Boonta Vista - EPISODE 100: The One Hundredth Episode

Episode Date: May 28, 2019

Andrew, Lucy and a portion of Ben look at the worst takes to come out of the first week of post-election coverage. Here's to a hundred episodes more, at which point we can once more wheel out the Hund...red Episodes Gong. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2DBCXGA Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Povisa. I am Andrew, joined by my friends Ben and Lucy. Hi. And it's episode 100! Woo! I don't know if that is not into it. It's the episode 100 gong. I'm putting it back in the cupboard. Never to be wheeled out again because it's very specific purpose. No, you said it's the episode 100 gong. It's not the every 100 episode gog.
Starting point is 00:01:01 It's the centennial gong. Every 100 episodes. I wheel out this thing that's taking up a full cupboard in a spare room in my house. My wife's like, why can't we get rid of this thing? I'm like, well, in another 99 episodes, you'll see. Andrew, it's me or the gong. In fairness, my wife has many more large objects occupying too much of the house than I do. She's a full-sized loom. Women be loom-in'. Women be weaven.
Starting point is 00:01:37 They be weaven. I know a lot of people with looms, and they're all women. I'm not saying that all women love looms. I'm saying that all of the people I know that love looms are women. Can't argue with it. All three of them. That's science. That's a good sample number.
Starting point is 00:01:57 What sort of sized looms are you talking about though? Looms where you can't put them in a cupboard. I'll tell you that? Looms where you can't put them in a cupboard I'll tell you that much. You can't have needed dedicated loom. One's with all the foot pedals and stuff? I don't really have the terminology to describe these looms to you. They've got nails on them. You twist stuff around the nails and then you thread those. Elners got a four shaft floor loom which has like a whole thing. It's got like a big rack that you push back and forth. The spool that you like throw through along the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You know operate multiple pedals and stuff. It's pretty cool. That's how you get the, that's how you get like the woven patterns in things, there's different combinations of the pedals being up and down. Kick an off episode 100 with loom chat. Loom talk. Anyway, folks, we know that you came here for the hottest in a, in a hootest loom takes. I just want to point out that if you look at the lowercase word loom and then you stretch the o's into a slightly more oblate, no the other one, a lipsoid kind of shape, you do in fact, you've got the number 100 in there. So it all works out.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness well I don't even know what to say to that. Folks we're all still a little dejected about the state of Australian politics at the moment I believe I think that's fair assessment. Dejected. Hmm. Downcast. Down-trodden. Very downtrodden. A bunch of mopey bitches over here. So, you know, what else can we do, but retreat to the landscape of Australia's dumb media for just the hottest of takes. Hottest of takes that have come out post-election.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We have had all sorts of stuff like Chris Kenny crying on Sky News. That was pretty good. Oh we we didn't chat about how how that one nation billboard truck got set on fire. Oh yeah, incredible stuff. Very good. So Pauline Hanson posted about that and was like see what the left does when they disagree with your ideas. And then the police investigated and said yeah someone dropped a cigarette in the truck and set it on fire. So they've said it is not suspicious. There is no foul play suspected. This led to newly returned Senator Malcolm Roberts,
Starting point is 00:04:51 favorite little... Crackpot. Climate change denying gnome. That led to him going on Sky News and declaring that that was the fault of lefties because they've banned smoking everywhere, which meant that their driver had to hide inside the truck smoking a cigarette which is what caused the fight. Was that real? Because the screenshot that that was posted with was an appearance of him from December last year. Oh oh have I been fake news again? I think you might have been fake name. A little joke a little joke. A little joke. I couldn't decide if a joke and jape. Joping around. He was joping around. I think you might have just
Starting point is 00:05:30 been goofed. You've been joped off, Andrew. Oh no. Same. I've been tricked by Batman's nemesis, the jopper. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh, fake news gets me again. But we did have some real news, some real hard-hitting news. We had a piece in the Sydney Morning Herald that was brought to us by AC Griffiths. Now I know what you're all turning and saying to each other. The AC Griffiths? The AC Griffith. Who The AC Griffith. The? The? Who I cannot find any other online presence.
Starting point is 00:06:10 You'll trace over in the world. You do get the fun glamour shots that she provided herself to the paper. Do we think this is real? Like a real person? Do we think that this is a real person? Yeah, I feel like, I think a lot of people are saying this seems like it was written by a Sydney Morning Herald Rider and just attributed to a mysterious person named AC Griffith. I'm more willing to believe that just the sheer incompetence and desperation for traffic
Starting point is 00:06:44 of a former Fairfax opinion editor, getting someone with the most milk-toast opinion in the world to write a dumb article is more likely than someone at the sitting morning herald being like, we're going to false flag this bitch. True. It's extremely strange. It does have a whole lot of people asking questions, especially considering the other piece that we will come to, which was written in response to this piece. But AC Griffith says, it blessed us with a very, very smart column entitled, I'm young, I voted liberal, and I am not a bigot.
Starting point is 00:07:19 My I am not a bigot t-shirt is raising a lot of questions that are already answered by my tea shirt. A.C. Griffith says, on Sunday morning, many Australians found themselves staring into their morning coffee, wondering at what point the Labour Party lost the unloosable election. Betting agencies had paid in favor of a labor win days in advance. Even the liberal leader called the election win a miracle. I am a young, female, Victorian inner city dweller, but I made the decision to give my vote to the Liberal Party, as I have since the 2013 election, the first time I voted. However, the elation I experienced on Sunday morning over the
Starting point is 00:07:58 liberal win was short-lived. Why would you be elated over that? I know. Imagine being like, yeah, they can get back in and enact their policies of not doing anything specific? Let's celebrate all those policies of just not doing anything about anything. Woo! Elated, jubilant. According to social media, I am scared, uneducated, a bigot, should be ashamed, have condemned the planet to burn, pathetic, not a feminist, probably hate gays, hate minorities, and probably want to stop women from having access to abortions. I, just this is such a small quibibble but the way that they have constructed that list you know that the thing at the start of list is meant to be able to
Starting point is 00:08:51 append to every item in the list right she's like yeah I am I am probably hate gays. I love that I am. The next line is also fantastic but it it's not even, it's not even I am, comma, probably hate gays. The list starts with I. And then the next item is, am scared, which means that these items should read us. I uneducated, I should be ashamed. I have condemned the plan to burn. I am pathetic. That's the name of the episode right there. I not a firmness. It starts to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to turn to turn to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thenenen.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.combeen.combeen.combeen.combeen.combeen.combeen.combeen.com.com.com.com.com. I tombeen. the. the. the the name of the episode right there. I come a pathetic.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I not affirminous. It starts to turn into like caveman style. That's an asymmetrical construction. Hmm. Gotta destroy it. Terrible stuff. Um, wandering around the streets of Melbourne on this unseasonably warm Sunday. Can we pause on that? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:09:44 After just... I haven't condemned the planet to burn, like is this, is this satirical? Like immediately saying unseasonably warm Sunday. I went out on an uncommon 38 degree, winter's day. I was walking outside during climate change. All of a sudden... I felt many negative emotions but no regret about the ballot I cast. Instead, I was sad that many people saw liberal voters as a negative influence on this country. Huh.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It's weird. It's so weird. Weird that people would think about stagnating wagers and divisive policy and, you know, like leaders of the country making, using their platform to say things like, it's okay to be a bigot and to vote for motions like, it's okay to be white. Weird that people would think that that's a negative influence. I would like our nation to take a collective deep breath and hear me out, comma, please. I would like to remind Australians of policies and laws that the right, in scare quotes, as though they're not actually right-wing, I guess, have enacted.
Starting point is 00:11:01 In hope it might quell the fear experienced in the present. The political triumphs listed below are not in order of importance or year, but rather a reflection of how progressive the Australian Conservative political party has been and can be. Hmm. Even, even just trying to cast the literally the Conservative Party as. Just how progressive they can be. So she starts off with, the United Australia Party under Herbert Payne made voting compulsory.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Australia is among only a handful of nations where voting is mandatory. So, like, how long ago are we talking here? For starters, we're talking about before it was even the Liberal Party. It was the United Australia Party, yeah. So Clive Palmer's United Australia Party made voting compulsory. We're talking about about like 1930-ish here. So that's a nice recent achievement of the
Starting point is 00:12:15 liberal party. This to me is like absolutely into the territory of like you know you know like Danesh de Souser in the states where he's always like, I think you'll find that the Democrats are the ones who wanted slavery? Yeah, it's the KKK was started by the Democrats argument. Yeah, yeah, and it's like that's cool and everything but which one still has all the KKK members? Which one's still doing all the open racism, closing the porters? And the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the the tho, tho, thoomk, tho, the tho, like, the the the the the the, the, the the the the, the, the, the the, the, the the the the the the, the, the the, the the, the, the the the, the, the, they-isk, the, the, the, is is is the, is they-sk, is the, is tho, is they-sk, is they-sk, theyk, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, theyk, theyk, theyk, theyk, theyk, the open racism, the closing the borders, and the multiculturalism is bad, and all that's true? This article doesn't get any better either. It really doesn't.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Under the Menzies administration in 1962, voting rights were extended to indigenous Australians. Granted, this was horribly late, but that was an indictment on the nation, not the conservative party. I love to vote for administrations that did something good before my mother was born, you know? Yeah, it's just so far from having anything to do with anything, like... Oh, but I'm sure she mentioned some modern policy reasons at the end of the article. She absolutely would. He certainly wouldn't vote only on an old historical record. Let's see, Harold Holt deserves a notable mention. In 1967 he held a
Starting point is 00:13:39 referendum on the right for Indigenous Australians to be counted in the census. The Liberal Party was also the first political party to have an indigenous person in parliament. Neville Bonner joined the Senate and served in the Liberal Party for 12 years. I like the way that, like, isn't it the right that hates the idea of like, you know, identity politics, identity politics and like, you know, token representatives of communities and stuff like that. Instead here you've got, oh yeah, we've like absolutely dogged this community for decades, but we had one in there for 12 years.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Mm-hmm. It's just like they passed gay marriage, you know? Oh yeah, well, are we getting to that? Malcolm Fraser established the SBS accepted Vietnamese refugees after the war and strongly opposed apartheid. Now let's just pause on that one for a second because that would be that would be the SBS that this government cut funding to. It's constantly cutting funding to and desperately would like to privatize who makes them run commercials on the network. All that kind of stuff. Won't accept many refugees. Yep, won't accept refugees from anywhere. I mean we are now at a point where we're seeing all of these news reports come out about people who are
Starting point is 00:15:04 migrants to Australia who have been awaiting their permanent citizenship. And now, they're thate, and now, they're thu-e-all their, their, their, their, their, their thu-up, thu-up, thu-up thu-up thu-up thu-up thu-up, thu-up, thu-up, thu-up, thu-up, thi-up, thu-cu-cume-up, thi-thelling theals their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thue commercials thui thuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-comi-comui-comui-comui-cumeaueaueaueckeatueateate. commercial to to to theauea. commercial thea. commercial, the-cume- people who are migrants to Australia who have been awaiting their permanent citizenship and now just on the eve of getting their permanent citizenship they have had a son with cystic fibrosis and so now they've been told that they're all going to be deported back to Ireland because their son will be too much of a drain on the health care system. Oh, cool. So not even just refugees, like kids who have lived here their whole lives born with a disability
Starting point is 00:15:36 who are told, hmm, we'd rather not look after you and your kind, so what we'll do is instead deport you to a country you've never been in before and send your parents back to where they were from decades ago. Oh and strongly opposed apartheid state in Israel and insisting on Scott Morrison was like floating the idea of moving the Australian embassy to Jerusalem, wasn't he? Yeah, I heard that. Trying to follow the Trump thing?
Starting point is 00:16:12 I love to list the reasons that I voted for a party that's just blatantly the opposite of what the party stands for now. Yeah, just an example of things things that were done decades and decades ago. This may be little known but John Gorton introduced a parliamentary motion from the opposition supporting the legalization of same gender sexual relations like... Cool. I love this just like one one bill from one bill. Now and here we are Malcolm Turnbull is leader of the Liberal Party passed laws legalizing gay marriage. Get fucked. Many will say there was an issue with the process.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But as it stands the right side of government passed the bill on same-sex marriage, not the left. Not how government works. I bet you took so fucking much. I knew they would do this. If you could cherry-pick the fact that it was fucking John Howard that actually made it specifically so that gay marriage wasn't legal in Australia when the word was ambiguous in the Marriage Act. Yep and also that the man who is currently Prime Minister took part of this postal survey and then
Starting point is 00:17:34 abstained from voting after his own electorate cast votes saying that they wanted the motion supported in Parliament. He chose to just not cast a vote instead. Along with Tony Abbott and a whole bunch of other people. So, you know, they're, they're the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their their, their, they their, they their, they their, their, their, their their, their, th. Yep, and th. Yep, and th. Yep, and th. Yep, and their, and their, and their their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. Yeah, the. Yeah, theateate. Yeah, theate. Yeah, uh, theate. Yeah, uh, uh, th. Yeah, uh, th. Yeah, uh, th. Yeah, uh, th. Yeah, yeah, th. He chose to just not cast a vote instead, along with Tony Abbott and a whole bunch of other people. So, you know, they're really interested in democracy in representing their constituents, except for when it comes to the gays getting married. I don't, I don't, I, just the level of like, complete dishonesty it takes to position that as, oh, this was done by them, you know, as opposed to they were just forced kicking and screaming
Starting point is 00:18:16 down every channel they could take to possibly avoid doing it. And then a whole bunch of them just didn't even participate in the final act of getting it across the line. And they still want to take credit for it like the fucking, like th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, oh, oh, th, oh, oh, th, oh, oh, oh, this, oh, oh, this, this, oh, this, oh, this, oh, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, oh, oh, oh, oh, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th, this, th, this, th, th, th, th, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, then a whole bunch of them just didn't even participate in the final act of getting it across the line and they still want to take credit for it like they're fucking civil rights warriors. Just pathetic. And like I don't even like whether this article makes sense or not doesn't really matter. Why does it exist? What is the point of it? Like... To just make someone feel better about the fact that their friends are like, why did you vote for people that fucking hate us all? If my friends were like, hey man, you suck. My first thing wouldn't be like, oh, wait one second.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I'm composing an email so that the opinion editor of the Sydney Morning Herald and you'll all hear about this. It's fucking just so ridiculous. Just this idea that these people need this, like, I mean, obviously the fundamental problem with this piece is that there is absolutely no mention of any reason for supporting this government. Not one. Absolutely not even one. Not even really recent.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Not even since Tony Abbott was elected. So continuing on, let's just see if she comes up with anything here. The Australian right, she's got scare quotes around right and left throughout this entire piece. This is the sort of people whose engagement with politics makes them believe that there's no such thing as like positions. Yeah. Oh, the right. Like that's real. It's all the same man. They all do the same stuff, you know? The Australian right has passed nation-changing laws that were not part of its mandate as a conservative party. It did so because the Liberal and National Coalition understands what is right for Australia.
Starting point is 00:20:14 On countless occasions, the right of Australia has followed a moral compass and passed legislation more progressive than the left in many other countries. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? What? Just like more progressive than the left in a different country? Is that? Jesus Christ. Oh. There's an intelligent article. To every Greens or Labor or other minor party supporter who feel saddened or disenfranchised by the election on Saturday, these facts are for you. We who voted for the coalition did not vote out of fear, nor naivety, bigotry, or anger. Rather, we voted with our hearts for a party that will do the right thing on social issues, but which can also lead a country through a challenging time economically. Fuck off. the right thing on social issues, but which can also lead a country through a challenging time economically. Fuck off!
Starting point is 00:21:09 Source for either of these claims. There's just nothing. Labor supporters, I'm sorry you were left blindsided and heartbroken. In time, you will heal. And I am sure rally around your new leader. But for now, gain heart from these facts because the members of the coalition are not monsters. Rather, they are Australia's preference for a third term. A.C. Griffiths is some fucking lady who votes in.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Some lady. Like, so... In time, you will heal, Andrew. Jesus Christ. And like, yeah, just rattling off things that governments of which there are like no remaining members of decades past did in completely unrelated times, in ways that relate in no way, shape, or form to the current ideological make-up and agenda of the Liberal Party, and then not naming anything that the current version
Starting point is 00:22:14 of the Liberal National Coalition does that you support. Like, imagine writing a whole fucking column about why you voted for the liberals that doesn't actually make mention of anything to do with the liberals that doesn't actually make mention of anything to do with the election that you just voted in. Not even not even like getting into specific policies even if you just wanted to say here's things that labor were proposing that I think were bad but they can't even name a single fucking thing. Now I think it is perfectly ordinary to choose your vote based on which party 100 years ago
Starting point is 00:22:50 made it legal for Irish travelers to go into milk bars. It's just so completely irrelevant. And like it would be, it might be different if, if like your party had a long and storied history of being the front runner on a specific kind of issue and they were still pushing that agenda today, that would be something that you could actually draw a through line from and say, hey, here's the thing that we've always been about and we're still doing it today, and we're still going strong. But it's just like here are these completely unrelated arbitrary facts from fucking 1930 and that's why I
Starting point is 00:23:31 voted for the liberals. Just incredibly frustrating stuff. This answers a lot of my questions about why people vote liberal. Yeah because that's my team. That's my team that I f-fool. That's my team I always vote liberal. That's my team that I fucking picked. It's my team. I always vote liberal. That's my team that my parents picked for me. My parents always voted like this and they told me it's because liberals are good at the economy and also I don't give a fuck about anything or pay attention to anything. Then everybody yelled at me for voting them so I was forced to open up their their their their their their their their. their. to their. to to to their. to to their. to their. their. to vote. to vote. to vote. to vote. to vote. to be. to be. to be. to be. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, te. And, te. And, te. And, te. And, te. And, te. And, for voting for them, so I was forced to open up their Wikipedia page. Why are all my friends mad at me? It's an extremely, extremely, I had to do a 400-word essay, so I opened up the Wikipedia
Starting point is 00:24:16 page of the Liberal Party. Real grade 6 essay on the Liberal Party. Incredibly. Incredibly. The AC Griffiths? The AC Griffith. Sure that they can't will out anyone more high profile than that. Well, you'd think that and you'd be a fool. You'd be a blithering fool. And I'll tell you why. Because the Sydney Morning Herald, in response to this piece, the Richard published itself,
Starting point is 00:24:44 they said, hey, hey,it published itself, they said, Hey, we really need to hear more of these important voices, and that's why we're going to publish an article titled, A retort to my friend who wrote, I'm young and I voted liberal by M. Gibson, who I believe we're going to all only assume is famous anti-semi, Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson. Oh my God. All right, so if we're ready for it to get dumber, I am writing in response to my friend, the AC Griffiths, an article, which appeared under the headline, I'm young, I voted liberal, and I am not a bigot.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I too am young, I voted Labour. Griffiths wrote her article after I expressed my dismay at her promoting a party whose members, not all but many, actively campaigned against same-sex marriage and turned LGBTIQ relationships into a topic for national debate. Not all but many is pretty generous there, I think. It's like Tim Wilson? Who else? Who else?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Maybe one or two other people? As her friend, and as a lesbian, I was hurt that young voters could so readily forget or ignore the experience of myself and others during that time. To Griffiths, I know you are not a bigot, but I believe you are misguided. Here is basically the entire cut and thrust of the article, which is, you have told me, Nature Corner, here a beautiful bird. Oh that's here I don't know what it is. A Hawaiian bird. That's Lucy. That's me. Hey! Hey! Oh. Yeah so the entire cut and thrust of this thing is my friend voted for the wrong
Starting point is 00:26:43 party that very actively promotes and enables bigotry, does dog whistling, is anti-immigration all that sort of stuff, but it's not her fault that she voted for them. To others I was genuinely interested to find out why a young person would vote liberal, given how out of touch I regard the party as being with young people. By the reader reaction to Griffith's article, many others were interested too. Sadly on my reading, Griffith supplied a selective and ill-researched defense of the Liberal Party's social values. Her cheering for the Liberal Party reminded me of how sports fans rally to their teams.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And it's a little like that over here, isn't it? And like a sports fan reliving long past glories, Griffiths reaches back in history and cherry picks details of reforms introduced by the conservative side of politics over the decades to suggest that the liberals are a socially progressive force. But just how socially progressive is the modern liberal party when it chooses to put Australians through a divisive debate and vote on whether or not every citizen should be entitled to marry the person they love. Griffith's article lack detail on current liberal policies that might have attracted her vote, and our mission readers have since noticed. I can tell you what policies I voted for, policies to bolster the nation's social,
Starting point is 00:27:59 economic and environmental well-being. I voted for funding for hospitals, for hib-s, and for labor stance on humanitarian issues, immigration and renewable energy. I don't know about their immigration position. I don't know about that one. And here's the part that doesn't make any sense to me at all. I do not consider my friend culpable for her liberal vote or for the parties win. What? What? Mmm. Who is then? It's not the people who voted, it's not the people who voted for the party who are responsible for them being in power.
Starting point is 00:28:35 It's, um, help me out here. Yerks. It's yurks from anamorphs. You know the little worms, they get in your ear and they control your brain? Okay. It's the it's yurks from animorphs. You know, the little worms, they get in your ear and they control your brain. Okay. It's there. It's yurks. I do not consider my friend culpable for her liberal vote or for the party's win,
Starting point is 00:28:54 but I hope she and other young voters take this as an opportunity to hear what was important to their peers in this election. Anger directed at voters of different persuasions will do nothing to move us forward from team allegiances. We need passionate, young political ambition to be heard. M. Gibson is also some lady. So I just, to me, this perfectly encapsulates this idea of people who are completely safe and sheltered in their lives. None of this shit is having an impact on them either way. I mean, like, you know, you know, obviously, you know, people who are completely safe and sheltered in their lives. None of this shit is having an impact on them either way. I mean, like, you know, obviously I sympathize with this woman
Starting point is 00:29:32 and what she had to go through during the entire public debate about same-sex marriage in this country. It was fucked up. But it's absolutely bizarre to be like, and I don't hold the supporters of that party and people who voted for them responsible for that in any way? Like, that's, that's how they get there to be able to do it. How do you not say to somebody you are... Also just no explanation of why, no reason as to why her friend isn't culpable for her own vote. Well she believes she is just misguided. I mean, she was guided enough to write a fucking piece about it for a newspaper. Apparently she felt passionate enough and offended enough at being lumped in with the other fucking people who voted the same way
Starting point is 00:30:26 as she did to write a piece about it and submit it to the newspaper. But she's not culpable for her vote, I guess. I'm going to need AC Griffiths to write it a response. Do you know, this isn't done. I did see a lot of people online saying like, so is this, is the opinion page of this paper just going to be this friendship group? All just weighing in on various issues now. As a friend to both of these ladies, I want to write a piece, man. Just... State of the discourse.
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's going well, obviously. And just... Like I said, I mean, you know, again, I absolutely sympathize with anybody who, you know, had to deal with everything during the same-sex marriage debate, but it's also like, yeah, if that's the only kind of way in which this government and its policies have affected someone then I would say that they are probably relatively secure in the rest of their life whereas if that's the only thing that you can sort of think of to say like hey this stuff actually has like a fucked-up effect on people's lives. Yeah how about immigration policy and welfare and all of those ways in which the liberal party is really messing with people.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Now because this is apparently entirely what our media is composed of now, I have another piece for you here. You don't. This one, this one, I think this one made me much madder than the other ones. So this one is the PM was talking about my migrant parents when he spoke about the quiet Australians by Nicole McInnes. Quiet Australians can go fuck themselves. Some other lady. On Saturday nights, newly re-elected Prime Minister Scott Morrison said,
Starting point is 00:32:30 the quiet Australians had won a great victory. It has been those Australians who have worked hard every day, he said. For the first time in my life, I nearly cried at an Australian politician's speech. You're a loser. Imagine crying, imagine crying at the guy politician's speech. You're a loser. Imagine crying, imagine crying at the guy who's standing up at the podium saying, how good is Australia? How good are Australians? That's beautiful, Scott. How good are they?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Tony! Tony! Tony! Tony! Oh boy. Oh, that clip is going to play in my dreams and my nightmares. Go and then, tell me where your parents migrated from? You see, my parents are quiet Australians. My father worked for 40 years as a truck driver, three shifts a day, six days a week, one that started at 1 a.m. Mum tells a story from before I was born where they found dad asleep on someone's doorstep during a milk run because he was doing that
Starting point is 00:33:34 and two other jobs including driving a taxi. When his company made their employer employed driver's contractors he only got holidays when he could find a subcontract driver to do his shifts. So we didn't go on many and when we did we stayed in a caravan on a small block of land he'd bought near tea gardens. All right, so just stopping right at the right of the opening bell here. So your dad had to do three jobs. He had to, I'm kind of try, I'm trying to figure out how you can do three shifts a day, one at one a.m. and also work two other jobs. Sounds illegal. And do a milk run at the same time. Sounds like his dude was working 26 hours a day. But besides that, so your dad had to work at least three jobs all the time.
Starting point is 00:34:34 When his company made their employed driver's contractors, he only got holidays when he could find subcontract drivers to do shifts. So again, something that is historically the policy of the liberals is to help weaken industrial relations to make it so that you know to try and strip power from unions to make it so that you can't do collective bargaining and ideally to casualize the workforce as much as possible, drive people onto contracts, force everybody onto individual agreements, all that sort of stuff, which has fucked up our workforce a lot over the last 20 years or so.
Starting point is 00:35:16 That kind of thing is she talking about? Yeah, sounds bad. It sounds like something that the right wing are super into, and super into allowing companies to do. But,, that's probably unrelated to this. Probably. He earned enough to send me to a Catholic school, but private school was financially out of the question. Oh, I had to go to a Catholic school instead of a private school. It was a public Catholic school?
Starting point is 00:35:46 I don't, yeah, I don't really understand this one. I don't get how that would work. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that that that that. that. that that that that that. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. don't really understand this one. I don't get how that would work. I don't think that's a thing. There's no such thing as a government Catholic school, right? I don't think so. A Catholic school, so yeah, like a Catholic school, which is also only for girls, but somehow isn't a private school? If we're wrong about this, feel free to contract Andrew and let him know. Come tag me, right in, right into, hey you guys at Bundavista.com, and say,
Starting point is 00:36:14 uh, actually there's tons of Catholic girls-only public schools in this country? But hey, maybe we're wrong. I got many things, but my childhood was one of meagre living so that when I left high school he could support me through five long years of university. Get a job, lady. Are you serious? Oh no! My dad paid for everything while I went to university for five years.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I paid for five years of uni. You've had a rough time, sweetie. I was the first in my family to a tent. He is retired now and due to his hard work and ability to invest in some property, he is self-funded. My parents live in a small house on the central coast, having moved from Sydney just before the property boom. They are still not rich and live without luxury, but they are comfortable and free. If successful this election, this was a family that the Labour Party would have deemed wealthy
Starting point is 00:37:09 enough to punish for their hard work, preferring to reward those that are a drain on society, taking a pension. Taking a pension makes you a drain on society now. Also I think when she said that her family wasn't rich it kind of sounds like she's saying that they are rich. Yeah so it's weird that they're that they are definitely not wealthy. They're independently self-funded retirees who are definitely not wealthy but also would have been a target for higher tax rates or...
Starting point is 00:37:44 Changes to negative gearing perhaps? Do they have multiple investment properties but also no money? Kind of hard, kind of hard to say. But of course this, this is one of these pieces where the person immediately reveals what they actually think about other people which is that if you're taking a pension you're a pension, you are a drain. Being rewarded for being a drain on society. None of these people ever actually go to the extent of answering the like implicit question that comes with that, which is what would you like somebody who is like past the age where they can still work?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Who's like physically unable to work anymore, but also does not, through whatever reasoning, does not have enough of a body of money there to pay for themselves for the rest of their lives. What do they want to happen to those people? Do they just want to get rid of him? Take Nana and Granddad out back and shoot him. Soilant green. We need some soil and green action going here. We need to, what's the movie, Logan's Run? Once you get past the same age?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Logan's run out of grandparents. Yeah. But on Saturday night the quiet, hard-working Australian spoke. They spoke words the loud left wing have never let them say. You're allowed to say it. You're allowed to say it. You've literally say it constantly. These are the quiet ones that have never taken a hand out. Even when they arrived in Australia after months on a ship from Europe to escape the war in 1937, they didn't expect help. So again, this is, this is getting into this weird region here. Even when he was pulled from school at 14,
Starting point is 00:39:30 despite showing promise in maths and forced to work in his father's fruit shop, my father never expected others to look after him. So, again, like, being pulled from school at 14 and forced to immediately start full-time work is good? It's good actually. It's good for everyone or like, I just don't understand. I feel like this is a very, very, very, um, very like Americanized kind of the obsession with pulling yourself up by your your bootstraps type of thing. Mm-hmm. While complaining about how rough the conditions were before. Yeah, exactly. What like what this sort of stuff really reminds me of is like the whole the whole discourse around like hitting your
Starting point is 00:40:16 kids, you know of like I got hit? Yeah, it's like I got hit so why can't my parents beat the shit out of me so my kid should should put up with being hit. And I turned out fine I'm not emotionally stunted and feel the need to hit my children also. Yeah and like and I think that there's there's sort of parallels in the in the psychology of them, the average, very average, backseat psychology, which is like, I think that people have this idea of things like, you know, your parents hitting you and screaming at you and shit like that, where everybody wants to think of their parents as having, well I'm sure a lot of people want to think of their parents as just having done the best that they could.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And yeah, having just tried their best and everything, so even if your parents hit you or whatever, then in your mind, you have two options there. You either have to sort of think to yourself, oh if my parents hit me and hitting your kids is bad, then my parents are bad. Well, or at the very least it means that there are points at which your parents weren't doing something that had your best interests at heart. And so people wind up like, you know, reverse engineering this whole logic to it of like, oh well actually, you know's it's it's better for kids to have to deal with some of that shit and oh you know if people can't grab their child very hard by the upper arm and shouting their face in front of people then then oh they'll be
Starting point is 00:42:00 soft or whatever despite the fact that you know like I'm pretty sure that absolutely all research that has ever been conducted on it just shows that there are no positive long-term or short-term benefits of any kind to hitting your children. So people have to convince themselves well it's not actually bad because if it was bad then my parents did something bad to me. Yep. A lot of psychological gymnastics. Well, it's not actually bad, because if it was bad, then my parents did something bad to me. Yep. A lot of psychological gymnastics. Yeah, and like, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I got hit by my parents. Like, you know, I got struck with wooden spoons and shit like that. But I don't think that my parents now would be like, yeah, that's awesome and you should be doing it to your kids. You should be hitting our grandchildren with... Why aren't you hitting our grandchildren harder? Yeah and and so I think in some ways that people you know people are like doing like either what they were used to or what they they thought was the best of the time or or even like you know people people people know that it's not the best the the best the thi tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th right th right thin thin thin thin that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that their that that to to that that to that that their that that that that that that th or what they thought was the best of the time or or even like you know people people know that it's not the best thing to do but like real life is hard sometimes that's a reasonable opinion to have on it
Starting point is 00:43:17 well like like yeah having having my own kids now like I know that, like, our kids have both been sick for like the second half of this week, which means that they've been like stuck inside the house, and they got cabin fever and they got crazy, and our three-year-old is at this point that three-year-olds get to where she just cannot stop noise from coming out of her mouth. And they're both really nice kids, they're both,, th th th th th th th th really really really really really sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet the their their their their their their their their th th th sick sick sick sick sick sick sick th sick sick sick sick sick th th sick sick sick sick sick sick sick th th th th th their sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick th their th their th their th their th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet th get to where she just cannot stop noise from coming out of her mouth. And they're both really nice kids, they're both really sweet little girls, but I've still found myself going in like in my head, oh my god, shut up, shut up, stop talking to me. Like, you do, you get hugely frustrated. and yeah you can get short with your kids,
Starting point is 00:44:08 you speak to them in ways that you then say I really shouldn't have done that. And like I said that's that's life. Life is, people do not always act absolutely perfectly at every point in their life. But I can also look at that and say that that situation. I can look at that and say that's not how I should have handled that situation. I can look at it and say just because I got hit with wooden spoons and shit when I was a kid it doesn't mean that that's a great way to do it. A good thing. But instead you wind up with people like this of you know my parents got pulled out of school at 14 despite showing
Starting point is 00:44:44 promise in various areas and instead they were forced into full-time labor as a teenager. But they never expected other people to look after them. When my mother left a loveless home at 16 and began to work as an usher in a city theater. She didn't expect anyone to help her either. And like, there's just to me this fundamental kind of brokenness in this of like, just because, th, th, th, th, th, th, just, th, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they were they were they they they they they they they were they they they they they were they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they, they they, they, they, they, they they, thi thi, thi thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea there's just to me this fundamental kind of brokenness in this of like just because just because they didn't expect anyone to help them, does that mean no one should ever strive to help each other? No one should help anyone. Yeah like it really is the, my parents hit me so it's
Starting point is 00:45:24 okay for me to hit my kids. It's I didn't get help so it's okay for other people to not get help. Hmm. There's also this common attitude that I feel like is coming through a bit in this, which is always like rich people that say, oh well, we might be rich now, but my parents worked hard. Like as though the person has some responsibility for the fact that their parents worked hard so therefore they don't have any kind of privilege. Yeah like it's this transitive property because like what this lady is describing to us the whole time is I was taking care of every step of the way.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah, I was I was kept safe and fed and clothed and somebody else worked hard to put me through university so I could be put in this advantageous position. And now I don't think I have any kind of privilege in society. Yeah, I don't have any privilege and you know nobody has any kind of responsibility to anyone else to try and make it so that people also have that opportunity. They understood their own strength, the power of their ingenuity, the get up and go, the lucky country inspired in them. I'm rolling my eyes so hard. They knew that if they worked hard, they could make a life for themselves and their
Starting point is 00:46:40 future family. They lifted themselves from immigrant working class to somewhere in the middle, very deliberately vague. But like, yeah again, this still just doesn't take into account. You know what this makes me thing of is like when you see interviews with like celebrities or actors or whatever and I always talk about like, oh, and I worked a shitty job waiting tables, you know, like people love those interviews with actors where they talk about the shitty jobs that they had before they were rich and famous, you know, because it proves that they were shitty and poor too,
Starting point is 00:47:22 and they worked hard and they managed to find all the success. And all I ever think of whenever I see that story is, that's great. Now what about the other 500,000 people for every one person who winds up being an A-list Hollywood celebrity? Yeah. Who like moved out to LA and worked at a shitty bar or whatever, and plugged away trying to, you know, get scripts to people and do auditions and all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:48 The obvious, yeah, the obvious implication of the pull yourself up by your bootstraps type shit is, well that person just, they mustn't have worked hard enough or... Yeah, it's just this implicit suggestion that only rich people worked hard. I don't know what, like they think that poor people are thiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. And, and thi, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, to, to to to thr-I. And, to, to to to thr-I. And, thr-I. And, and, thi. And, th. And, and know what like they think that poor people are doing all the time. Like we just like hang out. Well it just it just also like it just completely dismisses as part of part of like the analogy of the Hollywood thing. It completely dismisses the relevance of like life is a lottery. Life is just people are not in control of everything that happens to them. Like people get sick, people
Starting point is 00:48:33 unexpectedly die, like people people get injured in work in a way that means they can't work anymore. Like all kinds of shit happens to people. People marry someone and then find out that they're't work anymore. Like all kinds of shit happens to people. People marry someone and then find out that they're abusive afterwards. Like just so many things that happen to people that are just out of their control. Not to mention how many people that would potentially be in a position exactly like this person's talking about who would do something like marry someone purely for financial security who turns out to be an abuser, you know. And it's like, so what's that person's option? So they get to stay in an abusive relationship
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Starting point is 00:49:56 complete psychological refusal to accept that that anything that they had is by luck. I don't know where that comes from maybe it's because you have to then inherently accept that life that they had is by luck. I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's because you have to then inherently accept that life is not fair and the things that are happening to less fortunate people, like it's not fair and that could happen to you or anyone. Well, even in this woman's case, like I said, just, even discounting, like, you know, she's saying, oh, my parents worked worked th and tha, tha, th and th and th and tha, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, that's that's, that's, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, my parents worked incredibly hard to pull themselves up and get themselves to a point where they could put me through university
Starting point is 00:50:31 and now my life rocks and I've got everything and everything's fine. Like, even that is ignoring the implicit, like, luck that comes with, having parents who had like a work ethic to go and do that. Yeah, yeah, most people don't have those parents either. Yeah, good like good for you lady. You didn't have parents where like, you know, one of them accidentally got addicted to heroin at some point or your dad just went out for cigarettes when you were six and never fucking came back, like happens to a lot of people. And again, like you said, she's casting that as tho th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi, that their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, the. the. the. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. their the people. And again like you said she's casting that as though that is some kind of like inherent, inherent quality that she has somehow transitively gained
Starting point is 00:51:17 from her parents, you know? As opposed to purely like yeah again being unable to recognize your own luck of being born to parents who have then worked hard enough to give you to purely, like, yeah, again, being unable to recognize your own luck of being born to parents who have then worked hard enough to give you some semblance of security in life, but just being completely unable to recognize how many people's lives don't work out like that. And again, in as much of a way that has nothing to do with them or their actions as this lady's life has nothing to do with them or their actions as this lady's life has nothing to do with her actions. It's all somebody else's work that she's living off. But nobody else should be living off anybody else's work
Starting point is 00:51:56 except for her. Except for her. So it gets it gets extremely ridiculous now if you thought that this was pretty dumb. There are people like my father in this country now, and they also don't want a hand out from guilt-ridden eastern suburbs residents who look condescendingly on anyone outside of the 5-kilometer ring road from Bondi Beach. Okay. They don't want a Valclouse, Chanel-Wearing, ex--CEO turning up in the western suburbs to help their daughters because she needs to be generous to those poorer than herself.
Starting point is 00:52:32 What? This is definitely a thing. This is definitely a real thing. What the Labour Party wants. It is an insult and it is demeaning. The attitude from these well-meaning yet misguided Mercedes Socialists who, while offering support, are hiding their wealth in some tax haven. Yes, that's um... That's who's out there.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Mercedes Socialists, I thought we were all unemployed. Yeah, I'm, I'm very confused by the image that this person has of like people who want like you know an increase in social welfare people who want like people who want New Start to be like a living wage and all that sort of thing. Apparently they are people who drive Mercedes and hide all their wealth in offshore tax havens. Which is inherently the opposite of socialism, but continue. Yeah, I'm extremely confused by this particular part. Helping the oppressed is really just a way to keep their own mixed up guilt suppressed.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, helping people is the worst. Yeah, I'm normal and I think that the only reason to help another person is through guilt. Well again it's just like the same way that up the top of this article this person is very quickly betrayed their actual feelings by saying that anybody on a pension is a drain on society. Yeah. And then to say, hey, the only reason that anyone would try to help oppressed people is because they've been guilted into it. Yep. And frankly, people like me and my family don't want anything to do with their delusions of grandeur and their assumptions that somehow their lives are better
Starting point is 00:54:25 than ours because they have more money. What? She's, hasn't... She's very confused. Sorry, so the socialists are the people with more money who look down on her? And who hire their money in tax havens. And the only reason to help anyone is because you've been guilted into doing. But helping people who they assume can't help themselves
Starting point is 00:54:54 because they weren't lucky enough to go to Kincopal or the like. Is that like a Sydney private school? Must be a Sydney thing. It's actually even more sinister. It is a form of power and control. It ensures the poor are never enabled to look after themselves as they take the payout that yells to them, you are useless without me your generous benefactor. Oh I love this argument that it's the poor need to be empowered by having no money. Yep. Because I mean yeah if there's one thing that we've seen it's, it's a thinne, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, if there's one thing that we've seen, it's that, you know, people who need unemployment benefits are really, really helped out by having to do like 30, 30 job interviews a month and a whole bunch of jumping through hoops and all that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, working for the doll which is far below minimum wage. That's really empowering. They were talking about this the other week on that god-awful show Studio 10 with Carrie Ann Kennelly and Joe Hildebrand and everything. Even fucking Joe Hilderbrand, who is as dumb as a block of wood, even he was saying about this, they were talking about, they were talking about there being like you know, a big crackdown on welfare recipients and stuff where they were cutting off people's welfare payments due to like repeat, repeat infractions of this system of where you have to like keep
Starting point is 00:56:27 regularly reporting in and reporting you know what jobs you're applying for and all that sort of stuff except that they're doing that to homeless people so there's homeless people that they're taking off job benefits because they're not like and even Joe Hildebrand was able to say, like, how does this help anybody? You don't help people get into a job by taking away the only money that they're getting. If somebody's homeless, then, you know, they already have enough trouble with things like accessing a computer
Starting point is 00:56:59 and the internet where you need to do all of this stuff. And like finding somewhere to have a shower and get some clean clothes so you can go to a to a to a to a the job to a job the job the job the job the job the job the job the job all of this stuff. And like finding somewhere to have a shower and get some clean clothes so you can go to a job interview and all this sort of shit. This idea that like just by constantly taking away any form of safety net that people have will somehow magically compel them into going, oh well now I'll suddenly get a job that I could get
Starting point is 00:57:23 the job that didn't exist just purely by the numbers before this. I just wheel myself into it. Again, even Joe Hildebrand was like, the fundamental problem that this comes down to is that there are more unemployed people than there are available jobs in this country. Incredibly simple. It's very, very simple. He said there are always going to be some unemployed people. And if you have this whole thing, there's incredibly punitive measures of trying to make sure that as many people as possible are getting kicked off it. You're not fucking doing anything to help them. No.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Just making the entire thing harder and making it more likely that people will wind up in prison, have their lives going further off the rails, but all that so that this fucking lady can feel like nobody's getting a hand out that's going to make them feel bad. She says it maintains the status quo and keeps clear space between the rich and lowly poor. It is the opposite of Australia where everyone is equal and movement through the classes is possible, a beautiful egalitarian promise that needs protection. Not what any of those words mean. Like, yeah, I just don't understand anybody like this
Starting point is 00:58:42 who cannot see the connection between like being provided with a basic form of sustenance and like, you know, social and medical safety nets that mean things like, if you are, if you are like injured or sick or something like that, that it doesn't mean that you're just put out on the street. Yeah. Or, or yeah, if for the many reasons that people find themselves out of work, again, a lot of which it's a do with policies championed by the government that this lady voted for in the first place. That's right. She goes on, delusion, hypocrisy and a complete lack of understanding of the Australian spirit is why Labour lost on the weekend.
Starting point is 00:59:34 People don't want help from those with ocean views. They want to stand on their own two feet and provide for themselves and their families and maybe one day by a view of their own. And of course we know that like unemployed people can do that by having their unemployment benefits cut off? Yeah that's definitely helps you. It just really inspires people. Also definitely when I was unemployed I was thinking about the house with a view that I was going to one day by. It's just ridiculous. Like, well even then I'm sure that you were thinking to yourself when you were collecting the doll,
Starting point is 01:00:25 oh, I'm really resentful of people who paid their taxes so that I could get enough money to buy some food. Damn, stop giving me this money. I hate eating. Stop looking down on me. I hate this eating. Oh, if you gave me a bit more money so that I could pay my rent and eat. Ah, it'd make me feel like shit. It'd make me so angry. Oh, just incredible.
Starting point is 01:00:44 This is what people think of the poor. It's incredible. Well, it's just, and what's remarkable about it, of course, is the cognitive dissonance between both talking about how incredibly hard a life, you know, your parents have had and how hard they had to work, specifically because they received no form of support from anybody and then to go on about how nobody wants or requires any kind of support. It's like yeah maybe maybe if your parents had of had access to some kind of support your dad wouldn't have had to like quit school and go work in a fucking fruit shop. Maybe they they wouldn't have been so mad and raised you to be such a selfish asshole.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Absolutely. The libs have enabled people to be independent and grow like a parent that recognizes painfully that they have to stand back and let their children live their own lives no matter the consequences or how many fucking years you have to pay for their uni fees. There's nothing like... Yeah, I love to let it, standing back and letting my daughter live her own life while I pay her way through university. Yeah, well I work a bunch of jobs after she's turned 18 in order to pay for her education. Weird. If they don't, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they th th th th thi tho tho tho tho thi thi thate thate tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho tho thu thu thu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi that that that that that that to have have have have have to have to have to have to to to thateee that thate that that that that that that that that turned 18 in order to pay for her education. Weird. If they don't, they know the child will never become a useful adult and will remain dependent on them. It is easier to rush in and help to believe they need you and
Starting point is 01:02:14 want you and it makes you feel good. Not helping my children to own the left. Oh boy. This is just a real picture of what they think. I love it. Well and that at the end of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th thu us thu us thu us thu us thu us thu thi thi thi ti thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their ti ti their ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to This is just a real picture of what they think. I love it. Well, and that at the end of the day, I mean, I know I've said this many times on this show, at the end of the day, what this shit is all about is just about doing all the mental gymnastics and everything that you have to do to justify complete selfishness. To say the society I want to live in is one that has enabled me to have a nice life
Starting point is 01:02:51 and I don't want to have to give a fucking dime of anything to anyone else. Yeah, it's the classic Australian I've got mine attitude. Yep. And that's what we love to see. Depressing stuff, but really good that this is what is dominating the pages of our newspapers at the moment. Just people explaining, just people bleating in a very offended voice about why it's actually good that they voted for the party of selfish. I'm not selfish. Here's 10 selfish reasons why I voted for this party. Good stuff. I love to do our hundredth episode with a bunch of really positive, exciting takes. Maybe we should try and think of something positive to talk about the next week. We'll think of something. If you notice the absence of Ben, he just have to quietly to to have to have to have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiioeeaugheateateateateateateauoea theauoeauoeauiiauiauia theauiauiauia th the reasons why why why why why why why I the think of something positive to talk about the next week. We'll come up with it. We'll think of something. If you notice the absence of Ben,
Starting point is 01:03:48 he has to quietly abscond during the episode in order to go and catch a flight on a small plane? Slunk away. Yeah, I don't know where he's going. I think isn't he going to like ride in a little submarine somewhere? Oh, that sounds like fun. He gets to fly in a cool little plane. Flying a cool little plane and go on a submarine. So who knows what the hell is going on with that? But we'll ask him about it when he gets back. You know, Focker. He's writing the Focker. Meet the Fockers. Meet the Fockers. Did they make three of those movies? They've made a lot of those movies. Fuck it off. Well, that'll do us, everybody. Thank you for, I can only assume that you have listened to 100 episodes of this show. And I thank you for doing so.
Starting point is 01:04:35 When you think about it, though, we've made more like 180 episodes, and you can listen to all those other spare ones by going over to Patron. Slap and down five clams a month. Just five. You get an extra episode every week. It's only five. It's the price of a, well it's a US dollar, so it's the price of an expensive sandwich from a cafe. Or maybe a large Frappuccino from McDonald's or something. A fancy coffee a month.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You can't give that up just for us? Yeah. Bloody elites. That's right. That's right. Also, of course we have our extra things going on over on the Patreon. You get access to the discord and you get to be, um, depending on what level you subscribe at. You can join the movie club where you get to be, depending on what level you subscribe at, you can join the movie club where you get to watch movies on a live stream with me and Ben and whoever else- Sometimes the rest of us, maybe. You get to vote on which movie we will be watching from Fortnite to Fortnite this week. The movie is either going to be the sword and the sorcerer from 1982 or the three fantastic supermen from 1967.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Quality stuff, the voting is neck and neck, so please sign up, and get your vote in. And, uh, yeah, I think that'll do us. Thanks for your time, everybody. She is. Sorry, our politics is a stupid, stupid hell-holt. Send us some positive news for next week, please. Please send us some positive news to hey you guys. At Punta Vist.com. Oh, also, I just did an appearance on, uh, UK sister, sister podcast,
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