Boonta Vista - EPISODE 94: Hilux In Tenebris (Featuring Riley Quinn)

Episode Date: April 15, 2019

Andrew, Lucy & Ben are joined by Riley from TRASHFUTURE for a Brexit update and a look at the first week of the Australian election campaign including casual racism, yelling at a disabled candidate and being incredibly scared of electric vehicles. Find Riley on Twitter: https://twitter.com/raaleh Listen to TRASHFUTURE: https://trashfuturepodcast.podbean.com/ VOTE FOR TRASHFUTURE FOR THE BRITISH PODCAST AWARDS https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Bonta Vista episode 94, creeping up on the Big 100, at which point I believe we get a phone call from the Queen. I'm Andrew. I'm joined of course by Ben. Hello Ben. Ben is feeling sprightly this morning. He got a lot of sleep. He didn't drink too many beers, and that's great news for everyone.

Yeah, I think it would have been like, just throwing out as a random example, but if I had been drinking since 7.30 yesterday morning and then got home at 1.30 this morning, I would feel like fucking absolute garbage and just pure shit but that's definitely not what happened so I actually feel really good and like vital healthy I definitely don't wish I was still asleep well that's great because that'll be a bad example for all the kids are listening to the show

it would be horrible a lot of teens out there, hey, guys, stay in school. Bad example for all those 10-year-olds who tune in for the latest news about Bigfoot's dip. It's still there. That's the update. Still swinging. Still swinging after all these years. Joining us from across the seas in one direction. Is Lucy? How you doing Lucy? Hi, I'm good. I would love if we had like 10-year-old fans. Like if some 10-year-old stopped me on the street and was like, oh, I love Buntavista,

the rule. Oh, my god. I love when you guys, um, when you guys do the relationship section about grown men who can't clean all the shit off their asses. Yeah, dump him, sweetie. Dump him. Oh dear. And even further across one ocean or another in one direction or back this way and all the way around, geography is not my strong point. We are joined by a beloved friend of the show returning guest and co-host of the Trash Future podcast, it's Riley. Hello.

Yes, I'm across several different seas, but I think if Brexit continues going the way it's going, I think England might have to move to the moon, but we shall see. Oh, now of course this is a thing that we are, that we kind of wanted a little update from you about, which is, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, the trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, the the the the the the the the the trash, the trash, trash, trash, trash, tre, tr. tr. tr. the the the the tr. the tr. tr. tr. tr. the tr. tre, tre, tre, tre, trash, trash, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, trash, the trash, Now, of course, this is a thing that we kind of wanted a little update from you about, which is, what's the deal with Brexit in it? That's the segment. That's what we're going to call it. What's the deal then? I mean, what would be even more incredible than you guys having like 10-year-old fans who love all like the nature stuff and the sort of, you know, Australian political analysis would be that if you like became a respected Brexit commentary podcast, I would really be here

for that. Well, just a bunch of Australians getting really interested in like the parliamentary arithmetic of the indicative votes. Well, see, this is the problem is that this would require us to have, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the sort the sort the sort of the sort of the sort of the sort of the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, like, like, the, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the parliamentary arithmetic of the indicative votes. Well, see, this is the problem is that this would require us to have like even sort of a fundamental grasp of what's happening and where it's at. I think when we had your colleague Milo Edwards on the show and he gave us a bit of a talking to about Brexit, which as soon as you learned about this, you said, oh, no, you let him on to talk about Brexit, without their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, th. And, and, and, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. the th. thi. thi. thin, the. to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. th. thee. thee. th. thee. th. th. the. th the. th to about Brexit, which as soon as you learned about this, you said, oh no, you let him once talk about Brexit without me there to moderate his views and yell at him for being wrong? To be fair, I was probably going to be immoderating his views.

We're like, no, the European Union is an institution of capitalism. It must be fought at every turn, but it also should probably be stayed in by us because Brexit is basically a product of the project of the far right. Hmm. How else are you? What's the chain of pubs that the doodones? Oh, oh god, yeah, Weather Spoons. How's the Weatherspoons guy going to get richer without Brexit? I don't, I mean, I don't know, he needs to continue getting a lot of money to keep doing what I assume is expanding his face by about an inch every year. The man has an enormous face.

How will Jacob Riesmog be able to legalize the human fox hunts that he wants to do on his property? Well, you know what happened actually? Because now, what's the way that the chips have gone down, because the chips are now down, is there is a new, new, new, new party that's been formed to sort of defend and pursue Brexit in the vision of the Jacob Reesmogs of the world. It's called the Brexit part. No, I think it's called England forward or Brexit party, whatever. I can't remember what it's called. But his daughter, a nunziata

Reesmog, is running as a member of an MEP. Fuck off. A real, like, I've never heard a name that so clearly says to me, you know, of the people. Really, working class folk. What people often forget about Jacob Reese Mog is that he's one year younger than Marilyn Manson. Like, oh my god. But in fairness, he looked, he looked like he was the same age as Marilyn Manson is now when he was fucking 12 or whatever. You can find that old picture of him.

Oh yeah, yeah, he's wearing a monocle and the people he's wearing his shoes are just out of frame. There was a profile in, I want to say it was in vice, maybe in vice, like during the sort of 2016. We did ketamine with Jacob Reese Marb. During a, during the US election election campaign there was a profile of a guy of like an Australian teen who was a big Donald Trump fan and there's all these pictures of him like you know reclining on a leather sofa in like a five-piece suit.

I can picture this man very vividly I remember him. Yeah. Oh just an absolute like a really weird looking unit in exactly the same way as Jacob Riesmog has that kind of, has the Habsburg chin and all that sort of stuff. This picture of him literally wearing like a top hat. He looks like a fucking idiot. Yeah. Yeah. But it's the same thing where it's like, I'm 13 and I'm talking about how I would like to demonize the poor and also I look like a 90-year-old man.

Some people just have that flavor from the get-go and Jacob Ries right up there. Oh, he's a slender man for sure. I'm pretty sure. I know I said that thing about how old he is, but I'm also pretty sure he's like ageless. He sort of sprung fully formed from like a cartoon in Russia in the Soviet era. He's a USSR cartoon basically. He's interesting, but I actually find more interesting Mark Francois, who is an MP from Essex, who like basically his whole thing is like my dad was in the army and I won't be afraid to literally fight Germany if they don't give us the Brexit deal that we want. It's like basically these guys now

are just like praying for war because I feel like I've said this theory before and I'll say it again the sort of intellectual leaders of Brexit are basically a bunch of guys who were boomers who were born too late to have fought in World War II and were too old to have played a lot of first-person shooters and so they never really had a purpose or a great battle in their life and they're just thirsty for glory and so the biggest thing they can do is try to fuck up Britain's relationship with a trade block. Yeah. Feels like a problem that could be easily solved

if someone just introduced them to paintball. Well, a lot of, a lot of, sort of you might say, a Facebook-style Brexiteer posters. So like, you know, people's aunts and so on. Now we're actually starting to believe that Britain did leave the European Union on March 29th because like a piece of legislation was signed improperly. And my, so I think, yeah, good, let them. Well, that's the, um, I feel like that's going to have the same sort of outcome as like the people who, the people in the states who convince themselves that like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, as like the people who, the people in the states who convince themselves that like technically taxation has never been legal. It's unconstitutional and that's why I'm not paying my taxes until I go to prison for five years like Wesley Snipes.

Yeah, so basically it's a circling back slightly to update everybody here in Australia on how it's going in the UK. Hi, things are basically fine, sort of for now, where we basically, we were supposed to leave the European Union on March 29th, and then, because everyone who voted to leave the European Union basically voted for like an imaginary great thing. It's like, it's, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, um, what was this? It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi. sort, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, th. It's, the, the, great thing. It's like, it's like your, it's like it's, it's, it's, what was this?

It's like the opposite of the, of the, of the gom, jibar, and dune, where it's like, it's just, it's the perfect thing that you always imagine, and it's directly tailored towards what everyone wanted. So like, the classical, the, the, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,, yes, it will turn us into a free trading paradise. And the sort of overt racists were like, finally, we can get rid of everyone who is not white, somehow. And they all just were able to dream about what it was. But then, when the wave form collapsed and like, it actually had to be worked out what leaving the European Union meant.

They were like, yeah, we negotiated a deal, basically we lose a lot of money and don't gain much of anything and in fact don't really take back any of the control we were so interested in taking back because we still need to like align to the European Union for most things about trade because of like they're right there and they're quite rich. They're like ah well now that this is real it kind of sucks and so no one could vote for anything like the to w a majority for any form of Brexit, including revoking Article 50 and just staying in the European Union, having a second referendum. Like there is no majority for anything. Nothing. So that's kind of what I've been, you know, I'm seeing from the external point of view,

is because it's not a thing that I follow super closely. You know, when Milo was on, I sort of remarked on it as, there's all these different things going on in the world, and apparently my brain selected Brexit as the one it does not have bandwidth for. No, fine, good. That's true. Because every time you look, it is another series of like,

ah, Theresa May has lost another sequence of 35 different votes on things that her own people put forward. And yeah, so just everything that gets offered up at every turn, people look at and go, oh it turns out this is actually really bad for us like it was going to be the whole time that refuses to vote for it. So it's not the thing that I, it's not the thing that I fantasized about. How dare you? Because this is this whole thing, it's like Teresa May, A, her approach to governance has basically just been to step on rakes every day since she was made Prime Minister. She's stepped on a record number of rakes. It's great for the rake industry though. Yeah, big rake is, pardon

pardon the pun, sweeping in the cash. Thank you. So, but the interesting thing is like all of these, all of these outcomes, every single one of these outcomes is ridiculously unlikely, but one of them has to happen, which is very strange. Can I confirm another thing though, which is a thing that I think I wasn't very aware of? So something that people talk about in Australia with like a problem with, like a problem the problem the problem the problem the problem like a problem the problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem like a problem with like a, which is a thing that I think I wasn't very aware of? So something that people talk about in Australia with like a problem with our electoral system or something that pisses them off a lot is that we don't have fixed parliamentary terms. There is kind of a window in which an election has to be declared.

And so depending on what's happening politically, often governments can either rush or drag things out depending on their particular fortunes and trying to make specific things happen in time, all that sort of stuff. And a lot of people look at that and say, hey, this sucks and we should have fixed terms so that people just have to do this thing at a certain date. My understanding is that the UK did that one or two terms ago and that in turn is what is now leading to this situation where what would normally be happening if a prime minister was putting up piece after piece of legislation and attempt to get a deal over this thing and everybody was rejecting it at every turn is they would say, you know what, this is totally fucked, I can't get anything done, let's declare an election, someone will get

voted in, that they will actually have some sense of, you know, some mandate for what they want to do, all that sort of thing, but she can't do that because they're on fixed terms now.. th tham fact, you can see this whole thing as like an implosion of the British Constitution that was more or less done by David Cameron for almost no reason. Or like more, moreover, it was done by David Cameron as a series of favors to some of his sort of friends and colleagues. Because he did two things. When he was, first when he was elected in 2010, we passed the the the the the the the sort of friends and colleagues. Because he did two things. When he was elected in 2010,

we passed the Fixed Term Parliaments Act because he was like, ah, I'm in coalition with the Liberal Democrats. I don't want to risk being outvoted. And so the Fixed Term Parliaments Act was passed in such a way that it would have been, at that time, in that it would have been at that time in that parliament basically electorally impossible to overthrow him through a confidence vote or and a confidence vote meaning like the failure of a piece of legislation like he basically it basically David Cameron was just like like when you're playing a game of

like a tag as a kid and there's clearly the guy who's just making up all the rules as he goes along like no actually I can't be I can't be it if I'm touching the tree and it's like wait I didn't know about that before he's like yeah look it up look it up in the rule book and he's just scribbling out the rules so basically David Cameron governed like an improv class for the Lib Dems in that particular situation to unseat him. And he just didn't really think it would have any kind of impact, knock on impact, like say, the shredding of the British Constitution, such as poorly defined as it is. And then, by basically creating a mandate of, like a referendum mandate to like take some huge change,

which again, not something that we do frequently, but also rendering the British government unable to change in as much as it's not been able to act out that referendum properly. Basically, David Cameron, through sheer incompetence, but also self-dealing has broken Britain, or at least broken the British government. Like a lot of people have broken Britain, like different parts of Britain for a while. It's a pretty fucked up place. But this is particularly, this stands out to me particularly,

as the kind of Oxford, Itonian overconfidence, that leads to just, that leads to, you know, quite a large deal of fuckery. I mean, the thing about Blair and Brown, you love them or hate him, and, you know, I tend to the latter, is that like when they would go on retreats with their staff to like the checkers or all the various country houses in which most of English, like policy making place, they would like, theymea would thi.............eee, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the. the. the. the. th. th. would like sleepless nights working constantly, they'd come out with some policies that would suck, but they would at least have put work in. All Cameron ever did was like drink pims and play croquet because the whole point of conservative governments is like to sort of roll back the state and just govern shitily. And so this is sort of that particular chicken coming home to roost. Yeah, and um, I wonder as well. L. the they they they thly, thly, thly, th, th, th, th, th, th, they they they they they they they they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they they they would, they they they they they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they would, they would, like, they would, they would, they're and I wonder as well... He called it the true-ocracy.

I wonder as well... Literally it was called that. Jeez. I wonder as well what is the chance here is that like, what he's sort of inadvertently wound up doing is making it so that like the the Tories are now just getting absolutely shredded over time where, you know, all that's

happening because they can't actually pull the pin and say, look, this sucks and we're not getting anywhere, we would like to limit the damage as much as possible. Let's just call an election. If we get thrown out, we get thrown out and then it's somebody else's problem. Whereas they can't do that, they just have this never-ending series of rake-stepping failures and like the public is seeing all of this. Oh yeah. So yeah, like, you know, is there the chance basically that the impact for the conservatives

there is going to be so much more worse than it would have been if they had have just been able to say look This is this is going very badly Call an election labor will get in they'll be the ones who have to deal with all the Brexit stuff People will remember it happening on their watch or whatever, you know instead people are just seeing them fail over and over and over again and getting sicker and sicker of it. It's cool. So do you think that this will contribute more significantly to them either being thoroughly defeated at a general election or even being in the political wilderness for generations? I'm pretty, I'm looking forward to the conservative party becoming the Whigs, you know, or like the free soilers or like the Whigs, you know, or like the Free Soilers, or like the Silver Standard Party,

like one of these weird, old, outdated political parties that was around for like the 19th century and was just based on like the corn laws or whatever. I'm very much looking forward to that. But I think one thing to remember, right, is that they basically see Jeremy Corbett as an existential threat to them. So like, they would never never never never never never never never never never never th never th never the the th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, like thi, like thi, like thi, thi, like thi, like thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. theee theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee theee thi. thi. thi. thi see Jeremy Corbyn as an existential threat to them. So like, they would never, under any circumstances, ever risk getting rid of power. I mean, the 2017 general election was just a massive rake step because Theresa May just thought that because labor was polling poorly, she could shore up that majority. Right, like, they would never risk giving labor the reins, especially because like, they don't agree on what they think Brexit is anyway.

So like, a lot of them still think it's a good idea. A lot of the country still does think it's a good idea. Like, if there was a second referendum tomorrow, I'm really not sure what would win. Now, if it was a second referendum of remain, of, the of because May's deal doesn't allow you to like imagine that everything will be great like it was in the 70s and your dick will work again and you'll have hair or whatever it is that they voted for. But you know I do think that would that would go that way. I mean the thing is also to remember right is that with the with their other with the, before the fixed-term Parliment act like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. thi, thi, thi, the, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, with their other, if you, before the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, like an election would automatically happen if a party, like, was defeated on one of its main legislate, like platforms, like main, like, main, like, star pieces of legislation, they'd be, but,

they could make it a confidence vote to try and force their MPs to vote for it, whatever. And then an election would just happen. They wouldn't be like, the election, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, they.... their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, oh, well, they can clean this mess up. Like, no, like, they, British, because Britain's like an elected dictatorship, basically, if you have the support of your party, which ordinarily you do, it's, you never, ever want to like give an inch of power to anyone else, especially because like, labor, a labor conference policy is pretty clear, like the strategy is to maintain an alignment with the European Union, how that gets, taken the the the taken the the th taken, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like th gets, like the strategy is to maintain an alignment with the European Union, how that gets taken forward, whether that's like staying in the Customs Union and the single market, which would basically change nothing, or some other kind of agreement that the EU has already said they're open to. It's less clear because labor hasn't really

had to have a position because they're not in government. They just have to keep challenging the government and allowing the government to tear itself to shreds, which again, they have been doing very impressively. It's like one of those cartoon fights where it's a great big dust ball, with sort of fists and boots and tatter bits of suit coming out of it. Well, this is probably a good point at which to segue to our own domestic politics and our general election that has just been called, because there are kind of similarities for us. In terms of, we have a conservative government currently, a conservative coalition government

who seemingly don't actually have the confidence of the full party. They've lost enough seats due to like people being constitutionally disqualified because you know the great-granddad was born in Greece or whatever. We have that weird string of things there and also people who have, you know, quit or been forced out due to scandals and that sort of stuff. So they have a small enough majority now that they're really struggling to get their own legislation passed, which as you said, at a previous point in time, if a government was sort of at the end of a term and didn't really have the parliamentary authority to

get their own pieces of legislation through, generally an election would be called. People would go, well, we don't really have it happening here. We either need to shore up this majority or get the fuck out of here. But much like you're saying about the conservatives there, they're also completely unwilling to ever, like, canvass the idea of ceding authority to the Labour Party. So they've been desperately dragging this thing out for a while. While at they, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, the the the the the the their, well, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, thi, thi, they, they're thi, thi, we're thi, we're they're they're they're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not they're not they're not they're not they're they're they're they're they're they're, we're, we're, we're th. We're th. We're th. We're th. We're th. We're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thei, thi, theiiiiii's thea, thean, theiiiiiiii, thei, we're not the, weeding authority to the Labour Party. So they've been desperately dragging this thing out for a while, while at the same time, seemingly being on the verge of like existential obliteration, because the party itself has been like internally rending over whether or not they are, you know, a hardcore right-wing conservative party

or whether they want to be, you know, a moderate small-el liberal party. So a lot of the stuff that they've had to talk about recently has all been culture war stuff. It's all been opposing same-sex marriage and freaking out about, you know, doing anything at all to mitigate climate change, all that sort of stuff, which is in turn massively damaging them with their own voter base, who, you know, some of which are just small business owners who want to be free to put the boot to workers, but also actually believe in climate change, stuff like that. And they are also partnered with their junior partner in the coalition, which is the nationals, who are basically the country party.

They represent a lot of rural electorates. And the only thing that those guys have been doing for a generation or two now is making sure that mining conglomerates have all the rights to bulldoze and drill the fuck out of every bit of land out of there and not actually doing anything for farmers for years and years now. So they are also getting destroyed at elections. There's like massive swings against them everywhere and it kind of thinks like there may be on the verge of, like I don't think it'll happen, but like they might they they they they they they they they might they might they might they might they might they might they might they might they might they might they might they might, they might, they might, they might, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their their thi, thi, thi, their their thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.-a, thi.-a, thi.-a.-a.-a. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, there's like massive swings against them everywhere, and it kind of seems like there may be on the verge of, like I don't think it'll happen, but like they might even be on the verge of if they get destroyed hard enough, will there be some massive reckoning inside the Liberal Party to say are we a hard

right party or are we smaller liberals and there might be a splitting of the coalition between the liberals and nationals, all that sort of thing. But one thing's for sure, it's going really badly. So Prime Minister Scott Morrison, he has announced an election and it's not going great in these several days that the campaign has been running, right Ben? Yeah, it's not been great. There's been a, there's been a few flubs, a few stubbed toes. I mean, I think there's one. There's one little re-stepping territory yet or how are we doing? Oh, we had a great rake step yesterday which was this tweet from Michael Cosiole from Fairfax who has been on the on the campaign trail with Scott Morrison now like we said he's he's been on the campaign trail for

I think two maybe three days now. It's not very long to have stepped on several ranks. And we got we got this one just yesterday this tweet from Michael Kozio are the perils of the campaign street walk. Scott And we got this one just yesterday, this tweet from Michael Cosio. Are the perils of the campaign street walk? Scott Morrison says, NiHau to an Asian voter in Strathfield Plaza. She responds, I'm Korean. Oh God, it's so bad.

And like apparently, Apparantly Stratfield has like a massive Korean population and the vast majority of like the restaurants and stores and stuff that are Asian owned are like all Korean. It's very, very much like a Korea town type place. But no, all, you might actually find that all Asian people are Chinese. It's just such a weird thing to do as well. It's not like you'd like, ah, a white person.

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Australia and the sort of 19th century, that this is all sort of cultures mixing for the first time. I mean, the other thing I think it shows. And this is something that I think of a lot for here as well is that, and this is going to even goes back the chemocracy thing is like right wing and center right wing politicians seem to just to just to just to just to just to just th. th. th. th. to just just just just just just just just to just just just just just just to just just to just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just to just just just just just just to just to just to just to just to just to just th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. goes back to the chumocracy thing, is like right wing and center right wing politicians seem to just be riven with this overconfidence that I can just walk up to someone and I can start just guessing what language they speak based on a quick glance. I'm not even going to Google the area I'm going to politically campaign in. I'm just going to wing it. And I mean, it causes them to step on quite a few rakes.

And like, if they weren't, you know, the parties of established capital power, they would have been like booted out for breathtaking ineptitude quite a long time ago. It's like they're just kept there to taunt us with their shittiness because it's like it doesn't matter how shitty I am, capitals on my side. So the other thing that's happened that has been making the conservative government here just just monumentally short-circuit is that Bill Shorten's labor opposition has said that a policy that it would that it's going to take to the to the to the to the to the the to to the the to to to the to the to to to to to the to the to to to the the the the to the the to thoen.a thoen. thoom. I thia thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's t. It's not ty. It's teean. It's not just just just just just just just matter. It's totean. It's totean. It's just just just matter. It's not just matter. It's not just matter. Itthat a policy that it would, that it's going

to take the election is that it would aim for half of all new cars produced to be electric by 2030. And we work with the industry to lift car emission standards. Sorry, I hate to drop to you. No, no, no, I think they announced, they're going to build a giant claw machine and then it's it's going to drop down and if you've got a high lux it's going to grab your highlux and it's going to take it away from you in the dead of night. I think that's that's the policy that they announced is that big the big claw machine is going to drop down smashing through the roof of your garage taking you know a hundred thousand dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars dollars the the the the the the the the the the th I I I I I I I I th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. I tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm they're tho. I'll tho. I tho. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. they're they. the the. thousand dollars off the value of your house and property. They'll drag the highlux out and they do it in the dead of night out in the street where all your neighbors can see they make an example of you

first they Molotov cocktail, they firebomb the car, they let it burn out in the street and then the big claw machine picks it up and drags it away to throw it into a big landfill of charred burned out highlux corpses. And my understanding is that that'll happen the stroke of midnight as we enter January 1st 2030. Yeah the the instant the election campaign is over. I think like as as Bill Shorten is declaring victory you can see all the big claw machine cranes revving up behind him, black smoke pouring out of the menacingly. Yeah, and me, that was a weird policy to announce. It's a little tone depth. It's a bit strange.

Especially because he was like, no, this is for all, this is in support of all the genders. I'm destroying all of the gas guzzling highluxes to stop global warming, but also it's for genders. For all of the various genders. One highlux that removed is one more gender that exists. One more, one more letter on the LGBT acronym. So I learned, I learned through this that the Toyota Hilux, you know, which is just a utility vehicle, is Australia's most

popular car. I don't know, we've got one. Oh, there you go. Well, I'm Mike and not for long. Not for long. Not for long. We're burying it, digging a very big hole in the backyard and keeping it wrapped in plastic and safe down there. So there's been a range of reactions to this, right, which have all been extremely funny. Because again, in the global scheme of things and the extent to which Australia has completely abdicated any and all responsibilities on the world stage for doing extent to which Australia has completely abdicated any and all responsibilities on the world stage for doing anything to curb our emissions over the last six, eight years. Since, as soon as Tony Abbott got in, they repealed the, you know, relatively moderate carbon price stuff that we had in place.

And as soon as they did, our emissions shot back up and passed what they were before it came in. So now... Australia is number one. That's right. We're number one. And like per capita, yeah, we are massively, massively polluting. But, you know, I'd like this, this to me is not a particularly, not a particularly ambitious thing to say, oh, we will introduce, you know, very mild market controls to kind of push things in the direction,

that they are absolutely going anyway. This has produced... It seems weird to try to do that with cars as well. It's like, yes, by 2030, we're hoping that half of the cars are electric, but at that point, most of us are going to need boats because quite a bit is going to be underwater already. Like, it seems like applying a band-aid to someone who is already dead. Well, it's also a thing that is very much supported by all of the liberal voters who are just rich people, because they all have incredibly expensive waterside property. And there are all the sorts of people

who would love to spend a shitload of money on a fancy Tesla. So that's one of the areas in which there is like this real sort of division in liberal party voters at the moment is there are a bunch of people out there who have a lot of money and hate poor people and taxes and everything but also they're like I also think that this stuff is real and wouldn't mind if the government had like some semblance of a policy to address it you know so this has produced these reactions that have been quite simply marvelous. Here's a clip, here's a clip for you. an an an an th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th has produced these reactions that have been quite simply

marvelous Here's a clip. Here's a clip for you Of Michaelia Cash who is the what is she the minister for small business and shit? Sure. I like her name the ability of conservatives to just add extra syllables and silent letters is just's just, it's all, it always impresses. And only New World Conservatives do it. They don't do it in the UK. But like, you can, if someone's called, should be called, called Michaela, which is the normal name, but they toss an extra syllable in there.

You know that they don't think climate change is real and that they think prison islands are a good thing to have. Now you might love her name but you're really gonna love her voice. So this is she's doing a campaign appearance alongside Scott Morrison and she's right up there as far as like as far as conservative politicians in this country who I think really really pride themselves on just being attack dogs, you know. Adherence to reality is not a requirement. What is required is that you get in front of a camera at every opportunity and talk about how, yeah, Bill Shorten is revving up the great big crane machine. So this is in the wake of this, she is in a,

what are we talking about? She's in a mechanics where there's a bunch of cars, you know, up on the big lifts behind her, and some extremely bored mechanics standing behind her, not at all interested in what she's saying. Scott Morrison's air smoking away. As Michaela Cash details what is about to happen to the very men standing in the room with her. Here we go. And in fact this morning we met Johnny. Johnny has been here for 30 years. This is the only job he has ever had. He started as an apprentice and his son has now joined him in this great family business, also

undertaking an apprentice. But what I worry about for people like Johnny is that the car he is driving today, if a labourer government is ever elected will not be the car he is driving tomorrow. In fact, if you look behind us at all of these apprentices here, 50% of those apprentices will be driving an electric vehicle under Bill Shorten. We are going to stand by our tradies and we are going to save their yutes because we understand choice and that is what Bill Shorten is taking away from our trading. What does this mean? I love a nice measured response to a proxy.

Get this, they're going to have a different car under Labour. Fuck! Yeah, the immediate suggestion that, like Ben said, you know, at the instant that Labor wins this election, they're going to immediately send out the car police to confiscate everybody's vehicles. And like... What, we don't understand is that, if you're going thi, thi this this this th th this th th thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, th thi, get thi, thi, th th they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th th th th th th, get th, get th, get th, get th, get th th th thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, thi, get thi, thi, they're, get thi, they're thi, thi, get thi, get thi, get thi, thi, they're going to immediately send out the car police to confiscate everybody's vehicles. And like, what we don't understand is that if you're going to work on fixing an electric car, you actually have to wear a tampon. Absolutely. A government supplied and inserted tampon. Yeah. Yeah. If you're going, if you're going to get up under an electric car, like, you know, like driving under Bill Shorten, because also he'll get very

big if labor is elected. It'll be very, very large and he'll be striding across the length and breadth of Australia, directing his army of cranes, and you'll be driving under him. Yeah, you do have to have to put on a tampon and you do have to sort of, you have to sort of be lying forward on a bed, kicking your feet back behind you. Again, it's the gender thing. For every hyalix that's destroyed, one of those mechanics will be assigned a new gender. Like, just the ridiculousness of it, like, it just bears absolutely no relevance to like the reality of what's being spoken about and immediately turns into all of the, these generations of

proud highlux drivers will be deprived of the opportunity. To drive the highlux? What is the negative here? I'm very confused. Well, I mean, the highlucks is a beautiful car. But, uh... I mean, they, there's another issue with this, though. There's another issue with this. Is the Toyota, Toyota has immediately come out. Well, they've immediately come out and said, oh yeah, we're going to have an electricthey said, because that's the way everything is going to work. I'm trying to find who figured this out, but one of the Ospole journalists found that

the Liberal Party is already doing targeted, like micro-targeted ads for your, like the specific make of car that people have. So it's like, they want to take away, Holdenutes. They're trying trying trying to thrying thying thki thki thki thki thi th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. tho, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thin, tho, tho. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I's, tha. I's, they want to take away holding you'd they're try to steal your fucking Mazda BT 50 like it's fucking their bonkers they're just so like yeah now now would you like some more really good statements about this finance minister Matthias Korman who I believe he's... What a name! Well, he's from Austria, and he sounds exactly like Arnold Schwarzenegger. He does.

He actually does, like it's a thing that people make jokes about, and then you hear him on an interview, and you go, oh, okay. Finance Minister Matthias Korman said that the government liked electric cars, but that did not mean that Australians should be compelled to buy them. I like ice cream, and I buy ice cream, but I'm not proposing a law that says 50% of everybody's food has to be ice cream, he said. I happen to think that Brussels Sprouts is an amazing and very healthy food and I happily eat it regularly, but I'm not proposing a law that 50% of all food that Australians consume must be Brussels sprouts. Okay, okay. That's a perfect

analogy, completely relevant. Thanks for the update, Matthias. And of course that's exactly what's being proposed. Yeah exactly, it's because, again it's, externalities aren't a thing. The whole world is just consumer preferences. So really what's happening is just, it's just, they think that electric cars are nice and they need you to be nice and they're legislating you being nice. But no, you have a constitutional right as an Australian to be a dickhead. Well, there is a lot of, I mean, apart from the fact that this is personally, this is one th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th a dickhead. Well there is a lot of, I mean apart from the fact that this is personally this is one of my absolute favorite types of argument which is to take the issue completely remove it from any context in

which it exists and is relevant and then apply it to something completely irrelevant and say, see you don't like it so much now do you? You don't like it so much now when it's about something completely different. Can I have a glass of water please? What if you were drowning in water, would you want water then? You would like that so much? Well, water's not sounding great now, is it? Ah, you like drinking a glass of piss down in front of you and you had to drink that. You wouldn't like that so much? Well, water's not sounding great now, isn't it? What?

So there's that whole type of argument, which I really love. But it does all come back to this idea that there are, there are like, the more, what are supposedly the more moderate liberals within the party have joined this attack and by by more moderate liberals we mean raging libertarians and they have joined this attack by of course deferring to the the classic and completely true position that has been born out over and over again which is hey we're all going to have electric vehicles sooner or later and the market will sort that out. The market will sort out when that happens everybody's everybody's going to do it and it's fine electric vehicles are happening and that's the way that it's

going but the market is just sorting that out for itself and we don't need any kind of market controls or government intervention because that's happening just fine and as we all know we can all the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the the the. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to thean to thean to thean. thean thean. thean. thean all know, we can all look at all of the evidence around the world of the market responding and stopping using, you know, profitable combustible fossil fuels instead to just very kindly, kindly switch over to things that they don't actually have to or be forced to do. Well, that's good. Well, that's good. Sort of. There is another slight issue with this whole thing. Oh, sorry.

Here's one more for you. Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Sunday said that electric vehicles were unaffordable and, quote, are not going to tow your trailer. It's not going to tow your boat. Bill Shorten wants to end the weekend when it comes to the policy the the the the the the the the the the to to to to the to to the to the to to the to the to boat. Bill Shorten wants to end the weekend when it comes to his policy on electric vehicles. Oh boy. He wants to take away the weekend. Bill Shorten is going to walk into every BCF with a baseball bat and destroy all of

the tents and all of the fishing rods. It's going to walk him to snap every fishing rod over his knee.. When. When. When. When. When. I. I. I, the the to. I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the to, the to, the the to, to, to, to, to to to to to the the the to to to to to to come to come to come the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to come, when, when, when, when, when, to come, to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come the the the the the the to come to come, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, towe, come come toe, come come toease policy toease policy toea, come come come toeconomic toe, come the the the the, come the toents and all of the Eskys and all of the fishing rods. It's kind of walking it snap every fishing rod over his knee. I and of course if there's one thing that we all know it's that a it's the lifelong union member and former union leader would love nothing more than to end the weekend. No Bill Shorton appears to be ending all of Australia's TV time all at once. Yes, yes, that's it. Well, I mean, they've also talked about, um, about the people are all subs. They're absolutely all subs. Like, they're whole, all of their fantasies are just about, basically, their ideological fantasies

just about, like, getting dominated by Bill Shorten, the world's most like, milktoast an ineffectual man, who I remember from only once from having like, bought a very large box of cereal on father's day. Other than that, maybe it's more that he's a very small man and the box looked very big. Oh, it's even better. But like, it's a, it's, it's even better. They love inventing stuff to get terrified about, and the fact that they're all terrified of Bill Shorten is just a constant source of delight.

You won't be able to watch married at first sight anymore because Bill Shorten's going to tie you up on a chair in the corner of the room and you'll only be able to eat when he comes in and says you can eat and he's gonna twist your nipples really hard. You all want to get dumbed by Bill Shorten. Bill Shorten's gonna pay pig you. That's the future they want. And he's gonna go out to work and he's gonna leave you there tied up all day with a raging broner that you won't be able to touch. touchch. to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to to to to the to to to to the to tothat you won't be able to touch. Oh, I hate this.

Oh no, don't crush my car in front of me, Bill Shorten. There's nothing I can do- Don't take away my high locks, no. Oh, you're telling me I can't leave for the weekend. I've been a bad conservative. So there's there is another very fundamental problem with the line of attack that they have chosen here. When they say things like, it's going to end the weekend. For example, for example, a liberal party advertisement running on Twitter, shared by Energy Minister Angus Taylor on Friday,

derides labor leader Bill Shorten's statement that electric vehicles could be charged in eight to ten minutes. The ad claims that in fact, quote, electric cars will tend to charge between about 8 and 9 hours overnight. So, you know, they love, they love telling people that, you know, oh, it's going to take your whole weekend to charge your car up and you won't be able to go anywhere. However, in immediate release in October last year, Mr. Taylor said, electric vehicles, quote, will soon have access to an ultra-rapid charging network thanks to a $6 million federal grant. The ultra-rapid charge will provide a range of up to 400 kilometers in just 15 minutes, compared to a charging time of several hours, Mr. Taylor said. Electric vehicles have the potential to lower transport costs,

enhance fuel security, and increasingly create more sustainable cities with less pollution and better health outcomes for our communities. So the problem with this is that electric vehicles have been one of the only things that this government has been willing to say are a good idea and they support because it's one of the only like completely passive means that they have for reducing emissions without interfering in the market in any other way. So it's been really undermined, it's really undermining their criticism of the policy that they have spent millions of dollars encouraging Australians to use those vehicles and their MPs very frequently do photo opportunities where they pull up out front of Parliament House in an electric vehicle and get out and go,

Tesla's awesome and they should build a factory here Mr. Musk. And like their policies, I really like this particular part again as far as just being pay picked by the government. So you know they've got this massive freak out about electric vehicles. From this report in the Sydney Morning Herald, official analysis by the Department of the Environment and Energy has suggested that electric vehicle uptake in Australia would be identical under the policies of both Labour and the coalition. Energy Minister Angus Taylor, however, insists that Labour's strategy is unsound,

despite the government's policy potentially achieving the same result. So we're doing identical things, we're doing them identical ways, but the other one's bad because labor. I think the big difference is a different size claw between the two parties. That's really, that's the thing that makes Labour's one particularly bad. It's a huge claw, really quite big. The coalition let you kiss the high lux goodbye. They let you have a few minutes with it.

It's a little like free willy moment just before it's destroyed. Goodbye, pal. Yeah, they let you just sit quietly in the car and play total eclipse of the heart on the stereo by yourself for five minutes before you have to get out and say goodbye. Oh. So it's all going great. There's been another incident on the campaign trail, which I think really reflects how in touch with people in the community the coalition is. So I don't know if you know who Peter Dutton is. Right. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There is. There. There is. There. There. There. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is the the th, th, th, the th, th, th, the the th. th th thi th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the to the the the the thi the toda today today the tote today the tote. today the tote. to to to to to to to to to to to really reflects how in touch with people in the community the coalition is. So I don't know if you know who Peter Dutton is right? I well there's the thing my only exposure to Australian politics is your show so I'm well not comprehensive then so I'm familiar with the name and I'm aware that he's like a cop from North Queensland? Yeah, yep, he was previously a Queensland cop. He did, and that he did a lot of, um,

racing people up on islands. Um, sort of, like, a lot of sort of like 19th century, um, fantasy, racism of being locked up on islands and, you know, being imprisoned on the high seas and all this. Yeah, he's basically turned, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the escape, the the the the the the their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he. He. He. He. He's, he. He's, he. He's, he. He's, he. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th high seas and all this. Yeah, he's basically turned escape from Absalom into a real thing. Yeah, good. Good, we're on the same page. And if you would like to picture him, you know the scene in Lord of Rings? You know I'd like to picture him? You know the scene in Lord of the Rings where they're making like the uri-o-inurk, where they're making like they're making like they're making like they're making like the the the the the the the the their they're making their they're making their their they're making they're making their their they're making they're making they're making they're they're their they're making they're making they're they're they're they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're theirraqae, the big super awks, and they like pull them out of the ground, but they're

kind of wrapped in like a mucus membrane kind of thing. Are you telling me to imagine Peter Dutton covered in mud and mucus membrane and stay focused on this podcast? Yes, I'm saying that what he looks like is one of those guys, but if they never took like the fleshy wrapping off them. So that's how he appears. He's in my mind. He's a supremely unlikable man. He holds a seat in the electorate of Dixon, which is in Queensland, yeah, Ben.

Yes, that certainly is. It's like northern Brisbane. So there's been a, there's been gradual swing away from from him and the liberals over like successive elections. He attempted, I think a couple of elections ago, one or two elections ago, to abandon that seat and have himself transplanted into a much safer seat with a way bigger margin in favor of the liberals and it didn't work out, so he's still stuck there. And he is in the seat of Dixon with a margin of about 2% and as said he's just an extremely unlikable turt of a man. So I'm going to hit you with something now, which is my personal favorite way to approach this kind of thing, which is

to first give you the bit of news where someone's comments have been described as out of context and to then give you the context. Ooh, this is my favorite. Something like that happened in the UK recently. It was very fun. It's very good. Michael Cosiol, again, says, Prime Minister Scott Morrison says that Peter Dutton's comments on Ali France, who is his opponent in the electorate of Dixon from the Labour

Party, were quote, taken out of context and he was not attacking her on the basis of her disability. Okay. Ready for that context? Ah, hit me with a context. This sounds like a man who pre-drinks a political debate. I'm very excited. All right.

The battle for the marginal seat of Dixon in Brisbane's outer north has already turned bitter as incumbent Peter Dutton claims that Labors Alley France is using her amputated leg as an excuse. Uh, he said, I'm really hoping he'd say crutch. So he said, there are, there are, there are plenty of people with disabilities living in Dixon, Dutton told News Corp on Friday. A lot of people have raised this with me. I think they are quite angry that Miss France is using her disabilities and excuse for not moving into our electorate. So, again, to give you some context around Ali France, Miss France, 45, lost her leg in May 2011.. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. There, their th. There, their th. There th. There there there there there there there there, there there, there are there there there there there there there there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there, there, there there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there there there there, there there there there there there there there there thi. There is thi. There are thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiolee, there are plenty thi there are plenty thi there are plenty thi there are plenty there are plenty there are plenty there are plenty there are there are there are thi, to give you some context around Alley France, Miss France, 45, lost her leg in May 2011. The former journalist was pushing a stroller containing her son through a car park, when an out-of-control vehicle, when an out-of-control vehicle, when an out-of-control

vehicle screamed in her direction. She tried to push the stroller out of the way, but it went under the car, which then slammed into France and pinned her the front of another vehicle. She woke in intensive care days later and was told that while her son Zach had survived, surgeons had amputated the young mother's left leg from above the need to save her life. France has door knocked thousands of houses for the past few months while wearing a prosthetic, but relies on a wheelchair at home. She lives two kilometers outside the electorate, but has had trouble finding a new house in Dixon that can accommodate her specific needs. She's pledged to finish the search and move into the electorate if she snatches the seat from Dutton in May. So apparently she lives like like three minutes away from this electorate but she has a

told her. to say, so Miss France earlier said that she had quote searched high and low for a wheelchair accessible house in the electorate, but anyone who has a disability like mine will know that it's almost impossible to find suitable homes without stairs. Apparently she used $100,000 of the compensation money that she got from the accident to retrofit the house that she lived in and make it accessible for her. She said that she would move to the electorate if she wins the seat the the the the the the the the the the,

make it accessible for her. She said that she would move to the electorate if she wins the seat at the May 18th election. If I'm fortunate enough to represent the people of Dixon I will have to buy a home and renovate it so that it's accessible she said. Unlike my opponent who has nine houses, one of which is one house that has been built to accommodate my disability. Which is really the perfect line to employ them. There's nothing more identifiable than having nine houses and shouting down the disabled. That's just absolutely perfect conservative behavior really. Oh absolutely.

Just such a perfect response. That's like the fucking Anton Sugar putting the fucking cattle thing against the guy's head and just noiselessly killing him. Mr. Dutton's office did not respond to a question about whether Mr. Dutton's comments were insensitive. Now it should be noted that since this point, Dutton has issued a single tweet on his Twitter account saying, I apologize to Miss France. My disagreement with her is around policies that we're taking to the election, which

I think, if you consider that in the context of the history of Peter Dutton, he never apologizes for anything. No matter how grotesque and like explicitly xenophobic and racist, it is. So the fact that he has issued an apology over this suggests that, you know, it's actually, A, having a significant impact B that he has probably been yelled at by Scott Morrison who keeps getting asked about it And see that yeah, there is only a 2% margin in that seat and and he's getting so much flack about this that he's like It's probably not great to be the the guy who shouts at the one-legged lady in our election

So so you know much like former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who is also doing great things out there at the moment, it would be pretty nice, no matter what the outcome of the election, it would be pretty damn nice if Tony Abbott and Peter Dutton got kicked out of the election. Now, there's one additional thing. We need to very quickly try and cover this off this off this off this off this off this off tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho.. To to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to tho, to, to, to, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the thoe, thoananananananananananananan, tho, too, the tooananananan, the the the the the the toa,mea,mea,oananananananananananananananananananan, toeanan the election. Now, there's one additional thing. We need to very quickly try and cover this off. Okay. Now, as we all know, conservatives, very good at satire, very good at social media, very good at communicating with the electorate. Yes, it makes me nervous. There was...

There was better and better at humor. So they announced, there was an announcement recently that there was the formulation of a group called Advance Australia. And they said, we, we are positioning ourselves as the conservative alternative to activist group, get up. Now is get up an international body or is it just Australian? Just Australian. I've never heard of them before. So basically it is just like a grassroots campaigning thing where they put up various initiatives. Activists, yes. Not real Australians.

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And the idea is that they raise money to run people against him and stuff like that. So, conservatives generally feel that this is some sort of extremely unfair thing that is being done to them. And they're constantly trying to form some kind of alternative, which is a problem because conservatives don't really have grassroots support. They just get a lot of money from corporate they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just they're just they're just they're just just they're just th in thi thi thi thi thro thro thro thro thi thro thi thro thi thi thi thi they're just just just just they're just just just they're constantly trying to form some kind of alternative, which is a problem because conservatives don't really have grassroots support. They just get a lot of money from corporate interests and foreign donors. So they announced that they had this thing that was coming out, and then this thing came out. And I would like Ben to try and explain the concept and the execution of this thing to you. Okay, to you. Okay, hit me. All right, so picture a big orange fuck.

Okay. All right. You're walking around the seat of Waringer in Sydney. You're having a beautiful day, just a lovely afternoon, and then this fucker in a muscle suit, a bright orange spandex with an enormous head, and one of those like eye masks, also orange, comes up to you, and he says, Hi, I'm from get up. I love foreign money money and my friends labor in the greens. And that's it. That's what happens to you. So what is this? What do you think is occurring in that exchange?

Um, okay, is this like, um, is this like one of those, like a human statue or a street performer? Is this some kind of like, is this busking? Well, there's no tricks and there's no jokes. There's a costumed mascot type man approaches you and says, get up is good and the greens and labor get support from them and they raise money from people and they spend it doing the things that they say they will do. Wow. Got him.

Got him. Wait, let me read from the script here. All right, so this man, in the flattest monitor and ever, which I hope, actually, let's just play the video maybe. Isn't he American? He is Colombian, I believe. He has revealed. What you need to imagine, dear listener at home, if you haven't seen this, is that the horrible shithead in the suit is very terribly miming along the words that were quite

clearly recorded afterwards. Uh, the visuals are just horrible. The delivery is really what makes this. Okay, here we go. I'm Captain Getup, the Truth Crusader. After 14 years of secret backroom deals, they finally let me out of the office for this election campaign. My mission is to show the world what clever tricks we use behind the scenes as we increase political correctness to manipulate voters to get what we want. Because trust me, at get-up we really know what's best for you. And in this election, what's best for you is actually one of us. Bill Shorten, my father and founding board member of Get-Up. How exciting is that? So I'll be traveling across the country over the next few weeks in the lead-up to the

election, letting you know about the foreign influence and donations that drive us. Our links to the Labor Party and the Greens and independent candidates like Zali here in Waringa. We love, Zali. I'm here to help. What? Is it heavily implied in that video that Bill Shorten has kept his son locked in a room for 14 years? I've finally been let free of a horrible- They've just like paid someone to do this voice over, right?

They've given someone like $10 for that. I believe he's also the person that's in the suit. It sounds it sounds like they just got someone from Fiver to like read dialogue into a mobile phone. It has like also I don't know if you notice this but I only picked it up this time listening with headphones is that there is a weird Bacie rumble to the video like just a just a very low, disconcerting something going on that I was like, is there a truck going past my house or something? And then took my headphones out. Just the video. Also a highlight from the footage that I didn't notice before is he's like standing in front of a ferry terminal handing out flyers or whatever, but he's sort of like kind of getting in the way of people. And there is a woman just like ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha like like a th like a th like like like a th like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the there is a woman just like hauling ass try to get to the ferry

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someone? How soon do they get sued for doing this thing and also like how soon does the Australian Electoral Commission get tipped off about the fact that this person is putting the putting the logos of political parties that they expressly oppose and then claiming to speak on behalf of them as they go around and confront voters in the street. Well, let's go back to the... Oh, no, I think the deal with a lot of this sort of stuff, like whether things are satirical, whether things are defamatory, all that sort of stuff, I'm no lawyer, I'm no legal scholar. But I think a lot of the time the test that is put to these things is,

would a reasonable person conclude, you know, that they are speaking on behalf of this organization or whatever, there was somebody, somebody tweeted thed thed thed thed thtweet they they thtwee they thtwee thtweeeated at the Captain Get Up account and said, hey, they posted a photo of this scrunched-up flyer and they said, hey, my 11-year-old son was bailed up by this fucking Captain Get-Up guy this morning and filmed and talked to as though he were doing an interview with the news. But then he showed me, it was very confused about what was happening and then he showed me this flyer and I was like, oh this is some bullshit. They said maybe don't pretend that you're the news and the

official account replied and said nope he was interviewed by the ABC the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and they went, no, you were there. You were there and you spoke to my son. And they replied again and said, nope, he was interviewed by the real news and there wasn't anything to do with us. How do you know? He's like, you were there and handed this flyer to my son that I present to you now. So like, so the extent to to which to which the extent to which the extent the extent the extent to which the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theyroonyonyonyonyonyonyonyonyonyony.yreau.yrene.eau. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I present to you now. So like so the extent to which like I mean the

the irony the irony of the fact that that this campaign is intended to show like the duplicitous and sneaky nature of the campaigns run by these other people and they have done that by like attempting to sort of confuse the origins of this thing at every point and misrepresent who they're speaking on behalf of? I think they don't get what satire is. I think they think it's just pretending to be another thing. Yeah, basically, basically. Also, it's conservative overconfidence again. He could have just... Oh, everyone will know what this is. He also could have just, you know, googled whether, basically, th th th th th th th th th th th th thoed, th whether th whether tho, tho, th what tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi tho, thoom- thoom- thoom- thoom- tho- their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the.... Oh, everyone will know what this is. He also could have just, you know, googled whether what he's doing is illegal,

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Like I still look at it and think like, well, I should say, like I said, I understand that what they want to do is damage the reputation of get-up. But what I cannot understand by looking at anything they're doing is how they think the people are going to or are supposed to receive this or interpret it. I genuinely cannot fathom any measure of that part of it. It could be like they just thought that everyone else was as sort of infuriated at all times as them and that as soon as they discover that there are people that are campaigning for stuff, that they're going to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get as their their their their the their the the their the their the thi their their thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their the people people people their the people the people the people thi the people thi thi the people th going th going th going the people th going the people th going th going their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the. We're going theat. We're going theateateat. theat. theat. thi. thi. theateatea. thi. thi. thi. thi all times as them and then as soon as they discover that there are people that are campaigning for stuff that they're going to get as mad as we are.

Like you just have to tell them that get up exists and then of course they'll get mad. How dare you campaign for stuff? Well it's a whole thing though I think a continuing thing in Australia where conservative politicians have this really outsized hatred for get-up because they genuinely seem to think that it's like an unfair advantage that progressive groups are able to just raise money and support from normal citizens. Like they genuinely seem to think that that is like, you know, unbalancing the playing field in an unfair way. That, oh, well, yeah, well, you guys are talking about things

that like people actually want to happen. How's that fair? Like, they just, yeah, and they seem to think that this is like tipping the scales in some horrible way and it should be noted that this is this is only the latest in a string of like you know conservative it's never it's never really made clear where the money for these groups is coming from but it's the latest in a string of attempts to build a counter to get up. The one before this was a website called the Fair Go, I believe. Already offline.

Already offline. And it was basically somebody just attempting to make a, like, Huffington Post style website to the extent that they had very clearly just ripped off like the design, the layout, the branding. Everything about the, the, the extent that they had very clearly just ripped off like the design, the layout, the branding, everything about the Australian version of the Huffington Post website. They had ripped all of that off and then were just filling it with, like, they were sort of attempting to write articles in the same sort of tone about like, hey, everybody loves cutting tax rates for medium-sized businesses.

Am I right kids? And shockingly, people didn't really get behind that. So that one collapsed and now we're back with the very, very confused Captain Getup. So I'll be keen to see, like, if anything actually comes of this if the if he if he like the fair go just kind of stops existing at some point Or it would be even more delightful if The captain get up who winds up in court. He's up there in the dock. He's still got his head on Testifying You know what this reminds me of?

This happens in the UK all the time because, like, you know, are you familiar with momentum? Not the concept of the group. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like the grassroots labor support group? Yeah, like the grassroots labor left group that's like quite involved in pulling the party to the left. The Tories keep saying, ah, it's unfair that labor have momentum. We need to make a Tory version of momentum. And there have been like eight.

And they've all been embarrassing failures immediately. Like, turning point, UK, as well, but the original tory momentum, because they were like, yeah, it's unfair that turning point UK as well, but the, the original tory momentum, because they were like, yeah, it's unfair that they get to campaign with memes. We have to campaign with memes. And it's, this is insane little bit of reverse causality, like, people like momentum because of the fun memes and not they don't make the fun memes because they're like excited about the the output from these groups..... the, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, like, th, like, th, like, like, like, like, their, their, like, their, like, their, like, like, like, like, like, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, their, yeah, their, their, their, yeah, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, thi, their, their, their, it's, their, it's, their, it's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, their, the fun memes because they're like excited about the policies. No it's means. It's it's they only like people only care about the output from these groups and not the basis for their existence. Not the fact that they actually have like policies to speak to that people are interested in and think might benefit

them in some way and it's the same thing with it with the get-up stuff in Australia like the reason that they exist th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. thi the thi the thi the thi the the thi thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. the same the. the. the. the. their the. their their their the. their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their... their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. the. the is the. the. thean. thean. theateateateateateate. thea. theatea. thea. thean. their their the. their that they exist and are able to influence things is because they say, hey, wouldn't it be good if Peter Dunn got voted out because he's a huge piece of shit? And that's true. Thousands of people say, yes, he is $10. People can all agree with this stuff and it's fine. So you know, they seem to think that because this group raises money and then is essentially able to provide a war chest of funds for independent candidates that run against these particularly loathed politicians, or people in seats that have been like, you know, safe liberal seats for decades and they want to like, you know, get a popular person in there and actually have a good run and, you know,

swinging the seat away from them. They think that it's this like massively, fundamentally unfair thing, despite themselves having a massive fundraising infrastructure, which isn't really going that well anymore, because at the last election, the Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, had to contribute a million dollars of his own money to make up the fundraising shortfalls that were happening because it's almost like everybody fucking hates the Conservatives. Okay, I looked this up because I wanted to give you the facts about activate the Britain version of the Captain Getup. It was founded on the 29th of August, 2017 after, you know, Corbyn, the tour, like, you know, Corb. the the the the the the the the Britain version of the get-up, Captain Getup. It was founded on the 29th of August, 2017, after like, you know, Corbin got, performed

very well in 2017 general election, it was formally launched in March 2018, and then it dissolved in the 31st of May 2018. That's so good. And who's off about eight weeks of just no one replying to anything you're posting online. It formed in the previous August but it like launched in March and then just immediately failed. Immediately collapses in on itself. Because a membership in the group was 500 pounds. Fuck. And what's that messages were leaked between two alleged like officers in the group.

Yeah, I, I, I, I, it's not clear what they, what they were, but talking about gassing the working class and performing medical experiments on them. Wonderful, those classic conservative talking points. Isn't it weird that every time there is one of those controversies of, you know, chat logs being leaked from like, the same thing happened here where it was, there was a thing recently where it was like the young liberals, so the youth wing of the Liberal Party were doing, they were trying to do like campaigning by matching with people on Tinder and then telling them that they should vote telling them they should vote for the conservatives which everybody loves and so they had like a Facebook group going in which they were

They were having this conversation with each other and it was just all of the male members of the young liberals saying oh I matched with another fucking disgusting pig dog and told her to vote for things but I wouldn't fuck her because she was fucking fat and ugly and Then the small handful of conservative women in the group going Why? Why are you doing this? Can you please? tell you please?? thi, thi? th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, and thu, and thu, thu thu thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thu thu thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the, and it thi thi thi thi and it th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that that that that that that that that? that that that and that and that? that and that, and the that, the that, and the that handful of conservative women in the group going why why are you doing this can you please stop saying this and it just going and going until somebody has eventually leaked the chat logs to the to the paper and forced the sort of you know the head of the liberal party to say oh now we have to ask those people to resign because it takes too bad. Not because this is just what our internal culture is, and we would have been totally fine with it anyway, but because it's in the paper now, and we've lost yet another fundraising resource.

I mean, this keeps, it just keeps happening. It's unfair that only happens toto conservative youth groups because they're playing in a disadvantage because they seem to only be able to recruit, you know, closeted white supremacists or other like psychopaths. Which is weird. I don't know how that keeps happening. But how the dang heck does these psychopaths keep getting in my young conservative group?

Now we're just about run out of time here. But, but folks, we have a special plea for you. We have a special plea for you on this day. Our dear friends over a trash future are trying to win an award. Attempting to become an award-winning podcast. What is the name of the awards? So a brief bit of background to this, which is that it's a British podcasting awards and I want to make it clear that I don't particularly give a

shit about being recognized by the British podcasting establishment, but rather I was in I sort of saw that there was a weekend event that was like ah yes the spectrum of political, a festival of political podcasts from all across the spectrum from the center left-left rameaniacs to eight far-right versions of like James Delingpole. So they just seemed to have forgotten that like independent left-wing podcasts exist or conveniently as people frequently do. So basically what we want to do is win this award so we can be like A, fuck you, we do exist, and B, so we can expose a bunch of the stuffed shirts at the BBC to our wild,

1990s brand of in-your-face comedy. It's like, look, you know, when the Looney Tunes became the Lunatics, you know, they became all sort of, yeah, they got cool and, and like, dark and edgy and stuff, we're basically that, and the stuffed shirts can't handle it. Well, I was going to make an Animaniacs joke, but then we're just back to the Riemaniacs. So we're gonna put the link to that in the show description and posts on Twitter and stuff like that. Hell yeah. Let's get a bit of that sweet,

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gradually to an ear-splitting level if they refused to leave the stage. I will cling to that stage with my fingernails. So at four four week BBC staffers holding you by the legs since you grip on to the podium. And furthermore, I am absolutely, here's what our goal really is. It's this is the last year they're going to have a right-in public choice. And we want that to make sure that they know it's the right thing to do to stop having that option. They don't know it yet, but this is the last year they're going to have a right in public

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trash future. Great podcast. And they get a lot of really good guests on there. They're funny guys and we love them all very much. Lucy and I have both been on there. It's been great fun and I'm sure we will continue to to internationally trade hosts with each other in the future. To share podcast partners. That's right. Collective podcasting. Trading. This is the future Bill Shorten and Envisions for Australia is one collective podcast that we're all on. The podcast Polycule. That's it. All right, well, thanks very much for your time, Riley. Oh, thanks for having me on. It's been a blast. Thanks everybody. We'll see you, see you next time. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you.