Boonta Vista - EPISODE 182: Ragin' Cagin' 2: Prisoner Of Love

Episode Date: January 17, 2021

Bad news: the extremely hackable Internet of Things chastity device has been hacked. Andrew, Lucy, and Ben talk through this plus the Korean government's advice for keeping pregnant women fuckable, an...d Pete Evans' future political career.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to ista episode 182. I'm Andrew and I'm here with my co-hosts at a COVID safe orgy. Most of the people around me are wearing face shields and full body PPE with a convenient hole cut out of the crotch. Strutting around with a V though, naked as the day she was born and interrogating strangers about the passenger capacity of a fully loaded Airbus A380, it's Lucy. Yeah, look, I'm not really sure what this orgy is. I think this is what you do at one. I'm enjoying myself.
Starting point is 00:00:59 You just, you've got to find the guy with the right answer, you know? That's right, that's that's that's that's that's thuuuing that's that's thu thu thu, you're thu, you're thu, you're thu, you're thu, you're thu, you're the thu, you're thu, you're tho, you're tho, tho, the the tho, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the. theean, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, tha, the with the right answer, you know? That's right, that's what I came here for in my crotchless PPE. That's what everyone at an orgy is looking for, the one right person. That's right. That's right. Of course, standing near me, you know, I'm standing by the buffet, coughing directly into the room temperature crab dip. And Neme is my friend, he's wearing a captain's hat and a plush robe which he is refusing to remove despite the pleading of several men and women. It's Ben and Ben seems a little uncomfortable emanating from his robe the clanking sounds of metal and a series of beeps. How's it going Ben? It's nothing to worry about. It's not any business. Sometimes you go to an an-a and to keep the they and they and they and they and theyn' theyn' theyn' theyn' theyn' theyn' theyn' theyn' theyn't their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toe is toe is theiring is theiring is theiring is theiring is theiring is theiring is theiring is theiring. theirin' is theirin' is theirin' is theirin' is theirin' is theirn' their their their their their their their their their their their their the.e.eat.eat.eat.eat.eat.eat.eat.eat.eat.eateat. teat. teat.eat. teat. teat. toeat. their their's nothing to worry about. It's not your business.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Sometimes you go to an orgia and you keep your robe on, that's fine. Any reason you won't take it off and there's a beeping coming from down there? I mean, things beep. Things beep all the time. I don't, I'm not asking you about what you've got going to have some of that prawn cocktail that you got over there, but I saw he sneeze onto it, so I probably not going to do that. You don't want to just pop that robe off? No, no, no. If anything, I might go put a second robe on. I'm just feeling robes right now.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I'm very into robes. Why is there food? Are they food? one's got to keep their energy up, you know? You need low GI foods, or high GI foods. I don't really know anything about. A mix of the two, you really need a well-rounded orgy diet. A lot of water, you've got to stay hydrated. There is the traditional cooler full of Gatorade. Yeah. What flavor are we going with?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Orange ice, which wouldn't have been my choice personally. The orange flavor of the, the Rades, the Gatorades and the Power Raids, is by far the worst. That's where you're wrong. Gold Rush, Power Raid, Gold Rush is the ultimate drink. That's the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard of my life and never say that again on this podcast. Go out and buy some Gold Rush. Oh, hideous. I like a nice purple gatorade or parade. Interesting choice. You're both making the choices of a child.
Starting point is 00:03:11 These are children's choice of power of gatory flavors. Lay the big grown-up gatorade flavor on it. Well, a real grown-up, sick of this sugary nonsense you guys are getting, gets the lemon lime flavor. It's so refreshing. It's nature's refreshment. You don't find purple drinks in nature. You do find lemons in nature. That's so true. It's basically a health food. I'm here for blue. I want blue flavor. The blue is pretty good actually. Yeah, I endorse the blue. I back the boy on this.
Starting point is 00:03:42 There's something to be said for athis line. There's something to be said for like specifically you know those I'm doing air quotes sports drinks the ones that claim to return the electrolytes to your body. There's something kind of nice about the way that they just go fuck it whatever colors any colors any colors are fine. It tastes like something. Drink it. And not even like a specific thing that like the flavor is called like Arctic Wolf. Yeah. Okay, but what does it task like? It's Arctic wolf. Just get it. It doesn't matter. And they're brave enough to just have it sit in there and clear bottles.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So you can see ahead of time what you are going to be ingesting. Unlike, you know, say the cowards and mountain dew who have made the most... They're trying to hide what color the drink is for sure. Yeah, they've made the most radioactive looking drink on the planet. And then they're like, well, what if we just put it in an opaque green bottle, and then you don't know the true nature of the mountain to you until it's too late. The true nature of the mountain to you. It's like if you decant Red Bull into a glass, and you're like, oh, that's an unhealthy person's piss. Yeah, I was gonna say Red Bull really looks like what your piss will look like if you drink nothing but Red Bull,
Starting point is 00:04:56 so it makes sense. Circle of life, you know. You sure you don't want to pop that that that that that that that that the rope the rope the rope to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop to pop that the the to pop that that tho tho tho tho tho tho thoom tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo You sure you don't want to pop that robe off? Nope. Because the problem is, if you are found to be MVP of the orgy, which has happened to you many times, that's true. We are going to give you the traditional, you know, dunking of the gatorade. We are going to pour that the might work in my favour at this point.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Why? It might short circuit my cellmate. Nice. Hey, did you just get a text message? No, that beeping is unrelated. So, to learn a little more about Ben's cellmate, clamped firmly around his penis, one might need to go back to episode 170 of this podcast, Rage and Cajun, in which we talked about an internet-connected chastity cage called Cellmate, which, I don't know, did we decide
Starting point is 00:06:02 of the time it was meant to be like a cutesy pun of soulmate? Except it's also like a prison term for your dick? Yeah, I'm not really sure that they nailed that one. No, there's nothing kind, there's no positive connotation of cellmate to me, other than like my cellmate has not stabbed me yet. You know? Maybe you made a lifelong friendship with a cellmate has not stabbed me yet. You know? Maybe you made a lifelong friendship with a cellmate. Who knows? And then he locks your dick in a cage.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Maybe. So this was an internet-connected chastity cage. The idea being that somebody, you know, your mistress or your dom or whatever could remotely activate and deactivate your dick cage. I guess for the people who are into that kind of thing, it's so that like, I don't know, you can go to the office and once every four hours someone can remotely say I'm taking it off for five minutes so that you can do a piss and then you have to put it back on you naughty boy I assume this one has a like a pee it's got a piss hole you can piss while you
Starting point is 00:07:14 are you're wearing oh yeah what's the point then I mean it's to stop you from fucking not from pissing yeah the piss made is a completely different device guys never worn a chastity cage before I'm a ch but for piss. Oh I bet you want to piss so bad. Yes, I do. This spit on me for 36 hours. I'm in excruciating pain. It's all backing up into my kidneys. I'm dying. So one of the things that one of the reasons that this was of interest to us was that it was raised as like a potential security vulnerability that your your dick in its cage could be hacked and that was a tantalizing prospect to us and in fantastic news in the first month of 2021 it has already happened. It's a great day I remember I woke up and I opened Twitter I to thi thi I that was that that that that that that that that that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was th. tho tho tho thate thate the the the that was a that was a that was a that was a that was a thate the that was a that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was th was th was th was th was th was th was th was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. thate. I was a the thate. thate. I was a thate. thate. thate. thate. I was the. I was the the first month of 2021 it has already happened.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's a great day. I remember I woke up and I opened Twitter. I looked at my mentions and I was like the dick cage that's happened. It has returned to us. In this story from Vice, your cock is mine now. Hacker locks internet connected chastity cage demands ransom. What would you be willing to pay to get that bad boy out of there, you know? This is just a little Easter egg for any listeners to the show who are fans of the band Tidal Fight. You can very easily sing, Your Cock is Mine Now to the tune of their song, Your Pain pain is mine now and I've been doing it in my head for a week. Thank you. Love to try. Listen to title fight. So this is from the article. A hacker took control of people's internet-connected chastity cages and demanded a ransom be paid in Bitcoin of course to unlock it.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Be-bidi-di- did, your cock is mine now. The hacker told one of the victims, according to a screenshot of the conversation obtained by a security researcher that goes by the name Smelly. Awesome. Smelly is the founder of VX Underground, a website that collects malware samples. Nothing like Smelly talking about dick cages. Great stuff. Would you like to come over and check out my collection of malware samples? Well, Smelly, I have to pass on that one.
Starting point is 00:09:40 In October of last year, security researches found that the manufacturer of an Internet of Things Chastity Cagastity cage, a sex toy that users put around their penis to prevent erections that is used in the BDSM community and can be unlocked remotely, had left an API exposed, giving malicious hackers a chance to take control of the devices. And that's exactly what happened, according to a security researcher who obtained screenshots of conversations between the hacker and several victims, according to victims interviewed by a motherboard. A victim who asked to be identified only as Robert said he had received a message from a hacker demanding a payment of 0.02 Bitcoin, around $750 dollars, to unlock the device. He realized his cage was definitely, quote, locked, and he could, quote, not gain access to unlock the device. He realized his cage was definitely quote locked and he could quote not gain access to it. Fortunately, I didn't have this locked on myself when this happened Robert said in an online chat. Oh very lucky. So you just like sitting in your room and you just hear something to slam shut
Starting point is 00:10:40 in a drawer somewhere. Huh, that's weird. Just the, uh, just like the old school prison door slamming sample, you know? Well, yeah, that's kind of, that's got to be a bummer if you're the hacker. And you, you didn't like, get someone whose dick was in it at the time? Yeah, you slam their dick shot. You thinking you're doing doing that and then you send them a message and they go, oh my dick wasn't in at the time. Jokes on you fool, my dick was free. Free! You're like saying I have locked your garage and you cannot use your car until you, and they're like the cars outside. I'm at the shops. You fool. Car's on the street. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. thick's thin's thick's thick's thick's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thick's thick's thick's thick's thick's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the th. the the the th. the th. the th. thin's thin's thin's thin's thin. thin. thin. the thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's the shops. You fool. Cars on the street. It's fine. I can get into the garage through the house, use all the stuff. Everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I wasn't the owner of the cage anymore, so I didn't have full control over the cage at any given moment. Another victim who goes by the name R.J. told Mother Board in online chat. RJ said he got a message from the hacker who said they had control of the cage and wanted a payment to unlock it. These hacks show once again that just because you can connect something to the internet, it doesn't mean you have to. Especially if you then don't take care of securing the device or its connection. Chu-I, the China-based manufacturer of the device, which is aptly called cellmate, did not respond to a request for comment.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Maybe they shouldn't have done all those reports about the fact that this could be vulnerable to internet hackers. If I was a hacker and I read that, I'd be like, damn, I'm going to open my computer and log into the mainframe right now. Yeah. And then what? And then hack these, these penises. Yeah. Yeah. I would type in penis cage, hack, start. Yes, that's what I would do. That's most of the work done right there. I wonder what it's actually involved in finding out of hacking. Wouldn't have a clue. Hacking the Dick API. Glamorous work. It's probably just like the movie Black Hat. Sure. Which Chris Hemsworth is a big buff sexy hacker.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Or like the movie Swordfish. Yes. Oh, and which Hugh Jackman is a big buff sexy hacker? Who gets sucked off while doing a difficult programming challenge? Sure does. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's probably maybe the fourth time of this podcast we've mentioned the movie the movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the fourth time of this podcast we have mentioned the movie Swordfish and the part where it gets sucked off. Oh dear. Back when John Travolta was making good movies? No. No. No. No. My goodness that man has had some career arcs. I was watching a little video about the fanatic, the movie that he was in. The Fred Durst directed movie in which there is a scene where Devon Sawa playing against type as a big movie star,
Starting point is 00:13:49 is telling his son about the band Limp Biscuit. Oh no. It's like, yeah, you ever listen to Limp Biscuit? And then he turns up the radio and he's like, yeah. Which song? Hot back in the day. It sounded like something too new. I wonder if the newer stuff is on a less controlling label, perhaps. But yeah, it's got a nearly 70-year-old John Travolta in a very bad mullet wig,
Starting point is 00:14:12 wearing a backpack the whole time and pretending to be, I don't know, highly autistic. Yeah, I think the suggestion is definitely that he's autistic in a very, Fred Durst directed this movie kind of way. Yeah, it's never good when the depiction in a movie is just kind of a kind of of of of of of of of of of of of of of, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi very Fred Durst directed this movie kind of way. Yeah, it's never good when the depiction in a movie is just kind of a grab bag of symptoms of different things. That's never going to work out well. And how long before that did swordfish come out? Like 20 years? Yeah, I don't go, did swordfish come out? Early 2000s. God dear. Like really early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Time, time moving, too fast. 2001. And now we're living in the wild future where Hugh Jackman's character could lock your dick cage from a fart. He could while getting sucked off. With this strange to it. The irony! The irony! Getting sucked off while he prevents you from getting sucked off, you know? Clank.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Alex Lomas, a security researcher at pen test partners who audited the cellmate device confirmed that some users have received the extortion messages and said this highlights the need for better security practices. It's so true. I mean maybe I wouldn't be as worried about like my Google Home Mini that I asked to put timers on as compared to say something that I have bolted onto my cock. You should be worried about that thing. I don't trust it. Either I. Um. And the other, um. And the other, um. And the other, um, um, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. th. th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, thi. That, thi. That, thi. That, the. That, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I, the. I, the. I, the. I, the. the. the. the. th thing. I don't trust it. Either way. And then the other day, Elna and I were in the lounge room and then it just came on in the kitchen and started reading us out like a series of
Starting point is 00:15:57 locations for like nightclubs. Okay. We went, all right. Sure. Quote, almost every company and product is going to have some kind of vulnerability in its lifetime. Maybe not as bad as this one, but something. Loma said in an online chat, it's important that all companies have a way for researchers to contact them and that they keep in toubts. As usual, be careful what devices you trust your data with, or in this case, your genitals. Oh, it's wise, they're having a little fun with it. Oh, they're crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They're so sassy that publication founded by an alt-right white supremacist. They go to war zones and they do ecstasy. Pretty cool. Cool stuff. I feel like every article I have ever read about the internal culture advice. It's very bad. It's just makes it sound like the worst place on the planet. So Ben, I understand in your quest to unlock your own penis. Yeah, yes. You've been, you know, scouring websites, trying to find some additional information.
Starting point is 00:17:05 What do you come up with? Yeah, so I thought I'd sort of see what the community thought about the cellmate. And of course, by the community, I mean the chastity community. So I went to the place where you find out this sort of thing. I went to Reddit, and I went to the subreddit R slash Chew Eye Cellmate. Here's a post from user Gay Chastity. I believe short for Gay Chastity. What's your experience? Does it work? Is it secure? Have you tried to escape? Is it comfortable? Did you try cages like wholly trainer? And how does it compare? Thanks in advance considering investing in this cage? One at a the the the the the the tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie the tue. Is tue. Is tue. Is it tue. Is it tue. Is it tue. Is it tue. Is it's a toy tue. Here is a toynecatie. toynecatioom. Here. Here. Here. Here's t. Here. Here's toy. Here. Here. Here's tasks. tas. Here. tas. tas. tas. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tue. tue. tue. tf. tf. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. tfe. the tue. try cages like Holy Trainer? And how does it compare, thanks in advance, considering investing in this cage? Oh, one at a time, mate.
Starting point is 00:17:47 One at a time. That's a lot of questions. Here is a response from user, Cam Guy 2050. You reckon that's someone who aspires to be a Cam Guy in 2050? Sure. It's really working towards it. He says, I have been wearing mine for four days. First day I wore it, I had not shaved and the hairs were pinching. So when my timer ran
Starting point is 00:18:08 out, I shaved and then put it back on. So much better, no pinching. But I keep the ring looved up with silicon lube as I have rubber gear I like to wear and Vaseline would destroy the rubber. So far so good. From Digi 421. I find it to be the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin the the the the the the the, I the, I the, I have the. I have the. I have the, I have the, I have the, I have the, I have the, I have the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine the, I the, the, the, thin the, the, the, the, the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeto be extremely uncomfortable due to the very thin metal ring. The shape of the ring is good, but it's just too thin. Putting the cage on almost inevitably leads to pinch skin around the shaft due to the odd angle at which the cage has to be put into the ring. In terms of security, this is probably one the most secure I have ever seen. Well, not against hackers. I cannot wear this for an entire day because the pain caused by the thin ring.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Is this like my dick is too big for the chastity cage kind of thing? No, I think this is genuinely a design problem because a lot of people complain about this. Where does, where does the ring go? What am I? I mean, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is, th is, th is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi, is, is thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi... Is the pain is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the pain is the pain is the pain is the pain is the the the the the th is the th is th is th is th is the th is the thi.. Is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin, is.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, is, is, is, is, is'll see a lot of pictures of all the facts, but also if you Google cell mate, you can start to see there's like an inner ring sort of thing at the base there. I see.
Starting point is 00:19:12 User Geoggy says it's a quite nice chastity device and build quality, except for the little lockpin screw coming loose. For me, it has a bit too little room for the skin between the ring and the cage. We gladly have seen some sets of larger rings also have included for better fit. Skin got all swollen up now so I had to take it off. None of this sounds like something if I were to have a penis. I would not like to have this near my penis personally. It doesn't sound that erotically charged to me. Like apart from looking very uncomfortable just having a big plastic thing bolted onto you, I mean I'm looking
Starting point is 00:19:53 at the holy trainer, tagline half angel, half demon. I'm looking at the holy trainer and I've I've put a picture in the chat for you guys and It's um It's at least like much more penis shaped you know Whereas the cellmate oh god. Why did you fucking post that photo? God damn it. Sorry you got to you got to see it. You got to check it out. Alright. Whereas the cellmate, the cellmate looks like... Just for the record, Andrews posted one of the 5,000 pictures of the cellmate, which has someone using it, which just really sort of stretches out and spreads the balls within the sack.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Also he's posted that in our podcast yet. Theo is currently with family at the moment, like his extended family, and I hope to God he just pulls out his phone and opens this. Because all of the pictures and just little warning preview images. No, it doesn't. A little warning to the listeners of the show, if you do Google cellmate Chastity and then hit the old images tab. You will immediately see a bunch of gross dick sandwiched into this thing. So if you're not really on that tip, don't Google that. But basically like this looks a lot more like something that they would kind of bolt on to the front of robocop to make him feel like he still has a
Starting point is 00:21:18 dick. Very, very square, very angular. really not working with any of the curves or shapes of the human body here. It's not penis shaped, certainly. No, and all of the pictures of people using it, it really does look like it is absolutely clamping your balls in there like a giant bulldog clip. Very unpleasant. So this is an official podcast endorsement of the Holy Trainer. That is the chestity device of the show.
Starting point is 00:21:52 How are you meant to get your ball through there? It's wild. We will get into that in a little bit actually. So I've got some other stuff here. Here are some other posts on that same subrednet. This one from Quagley can't unlock? Anyone else having a problem unlocking? I have no Keymaster, no timers running, or pending to be accepted on the time of management screen, but when I try to unlock, I get unlocking permission had been took back.
Starting point is 00:22:21 What it's worth, I completed my first referendum a little while ago, but that time I completed successfully and I should be free now? Oh, this is very upsetting. Imagine having you dick locked in there and being like, hmm, I'll go to Reddit, see what I can find out. Hey guys. Well, especially if like, so, so I think the, the general principle here, right, is that you put this thing on and you are then able to assign control of the device to other people. And they can do that remotely, they can do that in the same room as you, whatever. And like, that's one thing to have enough trust in another person to be able to do that, but also if you were just
Starting point is 00:23:06 like, no, no, I don't know anybody who's doing this with me, I just put this thing on myself and set a little timer. And then the timer finished, and my dick is still just locked into this little clamp, and there seems to be no way to unlock it. That would be a pretty panic-inducing 20 minutes, I think, before you learned to just live with this thing for the rest of your life. In the comments of this guy's post, the can't unlock post, like seven hours later, someone is like, did you resolve this?
Starting point is 00:23:39 And the guy's like, no. So it lasted like a fair while. I've got another post here from user Tom 007-434. Balls hurt a lot when I get stiff, sad face. It does give you a sad face, I agree. Efforting with the cage is great, and I'm fine when soft. When I start to get hard, my balls really hurt and not in a pleasurable way. It's very uncomfortable. I've tried both rings and lube, but they still
Starting point is 00:24:11 hurt a lot when I get hard and it makes the cage pretty much unusable for me. Please help. It's not seeming good. What do they want here? Okay, the thing's meant to hurt when you get a boner, and you're complaining that the thing hurts too much. A bunch of winges on here. There's a post here from user, no substance 8335. Ultimate goal? Hey everyone, what is your ultimate goal? I want to work up to being locked up for six months at a time with only one day break in between.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's a lot, but with some work, I think I'll get there. So they want the dick locked, the cage locked under their dick for basically the entire year but with a one day break in the middle. To what end? I'm not going to kink shame. I'm confused by using this in a not BDSM manner. Like these guys are doing it to themselves. Well, that's because they can't find anyone to do it to them. That's, the, the, the fucking sub-redddit is just full of people being like, hey, love to have a mistress, but I think there's a sort of asymmetrical demand for guys that really get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to their their their their to their their their their a woman locking their dick away versus women who really get off on locking stranger dick away.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I think all men should have one of these for six months at a time ti. Imagine that world. Imagine that's just like open season. Maybe this one day at a time break, I think that's perfect. I'm still meaning to get around to finding out how much of a vasectomy costs but how much is one of these things? Yeah who needs a vasectomy just lock it all in a cage? Just that doesn't okay. Put that bad boy away. I might be thrown out baby with a bathwater there a little bit. No we've already got the babies. The baby is your ability to fuck. It's what I'm sort of saying here. The bathwater is the bathwater is seaman.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So someone in the comments sort of objected to this guy's claimed goal with this quite succinct point that I think is quite good. I think you need to do every week cleaning and shaving. Like you need to take it off so you can clean your penis. Can I can I say that that I'm absolutely reading that in a German accent? I think you need to do every week cleaning and shaving? This very matter of fact. Absolutely German's German to English syntax then. User Designer Opening 3-49 has a critique here. It's very matter of fact. Absolutely German to English syntax then. User Designer Opening 349 has a critique here. Too easy to masturbate.
Starting point is 00:26:51 What? Even if you can't get your balls out, you can still pull out and masturbate. Doesn't that defeat the point of the device? You're not working with the spirit of the thing. You're not. You can slide your dick out sideways. So it's just sort of a loop that goes over the top and the bottom and the end. You can sort of just prod you're peter's out rightwards or leftwards, depending on your personal preference.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well... Can you get an erection? I'm very confused. I think you... See, we're getting deep into the logistics here, but I think the idea is that if you start to get an erection, if you become aroused, then it will be like too firm to remove from the device. Whereas I think that this guy is kind of violating the spirit of the device by pulling, by like, by like slithering his completely flaccid penis out of there. Damn it. And then true himself off. Well, he's anticipating a future boner. They'd be like, wait a second, I'm having a vision. I'm about to get hard. It's time to slip my penis out of my chastity coach.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Better just like a little shaved weasel out of here. I'm making my rat. I feel like these devices, especially for somebody who's just using it by themselves, it kind of makes me think it's much more akin to the no-fap kind of stuff. Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of no-fap from these comments. No-fap vibes. Yeah. So yeah, I think if you're saying, hey, it's too easy to get my dick out of here.
Starting point is 00:28:29 You're not participating with it in the spirit in which it's intended. That's right. Uh, user, Jason 181-220 says, I've given up used the cellmate, gone back to normal chastity. Which is both the heading of his post and also the entire text of it, but then in the replies he just added, also I've lost all my friends and contacts. What? Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So this could mean two things. Could mean anything. Well, I mean, I feel like he's either saying the app erased all of his friends and contacts in there, or this has completely alienated him from anyone he's ever known. I prefer that interpretation. The cellmate ruined my life. I think all of these guys from this Reddit need to get in contact with the women in that New York Times article who, who was saying like, you know, uh, uh, if, uh, if, uh, if, you know, uh, if, if, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this this is this is this is this this this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this, this.. this. this, this, this, this. this. this, this. I, th. I th. I th. I th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this is this is this is this is this is this is thi from this Reddit need to get in contact with the women in that New York Times article who it was saying like, you know, if you don't like have a big social media following
Starting point is 00:29:32 or whatever, it's hard to make enough money from only fans to subsidize your bills and stuff. We just need to get these two groups of people together. So these guys can pay those ladies to lock and unlock their dick cages remotely. And the ladies can get paid for, I don't know, sending a text message and hitting a button on an app once every four hours, you know. That's actually not that bad, really. I mean, if they're not doing it actively, right? They just said a bunch of timers, but you know that there's a woman there there's a're paying them like, let's say, five bucks a month, the cost of a patron subscription to this
Starting point is 00:30:09 podcast. Those add up. I think I might be leaving the podcast, fellas. I think there's a new career in my future. You can do both. How time consuming do you think it's going to be, it'll be like, text message once a month being like hi Stephen just letting you know your deck will be locked from 5 a.m. until 8pm. Steven your cock is mine now. I have one final post here. This is from user-in-law. This is from user Chasra by choice which I believe I have copied and pasted this so
Starting point is 00:30:42 this is definitely what they use name is but I think they made a typo when entering it, because I think it's meant to be chased by choice. That is certainly right next to the T. The heading reads, EASELAND END the heading reads, ''Easily unlocked a cellmate. I had to easy way to unlock the device. All you need is a thin piece of metal to slide in above the lock pin and rotate it towards the front of the cage and it will disengage the lock pin. So he's found it's quite easy to get out of it. And I just really, really, really enjoy this. The first reply on the post from user Sparky 1971. I did not want to this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I th it th it. I th it. I th it. I th it. I to to to to to to to to th th th to th the to th to th th th to th th th th th th th to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis to dis the to dis to dis engage the to disengage thi thi thi thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thee an the an thi thi thi toooooooooo to disenged will will will disenged to disenged to know this. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:25 May I have ruined myself. It's so good. I'd like that to me it sort of suggests that this person cannot trust their own nature enough that they're like, well now you've put the information for how to unlock it into my brain. I will use it. What kind of ruins the vibe of the whole thing? There are two wolves inside every man. One wolf who wants to keep the dick cage on,
Starting point is 00:31:50 and one wolf who now understands you can use a thin piece of metal to slide in above the lockpin and rotate it towards the front of the cage and it will disengage the lockpin. I feel like when we first talked about this, we were sort of looking at a thing that was like, you can still manually get the thing off even if somebody takes control of it or whatever. Like that exactly what this guy's talking about here. And leave her off, which is the official advice to I was giving people. Every time I get asked. I feel like this, this has given me more respect for the no-fap community. They really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, th, th, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even if, even if th if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if th if th if th if th if th if th if th if th if th if th if th if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even if, even if, even if, th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thithis this has given me more respect for the
Starting point is 00:32:25 no-fap community. They really really committed to it. Well and also you know you're doing that off will-power alone and you do it if you self. Will power and your cellmate device. Not just for some PVC-clad Dominatrix. Mm-hmm. That is what all Dominatrix is wear is the PVC outfit. All hours of the day. All day long. I'm going to bed time to put on my PVC pyvacic pajamas. Like Ebeney's a Scrooge style. It's a PVC night gouted sleep cap. Rowing over in bed at night and waking yourself up with the noise. It's creaking.
Starting point is 00:33:07 God, it looks so uncomfortable. It really does. I know, like that's, that is definitely one of those things. For all the, for all the kinks and stuff that I understand, PVC is one I don't get. Me either, not for me. Not for me. Definitely for Theo, while he's not here. Theo is definitely a PVC guy, for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:29 He does not have kinks. But the challenge of getting rid of his anxiety enough to even have regular style sex is enough, let alone considering anything else around that. Too much work. Wow. Dominering, controlling women who determine your every move and ability to have sex, are we talking about crazy sex fetishists or pregnant women in South Korea? Yep. Uh-huh. We were talking about sex fetishists, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was a story that, okay. Um, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:59 some of the things that we talked of the things that we talk about on here are simultaneously very bad but also make me laugh a lot. This is one of them. So apologies in advance, but also, ha ha. This is from the Guardian. I sent this to Lucy earlier in the week, and I believe that it entertained the great deal. I did not enjoy the Guardian. I sent this to Lucy earlier in the week and I believe that it entertained her the great deal. I did not enjoy this one. So this is this is from the Guardian and it is about anger over the city of Seoul's advice to pregnant women. The Seoul city government has sparked anger for offering advice to pregnant women that includes ensuring that their husbands have clean clothes and enough to eat while they are
Starting point is 00:34:49 in hospital giving birth. The guidelines posted on a government-run website included tips for expectant South Korean mothers at different stages of their pregnancy. In the early stages, for example, it suggested that they avoid putting off housework as it would help them maintain a healthy weight. It added, quote, hang the clothes you wore before you were pregnant in a place where they are easy to see as that will motivate you to keep your weight under control. Oh my God. And go back to the same weight you were before you gave birth. If you are tempted to overread or skip exercise, take a look at the clothes.
Starting point is 00:35:25 God, that's so bad. So bad. Just when you think it can't actually get any worse, it does. It gets so much worse than this. As they near their due date, women should clear their fridge of items that are about to go off and prepare three to four meals such as curry and soup that their husbands, quote, who are unaccustomed to cooking, can simply heat up while they are offending for themselves. Oh my God. Poor guys. Poor men. Poor fellas. They need help warming up their soup while their wife gets a free holiday in hospital, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:06 They must also make sure that they leave enough changes of clothes for three days to a week for their husband and children, it said, adding, quote, and buy a hair band so that you don't look disheveled after having the baby. You messy bitch, you look like shit. Why do you look so sweaty right now after pushing those twins out of the inside of your body? God, put a little makeup on, honey? Jesus Christ. I love that this also just implies that men are just cavemen, just absolutely the dumbest pieces of shit alive.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Just like a pet dog, he will die if you leave him alone in the house for a week. If you don't feed him, he will just die. The guidelines were published online by the city government's pregnancy and childbirth information center, which opened in 2019. All right. So that was 30, 35 years ago? Yeah, sometime in the... 2019 was in the 50s.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. I feel like this is pretty rough even by 50s standards. The guidelines, oh my goodness, were overseen by the Korean Society of Obstetrics and Gynecology. The guidelines were recently removed in response to online criticism. South Korea's Yonap News Agency said, quote, do they still think married women are their husband's housekeepers? One social media user asked.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Another said, it's hard to even breathe towards the end of a pregnancy and they're expecting us to prepare underwear and food for our husbands? Preparing underwear is a funny combination the funa their their their their their their their thiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. toe of toe of a funny combination toe of a funny combination toe of a funny combination toe of a funny combination they're expecting us to prepare underwear and food for our husbands? Preparing underwear is a funny combination of words to me. I know what they mean, but it makes it sound like you're taking some underwear that exists and then doing, I don't know, some other steps to it, you're putting it on a platter. Wife? Prepare my underwares. I intend to leave the house today. Going into the underwear saddleling up the underwear. The underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. the underwear. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm to to to th. I'm. I'm. I'm to to th. I'll. I'll. I'm to to to to to to to to to to th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I te. I te. te. teateatea. teatea. teat. tea. tea. te. the. I the. I th saddling up the underwear. Oh boy. The city government said it had copied the advice from a website run by the health ministry which had removed it before the recent furor. I can't say anything anymore can you? Oh it's like just trying to help
Starting point is 00:38:23 these birds out and they get mad at you for it, you know? It's cancel culture. This led me down a bit of a rabbit hole of bad Korean government advice. Wonderful. So, uh, this advice had been published about a year after a bunch of advice made everybody very mad after it being given to teens. This is also from the guardian. Finding the perfect life partner can be difficult but South Korean students are taught from an early age that the ideal method for attracting a spouse is really
Starting point is 00:38:57 quite simple. Quote, women have to work on their appearance and men have to work on improving their financial capabilities, say the government guidelines for high school pupils. Fellows, you've got to be hustling. Gotta get your sound cloud wraps out there. Mm-hmm. You've got to spend less time at the club, more time at the bank, you know what I'm saying? When dating begins, the guidelines carry a warning. Quote, for men who spend a thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the theeeeee theeee- the-s the-s, the-s, the-s, the-s, true. When dating begins, the guidelines carry a warning. Quote, for men who spend a lot of money on dates, it is natural he would want to be compensated for the money spent.
Starting point is 00:39:33 In what way might a man need to be compensated for the money that he's spent on a date? Oh, well they explain in the following sentence, in such cases, unwanted date rape can occur. It says that. It says that in the advice to teenage students. Okay. Oh yeah. Which really seems like the government saying to teenage girls, hey, you better, you know, you better make a worth as while. We wouldn't want anything bad to happen would we? Oh my goodness, this is really bad. Bit of standover tactics from the government here. The guidelines developed by the
Starting point is 00:40:18 education ministry at a cost of 600 million one which is around 420,000 pounds, which is about how many Australian dollars been? 8 million. 500 million, about that, I think. So they spent money on this very in-depth research where they apparently just went and like, asked the worst man alive what he thought about women. Yeah. Bro, bro, what's up thought about women. Yeah. Bro.
Starting point is 00:40:45 What's up with chicks, right? Yeah. And then they just wrote down what he said after that. The texts were criticized for reinforcing gender stereotypes, ignoring reality and being, quote, blatantly sexist. Despite the backlash, the ministry initially stood its ground, simply removing the material from the website and out of public view. While the education ministry declined to provide the the the the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide the guide their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. Uh, while the education ministry declined to provide a copy,
Starting point is 00:41:07 the guardian was able to review the guidelines in their full. Following, continuing our cry, the government pledged to review the guidelines in March, however the current guidelines are still in use and there is no timeline for updated material. This is according to Chomyohion, head of the Ministry's Student Health Policy Department, and he th and he th and he th, and he th, and he th, and he, and he, and he, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, their, their, their, the G, the G, the G, the Guardian, the Guardian, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thyon, head of the Ministry Student Health Policy Department, and he said, hey, changes to the material can't happen overnight. Quote, revamping the guidelines isn't simple because it requires an entire process, like researchers exchanging opinions, he said.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Researches. Bro. Well, there's something that does not work about the sentence. Researchers exchanging opinions. Is it research or are you writing down their opinions? Yep. Researching by going on Twitter and asking a guy that listens to Joe Rogan what he thinks women should do when they're pregnant?
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, that's research. He said, it's difficult to say whether the ones we came up with in 2015 were problematic. Who could say? You know? Who could say? For example, you guys who all seem very mad don't like the guidelines and me, the person who wrote them, thinks they're fine. I'm going to assume there's not a lot of women in the government departments that wrote
Starting point is 00:42:27 these guidelines. Yeah. I can go out on a limb. Uh, they are pretty unfortunate. Kim Sung A. A. A. A. a high school teacher and vocal critic of sex education has practiced in South Korea said, quote, they set out the narrative of students' lives, they are born are born, meet a man, a woman they love, and they get married, have babies, and raise kids. Assuming everyone should live this way, does not reflect reality and ignores people's diverse
Starting point is 00:42:51 lifestyles. And quote, starting in elementary school, students are required to sit for 15 hours of sex. In middle school, they are to'nighthau-t that that th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, sex. In high school, the guidelines explain, quote, females sexually respond to one specific male, whereas males can have sexual intercourse extensively with women that they are only sexually attracted to. Jesus Christ. As South Korea grapples with an epidemic of public harassment,
Starting point is 00:43:21 women are also told that if they are sexually harassed on public transportation, they should, quote, step on the perpetrator's foot as if by mistake. Whoops, he he. Whoops. Oh, God. This is very upsetting. Also, I mean, some of this isn't far from what people think as well, so, you know. Yeah, but you can't just write it down. Yeah, they're just saying the quiet part out loud on the government website. So. Yeah, so basically this is enough of a problem there that parents are sending their kids to like private classes outside of public school specifically in order to like be deprogrammed of the sex education
Starting point is 00:44:07 they are receiving in school. And teachers have also started holding outside discussion groups that cover everything from sexual harassment to menstruation to LGBT issues. Yeah, that's kind of a bummer. It's real bummer. It's a real bummer. That's very upsetting. I wonder why they have a problem with harassment and stuff. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's really good stuff to be teaching teenage boys. Love it. Big fan. Hard to see a link between the things. Oh, between, yeah, the epidemic of like voyeur filming, upskirts, toilet seat cameras, all that kind of thing, and also teaching all men from the youngest age possible that they can do whatever they want and that women should shut up. Dono how one of those things might lead to the other.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Who knows? Who can say? Been a while since I've had something so infuriating about women in this podcast. So it's a good one. Real throwback. Teachers are not hopeful the revised guidelines will tackle the problems they see every day. Quote, the education ministry itself lacks sexual sensitivity. Yim Yi rang, a high school English teacher said, I don't have high expectations because the same people who came up with the current guidelines are also working on the new ones. Awesome. Yeah, I'm sure they're going to be so much better. I would love to revisit this
Starting point is 00:45:41 if they change their guidelines. I might even say that women can take a week off when they first have a baby. My goodness. Hi everybody, it's me. It's Theo. Now I guarantee you I'm more afraid of recording this promo than you are of listening to it, so hear me out. If you haven't already, may you check out our Patriate the show. It's a great way to support the show, it's, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, to support, the to support, to support, the to support, tho, to support, to, to, to, to, to be, to bea, to, the the the to bea, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi.e, thi.ea, thi.ea.e. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, the us the ability to actually dedicate time to this thing.
Starting point is 00:46:11 You'll get all of our bonus episodes, it's over 300 extra episodes in total, and we'll set up a feed over there with none of these promos so you won't have to hear this ever again. You'll also get access to our discord, which honestly is turned into a nice and funny place full of mostly normal people to hang out with. So that's Patreon.com slash Bunter Vista. Check it out. Well, at least there's no sexism in Australia. Yeah, that's right. We're fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. We don't have an entire section of the media class that freaks out at the concept of even discussing sexuality in a school. Who likes to portray all sex education as some kind of gay, pedophilic grooming exercise? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:59 That's right. Yep. Pretty cool. So we don't have to worry about that. No. And we can just move on to normal Australian stuff. Normal Australian politics. Like what, Ben? Oh, well, let's check in on our dear friend, Chef Peter Evans.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Peter Evans. Friend of the show, Australia's most leathery man who has just been going on a fucking, I don't know, ten years ago he's saying, I put some crystals near your balls at night and you'll feel stronger or whatever and now he's posting Nazi shit. But of course there's only really, he got booted off Facebook, he got booted off, Spotify, I think his podcast was kicked off. He really... Still on Instagram?
Starting point is 00:47:49 He is still on Instagram. I think he's back on Instagram. If you're interested, I did a big episode on this with our friends at Q&ONon Anonymous. It's very fun. Can hear the history of Peter Evans if we haven't discussed it enough on here, which I'm sure th is is is is is is is because we're about to talk about it, even more. Well, this isn't history. This is history in the making. This is news story.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Does that scare? So there's only, you know, when you're getting silenced, when your platform's getting taken away from you for the civil crime of being insane, there's only one avenue left you, and that is, of course, to go to go to go to go tothat is of course to go into politics. I knew it. So as Peter Evans has done a little, he's done a little poster intagram as he is want to do. That post reads as thus, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Stay tuned for an announcement next week.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Prayer hands emoji, rainbow emoji, love heart emoji. This mothucker loves telling people to stay tune for something. So this post was accompanied by an image, because this is Instagram, and that image is of the worst political party logo that I have ever seen. It is the logo of the Great Australian Party,
Starting point is 00:49:06 the Gap, as we call it. Google that one because it is incredibly ugly. The logo has real, real like, life being it, kind of 1970s Australia energy. Yeah it really looks like shit. It's not even, maybe it is the worst thing about the party, it's hard to say, they haven't done anything because they can't because they've never been elected anyway, but this is the party of a podcast favorite, hasn't had a mention in a little while, Rod Culleton. Now, Roddy. For those of you aren't familiar with Rod Cson, I think I'd maybe do a just a quick recap of his career here.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So he was a man who in the 2016 federal election ran and was elected as a senator for One Nation for the state of Western Australia. Everything was going swimmingly for him until rumors started to come out about him having a sort of a personal fallout with Pauline Hanson. This culminated in possibly my favorite political interview, I don't know if a council interview was more they just stopped him while he was trying to get breakfast. There's just a video of him in Parliament House getting a cup of tea. It's so funny. While someone, a reporter comes up to him and he's cup of tea while someone a reporter
Starting point is 00:50:28 comes up to him and he's like we've heard that there's trouble in the party that you're having a falling out with Pauline Hansen and he's like he just like looks at the camera and says no no everything's fine and then proceeds to knock over like 30 mugs on the table it's trying to catch so over so many mugs it's so beautiful so hea the the th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I that that that that that that thus thus that thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus tho tho thus thus the the the tho. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the thi thi trying to catch them. It's so beautiful. So he got kicked out of the party or he quit one nation after just a lot of interpersonal arguments. The point Hansen. So he sat as an independent instead for about a month because after that he was kicked out he was kicked out because he was embroiled in a lot of
Starting point is 00:51:07 court cases over very very very large unpaid debts like there were I think four or five of them and all of the debts are in the numbers of like a couple hundred thousand dollars and one of his debtors successfully got federal court to declare him bankrupt which under section 44 of the Australian Constitution makes you ineligible to sit. So he got kicked out for that reason. On the very same day that Stephen Parry, then the President of the Senate, made the advice that he was no longer a senator, the High Court in a different court case
Starting point is 00:51:45 ruled that he was ineligible to have been voted in in the first place because of a different part of Section 44 of the Australian Constitution, which is that if you have a conviction that has a jail sentence of more than two years, you're ineligible to sit. So at the time, he had one of those. It was a lararsarsarsarsarsarsarsarsars a a lararcany the the the the the sit. So at the time he had one of those. It was a larceny charge because in Guyra, New South Wales, a tow truck driver came to a property of Culletons
Starting point is 00:52:19 to repossess a truck that he had. Culleton got into an altercation with the man, then took the keys out of the tow truck that he had. Carlton got into an altercation with the man, then took the keys out of the tow truck and threw them away. The keys were valued at $7.50, but he still managed to get the last new charge for it. He was convicted of it even though he didn't rock up to the court case. The reason he didn't rock up to the court case. The reason he didn't rock up to the court case for it was because he was at a different court hearing in Western Australia for a different last decharge. I'm going to read the Wikipedia summary of what happened there. Just a busy boy. Go on on a little Rod Culleton trip. I'm enjoying this. He's just the most baffling man. The allegations are the receivers that attended the
Starting point is 00:53:08 property of Mr Dixon near Coveling, Western Australia with the A&Z Bank alleging that he had defaulted on a loan. While the receivers are inside the farmhouse talking to Mr. Dixon the hire car was blocked in by hay bales. The car was subsequently moved and it is alleged that Culleton tried to obtain a key. When the case was heard, Culleton was representing himself, shouted at the magistrate and throw his glasses at her, they hit a table. A police officer removed him from the court, but he apologized to the court and was allowed to return to cross-examine witnesses. So that, I don't think he's been convicted of that last knee charge yet, and also his previous last new charge was overturned, but because it was still valid at the time that he was elected, it made him ineligible to have been elected in the first place. So despite the fact that there were two reasons why he could not have been a senator,
Starting point is 00:53:59 he refused to accept that he had been removed as a senator and there are all these reports. Setting the Trump blueprint here. Yeah, he basically just did though like, well, what are you going to do? Stop me. That's just your opinion. For a while, a bunch of Australian political journalists for like months afterwards be like, well, Rod Culleton's still here walking around the halls, even though he's not a senator and he doesn't have an office anymore. And like up to a year later, he kept claiming that he was still a senator.
Starting point is 00:54:29 He called himself a senator in exile, which is so very dramatic. And like all of his legal arguments, it's all sovereign citizenship. It's all stuff being like, well, the Australian Constitution isn't valid because there's a typo, blah, blah, blah. The only valid flag of Australia is the Navy flag, like all this dumb fucking shit where you're like, none of this is real. He tried to, well he kept saying he was going to appeal his getting kicked out to the like petty court of the UK or whatever, and despite the fact that it doesn't have any bearing the the the the the thaa b b b b b b b b ba. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's, thi. It's, the thi.. And, the the thi. It's, the the thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, the thi. It's thi. I's thi. I's the. It's the. It's te. It's teeeeeeeeeeole. It's toeeeeeeeeole. It's toe. It's tee. I's te. It's totale. It's the. court of the UK or whatever, and despite the fact that it doesn't have any bearing here. It's very strange man. Anyway, in 2019, the Great Australian Party ran two candidates in each of New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia, and they didn't win shit. But maybe their fortunes will change with Pete Evans. Definitely. That's a man
Starting point is 00:55:23 that people respect, uh, listen to. It's just like possibly the funniest party he could have joined. It really is. Like maybe the fucking whatever Dick Smith's party was called, that might have been equally as funny. I knew this would happen. I knew he would run for politics and it was going to be one of those stupid, made up one nation adjacent parties and he's done it. Incredible. Oh, I forgot to say that Rod Carlton's seat was, he was replaced by his brother-in-law.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And apparently I don't think they were on speaking terms after that. It's quite funny. Politically cut. See you. That's not the only thing that's happening in Pete Evans' life as well. There's another post on his Instagram here. It's a picture of some sort of hinterlands looking area with a logo of six interlocked rings with the words evolve sanctuary written underneath it.
Starting point is 00:56:24 The caption says that Nick and I are honored to announce our wellness and cooking retreat of Old Sanctuary will be opening in March. We'll be hosting very special weekend events in the beautiful elevated rainforest hinterland area of northern New South Wales. A heads up, no phone service. Oh, this is a cult. Yeah, that's it right. Like he's got a midsummer a bunch of fucking people. Yeah, absolutely, no phones. Trick a bunch of backpackers into putting on bare costumes and climbing into a funeral pyre. Well, he might do it.
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Starting point is 00:57:25 You know a guy that does the sunning his testicles thing. I know a guy. I've got a guy if you need that. And he's huge about the purported benefits of it. He's always posting about it. Posting sort of vague photos of not his balls, thank fuck. But it's just like his bare legs in the backyard with the implication being that he is sunning his balls to increase his testosterone production. Okay. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah. Just feeling good, feeling normal. I'm looking at Pete's Instagram and I'm just, I'm not happy. Why have I done this? Why is he on here? He's got a picture with Rod Serling from the Twilight Zone, which has made me very angry. And it says, imagine if you will, a media so corrupt that they believe their own fake news. No. I won't imagine anything you tell me to imagine.
Starting point is 00:58:19 He's just so cooked, isn't he? He's very cooked. Beyond repair. It's very upsetting. I love that there's always like a little rainbow and a love heart at the end of all of his posts. Yeah, yeah. It's, I know we've said it before, but his stuff all follows like a very, very deliberate format, which is along the lines of like,
Starting point is 00:58:41 walking right up to the edge of making some kind of statement and then just pulling away and going, hey, interesting to think about. Much to consider. Gotta consider these many questions. It's like, well, you've been considering the one thing over and over for a long time. Now it kind of just seems like that's what you're into. And I'm sure that a large part of that is for the very reason that like you know when he when he had his whole whoops I accidentally posted a stormfront meme on my Facebook page so that he can just have some what he thinks of as some extent of like plausible deniability I was talking with my dad about this over Christmas
Starting point is 00:59:32 Where Pete Evans specifically and dad is very much of the mind that? Pete Evans is just you know 100% a grifter and that he knows what he's doing with all of this stuff that it's all just Any publicity is good publicity kind of thing I guess like obviously some of it has not been good for him in the sense that he has lost a whole bunch of sponsorships and You know a whole bunch of corporate deals and been kicked off some of the bigger platforms and that sort of stuff I'm sure that wasn't particularly his extent but but I definitely think that like yeah I guess that's the the question that we're all asking ourselves about Pete Evans specifically all the time is does he
Starting point is 01:00:17 actually believe any of this shit? What do we think we think folks? I don't think he has thoughts I think there is just a little rat running around inside of his brain. So it's like ratitouille, but the rat is internal? Yes, it's internal ratitoui. That is what is going on with Pete Evans. I don't think he exists. I think he is barely alive. I don't think he is a, a, he's not a grifter in the sense that he is intentionally trying to mislead people by thinking up stuff that he thinks gullible people will believe.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I think he is a grifter but it's just his own beliefs which are wrong. Does that make sense? Like I think he genuinely believes the shit that he says. Yes, absolutely. He just is not smart. I don't know, because like I kind of think, um, I mean, it's obviously something that has been working for him with very few repercussions for a long time up until several months ago, which is to maintain these kind of dual careers as having one public face which is smiling leathery man on my kitchen rules.
Starting point is 01:01:36 The leatherman. Yeah, you know, and he never says anything in that show about like, oh I would love to eat these eggs after sunning my anus and perennium for 15 minutes on a Saturday morning that would make me feel top-notch. He doesn't really do any psycho shit on there. Whether or not they edit all of that out or whatever, but like, you know, in that he just has the sort of dead-eyed, endless smile of somebody who is, you know, very consciously like an influencer
Starting point is 01:02:13 type. And then outside of that, he's been able to cultivate this entire sort of alternative following of people on things like Instagram and Facebook, where as we know, you can just run absolutely hog wild with information that requires no grounding in reality or anything like that. And I think in that alternative profile, it serves him like the conspiracy type stuff that he does, all of his like his Q&on type stuff, his COVID vaccine isn't real, type stuff, all of that kind of thing. I think that that stuff just ties into his alternative media personality and brand, which is questioning the accepted, you know, what he thinks of as like the accepted
Starting point is 01:03:08 mainstream media view of the world, because by saying, question everything that is fed to you as legitimate, it allows you to sell things like a $15,000 biocharger lamp, you know, like as long as, as long as you just completely stick to that idea of, anything that a normal GP or a doctor in a hospital or a public health department tells you is probably some questionable bullshit and all prescription medication is poison and all that kind of stuff. If you stick with all that sort of thing, then it's all a very consistent ideological flavor for the bullshit that he does actually get endorsements for and try to sell. And is exactly what he will be talking about at this retreat.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yep. To the women that are joining his cult. Yeah, so I don't know. I guess it feels to me like he was conscious enough for a long time to be able to kind of keep those two profiles, if not separate, as kind of distinct from each other in a way. He had a more acceptable public face on things like TV. And then if you went to his Facebook page or his Instagram and you went, yeah, yeah, this all sits right with me, a resident of Byron Bay, then you could get on board with it, but also you could watch him on TV every week and not know about any of that weird shit he was saying
Starting point is 01:04:43 on Facebook or Instagram. Yeah, even back when it was just, you know, pale on TV every week and not know about any of that weird shit he was saying on Facebook or Instagram. Yeah, even back when it was just, you know, paleo type shit, but yeah, here we are. Activating your almonds and posting Nazi memes, you know. I feel like he went, he sort of stuck with it for like just a bit too long. If he had of like ratcheted it all down a few months ago, then he would have like, kind thi of of to have like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too long. If he had of like ratcheted it all down a few months ago then he would have like kind of missed everything going even more pear-shaped and off the deep end with Trump and all... He should have logged off. Yeah and everyone should. And all of the Q&on predictions failing to come true. Yeah as well, you know he would have just kind of skated by all of that. But instead, he is where he is where he is now.. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. He is now. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, like well, you know, he would have just kind of skated
Starting point is 01:05:25 by all of that. But instead, he is where he is now. And I can't wait until we all have to get the COVID vaccine and how much further he's going to go off the deep end. No, it's not going to be good. Don't worry though, he won't have phone reception where he is, sealing people into barrels. That's right. Bury him. sealing people into barrels, burying them on farmland. Making his wives fight each other. Giving a handful of activated almonds to the winner of the death match. You will need this for your strength. If everyone donates we will go on the Pete Evans retreat. Oh my god. That's a lie I'm not, I think there's gonna be a real, real Jonestown situation there and I mean good. We could just not drink the
Starting point is 01:06:09 the cordial. Like you just say oh thanks and then just sort of tip it out on the ground. Yeah, you say, mmm, yum. That's my favorite kind of cordial. Oh yum, raspberry and I'd be like, wasn't raspberry flavored. Although there was something I I I I I I I I I I I the there there there there there there there there there there was something something something something something something I there was something I there was something I there there was something I there was something I there there was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something. Although there was something I saw pointed out by a friend of the show, Cam Wilson, who has been covering the Pete Evans beat extensively for a while now. And, you know, the sort of extensive misinformation that gets peddled in Australian media by people like Pete Evans and via Sky News and stuff like that gets peddled in Australian media by people like Pete Evans and via Sky News and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And there was something he said the other day which was that like his one, his one regret in covering Pete Evans stories was posting a story about him saying that he was going to delete his Facebook page. Remember when he was like, that's it, I'm getting out of here, going to deactivate for a while, think about things, you know? Which of course he didn't do. Because he was saying if there's one thing that you can establish from watching Pete Evans for a while, it's that most of the shit that he says, he doesn't actually do any of it. He says, ooh, big announcement coming soon like this Rod Coulton thing and then time
Starting point is 01:07:31 just goes by and nothing happens. He loves, it's probably why he identifies with the Q&on stuff so closely because so much of the Q&on stuff is saying, something's gonna happen. Get ready. Get ready for January 20th. On January 21st, oh I didn't specify a year. Yes, the dates that just come and go. It's all about the, it's all about the tantalizing mysterious allusions to something to come. So I wouldn't be shocked if either, well I won't be shocked if we never hear anything from him about the Great Australia Party ever again. I also wouldn't be shocked if the announcement was like, I had lunch with Rod Culleton.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I made him a nice lunch. The idea of Senator Pete Evans, it would just be a very Australia thing to happen though. Yeah, would. But yeah, so that might not happen. I can definitely see the weird retreat stuff happening more because it's something where he can just put a post on, you know, parlour or Instagram or wherever he's still allowed to post saying, come to my stupid retreat where there's no phone reception for a weekend or a week or something and the only people who are going to go to that are rubes with deep pockets who would believe anything that he said anyway. I would love to know what kind of people they are. I would
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Starting point is 01:10:23 I can imagine it. I hope I never have to go back. I hope so too, for your sake. It's so good. It's so good. Instead of at lunchtime, instead of like microwaving leftovers in the office microwave, I just like walk out into the sunshine in the yard and say hello to the chickens, you know. You start barbecuing something at three in the morning so that by the time you have lunch it's ready for lunch. Start preparing your regular seven course of dinner. Look it's usually only one course come on. The man can cook folks. I like cooking. And he's handsome. What a couch. Thanks everybody, specifically my complimentary co-hosts. Now it's time to stop recording and get back into this orgy.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Ben, now that we've established how to push out the locking pin, we can get you back in the game. Yeah, I'm just going to ask one of the strangers of this orgy to jam a screwdriver near my penis. Yeah, I'll hold the cage so you can get a good wind-up This windmilling my arm in preparation building up speed Hands covered in lube. Oh, God. What could go wrong? Oh, sorry about this podcast everyone? I'll never apologize. See you next week everybody. Bye. you to be

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