Bonanas for Bonanza - Re-Release: Bonanas For Bonanza Episode #14: “The Sisters”

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

Subscribe to The Andy Daly Podcast Project at Patreon.com/AndyDalyThis week's guest is Merrill Markoe, legendary TV writer and the author of "We Saw Scenery"! Dalton, Mutt and Amy discuss her childhoo...d watching Bonanza and the time she fell in love with a Nazi. Then they dissect season 1, episode 14 of Bonanza, "The Sisters," in which Adam and a saloon girl are spied on by a pervert horse.Featuring Maria Bamford as Amy SleeversonMerch: redbubble.com/people/ADPodProject/shopMail: PO Box 9407 Glendale, CA 91226Email: bonanaspod@gmail.comAndy’s website: andydaly.comRelease date: Nov. 23, 2020 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're about to listen to Bananas for Bananza, episode 14. This is Andy Daly. Hello! Here on this free feed, I'll be re-releasing all of the back episodes of Bananas for Bananza one every other week. If you want to hear new episodes, add free. Please subscribe to my Patreon at Patreon. atom slash Andy Daly. The entire Bananas for Bananza Archive is also waiting for you there, and you can access lots lots of bonus content. So do your great outdoors inside, take some ponderosa pride and forever made.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Right. I'm Banas for Bananza. As always, I'm gonna start off with a real loud yah. I think I'll make it, I think I'll make it a, I'm all to start off with a real loud yah. I think I'll make it, I think I'll make it, uh, two decibels louder this time. So just to count for that there, Brian. Here we go. Yehah!
Starting point is 00:01:15 What happened? Well, I fired off a bullet in the name of one, Stephen Glander from Oshkosh, Wisconsin. This goes out to you and yours and hope you can make a love connection this week, Tiger. All right, each week Mutt fires off a bullet dedicated to a listener. I didn't hear the actual fire in this time. I think something went wrong with the sound. Oh, maybe I was using silence or who the hell knows? Might have been that. Okay, folks. Hey, this is it. Bananasas. Ban Ban Ban bananas. Ban bananas. Ban bananas. Ban. Ban. Ban. Ban. Ban. Ban. Ban. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. S. M. S. M. S. M. M. S. S. M. M. S. M. S. M. M. M. S. M. S. M. M. S. M. M. M. M. S. M. Bananas for Bonanza. You already heard from Mutt-Taylor there. Wait, I'm going to say the thing I always say at the beginning of these episodes. Hello, friend, come on in. The gate is open wide. Yep, it's Bananas for Bonanza. We talk about America's television show, Bonanza, episode but episode. And this time we're talking about season one, episode 14. Now, unfortunately, there's only 431 episodes, total of this show, so we're just gotta savour everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:10 We're getting damn close to the end. And you already heard from Mutt Taylor, regular co-host, Amy Slaverson is here as well. Hello, Amy. Thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate the subject matter of this particular episode is two biblical women, just like Marian Martha or Lott's daughters. Yes, that's right, folks don't know,
Starting point is 00:02:35 Amy Sleverson is a Christian entrepreneur and a biblical scholar, and a Bonaansa, and those two overlap to a surprising degree, the Bible in Bonanza scholar and those two overlap to a surprising degree, the Bible in Bonanza. And you see some biblical overlays here with these two sisters? Oh, yes. One sister is pretty and then the other one is also pretty and then the other one's mad and then the other one's not mad and she's really happy, but the other one's mad about it. That happens all the time in the Bible. All the time in the Bible.. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the Bible. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Bible ti ti ti ti ti ti toooooooooooo toooooooo tooooooo toooo to to to the the the the the the other one's not mad. And she's really happy, but the other one's mad about it.
Starting point is 00:03:07 That happens all the time in the Bible. All the time in the Bible. I agree both sisters are pretty, but one of them is just a, it's a major issue, how decrepitally old she's become a major issue. I mean, she must be at least 32. Good heavens. And Methuselah, man, I could I could, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the o, the o, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the the the the the the, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other th. th. th. thooo. th. the other one, the other one, the other one, the other one, the other one, the other the other. Methuselah. Man, I could not, well this episode is called The Sisters, by the way. I could not be more excited to tell you about the wonderful guests we have on this episode. We really did it this time, man.
Starting point is 00:03:32 We got a fantastic guest. This woman is a hilarious writer and she's written books and TV. And I am reliably told that anything you've ever enjoyed in the medium of a comedy talk show was invented by this guest. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Merrill Marco. Yeah. How's it going, Merrill? It's going good, I think. You know, I'm also a Christian entrepreneur. Really? I didn't know that. Do you work as a part of a sales team or do you have your own business? Both. Oh, what is it? What, well, Amy Sleverson's business is a sort of a multi-level marketing situation.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Is yours that kind of that same model or what? Mine is unilevel. Oh, unilevel. There's just one level. That and where you don't have to have parties. Because I'm shy. It's hard to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the to have their. to have their. to have their. their. their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. thiolioliolioli. thi. thiolioli. thi. thi. thioliolv. thiolv. thiolv. thi. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. toea. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. thea. th have parties, because I'm shy. It's hard to have so many parties. No, we don't have any parties. We never have parties. What sorts of things do you sell there as a Christian entrepreneur? Well, we're not sure yet.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We're just working on the catalog. So far, I think all we've got, we've got a nice flyswathe in development. Oh, fun. That's all we've flies is thiiiii flies thi flies the thi flies their thi flies thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to have thi. to have to have to have to have to have to to to the to to to to to to to to to to have to have to have to have to have to to have th development. Oh, fun. That's all we've got. Well, flies has come around when there's devil like in that movie, Exorcist, so you need a fly swather. Like with Mike Pence when he was on the debate. Yeah, except, yeah. Yeah, he's a good Christian for sure. There's no deny.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Because mother wasn't around to kill the fly. That's one of mother's jobs, I take it, mother pants. Mother might be the fly. It's part of motherhood in general, I think. Taking care of vermin's and insects, I suppose. So at least why is out on the range, that's how it was. Well, yep, okay, well, that's exciting. And you've got a brand new book. And this book is, I'll read. It's part of my unilevel marketing, by the way. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Because I'll tell you, I read it. I'm hard-pressed to think now of what the Christian content was in it, but I guess it was there. You just got to know to look for it. Well, when I was, it's based in my class. Yeah, I didn't realize he was a Nazi even though he was doing Hyle Hitler when I would walk into the room. Oh. I didn't realize that was an insult. So you like bad boys? Right. You know, I guess that was a beginning of liking bad boys. I don't think they get more bad than that. No. Yeah, I understood. I have to say. that. that. that that that that that that their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. their. their. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. the. the. the. the. the. the. their. the. the. the beginning of liking bad boys. I don't think they get more bad than that. No. Yeah I understood, I have to say I understood your position at the time because it was a little bit like well at least he's paying attention to me.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's what I felt he was paying attention to me and I didn't realize that he was representing the Third Reich. Right. Yeah, Nazis are known for paying attention. Yeah. Some kind of attention it turns out is not I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to their I understood their I their their that I understood I understood I understood their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their that I that I understood their that I understood their that I understood th. I understood th. I understood th. I understood thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I understood thi. I understood thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their that I understood third right. Right. Yeah, Nazis are known for paying attention. Yeah. Some kind of attention it turns out is not as good as other kinds. No, definitely not. It's something we learn in life. We learn that from this episode too. Oh my goodness, do you ever? This episode, Bonanza? Really? Yeah, that's a good way to think about it. Those old, old sisters. But the one really, really, really old. That poor old. He was one like pushing 38?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Maybe. I hate to think of someone that old. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's a, it's a wonderful book. And so the story is you found, uh, fairly recently, old diaries you kept as a child? Going back to what age was it? Oh, 10. Ten years ago. I started writing them when I was ten. And the reason I made them into a book is because I took them out. I found them recently and they had a lock and a key so I thought, what is it? I was locking up every night. I'm not writing anything that valuable now. So I thought, well, I'll sit down and I'll read it and I'll review it like, since I know that that kid went on to become a writer, I'll read, I'll review it like a piece of literature. And I found out that what I had done is when I was 11 and 12 and 13, written down
Starting point is 00:07:35 every single thing I did every single day, which is not how I keep a diary now, but it was a real good answer to the question, what you do in fifth grade? Which I had no answer to that question. If you'd asked me what you do in fifth grade before that, I would have said, that was girl, that was girl scout? No, girl scouts was sixth grade. I wouldn't have known. But now I do know.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So I started illustrating them because I thought it would be interesting to see what I did every day in fifth grade and then I thought I'd make it into something. And then, you know, then I became a Christian entrepreneur and I made it in real book. Fantastic. That's a great thing. You've got to get into writing when you should really get in the big Christ's money. You know, because Christ got the book going and then that's been the biggest seller of all time. Exactly right. I'm hoping that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi theeee an the an the an the an the an the an the an the an throoooe an the an the an throe an thi. I th's been the biggest seller of all time. Exactly right. I'm hoping that this will be sort of a follow-up big seller. The Bible, tell two cities and then my book would be the three big sellers is my hope. That Jesus, he worked all the angles. He wrote the most popular book ever and... He was such a workaholic that guy. Oh for sure. And he says to himself, I'm gonna have everlasting life so I can keep collecting them royalties. That was smart. No, man.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Meryl, if I sent you just a quick sample of my new book. It's a relationship guide for Christian women. It's called Tricks. And it's how, how you get what you need and want without anyone knowing it. That sounds fantastic. That sounds so useful. Yeah. Yeah, there's a there's a scene and well we'll talk about it in the episode where yeah, the older of the two sisters really coaches the younger one on various tricks to trick. Oh, she has some great tricks. I, in fact, can we get to that right now? Can I, can I, can I th. Can I th you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. the th. th. th. th. th. th what th what th what th what the what the what the what the th. th. th. th. th what th what th what th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. one on various tricks to trick the man. Oh, she has some great tricks. I, in fact, can we get to that right now? Can I, can I mention my favorite trick? Uh, yeah, sure, we do go, believe me, we go scene by scene.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But, so I should wait until we get a lot of the stairs. Well, I mean, I don't she had to do a lot of reconnaissance before she said yes to a penting something. She had to know where all the entrances and exits were. My God. Yeah, it's not easy to enter a room by way of coming down the stairs, unless why as you live there, right? Well, yeah, you'd have to and you'd have to know there were stairs and if there were no stairs, you'd have to know, okay, I'm gonna come in through a back window. I'm gonna, you'd have to always know some way to come in besides the obvious way and that would take a lot of work. A lot of I applaud her for that. She must have visited a lot of basement homes.
Starting point is 00:10:20 She must have gone to a lot of basement homes. Oh, so she could come in on the ground floor but make an entrance on the stairs. Basement homes and bomb shelters. Or she could do that trick where you go, oh, oh, oh. That is one way of entering a room. I mean, there's one right there. Is that the trick where your your audience is on the other side of a couch from you? Pretend you're going down the camera. Yes. Stairs, escalators, elevators, and canoes I think are the...
Starting point is 00:10:53 She was she was such a pit that woman and she really didn't have a chance to show that side of her and this bonanza. Oh, don't count on it. I don't believe we've ever seen a woman come back more than once. No, you'll live. Not as the same character, don't they? Not as the same. They all die off. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, but I think if you're committed to always making an entrance by coming down the stairs, you either have to get their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the they, they, they, the they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the in an upstairs window through a ladder and both of them are unreasonable in my opinion. Exactly, that's my point. It just, it took a lot of ingenuity and you got to, she would be a guest you would want to invite just to find out which way she was going to enter. Yeah, after the entrance, you could send her home, but that first part you got to see. So yeah, well anyways I was I I I I I I I I I the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. yeah, well anyways, I was reading this book and you says in there that you was a big fan of watching television in the 60s and I says, well, she has to have been a Bonanza fan. I was a Bonanza fan and I didn't realize,
Starting point is 00:11:56 I watched a lot of Bonaenza. I didn't realize many things about Bonailnix has. I didn't realize many thinea things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things thing watching this one. For instance, I didn't realize what tiny teeth Cornell Roberts has. It looks like he has teeth that should be wearing teeth, like teeth that go inside teeth. Little, little pointy love-like teeth. Little, many, many substrates that need full-on veneers or something. You think it might, it it could be that the teeth is regular size, but the rest of his head is just so big? I mean, it could. That could definitely be as well. I also didn't realize how the show looked like it was on a set so much. I mean, to me, I thought it was outdoors and was in a town, you know, when I was a kid, but now it just looks like it took place in some shopping mall that has been recently refurbished to look old Westy.
Starting point is 00:12:48 A Northwoods Inn, Clearman's Northwoods Inn. You guys got that restaurant around here? Look, Clearman's Northwoods Inn? The ones with this fake snow on the roof. Folks, if you're ever in Arcadia, Check out the Clearman's North Woods in. That's right. I'll tell tell tell tell, I tell, I tell, I'll tell, I'll t, I'll t, I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. thw, thw, the the thweree, the the the it's the place where the real beard Santa Clauses meet every year.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Well that's great and uh, yeah, so you was watching it at that time and you was also watching my three sons, which is a blatant rip off of Penanza. And have you noticed by the way that none of the sons ever looked like, I mean, I assume that means that Lauren Green had three marriages? Oh yes, this is a this is spelled out in great detail in the pilot episode of Bonanza where it is explained that Ben Cartwright had three different wives all of whom died. He buried three wives. Is that true? They really spelled it out in the pilot. Oh yeah, they make it very clear that Adam is the son of a Boston woman and
Starting point is 00:13:46 She's the one with a tiny feet and then there was Joe is the son of a Creole New Orleans fancy woman and then Haas is the that's called for Jewish I think it might be and Haas is the son of a big Swede and so I think they just did a thing where they cast these three actors and realized somebody was overthinking it and said they don't all look like brothers and then they went to a lot great pains to figure out how to how to justify that and also how to justify that there wasn't going to be a regular woman on the show. And then also did you notice that I think Lauren Green was the makeup model for our president, our ex-president. Yeah, well he looks pretty orange, huh? He's very orange. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:14:35 yeah. They really slathered that makeup on with like a trowl, I think, on those days. Yeah, he did. He was not much older than the rest of the cast at that time, which is strange. And we've also learned now that he had a hair piece on there. Can't believe it. Yeah, Pernell Roberts too. I think they said to Pernel, do you want hair or teeth and he says, I'll take hair. My tick-tac teeth will be just fine. Thank you very much. They don't. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the th. the th. the the th. the the th. the the th. the their. their. their. th. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the the. the theee. they. the the. the. they. the the the the. the the the both in the makeup chair. Yeah, yep, that makes sense. Well, all right, that's good. Any other interesting, because now you're saying you've gone back and revisited Monanza after it's been a long time and these are some things you've noticed. Yeah, yeah, and I thought Sue Ellen, you know, I like that they always say they always say everybody's first and last name when they they're say...... they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're this. That's right. But they never they never say. Yeah they would say Sioux Ontario they say Adam Cartwright or young Cartwright you always get your last name in there when
Starting point is 00:15:35 you're talking the and you always use their name in every sentence that you except if you're the drunk you just get Dixie. Oh Dixie. Oh Dixie. That's old Dixie. Yeah. But he had the best wardrobe. That was one nattie looking drunk. Yeah, he was. He was. He was. Yeah, this is a great episode. This episode really, really has everything. It's got gunfire. It's got hop sing. It has non-consensual kissing. It has a real who done it, and plenty of what you call euphemisms for fucking in there, and it's plus it also has the entire cast. We've been watching these episodes now from the beginning and most of the time, two of the members of the regular cast, half the cast in the first scene of the episode they
Starting point is 00:16:24 are dispatched with for the entire episode. They just don't you think the of of of of of of the of of the the of of the of the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi the of the of the of thi the of the of tho. tho. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th regular cast, half the cast, in the first scene of the episode they are dispatched with for the entire episode. They just said, we're off. Don't you think Dan Blocker was mad when he read the script and saw that he only got one scene and it was him being comic relief crawling around on his stomach looking for chickens? It ain't the first time. He was once in a candy shop scene for about the whole episode. It's so funny because he's bigger than the other ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And he is bigger. He has a white hat and they all have black hats. Oh yeah. Hey, wait a minute. I just realized I forgot to press record. Ha ha. Tough luck, Ryan. Who's Ryan?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Brian? Oh, well, I just started recording. That's funny. Well, anyway- I just wanted to pitch my, a new line of jewelry that I'm putting out on behalf of this episode. It's for women whose husbands are taking anger management courses.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So when they see what you have on your necklace, they kind of, it helps them slow down, you know, because she had such beautiful jewelry in this episode. So it says, you know, treat me like a friend, you know, as you would have franned in script or halt. H-A-L-T, don't get too hungry, angry, lonely or tired, and I have those with, they are, they aren't made in New York but I could sell them to you to you you you you you to you to you to you to you to you to you if you to you if you to you if you if you their their their their their. their, or tired. And I have those with, they aren't made in New York, but I could sell them to you if you live in New York. They're all made in China, but sold in the USA. So this is a, yeah, so you're a woman and your spouse or boyfriend or whatnot has anger management issues.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And this is just a very bright, shiny necklace that would sort of stop them in their try.......... I. I. I. I. I, to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their to their to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to tell. to to to to to to to to their their their their their they're they shiny necklace that would sort of stop them in their tracks before they acted out. I definitely would like to buy one of those although I'm not saying my boyfriend or husband has anger management issues I just would like to have one. One earring says breathe and the other one says through your nose. Would that work if I have anger management and I could just look in the mirror? Yes. Okay. Can you sell some that is written backwards for people to look in a mirror and calm themselves down? Do you have any to just say ambulance? You guys you have so many good ideas?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Oh, I'm writing it all down. Amy, I'd like to partner with you if you could, because I've been kind of brainstorming some novelty gifts where I want to sell some candles called None of Your Beeswax, and you open the box that ain't nothing in there. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, it's pretty funny, right.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I that's funny. It serves you right for opening a box that says that says that says that says that says that says that says that says that says that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's funny. It serves you right for opening a box that says none of your beeswax. I still get a crack out of it and I thought of it a while ago. Yeah, that's how you know it's a good idea. All right, well, why don't we talk a little bit about, I want to talk about these various people that is in this show and made this show. I like to start out the show with some fun facts facts the the the in it. And we talked, so this episode has Buddy Ebson in it. You all know Buddy Ebson, Barnaby Jones and the Beverly Hillbillies, and he plays the final Hollygo Lightly's father in that Breakfast of Tiffany's. He broke character in this one. He was reaching for a different coloration. In this episode of Bonanza.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Wait, do I have this wrong? Wasn't he her husband in Breakfast at Tiffany's? Oh, is that it? He could have been both, to be honest. I mean, they're hitting at some crazy shit in that. Maybe that's it. Her, her, his character's name was Doc Go Lightly, and he's a bit of a yokel who comes into the big city for an awkward scene. You're right, he's shuffling from foot to foot. Yeah, he's the only character, only redeeming character in that movie, except for funny,
Starting point is 00:20:12 Mickey Rune is so funny that movie. Then we got, uh, then, oh, you know, Buddy Ebson was the original ten man in the wizard, their toys, they originally said, it. And they brought him down there, and they put all that silver makeup on his face, and he became horribly ill. I think they wasn't even silver makeup, it was just molten lead. Maybe that's what it was. But then the funny thing is, they said, well, buddy, you can't do the fellow look like he's made a ten, they said let's bring in another actor and see what happens to him. They was just going to go. I heard that when he did Beverly Hill Billies, he was insisting that they put that silver makeup. Oh man, he got hooked on it.
Starting point is 00:20:54 He thought I'm going to prove to someone that I can live through this silver makeup. Yeah. Every role since the 10 man it's in his contract. It's in his contract, and they have to go here and post-production and try to make them look unsilver. They gotta unsilver him. So, now this is a true story. He got sick from silver paint, and then you hear that story about the girl in Goldfinger dying from gold paint, which ain't true. Oh, that's not true. No, it's not true if you paint somebody completely in gold paint You don't kill them. No, you don't kill them. I guess you kill them if it's paint full of lead like buddy Ebson had but but their skin can't breathe their skin can't breathe so they suffocate It that turns out your skin. Damn it, you know that you know that? I didn't know that. I didn't know know know know. Did you know. Did you know. Did. Do. Do. Do. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. the. the. the. the. the. their. the. Do. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. The largest organ at the body is your layer is the skin.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah. But it don't have lungs. Your body does. Your skin doesn't have lungs. This is shocking information. So what did that woman, what did that woman die of in the goldfinger? Because she was dead. Oh, I didn't, oh's a there's a myth that the real actress died. Oh, I said.
Starting point is 00:22:06 You ain't never heard that? I ain't never heard that. Well, I'm glad I paused this podcast to talk about it for so long. I guess that's why really when you think about it, you rarely hear the serial killer just painting the victims gold. I guess it's slow and it's not that. And they can do just as well being a house painter. Yeah, that's true. If you're that good at painting something that moves, you might as well become a house painter, which doesn't even move. I made some lotions at home that I was manufacturing.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And I just put in household bleach just because sometimes for, there's this condition called molasma. And, you know, you, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is th is th is th is th is thin, thin, their, their, thin, thin, their, their, thin, thin, to to thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, because sometimes for there's this condition called molasma and you know our former president he's so good at just saying well try this you know I thought well I have an intuitive medical not working knowledge of how things work so I just you know put a, put a little bleach in it, but it, it stings. Oh yeah, bleach on your skin. Yeah. Yeah, you guys keep referring to Donald Trump as our former president. Yeah, I'm confused by that, too.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I'm confused. We're recording this on November 11th of 2020. And you're being real hasty, because he's, you know, who knows how any of these states are going to go. It's all up in the air. I heard, I didn't hear it through Q and on, but through Alanon, I heard he died. A lot of strange theories being thrown around Elin. Well, all right, yeah, that all their relatives are drunks. Yeah, that's what they say. So, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, all their relatives are drunks. Yeah, that's what they say. So, uh, we also had now, playing the role of Sue Ellen Terry was a woman by the name of Fay, Spain. And she, uh, she was in a number of important films such as Hercules Conquerors Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And she also, in which Hercules conquers Atlantis, just as it says. She also played Hyman Roth's wife in the Godfather too. Isn't that something? Yep. Wow. I went back and watched her scenes. She is only seen in very wide shots from behind. From behind, tending to her husband like a nurse.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It's just about the only time. He's alarmingly skinny in this movie. I hope they weren't starving her. And she remained that skinny all the way through the Godfather too. I can tell you that. But yep. Well, maybe she had to do that because she knew she had a corset scene coming up. And she really prepped for it that way. Yeah, that corset scene. She has a big deal. And that's a big deal. that. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. th. the. the. th. the. the. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's a music. It's. It's. It's a music. It's soundtrack that you can play for your home, like for your home when there's fights around the house. That would be very soothing during a fight. What a beautiful, or it would drive people berserk. What are some of the musical selections in that? Florida Lee. Yeah. Flerda Lee.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Frerezaca. Beautiful. Yeah. So when the temperature starts really rising and voices are being raised you just tu thu-tha, you just turned that on that on that on that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. That would th. That would th. That would th. That would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi thi. thi ththe temperature starts really rising and voices are being raised you just turn that on and it goes tinkl tinkl tank tank or what not and. Or at least probably too I bet you that one. Yeah yeah how does that go? Tinkle ta ta l'lal ta l'lal la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. Yeah. I think that's how that. Beautiful. That is calming me down. I have to say yeah, I started this podcast red hot and now I feel real calm. I would say that's either going to stop the fight or make the fight 10 times more disturbing. It might, yeah. Right. Either one of those two. You want to rise in music, music when you're discussing things
Starting point is 00:26:10 with their family. Oh, sure you do. Gene Willis played Amelia Terry in this episode. And she was, interestingly enough, she played Nurse Sally Withers in Invasion of the Body Snatchers, which we was talking about last. People in this show all had a big horror movie background. Oh really? Did you notice that in other other cases too?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, who has? I did. I noticed that the director, I believe it was the director did the thing from Out of Space and Twilight Zone. Oh, yeah. Christian Niby. He's, he's, this is at least the third episode of Bonanza, he's directed in season one. There's a bit of a controversy as to whether he really directed the thing from outer space. People think maybe Howard Hawk really directed it but he just put Christian Niby's name on it to be nice. So, so it says out there. That's like what Stephen Spilberg did Toby Hooper. Is that that's, that's like that's that's like that's like that's that's that's like that's that's that's that's that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like th, th. th. th. th. that's like th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's thi. That's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi. thi. thi's thiiii. thii's thiii. they thi. thi's thi? Oh yeah, you know I'm a big film lover. Sure. Taylor. Yeah. But anyway, that's that's a thing in there. Yeah, horror.
Starting point is 00:27:12 There's lots of horrors and westerns in everybody's resumes. And by the way, I did notice that except for Buddy Epson, every one of these guest stars was in an episode of Perry Mason, which I know was another show you liked as a young person there, Merrill. I did like Perry Mason. I would like to do a shout out to the musical director of David Rose, who really aids your enjoyment of this episode and the fact that even though it's very, very simply written, he makes sure you understand what the emotional context is of every scene by really underlining it with a big dramatic sting of music. And he had a very dramatic background, I believe that's worth mentioning. He was married to both Martha Ray and Judy Garland.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So that gives him a full range of emotional complexity, I believe. Are you guys sort of getting a tooth theme running through this? Because you got Martha Ray who did all them denture commercials and you got what Pernell Roberts's tiny little pointer teeth. Something's going on here. There was something going on. There's something very disturbing that I really don't want to think about too hard. Yeah. Yeah. Now, it's not that special to be married that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's that's that's not that's not that's that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's that's that's that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that. that's that's that's that. that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. the. the. the. to be married to Judy Garland, right? Because a lot of people have that hang out on there.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I think a lot of people who are married to Martha Wray, do. Is that right? Are they quote unquote married, you know? Right, so yeah, he's just sort of in the chorus of those two people's married lives, perhaps. There's a lot of people in there. Yeah, I don't don't tho television show. I never notice it. And listen, I really noticed it in this one because he doesn't make you have to wonder what's happening. He lets you know with a big orchestral sting that something bad is about to happen or something wonderful is happening. In fact, you could just listen to the musical score of this and turn off the sound and you could still understand what the plot was.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You can tell where the whore is. Exactly right. Yeah, the only time the music really sort of made itself known to me was in that hilarious scene with Hop singing and Hoss were just trying to catch chickens. Oh, see now that was whimsical music. Very whimsical. It was it was incredibly oppressive. And then every time they showed a woman it was music. their. It was a music. It was a wh. It was a wh. It was a wh. It was a wh. It was a wh. the wh. It was whi. It was whi. It was whi. It was whi. It was whi. the whi. the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi, the whi. the whi, the whi. It was it was incredibly oppressively whimsical. And then every time they showed a woman it was music box music. Oh wow. See that. That's called the leap motif. Isn't that something I don't know. My husband won't let me have a diary. Meryl or it's actually it's a new form of diary how I do it is know, like in libraries where there's a giant dictionary out on a, that's how I keep my diary so he can read through it whenever he wants. I think that's wise. It's important to not to not keep secrets from someone you're close to you.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah. Yeah. Track them. Or else, write in secret code as I do in my diaries now. So it can't really be detected. They can look through it but then they won't know what you're saying and only you will know. And then later you go through with your code detector and you translate it again. I say, oh I'm being abused. Exactly. And he says oh that's what she she went to the grocery store. And got me pop tarts. So every time you write down I got me pop tarts, you know it means I'm being abused. No, it's the opposite. Oh, oh, it's the, oh, you're not, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You'd rather have him read, I'm being abused than I got me pumped tarts. Or just so he knows, you know, you know, you that I that I that that that that that that that that I that that that that that that that that that that that that I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's you know, that I'm thinking of him. Oh, I see. Okay, all right. Yeah. It's a trick. It's from one of my tricks. Oh, I can't wait to read that book. I'm gonna give them out for Christmas. I'm gonna buy many copies. Yeah. One of the main tricks is lying.
Starting point is 00:31:01 That's always a good trick. I don't think think think think think is a thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too, too, that's, that's, that's thri. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. thi. thi. trick. I don't think there is a better trick developed by man in the history of civilization than lying. You just, I can't think of a time with lying is so good at it and he never really got the credit for it. Yeah, well and then we've got John Stevenson played John Henry and he had a fantastic career in cartoon voiceovers. He was on G. I Joe as General Hawk and General Flag and General Franks. He also he played Augie Doggy's Father Doggy Daddy and he was Mr. Slate on the Flintstones. John Henry was? I play John Henry? Yeah he was. Now I'm gonna I want to share my screen with you because I'm gonna show you I read something on his resume that I never
Starting point is 00:31:45 heard of before. Because I have to admit the first time I looked at him, I just thought when I saw him in the duel, I thought if only they'd cast Chris Elliot in this part, then we would have had an episode. And we would have had some laughs. He's a funny fella. But I had never heard of the show, the partridge Family 2200 AD. And John Stevenson played the role of Ruben Kincaid on this show, and I want to show you just the end of the opening credits of the Partridge Family 2,200 AD cartoon. A dog in those days had nine vertical teeth. That's really unusual.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It's back again. That's, you're seeing there in freeze frame, that's the character of Danny, played by Danny Bonaducci, I think, having made a gigantic sandwich for his robot dog to eat. Here's the rest, just the end of the credits. I hope you hear it as well to see it. The Partridge family. Showing us how it's gonna be. The Partridge family. We're loving it all and having a fall in 2200 AD.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Wow, what do you think of that? I think it's the Jetsons. Yep, me too. I noticed there was coronavirus particles in there for one minute. You see that? They predicted that. You notice their little... Before they all came through in the little circles, it was coronavirus. And their little space cruiser had the same kind of patchwork pattern as their bus. Yes, I did notice. That's a nice touch. Yeah. They thought of everything on that cartoon. What happened to Danny Bonaducci? He he thiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They they th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They thi. They thi. They thi. They thi. They thi. They thi. They thi. They thi. thi. theea. We thea. We're thea. They're thea. They're thea. They're thea. They're thea. They're thea. They're that cartoon. What happened to Danny Bonaducci? He had his own reality show for a while and it was very disturbing, I recall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Last thing I remember about Danny Bonaducci is that he had a boxing match with the fellow that played Greg Brady and it was like for charity or something and the fellow that played Greg Brady was like, well, this is all for goofs. And Danny Bonaducci, like, trained for a year. And fucking like, really, I'm gonna beat hell out of Greg Brady. So I imagine it's been smooth sailing since then for the, both of them. Yep. I remember that. Then old Dixie, who we talked about, he was in the movie, I was a teenage were a the the the thole......... the the th. th th th thinin'. th thi. thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. thin'. th. to, toe, too, too, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. th. th. to, th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the the the the the. the the the. the the. the. the. the the. the. the. th. th. toe. th. th. to. that. Then old Dixie, who we talked about, he was in the movie, I was a teenage werewolf, which was Michael Landon was the star. If you ever see that movie, Merrill, by any chance? I did see that movie. I didn't buy that any of them were teenagers. So it's a
Starting point is 00:34:15 problem. I was a kid when I saw it and I remember going, that guy's 37 if he's a day. That's not a teenager. Did he have a monologue of drunk storytelling? That's a specific acting style. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I don't know if he... Wow, I'm going to go watch it again and see. I don't know. Yeah, well, he has a classic drunk scene in this episode of Bonanza. Well, those are all the...
Starting point is 00:34:42 Who has the classic? Oh, Dixie. Yeah. Yeah. He actually does the old bump into a post and say, excuse me, sir, I didn't see you there. Can't get enough of that. He might have invented it. He might have invented that. Well, okay, if there is, was there any other research interesting things? You, you had looked up there, Merrill, before we move on. No, just that all the three people credited in this, also the writer, Carrie Wilbur, I believe was the name. He wrote for everything. He wrote for, yeah, Carrie Wilbur, he wrote for Barnaby Jones, Captain Video, Lost in Space, O'I.Five O, Rawhide, Star Trek, Woman, General Hospital. He wrote a lot of General Hospital. I think you can feel that coloration in this. There's some general hospital here and there, sprinkled in.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah, he wrote another episode of Benang that we already talked about. He wrote the Space Seed episode of Star Trek, which was, it introduced Ricardo Montalbon. And something to do with with bringing people from ancient Greece to outer space, right? Oh, is that what that is? Well, I've unfortunately read this part of his Wikipedia page, and not only, but also it was rewritten three or four times, finally by Eugene Rodnberry, the creator of Star Trek. So I'm guessing whoever Carrie Wilbur was married to that night did not enjoy having him come home. I'm guessing he was not a happy writer that night after not enjoy having him come home. It was Martha Ray. He was not a happy writer that night after being rewritten by Gene Roddenberry.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Oh man, he must have been pissed off. Yeah. Yeah, Yep. Oh well. But yeah, what do you think he was married to Martha Ray at that time? the two? Maybe they all had to be married to Martha Ray at one time. Maybe that really held th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that. that. that. that. the. to to to that the. to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the th. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. the thr-wooooooooooooe. the. the. thr-we. thrown. Oh, to to to to to to to to to to Martha Ray at one time. Maybe that's what really held this episode together. Everybody in that era was on Perry Mason and married to Martha Ray. All right, well, I think it's a good time to take a little break and when we come back we're going to go as I say seen by scene of season one episode 14 of Bonanza The Sisters. Don't go anywhere! All right, we are back. This is it. We're going to. We're going to dig right into this episode, The Sisters, and it's a fine one, as I say. It's got, it's got, it's got, I truly believe it has everything. I've tried to make a list. I made a full list of everything I could think of, and it was all in this episode. the thousand it's all in this episode. the the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin's thin's the thin' the th. the th. the th. thin' the thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin's thin's thin's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the thin, thin, thin, thin, the ruly believe it has everything. I tried to make a list. I made a full list of everything I could think of, and it was all in this episode. Yeah, these last couple of episodes have been high drama, you know, real intense.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Super high drama. Yeah. Well, okay, it begins. Uh, in a beautiful outdoor setting is definitely not on a sound stage. This one was? Oh, definitely. not on a sound stage, beautiful outdoor setting and all. It's definitely a sound stage. This one was? Oh, definitely. Sometimes they shot outside and sometimes they shot inside and I can never tell. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I also was noticing that those horses were not horses that had ever been on a ranch. Oh yeah, you know a thing or two about horses. Those horses were very, very groomed. Those were not horses that have been out riding across the range. Oh yeah, oh that's interesting. I don't know why that would be because the fellas live out there on the Ponderosa so and they'll ride their horses across the the plains all the time. So I don't know. We did a lot of grooming of them. I guess. I guess. I guess. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. Oh. thi. Oh, th. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. tho. th. th. th. th's what Hop Sing's jobs. That's like when you watch Veggie Tales and it's Bible Stories and you're like, oh, the Bible wasn't vegetables. I didn't know Vegtails, Bible stories. Oh yeah. Well, so all four of our cast members ride up and then there's a fancy fellow,
Starting point is 00:38:40 and man in a top hat and there's a woman riding side saddle behind the bushes to sort of spy on what's going on. And it's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, to to to to be to, to, thi, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, ta, ta, tha, thithe top hat and there's a woman riding side saddle behind the bushes to sort of spy on what's going on. And it's going to be a fancy duel between Adam Cartwright and this fellow named John Henry. And they do the ten paces and all that. And Adam stands there strong and stands upright as he's shot at. He doesn't blink an eye while this fellow shoots at him. And then he marches right up and he's well within his rights to just murder John Henry right then and there however he wants to, but instead he shoots his pistol in the air like a gentleman he says, next time you insult Sue and Carrie, I'll kill you. So, and that's obviously the woman that's hiding in the bushes and we understand he's defending the honor of a woman in a duel. Beautiful. What exciting first thing because I got so many questions.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Why was she hiding in the bushes? Why was I was wondering. Why didn't she just ride up and watch the duel out and open? Or say, stop, stop, don't shoot each other for me? Well, I think you could tell for a moment she got a bit of a kick out of it. She sort of liked the idea these two fellas gonna shoot one another about me. You know, I think you saw that in her face. It's fun to be for people that hurt, hurt other people on your behalf. Yeah, I guess I wasn't thinking it straight.
Starting point is 00:40:00 You're right. Yeah. So then we go to the opening credits and I believe this is the 14th episode of Bonanza to feature the burning map in the opening credits. Which is just a fun fact. And then, well, we'll go to a saloon. And there's that woman that was side saddle on the horse now and she is a, well, I don't know. I mean, what is she a waitress, is she a bartender or is she? She's just called a saloon girl, which leaves a lot of interpretation open, I think. Our family goes to Hooters because of the quality of the chicken and the service. You cannot get those chicken wings and chicken tenders unless you belong to Costco. These girls are working themselves through college. Uh-huh. Yeah, Hooters is wonderful. I go there all the time. So this is just an example of a young lady, you know, just working for a living. So she's a saloon girl and she walks up to John Henry, one of the dual participants. They have a little scene there where he knows she was watching. And he says to her, he goes, you've been treating me like th. I like th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd thi. I'd thi. I'd th. I'd th. I'd thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I th. I I I I I th. I I I I I I I I I th. I I I th. I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I go. I'd th. I go. I go. I go. I go. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I go th. I go they have a little scene there where he knows she was watching and he says to her, he goes, you've been treating me like a biscuit-eaten dog.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah, and I was wondering, is there another kind of dog? You know? Yep. Every dog will lead a biscuit. Yeah. So I'm wondering what breed he was thinking. Yeah, plus that's a happy dog too. I think that didn't work very well. I thin that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that that that that that that th. that that that to to be to be that. thi. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. toda. toda. today. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. toda. to. to. to. toda. think yeah. Yeah. So that didn't work very well. I think that he intended that character to be the precursor to Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet. Oh wow, that's right. These got crazy eyes just same way. But I do think it would have been an improvement all the way around if they would have cast Chris Elliot as that character. Well but he would have been real young at the time Chris Elliott just just a boy. Wouldn't it been it be be th th th he th he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to a boy, wouldn't it been? I would have liked to see him that. Yeah, I guess so. It might have worked. You're right, he would have been an infant. Yeah, but they would have made it work. Well, he gives her a necklace and she doesn't want to take it, but eventually she does. But then she does take it. She does take it. I thought that was an unusual acting choice. Oh yeah, well he kind of, she says I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have so she doesn't want to take the necklace and he says it would hurt me more if you didn't and so she
Starting point is 00:42:14 she takes it. It's a emotionally complex scene. That's what jewelry is all about. It's the burden of it around your neck. Like a noose. Yeah. She had that necklace forced upon her. Then we go to the Ponderosa Ranch House and Adam and Ben is there and Ben is upset with Adam for doing a fool thing like getting in a duel. There's a shot in this scene by the way where we see a rack of rifles on the wall in that room that is like it is, they are. There's also a very weird rug placement in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, in that scene, that scene, that scene, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that thi thius, thi thius, thiolus, thiolus, thiolus, thiolus, thius, thiol. thius, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, the necklace, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's their their theus, their their their the the that is like it is they are armed. There's also a very weird rug placement in that in that scene I noticed. Oh yeah. The little area rug when you walk in the door is very weirdly placed. I didn't understand whether it was to keep you from tracking mud into the house or if it was just sort of an object to make the room look better.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Watch that next time. It's interesting. I will take a notice of that. I wonder if there's a trap door under there. Oh yeah, right. It probably is. Somebody crosses the threshold and you don't want them there. That's a really, that's a common design choice though, the rack of rifles
Starting point is 00:43:21 along one wall of your living room because it's for, you know, when you just have friends and family over and you just decide to have a mob or just somebody gets a bee in their bonnet and says, you know, let's do a posse and take the law into our own hands because we can do that. There are a lot of posse in this episode. Oh yeah. They were going to be gone together I guess. Yeah, dinner conversation sometimes turns to shooting and it's good to have rifles and handy.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So well, anyway, this is where we really understand that Adam is in love with Sue Ann Terry. He says some women are worth a lot of trouble, he says to Ben. And Ben says, she's been friendly with more than one man in Virginia City. That's the first time I think we get a real, real euphemism for fucking. I think that's what he's trying to express there. And that's where David Rose really shines. Did you notice at all the music as he went up the stairs after he said, some women are thah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thus, thus, thus, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, theeeeei's, thea's, thea's thea's thea's thei's thei's thi's thi, said some women are worth the trouble and all this. No, no, no, no. Oh, man, that music really tells us.
Starting point is 00:44:28 He was really inspired by the word trouble, I guess. Yeah, well, it lets us know that, two things. One, that Adam has a very odd opinion of love is that he doesn't know how he feels he says about Sue Ellen Terry, but yet he almost killed someone over her. So that's a very uncertain emotional level for him. And the other is that something really terrible is happening in that scene. Oh yeah. He's letting us know that this is something really to be considered that he's with that dark, dark crescendo of horns and piano. the piano. the piano. the the the the, the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the he the he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the thin the the the thin th. th. the the the the o- thin the o-in the o' the o' the o' the o' the o' the o' the o' something really to be considered, that he, with that dark, dark crescendo of horns and piano. Did he play any music over biscuit-eaten dog that could get us any closer to understanding
Starting point is 00:45:13 what that means? I wish I'd been able to talk to him. I thought a chicken dinner was a euphemism for fucking. Oh, Amy, language! It may be. Well, it's okay to use it if it's in regards to the reality of Bonanza. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. I want to find out that when they had that music when he walks up the stairs, the music continues through the dissolve into the next scene, which is the beginning of a picnic. A beginning of a picnic. And it becomes a picnic, yeah, I'm going to show.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And it becomes a pastoral of so. Oh, yeah. Beautiful. So he lets us know there's something dark, but yet there's something light. Oh, interesting. Man, that music is doing so much. It's affecting me emotionally, and I'm not even noticing it. Man, that's how good this guy was. I want to play a little a a a a little the little the littlethe picnic scene. This is a scene where she has prepared the food and he likes it and she says good it's nice to know I can please a man so that we just know what we need to know about them and he plants
Starting point is 00:46:17 to kiss on her that she wasn't expecting and then she sort of she tries to say like, she tries to talk about herself a little bit, and Adam makes it clear he's not interested in that. And this scene ends in a spectacular way. The way this scene ends is something else. Here we go. Let's watch this clip from the picnic scene. Come here. I'm just trying to be honest with you. I said come here.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Here. Don't you want to know what I am, but I really am? I'm tired of talking, come here. And they two start making out. And then we hand right over to the horse who is clearly watching them. That horse is absolutely watching them. And I thought the way that camera panned over, I was like, oh man, there's going to be a villain in the bushes. Here's John Henry is looking at him, he's going to attack or something like that. And instead it goes right onto the face of the horse and then the horse turns his head to watch the the the the the the the the the the the thooooooooo the th. th. th. th. thoooooooo. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. thoo. thooooom. to thoom. too. tho. tooom. tooom. too. too. to to be to be too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. And t. t. t. t. t. to. to. to. to. to. toooo. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And t. And t right onto the face of the horse, and then the horse turns his head to watch the
Starting point is 00:47:25 two of them. He's a pervert horse. That is a pervert horse. That's exactly what I thought. I was thinking to myself when I watched that. Apparently, they didn't plan on anything being at the other end of that pan. I guess. I guess that's right. They just panned it out of horse. They knew they had to get the camera off the two of them because the things is getting
Starting point is 00:47:46 hot. Maybe this is one Christian Niby was drinking too much. You know, that may be. Maybe he had a dip in his life during this episode. I know Munt you've told us before about what happens in that play equis and is that a horse watches somebody have sex and thin' that, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, thi, thi, is, is, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thin, is thin, is thin, is thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, is thi, is thi, is That's exactly right. A young religious fellow has, well, I'll say, he fucks. Okay. And there's a stable full of horses watching and he feels so guilty about it, he pokes all their eyes out, right? So, you know, if Adam wants to have any kind of penance, he's got to poke the eyes that horse out. Yep. Okay, well, I'm sorry, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're. they're. that. that. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's. th. It's. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. theea. that's. that's. that's. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. It's. It's.. Well, I'm sorry they didn't show us that scene because that might have been funny.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And it is pretty funny that she says, don't you want to know what I am? And then he says, come here. Because he doesn't want to know what she is. He doesn't want to know a damn thing about it. It's not a good idea in a budding relationship to know too much. How, how are you supposed to fall in love? Exactly. Get over here, I'm tired of talking. He knows what he wants. Well then, it's nighttime in Virginia City. This is when we see old Dixie, a mistake, a hitching post for a gentleman, and boy, oh boy, I laughed. I had a pause it. I was laughing so hard the idea talking to a hitching post. And then Adam and Sue come along and old Dixie insults. to to to to to to to too. too. Oh, too. Oh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I'm too, I too, I too, I too, I'm too, I'm too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I too, I that I did talking to a hitching post. And then Adam and Sue come along and old Dixie insults Sue and uh, it could, and now it really begins to seem like Adam's got his hands full defending Sue against insults. And Dixie says, ask her about me, Cartwright. And she says, there'll be others like him Adam, man out of the past who hate me.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And yeah, that old Dixie sure seems bitter. This woman is a handful, wouldn't you say? Yeah, she needs a lot of defending, like, she's like Vietnam. And she apparently can't get out of a carriage either. He lifts her out of the carriage. That I thought was sort of unnecessary, but yet interesting. And then he kisses her while still holding her, which no one has ever done for me. And that kind of said to me.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Not even the one time, huh? No. You want to come up to my shipping container up in Lake Tahoe, I'll do that for him. Wow. Mutteller lives in a ship and container. He's illegally, illegally squatting on what used to be the Ponderosa. That's right. My husband wears a brace around his back so he could just carry me everywhere so I don't, run away! We have so much fun!
Starting point is 00:50:13 You guys, this is my favorite couple I ever heard of. I know, I wish I had someone like you, Amy. You guys got it all. Oh, yes, we do. And we're writing the Bible now together, because he said I couldn't make the the to make the Bible, the Bible, to make the Bible, the Bible, to make the Bible, to make to make the Bible. to to to be the Bible. to be the Bible. to be to be I couldn't do it. Oh he said you're gonna make it boring and I says no I'm just gonna make it short. That's good. That was your project and he took it over huh? I love it. That's right because he is better. Yep. Well then we get our scene our very funny Hop Singh scene. Hop Singh is out there he's feeding chickens chickens and he's gonna grab one of them because it's, they's, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're they're they're gonna they're they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they HopSing scene. Hopsing is out there, he's feeding chickens and he's going to grab one of them because it's, they're cooking up a dinner because Sue Ellen Terry's coming over for dinner and Hoss comes out and says, I'll show you how to catch a chicken.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And this is the scene where we learn, would have never learned this before that Hauss, Cartwright has no depth perception. He takes these dives for these chickens and he's a few feet clear of them. He just dives straight into the dirt. It's tragically sad. Could I ask something? That scene really made me worry for the chickens. I mean, I started to worry and never stopped worrying the whole scene. You'll notice there was no animals were harmed in the making of this production. No, some animals were harmed in the making the f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f them them them them them them them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them them them them them them them. He them. He them. He the f them them them them them them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He them. He the f. He the f. He the f. He th th th th th th th th th th th the the. He the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the chickens. You'll notice there was no animals were harmed in the making of this production.
Starting point is 00:51:26 No, some animals were harmed in the making of this. All animals that were used were harmed. Except for the pervert horse. Including that horse, yeah. Hoss walks into frame at some point, holding the chicken by the feet. And I thought, well,. That were no prop chicken. Hey, can I ask? That's when you, what happens when you hold a chicken by the leg upside down,
Starting point is 00:51:49 he calms down or she calms down. Oh. That's what my husband does. To you? I'm stiffen. I stiffened and I played dead. Well, I remember in our last episode you said that you had been diagnosed with rigor mortis at one. And that's. And that's. And that's. And that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it, thi. that's, it's that's that's, it's, it's, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. that's, it. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. the the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's the. It's, the our last episode you said that you had been diagnosed with rigor mortis at one time. And that's, uh, yes, that's very serious.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Everyone said, oh, is she okay? And I wasn't. Right. Are you okay now? Have you limped up at all? Well, you know, you have to kind of prop me up on different things. But no, I just, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. to, to, to, th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to kind of prop me up on different things. But no, I just, you know, mostly it's, what I've been trying to do is just bring pillows everywhere with me.
Starting point is 00:52:31 This decorative pillows, I have a whole outfit I've sewn together of decorative pillows, my husband doesn't want them on the couch anymore. This is why I'm bringing them with me! That's a great idea. That's a great idea. Yeah, I'm with your husband on that. Get them damn pillows off the couch. Yeah, fuck all those pillows. Am I using that right?
Starting point is 00:52:56 What? Fuck? I don't know. What? What? theymeak? It's unclear, I would say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Well, only if you think, if the pillows are, aren't men, male pillows, like if they don't have a hunting theme. No, I got to say I had a dog that actually saw when you would put the pillows on the couch like fix the couch up, it was as if the couch had put on a negligee and would just jump them and would hump the couch for the duration of the time that you were in the room with him, which I found amusing. But some of my friends didn't particularly care for. I lost a lot of friends that way. Well, don't you think the dog was just trying to dominate the couch? I had that conversation with the dog and that's not what the dog
Starting point is 00:53:50 will have told me. No. Was that a biscuit-eaten dog? That was a biscuit-eaten dog. Definitely. You don't know why something's being raped. I think that's been made clear in so many biblical stories. You think, oh it's it's not good. Remember last daughters, they raped their father, but not because they wanted to, it was because they made a decision because they wanted to spread the seed of their ancestor. Anyways, I'm not explaining it right. No, I think you are. I'm always happy to be reminded of the fact that Lott's daughters rape their father. I mean, I just forget it after every time I've heard it. It's amazing. Remember it. I got it. It's in there now. Well, okay. Then we go to Virginia City. It's the daytime. Adam runs into the sheriff. By the way thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. thi. the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. thooooooooooooooooooooo. I. toda. toda. today. their their their their their their their their their the sheriff. By the way, this show goes through sheriffs about as fast as it goes through women.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And also I'd like to point out at this point we see that Adam is the only one who has giant cups on his jeans. Oh, yeah, he does. I don't know whether that's because he was short and the jeans. The jeans that they bought for the rest of the cast were just he was just, he was walking on the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. te. te. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. the the the the the the the the the the't cuff them up for him. He had, they made them like big boy jeans by. I think he thinks he's the Elvis of the West. Oh, I see. He's a so. Yeah, he is. Those jeans must have been like a, like a 52 end seam or something like that. They just cuffed him up big time right over his boots. Yeah, so and buddy Ebson as the sheriff steps forward and the sheriff He's heard about Adam and Sue Ellen and he doesn't like it one bit and he's but and he's also a real gossip. He says you're getting anywhere with her? Yeah, and man Adam doesn't like that one bit and then David Rose comes in with a piano glissando. I believe you call it. What the hell is a glissando? Oh, what did that indicate?
Starting point is 00:55:48 What did that indicate? Because that sounds like love to me. I was not sure. I think that, uh, I was not sure. But I'm gonna have to watch that again. I should have to look into that further. I think it's a bit of a tra tra tha tha we later find out the buddy Epson had a thing for that. Don't tip this.
Starting point is 00:56:08 That's a spoiler. Did I spoil it? Okay. Well, no, she does die. So it's Jesus. That's right. For three days. That's not a spoiler if he comes back.
Starting point is 00:56:21 That's the scene where we learn that the sheriff is what they call in Alcoholics Anonymous and Alenon an enabler. Oh, who's he enabling? Oh, Dixie. Oh, Dixie. Yeah, the guy says, I'm thirsty. I need a drink. they. He's a real politician.
Starting point is 00:56:45 He's very concerned about upcoming sheriff elections, and so he'll do anything for, he refers to the citizens of Virginia city as voters all the time, talking a lot about voting. And I guess one way to get old Dixie's vote is to give him money to get boozed up. Yeah, that's the sheriff, if he'd he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's he's he's he's he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he'd he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's hea. He'd hea. He'd to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to hea. He hea. He hea. He hea. He he. He he. He he. He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the. That's true. Yeah, he's very politically minded, fella. And he stops by the home of Sue Ellen and her sister, and just when he runs into, we run into Sue Ellen's sister, Amelia, and he says to her, sober and watering flowers, I can't believe it. So obviously, Amelia's got some kind of a past. And, and yeah, what does he say? The message he has for Sue that he conveys through Amelia is that Sue should stop messing around
Starting point is 00:57:31 with Adam Cartwright. He's afraid they're going to get hurt. And Amelia goes in and she has a very poorly hidden bottle of booze behind a clock there on the mantle in a very fancy house and that's when we first see Sue up in her bedroom dancing like a little ballerina in a music box. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the message the the the their their their their their their the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the message the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the music the music th thu. thu c. thooooooo. the. the, thea. the thea. the me the thea. the mea. the message the message the message the message the message the me the mantle in a very fancy house. And that's when we first see Sue up in her bedroom, dancing like a little ballerina in a music box to a little ballerina in a music box. How do these girls, do you suppose, afford this house? Well, fucking.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That's a good question. Yeah, fuck it. It's the fanciest house we've ever seen in Bonanza and I think it yeah I think we're meant to understand that they've been bilking men for fancy necklaces and all that. Yeah they fucked their way into luxury. Am I doing this right? I didn't think who has it? I thought it was just like kisses. Oh maybe it was kisses and picnics. Oh maybe it was kisses and picnics. Like they have a kissing booth? Picnics and then bringing, you know, tet-tets at the bar. Oh, yeah, Bon Mots, Trist's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Mm-hmm. Well, then this is a scene we were talking, this is a long, long scene between Amelia and Sue Ellen. And this scene, by the way passes that what you call it Bechtel test in that in at no time in this scene are these two women not talking about men and there is a moment where that's not true that the one scene where she I have already talked about this but where she discusses how she comes into her room. Well yeah but that does end with her saying when I get to the bottom step I'll the the the the the the the the the the the tap the the te te the the te. the the the te. te. the the te. te. the the the te. te. te. te. I te. I'll the the te. I te. te. te. te. they. te. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te, but that does end with her saying, when I get to the bottom step, I pause so a man will take my arm.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But that's true. There was a part of that that was about the stairs. I think Bonanza's pledges, hereby I hear to forenounce, this show will never pass than a man. May I got a wrong. But there's a, yep, this is the corset scene where Amelia is really strapping her little sister into that corset and at some point she says to her breathing isn't important, which is, I don't agree. That's one thing in this episode I don't agree with. I think you better be breathing. And Amelia... I also noticed that on television shows of this era, women brush their hair for a very, very long time. They get the hair and then they just, it's like they work on it for
Starting point is 00:59:53 an entire scene. Like you have to just keep brushing your hair, brushing and brushing your hair. That's a good point. Yep, that's true. That's like men would be Whitlin on a stick and women to be brushing their hair. Yeah, I have some business. Mm-hmm. Well, and this is where we learn that Amelia has tried so hard to train her sister in the ways of tricking men. And she says, what, what, she says? Sue asserts her independence. Oh, yes. Sue just lays down the law with her sister. And she says, I'm gonna marry me Adam Cartwright. I'm not low-class trickster like you. And yeah, they really go at each other there. But then she shows that she follows the tricks and that she drops the drink.
Starting point is 01:00:37 She does the drop a drink. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, yeah, that's in the chicken, the chicken, the chicken, the chicken, the chicken, the chicken, the the chicken, the chicken, the chicken, the the the chicken, the th. thatch. thatch. thathea, thathea, thathea, thathea, th. th. th. thathea, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. that. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi in the next day at the ranch house. Yeah, drop a drink. This is a scene where now we're back, it's a fancy dinner at the Ponderosa. The boys are all dressed up like Colonel Sanders like they do when it's fancy dinner time. And Sue Allen is telling lie after lie about her rich father and how much she loves good wine and then she spills her wine while... And David Rose puts in some Dragnet music. It sounds like it came from Dragon.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Dunn, no, no, no. Oh man, that's that we know you're lying. You've been busted. And she says when she wants to go home and Ben Cartwright, he doesn't try for a moment to talk her out of it. She says, it seems like the beginning of the evening and she says I'd I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi's. thi's thi's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. thi. thi. the. the. the. thi. And the. And the. And thi. And th. And th. And th. out of it. She says, it seems like the beginning of the evening, and she says, I'd like to go home and Ben says, I'll get your rap. Like, yeah, yeah, you better get out of here. After getting dressed up and everything, you'd think he'd be disappointed. I mean, you'd think that they would have cooked the dinner and everyone got dressed up and they'd be annoyed that she was leaving at that that. I know. They really went all out. But like we say, Ben's not too wild about this relationship. Well, then we have a very beautiful scene. Do I have a, yeah, I'll have a clip from that I'll show you. And this is the scene where Adam is dropping off his bride to be, and these two is going to get married and they're going to live happily ever
Starting point is 01:02:02 after the two of them. And he's just dropping have a a a little the little the little the little their th. and they're gonna live happily ever after the two of them. He's just dropping her off at the house. And they have little exchange, goes like this. What are you thinking? I'm all about you. I'm sorry about tonight, Adam. I try to impress your father and your brothers and I just made a big fool myself. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Oh, it does matter. It matters so much. My father wasn't a big merchant in St. Louis. See that? They're coming together to challenge each other the truth. Look at those teeth. He ran a small notion store. And we weren't rich, and we didn't have a big house, and we didn't have a lot of servants. Are you very disappointed? Jesus.
Starting point is 01:02:47 He loves her so much. This is a true... But he will doesn't. He just try to keep me away. He comes in for the kiss. These two are going to make it. Listen that music. Yeah. Oh. Oh! Never mind. Never do it. That's it. T- That's it. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. th, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th, Jesus. thi. thi- thi- thi- that that that that th, Jesus. th, Jesus. th, Jesus. th, Jesus. th, Jesus. th, Jesus. th, Jesus. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that thi that do that. She's dead. Yep. Well, that
Starting point is 01:03:14 happens every damn time a cartwright falls in love. Yeah, never fall in love of the cartwright. Never. Or is it the death wish of all these women who are drawn to them knowing that they'll meet their maker by dating a cartwright? Kind of like women who date rock stars. Right. She was just say, well, that's the, they, they wanted to get into the game. Yeah, beautiful self-destruction. That was the most abrupt of all of the deaths, I think, of a character of a love interest on this show. It's amazing
Starting point is 01:03:52 that they didn't actually even nick Adam Cartwright, that the bullet just went right to her even though he was really standing in front of him. That's true. It will let's aim for women usually. I don't know if you knew that. A lot of times bullets are, because the the the the the the the the their their th, th, their th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the th. the th. the the th. ue. It will. Let's aim for women usually. I don't know if you knew that. It's that a lot of times bullets are, because women's skin is so soft and we're so irritating. Yeah, you got damn smart bullets. Yeah, so anyway, that's it, she's dead. And Adam sees where the shots came from,
Starting point is 01:04:19 and he fires back and he gives chase and old Dixie runs up and then old Dixie says something not helpful to a dying woman. He says, I knew this was bound to happen someday. If I was lying there dying, that I would not want to, I'd be mad. I would say, think of something else to say to me. I was amazed at how quickly a mob gathered. Oh, that's true. It seems like there was all sorts of people. You're right. They were they were they were they were th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. theeea. thea. to. to. to. theea. to. theea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theatrue. It seems like there was all sorts of people. You're right. They were there in like two seconds flat. A whole bunch of people. I guess there was always a mob at the ready kind of in that. And yet, as we'll later learn, none of them step forward as witnesses to the crime. They was close by but they didn't see it. I can't get past Adam's teeth and
Starting point is 01:05:06 he's starting to make me feel like one of them xenomorphs like that little things gonna pop out the front of them and come forward and you know what I'm talking about? Exactly. Yeah, Mutt has shared his screen and now we're all looking at a xenomorph. There's a xenomorph on the screen. Alien versus Predator those who have some teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth tee tee tee tee tee tee teeath teeth teeatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheathed teeath teeath tee tee tee tee teeth teeth tee the the the a xenomorph on the screen. Alien versus predator, those are some teeth that are reminisce, I think. Yeah, and he is both alien and sexual predator. He is. I just thought to myself, it's not so much the size of the teeth, it's that they're headed inward. All of them, they are. They're spokes. Yeah. They really are. I buy. You know I can't get over the scene that where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where the s. I the s. I the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the s. the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. T. T. T. T. T. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their spokes. They're yeah, yeah. They really are. I ban you. I can't get over the scene where she says I'm going to tell you something about myself and he says, come here. And then right before that there's a shot of him laying backward in the grass and he, I wonder when he was doing prep for that scene, it looked to me like what he had said to himself is I need to make a face that says I am beyond irresistible. I am just so irresistible. He's laying there with this irresistible face because why else after she said
Starting point is 01:06:13 well I need to tell you about myself would he have been able to just go come here. Yeah. She found him that irresistible because he was making that face. I guess so either that or he's just a lot stronger. It seems like that might have been the other choice. Sometimes that's a part of the romance is that you can't get away. Yep, yep, maybe. Well now Adam is accused of murder. People think he killed Sue Ellen and there's a mob that wants to hang him and now he's been he's been placed under arrest by Sheriff Jesse Sanders and the cart rights ride into town and the cart rights are want to bust them loose but there's too many sheriff's deputies it's not practical for them to do it and Ben goes and visits Adam in his cell and this is where we're
Starting point is 01:07:03 learn the real emotional complexity of this relationship from Adams point of view, because he says about Sue L and she said, she never loved me, she just liked the idea of being married to a cartwright. And then he says that he was just trying to teach her what love meant. I felt like that was a projection. Oh, wait a minute. What do you mean???? that he that he that he th.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Oh, wait a minute. What do you mean about that? That he was thought he was trying to teach her about love, but she's teaching him about love. And after all, he just wanted to be married to a cartwright. Yeah, he says, I don't think she knew what love meant. Did you? He says, this being a guy who didn't know how he felt about her but was willing to kill a man in the first theme. So that's some very interesting psychology that Carrie Wilbur has brought to the writing. Yes. So confusing. And what does it mean to be married to a cartwright? To die. It means you're dead. It means to die. She just wanted to die. Right. She wasn't in love with me. She just wanted to die about the midpoint in this episode. Yeah, death delivered through the mouth of a wagon-wheeled toothed man.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Okay, well that clears that up. Well now, let's see here, now we're in a saloon. And Dixie, drunk, good oldixie, is now telling everybody. He's making up a heck of a story. And no word of it is true. He's telling them all about how he'd unseen Adam Cartwright, murder. What's your name, Sue Ellen, in cold blood. And not a word of it is true.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And it seems like the whole mob at the saloon is about to get ready to go hang hang hang hang hang but then in walks Amelia and immediately changes the mood. Suddenly everybody goes, oh, Amelia's here. She's got her breakaway grieving clothes. Yeah, well, she goes right up to John Henry, who's sitting there and, uh, yeah, he points out, he says, is that your morning dress? It ain't no morning dress. This is, her sister just died like an hour ago and she's all dressed up for flirting. It's an evening dress. Nobody has cried for this woman who died by the way, not one person, not Adam, not the not the drunk guy who was holding her lifeless corpse. Right. Oh yes, we should we should say that Adam is taking this very, very well. He is taking it exceedingly well.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Water off a duck's back. Even the moment she was shot, there's no moment of, oh, he just, what? Oh, now I gotta chase somebody. Yeah, it's like as an actor and a character, he went, oh, an event happened. Yeah, yes. And there was no blood. That's because her corset is so the thia thia thiiiiiiiiiiiiiat so thiat so thiat is, there was no blood. That's because her course it's so tight it's a tourniquet. I bet that's right.
Starting point is 01:09:48 You've explained it beautifully. Well, so now, okay, oh yeah, oh so she tries, she figures John Henry did the killing and she tries to blackmail him and he accuses her right back. And now we've got a who done it to be either one of be either one of them two, actually. And now I don't know who it was did the killing. Maybe it was Old Dixie. Now we got three suspects. This is getting exciting. And let's say here, she suspects it was, and now Jesse is going to be a tussle.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Ben, thi's going. He has beat a confession out of old Dixie that he lied when he said Adam did the murder. And uh, and sheriff says, how'd you get him to tell you the truth? Ben says, I shook it out of them. That'll hold up in court. Exactly. Ben, it was torture. Ben tortured old Dixie. Until he told him the truth. And now, well, okay, that's it. Adam could be released, but Jesse says, I can't release him now because there's a mob out there looking for blood. There's been some mention of ropes. And so he won't let him out. And then this part confused me.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Old Sheriff Jesse Sanders goes in to see Adam in the cell. He gives Adam a gun. And he says, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, th. Okay, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, t. t. t. t. today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, thi, today in the cell. He gives Adam a gun and he says, okay, here's what I want you to do later on tonight. Pull this gun on my deputy. He'll give you the keys you get out of here and I'll give you eight hours to get away. Now, why is he doing that if he's just learned by way of old Dixie that Adam is innocent? I was confused. I don't know either. But that's the beauty and the mystery of Bonanza is that it's, don't question it. It's like questioning the will of God. Well, well, and just like with the will of God, eventually my confusion did get an answer. Because now in the next scene there's a mystery man. This was some good
Starting point is 01:11:42 directing by Adam Niby. He completely avoided showing us this guy's face. That could, it must have been hard. There's a man we never see his face and he's got a rifle and he tries to shoot Adam when Adam does the escape from jail the chair of Jesse told him to do later that night. But Adam doesn't get shot, a big light blows up instead but and Adam fails to shoot this mystery man and now Adam goes oh no what happens next he to oh yeah Adam's got a friend's after him past past the ass store past the ass store now the mystery man and we still don't see his face he is at Amelia's house now and Amelia it seems like tried to blackmail the mystery man making you think this is John Henry but she knows it's him and he him and he he and he he he he he he he he he and he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the the the the the the the the the the the he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the to the to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to the to to the the the the the the the the it seems like tried to blackmail the mystery man, making
Starting point is 01:12:25 you think this is John Henry, but she knows it's him, and then he goes to strangle her, and she sees it coming for a long time. Those hands are coming toward her for a lot. She goes, oh no, oh no. No, like she objects, but mostly she just mostly accepts the strangling. Yeah, that's like when my cat gets out and I go to chase her and she just freezes on the ground like I ain't gonna see her. But I could catch her just fine, she doesn't move. That was like that except for strangling. People don't know. That's one of the stages of suicide. Is that as you're about to do it, and your own life you go, oh, oh, no, th, that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that as you're about to do it and your own life you go, oh, oh, no, no, and then you walk into it. And that's part of the relief.
Starting point is 01:13:14 That's it, right. Yes. She might have been distracted by the fact that she wasn't sure of how she came into that room. I don't think we saw her coming into that room, did we? Oh, right. That's her sister's room, isn't it? Yeah, but she never would come in through the door. He told me that before. Yeah, she repelled down.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Yeah. She repelled down. Exactly. That we don't see that, though. She was hanging just a... That meant be why she wasn't worried about him, that she could see her rappel... She did a Mission Impossible... Whizzing down to the floor. She was hanging just a few inches from the ceiling for an hour before the mystery man came in and then she floated down.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah, so that would be, that would distract you after all that. Yeah, you're very prone to be strangled. Well, uh, okay, so now, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, she, she, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, to, she, she, to, she, she, to, she, she, to, to, th. She's, th. She was, th. She was, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that. Yeah, you're very prone to be strangled. Well, okay, so now Adam happened to be on his way to that same house and he busts in, I guess shortly after she's been strangled, but Mystery Man is gone and man, it sure looks like he doesn't kill Amelia, doesn't it? But Ben shows up too. I don't know why Ben went there. Who knows why anybody? Ben says, uh, Ben immediately doesn't suspect Adam of murdering anybody. But he says, what does he say? He says, oh, he tells him Sheriff Jesse is putting together a posse for you. Well now, Adam knows.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Hey, Sheriff Jesse told me I'd have eight hours start if I escaped. And now he's putting together a posse for me? Something ain't right. He says, tell that sheriff sheriff, Sheriff, that sheriff, that sheriff, that sheriff,, tell that sheriff, I'm gonna meet him at his place. Which Ben does. Ben tells Sheriff Sanders, Adam, I saw Adam, he says he'll meet you at his place. I guess he's gonna turn himself in or whatever. And then I'm gonna play you this scene. The sheriff shows up at his own place and as he's walking in the door he passes by the mystery man's jacket. So if you had any doubts up to that point you know now. Sheriff Jesse Sanders
Starting point is 01:15:09 is the mystery man that doesn't tried to shoot Adam and strangled Amelia. And Adam is sitting there behind the desk and we know but Sheriff Sanders does not that he has a gun. I'm gonna share my screen with you and this is some remarkable shooting on the part of Adam Cart right here. He's here. Well I guess I gave it away. Damn it. Now I did things in the wrong order. Here can you see my screen? Yeah. All right here it is. You know it been neither if I've been killed when I busted out of your jail. That's where you made a mistake, Jesse, your first one. You bust in jail, convinced of orders you was a killer all right. What was my second mistake? Getting up a posse, after you promised me eight clear hours. And I began to look as
Starting point is 01:15:58 though you wanted me dead awfully bad. Don't try it, Jesse. Wow, wow. How do you do that? He's got his gun underneath the desk and somehow from that position, he's such a good shootman that he ends up shooting the sheriff in the heart. Really, he didn't have the gun, he had the gun in the hanky, I thought. I thought it was in the hanky. I thought so too, but then I saw at that time and it looks like it's under the desk. Oh, I thought the gun is in his left hand, under the desk. Can you put that up again? Let's fact check thi. I'm pretty sure it was it it it it Yeah it is a ladies derringer so it probably should be in the hanky. Well okay let's see if make that screen a little bigger
Starting point is 01:16:50 too to hit that maximi. Oh dang it look I have way too far I've rewound it. I am selling gun hankies as well. Oh you sell gun hankies on your side? Oh to all the for all, all models for AK-47. Oh, wow. That's a big, thank you. I find you here. Listen, we're watching more of the scene than I cared to you. Let's see if I'm moving forward a bit. Okay, now I see the hanky. You know, I've been needed but to his right hand, he's got a hand. He's a gun hankie. That, that, the gun, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, he, he, he's got. That, he, he, he, he's th. That, th. That's the the th. That, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, he. That, I. He. That, I. That, I. th. th. He. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the his left hand down there? Or is that the hardware of the drawer?
Starting point is 01:17:26 Oh. My second mistake. Getting up a posse? I don't think it is in the hanky. He's not pointing at him. Well, then why is he holding the hanky? Because he's a comfort hand. It's a hanky.
Starting point is 01:17:37 It's a hankhy hank for a hank for a hank for a hank for a hank for a hank for a hank for a, we watched that in the hanky. You know, he shot from his left hand, and it's in his left hand. The gun. My second mistake. Yeah. When he puts it down. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, I got it.
Starting point is 01:17:54 We're going to watch this as many times as we need to tell everybody agrees with me. Don't try it. It. the gun... Oh, I got it. He shoots through the desk. You can see the hole in the desk. He shot clear through the desk. But the gun hanky is necessary because it provides a... A distraction. A distraction.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Oh, that's what is the sheriff thinks. What is he doing with that hanky? Is he a da- that hanky and yeah, the sheriff is so distracted by the hanky. Yeah, he's sitting there thinking of... Teddy doesn't notice the gun. He's a regular old Popin' Jay, he ain't gonna shoot me, he's got a hanky. Bam, I'm dead. Sometimes when somebody has a piece of Kleenex or a hanky, all I can think about is how gross it is. Oh, it's full of snutt moment, wondering where the gun is. I've got this micro fiber glass cleaning thing and when I wave it here like this, does that make you feel like you're not going to get shot?
Starting point is 01:18:51 I think wipe it on your sleeve. Why, you're such a show-off. Well, oh, you know what it is? I'll tell you what it is. That Hankey belonged to Sue Ellen Terry. And when Adam Cartwright goes into Sheriff Jesse's house, he sees that Sheriff Jesse is in possession of a Hankey of Sue Ellen's, and that's an important piece of information to him. And so he's holding it there like, well, look who's got a hanky from Sue Ellen. Oh, he's a weird collector. But then we find out from the little speech that the sheriff gives that those, those, those, those those those those th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho, tho-toes tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th th th th th th th th th th th the, the, the, the, the, the, the the theeeeeeeeeeean, telleean, telleeeeaa telleeeeeeea, theeeeeeee, the, the, takes a weird collector. But then we find out from the little speech that
Starting point is 01:19:25 the sheriff gives that those are false conclusions. What do you mean? The sheriff gives a speech about how he has been stalking Sue Ellen. You forgetting that speech? No no no. Yeah that's right. So now the sheriff has been fatally shot and he falls down. And luckily that same same mob that rushed up to Sue L and Terry the moment after she was shot also rushes into this room and it's real good that there was people there because the sheriff is inspired to, in his dying moment, confess to all of his crimes, which really it looked like Adam had committed. And he confesses that it was him that shot Sue L and Terry, although he didn't mean to, he was trying to shoot Adam, right?
Starting point is 01:20:10 He says about how he used to watch her, he used to sit outside her house and watch her. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. He used to give him, she gave him a pretty hat hat and then she'd give it to him. So I guess he was a cross dresser. Uh-huh. Yeah. He's like a- He was such an outsider.
Starting point is 01:20:30 He had nothing ahead of him but a life of crime. He's a Wild West proto-Edgean. Who's that? Ed Dean? He's that fellow that killed a woman or man, made lampshade and a suit out of skin, and then they based the leather face and silenced the lambs, Buffalo Bill off him and a psycho. He's a real, real complicated fellow, a hell of a guy. Fantastic. Yeah, sinner. Yeah, I have a lamp here that's made a human skin. No shit. Yeah, sure do. Well, that's uh, and that's how that episode ends. Everything is back to normal in the lives of our heroes
Starting point is 01:21:08 the cart rights and the love interest body count now is up to eight here on episode 14. If you count Ben's three wives and all the other women that have died on this show in only 14 episodes. And on, I'm very sad to say that after this episode, we only have 417 left to go. Oh, God. Good Lord. That's so sad. They shouldn't have had a skull on that map
Starting point is 01:21:35 when they burned it, shouldn't they? Yeah, a warning. You are, you will die. Well, okay, any other thoughts or reflections or noticing from this episode? Anybody had? I was interested in the color of shirt that Adam was wearing. I thought that was an unusual choice for an old west, burnt orange. Oh, a burnt orange shirt. Yeah, I thought,
Starting point is 01:22:01 there's some point where I thought, hey, he's dressed like the monkeys used to dress. You remember the monkeys? Yeah, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he does he he he he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does this this this this this this this this this this. Oh, this. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, thoes. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, uh th. Oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, there's some point where I thought, hey, he's dressed like the monkeys used to dress. You remember the monkeys? Yeah, he does. This must have been the 1860s. Yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah. I'm getting into the women's fashion undergarment business as a result of this episodes. It's going to be like Spanks, but not. It's a Christian-based undergarment company. So I'm selling it's called Straps. And it's just rope. I just sell you lengths of rope and you bind your body in these ropes.
Starting point is 01:22:38 And you can see it. You don't see panty lines anymore. You see layers and layers of rope. You're being tied in. You call it strops and people can find that on your website. On lots starters.com. And that's also really useful if you want to hold the woman upside down as we've spoke up earlier. Like a bat. Those ropes will be useful that way. Call me down. I'm PMSing.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Hold me by the lakes like a chicken. Hey, Merrill, there's one last thing I want to ask you about in your book. There's a moment in the book where your mother accuses you of being a Frankenstein monster. Yeah. That really ama that really amaze me because I'm not supposed to talk about monsters on this show they don't want me to but I am a person who is plagued by vampires and mummies and Frankenstein's and every once a while you'll see somebody and that's a Frankenstein you have to deal with them but why did
Starting point is 01:23:36 your mother say that to you? What was that about? You know I didn't realize that at the time? You know I didn't thi th didn't realize th didn't realize th didn't realize th didn't realize th. I didn't realize th. I didn't realize thi th. I didn't realize thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that thi that that thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the th. th. th. th. I didn't realize th. I didn't realize thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. I the the toe. I the. I thi. I the. I thi that's that's the time that wasn't really a very nice thing for her to say to me you know right at the time it didn't at the time you thought well at least I'm getting some attention yeah that's exactly what I thought pretty good was it a reaction to your makeup I forget now why did she say it was reaction to her lack of metaphors I think would be one thing and then just that she didn't really care for my behavior and the behavior and the behavior and the behavior and the behavior and the behavior and the the the the the the th and th and th and th and th and th th th th th and th and th. and th. and th. And th. And th. And th. And thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at th. th. th. At thi thi thi didn't didn't didn't didn't thi didn't thi didn't didn't thi didn't thi thi thi didn't didn't didn't thi thi thi didn't didn't thi didn't thi thi thi think, would be one thing. And then just that she didn't really care for my behavior. And so it was Frankenstein-like, I think. You know, now that you're asking me that question, I haven't fully analyzed why she thought I was made of the parts of other dead people.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Yeah, but just too- Even though she had given birth to me herself. And so, that was a, hmm, you know, I'm gonna have to give that some real thought. But just to be clear, you are not a Frankenstein. You know, now I'm not clear about it. Wait a minute. Oh, no. Look, just a little word of advice, Merrill. I wouldn't to to to to to to to thu thu thu thu thu thu thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, the thu, thu, thi, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thean, threatea.a.a. thean, thean, threat. thea. thean, thi. thi. thi. th no. Look just a little word of advice, Merrill. I wouldn't tell Dalton you as Frankestine. He's liable to do something rash
Starting point is 01:24:48 Frankestine. You got you got to chase me into the sea with a lighted torch. So Oh, it's the sea. It's a good thing. I didn't live in Virginia City. There have been mobs following me around day and night. For sure. Those mobs lob problem in that city, didn't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th to to th to thi to thi to thi to to thi to thi to thi thi to thi thi thi, didn't they? They really did. Yes, they did. And the sheriff had no ability to control them. At some point he says, I can't do anything in this town without shooting voters or something like that. That's what he said. He said, it's harder and harder to get elected without killing voters, which seemed like a very contemporary thing to say. True. It's been very hard for our ex-president to get elected without killing voters. He had to kill an enormous number of voters. When you say ex-president, you're talking about Obama?
Starting point is 01:25:34 I don't understand. Yeah. Donald Trump, it's very, it's two thing, who knows who's going to win this election. There's no way of telling as of this date, November 11th, 2020 could go either way. Yeah, it's eight days past election date. No way to tell. No way to tell. All right, folks, well on that note, Amy, anything? Finally, the plug for you, got some to plug? anymore for my gatherings because they know they should bring a credit card.
Starting point is 01:26:05 But, you know, I'm really interested in this mob idea and that maybe just, you know, people getting together in mobs. For angry purposes could also be my new customer. Hey, that, oh yeah, okay, sure. You bring your products to an angry mob. I think that's a great idea. Maybe you could, you could re-conceive of the idea of mobs as being happier, a happier kind of mob. A happy mob. Well, in anger can be very joyful,
Starting point is 01:26:43 especially if it's righteous. Yeah, or just a perfectly content mob. A mob that's, you know, they don't have to be so happy either. Just kind of, this is a mob that doesn't feel strongly, they're fine. They're okay. A blase mob. The blase mob. But they want to make a strong decision all as one.
Starting point is 01:27:02 To buy some products. And Merrill, your book is out now. People can get it. Where can people get your book? They can get my book at where all books are sold. I have right. Maybe you can get a whole mob to just shrug. Look at here.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Hey, hey, hey, But instead of pitchforks and torches, it would be the whole mob going, uh, You know why I called it We Saw Senery? Why? Because I read that in one of my diaries, that was how I described anything at the age of 11 that wasn't me. Oh, scenery? Yeah, I just said we were on a family vacation. We saw scenery. You know, that was what you called that? My descriptive version of everything that was going by outside of me. Scenery. We saw, see, and you drew the pictures in here.
Starting point is 01:27:51 This is Illustrated Diaries with Commentary, and you drew all the pictures and wrote all them words. That's right. Man, it's wonderful. Imagine how much work. It does seem like a lot of work. It took me a lot of years, yeah. My book, I have a book called You Must Buy Your Wife, at least as much jewelry as you buy your horse and other poems and observations, humorous and otherwise from a life on the range. And it's a lot of the pages are blank. So, it's one way. For notes and recipes and stuff. A lot of books have that in there so that you can... You guys are all so impressive if it ain't books, it's multi-level marketing.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I'm up here in Lake Tahoe looking at pine cones and just throwing them like they was grenades. Well, that ain't easy either, Mutt and Amy as usual. Okay. Hard to find pine cones. All right folks. Well, that's our show. Thanks so much for listening. Thank you to Merrill Marco for being here in Mutt and Amy as usual. And that's another episode of Bananza in the books. See you next time. Bananas for Bananzas, brought to you by Andy Daly, with Maria Bamford and Matt Gorley, theme song by Matt Gorley, with the Journey, which in this case are Mark McConnville, Daniel Murchikoff, and Wade Ryan. Special thanks to our gang on the ground, Josh Richmond, and Shannon Locke. Bananas for Bananza is produced by Ryan Connor and Chris Beck.
Starting point is 01:29:24 We'll see you next time. and Matt Gorley, and executive produced by Colin Anderson and Chris Beck. We'll see you next time.

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