Boonta Vista - EPISODE 85: Boomerpocalypse Now

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Join Andrew, Lucy & Theo for a romp through the week's new in Nazi senators, dodgy public inquiries and what's wrong with the kids of today. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by s...ubscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Portagista. I am Andrew. It's a Saturday night. You might be listening to this on a different day, but it's a Saturday night. It's been a big day. But I'm here with my friends. Lucy. Hello. Good day. Good day. Good evening. It's been a big day. But I'm here with my friends. Lucy. Hello. Good day. Good evening. Good evening. And Theo. Man, it's a hot one. And so on. That's several, several inches from the midday sun. I think that's how it goes. It feels like less than that now. It sucks. I went out in the sun for like eight minutes from the car to the markets. Several minutes past your personal base. Yeah, and it has destroyed me.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I mean people are not supposed to be in the sun, especially not this sun. How how hot was it there today? It wasn't super hot, it's like 32 or something. Oh, it's bloody cold down here. The climate changed. I don't know if I believe in it. I know, I know. It was in the 20s and I said to my wife, I said, more like global cooling.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Am I right? Huh? Yeah? There's no way to know. Take that, everyone, dying in the climate apocalypse. Mm-hmm. Speaking of, apo-pocacacacapocapoca-a climate apocalypse. Mm-hmm. Speaking of apocly, apocalypses, there isn't it like a plural of apocalypse I don't know about, is there apocaly.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Apocalypsees? I will not be engaging in this one? I will not be using apocaly. Okay. There's also an emoji apocalypse happening. I understand that while things are really just popping off in the world of emoji, I should know. I should know. I've watched the emoji movie with my children.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Jesus. Yikes. Can't throw this out there? Not great. It deserved its single-digit rating from Rotten Tomatoes. It was a bad one. I feel like we've mentioned before that like, now when you look up a movie on the internet,
Starting point is 00:02:36 it will show you the critics ratings, like a rotten tomato or meta critic or whatever. It'll show you like, ooh, 25% from critics. But then it also has, next to that, the ratings of all just the good meat and potatoes, people like you and me. Yeah. All the regular old Google users who watched it and said, fucking four out of five. Like taking the temperature of a dumpster.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah. Whereas the emoji movie, that was like, oh, that's how you the, the, the emoji movie that was like flatlining on both of those counts and I was like, wow, you know, they messed up. So you know it's not going well. So you chose to show your kids a critically panned movie instead of like, I don't know, Tarkovsky's stalker? Yeah, we got a bit of a cap on the things that, uh, two girls under the edge of five will watch without getting freaked out, basically.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Like they're only just, like the older one is only just edging into like the sort of cartoon network area of stuff, like the Stephen Universe kind of thing. Right. We're only just of thing. Right. We're only just getting there. So it's got to be a while, I think, before I get to like show on them hell-raiser and shit like that. Speaking of blood, it's going to be a period emo-fogey, thiii. It's going to be a period emn't. It's going to look like a big old period on your keyboard.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Which is a big old smearer period, big old blood clot. Yep. We already had a red circle, but this one's going to look more blotchy. You know? That's what I need. That's what feminism needs. Thank you, Apple. But what's the other new one, Theo? So if you can imagine, do you know, do you know Get Smart, the TV show? Yes, yes. I have also watched the remake movie starring Steve Correll. I have seen that one.
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Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah, go for it. Please. Well, look, there's two ways that you can approach this sort of thing. People can either do like a attempt at a straight up remake of a thing, very straight-faced, or you can do a thing that's just like, hey, we've bought this property and also we're making fun of it, like, like say the Star Ski and Hutch movie. Have I been lost? I haven't seen that either.
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Starting point is 00:05:38 So, so he's... So there's something happened and it was a really close call and he's motioning and he's going missed it by that much. So if you imagine that the little dick emoji the thumb and the forefinger look where I'm not going to jump to conclusions about what this emoji can and can't be used for. It's obviously a reference the timely reference to this TV show from 1965. No. Well, well, well, well, it's something something. Well, it's something. Well, it. Well, it. Well, it, it, it, it happened. Well, it, it, it, it, it's something. Well, it, it, it's something. Well, it's something. Well, it's something. Well, it's something. Well, it's something. Well, it's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. that's something. that. that. It's something. It's something. that. that. that. that by, by something. It's by. It's by. It's by. It's by it by it by it by it by it by it by it by. It's by. It's by. It's by. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's it. It's that. It's that. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. It's something. the something. the something. the something. the something. that. It's something. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. It's something. It's something. the. It can't be used for. It's obviously a reference, the timely reference to this TV show from 1965. Theo is talking about. That was the first, that was just the way I could relate it, right?
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's the universal symbol of like, oh, it's a small amount of space. Oh, quite, yeah, a little thing. But of course, it has been immediately picked up by everybody to mean a small penis. Just thinking of all the times in my life that I would be using my fingers to motion for approximately one to two inches in any other scenario. Oh wow all the prawns that I got in this meal. Tiny. The prawns were about this big. Tiny... You're doing the measuring? The prawns were about this big. Trying to show your friends.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Oh, these were much more like... Hey, you know when you guys thinking yourself, what kind of prawns am I getting, am I getting like some big fresh ones right out of the ocean, or am I getting like the ones that you get out of thetakeaway fried rice. And there would have been a shortcut for that. If someone had said, what kind of prawns you got there and you could have just gone. It's just emoji dim.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Little, little prawns. Little one to two inch prawns. I understand some people were upset about this emotion. I think it's ignited both sides of the cultural war. Both the women who get unsolicited dick picks sent to them, you know, constantly as a result of being online. And I guess just the weirdest most cooked units like, and look, I don't know really, this isn't really important, but this just tickled me so much that I think
Starting point is 00:07:44 it's going to stick with me for probably months. Very weird culture unit, Bettina Aunt, who has done a whole bunch of stuff with Mark Latham. She's... She writes stuff for the Australian. Began to men's rights. And you know, we've got to hear it from the men's men's side and that that sort of thing you know and She posts Imagine how feminists would react if new emogies included a symbol of a roomy vagina
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Starting point is 00:09:12 They was going, ah, gross and they throw their phone. Get that big, get that big pussy away from me. Get that huge pussy out of here. That universal experience for all men of being bombarded with unsolicited nude images from women because of course it's exactly what both genders do. It's not just like... I'm closing my DMs. It's too dangerous. Pussypick after pussypick. Unsolicited pussypicks. Oh my good, hey speaking of pussies, how about these kids of today?
Starting point is 00:09:51 You know what I'm saying? Not sure. Mothu fucking kids of today. Hate him. So I saw a little piece. The Daily Telegraph. Okay, a big piece of shit the The Daily Telegraph. Okay, a big piece of shit, the Daily Telegraph. And they were running a front page article on this Saturday,
Starting point is 00:10:12 the old proverbial Slow Newsday. The Slow Newsday that they talk about in Proverbs all the time. And it's very cleverly titled, Why Kids Can't Jump, which I which I assume is a very clever play. Very on-time reference. Very topical reference to the 1992 sports film, White Men Can't Jump, starring Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson. Great movie if you haven't seen it. I haven't. It's really good. Or any other movie.
Starting point is 00:10:45 This is why kids can't jump okay. Why kids can't jump? So again, you know, obviously it's the first place your mind goes is nice, nice little reference to, um, white kids can't jump. All shirk and no play cuts children's physical ability. By, Clarissa, by, Ozzy kids are losing basic skills such as jumping, throwing a ball, and even running, because they are not getting the free playtime that was once considered ordinary. Alarming research revealed by the Saturday telegraph, meaning like somebody else's shit we saw and published. Lays bear the physical decline of today's kids compared with those of 30 years ago, with experts warning of long-term implications for their health.
Starting point is 00:11:42 A major study found children today can't jump as far as children were able to in 1985. How far kids have got to jump. All that census data on how far your child can jump. A major study found children today can't jump as far as children were able to in 1985 by an average of 16.4 centimeters. What if your child is forced to leap across a chasm filled with lava? They will not survive. Well, maybe if they're a kid from 1985.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I'm just imagining like... 16.4 centimeters bigger. One CSI, a scientist like calling the other one over, and they're like, they're seeing the measurements come up on the screen the the the the the the the the the the the the the the scientist like calling the other one over and they're like they're seeing the measurements come up on the screen and big like curves and graphs and stuff and they just both sadly shake their heads. My God. They're doing that like... What have we done? They're doing the whole like bursting into the Prime Minister's office like frazzled hair and dropping all their papers. You have to listen!
Starting point is 00:12:46 16.4 centimeters. Mr. Prime Minister, our kids can't jump because of socialism. They're weak. Is it because of socialism? How are we blaming SJWs for this? Or are we swinging this around to fortnight? Is this the fortnight generation? Let's see how we, who we blame this up? A separate report reveals kids have extremely low levels of quote mastery of outdoor activities such as throwing,
Starting point is 00:13:13 catching, leaping, and kicking with experts blaming a rise of screen time at the expense of free playtime. It's always screen time. The fucking screen. Like, this just got right up my ass. It jumped up my ass, if you know what I'm saying. Because it was just yet another of these examples of blaming some kind of change in like, you know, people's health or abilities or society, whatever. And it's always just on, because people don't let their kids play enough.
Starting point is 00:13:51 None of it is anything like, hey, I wonder if there is anything that has changed about society over the last 30 to 50 years that would affect the amount of time that you let your kids play outside for, or would affect how frequently you take your kids out, or would affect how often you take your kids fucking camping or anything like that. I wonder if maybe like work is more precarious now and everybody spends longer hours there and both parents work now. Yeah, and like a lot of kids have to go to daycare and after school care and before school care. And all these places where they are like legally obliged to keep you in a fucking room instead of saying, hey just play out in
Starting point is 00:14:38 the backyard or out in the park or whatever. Like, just all of this shit. I think it's probably because of angry birds. It's probably... It is Fort 9. It's Fortnite. It's Fortnite for me. And get one of these kids to fucking 1V1 me at Calla Judia. See who comes out on top.
Starting point is 00:14:57 One, one, one, one, one, the one, but like pong or paper boy or some shit. Like, you know, as though, as tho, th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin, like, like, like, like, like, thi thi th is just just just just, it is just, it is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th i i is th i is th i is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi. It is thi, it is thi. It is thi, thi. It is thi. It is that, that, that, that, that, that, to to to to to to to that toooo. too. too. too. thoo. thooo. tho. the the. that that the. Like you know as though as though fucking TVs didn't exist in 1985 or anything. Yeah. But again it's just to completely ignore the actual changes in society like ah kids aren't as good as outdoor activity but also like like remember when camping used to be like the cheap thing that people did with their kids? You know it's expensive as fuck. Yeah and now it's like at least 50 bucks a night in any national park that you go to and you've got to buy all the other shit.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I own a tent and stuff. And hey, maybe maybe you live in a fucking apartment and there is no way to put... Yeah, there's no way to put any of this shit and you don't have a backyard for your kids to play in. And you don't have, like, tools for them to master the use of. Maybe my kids really good at fortnight and maybe he's going to be a fantastic streamer one day. Yeah, I mean like what's the data on like no scope? Yeah, what's better than kids no scope now, you know? Yeah, what would my kids be like using an AR 14? How many? How many words per minute can one of these motherfuckers from 1985 text, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Mm-hmm. Worthless, they'd be pecking it one finger. Well, you can jump far, good for you. Yeah, I don't know when I got out in like my career, my, I'd get into a job interview or whatever, and they're like, yeah, no, this is all good, but like, how far can you jump, dude? It's just like, we're talking like, 50 centimeters? I'm like, like, 50 centimeters, I'm like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th........... to.. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. there, you're showing them your like master's degree and they're not really paying attention as they like lay a tape measure down on the floor. In front of a computer for fucking 10 hours a day. But again, you know, it's, this really makes me think of like every time you hear this shit,
Starting point is 00:16:56 like every time you hear this shit about like, millennials are entitled because they move around from job to job all the time and all that sort of shit. Millennials aren't loyal to their employers anymore. And they never finish the second half of that sentence, which is, millennials are not loyal to employers because employers are no longer loyal to their employees. Yeah, and the only way to get a pay rise is to change jobs if you manage to hold a job in the first place. Yeah. The, yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to get a pay rise is to change jobs if you manage to hold a job in the first place. Yeah, the, yeah, like the reason people move jobs a lot is because like what's the, I don't have the figures on me but like the stats about how many more jobs now, the proportion of jobs now that are contract or temporary or part-time or whatever instead of just a full-time permanent job compared to 30 or 40 or 50 years ago is absolutely wild. It's like a significant part of the workforce is fucking casual.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And getting bigger all the time. And they just, they never finished that part of the sentence that it's like, employers have very deliberately eroded workers' rights in order to make it of the sentence that it's like, employers have very deliberately eroded workers' rights in order to make it easier to fire them, and as a result of that, it is also easier for employees to leave with little notice. And shockingly, some people try to take advantage of that how they can. Also that yard that your kid was running around in 1980 cost you $50,000 and then you sold it in 2015 for two million dollars so fuck off.
Starting point is 00:18:37 So someone who subdivided it and built several units on that. So simply fuck off. Oh yeah I just I love that sort of shit like the hey it turns out that you know people people aren't getting all the these fundamental types of engagement and play like kids aren't getting all this kind of stuff must be those damn screams. Must be those phones you know what I'm saying? Oh my goodness. Hey, you guys remember, you guys remember a old Fraser adding? Hmm, uh, racist guy? Senator Fraser, I'm doing finger quotes, extremely racist, adding.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Fraser? Fraser, Fraiser? Fracist Anning? I'm doing finger quotes, extremely racist, anning. Fraser Final Solution, Annie? That's the one. Fracist, anning? Fracist, and two racist for both the Cater Party and One Nation Party. Mm-hmm. It was interesting how the Caterparty tried to like, dig in and go, no, he's not too racist for us and they kept going and
Starting point is 00:19:45 then we're like fuck fuck he is too racist for us. You may remember us speaking before about pop cater not pop-cutta about um phrase rounding who was elected on a one nation Pauline Hanson's one nation fern a fern a fern ticket and then almost immediately started budding heads with Pauline Hanson's one nation Fern, a Fern ticket, and then almost immediately started budding heads with Pauline Hanson and quit the party was then I think an independent until he was snapped up by Bob Catters super crazy country party, whatever it's called, Catters Australia Party, cap, cap, Boston's someaps with Cap.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And yeah, and then he went out and just continued saying, just diabolically racist things. And so, yeah, if you go back to a previous episode of the show called A Day at the Racists, where we go over his maiden speech to a previous episode of the show called a Day at The Racists, where we go over his maiden speech to the Senate. It's great app. You check that out. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:20:53 In which he calls for a final solution to our immigration problem, amongst other things. He was calling for like, um, you know, a return to the good old days of Joe Belky Peterson's Queensland and all that kind of stuff. Just all kinds of things. And as pointed out by a friend of the show Matt, he said, remember, seems like only yesterday we were being told that this guy didn't know what final solution meant because he didn't go to university. Which is a cause.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But you did go to the school of hard knocks. It's so true. That is of course a reference to Bob Catter. That is of course. Oh look at Bob Catter. Look at it. It's a good to go well so far. Okay. This guy, he didn't, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, th, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, he, he didn't, he didn't go, he didn't go, he thin, he thin, he th. He th. He th. He, he th. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he th. He th. He, he, he, he th. He th. He th th. He, he, he, he, he th. He, he th. He, he didn't go. He, he didn't go. He didn't go, he didn't go. He didn't go. He didn't go, thin, thin. He didn't go th. He didn't go th. He didn't go th. He didn't go th. He didn't go thin. He didn't go thatter. No, no, no, no. The sky will go well so far.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Okay. This guy, he didn't, he didn't go to university? He didn't read any of these fancy books. You gotta shake your head around while you do it. That's so much head shaking. Okay. It's good. He doesn't know what these words mean. He's five dollar words. All his syllables.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And uh... Yeah, the pitch does dip once every two-seater. Jumps around. Oh. And so yeah, this is his defense was basically like, don't worry. He said, jumps around, jumps around. Oh. And so yeah, this is his defense was basically like, don't worry, this senator doesn't know what words mean. He's never, he's 60 or 70, he's never encountered words before. So this from Fraser Annings, Twitter account, a post from Thursday in which he says,
Starting point is 00:22:47 Fraser Annings Conservative National Party commits itself to return Australia to the predominantly European Christian nation that our founding fathers intended us to become. Capital F's on founding fathers there like that's a thing in Australia? As a crazy person would, yes. Yep. To re-consecrate our nation so that the crimson thread of kinship may once again run through us all. Now I know what you're thinking. Sounds great. Sounds normal. Sounds normal. Sounds like some super normal stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:24 We all love super normal stuff. We all love super normal guys like this. But hey, here's a little bit of history that Matt has accompanied this quote with. In a speech to a Federation conference banquet in 1890, Henry Parks coined the term crimson thread of kinship to describe the ties that bound the Australian colonies. The reference was to shared Anglo-Celtic bloodlines to the exclusion of indigenous Asian and other contributors to nation-building and the nation's gene pool. This statuette celebrates his stirring speech, which was to resonate until at least 1914
Starting point is 00:24:03 when the crimson thread was used as a call to arms. So you know as usual it's um it's worse than you think. yeah it's always great to see flat-out outright white nationalism referencing like making direct reference to Nazi propaganda in the Australian Senate in 2019. It's normal. Love it. Just having a normal that you just say everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. Yeah. It's true though, I do that. I do that. I do that too. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:49 There's just... Oh, I don't know, every time you sort of think, ah, well, that couldn't get any worse. Just with this guy in particular, gets much worse. Much worse. Frankly speaking. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Good. All right. Frankly,
Starting point is 00:25:11 frankly, frankly speaking. It's looking pretty silly all over the shop. I'm starting to get that vibe from this government that they are just very very very on board with the fact that it's all over that they are going to know surely. Yeah they know that they're just going to get fucking wrecked at the next election they've got it right? But I think they know I feel like Scott Morrison's not doing much anymore
Starting point is 00:25:43 no he's just riding it out they're just keeping their heads down. I feel like Scott Morrison's not doing much anymore. No, he's just going to... They're just keeping their heads down. It's doing their best, you know? It's doing the best to make it through. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect. That is so true. But there has been a whole interesting thing going on with this franking credits inquiry. Now Theo, you were taskededededededededededededededededededed the the the the the the the the the the the their they they they they they they they're they're th asked th asked on with this franking credits inquiry.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Now Theo, you were tasked with the job of researching and then telling us what franking credits are. How did that go? Um, all right, look, keep in mind I'm no finance genius. Not what it says on your business card. No money man. What do we hire you for? No, not a person of coins.
Starting point is 00:26:28 But here's what I think. So you buy a bunch of shares, right? And I'm going to use the example from the Commonwealth bank page for this. Say you own one, um own one bucket of shares. How big is the bucket? It's a big bucket as we will get to. Now, the companies that sell these shares may choose to pay back dividends if they've made a lot of profits that year to investors, to shareholders,
Starting point is 00:27:07 to encourage people, to make it an attractive share for people to buy them, right? So a dividend is some, it's not like the capital gains that you get, it's not the increase in the share price. It is a separate thing that gets paid out twice a year I think that you just that you receive and normally that goes on to your income tax and the the frank dividends refers to dividends that have that the company paying out has paid the 30% Australian business tax on. So if they pay you a $1,000 worth of dividends, which is a shipload, then they will pay $300 worth of tax on that and you will receive $700.
Starting point is 00:28:02 The credit means that you get back the money that is the difference between the amount of tax that they pay and the amount of tax that you pay. So if you're just a normal person, and all of your tax adds up to 15%. Your income tax bracket is, you add it all up all the way through all the different brackets, and you get to 15% your income tax bracket is, you know, you add it all up all the way through all the different brackets and you get to 15% right? In that case, you get $150 back, right?
Starting point is 00:28:33 So they've paid the 30% you get for some reason the 15% difference between the two back. So in the end instead of $700, you would get $850. Where things get very, very lucrative, is when you have a self-managed share, superannuation fund, and your portfolio consists just of these shares that pay dividends. You pay no tax. So what happens is in this case if you had these shares that pay dividends. You pay no tax. So what happens is, in this case, if you had these dividends that paid out $1,000, they paid $300 worth of tax on it,
Starting point is 00:29:14 you get $300 back from the government. So in effect, you get the full $1,000. The government pays you that $300. It's very weird. It favors people with gigantic share portfolios. And it has made, the concept of this handout has made people, or the concept that this may get taken away by the Labour government, which is what is being proposed, has made people insanely mad. And they are talking about, you know, in the Murdoch kind of presses, you know, these people that may lose $30,000 a year or something along those lines.
Starting point is 00:29:53 What they failed to mention, and so I did a bit more reading, the highest, the highest payout share I could find was 10%. The big banks pay like 5% or 6% dividends. You would need to have somewhere in the region of $2 million worth of shares to be getting $30,000 worth of credits, not dividends. This is $30,000 worth of money back from the government. And so, and that's, yeah, so that's not even taking into account the much larger proportion that you're actually making in your profits in the first place. That you pay no tax on, right?
Starting point is 00:30:40 Because it's a, because your, your super fund is in pension mode, right? That's the the whole that's the whole point you're supposed to share this stuff you know save all this stuff up and it pays out at the end but but that's not enough you know that that it that it pays out at the end and it gains you know whatever capital gains it gets they also need these these dividends just paying out constantly to support their lifestyle it's it's it's th. it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thee the thee thee the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi out constantly to support their lifestyle. It's very, very weird. And people have structured their entire retirement. They've put all of their eggs into this one basket, right? They've said, this is the thing,
Starting point is 00:31:16 because they know, and financial advisors know that it is an absolute racket. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be mad about it. If it wasn't a racket, then they would just go and buy more property like they're used to doing, right? They would just go and diversify into shares that have a higher percentage, you know, you know, year on year game, but they don't. So people, you know, we've seen these scenes all through the country of, you know, they'll hold town hall meetings in, you know, the northern beaches of Sydney or whatever, right? And it's just
Starting point is 00:31:51 going to be wall-to-wall with 60-7-year-old people just absolutely losing their mind. Extremely white-looking meetings. Very white-looking meetings. And people just shouting about how this is unfair, it's a new tax, and it's like, no, no, no, you're just losing this crazy loophole. So maybe shut the fuck up. So, I guess, yeah, like, that's the background to what this, this franking, what are they, franking, franking credits? I definitely understood all of that. Good. Well, I'm glad we all learned something here today.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Rich motherfuckers be making more money. And of course, it kind of goes without saying in all of this that like Theo was saying anybody who has enough money to be making the maximum amount of like getting the maximum amount of franking credits so if you are getting like five or ten or twenty thousand dollars a year back from this thing it means that you are also making probably hundreds of thousands of dollars a year through the dividends and that you have millions of dollars invested in your shares and you can be like 100% guaranteed that anybody with
Starting point is 00:33:21 that sort of share portfolio also has a bunch of land and property. Yeah, that you can guarantee they're not paying rent, right? Like at the very least. But also that like, that that is not the limit of their assets. 100%. That there would be people who had like, you know, started off with property and branched out into this. So that that, so that this money that we're th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tha, tha, So that that, so this money that we're talking about, the several million dollars worth of shares
Starting point is 00:33:49 that are making hundreds of thousands in dividends that are making tens of thousands in franking credits are not even the largest base of their assets. And these are the people who are desperately afraid that they were going to have something taken off. I don't know whether that the last part is true though. Like I think that there's definitely a trend in financial advisors to advise people that this is the way to go, right? Like you, even if you have to sell your property to buy shares that pay out a lot of dividends, this is the way to go because it it it it it it is th. th. because it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is th is thi th is thi th is thi thi thi thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi. thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi thi is the is thi thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is th buy shares that pay out a lot of dividends, this is the way to go because it is such a gold mine. Because it's a stream of money. And they are absolutely incensed that this entirely passive income, right?
Starting point is 00:34:35 And they are absolutely passive income, right? And it is an entirely passive income, right? You can't even say like, oh, well, I invested my money smartly. It's like, no, no, the financial advisor told you exactly the thing that you need to do. It's not like watching the shares go up and down and go, oh, well, you know, I'm going to get good gains out of this one or that one. You've just dumped all of your money into one bucket and then expected... It's not like taking the Bradley Cooper limitless brain pill. That's exactly right.
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Starting point is 00:36:05 Just to draw the line under it though, they are already making more money off that money. That's right. This is another layer of more money. Even if you had that money and you put it in a cash account and you were making 3% on it, right? Like, or 2.5% right, that is still an absolute shitload of money. You like way, way, way more than the pension, right? So if you want to talk about people retiring comfortably, you know, what don't, what are we talk about getting rid of this kind of bullshit, right, that just
Starting point is 00:36:47 furthers the gap between the rich and the poor, and it further, and you know, for generations by the way, because all of this extra money is going to their children who don't deserve it. And we talk about raising the pension, right? Like so that people can retire in indignity. This brings me to another point about this, the the inherent stuff, which is a lot of the argument that these people make is, like, I think the arguments that we've seen at these town halls, which we'll get to in a second, the arguments that we've seen are, ah, this is an attack on us and our children and our
Starting point is 00:37:31 grandchildren. Now, it's not explicitly stated, but the very obvious implication there is, this nest egg of money that I've got is going to be an inheritance, yes, for my snotty children. This stupid dick grandson's name, Chet. And like, this is the thing. These people have like built up this pile of assets and shares and everything. They've built up, you know, a share portfolio that's worth several million dollars over. And when they get extremely mad about this stuff and lash out at whoever is proposing to change it, what they invariably wind up saying is, hey, get your hands off our money, get
Starting point is 00:38:15 your hands off our savings, we build this stuff up, and if you change this thing, we will have to keep dipping into our money in order to fund our retirement. Yeah, God help us that any of this money in order to fund our retirement. Yeah, God help us that any of this money may return into society. Yes, and that's the thing. It's almost like that is the entire point of funding your own retirement, of having saved up all of this money so that you can have enough of a pool of money sitting there to get you through your retirement comfortably without having to do it on the pension. And I love like the people who act like, oh well if they're going to, you know, if we're
Starting point is 00:38:58 going to get taxed at a high rate or if anything's going to sort of interfere with this, then then we'll just spend it all and go on the pension and we'll be taking taking taking taking taking tak tak tak to to tak to to to tak. to sort of interfere with this, then we'll just spend it all and go on the pension and we'll be taking money from you. It's like, well, you know, on balance. Yeah, you put that money back in. Yeah, it's fine. If you put all that money back in and then we're drawing a pension, you'd probably be, you know, about the same as if you were not putting any money back in and taking the money from
Starting point is 00:39:25 these franking credits. Also feel free to you know yell at me and tell me my whole ass is showing and what have you but I don't I don't believe the pension is 30,000 dollars a year. Yeah I thought it was more around the 22,000 dollar. I don't think it's 30 that seems a lot like they are already drawing more money out of the tax p- th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. I the. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. the. the. the. the. theee. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat theeeeeeeeeeeeat theeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the. th. a lot. Like they are already drawing more money out of the taxpayers' purse than if they were on a pension. Yeah. So speaking of the public inquiries. Speaking of drawing from the public purse. So the public inquiries have been set up by IPA Libertarian W Wonder Dick, Tim Wilson. Tim Wilson is to me just the absolute epitome of the shit-eating grin debate club dickhead. Like just, here's an example for you. Very recently, somebody was tweaiding grin debate club dickhead.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Like just, here's an example for you. Very recently, somebody was tweeting at him about something, shit, that the liberals were doing, and saying, you know, this is your part of this government that's fucking this thing up, and this guy who is a senator, is he a senator or a member? He's a member, isn't he? He's an MP? Yes, to be that. I mean they're all in peace but... You know what I'm talking about. Sorry. You know what I'm talking about. Um, said, I'm not part of the government. And everybody went, shut the fuck up. Yes you are. And he, he just dragged this thing out for, I feel like, at least one or two days of trying to argue the extremely semantic points of, well, you
Starting point is 00:41:16 know, I am technically a member of a political party, which currently has enough votes to be able to form a cabinet which then makes decisions as a government and I'm not in the cabinet so I'm technically not a member of government and... Wow. To which I say obviously a massive fuck you because of course everybody knows what we mean when we say the you know the fucking government that is comprised of members of this one political party which you are also an elected representative of and that that to me like
Starting point is 00:41:59 really really encapsulated just the debate team dickheaded bullshit that he engages in on a constant basis and I think also just represents the absolute worst of politics in like the the Westminster system where you just see all these people who are very clearly you know, Sydney private school dickheads where they have had access to privilege through their whole life to, you know, go and do fucking stupid student politics, debate club bullshit and everything is just about this is, this is a game, this is a game where I'm scoring points and I'm arguing things a particular way just this whole ridiculous shit I think the only the only worst thing that I have seen him do than that is the is that Tim
Starting point is 00:43:02 Wilson has now started trying very hard to bang the whole drama of, the Liberal Party gave Australia marriage equality. Yeah, I love that line. It's really logical. It's very truthful. Yep. Just this whole thing of, it's just pure semantics. It is, well, the bill that legalized same-sex marriage was passed under a... Under that government. Under a liberal government, under a coalition government.
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Starting point is 00:44:56 talking about how you should be fucking grateful to the liberal party. Because technically, technically, they passed the law. It's just the most... I knew they would do this. Disappointing shit. Well, that's been fucking Malcolm Turnbull's deal, like post-getting, post-getthrone out, he's been like, my legacy has been bringing equality to the people. Yeah, get fucked. Yeah, you bent over for the fucking horrible right wing of your party been bringing equality to the people. Yeah, get
Starting point is 00:45:25 fucked. You bent over for the fucking horrible right wing of your party the entire time you spineless mother fucker. So I begin to act like he's doing anybody a favor. So Tim Wilson is heading the public inquiries into Bill shortens plan to rein in franking credits now this is unusual mainly for the reason that as i'm reading bits and pieces from a report in the the sitting morning herald by Eric Bagshaw
Starting point is 00:46:00 uh... as you said the franking credits inquiry is unusual in that parliamentary committees do not usually investigate opposition policies. So it's not even a thing that's happening yet. It's a thing that will happen because they know it will, but you're right. But that's not the point. The point is that they are currently in government and no one in the government is proposing to make this a law. The only thing that has happened is Labor has said if we are elected we
Starting point is 00:46:36 will change this thing and so they're like running all these parliamentary inquiries into like a hypothetical law on the basis of somebody else winning government at some point in the future, which is generally not really what these things are for. Tim has then said about setting up a website, got a website done Probably a square space maybe. Who knows? Who knows? His nephew? Called Stop the Retirement Tax.com. It is not an official government website, but he did bother to put the government code of arms on there.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Retirement tax. Good grief. Well, yes, and as a lot of people have pointed out, it's. Retirement tax. Good grief. Well, yes, and as a lot of people have pointed out, it's not a fucking tax. He's trying to do the Tony Abbott thing of like, stop this tax when... It's not a tax. Well, yeah, saying that it's a tax suggests that there is some new way in which they're taking money from people as opposed to just saying we're going to stop handing you money in this specific circumstance. It's a punishment for being successful. It's what it is.
Starting point is 00:47:54 The Labour Party is having a big tall glass of hater aid right now. That's it. Jealous. It's a disease bitch get well soon. So you set up this website, stop the retirement tax.com, and this is what people are supposed to use to register their interest in attending these public inquiries, these sessions of this public inquiries that they're doing. Some eagle-ired people immediately realized that, number one, had the government seal on
Starting point is 00:48:34 it, making it look like it was an official government website when it is not. Number two, to find out where these things were taking place and get the information so that you could attend them, you have to fill in a form. And the form has an option on it, which says, I am happy for you to put my name and details on this petition calling for this tax to not be a thing, and that was a required field on the form. So if you wanted to get the information about where the inquiry, the the the the in the in, the in, the in, the information, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the information, you the information, you the information, you the information, you to the information, you the the information, you to the information, you the information, you to the to the the to to the the to the information, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to the information, to to to the information, the information, the information, the information, the information, the the the the the the the the their, their, their, the be a thing. And that was a required field on the form. So if you wanted to get the information about where the inquiry was so you could come and make your public submission to it, you had to agree to them using your name on a petition saying you didn't want this thing to go ahead.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Very above board stuff. Now it seems like this website might have also been made with money for the to the thi. to. to. to. to. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be a to be a to to be a to to to to to to to to to to get. to to get to to get to get to get to get to get to to get to to to to to to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to the information to get the information to get the information to get to get the information to get the information. So. So. So. to get the information. the information. the information. the information. the information. the information. the information. the information. the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the information. the the to the to to the information about. I. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the information. Now it seems like this website might have also been made with money from one Jeff Wilson. Jeff Wilson is the head of, what is it, Wilson Asset Management. There you go. Which, it turns out, it's a firm founded and chaired by Jeff Wilson with $3 billion in funds under management. Tim Wilson, who is chairing the probe, is also an investor in funds run by Wilson asset management. That's a fun, it's fun coincidence, isn't it? Oh, I mean, that, probably owns a lot of shares.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I mean, that's not real. That's not direct evidence of collusion, though. The MP has disclosed the shareholding in the Parliamentary Register, but has not declared it during public hearings around Australia. That is a departure from a standard set by Liberal MP, David Coleman, who regularly declared his interest in a financial services firm during a recent banking inquiry. Asked about the shareholding on Tuesday, Mr Wilson promised to public to disclose it at the start of future hearings. Oh, now that you've asked me about it. I guess I do have this pecuniary interest. About $160,000 in public
Starting point is 00:50:44 funding is being spent on venues, accommodation and travel, on scaring retired people about this thing that isn't a law yet. It's almost like, call me cynical, if you will, but it's almost like this is just Tim Wilson using a bunch of taxpayer money to run a scare campaign against the opposition as part of an upcoming election? Well I mean but it surely sounds like that but perhaps it's also him colluding with people that have interest to the contrary, as per the overheard and recorded call
Starting point is 00:51:32 of him and Jeff Wilson agreeing to collude on the campaign, which seems bad. It seems like a thing that you don't want recorded when you're trying to, you know, launch this campaign into a policy that you really want to get to the bottom of. But maybe, maybe that's normal. I don't know. Well, it seems that way. Seems normal. Seems like all good things to do. Yes. Audio of an investor-only call in September reveals Jeff Wilson, boasting of discussions with Mr Wilson months before the public hearings began. We have to maintain the pressure so we get the result, the fund manager told investors. I was saying it would be nice if one of the hearings could be on a day we are doing a roadshow. Then we could do a little protest, we could have our placards and we could walk down there.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Wilson Assets Management's Franking Credit Roadshow coincided with the hearing of the Parliamentary Inquiry in Sydney on November 20th. Isn't that a strange coincidence. Hey if you're wondering why they have the same last name, it turns out that Tim Wilson and Jeff Wilson are related. It's fine. Interesting. Fascinating. That's fine. It's fine. Interesting. Fascinating. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It's probably fine. Oh, dear. So obviously Labour have been saying, hey, you should probably resign now? Well, I mean, that would help him towards his goal of making government smaller. That's true. That's true. How do you even square that stuff? His like ultra-libertarian stupid shit of like bureaucracy is bad and a big government and also I am an elected member of the government. Yeah, I never get like libertarians in parliament.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Like, what's like, what's your whole, what's your deal here? I kind of get it in the context of like, the, I guess the, the very conservative thing of like, let's get elected into government and then just start shuddering government agencies and cutting funding to things. Yeah. But like, I don't know, I always sort of think like here's an idea and stay the fuck out of it if you just... And also like libertarians that are like, oh actually I should be getting some kind of government rebate or like tax breaks and stuff. I should be getting some sweet largesse. I should be
Starting point is 00:54:07 getting some money from the government but in a freedom way. So we'll, I guess we'll watch this space and see how this whole thing shakes out. We did, we did have a, a guest from a friend of the show who said, there's no way that Tim Wilson is gonna resign and no way that he will be forced to resign. The government is in full on just, you know, just destroying the place mode. They're in full on, burn the place to the ground mode.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And I don't think that's an unreasonable assessment. It's so pretty screwed at this point. Yep. And yeah, I definitely think they're in the... Well, especially because they're like, they're already a minority government're already, are they already a minority government? But like one vote? I think so. They don't have a majority right since the last? Yeah, so the idea at this point, when they're like only several months away from an election,
Starting point is 00:55:20 the idea at this point of them like like making somebody resign for doing really dodgy shit means that they would like... I mean, in fairness, labor have only been calling for him to resign as the head of the inquiry. I haven't even been calling him for him to just like quit altogether. Weak. Despite how incredibly fucking dodgy the whole thing is. It's bizarre isn't it? Like the whole thing is just so transparently coordinated from the get-go. And you can really imagine Tim Wilson as well just being like, I am so fucking smart.
Starting point is 00:56:03 So fucking smart. I'm just going to arrange all this shit and it's going to make labor look so bad and everyone will think I'm awesome. And then it's immediately become apparent that he is just colluding with a rich share fund manager to do all this stuff. Oh, speaking of which, we haven't even touched on the, God I've lost the name of it now, Defenders of Self-Funded Retirees page on Facebook, where there was this, again, another like, grassroots movement to be,
Starting point is 00:56:37 you know, we're hard-working Australians who reject Labour's proposal to impose double taxation, not a taxation, and to demonize us. But it turns out it was an operation run by the Liberal Party in the trucking industry. They didn't disclose any of this as they are required to do, as far as, you know, political messaging goes and that sort of thing. So they're literally just like laying astroturf as fast as they can in front of them towards the election. That's all they're doing. Now, just in case you're thinking to yourself, hey, maybe a bunch of these retirees are really like just hard-working people, you know, they've worked their fingers to the bone over the years and they're really good-hearted people.
Starting point is 00:57:33 They're trying to do the right thing. And they feel like maybe, maybe, you know, they're being hard done by here. I'd like to just read to you an account from Michael Cosiole who was attending one of these hearings and he was live tweeting this stuff. So just so you can get a picture of the kinds of people who are going to this sort of thing and the kinds of people who are extremely mad about this shit. Michael tweets. Loud booze from the crowd when a woman says the money saved by abolishing
Starting point is 00:58:09 refundable francant credits could go to public schools. Well, what do they need them for? I love to boo public schools. Love to boo the idea that all the children in our country could be helped to a better education. Big cheers for someone who tells the inquiry, this isn't just an attack on us, it's an attack on our families and our grandchildren. Great bit of a cognitive dissonance there, if only your children and grandchildren could have somewhere good to go to school. But they will because they'll go to private schools, so what does it matter, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:48 Ah, but they won't go to the expensive one. They'll go to the 15 grand-plus one. They'll have to go to the mid-tier private school. The Catholic school, oh no. And then of course, if you would, like, if that's not bad enough, for me it was the whole room full of silver-haired men booing a lady who said maybe we should give some funds to public schools. To me, I was already there. But in case you're wondering about the lengths that these people will go to to make
Starting point is 00:59:21 their arguments. A man responds to the argument, and this is legitimate, that no other country has refundable franking credits. So this is true. This is a scheme that does not exist anywhere else in the world. This was set up by John Howard's liberal government a little while before he was voted out of office. It's very transparently been set up as they think to just benefit people with, you know, large, fles, the the their sles, their sles, their sles, their sles, their sles, their sles, thish, thish, thish, thlifliflifliflifliflipe, thi. thi. that's that's thi. that's thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to thi, to the, to to to the to to theateateateateateate to to theateate to to to to to to to to to to to to th been set up as they think to just benefit people with, you know, large, fleshy share portfolios.
Starting point is 00:59:52 A man responds to the argument that no other country has refundable franking credits, quote, the flogging of homosexuals doesn't happen in Australia, but it happens in other countries. Does that mean it should happen in Australia? Oh wow, that is an argument right there. Check and mate. I can't argue with that one. Well, oh, so something that happens here doesn't happen somewhere else?
Starting point is 01:00:18 Are you trying to tell me that something that happens somewhere else but doesn't happen here should happen here? I think that's absolutely cogent through line for sure. He's absolutely, he's just decimated me with logic. There is no, I love when people's argument is just like, oh yeah, well what if I removed all context and meaning from the thing that we're talking about? What then? It's like well then we're just talking shit? What? What? What if I? It's like what if? What if I? What if I? What if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I, what if I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th thi? thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. He? He? He? He? He? He? He's th. He? He? He? He's th. He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, that's just just just just just thi. thi. thi's just just just just just just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi? thi? th thing that we're talking about. What then? It's like, well, then we're just talking shit. What? It's like, what if I said this same thing about men or about women? What then? What if I said this about women? It's like, yes, if you removed all contexts and nuance from this thing, also you have a different meaning. In this example, she is comparing franking credits
Starting point is 01:01:07 to whipping homosexuals. Yes. That is the comparison that is occurring. It's not the other way around. Yeah, what if there was a big pussy emoji? What about that? What about that? How do you think men, how do you think women would feel about that? I don't think the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, their thi, thi, thi, their thixt. thixt. thixt. thixt. thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thate, thate, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thea thea thea tea-a-a-auoanananananananananananananananananananananananananthat? I don't think they can, I don't think the technology exists to render your face an emoji. Render a big, open pussy emotion.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Oh my God, folks. Well, like I said, look, let's, we'll watch this space. We'll see what happens. I would not be surprised if the prediction holds true that, of course, they, we, they, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, they, you, you, they, you, they, you, you, they will, you, they will, they will, they will, they will, you, they will, you will, you will, you will, you will, you will, you will, tho, thinks, thinks, thinks, th surprised if the prediction holds true that of course they will, you know, I mean Scott Morrison's already said, Labour's just trying to throw mud at Tim Wilson for protecting hard-working retirees. So I think that the prediction will hold true, that he totally won't be forced to resign, because I think at this stage of the government this fire into collapse, there is nothing other than like being charged with murder. No, there's no
Starting point is 01:02:16 accountability. Yeah, I think I think someone will have to be... There was that one guy who had to like quit... one liberal... no, sorry, he was that one guy who had to like... Quit, one liberal, no, sorry, he was a national party guy who had to quit recently. Did he, did they make him quit or did they just not, not pre-select him? He was the guy who had like gone and stayed at someone's house and then like, attempted to fuck their teenage daughter. What? Yeah, it was a whole story, it's a whole story and he was like, that's crazy. I would never try to do that.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And meanwhile, everybody else from the New South Wales liberals was like, yeah, we've heard some pretty fucked up stuff about this guy. But, but like, this is the extent of what you have to do to even raise an eyebrow from the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals the liberals this is the extent of what you have to do to even raise an eyebrow from the liberals at this point. They're just in full-on corrupt collapse. So yeah, I think they're at the stage where you would have to, you know, shoot somebody in the face in the middle of the street with 60 people looking at you at the time in order for them to say, uh, he's gonna, he's gonna take to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to take to take take take take take take take take to to take to tak some to to tak some tak some to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tak. tak. tak. try. try. try. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. their theirtime in order for them to say, uh, he's gonna, he's gonna take some time with his family to really think about, he's gonna reflect, he's gonna reflect.
Starting point is 01:03:33 So we'll see what happens. As always folks, if you would like an extra episode of the show every week, you can head on over to Patreon.com forward slash Buonto Vista. Give us our franking credits. Give us five dollars worth with your franking credits every month and in exchange we will give you an extra episode every week and we're good for it. We turn out those episodes like. We're hard-working retirees. That's right. Working through our old age over here. If you say, hey would you like a shirt? Would you like a shirt? Do you want a shirt?
Starting point is 01:04:13 A shirt on your back. Head on over to Buentevista.com forward slash merchandise. And you can get some shit. As always if you would like to write some erotic fan mail to Theo, and send an email to Theo at Buntavista.com, that will be received in his personal inbox, he will be very uncomfortable about it. Right about big pussies. Yeah, setting up a filter right now. Send him a photo of just your huge, yawning pussy. My wife will be checking all of the emails by default. They all get forwarded
Starting point is 01:04:53 to her first and then she clears them and forwards them on to Theo. Oh dear. All right, thanks everybody. Thanks for your time. Do you want to... What's the listening? Oh yeah. I was going to say, Lucy, do you have any words of wisdom for the people out there? Is this because Ben's gone? Do I... Someone's got to do it, and you are the next wisest person. I haven't got any words of wisdom.
Starting point is 01:05:17 All I have to say at this point is fuck self-funded retirees-o-o to be forced to spend all your money before you die so you shitty kids can't have it. Yep, yeah imagine having to dip into your retirement fund for your fucking retirement. Hmm. I'm sorry I've got nothing more positive. Have a nice week weekend. Take that bi-take that big positive endorsement to the bank folks. I hope your heart is as big as the pussy. What I got. Classic. Classic stuff. Right folks. week. All right. Bye. Bye.

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