Bonanas for Bonanza - Bonanas For Bonanza Episode #41: “Breed Of Violence”

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

Subscribe to The Andy Daly Podcast Project at Patreon.com/AndyDaly Dalton, Mutt and Amy have scored a phenomenal guest to give an insider’s perspective on Season 2, episode 9 - “Breed of Viol...ence”. Kissing injuries and inconclusive brawls abound in this excellent episode of America’s show.Featuring John Ross Bowie, Maria Bamford and Matt GourleyMerch: redbubble.com/people/ADPodProject/shopMail: PO Box 9407 Glendale, CA 91226Email: bonanaspod@gmail.comAndy’s website: andydaly.comRecord date: 4/11/2023 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Academy Award winner Helly Berry. One touch without a robot is all in text. Say it. Never let go. We're the world now. Never let go. In theater September 20th. You're about to listen to Bananas for Bananza episode 41.
Starting point is 00:00:21 This is Andy Daly. Here on this free feed, I'll be re-releasing all of the back episodes of Bananasa for Bananza one every other week. If you want to hear new episodes, add free. Please subscribe to my Patreon at Patreon.com. Sla-Dialy. The entire Bananas for Bananza Archive is also waiting for you there, and you can access lots and lots of bonus content. So do that. Okay, thank you. Enjoy. So consult your TV guide. Get your TV guide. Get your great outdoors inside. Take some ponderosa pride and forever made. So consult your TV guide. Get your great outdoors inside. Take a ponderosa pride and forever made
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Starting point is 00:01:56 Your Pupus are fan favorite. Okay, folks, so you're watching and listening to Bonanas for Bananza. This is the 41th time we've done it. And tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, to to to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's to to to to, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi's tho, tho' tho' to tho' to tho' to tho' to to to thoo' to to to to to Bonanza. This is the 41th time we've done it and today we're talking about Bonanza as we do every time. The greatest television show that there ever was on television. Amen. Debatable. Here, whoa, oh man, wait till you hear it. Lord Almighty, I can't believe it. If you were who you were, yeah exactly. We're talking about season 2 episode 9. It's called Breed of Violence. Man, this episode has everything. It's got gunplay. It's got
Starting point is 00:02:30 multiple real good fistfightings. It's got relational trauma over the course of decades. Multi-generational relational trauma. Yes. And yet it's still got the feeling of every other single Bonanza episode. No women allow. Well, there's, there is a woman in this episode. One woman, but she's not going to last. Nope. She's not going to make it. You can tell.
Starting point is 00:02:54 One time only. But because she's a woman. That's right. She makes it to the end of the episode but it's we're not sure what's going to happen next. Folks, yeah. Yeah, but I've got to introduce our guests because it's going to blow the doors off the place. This is unbelievable. You remember when we had old Dirk Blocker on here, here's the son to Dan Blocker. I believe we said, I believe we went on record is to say, this is the closest we're ever going to get to having a true member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member member the the of of the of of the of of the of of the of of the of of of of the cast, Bonanza on the show. Because if you used to look at all the obituaries and, you know, county records and whatnot, they're all meant to be dead. Folks, our guest today is none other
Starting point is 00:03:37 than unbelievable Adam Cartwright himself. Pernell Roberts is here. Thank you so much. What in the world is going on now? You are, because I double, I double checked it. When I heard, I got from, I got an email from Purnell Roberts at Gmail. Yeah, it was available. Yeah, it was available. You know it's real. Got the underscore there between the Pernel and the Robert.
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Starting point is 00:06:19 he rejected Bonanza and he said nothing but nasty things about Bonanza. Yes, it was beneath my gifts and beneath yours might I say. I played Lear when I was 14. Shit! Wait, how did your three daughter, what were they, preschoolers? Yes. Whoa! That's a young Lear in my opinion. Just so.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Hey, uh, uh, why are you coming out now? Why are you making this public? Why come out of hiding? I've got a cookbook I'm promoting. No shit. Yeah. Okay. I've got a cookbook called Adam's Eats.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Oh, oh, I see. I'm told that podcasts are a viable mode of promotion. So I've come up. I'm doing this. thin. You're doing Marin. Thanks for doing us first. Yeah, not at all, please.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I think he's nearby. Yeah. He's in Glendale. Yeah. Hey, that reminds me and we can edit this. I meant to ask before we started in the last episode of this show that we did. Was that your real phone number? Yeah, we need to know to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. the the the the the the the the the the. No, the thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. No, not tho. No. No. No. No. No. No thu us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us th. No th. No th. No th. No the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th day. I meant to ask before we started in the last episode of this show that we did you gave out your phone number was that your real phone number? Yeah we need to know for editing purposes. Uh huh. Why would you do that? Why would you want to ask? Why would you want to ask later? I'm gonna? Why would you? I like to be called at home? I'm still not clear if that's a yes or no? I'm not. I'm. that. that. that. that's a yes. that's a yes. that's a yes. that's a yes. that's a yes. that's a yes. that's a yes. that's. that's. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Yeah. to. to. that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. I. I. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. Yeah. I. I. I. I. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. I. I'm. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. that. I'm. that. that. that. that. to. that. to. to ask later, I'm gonna ask before we started. That new, that number is now also a tax mental health service.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Oh, that you can, it's called the Don't Get Involved Badder Women's Services for anyone who finds themselves in a, you know, generational trauma situation where maybe you're trapped by a male member of your family. And you just, you just, you just text me. And I won't, you text me, the, tax, tax, and I, tax, tax, tax, to to tax me, tax me, and I, tax me, tax me, tax me, tax me, a, a, a, a, a, a tax me, a to to to to to to to tax me, a tax me, a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tax, a tax, a tax, a text, a text, a text, a text, a text, a tax, a tax, a tax, a tax, a tax me, a tax me, a tax me, taxe me, taxe mental, taxe mental, taxe mental, taxe, taxe, taxe, taxe, tox mental, a taxe, a to trapped by a male member of your family and you just you just text me and I won't respond. I will not respond. Hence the name don't get involved. Yeah, but you know that I'm getting the text. Okay. Are you safe right now? Yeah. Oh yes, I'm very safe. Blink if you don't feel safe. No.
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Starting point is 00:08:55 That's a beautiful service. Can you imagine, you're in a marriage where there's nothing but fighting, to be able to hear on the other end of the phone another couple fighting that make you feel so wonderful and it's muffled you don't feel like oh if they're talking about something we don't relate to right like a pool you can't pick out every word a heated pool if I heard a couple arguing about a heated pool when my problem is I can't find my damn shoes well that I won't relate. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's right. Well, that sounds like a good business. Does make me think a little bit of this episode of Bonanza. the episode of Bonanza cycle of abuse. We've got a young lady who is in this episode more or less enslaved by her father, would you say? That's right. Okay. It's the classic. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. that's th. that's thi. that's thi. thi. thi., but, and you feel that nobody comes to her assistance in this episode? Well, no, not at all. No one came to my assistance.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Lots, what happens is that there's a lot of condescension. And then there's tension building, there's the verbal, violent incident, there's the reconciliation, there's the period of calm and then it starts all over again. Is this the Joseph Campbell circle of heroes or something? What is this? No, it's from the, it's a cycle of abuse found in 1974. Where'd they find it? Well, it's discovered in relationships where there is a habitual violence that people, why people stay.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I thought it was like ancient Mesopotamia or something. They unearthed it. No, it ends usually at a period of calm where somebody suggests to be patient with your father. Oh dear. Be patient and and he's going through a hard time right now. And that's why he has to lock you. Oh right, yeah, there's a lot of that in this episode. Pernell, did you feel that you were in an abusive relationship with Bonanza when you was on the show? I was, that was indeed. Explain to me now. I was not appreciated for my prodigious gifts while I was on the show. Me on that show was like Isaac Stern sitting in with Lurne the the the show. I, the show. I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, there's there's there's there's there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's thi's thii's thii's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi, thi Welk. It was beneath me and again beneath you. Not sure if it's beneath you. Now did you not get along with your two television brothers and
Starting point is 00:11:12 fathers or was there one of them you at least could say something nice about? Hop Singh? Hop Singh was a gentleman and a credit to his people. Lauren Green was an imposter. Oh shit. Did we did we break out for a moment? Did we stop? and a credit to his people. Lauren Green was an imposter. Oh shit. Did we break out for a moment? Did we stop? Go ahead. Let's just forget, ignore me and go on.
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Starting point is 00:11:53 He was from Canada. But you wore a tup as well, ain't that right? I did, but eventually I came to peace with to peace in in in in in to peace in to peace in to peace I came to peace in to peace in to peace with to peace with to peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with peace with the far superior trapper John MD, I was bald and beautiful. And then I realized that once I got out of the grind of show business and escape from the matting crowd, my hair would grow back and it did. And that's something Lauren Green never did because he kept his toup all the way through Battle Star Galake. He absolutely did. Now in what way was Lauren Green not unkind? He would do things like he would walk over to the craft services table. He'd take a bite of a carrot and then put it back. Shit.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Really? How was Michael Landon? Michael Landon was still wetting his bed. No shit. Yeah. Yeah. Well into his 30s? My God. Was there a craft service table for principal talent only and then the extras had to go to another table? That's correct. Fee the they. Was they. Was they. Was their th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. Was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the to. the to. to. the to. to. the to. to. to. the to. to. to. they. the. the. the. the. the.the extras had to go to another table. That's correct. That's correct. Yes. And for that one he would take, he would take whole chunks of Hickama and take bites.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And he would go over to the extras. Lauren would go over to the extras table. Okay. And he would take phone numbers from the, from the Hickama and then put it back and he'd leave half a donut. I'm sad enough to hear that there was Hickama on the set of bananas for Christ's sake. That's a that's a city slicking fruit. Isn't it? Everything grows out here. It's California. I suppose. Now, oh Christ, well let me just say. Let the the live stream stopped for no good goddamn reason. It just went and it stopped itself and it doesn't seem to be any way to get it back on because it is what it was and it ain't what it ain't. You know what I mean? You know if you used Christian live stream services? That's true. Maybe there wouldn't be such a
Starting point is 00:13:39 problem because Jesus is powering it And it all comes from his heart. So his heart. Or at the most, the feed would stop for three days and then come back. Yeah. That's right. And the heart is beating. And that's how the blood gets to your computer. Oh, oh, OK.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Well, I'm starting a new one here. And we'll see if anybody joins up. And I'm sorry to cause these problems and so on and so forth. But anyways, what the people need to understand is that this entire podcast is being technically serviced by a cowboy. And that is not with any cowboys purview, responsibility or mandate. You're goddamn right. Hell yes. All right, we're live streaming, but I don't thin th's halfway there. Hey, Purnell. That's where your teeth so small? Faith is all about My adult teeth didn't come in till I was 88 as far as you were concerned five years dead. Wow. Yeah, All right. A dental anomaly. My God. If I weren't living off the grid, it would be in dental textbooks, but I'm living off the grid. So I'm not making myself available for...
Starting point is 00:14:49 All right, well, why? I got a hygienist out in 29 palms. Pernault was, part of it, were you angry about how you didn't ever get to have a love relationship? That was one of many things. I also just felt the scripts were beneath us. And I'm also horrifically light in this episode, which I think is one of the reasons the episode drags quite so much. They spend far too much time with the young lady and not enough with this guy who's on some sort of bizarre wolfhunt or something.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You got a high opinion. I should mind. You should mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind mind. . the thap. thii, thu. thi. thi, thi. I thi, thi. I thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-a. throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thea. thea high opinion? Both. Okay. What did you think Bonanza was going to be? What did you imagine the experience was going to be a dark exploration of the human frontier that was going to be sponsored by Woolite? And Woolite didn't come across? I guess not. All right. Slits Playhouse came across that didn't do it for you. You didn't see the dynamics of the control and power wheel from the domestic abuse intervention projects. We keep talking about domestic abuse. Is that the storyline that I'm not in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because here's what I would do. I would take out the pages that I was on, highlight those, and then hit the links. You guys had highlighters back then?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Well we didn't have highlighters, we used blood. Oh Lord! Well, I like that. That's kind of cool. I like it. I'm just trying to make it easier for your 21st century delicate snowflake ears. You're damn right. I would prick my finger and just rub it across my lines. You don't have to tell us. Look that's a lot like a vampire to me. Yeah, that's. that's. that's. that's. the. the. the. the. that's. the. the. the. th. that's. the. that's. the. that's. that's. the. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. That's. That's. That's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's. that's. that's. that's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. that's a lot like a vampire to me. That seems suspicious. All right. Listen, I just wanted to sum up the, just put a period on the end of the live stream business that we tried to live stream this episode. We've got 11 minutes and 50 seconds in and it stopped and now we're no longer live streaming and for a little while there I was t, that's true. Yeah, we can. Some of us are disrobing as we speak.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It could be. Well, all right, but I'm glad that those folks who saw it saw a little bit of it, but now let's talk about this episode. You're ready to get into this episode. Yeah. We do always start a little bit by tod the the episode aired. It was November the 5th of 1960. You remember November the 5th of 1960, Pernell? It was a simpler time. It was, I suppose. It was a Saturday anyway. And the number one
Starting point is 00:17:13 movie in the country was of course Ben Hurd? Oh God. Did you did you like Ben Hurd when it came out? Did you see? Were you one of the people who went and saw that movie. Everybody loves it. Apparently. I thought it was going to be a deep examination of the class hegemony in ancient Rome. It was just another Charlton Heston vanity project. I lost interest. God damn. What do you like? Real snob? That's the word. Do you like anything? Gunsmoke? Deadwood? Deadwood's okay for the first season. Oh man, he's one of these Deadwood boys. Son of a bitch. I hate that show. Number one country song in the country was of course Alabama by cowboy copas. This is just how it is. Number one song in the country coming back from the dead. Save the last dance for me by the drifters came back. Last week it was something else now this is their back which we established a couple weeks ago to save last the last for me is a
Starting point is 00:18:12 beautiful song about a man who sees his lady get banged sideways by every other man and says that's fine as long as I'm last. It's something about fucking. Or it could be a warning. What you're the one not I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. It. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. that. that. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the their. It was're the one I'm coming, you're going home with me and it may, you know, as a service situation like you, yeah you can do that for now, but you're coming home with me and no, it's, you don't have a choice about it. You don't have a choice about it. Right. You can go on a little room springer, but in the end, it's gonna be you and me. That's right. Exactly. Which is why I'm just reminding everyone that lots of daughters is having a spring special on jewelry and it's breakaway jewelry. That's jewelry that
Starting point is 00:19:03 wherever you wear, if it's touched, it will detach. Because often the person you're killed by is the person in your own home. The top cause of injury from women from the age of 15 to 44 is domestic. So, you guys, I'm sorry I'm not more fun on this episode. So what we do is necklaces, you know, things that you might be scared to wear that your spouse might hurt you with, but not in this case because it breaks off. But you know who was wearing that was Batman's mom.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Remember when they got killed and all their pearls fell off? Oh, scattered pearls in the alleyway of Gotham City. Oh, that's next week's number one. I tell you I tell you what so that's a good now explain for me now you're so your lady and you're wearing a one of these breakaway necklaces and you're getting murdered by your husband correct? Yes. And now how does the breakaway nickels come in a hand? Well what happens is you're wearing something cute because you had been in a moment of call you just made up and everything was going great because you sewed his shirt so well and he was happy with you and then suddenly he saw that one of the buttons wouldn't go through the the button
Starting point is 00:20:18 hole and he started to get a little irritated and then he said are you trying to make me look dumb. And then he grabs you by the by to get a little irritated. And then he said, are you trying to make me look dumb? And then he grabs you by the breakaway jewelry and, oh, you're okay. And you just, you run outside. And now, the thing is, you could also wear one of my, it's, it's, um, clothing for the relationship that's traveled. That's high necked outfits, full body hats, with two holes to see out of. So a burka. Well, it is a burka, but it's a hat. It's a hat.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Okay. And then we can, we also have an- This is also good if you don't want to get sun on you, right? That's right. Okay. And if we also have an inflated house that you can wear so that when you go to the store you won't be lying that you haven't left the house. Amy, are you wearing a chip clip in your hair? That's right. My my my that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's thathea. thathea. thatheatheathea. thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheathea. the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. to. to. that's that's that's to. that's that's that's that's thate. to spend a lot of money on outside purchases.
Starting point is 00:21:29 We do a lot of, he does a lot of fishing ads. So I just use what I have and that's what, um... If I... There are several chip clips in your hair. It looks to me like one chip clip and two jumper cable alligator clips. That's right. Well, it keeps back your hair. And it's also, it's just, it's street wear.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, well, you do look like a young person. I thought, well, man, who's this teenager coming in to see us? So yeah, it's working. Your style's working. Fantastic. Don't hyperventilate that. You're all? So, yeah, it's working. Your style is working. Fantastic. Don't hyperventilate that. You're all right?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Get a paper bag. Hook up some power cables from those alligator clips. Let's give her a... I'm not young. But you look like you are. All right. Say, Lesz. Hey, celebrity birthdays.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Born on November the 5th, 1960 was two Europeans. One of them was the Dutch pop singer Renee Froser from the band, DeToppers, and the other was Tilda Swinton. Oh, yeah. You heard of that one, huh? Yeah. Tilda Swinton, did you know that her father was the Laird of Kimmer game house and the Lord Lieutenant of Berwickshire? Sure. I did.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I did know that. You didn't know that. Yeah, that's pretty common knowledge from where I come from. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. She's a bit of a Berwickshire fan boy. Swindon head. You are? Oh, we don't need that anymore. We'll, uh... It's a real, this is a real tight one to. She's a tall drink of milk.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. That tell the swinth is? Yeah. Yeah. She's, uh, she's got a strange, how'd you describe her face? It's alabestors. Yeah. Opolescent and translucent? You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. thi. thi. This is a this. This is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a. This is a. This is a. This is a this is a this is a this is a this is a th. This is a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. This is a th. th. thi. This is a thi. This is a thi. This is a thi. thi. This is a thi. This is a thi. This is a this is a this is a this is a this is aucent in a sort of way. Opolescent and translucent. You know what she's like is one of them, from Prometheus, those engineers, but with hair, you know, where you can kind of marbled skin that you can kind of see through in a way.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Light comes through. Is that a movie or a TV show? That's a movie. It's a movie. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien movie. the alien movie. You the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thian the the the thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thian. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien. It's an alien th. don't know that movie. I can't picture her hair. Well, she has a kind of, how would you describe it? It's like a- Does she ever have her own hair? I'm trying to think of a film where she's not been in a wig. Michael Clayton. No, that's your hair. No, you're right. George Clooney. You're always getting them mixed up. Yeah, I am. I'm sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 All right, well, she was born. Also on that day, November 5th, 1960, Johnny Horton, American Country and Rockabilly Singer died in a car accident. Now, he's a guy brought us the Battle of New Orleans. And his widow at the time, she was already widowed by what's his name Hank Williams Sr. You imagine this one? She's 33 years old. She married Hank Williams Sr. and he died on her. Wait, was she the one that supposedly kind of killed him or let him die in the back of that car, his first wife? Well, Hank William Sr.? Yeah. I'm not familiar with the accusation.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Well, there's just a lot of people that say he kind of, she kind of drunk him to death. Yeah. And I don't the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th is th is th is just th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, was thi, was th. th. th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was that that that that that that that that that that's th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, was th. Was, th. thi. thi. Was thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. you know it actually probably is an accusation it doesn't age with. Well alcoholism is always someone else's that's true yeah yeah that is true and she was the one who drove him to drink after all yeah what was the date November the 5th of 1960 yeah I was gearing up to vote for Nixon. Oh damn you did huh you voted for Richard Nixon 1960. Every possible chance I know in 1960, 64, 68, 72, 76 I wrote him in. You wrote him in. 80 I wrote him in. No, really? 84. No, I took that year off. Okay. Did you ever vote for Cynthia Nixon? I voted for Cynthia Nixon as as SAG president of the year before I died. That also didn't work. Can you, now that you faked your death and come back, are
Starting point is 00:25:30 you eligible to vote in SAG elections? I probably shouldn't. See that? There's all these things you've got to think about when you faked your death. Cynthia Nixon has tiny teeth just like you. Oh, that's right. Like I used to, you're absolutely, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're absolutely, you, you're absolutely, you, you, you're absolutely to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to, you're to. to. to, to. to thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. that. that, that. that, that, that. that, that. that, that, that. that, that. that. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the thi. the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tha used to, you're absolutely right. She did have very, very small teeth. It was one of the reasons why I thought she'd make a terrific advocate for the actors. But what happened? Were she, I wanted us to have a stronger dental plan and I figured it would take a woman with baby teeth like, like me to make that happen. Yeah, but yeah, one of the things you don't consider when you fake. to fly on a plane. Oh, good luck starting a business. Yeah, there's a few little administrative hurdles one has to jump through when one pretends to be dead.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Right. Do you go by a new name now? I'm in a small enough town where it doesn't really matter. Have you ever thought of starting a church? Oh, tell me more. Well, what happens is if you are the leader of the church and you died and came back, that that's kind of good pop. I see. So you're actually suggesting I start not a church but a religion. I thought you meant like an actual like a building of a, no, I have given that a great deal of thought and'm in a part of the California desert where such things are welcomed. Sure, what's up with
Starting point is 00:26:50 the name Purnell? You got a lot of nerve. Where does that come from? Yeah. Pernell, well he'd have to talk to my father but he was very insistent that his child, all of his children in fact, have a last name for a first name and then a plural first name for the last name. A plural first name for the last name. Do you have a nickname? Are you a purn or Nell? What do you go by? No one calls me Nell? Lauren Green called me Nell once. What happened? I knocked his fucking tupe. Oh man? God damn. Oh there's no need. And then I used Michael Landon to punch him in the the the the the the the the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the name. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the p. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the knocked his fucking toupe. Oh, man. God damn. Oh, there's no need. And then I used Michael Landon to punch him in the nose. I grabbed Michael Landon's body and I just threw it at Lauren Green's face. God damn, I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 You did a little Joe pile driver. I did a little Joe pile driver precisely. Blocker didn't do anything. He could have broken it up up just with his forefinger. But I have a, I have a, so in keeping with this thing my father had where everyone had a last name for a first name and a plural first name for a last name, my brother Guftus and Adams. Okay, I follow. Okay. We're still very close.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He's a spryyoung thing of 88. So you got, all right, different surnames for all of your siblings? Uh-huh, that's correct. All right, great. That makes sense. All right. Who else died on this day was Ward Bond, the star of Wagon Train and so many Westerns. Ah, fuck Wagon Train. Oh, you like wagon train even less than Bonanza I have to say to say, wagon train would have been, I passed on wagon train. Oh my, I passed on wagon train. I auditioned for Bonanza because I thought there was hope, I passed on wagon train. Yeah, the axe to grind. Here's a fun fact about Ward Bond and his being dead. His good friend, John Wayne performed the shot, thi. th. to to to toathed to John Wayne the shotgun with which John Wayne
Starting point is 00:28:47 had once accidentally shot Bond on a hunting trip. Holy shit! So this happened before Dick Cheney. This kind of thing. It did. It did. The evidence. He gave him the evidence. Yeah, but I wonder if John Wayne was expecting more in the will, or wasn't expecting that at all. Here, dear friend, I have died. Take your goddamn gun back that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th which which which which which which which the the the the th which th which the th which th which the gun with which th which th which th which the the the th which th which the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the gun. the gun. the gun. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thea. theau. theau. theau. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the or wasn't expecting that at all. Here, dear friend, I have died. Take your goddamn gun back that you shot me with. I never wanted it to begin with. Oh, it was John Wayne's gun in the beginning? Must have been John Wain shot Ward Bond.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Well, maybe it went hunting and John said, I've left one of my many guns at home. Can I borrow one of yours. Okay. Said sure, take this one. Just please don't shoot me with it. And John was not a great listener. I knew the man. Oh, okay. He shot Ward Bond and if I had to guess said, Owl. You sure. Something like that effect. And then said, I'd like that gun back now because you clearly can't be trusted with it. Right. And then bequeathed to him a few years later. Do you think that's passive aggressive just to remind him of what a prick he was for shooting him? Well those two were bitchy little queens anyway. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Really? No, that's an open secret. We knew that right? No, I didn't know that. I still hesitate to believe it. My husband and I are having a blowout sale on one of our candies. We sold over Easter. It's the milk chocolate gun. And it's for people who love guns in your life, but they don't want to keep the guns in a cabinet. But you also want to have a cabinet of vitrine for your guns.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But you don't want to keep the guns in there. We have chocolate guns that you can keep in there. And then keep your, so you're still in danger. Wait, your actual gun that's going to real fire real bullets is where? It's in your hand or maybe on the floor or beneath your pillow and you have a gun cabinet and what you keep in there is a chocolate version of your guns. It's a good idea to lock up the chocolate in your house anyway. Yeah, how many kids do you have? Well and well depending on how many guns we have? fair enough. Right? Good the good. It good. It good. It good. It good. It good. It good. It good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's in the good. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Is. Is. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their their their their their their their their in your house anyway. How many kids do you have? Well and well depending on how many guns we have. Fair enough. Right? Good answer. I'll tell you chocolate is more dangerous than a gun any damn day. I'll tell you what to your waistline anyways. Well you know what kind of chocolate is shaped like a gun.
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's some dark chocolate. Oh clever it's a word play. Is it a hollow gun or a solid? It's a solid, dark chocolate gun. Solid dark chocolate gun. Okay, all right, man, I'll tell you what, I'm constantly looking for a god-dam, solid goddamn chocolate Easter bunny. When I bite into a chocolate Easter bunny and it's holly inside, look out Walgreens. You hear your voice echoing back at you from a hollow Easter bunny. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid, it's a solid, it's a solid, it's a solid, it's a solid, it's a solid, it's a solid, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a solid. It's a the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th.greens. Get it. When you hear your voice echoing back at you from a hollow Easter Bunny. It's a word only a sound in the world, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:28 It's true. Have you ever seen a half-eaten Easter Bunny left on someone's desk in an office? That's the only version of a hollow Easter Bunny I've ever seen? No one finishes a hollow. You thawi-a-o'-o' th. That's right. I've also never seen a half eaten solid. Exactly. Well, that's when you grab it. Even if it's not yours and you munch it down because you forgot your lunch. This is a true story.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I got a cross one time made of hollow white chocolate. Really? Yeah. For Easter's? Who gave that to you Bernil? Very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was that. I was that. I was. I was. I was. I was. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I...........................................................................................................to you, Bernil? A very, very strange aunt. I had. And I was very disconcerted by it and then eventually got hungry and ate it. But it's sad in my ice box for quite some time and I was deeply perplexed by the messaging of a hollow white chocolate cross. Not a crucifix, mind you just crossed. The crucifix might have been a bridge too far. The sweetness of Christ sacrifice for you. But it's white chocolate, which is the
Starting point is 00:32:30 which is the less sweet, it's more of a vanilla almost, right? Like it was, there were a lot of mixed messages in this iconography that I did not care for. Well maybe it's be going in keeping with the depiction of Jesus historically has been white and blue-eyed. And so maybe that's what concerned me. Four white people, but it, Jesus is chocolate in many parts of the world. Chocolate Jesus? Chocolate, yes. It's interesting, there is no holiday at which we are encouraged to eat a chocolate Jesus. I never do see one.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, right? Well, it seems like a missed opportunity. It sure does. Don't make them holla. I'm eating chocolate rabbits and chocolate sandies. I'm going to write it down. Write it down. Business proposition. Yeah, but you do have to. It is going to be tricky when you decide whether it's going to be white chocolate or dark chocolate because there's going to be complaints. Tell you what, people are going to complain. All right. You want to hear some fun facts about what we got here? Okay, hey, this episode was directed by a man named John Floria, who was a war photographer. Here's the fun, fun fact I found about John Floria. He had a turbulent third marriage with a woman who stabbed him in the back
Starting point is 00:33:36 with a small knife following an alimony hearing in 1975. She had her reasons. I'm sure. Floria sued her for 1.25 million dollars and she in turn sued him for the same amount, alleging that he had circulated to her close friends and show business acquaintances, a copy of her arrest record and mugshot from a 1955 prostitution arrest with the intent of humiliating her. That's a turbulent, goddame marriage. What happened in that was the verdict? Oh, oh, who got the 1.25 million dollars? I didn't go that far into it. I just thought I thought it was interesting that they counter sued one another under those three. That's the kind of relationship we all hope for is where your triggers are triggered by
Starting point is 00:34:18 the person who you were with. you say, oh you were neglected, I was suffocated. And then, oh, you were physically abused, I was emotionally incested. Your mom died, my mom left. And then you connect with each other so deeply that you just sue each other to the end of your lives. Yeah, yeah, I'm stuck on the same thing. Emotionally incested. That's when your mother says
Starting point is 00:34:45 your father's been gone for two weeks on the road. Can you sleep in bed with me? Oh gee. Well there you have it. That's emotionally incest. I thought there would never be an explanation for that and it turns out there's a very good one. Or let me tell you the way your father has really disappointed me in personal and deep ways, and then we'll be best friends, even though you're seven. Okay. Anyway. That sounds lovely. I wouldn't be emotionally insisted.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I wouldn't mind being emotionally. I wouldn't mind being emotionally insisted. It sounds all right. Well, it makes you feel included. Yeah, very much needed. You're the man of the house, even though you're not! You're a child. Well, okay, Murna Fahey played Dolly Kincaid in this episode.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Myrna Fahe was a beauty queen. She was Miss Poultry Queen of Hancock County in 1951. Wow. That the drumsticks to prove it. See? Let me tell you about Myrna, she was a sight to see. Those legs went all the way up the Ponderosa. Oh, they did.
Starting point is 00:35:54 She could lay an egg. Yeah, no boy. That was sexy. She could lay an egg. She dated George Hamilton and Joe DiMaggio, and she received death threats while dating Joe DiMaggio in 1964 because there was a fellow who couldn't stand to see DiMaggio with anybody other than Marilyn Monroe, who died two years earlier. What do you think of that?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Well, that's a tough spot to be in Joe. That's a bit of a strange. It's rare when I would say th say th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toooooooooo' too' too. the. tooooo' too' theen. that's a that's a that's a that's a of a strange. It's rare when I would say a New York Yankee can't catch a break, but uh... It's two years ever... That's a set of circumstances right there. His ex-wife died two years ago, he takes up with the lovely, with a poultry queen, no less, and he's getting death threats for it. It's not like he's slumming with a piggy queen or a horsey queen. It's a damn poetry queen. And let me say something very clearly. I know everybody who has faked their death and Maryland is not among them.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Oh, we have a Zoom. Oh, you do? Who have all the people who fake their death? Well, I obviously can't. You can't tell us who? No, it's people to know Steve McQueen still out there. I hear he's directing films. Oh, hey.
Starting point is 00:37:09 No, one hour cables. Oh, our cable stuff. Okay, that makes it. He did a bunch of burn this. Okay. I thought I saw Pat Boone is actually still alive. Oh. He might be faking his still being alive. How about Bob Barker?
Starting point is 00:37:30 There's been some confusion. Bob Barker, I can neither confirm or deny. Okay. Bob Barker is faking not having died. He's alive, but we still allowed on the zoom because any day now. Sure. This is a real fun fact about Myrna-fahehahehi. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to-n. to-n. to-a. to-s. th. toe. toe. toe. the the th. the th. the the th. the the the th. th. the toe. toe. th. th. about Murna Fahey. After a rough love scene in the 1960 episode of Bonanza Breed of violence in which she cut her lip, the cast presented her with an award for Best Slapper in a Film to Series. Oh dear. What a fun day on the set that was. Best Slapper to her or Slap-E? I think what happened was it was that first love
Starting point is 00:38:06 scene where Vince is really kissing on her heart. Yeah I noticed that that was that seems somehow non-consensual even though it was scripted. Yeah. That's where she's compliant despite the fact that she says he's going to her father's gonna whip the hide off her back. Yeah, yeah. That's part of the tension building before the incident and then reconciliation and then the calm. Well, this is what women was like in the frontier where it'd be like, please to God stop groping and kissing me, and then they say something romantic, and the woman just melts.
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Starting point is 00:39:16 ways, but then I think they unrelated to the busted lip from the kissing scene. Now wait I'm still I am so perplexedthough, because I was not on set that day. I heard that as, because normally when there was violence against women, the crew would laugh. Sure. And I heard only half the crew laughed that day, which means it must have been rather upsetting. But what was, who got their lip, she split? She split the her lip got split by John Erickson as Vince Dagan in an early scene in the episode. Later in the episode, she slapped somebody and the cast gave her the award of Best Slapper in a film series.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Oh, I understand. To make her feel better about having cut her lip in a kissing scene. That's what I- Oh, she slaps one of that. Well Well in terms of you're, they're rewarding her for being a tough girl and handling the thing and then saying oh you were a part of the abuse because you slapped him. See that? That's clever. That's smart. It's very clever. You reward her and remind her, oh you slap somebody yourself. So why don't you just go at ice that injury off, off, off, sat, that. And that is something that a union president like Cynthia Nixon
Starting point is 00:40:34 Nixon never would have allowed. Oh, man. With her little teeth. They're still campaigning for, Nixon for, I don't understand why. Tiny little corn kernel teeth. One more thing I'll tell you about Myrna Fahey. She was cast in the TV version of Father of the Bride, the movie version of which starred Elizabeth Taylor. And some people said when she was cast in the TV version.
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Starting point is 00:41:32 This is not like saying, oh you look like Elizabeth Taylor, circa 1978. Or you look like Mr. Ed. Right. Who was the dad in the father? It wasn't Spencer Tracy. Spenser Tracy was in the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the, th, the, the the, the the, she the, she the the the the the, she'd the the th. She'd th. She'd th. She'd th. She'd th. She'd th. She'd th. She'd th. She'd th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She th. She, th. She, th. She th. She th. She'd th. She'd the, the, the. She'd the. She'd thean. She'd theaneaneaneaneanean. She'd the the thooooooooooo the the the the the the the father? Even that it wasn't Spencer Tracy? Spencer Tracy was in the movie. I looked him up and I'd never heard of them before. So it didn't stick in my brain. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:42:51 All right, I want to tell you about John Erickson, though, who played Vince Deegan. This guy worked a lot. His big breakout was Stolog 17 on Broadway. He was also on an episode of Skip E. Lowe looks at Hollywood in 1989. We can pardon? Bigger pardon. Skip E. Lowe, the boy with the Betty Grable legs. We learned about him last week.
Starting point is 00:43:14 This is the fellow that Jiminy Glick is based on. Oh right, that's right. He had a Hollywood talk show in the 80s. You familiar with Skip E. Lo! were you ever interviewed by Skippy Lowe? He was not ever in her, no. He's a, he's very famous. He's like Barbara Walters. Right. Right. Or Barbara Oprah. Yeah, just like that. John Erickson was, he was engaged to Ann Bancroft. He was in a film called The Seven Faces of Dr. Lau. Oh, yeah. You know that movie?
Starting point is 00:43:48 For Lee? Hang on now. This is where I'm going to show you some photos because it starred Tony Randall. Oh, no. I knew it was someone in Horrific Yellowface. Well, there's that. But also, so he played seven different roles in the seven faces of Dr. Lau, including, including this funny Chinese fella.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Oh no. Very authentic, that's old Tony Randall. Oh no. He also played one of his other roles in that movie was the role of Boy George. He played Boy George. Oh, you're not kidding. I mean, I know that's technically Medusa, but it really looks like Boy George. Oh,'re not kidding well. Look at that. I mean I know that's technically Medusa but it really looks like boy George. Oh it's Medusa. Fun fact, you know this guy you massive Culture Club fan. No. You are pernil Roberts. At the time I followed them on tour. I would take I would take
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Starting point is 00:45:08 All right, I forgot about plex. Can I do too? Sure. They're good. Those behind their music is good. Even though it's always the same story, it's always that they hit the high and. It doesn't matter what it is. Well, it helps if they go back to their roots. Well, they got to go back to their roots. Every time. When they enjoy painting now.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Oh, yes, now they enjoy painting. Yeah. They'll even do that. Well, never the tho. A lot of those guys live out near me in the desert. grandkids. You ever run into Kip Winger out there? Oh Kip and I play golf. Okay. Kip Winger. Wow. Now he sings a song about getting with a 17 year old. Good for him. Well, okay. There's nothing like cherry pie. Oh, oh no. Here's the funnest thing I want to tell you about John Eric. I didn't start this but I'll finish it. John Erickson in order to boost his career in 1974, he posed for Playgirl magazine, frolicing nude at a drive-through Safari and Adventure Park in Irvine.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Now I remember that place. Yeah, you do? And I remember that day. Well now that was the handsome blind guy. Yeah, he was. Oh, it's wonderful. Yes. He hung on in Orange County in an attempt to revitalize his career is what you're
Starting point is 00:46:28 telling me. Yes, and he accepted no compensation from Playgirl magazine. He did this for free. He hung do for free at Irvine. For the publicity, however, he had negotiated that his face would be on the cover. And they did not put his face on the cover. So he put his dog. I'm sorry to say I have a photo and I'm going to show it to you. Oh, I'm so delighted. Yeah, his face was not on the cover of Playgirls so he sued for the lost publicity of that and
Starting point is 00:46:55 they paid him $12,000 for that. Isn't that an interesting way to get paid? That's not actually a tonnene of money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money that's that's that's that's that's not actually a that's not actually a that's not actually a that's that's not actually a that's that's not he probably should have stuck out for a little bit more. Oh no! Yeah I agree. He got animals involved. This is John Erickson's Playgirl. What does he copy in Bert Ranwelt? Is that what he's doing? Kind of Bruntle but without instead of a hand he has a wolf. No it's a lion cub. That's a lion cub. Oh that seems inappropriate. It does. There's a lot of things he could go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that. that's. that. that. that. It does. Wow, that is like there's a lot of things that can go wrong in that photo. He is fully nude. New interpretation of the opening of the Lion King. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, he's got a Lion Cub covering his circle of life there, Erickson. You're not seeing, you're not going to see any genitals, I don't believe. Well, they're covered up by this lion cub who it looks so unhappy. The lion cuck looks furious. Very uncomfortable. This is not where he wants to be. He's like, uh, I don't use me to cover up your junk. Recently, I found something similar. Yeah. Do you know, this has just gone on auction.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And it's an actual photograph of a fully nude Harpo marks. You're kidding me? Well, let me see this. What was he doing? What was he doing? What was he doing? What was he doing on there? I really don't know. I don't have any details and I regret. Yep, that's Harpo, all right. He was forever doing this. And there's a little red wig. Good heavens. Oh my. I wonder. I wonder what... Who took the photo? Well, who's a th th the photo. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th. W, what was th. What was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. the, the. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. the. W. W. the. W. W. W. W. W. W. the. W. W. th Who took the photo? Well it's worth every penny. Well there's other things I could tell you but we better get to the episode. Good Lord how long we've been at this? Oh my husband and I also do. You do? Okay, all right, no problem. All right, okay, here we go. Academy Award winner, Helly Berry. One touch without a robot is all in text.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Say it. Never let go. We're the world now. Never let go. Never let go. In the theater September 20th. The episode begins. It's quiet Virginia City. Little Joe's riding in to go to a general store, but there's a commotion over by the saloon where Vince Deegan is cutting the lip of Dolly Kincaid kissing her too hard.
Starting point is 00:49:18 She wants, she wants it, she doesn't want it. Little Joe comes in. Fist fight. . Solid, th fight Fist fight, real good, real good fist fight. Good solid fist. Got to say. Decent, decent fight. Decent fight. You know, you throw someone in a door and they come flying back out.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yeah, yeah. There's good stuff. Now we see, uh, we see little Joe walks Dolly home and her father is nuts. He comes out with a shotgun, puts it on little Joe. He, it tow, it th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It to th. It to to to to to to to th. It's to to to to th. th. to th. to to to. too. too. too. too. too. to. th. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. on little joke. He's a crazy man. It turns out, Dolly Kincaid's mother was a trollop, ran around with different men. Or was she? Was she just trying to escape? Oh, maybe. A marriage that was joyless. The only source we have is Dolly Kincaid's father who happens to be the sheriff,
Starting point is 00:50:01 Sheriff Kincaid. That is an unreliable news source, I would have to say. I suppose. And yeah, and it's even scarier just because if your father is in the police force, it's very difficult to escape. Right. So he pulls a gun on little Joe. Yeah, he pulled a shotgun on little Joe because he's, yet another man you're running around with just like your mother, you're just like your mother who run off on me and all this business. And I think maybe she also got killed.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I forget, but anyways, she is enslaved. Dolly is enslaved by her father and she's got to fix his shirts and clean up and do everything around the house and just not supposed to leave the house whatever. And at some point her father slaps her, but then he tells her she's pretty. See? That's the cycle that we talked about the power and control wheel. And it has never failed me once. It's beautiful to see in action. At the Ponderosa, Hoss and Adam want to go after some wolves, but first they got a ride fence and they're making fun a little Joe for being hanging around Dolly Kincaid and all that stuff goes on, right? We had a good time Josh and a little Joe for that one. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:16 it was a fun day on set because Linden was fond of walking around and flirting with all the women on the law. Oh, he was. And so we basically just switched the names out, but he would go over and he'd flirt with Joanne Woodward and he'd eat flirt with Delarese and he was just all over the place. And so it was our way of picking on him. As I said, I really am only going to comment on the scenes I was in because the rest of the script or watch the episode....... And the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, the episode, I, I, I, the episode, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, he didn't, I was, I'm, th. And, he didn't, he didn't, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he. And, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he.... He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he... He, he, he. He. He. He. He, he. He. He. He. He. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he'd th. th. th th th th th toea. th toed. the the th th th to flirted, he'd the the the th to flirted, he'd th th th th the script or watch the episode. But this was another instance, by the way, in the scene where Dally Kincaid sort of starts to put the moves on Little Joe where he suddenly doesn't want anything to do with her. We saw it in the bearded woman. Because he was trying to help her and condescend to her in a way where he felt comfortable
Starting point is 00:51:58 also using a power dynamic where the woman is lesser and can't make decisions on her own. Amy, this is a bit of a new tack for you. Well, I don't think so. This is all about what my husband and I have started, you know, we're just trying to do, neither of us have any training, but we like to have, we're try to develop an app. And it's 1999 a month. And it's $19,99 a month. And it's, the to the to to to to the to to to the to to to the to to to the to the to to the to to the the to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. tack. to to to to but we like to have, we're trying to develop an app. And it's 1999 a month, and again, it's called Don't Get Involved. And then we kind of get involved. But in a very limited way, and kind of in a way
Starting point is 00:52:38 that you're paying us to feel sorry for you. Okay, that works for me. Oh, by the way, $20 is well spent. Yeah. Little Joe doesn't want want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to to to try. to to to to to to to to. Okay, that works for me. Oh, by the way, $20 is well spent. Yeah. Little Joe doesn't want anything to do with Dally Kincaid until he finds out that her father doesn't want him around and then he says I might ask her out just because of that. He does say that. Because it's a whole more erotic. Yeah, that's it. Competing with the father for the hand of the daughter. I like. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to thi. theee. the thi. thi. th father for the hand of the daughter. I like it. Well, he's gonna, all right, now Vince comes by to Dolly and he says, hey, I'm gonna take you away from your terrible father. Let's sneak out. We made a plan to sneak out.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And Vince happens to know that her father, the sheriff is gonna bethere's tracking these wolves and they decide to go over to old man Traeger's ranch because he's a wolf tracker from way back. Old man Trager, that actor was beating to death by his caregiver at the age of 83. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. What? Never mind. It wouldn't happen if he was wearing a breakaway belt. You're right, you're right. Anyway. I will allow one more never mind, but if you give me another fact like that, I will require full detail.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Okay, he stumbled in on his caregiver stealing money from him. Anyways, okay. Freak. Now you're just flaying with me. I faked my own death and send people into paroxysms of grief and yet I am not the biggest bummer on this episode. Not even close. It's all bummer's all the time. Well, let's see here. Okay, there was a bank robbery in the town of Mormon flats and basically Vince and his cronies did it and they run away. And it seems like
Starting point is 00:54:27 old Sheriff Kincaid has put together a posse to find Vince and his cronies who done rob this bank and meantime you got Vince has the money and the sheriff's daughter and the they're meeting up with the cronies and meanwhile meanwhile, you got, you got little Joe and Hauss at Traeger's Ranch, talking to Traeger, but who should come along to Traeger's Ranch? But Vince and the other bank robbers and the Dolly Kincaid. Very small insular area of the frontier that that coincidence should happen, right? This was one of my problems with the show, was that it relied on some some the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you're the, you the, you tho, you tho, you tho, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, the, theatthat that coincidence should happen, right? Warming flats. This was one of my problems with the show was that it relied on some pretty outlandish coincidences.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's just geographical your problems with the show? One of my many. I made that very clear. Everybody had to stop by triggers. If you're in the area, you better stop that. There's a bit of geographical incest going on here. Well now now now now now now now now now the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their is a their is a their is a their is a their is a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit of there's. there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's is a bit of there's is a bit of there's. It is a bit of there's is a bit of there's. It's. It's. It's their. It's their. It's a bit. It's a bit. I. I's a bit. I's a bit. I's a thoge. I's a thoge. I's a thoge. I's a th. I's a theographic. I'm a theographic. I's a theographic. It's Yeah. Well now the bad guys set upon the good guys, they take their guns away. Now they've got hostages of Little Joe and Hoss,
Starting point is 00:55:29 but Little Joe starts to get into the mind of the bad guys. He starts to bring about dissension in the ranks. And all that. He would do that on set. Oh, he would is that how you're going to do that line? And I'd say, yeah, why, okay, that's your choice. I guess we're just different kinds of actors. That was the kind of malevolent pre- Michael Landon was. That is passive.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah, the fact that. Yeah, the fact that. I heard he used to really do that to Victor French. French he was simple. Okay, what? I won't make you expand. Oh never mind, never mind how I know about Victor French and his simplicity. Well now, okay, along comes a couple of members of the posse, but Haas has to lie to him and tell him everything's fine here and you can see him trying so hard with his eyes to tell the posse something where it's going on but it doesn't work. Posse doesn't pick it up. He was too subtle too too too too too too too too too too to to to to to to to to s a to s a to s s s s s s s s s a too. H. H. H. H. H. H. H. H. Hoss. Hoss. H. H. H. tooe. toe. to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I's. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. th. I'm. th. th. t. te. te. te. te. te. try. try. te. try. try. th. to. thi. thi. th. to. to tell the posse something weird's going on but it doesn't work posse doesn't pick it up he was too subtle passes way too subtle smart and understated for the posse yeah exactly problem number three with the show now the the dogs at Traygars alert the humans to the presence of every new person that
Starting point is 00:56:41 comes along except for Sheriff Kincaid. When Sheriff Kincaid arrives, as he does at Traggars like anybody would, because his horse is tired, and he discovers all them horses in the barn, he knows something's up. The dogs didn't bark when he came. So he gets to get jump on our bad guys.
Starting point is 00:56:58 An incredible logic, this was what bothered me. Because logic was an important part. to. I had to understand why my character did anything and why characters reacted to him, even if those characters were dogs. This is another place where that show fell short. Where was this up at William Gears and Topanga? That's correct. Okay, that's where you played in Botanica. Antigone at 16, that's correct. You th. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. This. This. This. This is, th. This is, th. This is, th. This is, th. This is th. This is th. This is th. th. This is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. theea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. yes. You were an incredible music man in kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Thank you very much. When you played Methuselah, I was off book in three days. When you came out of your mom playing Methuselah, yes, thank you. That was some of my best beard work. My God. You didn't even need, you just stuck your head out. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You feel good about that joke? I will not be condescended to by Pernell Roberts. Pernell, did you feel you overstepped when you did a seven part and you playing all the parts of Lissistrata? No, I figured I was exactly the sort of person to handle the Lissistrata by myself, having known firsthand what sex and war does to people. I was very satisfied with my work that opened the Mark Tapirth Forum. I'll have you know and yeah, a highlight of my theatrical career. Good for you. I guess Tony Ray will do it.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We have crop's last tape in Palm Desert next week if anyone's around. What's the venue? They got a little playhouse out there in Palm Hill. It's an equity waiver. Sure it is. th, th, th, th, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the th, the the th, the the the th. thi. the the the thi, the thi, the the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, I the work, I the work, I the work, I the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, the work, the work. the work. the work. the work. the work. the work. the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. that that's that's that's that's that, that, that's that, the that, the that, the the that, the the the the that, the that, the venue? They got a little playhouse out there in popular? They got a little, they got all 99 Cedar. It's an equity waiver. Oh, sure it is. Oh, good. Man, you're living the dream. I heard they have a one-act rodeo. I heard you were doing Spider-Man tune out the dark.
Starting point is 00:58:37 That's correct. Yeah, well, that was one of the, I was going to use that to fake my death because they lost, you know, they lost six ensemble members a week over on that show. But finally just seemed easier just to go with cancer because there'd be less investigation. Oh, but it's worth it for those songs. They stick with you. They really do. I can't think of a one, but they do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, Kencade comes in and he shoots one guy but then he gets shot and
Starting point is 00:59:09 there's fist cuffs, there's an inconclusive, yet another inconclusive fist fight between Vince and Little Joe. We never know which one of them would the other in a fair fist fight because people keep saying, all right that's enough time. We don't have any more time for fighting. And Dolly, okay, if we could try just for a moment to try to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their one. to their one. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to. to. to. to. try. try. their try. t's enough time we don't have any more time for fighting and Dolly okay if we could try just for a moment to try to track Dolly's attitude she she hates her father that's consistent yes she loves Vince sometimes not so sure about Vince other time right he's just like her father right he gives her a gun at one point to hold it on little Joe and she seems hell bent on keeping it on Little Joe because Little Joe seems like he wants to return her to her father but then at some point she surreptitiously hands her gun off to
Starting point is 00:59:51 Little Joe at a crucial moment in the end I'm not sure what brought it about or why or how that happened I think this script could have used a first draft okay sometimes it's good idea what she's displaying is a lack of bonding as an infant she she was she was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to the to the to to the to the to the th. th. th. I the their the. I the. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. the. the. theeater. theeeeeater. the. theeee. theeeee idea. What she's displaying is a lack of bonding. As an infant she wasn't held by her father and so she will attach to anyone who gives her eye contact. Okay so that's a little Joe just had a look at her long enough and I say. A little steely eyes. I hope you don't take this a wrong way but you're honestly you're starting to make a lot of sense. Well that is a little bit insulting. Please tr apologize. Please the little little little little. Please the little. Please the little. I I I I I the little little. I- I the little little. I- I- I- I- I see. I- I- I see. I the little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little. I. I. I'm a little little. I'm a little little little. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. It's little little little little little little little little little little little little little. It. It's. It's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a little. It's a little. It's a little. It's a little. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a little. It's. It's a little. It's little. It's little.'re starting to make a lot of sense. Well, that is a little bit insulting.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I've been, I've been reading more and more of the Bible and just the sex parts. A lot of really valuable psychology in the Bible. A lot of father-son relationships to go through there. A lot of, a lot of really good dynamics going on to the interpersonal relationships, particularly in the Old Testament. Yep. There's one solid father-son relationship in the New Testament. But even that goes a little astray at the end.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, there's some, I got a lot of free time. Yeah, yeah, they could have communicated better. Well, okay. Now, in the end end end, Ken, Ken, Ken, the end, what happened? Now, Kencaid survived, Sheriff Kincaid survives. His first question when he comes back to consciousness is, what happened to the money? And then he is told that his daughter has been sitting by his side this whole time. And then Ben goes out and tells Dolly Kincaid, your father asked for you, which was a lie. But then, Ben gives a piece of advice to old Sheriff Kincakekekekekekekeked, to, to, to, to, to, to, to him, the to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, to him, too, too, to me, too, too, to me, to me, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to me me me me me me me to me me to me me to me me me, to me, too, too, too, too, to me me me me, to me, to me, to me me, to me, the the the the the the the the the the the the the to me, to me, the too, the too, the too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, the the gives a piece of advice to old Sheriff Kincaid. He says sometimes you have to show your children a little affection and understanding. Have you ever tried that? And Sheriff Kincaid says no I've never tried.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Oh, Jesus. Just hadn't come up. It hadn't come up. Frankly, they never asked for it. Right. So now it seemed a little hopeless when he said no that he is not going to change at all his expressions towards his daughter. Who said? Did he say that at the end? No, I mean, I just don't think that he's going to be kind to her. Oh, you don't think she's going to be trapped in the house for another 10 years. Yeah, I think you're right. Will heard the fellow the fellow hella hella that hea that that hea the fellow that tried to help her escape, he ended up, I forget dead or in jail,
Starting point is 01:02:06 old Vince Deegan. And Little Joe is back to, I guess, not wanting anything to do with her probably. That's right. Well, conveniently giving up the woman. See, maybe next time. So close. Yeah. Nobody's good enough for us because they're in fact afraid of connecting to a woman because
Starting point is 01:02:25 they've had no women to bond with as infants as children. It's true. It's for children. They're afraid of loss. Now, at the very end, there's a very funny exchange with all the cart rides where Adam says, hey, you know what, she's getting a little older that dolly. I might take a shot at her myself. Was that improvised? Was that in the screen? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:46 No, they would, after a point in season two, they realized that I wouldn't do their rubbish dialogue. So they just wrote, oh you came up with that. They just wrote Adam and then just had a series of ellipsies and I would fill in the blank. And it thought it made as much sense as much take a swing for the fences with her. It just found it absurd that there were three adult men who were still listening to Lauren Green who couldn't even be honest about his hair.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Right. So you were like the Robin Williams of Bonanza. Just let him do his thing. Absolutely. Just let's stay out of my way. Right. By that point I was doing about three hours on set set the th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to th. thi. the. to to to to the. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. thea. to toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. the the thea. the thea. the thea. the. set a week. Oh my God. Yeah, that's counting lunch. That's been diesel hours. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever do any just like Ed Sullivan impressions
Starting point is 01:03:30 or anything like that? No, I did. Or William F. Buckley, like Robin Williams, he used to do with the genie. God, that's funny. I'll have you. I'll tell you something. Robin Williams picked up not just his William F. Buckley from me, but his Arsenio Hall. No, you can't hear them. Oh, you cannot hear them. Robin William stole his Arsenio Hall impression from me. Wow. And you did do that one-man wizard of
Starting point is 01:03:55 Oz too. I did. Yeah. I stole some of that from you too. Oh dang it. All thin. All the way Aima here is an expert on Fast and Furious movies. Yeah, I was all that. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. You th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, you th. Oh, you th. Oh, you can not th. Oh, you can not th. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not th th th th th th th th. Oh, you can not th. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I th. Oh, I th. Oh, I th. Oh, you th. Oh, you're not th. Oh, you're not th. Oh, you're not the th. Oh, you can't the the th. Oh, you can not the the the th. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you can not. Oh, you it. All right. Well, by the way, Aima here is an expert on the Fast and Furious movies. Yes, they're all nine. All nine. All nine. They've been disposed. I have a feeling what's coming up on the 10th?
Starting point is 01:04:12 What? More science? It's really into science these days? I've been watching the slow and compassionate films. Yeah, they're all. They're the best are their their their their their their their their their their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. Oh, their. Oh, I are they're they're they're they're they're they're their. I's. I's. I'm their. I'm they're they're they're all all all. I'm all all all. I'm all all all all all all. I's all all all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's all. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm the the the the the the the the th. the. the. theathea. I'm theathea. I'm thoananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananed. Yeah. Yeah. How are those? Well, they're still going. They take a while. Oh, they're all Merchant Ivory, right? Yeah, they are. Yes, they are. Oh, they're the best. Well, folks, I'm sorry to say that as of now, we only have 390 episodes of Bonanza left to go. Unfortunately, having done 41 of them. Let me tell you, you want to see some of the photos from this episode? You're going to go to Instagram, see Banana's Pod. And this is a Twitter handle, too.
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