Boonta Vista - EPISODE 52: Penis Backerman

Episode Date: June 18, 2018

Andrew, Ben and Theo are talking about the infamous Poo Jogger and Big Baby Jarrod Bleijie's latest antics. Folks, you'd better saddle up for the return of Penis Whackerman. Support the show and get ...exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Bonte Vista episode 52. That's right folks, 52 weeks in the year. 52 stars on the American flag. 52 stars on iTunes. That's right. That's right. A very well-regarded show. 52 stars. Although someone did leave us a negative review on Facebook recently for encouraging crimes.
Starting point is 00:00:51 So that we say... I mean it's funny because the crime they were a great they were a great-like. told you're encouraging was looking at your phone when you stopped at a red light unlike all the other crimes we have quite actively encouraged which involve murder murder assault vandalism all kinds of stuff well vandalism is not a crime to art man it's true uh... so what are we going on the news this week folks
Starting point is 00:01:19 and by folks i mean both you guys and everybody who's listening and by you you guys, I mean Ben and Theo. Hi guys. Hey, hey. Is that the introduction? That was incredible. I worked my way back around to it. That's fine, we'll get there in the end.
Starting point is 00:01:38 We got a lot on today, that's all. You may remember, a couple of weeks weeks ago we talked about former Queensland what was he the the justice minister minister for duchery Jared Blage. I think that's an official title but. Can I pull the curtain back here a little bit? Yeah. Just you know I don't know I don't want to know if I'm showing my ass here or anything. Are we saying his name wrong as a joke? That's his name, isn't it? Blage? No, no.
Starting point is 00:02:10 How does one pronounce his name? It's Jared Bligey. Yeah. Well, there there go. I just thought, because we've been doing it now over the course of maybe three episodes that I thou I was missing something. Nope, I just very genuinely thought that was his name? Well, I mean to be fair, his name is fucked because there's, you can't have three letters that have a dot above them in a row, in a name, to my mind. Yeah, his name looks like the three-eyed fish from the Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Jared Blinky, back in the news. We can pull those curtains back closed again. No need to look behind there anymore. Please don't look behind my curtains. So he's a bit of a free speech warrior, as was evidenced a couple of weeks ago when he posted something about, just being mad about genders and on Twitter and about roughly a thousand Twitter users said, shut up, dickhead, including Avarian, Lucy Valentine. To prove that he wasn't mad, Jared then made a video of himself reading out the tweets and saying, it's fine, it doesn't even offend me, I'm not angry. And I think you'll find that you're proving my point by calling me a dickhead.
Starting point is 00:03:30 That's right. And nothing proves, of course, that people are intolerant of getting to speak their mind, like reading out all the things people have said that you didn't like and that they shouldn't have said that you didn't like and that they shouldn't have said to you. So you know he did a great job there of proving that he believes in free speech and everyone having a right to their own say and also that he wasn't mad and that his big big diaper wasn't full by doing that but he's back in the media this week being a great big snowflake once again about free speech.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The Guardian reports advertising executive and commentator D. Madigan is refusing to delete a social media post mocking the Queensland opposition front pagea front front front pencher Jared Bligie. Despite being referred to the powerful ethics committee. D. Madigan last month posted a gift of Bligie ripping up a piece of paper in State Parliament with the comment, your taxes at work, a toddler tantrum for Jared Bligey MP. After seeing the tweet, he complained to the Speaker Curtis Pitt who referred Madigan to the Ethics Committee because under parliamentary rules vision from the floor of the house can't be used for quote satire or ridicule. This is such a good a the the, don't use video of us looking like Dweems to make fun of us.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. If I say something really stupid up there, I don't want anybody making a point out of it. Well, also is it, is the ethics committee powerful, or are they the committee for powerful ethics? for powerful ethics. Oh, that's a good question. It's like the powerful owl, you know. I love the powerful owl. Hmm. Yeah, that's a bit of a strange one to me because,
Starting point is 00:05:14 as Madigan goes on to point out, she's previously refused to remove the tweet when contacted by the clerk of parliament. And on Friday again, tweeted that she would be leaving the post up. Quote, if this is is this this is is this is this is this is thii thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, the power, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the power, the power, the power, the power, the power, their, their, their of parliament. And on Friday again, tweeted that she would be leaving the post up. Quote, if this is upheld, it means no one on social media can retweet or share with comment any parliamentary footage, even if it has been on the news or streamed live or shared by politicians themselves, Madigan wrote. This precedent on free speech is extraordinary. It is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:41 The gift was from an ABC broadcast. And then she went on to share to share to share to share to share to share to share to share to share to share the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, the their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, the c. It, the c. It, the c. It, the c. It, the c. It, the c. It, the c. It's, th. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. the. th. th. the. th. th. the.'s own account in which he had shared vision from the floor of the house to ridicule a member of of the Labor Party. Because he's a really smart guy. So a big, a big shut up dickhead to Jared Bligie. Maybe just retire. Nobody likes you. It's got that extremely private schoolboy vibe about him. I have his Wikipedia page open at the moment and the photo is just making me so fucking mad.
Starting point is 00:06:15 He's got a, I mean, obviously he's bad because of the things that he does, not because of how he looks, but also he's a fucking huge forehead. Just massive. What a dickhead. So we'll see how that one turns out. Hopefully, D. Madigan does not get, I don't know, prosecuted in some form or anything like that. But we'll see, we'll see what happens, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Fingers crossed. But for now, we've got to cover some really important news, folks. Really serious important folks. Like, Poo Jogger Watch. No. No. Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Yeah, Poojoga. Well, someone was watching the poo jogger? Sure, a heroic citizen journalist. The classic question, who
Starting point is 00:07:11 watches the poo joggers? It's finally been answered. It's us, nationally. Just the idea that the words poo jugger were trending on Twitter and Australia for like 48 hours. It's genuinely incredible. And in the mainstream media as well, like it's genuinely in the zeitgeist. That's the name that he ended up with and all of us grown adults were like, yep. Yep. Got it. Poo jogger.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Um, I'm sure we're going to get to it. But if you're like international listener and you haven't experienced this yet, just Google the words poo jogger and find the first image that comes up. Because it is incredible. It's one of the true gifts of, you know, you've got the independent journalism. Absolutely. Like, I think we'll be studying it like 20 years from now. Let me hit the good people with a bit of context. Allow me to play this clip from the news.
Starting point is 00:08:12 He's the Brisbane businessman, Busted, doing his business. The man with a preference for private pathways was dubbed poo jogger by fed up residents. They claimed for months human waste kept appearing in their unit complex so Steve and a neighbor set up a sting. My goodness. My goodness. Now so folks that's right we're talking of course about Aveo Aveo Group's National Quality Manager, that's an insurance company, Andrew McIntosh, who has resigned after being identified as Brisbane's notorious poo jogger. I hope you guys are proud of Brisbane's own here.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Oh, I'm so proud. I'm beaming with pride in my god. It's I'm flying the Brisbane flag outside my house right now, which is just a Vib can being hurled at a gay person. It is alleged that Mr. McIntosh fouled the private footpath that a department blocked near his Green Slopes Home 30 times over the last year. 30 times. That's a lot of chards. That's dedication. On Thursday morning, the day after Rupert Murdoch's courier mail alleged that he was the poo jogger and said he had been charged by the police, the company announced he had resigned. Quote, until yesterday, Avea Group was not aware of the charges laid against Mr. McIntosh, said a company spokesman.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Aveyor group is distressed and disappointed at the alleged incidents concerning Mr. McIntosh. He has tended his resignation to the company today and is no longer an employee of Aveo Group. And here's a bit I didn't know. It's unwelcome publicity for the Australian Stock Exchange listed at Avea, which is still recovering from the Fairfax Media investigation last year, which claimed that the company exploited its elderly residents for financial gain. Oh, classy stuff. Classy stuff. Now, you might be asking yourself, how did he get caught? And the answer is, some of his neighbors decided to set up like like, infrared, CCTV cameras around their properties. And the footage that they got was never quite clear enough for them to ascertain his identity. But they figured out
Starting point is 00:10:35 what day, what days of the week and what times he was turning up. So I loved this clip from the news with the man himself who got the photo, in which he explains exactly what went down when he obtained that infamous photo. Here we go. Installing an infrared motion sensor camera. explains exactly what went down when he obtained that infamous photo. Here we go. Installing an infrared motion sensor camera. We knew that Monday, Wednesday and Friday mornings he was running past and always down 5.30. Then Steve staked out the scene. And it took a couple of weeks of being out each morning waiting. Finally snapping, a clean image.
Starting point is 00:11:01 That particular morning, I saw him run up the party, it was three minutes late. His reaction? He just said, hello. There's so much going on in that one little clip. Well it took several weeks, several weeks of this guy being out at like 5 a.m. Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, literally lying in the bushes near his own property, just hoping that this guy would come past his regular time and take a shit on the path out the front of his house.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He was three minutes late. A little behind schedule, maybe he had a bit of trouble with the first turd he was dropping up. There's just so many questions. Like, did he pick one place each day? Was he pinching off? Like, was he distributing one or more turds across various properties throughout the day? Who knows? And of course, I did read a clip various properties throughout the day. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:12:05 And of course, I did read a clip of the same guy talking about, you know, the actual photo where he caught him. And as you said, Theo, it's a captivating image. We have there a man in his 60s, bent over at the waist, half squat, jogging shorts around his knees, pile of excrement directly underneath his butt, and he is just turning his head to the side. Almost like that iconic, like five frames of bigfoot. Yes, directly at the camera. 100%.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yep, he's just turned to look directly down the barrel of the camera and he just has the he looks like he's posing for the photo he looks absolutely serene. No look at the the the guy who took the photo said that yeah he went to take the photo and like the red light came on first, which is what made him turn to look and see what it was and then the flash in him. Ah, the earful. My goodness. I think, so I've told a couple of people about this because obviously it's the best fucking thing that's ever happened in the history of mankind. Uh, and people were like, the the th. th. th. thu thu-I thu-I heu-I heu-a, heu, heu, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, ththa, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, the the the the thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, that, the that, that, that, that, that, thi. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, thi, thi, thi. history of mankind. And people were like, oh, was it like a, like a medical problem? Did he just really have to go? I was like, well no, because he did this regularly,
Starting point is 00:13:31 three times a week, constantly. And he had to toilet paper on him. It's not like he was like, oh fuck, I have the worst IBS in the world. I've got to shit, I've got a shitmeditation. Yeah, he was always ready to shit. Just ready to go locked and loaded man. Like I mean personally I've got to say I admire like whatever discipline this guy is enforcing in his diet that allows him to know that he's going to be like primed and ready to go at the same time every morning. Either that or he's showing enormous discipline in holding onto it until he gets
Starting point is 00:14:05 there. You know, one of the other. But yeah, and so people have speculated about what is this guy's motivation. Is he just, is it some weird spiteful thing? Does he just hate his neighbors? Is it a weird sex thing? Is it an exhibitionist thing or whatever? Have you guys sort of seen on Twitter like a week after the fact? Have you seen like the woke takes starting to roll in? No. No. Yes. I did see one, one tweet. earlier which was questions we should be asking about hashtag poo jog. Good
Starting point is 00:14:46 that you use the hashtag because you're concerned about him. One, was it responsible journalism to name him? Two, has the media done any research into possible medical or mental health issues before humiliating this person? Three, is anyone concerned about the effect that this will have on him? And like... I think it's safe to say nothat this will have on him? And like... I think it's safe to say no to all of those questions? Yeah, but also it's just too funny to worry about that kind of stuff. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I mean, I had seen somebody say in response to this that, like, well, you know, he's... He's a reasonably high-level executive of a publicly traded company. Yeah. So, his name sort of becomes relevant in the sense that this company is very much going to want to not have anything to do with him after this. Was he fired? Did I miss that part? He resigned. Although I imagine, like it could have gone
Starting point is 00:15:48 either way, surely, of them just being like, hey man, you really need to fucking leave. Well, yeah, I think the company did say that they were like extending whatever help he needed after this point. And they were a bit concerned about him or whatever. But like, yeah, I don't know, I mean, like, this, I am absolutely no kind of expert on this sort of thing as to where the line is between things like what is, what is a mental health issue issue and like what is a kink, you know, and what is... and then you can go one step further there to say some people would have the kink of, for example, like having sex in public or, um, or, you know, like particularly risky sexual behavior or something like that.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Not that I'm necessarily implying that taking a shit on other people's footpaths is like a sexual behavior for this guy. It is, it may have, well, yeah. It may have been a weird exhibitionist, like, combined with the risk of maybe getting caught doing something that's very taboo or whatever. But like, where does that sort of stuff then cross into the realms of, and I would argue this probably does, where does that sort of stuff cross into the realms of like, I'm sure that there are some people who get off on like flashing other people.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah, and at that point it's bad because you are involuntarily involving other people in your kink. Like you are, well obviously with stuff like flashing, you're just sexually assaulting people by that point. But does this fall into the same sort of category of if you are leaving other people to clean up your fucking human turds outside of their house every day because it's a thing that you get a weird thrill out of? do you, do you have any particular right to to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. the. theateat. theat. theat. theat. theat. Well. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, their their theurds outside of their house every day because it's a thing that you you get a weird thrill out of? Do you do you have any particular right to be protected under the idea of is it a mental health issue? That's a good question. Hmm well thank you for taking the time to consider it. I mean I don't know what the answer is there. Like, it's one of those things where people are like,
Starting point is 00:18:06 oh, don't kink shame people. And you're like, well, you know, like you're saying, if those are kinks that involve other people without their consent, then fuck off. That's just being a shithead. And I don't know. If it's a mental health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health tha health, if it's a mental thu health, if it's a thu health, thu health, if it's ato get along in society that he can be a rich person so who fucking cares? Yeah pretty much I mean like everything about the situation suggests that he's a person who's very in control of his
Starting point is 00:18:35 faculties. Very in control of his bowels. Yep it's all extremely timed and premeditated and routine and all that sort of stuff. I mean, um, who knows? But yeah, in this particular guy's case, I kind of think as well that if you're, if your kink or your, whatever, your weird fetish or your foyeristic or exhibitionist thing or whatever, involves getting out into the public to do it and involves doing things that affect other people and involves particularly risky behavior,
Starting point is 00:19:11 then that's also like just a roll of the dice that people are aware of when they do it, I think. If your thing involves the risk of getting caught, then it inherently has built into it the idea that you're possibly going to get caught at some point. Yeah, for sure. So unless anyone's suggesting that this guy was absolutely compelled to do this and there was no way that he could stop himself and had a massive psychological addiction to shitting on other people's footpaths out of the front of their house or whatever and couldn't
Starting point is 00:19:42 stop himself no matter what he did and was actively in therapy and all that sort of shit. I feel like that's probably pretty unlikely, feel like it's probably a pretty niche case and more than likely this was just some weird behavior where he's gone. It's hot and weird because I might get caught. Oh you did get caught and now you're fucked. I think there is another possible explanation. Is that he's in a new relationship and he's very uncomfortable with shiting while she's in the apartment. I just got to pop out real quick.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I'm just going to go for a run with this roll of toilet paper for no reason. I'll be back soon. Oh, I just prefer to ply for mopping the sweat from my brow while I jog. Very normal stuff. That's probably it. Yeah, I think that might be it. But great news story, nonetheless. One of the great yarns of our time. Well, and it's funny as well, because there's like, when that sort of story comes up,
Starting point is 00:20:38 you always wind up with people unearthing, these kind of local tales of like, you know, like everybody's localized legendary poo jogger, everybody's mystery pooper. Like I was reading an account of other mystery poopers from around the world who, you know, either did get caught or I yet to be caught. They're all like, they all are like Big Foots you know people people people know they've seen the evidence but they just can't get them on film and there was one like a lady who would just always shit on this camping trail like oh sorry
Starting point is 00:21:17 hiking trail but just like right in the middle of the path constantly back and th? And she'd be like, see her. Dood, doo-doo. Just wander off. Did either of you guys see that bit of footage recently of a lady in a restaurant who was so angry? It was like off the CCTV, lady in a restaurant who was so mad that she was... She was through a third at a, was it a McDonald's employee? It looked like a Starbucks or something? Oh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. It was th. It was th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thee. thee. Did, thee. Did, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just just just, just just just, just just, just just just, did. Did thu. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did. Did, did, did, did, did a thi. Did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did. Did, was it a McDonald's employee? Yeah, it looked like a Starbucks or something. Oh no, no, it was a Tim Hortons, right? Because it was in... Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, it was in Canada. Yep. And she just pulled down the tights and just took her an instant on command, sihthawed, to the floor.? Into her hand, and then she threw it. But like I said... She was like a... It was all like, um, it was like watching a highly trained marine like quickly strip a rifle this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:22:19 She's like got the pants down, shattened to the hand, thrown it behind the counter, swiftly grabbed a handful of napkins, the th...... the the the th th and the theded it th and thed it thed it th and th and th and th and th and th and th and thined it thined it thined it thined thined throwned throwned throwned throwned. throwned, throwned, throwned, throwned, throwned, throwned, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, throwned, th the hand, thrown it behind the counter, swiftly grabbed a handful of napkins, wiped her hands and arse on this thing, and then hurled the napkins behind the counter at the employee as well. And she does not stop yelling at the employee the entire time. So the reason that she did this is she asked, can I use the bathroom and they said no. So clearly the turd was already waiting there. The tur was ready. She was never far away from having the tur to have the tur ready to go. Yeah the tunit has context. Yeah. It's not like she just went for being in like a perfectly normal day-to-day state of
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Starting point is 00:23:29 I mean? I don't think it's morally correct to throw a turd at someone that's getting paid like $9 an hour. But probably if someone's like, hey, I'm sorry I really need to use the bathroom, just be like, yeah, no worries. Well, yeah, that's that funny middle ground, isn't it, where, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the, the the, the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, thi, that's, like, like, like, thi, thi, I'm just, I'm just, I's thatheat, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I's thi, I's thi, I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. th. th. that that that that that that that that thirty thirty thirty thirty, thirty, th th th thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, th bathroom. Just be like, yeah, no worries. Well, yeah, that's that funny middle ground, isn't it? Where, like, on one hand, you got somebody who just clearly needs to shit. Very clearly. You also have the business saying, well, don't let people take a shit in the bathroom unless they're a paying customer, which is, I would suggest is both motivated by the idea that well maybe you can get somebody to say a fucking fine I'll take a cup of coffee and then run off to the bathroom or potentially as well the idea that like you spend a certain amount of money and supplies on cleaning bathrooms and that's calculated based off how many customers you have or whatever like who gives it shit but um but yeah you do have the middle ground of the minimum wage employee working behind the counter.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And you know, like whenever I've been in the situation of doing like a retail customer service type job or whatever, and somebody says, oh can I do this thing and you go, I don't give a fuck, do whatever. Do what I'd like to know is like, does Canada have a kind of set up like America or Actually, I don't know for America, but for for Europe where there doesn't tend to be public toilets Whereas in Australia, I mean like you walk through the shopping center to get to the McDonald's or Starbucks or whatever and you and there are to toilets there for you to use right is Canada more along the lines where they don't provide that sort. th. th. the th. th. th. the to???? the the to the th. to the to the th. th. th. the the th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. the. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. the, I. th. th. th. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thin. th. the. th. the. the. the. th. the. the. I'm, th. I? Is Canada more along the lines where they don't provide that sort of stuff in like a mall or what have you? Because the reason I ask is because I know in like Paris for instance it is next to impossible to get a public toilet, right? So we used to always
Starting point is 00:25:18 go to the McDonald's to shit and then go and buy McDonald's. So it works out well for everybody. Is Canada the same? Well, I assume that this is just a lone Tim Hortons in the woods. Next to an Alpine Lake, and there's nothing else for thousands of kilometers around. It makes sense. So, that's probably enough about shitting for the moment, I guess. Because we have another important announcement folks. This will now be the third time that we have discussed. The whack. The whack is back. Penis Wackerman. Return of the whack. The whack is back in the news because there was a little piece of news that came up over the week, which was some footage of from 2007, I think, of some Australian soldiers overseas,
Starting point is 00:26:14 flying a great big Nazi flag on their jeep or whatever the fuck it was. And of course you know what this means. It means that we have entered the Orwellian future where you can't even hang a Nazi flag on an APC in a country who you declared war on. You shouldn't even be there in the first place. You can't do anything anymore. You can't. It's political correctness gone mad. The left's gone mad. When did the Nazi flag suddenly get a bad reputation? Everybody was totally fine with it. Remember, remember in the 80s when you could just cruise down the street, holding a loft, a four foot high swastika flag,
Starting point is 00:27:01 and people will just be like, huh, guys probably just exercising his free speech. I mean, I remember even as late as the early 90s being four or five years old and, you know, going to like a showground or whatever and just pleading with my parents to buy me a Nazi flag and they would always relent, they'd give me one eventually. And it was just a Nazi flag, it's cool. And it was just a Nazi an innocent show bag. Come on. It's just a Nazi flag.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's cool. Please let me get the little Hitler Nazi showbag. Yeah, so we've talked about Pierce Ackerman as the name he also goes by in the past. Suden him. Because his pen name, because he's had a couple of staggeringly bad takes in the past that we felt the need to sort of go into some detail on. So allow us to to read to you from Penis Wackerman's, his fever dreams of the horrifying totalitarian state we live in where people ask if it's not a great look
Starting point is 00:28:07 for Australian soldiers to fly huge swastika flags. According to fevered reports on our ABC, Australian soldiers have been photographed flying a Nazi flag from their vehicle while on operations in Afghanistan. Feaved reports. Fevered report. Well, he says, quote, the photograph shows the large swastika emblem hoisted over an Australian military vehicle.
Starting point is 00:28:32 The newsreader recounted breathlessly. A source claimed it flew for a prolonged period. Wow. Maybe our troops were just trying to confuse the Islamist enemies. After all, they sided with the Nazis during World War II. That is honestly such a staggeringly incredible sentence to commit to type of just being like, hey, did you stuff to consider maybe this was a booby trap and that they'd look at the flag and be like, oh no, we're friends with Nazis, right? Last time I checked. Oh, remember that? Remember that? th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th they? they they? they? they? they? they? they, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're si. they're si. they're they're they're, oh no, we're friends with those guys. We're friends with Nazis, right? Last time I checked, the thing right? Oh, remember that? You remember from 1944?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, you remember, you remember how there's just that one big army of the country of Islam that's been just doing the same thing with the same leadership since World War II? And it's, you know, we know that that, we that, we that, we that, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, that, that, that, we know, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, th, remember, th, remember, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, remember, remember, their, remember, remember, remember, remember, their, remember, remember, remember, th. th. th. their, the same leadership since World War II. It's, and it's, you know, we know that all forces from all countries are all just working off the same sheet, you know? Yeah, I mean, look, on one hand, it's bad that we're flying a Nazi flag, you know, you know, in Afghanistan. On the other hand, the Turk lusts for Vienna, so who's to say who's right. Hmm. He goes on, incredibly, these agitated reports led news bulletins on a day during a week in
Starting point is 00:29:54 which a historic meeting between a U.S. president and a North Korean despot took place. A number of state budgets were handed down and there was no shortage of genuine national news. Indeed, the outrage at the flag flying episode even took precedence over examination of the announcement of the prospective national apology to victims of institutional child abuse. The decision, here we go. The decision on the placement must have been difficult for ABC's editor-in-chief, Michelle Guthrie to make, given the organization's activists went well beyond the bounds of journalistic propriety in prosecuting institutions for their historic crimes their crimes their crimes their crimes their crimes their crimes the organization's activists went well beyond the bounds of journalistic propriety in prosecuting institutions for their historic crimes, the Catholic Church in particular,
Starting point is 00:30:31 though surprisingly little effort was devoted to reporting by the ABC on the ongoing institutionalized sexual abuse of children in the dysfunctional, remote Aboriginal communities at champions. You have to, you have to admit the man is talented to put a deflection inside of his deflection. So he's deflecting away from the Nazi flag being formed, right? I guess it's, ah, but what about these child sexual abuse victims? But, what about these child sexual abuse victims? But also don't look at particularly where those victims are or who perpetrated it.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Maybe look somewhere else as well. Don't, like, you know, let's not look exactly where I'm pointing. Well, number one, put a full stop in there somewhere. That was a six-line long sentence. That entire thing was one sentence. From the decision of the placement must have been difficult to remote aboriginal communities. And boy, like he said, does he run all over the place in the course of that sentence. But yeah, he also
Starting point is 00:31:35 goes quickly from the ABC journalists are activists who go well beyond the bounds of journalistic propriety in prosecuting institutions for their historic crimes, the Catholic Church in particular, but also they have not prosecuted the sexual crimes of this other community enough. And it's weird to think, I wonder what it is about those two different groups where he would like to see less scrutiny of one and more scrutiny of the other. Who could say? Who could say? But also I would kind of argue that maybe Aboriginal communities are also not a monolithic organized religion that receives orders from the top and has tax-free status and all that sort of stuff. Like it again though it's just this absolutely absurd what-aboutism where the implication here is that all the people at the ABC are perfectly happy for you
Starting point is 00:32:42 know sexual violence and violence against women and children that happens in remote aboriginal communities that they're totally fine with it is the implication that. I mean it even goes a level further in that I think like a lot of recent reviews of the data found that the historical claims are making about over representations of sexual abuse and domestic abuse in indigenous communities were massively inflated from these hugely racist surveys but that's the data people have been using for ages but of course they don't care about that.
Starting point is 00:33:14 They just don't want people to look at the church because any, even if the church is guilty of covering all this stuff up, they can't admit any wrongdoing on its part because it's cultural. Hmm, absolutely. Penis continues, what's worse, the ABC's confected outrage over an incident that occurred nearly 12 years ago, and which was investigated and dealt with at the time. Warmed up old news is something of a staple at the nation's largest news organization when the subject fits its in its inately leftist agenda. Tying the military forces to a fascist flag nearly a dozen years ago would have excited the non-gender specific persons at the ABC no end.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So, my two favorite things about that paragraph, calling it confected outrage. Like if you read the ABC article, it's like, hey, we found this footage of this happening. It's not them confecting outrage, it's that if you read this, you realize that it is fucking outrageous. Like, that's all on the reader. But they've not been like, this is ridiculous and they must be punished. They are just stating the facts.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And the whole warmed up old news news news news news news your issue with this is that, oh yeah, of course, we already well knew that they flew Nazi flags. Why, we're bringing this up again? Yeah, when it's like the whole point is that we didn't know. Yeah. And also, I think you'll find, like, a fun thing in reading this article is try and find his criticism for the troops flying a Nazi flag in Afghanistan. Yeah, well, it's the boys.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It is the boy. You know when you're with the lads. And the ABC, you know, they're just dogging the lads. I think that's all it is. When you and your boys, you're just doing a bit of war and one of the fellas, he's having a bit of fun. He's having a bit of a laugh. And he just pulls out his giant swastigar flag that he took with him to Afghanistan, very normal, very normal stuff. But like, I think as well one of the issues that this raises as a just as a news thing in general as well is like
Starting point is 00:35:28 This this idea of what kind of things happen In the theater of war and what kind of things happen on behalf of and in the name of the country that you are a citizen of and your tax dollars go towards this defense budget and these operations and all that sort of shit What kind of things are happening that we just never th??????????? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. I I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. towards this defense budget and these operations and all that sort of shit. What kind of things are happening that we just never get told about? I think that's the question that this actually raises for people. Which also I think there was a lot of talk about that sort of thing in the same week where we had, came out that SAS troops, you know, there was one story of a guy being not forced
Starting point is 00:36:12 but cajoled to execute an elderly man who was suspected to be of the Taliban. Surprisingly that doesn't make it into his piece either. That bit was... PC police over here. Yeah. That doesn't make it into his piece either. That bit was... PC police over here, suddenly against executing unarmed Islamists, as he would say. So, all right, let's continue here. Yet, just a fortnight ago, the same shanky news organization gave hours of advertising free coverage to the wedding
Starting point is 00:36:45 of an individual who also affected Nazi regalia, Prince Harry. And it wasn't a word from the ABC's hyperventilating talent who had flown to the Windsor knees up about his misdemeanor. Harry was only 20 when he turned up at a private party wearing Nazi insignia in 2005. So, again, I just, I just, again, I just don't understand, this is this whole style of approach to things where this person's saying, hey, you shouldn't even be reporting on this thing in the first place. It's nothing, shouldn't even be talking about it.
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Starting point is 00:38:01 And the like context has no meaning within the pages of the Australian, you know, that hey maybe, maybe showing up to a party as a Nazi is in a good look. We agree. You know, maybe it's a worse look to fly the same flag in a military operation. Well, allow peers to explain it to you. Oh, okay. Sorry, I've got, I'm going ahead myself. He says, Harry was only 20 when he turned up at a private party wearing Nazi insignia in 2005. He wouldn't have been much younger than the blokes who thought it was a bit of a joke to tie the swastika to the aerial of the troop carrier, but they had their pay doctor and
Starting point is 00:38:48 were subjected to army discipline. He may have been given a bit of a chin wagging, but let's face it. He lost his beloved mum when he was just a kid and he had a bit of a reputation as a hellraiser for getting hammered. to for for for for for for for for for to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their. th. their. th. their. their. their. th. their. th th th th th th their. their. their their th their their their their their their. Hea their their their. Hea their. Hea their. Hea their. Hea their. Hea their. Hea their. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. Hea. He's their their their their their their the the. He's tode. He with that sad family history, he was cut a lot of slack. So he wheels about immediately from you didn't criticize this guy to also this guy didn't do anything worth criticizing. Again, Nazi flags, fine with beers. I think he's being sarcastic. Well, and again, but like, again though, it's this thing of, oh, so leftists want to complain about this,
Starting point is 00:39:29 but women being beaten in remote communities is fine with them, huh? And you're like, no, not really. It's the thing that we're not happy about. And he goes, ah, well, you're happy about this. You're perfectly happy for Harry to wear a Nazi uniform at a party. Like you said, Theo, it's like, no, at the time we were all like, woof. Who, it's a bad look. It's a bad look. So Harry gets cut slack, but Pierce says, not our frontline soldiers, however, no skylarking
Starting point is 00:39:58 for these battle-stressed heroes. Skylarking is fucking incredible. I... You know when you and the boys are all all all all all all all they's they are all the boys they are all the boys thors the boys are the is all the boys are the is the boys are theys the boys are theous the boys are all stressed out and you think, oh God, it's just being a week. What a week. Do you guys want to go out the back and erect a giant cross and we can set that on fire? Just like blow off a bit of steam. Yeah, you know when you just, you've just had a rough one. It's been a really long week and you just find yourself saying to the boys,
Starting point is 00:40:34 TGIF, thank God I'm flying a Nazi play. Like, no. Just normal stuff. Normal stuff for the boys. Like, this is that kind of shit where I always think to myself like... So the question doesn't pop up in Pierce's mind at any point here. This is the kind of question I ask myself in these situations. Where the fuck would you even get a giant Nazi flag?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Serious question, is it the kind of thing that you can get from like historical military stores? Or like, because I genuinely don't fucking know where you would get a gigantic Nazi flag from? And as it was pointed out, that dude had to take that stuff with him, pack it up in his shit and take it to Afghanistan before unfurling it over there. That's a just a whole lot, like, like said, skylarking. Oh, they thought it was a bit of a joke. How the fuck did you even get it and get it there? Did you pack it, thin?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Why it was just a thing that you keep, the my Nazi flag. They make it. I might need my Nazi flag. Well, we might get a bit stressed out while we're over there. Me and the boys might want to have a bit of fun. Better take my big Nazi flag. You know, when you make it the list you've got a phone charger, you're always forgetting that, right? You need your toiletries bag. Don't forget the toothpaste. You know the toothpaste to to to put toothpaste to put toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste toothpaste to put toothpaste the to put toothpaste the the to put toothpaste their to put to to put to their their to put to their their their their their their their their their to put their to put to their their the toothpaste in the oil tree's bag always forget and you get you show up you know different country you don't have your toothpaste and the Nazi flag got to pack that in there because you and the boys are stressed and you're like oh you don't want to be caught out my frisbee or my Nazi flag my problem is that I always I always really over pack I always turn up a place of like 16 pairs of socks and five Nazi flags, you know? And I only ever wind up using one of them.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Probably could have done with two. Oh dear. No skylarking for the boys. According to defense in the ADF, the commander took immediate action and had the offensive flag which actually flew briefly removed and destroyed. Quote, the personnel involved were immediately cautioned at the time and subsequently received further counseling. Additionally steps were taken to reinforce education and training for all the personing for all the training for all the train.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I hate when I'm outed publicly as a Nazi and then I'm cautioned and then counseled. Hmm I like that I like that there aren't any questions on the lines of oh do we have any soldiers in our midst who are white supremacists It's more like you know you're not supposed to let people see you do the flag bit right Yeah, no, I think it's just the one the guy that flew the flag It's probably just the just the single white supremacist even then he was probably just sky-liking The Pierce asks how you can unsee what you've just seen is beyond me. I guess he thinks that... That one is suggesting that? Like, because I assume he's saying that in response to the text he just quoted about how they were...
Starting point is 00:43:35 Counseled. People who witnessed the flag were counseled. Yeah. I don't think anyone said, hey, we're going to brainwash you until you forget that you saw a Nazi flag. We have to forget. So he says how you can unsee what you've just seen is beyond me, but in this Orwellian age of memory holes maybe the ADF takes its lead from the University of Sydney where they now teach unlearning on their gender-free politically correct campus. What a segue. It's just a word salad of dumbship. Like this fucking, they just say things. He just says, position I would like to defend but don't actually have anything to say about, direct link to totally unrelated thing that I have a problem with.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Like I don't, again, I don't understand what those two have to do with each other at all. He continues, under the current military leadership, our men aren't even expected to show a bit of testosterone, too masculine, you know. But like, what's the craziest thing in the world to me. It's just being like, The things he's trying's trying's trying's trying's trying's trying's trying's trying's trying's trying's try's tha's tha's tha's tha's tha's tha's tha's thae, thae, thae, to the craziest thing in the world to me. It's just being like... But the things he's trying to tie this off to, like,
Starting point is 00:44:47 yeah, let off a bit of stress, fly an Nazi flag. Hey, you're feeling particularly masculine today. Fly a Nazi flag. This doesn't fucking make any sense. I would, I would honestly have more respect for somebody using that that type of thing as a defense of an SAS soldier who executed somebody. Like as in just the reality of that type of scenario which is we have taken all these guys and given them all this training and you know we've we've dehumanized and othered the enemy to this point and we've
Starting point is 00:45:23 put people in this fucking hyper masculine scenario where they're expected to kill other people and it's super high stress and people get PTSD and all that sort of stuff so there's gonna be times where it spills over and people go a bit mental and go go too far with people they're shooting or whatever but that's a consequence of the situation we put them in and it's a byproduct of war and if you can't deal with that then you're not accepting the reality of the situation. I would have more respect for that as an argument than, oh the lads are just blown off a bit of steam,
Starting point is 00:45:56 which is why they're flying their Nazi flag that they took with them to Afghanistan for some reason. Like the,... It just was... And it's probably because at some point they were told that trans people exist or something. Oh funny you should say that. Next paragraph from penis says it's too masculine you know they have to do a little role-playing. Imagine you're a woman, imagine you're a minority, imagine you're weak., imagine you're a minority, imagine you're weak. Great association there. Wear high heels like the former chief of army, David Morrison to show you're in touch with something or other, or maybe just a pious virtue signaler, just don't think you're a real soldier.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Deadnaming a trans person in there. Great stuff. The automatic association that if you are a woman or a minority, you are weak, or also the idea that if you are a soldier in the Australian army, that you are a white man, obviously. That's the only, like, I like the implication there that a real soldier is a white Christian, high-tee man. And also like you know if you want to talk about real soldiers right and you want to talk about you know respecting our troops and all that stuff right like these these people go crazy when even the suggestion of a flag being burnt is you know it floated right like you know you see a flag and you go oh this isn't what our, uh the, uh this is not what our, it floated, right? Like, you know, you
Starting point is 00:47:26 see a flag and you go, oh, this isn't what our, what our grandparents fought under. So, how do you think that soldiers historically would feel about our troops fighting under a Nazi flag, right? Like, you want to talk about their idea of respecting the troops. How does that fly? Well, yeah, and all the same people who, you know, get burned up about shit like people people kneeling at the NFL and going, oh, that's not what my ancestors fought to protect, and all that sort of shit what my ancestors fought to protect and all that sort of shit.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's like, yeah and doing this is a joke, completely normal, cool stuff. Yeah. Just as a side note, I was just, because I was trying to remember what the David Morrison thing was, so that wasn't him deadnaming a trans person. David Morrison is a cis man, but he used to be the former chief of army, or whatever, or whatever, or whatever, or whatever, or whatever, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theynile, theynile, theynile, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the used to be the former chief of army or whatever the title is, but he participated in one of those walkerbile in their shoes rallies against violence against women and war high heels. Oh, I was confusing him with Catherine McGregor. Catherine McGregor tore into him forthis, Wheatley because she is a huge
Starting point is 00:48:48 dickhead. She's a really horrible person. But yeah, fucking, fucking, he was literally just doing a thing. Yeah, he was literally just doing a thing, against women. And like Andrew Bolt, fucking dug into him for it all the like right-wing culture warriors tore into it because he wore heels at an event where men were wearing heels as a protest thing like these people have a sickness of the soul well people will have to forgive me for reading something from Pierce Ackerman
Starting point is 00:49:22 and jumping to the conclusion that he was saying the most offensive thing he could say. Oh no, it's fine. He was only saying the second most offensive thing that he could say. Yep, yep. What was truly sickening about the ABC's excited reports of the flag flying business was the haste with which Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull provided a smarmy quote run with the fake news. I like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thu-a, thu-a, thu-a, tho, tho, the their, their, their, their, their, their, is their, is their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the second, the second, the second, the second, the second, the second, the second, the second, is the second, is the second, is the second, is the second, is the second, is the same, is the same, is the same, is the same, is the same, is their, is their second, is their second, is their-s, their second, thr-s, today's today's today's thau-s'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'-s, is their-s, is their news. I like the way that it's not just warmed up old news now, it's turned into fake news. The soldier's conduct he said was, quote,
Starting point is 00:49:50 completely and utterly unacceptable. So again, we're opposing the idea that flying a Nazi flag off your, off your rig as an Australian soldier is unacceptable. Like you're saying, Theo, nowhere does he actually offer up a defense. It's just that everything that is said in opposition to the idea is pathetic and unseemly. How anyone who never served and probably never heard a shot fired in anger could have the audacity to offer more than the most general view of activities which took place on a battlefield is bewildering. He sounded like a green,
Starting point is 00:50:26 or perhaps Labour's Bill Shorten or Kevin Rudd. Again, just anyone I don't like. Then again, Turnbull may have been taking his lead from the newest chief of army, Angus Campbell, who shortly after taking office showed he was prepared to play upwards to his political masters and not down to his troops with an order banning soldiers' use of death-style imagery, such as Spartan warriors, the grim reaper, skull and crossbones and the punisher, vigilante character. Lieutenant General Campbell said the use of such symbols was, quote, always ill-considered and implicitly encourages the inculcation of an arrogant hubris and general disregard for the most serious responsibility of our profession for the most seriously serious responsibility
Starting point is 00:51:05 of our profession, the legitimate and discriminate taking of life. Man, imagine that. Imagine thinking that soldiers on a battlefield should actually pay attention to who they're killing and why. I think the last paragraph when we get to it really comes, circles back to that as well. Well, I would just say about this as well that like, I, I could, you know, yeah, I'm not a soldier, the big soy boy beta cuck. But just from the, just from the perspective of like that whole idea of, oh, we're going
Starting point is 00:51:38 to go to other countries and win hearts and minds and all that sort of shit. And it's just like, yeah, if everybody that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that sort of shit and it's just like yeah if everybody that you see has like the fucking big punishes skull on him and groom reapers and skull and crossbones and all that sort of shit like you're saying it's it's very you're very clearly implying that you have one role which is that you're there to fucking murder people I I think, as a visual implication. And it makes me think of when I was in Canberra a year or two ago, I am there now, but I think I was visiting, or was here over Christmas or something. And I was down at some shops, and like, so Cambera has the, has like a lot of military base stuff in it,
Starting point is 00:52:27 has sort of headquarters of the Australian Defense Force and all that sort of thing. Big, big military town. So you see a lot of people around in the uniforms. And I saw these two guys in the parking lot and they were both wearing like army fatigues and had like hoodies over the top that were like black hoodies with the silhouette of the silhouette. And the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, has, has, has, has, has, has, has, has, the, the, has, has, has, has, has the, has the, has the, has, has, has, has, has, has, has the, has, has, has, has the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theysoa, their, their, sos, the, the, the, the, the, the, hoodies over the top that were like black hoodies with the silhouette of a soldier and like a crosshair and stuff and they said proud infidel on them and I know that that's a thing the guys wear and stuff but like I that that to me is just really unsettling and you're making the really obvious association between the Australian armed forces
Starting point is 00:53:13 and we are the enemy of Muslims. Yeah. Like it's not, you know, that, like they're not saying, ah, we fight against jihadis and extremists and shit like that, they're just saying, I want to put something on here that I think will be offensive to a Muslim. That's what it boils down to for me. And yeah, and I just saw that on guys who were also wearing their military uniforms, and I was like, that is gross and unsettling to me.
Starting point is 00:53:43 And I don't think it's a great look or a great move or whatever. Penis finishes up by saying, recently, defense expert Michael Evans published a book and several papers on suicide among soldiers. He quoted leading American general and soldier scholar H.R. McMaster's lament that, quote, post-modern Western notions of war now spurned the mainly masculine literature and poetry of the ages that give meaning to a warrior's soul and uphold the sanctity of self-sacrifice for a greater good. McMaster he said, cautions that soldiers must continue to, quote, view war as a challenge and as their duty, not as trauma. Maybe Australia should give the rest of the Western world a lead and start treating our soldiers, sailors and airmen and women as professionals hired to
Starting point is 00:54:29 keep the nation safe by whatever legal means necessary. Wow and again like you said Theo this this idea that he's all about respecting the troops and caring about the troops but also being unable to see the connection between really high suicide rates among soldiers and the trauma that they would go through in both witnessing and perpetrating particular acts and even just the training and shit that they go through. Yeah, like if the whole point of all of your training and all that sort of shit is to just completely devalue human life to a point where you can indiscriminately take it,
Starting point is 00:55:13 and then you wonder why people come back completely disconnected from normal life, but again, his beef with that isn't the high suicide rate. It's that we're just not telling dudes that it's super awesome to kill people and they should be proud of it. Like, I don't know, it makes me think of like something I was talking to someone about earlier in the week, about like, about sort of the rise of visibility of like queer and trans people in everyday life and saying there's obviously people who are of the rise of visibility of like queer and trans people in in everyday life and saying that there's obviously people who are of the school of thought that the rise in visibility of these people and portrayals of them in the media and all that sort of stuff. They think
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Starting point is 00:56:46 It's like, yeah, so that probably means it doesn't exist. You fucking idiot. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, like we used to, you know, before it was PTSD, it was shell shock, and before that, it was hysteria and cowardice, and people were literally executed for cowardice, right? Or the inability to continue functioning in the theater of war, right? Now we're aware of the issues, but somehow the visibility of these things is the same. And it's the same with, you know, this flag being flown and and the reporting of the impropriety of our of our troops pretending like the visibility of it is the is the issue as if the
Starting point is 00:57:39 the behavior itself is not causing more people to be radicalized in, you know, in these countries against us. If you want to talk about keeping the nation safe by whatever legal means necessary, and I think he really shows his cards there with whatever means necessary because he means, hey, you know, make people afraid of us. If you want to keep the nation safe, obviously PR invisibility of our troops in a nation that is not ours should be paramount. If we're going to be there, don't be acting like we're there to, you know, kill an entire religion.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. It's just ridiculous. And like you said, Theo, he manages to get through that entire thing without ever saying at any point, oh look, it wasn't a great look, but I understand why they did it. Yeah, usually they throw in a, you know, while this behavior is unfortunate or what, there's not a single word against it, and I think that speaks of the priorities. It was not, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's just, it, it, it, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, just just just just just just just, thi- just just just just just, thi-it, thi-it, thi-it's just just just just just just just just, thi-itthis behavior is unfortunate or what there's not a single word against it and I think that speaks of their priorities. Not even like, oh I understand that there's some bad optics or whatever, it's just the entire thing, you could, the only thing you can take away from that is the left is being hysterical. Well, the only thing you can take away from all of that all of the deflection onto you know the ABC reporting on the Catholic Church and Aboriginal communities and the Prime Minister and the Chief of Army and every other person in the world and and Sydney University's curriculum and all these other things is that he he has absolutely no problem with
Starting point is 00:59:24 Australian soldiers flying a massive swastika banner for an APC in Afghanistan. That's completely fine and nay understandable to him. So we just can't wait until he blesses us with another wonderful take. And that is about all the time we have for today. We've got a crime pass this week. I think the crime should be to post vision from the Parliament in Queensland and make fun of Jared Blanchard. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. If you've got any...
Starting point is 01:00:04 If you have heaps of free time and lots of video editing skills, make some funny stuff for us because we're not going to. But that'd be good. Oh, and a shout out to friend of the show, Kay Morrissey, for bringing that penis whack a man article to our attention just before we got started. Cheers, mate. I would also like to our attention just before we got started. So, cheers me. I would also like to extend an apology.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Earlier I said the Brisbane flag had a VB can being thrown as a gay person on it. Obviously I'm into 4x can. I got lost in the heat of the moment and I do apologize. I wasn't going to say anything about it. I just assume that was an interesting artistic decision on your part, but thank you for owning up to your mistakes. That sort of transparency and honesty is what makes us such a professional outfit. I think we're all improving. We're getting so much better all the time. Absolutely constant. Of course, you can always find bonus episodes of the show over on Patreon. to Vista. You can also go over to Facebook and give us a five-star review to counteract
Starting point is 01:01:11 the pissy one-star review we got that's thrown our average off. Run to five stars. Please note that we are not mad. I'll tell you what that, I'm... We're actually laughing. That one-star review has kept me humble. I feel really I was getting a little cocky there for a while. And I feel really grounded, you know? I'm back on my feet again. That's good. It's good to know. Right folks. Well, we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. Hey. the

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