Boonta Vista - EPISODE 45: Dark Latham (Featuring @MattVBrady)

Episode Date: April 30, 2018

Returning champion Matt Brady joins us for his third appearance to respond to recent shots fired by Friend Of The Show Nelly Yoa. We're also discussing the weird history of the eminently fireable Mark Latham and taking your questions from the mailbag. As always Matt can be found on Twitter at https://twitter.com/mattvbrady and wherever quality lawnmower parts are sold. Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: http://boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Pontivista Socialist Club, episode 45. Ooh, is that the number of the current president of the United States? Is he 45? I thought you were going to do a bit again about the attack this country galaxy? I feel like three weeks in a row would be a bit much. I really like those people that their whole thing is, they're like, I won't call him Mr. President. I won't call him by name. I simply refer to him as 45.

This somehow robs him of power like his... Are you still acknowledging him as the president? Anyway, I'm the mysterious Orient is Ben. Hello, I'm back. Hi Ben. I think that's racist. I think that's racist. I think we don't say the Orient anymore.

I think we don't. The O word. I don't think we said that either. I was having a conversation with someone the other they were like, oh, would you call Japan part in the Orient?" I was like, no. I mean if you were to call all of Asia the Orient, I would include Japan in the Orian. Is that wrong? Seems correct. Oh look I I just like it because it harkens back to a simpler charming time when it was all a big mystery to a bunch of idiots. We're also joined by most of what's left of Lucy.

Hi Lucy. Hey, what's up? Lucy's feeling good. I feel great. She contracted anime fever at the comic book convention. I did. People are telling me that con flu is a thing. And it's where you're around too many mouth breathing nerds and then you get really sick.

So that happened to me. It's because they're all breathing out of their mouths. That's right, that's what happened. Disgusting. And, and we are joined by returning three-time raining champion uncrowned mayor of the Apex Gang, Hunter Valley subdivision. Mr. Matt Brady.

Hello, Matt. Yes. Hello. I've also returned from the Orient as I've been playing a video game called Yakuza Zero. Oh, I've heard that's good. Yeah, it is. It whips. It's really good. I hear it's good, but I never actually see anything from that game that's anything to do with like crime or Yakuza or anything like that? No, it's mainly doing karaoke and dancing. You can play video games from the 80s in it. That's what you do, basically 90% of the time. Yeah, I mainly see screenshots of people like winning a stuffed bear at an arcade. That sounds sick.

Yeah, I watch someone play for an hour and that's more or less the only thing that I saw. Still looks good. Hmm. Sounds great. And how are you, Matt, that's very well. That's good. That is very good. As you may or may not know, folks, the last time Matt was here, we were talking about, I believe, the Apex gang, of which he is the president. And in that episode, we also kind of weirdly got on to the strange tale of Mr. Nelly Yoa, who is maybe a professional football player? Not really. Definitely a friend of the show. Definitely a friend and listener of the show. Definitely friend and listener of the show.

So, so Nelly, the reason that he was related to that Apex Gang Story is because he kind of has a, just a distinct habit of going on the news and absolutely making up everything that he's talking about. Like, look, that's, it's disputed. Sounds like our bloody politicians. Ha ha ha. Folks up there in camera don't don't th th th don't, don't th thed. Sounds like our bloody politicians. Ha ha ha. Folks up there on camera don't trust him. That's true. So, so just recently, in what we can only assume was about of name-searching,

he found the episode that we talked about him on. It was, it was very old. Only like three months of past in between us talking about him on. Um, it was, it was very old. Only like three months of past in between us talking about him and him responding. So I'm glad that his media team is all over it. And he did respond saying, and I quote, as a friend of the show, I must say this show is a complete shocker, horrendous and utter embarrassment. It's cringe worthy listening. I hear KFC is hiring.

It's a great stepping stone, therefore I'm withdrawing my membership. Please, get off the airwaves. Cease and desist. Okay. Let's... I want to break down a few points here. Okay. I want to know where he heard KFC was hiring. Last time I checked, they were not. Is he talking about... Just KFC, the company is currently hiring.

Somewhere in the world there is a job vacant at a KFC, maybe even KFC HQ. Does he mean like the mascot? Does he mean we could be the next colonel? Oh, I think they've... They've got one. They've got a lady colonel now. Yeah, well, they haven't had an Australian colonel yet. I don't think that's anywhere their list of the things they want to do next. Well, I've been a lot of people thought they weren't going to do a lady colonel.

And then we're going to have an Australian colonel. And that he apparently, well not apparently, he accepted his friend of the show status. He didn't start off by saying, I am not a friend of the show. He's like, well, there's a friend of the show. So friendship, you know, it has to work both ways. And I guess that means he is maybe the first legitimate friend of the show. But then he retracts his membership. Is he saying that he's a paying patron?

I think he might be retracting his membership from the club, but the friendship remains. Yeah, well look he says that he's withdrawing his membership and as I pointed out to him, he is not a patron, he is not technically a friend of the show. It's very difficult to withdraw support that you have not actually given. So I did let him know where he could subscribe, and that as soon as we receive confirmation of his membership, we will immediately apologize. He then asked me if we accept cryptocurrency. That is actually what happened by the way. He seems like you'd be big into cryptocurrency. He would be. Yep. And of course he asks us to get off the airwaves. I don't know if he's talking about Wi-Fi.

Perhaps the cellular data people use to listen to the podcast when they're not at home. And finally ends with the extremely legal sounding term, cease and desist. I think, is he, yeah, he's sort of telling us to cease and desist from podcast, not from mentioning him on the podcast, that he wants us to stop all together. That's the impression that I get. Which to me seems a bit rude. He does just encapsulate it with the show doesn't he? Yeah just say the show please stop go to. Unless he just meant our existence in general. Oh oh that's very maybe we should have reported the tweet we should have this man told us to stop existing entirely. Hmm I don't know you see it seems like a relatively

light-hearted guy for how incredibly strange his media to to to to to to to he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he- he's he's he's he- he he-he- he's he's he's he's he- he's he- he's he- he's just say the show he the show he the show he the show he the show he the show he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he- he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he's th-he's th-he's just just just just just is is is is is is just is is is is just is th-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-he's just just just is just just say th-he's th-he seems like a relatively light-hearted guy for how incredibly strange his media presence is. He is one of the only two people that I have ever written a story about how they're a dickhead and then they've like emailed to be like, hey, I want to talk to you about that fucking story. It was him and Rod Culleton. Wow. Sorry, has he contacted you separately about a different story? Oh, yeah, like five or six months ago. When I wrote a pedestrian story about him, they were like, he said, what did the editor be like, I would like to talk to this Ben McLea fellow. And then, obviously, I never responded.

And then, yeah, I had Rod Culleton like a month ago. Just be like, I would demand a right of reply. But he caught me on one of my days off, and I'm always drunk on my days off. So I decided not to follow through. Yeah, that's fair enough. Well, Nelly is the thank you Nelly. And of course the first being Caleb Bond, who listened to the first five minutes of an episode that we did about him and chose to only focus on

the quote of Ben saying I would like to shoot him with a gun. Took it somewhat seriously. We should definitely mention this at as many episodes as possible really just repeat it as often as we can as Ben's lawyer I would like to point out he never said what kind of gun he never said where he would shoot Caleb yep thank you very not a death threat no really I was thinking maybe kneecapping him with one of those confetti guns you could be tasing him could be any number of options oh stunned gun oh no I was thinking what's a did the to get guns at fire the the the the the the the the the the he the he he to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the to the the to to to to to to to the their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. te. te. te. I te. I te. te. I te. te. te. te. te. t... Can you get guns at fire tranquilizer darts or is that strictly a blowdart situation? No, I think you can. Don't our zoos use that for like, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they're a gorilla's mental. They couldn't get it in time. They could not have to blow his brains out. Yeah, unfortunately they kept their gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they can't get they can't get to get to get they can get that. They can get that. They can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can get they can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can't get to get that. They can't get that. I to get to get that. I can't get to get to get that. I get to get to get that. I get that. I get that. I can't get that. I get that. I can't get that. I can't get that. I can't get his brains out. Yeah, unfortunately they kept their actual gun closer than the tranquilizer gun. They've really rethought now. Well, I also, look, honestly, I got no idea. I got no idea how long gorilla tranks take to kick in either. Well, they're beefy boys. If you just got an angry gorilla, like just hopping around the zoo, and he's pissed. Maybe you can hit him with a a a a a a a a a the the the the the the zoo and he's pissed. Maybe you can hit him with a couple of darts and wait the two minutes. But if he happens to be holding a toddler at the time, how many seconds do you want between spiking him with a dart and waiting for him to pass out? This sounds a lot like one of those hypothetical situations that Jeff Daniels kept quizzing Kianu on in speed.

So my answer would be to shoot the child with the tranquilized by a diffuser situation entirely. It's got to like that thing where they tell you like. And you know that thing where they're like, oh if you fall out a window when you're drunk or whatever you don't break your bones because your body's so relaxed. Yeah. Friend of the show, Ben Jenkins, did a really, really good piece for nailed it just after the Harambe thing happened that the crux of it essentially was, well, if Harambe did have to

die, it should have been another gorilla that shot him. Which is only fair. Makes sense. So, so folks, we had a recent request. Someone pinged us on the old web. The internet. Um, to ask us to just, just follow up on a little, little recent thing about Mark Latham. Old friend of the show, this big overheated melon, Mark Latham.

Which I would like to do, but before we get into that, I thought that I would just run through a little bit of Mark's personal history, because we have spoken about him before and there'd be plenty of people who are aware of him in his current incarnation, might have been a bit too young to remember him when he was a political figure? Could I suggest something? Absolutely. Glory days. Could we split his timeline into pre-decline? Oh, okay.

I like that. But I'm also working on a theory that he was dark Latham. Oh, okay. I like that. But I'm also working on a theory that he was always like this. You think he was always dark lathe. I think there's always these like signs, like things that he said when he was a leader of the opposition? You think this is maybe a Chancellor Palpatine, the the evidence I have gathered? thinn. That is exactly what th. That is? T is? th. T is thi. That is thi. That is thi. T is thi. That is thi. T is thi. That is exactly thi. T is exactly thi. That is exactly thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. theeee. thea. thea. I's is thea. I's thea. theatea. I's thea. I the. I the. I's. Okay. Well, allow me to lay out the evidence I have gathered. First though, I just wanted to quickly run through a bit of his, a bit of his, I guess, younger life. Because I think that when you consider it in the light of the way he presents himself today, it's quite a contrast. So here is a little bit of history about outsider, Mark Latham.

He went to the Hurlstone Agricultural High School, where he was ducks. He went to the University of Sydney, supposedly one of the finest universities in the world where he graduated with a Bachelor of Economics with Honors in 1982. While he was a student, he was an advisor to Labor politician John Karen from to the to Labour politician John Kerr, from 1980 to 82. After completing his degree, he worked as a research assistant to former Labour Prime Minister Goughf Whitlam, from 82 to 87, which included working on his book, the Whitlam government. And then as an advisor to then leader of New South Wales opposition, Bob Carr from 1988 to 1991. In 1987 he was elected to the Liverpool City Council. In Sydney South West and was Mayor, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the he he the the the the the th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked thi thi- thi- th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked th, he worked thi thi-a thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s thi-s the the the the the the the the thi the the thi the thi-s thi-s thi- elected to the Liverpool City Council. In Sydney's southwest and was mayor from 1991 to 94.

In 94, he was then elected to a by-election in the House of Representatives for the Sydney seat of Wuerwa, which had been Gough Whitlam's seat from 1952 to 1978. So it sure sounds a lot like he got parachuted into his mentor's seat. His views alienated him from many labor traditionalists, but his aggressive parliamentary style won in many admirers. He once referred to Prime Minister John Howard as a, quote, arse liquor.

And to the Liberal Party front bench is a Conger line of suck holes. You also described it. I've only saw that in the notes just before for the first time. And the Conger line of suck holes. Putting aside aside my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my to my to my my to my to my to my to my to my the to my political to my for the first time and the congline of suck holes putting aside my political differences with Mark Latham my grievances with his personality in the way that he conducts himself what an incredible formulation of words what a majestic beautiful that's like a cellar door style sentence like even if you didn't speak English and you just heard the sounds, a congline of suckholes, you would know that it was a powerful snippet of words.

It's majestic. What's a suckhole? The butt hole, I assume. I don't know. That's true. No, sorry, I take that back. I assume that it is a mouthhole that is attached to someone else's ass. To me, suckhole is really great because it's evocative.

It's sort of got a, it has notes of a sinkhole-esque kind of flavor, but it's definitely obscene in nature. It's simply delightful. I feel like as the oldest person here, suck hole was like kind of a bogan insult from the 80s. And I'm not really sure what it means either. I kind of always assumed it meant something to do with sucking dick. Yeah, surely.

The hole that you use to suck a dick, yeah. It's like a mouth becomes a suck hole if it's used to suck dicks. Personally, to me, just the phrase conger line of suck holes basically just conjures the image of the human centipet. Yeah, well, you can't really conger. So if you're in a conga line, you can't be sucking the dick or the person can. Yeah. Well, one person can suck a dick. The head of the congeline can. Yeah, no. I mean, like if you were, um, if you were sucking the dick of the person in front of you, you'd have to be kind of, like, underneath them. And then,

you'd have to alternate. Yeah, it would be 6969, which is not at all like a congeline. A congeline is very clearly something where you are holding the hips of the person in front of you sucking their hole. I think we could all agree. I think you might have again confused a congline with the concept of a human Zedip, but the... No, I'll just say it roughly the same. Anatomically, it's the closest thing that we can talk about is a conga line of people. It's a whole bunch of people all holding the hips of the person in front of them. That's what we understand, a congaline to be, right? Yes. I'm following you to thin' this this this their their thuuuuuu. And the closest, and the closest, and the closest, and the closest, and the closest, and the closest, and thi, and the closest, and the closest, and the closest, and their, and their, and th, th, th, th, the closest, the closest, th, th, the closest the closest the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, the closest, thi. And thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, thooooan, thean, thoan, thoan, thoan, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the.a, the closest thing on the butthole, right? Mouth of the butthole. That's the only way you can get to sucking a hole or using your suck hole.

In a conga line. From that position, you can no longer conga. Yeah, I mean it's fair. It's like you'd have to be, no, you'd have to be doing like almost a, uh, like the Cossack dancing kind of kind of hopping along you know. Yeah it'll be hell on your quads. It's a podcast. It's a simplest explanation. It's a simple explanation.

Oh yeah, there we are. So at age 42, Mark Leithen became the youngest leader of the federal parliamentary labor party since its first leader, Chris Watson, who became leader at age 33 in 1901. So just all that context I wanted to give for the idea that this man considers himself a political outsider. A guy who has literally been a political insider since he came of age as an adult, basically. Sounds like pretty much since he was 18 years old. He's been a research assistant and political aid to some of the biggest political figures in the country's history.

After being like ducks of a school and going to a great university and all the real outsider shit. Yep, yep, real outside. Really can't get, in the Australian Labour Party, you really can't get more of a crown pit prints than Goff Whitlam's protege. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So then he was elected, um, the leader of the opposition and went into the election versus John Howard. Little Johnny. Little Johnny Howard. Now there was a whole lot of drama before that about how he came to be leader of the opposition with all the sort of stuff involving

like Kim Beasley and Simon Crean and a bunch of drama and everything. But he did become the leader. And during that election campaign, here are some of the hints, Lucy, that we were discussing of the dark Latham to come. Yes. During the 2004 election campaign, frequent references were made to Latham's temper. He was alleged to have broken a taxi driver's arm and a scuffle arising from a fair dispute. It's also relevant to say that since that time in the last year or two he has absolutely

admitted to doing that and crowed about it on social media. It's the one of his... Call refers to the guy's Mustafa. Yeah, it is pre-outing himself as tweeting from the handle real Mark Latham. Who could have guessed it was him? He wouldn't have got away with it. I know we've spoken about this before, but honestly, honestly, it was just so neatly perfect that they were just like, I mean I'm sure they did work to figure out that this is

how you would do it, but it was just a friend of the show, Mark DeStefano, being like, oh no, it is him. And here are the steps to prove that it is. One, two, three, bam, there it is, perfect. It's him. Like, and there was no recourse. There's no way he could, you know, try and work his way out of it. It's just like, oh, He had a very feeble attempt at it, so good. He's the box-night porno man. In July 2004, Latham again became the center of controversy when it was alleged on a commercial television network that he had punched a political rival during his time on Liverpool Council. Maybe he is good actually. Yeah, so some hints, possibly some hints to the weird brain and temper problems of

Mark Latham. Now here's an interesting thing that I came across when looking at this stuff. Some of the election policies and initiatives introduced during the 2004 election campaign under Mark Latham included. And keep in mind, think of the Mark Latham we know today. When I rattle off to you policies and initiatives such as, a ban on food and drink advertising during children's television viewing hours. A federal ban on plastic shopping bags.

And the introduction of legislation to prohibit vilification on the basis of religious beliefs or sexual orientation. Wow. Ah. Indeed, similar to laws adopted in Victoria that some critics said had led to a restriction of free speech. These initiatives prompted Howard to criticize Latham as a quote, behavioral policeman. Also just as a side note, uh, the first two things on that list, I think we did get the food and drink one, didn't we?

That did happen? That is illegal to advertise those during children's programming? I think so? But the plastic bag thing is like, fucking years away. That's, that's wild. I can't believe they were floating that in 2004. Hmm. But yeah, I thought that was pretty interesting when you look at it in the light of the dark lathe and we all know in love today. And his biggest, the one that got me to vote for him, and I'm not ashamed of saying that, he was very against the Iraq war. Was he? Well, that was, that was, that was, that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that, that was, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, is that he was very against the Iraq war. Was he?

Yeah, well that was an interesting thing, that when apparently the story goes, that Kevin Rudd, I think, was the shadowed defense dude at the time, maybe, or foreign affairs, one of the two. And part of what apparently bought Latham Undone as opposition leader was his absolute refusal to countenance advice from anybody, right? So there's quotes from him saying to his own chief of staff, I don't need a political advisor. I'm the political advisor, which is some awesome I'm the captain now shit. But yeah, so you like, he wouldn't really take advice from anybody and he even wound

up like organizing his own diary and shit because he flew into a rage at the idea of having to go to like meetings that he had not personally vetted and accepted the invitation for. Which you would think is kind of a hard act to keep up as the leader of a political party. Isn't it weird how the top ends up being filled with like insane rage-filled narcissists? So weird. So weird. It's a funny coincidence, that's all. So yeah, so he wouldn't let other people manage his affairs. So what he did was he saw a thing on the news and he phoned Kevin Rudd and left a voicemail on his phone that said, hey, tomorrow morning I'm going to go on the news and say that if I'm elected that we're going to pull all of our troops out of Iraq by Christmas and then promptly switched

off his phone, causing Kevin Rudd to throw insane conniptions as he rang him over and over again, pleading with him not to do it. But lo and behold, Mark Latham came out and said, if we're elected, we're gonna pull out of Iraq, we're gonna get all of our troops out by Christmas. And that allowed John Howard to paint labor as cutting and running on the Iraq war and being soft on terrorism and

all that sort of shit. George Bush weighed in and called it a disastrous. Disastrous, yeah. Which in turn... And he refused it back down even after that too. Yeah, and that in turn led to a big debate in Australia about whether or not George Bush weighing in on it was like a foreign power interfering in a domestic election. So it was quite a thing at the time, wasn't it? And I don't want to paint him as some guy who was like bravely standing up against America, either. He also was very quick to say, oh, we stand by our American allies, blah, blah, blah,

and all the usual stuff, but he did seem pretty firm about pulling Australian troops completely out of Iraq very quickly. He did, however, also describe George W. Bush as, quote, the most incompetent and dangerous president in living memory. So, you know, he came out pretty wild with a lot of stuff. There was, of course, that infamous handshake. Oh, I love the hand-up. Oh, I love the handshake.

Good, actually. Woo, as we say anytime this comes up, please, if you don't know what we're talking about, please, please look up a video of Mark Latham and John Howard and the, the handshake. Literally, if you just Google, Lathham Lathham lathe Latheatheathe lothe lotheathe lathe lathe. Lathe. Lathe. Lut a the first, the first, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th- th- th- thi, thi, th- th- th- th- th- he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. ake. Literally, if you just Google Latham Handshake, it'll be the first thing that comes up. It's one of the first things that comes up if you just go to YouTube and type in Mark Latham, actually. It is such an insane insight into his personality. Well, I have some quotes here that I have not heard before of Latham himself explaining his logic behind it. So you tell me what you think it says about his personality and then I'll tell you what the man himself says.

Well, he thinks being physically dominating is a very literal sign of being better or more powerful than someone. See, I think if he did dominate Howard, it might have worked better than it did, but you've got to give, I won't say you've got to give little Johnny Howard credit, because I don't think bravery is something you necessarily deserve credit for, but little Johnny stood his ground, and Mark Latham is a much bigger, a stronger, younger fella than little nerdy, five-foot-tall gnome John Howard. But he, you know, he stood his ground, he didn't back down, he didn't flinch even a little bit. Which was the genius move, because if you act like a normal person in

that circumstance, Latham looks's the bit of background on it. On the morning of the 8th of October, the day before the election, a television crew filmed Latham and Howard shaking hands as they cross paths outside an ABC studio. The footage showed Latham attempting to draw Howard towards him and tower over his shorter opponent. You really, really yanks him in, doesn't he? It's almost a Trump handshake. It's very close to one. It's only really a couple of degrees off from he's going in for a kiss.

Or just like shoving him, you know, like a, like a, like a getting ready to start a fight, shoving a dude away from you kind of deal. Getting one of his staffers to get on like all fours behind him and then to push him over. So the incident received wide media coverage and while Latham claimed to have been attempting to get revenge for Howard squeezing his wife's hand too hard at a press function. Wow. It was variously reported as being quote aggressive, bullying and intimidating on the part of Latham. You squeezed my wife's hand too hard at a thing. Now I'm going to crush all the bones in your hand in front of all these cameras on the morning of the election.

It was the day before the election. It was the day before. Yeah. That immediately made me think of that, um, they were I know that it was that fucking song by Brad Neely, the Washington one, just about George Washington. I have no idea what you're talking about. No idea. Oh, God damn it. All right, well, this reference just doesn't. It's not landing.

People of the show, friends, fans of the show, people listening to the podcast. If you know what that reference that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, ththe show people listening to the podcast if you know what that reference I was going to make was please reply replied to the I'm just abandoning this I'm done with it I'm done with all it I keep going please moving on and of course the weirdest thing about the whole scenario is just the the crazed rictus grin on his face throughout whole thing. He's got an absolutely maniacal smirk on his face. It's very unsettling. Please watch the video. The Liberal Party campaign director, Brian Lachn said later that this incident generated more feedback to liberal headquarters than anything else during the six-week campaign and that it, quote, brought together all the doubts and hesitations

that people had about Mark Latham. Latham disputes the impact of this incident, however, having described it as a, quote, Tory G-up. We got close to each other, sure, but otherwise it was a regulation man's handshake. According to Latham's account of events, Latham came in close to Howard for the handshake to prevent Howard shaking with his arm rather than his wrist. Extremely normal, super normal stuff. I also feel like that's another one for you, Lucy, of the hints of the mark to come.

Oh yeah, this has always been his personality. Yeah, it's the fact that he thought this was a good idea in the first place. Then the secondary follow-up that he wants to cast it as like defending his wife's honor somehow. And thirdly, that he describes it as a regulation man's handshake. It's automatically something weird about like any, any dude who's fixated on handshakes as like a signifier of masculinity. I think if you have to like justify the form of your handshake or even examine a handshake in any level of detail, you're doing it too wrong.

Like you know, like the handshake of a real estate agent, for instance, that's a studied handshake. You know, they're trying to establish a power dynamic. They're trying to show confidence, whatever. There's someone that's thought about it. And then it's already unnatural. They've ruined it. It should just be a natural gesture.

That's a normal, whatever, whatever're a fucking psychopath. My thought process about handshakes or like the amount, the amount of time that I dedicate to thinking about like how a handshake went, how it felt, all that kind of stuff, lasts exactly as long as the handshake. So like if I shake somebody's hand and it is like cold and sweaty, I think, oh, oh, it's clammy. And then I thank, that's, oh, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, the handshake. So like, if I shake somebody's hand and it is like cold and sweaty, I think, oh, it's clammy, and then I let go and I go about my fucking day. It's the end of it. You don't want to be haunted by a handshake. No, no, I am. Or like, you know, when you shake somebody's hand,

and you just both come in short or whatever it is and you wind up accidentally just grabbing the front section of each other's fingers and it turns into a strange curtsy type thing. I've never done that. And then you just let go and move on with your life. It's fine. You've never done a bad handshake. You've never done a bad handshake. You've never done some horrendous hands. I've done some other's hands. That sounds like you're

scared of catching a communicable disease from each other. No, no, you just, you just, you just undershoot, you just don't go in deep enough. You, one of the other of you who's clamped too early. And then you just let go and go about your day. It's fine. I don't like try and readjust during the handshake. That's a nightmare. You don't want to be trying to like reorient your grip halfway through. No, you just let go and you give it a crack another day, you know. Handshakes are simple. You grab their hand, they grab yours. You grab their thumb, they grab your thumb, you pull out your dagger, you slash

your wrist, he slashes his wrist, you mingle your blood together, you swear some oaths and then you've got a blood brother. It's very simple. I do that every time I meet anyone. My, the number of blood is becoming frankly unmanageable. Hmm, wrist slash to ribbons. Yeah, I'm not doing well for blood. If any listeners have any blood they would like to give away, please send me your blood. Bag it up, bag it up and send it on into Ben. Anything you've got, boxes, thimbles, touple containers, put your

blood in there and give it to me. Just any classification too. Oh yeah, it doesn't matter. He shoves it all in and sees if it works. All right, this might be a really dumb question. Actually in advance I know it is a really dumb question but say you've got 90% of the blood you need in your body right but you need that extra 10% if it would be a huge problem if that 10% was a different blood type because I mean it's it's still 90% the correct blood. Is that? See I solve this problem by just drinking it rather than putting it in my veins.

Don't think that's the I don't think you get the same thing out of it. I think you kind of it. It's like eating a steak you know you get all the good meaty parts out of it. I don't think there's like a little shut off valve that like switches it. It's like, oh, I can taste blood coming. I better shunt this directly into his veins. Oh, you're trying to tell me, Ben? that out of all the cum I've swallowed, none to tell me, Ben? I withdraw the question. Alright, I'm going to leave that point on that image.

So I would like to round out this little history of Latham's political career with some of his stats, which can only be described as Hall of Fame dog shit. Hmm. Michael Latham then went on to lose the election with the government winning an increased majority. He became the first Labour opposition leader since Frank Tudor in 1917 to fail to make a net gain in seats from the government at his first election. In January 2005, citing life-threatening illness and family concerns, he announced his resignation

from the Labour Party leadership and from Parliament. He had been federal leader for 13 months, the shortest tenure since Billy Hughes was expelled from the party in 1916. Latham was only the second federal labor leader after Matthew Charlton in 1928 to leave politics without ever having held ministerial office. What a fucking loser. What a bunch of airballs. Just terrible stuff all around. And then he fucked off in a media land to pretend to do some kind of rough and

tumble working class man from the suburbs instead of a guy who's literally been a political insider for his entire adult life. And that brings us to today. That's some terrible stats though. It really are. Yeah, he is exceptionally good at getting fired and losing, basically. What's the election he's been fired from pretty much every other job he's had since... You know, it's funny though, is that he's good at getting fired in the sense that it happens to him with an alarming frequency, but he's also good at getting fired and that he's been fired so many times and yet he's still somehow still going.

Like you think he would run out of jobs at some point? Well, let's examine the inverse of this. Yes, he gets fired a lot, yes he gets fired all the time. But doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that th th th th th th th th th th th th thoes thoes tho thi thi. tho' tho-hea tho-hea tho-hea tho-hea tho-hea tho-hea th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's theeeeeeea. He's thean. theanan. theaugh. thea thea thea thea. He's thea thi gets fired all the time. But doesn't that really tell us that he's great at getting hired? Oh, ooh. That's a lovely little top gun that getting fired. Funny that you raise that, Matt, because as has been noted by dear friend of the show, Richard Cook, he said recently online, Mark Latham has now been fired by the Daily Telegraph, Rebel Media and his own fan club,

cementing his position as Australia's most fired man for all time. Getting fired from your own fan club is really something else. It's pretty good, isn't it? He went on to say his videos appear to be archived alongside former contributors on rebel media. The site is cooked so it's hard to tell but seemingly no new episodes for some time. Somebody has replied to Richard saying I've been fired more than that he's a lightweight. To which Richard replies are not included in that list Sky News Channel 9 the Australian Labor Party, the Australian Financial Review and Spectator Australia. You are like a little baby being fired. And losing an election is like getting fired by the Australian people.

Yeah, very much. Very much. So, so as you mentioned, Matt, getting fired by his own fan club. So on, after getting sacked from several of his news drops for things like you know calling a teenage boy a homo on the news and constantly attacking Australian of the year Rosie Batty for for daring to talk about her son being murdered, attacking any women who said that they've ever used any kind of medication to help manage their mental health. A lot of really great moves that he's made.

He then did his whole YouTube channel, I know it was Facebook Live TV show, Mark Latham's Outsiders, where he begged for money and posted extremely weird episodes of his show. He then criticized his own Facebook group following Mark Latham Outsider's supporters group, it was called, at some point he criticized them and they kicked him out and changed the name. Was he specifically talking about the anti-Semitism in there? Was that what he was? Well maybe and let me just tell you what they changed the name to. And you tell me if you think that's what it's about. They changed the name of the group to

Right-wing Australia, Gen Zyclon. Wow. What does that mean? Uh, Zyclon was the gas they used in the gas chambers during the Holocaust. Oh, okay. Yep. Yeah, that might be. I reckon there might be a through line there maybe. And a friend of the show Jason Wilson has posted a screen capture of the screening question that you get asked that that th that that that th that th th th that th th th th that th th th th th th th th th th th you you you you th you you you th you you you you you you you you you you that that thi you you you thi thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi thi thi the the the th. Wow th th. Wow th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the thin thin thin thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin. thin. thi thi thi thi thi thi be a through line there maybe. And a friend of the show, Jason Wilson, has posted a screen capture of the screening question that you get asked when you try to join what used to be the Mark Latham Outsider Supporters group on Facebook. And the question that you get asked by admins is, do you believe that we must secure the existence of our people and a future for our children? Okay. Wow. Someone had replied that's that that that tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha the the the the the the the the the the the is the is tho. their tho. their their tho tho tho. tho. their their their their tho. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I m. I m. I m. I m. I mc. I mc. I mc. I mc. I mc. I mc. I mc. I mc. I'm thea. I'm thean. I'm thean. I, wow. Someone had replied to that

being like I'd got taken over by like meme people or whatever which is why the name and that is so memey, but as we've talked about before, if you're very flippantly adopting extreme racism and extreme anti-Semitism as a meme thing, I don't think your actual beliefs are probably too far away from what you are doing. Well, I mean, we have had this whole conversation before as well about, like, you know, if you adopt any particular thing either for a joke or to further your career. I mean, like, people like Milo Eonopoulos seem like a

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that seems very much oriented around the idea of saying an offensive thing is the funny thing. And in trying to come up with examples of conservative comedians who are funny, I couldn't, but I could come up with examples of comedians who are deliberately offensive as part of their humor, but that involves the very, very obvious caveat of as long as it involves actual artistry and construction of jokes and like performance and all that sort of stuff. So and like and the example.

Dave Chappell is like a great example. Yeah, yeah, like he has plenty. I think those recent specials of his that he's done like I think if you watch those and actually listen to them it's to me it's very hard to come away with that, from that with the idea that he's actually hateful towards any of the things he jokes about. He always bookends everything he's saying with like very, very, you know,

empathetic and sympathetic statements about people. The example I used on that episode was Anthony Jeselnik, where like his entire thing is, these are very offensive jokes. But he also makes it really clear throughout his act that like, he's, the whole thing is a bit. He's putting on a personality. Like, the whole construction of the jokes revolves around where is the turn in this joke going to be for the offensive punch line to come in. like, um, yeah, yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th-these, th-thea, th- th- th- tho, thoes are, thi's are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are are, thoes are, thoes are are are, thoes are, thoes are are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, thoes are, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, tho-a, tho-a, tho-a tho-a thoa thoa thoa tho-s are thoa tho-s are tho-s are tho' jokes in this joke going to be for the offensive

punchline to come in. Like, um, but yeah, like, you know, subscribe to the show and go and go and listen to that one if you want the whole explanation, but, but yeah, just the whole saying offensive shit for the sake of saying it, you are also going to net up a whole bunch of people who think that stuff for real and they're just glad someone's saying it. That was the other funny thing that I brought up in that episode was a, there was a funny crossover between those two of Owen Benjamin saying, oh, Anthony Jeselnik blocked me on Twitter. I thought he was supposed to be the guy who doesn't give any fucks.

And Anthony Jeslinic quoted him and said it's because you're an unfunny alt-right fuck who's constantly having massive meltdowns online with my name in your mouth I don't give a fuck about you and you have nothing of value to say it's like that's a pretty severe dunking it was a huge dunking a slam dunk Lucy did bring one final thing to my attention about Mark Latham. It was a huge dunking, a slam dunk. Lucy did bring one final thing to my attention about Mark Watham, which was that he has an entire section of his Wikipedia title, Incident at Hungry Jacks. Oh.

It's so good. All of us should aspire to have that, like to A, have a computer article and B, have a section title as such. Finally Hemingway has been dethroned. It's really shoes for sale never worn. It sounds like a really bad sequel to Picnic and Hanging Rock. It's a truly, truly terrible. So apparently in 2006 he was eating with his two sons at Hungry Jack's Restaurant in Cambletown, New South, when he was photographed by Ross Schultz, a photographer in the Daily Telegraph. Schultz alleged that Latham snatched the camera and smashed it, without destroying the electronic

media that contained the photographs. It was reported that Latham called Shilts a pedophile, presumably because he thought Shelt had taken pictures of his sons. The telegraph announced plans for upcoming publication of the photographic images and that it would be seeking $12,000 from Latham to replace the equipment. The following day, Latham appeared to drive towards a Channel 7 cameraman at his Sidney home. The photographer was unhurt but 7's head of news said the footage clearly showed Latham's car veer towards the cameraman as he stood on the side of the road. In 2006 the the with assault, malicious damage, and theft in relation to the incident. Latham did not appear in Campbelltown local court to face the charges, instead giving a lecture

to a political science students at the Australian National University. When asked by a student how he could blame everyone else but himself, Latham replied, quote, I'm sorry I didn't come in here and expose myself as a miserable ass wipe. Wow. God bless. Beautiful. Yep. What a gun. Top gun.

What a great guy. So folks, there's a bit of history on the weird unit known as Mark Latham, just for you. And at this point, I think we should probably take some questions. We do have a couple of questions about Latham, just for you. And at this point, I think we should probably take some questions. We do have a couple of questions about Latham, if you'd like to take them? Yes. Um, this is a good one. Fred of the show James asks, which current sitting MP or senator will inherit Latham's brainworms upon leaving politics?

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Yeah. So, I don't know, anybody got any alternatives to say it? Hmm. Are we talking just labor? I don't think it has to be labor. Although, I mean, like... Oh, if it's not just labor, there's so many. Yeah, I think the problem is when you're talking about the right wing of Australian politics, the brainworms are already... Yeah, they're all cooked. Yeah, and they're on display well before anyone's leaving politics.

James Patterson is going to be a really, really, really fucked up person by the time he leaves. Oh yeah, yeah for sure. Hmm. I hate that guy. I hate hate that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. that that thatheatheat that that that thatheat that th. th. th. th. th. thathea the the that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the less little shit to the show I would like to fight him I'm not very strong and I'm Five foot seven but I feel like I could take him he is transparent He looks it looks like he would snap at a strong breeze doesn't he does? Who got in trial for saying that he looked like he belonged in the Hitler youth? Oh, it was a Kim car wasn't it? I can't remember he apologized. He apologized? He? He? He? He? He? He he? He he? He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he would he would th th th th th th like th like th like to th like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I would th. I would would would would th. I would th. I would th. He would th. He would th. He would th. He would th. He would th. He would th. He would th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the for saying that he looked like he belonged in the Hitler youth. Oh, it was Kim Carr, wasn't it? I can't remember. He apologized. He apologized afterwards. There's spot on, though.

A friend of the show, huge fuckwit K. Morrissey from Twitter. asks. If we sent Mark Leitham to Syria to shake Assad's hand, would that bring peace to the Middle East? No, I think Assad, the beautiful line, would absolutely crush every bone in Latham's hand, head but him, and that would be that. Well, Latham would die from the Assad curse, wouldn't you? Mmm, that's true. So, we do have some other questions here. We're going to see how many of these we can get in.

Smash them out. Got a little bit left. All right, this one's a bit long. It's a bit long, but I think it's worthwhile. In front of the show, Dominic Guilfoyle says, I'd be interested in your thoughts on some of Australia's political comedian, thr-sette, thr-oi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. satirists. Ever since people have finally started actively calling out Chris Lily on his racist bullshit, I've been wondering if the people I grew up watching were actually ever good, or if it was all kind of just trash like lilies. The Chase's stuff has been a bit toothless for a while, but were they ever

actually any good? John Safran has produced some truly bat shit stuff over the years. The Wikipedia article for race relations is so insane that I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it on TV. But was, but there was a time when people really paid attention to him. Was it just because he intentionally courted controversy? Basically, are there any political comedian slash satirists who you guys think are actually worth people's time? Sean McAuliffe. Yeah, sure McCullough is good. I think he's lost a bit of his edge, but he's still pretty funny. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm theateateateateateateateateateat. I's toge. I's th. I'm th. I'm funny I think maybe the nature of the show that he's doing he's not his yeah he hasn't really had his uh since our news topia he hasn't really had that show where he's got complete control I feel like I feel like I feel like they maybe has a bit of editorial interference on mad as hell sometimes do you ever watch that um what was the game show that he hosted that the the the game. the game. the game. the game. the game. the game. the game. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te um, what was the game show that he hosted, that talking about my generation or whatever?

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I still love the McCartleff program so much that is one of the all-time greatest Australian things I was just talking about that to someone the other day and just started ended up looking up clips of like David McGann's world on I can I lose my shit every time I think about that um fucking the cats thing where he's like uh all cats are brown as this exception to the rule proves is one of my favorite sentences in the cats thing, or he's like, uh, all cats are brown, as this exception to the rule proves, is one of my favorite sentences in the world. The Dracula sea change skit was to start, just to show sea change except with Dracula for Brimstoke is Dracula. It's very, very good.

Fuck and I was watching some of the Roger Explosion stuff the other day. It's so incredibly good. Every time he misses his the the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the rule the the the the rule the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the rule the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their the Roger Explosion stuff the other day. It's so funny. So incredibly good. Every time he misses his mark or something or says one of the other actors' minds. That's fucking so good. I do think the chaser used to be good. I think they just, I think it happens to a lot of communities. They just got old and too comfortable. Yeah. I never really like the chaser guys. I like no offense to them I they just always kind of rub me up the wrong

way is a bit like smarmy private school they are very scared yeah. So it really does that's funny. It was very good. Yeah that's good shit. I also there there was specific skits on on their shit that I just really didn't like in the in the way of like. I will never forget the one they did where they were like, ski masks have a really bad reputation or like balaclavas or stockings or whatever, you know, they're like they've got a really bad rap and we're trying to reform them and then they would like put on ski masks and go into convenience stores and the dudes behind the counter would freak the fuck out my favorite kind of pranks are ones where people fear for their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the counter would freak the fuck out. My favorite kind of pranks are ones where people fear for their lives.

That's a good prank. Yeah, yeah, and they would be like, ha ha, I got them. And they go, I just want to buy some gum. Be like, yeah, that's really, any fucking prank, in inverted commas that involves, um, exactly what you would think was going to happen in that situation happening. It's not actually fine. This is why we can't do satire, bloody PC police like Andrew over here. Just ruining everything.

Oh, you triggering the convenience store workers PTSD. Yeah. Yeah. What a utopia was pretty good. Mmm, utopia is good. That was very funny. It's not, you know, like, political satire of anything specific. It's, you know, like, fucking, uh, thick of it style, general, political mechanics, whatever, but it was very, very good.

Hmm. Watch, Utopia, folks. All right, we got a, we've got a... I think front line still holds up to. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's, absolutely. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. It's, th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's not, th. It's not, th. It's not, th. It's not, you, you, you, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. th. It's not, th-a. th-a. th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. th-a. tho-a. tha. tha. tha Utopia, folks. All right, we've got to crash. Frontline still holds up to. Oh, absolutely. That's a very old one. Yeah.

Yeah. All right, folks. Now we're transitioning to the most important questions of all. These are the questions addressed directly to Matt Brady. Are we ready? Mm-hmm. The friend of the show, average, average asks, how long till Matt Brady successfully manages to make Newcastle an independent caliphate under Sharia law?

Well to start with, I would actually be a Shia caliphate and they don't have a caliphate, so... Do they? Oh, you said that was so much confidence. I was very impressed. I'm gonna get in trouble now. Yeah, you're on a watch list. Ooh. My husband's are gonna think I'm so uncruly. Uh, oh, we have a question from a wife of the show.

M-uh. Kis, kn, kis. Hey, can everyone do a lot of kisses down the a like a big it really bothers one of our listeners? Yeah. Oh, a big wet smooch for you. Oh, no, I don't like it. No, I don't like it. Stop it. Wife of the show, Mick Marks, asks. Is the Apex gang in Newcastle more likely to be found in Fannies or Dux Nuts? Definitely the Ducks Nuts. What's a Ducks Nuts?

Oh, well, Fennies and Ducks Nuts are like the two bars slash nightclads to open the latest. Wow. Great names. Yeah, the Ducks Nuts is, uh, I think it used to, I don't know if it still is. It's been a few years since I've been to the old Ducks Nuts. I don't think it's actually there anymore, actually. But it was for quite a time the only bar in the CBD that was 24 hours. What a beautiful city. And I think Fenny's was more of a nightclub, but it was normally open to about 5 a.m. Okay. Somehow. That's where you go after the gang meeting, you know?

Yeah, but no, definitely the ducks nuts. Oh yeah. All right. Oh, and the final question. Now I, I, when I saw this question, I was like, wow. We are going to need several minutes for this one. It's a real-S- That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where that's that's where that's that's where that's that's that's. That's that's. That's. That's they. That's they. That's they. That's the they. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. that's that's that's that's the th. that. to need several minutes for this one. It's a real Sophie's choice kind of scenario. Are you ready for it, Matt? I'm ready. Friend of the show Mark Lewis asks, what gets Matt more excited? Bin Night or Mowing

the Lawn? This is actually an easy one, I feel like it's definitely mowing the lawn. Yeah, more of a sense of accomplishment Yeah, it's it also takes longer so it's more enjoyable bit nights, you know It's over and done with it. We've been a couple of minutes really yeah, that's true. You never really you know I've got a pretty big yard. It takes about probably an hour and half to two hours if I'm doing the edges as well God damn. So it's, so I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th is's th th th th is th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. tak tak tak tak tak tak tak tak tak tak. tak. tak. tak. tak. tak. tak. tak. t tak. t t tak. t tak is tak. th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is that thi that thi that that that tha tha tha tha tha tha ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta t two hours if I'm doing the edges as well. God damn. It's a big lot. Yeah, it's a big yard. Yeah, see, yeah, I agree with you. You don't get a particular sense of satisfaction from putting the bins out. All you really get is that a sense of dread when you hear the bin trucks and realize you have not put the bins out. So there's more of a potential for just a bad time with the bins.

I do get a brief little flare of victory if I'm the first person in my street have the bins out. But it doesn't last very long. Whereas once I mow the lawn and it looks all nice, that can last a week or two every time I pull up and see how nice and all the edges are straight and, oh god, it's so... The last house we lived in, we had a couple of big ass lawns and they had not been taken care of very well, they were extremely overgrown and everything.

So you know when you cut them back and they're like really patchy underneath and all that sort of thing. And it was a real long-term pleasure project to like mow them every week and they just slowly grew in and got thick and spongy and evenly covered. Had a really good long-term sense of accomplishment out of that one. Beautiful. It was very nice. Then we moved away and I was like, fuck that lawn.

Burn it down for all I care. Now I don't have a lawn. No, no, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not, that's not, that's not, that's not, I's not, I's not, I's not, I's. Now I don't have a lawn. Oh no, that's not true actually. I have, I'm gonna say about three meters squared of lawn. I just got a lawn for the first time. I'm gonna have to buy a mall. Congratulations. Thank you very much guys.

It feels really good. All right, you're all buggy. I'm the poor person on the podcast. to. Don't have to rub it in. You live by yourself. You can't do that poor if you choose to live by yourself. You could live in Brisbane. I have a rock garden. I have a rock bed. You chose to live in like the second most expensive city in the country. You fucking get what you deserve. I didn't choose this life. I live in a suburb in Newcast. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I their. I th. I th. I th. I their. I their. I their. I their. I th. I th. I th. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I th. I have. I have. I th. I th. I the. I have. I the. I have. I have the. I the. I have. I have the. own houses and lawns. It's a dream.

Lucy, you could grow like a little thing of wheat grass that you could cut every now and then with some scissors, you know? I could do that. A little bonzi lawn. Oh, that's a cute idea. Get some more plants. Yep. Legal plants, just ferns and stuff.

thanks, just ferns and stuff. Anybody's listening. Oh, I bloody saw Dan Andrews came out today. Yeah, I saw that post. Yeah, no plans to decriminalize weed in the future from the Andrews government. Yeah, he'll come around. He'll come around to it. Fuck off, Danny. The sign's coming off. But to be fair. Offer of the podcast, we'll smoke you out.

We will do that. We will do that. Too fair, when he posted like, ah, Victoria's, the big medicinal marijuana state, everyone's like, ah, disgusting criminal, Daniel Andrews, loves drugs and the Apex gang, etc. Our two favorite things, smoking weed and African crime. That's right. Yeah. Well, um, well at least he can rest comfortably knowing that he is only being threatened by fucking Matthew Guy. I like that guy. I like ridiculous piece of shit politician ever. That guy absolutely ridiculous.

Everything he does is the dumbest shit ever. He's very bad, incredibly unlikable. He's very clearly been super corrupt the opinion. He's very bad, incredibly unlikable. He's very clearly been super corrupt the entire time he's been a politician nor an opposition leader when he was the planning minister, God damn. He's got two first names for a name and I don't trust him. I really enjoy them. It definitely be against legalizing marijuana because it might negatively impact the businesses of some of his friends.

In the waste management business, wink, wink. Wink, wink. Oh dear. I enjoy that his surname makes any headline about him sound really non-specific. Like a satire. Yeah. It sounds like an onion headline, yeah. Yeah. Guy refuses to do criminalize marijuana. Yeah, great. Okay.

We're writing headlines when anyone does anything? Cool. Yeah. All right, folks. Probably gonna wrap it up there. As always, we would like to thank a dear beloved friend Matt Brady for coming on the show. Matt, would you like to nominate this week's crime pass? Oh, this week's crime pass? Ooh. This week's crime pass.

This week's crime pass is for a friend of the show, Nelly Yoa, and Snitches get stitches. That's all I'll say. Wow. Wow. We need a lawyer. It sounds like a threat, but tell you what folks, it's not. It's definitely not. It's a promise. It sounds like a threat but tell you what folks it's not. It's absolutely not. It's definitely not. It's a promise. Yeah, just send in that Bitcoin, Nelly. It's what

we're waiting for. Send in that crypto. You've got so much of it apparently. Prove it. I have no idea what to do with it, but once we get it, we'll figure it up. You can use it to buy drugs. That's what I've th th. Oh. I have two heard this. Silk Road. Mm-hmm. As always, if you would like any bonus episodes of the show, you can head on over to Patreon.com, forward slash Buntavista. Subscribe for the mere cost of a small amount of money for a period of time. And we got some merch now. If you want to buy a shirt? Maybe a stubby holder? I would think if I saw someone wearing a Buntavista shirt that they were very cool and handsome and sexually appealing. It's true. Yeah, and that's so true. Yeah, and that's about it from us folks. So until next week we'll see you then. Bye-bye. Hi. Hi. you to be