Bonanas for Bonanza - EARLY ACCESS - Bonanas For Bonanza Episode #63: “The Thunderhead Swindle” feat. Moon Unit Zappa
Episode Date: August 21, 2024Subscribe to The Andy Daly Podcast Project at Patreon.com/AndyDaly Moonanas For Moonanza! Novelist, memoirist, actress, comedian and tea merchant Moon Unit Zappa joins Dalton and Mutt to discuss ...Season 2, Episode 30, 'The Thunderhead Swindle’. Moon might have been disappointed with this episode of Bonanza, but you won't be! It's mostly about mining boundary lines, but also features Ben Cartwright taking the law into his own hands and some really irresponsible use of explosives! They also discuss Moon's perfectly normal upbringing and her brand new memoir, "Earth to Moon"! Order "Earth to Moon" at https://moonunit.comFeaturing Matt GourleyMerch: redbubble.com/people/ADPodProject/shopMail: PO Box 9407 Glendale, CA 91226Email: bonanaspod@gmail.comAndy’s website: andydaly.comRecord date: 7/29/2024 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I was born again, Ray.
Man, hot damn.
This is Bananas for Bananza.
Still, the only podcast that is devoted to the television show Bananza.
Can you believe that?
We're 63 episodes into this and nobody else has said,
Damn, I'm gonna get in on that too.
There's only one podcast, of all the podcasts in the world
where they're talking about the greatest television show
that ever was made.
I know, it seems like they made one superhero movie
and then everybody's like,
I gotta make a superhero movie.
Right. What is that not happening with Benanza podcast? of it because I don't know what I'd have to do. Meet them in the street and shoot them down if the tried. Well folks, we've got a very special guest today as
we're talking about episode 30 of the second season of Bonanza. Our guest
today is Moon Unit Zappa. Thanks for having me. Oh man, it's a pleasure I have to say I count myself a fan. Yeah, we're a big fan of your hat. And I'm the the th is, th is, I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm th. th. th. th. th is th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, we've thi, we're th. th. th. We've got th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've got th. We've got thi, we've got thi, we've got thi, we've got thi, we've got th. th. We've got th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, we've thi, we've thi, we've got thi, we've got thi, to to to to to to to theeeeean to to theeat thee that that that that that thi thi. We've got thi. We, we're big fans. And I'm a huge fan of your hat.
Only the live streamers can appreciate it.
Tell us about your head.
First of all, it's black and it's about three feet tall.
It's a big.
I had it made a few years ago,
because I missed the boat on the Vivian Westwood,
gigantic hats in the, I guess it was the early 80s, the Malcolm McLaren world of all that business.
And so, I don't know these people.
Vivian Westwood and Malcolm McLaren.
Yeah, that's, this is an 80s thing.
If you were into 80s things, you're like, oh yes, oh yes, I understand.
But you could, you could Google this.
You know who wears a hat?
thu going to. Oh you do. Our boy George?
Hoss.
Oh, Hoss!
Who are you going to say?
I was going to say boy George.
Oh, well, he does actually.
Currently, he does.
I think he had the, or he, she, they, I, boy George, I think that hat was a
hat was a Vivian Westwood.
Oh, really? the finest hat that has ever been on this podcast. I will also say that is a hat that is at home on the range at the Kentucky Derby and as a fascinator
for any royal wedding of your choice. And those are the three main venues for a
hat. Yeah and that's my point so I was thrilled to come on the podcast of like I can
wear the hat. It is a beautiful hat and you're right it is not unlike Hauss's hat. I think it's a little shorter than Hauss can fit. Ironically, he could fit like five brains in there.
His hat is the Burj Khalif of hats. Is that the name of that tall building in Dubai? I was going to see Sears Tower,
but I figured I was behind the times. I don't know architecture. I would have gone with a mountain, But yeah, I'm in. Okay, I'm in. It's the Everest of hats.
And yours is the finest Fuji.
It's the K-2.
That's my favorite name of a mountain.
How many people have died on your hat?
Yeah.
Uh, well, up to date, um, are you, you're canning romance as well?
Oh, sure, yeah. How many, many, many, many romances. Well. Well. Well. Oh. Oh, to? Oh, to? Oh, to? Oh, to? Oh, the romance. Uh. Uh, the romance. Uh, the romance? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the. Uh, the. Uh, the, the, the, is. Uh, is. Uh, is. Uh, is, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the. Uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, many, many. Many, many. Many romances. Moon, we're going to talk just a little bit about your life, I suppose,
but we really want. Have you seen this episode of Bonanza? Sadly, I did. It was a non-Altman-directed
episode and, uh, that's true. I was so mad about the episode that I got, I actually skipped a the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. M. thi. th. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. th. M. th. M. th. th. M. th. th. th. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th about the episode that I got that I actually skipped ahead and watched a couple other.
Oh, you did? Yeah. I was I was angry. I was like, why did I get that one? Anyway, I'm happy to discuss this one.
Well, we never, I mean, we never assigned episodes in particular to, you know, thematically.
I might have chose an episode that had even the hint of somewhere in the frame at any time a woman. That's a rare fine. It is a bit rare. Woman populated episode
of Bonanza. What this episode make you mad? This episode is called the Thunderhead
Swindle and it's got everything. It's got three-fourths of the regular cast and it's one
of them episodes where one of the cartwrights is pressed into the job of a detective.
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Force himself into the situation.
Does he take the law into his hands?
Usually in other episodes of the four I've watched, he knows better than to just take the
law into his hands.
He'll leave things to Sheriff Roy.
And I guess he wasn't satisfied.
So he, he plows on, he trespasses and then kills people while that's happening
and there's no consequences. No, we're finding that the three line of this show is the cart
rats seem to have invented imminent domain. Right, you're right about that. Okay, I see what
you mean. There's trespassing, that's fair. Yeah. Okay. And normally I do love a take the law into your hands situation when it's about women women women women women women women women women, when w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w. the, when th. that, when that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's happening that's happening that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. that's th. th. thi thi thi thi thi that's happening that's happening that's happening that's happening that's happening that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's fair, okay. And normally I do love a take the law into your hands situation
when it's about women, when women, when the government or the police or the something
or the, yeah, doesn't step in to protect women, then yeah, then I like a nice taking. Well, he's
stepping in to protect silver though, isn't that about the same? No. You think you think it's different? Is he going to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to go into to the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. does he, is he going to go into dentistry?
What's happening?
I mean, he literally picks up a hunk.
I think he pockets a piece, too.
It's not his.
Oh, do you think he, did he steal a piece?
I thought he'd be a piece.
Well, he's an investor in the golden curry mine.
But I do think it's weird that a that a that a that a that a that a that a mountain that a mountain that a mountain that a mountain over nothing. Yeah. And ain't that a bitch.
That's true.
Hate that a plot device.
Ain't that a plot device, God damn.
All right, well we'll get into it scene by scene I swear to God.
But Moon, you've got a book coming out, holy shit.
And it's called Earth to Moon.
Why is it called that?
What's it mean? Well, you'll discover that it was a
Something that my mom used to say to me when I was
Spacing out. Oh my god. To bring me back to the present moment
Isn't that interesting? Because let's say what if your name was something else? What if it was Jane? You might say earth to Jane? People say they might say earth to moon? the opportunity? to say earth to moon? their? the their? their? their? their? their. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the. the. the. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. their. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to.......................................... the.... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the te. the to. the to. to. the to. to. the to. the the the to. the the th. th. th. th. the that. They might. And that's just fine. But the opportunity to say Earth to Moon, which then has the double meaning of there is
a moon, which is not on the Earth.
And Gail loved cleverness and puns.
And so, and it was first possibly used affectionately, and then it became a little dig.
And then, the meaning like, I need you to pay attention kind of thing? Yeah and
and then it was followed by sentences I didn't care for and then and so in order
to reclaim myself I I turned it around to Earth to Moon from my perspective.
Wait a minute. So like I might say this table to Dalton is a fine table.
And you're sort of saying in that same context, Earth to Moon. Here's the Earth from the perspective of Moon.
Exactly. I get it now. I'm saying we're here on Earth, come back. And I'm like, actually, I'm from here, Earth looks this way. Right. Do you ever see that picture of the Earth from the Moon?
Is there only the one?
I think they only had time to take the one picture before they had to play golf and get out
of there.
Back then the camera timers.
Yes, go on.
Well, anyway, you just remind to be ball they hit on the moon, that's still circling the moon because there's no gravity up there. There is gravity up there.
No, there ain't no gravity. Yes, there is one-eighth gravity. It's in the first names, didn't you? You just called her Gale.
And that was... Gail and Frank. I was introduced to them that way. Yes, and they are my real parents.
How are... When you were, the day you were born, you were introduced to them? The doctor who did the introductions? Gail and Frank. Gale and Frank introduced themselves to you. Yeah, and when Gale became a grandmother, the grand grand grante. their. their. their. their. Yeah, they they they they they were they were they were they were their their theyselves to you. Yeah, and when Gail became a grandmother, she was Grand Gale. Oh, oh, this is my Grand Gale. Mm-hmm. Okay, that's unusual. Was he Grand Frank then? Frank
wasn't around to see. I don't know what he would have chosen, but yeah, it's very weird to call your parents by the first names from the time you're very tiny. Uh, it does create a sense of zero-nurturing. I. I. I. I. I. It. It, it. It, it. It's. It's, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi. It's, it's th, it's thi, it's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's, thi, th. Oh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. Oh, it's th. Oh, it's th. Oh, it's th. Oh, it's th. Oh, it's th. Oh, it's thi. Oh, it's thi. Oh, it's thi. Oh, it's very thi. Oh, it's very thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, it's very, it're very tiny. It does create a sense of zero nurturing.
I'm sure.
Well, so what was their thinking there?
They just wanted you to feel like you were on their level?
We were just smaller, tall people.
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don't think of me as a mother for any of its good or bad connotations. Yep, Fend for yourself,
don't have a childhood and go. You can't perform poorly at a job if you don't hold the title.
Is that the sort of thinking?
I guess that's right.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
Do you, do you like that idea?
Do you like that idea?
I think that's a neat idea.
If you used to get a job as a bartenderthen the expectations of you would be a lot lower, wouldn't they?
That's right.
And that's why I'm such a high achiever.
Oh wait, oh wait.
Oh, wait.
You're a goddamn high achiever.
You wrote it.
This ain't even your first of the books, is it?
It's my second.
The first one was called America the Beautiful, wasn't it?
Yep.
It came out on September 11th.
Of, not of 2001, though.
Oh, did it?
How did you plan that?
How did you plan that?
I did.
Day one of press, I was getting miced at this has to be entertaining enough to withstand a
terrorist attack and so I think I did a pretty good job of that. I did not see a COVID coming.
Oh, right. But I did, I feel like, I feel like if you were in a cage, I feel like if you were
cage this would be some reading you'd enjoy. Well how am we going to end up in the cage? Are we going to end up in the cage? Maybe somebody's going to hold
you for ransom. Okay well it could happen. I thought they made a cage that could
hold Dolan Wilcox. I can tell you that right now. They've tried.
Okay but this one that was a novel wasn't it? Yes. This one's a memoir, a memoir. Or not, let me call it like an American, an autobiography.
And this one comes out August the 20th.
And so people should just batting down your hatches for August the 20th.
Shit's gonna go down that day.
We don't know what it's gonna be, but it'll be something.
Yeah, right. Hey, can people pre-order it already? They sure can.
Where's that on Amazon?
Or they can go to MoonUnit.com?
Thanks for asking.
What's the Moon Unit.com?
What's that website?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Can I get everything else I can get on Amazon at Moon Unit?
Well, it'll refer you to several places where you can make a decision that suits your personality. Okay.
So there are other options besides the one that most people use.
Right.
And so you can make your selection.
Where are you going to buy your book?
Well, I don't need to buy 10,000 copies.
Well, why not?
Because when I wrote my book, I was told I even had to buy 10,000 copies of my book.
Yeah. A bit different. Oh it is. You got a different deal like this. Yeah. All right. Okay.
And then also I mentioned to you you can normally you can smell and enjoy a book but now you can also
taste a book because I made a tea to celebrate. Wait a minute. This is multi media. You did say that before but I
didn't understand what you're talking about. Right so I've made a special tea
there it is. That honors my book. It's called Earth to Moon Unit T. So you have a
tea company, a little tiny tea company? What is a tea company? How does that work? Well you can go on... Big question. You can go on my website? tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. t. t. t. t. t. t. tha. t. tha. tha. tha. te. te. te. te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te tie tie tie tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. I to te. I to to to to to to to to te. to to te. te. te. te. te. te. te. I te. te. question. I like to know. You can go on my website and you can order my tea.
I have a few blends and I have a couple of single origins.
Do you have a favorite of your tea or do you mix it up?
Like if your gut's telling you I want tea, this is one I mostly go to.
I mostly go to my Daily Moon, which is a smoky, Gray with rose petals. Oh, that sounds real nice. But not everyone loves the taste of barbecue sauce.
And you're talking to two people who I take the bath in barbecue.
By the way, are you going to do some marketing things?
Are you going to do a line of beef jerky and vegan jerky?
What are you going to do?
I feel like you need of jerky somehow, in fact, not just... Are you wondering why?
I guess not, but some of it's...
We got no joke, alligator jerky at one point.
Nasty.
Yeah.
We did.
Yeah.
I try all of them.
I have a strict policy that if something can't eat me, I don't eat it.
theymea.
theymeatr. I gotta eat them before they eat me. I'm not trying to pick a fight with alligators. I think if I run into a goddamn delegator, it's gonna know that I've eaten its kind.
Exactly, and it's gonna go, I better think twice about this fella.
Oh, I hope you're right.
My friend for your sake, I hope you're right. I'm telling you there's one eighth gravity on the moon. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the the the the the the the therea. th. thathea. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's going. It's. It's. It's. It's going. It's. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. It's going. I's going they have built a mill to harness the river for some purpose in the
past.
And there is an episode where Adam falls in and his tupay falls off, remember?
Yes, that's right.
Adam Cartwright, who does not appear in this episode has his two pay fall off in some
river expedition.
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Yeah.
Okay, what's Michael Landon's character's name?
Oh, Little Joe.
Little Joe's hat is a jaunty side hat.
That's right.
And normally for some hats, you have to put kind of a braid in their hair and pin it down. How does he keep that thing on? That's more alarming than Hauss's hat trying to get through doorways.
Do you think these fellas have their hats pinned onto their hair?
I don't know.
I would just, I'm just saying I would love to do a little wardrobe and hair and
here's my thorough.
I think it's different for every one of them, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, th.
as we know from Highway to Heaven and Little House on the Prairie has a fine head of brillopad-like hair and I think it would stabilize that.
I believe that's a rakish tilt.
Hauss on the other hand, I think his head so big that it just, you know.
Right.
And then Lorraine and Adams, two pays are probably built into their hats like Gallagher when
he used to to take off along so well because how old do you think
those boys are meant to be? Oh yeah. Very likely. They're all from different
mothers are you wear that? I did not know that that's scandalous. And they all died
mysteriously. Lorne Green had three wives all of whom he buried but first
each one of them gave him a son and so now he's raising the three sons of his three different wives. Do we have th th th th tho th tho th tho th tho tho tho th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi tho tho tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- thee thee the the they are they are they are they are they they they they they they they they they th. they they they they th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the tean tean. tean te tean. te te thee thee thee thee thee. And so now he's raising the three sons of his three different wives.
Do we have proof that they were dead before he buried?
No, we do not.
We don't.
Interesting.
I saw the one with a sea fairing daughter of.
Oh, because you went beyond episode.
I sure did.
Yeah.
I don't want to tell. No, but I was just I was trying to understand the family dynamic because you're thinking they get along but
those boys are never going to inherit that land I feel. Why do you say that? I
don't know. I mean it just I guess I'm applying modern day thinking to that circumstance. Because the estate taxes will be too much. I don't know and just just that the age, the age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. The age. the age. the age. the age. the age. the age. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I.. I............................................................ t. t. t. t. t.. t.. the.. the the age, the age of the boys, just that
dynamic of being a 70-year-old man and your 90-year-old dad still alive. It seems like that's
where the story's going. They're just, they're never going to get the land when it could be robust about having it. Yeah, oh, I see. He could. Yeah, he could. Well, especially since when they're making this show, when when when when when when when when when the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their Yeah, he could. He could. Well, especially since when they're making this show, when it first came on the air, I
think Dan Blocker was like 34 and Lauren Green was 44.
Yeah.
And he's playing their father.
So, yeah, it adds to the problem.
Yeah.
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27.
What in the earliest days of man?
When they referred to the elders, they're actually only referring to people that were not much
more than 30.
That's crazy.
Is that a hilarious idea?
And the other thing I was laughing at was on Patent's episode, because I also went back. You went back. I went back and forward.
Oh my God.
When he's talking about Haas and I
frankly would describe their potential love experience,
but he describes her as a box of rolling papers.
And I said she would be like, I would rather be with their band of murders who are
murdering, then take a chance with you. Because you are such an enormous man. That made me. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I was, I was, I was, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, that, that, that, that, that, that, was, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. thi. to to to to to toing, then take a chance with you because you are such an
enormous man.
That made me, I think I had to pull over, I was laughing so hard about that whole bit.
That really cracked me up.
So if you're enjoying this episode, go back and listen to that one.
Yeah, right. Well, but this one's going to be good. Because this was a hell of an episode, man. It's all about the th. I. I. I. I. I one. I one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. Well, this one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This one's going. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This, this. This, this. This, this. This, this. This, this. This, this, this, this, this, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this one's going, this was a hell of an episode, man. It's all about the mining. I love when we get deep into mining.
We had an early episode that was all about the engineering of mining.
Oh yes, we've learned about the Philpidusheimer, honeycomb method of timbering of mine.
And I could talk to you about that at length, if you like.
But I won't.
We'll do that's a foolish
thing with all of the, how is that going to be like it's just localized dynamite? Yeah, there's a
fella he lights up a stick of dynamite to throw it his enemies, but it ends up being hoisted on his own
photop? But wouldn't that just kill everybody and collapse the whole? Yeah. Oh, collapsed, yeah. Like, everyone should have been trapped in there, no? Well, maybe that was his plan. He says, forget it, if I can't have this all to myself.
I think he was still trying to maintain the domination over the silver at that point.
I guess so.
So you think it was strategically unsound?
Okay.
I do.
Okay. I will hand it to you. You you. You you. You you. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. you. to you. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the the the the. the the. the the. the. the. the. to. the. the. the. only problem with Bonanza.
Wow, it happened to 63 episodes in.
Somebody found a plot hole of some kind.
We got it done and there will never be another.
All right, all right.
Thank goodness, good to get it over with.
Hey, speaking of the patent episode, we talked a little bit in that episode
because your father's name came up and yours as well because there was a guest actor in that episode whose name appeared in the liner notes of Frank Zappa's first album
and then we did a little deep diving to turned out that fellow was a friend of a guy named
Vito Pellicus. This is someone I have a... And you dated a lady who went to, I believe, theater camp of some kind with Vito's children
Freakus, Pellicus and Groovy Nipples, Polikas.
Does this ring a bell?
We had a painting that hung in our house, like a hallway that was a portrait of Groovy.
And she just grew up.
It was a good idea.
But there was, I feel like the artwork was done by Carl Franzoni, but I'm not entirely certain.
But the artwork, that was one of the portraits, and maybe it was just grooved in a t-shirt and underpants, and then there was an orgy scene and none of it made me happy.
Yeah. Because she was young at the time? Well I mean, I was young looking at it too.
So she would have been close to my age, I would think.
And the picture in your hallway depicted an orgy?
I grew up with an orgy painting, yes.
I see.
Okay.
And there, and Groovy Pallicus was in that picture.
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art style, it's I think it's why I tend to stay away from museums and making
art myself. Because you never know when you're going to stumble upon. Just the
style was so distinct and the colors and the the... You better find out who exactly
that artist was so you can avoid them more directly.
Or maybe track them down.
That's good advice, thanks.
You could call a museum ahead of time and find out, do you have any works by this particular
artist?
Any orgy scenes?
Anything like that at all?
Okay.
There are a lot of classical orgy paintings.
Is that the same, that's probably no good either. Those usually have have the oorgy scenes have the oc, the oc, the oc, the oc, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. You can, you th. You, you th. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You could, th. You're th. You're that's that. You're that. You're that. You're that. You could that, that, thanks, thanks, thanks, usually have cherubs in it. Yeah, that's true. They're like, oh, we're watching over it's probably fine.
There's no cherubs watching over the orgy that was in your whole way of your home.
Yeah. Orgy paintings really jump the shark at some point. Yeah. And also, don't you want to be in the game. Yeah. And also, don't you want to be watching to be in to be in to be in to be in to be in the game to be in the game to be in the game to be in the game the game. to be in the game. the game. the game. the game. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. tho. toooooooooooooooooooooooooo. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the game. I know that's that I actually don't I'd be Disgusting what's creepier being in an orgy or watching one at a distance and they don't know you're watching
Oh, yeah, paint a picture it'll last longer
Never ending orgy. That's what somebody said to that artist he was watching an orgy. They say paint a picture to last longer. He said, I'll get my oils.
Is there an orgy scene in any of the banana episodes?
I don't believe we've seen an orgy yet in any of these episodes.
Would a never-ending orgy have to, by definition,
include sting, to do his tantric.
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Does anyone go to the, there are, tacitly.
Oftentimes in an episode of Bonanza,
the only woman is a very nicely dressed gal
whose job title is saloon gal. And we know for certain that she cozies up to patrons and gets them to buy
a bottle after bottle with her charms. And then it's fairly implied that there can be more
than that in the way of having sex someplace. What would they call it? Did they call it sex
the time or what was the? Good? Probably coyotes or carnal knowledge I bet they
relations, yeah, knowing you, I knew that. That's right. I them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to get them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get their their their their their their their their their. What's their. What's their. What's they they they they their. What's they their. What's their. What's th. What's to to to to to to to th. What their. What's. What their, what their their their their their their their their their their the good probably coyotes or carnal knowledge I bet they relations maybe relations yeah knowing you yeah you knew that woman I knowed
her walking someone home maybe the euphemism that's the interesting thing
because there ain't sure as hell ain't gonna be no premarital sex for the
cart rights they're upstanding young men and they never do get married so just keep
that in mind they're frustrated they men and they never do get married. So just keep that in mind.
They're frustrated, but they'll get some kissing in. Let me tell you some things about the date
that this episode aired. This episode aired on April 29th, 1961. Okay? I wasn't born yet. Nobent.
Nobody was. Hey, God damn, my screen saber. But that happened to be the 100th day of John F. Kennedy's presidency.
He's probably like, everything's going fine.
We only had that one Bay of Pigs.
And then there was that.
I'm sorry, I'll be right back.
Some major mistakes happening outside.
This old, Gorley's folly, it's called this construction project.
the absent mind of professor is still the number one. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to theea. to to to thea. to thea. thi. thea. thi's is probably is probably is probably is probably is probably is probably thimes. The absent-minded professor is still the number one movie at the box office.
You ever see that one?
It's got Flubber.
Flubber is what it's about, but it's got, what's his name?
But it's got, what's his name?
What's his name?
But it's got, what's his name?
Oh, the thrown.
Oh, oh, oh Fred McMurray. Okay, yes.
I think.
Yeah, you're right.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Don't worry by Marty Robbins is the number one country song.
You know that song?
Nope.
All right.
How about you know this one?
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What do you mean by that?
I'm no, do you...
How would your friend Andy Dudley?
Oh, Donald Dudley?
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keyboard that he played it on.
Far FISA?
It's called a Musitron.
A musetron.
If you wanted to have that same sound in your song, you had to come crawling to
this guy that invented it.
Do you agree the song Run Away. I do not. You know? No, because then what about
Led Zeppelin? Who? What? Oh, well. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need any. It. Because, and Dale Shannon,
he also, he recorded this song and then he went on to do a cover album of Hank Williams song.
So even he knew, he said, that's good, we're done with rock and roll. Get back to country. Back to the limitless-a-a-a-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-s th-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, th. th. th. th-s, th. th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s. th-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-wo-wo-wooo-wooo-woo-s. th- roll. I did it all. Get back to country. Back to the limitless three-cord structure of country music.
Exactly.
Yeah.
What was the, why would you describe Frank Zappa's music?
Is it rock and roll?
Ooh, that's a great question.
Um, I don't think I would attempt to describe it.
You're not going to even try that. I will say that all sounds were potentially music.
So they were all paint colors.
So anything that you could, that's something.
How many country albums did he do?
He didn't do country albums that he definitely has country songs.
Oh yeah.
All right.
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Saloon Girl? Are we supposed to take that a certain way? Well, you should
listen to it and you tell me. I don't want to put thoughts and words in
your head. Okay, all right. All right, we're going to listen to harder than your husband. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the. the. the. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. to. to. th. to. toe. toe. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. the. try to find out a celebrity that was born on the day this episode aired.
Man, we got a good one this time.
Japanese voice actor, Fumihiko Tachiki.
You've heard him on, now some of these titles, I don't know if they're, I guess these
are translated from Japanese.
I don't know.
Some of the shows he's been a voice actor on are a Go Go Loser Ranger, Restaurant to Another World, the
Morose Mononokian, a little snow fairy sugar, those who hunt elves and Bebop High School.
I feel like this is, these are all in Quentin Tarantino's private collection.
He just just goes, yeah, put that one on now.
Next to his foot videos.
Yeah, these are reputed to now. Next to his foot videos.
Yeah, he's reputed to have a foot thing, Quentinino.
What's that about?
I think he documented to have a foot thing, not just reputed.
Is it because in his movies he does lots of close-ups on futs?
Is it what it is? Well, I think that's a factor.
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and maybe other people will like it too. I mean, but I mean, don't you think you have some
hidden quirks that are your particular to only you? I don't think so. The way you like it done,
well, whatever the thing is. I know, close as I can come is, but all cowboys do this. the thoyl. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. Don't. they. they. th. th. th in the ground and pour some water in there and then I'll fuck a hole in the ground.
Let me ask you this is missionary a kink. Is missionary a kink? Is missionary a kink? That's a good question because I'm pretty twisted.
I could go I could go sometimes 20 minutes in that.
That's a long damn time.
Me and the earth don't take half that long.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Wow.
If I was listening to this, I would have to pull over.
You would have a laugh about that. I'm glad you're not driving driving the driving the driving the driving the driving the driving the the tha driving tha driving to driving to driving to driving to dr to pull over. You would. I'm glad you're not driving while we're doing it.
Here's some fun facts about some of the people that did blah blah blah blah. The director of
this episode. This is the final episode of Bonanza directed by Dick Motor. This man's
his name is Dick Motor and he's a what else can tell you about? Wait so this is the final episode
that he directed? Yeah, he directed three episodes.
This is the third of three.
Yep, he got stolen away by wagon train.
He went on to do lots of wagon trains,
as did the writer of this episode,
Gene Coon, who is credited with creating their clangons?
Really?
He had the idea their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their Leonard Nimoy both dedicated their autobiographies to Gene Coon.
This guy's really got a thing for prosthetic foreheads.
Is there one of this episode?
Well, no, monsters and cleons, you know.
Oh, I see.
Oh, I see.
Oh, that is an interesting.
Yeah. Now I got a, that's a, now I'm interested. Now you want to know we got her. Weird foreheads.
That's his thing that only he's interested in.
Oh yeah.
Jack Cunningham, the big bad guy in this episode
was played by a man named Parley Bear.
This is his first-
But going back to the big foreheads for just a moment.
Yes, yes. Do you the same question.
Oh yeah, you've got a tall hat yourself.
Are you hiding a gigantic rubber forehead under there?
Hmm.
Yeah, Parley Bear was a circus ringmaster and he worked at, you ever go to Jungle Land,
USA in Thousand Oaks, California?
No. Well, you could go there and you could see the lion from the Metro Gold
when Mayor Roar in the beginning of those movies.
He lived there, as did Mr. Ed.
It was that sort of a place where like showbiz animals would go.
Anyway, for retirement, it was like the SAG retirement home for animals.
I said, sure.
He was on that. Anyway, that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. thue. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that. that. that. that. that. th. th. thathe. the the the they, they, they, they, they, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. that. threat. threat. threat. thou. together. together. together. together. together, together, together, together, together, thou. th. thou. th. th. th. th. that. Anyway, that's not such a fun fact, but he did. He worked there later in
his life, training animals at Jungle Land USA, did Parley Bear. All right, veto scotted.
I feel like Jungle Land USA is a sitcom hiding in plain sight. Of course, just somebody taking
care of a sad batch of showbiz animals. That's a world.
Do you know that Bubbles the Chimp is still with us? I did not know, but I did see an
amazing play at a theater in Outwater where they, somebody, I don't know what it
was, but Lori Metcalfe, was it a gentleman who played, you don't know it at first that he's playing a chimp, and she's signing to her, what you think is her, her, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and thea, and a thea, theat, is, is a theat, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, and a their, is, is, is, is, and a their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a the. is a the. is a the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea son, because she's calling him, treating him like a son, and then you come to find out
it's a show-biz chimp that is just still wishing for the days to be back
with Morgan Fairchild doing doing the good work. I get it. Yeah, I did some work
with Morgan Fairchild and I've just never been as happy. Yeah I guess that's true tr tr tr tr tr th true th true that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's the the that's the that's that's that's that's that's. Because even like it happens to humans all the time,
you have a career high and then the rest of your life you're just thinking back on it. It's
got to be worse for a chimp because the rest of a champ's life, he can't even drive a car.
You'd ever see a chimp. to their chimp. Does Morgan Fair. Do they write? Does she still talk? I'm just an amaze. I can't believe this thing didn't go to Broadway. Because it was so good. What's it called? I don't remember, but I have to, we'd have to look it up,
but Lori Metcalf starred in it and it was just, it was spectacular. Wow. Well, she's a very difficult to work. Well, she's a very difficult to work with what I understand. That's why I didn't that. I've that. I've th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi that that that that that tho that's why I don't that that tho tho tho that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I don't th. I don't that. I don't that. I don't thate. I thate. I don't thate. I don't thate. I don't thate. I don't thate. I don't that's that's that's that's that's that was very difficult. Very difficult to work. Yeah, because you know, they'll tear your face in general's off.
I know that.
Now I want to go back and just read the credits of Banan's
and see if there are any women even working on the show.
Oh, no.
Absolutely not.
No.
No.
No.
No.
. Vito Scotty played Leon Flores. This is a very sensitive portrayal of a Mexican man who
literally registers surprised by saying Aichi Wawa in this episode. That does happen.
I didn't know that went back that far.
Mm-hmm. He, this is what it says on Wikipedia about this feeling.
He was known for his resourceful portrayals of various ethnic types.
Resourceful. Of Italian heritage, he played everything from a Mexican bandit to a Russian doctor,
to a Japanese sailor, to an Indian travel agent. Good for him!
Do you think that he made the choice to have the silver hair in the episode? Was it so he be more accessible?
When I first saw him, I thought, oh my goodness, Jepetto.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
To me, that looks like a wig plus silver.
It's not a wig.
It's a, I think, a spray.
Yeah, spray or like a painked on.
Yeah, like a shoe polish.
Plus a comb over.
Yeah, I guess that's what it was.
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that fella. But why? Because couldn't this fella be any age? That's what I'm asking. Is it
because the who goes to visit him again the episode? Ben does? Yeah. Okay so maybe if they're friends
they's got to age him up? I guess. Oh. Got to have the wisdom of a lifetime of working in Silvermines? Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, the the the the the the the the the their. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the. the wisdom of a lifetime of working in silver mines. Right, right. Yeah.
Right. Okay. Vito Scotty was in the godfather. He's the baker who asked for a
favor at the wedding of the... What? Wait. Yeah. This guy? Yeah. Yeah. Nazarene is the
character's name. He's the baker. Enzo the baker. Enzo the baker's father-in-law. What? I think? Or maybe he's Enzo the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker the baker the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker's the baker's. Enzo the Baker's father-in-law.
What?
I think?
Or maybe he's Enzo the Baker.
Look and tell me for real.
Oh man, his character name is Nazarene.
Oh, so he's just a guest at the wedding, but he baked the cake.
He's the baker.
And his problem concerns his daughter and her man.
And then later at the hospital a fellow says I'm Enzo the Baker and he's guarding over over the godfather who's in the hospital
but that's the son-in-law of Nazarene who we heard about in the first scene is
what I think is going on. I'm gonna need one of those charts.
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But not only that, now that's a pretty good credit.
But here's an even better credit.
He appeared in two episodes of Gilligan's Island as a Japanese sailor who did not know World
War II was over.
I remember those.
Wow, this guy really informed my childhood.
More than Morgan Fairchild.
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my God.
But I will tell you, I just want to get into this a little bit.
The fellow who played Jock McPherson, he was obsessed with gliders into his 60s.
He did, he was a glider.
So much so that he was inducted into the Soaring Hall of Fame. Now
this gets into a whole thing where is it Glidden or is it Soaring. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. The practitioners of the sport of Glidon prefer to call it Soaring.
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So as an award, you want that feeling to be like, and you've done this thing and you wouldn't
go, you wouldn't.
Gliding is very passive, right?
It sounds like, no, I just, wait.
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into a mountain. It's called a glider. It's called a glider and
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That I believe is heaven for a sore, sore.
That's not easy to say either.
It ain't easy.
It ain't easy. R-E-R, never easy.
No, roaer, soar. But I wouldn't mind getting into an argument with a glider about whether
they're gliding or soar. And so I, that's something I'm going to try to somehow execute.
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A lot of effects.
Eight and ten people.
I got my herpes from a cloud.
Don't look at me like that.
Yes, that kind of thing.
Let's talk about this episode. was sexual, but it's loud herpes. That's from cherubs. Well, that's right.
Academy Award winner, Helly Berry.
One touch without a robot is all in text.
Say it.
Never let go.
We're the world now.
Never let go.
Never let go.
In theater September 20th. This episode begins with all three cart
rides riding up on a bunch of neardew whales who have slaughtered a cow. These guys are their
cattle rustling and that's serious. And it's a ponderosa cow. And there's minors who are out of work
because there ain't no silver, no more being found in the Comstock load by God.
But Ben, he goes from being mad at him to completely understanding their
plaque and further to more than that he says I'll go in I'm gonna provide 10
cows a day or something like that. I think they're out of work for two days
total or what is the I wasn't sure of the time? Yeah, time is very difficult to understand.
It worked differently.
I believe in a previous episode it was established that it takes about two days to get
from the Ponderosa to Virginia City.
Now, if you keep that in mind, most of these episodes don't function at all.
That's the case with this one for sure.
Is that why they set that map on fire?
Is that the same?
That's why they do it.
They say, forget about this.
Don't even worry about this.
That is why, maybe.
But little Joe, right here in the cold open he says something very wise.
He says a hungry men can cause a lot of trouble, right? I like that
perspective on hunger. It's just making trouble for us if you're hungry. So they decide they're
going to give, and they go into Virginia City, and it's like a, not quite a ghost town, it's a
listless man town. There's just... It is tricky because Senior Cartwright will benefit from this thing not working out.
What do you mean?
Well, he has stock in the other, in the other mine.
Yeah.
He has stock.
He's a conflict of interest.
That's what I'm saying.
And then his son, is wants to buy stock.
Little Joe.
Yeah, little Joe.
He keeps saying fraud or
no we should buy stock I'm never let's just ride that well this is yeah
Bitcoin yeah exactly basically there's a mine called the Thunderhead and it's
been determined definitively by multiple experts over the years to have no
silver in it ain't no silver in the thunderhead mine anybody knows anything about mine
or silver tell you that.
However, there's a couple of guys named Furness and Cunningham
who have determined that contrary to all knowledge here to forward,
there is silver in the thunderhead mine.
But think about it.
Now you've got a bunch of locals and shouldn't they have heard there's no silver in that mine,
, Shouldn't they have all heard there's no silver in that mine? And then some outsiders come in and like,
actually there is silver in that mine.
Well, that's how desperate there.
Are these men out of work for two days?
Well, going back to your hunger idea,
emotional hunger, too.
Maybe that's it.
That, that, that ambition is a trient of hunger. They've come all the way, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that's, that, that's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a.. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's oh, that's beautifully said. They've come all the way out here to the Nevada Territory to succeed at something.
For emotional, can't even do it.
Statiation.
Even the idea that like don't, don't break their hearts now, let them have a dream.
Yeah.
Just let them have a dream.
Well, so first, yeah.
Yeah. to postpone their awful feeling you're gonna be hungry and then you'd be even hungrier, but for one day, you think you're not gonna be hungry.
That's the conflict of this episode
because Furnace and Cunningham say,
there is silver in there,
what we need is your money to go down there and get it.
So everybody chip in a whole bunch of money,
and even the people who say, yeah, I don't think there is silver down there, but it's okay. Let people get their hopes up and chip in all their money and go down there
and try to find some silver and then there won't be any and that'll be a
bad day, but between now and then everybody'll be happy.
The thing about swindlers, this is what always confounders. Like there's no there's no good it should be a single swindler. Oh right you mean like cross swindling? Cross swindling I wouldn't
have if you don't if you if you're if you're gonna deceive a bunch of people
why wouldn't you're the guy to your left here right also be into the
deceiving like it's such a it's such a tense business. Yeah well.
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Very nice. What do you call them string ties? No string ties? Oh the ribbon ties. Yeah,
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These guys are loyal to one another, I believe.
But that's what I'm saying, how is that even a thing?
Honor among thieves?
Honor among thieves?
Really? Is that a real concept?
Is that a real concept?
the first of your mini scams that you're looking forward to running together. Oh, this is the first swindle? Yeah, you gotta make a commitment. We did it. Let's go on from here,
right. Well, okay, this is, oh, this is the conflict of the episode that Ben Cartwright knows.
He says, there ain't no silver in the Thunderhead mine. Now there might be silver in the gold and currion, the there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there there there there there might there might there there there there there there there there there there there there there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th. th. th. th. th. We. We. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, thin, thin, thin, thin, there might tho, tho, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. Let's the. Let's the. Let's the. Let's the. Let's the. Let in that one. That one's maybe, but this one, forget it, right?
Okay, that's what's going on.
Now it turns out, do we have to get into Bronson?
Maybe not.
No.
Let's forget all about Bronson.
The man who has previously owned the thunderhand mind
and is now selling it to Furness and Ben goes and told us. And then he's tell to sell tolding it's selling tolders. told us told us told us. told us. told us. told us. told us. told us. told told told told told told told told us. told told us. told us told us. to to told us to to to to to thurn. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. thrown. tho. tho. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. that's thu. that's that's that's that's sort of in on the scam, Bronson is.
And then he's talked into honesty.
That's right.
Ben Cartwright says, you need to tell Furnison Cunningham,
deals off, stop swindling everybody.
And he does.
Oh, we do have to talk about it.
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me in a second? Well now I'm really going to be honest. That's the only other lie.
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Man.
I know.
And the generosity of you, that's okay.
That's okay.
He was saving it too.
Like, oh, I'm really going to wait to lie.
This is gonna be fun.
It's gonna make me ten grand.
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not sell you the Thunderhead mine or whatever it is he tells him. And they say, well, we have no
choice but to kill that. Also, what does he think? He's going to just like say it and they're going to. to be reasonable. Okay, we've come all this way. It sounds good. Yeah. It's okay. It's your mind. It's your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your. you. you. you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. the. that sounds. Yeah. And then I'm going to leave the office all by myself in the dark of night tonight,
head on home to the rest of my honest life.
That's what he thought, I guess, didn't work out that way.
Because he, I don't believe we've seen, no, we have.
Seeing a man stabbed in the back to death on this show is very unusual.
I love when you back to death, hung to death. Yeah. Kill it to death. That really makes me laugh.
Stab to death.
He died by that stab wound.
But they made it look like a robbery,
didn't they?
And it was enough to fool Sheriff Roy.
He thought for sure, this just been a robbery.
And he goes out to tell Ben Cartwright, hey, you just coincidentally, the fellow that...
But you warned me about.
Yeah, he was robbed. Same day you warned me, he was robbed and...
And murdered in the process, but I don't see anything fishy about it. I just came out here and tell you, so long,
two days back home. But Ben says, no, God damn it, don't you see it's all part of the swindle. He was not going to participate in the swindle and then he's been murdered.
And Sheriff says, oh, stop being such a killjoy.
We're all going to find you.
I just ain't going to do nothing.
Oh yeah, there's that part of it too.
Well, he needs evidence.
Yeah.
Sheriff Roy, you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're the. of it so I can't arrest anybody and furthermore I'm not inclined to go looking for evidence.
I believe you but I'm an upstanding sheriff I need evidence. Why don't you go break some
laws and look into it? Vigilanty Ben? Right. That's not right. Wouldn't have been smarter for those guys
that were doing the swindle to just put those, uh, whatever that stabilizes the mountain further in so it looked like all from the silver backle to just put those, whatever that stabilizes the mountain further in, so it
looked like all from the silver back was theirs?
Wouldn't that be a better swindle?
They didn't think anybody.
A lumber swindle?
A lumber swindle would have been better.
And then, because honestly, who else has those maps?
The surveyist?
Yeah.
Does anybody else have those maps? the surveyist and the man that knows the minds.
Does anybody else have those maps?
Just those two maps?
That seems hella risky to have no other copies of those surveys.
And by the way, have you ever tried to get a surveyist out to a property?
I in fact have. It's not fun.
You can't do it in an hour. No, you can't much like the day's ride if they're coming for Virginia City too.
Right. But plus word has to get to them two days. Yeah, they have to find the map.
Then they have to, they're mapping the map in the dark too. Yeah, I know. They go into the cave. With no lantern. They're just relying on the lantern. They're relying on the lanterns. They're right. They're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to to to to their to to th. to try. try. to to to try. to try. to to to to their their their their their their their their the on the lantern. You're right, they didn't. They went in there barehanded. Barehanded. Yeah. Just feeling the way along. Well, we're getting a hit a little bit because
first what Ben does is he goes and he talks to Leon who knows the Thunderhead like the back of his hand.
He says, I chew the wawa. He improvises some dialogue. It sounds like about where his wife and children are, totally unnecessary to discuss, but and it sure didn't seem scripted.
I don't know what happened there.
But, maybe so you'd feel something for him when he died?
Okay, didn't work.
Okay.
But, but he's an unfeeling stone.
What they decide to do, Ben and Leon is to sneak into the Thunderhead mine and to see what's going on bring with them a map of the mines. And what they discover is that the Thunderhead mine and for sure has no silver. However,
the Gould and Curry mine which is right next to it does have silver and you
can see it's separated by a wood. A beam.
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He says, he knows exactly, it's going to take me six hours.
From inside the cave.
Yeah.
Who put the door jam up?
The bad guys. with the silvers on their side. But they're illegally putting it on the Golden Curry side.
Is that right?
I don't remember that.
Now I got to watch it again.
It's a dividing line between the Thunderhead and the Golden Curry.
But it's a false one?
No, it's a real one and they just put it there to help Leon figure out their
crime.
It's a plot thing. Okay, I see. But I think I think it actually has the silver on one side of it and
the non-silver on the other. Right. I'm not prepared to allow us to be a flawed show. I have
to go back and watch that one scene. You shouldn't do that. You don't have to. I wouldn't wish that on you. No, it's great. Yeah, I watch these episodes. thrown. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I I'm not. I I I'm not. I I I I I I I I I'm. I I I. I I I. I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Is this is where Robert Altman got his chops though? Yeah. This is where he not this particular. No I
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this where he learned everything. Well okay so now oh the bad guys see Leon and they
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doesn't make it makes perfect sense? That does. It makes more sense in this episode.
But now they know Leon is a what? He's an impediment to their success.
Well you know they've got to go to his house and kill him. And it's a well shot killing. It gets a close-up on the gun and you see the realization in Leon's eyes, I'm gonna die.
Why didn't he say I-Chi-Wawa here?
That's a good question.
It could have been a nice callback.
I guess he didn't want that to be his last words.
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He's too honest.
That's his problem.
Honesty, honesty has killed everyone in this episode so far, damn it.
Well okay, now what's gonna happen?
Oh, Cunningham is gonna handle Ben.
I don't know what.
Leon shows Ben maps out.
I don't know what.
It's not a great role model for honesty. This episode? Honesty does seem to get people
in more trouble than lying. Yeah. So I can see how lying is more compelling. In general in life,
I think that's wrong. But yeah. Okay. What is this about, Jog? I don't know. Look, here.
Let's cut to the chase. We come down to why did Ben sneak back into the mine?
I don't remember.
Because he had to show the sheriff, right?
Yeah, he needs evidence.
And so now what's going to do, grab another piece of the silver?
Right.
Plus the map, wouldn't the map, wouldn't the map itself be the sheriff?
Is it Ben and the sheriff, there. Okay. No, he brings the surveyist I thought. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Survey guy. You're right, the guy in the yellow jacket. He can provide. So why does he just take the survey guy to the sheriff?
Because the survey guy has to first be absolutely certain. Yeah, that's right. Okay, so Ben goes down with a surveyor. And now they've got a map and they're going to confirm that a crime has been to confirm the crime. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Bea. Bea. Bea. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. Be. the survey. the survey. He. He. He. the survey. He. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. the survey. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the survey. they're going to confirm that a crime has been committed and they say to Little Joe and Hauss you guys come along and you're going to stand look at
don't do anything but stand lookout and oh no they're supposed to cause a
distraction in case the bad guys come looking for it. Did they at all say where
Adam was this episode? Nope. It seemed like he was gonna come
because they said they referenced him at some point. There's another Cartwright boys, you know. He's just not in this. He just didn't feel like
coming to work. This is just likely true. Yeah. Now what happens? Is there a backstory
about that? He just wasn't happy on the show. He thought it was I don't know. Yeah, he wanted to do other crappy television.
I mean, crappy television, this is not. Anyway, uh, okay, wait, so now,
for no reason whatsoever, Hoss and Little Joe attack the men who are guarding the
entrance of the mind. I think because they move towards something and they're like, oh, that's, I guess so,
but they attacked him and then a shot is fired.
And that's really what causes all the problem in this episode.
Because now a shot's been fired outside the mine,
it's been heard inside the mine.
That alerts the bad guys, that something's up and they find Ben and the surveyor, now we have a shootout. So many lives are lost in the
mine. Many people die and there's a stick of dynamite that's involved too that
takes out some people and then what then what happens? Oh what happens? I guess, well
obviously Ben and the surveyor survived, they come out. Oh I I like to, by the way, this is, okay.
When they discovered that Leon has been killed, the sheriff's reaction is,
ah, it's too bad he's a good man.
He doesn't care much.
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and then it's self-defense and then all killing is fine?
Uh, luckily it's not a state in Nevada yet, so none of this matters, law-wise.
Isn't it, it's not a state. It's still a territory, I believe. I know they have law there, but it seems real fast and loose. Yeah, exactly. So now, but it's a happy ending because the
silver turns out to be in the golden curry mine, which Ben has a stake in, he's made a ton
of money overnight. And what's he going to do with it? I'll buy a beer with my share?
Yeah, with my share or a meal, is that what he says? Yeah, yeah, with my profits.
Just side, side question.
When people with hats are excited, why do they toss them into the air?
Oh, well, what else you're gonna do with it?
Why can't you do yippie with another way, I don't know?
It sounds like you've never been truly excited because I believe it's an involuntary reaction that if you're wearing a hat and you're excited, you just do it. You just throw it off.
Yeah. Say Morgan Fairchild.
Morgan Fairchild. Woohoo!
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Yeah. Odd job from Goldfinger was never a villain. He was just always excited and throwing his hat.
And it unfortunately had a razor blade in the rim. Well, it's a boom found in the one mine, but not to other, and bad guys,
they're all dead, aren't they? Cunningham and Furnace and all the and all
the fellows who weren't necessarily bad but was just kind of working for them.
They're all dead. Yeah, they've conquered greed and swindling. Yes. But ultimately doesn't greed and
swindling come from also like a deep hunger, deep need. Maybe they also want to give their ladies special frocks and things of that nature.
Oh, uh-huh.
You think that's what the miners want to do?
I feel like either they are just, I mean, what are they going to do with all that
money anyway?
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Yeah.
They just keep swindling people until one of them double-crossed the other one.
That's right.
Right.
Yeah.
That's a tense life.
It is a tense life.
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that there's only 368 episodes left of this show for us to discuss on this podcast.
Isn't that tragic or what? I think the next one is really good. Oh yeah? Oh yeah. Oh I think Robert All Man directed it too. He did. You would have liked to be back. Yeah, I'll that, the the to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to the to the to to the to be the the the the the tho. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I would have liked to be. Well, you can come back. Come on back. Yeah, I will come back. Yeah, that'd be great. We'd love to have you back.
Oh my God. Absolutely. I have other hats. Oh, yeah, Brian. Fantastic. All right.
Well, maybe next time we're here, it could be that at the end of this moon is gonna say no serious.
I'll never be back. But we'd love to have Moon back any damn time. And Patton is supposed to come here
because it's a Robert Altman episode.
He's agreed to do every one of them,
but so we, but we haven't gotten into scheduling yet,
but that's that.
Your book comes out August the 20th.
It's called Earth to Moon.
It's all about your life.
Give us another tidbit.
There's a nudity. There's, right, right, right, right, right, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's a there. Oh yeah yeah there's a showdown and and then there's some there's an
internal showdown too. Oh my god I can't wait to read it myself. Hey are you
going to read the audio book of it? I did. You already did that was it fun?
It was really fun. Really? I've heard that it's difficult. Did you not do an audio book of your book? I did, but I don't know
who to send it to. They didn't tell me where to send it.
What? Just direct mail to listeners. Okay, I do that. Yeah, sure. Maybe I'll put it. I want to read your book,
or listen to it. Yeah, it's called you must buy your wife at least as much jewelry as you buy your horse and other poems, and other, and to to to to to to to their, their, and their, and other, and other, and their, and other, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, a life on the range. And it's mostly recipes for beans, but there's also poems in there.
It is, yeah, to find its way to the general public.
You can get it at B. Dalton.
Oh, hey.
Hey.
All right, well.
Yep.
I'd love to have some of your jerky, and I'll trade you for some of my tea. Fantastic tea for jerky, we're winning.
Yeah.
Wait, no, we're losing.
Wait, no, we're winning.
Jerky tea?
I smell a collaboration.
Yeah, hot ship.
Just put jerky in some hot water.
Earth to moon.
Earth to moon.
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