Boonta Vista - EPISODE 80: The Year In Posting (Featuring @robrousseau)

Episode Date: January 6, 2019

To ring in the New Year we've got Rob Rousseau of 49th Parahell to recap the nightmare that was Posting In 2018. We're covering what the AR stands for in AR-15 (Assault Rifle) and the tweets that lead to Rob being prominently featured on Fox News. You can find Rob on Twitter: https://twitter.com/robrousseau You can find Rob on 49th Parahell: https://soundcloud.com/user-686239931 Support the show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Bountavista episode 79. I'm here with Ben. Hey, Ben. Sounding a little low energy today I'm worried about you. What's going on? Look, I bought Super Smash by this. And I've been playing whatever the fuck, the like, the mode where you walk around and you beat spirits up for some shit.

And I have just been like, I've spent the last, gonna call it hour, playing the same 30 seconds over and over and over again without getting any better at it, and it's just, it sucked the juice out of my body. Nice. We also have flying in from Hawaii Lucy. What's going on Lucy? Been playing Kingdom Hearts again. Why? Oh damn it. I've been very mad. I forgot how annoying of a game it is. Sometimes the games it doesn't tell you what you need to do all the time so you spend just the hours like try to figure out what you're supposed to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be, to be, to be a to be, the the the to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi.lue, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the do all the time so you spend just hours like trying to figure out what you're supposed to be doing. Which one are you playing? Oh so a Japanese game you mean? Yeah exactly, exactly. Well apparently this is a gaming podcast now and joining us all the way from Sunny Canada

it's a friend of the show, Rob Russo. Hello, Rob. Has Rob's Mike already died? Is it already dead? He warned us about this before we came back. He's he's around. Refresh that page. He's here. He's tugged. Fuck.

With three exclamation marks into the chat. Good sign. We promise we have real guests and friends. I'm going to do a Canadian accent and be... Oh, it's a friend of the show. Hello. Hi. Hello. I'm glad. I'm very happy to be here.

Thanks for having me on the the program. Oh, thank you. Thank you for joining us. We've um, it's taken us a few weeks to hook it up. What with the old international time differences? It's the end of the year. We've all got shit going on. Everybody's tired. Just tired of, uh, tired of 2018. A little tired of life right about now. Yep. Ready from a Christmas holidays folks. I'm just exhausted. Speaking of exhausting stuff, let's see what's in the news. Great. I as everybody knows I'm very pro-scam on this show. It's not necessarily a view that is shared by my co-hosts. But there's just a certain line at which like con artistry and scamming passes into what I think of as legitimate work. People are putting in genuine labor and I think they deserve to be rewarded for their efforts.

So there has been a thing that's been doing the rounds in Australia at the moment, which is a scam from people purporting to be from the Australian tax office, the ATO. And this has been like a very, very prominent thing. My wife got one of these voicemails, where you get a voicemail that says we are going to arrest you. There is a warrant out for your arrest and you need to call us immediately kind of thing. According to Queensland Police Financial and Cybercrime, Group Detective Inspector Melissa Anderson. In the past year the ATO was notified about the scam more than 81,000 times.

So that's only people who bothered to call them up and say, Wow. Hey, did you know people are leaving these voicemails? So it's a piece on the ABC, which I know it's not supposed to tickle me, but it does. Ashley Carey, 28, never thought she would easily fall prey to such a scam until she found herself on the receiving end of an automated phone call telling her she was being investigated for tax fraud. Miss Kerry from Longford, in the states north, was told to call back a Melbourne number

immediately. She said the scammer on the other end of the line threatened her with being arrested if she did not comply with his demands. Quote, they said, if you put me on hold or you hang up, you will be arrested. So I was like, Kriki. That was the pull quote from the news. She was very good. Ms. Kerry was informed that her tax returns were incorrect over recent years and that she owed about $5,000 in back taxes. Bombarded with information about which tax clauses she had breached and under threat of being

told not to hang up, quote, because the federal police had a warrant out for her arrest. Ms. Kerry believed what she was hearing. She said what made the scam seem even more real was that when she asked to speak to her her accountant, the scammer agreed. The scammmer asked Missed to Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the told the sca told the sca told the sca the sca the sca told the sca the sca the sca told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told told their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the told the told told told told told told name and phone number and then called a third party while she was on the line. Miss Kerry said the scammer told her that the third party, an Australian man, was her accountant. Um... There was the third party on the line as the ATO were having a discussion with my apparent accountant talking about what the issues were, she said, and my accountant could see the mistakes. He took the blame and said th th th th said th said th said th said thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi the the thi the the thi thi. the the the the thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their s' their s' their s' the sca. the sca. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-s. thr-s. tolea. tolea. tolea. tole. tole. tole. tole. tole. tole. tole. tole. the. ting about what the issues were, she said, and my accountant could see the mistakes, he took the blame and said that it had to be paid. Be asking my accountant if she doesn't know what her accountant

sounds like though or? Who? I'm that like... I guess not. What's sort of normal 28-year-old if someone says, I want to speak to your accountant would be like, oh, let me, I've got their phone number memorized. Oh, that's Jeff. That's my, my good long-time friend. My old accountant. I mean, I don't know about anybody else, but my, the extent of my experience with accountants has been like, just limited to the specific interaction. Yes. It's been like, I went to H&R block once to get my taxes donexes, taxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, to, to, to, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to, to, to, to, to, th. to, to, tha, to, tha, tha, to, tha, to, tha, tha, tha, thi, to, to, thi, to, to H&R Block once to get my taxes done because I had neglected to do an income tax return for six years or whatever, you know. Well, I mean, I don't want to try to be a big shot or anything.

It's not like I'm always hanging out with my accountant, but I feel like I would know Michael. that's not Michael's voice. No, but actually this is not exclusive to Australia. I actually got one th. I think I'd know Michael's voice. Yeah. No, but actually, this is not exclusive to Australia. I actually got one of these calls last year. Oh, right here in Montreal. Oh. Saying that you owed the Australian government money.

Not the Australian government, but the Canadian government. Yeah. Yeah. I like where it starts getting multi-layered here, so they've bought a person in who has claimed to be her accountant. To make it worse, when Miss Kerry said she wanted to speak with her accountant without the ATO there, the scammer agreed, and within moments her accountant's phone number was calling her. That was the scariest part, Miss Kerry said. The number that showed up on my phone was my accountant's number. What? Yeah, so they've like spoofed the phone number that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that she that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th th. th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thed thed thed thed thed thed thed thed thed the the the the the the to to to to to the to to to the to to the to to the to the the to the the the the the the the that showed up on my phone was my accountant's number. What? Yeah, so they've like spoofed the phone number that she's given them. Oh right, she gave him the phone number. Yeah, so she's giving it to them.

They've... Convinced that, quote, the coppers were coming for me. She was then told by the scammer, and here's, all right, here's the point, right? I feel like in all these things, there's a point at which you should be like, hang on. Convince that the coppers were coming for me, she was then told by the scammers to purchase a bunch of iTunes gift cards. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The gift card scan. That famous way that we all pay back the governments for our, you know, the end of year. I true it's gift card. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm assuming, I've never really gone into any depth with anyone about this, but I'm assuming that the point of this is that like, that the gift card thing is like a, this is not not refundable once you have purchased that and given it away to someone else, like they can't just... It's not like if you give someone your credit card details, they can call the bank up 10 minutes later and say, I'm not sure about this shit, can you cancel my credit card? Yeah. She said, in my head I was like, gee, that sounds a bit suss. But then he kept saying, you'll get arrested arrested and I just sort of freaked out again.

She purchased $500 worth in one transaction and was lining up to buy another $500 worth. What saved her from going through with the scam was Alistair was Alistair, a customer service employee who noticed she was buying a lot of gift cards and pointed Miss Kerry to a document from the A-triple-C warning of this very scam. The store refunded all the cards on the spot and she did not lose any money. So she gets a happy ending at least. Oh, that's nice. That's good.

But you know, all I'm saying is to you got to like scratch off all the little verification things on those gift cards. Do they have to send the gift cards or they get you to send a picture of the yeah you can probably just give them the number I imagine. I'd be interested to see like some kind of like a sneakers-esque look at these scammers all working in conjunction with one another, get their headsets and stuff and see their whole setup and everything, that would be kind of fun, right? Yeah, like a, what was that, what was that movie from the 90s with like a Ben Affleck in it,

like, the boiler room or something? It was like an underground, like a shoddy stock trading. Yeah, with a Giovanni, I'm a that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, they.. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, yeah Giovanni Yvesi I think was in that one. Oh yeah, baby Giovanni. Maybe even a Casey Affleck. Did you hear... Anyway, all I'm saying is, did you hear about the mic? There was a similar scan that I heard about recently involving iTunes gift cards. Did you hear about this one about Bruce Springsteen? Where there was a woman, I guess in Chicago, I'm just looking at this picture now, got a message from Bruce Springsteen on the internet. She was thrilled.

She couldn't believe it. She's a big fan. And I'm reading from this article here, the relationship grew and reportedly turned flirty. And Bruce apparently was said, you know, I'm about to divorce my wife. She's got all my bank accounts tied up, you know, you know what I really need some iTunes gift cards right now, even though I'm a, you know, a multi-millionaire celebrity. Mary from like Hoboken New Jersey really needs to help me out with some iTunes gift cards now and she obliged, sending him hundreds of dollars in gift cards.

Before he laid down the big con, he needed even more cash to get a stash of gold worth millions shipped out of Dubai. Oh yeah. Wow. Wow. Now you wrapped up in the international intrigue and the bus is sexy as gold. That's right, yeah. So she had to send him $11,500 so for his gold. The case of the lot, the case of

Lost Springsteen's gold, I guess. But so they get the gift cards because they can't like trace them or whatever right, but are they selling the gift cards on from there or something because they've got it like... Because it's not like they're just like like like like like like their like their like their like their like they're just like their they're just like their they're just like they're just like their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they're. they're. they're. they're they're. It's not. It's not they're their. It's not their. It's not their. It's not their. It's not their. It's their. It's. It's. It's their. It's. It's their. It's. It's their. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Itthey selling the gift cards on from there or something because they've got it like because it's not like they're just spending all their money like renting seasons of NCIS or whatever yeah I guess they sell them yeah sell them black market or something I don't know like you could even sell them for half price and be like he's a $500 dollar iTunes gift card for 250 and you're getting the cash. You're still up because it cost you nothing but your time talking to a 70-year-old lady who's never used a computer before in her life.

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Moving on folks I thought we might get into the territory of tweets that have made people very angry and something that we haven't thin. We haven't even we haven't even really commemorated this on the show yet but dear sweet Ben here he got a message from Twitter Australia a week or two ago saying hey you did the tweet this year from Australia that was retweeted the most times out of any tweet that was done in all of Australia. It's technically actually it was the tweet that was most retweeted by Australians. Oh, which because someone replied to my tweet being like, um, this is from Australia and mine had 700,000 or whatever and I was like, ah, I don't know. And then Twitter was like, oh, actually, it's, yeah, the, apparently the definition is quite specific. Well, I know it did, it did blow up because I actually, my mom mentioned that tweet to me

when I was talking about her on the phone a few months ago. Oh my God. I was like, right, now, so that went viral definitely. If she's seeing it, I don't know how it came to her, but she's actually. market largely. That's my target audience. So this tweet was was from Ben and it said I love little cultural differences like how Americans are super offended by the word cunt but here in Australia was super offended by school children being slaughtered with automatic weapons. And this of course made some Americans very mad because it turns out they're not automatic weapons.

They're actually saying, I'll have you know. We don't mind the children. because it turns out they're not automatic weapons, they're actually saying, I'll have you know, we don't mind the children being killed, but we're very pedantic about the terminology. Doesn't AR stand for assault rifle? Well, that's what you're absolutely right. Yeah, it does. I don't see how they haven't realized this yet.

I mean, a lot of these people claim to be experts on firearms and it seems to be their whole hobby, they're a part of big part of their like, you know, lifestyles, but they get these basic facts wrong about what the guns are even called. I mean even like a cursory Google would let them know that the A stands for assault rifle, yeah, the R stands for automatic weapon. The one stands for the letter A which of course in turn is short for assault rifle and the five is just there for flare. Yeah. Facts only. True facts dated. So people got pretty mad with Ben about this one but you know that that's happened before. And as we all know, you can just mute, like the replies to a tweet. Which I did, instantly.

You can mute the notifications. Within 24 hours, I had muted that. I've also muted the tweet, tweet did about the tweet, because that also became a problem almost instantly. Now, so you've had a bit of experience with that, Ben. I think we've all probably had some level of experience with people getting mad at you for tweeting and then going, oh yeah, well I've put some effort into finding out where you live and that kind of thing.

But Rob's experience this year has kind of taken it to a whole other level. Yeah. I think it's pretty safe. It's been a weird and wild year in posting for me. Big 2018 of posting. Well, that's how it started with was a tweet about the AR stands for assault rifle. That's how the whole, the whole process began with that. And a seemingly innocuous tweet to a conservative, perfectly true statement.

To conservative commentator, Joe Walsh, started a whole, yeah, the thing, he would, this is right around the time of the, the Parkland School shooting, and I believe there was some hunting goods store that said, okay, we're not going to stock the AR-15 assault rifle anymore or something like that. And, you know, he was, you know, mad about that, of course, because this is all these people really care about. And, you know, I just, I enjoy just kind of bugging these people and annoying them.

And I think I had read something about the whole... the gun terminology thing, I thing, I thing, I thing, I thing, I thing, I thing, I thinin, I thin, I thin, I thi thi thi thi thi thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I that, I that, I thi, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I th. I th. I thi, I th. I thi, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, I th. And, I the, I the, I the, I the, the, I the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the an thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, them. And I think I had read something about the whole gun terminology thing, how that seems to really like get under these people's skin. So I just said, yeah, the AR and AR-15 stands for assault rifle. And I ended up getting about 10,000 replies from various interesting people, all walks of life, telling me to, you know, kill myself and all kinds of stuff. It heard from all kinds of different people on that one. All kinds of colorful folks. Colorful personalities.

But I feel like where it really kicked into a high gear with Rob was was more around when Donald Trump, you're illustrious president. Not mine. He, well look you know you're connected to the same, well Lucy's president if we're going to get taken. Well and honestly like the president the president of the United States is basically the president of the western world. I mean, let's, let's,. Well, Lucy's president if we're going to get taken. Well, and honestly, like, the president of the United States is basically the president of the Western world. I mean, let's go. Everybody, at the very least, we've all got to hear about it.

Yeah, exactly. That's the problem. So Trump was sort of referring to all refugees and asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants as animals, which sort of, you know, obviously queued up a lot of people to say, hey, this sure sounds like that classic dehumanization that we all love that goes hand in hand with fascism. Great stuff, and that led to the administration claiming, no, no, no, no, no. He wasn't referring to just any old undocumented immigrants. He was referring to MS-13, notorious, scary gang and cartel MS-13.

Who none of these like Fox News people had heard of, you know, prior to like, you know, eight months ago or whatever it was. But all of a sudden it became a threat number one. Yeah. that's an existential threat. thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, thu, thi, and tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thuuuui tho, tho, to like, you know, eight months ago or whatever it was. But all of a sudden it became a threat number one. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. To American freedom. And that led to Rob doing a tweet. And Rob tweeted, I would rather my daughter dated a member of MS-13 than a member

of the Republican Party. Which, which I think now, look, call me crazy, but I think we can all kind of take this on face value as a disingenuous joke tweet. Sure. Well, I mean, I would rather have my, I don't have a daughter, but... I don't want to say that I would like my daughter to date a member of a drug gang, but I definitely wouldn't want her dating a Republican either if I did have one.

That's... So it is a joke. I mean like a quote-unquote joke, but maybe it all of a truth. Well yeah, it doesn't have to be like an either or type of, you know. You can't just want it to not date either of them. And of course you don't want to just to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to date to date to date to date to date a to date a to date a to date a to date a to date a to date a to date a to date a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to date.ea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.eathea.a.a. toea it to not date either of it. Yeah. And of course you don't want it to to grow up to marry the dreaded Republican who is also a member of MS 13. That's the worst. Yeah. That's the worst one you can be. So this one this one kind of kind of set the world on fire from the perspective of I think a thing that we've probably talked about on here before which is just the whole very disingenuous act of. I. I I I yeah, conservatives very deliberately just turning off the part of their brain that can pass something for like sarcasm or being intended as a joke or something that very clearly is not true or real or anything like that. They love it. For the purposes of getting really mad.

Yeah, and ironically, these are the same people that are just constantly accusing people on the left of being, you know, sensitive, sensitive snowflakes, you know, just searching for things to be offended by all the time. These are what they say. Yeah, exactly, the phony outrage. Yet they seem to be extremely just looking to get mad at anything at any given time. And when I did this tweet, I mean, it's, you know, I didn't think it was that, you know, it's fairly innocuous.

I don't think it was anything that outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous outrageous that outrageous that outrageous that outrageous that anything that outrageous that any other kind of like kind of online leftist shit poster wasn't saying similar. So it was kind of odd to me that it took on that life that it did and it took over a whole like, it was like a holiday weekend, it took over a whole like Republican conservative media news cycle. It was really stunning to me. It's very similar in that sense to the classic Randy tweet during the election election election election election election the election the election the election the election the election the election.. of of of of of... I of. I of. I of. I of. I of. I of. I of. I of. I of of of. I of thi of. I of. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi It's very similar in that sense to the classic Randy tweet during the election of I Love Working at the Post Office and tearing up all of the mail-in ballots for Republican candidates you know and that was another one where they just like yeah just just on its face a patently false statement

like just very clear it's just not a real thing. And you know, if you're concerned, very easy to verify, too. Like, to take a 30-second glance at the profile of the person that's saying it, like, yeah, OK, I don't think this person actually does work at the post office. Any normal human being would come to that conclusion, but. But here's the other similarity about that, it's really funny to me. So there were people who were like, oh, turns out, he doesn't work at the post office. He was lying about that.

Like, that's, you're layering on additional offense. As opposed to, like, you know, we were completely duke and took this obvious joke as a as a factual statement. It's like, well not only did he claim to rip these things up, but he also lied about working in a post office. And people had that about your thing where they were like, and it turns out doesn't even have the door. Well, that's the thing that that whole experience taught me is that these kind of like these conservatives they really don't have any conception, the kind of kind of kind of kind the is but like what a joke is like what you know using hyperbole to like make a lot a broader point about something these things are just like completely like in like unparsable to them and yeah no you're right though that they traffic is like things that you think might be the format of a joke but they interpret as true stories.

Like every conservative share thing is like one day a conservative lecturer was, you know, like the marine tong style stories or whatever. Yeah. Where they're written as if it's in the form of a joke or a parable, right? Where it's clearly not intended to be real, but all the comments, but all the comments, but all the comments, but all the comments, but all the comments, but all, but all, the comments, the comments, the comments, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, th thi, thi, they, they, they, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th, th. th. they, they, th. they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, they they they they they. thee. the. they. to be real, but all the comments are like, I can't believe this happened. Yeah. Like, that's the thing that they trafficked, that the conception of like making something up to prove a point. Using metaphorical language is just not, it doesn't register. Yeah, and it was just so, it was so absurd to, because this got picked up by Fox Fox and Friends. I had

fucking Brian Kilmeade on Fox and Friends talking about me. And yeah, you're right, he's explaining the segment and he's like, no, this man says that his daughter, who he does not actually have would rather date and he's like, but you're just, why are you upset? Which part are you mad about? Like, yeah, what, but you're just, why are you upset? It's like, which party are you mad about? Which part are you mad about? Like, yeah, I completely agree. I don't, I don't think that you can simultaneously be claiming a fence at, at a father saying that he wants his, he would rather his daughter date a gang member

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more than this guy did. That's why I appreciated so much. I actually ended up texting the guy that wrote this piece after and I was like, you know what, your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your entire your entire your theing the guy that wrote this piece after and I was like, you know what, your entire organization is just pure garbage but you seem okay, man. The flamboyant writer believed to be from Montreal has posted several messages that mock people who have taken him seriously. The Chud's are mad at me again, Rousseau wrote. Please say they have a parenthetical explaining what Chud is. They have not gotten into Chad terminology.

Brutal. Oh, my goodness. It's just truly... Flamboyant. Yeah, well, I wonder what that's referred to. Yeah, well, also my Twitter picture at that point was me with my cat too, so I think they were definitely trying to infer, infer something from that, which I didn't really pick up on at the time, I didn't really get why they'd said that, and someone kind of mentioned it to me, and I said, oh, I don't

see what you're doing there, you fucker. Yeah, their copy desk was like, ah, you got another word we can use here instead of fact. It's, oh, yeah. So, uh, what, this, I mean, all, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I see, I see, I see, I see, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see. see. I don't see, I don't see, I don't, I see. I see what, I see what, I mean, all of this led to what is probably one of my favorite online exchanges of all time. Yeah. And I thank Rob for this. Rob got a message via Facebook.

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And they've replied, okay, I'm sorry, have a nice one. Yeah. I just love that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th.. Yeah. I just love, I love that that's like, that's your pin tweet under your own account. It's just, hey, are you the rubber, sir, the post of this? No? No. All right. Don't tell us that we can't resolve our differences online with some, just a healthy exchange of ideas. It can be done. No, but I was getting hundreds and hundreds of messages at that time from stuff like that and you

know at a certain point you just have to start messing with them sometimes and there's some pretty funny results. I ended up getting a bunch of voicemails as well because I I while all this was going on I posted the number for your Kickstarter Sucks podcast. Oh yes. And it was, like I put it in my bio and they got dozens of really intense voicemails from old people that are just like haven't talked to their grandkids in years. Well, at least I made for them it's a break from drunk people calling in and telling

them to kill themselves. So, they probably welcomed it. Yeah, yeah. Have you guys seen the little compilation that Mike from YKS put up and it was, what was the, it was the restaurant, the like little red pen or something restaurant that like kicked out Sarah Sanders? Yeah, that was from one of my tweets as well. Ah, there you go, and you were like, I run, I run this restaurant, you know, called, this

is the phone number or whatever. Well, that's it, like, once this, because like anytime conservatives are like, are just up in arms about some minor slight that they have, you know, that feeds into their, their constant pathological victimization complex, I like to just kind of say like, needle them a little bit and be like, oh yeah, that's me doing that. And like, the more I do it, the more I do it, the more ridiculous it is that it has that same result. But yeah, that was another tweet I did where I said they were just losing their minds that she was like politely asked to leave some restaurants while the Trump administration's like throwing children in concentration camps. But of course their priority is the restaurant thing. So I said, yeah, my uncle. You got to see it by both of those things are really egregious and awful. But yes I did a tweak where I said oh yeah my uncle actually owns a

red-hand franchise and he's he told me that when he drops chicken on the ground he puts it in a special bucket and serves it to Trump supporters when they come in and then another friend of mine Cross posted that into like a Bill O'Reilly fan page on Facebook group with the YKS number as well. So then that led to a, that compilation that you're talking about where Mike talked to a bunch of these people, Michael, is really one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my entire life.

Oh, absolutely. I'm going to put the link to that video into the notes for this episode because like yeah, Michael was saying on one of their episodes that he likes, like the, that goes through and like rings through, he can just pick it up on his phone. And he's like, yeah, sometimes I just like to answer the calls and he records them of like somebody just angrily, you know, angrily making this insane statement about, you know, that. You think you can do this to people just based on politics? You think you can serve people chicken off the floor? Why don't I come down there and kick your ass and they go on for like two minutes straight

and then there's just like this little pause and he goes, so do you want to book a table or? Just completely dry. It's extremely good. He's incredibly good at dealing with those people. And yeah, there's one of those calls, it goes on for like seven minutes of this guy going like, I'm going to go down first thing in the morning. I'm going to call the Indiana Board of Health. I'm going to make sure that you never said, he's just like, just like, he's getting

really worked up, you can tell, like, really like excited about it. And um... Imagine how red the face is gone. Yeah, you know? Although, I don't know if, like, as a cultural thing, it's very strange because like, as we said, you know, the, it is the constant sort of casting of anybody progressive as just wanting to get outraged about things. And, you know, let's, let's, let's, let's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi's, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, like, like, like, th. Like, like, th. Like, like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, the. the. the. the. th. th. th. things. And, you know, let's not all get mistaken. Of course, there is a big strain of that in leftism and progressivism.

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or somebody who like, you know, wants to... We had a long and ridiculous exchange with somebody online this week who was insisting that Australian's using like Australian slang, like saying Struth or Kriki or whatever, is mocking poor people because you despise it. I didn't think it was mocking them. I thought it was just that we were trying to seem poor when we were all apparently like mega rich private school kids or something. Oh it's that too, but I think the student's main point was that he was saying it's people who

don't come from that kind of background using it to mock people who do come from that background because they actually hate those people. And again it was just like a little a little a little a little a little the little little little little the little little little little little little little the little the little the little the little th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I thi. It's like th. It's like th. It's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like th th th. th. th. th. th. Like, like th. Like, like th. Like, like, like, like th. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, thi. thi. A thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. actually hate those people. And again, it was just one of these things. Sounds like a little projection possibly. Just a little bit. Yep. And it just went on and on. And again, the whole thing was just like, yeah, I hate to tell you man, but like this this is the kind of shit that makes people hate people who go too hard into this stuff.

Like, yes, let's all get on board with like not doing like casual racism and homophobia and transphobia. And we're all as a collective trying to work through like modifying our language over time and everything. Because if you're a certain age, you kind of grew up with a certain acceptable parameters about language that's changed over time, which is good and normal, but it does take some people longer than others to adjust to sort of the new paradigm. It does.

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Well, yeah, I mean, like that that stuff is obviously on a whole another planet, the whole kind of like, oh, well, if that's what you want to happen, then why don't I just do it? It's like, well, that's extremely weird. Yeah. But I wonder about the, yeah, like the calling up the voicemail and leaving long angry things. I wonder for how many of those people this is more functioning as the kind of like yelling at a fast food worker to release some kind of stress and...yeah, when the rest of your life sucks very badly. Yeah, I think part of it, especially when I get all these people messaging me, I think part of it, I think especially when I get all these people messaging me, I think part of it with some of these people is legitimately just like trying to reach out

to make a connection with somebody, you know? You have nothing going on. They're so like poisoned by like right-wing memes and conspiracy theories that their entire family can't stand them. Yeah, exactly. Oh, those groups, when you see those like screen their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.'t they they they they they they they they they they they they they don't they don't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the thu the the the thu the the the the the the th families, you know? They're damn leftist grandkids, they've ruined everything. Just because they don't want to hear that Donald Trump is actually a super secret agent infiltrating the global elite pedophile rings. And he's only pretending to be a massive, fucking dunce, actually. Just because of that. You know. It's just the truth. I just can't handle the truth.

They can't handle the truth. They can't handle the truth that Donald Trump is a deep, deep cover. He has to wear, how do you think he feels the sacrifice he's making for his country? Yeah. Having to wear like a nutty professor clumps fat suit to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work their their their their to work every single day. And every night when he's out there assassinating globalist pedophiles, he takes that whole thing off and he's ripped like the Ben Garrison cartoons underneath, goes out and does his thing, comes back home in the morning. Exactly.

Kisses Sleeping Baron on the forehead. It's not fair when you think about it. Well some people are making the sacrifices. What's Baron up to? It's Baron been doing this whole time. Just game. It's playing Fortnite. Just playing Fortnite. Fort the Kingdom Hearts, yeah.

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that are really like immersed in this right-wing ecosystem, media ecosystem, just 24 hours a day. And just kind of prompt them, are you actually thinking about any of this at all while it's happening? And like you said, the fact that you've been able to do it a handful of times, and like, from, it's not like you like you like you like you like you like you like you like you like you like you like you like you like, it's not like you's not like you's not like you're like you're like you're like you're like, it's not like you're like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like, in like, in th like, in th like, in th like, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in th.......... th. th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, in thi, in thi, in thi, in thi. thin, in, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, in, in, fact that you've been able to do it a handful of times, and like from, it's not like you're setting up new accounts and trying to make them look conservative or anything like that, they're all from the same account with the same name. With the same pin tweet that you described. Just right there for anyone to see. Yep. But the parallel to me with this in the Australian news cycles over the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last th.. th. th.. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's to to to to to to thi. It's to to to thi. thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it, it's thi, it, it, it's thi. thi. thi. It's th. It's th. It's, it's, it's, it's, th. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's thi. It's not, thi. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, to me with this in the Australian news cycles over the

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And it's very similar in the sense of, it's this thing that just captivates and drives conservative media here. And it's also something that just seems to affect almost nobody's lives. Yeah. Well, that's it. And that's kind of the point I was trying to make with that statement too, is just that you know, it's not, when I do a tweet like that, it's not saying MS-13 is good, even though that's what most conservatives that got mad to me not fucking MS-13 that's steering us toward a climate crisis that's going to kill millions of people.

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on someone who wants to buy a gun or ban a bump stock. Yeah. But, yeah, very, very similar thing here where we had the, at the time, Minister for to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the to the the the to the the the the the the thi-a, thi-a, thi-mine, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, their, thin, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin, thin, very similar thing here where we had the at the time Minister for Immigration-making statements. So there's a whole thing here where there's, I imagine it's kind of similar in other countries anyway, but where we have our state and federal government and there's generally meant to be kind of a, you know, federal governments should sort of not be interfering too much in state government as in making statements about things or acting like, I guess acting like in either direction,

that the outcome of an election, for example, will have some sort of, you know, particularly big impact on the other. And so the federal minister for immigration at the time, Peter Dutton made a statement that people in Melbourne, one of our largest capital cities, people in Melbourne are afraid to go out to eat in the city. They're afraid to go out to restaurants because the city is so overrun with these African gangs. And it was one of those comments that was just immediately greeted with like just statewide derision from people

who are like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like it's just so far from the reality of living there. Well, and it's a kind of thing too where- As to be completely absurd. It's the kind of thing too where I'm sure there are conservatives, and especially older people that are afraid to go outside because of their fear of gangs and things, that's not because there's a gang problem, it's a conservative media problem. There's whose is industry that's whose whole purpose, whose

express purpose is terrifying older people of the idea of, as you said, any, two or more people of color that have to be standing around on a street corner at any time, and making them think that their country is under invasion by kind of foreign interlopers, and that their precious rights and freedoms are going to be snatched away at any time by these get and like this this is what the problem is and so when these people say yeah well people are afraid to leave their houses it's like well no shit it's because they listen to conservative media all day well um there's there's been some news stories lately actually out of of Victoria about for example there's there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's th th is th is th is thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi thi out of Victoria about, for example, there's

like a league of like Somali Australian, like a Somali Australian youth basketball league and they have to put an announcement out saying we can't, we can't hold our basketball finals this year. Like we can't have the finals of our tournament because nowhere in the state will rent a stadium, like an arena, like a court to us to play on. And also this, like the other reporting about, you know, lots of people like Somali descent, finding it really hard to find jobs, because they can't get interviews,

or they get turned away straight away. And yeah, it's almost like all of this constant demonization of people from a specific background actually has some kind of effect on people's lives. Well, and it's a it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy too, because it's like, it's not that violent or that gangs don't exist, but how is it that these young people get sucked into these kind of situations? Part of it is because they don't, there's no like healthy outlet for them to spend their time or to do things like participate in basketball tournaments. And the more they're demonized and the more these kind of avenues are cut off, the more attractive I imagine that kind of a lifestyle is.

Well, that's what I always think about like any time that there are, you know, things that again, it's often the conservative media are always obsessed with like enclaves of immigrants and areas where a lot of people speak the, you know, any time that people speak the, you know, anytime that people speak the language of the region that they are from like out on the street, it's this horrifying affront to people. Like it's this massive, it's this massive blow to their freedom that they can't eavesdrop on strangers in the street or some shit. You know, it's very confronting to them. And yeah, you always sort of think to yourself like, so do you think thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's that's thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, thi, thi, it thi, thi, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's very that's very thi, thi. you always sort of think to yourself like so do you think it makes people like any more likely to sort of you know like

assimilate into the community or whatever when you're constantly like pointing fingers and talking about how they're outsiders and they make you uncomfortable and you don't want them there and all that sort of shit. Is it any kind of surprise that people withdraw further into these communities if they're constantly being told by the news and the people around them like, oh we wish they weren't here, it makes us all uncomfortable and all this kind of shit? Like there was an election in Victoria recently and thankfully the conservatives got absolutely destroyed but I do remember in the election coverage they were

talking to a candidate from the conservatives the liberal party and and yeah they said to him oh so you know what have people have been saying when you been campaigning and stuff and do you think your let's get tough, law and order, you know, messaging is cutting through? And he said, oh, look, you know, when I'm campaigning and when I'm door knocking, and an old person shakes my hand and they say, I'm scared to leave my house at night, whenever I hear a noise, I think it's someone breaking in, It's like, that's, so nothing has actually happened to these people. They're just petrified now.

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It's Matt Brady's Apex gang, come to get you. Well, that's it. I mean, anytime you kind of interrogate any of these people about like, you know, these people that are so, they made their whole life's goal........ their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their threat. And it's like, have you ever actually not even had a negative interaction with a Muslim person, but have you ever even actually talked to one? Any interaction? Yeah. Most of the time the answer is no. And they're basing their entire worldview based on this distorted, through this distorted media lens. And I think that's one of the scary things about America right now is that it's not just the rubes that are like this

now it's the people in the Republican Party like they're actually holding positions of power it's fucking Donald Trump himself he's the one that he's getting his information completely from this conservative media ecosystem well yeah I think my general theory on that is like the the louder a group is about something that they think you know that another group that they thi th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi thi thi thi the th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi louder a group is about something that they think, you know, another group that they think is a threat or a population or an ethnicity or whatever they think is a threat. The louder and more scared they are about it, the higher the likelihood that they have absolutely zero interaction with those people in their life. It makes me think of the whole thing here in a town called Bendigo, where's Bindicoh???? New? New? New? New, New, New, New, New, in the their, in their, New, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in their, in their, in tho, in thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thee the the the the the the the the the the the, thi, thi, thi in their life. It makes me think of the whole thing here in a town called Bendigo, where's Bendigo, New South Wales or? Victoria. Victoria? Yeah, just a town called

Bendigo and you know the local Muslim community said we're going to build a mosque because we would like a place to worship. And yeah and just this whole segment of that community just dedicated their whole existence to making sure that they would never get like the planning permission or anything to build a mosque and about how scary it is and they don't want their community turning into Sharia law and all this kind of thing. It's all like because some people wanted to have a church in the place they live. That's how they get you though. The next day it's Sharia law and Bendigo. Yeah. It's how they get you, they suck you in? We actually had an incident here in Toronto a few months ago where there's a hotel in Toronto that's been housing a lot of the refugees,

mostly from Syria, mostly from Syria. And so conservatives, first of all, some like, just pure white nationalist conspiracy theorists started to like talk about this online. And I think one, a couple of them went over there, one day is this random hotel, you know, with their phones kind of like filming people, the scary refugees. And basically, people started reviewing the hotel online, being like, it's disgusting and it's feeling, and leaving negative reviews for the hotel.

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was going on or maybe go go down there. Go and have a look around. Yeah but so so they posted this piece in Sun News saying oh yeah there are they possibly slaughtering goats who's to say and then someone tried to fucking down this hotel they they very nearly succeeded in burning down this hotel and they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they're they're they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to ttttry try try try try to try to try to to try try to to try to to to to to to to to to to this hotel and the people that worked there thankfully were able to to contain it. And you know it's like and there's no cut of course there's no blowback, there's no consequences, no one asked to even fucking apologize for it or whatever and it's it's extremely dangerous as we're seeing the kind of the rise of the far right and the anti immigrant right and how anti-immigrant right, and how these big media companies are able to stoke these flames,

and just, it's so dangerous, it has these real-world consequences. Like we saw, you know, in Quebec, which is also near where I live, there was a shooting at a mosque here, the weekend of the sort of Muslim ban when Trump was first inaugurated, and that guy was heavily in, like, full on into that conservative media ecosystem, Ben Shapiro and Info Wars and all that shit. And, um, yeah, of course there was a synagogue shooting in America the other day, which was really based about this migrant caravan and Jewish groups, resettling refugees and things like that.

These things are, they start in the sort of like darkest corners of the right-wing internet, they filter up to right-wing media, and they're like getting broadcast out to all kinds of extremely unstable people, and it's getting people killed. And no one seems to be willing this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a getting people killed and no one seems to be willing to like talk about this like it's a serious problem in society it's pretty it's it's odd to me that it doesn't get brought up more well i think part of the issue with the whole thing is is that a huge slice of what they spend all their time being freaked out about

is the idea of conservatives being censored in the media. So, you know, they're just constantly freaking out about being censored on Twitter, like all the people on Twitter who are convinced that like they've been shadow band and no one can see their posts and all that kind of shit. But also, yeah, all this idea of, you know, oh, if you express a conservative opinion, you'll get fired, and if you say conservative stuff online, you get banned from all these services,

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actually doing anything about it? Yeah, well that's... like if somebody were to say, like imagine, alright, imagine if, like, whatever parent company is actually funneling the money through to the daily wire or whatever Ben Shapiro's new services. If that person said, look, there has been five mass shootings or like 10 incidents of domestic terror in the last however long, and every one of these people has been a fervent Ben Shapiro fan where we've determined that this is just dangerous shit that you're putting out and we're going to cancel your show.

People would freak the fuck out about the idea of, oh they're pinning this stuff on him and they're silencing conservatives, this is how it begins. First they came for the conservative yeah nothing because I wanted them to shut the yeah yeah it's a wild world we're living in well that is another that's another I did I've I've encountered a lot of these people too from other tweets that I've done because a few months back they read it shut down the Q&on subreddit and that was another tweet I did where I was just it just extremely lazy thi th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm th. I've th. I've th. I've thi. I've thi. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've the th. I've they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. I'm th. I'm th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've thi. I've thi. I've th. I've the. I've the. I've the. I've th. I've the. I've the. I've the Q-in-on subreddit. And that was another tweet I did where I was just, it's just extremely lazy, not really

even making any effort whatsoever. I was just like, oh yeah, I work for Reddit and I did that because they were getting too close to the truth. And that again, like, all kinds of, all kinds of people got kind of up in arms over that and kind of saw it as some kind of evidence that their their conspiracy was actually true as despite again as you said like if you take five seconds to look at my Twitter page like I think this guy might be a bit of a prankster but they don't really uh or maybe if you were to ask yourself, oh if this guy did actually have a bunch of secret information about the validity of the Q and on conspiracy theory, it's pretty strange that he would

just say that to his tens of thousands of followers on a public platform, like doing a bad job of keeping the secrets. Yeah, but they don't seem to ask themselves these questions. It's just like the immediate, they take a look, and that's the extent of that they spend thinking about it. It's just, you know, this confirm. And that's kind of the thing that I've realized about doing these kind of tweets, is that it doesn't really matter how absurd it is or how obvious it is that it's a joke, because as long as it confirms what they already believe, they'll go with it. That's all they need, you know, and it's really weird and strange that it can continues to kind of

happen, but that's it. As long as it confirms this kind of thing that they already have in their head, that's the extent that they're going to spend, you know, interrogating it. Just mentally vetting anything. I completely agree that that's the part that is most remarkable to me, is like, like, you know, every now and then I'll, like, like, retweet something or, there's a thing that a couple of Australian guys are doing a lot these days which is like a wife of the show Pat loves to see what's going on in like Australian politics at the moment like maybe there's there's going to be another challenge to the sitting

prime minister or whatever and he will dig back to be another challenge to the sitting Prime Minister or whatever. And he will dig back through like different news organizations tweets and he'll retweet an old thing that's like, oh, cabinet's just gone into the party room to discuss a leadership spill, breaking news. And so people see that in the context of what's happening now and it's very easy to just... It gets me. It gets me every time. If you quite tweet it you don't get the time stamp on it so you just see the text. Yeah. This is huge. And um exactly so both Pat Caruana and Matt Burke have got me several times with this. And and like, you know,

because sometimes there's there's stuff going on, there's news happening, and you see a thing and you go, whoa, that's what we all wanted to happen. Yeah. And you click the retweet button or whatever without thinking about it too much, right? But I at least have the decency in good sense to go, oh that's embarrassing when I realize I've thiiiii thi I've thi I've thi I've thi I've thi I've thi I've thi I've thi I've thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that I've that I've that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's that's th. that's th. th. I've th. I've th. thi. the the the the the the the the the the theat theat theat theat to to theat theat to theat that's that's thi. I that's the decency in good sense to go, oh, that's embarrassing when I realize I've been had. I will either, I'll un re-tweet the thing or someone will say to me, oh, that's a parody account and I go, whoops, I got got, there seems to be absolutely no ability or desire to have that follow-up on any of this stuff with

conservative things. It is purely just the like like the extent to which I mean obviously everybody has their own confirmation bias to whatever extent about different things but in this specific realm of like the conservative media or outrage stuff it is just turned up to such an extreme that like you're saying it's literally just, if I have briefly scanned this thing and it either aligns with a thing that I want to be true or a thing that I want to be mad about, that's it. Yeah. I'm posting about it and I will never try to to thi to to to to to to that, and I to that, and I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to to that that that to to to to to to to to that that that the that that their their their their their thu their their their their their thu thu thu thu thi thi thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to that to to to to to to that to that that that that that that that I want to be true or a thing that I want to be mad about. That's it. Yeah.

I'm posting about it and I will never come back to interrogate. Definitely the closest that I ever get is to any kind of like a, not a mea culpa, but like, is I'll get someone that'll be like, well, hold on now. I think this guy might be joking, but it still confirms this thing that I already believe because lots of people do do this thing, even if this guy happens to be joking about it. Like I got a lot of that on, like I did, right before the midterm elections, I did a tweet about how I was, um, I had a bunch of US social security numbers and I was voting for Beto Rourke in Texas Doing voter fraud and I got a lot of that that so that and that ended up getting posted on 4chan

And then made its way to info wars for an info war segment, and I had a lot of those there was a bunch of those like, no, I don't think this guy is real, but that doesn't mean that vote or fraud doesn't exist and is rampant in fact this this this this this this this this this this confirms thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. This thi. This thi. This thi. This thi. This thi. This thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. thi. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. to. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to.this guy is real, but that doesn't mean that voter fraud doesn't exist and is rampant. In fact, this confirms that it does because people do do this thing, even if this guy happens to be joking about it. That's the closest that I ever got to people being like, nah, that's not true. Just proves that that's what you'd like to be doing. I would be doing voter fraud if not for the efforts of, again, suave Debener Secret Agent, Donald Trump, famously coherent and KG, intelligent person who is surely able to, you know, put a stop to these kind of things. And as he said before, he should be able to sort it all out within one term, so he doesn't even need to run it.

Which is good, good news. Well, um, we, look, we haven't had much of a chance to talk about this between us, but I think I can speak for the rest of the show. When I say, we hope you don't get murdered by an insane Q&on conspiracy. I wish you no harm. Yeah, well, listen, we have pretty strict gun laws here. Most of the people that get mad at me are Americans. And you know, even though, even with that MS-13, I did get a tweet, I did get a number of people kind of, um, the, the, the, th....... th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I, to th. I, their, their, their, their, their, today, tell, the tell, the tell, their, tell, their, to to to to to to to to their, though, even with that MS-13, I did get a tweet, I did get a number of people kind of either overtly or subtly, you know, threatening my life. But, even not that that's pleasant or anything, but I never really believe that, you know, none of these people are actually like going to go through the effort of, I mean, these people are, a lot of these guys have to go in, to go in, to go in, to go in, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th of these people are actually going to go through the effort of, I mean, these

people, a lot of these guys have to go into those little scooters at Wal-Mart, you know, they're not going to go out and try and fly. It's true. It is a lot more effort than tweeting, to be fair. So that will probably just about do us for this week. Rob, where can people find you on the internet? You can find me on Twitter.com at Rob Rousseau. I also host a podcast as well. It's called 49th Parahel. You can find that on SoundCloud, iTunes, all that, all the podcasting apps. And that's where you can find me. Well we will post up some links in there

so you guys can find and get a hold of Rob's show. Yeah well honestly when I started my show I was I think I was influenced by this show to a certain extent too because what I what I think is cool about this show that you guys do sometimes is kind of like talk about some more radical or subversive ideas but in a very like non-threatening way in a very kind like, threaten of like, threaten of like, th-like, th-like, th-like, thi of like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thin of thin of thin, thin, thin thin thin thin thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin-up, thin-up, thin-up thin-up thin-up, thin-in-in-in-in-in-in thin thin thin thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, kind of like, talk about some more radical or subversive ideas, but in a very like non-threatening way, in a very kind of like, you know, morning show, fun way. Like, I really like chap-trappo trap house,

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issues but we don't really know anything about them. And that's definitely an affectation on our part. Yes, for sure. It's deliberate. Yeah. It's studied affectation. Oh dear. Ben. Ben, hey. Would you like to, you've been very quiet. So would you like to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to leave us to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toa.a.a. Wea. Wea to to to to to to to to to to you like to, you've been very quiet, so would you like to leave us with a patented Ben's thought for the week? I would also just like to clarify that I've been very quiet because I've kept having to mute the microphone because we're looking after a friend's dog at the moment and she is huge and she is causing absolute chaos. So it's not for lack of desire, it's more open on dog control.

What breed of dog is that? She is a Weimaraner. And she is just all limb. She's more limb than anything else. Wonderful, wonderful dog. Friends of the show might know her from George's Twitter constantly. Mawed, the big welcome dog from Brisbane's own wandering cooks. Okay yeah crime pass though. No. It's okay to willfully mislead

conservatives up to the point that even fraud fraud is fine. This is the only scam that I will legally endorse you've've got a crime pass. As long as you can demonstrate that the person is conservative, anything goes. Yeah. I think that's pretty fair. If you can demonstrate that they're conservative, you get to keep all the iTunes gift cards that you can get a hold. Don't spend them all at once. You gotta work your way through. What you don't want to do is make their, their, their, their, th. their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, that, thr-I, thr-I, thin, thrown, that, that, that, that, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I is, th. I is, th. I is, th. I is, th. I is, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I th. I the, the, the, the, thr-I. If, thr. If, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, thr-I. And, thr-I. And, thr-I. And, thin. And, the. And,'t want to do, right? What you don't want to do is make the rookie mistake of redeeming all of your iTunes gift cards at once, and then renting all of the seasons of NCIS at once, right? Because you don't, like, you might not have enough time to get through the one for the rentals expire. Sure. That's true. Yeah, so what you want to do is you want to watch the first season of NCIS with your first card and then once you've done, that's when you redeem the second card. Absolutely.

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So have fun. So, as always, you can find an extra episode of the show every week over on Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash Buntavista. Only five American dollars a month. It's a bargain. What else you're doing with that money? You're giving it to somebody who's calling you up about how you owe the ATO cash, and you're going to get arrested.

No. And we've helped you out with that. So, why not pay it forward, you know? This is what yeah for sure. That's what pay it forwards is. Yep. Pretty sure that's what as far as I know that's absolutely true. I do you a good turn and then you do it back to me. Pay it forwards. That's right. Yep. Well my only remembrance of that is watching the movie, pay it forward. Which is about this exact scenario. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. Yeah. that. that. that. that. that. that. Yeah. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that of that is watching the movie Pay It Forward. Which is about this exact scenario. Yeah, and Haley, Joel Osmond helped somebody else, and then they help him back. So I think I've got it under control. Rob, thanks very much for having me.

It was a pleasure to be here. Well, please do check out Rob on 49th Parahillel and we will see you next week. Bye. Bye. Goodbye you the