Boonta Vista - EPISODE 86: Such Is Radio

Episode Date: February 17, 2019

Andrew, Ben & Theo have a terrible announcement to make. They also cover the recent Medivac bill, the government's current direction, and what the show might actually be about. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Budav Vista episode 86. That's not 86 like killing something, you know when they say something's been 86th? No. That's the thing, you never heard that expression before? I've heard Americans say that. I'm not gonna remit to it. Um, it's not like being deep-sixed as well, I suppose. What the name is Andrew?

Sealed team six, yes. My name is Andrew. I'm here with my friends Ben. Hey, hello. Hello. And Theo. How do you? How is your duty? That's not bad.

Oh, don't. Urban Dictionary tells us that to be 86th, get rid of originally for killing someone. The phrase, 80 miles out and 6 feet deep, was a reserve for someone who had to dig their own grave, 80 miles from civilization, and then get shot execution style. If that's really the origin of that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not bad bad bad bad, it's not bad, that's not bad, that's not bad that's not bad bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not is not is not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's that's not thia thia thi-a's not thi-a's not thi-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a' get shot execution style. If that's really the origin of that, that is phenomenal. That's a lot isn't it? Yeah, it feels like it's one of those things that people have done after the fact that are way cooler than the actual thing but yeah. Yeah, who knows? I think that's fair. So there you go folks. That's all the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the. the. the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's all the knowledge we've got for you for the day. Thank you for listening in.

We'll just wrap it up here. Lipen so scripe. And that's why we're not YouTube. We just cannot nail that. We cannot nail it. I keep trying. Please gribe and survive. Oh, he's hurt and begurk. I can't do it.

I keep trying. You keep hanging in there and one day you too will be able to hopefully get like five cents per 6,000 impressions of your videos or whatever. I don't know. It's probably not that much. It's probably a lot less than that. Look, I know that everybody comes here's probably a lot less than that. Look, I know that everybody comes here for a bit of comedy, for the laughs, for the

lulls if you will. I won't. You absolutely will. And I'm not going to. I cannot and I will not. I know people come here for fun, but today we have, we have some breaking news. Now like I said I know that normally we're known for our Japes, we're known for our fun. But not everything is fun.

We're known for our goof about. Not everything it's fun in this life. Capers. Capers, Japers, Japes, hijinks, spoofs, frolics, um, com-meaning vignettes. Cavorting, do we do any cavorting? Gambling, but the... Oh, but the B-O-L. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, all these things are what we're known for. But not everything in life is all peaches and cream, all roses and seals. Biscuits and gravy. Have you got one for you? Uh, no. No. Not everything is all fun in games. We have a sad announcement for you today, folks. You see, some friends of the show that we spoke about back on episode 72, made an announcement today.

Was it that longer? Because it feels like a lifetime. It feels like only yesterday. We saw if I can even hear you say it, to be honest. I've... It's some heartbreaking news. How long does this music go before it? It's got to go for the rest of the episode. Heartbreaking use today.

Rip this band-aid off. It was rip it off like a, one of those near strips. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We have announced that the Warner Bull Radio Show, Monkey and the Big fella will not be continuing in 2019. It hurts me to say it. You know, just for me personally,

I can't even say the words monkey or bigfellow without putting an end between them, other than just then, when I use or instead. Oh, it's heartbreaking stuff. It's hard to imagine that out there in the world there is a monkey and then in a different place in a world. Without his big fella. Sons big fellow. And a monkey without a big fella. What even is that? It's like big without foot. It's just a monkey. Oh there's the music center now. Okay Max. We have a we have a press release here

from the standard. Warner Bull radio show hosts Coast FM's Matthew Monk and Maddie Stewart no longer together. Warner Bull's popular radio show hosts have parted ways. Ace radio station manager Peter Hedon said due to quote unforeseen circumstances Matthew Monk and Maddie Stewart would no longer feature on Coast FM's breakfast program. Mr. He said, the two boys are still employed by us, he said, the circumstances are suckewoce thate. The circumstances are such that they will not be working together on the breakfast show. That happens in radio and that happens in life.

That is so true. It's so true. Really makes you think. Mr. Hatton said a new breakfast show would begin called Monkey in the Morning. Oh, I'm laughing to keep from crying, folks. Used to be when people would say that Australians have no culture. I would point proudly to Monkey in the Big fella. We can only hope that Monkey in the morning continues to do

us proud. It's just going to be a sad time hearing a monkey in the morning with no big fella. No big fella. I just, I can't imagine, all right, that you, it's a Monday morning and you've, you've woken up, you've done all of your necessaries, you've gotten into the car and you know you're a bit blue you hate your job, you hate your boss, you feel dissatisfied, you feel like you're on a fucking treadmill you're going nowhere but every morning you know you're two best friends in the whole goddam world. They've always been there for you always been there they best friends in the whole goddamn world. They've always been there for you.

Always been there. They're always going to be doing mild jokes at each other's expense, occasionally doing prank calls, maybe. Always there to pick you up. Always there to play the right sound effect at the right moment. And then a voice comes on the radio. He says, hey, it's monkey, and you wait. But, and it's me, the big fella, never comes. It's heartbreaking. Tragic stuff.

You just keep driving. You go right past work and you just drive your car straight into the beach. Straight into the ocean. Like that one James Bond movie. Except it's not like it never th it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the right, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, the the the the the the thi. Hey, hey, hey, hey, the the the the the the the the the the the beach, straight into the ocean. Like that one James Bond movie. Except it's not like the James Bond car. It never turns into a boat, a submarine kind. No, it's the regular kind where the windows don't open once they become inundated with water. Oh dear.

Now, look, this, as you would imagine, this has not been received well. The report concludes that about 1 p.m. on Monday, Coast FM announced the changes on its Facebook page. It prompted a massive response with 128 heavily moderated comments in 38 minutes before the post was taken down. Censoring the people as they express their dismay at the dissolution. Side note with the ultimate team. 128, it's just very specific.

To my mind, it is very specific. That's, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Theo, but I believe 128. Now that's, that's a, one of the, one of the powers of two, am I right? That's right, it's one of the one of the powers of two am I right? That's right it's one of one of the famed quad numbers is that two to the eight no two to the seven it would be two to seven well here's that's right hmm it's also prime can I that's certainly not true. Can I drag us away from the numbers talk for a second? Now you fellas get very hung up.

If you must. I want to address the, the 800 pound monkey in the room. And we're not talking about big fella or monkey. Or the monkey himself, Matthew Monk. No, you really could go either way with that, to be honest. Or monkey. Or the monkey himself, Matthew Monk. No. You really could go either way with that, to be honest. No, that's right. Now, so, so they've parted ways, which happens in radio and in life.

But it's due to unforeseen circumstances, they will no longer feature on the breakfast program. They're both still employed there. They will both be featuring on separate radio shows. I'm wondering who fucked the other one's wife. Yeah, absolutely. Who fucked whose wife in this scenario? You know, who ted whose banana? You know what I'm saying? To my mind? My mind is on Big fella. My mind is absolutely on Big Fella. Oh for sure. We've all seen the photos. He's of course five feet tall and we know where the name comes from. Oh my goodness. Tragic times, tragic times in the world of Australian media.

Yeah, I mean, I'd like to apologize to the listeners that to start on such a down note, is maybe not great. Let's try and pull ourselves together. And let's try and move past this. I know that, I don't know, just pour one out for the big fellas. That's all we're saying. And the monkeys. And the monkeys. Yep. Pull one out from RIP to monkey in the big fella, which I assume ran from let's say 2060. You know how like everyone's one of the main characters from sex in the city like I'm a Miranda for example. Yeah, yeah, are you a monkey or a big fella? Yeah I believe that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that th. that that that th. th. thi, th. thi, thi, th-I is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th. I'm, th. I'm th. th. th. th. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thooooooooooooooooooooooo, th. I's, th. I'm th. I'm th. P. I the city like I'm a Miranda for example. Oh yeah yeah yeah are you a monkey or a big fella? Yeah I believe that everyone is a

monkey or a big fella. You're a monkey for sure. I always thought of myself as a big fella. Really? Yeah up until just now and now I'm starting to think that maybe I am a monkey. You're very relaxed. You're very relaxed. I have been eating a lot of snacks since I saw you last. I feel like a bigger fella in my person. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. I think of you as a big fella in that you have a physically intimidating presence and just a big personality. Well, you'll be pleased to know I've also been hitting the gym. I'm aiming to become an even bigger fella. One of those gym selfies happening again because those were some of the highlights of my week. Oh, spicy stuff.

You were getting into some very incredibly acrobatic poses by the end there. Ah, that's right when I used to climb the walls of the locker room. Yes, I'm surprised you forgot that. That's a throwbackbackbackbackbackbackbackbackbackback back tho' thatatatatatathea to that's a that's a to that's a that's to to that's to that's to walls of the locker room. Yes, I'm surprised you forgot that. That's a throwback I had completely forgotten that. Yes, so as soon as as as soon as I actually look shredded or something I'll get right on that. Are you gaining or shredding currently? Who could say? Who could say? I'm just I'm going and I'm lifting weights. I'm drinking those protein shakes. Doing a quick five. Sounds like you're going for the gains. Doing a quick 5k on the bike when I'm done. Yeah, so which one is it? You know. So you shred gaining? Yes. As you can

tell I have a great understanding of the things that I'm doing. Now I prefer this approach because I'm terrified by the way people boiling to to to to to to th. You to to th. You to th. You to th. You to th. You th. You th. th. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. I'm the. the the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm teate. I'm teate. te. te. te. te. the. the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm doing? No, I prefer this approach because I'm terrified by the way people boil it down to a science. I'd rather someone just be like, yeah, I started lifting trees in a panic and then now my body is great. Other than someone being like, well, I've got like a 10-day macro shred, and then I'll be going into a sort of hypersonic gains period. I don't like that. That's intimidating. That's what keeps me away from organized exercise. I'll never be dedicated enough to be doing any of the like counting your grams of protein and your calories and all that sort of shit.

All the meal prep that people do. As soon as it gets to the point where it's like, you have to just stop enjoying food and think of it purely as a very specific source of fuel. There's a guy at my work, who eats the same meal at lunchtime every day. And it is like a container of, you know, just like just the frozen vegetable medley that you get from the supermarket. It's just that, that stuff in a container with, with, I think there's like some chickpeas in there maybe, and then he just empties several cans of tuner into it and

stirs it up and eats it every day same meal every day. That is extremely depressing to me. It's so depressing it's one of those it's just one of those things that makes me fucking hate officers you know. It was a period in my life where I had a very unhealthy relationship with my body and my weight. And the only meal I was eating in the day, so I was eating one meal, I was doing an absurd amount of running during the day that at night I would fill basically like those big metal mixing bowls, I would fill one of those with just rocket leaves and tuna. God.

It was not a great time in my life, but nothing really positive I can say on that actually. Yeah. A guy, a different guy, this is a different guy at my work who does not look like he is eating for some specific getting shredded diet, but this guy is eating the same thing every morning. He comes in work and then makes himself breakfast in the office kitchen. And what he does every day is he puts a piece of toast in the toaster and then he microwaves an egg in the microwave in like a special microwaving an egg cup thing. And then he gets like a thing of, I think, tuna.

And then he gets a squeezy bottle of peri-peri-flavored mayonnaise. And then he mashes all of this shit up together and puts it on the toast. And that's what he eats for breakfast every god-dame day in that place. Just the stinkiest combo of stuff. Yeah, for starters, it should be absolutely a crime to eat breakfast at your desk. Um, agreed. I have nothing else. I have nothing else.

I have nothing else. Um, that's a strange like hot, tuna and egg-based breakfast that you have made in the office. I didn't know what the source was and I like said something about it the other day and someone was like what kind of sauce are we talking here? And I had to go to the fridge and look and I was like, oh it's worse than I thought. I don't want to be all, I don't want to sound like one of those people that are the punch line of white people be like a tweet. But that that, the pp. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the peree, the peree, the peree, the peree, the peree, the the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the. the. the. thean thean to too tooo twea. twea. twea theat theat the. the. the. fantastic. Go wild for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Chuck that on some chippies? Oh, heaven. Delicious stuff. Welcome to Buntavista, the show we talk about Monkey in the Big fella and what people in the office were eating.

This is something of an embarrassing admission on my part. But I was reading an article recently about how to do a good podcast and it wasn't for the purposes of being like, we need to make a good podcast. Yeah, someone had... You were just stressed out at night like we got to start fucking this up. What do I what do I Google? Someone had put this on Twitter and then it was one of those things where they're kind of baiting you by being like, this is all the things you're doing wrong on your podcast. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna read this and feel shit about myself. But I read it anyway. And they're like big takeaway from it was that at the start of the episode, you should very clearly say who everyone is and what the podcast is about,

like what you do. Because you're always, you should be expecting to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to expect to be expecting to be expecting to be expecting to be expecting to be expecting to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the all the time, which I don't think we are, but also... I feel like we just stopped thinking about that at some point. Yeah, yeah, no, I feel like we've got the listeners we need. We've got the right ones. We've let the right ones in. Yeah, if you are, if you plan on not listening to the show anymore, please fill an exit survey we will find a new listener to interview, th...... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I feel like thi. I thi. I thi, thi, th new listener to interview and take your place. Yes. One listener out, a new listener in. Yeah, it's a very careful balance that we've been. If you're listening to the podcast now and you didn't consult another listener on the way out,

you have actually jumped the queue. Yes. You should not be listening to the podcast. Please send it off. We will send you to podcast island. This is a good segue that you're working on here. All right, and... Actually, it's a side note, oh yeah, dude. A big bit on doing podcast is a reality TV show this week. Cool, there you go. Great minds. See, I was going to say that I had been listening to a different podcasts of some friends of the show Q&on Anonymous. I've been meaning to

listen to that I haven't done it yet though. Well um well I believe that there is soon to be a soon to be a surprise, soon to be a emerging of the Boutavista and Q&on Anonymous and trash future universes. You have said Q and non-anonymous flawlessly every time you said it and I feel like as I did just that I would stumble over it every time. Oh you make me very tense about it now. No but you did it beautifully I was complimenting you you're doing great. But they're a relatively new show, relatively new show Q and non-anonymous and I have been listening to some of their show and was immediately like oh these guys are their their their they they they they they they they they they are they are they are a they're they're a they're a thively thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thly thi. thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly th. thly thly th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the thei to the the thei thei thi thei thi thi thi thi thi thi th I have been listening to some of their show and was

immediately like, oh these guys are putting a lot of effort in. They tell you they tell you who everybody is, they tell you what the show is about and they've got like you know musical in allude they've very clearly recorded a bunch of separate segments where where they have a point you know? I was like, oh, oh. I don't, I think maybe describing that other podcast a better might be a terrible idea, not sure. We've definitely trying. We've got a thing. Thank you for hanging around with us. We appreciate it very much. If you're still listening. If you are, if you're not. Well see, our issue is packing the front of the show. They've heard the news about Monkey and Bigfellow. Yeah, well.

They're out. Look, look, with regards to this. You mean they're too depressed to finish listening to a podcast? Look, I'll say I'll say this just before we move on because it might all get a little too inside baseball for some people. Just when it comes the the the to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to the to the to to the to Just when it comes to the whole part of like telling everybody who you are and what the shows about it, maybe we could make a bit more effort to do that. The one thing, I feel like the one thing I can't get on board with that much is the like even though I think a lot of our listeners would probably have found us via Twitter, I still can't bring myself to be like, this is who I am on Twitter and this is who Ben is

on Twitter and that's where you can find me. But it's gone the wrong direction, right? Like if they've... Any of our Twitter names out loud ever. I can't, no. Although somebody, somebody did just tell me on Twitter the other day that they have just followed me because they've been listening to the podcast this whole time thinking that, sorry, they've been following you on Twitter, Ben, thinking that you were me on the podcast.

Oh yeah, I do remember them saying that. Which I wonder if someone got unfollowed in the process where they figured that out. Like sorry, Ithat out. Like if there was a switch there. Oh, sorry, I am out. Peace. We'll never know. So folks, if on your exit survey you could just say what information you really would have liked about the show, I don't know. Maybe we could put it on. I mean, I think that kind of is my larger point. Well, it's not large. I mean, what would we'd that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that kind. I that kind that kind that's that's not. I. I that's that. I that. I that. that. that. that. that. that. I. that. I. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. would we say? Australian politics. Welcome to Buntavista. We usually sometimes recap I guess

Australian political news. Yep and then we go around the table just saying so out of like 10 how depressed are you today? I don't know like 9. How much do you hate the Australian political landscape? Yep. How depressing is do you Do you ever see a way out? Although sometimes we don't do that at all, sometimes we cover things and we try to take them seriously as a subject and we get people on who are subject matter experts who know more about us and we ask some pretty straightforward questions. Other times we just talk for 20 minutes about like diarrhea that we got from bad hungry jacks or something you just you don't it's hard to say exactly

where we're going to go. That's all. Well look I've already made my feelings about the hungry jacks vegan burger very clear you won't find me getting diarrhea from hungry jacks any time soon. That's because your system has adjusted to it so well. And your diarrhea is always very discreet and so... You're absolutely right. If anything I would say I have the most private bowel movements of the podcast. My goodness. We don't have to dig into this again. Not for the hundredth time. And welcome to Budavista. If you have, if, if you have suggestions for how we could introduce a podcast at the start

of the podcast, every podcast, feel free to tweet them at Andrew. Uh, tweet them at, I just said I was never going to say them out loud before. I'll do it. Well, you know what Andrews at is. Tweet them at him. Don't tweet them at the Buntavista account. No, no, no, just directly at Andrew. Fill up his mentions.

And if it's over one tweet long, be sure to thread the front of the podcast. If you would like us to brief you on the subjects we're going to cover. I think some people might like to be surprised. I'm honestly, I hope people are just along for the right because I think to assume that we know what we're going to talk about, like in broad sense is very presumptuous. Hey speaking of Australian politics that depress us all. And diarrhea. Oh boy, I think we're the hot mess of diarrhea known as the government, am I right? There's clowns in the Senate. Clowns are in the circus. I think we're I think we're dealing with the

House of Representatives today as well not the Senate so... Doo-Doo-Doo-Doo-Doo-Doo-inininininininininininininininin! the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Heyii-a. Heyi-s. Heyi-s. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Heyi-a, thi-s, thi-a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Hey, th. Heyiiii-a, th. Heyi-a, th. Heyi-a, th. Heyi-s, th. Hey, th. Hey, th-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thia. I thia. Sa. I thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, th we're dealing with the House of Representatives today as well, not the Senate, so... Mostly incorrect. Still think about those clowns. So we've had a bit of argy-bargy this week around Australia's horrible draconian asylum-seeker policies. Ben, would you like to maybe introduce us here to this MediVac bill. I would absolutely love to go crazy about it. So maybe just for some context for international listeners, when I see international listeners I largely mean Americans. Yeah, so there are other countries. There are other countries. Yeah, but largely mean Americans.

Yeah, so there are other countries. There are other countries. Yeah, but I mean most of those other ones they generally know what's going on in the rest of the world. So you remember how, I'm speaking to the audience here, you remember how there was a huge uproar because families were being detained and children were being detained in these horrible facilities. We do that all the time out in the open and these remote islands that we are bribing with aid money to run offshore prisons for us and we've known about it all along and both parties have been doing it all along and there are frequent attempts at self-harm. There have been just unbelievable numbers of children getting diagnosed with resignation syndrome which you should definitely Google if you want to make yourself feel horribly depressed. They are these really, really, really

horrible places and our government is doing anything they can to keep them there. Now the medical facilities on the islands, well mostly on Nooos, because we shut down, but we've shut down on the other facilities, but we still have people there, it's's very very confusing. We have horribly inadequate medical facilities. They have a large number of medical staff there. This is so this is a point one of our politicians has made that we have a lot of medical staff over there at a higher rate per capita than we do in the country over here but that's been it's been at a crisis

point for years now and because they're receiving inadequate health care over there what aid groups have been doing has been suing the Australian government to get court injunctions to bring asylum seekers and refugees over to get court injunctions to bring asylum seekers and refugees over to Australia, mostly to Brisbane for treatment. And this has been going on for ages and oftentimes the government has been fighting it at an enormous expense to the country to stop them from going over here to get the treatment they need.

And as an attempt to address this, one of our independence, I believe, Karen Phelps is an independent. She introduced a private members bill with a bunch of other people to make it so that if two doctors were treating an asylum seeker in detention and they decided that they needed to be flying to Australia to get medical care they could. That was basically, that's the crux of the bill, right? We should note, like, unless you did just know this five seconds ago, we should note that there are people over there who have died but like as a result of having a broken leg? There's, yeah, there are people over there who have died, but like as a result of

having a broken leg? There's, yeah, there's just people who've had a leg broken, just a completely treatable thing where they have fucked up the treatment of these people so bad and neglected, then this guy got sepsis that also then went untreated and they kept refusing to transferred him for so long that I got to to to to their their their their their their their their their, their, to transfer him for so long that I got to a point where they said that this guy's about to die and then they finally transferred him and then he died. So that's the kind of inadequacy of care that we're talking about really. Yeah, and we've had similar cases where people that have had a history of self-harm have eventually killed them, and they've never been given the treatment, treatreatreatreatreatreatreatreatreatreatreatreatreat, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, there and they've never been given the treatment that they actually needed, right? The government's just not providing

it for them. They kicked doctors without borders off the facility very recently. It looks like there are some borders now, geez. Wow. Get what I do. It's a fucking nightmare. Yeah. And so they introduced this bill. It needed to pass through the House of Representatives. For something to pass in the House of Representatives, it needs a majority vote. Our government holds 73 of the 150 seats, is that correct? Anyone? Yes.

So they've got a minority government, but they still, through cross-branches, are generally able to pass legislation. But on this bill, Labour, the Greens, and five of the six cross-benchers, so all of the minus, fucking Dickheadhead Bobcatter, all voted for this. So there was a lot of back and forth, Labor and the Greens want a different thing for it, but eventually everyone compromised and we got this bill. And it means doctors are basically able to say, hey, you have to treat this person and then they

are taken away to be treated. Revolutionary stuff. What a wild idea. Fucking crazy. And the government as a result just fucking melted down. Now I believe, Ben, this is the first time that a law has been passed against the will of the current government in approximately 7,000 years. Yeah, 7, 500.000, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi means thi means thi means, thi law has been passed against the will of the current government in approximately 7,000 years? Yeah, 7,500. As many people have been quick to point

out. Yeah, so people were loving this the other day. And it is fun. First time in, actually first time in 80 years, I think, it was 60... but the difference. 78? 78? 78 years. So everyone was saying... It was 60... the difference? 78? 78 years. So everyone was saying... Everyone was saying that it was the last time the government lost a vote on a legislative bill. One of their own legislative bills was 1929, but as the Twitter account for the House of Reps corrected everyone's actually in 1941. But that was on some weird amendment and 1929 was the last time for a substantive piece of

legislation. So people have been saying that because the government doesn't have, this sort of demonstrates they don't have the mandate or the power to control legislation being passed, that they have lost their mandate, right? that this effectively acts as a vote of no confidence? it should be, I thi th th th thi thi thi, I, I, for thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I the the their their their their thi their their thi thi the last thi thi the last thi the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last thi thi thi thi thi, for a thi, for a thi, for thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi ti ti ti ti ti time, ti ti tiii ti tiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi th lost their mandate, right? That this effectively acts as a vote of no confidence? It should be, I think it's really worth mentioning that on Friday it was pretty, no it was, sorry it was Wednesday, my apologies. It was pretty wild ride where initially there was, I believe provisions in there for compensation

for refugees which made it a supply bill. And if supply bill fails to pass, then it's a trigger for a constitutional crisis? Absolutely. And so there was a lot of sort of back and forth about, oh, what does this mean? Which, I mean, in the end it would have just meant that the election was called a tiny bit earlier than, you know, the almost, you know, now that's been called, kind of deal that we're in now. But, um, yes, there was a lot of kind of hullablow about it on the day. Yeah, but the solution to that was they decided that the doctors that sit on the panel will not be paid. So there was no money involved in it, so it's no longer a supply bill which averted all of

that. One of the fun quirks of this was that it almost didn't make it through the Senate after it had to go back there because of all the amendments because of the infamous pedophil...inch, which meant we got to experience the fun series of words Darren Hinch receives emergency security briefing. It's just yeah he's a talk show host who somehow became a politician that's wild. But, but as as many shit moves as Hinch has made over the years when he was presented with the information around this thing, despite the fact that the government's, the that, the the that the thi, the that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeean theeean theeean thean thean thean theean theeeeeeeean the the the the theeeeeee the the inch has made over the years when he was presented with the information around this thing, despite the fact that the government were already lurching into like full bore scare campaign mode about this saying, they were saying things ranging from, we're going to reopen Christmas Island because we think there's going to be

so many more people smugglers coming here now because of this law being passed. They were saying, oh if people can get bought over to Australia to be treated when they're sick then it means that all these pedophiles and rapists there will be claiming they're sick so they can get bought over and they'll be coming into the country. They're still saying this by the way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way the way the way the way the way the way their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their sm. their sm. their sm. their s s-s. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tie. tie. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their. their. their. their. their. their. their sick so they can get bought over and they'll be coming into the country. They're still saying this by the way like Mattias Corman said exactly that yesterday. And and and Hinch said that's not what the law says though that's not what this law says this law says that if somebody is like a you know violent offender or if they are a convicted criminal or if they are you know a suspected security risk or whatever then they can't come up like it's in it's in the legislation

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of the door for all these criminals to come in. And this is the line everyone is taking, right? So Matthias Korman said exactly the same thing. Michael McCormick is saying exactly the same thing. The fucking, the deputy leader who, every time I hear his name, I'm like, oh yeah, course he's the leader of the nationals blah blah blah if you ask me next week who is the deputy leader of the coalition and the leader of the national party I'd be like I couldn't tell you I have no idea he's the most forgetable man alive but he's pushing this line there's a really great clip which I've forgot to send you in advance. Oh, I can play it now if you would like.

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This is going to be able to get spivs and rapists and murderers onto our shores. We want people to come to Australia the right way. We don't want them to come through some via backdoor way that Bill Shortness put in place how will it allow rapists and murderers to come here because the bill says serious crimes would be a deal breaker and there's no one. The bill weakens. Is there anyone there now that you know is a rapist? The bill weakens our borders. But you've got to be factual as well. I'm sorry, like you're saying rapists and murderers will be allowed here. They won't be allowed here because the bill says serious crimes would preclude that. That's wrong what you said.

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threat to national security. And if the minister rejects them on those grounds, it cannot be appealed. They just cannot come over. That is it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's thrown is if they have a substantial criminal history, and if that is the case, that also cannot be overruled. That's it, that's done. They have been rejected flat out. So there is basically, the point they're making that criminals will come over is fucking insane, because their own bill says that it can't. And so as they've been getting push back on this, they've sort of tried to get into these real their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their thi, thi, thi, thiole, thiole, thiolk, thiolk, thiolomea' thiolomea' thiolomea' thiolome, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe toe toe tooooooooooooooooooooooooooomuuuu. toe been getting push back on this, they've sort of tried to get into these real crazy weasel words about it

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Well, and they could also probably throw it on the AZO provision as well. The point there is that there's this tiny little wiggle room where maybe someone had the, they've been convicted, but they've somehow they've somehow, they've somehow, they've somehow, they've somehow, they've somehow, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, their, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, thi, thi, thi, is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, they've been convicted, but they've somehow escaped before the sentencing hearing. The thing about this is, is there are roughly 1,400 people in detention. You know, there's a tiny, tiny fraction of those that will have major criminal convictions, and then you do that percentage work again to be like, well, which ones would have been convicted but not sentenced, and it's basically no people. I was talking to a friend of mine who's, he does some reporting work at the ABC, and he was saying that Dutton keeps bringing up an example and he has literally one person

that that implies to, of all of the people there, but they're trying to use this as their excuse for, oh well, these are the criminals we're talking about. There's literally one guy. They can point to one guy and be like, it's him. He's the one we're talking about. That's the crime man. That's the crime. Which is nuts. So this is not the only way that are going to use this as a way to get into Australia, right? Because everything they do is all about saying it doesn't matter what happens.

If you come here by boat, you will not be settled in Australia. Right? It just will not happen. You will not hit Australian soil. So Tony Abbott, he has said that the new label rules mean people could get on a boat, get to NARU, get sick, and get to Australia. Making no mention of the fact that the new law did not apply to new boat arrivals. This law only applies to the current cohort. That is it. It does not apply to anyone else. But they have been out there, they've been on the fucking radio, they've been thethe TV, they've fitted the papers saying that all of this shit is going to happen, and then

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In The Guardian where she was interviewing Scott Morrison. And the point basically came down to, so what you're saying is that if more boats arrive, it's because of Bill Shorten, but if no boats arrive, that's because of your good work." He's like, yes? It's so good. She's like, do you not see the problem with holding both of those viewpoints at the same time? And he's like, no, because it's true.

The way she's written, it is so beautiful. Asked how we could say if the boat arrives, it would be taken to the government, Morrison said, because that's true. Because that's true. Because that's true. Just like year six debate club shit from our huge Photoshop shoes Prime Minister. It's nuts. There was, so the, right, the whole thing is there like no one is coming to Australia, we want to stop people from coming to Australia. A fun thing is that Christmas Island is an Australian territory. So by announcing that they're opening up Christmas Island to move them there when they anticipate all of their extra boat rivals, they are moving them to Australia. The, this is another thing that kind of blew my mind mind to to to to to to to to to to to to them to Australia.

This is another thing that kind of blew my mind, just that this is a title that exists. Here is a quote from the ABC. But Shire of Christmas Island CEO, weird title, David Price said he did not see how the legislation would open up a flood of boats coming over the horizon again. He also said that the island did not have the facilities to deal with the thousand asylum-seeker arrivals and transfers. The number he said had been suggested could be sent to the reopened detention center. We've got a hospital but it doesn't do operations. People are medivacked out quite regularly here for medical reasons. their thou' thi th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too-a-a-a' too-a-aul-aul-aul-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-aul-a-a-aul-a-a-aul-aull. the the the the the the the the the thia. thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuua-sa-sa-sa'a'a'a'aua'auaua. tha. tha. the capacity here to deal with people coming here for medical reasons, both physically and mentally. They'd have to be airvacked off to the mainland Australia, and if that's the case, why wouldn't we airvac them off to the

mainland in the first place? For the life of me, I just can't see how we would be able to handle that. Just the whole, I mean, apart from what I think, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th think, th th think, think, think, think, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the, the, thr, thr, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr, thr, thr-a, to, to, to, to, to, tooooo.a, too. thr-a, thr-a, thr- which is the just how brazen the lying is about this, like I know, I know that they're politicians and blah blah blah, but the extent to which they have just said, ah, this is a, you know, this is a border security issue, and we've got the selection coming up, and we just need to go absolutely hell the leather of this thing, and the suggestion that everybody is going to die if, you know, this bill gets passed, or as a result of this bill getting passed. The extent to which, like you said, they've had all of their ministers out there just telling flat-out, bald-faced lies to journalists.

And to be fair, I feel like it's not actually that often that you see what's been happening this week, which is journalists turning around to them and saying, that is not true. The thing that you are saying right, like those clips. Especially on Sky News. Well, yeah. If you can't get a good reception on Sky News, you've really fucked up, I think. There was daytime. It's daytime, yeah, that's right.

They sweep everyone out at 6 p.m. It was daytime, Sky News. And like, you know, we've played clips on here before of like when David Spears was interviewing that guy in the run-up to the Victorian election about that coal yeah about their powerful policy and he was just like I don't know which is extremely good but yeah like like that like that they're getting called out on it but it also doesn't stick that I don't know I'm sure people that are very online would have seen that there was a transcript floating around of Catherine Murphy from the Guardian just straight up saying to Scott Morrison

look a bunch of your senior ministers have been straight up lying how can this happen and he just brushed it off and the same with that clip from Michael McCormick he could not have hammered at home anymore. There's another clip there as well where, so it's Kieran Gilbert and Laura Jayes. Yeah, Jay's, yeah. And they're both like, no, no, no, no, no, the text of the bill says that that can't happen. They keep repeating to him that the other doctors can't override the second and third exemption criteria and he's like, oh well, you know, they could if they really wanted to and they're like no no no no the bill says that they can't

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untrue and I think that generally speaking we don't really see a lot of that in Australian politics I don't know if that is partly because you know very, well, let's keep our fingers crossed, but I think we're all assuming that they're going to lose the next election, in which case it probably stops being so much of a concern, access journalism-wise, to say, hey, you're very clearly just clutching its drawers and lying to people at this point. But also, I mean, what Catherine Murphy was asking about in her question to Scott Morrison was, you know, we understand that currently it is a huge problem in Australian life that there is just massively eroded trust in public institutions, especially politicians. Like people just have completely lost all faith in, in the their their question in, in her the their question in, in, in her the the the the their, in, in, in, hey, in, in, hey, hey, hey, in, hey, in, hey, hey, hey, in her, hey, in her, hey, hey, in her, hey, hey, hey, in her, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, their, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the th, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, the, thi, thin, th, especially politicians. Like people just have

completely lost all faith in the ability of politicians to do anything in any kind of good faith. And you've got all your senior ministers out here telling flat-out lies about this stuff all week. How can you not feel that you are partly responsible for that you know for that coursening of the discourse and that erosion of trust? and it was like, uh, that's not true. That's not that's that's that's that's not th th th that's not th th th th th th th th th th th th th thuiiat thiat thiat that that thiat thiat the theat theat theat theat thiat thiat theat theat theat the the the thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thiat thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thia for that coarsening of the discourse and that erosion of trust? And he was like, well, that's not true. We're all doing good stuff. But I don't know, I wonder, like, you have to wonder when you see stuff like that, every now and then you kind of go, you get a little glimmer of hope and you go, Are all the journalists going to start doing this now? That'd be really good. It'd be really good if people were doing exactly that and just holding up the bill and saying

the language of the bill that is law says that that cannot happen. You are lying. Yeah. Unfortunately, that's not a rhetorical question and the answer is no. Yes. But it's nice to think, you can dream. Yeah, we have dreams every now and then. that. that. that. That that. that. that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's thiolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliol- that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thatto think, you can dream. Yeah, we have dreams every now and then. So I suppose that kind of leads into what happened today. Before we move on to that, actually, there are two things that I'd like to say that are positive as they're coming out of this mess, right? Because most of this is just very frustrating and upsetting. The good news is that so far, up to 300 to to 300 to 300 the to 300 thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi, thi, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's so far up to 300 people is the figure that's being thrown around,

but they've basically already had the forms ready to go in advance. They've had two medical practitioners and they've already submitted their request for this and they will be, for the most part, getting that medical treatment soon which is very good and this also represents a massive erosion in labor's position on offshore detention in general I think just from there's a personal gut feeling about this I think if anything represents labor starting to crack about this I think this might be it. Again we can hope we're about to come in and knock that one thin, tho' that this? I I I I I I I I that that that that that that that this? I that that this that this that that this that this that that that this that that that that this that this this thoes this that this. And this this. And this. And this. And this. And this. And this. And this. And this. And this this. And this this this this this this this this this thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their that that theeeat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theeat theeat theeeeeee. the th about this, I think this might be it. Again, we can hope. Are you about to come in and knock that one down again for you? No, no, I'm sorry, I was going to say one more thing before we move on.

Just I thought it would be very easy and quick to mention the AFR reported this week that apparently the government contractors that run Manus won the contract in a no tender process. They were the only group consulted. Oh, I believe it was a...I believe it was a...Prienter process. the tendon process. That's right, very, very similar the way that a an unknown company ended up with 400 million dollars for the Great Barrier Reef. They have won 423 million. Hmm very very close numbers there for two years of contract work on on Manus. This is a company registered to a

beach shack on Kangaroo Island. Just great stuff. We spent $1,600 per refugee per day to be on the island instead of in society being taken care of. So... Just a side note, how much are those Paladin employees on the island paid per day? Oh sorry, the hourly rate I believe it was that was flagged in the article. I don't know. Was it $2 an hour I believe was the number? God, really? So... Yet somehow we're spending $20 million a month with them. Yep. Cool. Very above board. You mentioned the very similar numbers Theo. I think please feel free to write into the show and tell me if I'm wrong. I think it's like amounts under 500 million

dollars don't have to go through the same scrutiny. Oh yeah it's like when you go to dinner and it on the business credit card and it comes in under $500 million don't have to go through the same scrutiny. Oh, yeah, it's like when you go to dinner and it on the on the business credit card and it comes in under $80. It just sort of. You never had a business credit card? No, I'm kind of just picturing a world where that might occur. I've, uh, the secreting my way into having an expense account. My boss listens to this show. So, Scott, if you can the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi's thi's thiolui's thiolome thiolome. th. thiol-I's thiolome. thiolome. It's thiolome. It's thiolome thi, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to. Uh, to. Uh, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. to. to. Yeah, to. S. to. to. to. S-s. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to, to, to, to, to, th. S-s. Yeah, th. th. account. My boss listens to this show, so Scott, if you can make that happen. Friend of the show, Scott, I mean he just he just buys me lunch and dinner or whatever whenever we go out anyway so it's practically the same thing. I definitely do a small hesitation before

bringing up my wallet if we're getting drinks for the both of us because I know he's got more the money than me and if he offers first I'll take it. Anyway, love your babs. So like we said, relatively historic defeat for the government here, like massive, massive humiliation basically to be unable to do this and as Ben... They love it. There's little piggies, little piggies love to be humiliatedto do this and as Ben... They love it. Love it. There's little piggies. Little piggies love to be humiliated in front of everybody.

And as Ben suggested, it's like dangerously close to having the governor general step in and say, oh you're not actually in control of a government anymore, territory. Because as is the case with all of this stuff, they are constantly only like one or two votes away from losing any given thing. So as a result of this, they only scheduled something like six or eight sitting days for the first however many months of this year, which again led people to say, so you're not going to call an early election, but you're going to deliberately schedule as few sitting days as possible in order to reduce the risk that you will not lose votes on your own legislation or on things that other people are trying to do.

That's weird. Why don't you just call an election if you're like so scared of losing these votes that you would rather just not be in the building. And then today we had an even more farcical extension of that, which is on one of the very few sitting days of Parliament that the government has scheduled for this year. They basically just filibusted for the entirety of question time, and then they extended it and continued to extend it until it had gone past the point where I think they could, I think, I'm not clear on the specifics, but I think it was about being able to have a vote on something from the Senate, basically, or debate a vote on something from the Senate, which was that

they were trying to get a vote on having, on setting up a royal commission into abuse in disability care. One of those things, why would you, why would you want to do that? Why would you want to help all those people who've been fucking horribly abused in institutions? So, basically, today they had the longest question time since Federation. Oh wow. Yep, the longest one that there has ever been. The previous record was like 160 minutes or something I saw? No, 120, no I don't know.

So they went for several hours and deliberately extended it so that they could push past the point where they could be, you know, forced to answer questions on anything. And it was just hours and hours of the government asking its own members Dorothy Dixers, which again for the international audience. Dorothy Dixer in question time is just asking a friendly question to a member of your own party. Just a softball question, basically for them to... Well, your own party just just a softball question

basically for them to well how are you doing such a good job of managing your portfolio it's that kind of question yeah oh could could you possibly list your top three successes at being great at the government how did your muscles get so big tell us aboutthat. Yeah. So, which I realize thinking about the start of our own podcast is probably not a great example. I did want to hear about how your muscles are getting so good. They'll get bigger. They will get bigger. So, so yeah, basically, historically long question time done solely for the purpose of just burning time

so that they would not be forced to debate an actual thing and risk losing a vote on it. A thing of substance as well. I think that actually matters and again this brings people back around to the question of so you can't be in control of what laws get past and what don't. so, so you, you, that, so, you... tho, you, so, you... thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, the thi, they, the they, they, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they, they, they, thi, ti, tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. time time, time, thi, thi, thi, their th of. So you can't be in control of what laws get passed and what don't. So you don't schedule any days and then on the days that you do have to sit, you deliberately run out the clock so that no legislation can be debated on one of the only single-digit sitting days of the year. It sure sounds a whole lot like they don't even want to be in government. Like, I think, you know, Bill Shorton said something today in one of the very few times

that I'll approvingly quote Bill Shorten. And he said something along the lines of like, you know, when you're not actually willing to come and sit, then you are no longer, you are no longer in government. You are no longer governing. Once you reach this point of just, we're going to do everything we can to avoid even being in the room. It's fucking wild. And I know I've said this before on this show,

but the thing that I absolutely do not understand is why not just call an election earlier? Why not just I'd like I've heard people say, you know, I'm sure it's just for Scott Morrison's vanity so we can just try and you know ring up the numbers on that how many days he was prime minister for because we all know he's fucking getting drummed out and he's gonna go down history as one of the shidiest accidental PMs of all time. But even that just makes me go like, if this is the situation that you're in, losing votes, scheduling single-digit sitting days, and then just running out the clock when you are actually in there. Like, people can see this shit.

People can see it. The news is talking about it. You know, like they're splashing these headlines and like humiliating historic defeat. And like, that people are talking about this shit. I just don't understand what they think is to be their, like, they think is to be the thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, h th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, h thi, hi, hi, humiliating, humiliating, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, talking about this shit I just don't understand what they think is to be gained by prolonging this in any way like do they think that that suddenly something's gonna come good for them and they're gonna get a big bounce in the polls right before the election? Well, well they might be using the secret. Maybe they're just thinking positively about it.

Might be getting their vision boards together. Yeah. POS vibes, you know? You get the energy back that you put out into the universe. That is so true. It's true in radio and it's true in life. As are all things. Radio is a microcosm of life, yes.

Yes, yes, people come together and also things fall apart. That is the way of all flesh. Oh, damn. Well, that's just about going to do it for this week, I think, folks. We did not even get time to get into the insane One Nation drama, so I guess that's going to have to go on the Boners episode. I think so. So we look forward to that.

It might be on there. Hmm. I think it will. We got to get into the sexual harassment scandals. So if you would like to get bonus episodes, if you eventually figured out what this episode was about, then you would like to hear more. You can go to Patreon.com forward slash Buonto Vista and sign up for only five dollars a month, get yourself an

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talking about franking credits, talking about credits frankly. But in the night time, the beast begins to rumble. I have a few suspicions in my mind of particular friends, wives and lovers of the show that might well be horny instigated. Maybe, certainly horny George is an outlier, far more hornier. It should not be counted. But the thread simply became too horny. I quarantined it to its own thread. That thread became just astonishingly horny. Almost immediately. And so I had to close that down. I feel like the steam was kind of blown off, so to speak. And people get back to their normal healthy lives, as pastors, the teachers.

Are you talking about some sort of horny purge? We are. We, look, it's not quite a horny purge, but we are doing a trial run, okay, to understand what such a purge may look like. And possibly what such a society without sex afterwards, um, utopia as that might be, might take formats. So that's part of if you if you pay five dollars you get access to the discord is basically what we're saying. Yes you want to if you want to see what

it's not what that horror show is all about. If this sounds great to you for what we've just described it's exactly what it sounds like. If that sounds horrible to you, it's nothing like what we've just described. It's completely different. Very different. We are exaggerating or lying. Yeah. Thanks. It's just hyperbole man. I'm just yanking your chain. Don't lighten up. Just having a tug of your crap. I'm just... Tuning your horn, my friend. Take her easy, pal. Thanks, folks. We'll see you on the bonus episode, or failing that, we'll see you next week.

Or if you just really didn't like the show and stopped listening ages ago, we'll probably never... Well, they had to listen to the whole hour to work out what it was about because we didn't announce it. And if you stop listing ages ago I feel like this part might be lost on you. So true. Hey everybody, see you next week. Bye. Good night. Oh. Morning. Good morning. Good morning. For a good day. you