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Episode Date: April 30, 2019

The crew is investigating the crop of bankrupt, cop-punching candidates that Fraser Anning is fielding at the election for his Big Racist Party. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes... by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2DBCXGA Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Bontaavista episode 96. Coming at you live-ish on this recording that we prepared earlier but has been sent to you and you are now listening to live in whatever space that you are in. But let's not get into just trying to understand the nature of time, things having been recorded before the fact and all that kind of stuff, because we've got the whole crew on deck. I'm Andrew. I'm joined by Ben. Hello, Ben. Hey, I don't know if you had to explain the concept of a podcast. Well now, do you want to get into explaining the concept of a podcast? I just don't feel like the the the the the the the the tha thu thu thu thus thus thus the thus the thus thus thus the the the thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. I the thus thus thus thus thus. I thus. I'm thus. I'm thus. I'm thus. I'm thus. I'm thus. I thus. I the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I've the. I've the. I've the. I've the. I'm the. I'm the the the that that that that that that that that that that that tho that the the the the don't feel like it was necessary. I think most people understand sort of like the order of events that happen. Maybe they do. Very presumptuous of you, that's fine. A lot of assumed knowledge that you're going into this with. If you're listening to this and you don't understand, feel free to at Theo, that's at I and Randy on Twitter and ask him
Starting point is 00:01:23 and he'll explain it to you Theo, that's at I and Randy on Twitter and ask him and he'll explain it to you. Hmm. Also send him an email, Theo at Bundavisor.com. I think that we should just use the labeling that Miranda Divine uses for her show, which is I believe, live internet radio is what is what Miranda Divine first podcast does. Is it live though because that might make the divine first podcast does. Is it live though because that might make the crucial difference in whether or not that makes sense? Well it's live when she records it much like this show. It's live right now.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Anything could happen. It's like Saturday Night Live. Someone could ruin one of the jokes. That's about the worst thing that's ever gone wrong on Saturday Night Live. I don't think like... anyone ever said that that m that m that m that m that m that m that m that m- that might that might that might that might that might that that might that that might that that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might make that might make that might make that might make that might make that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th. th. thi tho tho tho the the the the the the thoooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. thoooo. th. th. th. the worst thing that's ever gone wrong on Saturday Night Live. I don't think like... Does anyone ever said the N-word on S&L? Yes. Well, yeah, but never by mistake.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Yes. They're asking about the N-word is Theo. Hello, hello. Hello. Coming out is from Sunni Queensland, home of the N-word. I don't think we invented it. I think it's on the license plates though. Why would you put it on the license plates if it was. Oh dear. It was weird when we moved from the smart state to home of the N-word
Starting point is 00:02:36 but it didn't seem to make more sense. Hmm. It really went down well with the populace. And coming at us via the big satellite phone from Hawaii, it's Lucy. Hi, just glad to not be involved in the Edward conversation for once. It's nice. None of that in America. So you're all sort of... Not introduced by you or not pointed at you. Uh, rare.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Rare. Oh dear, oh dear. Well, look folks. I know you might be thinking to yourself, uh, mentions of the end words, yikes, that makes me uncomfortable. Well, lucky for you we're only here to talk about Australian politics. And there's no unpleasantness, uh, just upsetting racism, just upsetting racism, constant diatribes by horrifying people. In Australia? Really?
Starting point is 00:03:30 It's just sarcasm. What do you mean, Andrew? I need to use the sarcasm font. Oh. Oh. Slash. Yes. No, of course I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's Australian politics and it's riven with racism, dog whistling, dog bull-horning, dog fog-hawning. Dog air-hawning. Hornied for dogging. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. In the case of Chris Kenny. That's more kind of British.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Oh, Chris Kenny. I see now that, um, that Alice Workman has moved from a buzzf Oh, cut him. Mmm. Good old, Chris Kenny. I see now that Alice Workman has moved from a buzz feed to the Australian, she now is a podcast of talking to Chris Kenny about stuff. No. She's cancelled. I'm so sorry, she's cancelled. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Chris Kenny explains global warming to Alice Workman. Is that a real example? Yep. Cool. Oh boy. Australian media. Everything's perfect and it all works fine. So speaking of Australian media, we had another Fraser Anning press conference and
Starting point is 00:04:46 those always go really well. Whether it's a press conference, whether it's a maiden speech to the Senate in which you describe your intended final solution for immigration. Things are always looking sunny with massive, massive racist dip shit, phrase ranning. Now, I'm trying to remember where we kind of would have left phrase arounding last time we talked about him on the show. I'm assuming you was the egging. Left him egged, yes. Let him be egged. So, since then, he's announced that he's running a whole bunch of candidates in the upcoming
Starting point is 00:05:28 federal election. And he's announced some new policy, I believe. He announced some new policy at a press conference. The press conference, weirdly enough, was attended by some journalists. They asked some questions that he didn't like, so his fans then did things like followed the female reporter out of the venue and back to her car yelling at her about her tits and also got into a punch on with the photographer, from the from the network that she was from. who he, he, he, the thi thi. the the th, th, th, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi he thi the the he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to to the the to the the thee the theeeee their the their the the their the thee photographer from the network that she was from. Who was shockingly ripped. I don't know if he saw the images of the photographer.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Well his shirt was shockingly ripped. All right. Also his body, he was ripped. All right. I'm just saying, if anyone saw the images of the photographer, that guy was cut like a cut glass bowl I don't know if I agree, but we'll let the people be the judge Folks, I'm not really high when I was looking at the photos
Starting point is 00:06:33 I might look at them again if you do see the pictures he was ripped. Thank you. Thank you Lucy. Geez. Apparently Andrews got very high standards for what counts as a ripped Yeah, I just don't know if you guys. th. What does ripped mean? What does shredded mean, you know? Has that guy gone through his cut? Has he, um, has he reduced all of his water content? Like all the guys who are really out there, working hard. Like dear sweet mother of the show, Joss, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Now Joss is ripped. He's ripped and shredded. Yeah. This guy's just ripped. I don't think he's shredded. I don't think anyone's trying to claim that he's shredded. Okay? I bought that up out of nowhere. No one was saying the S-word.
Starting point is 00:07:20 But anyway, look up the photos. Gaze upon them. Yeah. I thoul believe charges charges. up the photos. Uh... Gaze upon them. Yeah. I thought... I believe charges have been laid against the big piece of shit who took swing in him, tore his shirt exposing his ripped body to the community. Anyway, thank you. What's the photo of the guy that did it, of the...
Starting point is 00:07:42 Well, who allegedly did it, uh, thou? of the guy that did it, of the, well, who allegedly did it, he did it though. But the 19-year-old Fraser Raining Sporter who did it, and he's just like staring straight to the camera doing a little shitty smile. This tiny little moustache. It's terrible. There's little, little, just like a hint. Just a ghost of a moustache that moustache that was making th. their th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th the, the, the, th th thi, thi, the, the, that thathea, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the th, the the th, the the thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, they thra, they they thrasheaugh, they, they, the the thra, the the thi, looking at the photos last night, but hated it. Someone should shave that man. Now of the policies that were being announced, I believe that Fraser Ranning posted about this onto Twitter, the tweet seems to have since disappeared. I'm wondering if it got reported
Starting point is 00:08:19 for some kind of reason. Theo, can you read out to us the policy that was announced by Fraser Annie? Well, I know I reported the tweet, but I never got a thing back saying that it was removed, so maybe you deleted it. I don't know. It doesn't seem like a thing you'd do. So he says, today I was at Cranella announcing candidates for New South Wales. As you know, this area is the Prime Minister's seat. And there's been all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort the the th. thiii. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. th. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their is a their is a their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the is a the is a the. theat theat the. the. theate. the. the. theat. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th area is the Prime Minister's seat and there's been all sorts of problems here with the Muslim immigrants who have come here and attacked people. The people of Cranella and New South Wales are very concerned about Muslim immigration and they have every right to. My party will ban all Muslim and black immigration and ensure safety for Australians once more. So you remember we were kind of in the Prime Minister, the Wailidale episode.
Starting point is 00:09:10 We were talking about how he wouldn't say whether he would preference them dead last, wouldn't commit to it or anything like that. I mean they've since committed to that. So that's nice. Have they done? Yeah, I'm, um, well, the Liberal party have, but I know that there are some standouts in in Queensland, of course, who are not yet dedicated to that. So this is the kind of shit that we're kind of preferencing above the Greens, guess who want to... I don't know, it doesn't seem
Starting point is 00:09:48 like it compares. So there are definitely politicians in Australia who's used to their desire to hold power at any and all costs are basically willing to say to the electorate that having at this point open white supremacist policies getting banned about that is as bad as the Greens saying we should have a carbon price. You know maybe we shouldn't live on Hell World in 20 years. Yeah but in an all-white country. Yeah so... Just weird how we've gone from like, Islam is not a race to straight up. We don't want any black people here.
Starting point is 00:10:35 We're just saying that now, apparently. Yep. Yep. It really didn't take long to get from one to the other. And I think, I genuinely think that like Fraser Annings' whole deal is a very, him specifically, not his candidates, his candidates are like the usual sort of dregs of the people that they couldn't get in for like one nation, you know. But, um, but yeah, he's, he's genuinely a very sort of interesting case of just like saying the most awful shit, but just kind of just slowly getting into it like a hot bath, you know, just dipping a toe in. Like leaving the best to last. Well, yeah, just starting off with, oh, I care about Muslim immigration, but Islam's not a race.
Starting point is 00:11:33 To, yeah, this just naked, we want to ban all black immigration. Not even remotely making reference to any specific, like, you know, community, any ethnicity, apparently he clarified and said that he meant the Sudanese community. Which makes it so much better, you know? Yeah, way better. As though anybody believes that, like, that he did just mean the Sudanese community. I think we're all quite aware he would be perfectly happy to ban any and all black people from coming into this country, especially when his recently announced parties, policies do straight up just read like,
Starting point is 00:12:23 we must secure a future for the for Australian children all that kind of stuff very cool very classy speaking of classy he is running a number of candidates with colorful histories we have for example from this story in City Morning Herald by Sally White, The lead Senate candidate for Fraser Annings Conservative National Party in the ACT is a veteran who assaulted a police officer and choked an RSPCA inspector in Canberra in 2015. Shane Van Duren pleaded guilty in the ACT Supreme Court in May 2017 to assault and strangulation. Ooh. That one's got to be, you know 2017 to assault in strangulation. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That one's got to be, you know what would be putting your hand up for that one in court, do you? Yeah, I'm the strangulation guy. I plead guilty to strangulation. It seems weird to me that we have a separate, uh, that's a separate charge for strangulation. To me that's like a part of assault. It's not like he assaulted me and also he slapped me or he assaulted me and then he did a karate chop on me. Those are just kind of parts of the assault. Yeah, I wonder if, um, here we are again the finest legal minds working out the issues. But I wonder if it's similar to like with sexual assault, where there are some acts that
Starting point is 00:13:51 kind of get called out as individual charges due to severity in relation to the act, you know what I mean? Anyway, so he was given a suspended prison sentence of two years and six months, as well as 200 hours of community service. So the offenses occurred when police and RSPCA inspectors were trying to seize his companion dog, a Belgian shepherd, the most racist of dogs, named Kalu, which he had freed from an RSPCA shelter. The dog was handed to the RSPCA
Starting point is 00:14:26 after he was found wandering the streets looking thin according to court documents. After Kalu was taken, Mr. Venduran sliced through three wire fences to let the dog out of the RSPCA's headquarters in Weston. A very normal thing to do to just head on down there and... So when you say he freed it from the RSPCCA? He the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to to the the the's the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the toe is is the the the streets streetseceaeceaeceaeceae is is is is is the the the the the the the the the toa's is is is is is is. is. I I is. I is. I is.S toa's is.S PCCC.S p.S p.S p.S p.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.C.S.S.S.C.S. thea's three is th do, to just head on down there. So when you say he freed it from the RSPCA? He liberated it. He liberated it. I feel like they've just glossed over that point. He great escaped the dog. Well, he put it on a motorcycle and made it jump the wall.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, Hogan's heroed this dog out of her. Absolutely. Yeah, like it wasn't like he went in there and like just barged his way in and grabbed his dog. It was he literally just cut through every fence that was in his way. And we could only assume that he was dressed fully in black, black-faced. Definitely. Night operation, you know, no lights. The kind of short black beanie that like a navy seal would wear. It rolls down into a balaclava but he wanted to do the black face by choice. He only used, you only use the balaclava as a stencil.
Starting point is 00:15:46 All right, when two police officers and two RSPCA inspectors went to his house to retrieve the dog, Mr. Van Duren refused to give him up. The situation turned violent and Mr. Van Duren punched a police officer in the face and choked an RSPCA officer who was holding a can of capsicum spray. Quote, I was only charged with assault because there's no self-defense for police brutality, Mr. Mandurin said. Where is the lie? Where is the lie?
Starting point is 00:16:11 I pleaded guilty because I could have let her go sooner. He conceded. Wow. Woo. Okay. Mr. the situation was exacerbated by the actions of the officers and inspectors., th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the th. the the thi. the their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. the toe. the the th. th. the th.ated by the actions of the officers and inspectors. Yeah, they were trying to arrest me. No, he says no one ever gave me any lawful direction I could comply with.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Mr. Van Duren said the case wasn't relevant to his Senate run, just hand waving away his legal complications. And his dog had been returned to his Senate run, just hand-waving away his legal complications, and his dog had been returned to him. Quote, if no one in the Senate brings a malicious case and steals my dog in front of my children, I probably won't choke anybody there, he said. I feel like probably in that sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting. A lot of hard work from the probably there. I kind of feel like nobody asked if he was going to choke anybody in the Senate before he said this. Well you don't want to rule anything out. I think his main like thing is just wanting to seem consistent on the issues so if he
Starting point is 00:17:20 says that he's not going to choke someone in the Senate and then at a later date he the Senate I could be seeing as you know just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just a just a just a just a just a the the the the the the the their. their. their. their their their their to to their th. the their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their the. their the. the. th to choke someone in the Senate, and then at a later date he chokes someone in the Senate, that could be seen as, you know, just a bit wishy-washy I think. You know? Oh my goodness. He said he had served his 200 hours of community service and wasn't sure if his suspended sentence was still in place. Probably not something you want to stay on top of. He said that he hadn't explored if it affected his eligibility to run for the Senate because the question on the Electoral Commission form didn't ask about suspended sentences.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Once again we've got candidates doing all their homework here. Now they really kind of bury all of the good stuff right of the bottom of this story. He was also involved in his brother Owen Van Duren's escape from a tie jail by sailing on a yacht to Darwin last year. What? What? What? This is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:18:15 He said he couldn't comment on that case. Which is a shame? Yeah, apparently there's a whole other thing you can read about with this guy's brother, Owen Van Duren, being busted out of a Thai jail, and then stealing away on a yacht with his extremely racist brother. So you know, you don't want to tar people by association, but I'm going to assume that's a piece of shit too. Probably. Mr. Van Juren said he was running for Senator Anning's party
Starting point is 00:18:47 because he supported nationalism. Now this is the last line of this story, is this quote. The key points of this election are globalism under an agenda of Islamification or nationalism under an agenda of freedom, he said. Wow. Where's the options. There's some eye-watering nationalism right at the bottom there that nobody has asked him about. I'll be honest, I don't think it's going to be a big deal because it seems like he doesn't know anything about, you what what he's running for anything anyway but also he's totally just gonna get disqualified immediately if he were to get voted in
Starting point is 00:19:30 uh... and also it's the act so he won't uh... i feel like the act is one of the only areas where i can confidently say there is no way the white nationalist guy is gonna get voted in that's nice you want to have at least one place where that's true. At least one place, you know. Yes. This election is going to be a nightmare. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Fraser Roundings is running all of these candidates and, um,
Starting point is 00:20:00 and yeah, they're all literally the people who were like two shit for one nation to run, or two disqualified for one nation to run. Now some of the, some of the, uh, friends of the show and legal minds basically said, oh, well, if he's got a suspended sentence in place then yes, he is absolutely disqualified. Also he doesn't even know if it's still in place and he's running anyway. All very good stuff. There is also another candidate that he is running in. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Oh, in Bendigo. Now this person might get voted in. So, Farright, Senator Fraser Rannings candidate for the Central Victorian seat of Bendigo says that she has been, quote, illegally and unlawfully declared bankrupt. What? Defending her decision to nominate in contravention of section 44 of the Constitution. Former Bendigo councillor, an anti-Mosk activist Julie Hoskins' Australian Electoral Commission nomination form shows she has ticked the yes box in relation to the question, are you currently an undischarged bankrupt or insolvent? Ms. Hoskins' answer raises
Starting point is 00:21:18 questions about why the Commission has allowed her to nominate, given it is illegal for undischarged bankrupts to do so under Section 44 of the Constitution. A spokesman for the AEC told the Australian the Commission, quote, has no legal power in this case to reject the nomination. An excerpt of Miss Hoskin's form supplied to the Australian shows she has also provided an answer for the supplementary question, if yes, please provide any relevant details. I am not insolvent and should not be a declared bankrupt. This is an injustice and a wrongful decision, Ms. Hoskin has written.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I have been illegally and unlawfully declared bankrupt. Well, that'll sort it out. You're going to like elaborate on that? Or like, how can you be illegally declared bankrupt? I don't know how bankruptcy works. It sounds like something from Monopoly. You know it sounds fake. Oh well apparently in in her case what had happened was that she she had it was one of the people who was like taking the case to try and stop a mosque from being built in Bendico like all the way to the High Court.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So they had been legally trying to stop a mosque from being built in Bendigo that had you know followed all of the correct planning applications and permits and all that sort of stuff. And the only reason that a bunch of people in Bendigo were objecting to it was because it's a mosque. And they they don't want Muslim people in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to their to their toigue were objecting to it was because it's a mosque and they don't want Muslim people in their community, which of course is not a reason for a thing to not be built. But it was a whole thing for quite a while. I think there's quite a community of shitty racist anti-Islamic activists there, who, I feel like there's a lot of people from there that they bus in for like the racist rallies in Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, she was part of that whole thing and at every step of this legal case they've been told, nope sorry you're allowed to build a mosque. Like you can't you can't you know have have one whole type of person drummed out of your community because they're a religion you don't like get the fuck out of here. And so they've kept taking it to higher and higher levels of the court and at every stage they're getting rejected and told, cool, now you have to pay costs for the other people.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So, you know, they have like over $600,000 worth of legal fees that she has to pay, which she can't, which is why she is now an undischarged bankrupt. Right. So it sounds like the issue kind of took care of itself then? Yep. Sounds pretty legal. Hmm. And of course she can nominate herself for this thing and she can run and then if elected
Starting point is 00:24:15 she will be immediately disqualified much like the other guy who still has a suspended sentence going. So yeah, he got a two and a half year suspended sentence at like the end of 2017 and he was like oh I don't know if it's still in effect I haven't looked into it. It's like well it happened less than two and a half years ago and nobody's told you otherwise so... I know we've commented on this before that there's like a whole world of relatively normal people and we're relatively normal people
Starting point is 00:24:50 and we're just sort of walking around doing like relatively normal stuff and then you have the Fraser Ranning Party or you know One Nation or whatever these backwoods parties you want to choose and all I have to do is assemble a handful of people that haven't committed significant crimes against dogs or the law or an RSPCA worker. Like the bar is, it's right down there as far as just selecting a bunch of normal people who can be elected technically if they get the votes. And this is what you get. Yeah, they can't even assemble a team of people
Starting point is 00:25:30 who are eligible to be elected, let alone like electorally feasible. You know? Miss Hoskin has failed to return repeated calls from the Australian, but Senator Anning said she had fully disclosed her situation. She marked, yes, she didn't try to hide anything, Senator Anning said. Uh-huh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Uh-huh. Miss Hoskins' case is similar to that of former W.A. One nation turned independent Senator Rod Carleton. Oh yes, baby. He's back, by the way. He's trying, well he's trying, isn't he? He's trying. But he is still an undischarged bankrupt, so he still can't run. He's also, I think, been referred to the AFP for referring to himself as a senator when
Starting point is 00:26:16 he is not. That's so good. Yeah, if folks, if you're not aware of Rod Coulton, we used to talk about him a lot on the show when he was still popping up everywhere, but he was somebody who was elected on the One Nation ticket and then defected and turned independent when he couldn't get along with Pauline Hanson as everybody who is elected for One Nation does. And then due to various, like 44 disqualifications was ejected from office, and then he just continued turning up at the Senate for like months afterwards. It's just everything he did was perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like he got, he got removed because of Section 44, but by something that happened before he was about to get removed for another Section 44 thing. So he was meant to have, at the time that he was elected, um, that he was elected to have, um, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thum, and thi, and thi, and he was thum, and he was th, and he was th, and he was th, and, and, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, section 44 thing so he was meant to have at the time that he was elected he had been sentenced of a crime well he'd received a sentence of more than one year for stealing the keys from a rental truck that was trying to be repossessed from his house and throwing them away and then he had a court declare him bankrupt because of his ongoing business was being liquidated or something. And then at the time that he was falling out from Pauli Danso there was that incredible clip where he was like standing in front of this stack of like mugs and reporters like how's your relationship with Paul Aid and he's try to be like, like, mugs and reporters,
Starting point is 00:27:45 like, how's your relationship with Paul Aden? He's trying to be like, oh, it's fired, and he knocks over like 20 of them. And then he got into a fist fight on camera, like a couple of months later. And then, yeah, he just kept like popping up at Parliament House and being like, I will never leave. referring to himself as Senator in exile.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Which he still does when he renominated for Parliament, he put that down as his occupation. It's such a divorced dad move. Yeah. Oh, great stuff. Great stuff. But his platform for getting reelected is that he believes that the Australian government is illegitimate and that Commonwealth law is the only thing that applies in a Yeah, he's a so he's a sovereign citizen dude, isn't it? Yeah, but he's also like this weird British law is the only law thing. It's very fucking strange. It's such a such a weird deal that whole kind of, I think I made some kind of reference to this on a recent episode, like, you know, people in the states who are like, ah, because of how some amendment on the Constitution is worded, technically no one has to pay tax. Like people who just pick some kind of event from the past and decide that that is this
Starting point is 00:29:06 turning point at which, like, you know, the entire legal foundation upon which your country has built just doesn't apply to you. Oh, there was a... There was a... A comma in the second sentence of the Constitution, which means it's all illegal. Yeah, it's like, it's like sovereign citizens, it's like the am I being detained people, people who think that there is like this unknown magical combination of words you can say that will completely like disarm the police and the government from interfering in your life. It's all the, it's all the, uh, did you know that the real phone number for the police is 911 to kind of vibe?
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's that if a cop pulls you over and you say I'm a person not a name, they have to let you go. Mike, yeah. Yep. And of course, if anybody out there is interested, you can look at, you can look online for other disqualified One nation, Senator Malcolm Roberts, who wrote, who had written several years beforehand, a long and absolutely while letter to Prime Minister at the time, Julia Gillard. And that entire thing is,
Starting point is 00:30:23 it's all written in the sovereign citizen language of like using like semi-colons and hyphens and stuff and all caps in people's names because they believe that like you know there's there's the version of you that is like treated as an asset by the corporation that is the government and then there is the real you and government and then there is the real you and you have to refer to the real name the right way. And he writes like a big 20 page long letter to Julia Gillard demanding that she like prove that climate change is real to his satisfaction and then joust with him or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Great stuff, great times. In 2011 Roberts wrote an affidavit to then Prime Minister Julia Gillard, addressing her as the woman Julia hyphen Eileen Gullin Gillard, acting as the honourable Julia Eileen Gillard, demanding that she sign a contract exempting him from paying the carbon tax and compensation of up to $280,000 if she didn't provide the disclosure of 28 points. But the way it's written is like, to the woman, Julia, it's all super weird and yeah, it's absolutely like people who think that they are writing a magic spell. Like you have to do these very specific invocations in order to defeat and disarm the government.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And as you can see, that worked out great for him. And everything's going perfect. And of course the last candidate for Fraser Annings Party that we have any news about is David Archibald, who stood against former Foreign Minister Julie Bishop in 2016 for the Australian Liberty Alliance, before trying his luck for one nation in the Pilbarra at the last state election. He's emerged on Senator Annings' upper house ticket in W.A., when nominations were declared on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Now of course you may remember this guy that we had spoken about before because in 2015 an essay the Geologist and Climate Change Skeptic urged the government to stop funding lifestyles such as single motherhood and disability pensioners. Quote, the first thing that springs to mind is single motherhood Mr. Archibald wrote in quadrant. Of course he fucking wrote it in quadrant. These are women too lazy to attract and hold a mate, undoing the work work of possibly 3 million years of evolutionary pressure. This will result in a rapid rise in the portion of the population that is lazy and ugly. So, uh, now, I don't know if I, if I need to, um, if I need to say it, but if you happen to look at a picture of Senate candidate David Archibald, try and guess whether or not he is a sterling specimen
Starting point is 00:33:15 of humanity. Try to guess if he's a beautiful man. Is he an oil painting, Andrew? Hey, I've actually got one more if we've got time. Oh, another candidate. Just snuck it in at the last moment. Go on. It's the kebabbab guy.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I don't know. It sounds like we've got two more. Oh, good. So this is a story I heard about last year. So there's a longstanding conference for like, computer science called the International Conference on Advances in Computer Entertainment, which was to be held in Montana last year. But it was taken over.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Look, we don't need to get into, don't need to get distracted. Which person didn't say Montana. I think that's just because you're bilingual, you got confused between the Spanish Montagna and Montana and, you know, because you're like a man of the world. That is exactly what has occurred here. It's definitely it. So this conference got taken over by a bunch of shitlords and they attempted to merge
Starting point is 00:34:26 it or co-located with the International Congress on Love and Sex with Robots. What? They then invited Steve Bannon to be the keynote speaker at the first, the computer entertainment conference. I don't know about you but when I think robots and AI I think Steve Benin a bad robot is currently failing. When I think things that almost look human but don't and it makes me hugely uncomfortable causes revulsion I think Steve Ben so a bunch of the speakers at that you know who are... it makes me hugely uncomfortable causes revulsion. I think Steve Bennett. So a bunch of the speakers that that you know who are normal people you know
Starting point is 00:35:12 nerds with PhDs that have research and all that kind of stuff went oh that sucks I'm out so everybody left and then they didn't have a conference. From there a man named Adrian Chook I apologize if I'm pronouncing that's that. That's that that's that that that that's that. You you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you that, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you that, you that, you that, you that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that's that that's that that's that that's that's that's that's man named Adrian Chook, I apologize if I'm pronouncing that wrong, that's C-H-E-O-K, said that they blamed it on what he called an anti-free speech fascist style mob. And the behavior of people opposed to Mr. Burns' presence was very similar to the campaigns of book burning in Nazi Germany. Absolutely. The decision to cancel was a tragic moment in the history of human civilization they said in an unsigned rant on the conference website but I have said it's Adrian that said this because of what came out after this. So all all very weird.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It turns out Adrian has resurfaced first as a candidate for the Clive Palmer United Party in South Australia. He got mysteriously dropped from that. I haven't actually been able to find out why. And then he has popped back up with Winchinoe, the Fraser Anning Party. So sex robot guy, maybe just give up at this point, I think. Is he also the one who developed an online kissing machine?
Starting point is 00:36:44 He might be, it sounds like that would be exactly the one who developed an online kissing machine? He might be, it sounds like that would be exactly the same guy. I know we were talking about this, but I don't think that, because I was sort of, I didn't realize it's all about 10 minutes ago that he had defected to Fraser Annings Party. I know we were talking about that on Messenger a few days ago and I can almost guarantee it's the same guy. Oh dear, oh dear. Great candidates as always. And like I said, it's genuinely just all people who couldn't even run for like Palmer's
Starting point is 00:37:21 party, couldn't run for one nation due to either huge, huge personality problems, the inability to say anything without immediately tripping over their dick and falling face first into a big pile of racism. Well just sewer mutations. Yeah, and here they are, here they are running again. And that's great news. Now folks, I know that we'd like to read out the odd opinion piece here. And I think it's time that we got into the finance market. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're all financial geniuses.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Big time money geniuses. Because we have here an article written by Adele Ferguson, who according to the Sydney Morning Herald, the Adele Ferguson, who according to the Sydney Morning Herald, Adele Ferguson comments on companies, markets and the economy. And Adele does have a comment on a company this Easter. Now, this Easter. Now, this very much strikes me. They've put it in the banking and finance section of the categories of the City of Morning Herald, Business, Banking and Finance, retail.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Clearly, something terrible has happened to Adel. And I'm going to share that with you now. If everybody's ready. Are you all ready? Are you all ready for some serious emotional discomfort in this one? I've braced myself. I mean, I just assume it's going to happen at any point, so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Time for a tale of injustice. Invalid gift card. I mean, I just assume it's going to happen at any point, so... Okay. Oh, Leo. Time for a tale of injustice. Invalid gift card and surly staff, Easter Saturday and DJs, beyond belief by Adele Ferguson. Mentioned department stores and customer service in the same breath and everyone has a story. There are laments of too few sales staff, unhelpful staff, clueless staff, and those who treat customers with contempt. Complaints of stores with clothes dumped on the floor, stores holding old stock or stock that few want to buy. I've experienced all the above, but my experience at the weekend was something else. The first relates to gift cards, the second to a staff member, insinuating in front of
Starting point is 00:39:51 my daughter that I couldn't be trusted to try on a t-shirt without a long security wire attached. The gift card angered me. The t-shirt incident embarrassed me. From time to time, David Jones offers $20 gift cards angered me. The t-shirt incident embarrassed me. From time to time, David Jones offers $20 gift cards as a promotion if a certain amount of money is spent. I received one in December. When I returned to the store on Easter Sunday, Easter Saturday, David Jones was offering a $20 gift card if $200 or more was spent on makeup. When I presented my now few months old $20 gift card, it was rejected as invalid. It turns out it was only valid for one month.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Nobody told me it had such a short expiry date. The person serving me on Saturday didn't know that the current $20 gift card promotion had a similar time frame until she read the fine print on the back of the card. So the expiry date was on the back of the card the whole time? It's literally free money but is she complaining about? That she got a gift card like five months ago. And then she took it into a store without looking at the date on it. Also, can I ask, the shirt that she's taken in
Starting point is 00:41:13 with the wire attached, right? Is this one of those David Jones shirts that are like, I don't know, I don't shop at David Jones because I'm not some sort of... More of a money person. Um, but like occasionally there'll be like a shirt on a mannequin or what having you'll walk up and you go, ah, you know, let's see how the other half lives and you'll turn the tag over and it will be 700 earth dollars. Yeah, it's like when you see like a, oh that's a nice business shirt. I can't imagine that that that that that that that that that that then then then th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th the the the's the's the's the's the's the' the' the' the' the' tho' tho- tho-a' their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they's they's they's they's th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea' theat's thea' thea' thea' thea' thea' thea' thea' thea'er's thea' thea' the a that's a nice business shirt I can't imagine that cost too much more than $300 and then you're from 14,000 yeah four fourteen thousand dollars tell you what David Jones and Meyer that sort of
Starting point is 00:41:52 that shop it's not a fun experience don't go in there don't do it nobody does nobody does any more so we don't have to work except for Adele who seems to be having a bad time. Having a very bad time. Well, she does get into details about the T-show with the Wi-Bi so let's see what this goes, because as we've said, she's already been angered by this gift card situation where she has very helpfully taken in a card that she got in December without looking at once, has been informed, this expired four months ago and is now trying to reframe this in her mind as
Starting point is 00:42:26 being someone else's fault somehow. Deceptive and misleading or just plain tricky. Yeah putting the exprudate all the way over on the back of the card. It might not be illegal but it doesn't pass the pot test particularly given the take-up rate of Australians redeeming gift cards. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission declined to comment on the David Jones promotional gift card. She fucking contacted the A-Triple-C about this. That's how fucking steam she was. But it said the businesses have responsibilities under the Australian consumer law not to mislead or deceive customers. Quote, businesses must be clear and up front to consumers about the conditions
Starting point is 00:43:16 of their promotional offers. Businesses must also clearly state all conditions on a gift card including the expiry date, said the A-triple-C in a statement. So it sounds like David Jones did do that? The requirement is they have to have the conditions and the X-Berry date on the card, which he has clarified they had on the car. I feel like I'd check that. Like if someone gave me a gift card, I'd be like, oh, let's see how long I've got to use this bad boy. And that's just me. But I feel like I'd do that. But if it was like a month, you'd go, oh, I better get down there.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Because otherwise, I mean, I'll look at things and think, oh, this is valid for a year. But I also still think I should use this will just go into a cupboard somewhere for me to find three years later and go, oh, somebody spent like $50 on me and I threw it in the toilet. Wow, you weren't graceful, ungraceful? You're ungraceful piece of shit. It's graceless, Ben. I'm graceless. Yeah, completely without grace. Anyway, getting back to this very sad story here. In an attempt to stem the margin shrinkage, David Jones and Meyer of cut costs,
Starting point is 00:44:35 it has created a vicious cycle, which has resulted in deteriorating customer service and therefore, fewer customers. On Saturday, the customer service was appalling. I wanted to try on a t-shirt, which had a long security wire attached incorrectly. I was fobbed off at three different counters before someone, huffing and puffing, reluctantly agreed to remove the wire. Before handing me the garment, she decided to take it back and put the wire through the arm. When I asked why, she glared at me and said, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, to to to to the the to decided to take it back and put the wire through the arm. When I asked why, she glared at me and said, it would stop it getting stolen.
Starting point is 00:45:09 This is not the way to treat a customer. Not at David Jones. No! No! I'm spending $14,000 on this show. Oh my god. With fewer staff, there has been an increase in shop a theft, which goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes goes thage, thage, thage, thage, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, the, the. too, thea. too. too. too. too too too too too too toper theft, which goes to another side effect of cost cutting. In a statement, David Jones said it was normal practice to have wires attached to some of its floor stock as a loss prevention measure.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Quote, given this feedback, we will review and refresh our training in this area to ensure the experience is improved for all customers. They said to me, after I bothered them about this thing. So far this lady has contacted the A-triple-C and David Jones themselves and written a column in a fucking newspaper. In terms of its gift cards for promotional periods, David Jones said it would look at measures to improve the visibility of validity periods. I certainly won't be rushing back any time soon.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Adele Fogger is a senior writer. What a sad tale. Just like, if this had happened to me, right? If I had a $20 gift card for fucking David Jones, and then I went there and they're like, hey, it's expired. I wouldn't even tell this to a friend. Like if we were sitting down having beers and someone's like, what have you been up to lately and I had just come from that experience, I'd be like, oh, yeah, not much.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I wouldn't fucking try to to sit down and write 700 words, try to make it part of a broader social issue, because I didn't read the back of a fucking card. Yeah, this is after complaining to a bunch of different people in the store, then contacting the A-triple-C to see if David Jones was wrong for you not looking at the card, and then contact David Jones themselves and then write a story about it. This lady has clearly given several days of her life to being extremely mad. Like, there's definitely times when I think people would just be really helped out by just letting go of a thing, moving forward with life.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Because this to me is this perfect example of like, what happens with people sometimes is that they have worked out in their head beforehand exactly how they're expecting something to go. And then when it doesn't, they just cannot cope with this at all. A similar thing. I witnessed a similar thing recently. I was transferring my driver's license, right? I've now lived in this territory for several years, so I thought the time was right to go down and transfer the old driver's license over. And I'm standing at the counter in this government shop front. And while I'm getting my stuff sorted out, the slot next to me, they call up a person.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And it's this sort of retired age-looking guy comes up, he goes, oh, good, hey, I'm here to get me license back. And they said, okay, so what's the deal? He said, oh, well, it got suspended six months ago, or, you know, it got suspended for six months and that was more than six months ago, so I've just come in and get it back. And he immediately starts telling the person behind the counter about what it happened, which, as I'm hearing the snippets through the thing that I'm doing and it sounds a lot like he was Like over over the blood alcohol limit but like sitting in his car behind the wheel and the cops had come in?
Starting point is 00:48:57 You know it had come up and like breathalized him and done him for drunk driving which he? He found very unfair and which the person behind the counter said so that's that's really between you and the police? th????????? th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the the thi thin thin the the the thin the the thin' the the the thin. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the thi the the thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin, the the the the an the an the an the an the an thin. the an the an thin. the an the an the an thin, th found very unfair, and which the person by on the counter said, so that's really between you and the police. Sure. They have then gone on to actually look at his record and have indicated that there is actually a whole host of things that you need to do to get your license back after having had it suspended for drink driving. It's like, you need to go and do like a workshop or whatever and do this paperwork and that sort of stuff. This guy is absolutely not having it. He was telling them, no, no, but it was suspended more than six months ago,
Starting point is 00:49:41 so I can have it back now. And they're saying, I'm sorry, sir, but you need to do these things. And he's like, well, let me tell you about how my license got suspended, and we can all agree it's very unfair. I heard the phrase a handful of times, sir, I really can't comment on that. That's between you and the police. I heard this on that. That's between you and the police. I heard this so many times. But the whole thing really struck me as, this guy just had in his head how this was going
Starting point is 00:50:11 to go. He was going to go down to the shop front. He was going to say, hey, I've just realized I can have my license back now. And they were going to hand it over to him and while they were handing it over, he would say, I was just sitting in my car. I wasn't even driving it and they came up to me and breathalized me. Isn't that crazy? And everybody in the place would have gone, what? Get out of here!
Starting point is 00:50:36 That's crazy. They never should have taken it in the first place. And then everyone would have stood up and applauded. Yep, yep. Very clearly had this whole thing mapped out in his mind beforehand. Except that that wasn't how it worked out. They didn't give him his license back. But he just really tried to stay on script. You know, this script that he had written and hadn't informed anybody else about. He really tried to just plow ahead with it. And that's what I feel that Adele has done with this piece.
Starting point is 00:51:07 In her mind, she was going to go down and get her $20. That's it. That's all she was getting out of this thing. What can you even get at David Jones? Oh, I guess you get $20 off something, but it's not like you could take a $20 gift card into David Jones and leave with an item. You can maybe leave with one of the very small Lego sets in the toy section. The small ones that are like seven pieces. A scented candle? Oh no. I don't know about that. That might run you up to 2495.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. I think though that like a plate. Obviously I'm not mocking anybody's want or need to save $20 on something. But these aren't those people. Anyone shopping at David Jones does not need to save $20 is why it's so funny. Yeah, yeah, well as we discussed earlier, you're already paying more than any of these things that you're buying are worth because they're selling them to you out of what is theoretically the fancy department store. Although if you go into any like David Jones now, it's just
Starting point is 00:52:13 kind of old and sad. Horrible. Horrible customer service. Someone will make a face at you and removing the security tag from your $14,000 shirt. Now of course the one other factor to this that I think is very, very obvious is that if you are going to write a whole thing complaining about customer service, don't open the article talking about how fucking pissy you were that you didn't get your way about a thing, because it makes it very, very clear that you have just been an unreasonable piece of shit through every transaction you've had with anybody at David Jones.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So I think we can all very much picture this person being told that their thing is invalid, and then going on to just like harang every person in the store. Isn't it weird that like three staff in a row were all rude to just like harang every person in the store. Isn't it weird that like three staff in a row were all rude to you? I wonder if perhaps you began every interaction with them pissily. Who knows? Well you know she won't be rushing back any time soon as she says. Now we did we did get some questions in the old mail bag. Should we pop a few of them off before we get out of here? Pop them off. Pop. A lot of questions for Lucy. Oh, why? That's fine. Lucy today. Four hosts. There's always like 12 questions for Theo,
Starting point is 00:53:40 this, Theo that, every bloody week. Why doesn't the smart person weigh on this? Ooh, ooh. Ooh, boo. Ooh, boo. Uh, OK, so, um, brand new upgraded wife of the show, T.K. Donut. Oh. Congratulations. Says, which model of gun from Walmart will Lucy use for the marksmanship portion of her American citizenship test?
Starting point is 00:54:05 Imagine if there was a marksmanship portion that would be incredible. Oh, there is. That's not a joke. And then the swimsuit competition. That's how I picture the American citizenship ceremony. They're actually held at the same time. Pick a gun though, seriously. I don't know like an M4. I think you can buy M4's at Walmart. I bet you can. You probably buy something that looks a lot like them though.
Starting point is 00:54:37 We also have a question here from a lover of the show CDK. As a migrant, which job will Lucy steal from a hardworking American? Ooh, can I just take my pick? There's so many low-paying minimum wage jobs here. I just don't know what to choose from. Once I get that green card, it's going to be like, what if I got? I could be a waitress for like $2 an hour? I could work at McDonald's for $11 an hour. They're advertising here. It's very exciting. You get health insurance. This is a bad country. What a nightmare. This country's not great. Don't really want to move here. Well, you are so. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:55:22 So, uh, we've also got a friend of the show Wadonga Bob. Sure. This is... What's wrong with the Dunga? Aubrey Wadonga region. Hi, Dr. Lucy. I need some relationship advice. Hello, Wadonga Bob. My, what's the 35-year-old male,
Starting point is 00:55:47 mum, 70-year-old female, is racist. What's the best response to the classic being anti-Muslim isn't racist because they're not a race? I tried, fuck off! But I'm scared she doesn't love me anymore. Please help. I feel like we've covered this in the, I don't really know what you can do when someone's that old. You know? Just wait it out. I don't want to allow, I wasn't going to say waited out, but I mean... Sorry, don't wait it out then. Is there any legitimate way to attack this? Do any of you guys think that there is anything to to be done about this? Is there any way that that that that that that you that that that that that you that that that that that that that that that that that that that that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you can that you can that you can that you can that you can that you can thi? thi thi? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. thi thi thi? thi. thi. to be thi. the. the. to be the. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to the. the. the. to that there is anything to be done about this? Is there any way that you can commit mail fraud to get her voting registration changed to a region where she is not currently residing?
Starting point is 00:56:34 So that when she shows up to the booth, her vote no longer counts? Is that a thing you can do within the realms of the law? Hmm, it seems good. Male tho? Certainly not that seems good. Almost certainly not. But you can certainly do it. Sure. If you're not worried about the realms of the law part. I think, um, yeah, like, I think part of the trick with this particular thing as we've made reference to before, is that things like, you know, specifically being anti-Muslimism racist because they're not a race,
Starting point is 00:57:08 like specific arguments like that I think have been very deliberately crafted by people on the right to be like the trapdoor out of being called racist for something. I think that they're very deliberately crafted as a thing where you can say, oh, it's not about that. I'm not against, I'm not against, what is it, Halal certification because I'm racist or because I'm Islamophobic,
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm against it because I don't want my money going towards the certification. You have to pay extra for this thing, which you don't. But that's not the point. People like to try and make out like it's actually about that as opposed to just like, oh I'm very scared. Stop scratching the carpet, you goddamn cat. Stop ruining all my carpet. Just be like that.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Just be like, stop being Islamophobic. Quit it. Stop that race. Don't spray it with a water bottle. Yeah. I think, I don't know, like maybe the only sort of genuine answer I could give to that is like, depending on how invested you are in this whole thing, like you could go away and do some research into like the types of conspiracy theories that
Starting point is 00:58:35 all of this stuff always kind of springs off from, you know, it always starts seemingly innocuous and then it immediately jumps off into something really racist and you could if you wanted to I suppose like put together some examples of that sort of stuff of people freaking out about Halal certification because they're convinced that it's actually like you know money going to the Islamic State and money going to Al-Qaeda and shit like that. Because you could put together a handful of examples of that and go, look, you know, people make these specific arguments. Being anti-Muslim isn't racist,
Starting point is 00:59:14 because, you know, they're just trying to keep the dog whistling stuff to an acceptable level, and then once people can identify that they're all in the same racist boat, then they immediately jump off into this type of shit. And you can have your examples, but then if at that point, you know, your mother says, yes, they are funding the Islamic State, then you probably, you probably give up at that point. You know. A friend of thethe show Flashband says, Andrew, what's the best Billy Ocean song?
Starting point is 00:59:48 And why is it, Love Really Hurts Without You? He says, wait, is this an in-cell anthem? I hope it's not. Anyway, that's the wrong answer. The best Billy Ocean is the song, Love Zone, from the album, Love Zone. Hmm. Okay, so anyone's curious about that.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Uh, and of course, question from friend of the show, Panos, there isn't nearly enough AFL talk in this podcast. Good. What is each of your number one favorite thing about our native game and other friend of the show Liam Reeves has replied, Lucy is the only one from the state where it's played. Or legal. Yeah I don't even know if I can say those three letters in that order because I believe that might be a crime. Yeah it's um it's not good the old the old AFL I mean look lots of people like it and it. And that's fine. It's fine to me.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Lucy's audio has dropped out again. She's fallen off the edge of the podcast, which is fine. It's no big deal. I don't know if she has a team, if she has an AFL team, but, um, yeah, no, luckily we all live in places where nobody plays, nobody plays AFL. Nobody wants to hear about it. So, um, take that game where everybody runs a lot, is tall and handsome. Where are the corners? Oh, thank you for joining us everybody. As always, if you would like an extra episode of the show every week, access to our discord server, all the other fun benefits that you can get, head on over to Patreon.
Starting point is 01:01:41 to Patreon. Ford. Hey, if you'd just like to support the show, if you'd just like to sling us a couple of dollars every month, you know, just to say to Patreon.com forward slash Buente Vista. Hey, if you'd just like to support this show, if you'd just like to sling us a couple of dollars every month, you know, just to say thank you. Just to say thank you for rambling, barely coherent, fair and out. Hey Lucy's back. Did I miss a great team? Oh boy, I'm done. I'm good.thought. That's what I missed. We have no, we have no AFL opinions on this podcast. None. It's an AFL free zone. And so we'll wrap it up and we'll see you next week everybody. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Bye. Bye. Don't you believe that I want you? I need you here in my arms. Oh no, you won't have to worry. I'll spend each day in your charms. Oh, I want to kiss you all over, running my hand through your hair. Oh, I know a place where love is. I'll keep you warm night to day. In the love zone.
Starting point is 01:03:02 You don't have to be alone. Together we can live and learn. In the love zone. Mmm. Come rest your head on my shoulder.

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