Boonta Vista - EPISODE 97: Fully Loaded War Whale

Episode Date: May 6, 2019

Andrew and Ben take a visit to Norway in this week's Nature Corner, and run down the sad state of the Australian Federal election in Disgraced Candidate Watch. *** Support our show and get exclusive bonus episodes by subscribing on Patreon: www.patreon.com/BoontaVista *** Merchandise available at: boontavista.com/merchandise *** Twitter: twitter.com/boontavista iTunes: tinyurl.com/y8d5aenm Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2DBCXGA Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/s?fid=144888&refid=stpr Pocket Casts: pca.st/SPZB RSS: tinyurl.com/kq84ddb

Welcome to Bonto Vista episode 97. I'm told by my dear friend Ben. Hello Ben. Well, that felt quite nice actually. I think we are dear friends. I think that's true. That's true. There's been a lot of time together doing this show. Where we are approaching the hundreds of hours, Mark, I think that's true. That's true. There's been a lot of time together doing this show. We are approaching the hundreds of hours, Mark, I think. That is a lot of time. And think of all the things we know about each other now.

That's right. That's right. You know about your family's attempted murder. to murder of a whale. Yeah, I don't thoahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. that that tho. tho. tho. tho. thu. that's tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. that th. th. th. th. the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thean. thean. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes. th. the. th. th. on. It was one of the bonus episodes. Just go back and listen to all of them. Yeah, I specifically made sure that that was on a bonus episode so that it never made it into the public. But thank you very much. Subscribe, Patron, $5. Dig back through there and learn about Ben's former seafaring life.

Yeah, on the season, not all of them your fault. Please keep that in mind when you listen to the episode. Thank you very much. They're not all your fault and if they happen in international waters then who's to point in your fingers? You know? Certainly. And even if it did happen in territorial waters, please do not blame me. Please stop pointing your finger just point any fingers. Keep your hand pulled up casually in a fist. Thank you very much. That's right. Always approach Ben with both hands curled into fists. He likes that. It raised up at chest height so I can see where they are. Thank you very much. Do it like. You ever seen that movie Far and A today. Do it like uh, you ever seen that movie far and away? I don't know if I did. It sounds awful familiar though. It was like in the 90. the the the the the the the th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. te. te. the. the. the. th. It was like, in the 90s, you know when, like, when Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were like the Hollywood Power Couple?

And they had made like Days of Thunder together and everything. So they're both very much looking that, that vintage of Tom and Nicole. And then Ron Howard made like a period piece epic called Far and Away about a pair of Irish folk. Tom Cruise's character is very poor and Nicole Kidman's character is like the daughter of a landlord who's getting run off his property and stuff and they both wind up running away to America because they've heard about the big land grab that's happening over there and so you just get to see like an entire movie of Tom Cruise doing a thick Irish accent. That cannot be good surely. It's uh... I mean the accent, not the movie. Well both you can say it about both. Anyway the point is that the the the talent that Tom Cruise's

character has is he's extremely good at bare knuckle boxing and that's how he like gets money and finds his way but it's like the old-timey type of bare knuckle boxing where you both square up with your fists held out like three feet in front of your faces. Put him up, put up, you say. And yeah, I don't know if I'd recommend it. It's just weird, very weird twist at the end where they basically just go, oh Tom Cruise's character is dead after all of that. He has been crushed to death under a large horse. And then he just kind of gets up and goes, actually it's fine. He passed

out a little and was revived. Yeah whereas the movie really plays it like he has been crushed to death just on the cusp of achieving his dream but I'm guessing they like did it with a test audience who said that's sad and they went well we don't want to make you sad what if he's just alive at the end because that's the best way to make you sad. What if he's just alive at the end? Because that's the best way to make a movie. You just, you have the process of the main character dying, so you try and, you try and get the emotional payoff of someone dying, but then you just go, oh no consequences, no consequences. No consequences. Oh man, Ebert did not like this movie.

Far and away is a movie that joins astonishing visual splendor with a story so simple-minded it seems intended for adolescence. Yeah. Oh Roger, you were a mean bitch. Loved the movie Dark City though. Really loved Dark City that man. That was a pretty cool movie. And how could you not? Great film.

Yeah. Directed by Australian Alex Price. Certainly, who's done one and a half good movies. Now coming back to, coming back to like, whale crimes in international waters and being crushed by a horse. That would have been a great segue if we'd just done that instead of the middle thing. So talking about far and away for a while. Well, imagine, if you will that we didn't talk about far and away at all. And imagine that instead we were talking about whale crimes. And that takes us to this week's segment of Nature Corner, which we don't have a theme for yet. So I'm just going to play whatever

comes to mind, Nature Corner. It's a very loud foghorn. All right, what about instead we try some Nature Corner? See, that's a more nature corner. See, that's more nature related, but it sounds a bit threatening to be honest. Yeah ominous nature it is nature so then yes what's going on in Nature Corner this week. Andrew I'm so excited you asked and not just because I asked you to ask to ask.

I want you to ask. Um... I want you to imagine, for a second that you are... I'm preparing my mind palace to... Empty out your mind palace. Throw out for one goddamn second, the 1988 sci-fi noir film, Alien Nation. I will tenderly place it to the side on a soft pillow. Kick it out the door, kick it and it's four or five sequels and the five-season TV series that it spawned out of your mind palace onto the curb and you say get out of here! Get out of here James Khan and Mandy Patinkin. Yeah get out of here. Themes of racism explored through what if aliens arrived in LA, but they were the people we were racist about.

Get out of here, um, the movie that's just a better district nine. Because we're not talking about alienation. We have emptied our mind palaces and we are imagining for a brief second that we are a fisherman. In the northern... The salty seawater is... I should play the foghorn sound effect again. We're on the northern coast of Norway. So this is the very top part. If you, perhaps while you're listening to this, you open up your Google Maps, you type in Norway Norway the country of Norway

and it will show you all of those I'll show you the country of Norway yeah it should and also you'll see Sweden and Finland and what have you but the northern coast that's right near Russia right it borders with Russia actually it's all Arctic and shit up there. You can see Russia from my house. Hey, that's topical reference. Someone's living up there but they're doing a Sarah Palin from 2008 reference. I reckon there is absolutely one person who lives up there in like somewhere near the border. It definitely doesn't look like there's... No, there are towns on the border. It definitely doesn't look like there's, oh no, there are towns on the border.

Someone lives in Vodso, and every day they do a perfect bloody Tina Fey, Sarah Palin. I can see Russia from my house and all of their neighbors say, fuck you. They roll their neighbors say, fuck you. They roll their eyes. In Norwegian, I assume. But anyway, imagine you're out on the, you're on the water. You're near a village that I believe is so small that it doesn't even show up the map. I tried to find it before and I couldn't do it.

It's Arctic. It's very, very cold. You're trying to do whatever sort of fishing you do it, there is long lining, nets, I don't know. And then this fucking whale keeps coming up to you. Every goddam day this whale comes up to you and it rubs against the boat and it comes up and it pokes its head out of the water, it's got his mouth open like it's expecting it coo cooes normal whale noises. That exact noise that all whales

could make. It's a big beluga whale by the way. Also called the white whale it's the only marine mammal whose skin is entirely white pigment. The beluga whale, a little nature effect for you. So this keeps happening and you're like, for fuck sake, shut up, Mr. Whale, I've got fishing to do. And then you realize you're looking at the whale and you see that this thing has something sort of tied around its torso and you go, oh no, this whale is actually asking for my help, but I've been a really mean person to it. I've been a jerk about this whale which is caught in like the the plastic ring container of like a gigantic six-pack of beer.

Yeah it's six-pack from one of the trolls from troll hunters, troll hunter. Yeah. And you call up the director of fisheries and you say, hey this fucking whale over here he's caught in something. They happen to have a boat nearby with two investigators on it and they pop over. A man by the name of Yurken gets in the water with a specialized custom built rope freeing tool. I assume you're not talking about famed actor, Yurkan and Protch now. Oh, would that I were because I love that man dearly. This is a different man. I've forgotten the last two part of th I were, because I love that man dearly. This is a different man.

I've forgotten the last two parts of his name, but I definitely remember his first name. He's gone in the water, he's taking the thing off and then they pull it. They take the thing that was on it, onto the boat, and they rope or fishing net or the weird six-pack thing. This is a harness specifically built to fit all whale that this whale was wearing. And on this whale, there amounts for a GoPro on each side of its body. A bit suss, you might agree. I might yes. Stamped on the buckles that are on there, you know, the sort of buckles you'd see on a school backpack kind of deal, those little clippy ones. It's stamped with a sort of stylized image of a mountain and then the words

equipment of St. Petersburg. Mm-hmm. Yes. The Russians. The Russians. So everyone's going, hey, what's the deal here? Is this a Russian wall whale? Which is objectively the coolest combination of words in the world.

It's so amazingly badass. Well, you think about all those, all those like different kind of documented instances of people trying to weaponize like dolphins and whales and shit in the past, you know, when they were trying to make dolphins like landmine detectors and all that kind of cool stuff and you think to yourself hey that's pretty retro but apparently apparently still doing it. Still going on. So a bunch of Norwegian marine experts that were contacted by the Norwegian news service in RK, they all were like, well, it's probably the Russians, isn't it?

And so I think the Department of Fisheries people contacted some Russian researchers that they knew when they were like, well, you know, we do do studies with whales and stuff, but we would never put a harness on one. That's just not something that whale researchers would do. It's almost definitely the military. And Russia has form on this. They've done this before. Like they've done this shit with dolphins and stuff, but specifically they have also, there have been documented cases of them using Beluga whales for stuff. They use them for guarding naval bases, helping divers and finding lost equipment apparently, that's what they've done in the past.

So yeah, they're almost certain, this is a military whale. There's no other reasonable explanation. And they're... Military whale, again, fantastic combination of words. Just a great combination of words. And there is a Russian Navy base, very, very close to here. The Murmansk, Sea Biology Research Institute. Oh, wait, no, sorry, that's a thi. their their their their their. their. their. they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th th th thi. thi. they're...a. they're...a. they're... they're... they're they're they're they're to you. The Murmansk Sea Biology Research Institute. Oh wait, no, sorry, that's a different place. But that's another place where a 2017 report in the Siberian types said they had been training blue whales at, which is indeed nearby, but

there is a Navy base in Mermansk. So that's pretty cool, but the story goes on. We don't have any further clarification as to whether or not it definitely is or is not a whale. But one theory has been superbly shot down in this article from the Guardian. Oh, this is so good. I love this paragraph. An alternative theory, based on the Wales, Trix and the English inscription on its harness, is that it's made its way to northern Norway after escaping from captivity in St. Petersburg, Florida, for sure. Except that there are no aquariums or marine parks in that St. Petersburg. And Florida, of course, known for its many gigantic mountains.

Yeah, sure. That you would depict on that pocket. Yeah, it's very strange. I saw someone replying to a post that that mountain icon was actually the logo of a Russian sports equipment manufacturer which from looking at their website did indeed appear to be the case. But the, so the story here, the headline of this story, also just a wonderful combination of words, Russian spy whale has defected to Norway locals claim. As though the whale were like, you know, I'm a soldier but I'm really conflicted about the things. You know what? I don't like what we're doing in the world geopolitically.

It's very morally questionable. There's a wonderful image in that guardian article. Just look up the guardian article with that headline. There's a woman posing for a selfie with the whale that is just absolutely delightful. But so the whale's not leaving. And it's clearly used to being fed in reward for tricks. So people have found that the blue whale performs twirls and leaps and happily retrieves plastic rings

before swimming up to the dockside with its mouth open, as if looking for a fish in reward. They're thinking that they're trying to get people to stop feeding it so that it can try and adapt to being in the wild, but apparently whales have a very hard time doing that. But Norway's basically accepted a duty of care for it. There's this quote from, the guy that actually, he's the diver that got in there and freed him, said we are determined in any case to keep track of him because he is now our responsibility. Well that's lovely.

It's segue time. Watch me slip into this bad boy like a warm bath. Go for it. Now Ben, in Nature Corner, of course, we find ourselves talking about all kinds of animals and beasts. But if we want to take a turn to talk about the real pack of filthy animals, why don't we talk about candidates in the upcoming Australian election? So you say this is an extension of Nature Corner? We're still in Nature Corner. How about this? I wouldn't I wouldn't besmirch the proud veteran military whales of the world by putting them in the same bucket as these people.

Yeah, now that's fair. That whale is braver than the troops because he went AWOL. That's right. He said, hey, this war whaling is bullshit. I want to go fetch some rings. And he got himself out of it. I'm good on him. So with that, we take a turn to what will probably be a recurring segment over the following weeks and that is of course, disgraced candidate watch. It's supposed to be chills every time. Yeah, that's right folks. We are, so as you may or may not know,

there is an upcoming federal election in the country of Australia. And it's going great so far. It's going gangbusters. Because apparently every party has very helpfully nominated for pre-selection. A bunch of people that I guess you probably wouldn't let work at your local garbage dump. Like, they're all...

There are actually no offense to the proud sanitation workers of the world. Any workplace, any workplace you would want to get these people the fuck out of there. So what we might do is just a bit of a taking a bit of a running tour of some of these candidates and what they've been all about. So the liberals lost I think two or three candidates in a single day a couple days ago. This is from I think the Guardian maybe. Peter Killen, the liberal candidate for the Victorian seat of Wills, has resigned. Liberal candidate has pulled out of the election race after backlash, after it emerged that he

said the quote homosexual lifestyle carried appalling health risks. Liberal candidate for the Victorian seat of Wills, Peter Killen resigned Wednesday afternoon. Earlier he was forced to apologize, after it was revealed he made a submission to the ruddic review into religious freedom in which he wrote about the dangers posed by gay people. He also lamented the fact that he was not at the pre-selection for fellow liberal Tim Wilson so he could have ensured that there was quote no homosexual MP. Wow. No homo mp Uh, just, just great looks. Earlier Wednesday Mr. Kill and issued an apology for the comments, but said he won't stand aside after a story was published in the Herald's son. My comments were wrong and I apologize unreservedly for making them, he said in a statement. In his Roddick review submission he wrote, quote, the dangers and health risks of gay people

have been well documented in many reliable medical sources for years. Very, very normal dude. Now, there's a report here from Michelle Grattan Institute, where she's talking about the multiple candidates that got knocked out there. She has some insights on this. She says, whether or not it's some sort of record, the liberals loss of two Victorian candidates in a single day is way beyond what Oscar Wilde would have dubbed carelessness. Already struggling in that state, the Victorian liberals managed to select one candidate who judged on his words was an appalling Islamophobe. And she notes very relevantly the the the th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is is th is th is th is th is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is the is theeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii's is the is thi is thi is the thi is th who judged on his words was an appalling Islamophob and another who was an out-and-out homophob.

And she notes, very relevantly, the comments that have brought them down, weren't made in the distant past. They were dated from last year. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. a lot of these there's a lot of hand-wringing to be done over the amount of time that's passed whether they've changed their views since whether it's fair to attack them on stuff that's haven't that long ago this one you're like oh well no this guy was a cunt nine months ago fantastic so let's um yeah we'll come around to that a couple of paragraphs down here because

there is a labor candidate who was dropped for a reasons here. Peter Killen, who was standing in Wills, withdrew over a comment and replied to another commenter he posted in December that included suggesting that liberal MP Tim Wilson should not have been pre-selected because he's gay. Scott Morrison rather quaintly explained the unfortunate choice of Killen by saying, quote, he was a very recent candidate who came in because we weren't able to continue with the other candidate because of section 44 issues. So again just as a as a refresher for our non-Australian listeners, section 44 of the Constitution states that I guess you have to be Australian without any like an Australian citizen without any allegiances to other countries and stuff like that so there are a bunch of qualifying things

that's like I think, so section 44 is basically just the, these are the things that will disqualify you from holding office and there's stuff like you know having having been convicted of particular crimes or like still having sentences over you, being bankrupt, being, being like a dual citizen of another country. Yes, got him. So she says, oops and oops again. First the Victorian liberals pick someone who didn't qualify legally,

and then they replaced that candidate with one who didn't qualify under any reasonable test of community standards. It's not just the liberals with problems of candidates with unacceptable views or bad behavior. Labor's Northern Territory number two Senate candidate, Wayne Kerneth, who shared anti-Semitic material on social media on Monday stood down. So I'm pretty sure this guy was posting like... David Ake. Yeah, posting David Ike. The country is run by a secret cabal of Jews who are also lizard people. Are the lizard people from space in David Ike's deal? I'm not actually sure. I've not looked into this, but I assume it's the plot of they live but with anti-Semitism thrown in, which interestingly, because David Ike has said that they live as his favorite film and he believes it's a metaphor for the Jewish takeover.

John Carpenter has come out repeatedly and been like, fuck you, no, you fucking idiot, how would you get this from my movie? Yeah, it's very, very explicitly anti-corporate. Yeah. He said it was made as a response to Reaganism I believe, if I recall correctly. Absolutely, and like the time period that it's made and everything, you know, it's very clearly that is what it's about, you know. I kind of feel like the David Ike stuff would be fun if it weren't for the extremely anti-Semitic part.

Like you know how he has like the day-long shows in like stadiums and shit? Like convention centers and stuff like that? That seems like a lot. I don't even like if a band plays a set that's longer than an hour. Well, no, I feel like if you could go and watch, you know, if you could go to a convention center or something like that and just sit in a seat and have somebody bombard you with like wild-ass conspiracy theories for a morning or afternoon or whatever, that's the type of thing which back in the day I would have been like, maybe I'm gonna smoke a blunt and go to this thing.

Next time you come up, please try and time it with the last Friday the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th of th of thor tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the thection c. the the the the the the the. their their their convention con con con con con con con con con con con con cune cune c. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. Next time you come up, please try and time it with the last Friday the month so that you can come with friend of the show Ben Jungles and I to a meeting of UFO Research Queensland at Kenmore Public Library. You are in for a treat, my friend. I would love to do that. And of course, I feel like the worst way that that could work out is if you were to do something like eat a bunch of potent edibles, go to a day-long thing like this and not knowing that it was going to take a sharp turn into like severe racism and anti-Semitism at some point I feel like that would really kill it. Oh yeah that would definitely that would ruin my vibe I think it would really harsh your buzz so so to speak. No anti-Semitism at UFO Research Queens.

I thought the world's second longest UFO organization, longest running I should say. That's great. So Bill Shorten embarrassed himself on Wednesday by saying he hadn't met Wayne Kurneth despite having been filmed with him. I think he then went on to clarify, it the thing where like you know he'd shaken his hand and stood and got a photo with him at something and so they had a photo of him with him and the campaign said look you know he met the dude but he meets hundreds of people every week and he doesn't remember him all which which I kind of think is relatively valid for the leader of a major political party.

You know, like having a photo of you standing next to someone does not mean that you're best friends with them or anything. I'm sure that there is a lot of very similar stuff with like Jeremy Corbyn, although he has much more radical political ties and stuff like that, but I'm sure there are a lot of people that you could find a photo of Jeremy Corbyn with and then find something wild that that person had said in their past and say, ha, gotcha, Jeremy Corbyn, you believe this thing. So then there's the case of Luke Creasy, the labor candidate running in Melbourne, which is held by Greens Adam Bant, who shared, but I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm, but I'm, I'm, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, Ithen there's the case of Luke Creasy, the Labour candidate running in Melbourne, which is held by Greens Adam Bant, who shared rape jokes and pornographic material on social media. He has done a mayor culpah saying his actions happened a number of years ago and in no way reflect the views I hold today.

Creasy still has his endorsement. Now as of right now, he does not. He does. Yeah, that things kind of got worse. So this comes back to what you were saying though, which is that, I mean, I'm going to be real with you. I don't like this guy's face. He has extreme private school boy face.

He does. This is certainly true. It's not a disqualifying factor, but it doesn't make me like somebody anymore. No, certainly. He's face doesn't reflect on his quality as a human being in any capacity, but it's a confronting one. He also looks very young. He looks very young, but, and like the posts that I think people are pulling up are from sort of like 2012. I believe that sort of vintage. Yeah, he was like, 20, 21 when he was doing them. Yeah, so this. the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. He's, th. He's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi, he's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's th 2012. I believe that sort of vintage. Yeah, he was like 21 when he was doing them.

Yeah, so this is kind of my point as to what you were referring to earlier, right? With the, with the, like, the hand ringing about. All of this stuff presents a very complicated issue, which is, and which we've spoken about before at length on this show. The whole weaponizing of all the social media posts. I don't know if I'm just like showing my own bias here, but from what we've seen over the last year, and I know that the Liberal Party, I'm sorry,

I know that the Labour Party, who are theoretically a centre-left party in Australia. I say theoretically because lots of other issues that we all know about. They are theoretically a centre-left party and I think that the Labour Party has sort of been one of the worst perpetrators for, you know, disingenuously surfacing out of context comments about Greens candidates. Certainly. Which, generally speaking, like all of the things that we've seen damage, greens candidates, yeah, they're just very clearly taken, like, out of context, bad faith.

So we find a drill post or whatever, and then, you know, they're making out of context, bad faith. So we find a drill post or whatever and then you know they're all they're making fun of racism. Yeah yeah that kind of thing which so I feel like I feel like the things that have been used against labor candidates and by labor against candidates further to the left themselves have all been extremely bad faith out of context interpretations. Whereas the things about liberal candidates and right-wing candidates are very frequently, whereas a lot of the things that have surfaced about like liberal and hard-right candidates are things that are like genuinely disqualifying on the basis of, does it meet our standards as a society? A lot of it is the kind of stuff

that we're talking about of people, you know, being virulently Islamophobic, homophobic, racist. In some cases, this stuff isn't even leading to people standing down because they're from far-right candidates and they've and they've defended the positions you know. Yeah. So with this young guy, this Luke Creasy, I'm not particularly a fan of him or of labor or of the things that he posted. He's posted a bunch of just dumb, edge lordy shit that people post when they're 20. And now in his late 20s, this stuff is coming to light. And yeah, I think that there is much more of a conversation there around, well, you know, were you the same

person at 20 as you were at 27? In my own case, absolutely not. No. And I'm not the same person at 36 that I was at 26, you know? How much room do you give people to grow and learn things and change? And so I think primarily his posts were seven years ago, So 29 to 22. Some of them are bad internet jokes from when, I guess, sexual violence against women was the ultimate punchline that people could think of, because everything fucking sucked back then. And then some of the stuff he said is just, I have, you know, you try and do a generous

reading of it because obviously we've had people where we know they had good intent behind what they said and then it was taken in a literal sense when it's supposed to be ironic whatever I cannot figure out what the fuck this guy is trying to say. If did you read the stuff about the fucking weird shit where he's talking about having its friends virginity taken, fucking watching people do it. It was... I don't know, and he's got some stupid post there about like, when two lesbians are in a relationship, they meld together and have one vagina,

like just the kind of stupid shit that young white guys post when they think they're being really funny. It's very odd, yeah, that was that like, well, see, the paper categorized as them forming one vagina, which I would like to correct the record. He said that when their vagina's come into contact, they mind meld. So their minds become one, but they still retain their... The two vaginas do not become one. Yes. The two vaginas share one consciousness. Well, the brains, I think they're just doing a regular line-meld but through the vagina. I was going to make a press counsel complain about this about whichever outlet I saw summarizing it that way.

But that's neither here. He said some very weird shit that sucked. And, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, I completely agree that it's not good. I also think though it does, it does lead again to those questions about what's the proposed solution to this? Is the proposed solution to, um, for every person who wants to run for any kind of public office to have completely scrubbed every social media profile and like deactivated every social media profile that they have ever held, just in case there's something, is the idea that political parties will only run people who have been carefully

cultivating a public persona on the, like, on the understanding that one day in the future they might run for office and they don't want anything, you know, vaguely distasteful because, which is even those two options are not great because number one, like, this is going to be a thing that, you know, continues to be much more of an issue as the current crop of elected representatives age out and we get younger people coming in because these are going to be

people who have been raised with social media their entire lives. And so by either saying you have to scrub every evidence of everything you've ever said, is kind of weird to say you need to erase essentially your whole public existence before you can do this thing. And if we try and do the version where you say only get people who have been carefully stage managing every public statement they've ever made since they were 17, you're only going to get those like university student politics. Oh, fuck me, no God. We've already got so many of those like university student politics. Oh fuck me, no God.

We've already got so many of those fucking people. Yeah, it's already the kind of people who get preferential treatment from parties anyway, and they're also the worst kind of people. They're also very clearly the worst kind of people because, as we've talked about, many times on the show before, they're the types of people for whom politics and political power and everything is one big game. The entire thing is just a big game and it's all about gaming the system and who knows the rules the best and all that sort of stuff and it seems like policy and improving people's lives is just the furthest thing from a priority for that type of person.

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type of person. It's almost as though spending decades doing dog whistling racism and anti-immigration policies and you know Islamophobic stuff. It's almost as though they have been very deliberately cultivating these sentiments within the Australian public for years and years. It is almost like that. Now, it should be noted here that Michelle Granin makes another excellent point about what happens when all these candidates who have been pre-selected lose their endorsements. She says, it should be remembered that given the post-nomination timing, these latest candidates unloaded by their parties have not lost their spots or

their party designations on the ballot paper. As Anthony Green wrote, when New South Wales liberal candidate had to withdraw during the state election, after a previous association with an online forum which reportedly engaged in unsavory jokes, quote, the election goes ahead as if nothing had happened. It won't occur this time, but recall the Pauline Hansen experience. In 1996, the liberals disendorsed Pauline Hanson for racist remarks, but she remained on the ballot paper with the party moniker. She was duly elected and no doubt quite a few voters had thought she was the official liberal candidate. While the latest major party candidates have been dumped for their views, this election has produced a large number of

candidates who clearly appear to be legally ineligible to sit in Parliament. Their presence is despite the fact that after the horrors of the Constitution's section 44 during the last Parliament, candidates now have to provide extensive details for the Australian Electoral Commission about their eligibility. Though the Electoral Commission does not have any role of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoe. to make to make to to to beaq-a. toe. toe. to bea. toe. toe. toe. toe. I toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. I I, toe. I, toe. I, toe. I, toe. I, toe. I, te. Ie. Ie. Ie. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. t. eligibility. Though the Electoral Commission does not have any role of enforcing eligibility, the availability of this data makes it easier in many cases to spot candidates who have legal question marks. Most of the legally dubious candidates have come from minor parties, and these parties especially,

one nation, Palmer's United Australia Party and Fraser Annings National Party, are getting close media attention. Speaking of which, you know the Fraser Annings candidate for the ACT that we spoke about on a recent episode due to his being ineligible because of his like suspended sentences for punching cops and choking RSPCA workers. I walked past that dude yesterday in the city. Yes. I was like, oh look at this guy's face. He passed right by me on the street and just had incredible, incredible like family

court dad energy. Just real, real, real, really bad vibes coming off that dude in waves. Extremely ex-con looks. I was like, yep, that's definitely him. Because I saw the photo of him in that article and his weird face was seared into my brain. And I was like, let's get out of here, kids. Come on. So when the major parties discovered prospective candidates who would hit a section 44 hurdle and there have been several, they quickly replace them.

But the minor parties don't seem too worried about eligibility. While most of these people wouldn't have a hope in hell of being elected, on one legal view there is a danger of a high court challenge if someone was elected on the preferences of an ineligible candidate. So it's creating a whole bunch of knock-on issues that are going to come up after the election because basically yeah there's going to be a bunch of candidates who have been disendorsed by the party that they were running for and they're going to continue running. Like the liberal candidate I I cannot remember her name,

who was disendorsed because of a whole bunch of Islamophobic Facebook posts, shockingly. And she has announced that she's going to continue to run as an independent. And she's the one who claimed that her account had been hacked and all the posts had been doctored. So, she was like, all right, so a bunch of these were real where I was saying bad stuff about Islam, but some of them, the slightly worse ones, those were fake. Those were fake. Super legit.

Yeah, like, I don't, Did she like deactivate the whole account in the end I think? But it's it's very funny to me to just say, oh no, nope. No, it wasn't me. I think she said I'm going to, I'm going to like refer the posts to the police, the classic move. I'm ringing up the AFP and saying, hey, figure out where all these posts came from. Ringing the police to ask them to sort out, who posted all this racist stuff to my Facebook page? Not all of the racist stuff. But some of the other stuff.

The most racist stuff. I posted some of it, but some of the other stuff. The most racist stuff. I think I know who posted it. Having a few beers and then getting online and then being as racist as you really are. That's who did it. So it's going great for those guys. Let's kick on and see what else we got. What else we got here? We have One Nation candidate for Leichhard. One story's from I guess the Korean mail was it? The cans post. The cans I believe. One Nation candidate's CD social media presents, boobs, bums and creepy captions. So this man has not been disendorsed. Uh, is worth noting. He is very much still in the running and has no intention of not...

No, wait, I didn't need to do a double negative team. Wait, yes I did. Oh, for fuck's sake. Anyway, he's still gone. He is disgraced in the sense that anyone that looked at the article went, but not disgraced in the, like, sense that looked at the article went, but not disgraced in the like sense that his party has had to reject him. That he's been forced to stand down. Yeah. One Nations candidate for Leicard is in the firing line of a sexist social media poster depicting him groping breasts in Thailand, posing with a topless woman and captioning a woman's cleavage with the words, mmm, yummy. Ross McDonald is an unknown quantity that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that that that that the that that the the that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is that is that is that is that is that is that is that the. the theat theat theat theat theat theat the. He is the the. He is the the the, the the is th quantity in the race for Leicard.

He did not turn up for the voting ticket ballot draw, was missing from a candidate's debate this morning, and his election core flutes are nowhere to be seen. His chief public presence appears to be on Facebook, where his photos are available for all to see. In the wake of a high-profile One Nation candidate, Steve Dixon's resignation after the broadcast of footage of him at a strip club in Washington, Mr. McDonald's choice of images raises serious questions over the party's candidate vetting process. Does it? Um, like not questions I've never had before. Just asks the same questions again.

Among the photos is one which has been removed since the cans post made contact this morning showing Mr. McDonald holding raffle tickets in front of a young, topless woman's breasts and another of him grabbing a bucks and ladies bosom in a bar in Thailand. Other images include a digitally altered picture of a naked woman with four legs meeting at a torso, each set in a sexually suggestive pose without a head in sight. Now, I think it's really difficult to overstate how upsettingly like David Cronenberg body horror this photo is. Yes, it's not a good one. Would you like to try and just describe it for us, Ben? Well, I mean, I think that, um...that Chris what's his name from the cans post did a pretty wonderful job there Chris Calcino I believe his name is. So if you took a mannequin. A mannequin where the legs... well two mannequins. Yeah if you took two

mannequins yeah if you took the very specific... the legs... Well, two mannequins. Sorry, yes, if you took two mannequins. Yeah, if you took, you know, the very specific sort of legs up leaning back pose that women giving birth make. Feet up on the stirrups and everything. Yeah, so you took that, a female, a body that was doing that, and then you truncated the body just below the breasts, and then you joined it with the body of someone that was doing downward dog, truncated about six inches above the hips, and then you joined it together so that in both instances feet were making contact with the floor. It sort of forms... You know what, there's really no animal that this compares to.

No, especially because like one set of legs is backwards. Yes. So I guess you know maybe you could travel around doing a series of somersaults or front flips. So funnily enough the front legs are in the same structure as those legs of an ant or a spider you know how they sort of they go up and then they go down. Oh yeah. Whereas the real legs are as if humans walked on their knees and everything from the knee onwards was kind of maybe just there for balance purposes.

It is just absolutely like... Here's two sets of fuckholes. It's the implication of the image. Yes, and to me, that's what's so upsetting about it is that like, it's really one thing to like, you know, post a photo of like a big-titty bikini model and be like, it's really one thing to like, you know, post a photo of like a big tidied bikini model and be like, oh, check out the rack on her, you know, or whatever.

That's, you know, I can look at something like that and say, yes, a lot of men feel like that about women in terms of objectifying them. That's fine. This one really says, wouldn't it be great if women were just disembodied vaginas on a torso without arms or a head? No mouth to talk to you. No mouth, but they must scream, you know. It's unclear how the body gets nutrients with the absence of a mouth. Well, that's because the only reason that it exists is to be fucked by Ross McDonald of a One Nation Party, I guess. These items are not of a concern to him.

In a photo of a large breasted woman with her cleavage on display, Mr. McDonald has written, Wow, what a heart! The cleft of her mammaries has been tagged with the words, Mmm, yummy, which pops up when the cursor hovers over the top. Another shows a woman saying, Save a virgin, do me instead. Mr. McDonald's caption for that image reads, whatever you say, boss. A digitally altered image depicts a naked woman made to resemble a horse. I would argue that it's not made to resemble

a horse. It is in fact made to turn the woman into like a type of hairless and naked centaur. Yeah, certainly if... So traditionally as we all know the centaur, or as Americans for absolutely no reason say centaur, not sure about that one. Fucking Usually half torso of a human being Body of a horse Yeah, so the torso of a human beginning at where the neck of a horse would normally begin. Certainly, yes. Whereas this is human torso, human legs, and then extruded from this first set of legs.

More human torso. More human torso, and then another set of legs. Now, as you probably know from looking at a horse, because horses, front legs, I think they're called like ungular grade or whatever, they don't have a forwards knee joint the same way that we do on our legs. It's not exactly how they work because they're not equivalent to knees. But if you look at a horse, you could roughly say that, the front legs. It's not exactly how they work because they're not equivalent to knees, but if you look at a horse you could roughly say that the front legs and bat legs, the horses, the knees on them are opposite to each other, whereas that is

not the case for this because this is just two sets of human legs. So it wouldn't really be able to move like a horse. There's just, there's so many questions raised, does the horsewoman have two vaginas? Well, two sets of internal organs? Do the intestines make a pass-through of the first set of hip bones? Yeah, does it just... It's honestly just a mess. Does the ribcage, is there a second ribcage inside the second bit of torso?

Well, I feel like that would interfere with the hip bones from the first set. And if you look at how her spine sort of curves out as well, that has got to just be exhausting. Because you sort of, you're popping, you'd want to rest, surely. And I'm not sure how that would be possible. So theoretically, this is meant to be some sort of fetishistic image, right? That... Well, I would argue that perhaps, perhaps these many questions about what's going on with the internal organs of this naked lady centaur. Maybe that's what you know

Ross McDonald's referring to when he captioned the image, hmm, interesting thoughts. Now I cannot stress this enough. The mm is four m's, all capital, followed by four exclamation marks. There is a space, there is four periods, uh, their is four M's, all capital, followed by four exclamation marks. There is a space, there is four periods, a space, interesting thoughts, no further punctuation. Mmm, interesting thoughts. Hmm, I would note as well, just going back a bit in this article where it talks about how one nation candidate Steve Dixon has now stood down. So he was the one that was in the Al Jazeera documentary about the guys from One Nation

being accompanied by an undercover Al Jazeera reporter to the United States where they try to solicit tens of millions of dollars from the NRA and the Koch brothers in order to try and legalize firearms, different firearms in Australia. Now, apparently there was footage that they obtained of Steve Dixon in ASTRIP Club with the undercover Al Jazeera guy, just generally being very gross, very sexist and racist and misogynistic when he's like groping the strippers, he's asking them to grab his dick in the strip club. He's talking about how the women in the club with the small breasts are no good Worthless these small tittied women are worthless to me says Steve Dixon and

He also has a lot to say about how Strip clubs are so much better in the Philippines because they they take everything off and they dance up on the bar and shit like that he says lots of really cool phrases like th like thi. I've, I've. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I've the. I've their. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've the, I've had the, I've had the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've the, up on the bar and shit like that. He says lots of really cool phrases like, I've had more Asian than I know what to do with, and things like that. And I would note that there seems to be a recurring motif of the One Nation candidates here with, like, lots of photos of themselves in like Southeast Asian strip clubs and talking about South, South Asian like strippers

and sex workers and stuff, which like, look, there's also certainly a reading of this that like, okay, so this guy went to a couple of strip clubs, right? This is Ross McDonald. Maybe that's all it is, because from the images, sure, you know, he's he's certainly groping one of them in a picture and whatever. Maybe this is like, I don't know, that's just what he was, it's just strip clubs, nothing, it's weird, but's not like, okay man, but there's like just, so one of the photos that wasn't included in the article, this is from, this article went up and I look straight to his profile to see what other images he had posted, and he had deleted the ones that were included in this article, but he left a couple up there,

and one of them, this is just so fucking weird like because I mean it's pretty obvious what the implication is to me but I mean I will leave this to your judgment Andrew so it is a photo of a Thai woman in a sort of combined bath shower cubicle toilet immediately behind her toilet immediately behind her. Toilet immediately behind her. And then in the comments he has just written, this one is 48 years old, believe it or not. This one.

This one. Something very fucking... If you would like my uncharitable interpretation of this... Yes. It is that Ross McDonald has had an encounter with a sex worker in Thailand and then he has taken her into the well-lit toilet of the hotel room that he is in, had her stand there while he takes a photo of her and posts it to Facebook describing how she is actually far older than he thinks

she looks. And like, this is the thing, right? I think, you know, the recent stuff about like, Nationals MP George Christensen, all of the stuff about him having spent more time in the Philippines than he did in Parliament over the last several years, having spent like a third of a, what, he'd spent like hundreds of days, he'd spent like 200 something days, almost a full year of the preceding three years in the Philippines. This is a national senator who his entire talking point is about standing up for the area that he lives in and representing local issues and people like, well, how are you going to do that when you never actually in the country?

And obviously people immediately make a lot of very unsavory, people draw a lot of very unsavory conclusions about this sort of stuff in terms of, again, the type of things that a lot of middle-aged, gross, racist, Australian white guys would be doing in the Philippines when spending a lot of time there, in the Philippines, or in Thailand, or, you know, any of these countries. There are specific trades that are well known there. And I think that when you take, when you take as a whole, the attitudes that these people have about women and that they have made very clear over their political careers and in the cases of this guy like Ross

McDonald, his years and years of posts to Facebook and all that sort of stuff, it's very hard not to think like, well, you're very obvious disdain and dehumanization of women, combined with the seemingly disproportionate amount of time you are spending in countries well-known for their sex trades, combined with public comments that you have made about, like Filipino and Thai women, and having more Asian than you know what to do with and how strip clubs and stuff are better in those countries it's very

hard not to hear all of those things and form a very specific image of the type of man you're talking about here. Yeah. I don't think that it's like too much of a leap to go to that it's like too much of a leap, too much of a leap to go to there. There's, pardon me, now I do have a list here. If we want to round this off by just trying to really hammer home to you, the listener, how well it's going for political parties in Australia at this point in time. This is from a roundup from The Guardian, their live blog that they do during weekdays,

so I assume it would have been by Amy Remicus. And she has posted here, so who has been disendorsed slash resigned since this election was called? I could have missed some people here, but by my count. Jeremy Hearn from the Liberal Party for Islamophobia. Steve Dixon from One Nation for being Steve Dixon in a strip club. Peter Killen, liberal, for homophobic comments, including comments about colleague Tim Wilson. Melissa Park from Labour for comments that Israel's treatment of Palestinians was worse than the South African system of apartheid.

Where's the lie? Where's the line? But yeah, the Melissa Park thing was interesting because she wound up having to resign. Except that when she did, she was like, I'm not, you know, the things that I said weren't wrong, but it's derailing stuff for my party. So I'll step down. Weirdly enough, Australia has very much the same situation as the states where there is just this bipartisan dedication to insisting that Israel has never done anything wrong, even while

they're like shooting reporters and medics and children and all that sort of stuff. Some news was going after a Greens candidate for like a young Greens candidate posting an image that was like it was just an any like one of those like shit posting memes but the text was Israel I I think you would mean occupied Palestine. Yeah whatever. Yeah. They were like look at these horribly anti-semitic remarks. Wayne Kurnath from Labor for anti-Semitic comments. Jessica Whelan from the Liberal Party for Islamophobia. Murray Angus from the Liberals for officially for breaking party rules, which was actually because he said that he had nothing bad to say about the candidate

he was challenging from the Labour Party, Richard Miles. So unofficially for being too nice. Luke Creasy from Labour for lewd comments on social media made in 2012. And then there were a bunch of Section 44ers. So again, that is people who have been disqualified due to Section 44 of the Constitution, including Kate Otsky of the Constitution, including Kate Ots Osky from the Liberals, Cordinion from the Liberals, Sam Kyle from Labour, Mary Ross from the Labor, James Harker Mortlock from the Nationals, by Charlie Gosh from the Liberals.

James Harker Mortlock? It's a pretty fun name, isn't it? It's like a... It's horrifying sounding to me. Hark or Mortlock sounds like a disease you get where your bones fused together. And he can't bend his knees anymore, he's got Harker Mortlock. He hate to hear about it. And Helen Jackson from the Liberals, she says, I'm sure I've missed one or two. It's been a big few weeks. So all up in a couple of weeks there, we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirty, forty, fifteen people who have been disqualified as candidates due to either extremely repugnant personalities and histories of public comment, or never having been eligible for the first place, and in some specific cases, having been the replacement for someone who was not constitutionally eligible, who has then also been ruled out for just being a real bag of shit. I vaguely recollect there being a graph in that article that was like a bar breakdown of the cause of people dropping out it was like seven for section 44, seven for social media posts, one for being too nice to opponent.

Yeah, so it's going great I'm sure that it will only continue to get worse as things go on. I guess some it has been interesting to see how this is portrayed in the media because I guess you know as as you said about the One Nation candidate he's not standing down and they're not asking him to. Very clearly One Nation as a party has a very different relationship with the media than other parties do. One Nation has a very adversarial relationship with the media. They portray themselves.

It's really like a very lightweight version of the Donald Trump stuff of like, oh, I'm an outsider and the media hates me, even though they have an extremely Symbiotic relationship with the media Pauline Hansen has had a huge amount of help from the mainstream media in Rehabilitating her image and allowing her to get re-elected to the Senate There was an interview that she did after Steve Dixon stepping down on whatever the fuck it is today to-night or a current affair or something with Tracy Grimshaw. I watch this thing. I watch this this this thine thine thine thine thine. I this thine. I this this thine. I this thine. I thine. I thine. I this thine. I this thine thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi thi thi thi. I thi. I the media. I the media. I the media. I the media. I the media. I the media. I the media. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thine. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi thi the th is today tonight or a current affair or something with Tracy Grimshaw. I watched this thing and just fucking yelled at the TV while it was happening because it was the most softball shit you have ever heard the entire thing was cast in this light of like Pauline

Hanson why have you a feminist icon, betrayed by so many men? Just fucking absurd. In fact, I think for the bonus episode this week, I would like to actually just play that interview and stop it and dispute every fucking thing that Tracy Grimshaw says, just the most ludicrous stuff in the world. She even gets to the point of saying to Pauline Hansen like, look, look what, this is, like, just, just, just, just, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. imshaw says. Just the most ludicrous stuff in the world. She even gets to the point of saying to Pauline Hanson like, look what, look what this has done to you. How do you do it? How do you go on? It's like she shouldn't go on. She should fuck off. Like as though it's somehow not related to her at all that all of the candidates that she runs either, you know turn it turn to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho the to be the the to be to be the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thu. thu- thu-folu-folu-folu-fu-fu. things. things. things. things things tho tho thu thu thu thu thu thu-n. that all of the candidates that she runs either, you

know, turn out to be massive racist shit bags, turn out to have views so incompatible even with her own that they immediately split off after being elected and run as independence, that's happened over and over again and she acts like it's just this weird coincidence or like it's some sort of character defect specific to like, you know, men who haven't stood by her as opposed to you chose and approved all of these people and ran them for office under your party's name. And when it turned out that they were all severely, like morally, and in so many other ways deficient,

somehow she's the victim of this? Absolutely perplexing stuff. Pretty weird. But yeah, so One Nation have a very different relationship with the media. So they can get exposed for this stuff and have to not have to step down because you know people like one nation voters think that it's just the media doing them dirty. But yeah it'll be interesting to see how this goes as things go on because the media was portraying like I found it very strange that the liberals have lost more candidates for more actual reasons, as in for having said grossly, grossly

inappropriate things about ethnic communities, minorities in this country, which again I would argue is actually part of the liberal's core conservative pitch to voters anyway. But they've lost more people for this sort of stuff and they lost like I think at some point there three candidates in a day and yet the media was running stories saying ooh you know this whole thing with labor and this Luke Creasy guy that they haven't disendorsed yet over his comments from 2012. It's sucking all the momentum and air out of Bill Shorten's campaign.

It's like, well, why is it not having any kind of damaging effect on Scott Morrison that they're just hemorrhaging candidates for genuinely fucked up reasons? Who knows? just hemorrhaging candidates for genuinely fucked up reasons. Who knows? It's probably also worth noting that, like this issue, well, the Section 44 stuff does, but this stuff does not affect the far right parties at all. Like, well, I guess further to the right than One Nation. I mean, One Nation, well, they kept Ross McDonald and they will probably keep the majority of people that do any of these sorts of fuck up. So while liberal and labor are men the Greens and everyone

else are forced to ditch their people, you know, you look at fucking, um, whatever the Fuck Annings party is called conservative national party I think maybe yeah they did a tweet that said we don't want Muslim or black immigration they just straight up said the word of the leader of their party said that yeah like they've they've come out they've said something that is explicitly racist and you know obviously that's the party line that. Yeah, like they've come out, they've said something that is explicitly racist and you know, obviously that's the party line, that's an official party statement and no one's getting disendorsed for that. Well, when you look at the thing with Pauline Hanson and Steve Dixon as well, again, he was caught on film, like over a course of the film, played to the public, going to the

US and actively seeking tens of millions of dollars in funding for what was explicitly stated in his own terms to be, like seeking out the political influence to change the laws in Australia over how people are elected, how laws are changed, and in order to legalize just, you know, like assault style weapons and to legalize gun ownership here in the same way that it is over there, he was actively canvassing like on how to do damage control when there's a mass shooting all this kind of stuff and he wasn't forced to stand down over that he wasn't forced to stand down over that because like he literally blew the

whole thing off as oh well I'd had several scotches and he did the same thing about the strip club stuff where in both of these cases he tried to play the whole thing off as I had been drinking and the the the the the the the the. the. the. thi. th. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. I the. the. the. the. the. I was not the. I was not the. I was not the. I was not the. I was not the. I was not the. I was not the. I was not. I was not the. the. I was the. I was not the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I'm not to to to to to to to to to to toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. in both of these cases he tried to play the whole thing off as I had been drinking and therefore was not was not in control of my faculties and I'm not responsible for what I said or did which to me is like just so completely unacceptable as an excuse for a thing it's like somebody saying oh well I went out and got really drunk and cheated on my wife, but it's not my fault because I was drunk and I didn't know what I was doing. Like no, you're still very much responsible for your actions, including the actions of getting so drunk that you don't know what you're doing. But like he's very clearly,

clearly, in all of the footage that's shown. He's very clearly not like paralytically drunk. He's not falling down or anything. He's not slur in his speech. He's just going about his business. He's very clearly doing what he wants to do in all of this stuff. Yeah he's you know certainly still sober enough to be able to articulate a request for the stripper to put their hand on his their hand on his dick so. Yep, all that kind. that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind. that kind that kind th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. theeee. te. teeee. thee. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the hand on his dick. So, yep, all that kind of stuff. So, but he was forced to stand down over the, you know, grabbing ladies' jugs and the strip club and stuff because that conflicts with One Nation's purported values as, you know, of their family values as a party. Traditional Western biblical values. So they can manage to escape by on, yes, we're trying to legalize guns and take the tha th. tha th. their th... their th.. their their their their their th. A th. th. their. their. their. thoom. their. thoom. thoom. thoom. th. thri-and, their. thrie. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And, their. And, their. And, tod. And, tod. And, toda. And, today. today. today. today. today. today. today, today, today, today, today today t escape by on yes we're trying to

legalize guns and take foreign donations and all this sort of stuff but you know and they can cast all of that stuff as well as this was a big sting and we've been we've been you know targeted by the media. We've been bushwhacked. We've been bamboozled by Al Jazeera a foreign a, a foreign, what didn't you call it, the Al Jazeera? The Aljazeera, you know, coming in from outside, from a Muslim-owned network, trying to, try to trick us and do all this stuff. It's worth noting as well that Al Jazeera did not screen this footage from the Strip Club which they had obtained. And they said that they did not want to and that it did not give permission for it to be for it to be

run by 7 but they ran it anyway and so you know it's very interesting that like Channel 7 again they have done a lot of they've been very complicit they've been very complicit, they've been very complicit in the rehabilitation of Pauline Hanson's image. And they ran this stuff because it's tabloid shit to them, you know? Yeah, whereas Al Jazeera had said, we did not give permission for this to run, and they didn't run it in their own story because it wasn't relevant to their stuff, thrown, their stuff, their stuff, their stuff, their stuff, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, th.............. So, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, than, than, to, toea.Auuuuuuuan, toeauuan, than, than, than, than, than, than, thtrying to legalize gun laws and all that sort stuff. But you know, I mean, you can look at a billboard of Pauline Hansons where, you know, she's got the, she's got the tag line up on the billboard that says, um, well, what, what's

the fucking billboard thing that says like? I say the things that, you know, I say the the the the the the th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin thin thin thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, th, thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th isn't, th isn't, th isn't, th isn't, thin, wasn't, th isn't, th isn't, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin that says like, I say the things that, you know, I say the things that other people are afraid to. I think it's the things that we're all thinking, I think is what it is. But I've never heard of her. Not afraid to say what we're all thinking or whatever. But I've never heard her talk about the 1988 alien science fiction noir alien nation. Which is what we're all thinking about. Which is what we're all thinking about. It's back in my mind palace. But yes, you... Did I give you permission to put that back in your mind palace? I told you to throw that thing out. I said the incredibly unsubtally coded message

of I will go to Parliament and say the things that people call you a racist for saying. Yeah, but yeah, so apparently their limit is the family value stuff. You know, there's another candidate who has not been, again has not been disendorsed by One Nation. He, Stuart Bonds, a 33 year old coal mine mechanic standing for One Nation in the New South Wales seat of Hunter in next month's federal election, made comments in a now deleted video posted to a YouTube channel run by his wife finished tattoo model Sini Ariel. The only thing worse than a gay person with power is a woman, Mr. Bond said in one video.

I don't have a woman boss and I don't have a gay boss and there's a reason for that. It's probably because you don't get to choose who your boss is. In other videos posted to his own Facebook page, Mr. Bond's raised questions about the 1996 board Arthur Massacre. Of course he did. Echoing similarly controversial comments by one nation leader Pauline Hansen. Why was there no trial? A proper trial with the jury done, Mr. Bond said. Why was there a 30-year embargo with the evidence? They're legitimate questions.

Mr. Bond's also labeled the September 11 bin Laden being shot and thrown overboard in the ocean, so we couldn't find out who he was? It's a legitimate concern. Asked by nine news whether he regretted any of his online comments, Mr. Bond said, no, no, no, and that he was, quote, absolutely not a homophob or misogynist. Well, that's cleared up. But he has not been disendorsed for those comments. Because again, he's just saying that he thinks that women shouldn't be in charge of stuff and that gay people suck.

So why would he be disendorsed over that? He's just saying the stuff we're all thinking, apparently. And just as a final note on that, I thought that the... that lady's name was familiar, and that's because two years ago, there was a story that like the ABC ran, it was some kind of like, you know, Australian story thing or four corners or whatever, about a Finnish tattoo model who had left behind her life as a celebrity. I really feel like they're overplaying how famous this lady was in Finland, but who had left behind her life as a celebrity, I really feel like they're overplaying how famous this lady was in Finland, but left behind her celebrity life as a tattoo model and everything in Finland,

to move to Australia and marry a farmer when they met in a tattoo parlor in Thailand, a farmer named Stuart Bonds. So it was this like glowing story about how this lady had like left it all behind to move to a remote community and live on a farm with no phone reception and shit. But apparently they didn't realize at that point that this dude was going to be a one-nation candidate. So there you go. We're all back around.

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