.
I love you. Mommy All you have to do is open, open up your hand
Mommy