Bonanas for Bonanza - Bonanas For Bonanza Episode #24: “The Stranger”
Episode Date: January 3, 2024Subscribe to The Andy Daly Podcast Project at Patreon.com/AndyDalyDalton, Mutt and Amy are joined by German filmmaker Werner Herzog, a man who once, believe it or not, declared war on Bonanza! To...gether they discuss another fine episode of America’s greatest TV show plus Amy launches a political campaign, or maybe it’s two political campaigns. Warning: this show contains spoilers for an episode of Yellowstone and/or Yellowjackets.Featuring Andy Daly as Dalton Wilcox, Maria Bamford as Amy Sleeverson and Matt Gourley as Mutt TaylorMerch: redbubble.com/people/ADPodProject/shopMail: PO Box 9407 Glendale, CA 91226Email: bonanaspod@gmail.comAndy’s website: andydaly.comRecord date: 1/13/2022 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I'm bananas for bonanza. Yeah!
Yeah, you're shooting a roof.
Hey, we're in different places this time.
That's right.
Yeah.
We've been lately in the same place, this time we're in different places.
I'm upstairs at Jellaby's.
Jelby and the baby are here downstairs and I'm upstairs and the
reasons we're doing this is we're talking to somebody who it could not come
down in person. We're talking to a VIP and a SOB. More SOB than VIP in my opinion.
Mutt Taylor, where are you? Oh, I'm in one of those propane tanks that you use for like a cabin
that's buried underground you know? Like a big big size propane. Yeah it's
hollowed out a lot of the fumes are still there so I'm a bit loopy. Are you
underground and in the tank? Okay. All right is there do you want to
tell us how you ended up in there? I'd rather not. I got it. I understand. As soon as you said that, you're underground a propane tank, I say it's myself, I'll
bet you, I'll bet you he's hiding or something.
But anyway.
And that's not because you just sprung this on me right now and I had to think about where
I was. I can see you're down there. You're getting a decent reception. Yeah, I'm afraid to light a candle though.
Uh-huh.
Because it's a little dark.
Now, Amy Sleverson thought we were doing it in person.
And so she showed up here at Jelaby's house and I said, no, we're not, we're doing it
on a zoom.
True story.
And so, I believe she's headed to, uh, Starbeaks or something like that, wherever she can get a wife. Starbeaks.
Well, you know the coffee, Goddamp.
You don't want to talk about that.
Yeah, star beaks.
Yeah.
Well, hey, here's what I say at the start of every one of these episodes.
I say, hello, friend, come on in.
The gate is open wide.
Welcome to Bananas for Bananx.
I'm the the to the to the thaaaaaaaa Wilcox, I'm a cowboy, I'm a cowboy poet,
and I'm from the heart of the American West.
Today we're talking about the best TV show
that ever was on television,
undisputed best TV show against whom no one would ever declare war.
You'll see what I mean by that in a minute.
We're talking about Bonanza, and today we're talking about season one episode 24, the stranger. Why is it called the stranger? I don't know. Right? I bet you they regretted
using that title this early in the run of the show, because the fellow introduces himself
in the first scene. Anyway, we'll get you. Good point. Why should this episode,
why should this episode more than any other episode? If anything, this, this, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, th is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it's the the the the the the the the the the strange the strange the strange the strange the strange the stranger, why is the stranger, why is the stranger, the stranger the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger the stranger, the stranger the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the stranger, the strange the strange, the strange, the strange, the strange, the strange, the strange, the strange, th. th. th., why should this episode more than any other episode be called the
stranger?
If anything, this is the least strange stranger.
Good point.
This is a fellow we know from the past.
Maybe it's ironic.
Well this episode has everything.
It has intrigue, it has a limp, it has characters, working very hard to avoid,
using the word prostitute as they often do on this show. And it has a shootout out with th th th th th out with with with with with with with with with th out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out th. th. th. thi. this this is this is this is this is thi. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thi. the. this this this is this is this is this is this is this is this this this this this. to avoid using the word prostitute as they often do on this show. And it has a shootout with Native American People's People.
Oh man.
And now, all right, here's how I'm gonna introduce our goddamn guest.
A little while ago, a listener to this here podcast,
sent us a question via Twitter.
And he says, did you know, I'm gonna paraphrase.
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on Bonanza?
And I went looking for the clip on YouTube and now this is the part where we do a thing
here where I'm going to share my screen.
It's going to happen three times in this episode, three times that will there be a sharing of the screen? And I'm gonna share the sound, so far, smooth sailing,
and then I'm gonna click over here,
and then I'm gonna play for this thing on YouTube.
You're not gonna hear it
and I'm gonna have to start over from the top
for reasons at this moment can't imagine,
but for sure, something's gonna go wrong.
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I already, damn it, I said the name of the fellow.
Well, here he, here's a clip of our guest today declaring war on Bonanza.
Listen.
Just ridiculous and it's destructive.
It kills us and talk shows will kill us.
They kill our language.
So we have to declare holy war against what we see every single day on television, commercials.
And I think there should be real war against commercials, real war against talk shows,
real war against Bonanza and raw hide.
Well, God damn, wow.
There it is, you doesn't hurt it with your own damned ears, and as soon as we heard that,
we says, word of Hurtsug, if you're out there listening, get yourself over to Bananas for Bananza and explain yourself!
Yeah, get yourself to Bananas for some gotcha podcast,
and we're gonna call you to the carpet
you twisted some worm liquor.
That's exactly what it is.
And there he's been very patient there in Zoom,
listen to all these goddamn insults.
This is a German,
Huh, German, director of films, and a writer of screens, and an author and an actor and a documentarian
and his movies include Fitzcaraldo, Grizzly Man and most especially bad lieutenant
port of call New Orleans.
Now I have to say those are pretty good titles for someone I hate. Yeah, I guess so.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is God damn word of Herzog. Hello!
Hello to you, Dalton, and also to you much.
Thank you for having me on the program.
I'm happy to discuss what I said.
I think it's a bit unfair that you play a clip of audio of my voice because now people
will say, oh, it sounds so different.
Why did his voice change so much?
Well, of course, that was years ago that clip,
and I'm much older now, and so my voice changes, as all old people's voices do.
That never crossed my mind, but...
Yeah, right.
It never crossed mine until it was happening.
And then I thought, uh-oh.
Well, if you want, I could read the quote instead.
No, hell, we've heard it.
That's exactly right.
People's voices change over time.
Here, go ahead.
Well, I'll tell you what you do, folks, if you have trouble believing me.
Watch the Get Back documentary about them Beatles and then
listen to an interview with Paul McCartney today. He sounds like a god-damned old man.
All right, points been made. But more importantly, here you are saying we need real war against Bonanza.
And what kind of goddamn point was you even trying to make? Now this was a long time ago.
You were, this was like a 1970s or some shit. Okay, yes. This was many decades ago when, when talk shows were definitely
a threat to be reckoned with the artifice of them, was destroying the fabric of how we perceive
the world. And I said, you know what? Gotta do a holy war because, um, um, um, it was a, uh, the fabric of how we perceive the world. And I said, you know what?
Gotta do a holy war because how else to take them down?
You cannot mount a letter writing campaign to say,
please, Johnny Carson, will you stop doing your show?
Here's 500 signatures.
You must take arms.
And the big problem was, no one did it.
I put out the call, said, let's go guys,
take up your, take up your swords and shields,
and let us march to Burbank and burn all of it to the ground.
And no one wrote back. I, I, I made all the, I, I, I, made all the, I, I, I, I, I did all the.the ground. And no one wrote back.
I made all that, I cannot believe I spent all that time
and money printing up these scrolls
and sending them to people.
No one even acknowledged that it was a scroll,
which I thought was a nice touch.
Just no responses. Whatever that interview was on, touch. It just no responses.
Whatever that interview was on, that was somebody was interviewing you and you said that,
maybe that was the first time.
That was American bandstand.
So you were essentially on a talk show saying let's do all the work.
No, it was a dance program.
It was American bandstand.
I was addressing all of that to Dick Clark.
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That guy never ages, even to this day.
Probably a vampire.
He's definitely stopped aging.
Long time ago.
Now, what were you doing on American Bandstand?
Did you have a hit record?
I was called in to lip-sync for Falco because he woke up with a sore throat, even though
it's lip-sinking, he didn't want to get anybody else sick, so we were friends and I said,
I'll go in and do it, who will know the difference?
And then it turns out they knew the difference when I went on a long screen about
a holy war against TV commercials and talk shows and Bonanza and Raw Hyde.
Was Falco? Was he the 19 or something? Is it? He's Amadeus?
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Yes, which I never heard before. And you didn't know the song, but you says I'll go and
then it just turns into you telling Dick Clark that the medium that you are currently on is what, destroying our brains? Well now. is, is, is, is, is, is, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, is, is what, is what, is what, is what, is, is, is, is what, is what, is, is, is, is what, is what, is, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what, thi. thi? thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the thi, the the the the thi, their, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, which I thi, which I thi, now, I want to make the distinction
that it's not the medium of television.
It was specifically talk shows, TV commercials,
Bonanza and Rahide.
Those were the big four, the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
In my view.
Because you're talking about two separate genres,
and then two specific TV shows. Now, why ain't you single them out in a the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium of of the medium the medium of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium the medium to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tod. talking about two separate genres and then two
specific TV shows. Now why ain't you singling out in any talk shows but why
you got pick on Bonanza? Now Brawhide I understand it do what you want with
that but I never heard of Bannonso.
Were you just guessing that that might be the title of a TV show?
No I have heard of Bonanza.
I was, I was gently teasing much for saying Bonanza a second ago.
Oh, oh, careful because you want a holy war, I'll give you a holy war.
Don't mess with a man in a gigantic propane tank.
I certainly don't mean to be a rude guest on your program.
I am very appreciative of the invitation because it gives us a chance
to start a fresh friendship once I explain what my thinking was and where it came from. All
talk shows I felt were ruining the culture and ruining humanity. So at this time you're
talking about Johnny Carson,
Murph Griffin, Mike Douglas, and maybe Dick Cavett.
Maybe that's what you're thinking about at that time.
And retroactively, Steve Allen and Dinashore.
Oh, yeah, Dinah Shore.
Who was the other one, Jack Parr?
All of these people were, and I think I've been proven right about that. Then, television, commercial, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, uh, uh, the, the other one, Jack Parr. All of these people were, and I think I've been proven right about that.
Then television commercials present an even more disgusting view of humanity and the world.
And it was almost insidious the way they wanted us to replicate the reality that they portrayed.
And I was like, uh-uh, no way because I know that,
that, you know, I'm one of these guys that says things like,
don't buy the name brand, the store brand, it's all the same stuff.
So, why are you spending more money for that peanut butter when it's the same peanut butter in the store brand?
That's, you're. I'm surprised Word of Herzog is a store brand guy.
So you'll go into a Gelsons and you'll just get yourself the president select?
Is that what they call it?
I wouldn't set foot in a Gelsons.
I am a I'm a Vance guy all the way.
Well, people who don't know, people who don't know these supermarkets. It's like, you walk into Gelsons and it's like heaven.
There's harps playing and everybody there is so happy and just free stuff all around.
It's just beautiful.
You go into vons and it's like, you ever see like in the post-apocalypse when everybody's
just grabbing it things off the shelves.
It's that kind of a scene that a bond, and that's what you prefer. Yes. I mean, is that so surprising? I guess not. I guess you like to have people
fighting for their lives. Hey, now you ever see that? You ever see that TV commercial for, it's called Chuck Wagon, and you got a little stagecoach from rolling through a house and the dog is trying to chase after it because of food is on the chuck wagon.
Now this is proving my point because as imagine being a child and seeing a childhood age and
seeing that commercial when it was new and being so disappointed that the little
chuck wagon was not real and it was not a toy that you could have.
It was just a camera trickery.
And also the weird shame of seeing the brand on the dog food and thinking, hmm, that actually
looks pretty good, but I must not say this out loud.
What do you mean?
That's like saying Santa Claus, like you should be shamed for thinking about Santa Claus being
real.
You should.
Okay. By the way, there ain't nothing wrong with a child eating to Chuck Wagon Dog food.
No, there's a lot right with it. What about Lauren Green and his Alpo commercials?
Now that's Bonanza and Commercial. Does that cancel each other out?
Does that make things worse in your dumb eyes? What? Why would it cancel each other out? It's a combination of two terrible things. Well, like a negative one and a negative two.
They're negative three.
All right.
I'll tell you what though.
I'd rather have to fight a big foot and a creature from the black lagoon than
just a big foot or a creature from the black lagoon.
Right. Because there's a decent chance that they would start fighting one another, and now I could
get to jump on both of them.
How would you accomplish this?
Would you say something like, hey Bigfoot, did you hear what the Lutness Monster
said about you?
Yeah, he said you had big feet.
Yeah, that's what I would say.
Or I'll bet you big foot's. I'd feet. I'd say hey not for nothing but that creature
from the Black Lagoon over there he don't think your faith. Oh creature
forgive me I forgot I don't know. I transposed the two the two aquatic
cryptids in my mind I apologize. Yeah they're completely different. Hey I I once saw a movie that you was in which was a it was a it was a it was a it was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a comedy. It was a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I was a. I was a. I was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. too. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a. I was a movie that you was in which was a it was a comedy documentary about searching
for the Loch Ness monster.
So it was on Lochness and you was in it and it was it was terrible.
That's another reason I'm mad at you.
Well it just didn't make me laugh.
I want and by the way the monster at no time did you ever see the monster, nor
do anybody ever kill it.
What would you say makes you laugh the most?
Well, I'll go ahead and give you a little preview this episode of Bonanza we're talking
about.
There's a point in this episode where the sheriff tells such a funny story that he says, hey, you, one time there was a fellow who was condemned
to death and he asked if he could cook himself his last meal, and he did, but he didn't
have time to eat it, I ate it, and it was real good.
That is good. That's a funny story.
Humor remains subjective. Also, it's too bad that we couldn't put everything in the film, but we did have several scenes
with the Loch Ness Monster.
What?
Just running around, playing, giving people rides.
You cut out.
You cut out.
Look, this is great.
Look, that goddamn Loch Ness Monster devours children.
People shouldn't play around with that fucking monster.
Hey, you're telling me that you had footage of it and you left it out of the movie?
For what?
It interfered with the narrative.
Oh my God.
Unbelievable.
How do you intend to do Holy War against a television show, especially against the cart rights?
You're going to start a war against the four of the bravest, most amazing gunfighters ever
live?
Now we come to the crux of our issue with one another, and what I must tell you is when I declared
holy war on Bonanza
and Rahide which I am surprised that you have never heard of because it is a
cowboy TV show. I never heard it. Yeah. I had not seen Bonanza. I had seen
Rawhide and assumed Bonanza was just a raw hide clone, you know like when friends
became popular and they tried to make a bunch of friends type shows, but they didn't work.
Yeah, couple.
Oh, and coupling, that's right.
They took a show that was a knockoff of friends but dirty, and then they imported it back to America and cleaned it up.
Great going guys. Why didn't that work?
Because they already had friends. They should have canceled friends. So they eventually did they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they did. And they they they they they eventually they they they eventually they eventually they they eventually they thually thually thi. And thi. And they they they they the. And thoued. And coued and coucoucoucoupled and coupled and couplinged their and couplinged their and couplinged their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And ced. And coucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucouculated. And couculated. And coupled. And couculated thed. And couculated taped couculated toupled. And coucoupled. And coupled. And coupled. And coupled. And coupled. And couculated. And couculated that work? Because they already had friends. They should have canceled friends.
So they eventually did.
Yeah.
It's a shame.
It's very successful, but then they canceled it on the film.
America's youngest teenage show.
Now that I have, but then shortly after I declared my holy war and it didn't take off,
I said, maybe I should check
out Bonanza and I love it.
to-Wow!
What?
It's my favorite TV program of all time.
So is this an apology tour?
If you would like to consider it, yes, up to me, I consider it just a meeting of three
fans of the greatest TV show to ever exist. This took a turn I did not expect. And I, and I, and I. And, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, and I, I, I, I, and I, and I, I, and I, and I, and I, I, and I, I, and I to to me, and I to to to to to to to to to to to to to me, and I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to to to to to to to to me, and I to me, and I to me, and I to me, and I to me, and I to me, and I to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to to to to me, to to to to to to to to to to to me, to me a meeting of three fans of the greatest TV show to ever exist.
This took a turn I did not expect.
To be honest with you, expected that at this far into the podcast I'd be trying to figure
out a way to kill you from a distance.
From wherever it is that you are.
Like, and I'd be, I was visualizing somehow being able to send an electric shock to your
keyboard.
Uh, I'm not saying it was going to be easy, but that's what I thought I'd be up to
right now.
And instead, I've, we've found an ally.
Now this makes more sense from the fellow that's been in the mandolinian, it's starting
to come together.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby, the baby, the Oh, the baby Yoda. Yeah. Forgive me, I get emotion when I think
about him. He was, what was it like working with him? It was, when you see this little guy
walking around with these big eyes holding a mug like a sad woman in a television
commercial. What we can achieve is awe-inspiring. Forgive me. I've never never in my life seen a man so emotional about anything before, ever. What was Grogu like on set, though?
Was he wisecracking or a real serious worker method?
He was mostly inanimate just on a table nearby, near to the set, because he was a puppet?
What?
You say mechanical puppet?
What?
Wait, you're doing to- I don't know how many time, how many ways to
say that he was a puppet. You just fucking chuck waggoned me. A classic
chuck wagoning. Hey, wait a minute, I saw an article the other day that said there's an
incident on the sit, whereas they were shooting it with a puppet, and then they was taking the puppet away and they was shooting it on a green screen because they says, I don't know if we're going to use a puppet or we're
going to use computers. And you said, to the director, John Favreau, you said, don't be such a coward. Commit to the puppet. Is that true? It's true. I screamed at him. I rose my voice as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as as as my as high as high as the the the the the the the th as high as high as high as high as high as the the the the the the the to as to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. Don't. I was. I was. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. I was. Don't. I could and I said, don't be a coward.
Wow.
Sorry, I hope I didn't blow out your earphones.
No, it's fine.
That wasn't so loud.
That's allowed us you can talk.
That's, I don't, I mean, I don't like to do it often, but, you know, I was so worked up
that he was going to consign this puppet to a sometimes
instead of always.
And I screamed at him, I said, you coward, you coward.
And people started turning around, what's all this, what's all this commotion?
Where is that loud yelling coming from?
And I'm screaming at Favreau, you coward. That loud, just that loud, exactly that loud yelling coming from and I'm screaming at Favreau, you coward, you coward.
You think that loud, just that loud, exactly that loud, huh?
Yes, forgive me again.
I said, you think you are brave because you wore the tank top t-shirt in Swingers.
You are not.
You are a coward because you will use computer-generated images.
When look at this little guy, look at what he's doing,
he's raising his head, he's putting his hand to his chin in thought, he is pointing at
something, he's closing his eyes to use the force, you coward, and by that point he was in
a fetal ball. What about you now, you were on a set that is apparently a parallax
LED background, so you weren't even in
any of those locations.
So you're kind of a hypocrite.
Now, I understand you're on our side now.
I just got to get a couple of these things out before we can be friends.
Right.
Well, yes, I wish we could have actually flown into space to shoot the show, but you would
know more about it than I would. What's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the thaauuiiauia. the thia. thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that would. What's that supposed to mean?
Well, you're the expert, right?
You're the filmmaker.
Are you yelling at me right now?
It's hard to tell.
I'm screaming my guts out.
Oh, God, I thought so.
I thought so.
Hey, Werner, you ever work with puppets?
theiruppet Show? Oh yeah, they ever have you on the Muppet Show with our very special guest, Werner Herzog.
I have campaigned to be on the Muppet show many times.
At that point I was promoting FitzCoraldo and I said, come on, let me come on here with Klaus Kinski,
who is of course a sophisticated animatronic, and they
said he doesn't count because there's too much metal inside him.
And everything around here is felt, except for the rods, of course.
That was the problem, otherwise they would have had you on, huh?
Yes, and unfortunately the Klaus Kinski, it developed sentience and that made things
very difficult and in the end I couldn't blame them for not wanting him around.
Yeah, you had nothing but troubles with that fella.
And now he is at the bottom of the ocean wishing over and over again to be a real boy.
What a sad story. You know they had lots of people on
the Muppet Show that was not so much less unlikely than Warner Hurtz-on. Yeah. Go
ahead look through the list of guests sometimes. Sir Han. Yeah he was on there.
Henry Kissinger. Yep more than happy to have that guy on there. Larry Flint.
Tutan Common, the mummy of.
And Larry Flint.
O'Brien from 1984.
They was a weird show.
They had the whole cast of Star 80 on the Muppet show.
Man.
So much cocaine.
Yeah.
Well, from the Muppets.
That's what got the cast started.
Let's move on.
Hey, you want to talk about some fun facts from this episode of Bonanza?
It could be.
Did we already say that Amy Sleverson might tune in at any time or maybe not at all?
Well, that's the plan, but I wonder.
Yeah, as time goes on, it begins to seem less likely, not more.
But who knows?
All right, here we go.
I'm gonna tell you some fun facts about it.
Season 1, episode 24 of Bonanza, the stranger.
Now you're hanging out with three big Bonanza fans.
Who knew that was gonna happen?
I can't believe it.
I thought it would be nothing but because a slugugugugugugug All right, we got, this episode was written by a fellow named Oliver Crawford.
Oliver Crawford wrote for many wonderful shows, including a show called Doctors Hospital.
Another show called Corg, 70,000 BC.
Oh, and another show called Gilligan's Island.
Oh, I know that show.
Here, I'll tell you the plot of the episode of the Gilligan's Island that he wrote.
Both Gilligan and Mr. Howell lay claim to a treasure chest that Gilligan dug up while working
for Mr. Howe. To me, that's cut and dry. That's Mr. Howe's treasure chest. That's right. Gilligan was a thiolou-a-a-o' tholli-o' tholli-o' tholli-o' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' thole. tholi. tholi. tholi. tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' thagne. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. thi. G. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. g, 70,000 BC was a show about Neanderthal.
A family of Neanderthal is just trying to get along in the difficult conditions of life.
And I watched a couple episodes of it.
Burgess Meredith narrates it like a nature documentary.
What?
What? Yeah?
And it's just a lot of sort of almost Planet of the Apes like makeup that seems like
it's gonna fall off any second.
It's good show.
This is considered the inspiration for the sitcom Cavemen.
I'll tell you what, they look just the same.
Just the same.
This episode was also the story was by Lawrence Heath.
This is the fourth episode so far, Bonanza, that we've seen that Lawrence Heath had a hand
in.
Lawrence Heath wrote a movie called The Truth About Communism, starring Ronald Reagan.
He wrote, he wrote 66 episodes of murder, she wrote, so that was a real job.
66.
Yeah.
That ain't nothing.
Poor show got canceled before it even got started.
You know there's only 431 episodes of Bonanza Werner.
I'm sorry to tell you that now that you're a fan of it.
No one knows this sorrow more keenly than I.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Except for thanks.
He also wrote on a show called Stunts Unlimited. A group of Hollywood stunt performers are recruited by U.S. Intelligence to retrieve a
stolen laser gun from a notorious arms dealer in this pilot to a proposed TV series.
What's the problem?
Mattel's eyes grew as big as saucers.
Oh my God.
As he was hearing this description.
I thought you might like that. That's almost as good as there's a movie called Real Bullets about a the to to to to the to the to the to the the to the to the the to the the to to the the to the the U- to to to to to to to use to use to use to use to use to use to use to use to use to use too-s too-s too-s too. U-s too. U-s too. U-s to use to use to use to use to use to use to use to use the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the US the US intelligence the US intelligence their their their their th.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S. U.S.S.S. U.S.S.S.S. tre. tre. tre. tre. tre. tr was hearing this description. I thought you might like that.
That's almost as good as there's a movie called Real Bullets about a group of no shit, Universal
Studio Stuntman that go out on a camping trip for the weekend and get tangled into a war with
a drug cartel.
Oh my God.
And it's the actual...
Who are also camping at the same time? Oh, and Martin Landow plays tho plays tho plays tho plays tho plays tho plays tho plays tho plays tho tho tho the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the tho tho tho the the. thus the the. the. the. the. the. the. their tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the theeeea thea thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the the th same time. Oh, and Martin Landau's daughters in it,
so Martin Landau plays the drug kingpin for a scene or two.
And because it was bring your dad to work day.
What's the phoning and in version of phoning it in?
Like someone, he called it into a, that was set up to a phone that called it in.
Texting it in. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, look who's here?
Oh, hello.
Amy Slaverson is tuned in from parts unknowed.
Hello, Amy.
I'm so sorry I'm late.
I'm running for state controller of California.
I want to control everything.
I want to move people's hands from behind them with their elbows.
I want to push them and make them do but my bidding.
Well, all this is excited. You're running for public office.
Hey, I just want to point out one of the other squares here on the zoom is a fellow by the name of Werner Hertz.
You ever know about a, he's a German filmmaker. Oh, yep.
He's wonderful.
He reads children's books online.
I do.
It's, it's true.
I've read over 70,000 children's books.
Jesus Christ.
Like, what kind of books?
He doesn't live a pepper pig.
The Hungry Caterpillar. Are you my mother? The thing is I don't know if
you would have watched it because I read them silently. Oh I see. So you go online
and you're just sitting in a in an armchair. Yes. By the fire.
By the fire. Reading a book but you don't read it out loud. No. But you do see me read the entire book.
Yeah. And he's in Germany. You you do see me read the entire book.
And he's in Germany, you can tell. Oh you can tell by the fire. Fire burns upside down in Germany. It's a very German fire and the chair could not be more German. Speaking of friends, could
this chair be any more German?
I gotta check that out man. I think I've seen some pretty German
chairs in my life but now if this is the most German chair you can ever see I'm
gonna definitely check that out. Amy I have a question. What is the difference
between a controller and a comp troller? Oh it's not a joke set up. It's a genuine question.
A comp troll, I believe, has something to do with fiduciary financials and fiduciaries.
A controller means you just start and charge! I don't know. I don't know.
But you're not running for comp troller. You're running for controller. Controller. That's what I put on all the posters. Oh, I believe. I don't tho the post troll. I, I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have tholer. I have tholer. I have tholer. I have tholer. I have tholer. I have tholer. I have tholer. I have tholer, I have tholer, I have th.roller you're running for controller controller oh that's what I put on all the posters oh no I'm sure
it'll be fine I mean the words are so similar
controllers I thought it was
don't worry about it it's a Alicia your concern. I assist management. Oh, okay. Oh, no. Well, the point is I already have my election. I want it. I'm running for office and it's going to be. It's in minute. I'm going to be. She's been here. That's my whole sales. It's. She's been here. I. that. the whole. to. the. Oh. Oh. Oh, Well, the. Oh. Oh, well, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. whole sales thing is that she's been here the whole time.
Oh, well, you got my vote. That's your campaign. Just. That's all you need to win the office.
Okay. It's who have been in the area. Oh, hey wait. Oh, I see. That's just you must have been inspired by this episode of Bonanza that we're talking about. We're Ben Cartwright putting his hat in the rain to run
for Governor. And, uh, well, I guess we'll talk about it when we get, but he doesn't have much
of a platform. To be fair. All right, well, we was just still running through some fun facts. I just want to finish up on Lawrence Heath. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, th. th. th. th. th. to, th. th. to, to, to, to, th. to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben, th. Ben. Oh, th. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the the th. Oh, the th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, the. the. the. the. to. the. the. thi. the. the. thi. the. thi. B. B. I, the. B. Yeah, to finish up on Lawrence Heath because he has a couple of other good credits a movie called The Beasts are on the
streets and another movie called Ski Lift to Death. I was hoping the other
movie would be what the beasts are in the sheets. The beasts are in the streets and the feasts
are in the sheets. It's beasties in the sheets. Breakfast the bea-the feasts are in the sheets.
It's beast's beauty in the sheets.
Yeah.
That movie is, here's the description of that movie.
Panic grips a small community after a tanker truck crashes through a fence at a wild
animal park, freeing dozens of dangerous beasts.
Whoa, that is a good premise for a film.
That actually sounds pretty good, I have to say. I agree. Now, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the beast. B, the the the the the the the the the the the beast. B, the the the the the the the beast. B, breakfast. B, breakfast is the bee. Breakfast is the beasteastest. Breakfast is the beasteasteasteasteasteasteaste's is the beaste's is the beasteasteasteastes. Breakfast is the beastes. Breakfast is the b. Breakfast is the b. Breakfast is the b. Breakfast is the b. Breakfast. Breakfast. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. Breakfast is the the the the the the the the the the trea. Breakfast is. Breakfast is. Breakfast is the the the the things. Breakfast is. Breakfast is. Breakfast is th. Breakfast is th. B. Whoa, yeah. That is a good premise for a film. That actually sounds pretty good, I have to say.
I agree.
Now Lloyd Nolan is like the lead guest star in this episode.
He plays in Inspector Charles Laduke.
He was in a movie called The Girl Hunters and a movie called We Joined the Navy.
He was in a movie called, those could be the same movies. Yeah. He was in a movie called toward tow towed towed towed toward toward toward toward toward toward toward toward toward toward toward toward the the the the the the the the Those could be the same movies. Yeah. He was in a movie called Toward the Unknown. Not all the way to the unknown. It's a prequel. It's a prequel.
I think the idea is to just go toward it and once you've known it you can turn away.
Oh yeah just get close enough to have some idea of it. Now it's known. Yeah now it's known. This guy's career was so long, he was in two completely
unrelated movies. One was called The Man Who Wouldn't Die, and the other was called The Man
Who Wouldn't Talk. Oh, and they're unrelated. Unrelated. They have nothing to do with one another.
I of course first knew him from a classic film called resisting enemy interrogation.
Is that something that Lloyd Nolan was in? Yes, he was the star of it.
A downed American bomber crew quickly falls prey
to the clever interrogation techniques of the Germans
in this training film.
You can rent it for 99 cents on Amazon.
I'm doing that.
Can you got, how long is it?
Like an hour?
Can we meet back here in an hour?
Or is it a training film?
I don't know if it would go quite that long.
All right, then in that case I won't watch it now.
But, uh, well, I'll watch it as soon as I can.
See, now that's weird because I know from a TV show called Gibbsville. Oh what the hell is that? Oh it's a 1977 TV series about a life in a
small Eastern town during the 1940s as seen through the eyes of a young
newspaper reporter. Well that sounds good. Yeah we all know Lloyd Nolan.
Everyone has their favorite Lloyd Nolan. Well and and then you got a fellow named Hal Baylor.
He played Tom Cole in this episode.
He's a, uh, he's LeDukes, whatever.
He was in a movie called Cornbread, Earl, and me.
He was in another movie called The Barefoot Executive.
And another one called The Nome Mobile, and another one called Quick
Before It Melts.
That's Frosty the Snowman.
These are all wonderful films, of course.
Yeah, they was in another.
I didn't realize he was the same guy from all of those.
And he was in seven episodes of something called Gunsmoke. I never heard of that.
And, and 10 episodes of Bonanza, never one time playing the same role.
Wow.
Yep.
Ten different characters on that.
Isn't that something?
That might be a record.
When did he play a bear half the time? Nope, I don't know.
He must have just looked, it must have been like,
hey, you look like a guy that got shot at the hotel
three years ago.
Maybe they would throw in a line like that.
He luckily has the kind of face
that of that time was completely forgettable.
It was just a sort of collection of features, but you couldn't really describe
him if you had to. It was a very useful look to have in those days.
Yeah, and if you want to be a bank robber, can you describe the suspect? Not really, just a fella.
He looks like a 1950s man, what can I say? He kind of looks like hoss. He did look a little
like hosh. And Orson Wells if they had a baby.
Not a bad idea.
Well, then we...
He was beautiful, he was beautiful, slender, delicate, gentle like an angel.
Now that's the description of Michael and his mother.
Yeah, beautiful and slender.
Just want to make it clear, I didn't marry no fat chicks.
That's what Feds. Well and they never say her name the whole time. Oh it's
printed on a wooden painted gravestone though. Oh is it? Oh yeah. I didn't see that.
I do have a product line that was inspired by that but. What is it? Well anytime you
need to have an important discussion with? Well anytime you need to have an important
discussion with friends or family you get to have nature's reverie screens
and soundtracks for serious times and discussions with family that's
uncomfortable like your mother was a whore or I committed murder or you know some
you're not getting anything from the inheritance
because we made a mistake in our in our investments or your mom shouldn't have
bought that lake house so oh oh so with your service you can have those
conversations in front of a screen that looks like the ocean or
something like yeah with the sounds and they and so that you it's like
you and you could put a little gravesite there I mean you can kind of pop in
whatever things like might make it more solemn and them none them none num-
but not-do-doo-do-oh. Oh my well that sounds like a good thing people find that at lots
of daughters dot com. Yeah lots of daughters there's also I forgot to write down the name of the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the g g. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I thi can can can can can can't thi can can't the could could could could could tho tho the tho tho the the could could could the the the the the the the the that sounds like a good thing. People find that at lots of daughters.com. Yeah, lots of daughters.
There's also, I forgot to write down the name of the actor,
but the Irish fellow who played Dennis Shields,
Arthur Shields or something like that.
It says here on his page, it says,
though not as well known as his older brother, Barry Fitzgerald,
to which I say, I never heard of him so him him him him him him him him him him him was a fervent Irish nationalist and fought in the Easter uprising of 1916
and was captured and placed in an internment camp in Wales.
That actor who played the newspaper man, Dennis.
Whoa.
And that is another point of my campaign, which is Irish run the media. But not for any episodes
past this one. That fella never is seen again on Bonanza. I don't know. I don't
think he was seen again. Yeah. This one here and then finally we've got Dixie
who was June Jones Staley. She was Playboy Playmate of the Month, November
1958. November 1950, oh did you say that? Yeah, I did. Yeah. She was in Breakfast
at Tiffany's playing the character of blonde and low-cut cream dress. Yeah, did you say that?
That's her that's her role. Yeah, I'm a big fan of hers a big fan of hers she June Staley super fan yeah that's the one she quit acting after a
horse riding accident and then had a had a career as a religious counselor to
troubled teenage boys I kind of fell off her around that time but then I was a
troubled teenage boy and I got real into her if you know what I'm saying so there was a time when a the the tha a tha a tha a tha a tha a tha tha tha tha tha tha tha th I th I tb I th I tho. tho. thi thi thi. I thi. I the. I was a the. I was a thi. I was a thee. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was a to to to to th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. thi. thi. thi the is a treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I'm saying. So there was a time when a troubled teenage boy could go talk about religion with playboy
playmany of the month November 1958. It was probably a lot about try not to
fall off of a horse. If there's anything you can do in your spiritual life
that I guarantee will make your life better. It's don't fall off of a horse.
Yeah, that happened on a set, by the way.
I'm sure they took care of her financially for life.
Well.
I have a new tragedy charm for when you find out your parent is a sex worker.
You're a broken IUD.
You're the, you're a mistake.
And probably put your mom out of work for at least nine months.
Oh, jeez. Well, now hang on one second.
They never do say in this episode that little Joe's mother was a whore.
Or a sex worker or any other thing. All they say, and I quote, is that she was whore, or a sex worker, or any other thing.
All they say, and I quote, is that she was from a part of New Orleans that the sailors
called the flats.
And you are extra, you're extrapolating a lot from that.
Well, it used to be a hilly territory until everybody had so much sex
there that the ground became flat. There's so much street walking it was just
ground down. It's between the two events all of the sex and the street walking
the the heels didn't have a chance. I very much enjoyed a a a the Duke's
authentic New Orleans accent throughout the show.
Yeah.
It reminded me of the work that Nick Cage did for his New Orleans accent in Bad Lieutenant
Colin Port of Call New Orleans.
I love that movie.
I'm gonna have to see that if his New Orleans is anywhere near as good as Lloyd Nolan's
was.
You swear you're in a Popeyes.
Oh.
Wow.
Because yeah, it was really, it was damn convincing.
Well, okay, should we get into this episode?
Is that where we are at this point?
Please, I'm salivating to discuss this episode. Yeah, I should mention that I had the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first to to the first to the first the first to to the first the first to to to the first to the first to to to to to to to to to to toeolen. the to to to to. to. toeolioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioioio. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm.to discuss this episode. Yeah, I should mention that I had an issue with my propane tank and I only saw the
first half of this episode, so I'm real excited to find out what happens.
Okay, all right, no problem.
Well, so this episode begins in Virginia City with a man dressed in black who is limping down
the street, makes his way to the territorial enterprise, which is a terrible name for a newspaper. And in there, already, is not the best.
It's not good.
Joe Cartwright is in there, little Joe.
And this man in black says he's looking for Ben Cartwright.
And we learned that Ben Cartwright is put itself forward to be governor of Nevada.
And but this man, he is just, he's not holding back. He says, Ben Cartwright has no future. to. to. the to. the the the, the, the, the, the, the, is. It, is. It, is. It, is. It, the, the, is. It, is. It, is. It, is. It, is, is, is, is, is, is. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It, is. It. It, is. It. It. It. It, is. It. It, is. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, is, the the the the the the th. It's. It's. It's. It's, is, is. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's. It's not. It's. It's. It's. It's he is just, he's not holding back. He says, Ben Cartwright has no future.
We will smash him.
And, uh, little Joe, little Joe doesn't like to hear that.
And little Joe gets beat up by this fella's henchman.
And the fellas that we've met, we learned our, uh,
uh, Le Duke, what's his name?
Yeah, Charles Le Duke.
Coul is a strong man.
He's a hoss and Orson Wells' baby.
Right.
He punches Little Joe so hard that Little Joe goes flying
almost a hundred yards backwards,
knocking into a file cabinet, knocking all sorts of things over.
The punch is, it should have been, a punch like that in real life would, news crews would show up to discuss. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.coe, tho, thoes, thoomk, thoomorrow, thoes, thoomorrow, thoes, thoes, thoes, their, their, their, all sorts of things over. The punch is, it should have been, a punch like that in real life would, a news crews would
show up to discuss it.
You're right.
That's like if the Hulk punches you.
Tom Cole is a strong man.
So then, uh, they burn the map.
This is the 24th episode to feature the burning map in opening credits.
Little fun fact about this episode. Then we have a little Joe
goes to the hotel for a rematch with Tom Cole. He immediately gets up
after being knocked unconscious and says well I'm gonna walk across the street
and finish this up. Get some more. Yep. And this is where he had, Tom Cole is not in the room now, that he has a conversation with LeDuc,
where it takes LeDuc a very long time
to reveal any information, but he eventually reveals,
if he was gonna say it, he could have said it so much sooner,
but it takes a long time for him to reveal,
that he is from the New Orleans Police Department,
and that Ben Cartwright is wanted for murder in New Orleans.
Right. That's what he's doing here. Can you believe that? This is Ben Cartwright we're talking about.
And had Ben Cartwright hired my Christian political, uh, public relations services called one week's
back, spot, he no one would have ever found out
because we scrub your history. People will never even know
that you looked at a picture of a guinea pig with a knitted wig on.
I might need that because I just googled Playboy Playmate in 1958 November.
Yeah, we erased the entire lifetime of a man who had an improv theater in Calgary.
Amy, why is it called one week spot?
Well, in the episode.
Ben says if you're running for office you have one week weak spot they'll use it to destroy you.
Oh I see.
But but would your service also work if a person had let's say a dozens of weak spots or hundreds of thousands?
What if they had one strong spot and everything else was very weak?
That's the case for most people. No, it's, it's just, it's, that's just as gitch you in the door.
They go, well, there's this one thing.
And then they, and then you go, well, now that that's taken care of, now that my, my one rape charge is erased.
What? There's a couple other things.
I didn't, I didn't return library books for you know, whatever it is a shame and otherwise
spotless record but just this one rape charge.
I mean, come on guys.
Every look at all the rest of the good stuff.
Yeah, that's not a sign of my character. I'm otherwise perfect human being.
Exactly. I did all- But they'll use that to destroy you. He did all the time for the met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met met metam. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the other, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they.e.e.e.e. Ie. Ie. Ie. they. the to destroy you. He did all the time
for the methamphetamine production and distribution, you know. That wipes the
slate clean. Is this the Calgary guy? Well I don't know if I should tell you.
These are clients. Probably not. It's there, it's one week's back. There's no, it doesn't sound like there's much of an expectation of confidentiality based
on what you said already.
Well next we see Ben Cartwright, he's at a fancy party where and he's a fella gets up
and says, Nevada is not a state but it may be soon and when it is, Ben Cartwright should
be our governor. Ben, get up and say a few words. And then, this fellow who's, th is, th is, th is, th is, th. I th is, th. th. th. th is th. th. th is th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's tho, it's tho, it's tho, it's tho, it's tho, it's tho, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's, it's, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. the. tho. tho. tho. It's tho. It's tho. It's thea. It up and say a few words and then Ben gets up and this fellow who's I'm sorry
this fellow who calls for attention is has the most disinterested stance I've
ever seen on someone who was trying to get a tire room to listen to him he's
got his hands in his pockets and he's facing away from everyone. You're right. He looks like he's trying to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to their their their to their their their their their their to their their their their their their. their. He's their. He's their. Hea. Hea. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's. He's. He's. He's. He looks like he's trying to throw his voice maybe and pull a fun trick on the party.
Yeah, that's true.
He's kind of staring at the floor too.
Well then Ben gets up and he's all humble and he says, his speech is, he says, Nevada
is not a state yet, but it may be, and when it is, I'd like to be your governor,
which is precisely what the man introducing him said.
So what I mean, there ain't that much of a platform.
No, but you have to admit that his delivery, his lines of speech to applause break ratio is off
the charts.
Every sentence he utters gets an applause break ratio is off the charts.
Every sentence he utters gets an applause break.
Yeah, right.
And then he's mobbed like the Beatles.
After his speech, he's just mobbed with groupies.
Yeah. They love him.
They love Ben Cartwright.
I like it. It's the Bonanza school of writing when they when they repeat back the
exact thing that the last character just said even in the exact same words
like a Meisner exercise. It is pretty advanced. We all we all hear as
cowboys know about the Meisner technique of theatrical acting right?
What is that? It's a repetition you say something to someone and they say it back to you and then you do that Meisner technique of theatrical acting, right? What is that? It's a repetition.
You say something to someone and then they say it back to you.
And then you do that for about four to five straight hours.
Yeah.
And you pay $185 a pop! A cowboy has to know the Miesner as if as if I don't have saddle soars. And then you just do that, the way Sanford-sner, and the the the the their-s. their-s. their-a-inininininininin, and the way, and the way, and the way, and the way, and the way, and the way, and the way, the way, and the way, the way, and the way, the way, and the the way, and the way, on the range, I am going to act as if I don't have saddle sores.
And then you just do that the way Sanford Miser said you should.
Well, okay, now Ben and Adam,
who was at this fancy party, they come home
and Little Joe lowers the boom.
He says, man, oh man, there's a man in town, Inspector Leuke from New Orleans and he says he's going to arrest you and Ben Cartwright says I'm getting my horse ready I'm headed into he's good
not no delay gonna go right in there and see the man and sure enough he rides
into Virginia City he goes straight to the Duke's hotel room and and they have
they have a long conversation and during which LaDuke is very up front about his
flaws and his difficulties as a man.
He says, I have not, I can't accumulate family and friends or admiration because of this limp.
And we learned, we learned that Simon La Roche and Little Joe's mother back in New Orleans have something going on and Ben shot
Simon LaRoche in self-defense but maybe not and he was cleared but maybe he wasn't cleared
and that's why there's a warrant for his arrest and all that stuff.
But now I want to play you a clip from here because it's very pivotal to the story of
this episode that Le Duke has been shot in the leg and has a limp and blames Ben Cartwright for it, but I'm, I watched this scene multiple times to try to understand exactly what happened to Ladook's leg.
So hopefully you'll be able to see and hear this. Here we go.
Do you remember a scuffle in the alley the night I came to arrest you?
We, uh, we had a fight. I knocked you down. You remember hearing a shot?
The Duke you were after me.
You wanted to kill me. I wasn't armed. I ran.
Yes, you ran. I followed you.
In the dark I fell and the bullet ended my leg.
I'm sorry I didn't know that.
I...
What does that mean?
It means he's a clumsy clots.
It sounds like he kneeled on a bullet.
Yeah, maybe that was it.
He fell down, there was a bullet in the alleyway,
and he fell down with enough force that it went into his leg and gave him a limp for the rest of his life.
And I assume that Ben Cartwright has dropped this bullet.
And maybe he threw the bullet at Le Dugue because he knew that Le Duke when he came to arrest
him was just going to kill him for some reason. And he said, I got to slow this guy down, I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th for th for thuint for thuint for the the the the the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the the the the the the' the the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the' the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the an theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee an the the the came to arrest him was just going to kill him for some reason and he said
I got to slow this guy down for a bullet at him and I guess it worked because he's
LeDuc goes down to his knees and kneels right on the bullet and I can only imagine it's
got to be like the frontier version of stepping on a Lego.
Oh yeah. Well they made it,. The bullet's still in his shoe.
That's why he's limping so much.
Take off your damn boot, Laduke.
And perhaps in the accident it also caused LeDuc
to talk like Tennessee tuxedo.
From who was from New Orleans?
Famously so. Famously so.
Well, all right, so now one thing we understand is that a Ben Cartwright is trying to run
for governor, but there's something in his past about his old New Orleans wife and this
fellow named Simon LaRosh and so he goes straight over to the tennis, what is it called?
The territory territory enterprise.
Territorial Enterprise. What is it called the territory experimenter? Territorial enterprise.
And he says, he dictates a withdrawal from the governor's race.
And so ends Ben Cartwright's political career because he doesn't want all that stuff about
his old wife dragged out into the mud, into the lie today or whatever.
And what is her name? Her name is Marie. Oh! That's what's painted on that
wooden gravestone by the same. But they never say it. No, they never do so that's true.
They can't speak her name she was a lady of the night. It's to say it's too a sacred and profane of a name to mention out loud. Yeah, you can't say the name of a prostitutor.
You might as well have had sex with her.
Yep, and then you got to call one week's, Bob.
Well, so now he, Ben goes back to the Ponderosa and the boys don't think he should
have resigned, but this is where he says, well, if there's one breath of scandal, your opponents will use it to destroy you.
And now we learn that there's something he's never told his sons about Marie.
The one thing he's never told his sons.
It's the one thing he's ever withheld from his children.
He has told absolutely everything else.
I have a tragedy charm also for people have experienced the sudden reveal of a second
family by their father it's just a state of Arizona because that's why the
second family always is.
That family secrets. I didn't know that if you've got a second family's
I didn't know that if you've got a second family you're always going to
them in Arizona. Oh I see. Yeah they got a special tax cut for second
families down there. Yes you can splurge on your your main family wherever you
live. But you've got to cut a few corners with the second. Yeah there's got to be a
hard life. I feel bad for those guys. All right well now he, so now he goes on to tell
the story, sort of kind of he does
explain that Marie was slender and that's helpful.
And he says that little Joe's mother used to live in the neighborhood that the sailors called
the flats and then he says that La Roche was going to blackmail her about her past. And then he says that Le Roeche was going to blackmail her. And then he says that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all that, all right, all right, all right, all right, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that LaRoche was going to blackmail her about information about her past.
And then he says that he went and confronted LaRoche and the Roche pulled a knife on him and
Ben shot him in self-defense.
And what else? And then he ran away instead of stand in trial because Ben Cartwright didn't
want to stand up in a courtroom and say, my wife is a prostitute and this guy was going to tell all of you.
And so I killed him or whatever.
This is also from the Bonanza School of Writing where all of the action is told to you
about characters that will never appear in the story for around 40s to 90 seconds.
Is it possible that we're watching
a Rosencrantz and Guildenstern type series
about a show that's actually very action-packed?
This is an excellent idea for a new reboot of Bonanza,
called Bonanza, Everyone Else.'s it's all the people
that they've talked about all these amazing adventures that they're having.
Yeah Hopsing and Chub were here.
I want to see the death of all three of their mothers. Yeah me too.
I could have I- Talk about Bonanza fan fiction,
which we've been talking about on Bonus Nanza.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Well, because I could imagine a show about what Ben describes here, where he's got two boys
from two other dead wives, and now he's got a boy from his latest,
not yet dead wife, but she's got a checkered past and then he's got to throw down with this fellow
who's blackmailing her and while you're watching that show you might think to yourself when it ends,
I wonder what life is like for these characters 25 years in the future.
And Bonanza is that show.
Fantastic. Well now, Little Joe goes goes to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to the the the that's the their that show. Fantastic. Well now, little Joe goes out to his mother's grave by the sea and he's weeping.
And then, I don't know, he must have been sitting there at the grave going, I didn't know
you was a whore.
Or what's the conversation?
Who knows? He doesn't say anything out loud.
Then he goes into town. Oh, no? He doesn't say anything out loud. Then he goes into town.
Oh no, he doesn't go into town, but we go into town and we see. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry,
but I must bring this up. There is, and this is going to be a spoiler if you're going to watch this show, but there is a show called Yellowstone
that is very popular starring the movie star Kevin Costner, but there is a scene in, I believe it is the
fourth season, the third of fourth season, where a character... Is this a good show? Because I ain't seen it,
and are you really going to spoil it? I am going to spoil this, and I hope that's okay to take
off your headphones. I'll give you a signal, I'll give you a signal when it's okay to listen.
I'm gonna sign a promissory note that I will never watch that show.
I even even watched Peter Rabbit one.
All right, what happens in season four of Yellowstones?
A character wants to propose to a woman,
and so he has his mother's coffin unearthed
so he can pry open the coffin and take a engagement ring from her withered dead head.
Before he opens the coffin, there is a discussion with the grave digger about who has done
the embalming so he can be prepared for how she is going to look.
And the...
The, the grave thigger is yours and it was the better embalmer, so she won't look too too t look. And the grave figure is yours and it was the better embalmer so she won't
look too bad. Then the, the, the, this cowboy has a conversation with his mother's corpse
in the coffin, including holding her hand and apologizing for cursing.
Well that's how beautiful.
It makes one wonder what do the producers of this show want me to feel about this
demented act.
Turns out my headphones have a lot of bleed, so I...
You heard it anyway.
Now, is it that someone asked a dead parent the permission to marry their kid?
No.
No, he didn't even have that.
You're in the clear then.
Wow, well, I'm curious.
You'll know when it's happening, you will know when it is happening.
This is like Bone Tomahawk.
No, Bon Tomahawk, I feel as if the events in Bon Tomahawk, there is one event where you
think, oh, this is the terrible thing I've been warned about, but immediately after, you know,
oh no, this is the terrible thing. I can assure you that when
this scene is taking place you will know exactly what is happening. Okay, let's
just, I'm not going to spoil it, but I am going to say it kind of backs up my
contention of over many years that everybody should be buried naked.
Just 100, don't don't, just naked bodies, period, down there in the graves.
Why?
Partly because if somebody turns out to be a vampire, you'll at least slow them down a little
bit when they come out.
Because they'll be hiding the genitals.
Yeah, they're going to have to find a cape and a medallion.
They'll come out of their graves, embarrassed.
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Yeah, gotta get some payments.
They'll steal a terry cloth bathrobe off a clothesline
and have to wear that around town for a little while.
Humiliating.
Okay, all right, here we go now.
What, oh, all right. So, yeah, we're in the bar with Dixie, and she's th, and she's th and she's th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're th. they're th. th. to to to to to to to to to to t. to to to to to to to the. to the. to they're the. they're with Dixie and she's coming on to LeDuke and
Ladook is like forget it and he says to her child if you got to know me you to hate me
And then he limps out of the bar which is quite a thing for a person to say about themselves
Now I think it speaks volumes about
Le Duke self-loathing which seems to drive him at every turn when the Duke tells, tells tel tel tel tel tel tel tel tel tel tel he tel he to he he to to to to to he to to to he to to to to the to to the to the the the to to to to the to the the the to the the to the the the the their to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. tho. tho. thi. thi. toda. tell. the tell. the the tell. the the the tell. the too. too. too. too. too. too. the hing which seems to drive him at every turn. When LeDuc tells you who he is, believe him.
Yeah.
In this case, it's like the fifth time.
He's basically told us that about himself.
This is the shortest amount of time, though, that he's able to...
That's true.
Yeah, you're right.
Very efficient.
Back at the hotel now, Little Joe shows up to talk, not
to kill, but to talk to LeDuc. I don't know what he was going to say, but Cole shows up
and there's fisty cuffs and Joe has no choice but to kill Tom Cole with his gun.
After an amazing fist fight where Tom Cole is smashed into the wall so hard that it shakes the entire building seemingly.
Yes, it does. I know. It shakes it and at some point, like, you can almost hear the boom man going,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ha ha ha ha ha. I got a job to do. What are you doing here?
I'd rather that you were replaced than this microphone.
You're only-
How many cups of coffee and lit cigarettes were bumped off the back of that flat?
It does seem that the show is so static in so many ways.
It does seem like it would be very easy to fire actors that you didn't.
You weren't enjoying their performances and just say,
let's, it's only three scenes,
let's get this guy out of here and get a new guy in.
You probably could, yeah.
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uh, uh, Leuke does a good job looking on the bright side right away. I mean, his friend
just got killed, but he says, aha! Now, I'm gonna drag you into court and testify under oath that your mother was a prostitute.
He's always seeing the angles.
Now back at-
I didn't, I didn't quite understand how he thought he was going to steer his testimony towards
saying that Little Joe's mother was a sex worker in this murder trial.
I'm not sure, I'm not sure.
But he was excited to have it read into the official court record.
This guy just wants it to be written down.
I guess so.
I have a service that I provide where I make customer service calls for you.
I call Southern California Edison and AT&T, and I do defensive customer service where as soon as anything gets
confusing or they make it about it maybe it's your fault I shoot the phone
it's so strange.
That's a great idea because that son of a bitch on the other end of the line
suddenly goes you know I mean they
might not feel it, but they'll understand.
Oh, they'll get innocent.
I've been shot symbolically.
Also on this Yellowstone show at one point a character shoots a wind chime with a shotgun.
Wow.
Oh man, that's the biggest spoiler I could imagine.
Damn. You can get the time to th the the th th th th th th th ththe biggest spoiler I could imagine. Damn. No, it's such-
Take off my headphones.
It's such a great, it's such a great moment
you will still enjoy it just as much.
But will I know when it happened?
Yes, you will.
Okay, all right.
Don't tell me who James Corden plays.
James Corden's in Yellowstone?
I feel as if Amy is conflating Yellowstone with yellow
tail and cotton tail.
Oh well that's, she can't be alone in that.
Gotta be a common confusion.
But it's the same show as Yellow Jackets, right?
Yes. It's part of the yellow verse.
Yeah. With Yogi Bear the yellow verse. Yeah.
With Yogi Bear too?
That's right, and cold play.
Wow.
Hey, and Curious George's friend.
Oh yeah.
But just his hat.
So.
Okay.
Now Ben Cartwright tells Little Joe you're going to turn yourself in for that for shooting time call. You're not going to run away to to to to run away to run away away away away away away away away away away away away away away away to run away away away to run away to run away to run away to run away to run away to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too too too too too too too too too to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they. they. they. theya theya theya. theya. their their their theye.a. their their their their the the the the the toogeguea.a. you're going to turn yourself in for shooting
Tom Cole, you're not going to run away to spare the dignity of your dead mother just
like I did back when I left New Orleans without a trial and so on and so forth.
And now we're in Virginia City, Little Joe turns himself in and that's when Ben Cartwright
goes to LeDuke and he offers him a deal. He says, hey, if you go down to sh a to the sheriff to the sheriff to the sheriff the sheriff to the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff to s the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff the sheriff to s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sc.. He, to show, tom, tie, tie, tel, tel, tell, tell, t. Hea, t. t. t. t. t. t. t. I, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t. He, t. He, t. He, t. He, t. I, t. I, t. I, te. I, te. te. tel. tel. te.e. tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell,uc and he offers him a deal. He says, hey, if you go down to Sheriff's Office and say,
Little Joe shot Tom Cole and self-defense, I will come back with you to New Orleans and
face possible justice for killing Simon LaRosh.
And that is the best job I ever did of explaining a scene in this show.
I'll tell you right that.
That's real good.
That was a lot of information. I'll take a break now.
That was like an episode of Bonanza.
That right there was.
So sure enough, oh, too many things happening on screen.
A lot.
That's what I mean, though.
Your recounting of it was like an episode of Bonanza.
Touche.
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Now, Laduke goes to the sheriff's office and he says, hey, yeah, I was wrong.
Little Joe shot in self-defense, everything's fine.
And now Ben is going to ride off to New Orleans and he's agreed to go unarmed all alone,
just him and a horse with the Duke all the way back to New Orleans and and
and so they do they set off and they have a campfire scene and that's when
LaDuke tells that very very funny story about the fellow cooked himself a
meal but then had to get hung before he could eat it. That's a good one.
Never gets old. Yeah funny. It's funny. And then LeDuc complains bitterly again about how the limp has ruined his life.
And Ben Cartwright says, you're blaming your knee for all of your problems.
And then he drops right off to sleep just like a light switch been turned off.
But, but Laduke pledges that he will not sleep again until Ben Cartwright is dead.
That's crazy.
Wow, why does this guy?
This trip is, you can also take this trip to Elder Hostel,
where a man in his 70s leads you at gunpoint through a desert area for, on your way to a city in the
distance, and then until a point where it seems like he's going to kill you. But he doesn't. And the relief you feel the the relief you feel you feel you feel the relief you feel you feel the relief you feel you feel you feel the relief you feel you feel the relief you feel the relief you feel the relief you feel the relief you feel the relief you feel the relief you feel to feel to feel that he that. that. that that that. that that. that. that. that. that that's that's that's that's this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this. this this. this this this? this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. long long long time. ti. ti. thi. long long this this this this this this this this to to a city in the distance and then until a point where it seems like he's gonna kill you,
but then he doesn't, and the relief you feel is vacation in itself.
Did you say elder hostel?
It's an elder hostel trip, have you ever been?
No, what's elder hospital?
You just have to be over 50?
It's like club med for people who went to the Ivy League?
Oh! It's like club med for people who went to the Ivy League. Oh, who like to walk, have walking shoes and sticks.
Oh, that sounds wonderful.
Sorry, I didn't mean to make a reference no one would get.
No, no, no. I've never done that.
Speaking of which, why doesn't this guy make something out of his limp instead of complaining just like Kaiser Soze?
Oh, what did Kaiser Soze make out of his limp?
Well, he had a limp, but he still built up a crime empire.
He spun a whole wonderful story that we all got to see on screen. It was like a reverse bonanza.
Isn't his limp? His limp is the thing that made him get slowly up the ladder using
only one and a half of his legs and angrily?
Because that seemed to be how he still succeeded and became an inspector.
He became, Inspector Sosey, he became so successful that by the end of the story he didn't need
the limp anymore.
Oh no!
Inspector Sosey, I never even met her Sosey.
Listen, if you go up a ladder with one and a half legs, you end up going in this vertical
circle.
What is this true detective? Well, that broke my brain.
Vertical circles.
Well, all right now, what happens?
So they get their night sleep by the campfire, and then the next morning they're getting on their horses and poor old limpy Laduke can't get up on that horse because his leg hurts and his horse
wanders away and that is when I'm gonna show you this clip now that's when
Laduke he says I'm gonna shoot you in the leg just so you could see what it feels
like to Ben Cartwright and he's about to do it when there comes to be an attack on them by Native American
People's People. And so I'm going to show you this here, open this clip. Ready? Here we go.
I think I'll put a bullet through your leg so you'll know how it feels. All right, get over. You have another gun? This will do it.
Oh, he's right.
Yeah.
Watch this!
Oh no!
Oh, ooh.
Oh, oh!
How's that for a stunt?
That was something else.
This is called a Marie condo scene where you
you put more elements in it to see what you enjoy and then you take all of it
out so that you put in three Native Americans and leave it through horses then you
take all six of them out because that's all you really need you to see the two guys walking.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
The goal of this scene is to end up with the LeDuke and Ben Cartwright
having to walk 20 miles through the desert.
And you can really feel the calm of that, after the most deafening gun fight in television
history. Everybody had the same gun and they turned the gun volume all the way up and snapped
off the knob.
Well that was the sound guy pissed about the set from the boom from before.
He says, I'll show you.
Now you'll get it.
How did it show him?
Oh, I ain't got that far.
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Yeah. The sound of that fella fallen down that hill was really like if you
was to drop like a few oranges down a wooden staircase. Yeah. That's how we do
it in the movies. Wow. Oh you do your own sound? I personally oversee and execute all of the folly for every one of my films.
Wow.
Sometimes all you need...
Even for that lieutenant to Porta Call New Orleans?
That's right, my most used piece was a nice wet shammy.
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Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it. do it.
Sure, do it.
Hold on one moment.
Do it.
It's taking too long.
Hurry up.
Do it.
You should have been ready.
Whoa, you did that with two coconuts.
That's an iron horse.
You didn't specify.
I'm alarmed that that was within arms reach. I have two. Yeah. If anything he
had to push it farther away to grab it. It was like on his belt. You're catching me in my
sound powless. Powles. Sound powless. It's on a monopoeia. Exactly.
I like you muttta tailor. I like you. I like you, I like you,
Matt Taylor. I'm almost called you Mutt-Lang. Oh, the perfidious record producer
who won't, if you take a picture of him, he'll force you to buy it, he'll buy it back
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So he can seduce his wife's friends over and over again?
I think so. I've never heard of this man.
Oh, it's this story of Shania Twain. Yeah. Oh, he also is the hit record producer of all the great deaf leopard albums. It's true.
Wow. And he is an actual dog. That's why he doesn't want the pictures out there.
Yeah, because he thinks scientists will dissect him. And so we do not make
obscure references. No, shut up. No, that's right. I think the dogs would make a good record producer with their very
sensitive hearing. That's true.think the dogs would make a good record producer with their very sensitive hearing.
That's true.
It's true.
All right.
Dog songs.
Have you ever heard a Gibbon sing?
No.
I never have, no.
Ah, ah.
Ah, ah.
I didn't know we're about to.
That's beautiful.
It puts me in mind of immigrant song by Led Zeppelin.
Did a Gibbon sing that part of the song?
No one will ever know there are no pictures.
No picture.
A Gibbon will tear your head off.
On this we agree. And your gen your genitals. Yeah, but I agree. I'll
tell you, if a given was to tear my head off while singing that song, that would be the
way to go. I'll tell you. And if a given would tear my genitals off while singing that song,
that's not so bad either. Yeah, if that happened, I might then say can you also do the head?
Not me. Thank you very much. How much for a package deal? Yeah. Yeah. All right, so now
we got two man on foot. One of them's got a limp from falling hard on a bullet 20 years earlier.
I looked it up and to walk from Virginia to Louisiana, it's only 377 hours.
Wait a minute though, it's Virginia City, Nevada. Is that how you looked it up?
It's probably longer than... Yeah. Longer than...
A trip from Virginia City to Louisiana.
I've been hiking with you.
Gorgeous, beautiful.
Thank you.
Well, what's his name?
Laduke can't go no further.
He says, I can't go no further.
And Ben says, but we have to get to water.
And so they go on.
And then they get all the way to some place where they're real hot and dirty and it looks like a
LeDuke is going to shoot Ben Cartwright. Why I don't know he's so delirious
from heat and thirst. He's not going to make it. He knows he's not going to make it.
Oh that's it. So he says I'm going I just want you to die anyway why am I going through all this trouble you you know it's like you know it's like when when when when when when when when when the like when the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. he's like he's like I's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's he's he's he's they. he he he he he he he they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I the they. I true true true. I'm true true. I'm true. I'm true. I'm they. I'm they. the the the the the the the the the more than you need to do and you're like what what's wrong with me I'll just shoot you here yeah yeah so he's about to shoot him
but then just like how those Native American peoples were right on time in
the nick of time with their gunfire before Le Duke could shoot Ben Cartwright
this time he loses consciousness right just in the moment before he's
about to pull the trigger. It's real lucky for Ben and he goes down like a sack of potatoes and then Ben puts him
on his back and how would you describe this carry it?
It's a strange way to carry it around.
Real quick, since I didn't see this, I can't believe I miss the most exciting episode
where the episode climax is in a man falling asleep.
What a day new ma.
This old man dozes off and the other old man catches him, then sort of leans him against a rock
and then gets a better handle on him to drag him away.
Does he tuck him in or read him a little story?
He kind of like, no, he like, yeah.
It's a move from Mexican wrestling called El Baraccio.
Okay, I knew somebody could explain it.
Okay.
Oh, just to clarify, it would be 697 hours of a walk.
Um, 1,174 hours by bike.
But back then, it been a penny farthing.
Yeah.
True.
Those are good on rocky truy.
Yeah.
No, no way.
Well, they just had to get 20 miles to the nearest way station where there's going
to be some water or settlement or something like that.
One thing they never mentioned about this man's disability or how he's differently able is
that it's not just a limp, it's a studied limp.
And how that can be so, there just aren't ramps for that.
Of course, because the concentration that it takes to keep up a studied limp and to try to remember
at what angle was my foot last time, that's harder than up a studied limp and to try to remember at what angle was my
foot last time, that's harder than just a regular old limp, isn't it?
I can tell you from personal experience because I've been watching them scream movies.
Now David Arquette's character gets shot or stabbed in the leg and every movie afterwards
he's got to do a limp and boy does he. He really does a limp. I mean that's a full-body lip
How many scream of movies are there? Well five total as of this weekend and David Arquette is in every one of them? Oh, yeah
Huh, he's in the new ones? Is he crank? Is he crank? Is he cranky? Is he cranky? Is he cranky? Is this character cranky along with the study clip? He's wide-eyed and guileless. He's Dewey.
Isn't that something? He didn't like the limp ruin his life like Inspector Laduke did.
Is he blaming everyone else for the limp like this guy does?
No, nor is he creating a persona of crime, a Turkish criminal. Or wasn't he?
Croatian or Kaiser Sosa? He was a Hungarian. Hungarian, that's right. Yeah. I know the
the actor who played the translator in the hospital when the guy is yelling, they're screaming at
the top of his lungs, Kaiser Soze.
Then the nurse, his name is Ken Daly, and he in real life spoke Hungarian,
because his mother was a Hungarian immigrant, and he once told me that
she used to frighten him by coming towards him and going, B. B.
She would put her hands up and just make this noise.
Buh, and it would terrify him.
What?
Well, I should have known this because I once dated a girl who spoke Hungarian and she taught
me the Hungarian word, igan.
And he says that in that movie and I always go, I bet he's Hungarian.
What does that mean?
Oh, I don't tho tho tho th don't th tho I don't thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu don't know I just remember the word. It must have been about the lighting when she said but. You were you are incurious as to
what the word meant. Actually this is true I believe egon means I know. I know it
means I know. You believe you believe it means I know. You believe it means I know.
You believe you believe it means I know. You believe you say I go. You believe. You don't you say I know. I don't egon that egon means I know. I know it means I believe. Yes.
Wouldn't you say I gone I gone? Oh I don't know for I don't egon for a fact that
egon means I know but I believe egon means I know. Because also a guy says it and teaching
you'd have to say e don't gone for a fact.
He's gone.
And I don't think you can say that somebody taught you a word in a different language if
they did not go on to tell you what the word means in your own language.
That's my opinion.
You do you, you some, bitcher.
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carrying Leuke 20 miles through the desert on his back.
But we're gonna do it. And sure enough, he pulls him this whole damn way to this way
station and and as soon as some water goes down the gullid of that Leuke, he peps right up. And he says, why didn't you leave me there to die in the desert?
And Ben Cartwright says, well, I can't do that.
And then Ben says, come on, let's go on to New Orleans.
And LaDuke says, no, look, I was never really going to take you there.
This arrest warrant is not genuine.
And it's true, your name was the name was th was their was thua was to to their was clear to murder a long time ago and I was just going to kill you on the way
But now I can't because I don't hate you anymore and you can't kill them and you don't hate so never mind
Oh, it's a quick wrap up
We can't kill without hating and the hating is done.
The end.
Hey, wait a minute.
My screen's been tooking over by a Hungarian word.
I did a Hungarian to English dictionary search and put in Egon.
And Egon in Hungarian according to Google Translition in English means Igon.
Let's hear, let's hear that pronunciation.
Oh yeah.
I have to reshare with my sound, but it'll be worth it, I'm sure, hold on.
Now I want to know where was that girlfriend really from.
Again.
Again.
Again.
Again.
Again.
Why is it screaming?
Why is it screaming? Again. Again. Why is it screaming? Again.
Again.
Where did they find her?
She sounds so sad.
Sorry, I didn't mean to railroad that, but I thought we ought to clear that up.
Well, but may I'm mutt.
Oh, egon.
Mout.
Can you go my name is mutt. Can you find out how one was to say I know in Hungary?
I tried it wouldn't let me enter it. Maybe, oh let me switch.
What? Forbidden. It is forbidden to know. Oh no, I know is too dumb. To dumb. Hold on. I'm doing pretty. Too dumb. Too dumb. Too dumb. I'm doing pretty. Too dumb. What is he gone? Is that? Too dumb. Too, too dumb.
Hold on.
I'm doing pretty.
She's saying you were too dumb to understand.
Oh, what is he too dumb?
Teach me something in Hungarian and she taught you too dumb and then didn't tell you
admit.
Oh no.
Oh shit.
Also my track stopped recording. I did. I did. I did.
I decided somebody from the Czech Republic who I thought they taught me to say
hello and in fact they taught me how to say watch out fantastic blueberries.
Oh. What? Do you know the only phrase I learned in Italian is non-tropo yacco and it means not
so much hairspray.
The only thing I know how to say in German is those are not my pants. Dosts Nick Dinohosen.
Oh yeah. Accident needs work. Uh, no, I don't agree. My congratulations to you. Well, okay. So that's how that episode
ends. It just wraps on up and poor Ben Cart right now. He's lost his horse and he's
got to somehow make it back to Virginia City. That's going to be a hell of a journey.
I don't know what's going to happen to LaDuke from this point forwards. I just don't know. I just don't know. But the end on a, it's a happy ending. LeDuc says,
okay, time for me to come clean on 20 years worth of lies. But that's how it all
wraps up. It makes you wonder if if the resolution was, means perhaps this was a
backdoor pilot for a Le Duc solo show. Oh wow I'd
watch that and I hardly did. We really got to know him but also it makes me
wonder how long was LeDuc planning on riding with Ben Cartwright before killing him.
Did he have a certain spot in mind that he thought would be fun to shoot him there?
Or how was he going to get right outside of New Orleans and then say, aha, and then kill
him?
Yeah, it was taking his sweet time. Well, what do you expect from a bad lieutenant, Port of
Call, New Orleans?
That title just rolls off.
Not your teeth or tongue.
No, tongue.
Well, with that, my friends, I am sorry to tell you,
there's only 407 episodes left of Bonanza to discuss something.
He gone. If you, let meanza to discuss something. He gone.
He's gone.
If you, let me say to the viewers, if you haven't watched Bonanza before you're in for a real treat,
these episodes just fly by.
They do, don't thanks?
And you notice so many things upon repeat viewing.
And also, I think you would probably also advise that before you declare a holy
war on any television show, check out at least one episode. Guilty as charged. Sure are.
Well, this has been good, Werner Herzog is coming around on Bonanza. Hey, I want
to read before we part, I would just want to read you that the National Cowboy Poetry Gathering
has been canceled this year.
Oh, this is something. And they put out a statement and I'd like to read it to you.
The 38th National Cowboy Poetry Gathering has been called off and a fellow by the name of Waddy Mitchell put out this statement.
He says, we're all disappointed but the board has made a wise decision.
It's like finding the roads washed out when you're headed to to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the board has made a wise decision. It's like finding the roads washed out when you're headed to the yearly dance.
You've got a date and you're on the wrong side and there's nothing you can do about it.
It's no one's fault.
You just have to say, shucks.
We'll try it again next year.
It's like the roads washed out on your wedding day.
It's a black fly in your chaperay.
This this brings the total of people named Wadi that I am aware of up to two.
Really? The famous the famous musician Wadi Wachtel. Oh yeah. Wait a minute, that was him.
Oh no, that was Wadi Mitchell. a energy-saving mascot named Waddy.
Oh, he's like a light bulb. No, he's a big LED light bulb. It's two D's I believe. Is it the same with this?
Not my mascot. This is two D's for Waddy Mitchell, yeah. He could have been a gum mascot. Vote for me for state comptroller and controller.
Because they're almost the same thing, really.
Don't split the votes.
Yeah, no, because we'll only vote.
My other thing is only vote for me.
Or no, no, it's voter suppression.
The only people can vote who are, who are going to vote for me.
Amy, may I suggest a campaign slogan for you?
Yes.
Votes Leverson. She's a total comp-troll freak.
That's, do I need to pay you any sort of fee or, or, or, what I do, an app app an automatic app pay to you monthly for
$3.99 for that idea? The only payment I need is your satisfaction.
You're a comp troll freak in the streets and a control freak in the sleeves.
Huh? Oh I don't know. That one's freak too right Matt. No, that one's going to cost you. Oh really?
Top dollar? Oh, all right. Well, all right. So vote for Amy Sleverson and what else?
Anybody? What do you have coming up? You got anything? I want to plug Wernor?
Well, I was hoping to return to the Mandalorian, but my character appears to be dead.
Perhaps my twin brother will show up on the Book of Boba Feet.
I can't, I shouldn't have said that. Wink, wink. Oh boy.
All right, well don't look for where it hurts. I'll go on the Book of Booby feet.
And what about you, Muk Taylor? Oh, man. All right, maybe. What do I have going on now? Oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to. to. to. to. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. th. t. th. th. th. th. th. the. fuck, no, man. All right, maybe.
What do I have going on now?
I forget, oh, uh, yeah, oh, never matter.
Well, I'm working for the CDC, as you know, killing vampires.
Right, right.
Uh, and I'm working on a book about that.
All right.
All right, Amy Slaverson, anything else you want to tell us about? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, to to to to to to too, too, to too, too, too, too, too, too, they. too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, they. they. too, too, too, too, too, too, too, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. too, they. too, too, too, too, too, too, the the the the the the the the the the tha, thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. too, too, te. too, too, too, too, too, tea. tooe. too, too, too, too, th anything else you want to tell us about? No. Okay, folks.
Oh, there is one quick plug I'd like to make, and that is to our editor, Brett, please listen
to after we're done recording so we can explain how the fuck this episode is going to get
pieced together.
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Take out this, but don't take out this. Yeah, that'll be, that'll clear it up.
All right folks, thanks so much.
So long! Bananas for Bananza is brought to you by Andy Daly.
With Maria Bamford and Matt Gorley.
Theme song by Matt Gorley with The Journeyman, which in this case are Mark McCondville, Daniel
Mitchikoff and Wade Ryan. Bananas for Banza is mixed and edited by Brett Morris
and executive produced by Andy Daley,
Matt Gorley, Brett Morris and Little Scott Acker.
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