Boonta Vista - EPISODE 54: Clack Clack

Episode Date: July 2, 2018

Welcome! You can't get away! We're checking our eyesight and checking in with huge idiots like Lyle Shelton, Pauline Hanson and Blair Cottrell. We're also checking in on what we're all currently liste...ning to (Lucy's listening to ska. Lots of ska.) Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista Merchandise now available: boontavista.com/merchandise _____________________________ Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Buente Vista episode 54. We've been hanging around the mouth of this alley here and we've beckoned you down into the alley to hear our thoughts and our ideas. But now that you're down in the alley you'll find that Theo is standing across the mouth of the alley and threatening to the of the alley, threateningly punching one fist into the open palm of his other hand. You're a little worried now, you feel like you can't leave. You're stuck in here with us.
Starting point is 00:00:56 For at least we're looking, we're all looking at our watches for at least an hour. It seems like he could just like shove me over with one hand, but... Don't tell him. Looks could be deceiving, so don't try. I also would be intimidated by a group of four street tufts who are all wearing watches. We're all wearing watches and glasses, folks. And we're here to tell you our thoughts. You thought that you were just going to have to help somebody like help a nerd tie their shoes or maybe tell them which direction it is to the nearest game's workshop.
Starting point is 00:01:31 But no. Chakes on you. I've got Velcro. The situation in which we've lured someone into this alley is someone being like, hey man, I need help tie my shoes. Can you follow me five to ten meters down into this alley please? I'm Andrew, th th th th th th th th th, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, th, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thuuuuuuuuuuuuilet, thuilet, tho, thatuathea, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. thuan, thuan, thi thi. tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie. togee, toguuuuuuuuuuua, tie-a'n't tie-a'n't tie-a'er, tie-a, t ten meters, five to ten meters down in this alley, please. I'm Andrew holding you vaguely captive in this alley. I'm here of course with Lucy. Hi Lucy. I don't want to be in this alley. It's too late you're in here now.
Starting point is 00:01:58 What are you going to get past Theo? I'm sorry to Theo, but I think I'm going to get past the I'm sorry to theo but I think I could take the oh we'll find out also we have with this Ben hi Ben hello say hello to our nice captive I just, I know that I've been critical maybe, facetious about your introductions in the past. And I can't say that I was wrong to do so, because the pearl that has emerged from the piece of dirt that I have punished, which is what I believe happens inside an oyster, has turned out absolutely beautiful. Oh well, thank you very much. And of course, guarding the mouth of the alley, the threatening look on his face is beautiful,
Starting point is 00:02:54 Theo. Hello, Theo. Hey, yeah, I'm like making that thumb throat-cutting motion with one hand. With the other, I'm rubbing my eyes because the pollen count is very high today. Oh dear, oh dear how is everybody? We all acceptable? Good good. Good. Bad news everybody. I went to the optomistress today. Have my eyes checked and I regret to inform you that I am continuing to age. Do they diagnose you with nerd disease aka you need glasses, bitch? Well I already had glasses but it sounds like I need more glasses. Oh god. A second pair place over the first. Yep, yep. We're like we've got to bump these glasses up in this bitch.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Now am I given, am I given to understanding up. We need some coke bottles up in this bitch. Now, am I given to understanding correctly that everybody else on this podcast pretty much wears glasses all the time? I very rarely wear glasses. Oh, really? Yeah, only when I'm like, been on the computer too long, which is most of the time.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Oh, is that why you're always wearing them in profile pictures and so yes because I constantly am on the computer too much Yeah, yeah, that's fam And uh Ben and Theo I'm pretty sure glasses boys. Yeah if I if I if my glasses broke or I couldn't find them. I would probably just lay down and tie like I cannot function in the world without mine at all. That bad, huh? Oh, it's it's terrible I wouldn't even walk around my own house without my glasses on like, I the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the that's that's thro that that that, that, that, mine at all. That bad, huh? Oh, it's terrible. I wouldn't even walk around my own house without my glasses on. Like, I can't see like 50 centimeters beyond my face. Wow. How about you, Theo? How's the sight? Yeah, no, mine's only for like going outside, really come up much. I have had glasses for a while that I just wear at work when I'm on the computer.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Because apparently for the last however many years working on a computer all day under flurowlite gives me a bit of a headache. But I've never had any problem. Yeah, well I've never had any problem with like the just focusing on anything. It's always been sharp. And today was the very first day that I have ever been shown a row of letters. And then I've said, maybe that's a C. You know, like you've always been able to read even the bottom row? Yeah, man. It's always been sharp as shit. I'm lucky to get the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very the very that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the. the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the like the top two. I'm lucky to get the very big E that he shows here when it's just from calibrate. I'm lucky to look into the right office. Oh dear, so there it is folks. Now you guys were asking me to explain earlier what I meant by freckles.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Turns out you can get a freckles. I don't ask that at any point And to be fair, I walked in on the phrase, I've got freckles on my balls. So I believe you walked in on Theo asking me what's up with these freckles on your balls. Yeah, that seems to be rude. Yeah, that seems to be the balls. Yeah, that seems to be like the thrown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. the the th. th. th. thre's. th. to to to to to to to to to to be to. to. I to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the f. I. I. I. I the f. I the f. I the the f. I the the the the the freck. I the the the the the freck. I the threck. I threck. I threck. I to be to be to. I to makes sense though. It turns out, I get this guys, light, you know light from the sun. Some of that goes into your eyes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. None of I can help it. Yep. That's why I never need to wear my sunlight glasses. But yeah, it turns out you can get freckles on the inside of your eye. Oh, I don't like that. That's so horrible. And I have two freckles on the inside of one eye.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And the guy was like, yeah, so there you got that information now. It doesn't mean anything or matter. But there they are, and you show me the dots on the picture. Oh, I don't like, no. No, thn't thn't th no, thank you. Yeah, he was like, oh, he looked in my eye and he was like Ooh, we should get the fancy imaging done because I'm seeing some stuff that I'm a bit worried. Might mean that you have glaucoma. I was like the weed disease He said what calm down?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Sit down, sir, calm down? Sit down, sir, please sit down. Stop doing that Cheech and Chong, you know, okay sign up to your lips, kind of vibe. And then I paid for the expensive imaging, and then he was like, that's fine, you don't have glaucom. It's suddenly fine, it's suddenly fine, now that you've paid. But for any American listeners I could go into any given glasses shop and get a new prescription done to my eyeballs. Didn't cost anything. Wip out the old Medicare card, free is a bed. I love doing the song and dance of going in there, getting your free eye check and they're like,
Starting point is 00:07:44 great. Let's look at some check, and they're like, great, let's look at some pairs of glasses while you're like, basically running out of the store to be like, I'm buying them online, motherfucker, I'm not coming here. Yeah, straight afterwards, like, you walk me out to the guy and was like, so, you know, it's like, six million dollars into the glasses of the glasses that you're wearing now. And here's all these other glasses here and I was like, yeah, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look at these glasses over on the wall and I'll think about whether I wanna put new lenses into the glasses I'm wearing. Or if I wanna buy a whole new expensive pair of glasses, and get you to put lenses in them, okay? It was like, sure. And the second he had turned his back on me, I just evaporated. You dropped to the floor, and you crawled out on your belly. It was like, he turned around and there was a roadrunner-esque
Starting point is 00:08:33 silhouette of smoke in the shape of where I had just been. And he said, sir, are you okay, sir? and just dissipated and dissipated, and dissipated, and just dissipated, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and there, and then then, and then, the they? th, and then, and then, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi? th. th. th. th. th. th. And he was, and he was, and he was, and he was, and he was, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and he was, and he was, and he was, and he was? And he was? And he was? And he was? And he was? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. th. And then the clothes that you were wearing temporarily suspended in the air collapsed into a pile on the ground. That's right. And I went back to work naked. Yeah. So folks that's where my eyeballs are at. Look, I don't want to turn this into the sort of podcast that a paleo chef Pete Evans would do. But if you are a sort of person who has a job where you're at a computer all day, stand up. Like every half an hour or whatever and focus at something in the distance. Get away from your computer and look at something else for the love of God. I work in a windowless office so there's this, I guess there's four walls I could stare
Starting point is 00:09:26 out. Well, do all of them in sequence. Yeah, I would recommend standing up, just having a stretch, looking at something that's not your computer, just go for a little walk, walk out the door, keep walking. If you cross an international border. Closest wilderness. Learn to survive on the land. Make fashion little tools.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I think you start with the small sticks, work your way up to axes. You can chop down a tree with that. Construct a small cabin in the woods and live out your life there. I think you're describing sort of the early game of Minecraft, but I do believe that the principles are roughly the same. I think they're the same. I've played a lot of Minecraft and it seems applicable.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Did anybody else see that movie Into the Wild? Is that the movie where the guy goes into the wild? Yes. Yes. Yeah, I've seen that one. It's the Sean Penn directed romanticization of the guy who went, I'm gonna be like Jack Carraway can go live in the fucking woods. And he just like gets a cut on his thigh and dies. He like eats some berries,
Starting point is 00:10:34 shits himself a bunch and then dies in a bus is my recollection of the movie. Yep, yep, very much. He just has a bit of fun tooling around in the woods for a while in summer time. And it turns to winter and he eats some berries and he shits his guts and turns grey and he just freezes to death in an abandoned bus in the woods. And Sean Penn's take away from this is like, cool. What an honorable life. He's been so true to himself, shitting himself to death in a bus. I believe he also learned some life lessons from a wholesome, rustic wheat farmer, Vince Vaughn. He did. Yes. And Christian Stewart really wants to fuck him, but he's not on board with it. Oh yeah, get out of here, Kay Stu. Yeah, you're tart. Not for me, thanks. People were so mad at Kirsten Stewart for so long.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You know they hated her. It's just pretty. Oh, what a crime. You know? Anyway. Now we start the podcast. Speaking of crimes. Okay. What about the crime of flipping and or flopping? Folks, either they sing through a crime.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's a term, it's a political crime, probably, depending on whose side you're on. Really, when that was the whole thing in the, um, it was like the, the 2004 election in the states when like John Kerry ran against Bush. Uh, and uh, and there's an inspiring political figure I think about a bunch. John Kerry. John Kerry, yep. Oh, George Bush. George W. He, he like, he like changed his mind one time 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:12:16 and they were like, those flip-flopping. Yeah, they got him flip-flopped, the like a democrat has been a trope now ever since I believe. Yep. Imagine ever being able to modulate a position on a thing. Although as we have discussed on this show previously, a friend of the show and leader of political party One Nation, Pauline Hanson, has been playing a really dumb game with the, was that the company tax cuts that that the liberal government in Australia has been trying to pass And as part of this what she's been craftily doing is saying to them I'll pass them if you do this thing I want and they go now maybe and she goes I'm not gonna pass them and they go maybe and she goes I'm not gonna pass them. they're no. they're not gonna pass their the so I th so so so I th. th. So I th. So I th. So I th. So I th. So I th. So I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I they. I'm I'm I'm they. I'm not they. I'm not. I'm they. I'm I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I th. I th. I I I I I th. I I I th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not interested in doing anything. And she goes, I will pass them. And she just keeps switching a position all the time. As we mentioned within the last week, I feel, One Nation's Senator Brian Burstin has quit the party as a result of Pauline Hanson constantly switching her position on this.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And he quit the party. She lost a Senate seat over this when the position that she wound up settling on was the position that Brian Burstam wanted her to continue to hold. So very well done from Pauline here. Theo has found us a fun little clip of Pauline Hansen defending her right to flip flop. I'm doing flip flop in inverted commasop. I'm doing flip-flop in inverted commas here. I'm doing my fingers, my fingers around the microphone. Would we like to hear that clip folks? Yes, as long as you stop talking. No, never. I could talk to five to ten minutes longer about this. Anyway, here we go. I haven't flip-flopped. I said no originally, then I said yes, then I have said no and I've stuck to it.
Starting point is 00:14:11 If they want to accuse me, or the Labour Party, I can imagine in down the chamber today again, she's flip-flopping. You know, that's my prerogative and I will change my mind as many times I want to, and to, and to to to to to ensure to ensure to to to to ensure to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me, I to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me.. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to the to to to toe. toe. toeck. toa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toeck. toeck. toe I want to and to ensure that I come up with the right decision. Who was she talking to in that second interview? She was talking to the guy from Sunrise or whatever. What's the name? What's his name? Stefanovic?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, it sounded a bunch like him. It's weird that he was agreeing with him. He was like, yeah, exactly. Just keep changing your mind, whatever. Yeah. Very silly. Very silly stuff from Pauline there. I just, how does she, I just can't believe she talks like that. If, if I want to keep changing my mind. Every time I hear a voice, it's so funny. She's so close to the verge of tears all the time. It's the to. to tie. to. to. toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the the. the so close to the verge of tears all the time. It's like she's just constantly being forced to recognize her own incompetence. Every day. Which I mean, who among us?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh yeah. Imagine just constantly being, just having someone hold up a big mirror in front of your face and going, are you happy? You going, oh, come on. Oh, dear. Theo has provided us with an extra quote here. Of Pauline Hanson arguing that the hex repayment threshold for unigraduates should be lowered to $45,000 because, quote, I'm sure they could go without a couple of coffees a week
Starting point is 00:15:41 to pay back their obligation to Australian taxpayers? My God. I was really mad about this. Really, I was really mad about this until I read the details of it and it's not, it's not super awful. But Pauline can still go fuck herself because I want my couple of coffees. It's kind of shit though, like that passed this week, didn't it? The lower end of the threshold th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th th. Oh, th th th th th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, that, the that, the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that this week didn't it? The lower the threshold from like 54 down to 45 or something? Yeah but it's like measured up depending on like the way it is like now as
Starting point is 00:16:16 soon as you pass it you have to pay like $2,000 at least but like that 40 whatever thousand is only gonna be like 400 bucks a year or something I think I saw. it still sucks. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th is th is thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus th. I th. A th. A thrown. A thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrush. thrush. threshold threshold threshold. threshold. threshold. threshold. threshold. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the thrown thrown thrown thrown the. the. the. the. the. the. thrown thro throe. thrown thrown thrown th 40 whatever thousand is only going to be like 400 bucks a year or something I think I saw It still sucks great. Yeah, that's not ideal. They don't erode this shit I'd rather they just didn't charge for university education. I'd rather they didn't make me pay it back at all because I signed up for it when I was 16. thea thiii to thi to me when I was 16. I was 16. I was th. I was 16. I was 16. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th- th- th- th- thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th. th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was th. I was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th. th. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the th th. very unfair to me on a legal basis. It's like that signing up for the army when you're 16 or 17 in the States kind of shit. You know, they get like marine recruiters to come around and go, hey kid, you like video games? You like halo? Hey, do you want to shoot a brown person with a gun? Hmm. You want to shoot some kind of alien?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Huh? You've been shooting the covenant. Why not shoot Iraqi civilians? Yep. Why not shoot the... Oh, see this is going to fall apart because I don't know like what say the bad guys from Halo are? What are the bad guys from HALO?
Starting point is 00:17:19 The covenant. Oh, there you go. But hey, I mean, if you want to have another pass at my joke. Well, I do. I do and it will become apparent why in a second. How about shooting Earth's covenant? Isis. Hey, pukes.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Speaking of ISIS. Speaking of ISIS, noted great big shit eater. Lyle Shelton, who I think, eat shit, Lyle. Ea shit, Lyle. Now, whatever happened with the, wasn't he running like a fucking Senate campaign or something? Wasn't he gonna run for like, Corridor- He was for the Australian Conservatives party. I don't know if the election has happened yet.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But, um, but boy, how could you expect him to lose with all that charisma and a face that looks like it's going to just crumple in on itself every time he tries to smile? He's a man who looks like he's perpetually apologizing. And he should be. Well, yes, I wish he was. Sorry for being bored. Sorry, sorry for being bored. His smile is like the, the cringy, apologetic face of someone who, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just my creditor's face. He's his smile is like the the cringy apologetic face of someone who it's just the face of someone every time he's like running into his mother-in-law who caught him jacking off in the bathroom. He has the exact face of Brad Pitt in burn after reading just before he gets his head
Starting point is 00:18:41 gone off. Oh my God! He does. He looks like a dog doing a shit when you make eye contact with it. He's like the obsequious clinger on in every movie that ends up betraying them. Oh absolutely. I was just watching Ronan the other night and it's like a good film. Yeah he's like Sean Bean in that, you know, after he gets humiliated. Yes. Sorry that it it turns out I'm actually a big piece of shit. Eat shit.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Each year while. So, it really seems like since, since the whole attempt to railroad the marriage equality argument in Australia, didn't work out. And, you know, his team lost the vote as to whether or not we should have a marriage to have marriage equality argument in Australia didn't work out and you know his team lost the vote as to whether or not we should have marriage equality it kind of seems like something snapped in Lyle's brain maybe. That last little thing that was tethering him to reality has kind of just, it's kind just snapped. And Lyle did a little post the other day.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Theo, have you got any idea what service this is from? This post? Facebook, I thought. Hang on, where did I? It's got like a whole background image on it. So it was, it was, um, a date. It was it was a date. Yeah it was pulled from a Twitter from a journalist's Twitter. It was Josh Nose. Yeah. No I don't know. I'm sorry. There's some weird service. And Lyle has posted something here in relation to the Greens
Starting point is 00:20:24 party asking yet again should we actually be having the Greens Party asking yet again, should we actually be having the Lord's prayer before Parliament every day? Particularly in a country, yeah particularly in a country that's meant to be all about separation of church and state and that kind of thing. Lyle's response to this is very, very normal. It's exactly what you or I would have posted in the same circumstances. And it starts off like this. Like ISIS, blowing up archaeological sites on the Nive Plains, the Greens have laid explosive charges at the foot of one of the last remaining artifacts reminding us of what has made our nation great. Like ISIS, the Greens hate our foundations.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So the Lord's prayer which is said faithfully at the opening of Parliament each day is again in the Green sites. Like ISIS, they are trying to destroy something of our cultural heritage that is precious. Wow. Exactly like ISIS. that is precious. Wow. Exactly like ISIS. Hmm. Normal stuff. All because one of Australia's political parties said, do we really have to say thanks to Jesus before we start work every day.
Starting point is 00:21:41 In what is supposed to be a secular country. And that has made Lyle absolutely lose his shit. in what is supposed to be a secular country. And that has made Lyle absolutely lose his shit. What else do you guys think is like ISIS? Um, McDonald's when they put sweet and sour sauce in my bag instead of ketchup. What the fuck? Sweet sour sauce is delicious, Theo. No. I always have to get an extra sweet and sour sauce because if I get nuggets or whatever the fuck,
Starting point is 00:22:09 it's the best sauce. My wife just steals my sweet and sour sauce. She goes, this must be my one. Hey, fellas, don't you hate how your wife is always stealing a sweet and source. That's right. My bag of take away McDonald's. I, obviously, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I th th that, I get, I that, I get, I get, I get, I get, I get, I get, I get that, I get that, I get that, I get that, I get that, I get th. I get th, I get th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. Terrorizing my bag of take-away McDonald's. I obviously I don't get them often or at all but in the times in my life what I did never get sauce with them. I'm always just eating them straight up. There's not a source component to my
Starting point is 00:22:42 nugget eat the moth fucker. Yeah, I'm pretty, they're dry nuggets. I'm dry swallowing the nuggets. Wow. That's, and I assume no drink, just, yeah. I assume that you're high while that's happening. You know what, weirdly, the part of my life where I started getting really fucking high all the time, uh, was roughly around the same time when I stopped eating meat. So there, their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi, I's, I'm, I'm thri- thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thrue, I'm thrue, I'm thrue, I'm thrue, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's th. I's th. I'm thin, I'm the, I'm the, I'm thr-s, thr-s, thr-de, thr-de, thr-due, thr-due, thr-due, thr-due, th same time when I stopped eating meat. So there's actually not a huge crossover between my high experiences and McDonald's. Well, that's good because being high and eaten dry nuggets is just too much. Yeah, that might be a little difficult. That would be bumping up your dryness measure there significantly. Just as like a byproduct of how I live my life.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Most of my high snacking is me just eating like shit loads of soup because it's largely what I have available to me at the time. That's shameful. I work on a very small budget in my life. Please become a subscriber to the show folks and help Ben afford. Please let Ben eat a solid food. Yeah, let Ben get some high snacks that aren't thi Please become a subscriber to the show folks and help Ben afford. Yeah, let Ben get some high snacks that aren't fucking soup. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:23:52 This all liquid diet is making my bones floppy. Oh, I remember for a good stretch of my 20s, the place that I lived and the McDonald's drive-through that I went to near it, for about five years I would go through there and say, let me get my, all my shit, let me get my bucket of shit, and I'd go around the window and they'd be, they'd hand me my drink and they'd be like, sorry, the ice machine's broken, and I'd be like, for three years and I'd be liked, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, so, so, so, the, the, the the the that, I'd that's, I'd that's, I'd that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, go, yep. And that to me, that to me is ISIS. Like ISIS. And so, roting the foundations of what makes our country great. Is when McDonald's is ice machine, look, you can get it, we fucking know you can get it fixed.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's like it's impossible to fix an ice machine, ridiculous. Charity muggers, ISIS. They're literally ISIS. That's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right. Yeah. Yeah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And th. And th. thi, thi, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to me to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me to me to me to me to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me to me, to me, to me, to me, to to to fix an ice machine ridiculous. Charity muggers? Isis? They're literally ISIS. Yeah, it's true. Right up my nose, those guys. They just, like the extent to which, because I, like, I live in an area, like I live relatively close to like a main street that generally gets a lot of charity mongers, and so I'm walking back and forth like, I don't know, three or four times a day, every single day, but because they're all backpackers and like seasonal workers, essentially, that's never the same people every day.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So it's not like, they're like, oh, hey, it's that guy we hit up yesterday. We'll leave him alone today every goddamn time. So the, like, the securitest routes I will take to avoid these people are fucking crazy. I'm adding like 20 minutes to my trip. Just so that I don't have to make eye contact with someone to be like, yes, you said something weird about my tattoos, no, I'm not going to stop and talk to you, please leave me alone. Let's all take a moment though to appreciate the Portman Toe that I only became aware of very recently which is chuggers.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, tie even chuggers before. So close to a racial slur that I feel uncomfortable with it. Chuggers with a hard arm. Oh, no, thank you. Oh, man. I walked past one yesterday and he made eye contact with me far too early. Like I was still maybe 40 meters away and he's like thrown a shakker up at me and I'm just like, oh this is not a good sign.
Starting point is 00:26:18 So I'm sort of doing the weird apologetic smile already, but he's not within hearing range for me to be like, no thank you. So we're just sort of staring at each other and I don't know where to look, and I to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look look look look look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and look, and to look, and to look, and to look, and to look, and to look, and to look, and to look, to look, to look, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to within hearing range for me to be like no thank you so we're just sort of staring at each other and I don't know where to look and I feel anxious I get close to him I lie obviously and I'm like no sorry mate can't talk a moment I'm on my way to work which is never to I'm never on my way to work and and he clearly could tell that I'm making it up, because he's like, oh, oh, what do you do? I'm just like, ah, where would someone at 9.45 in the morning be walking to?
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm a bartender? The pub, I'm going to the pub. And like, it was just so unconvincing. It took me so long to answer him, because I'm like, in my head, like, cunching, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, where, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, what's plausible? And then as I'm walking away, it's just like, oh, I love you to Tasmanian Tiger Tattoo, man. I'm like, oh, cool, cool. Just so flustered from having to try to think of a job. I hate the whole like very incredibly clear sales tactic of pick a notable feature on the person of the clothing and compliment them. Oh yeah, I love it. I hate. I the the the the the the the the the the the to love you the to love you the to love the to love you the to love to love the the to love the the the the to love you, I have the the the the the the the the the ta, I love you ta, I love you, I love you, I love you ta, I love you ta, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I love tape. I love tape. I love tape. I love tape, I love tape, I love tas. I love task. I love ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta, I love ta, I love ta, I love ta, I love the moment of two. I hate that shit so much.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I have developed a technique which is that because I am always wearing headphones whenever I'm doing anything in public, what I do is I keep my headphones in playing, playing whatever they're playing and as the person makes eye contact with me and starts talking I can't hear what they're saying, and I just shake my head. I hold eye contact as I'm walking past and I shake my head, no. And I keep walking. You're a stronger man than I am. That's what I want to do, but I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I look him in the eyes and just shake my head. I don't be th wa th wa. Yeah, that's what working in the Melbourne CBD for how many years has done to me. Because they're just like on every fucking corner, yeah. Oh man, well, Theo, you know, they have like, basically the city locked down. They're like, on either side of Queen Street Mall, there's always like a whole bunch of them and around like King George Square and stuff. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, th, th, the, tho, tho, tho, thee, thi, thi, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu. thu. thu. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, tha, tha, tha, like, like, thauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. tha, tha, Street Mall, there's always like a whole bunch of them and around like King George Square and stuff. So if you're walking from like the Riverside through to Roma Street or whatever, you pass through like 12 of them and it's impossible to avoid them. Oh yeah. Well I used to work like in the same building as a train station. Oh fuck all the ones that are out the front of Roma Street station. All the time. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho tho that's the that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the the the th Roma Street station all the time. Oh man, those are the worst. You can sort of avoid those if you like coming from the city, go up into Roma Street a little bit and then down out at the exit near the car park. But obviously it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I remember a friend of the show, Ben Jenkins was doing a thing on the checkout about charity muggers. their consumer affairs show, so this is applicable for the, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, like, coming, coming, like, like, coming, like, like, like, coming, like, coming, like, like, coming, coming, coming, coming, like, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, the the the their, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, the their their their the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thing on the checkout about charity muggers for that. Obviously they're a consumer affairs show so this is applicable for them and he was saying one of the big takeaways was that they work in terms of raising money. Oh yeah that's what I've heard which I find wild because I just want them to fuck off and not even look at me. Yeah but the problem is that the money doesn't go to the charity? Well, I think... Well, his partial takeaway at least was that in some charities that it does, but there are a lot of places obviously where it does not. I think for a good chunk of them, I remember reading some thing in the age about it years ago,
Starting point is 00:29:40 where they were talking about how the general structure for them is that these these places offer their services to various charities and say you don't have to pay us anything but we will take a commission out of the donations from people and this is why if you say here is a $20 note for your charity they go no no no I'm gonna need your credit card details and a recurring subscription and they say we need X amount of $20 a note for your charity. They go, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna need your credit card details and a recurring subscription. And they say, we need X amount of dollars month
Starting point is 00:30:10 on your credit card, blah, blah, blah. And for the majority of these things, they take 90 plus percent of the donation on a monthly basis, for the first year or two. And then it goes down to like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the to thoeck., to to to to thoeck., to to to to to to to to to tooeck., tooeck., tooeck., tooomoomoomoomoomorrow, toxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx...., toex., toex., toext., toext., toext., toextextextaauuuuu., toeauuu., toeau., toeau., toeau., toeau. toeau. toeau. toexthen it goes down to like 70-80% of the donation and it slowly tapers off over the course of several years down to whatever percentage but I mean like you can't you can't blame the charity in the sense that they're all going to be strapped for funding and resources and if somebody comes to them and says, hey look we'll go out and do this stuff
Starting point is 00:30:45 and you'll get some portion of it, and the longer people stay on, the more of it you'll get. Something is better than nothing, especially if it's not eating into what very limited resources charities have. That's true. I won't defend the charity muggers though. Sorry if this is your job, but I thi, that's th th is th is th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the their, and I their, and I'll their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and their, and their, and their, and their, and I their, and I their, and I their, and I's th job, but I think it would be better if you joined ISIS. That's ISIS to me.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Everyone involved in the transaction knows that it sucks. Yeah. Which is what I hate, like, is that I hate the concept of what they do to me personally so much, but like, for a lot of these people, it's literally like their first day doing it because they're these fucking English backpackers that have come over and are just like, oh cool, I'm getting paid like 25 bucks an hour or whatever. Promotions. Oh, that's weird. Every single piece of the person that walks past me wishes I was dead. Like that sucks us. It sucks. I will always remember a guy that I used to live with talking about how when he was between jobs at some point,
Starting point is 00:31:45 he I think he used to work sales like he worked in like Telstra stores and stuff like that, you know, and he was between jobs and there was an ad for, hey, do a sales job for commission and stuff. Oh man, the ads for these places are always super vague. It's always like dynamic sales environment. And you're like, interesting. I wonder what that means. He's standing on the street haranguing people. And he went to this thing and the, to do the training, and the training was being conducted by a guy in like, you know, sandals and hemp pants with dreadlocks and shit. And it was like, This guy was like, uh, you like, you th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You thi thi thi thi thi, you thi, you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. Oh, thin, th. Oh, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. It's th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin. And, thin. It's, thin. It's, and shit. And it was like, this guy was like, you can make $20,000 a week doing this job. You think I got dreadlocks because I like it?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Hell no, I got dreadlocks and it makes people sign up for this shit. I spent all weekend driving around in my seven series BMW. And, uh, and at this point he said, I need to go now. I need to go now. I feel covered in filth. Wasn't there a big thing in the news recently about a... Oh, maybe it wasn't for charity muggers.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Oh, fuck, what was it? I think it was maybe one of those things. You know the people that go door to door for the like, third party energy selling things I don't know if you've got with those before where like their training seminars were just like shockful of these like crazy HR violations of getting people to do these fucking insane things. I wish I could think of what it was. But I can't. So uh...
Starting point is 00:33:20 Oh good stuff. Well, take that to the bank. Well, moving on. Last week or earlier this week, even, we, th, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we were, we were, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-a, thi, thi, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where. Well, take that to the bank. Well, moving on. Last week, or earlier this week even, we were doing a bonus episode. Did you know you can get bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon. Forms slash Mundevisa, only $5 a month. We were doing a bonus episode, opened up the old mail bag. They got quite a few questions about noted massive dip shit Australian right-wing fuck Blair Cottrell who I believe can be is one of the few people who can incredibly accurately be described as a brick shit-ass.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah steroids have ruined his brain on a very real level theatr-l his brain on a very real level. Incredibly real level. We had a letter from a friend of the show Duny who said noted dipship Blair Cottrell harassing a street performer in Melbourne in defense of public decency, disgust. We had a couple of other ones too. Quite a few. So the reason this is in the news is, so Blair Cottrell is a noted figure in Australia's far right scene and a huge piece of shit, spends all his time harassing people online and holding meetings where he talks about why Western civilization rules and all
Starting point is 00:34:47 the other things like feminism and Islam drool. This dude, I think maybe one of his distinguishing things from a bunch of other far-right Australian figures is that he's not trying to mask being a straight up neo-Nazi. Yeah, he's solid neo-nazi. But like he is very, he's obviously a white supremacist and he talks about it unlike a lot of these other people that you know are talking about Western chauvinism or whatever instead of just saying, like, hey, I prefer white people. Hmm. It's like when I was calling someone a fucking idiot on Twitter a couple months ago and
Starting point is 00:35:29 I was like, oh you're one of these guys who's into like race science and shit? And they replied very earnestly, the term is race realism and another thing, I was like, hmm, it kind of doesn't matter what you call it. Anyway, the reason that Blair has been in the news is because, allow me to read to you from this piece that Theo has kindly gathered for us. A Melbourne Street performer has been harassed and intimidated by United Patriots' front, L.P.F. Leader Blair Cottrell, who says he took offense to the performer's costume and choice of music. Street performer Daniel Aldica, who performs as Dandy Man, was doing his routine in Melbourne's Federation Square
Starting point is 00:36:16 when he was approached by United Patriots Front Leader Blair Cotrell and some of his supporters. In a video uploaded to YouTube by the group, so just just for your context there, they put this video up because they thought it made them look good. Yeah, they do this all the time. Did you guys watch the video? I've seen chunks of it, yes. It genuinely made me feel very uncomfortable like the, they fucking like, they are genuinely extremely physically threatening, like, yeah, they're terrifying. It's fucking, yeah, it's crazy. This dude dealt with it insanely well and there were like only a handful of
Starting point is 00:36:55 people in the crowd, which obviously this would have been terrified, so I'm not trying to lay blame or anything, but like, there was a handful of people that just their people that did sort of just stick up for this guy, which is some fucking street performer that they're watching. They don't know shit about. Now there's one woman in particular in the video who basically like grabs this man and puts him behind her like he is her child. Like she is just like, fuck off! What are you doing? It's genuinely amazing. This woman is a hero. It's incredible. Because Blackstrell is like 7 foot tall and like 100% muscle. The guy looks like he would and could beat anything to death.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And yeah, this woman in her like late 20s or 30s or whatever is. It's just like, no, fuck off. It's amazing. I love that woman. Well, yeah. So for some additional context. In a video uploaded to YouTube by the group, Cottrell has shown interrupting the performance and calling Daniel Oldica a pedophile. The performer attempts to move away from the larger man
Starting point is 00:37:53 who follows him through the crowd, repetitively asking him if he's a pedophile. Quote, we're going to turn this guy's amp off, the tier-stripe. Cotter the tie, he t is is is is th, he th, th, th, th. Cotter, th. Cotter, th. Cotter, th. th. th. th. Cotter, th. thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thiol is thioll says. thiol, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, Daniel, a G-string in front of kids. He was not wearing a G-string. He was not wearing a G-string, no. Is there some context I'm missing? Like, why? Why is this guy a pedophile?
Starting point is 00:38:13 Uh-huh? So, solely because he was doing a performance in like a hot pink leotard like in the... A unitarod per-perh perhaps. Well no I was going to say it like a a unitarod is like the the one-piece bikini the Porat bikini. Yeah this this was like a like a leotard but with sort of shorts built into it you know so it's not even like you know but cheeks in a banana hammock oh yeah so just normal short the do that. Just street performers shit. Way less, you know, revealing than, you know, a woman in a bikini or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Obviously, he would have no problem with what's to ever. Because this is not entirely heteronormitive, it's immediately, you know, peatophilic or whatever. And it's sort of like, the crossroads of their dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip. It. It. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's immediately, you know, pedophilic or whatever, and it's sort of like the crossroads of their dipshittery. It makes you think of like the whole pizza gate thing where it's just like, I, like, I don't, I don't mean to sort of, the sound like this is too much of a reach or anything like this. I try not to play amateur psychologist wherever possible, but if you were the type of person who, any, any like, news story or anything that relates to like pizza or whatever makes you go, you must be a pedophile, a pizza gate pedophile. Like the whole pizza
Starting point is 00:39:44 gate thing of people obsessively believing that absolutely everything to do with politics and celebrity and anything else makes everyone a pedophile just kind of makes me go, what kind of projection is this? What kind of like weird... I... I honestly, I really struggled to fathom it. Like, I remember seeing a thing on Twitter a while ago where like some Australian, sorry not Australian, some American pizza company was running a competition where it was like, hey, we'll send pizza to you, where ever you are, we'll fly pizza to you. And all these people were genuinely replying like, oh, so you're gonna fly like children to them to have sex with? That's normal, normal brain.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah yeah and that's it's just that shit that makes me go like you know that if you just see this thing that is ostensibly harmless to everybody else around you and all you can see in it is This this violation this perverted violation it definitely says more about you than it does about the thing And this Blair Cottrell shit is absolutely right up there to go on the performer was wearing a pink leotide costume as Cot and his group approached the performer's music is turned off. Cotrell is seen following the performer through the crowd repeatedly asking him if he's a pedophile swearing at him and telling him to leave the space. Aldica tries to get the attention of police. When an audience member confronts Codrall the performer runs across the road to get police assistance. Quote, it's It's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's the the the their, their, their, their, their, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. the. theole. the. the. today, the today, the the tr. today, the the. the the the. the the thto get police assistance. Quote, it's disgusting. I don't like it, Cotrell has heard saying.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Off camera, one of his colleagues is heard calling a member of the public, quote, a communist faggot. When Aldica returns with the police, Cotrell says, quote, it's just disgusting, it's just not on. Cotrel asked the police to arrest the performer for indecent exposure. The police refuse and note that this act has been approved by the city of Melbourne Council and he has a permit to perform. The Cotrell appeared on radio station 3AW to defend his actions and said the performer had spoken to him in a quote passive aggressive manner and he took action to protect children. Quote, he's dancing in a pink mankini in front of toddlers,
Starting point is 00:42:05 Codrell claimed. Again, feel free to look at the footage, not a mankini. I don't know if he knows what that is. Quote, I don't know why anyone would stand up for him. It's obscene and I'm sick of seeing that kind of thing on social mothed, sometimes whether it's videos from Mardi Gras or some sort of modern festival. I'm glad I stood up against this guy and I'd encourage other people to start doing it too. So good that 3AW got him on to defend himself and then to incite other dipshits whose brains have shrunk to the size of peanuts from steroid use to, you know, go out and be violent towards things that you don't like. Yeah, super normal. It's very good. And it's great that we keep doing this on like our morning shows and on conservative radio and what have you because you just got to get them on and nodded out.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yep, certainly nothing bad has happened from normalizing this sort of shit so far. Yeah, no, he seems like a huge fucking idiot and I can't understand why people keep giving him the time to explain himself? Even that sort of shit. It's obscene and I'm sick of seeing that kind of thing on social media sometimes, whether it's videos from Mardi Gras or some sort of modern festival. So this is spanning from, like, you know, him seeing this thing in public and also him seeing stuff that is kind of like this on social media that might be videos from a pride festival.
Starting point is 00:43:51 This gay looking dudes at pride. Hey, what the heck? Or some sort of modern festival. Unbelievable. And like, you know, I hate to come back to the old well, but my first thought when I saw him fighting with people about this on Twitter and you know, some lady replied to him was just like, I'm pretty sure that you scared the shit out of these people and their small children
Starting point is 00:44:28 far more than this person, you know, this performer did. No one was holding a gun to their head and making them stand there and watch his performance. If people don't like it, they can move on, you know, people were happily watching this thing. And then you guys have all rolled up and started being very physically threatening and causing an altercation and that would have been much more frightening. Yeah, I love to protect kids by being a fucking violent psychopath. Yeah, yeah, I love to protect kids by causing a scene and acting like I'm about to brain this dude in front of them. Yeah. And um, yeah, and he replied, oh, you actually gonna defend this sort of stuff. You're sick. And like, my thought, you know, I know this isn't terribly woke.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I know it's not a great way to speak, but my first thought was like you absolutely massive bitch. Just, you tremendous pussy. Just, I can't believe, like, just an absolute inability to cope with just seeing people who don't look and behave exactly like yourself existing in the world. Yeah, just having a big meltdown, having a big baby about it. Yeah. Howe it's just a little tantrum. Throwing a fucking fit and demanding that other people stop existing in the same space as you like it's just the most oversensitive shit and yeah just the
Starting point is 00:45:51 whole thing just made me go like you know you guys fancy yourself as some sort of fucking alpha male Western supremacists and shit like acting like it's leftists that are going nuts about their hurt feelings and all this sort of stuff. You just you're unable to See another person and just go well, whatever don't fucking affect me or bother me Just gonna go on it's gonna go lift some more weights. It's so funny to like see them sort of try and simultaneously Positioned themselves as like the defenders of like good values right they're like oh, you know We're out to look out for the the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the children the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th their their thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their th th th th the the the the the the the the the the to to te te to te te the the the the the the the the the the thu thu and simultaneously position themselves as like the defenders of like good values, right? They're like, oh yeah, we're out to look out for the children and stuff, but they're
Starting point is 00:46:28 also balancing against the fact that like the insane amount of horse steroids they take make them want to bash the crap out of every single thing that they see. Hmm. Hmm. It's depressing. I can't even laugh about it because I think, you know, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, you. they're, you. they're, you. they're, you. they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. Yeah, oh, oh, they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like, they're like, they're like, the to. to. to. to. they're like, to. they're like, to. to. to. they're like, they're like No, I mean it's like, I think, you know, there was, remember the whole whole rigmar while around, you know, punching Nazis in America, right? And they punched Richard Spencer, but Richard Spencer is sort of, he's not that kind of figure, right? Like he's the Dapper Nazi. Yeah,, he's not the steroid op-eds try to make us believe at least for sure. Yeah, exactly, right? And you know, and you punch him and he gets quite upset and he falls over, right? And it's funny and it's a bit of like a release of the tension, but not here. I don't, I don't get that at all from this.
Starting point is 00:47:25 It's like scary. This is super fucking scary, right? These are the kind of people that are not threatening to be violent. They are violent, right? So there's that quote that has been attributed to Blair Kottchel on social media. It says, you know, for example, women have manipulated me using sex and emotion, demoralization, and I have manipulated them using violence and terror. We use what we have to get what we want, right?
Starting point is 00:47:54 So this is a very normal thing for someone who's not a complete rapist to say. That's right. And so this is, this is not the sort of Milo kind of demagogue spreading, you know, the, you're sort of, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the sort of Milo kind of demagogue spreading, you know, the, you're sort of crypto-fascism couched in like Western values, right? This is just straight up Nazism and that's what I reckon makes it so difficult to joke about, right? Because you're like, just staring it in the face. It's just... Well, even in Milo's case, when he, like he was saying some shit recently about like, people should start gunning journalists down or whatever, like, I said something fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:48:36 But I just, you know, nobody out there is listening to Milo and saying, wow, he's gonna go and do that. Yeah, like there's like 10 like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thin, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. to. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th., wow, he's going to go and do that. Yeah, like there's like 10 posts on 4chan going like based Milo and that's about it. Yeah, and as I think we've all said the whole time, I think we have all always acknowledged Milo as just, you know, someone who fancies himself and has attempted to model himself as a provocateur. He's just someone who just talk shit. Just tries to rev people up. And as soon as it goes far enough in any given direction to, you know, negatively affect his ability to make money off it, he'll walk it back. Or he'll try to, he'll try to back out of something or adjust it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But you know, like you said. Yeah, but this has none of that sophistication. Yeah, like Blair Cottrell is much more in the like Tommy Robinson mold of going to prison only makes me look better kind of thing. Oh for sure. Yeah, huge piece of shit. We did get, like I said, we did get quite a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th th th th the, uh, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, thue, thue, thue, thue, thue, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, th, like, th, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, that, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like shit we did get so like I said we did get quite few letters about it Including from friend of the show Jack Crook sorry lover of the show Jack Crook Who asked what's your favorite Blair Cottrell misadventure and mine is this pretty recent post from Blair Cottrell on Twitter
Starting point is 00:50:06 in which he makes the extremely insightful comment. I so he's a carpenter apparently I've been in the trade for 13 years been a carpenter for nine years worked for builders big and small and for myself I've never met a leftist in the trade or building industry. Not one. To me, there is a clear correlation between a lack of physical labor and leftist ideals. Yeah, I can't imagine any sort of... Leftist tradies.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah, any correlation between leftism and, what's that word? Labor. Crazy. Hmm. Nope, not seeing it. Not seeing it. I love it just paints the picture that everybody that he works with is just like, fuck talking to this guy.
Starting point is 00:51:00 It's a fucking nut job. I don't want to talk to him about anything. But like, yeah, the idea that there is, there are no leftists in the trade or building industry, which is... It's extremely good. It's extremely good to me. It's the dumbest shit. What are you guys saying? For like international listeners or whatever, just to put that into perspective, Ben and I live in a city where the construction forestry maritime mining and energy union, no one ever says that, the CFMEU, regularly shuts down multiple city blocks for solidarity marches. Oh it's so fucking great just being in the city and being like, oh that's weird, what are those cups? Hey,they are. My boys. I'm not talking about it once off. I'm talking about like since working in the city in the last three years or something. I've seen them shut down the CPD like five times. It's fucking fantastic. But he hasn't seen any of these, so. No. No. Yeah, it's almost like maybe he's on work. he's on. he's on. he's on. he's on. he's on. he's on. he's on. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the the the the th. th. th. the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. th. th. th. th. th. I's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, so... No, no. Yeah, it's almost like maybe he's on work sites constantly blasting his fucking idiotic right-wing shit, and people are just like... Yeah, okay, mate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I mean, I don't know about anybody else, but like... Just work-wise, I... I try to keep shit as light as possible i don't want to get into political stuff with people i work with because whether you agree or disagree you still gotta work with those people and like to be completely honest unless somebody had a view so abhorrent
Starting point is 00:52:42 that i felt like it was genuinely harmful to the people around them. Um, like, you know, people have a right to hold their views and even if you violently disagree with them, you still got to go back in and work with that person. So just find something else to talk about. Yeah, whereas, like I said, in this dushbag's case, I can only guess that he's constantly loudly blasting his opinions about dumb shit and everybody else is going.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I just want to get through this day and fucking go home. Anyway, since we seem to have inadvertently dipped into the mail bag, just dipped into the mail bag a touch. We might as well take a few other questions about with it. Hey, wife of the show, Jordan Smith asks, what types of music are y'all into? Wow, that is a broad question. Where we're from with yall, Lucy's into scar. Oh my God, that is so mean.
Starting point is 00:53:48 That is so mean. Oh, I don't know if I, I don't think I mentioned this on the podcast. But I mean, I think I've made this pretty clear in the past, but I fucking hate scar more than anything else in my life, right? You and Lucy are gonna have to fight about me. I just, it fucking, what, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to, to, to, to, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's to have to fight about me. I just it fucking, it shit's me to tears. I fucking, well, I mean I don't know who loves scar. Who is listening to scar? There's like some early scar that I don't mind but whatever but like modern scar I fucking hate more than life. Well what is modern scar? What is modern scar? Any scar from the last 30 years?
Starting point is 00:54:25 But one of my dear friends and friend of the show, Cam, for my birthday, like at my birthday party sort of hand me a present now and like, I put it aside being like, oh yeah, cool, I'll open that later. And then when I was like pretty shit-faced. He was like, no man. I opened it up. And it was a real big fish t-t-shirt that was signed then when I was like pretty shit-faced he was like no man I open it and I was like okay I opened it up and it was a real big fish t-shirt that was signed by like eight members of the band which is they got half of the real big fish just it's just such an extraordinarily like I can't imagine someone choosing something for me that is such a perfect fuck you. That's such an incredible form of intimacy of choosing something that someone would hate so much. I was just blown away. Oh well I was going to say I'm pretty sure I've seen real big fish live two to three times. Oh my god. I like real big fish. Oh my god. Just real big fish. Purely real big fish. They were fun. Oh, they were fun. They were fun. That. That. That. That that. That that. That that. That that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that's that's that's that's that's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's such. That's such. That's such such such such such such. That's that's that's that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's such such such such such such such such such such such such such such that's such that's such that's such that's such that's such an th. I th. I that's such an th. I th th. I that's such such such an that's such an th. I that's such such an that's such that's such that's that's that's such th.to three times my life. I like real big fish okay. Oh my god! Just real big fish! Purely real big fish.
Starting point is 00:55:27 They were for I agree with Lucy. This is this is the one Scar Band like Get Behind. They also had their like kind of um South Park guys association as well. They were on the basketball soundtrack. They were in the movie. Yes. Yeah. I blame basketball for the scars popularity in the movie. Yes. Yep. I blame basket ball for the Scar's popularity in a large sense. That's fair. Uh, but uh, yeah, yeah. Well, I tell you what, I've been listening to, um, Rikuda's new album, a fair bit called Prodigal Sun.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Motherfucker's like 75 and he's still dropping good albums, folks. And boy does he do good soundtracks to movies. Yes. I was like, what movie was I watching that he did this ad? And then I realized it was the movie that we both watched for the podcast that we're doing shortly. Yeah, and we will advertise that to people when it comes out. Once we've actually done it. Yes, yes, I made Ben get up early on Saturday morning to record a podcast with a good Canadian friends.
Starting point is 00:56:34 And then over the course of half an hour it became clear that we were off by a week. So my apologies to Ben. Oh look, my lived. I'll be alright. Yeah, you'll be okay. What about you, Lucy? What are you listening to at the moment? that? th? th? th? th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. thi. to to thi. to to to thi. to to to to the to to to the to to the to to the to the the the the thean. Yes, the the. Ah look, my lift. I'll be alright. Yeah, you'll be okay. What about you, Lucy? What are you listening to at the moment? What am I listening to? I'm, hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I don't want to say anything embarrassing. It's fine. We're a broad church, right? It's true. I have a very broad music tastes and sometimes I listen to things things things Sometimes I listen to new scar and sometimes listen to old scar. Sometimes I stop listening to 80s and 90s Australian rock occasionally. And I have done that to be listening to logic. Oh yeah, I like a bit of logic.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I like logic. He's quite good. I'm into it. Mm-hmm. It's good stuff. And you don't know if he's white or black. It's very confusing. It's very vague. I like it. He'll tell you all about it. Don't worry. You know there's a new 9-inch nail ZP yet? Oh, really? Yeah. Trent Reson just keeps sneaking him out there man. It's um. It's got an extremely, it Bowie just before his death vibe. That new one? That was a good one. Yeah, it's got like kind of weird jazz brass on it. And the last track on that new EP, which I think is called Bad Witch or Bad Witches.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I was convinced that it was David Bowie singing on the final track on there. Wow. I was like oh was he snuck away a David Bowie vocal somewhere and broken it out because of course they have recorded together in the past. The problem is that David Bowie is in fact dead now. It is called Bad Witch. But yeah, the very last track on there. So it sounds quite a bit like, some of the tracks on there sound quite a bit like David Bowie's final album, Blackstar. That was called, with the jazzy stuff going on there. So that was pretty cool. What about you, Theo?
Starting point is 00:58:45 What are you listening to? Lots of stuff. So I just started listening to the Mountain Goats' last album, Goths, which is really good. The last couple of years, I think my favorite albums have been, so Pale Horses by Me Without You, which is a post-hardcore band. I know Ben is a bit of a fan as well. I love me with about you. Not as much as George introduced me to Me Without You and she's fucking nuts about him,
Starting point is 00:59:18 but they are very good. Yeah, I saw them live like, what, three years? They too once every 44 years, I believe George went to that same concert. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know. And that was fucking Ace. Really enjoyed Sanfor's debut album, UK producer. It's very, very good. And there's a sort of bit prog metal, but like a bit, just like straight up rock kind of debut album by Black Peaks, which is very good as well.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And of course the best band in the world is Ocean Size and nobody's ever heard them. So, good as well. And of course the best band in the world is Ocean Size and nobody's ever heard them. So, fan them as well. Your evangelism for Ocean Size I find fucking wonderful. I'm not delighted. I will be rooting for them until the day I die. I am like, I'm so close to doing the exact same thing for Carnival. Oh, man, I listen, no, no, for sure. I'll listen to a Carnival. th to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to th. I th. I th, I'm so close to doing the exact same thing for Carnival. I'm gonna listen. Yeah, no, no, for sure, man. I listen to a Carnival album today.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Oh, good band. Australian Prog Rock, what a genre. Yeah. Why not? I've also been listening to a sexy R&B album by Daniel Caesar called Freudian. Hmm, nice. It's pleasant if you like a bit of a, I don't know, whatever you would call it, Canadian, Canadian R&B I guess. Sounds awful when you put it that way. A bit racist of you to say that, Lucy. You can be racist against Canadians. It's totally
Starting point is 01:01:04 acceptable. Ah, but he's black. Oh. Oh, niceto say that, Lucy. You can be racist against Canadians. It's totally acceptable. Ah, but he's black. Oh, no. Oh, bad look, Lucy. You got me there. Hmm. You got anything, any scar you wanted to throw in there, Ben. Yeah, obviously. I've been listening to the shit out of the fucking new sleep album, the sciences. Fucking, oh, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I I I th. Fucking. Oh, just imagine.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Imagine if the world's single best stone and metal band that released perhaps the single best album and then did nothing since, or except for one single ten minute long song in 2014. As a surprise, dropped, uh dropped an entire album completely out of the blue on the date that is rendered in America as 420, and that album turned out to be really fucking good. So that happened to me. I've also been listening to a shitload of dialect recently, which is sp like dialect, but with two dots over the A. There are New Jersey hip-hop duo who are insanely politically charged and just fucking incredible. The title track off abandoned language is one of the most bleak, honest, saddest portrayals
Starting point is 01:02:26 of just like being black in America in the 21st century and it is fucking just grim and incredibly well. It's beautiful. It's very worth listening to. I've listened to one song of theirs today as well a bunch of times actually that is just them doing instrumentals of a bit of a speech from... Oh fuck I need to find his name. Is it? No.
Starting point is 01:02:53 So he's a black radical preacher. Um... Fucking, he's really... God damn it was really controversial in the States. But the song is Blessed of they who bashed children's head against a rock, which is obviously quite a grim. It's very grim. But it's, yeah, it's incredible. It's just talking about like, because this was during the height of the Iraq war, I believe in sort of when they were talking mostly about the terrorism........... the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the state, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, um, um, the, um, the, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, the, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's incredible. It's just talking about like, because this was during the height of the Iraq war, I believe, and sort of when they were talking mostly about
Starting point is 01:03:28 terrorism, but they're talking about all the things historically that Black America is done. Um, I can't find it, but definitely, blessed to they who bashed their children's head against Iraq by dialect. Listen to that. It's just, it's like like a like a like a minute the the the the the their their their th th. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like a minute, it's like a minute, it's like a minute, it's like a minute, it's like a minute, it's like a minute their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, thi. It's like, their children's head against a rock by dialect. Listen to that. It's just, it's like a minute and a half long and it is fucking harrowing. Uh, also, Roller Trio have a new album out. Uh, if you are into, uh, like, contemporary prog jazz. Sure, I feel like, you guys are just making up like bands. That's the thing. Roller Trio Fucking Rule. It's like if Tool were a jazz band and Walk Full of Rayburn. That's literally my nightmare.
Starting point is 01:04:11 If Toll were a jazz band. If Tool were a jazz band. That's right, folks. It's right. No, they're good folks. They're good folks. And they've got a new album out. Check it out. Roller Trio. I think they're British. It might even be British. Who knows? Anyway, that'll about do it for this week. Don't forget, you can sign up for an extra episode every week for only
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