Boonta Vista - EPISODE 156: Strike Farce Dominion

Episode Date: July 5, 2020

Andrew, Lucy, Theo, and Ben are all here to talk about Dan Andrews turning public housing into Dredd (2012), whether or not the contiguous United States will be here in a decade, and NSW Police making... and selling their own drugs to stop drugs being made and sold. *** Andrew, Lucy, and Ben take a break from spoiling the end of Uncut Gems to talk about hysterical, dairy-addled cops pretending to be poisoned to make people like them, and try fit the perverted French Canadians into existing show canon. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Email the show at mailbag@boontavista.com! Call in and leave us a question or a message on 1800-317-515 to be answered on the show! *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista Website: boontavista.com Merchandise: boontavista.com/merchandise Twitch: twitch.tv/boontavista

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Bont Vista episode 156. May I be the first to say happy 4th of July, America, it's number one in COVID-19 cases. Still feels great to be number one. We're here in 1776, the signing of the Declaration of Independence. We've managed to charm our way into the room, despite the three-slave minimum to enter, and despite my peace-sized woman's brain being incapable of complex thought. In one corner, there's Thomas Jefferson. He's taking a beating from the hugest man you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:01:02 He has frankly terrifying pectorals, and neck the size of your torso. He welcomes you. You're surprised to hear that his voice really does not match his face. Theo, hello. Hey, how you're going. I like to be made out to be like some sort of historical Trent Resna. Oh boy, that is so true. On the other side of the room, is a less girthy man, but he is at least seven feet tall, as I understand it. He's waterboarding and very confused John Adams. He's holding up a photo of Bigfoot and asking, where have you seen this man? Ben, welcome. It is correct that I would refer to Bigfoot as a man. I respect his humanity above all else.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Also fuck John Adams. Fuck John Adams. He deserves everything that he gets. Over in the back, of course, there's a very, very sneaky looking man. He's holding a big quill. He's changing the words on a big scroll to say that men's, unalienable rights are those of life, liberty and the pursuit of big naturals. That's Andrew. I'm fixing this country.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We're going back in time to fix this country. We're fixing it. That's what we're here for. Oh, we're going to finally acknowledge that Bigfoot deserves the same rights as every other man. Thank you. Andrew is already working on the First Amendment, which is, do I understand it, setting in law that it's totally normal to have an itchy asshole all the time. It's very forward-thinking to be there at the day that it's being written and signed to also be thinking of amendments for the future.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You could just change it now before it's signed. Well, I suppose you could. It seems like a lot. tha tha no, I think I've just confused the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution. Oh, I fucked up. Hey, I said, take it out on Washington. Speaking of naturals, I almost crashed my car today because I drove past a place just had a side out the front that said, handmade naturals. I was just like, what the fuck would that mean? Still don't know. Boy. To go back there and find out, a little investigation.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Certainly well. Oh my gosh. Well, you know, we're also here trying to change rules to make sure the tyranny is not inflicted on the good people of the world because right. We're all still cool with slaves though. It's not going to stop that, right. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. that, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, that, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, tho, tho, thi. thi. to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be. to be. to be. to be. to, to, to, to, thi. to. to. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to be. to be. to be. to be. thi. to be. thi. to be. to be. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooooooooooo. too. too. te. too. too. thae. too. too. too. too slaves though. Just it's not going to stop that, right? That's the one thing that no one in this room will bend on, actually. I love having slaves, don't though. It's very weird. Just love it.
Starting point is 00:03:32 A little too much. Yes, folks, right here in 2020, we have our own dictators here in Australia. Don't we just? Chief among them, dictator Dan. Comrade Chairman Dan Andrews. Comrade Chairman Dictator Dan Andrews, the Commy son of a bitch. That's right. And when we're talking about him being a dictator, we're not talking about him running a police date. We're talking about him saying that you can't get on the beers at the pub. Just to be clear. Yes, absolutely. Open the golf courses. We're the th, we. We th. We th. We are the goal. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the goal. th. I th. I the goal. I the goal. I th. I the goal. I the goal. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the c. Com, the the c. Com, the c. Com, the com. Com, the c. Com, the c. the c. the c. the c. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm ta. I'm ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. Come. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. Comrade. I'm ta. him saying that you can't get on the beers at the pub, just to be clear. Yes, absolutely. Open the golf courses. Open the goal. I'm Sam Newman doing racism and demanding that you open the golf courses. But yeah, so there's been a, there has been a spike in coronavirus cases, a second wave, if you will, in in Victoria and I feel like for a
Starting point is 00:04:25 while there you know Australia had been doing a very good job of collectively flattening the curve if you will and everybody was like you know good on us good on us all our states and our territories you know listening to to the rules, doing the right thing, keep it all together. Treat ourselves with a few nights out at the pub, a few parties with our friends in our houses. We treat ourselves with lots of nights at the pub, get the footy back on, all that sort of thing. It's been so long since I've been able to open my mouth wide, all that sort say, right in here thanks, cough right into this bad boy. Don't be shy. Because that's freedom, you know? That's freedom.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Freedom is having 25 of your best friends over to all take turns, open mouth kissing each other. Yeah. Teens are having coughed into every mouth? Oh, have you, that just, sorry, this is very specific, but there was a fucking future armor episode about, I don't know, there was something where they had to swap people's brains around but couldn't do it back into the same body or whatever, and they ended up getting a paper published out of it for finding the algorithm, to, number of swaps, which I assume would apply in this situation as well. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Look that up. Good to know. So, um, so yeah, we were all feeling really good about it. We're all patting each other on the back, but from, you know, doing the motion from one and a half meters away. And then there was this spike in Victoria and all of a sudden all of the other states were like, fuck Victoria! Close the borders, madmax them, take all of their petrol, take all of their gasoline. Hate these motherfuckers and all of the all of the premieres of the different states were like,
Starting point is 00:06:20 fuck Victorians, don't let them into our state. That Queensland Labour put up the thing, the poster being like, we're, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, their, fuck, fuck, tho, th That Queensland Labour put up the thing, the poster being like, we're about to be swamped by Victorians. Oh wow, you managed to be racist against a state. Congratulations. It's amazing. I saw one from South Australia, the last state to be shit-talking other states. And it was just like the main graphic on the poster was the shape of Victoria with a big cross over it. Didn't like the premiere of someone from South Australia it was just like why would you want to visit Victoria anyway? Dan Andrews said that about South Australia. He's like why would you
Starting point is 00:06:55 want to go to South Australia. I love that we have such a normal country. Every Premier is a catty bitch. Messessy bitches that love drama. It's weird to see people collectively turning on Victoria because from where I'm sitting, the beautiful state of Queensland, relatively benign place, Victoria. I think they're jealous haters, personally. I agree. Seeing people in Sydney be like, yeah, Melbourne sucks, you're like, oh come on. Come on. Have some fucking self-respect. Everyone knows you're lying.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Well, and this is the thing it has, for most people, immediately become a way to claim victory in the old Victoria versus Sydney, Victoria versus New South Wales, wars, which number one, we all know that Victoria is better. But number two, nobody outside of those places cares. No one cares. Everybody has to listen to the two of them like bitching at each other, trying to make out of...
Starting point is 00:07:50 Here's all the other reasons that Victoria's bad. Everybody's wearing black. Ah. Drinking a latte. So because we've had this big spiking cases, beloved, beloved chairman, Dan, loved by all labor voters and sweet neolibraals, has opted to turn public housing towers into the blocks from Judge Dredd. That was actually the first thing that occurred to me when this started happening,
Starting point is 00:08:25 which is probably a sign that I am not smart enough to engage in politics properly. Yeah, well, here I am with you. You know? Here I am with you also thinking of Judge Brett. So this did start with locking down certain suburbs, as I understand it. Most of my friends are in lockdown suburbs again. We're like taking a step back, but then this happened. Yes, it started with them listing off a whole bunch of post codes and saying, if you own one of these dirty post codes, you are in lockdown. Everybody else, you're doing great, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And all the rest of the state said, yeah, don't lump me in with those fucking disgusting, infected post codes. That's right. And everybody got like a little to the the thoe tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. to thee. to the. the. thi. the. the. thi. the. the. th. th. th. codes. That's right. And everybody got like a little too into it all of a sudden. This is the pattern with all of this, is that like, I feel like there was this general vibe of solidarity. And then the instant that one state has had like a big uptick, everybody's like, oh for sure. It's like so first year behavioral studies in group, outgroup,
Starting point is 00:09:25 psychology stuff going down. I love it. And then the second. Like a bit of a downer. Like, I think people have at this point, we have been doing lockdown shit. And well, coronavirus stuff for so long that we've kind of reached the end of our, just the empathy threshold. We've all been like, their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, thi, and thi, it's, and thi, and thi, it's, and thi, and their, and thi, thi, and then, and then, it's, it's, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, their, thi. thin, thin, theeat, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the second, the second, the second, thean, and then, and then, thean, and then empathy threshold. We've all been like, yeah, we're all in this together, this sucks, but we're gonna get through this and we've just been like, fuck you, 30, 22 or whatever the postcode's
Starting point is 00:09:49 are, go to hell. We had to go through all the whole kind of like, well, now coronavirus is gonna have this massive uptick because of black life matter and then, you know, it did. That would have proved you wrong if it happened. Anyway, you, uh, cruise ship, just unload wherever. No, no, no, we're not taking into notes. I mean, why would we? You guys are fine. You're fine. Hey, if you can afford to get on a cruise ship.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He haven't got any recorded cases of coronavirus, several? It's all right. It's not like they'll end they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll, it's not like they'll end up accounting for 10% of all coronavirus cases in the state or anything. Not at all. And now to look up where that boat landed. So, um, fuck you, Sidney. So yeah, we drilled down from, uh, you guys and our, the stinky state to, ah, look at all the gross post codes, to now we have drilled all the way down to 3,000 people in nine public housing towers in Flemington and North Melbourne,
Starting point is 00:10:51 who are all being placed into a quote hard lockdown. And that is not as sexy as it sounds. None of these people are allowed to leave their homes at all for at least five days so that they can all be tested. There's nothing like locking a whole bunch of poor people in their house until you can test them all. Seems good. So a number of other suburbs in Melbourne around to stay-at-home orders, but like the first time around they're allowed to leave their house to shop and go to work and exercise. So they're kind of back at the stage that we were at in the early early.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So they're kind of back at the stage that we were at in the early going where it was like Kind of stay at home unless you actually need to go and do something Which I guess was also that stage like in New South Wales when the cops were just cruising around? Just harassing anybody who was outside of the house for any reason? You know like people sitting in a car park looking the water kind of thing, and they just come up and go, you're knit. So this is from the Guardian, Melbourne's hard lockdown orders residents of nine housing towards to stay home. The Victorian government's decision to lock down all nine towers was made because of quote, patterns of movement, friendship groups friendship groups family groups the premier said Daniel Andrews also cited the crowded living in
Starting point is 00:12:09 public housing and many communal spaces meaning community transmission was high risk I wonder I assume then that they're applying it to say every other large apartment building in in the city you would think so that would make sense yeah so so 500 cops per shift are going to be deployed to say the the the the the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the in the city? You would think so. That would make sense. Yeah. So 500 cops per shift are going to be deployed into these nine public housing blocks. That is one cop for every six people. What the fuck? Doesn't that seem fucked? Hmm. So they can make sure that nobody leaves their apartments. And according to the Guardian, no warning was given before police arrived and began enforcing this lockdown. So again, this is from the Guardian.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Andrew said that the state government would be arranging for food, health care and other essential services to be delivered to the residents. But the details of how that will work have not been announced or discussed with the residents themselves. The housing minister Richard Wynn said people living in these public housing towers were quote, some of the most vulnerable people in our community. Many of them are subjected to comorbidities and we want to ensure that we wrap around them all of the services they are going to need, not just over the five or next five days or indeed potentially the next 14 days, but going forward that we will provide them with all the support they need to maintain their wellness wellness wellness wellness to to maintain their wellness wellness their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tenancy and obviously to maintain their wellness also. I love maintaining my wellness. Wellness. Feels so good when I have managed to keep a tight grip on my world. Shackling my wealth to myself. But no social workers or other
Starting point is 00:13:39 support workers were observed outside the tower blocks in Flamington on Saturday night, only armed police officers wearing gloves and face masks. Very cool. Apparently, yeah, what this is coming out looking like is like armed cops on every floor of these apartment complexes so that if anybody comes out of their apartment, they can go, yo're not allowed to go anywhere. You can't go downstairs and walk around, stretch your legs. You can't take your small children out of your extremely small apartment. Get back in there. Why the fuck do they have to be armed? Yeah, there's so many situations where it's like what if you didn't take your gun out with you for this? Yeah, what are they gonna do? Someone? You're gonna shoot someone? You're gonna shoot someone? Yeah, just shooting at the foot f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t to. to. to. to. to. to. te. to. te. te. te. te. t. shooting at the foot they can see peaking outside the door.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Back in there! It's, it's extremely depressing. And I would note, you know, as we've said back here, basically they just moved in on these apartment buildings and started locking them all down without giving anybody any notice or saying, hey, here's what's going to happen and how we're going to deal with things like feeding you. Meanwhile on Daniel Andrews' Instagram account, he has a post showing a box, a cardboard box with a bunch of stuff in it. And he says, from this morning we'll start delivering one of these activity boxes to every child in the nine restricted public housing towers. It's full of books and puzzles, crayons, Lego, ideas, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and herb, and th, and th, and th, and tho, and tho, and thiol, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and thoe, and thoe, and thoe, and thoe, and thoe, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho public housing towers. It's full of books and puzzles, crayons, Lego,
Starting point is 00:15:05 ideas for exercising at home, herb and flower seeds, and a special egg carton to grow them in. No one wants to be in this situation, especially kids with lots of energy, but we'll do whatever we can to make it a little bit easier. And someone in the comments was like, so you had time to make hundreds of these fucking boxes of coloring books and Lego and shit
Starting point is 00:15:26 and get them all ready to go out this morning, but you didn't have time to tell any of these people? Do you think that was like so that, um, so that, you know, nobody could hear we are going to lock you all into your apartments and then go somewhere else? Oh, for sure. And like not let not give them the chance to leave before that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho th tho tho tho tho th go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go tho thi tho to go out to go to go to go to go tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the to go out to go out to go out to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi you all into your apartments and then go somewhere else. For sure and like not let not give them the chance to leave before that happened certainly. I'm looking at the photo of the box and something that's really fucking me up here is well two-pronged first thing what the fuck is a special egg card by all accounts it is a regular egg card just looking at it. We're also the disparity in cost between like, Andrew, you're a parent, you know how much Lego costs? That shit is fucking expensive. They're making...
Starting point is 00:16:13 They cost too much damn money. Hundreds of these. And then also just throwing in like an old egg carton that line around. Very funny. Maybe don't blow all your money on Lego, fools. Idiot. I'm a stress ball, that'll help. Is that a fucking stress ball? It sure looks like it, you know, the classic like smiley face one. The cheapest possible thing that you can give out to anybody anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And a mug saying po-body's nerfix. That's right. I also think that he's technically using the Lego terms wrong. You know, get his ass. Because he's supposed to say Lego bricks. Oh, is the plural like how Americans say fucking Legos? I think you can say Lego plural, right? Yeah, I think Dan Andrews is actually fine here.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Unfortunately, I think he's correct. Well, he, well he hasn't done in all capitals, which is the way you are supposed to present the brand. I think we're gonna have to get the good people at Lego to come down there with a pipe bust up his fucking legs. person. I'm just sick of this format so much. We're gonna lock you guys down because we can because it's the right thing to do. I'm no child expert either but I think kids that have been like indoors with nothing to do and just like boiling with child energy. What they really love to do is sit down quietly in
Starting point is 00:17:43 front of a book. I like color in the lines. Well as as wife of the show, my wife Eleanor said when we were reading this news this morning, she was like, this would be a fucking nightmare for us. And we have our own house with like, you know, bedrooms for each of us kind of thing. Mr. Bedrooms over here. Yeah, Mr. Bedrooms, they're so small. Such small bedrooms.
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Starting point is 00:18:54 Just be like, all right, here you go, here's fucking Doom Eternal, go fucking nuts, tidy five-year-old child. Yeah, it's not good. Get the regals out, you know. So this is public housing. So the population in these units will tend to reflect higher percentages of vulnerable people. This is from the Guardian again. Residents living in the flats are among the most vulnerable and heavily policed people in the state of Victoria with a high population of new migrants, indigenous people experiencing severe mental illness,
Starting point is 00:19:20 and people who have experienced family violence or homelessness. So, and this is all happening while these cases are starting the spike again. So yeah, it's very hard not to look at this and think, like, what am I trying to say? There's no great interpretation to be taken off of this. Not really. It's very hard to look at it and not think that they are either trying to, like, paternalistically control people who they think are not going to have good enough English language skills to understand what they're actually supposed to be doing, except in a way that doesn't require you to say, actually communicate with all of them. It's hard not to feel like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you've th th th thi, you've thi, you've thi, you've thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th th th th, like, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, that, like, like, like, 't require you to say, actually communicate with all of them. It's hard not to feel like, you know, I've seen a lot of people pointing out
Starting point is 00:20:10 how many, how many very large apartment buildings there are like within 500 meters from some of these towers. Yeah, literally everywhere around there. Yeah, and nobody's locking those down with the police. There's hotels, there's, you know, all kinds of things where you're talking about their their their their their the with the police. There's hotels, there's all kinds of things where you're talking about the same situation. You're talking about shared entrances and exits, shared elevators, shared communal spaces and everything. But strangely, there's something that makes this situation different and requiring of intervention.
Starting point is 00:20:41 What could it be? Hmm. So cases are starting a spike again in Victoria. and requiring of intervention. What could it be? Hmm. Hmm. So cases are starting a spike again in Victoria. The guiarding continues. The extension of the lockdown to 12 postcodes from 10 was made on the back of Victoria recording 108 new cases of COVID-19 in 24 hours. The highest single day increase in the state's figures since the national daily incidents peak on 28th of March.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Those new cases include 23 people who live in the nine public housing towers, but Victoria's Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Analese Van Deemann, said there were not hundreds of high-risk close contacts spread across the towers. If they were not locked down, she said it would risk an explosion of new cases among vulnerable people living in housing estates. I also kind of think it's hard not to look at this as like, well if there's going to be a big explosion of people getting coronavirus, let's contain it to here. Let's make sure that it's only these people getting it. Oh boy, what do you give us the conditions of the detention here Ben?
Starting point is 00:21:43 Sure, so this is just a screenshot of the form that was posted by, oh no, I never should have even started trying to say his name knowing that I'm not going to be able to pronounce this. Do you reckon that's French Luke Henri Gomer, uh, the Guardian reporter, Luke, Luke Enrique Gomez, maybe? Let's hope so. I believe he won the, uh, won the Walkley for...
Starting point is 00:22:08 It's a very good reporter. Love his work. Never tried to say it out that, I'm so sorry. Um, so the conditions of the detention are as thus. If you are not at the premises where you ordinarily reside, you must not leave the premises in which you ordinarily reside in any to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to the to the the to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the theouraryary toeckley. toe. tooome. their. they. they. You must not leave the premises in which you ordinarily reside in any circumstances, unless you have been granted permission to do so, either for the purposes of attending a medical facility to receive medical care
Starting point is 00:22:34 or where it is reasonably necessary for your physical or mental health, or on compassionate grounds, or there is an emergency situation. You must not permit any other person to enter your premises unless the person ordinarily resides there or the person is authorized to be there for a specific purpose, for example providing food or for medical reasons. Except for authorized people, the only other people allowed in your premises are people who are being detained with you. You are permitted to communicate with people who are not detained with you either by phone or other electronic means. Are you permitted to use the phone? There's a note underneath that., the note, the note, the note, the note, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th thor thoro, or thor thoro, or thor thor thor thor thor the person is the person is authorized the person is authorized the person is authorized the person is authorized the person is authorized the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the th, or th th th the th th th th. Or thor, or tho, or tho, or tho, or tho, or thoo, or thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the Are you permitted to use the phone? There's a note underneath that note an authorized officer must facilitate any reasonable request for
Starting point is 00:23:11 communication made by you in accordance with section 200 brackets five of the act and if you are under 18 years of age your parent or guardian is permitted to stay with you but only if they agree to to submit to the same conditions of detention for the period that you are detained. So you have to get locked in too. That's a fun choice isn't it? Hmm. I would just like to note, for a second, when we're talking about a hundred and eight new cases
Starting point is 00:23:38 in Victoria and 24 hours, I think that if you are American and listening to this, yeah, this sounds quite quaint at this point because I was reading yesterday about the cases in Texas. So Texas added 7,555 new cases of July the 3rd and their statewide hospitalizations continued to rise Friday, hitting a record high for the fifth day in a row with 7,652 Texans hospitalized with coronavirus. Yeah, I read, I think that was like 11,000 in Florida today. It's just unbelievable. So I think, I think that's 183,532 cases in Texas. And yeah just the people I talk to in America who like you know are living over there in Texas
Starting point is 00:24:38 friend of the show Ryan Ryan over in Texas is just like... I love Ryan so much yeah well he's having a bad time right now he's just like it's insane people just everybody is just going about their business like it's totally normal. That's what I've seen I wouldn't want to be on the mainland no one's wearing masks everyone's just it's like everyone just got sick of it so they're like yeah fuck it's just like it's just back to normal. Yeah it's genuinely like they they they they they they they they they they they they the they they they they they th. th. th. It's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi the thi thi thi thi thi It's genuinely like they said, this is boring now. I feel like I'm going fucking crazy any time I look at any of the reports about the US. Just like, I am not a medical health professional, obviously. I don't work in fucking public health or anything.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm not in the government. I'm not, I'm not, maybe there is shit that I am not privy to, that the people making making making making making the people making the people making the people making the people making the people people making thiiike, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I, their, their, their, their, thi, thr-a, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, their, their, their, to that the people making decisions over there have seen that makes any of this make sense. But like, if no efforts are being made to curtail this, what the fuck happens? Are we just riding the lower 48 off entirely? That's it. Just America's just gone. Pretty much. That's kind of where it seems to be going.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Well, can I read to you this headline from NBC News yesterday that I saw? Yeah, all right. Go on. White House Ready's new message for the nation on coronavirus. We need to live with it. Would die with it more likely. Yeah. So this is from NBC.
Starting point is 00:25:59 After several months of mixed messages on the coronavirus pandemic, the White House is settling on a new one. Learn to live with it. The administration officials are planning to intensify what they hope they're sharper and less conflicting message of the pandemic next week. Oh God, because they've just been flying back and forth between like, it's not a real thing, it doesn't really matter, having to wear a mask is infringing on your cool freedoms. Uh-huh. Has anybody seen like the videos of like you know Greg Abbott the governor in Texas saying like no the masks actually give you more freedom like the only way that they can talk about stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oh that's quaint that's adorable. Yeah and the only way that they can like phrase things is in terms of like... No it's not taking away your freedoms it's's giving you some extra freedoms to not die so much. Just chuck an American flag on it, you know, and all that be said. Yeah, he posted this video on his like official Twitter account and there were just hundreds of replies from Texans being like, fuck you, thanks for giving in, pal. I will never give up my freedom and wear a mask. And then all the people saying,
Starting point is 00:27:11 well, that conflicts with my Second Amendment rights because I'm allowed to open carry my gun in Texas, but if I cover my face and wear a mask, I can't open carry my gun. So I'm going to not wear a lask and keep carry my gun. So I'm going to not wear a mask and keep carrying my gun. Wow. What a choice. I know. What a choice?
Starting point is 00:27:29 That video of the, um, it's a guy at like, I don't know, it's a town hall meeting or some shit, middle age guy just doing the most dramatic reading of why he shouldn't wear a mask. Just be up there be like, I will not be muzzled like a dog. You're just like, Jesus Christ, man, it's a fucking mask. You're going to be okay. I mean, these people absolutely have a brain disease, but I think it's also important to like note that the reason that it's so bad over here is for things like, people don't have sick leave, people don't have health care. Most people just have to go to work and like there's obviously these insane
Starting point is 00:28:05 French people that just want their freedom or whatever but for the most part half of those people want their freedom because they can't earn money any other way and we got like $1,200 once two and a half months ago. You're telling me that 1200 dollar check that some people eventually got isn't fighting everyone over forever? This is the thing that I'm struggling with is that I am trying to be more empathetic anytime I see these sorts of people going off because like it's fucking cheesy as shit to say but like they're not bad people right they're not people who are waking up in the morning and being like I am going to spread a lethal disease so that I kill people.
Starting point is 00:28:45 You know, this is, these people are genuinely scared. They're fucking terrified of what's happening. The way that they see the world is from a bunch of really fucked news sources, because they're not particularly media literate. Like, there are so many reasons why people have ended up at this viewpoint, that you're just like like, the the the the the their their their their their they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, they're they're tho, they're tho, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're I get, I don't know, it's hard. I'm trying to just keep in mind that they're not bad. They've just been put in a position where they genuinely believe they are being forced to do this stuff because of bullshit reasons.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And I know it is a failure of government messaging because it benefits right-wing media and right-wing government to sort of keep these people in the dark and scared of everything and that that has led us to this point where people are literally dying because of it. But then also you'll see a video of a woman at a supermarket throwing all her groceries on the floor because she wouldn't put on a mask and they weren't going to let her buy stuff. And so your first reaction is to be like, ha ha, look at this dumb fuck. And then you're like, oh shit, oh fuck, we're going to fucking die. To be clear, while acknowledging the wider reasons that this country is the way
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Starting point is 00:30:38 gnashing at each other. But I think externally it's worth like noting, you know, we've just pledged to shell out $270 billion extra in defense in Australia and for the reason given is for a quote unquote dangerous post-Covid 19 world, right? And I'm sure there's going to be lots more kind of said on this in the coming weeks because it is a mind-boggling amount of money. It's approximately twice as much as we started giving back in tax relief to rich people. Or because it's Australia, will we never talk about it again at all? That's well, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:21 But it's hard not to read this, at least least initially as a post-American hegemony world. Right? Well, did you see the reason the government actually gave? Like the press release type reason for saying we need $270 billion worth of long-range missiles? Yeah, because of... Sorry, you go, yeah. Oh, it was it was to prepare to keep ourselves safe in a in a more dangerous, poorer world, yes. Post-Covid 19. And they go on that we need stronger deterrence capabilities as the the Indo-Pacific becomes the
Starting point is 00:31:55 focus of the dominant global contest of our of our age. So effectively governments are already having a look at what they need to do as insurance in a world where you know America is not necessarily a dominant force and look I'm not going to say that that is that that's what's going to happen or it's going to happen as dramatically as as you know as that but insurance policies are starting to be taken out. And so the concept of, like, I think people are really looking at the idea that America may come out of this extremely poorly.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So. Well, it's hard to see what the alternative to that is at this point, because, I mean, we can see already that there are, since getting to this point of, well, this has kind of gone on for long enough, a whole bunch of us aren't being given any alternative and we have to go to work if we want to pay rent and stay alive and all that sort of thing. And then you also have, what I would imagine is the, more of a minority of people who are saying, no, it's really important that I go to like Palm Springs for Springbake or whatever. Like, you know, it's, it's nightmarish to all of us to watch those videos of people like in New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:33:17 like packed in in the street being like, hey, I've sat around and done nothing for weeks and now it's time to party. Oh God, and it's so frustrating. I mean, we're having like a second wave here and almost all of it can be traced to people having gatherings in their houses. Like people thinking that you can't go out to a bar but thinking that you can have 30 of your friends over at your house. And like arguably a bar is probably a better space to have better, but people just have their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thathea that thathea thi that, and thi thi thi and thi and thi and the the. And thi and thi and thi and th. And th. And th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and thi that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that to that to to to to that that that that that that that that thi thi thi th high ceilings and air conditioning which are better spaced out better but people just have their family and friends over and they're hugging and kissing and kissing each other on the mouth I assume because they're spreading COVID.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And and yeah so that question does become what is next and from the rest of the world's point of view what is next is everybody continuing to flatten the curves in their own country to prop up their medical infrastructure to a point where they can look after people and then to slowly open up interstate and international travel and everyone's going to slowly do that and leave America out of it. It's all just going to have a big cross over America on the map of places you can go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the clau. the clau. the clau. their their to to the clau. to to to to to to slowly do that and leave America out of it. It's all just going to have a big cross over America on the map of places you can go to and places people can come here from. Right, and that's going to be there for a long time.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I don't think Americans are going to be traveling anywhere anytime. They can set up like a kind of twinning arrangement with Brazil. They can set up like a twinning twinning twin' twin' twin twin the the th. Twin twin th. Twin twin the th. Twinning th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. They th. They th. They th. They can th. They can th. They can thin' thi. They can set up. They're to thi. They can set thoom, tho. They tho. They tho. They're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're th. They're to th. They're the. They're the. They're the. thea. thea. thea. thea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. thea. They can't thea. They're to th start to swap some tourists. Oh man, congrat in Brazil. The famous Come to Brazil campaign. Well because I follow the UFC stuff, it's also interesting to see how like somebody just got pulled from a headlining a card, a Brazilian guy because he tested positive for COVID and so it's this constant thing of them saying yeah yeah we're totally putting all these measures in place to do everything really well and then at intervals it's just like oh this fight got pulled from this card because the person's entire corner tested positive for COVID.
Starting point is 00:35:19 So you know they're just trying to kind of push ahead with it. And even then, that's in like an individual sport. That's not like how they keep trying to keep the AFL going. It's like, why? What if we just didn't have the football for a bit? Yeah, what if we just didn't? But yeah, I think a lot, like from the outside looking in, it is definitely very easy to feel extremely worried about America at this point as like, I think that they've
Starting point is 00:35:57 shown that they've sufficiently gutted all programs that had any semblance of kind of a welfare state to a point where they are just not meeting the needs of people and they don't have the ability to meet the needs of people. They've made very clear that they won't actually be doing anything about that. I mean those stimulus checks didn't even go out to everybody. Yeah and people this people still don't have their unemployment checks as well. Most a lot of people can't even access unemployment because it's unemployment insurance.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So if you weren't employed at the time you can't get it and all these ridiculous things. Jesus, fuck. And I think that there, I think that it's a real demonstration of, I guess, you know, where we're saying that there are people out there who are like, I'm not going to do this because of my freedoms, because that's the only way that they have left to express any kind of control over themselves of their lives or anything. But you can also see the complete inability or unwillingness of the government
Starting point is 00:36:59 to respond in any effective way to this. I just think it's very representative of that kind of long breakdown of even just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the the the the the the the the this. I just think it's very representative of that kind of long breakdown of even just the concept of like civic society, like just the concept of, hey, there's some stuff that you're supposed to do because it's kind of good for everyone. Right, this is just such an evident like bearing everything wrong with America in terms of what individualism can't accomplish. Like you can destroy your country by being like that and I don't see things going back to normal after this. It is the natural final extension of gun control laws being rejected because well, you know, if we have less guns around so that not so many people can do school shootings, then I probably won't have as many guns for me and that's not going to fly.
Starting point is 00:37:55 If we have universal health care, if we have single payer health care where anybody can just go and get health, that will require everyone to put money into the big bucket and I might be paying for something for someone else instead of for myself and fuck that. There's just all these, all these things where for a big chunk of the country the entire political ideology has been turned into being asked to think about someone who isn't yourself is an abdication of your own rights. And it's not going great. See American experience. I think that sticks in my mind a lot thinking about this sort of stuff is that it's a very dumb thing to think about
Starting point is 00:38:37 it's fucking the internet but I got into an argument with this woman on Twitter once as I do nearly every day of my life about I think I feel like Theo you were also tagged in that the thread for the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet th. I th. I the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet th of th of th of th of th of of of of th of of of of of of of of th. th. th. th. I threat of threat of threat. I threat. I threat. I threat. I'm threat. I'm threat. I'm threat. I'm threat. I'm threat. I'm the of threat. I'm threat. I'm the of threat. I'm the of as I do nearly every day of my life about, I think, I feel like Theo you were also tagging in that thread for some reason. It was a woman in the States talking about, you know, some margar person being like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I just sort of repeatedly was sarcastically being like, yeah, it sucks when you can make sure other people are healthy and get to live whatever because I like annoying people for fun because I'm a horrible person. I do remember this this conversation because I was like yeah it really sucks being able to just go to the doctor
Starting point is 00:39:15 that's nearest to you and then it's free and then you just walk out and she said, you're lying. Oh, Barbara. The thing that stuck with me about that was that she was like, well, you know, if someone in our community got sick or need to go to hospital or whatever, we would like pull our income to look after them. Like, that's what it is. We could already do that. It is enjoyable seeing people like slowly arrive at the same solutions.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Which I mean we were obviously smuggly trying to point out to her, but I think the thing that stuck with me is that impulse is the same right. This desire to help the people in your community to support each other where you can is still there. Like it's just fucking this... Right, like they'll still donate to charities and like children's hospitals and tho-s. Because the children's the children's the children's the the children's their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th th. It isn't th. It isn't th-s th-s th-s th-s tho' tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. thoom-s. thoom-s. thoom-s. thoom-s. thoes. thoes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. te. te. te. te. true. too. too. too. ttttrue. tttrue. true. ttrue. true. true. true. true. true. tt and like children's hospitals and things like that because the children's hospital isn't funded by the government. I just don't think it's like, it's not personal selfishness. It's this way that like, culture war has transmuted all of these things into like, something that follows the natural instinct you would do normally, right, to help out the people around you by giving what you can, expanding that to the whole country or your whole state or whatever suddenly becomes the most evil thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You know, it's slavery to make doctors work for public health care somehow, whatever. But that kernel, that idea of wanting to help people is still there. I just fucking, I think about this all the time that 't extend, not can't, but have just not extended that thought one step further. And it's so hard, even to talk to people here that are like liberal, you know, that don't quite think that like Medicare for all would work. And it's just so frustrating. It's like talking to a brick wall about it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It's like you can explain in every way that it'll cost less because you're paying taxes and you're not paying your insurance company and stuff and there's just like something innate that they don't want to listen to. But then who's going to be paying for insurance? Exactly. The insurance companies will go broke and they've got families to feed right? We'll just be sitting on the corners, street corners like little urchins. But the counterpoint to this as well is the assess your income governor. That the polling for support for like Medicare for All in America shows that it's way wider than anyone would think. It's that like you know what was, I don't have the statistics at hand, but it was like a surprising chunk of Republican voters supported as well. It's this idea that what's elevated by actual people with political platforms is these
Starting point is 00:41:47 talking points that are taken as a given that they represent the voter base, you know, that like, it's just assumed that every single Republican voter is like, no, I don't want to get free hospital treatment or whatever. It's hard to keep that in mind because the way politics work as we let one in every 25,000 people talk about it and we assume they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they represent they the way politics work is we let like one in every 25,000 people talk about it and we assume they represent the other 24,999 people. It's exhausting. It sure is.
Starting point is 00:42:16 It's very depressing. Like you said, there is obviously some very fundamental disconnect between, I guess, as soon as you take that money that everybody is pulling together and say, the government is now providing insurance to you, then that's terrible when you have the government just giving something to everybody. And also, if you are to receive that from the government, then that's you saying, I'm sticking out my hand and letting the big milky tit of the government feed me. Right. It's like all these people that are like, I don't want to get an unemployment check, I want
Starting point is 00:42:53 to get back to work and die from COVID. Yeah, but that's like, again, the thing that is puzzling about that is, it's like, it's like, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, thi. the, thi. the, thi. the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, they. they. I's, that's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I. I's, thin. thin. thin. the. today. today, today, today, today, today, thi. that's great and you should absolutely be able to do that. You have the freedom to do that if you want. But you should also have the option to not die. When you can't immediately get back to work for reasons that are outside of your control. Just the idea that health care is not a right, it's a luxury is absolutely insane to me. Like I cannot deal with it and it's just such a common attitude here that health care is not a right, it's something you work for. Oh, very puzzling. I just thought that it would be worth delving into that for a minute while we be moaned
Starting point is 00:43:38 the 108 new cases in 24 hours in Victoria, which, you know, within the context of the Australian news is surprising and a really big, a really big new burst of cases, but... It's not good. In the context of countries that are not doing well right now, not great. At least there should be a ventilator for you. Yay. Luxury. So the Andrews government, just to wrap this up, announced on Sunday that the rent would be that the rent that th, and a that th, and that th, and a th, and a th, and a that th, and a th, and a th, and a th, and a there should be a ventilator for you. Yay. Luxury. So the Andrews government, just to wrap this up, announced on Sunday that rent would
Starting point is 00:44:09 be waived for two weeks and support payments would be made to residents. Quote, those who are employed and because of the hard lockdown cannot go to work will receive a $1,500 hardship payment. Andrew said, for those households where no one is in employment, they will receive a $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $. th. th. th. th. th. thuuu. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's thi. thi. thus. thus. that thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to thea. thea. thea. the. the for those households where no one is in employment, they will receive a $750 hardship payment. It's cool how you need half as much money if you don't have a job. Yeah, I thought that was real fucking weird. Yeah, that makes sense. That's very strange. And yeah, so this just came out just before we started recording. I think he gave a press conference, but as of last night, the ABC had an article up where they'd spoken to a bunch of people who by last night had still not heard from anyone. They hadn't had any people tell them what the situation was,
Starting point is 00:44:57 they hadn't had any food or anything dropped around. At that point it had been like 18 hours or whatever since they'd been able to leave the building. There was another story in an ABC article about someone who asked if they're able to get food delivered. And they asked one of the cops stationed in the thing. The policeman was like, yep, as long as it's contactless. And then the delivery person rocked up and was not allowed inside the building and couldn't do the delivery. So like, it's just been, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the, the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as their, as their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the delivery person rocked up and was not allowed inside the building and couldn't do the delivery. So like, it's just been, like imagine being those people. It's fucking terrifying. Yeah. It's the big judge dread locker.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Mmm. Good stuff. Good stuff. Everything sucks. Yeah, and I would just like to make a note as well that like Daniel Andrews, I think, is considered by a lot of people to be like one of the good labor leaders, you know, the good state. He's definitely one of the better ones. He's one of the better ones.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But I can still acknowledge that he's terrible. Yes, I think, I think it's just very important to stick to the idea that people, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi it's just very important to stick to the idea that people, you know, like doing reasonable stuff a bunch of the time does not get you a free pass to just do stuff like this without being questioned on it because if you look at the various social media accounts for Dan Andrews announcing this stuff, it's just comment after comment after comment of like Victorian labor voter saying, thank you so much for doing the right thing and stepping in and making these tough decisions that don't impact me.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And yeah, just all these people who are very willing to explain away why this is happening to these specific communities and not to the other very large apartment buildings and hotels within the same areas. People are like just a little too keen to give Dan the big free pass on it. I even saw somebody saying like, oh he wouldn't do anything bad. He loves making liberal people mad. And I was like, what are you fucking talking about? I was making the liberals mad.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And I'm like, yeah, that's what running a state is. Picking off your enemies. That's all that we should be fixated on is, has this appropriately pissed off the liberals? It's like, why, who even gives a fuck about that? If some IPA chud is angry, you know you're doing the right thing. That's right. What do you dictate it in? Yeah, and it's just, it's, it is continually frustrating how, how willing like a lot of quite unquot progressive voters are to just say, oh, well, as long as, you know, it's keeping my side out in front, th..... th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you, thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're, you're, you're, you thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th, you th, you th, you th, you th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th th thin, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, oh, well, as long as it's keeping my side out in front,
Starting point is 00:47:47 then it gets an enthusiastic cosign from me. Yeah. Big bunch of clowns. Clowns everywhere, mostly in parliament. Most in parliament. But we have, we have talked about the clowns in Victoria. But of course, we must also talk about the clowns in Victoria, but of course we must also talk about the clowns in their rival state of New South Wales, which we also all hate.
Starting point is 00:48:13 The New South Wales police, the police we all love to hate the most, back in the news for a bit of a dose of, This is the one thing we didn't want to happen. Now this is from the Daily Telegraph and you might read this headline to think to yourself hey this is a bit of a funny Benny Hill type situation. I don't know. Okay. I know that I would but sure. It's a little bit funny actually. New South Wales Drug Squad Detectives have homes rated by fellow police. You know, you might be thinking...
Starting point is 00:48:50 You're picturing this sort of people opening doors in hallways and then coming out of different doors type situation. Yeah, yeah, it's all cops just going in and out and catching each other and then going, wait a minute, you're also a police? And then someone's being chased by a woman in suspenders. Yep. Yep. Yep. Very sped-up footage, you know. Turns out it's not that funny.
Starting point is 00:49:16 So from the Daily Sellegriaths, state crime, command, drug squad detectives have had their homes rated as part of a misconduct investigation into allegations that they created a drug syndicate and manufactured drugs to entrap criminals. Noddy. That's terrible. We must stop the proliferation of drugs but first we must proliferate drugs. Let me let me just let's take a quick straw poll here. Anybody, put your hand up if you are a cop hosting this show? Anybody? No?
Starting point is 00:49:54 You wouldn't be able to see if I was. Yeah, I would be legally obligated to tell you if you asked me. It's true. It's entrapment, bro. So, no cops hosting the show. How many of us know that you're not legally allowed to manufacture and distribute large quantities of narcotics? I do know that. But I know that it's legal to do crimes when you're a cop. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:50:21 The Daily Telegraph understands that attempted prosecutions brought on by the New South Wales Drug Squad unraveled when police methodology was questioned. You hate it when they started questioning the methodology. Ah, that's the worst. The last time we were talking about questioning police methodology was when the police were asked, hey, do you know if you're actually supposed to strip search a child alone without a guardian or a lawyer present or anything? And they all said, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:50:52 The way I'm picturing this going is that they are standing in a court and said, and we know they're guilty because they bought the drugs off us that we made. The judge just being like, hmm, I'm sorry? The one? They bought our that one? Hmm. They bought our drugs. Oh fuck. Fuck. New Southwest police last night confirmed the launch of Strike Force Dominion.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Come on. That's so lame. Come on. Come on. Come on. Fniunion. That is, oh man. Just imagine, like, thinking that up in the shower, like, with them just standing there in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in their in that up in the shower like with them just standing there in the shower with their sad looking penis going we could call it strike force dominion
Starting point is 00:51:33 second yourself up being like I'm gonna say it in the meeting tomorrow I'm gonna present my idea just before I say as well yes this will be undertaken as part of strike force dominion. I think you need two pauses, actually. You've got to say undertaken as part of strike force, dominion. And then you like, fuck, fumble on your shitty Android to press play on a corn song, right as you're about to say it. So, uh, so they're making a silly, silly named launch to investigate the conduct of senior
Starting point is 00:52:09 Drug Squad Police. Quote, state crime command have referred a matter to the Professional Standards Command for further investigation. A New South Wales spokesman said in a statement, strike force dominion. Has been established by professional standards command and remains an ongoing investigation. The Drug Squad conduct investigations into organized criminal networks involved in the supply, distribution and production of illegal drugs and weapons. The Daily Telegraphs The drug squad detectives face accusations of encouraging, little scarequotes, criminal behavior by setting up a drug syndicate and actually manufacturing the drugs. At what stage do you think of just hanging out in a warehouse and cooking up a big vat of meth?
Starting point is 00:52:58 All right boys, sorry, there's too many drugs on the street. Now, Only one solution. It's going to seem a bit weird to begin with, but stick with me. What if we made more drugs? Ourselves. I've just pulled up the wiki how on how to make meth. And I think I have a beautiful plan. Have you seen the margin on meth?
Starting point is 00:53:21 People seem to love this stuff. We could hire so many cops to track down drugs. Love lapping as a drug manufacturer. So much fun. Oh man. Going so far as to manufacture drugs is understood to be unprecedented in police operations. Well, yeah. Unless you're the CIA.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I was going to say unprecedented in police operations as in the ones they put on themselves. I don't know if it's unprecedented in terms of cops selling drugs. There are now serious questions about whether this operation was legal even if it was authorized. Listen, I went to law school for one semester and I can tell you that I don't think that it was legal. Sources said the methodology of the detectives can be described as similar to entrapment. If I cut someone's head off with a sword, I believe I will be describing that as similar to murder. It's certainly an act that exhibits all of the typical markers of murder. Yes, yes. Right. This is rife with the hallmarks of murder.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Analogous to murder. So what if you're doing this to somehow track down the Highlanders? Yeah, well I mean you've got to start somewhere, you know. It's like I want to see, I want to see the quickening happening. Ideally, it'll happen to me. Do it somewhere like, I would not want the quickening to happen like in my house. Sure, we all know what happens during the quickening. All the windows on cars explode, lightning starts coming out of your pipes. Yep, all your appliances will blow up, sparks shooting out everywhere. I dare say every pain in the glass, every pain of glass in the house is going to shatter
Starting point is 00:55:10 outwards. A lot of steam and everything. And then who's got to sweep all that up afterwards, you know? Ideally you want the quick thing to happen in an underground car park near some sort of stadium? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Um, or I guess the other bad thing that can happen is if you cut someone's head off in your home and the quickening doesn't happen. You would fucking hate to be a little later. Oh no, it was just a weird French guy. He wasn't a model at all.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Just, just standing there with my sword as the blood pulls on the floor, looking at my watch. The one thing I didn't want to happen. Just looking at my watch and kind of looking around the room. They should call it the slowening. Yeah. Oh no. Was the one thing I didn't want to happen. And some might describe that as having a few similarities to murder. New South Wales police would not comment about the use of entrapment in police investigations saying police methodology was not something that could be publicly discussed.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Oh we'd hate that. Yeah, you'd hate for them to be a secret. Yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to say anything about that just for them to be a secret. Yeah we're not gonna we're not gonna say anything about that just for the reasons that it would be super fucking incriminating for us. It would make us sound very bad and not smart so there's no reason for us to talk about it. Let's not get into who can or can't do what when they're being the police. That's for us to say. Police can have secrets they're allowed to okay. They don't owe you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the you you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police the police to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their their their their th their th th th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to, they're allowed to, okay? They don't owe you anything. They don't owe you an explanation.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Manufacturing drugs is self-care. That's the tea. One source said, you can't set it up and then say they are supplying drugs when you're the ones creating the drugs. That's so true. Real chicken in the egg scenario here. Who's to say where the drugs? you you you you you you you you you the drugs?? the drugs? the drugs? the drugs? I the drugs they they they they they to they to to to to to to to say? I to say? I to say? I to say? I to say to say to say to say to say to to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the drugs the drugs the drugs. I the drugs. I tho the the the the the the the. the. the. the. to say the to say to tho to chicken and the egg scenario here. Who's to say where the drugs really came from? I say with my big wooden spoon and that.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I can't stop thinking about just the actual police in this like room making these drugs. Wearing a like kiss the chef apron. Wearing their like breaking bad merchandise. I guarantee their drugs are dog shit too. Oh, they'd be terrible, right? Oh, boy. Well, I mean, they've spent the last 40 years convincing everybody in the world that meth is actually cooked in the world's worst-looking toilet.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Right. So they just have to reproduce the process. Hundreds of millions of millions of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollars of dollarsthe process. Hundreds of millions of dollars of Australian government money have gone into giving everyone the idea that ecstasy is like the only way to get it is to pull a tablet out of a toilet. Yeah, the primary ingredient is just diarrhea. Wait, have you guys got another way to get it? Every time I go to a pub, they just... Hey, I just got to run to the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom the bathroom their their their their their their their their tha their their thriarche thtime I go to a pub, I just... Hey, I just got to run to the bathroom. Fishing around in the train, spotting.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah, and I come back out, every time we go to the pub, first thing I do run into the toilet, and then I come back out, like rolling my sleeves back down, I'm like, never mind. One day, you know, one day, it's going to be my lucky day. 100 times the charm. Oh boy. So, uh, shockingly, the conduct of these detectives is now the subject of internal police scrutiny. The detectives stand accused of bungling the sting. I hate to bungle the sting. Oh, that's the title of like a mid-90s. Oh, it sure is. Mid-90s heist-fars.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Or it's when Mike Patton does covers of police songs. Hey! That's good I liked it. Thanks. Thank you. Both a good joke and a good idea. The detective stand accused of bungling this thing and overstepping the mark in their attempt to catch drug dealers to the point that they facilitated a crime. It's like that time that I was just sort of feeling out that whole the quickening thing and I overstepped the mark.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Well now we know. Now we know for next time. Next time. So, you know, hopefully that's going to help with cleaning up the streets. And when it comes to cleaning up, nothing better than a hot shower. Shut up. Nothing better than a hot shower, that's right. We have been talking about, you know, being stuck inside during the coronavirus times, whether you are being forcefully detained in your apartment block by lots of Victorian police, or you are being forcefully contained in a drug manufacturing lab as you set up your own syndicate.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Or you're having to work from home all the time, you know? Here's a story from The Guardian about a municipal councillor in northern Spain who has offered to resign after inadvertently broadcasting video of himself showering during an online council meeting that was being live streamed Excuse how did this happen? Come on. Well, let me explain to you. Earlier this week, councillors in Torrela Vega gathered online to hash out some of the
Starting point is 01:00:39 latest issues facing the municipality of some 52,000 people. That place sounds sexy. It does. Torrela sexy. Torrela Vega. Torre la Vega. Following the protocols put in places the coronavirus tightened its grip on Spain. Pretty sexy. Yeah. Half a dozen councillors dialed into the video chat at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 01:00:57 streaming it online for journalists and residents. As the meeting stretched past midday, damn, it's a long meeting. Break it up, you know. Bernado Bastillo, who works part-time with the municipality, began to fret that he wouldn't have time to shower and shuttle his daughter to her commitments before heading to his other job as a swim instructor. All right, first of all, this guy sounds so hot. He sounds so sexy. Bernardo Bastilo of Toila Vega. Who has to go off to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go the other to go their their their their their their their their their their tho. thi. thi. tho. tho. Bost. B. Bost. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. ta. ta. tsoa. ta. tsoa. ta. ta. tha. tha. I. I. I. Iillo, Toro la Vega.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Who has to go off to his other job as a swim instructor? Come on. Very good. Oh, I must get into my speedo. He came up with what seemed to him the perfect solution to multitask, hauling the computer into the bathroom, and minimizing the chat screen. I love this. So that he could listen in on the meeting as he shall.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I love it. I love it. I can't see it. It's perfect. How does he think it works? Truly perfect. Bernardo, wonderful hymbo. He's an absolute hymbo for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Unfortunately it didn't extend to turning the computer away from himself. Just slowly putting him moving his hand downwards over its camera like he's trying to put a chicken to sleep. So, um, but like a 2020 specific anxiety dream, as his colleagues considered plans to clean up a local river, an image of him showering appeared on the bottom left of the screen, much of a blurred by a pain of frosted glass. Oh, you got one of those sexy showers. Yeah. The sound of running water drowned out the constant ringing of his mobile phone as frantic colleagues
Starting point is 01:02:50 tried to warn him that the camera was still rolling. Oh Bernardo. Oh a wave of discomfort rippled across the video chat as he got out of the shower. Say something to Bernie, say something to him quickly. One colleague could be heard saying, another asked, we can't disconnect him or something? The mayor swiftly took control, bringing an end to the meeting. Why do you take to the end of the shower? You know why?
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's a great mayor though. What are the civic responsibilities of a mayor, you know, looking after its citizens, making sure you don't show your nude ass to the world. Making an executive decision, beautiful. That's a powerful mayor. My goodness. As video of the incident made the rounds online, Bastido took to social media saying he was at quote complete peace with what had transpired. Love it. Absolute king shit. So what? You saw my balls.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Who gives a fuck? Who cares? He stressed that it had been an innocent accident, a failure of technological knowhow rather than anything nefarious. He's far from the only cautionary tale on the perils of remote working. Last month, Irish MEP Luke Ming Flanagan beamed out images himself without trousers on to the European Parliament's official live broadcast after positioning his iPad in portrait rather than
Starting point is 01:04:13 landscape mode after hastily throwing on a shirt after a run. That's so good. That is so good. Donald Duck and it is European Parliament. It's definitely the most perverted way to be nude. It is. It is. Really is. It's, um, I think it's like, like a, you know, like a shirt or a sweater or something, and nothing can be quite sexy on a lady.
Starting point is 01:04:43 On a man? Absolute perversion. No. Absolutely. We need to purring it. Picture, picture if you will, an adult man. T-shirt, socks. Nothing else. I don't want to. This is unpleasant to me. It's bad, I would say the socks are worse. If you were just like a shirt and no bottoms, pretty bad. A shirt? Oh no. But socks? Awful. It's just the fucking worst. I have to admit, I wear socks 24-7 year-round, including all. I feel like if I saw you walking around the house just in socks and nothing else I would divorce you. If I was Caitlin. We're not married currently. And she is a saint, obviously. Bostillo chalked the incident up to the pandemic era struggle of balancing remote work with parenting. Anecdotes of this kind have become commonplace in recent weeks,
Starting point is 01:05:38 thanks to the boom in teleworking, he said, apologizing to anyone who might have been upset by the images. He added that his experience as a swim instructor, swim instructor had left him comfortable with his body. I've spent half of my life, half naked. And I've never been ashamed of nudity whether my own or that of others, he said. Very European, very cool. But also that's not the half of you that's normally naked.
Starting point is 01:06:01 So sexy. I cannot help but regret that the end of my political life has to do with my nakedness which isn't a big deal. He planned this all along. He was like how the fuck do I get out of this council thing? I'm sick of it. I really want to retire but I also want everyone to know that I am packing a giant hog. How do I combine the two? That's right. Wonderful stuff. You've got to respect it. It's very vivid. I feel like I'm reading a romance novel just hearing about it. And I'm in love with him. Squirely. Well, like, I absolutely think that that is basically the best way you could possibly handle having done that is to go, oh everybody's dickers out sometimes, sorry everyone. You know like you can't... Right you can't be embarrassed you can't go to own
Starting point is 01:06:54 interest and I don't think that you can do like a like a celebrity notes app groveling apology about all the people you've hurt kind of thing. I just think you gotta do that one, you gotta be like, yes, nudity, part of life, we're in Europe. Everybody in Spain. I'm European. If this happened in the Netherlands, no one would have even noticed. Time to take off some of my clothes and go to my other job. You know? Shout out to you, Bernado, and I'm fortunate in to to to to to to to to to to to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, Bernardo, an unfortunate end to your political career, but let's hope he gets a revival at some point, you know. I think that's it for this week, everybody. Thank you for stopping by and listening. We're going to keep like wedging and
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