Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 43 - Sega Master Timeline

Episode Date: December 16, 2023

On this week's episode we're discussing the predecessor to the Sega Genesis, the Master System, and we're also taking a dive back through history to talk about the timeline of the Earth!

Sega do what in ten don't. Brain soda. It's the Brain Soda Podcast. I, as always, am your host Kyle, joined by my co-host and cohort Brad how's it going today we're gonna be talking about the geologic timeline but first Brad yes Kyle we're gonna talk about the master system today master system that was one of my earliest systems and then there's the master system today. Master system. That was my earliest. There's systems, and then there's the master system.

Now, exactly. Okay, really quick. Besides like the spin off systems that come in Latin America, particularly Brazil, this thing only sells worldwide 13 million units. And that's like not a lot comparatively. And like between the market share in 1987, so like within the year or a year after launch,

Nintendo has like 87% market share of video games in North America, right? Like, okay. Right, but that is something that like, I always knew the master system is like a pre-cursor to the fourth generation 16-bit

Super Nintendo Sega Genesis in North America Yeah, like I mean the Genesis The first console war that we would have known exactly maybe first hand. Yeah, because it was definitely like it was more primitive. It almost looked like Atari cartridges. Kind of like I just remember it had like right. I'm saying I like a red band right across the top of it. Right. Oh man. But I will say this. In my research, I found that this kind of feud with Nintendo predates all of it. All everything that you and I know of at Cultural.

The NES and everything? Well, the Famicom in Japan released on July 15, 1983. Sega also released a system at that exact same day, called the SG1000. Okay. And that is a precursor. So Nintendo and Sega. So that's that's a big archetype of like what I found in my Researches that like Sega starts is just kind of an arcade company, right?

Porting them in stuff like that then they start developing their own technologies for cabinets Then they start looking at the home market like during the time of the 2600, right? So early, early 80s. Yeah, okay. And then they modeled themselves and kind of get themselves at a place where they released this in Japan, which like they had micro home computer gaming computer, like niche markets. What, okay, when you say computer, you mean like, like we were talking about in the middle gear set like the MSX and things like that Yes, okay a little bit further on After the release of the fg 1000 which they had kind of like remodeled with the

2002 which I always think is a funny name. They came out with a system called the mark 3 in 1986 and in America we knew it as the master system. Came with two nine pin controller ports in expansion bay. It could display a pallet of 64 colors. It had 3D glasses, peripherals, right? A light gun purifrile and light. Wait, 3D glasses? Yeah, for real for real. What the hell? Why did I get this? I'm going to have to talk to my dad.

So I believe every master system came in the built-in game of snail maze, which you apparently could turn on just by holding one and two in the up button when you powered on the system, is that right? Not that I remember. Okay. So from what I remember was you just close the port. Like there was like a little door that you that opened and closed where you put the game in and you close that.

So did you have an on game card? Because that's another thing we got to get into is that there's not just eight brick cartridge games for the master system as we know or in the Mark III, but there are card games. There's little Sega card games which are kind of no- phased out by that system. There wasn't. No, I didn't have any extra anything for it. It's just you could close it and from what I remember, maybe there was some special thing you had to press. There probably was, but there were systems that were also bundled with hang on a port of a Sega arcade kind of classic, right? Alex Kid who predated Sonic as the mascot for Sega and Sonic that had chog later on. Again,

during the long lifespan of the system. That was probably the game that I saw, I bet. Because you're talking like a blue screen thing Hang on was a racing game. Yes, or no, then it wasn't that it really is to me a funny funny story to see how The master system again like is kind of slept on but I'm gonna give you a list because Due to the rivalry that it happened with SG 1000, when they set out to make the Mark III in Japan, which again, we know in America, North America here as the master system, this thing was designed specifically like listen, we want a best or stay pretty lateral with Nintendo performance wise. So this machine really does kind of exceed

the market at the time, graphically, or performance wise, right? Which I can appreciate. Yeah. I remember it being pretty nice, even be like, yeah, it was old, but I had it, right? It was my older brothers. And he was like, you know, I think eight years older than me or something like that. So yeah, but yeah, no, yeah, when you have that kind of dip into history or pop culture that you probably wouldn't otherwise, right? Like it is something that you can help appreciate other than obviously like the relationship you have that person as well, right? Like, well yeah, sure, because like yeah, I didn't live with him and stuff and like it was a kind of a hand me down and like I played it When I was really young, you know, it was before I even had a PlayStation and stuff for sure, you know Right those n64 days and stuff like that. So I you talking 96 97 I think right?

He's 798 maybe even right? 798 maybe even. 888, yeah. Yeah, because I think the Super Nintendo's lifespan kind of runs until 1997. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But again, that's another console war, right? And like, again, Sega set out and looked at Nintendo and was like, no bro, we're gonna like, snipe on right here.

You know what I mean? Like, is it a video comparison or something like that, right? Like they really looked to exceed them graphically performance wise and things like that. And I think it kind of shows because I'm gonna tell you right now just looking over the litany of games that like even in North America where this thing had a smaller release library, right? And Nintendo for as much smoke as I like to give Disney, I do love Disney. I won't tell people all that often, but I just put it out there for the airwaves

of the world, I guess, right? But I do love Disney. Nintendo will smack around companies and put people into some kind of You know, I don't want to make it sound like they're the most unethical company in the world or anything like that But Nintendo also can kind of be a little bit of a bull in the market, right? And they had kind of cinched up things so tight with the NES that like it was hard for Sega to get anything out from third parties. They could like buy a game and then adapt it or like try to port something out from the

arcades, but it wasn't always all that easy. And still this system kind of was a success. It didn't really be or stop, maybe even really slow, but NES, but like, I feel like like, like, animar, so it's one of the things that it has a persistent fanbase and beloved stock of people, but it's like, it's smaller than it should be because there's like other things going out the time. Well, yeah, and I mean, well, the Genesis, that was their biggest one. Yeah, yes, I had the second one.

I'm sorry, I just had a really quickly look. I had the second one and the game, yes. Yes, it was Alex the kid. That was what the game was built in. You did have a, yeah. Yeah, that was it. And it was like a little, you know, you jumped out on different platforms.

Yeah, but. You did have Alex kid and Wonderland. Okay. Platformer, right? That is when they were kind of budgeting the master system and getting it ready to go for the Genesis. But to go back to a point we made earlier like the fourth gen really was a war and had as much competition as it did because the master system was able to survive and keep afloat. One of the things that was helping it stay afloat was Tonka because Tonka toys came in and got the distribution rights for this thing throughout North America and public 30 million into marketing and like Nintendo One of the things that really made it revolutionary and able to handle the market the way that it did post

Industry crash was that it was marketed as a toy. I believe by Mattel So like modeling these things that toys in the eight. Yes, all right again You model it as a toy in the eighties after the crash. I really think that's what makes this, you know, kind of move along a little bit easier. They're about like modeling the game system as a toy. Yeah. Selling it in the toy aisle, specifically in retailers and things like that versus like, yeah, I guess that's the thing. It's almost like, now it's like its own section. Like the game section see you know, it's not even in the toy section because it's in the game It's a lot of electronics. It is right that's true

But it's usually like at the bridge between the electronics and game or toys and a lot of places I think it's just one of the most Plays for sure because if you're not getting the big ticket item, if you're not getting a computer or a TV, both of which are like a part of game, right? Like that's kind of what your big eye catcher is. And like there's physical media there generally, but like that's kind of a dying breed. And like it is for the better to a certain extent at times I would say, you know,

in the terms of global waste Like that is true, but that's why I like buying older stuff too because at least that stuff's not sitting in the landfill somewhere Reduce reuse. Yeah, I'll hold onto that. I'll watch that on DVD until it wears out Like looking quickly for that master system That thing it's $200 that was what I quickly. So I don't think I'll be buying that. $200 that really. No, no to buy it now. So I don't think I'll be buying that.

That's what it was in America. Really. It was $200. Well, it's pretty steady price, you know? But I guess the thing is the backwards compatibility thing where we talk about the Genesis. The Genesis had an expansion to it to read those games. Really?

See, like, I don't mean, well, I guess they still do that with a lot of the things, but like, yeah, I don't know. I do miss the old cartridges and stuff, even though they sucked at, like, reading the games and, I guess, blowing into them. Yeah. Classic, classic, yeah, blowing into it. That actually made it worse. Like, it makes sense now that you blow into it. That actually made it worse Like it makes sense now you think about it moisture onto a chair. Yeah, your bones spit into the games

Yeah, yeah, but it was great. Hey man. We did what we thought we had to do. Yeah The point I wanted to get across to this thing and like I think it's really what gave it this big longevity, is the experiences you could have could rival or exceed the ones you would have on Nintendo, or Atari, or even the arcade cabinet itself sometimes. What were like some of the big games of the Master'some? So, some big notable titles, and like sometimes they're American names for those titles like we've covered something because black belt low key is like a big title for this thing. Is that like a punch out type game? That's the fist of the North Star. It is a sky scroller beat him up or whatever

else. Okay, okay. It was it was re-skinned in North America to be black belt, but it is a fist of the North Star. Really? That's cool. And those regions. Fantasy star, a classic RPG of its time. Montezoum was revenge, a kind of like... I think I had that one. Yeah, it's a pretty dope game. It looks cool. Prince of Persia is also on this. The Disney games for this system are very beloved. Castle, Island, and World

of Illusion, right? Those three games. Okay. Shinobi on the system. Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden? They need a reboot then. They did when we were teenagers for the Xbox.

I know. I know. But they need a reboot that now. Again. So Ninja Guy and Roadrash, Space Heroier, Double Dragon, Power Strike 1 and 2. But apparently 2 is like an absurdly rare find physically and like cost so much money. It's ridiculous from my research. But either way, Power Strike series on Sega Master System, Sonic 1. Sonic the original?

So it came out on Master System. Like this one appeared was late, late, late, and 90, 90, one plus my club. Or before Genesis. I don't know if I didn't look that up if it predated the release of Genesis. Cause that's interesting. But that is where the mask got in kind of a from as well yeah and this thing like I said this

thing had a pretty long lifespan when you think about exactly how things go for it comparatively if you look at the way this thing is designed and laid out just like in terms of aesthetics. There's no way that it doesn't affect the way consoles look to this day. See, I'm thinking of them the second one because the second one is a lot different looking than the first one, I must say.

The second one is the skin down budget game model. Yeah. And I'm not trying to say that to Dunk Honest, that is what it is. If you look the original master system it's this kind of brick block like flat black with red insert machine that just has this look about it. That to me like it reminds me of like the PS4 with that flat edge or something like that. The PS2, right? Like of 1980. You're right, it is like very sharp edges.

Yeah, I'm looking at a picture of it. It's like, because the one I had was a curvy, which they both look really great, honestly. Like I like both of them. Yeah, that is crazy. And to be fair, like if you look at the way that some of those systems end up being when they get that later rendition or come the handheld age and things like that like the way the

game gear looked at the time that that rounded edge does come into so many other consoles that well I'm not trying to say like yeah it's different like yeah it's crazy yeah I didn't like the one I had right like it had that door like slid in and out. It was something, you wouldn't, you can't even see anything like that in any other system. Yeah, you like flip the head over the top of the cartridge,

right? Yeah. Well, like, okay, so like, you know, the NES had like that little swinging hinge door. Now hold on, I want to ask you this, did you have any of the peripherals where you would like slap in another thing over top of it? I don't remember I had if I had anything special. I really like honestly, I just remember having a ton of the games, right?

Okay. I remember having a- And you could use Genesis controllers once that released because it's the 9 pin controller. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, look, like a like a NES controller another couple games that were really big and notable were hang on Outrun Alex kid series the Wonder Boy series master of darkness a kind of Castlevania Metroidvania-esque game really rastrand A big arcade copy over whatever a port there There's so many, you get like, yeah.

Yeah, man, dude, there are way more. So yeah, man, I gotta say, when we brought up the master system during Fist of the North Star, and I heard about Black Belt, I really didn't think it was much of anything. Learning that it was like own title for this system and then looking at how big the system was, I really was excited.

I think we're going to keep going and we might jump in the fourth generation because without this, there's not the base that Genesis has to stand up to the jug or not that Nintendo is. Again, 87% of market share by 87 going into 88. Like, now I will say this really quick before we jump out when we come into the European regions

like going into 89, they make a big push and I would say that's another big reason why Genesis had a lot of the support that it did was that like they were making waves and that was the one big win for them at the end was like yeah man like boom we're gonna try to take Europe for as much as we can. You know it's really crazy because like when you're talking about this with Nintendo and Sega and like Sony getting into it and Microsoft, it is literally like evolution. And like kind of how our earth has evolved

and animals have evolved. You know, like they've gotten micro-amplex, different ones of rose, different ones of fell, and everything, it's crazy. Yeah, it's almost like the gen wars or whatever, right? Like it starts with Sega Nintendo and then it ends up being Sony and Microsoft 20 years, 30, 40 years later. It's pretty crazy, man.

It kind of makes you wonder where it's going to go next with the next era as in generations are. Exactly. Same with on Earth, you know what's after us. So yeah, the geologic time scale or the timeline. This came to mind because I'm always asking you Kyle, do you know about this thing? Do you understand this time period and stuff like that? And it seems like no, it's not even like that. I mean, but like I did want

to explain, like let me give you a basis for this in episode 43 Well, you know, so I know the other day like I literally did think about that But there's a period of episodes where whenever you brought something up I felt like I was like is this the you know, is this this era is this that era? Exactly. Yeah, something that I know when we talk about like maybe the most important era, right? The icing. You're right. The icing is important for humans for sure.

Like, yeah. Yeah. So throughout the history of all the events that we've talked about on this, I don't probably have the best frame of reference to things and have frequently asked about it, you know, like, yeah. So I do appreciate maybe a little bit of a breakdown. Hopefully our listeners will too. Definitely. So we're going to talk about like, like, imagine a timeline, right?

A 4.5 billion year timeline. It's really, it's hard to imagine that, right? Because it's 4.5 billion years. No, I'm, I'm in for it though though because I feel like that's easier for me to swallow Then is the expanse of like what we know as a society You know what I mean like that's a lot we know ten errors. Yeah, so why don't you tell me about the first one? Okay, so we're talking 4.5 to be technical 4.5667 billion years ago, billion with a B. So, bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo So the timeline is divided into four eons.

And those eons are subdivided into auras. And those auras are subdivided into periods. Okay. And you can really like get deep, deep into it. We're going to kind of get deep into it. We'll get down to periods. But we're not really gonna talk about the periods until recently, you know, until like the

So we're gonna fluctuate on the scale though too a little bit and we're gonna go out and go this we're in this Eon real quick that's hit all the arrows maybe a couple of the periods and jump back out right yeah okay I dig it I'm in not until like 538 million years okay present, we'll start talking about periods. So like until like really recently, if you think about it, right? Cause we're talking about 4.5 million years ago. Yep, so the Ians though, they're separated into the Hadean, the Archaian, the Proto-Rozovic,

and the Phanerozoic Ians, okay? Okay. And the Hadean was the beginning, you know, the Hadean like Hadesades think of it like that right? You're thinking like you know like hell and That was because it kind of was you know the formation of the earth right it was 4.56 billion years the primordial Right, like yeah, yeah, yeah, when it was like a you know fireball essentially like a bunch of magma It lasted from a half a billion or you know 500 million years till 4.031 billion years ago

Is when this was for the beginning till then and nothing lived at this point obviously because it was like a ball-mult magma But it finally started cooling towards the end of this and that's when the ocean started forming And we're not exactly sure how the whole ocean started forming, but it was probably from the moon too, exactly. That was around this time, right? Around the transition from now into the arcane, which was the next one. And that occurred from 4.031 to 2.5 billion years. So can I ask really quick, are the events of the potential or believed, splitting of the moon, forming in the oceans?

Are those the exact distinct timeline markers to say, post this you're in the archaic, or is that like just kind of tail end stuff or stuff that occurs within? Yes, I think it was, I think it is because like the that is a thing that they do like separate a lot of these times with like this thing Happened this thing happened, you know, I mean it makes sense But I mean that's an important distinction. Hey sans oceans Yeah, yeah, I kind of want to know that oceans were before and after this point.

Yes, absolutely. Yes, because there was this event called the Late Heavy Bobbardment. And that's when a ton of different asteroids hit Earth. Meteorological events, right? Exactly. That's probably when the moon was formed and all that. And that was the beginning of that. And after that, it was able to cool down and get water and all that and once it was a water world there was times where it had ice ages like you mentioned but the ice age

you're referring to is very very late or distant from now but there was times where like the earth was like a snowball almost it like it was completely, or it's believed to, you know, be... Okay, right. Eventually, though, around 3.8 to 3.5 billion years ago, life came about. And we talked about this again in episode 5, how that happened. But there were these single-celled organisms that, lack nuclei, called prokaryotes, the think of things like bacteria, right? Prokaryotes, or perukaryotes. There right? Prokaryotes or peri-arriotes? Uh, there's a million ways to say, I like to say oats.

Yeah, peri-arriotes. Okay, okay, okay. But, you know, yeah, definitely. The atmosphere at this time was really rich in methane and sulfur and things like that, and very little oxygen, actually. So it wasn't until photosynthesis started in the late arcade when the oxygen actually became like part of the Earth's atmosphere and rich and stuff. Really? So like the atmosphere is what changes next before ocean. See, I would think the inverse that you would have to have the ozone and atmosphere. I would think the atmosphere would kind of have to be set in place for the oceans to know you know the weird thing is is that for the entire existence of Earth's history of life

they've kind of life has shifted the earth you know like it's really changed like the whole entire earth right yeah you know it's pretty crazy because like I mean humans are the next one right how could it not everything looks a footprint right to a certain extent. Yeah, it really does, it really does. So like, yeah, at this time, before there was oxygen, the organisms you sulfured instead of oxygen to, you know, do their chemical processes and stuff.

They were still carbon-based life forms, but they just didn't use oxygen as their, you know, respiration. Right, right. And all that. It's pretty crazy to think about. And there was a mass extinction around at this time when an oxygen-loving cyanobacteria started photosynthesizing

and then releasing that oxygen. Right. And through that, like all these bacteria and stuff died. Like these mass extinctions happened throughout our history. And if we're going through what now again, unfortunately, thanks to humans. Right. Right.

But also with this oxidation event, like metals such as iron and stuff became oxidized, you know, you get rust and things like that. There wasn't rust before. So like you gotta think it's like, there's different things that are changing the landscape of the earth. Right.

That's exactly what I was going to say. It's almost like you see almost with industry, unfortunately, is like, sans this big landmark event discovery, whatever, you know, example fits. Things change dynamically and it becomes a new era. Exactly. Yeah, it becomes a new period, whatever it may be, right? And like, the distinctly kind of shows.

Yeah, it's crazy, man. Like, it will go on to CLC again. The next EON though is the Pro-Rizzoic EON. And that lasted from 2.5 billion years to 538 million years ago. So, worth this the longest, yeah, right? This is kind of the in-between time from like when life formed to like when complex life Like really took off, okay? Which complex life we're considering as like animal canals? Yes, multi-cellular like serious like you know like Okay, so even even florund like serious, like, you know, like,

Okay. So even even florunds like that too though, right? Like, Oh, yeah, definitely all that stuff. Everything. Because right now there's just bacteria, right? You gotta think like, or not even just bacteria like single cell organisms, right? Well, I'm just, I'm just trying to be sure I'm thinking complexes does not mean sentient, you know what I'm saying? Exactly. And this is the one thing like we had to think like I'm going through a ton of history right now like in time, I guess a ton of time We're talking two billion years. Yeah, we're at 2.5 billion years ago, right to 4.5 so you've passed billions of years now

Right so for a billion years a billion years there was nothing but bacteria. More than that. Yes. Like there was molds and funguses and different. Nothing, none of that, that wasn't there. Yeah, because those are more complex. Exactly. Yeah. Single-celled organisms. For like almost three billion years.

Yeah. It's crazy to think about. It really is. For the majority of life, like really, we're, like, we'll get to this. Humans were a blink of an eye. Like I said, from 2.5 billion years to 538 million years ago, the protozoic Ion. And this was divided. We'll get into some some eras now, right? We weren't talking about eras. Exactly. Now you get your

eras, right? So we're gonna get a little we're gonna a little slower now You know, we just went through billions of years We'll go down to some of a few millions right and this is subdivided into three of them You got the paleo the mezzo and the neo proto-rizolic eras, okay? And the paleo proto-rizolic era is the longest of the eras in earth's time line and It's one the continents first stabilized okay so this is when earth this is continental this is when well when earth came around like when there was land from like up until 2.5 billion years ago there was no land pretty much there was a little bit of land and stuff

but like there wasn't like masses of land you know okay So it's literally the surfacing of land, like once land from like volcanic activity and like, you know, all that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And around this time, like I said, the arc, the end of the arcane of into this, this is when like the ox, the great oxygenation event happened, went from like, it went up to like 2% of the earth's atmosphere. And like, just that 2% made it crazy. Yeah, it's like 20% now. It just changed things. There was no oxygen in the atmosphere.

You had 2% oxygen and it just changed things. Right. Yeah, because it was like 10% of what it is now, I guess. Like that was a catalyst. Right, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And eukaryotes emerged during this time. During the paleoprotol. Because we were talking about eukaryotes emerged during this time, during the paleo proto-resolution.

We talked about eukaryotes. Okay, sorry. Eukaryotes are in episode five, I think. We briefly mentioned it. Sorry. Yes, sorry. Eukaryotes are, they have the nucleus, right? They got the nucleus by theoretically, it's pretty much kind of like Ben solved that this is what happened. But they engulfed, you know, one bacteria engulfed another bacteria and then used that bacteria to make the battery. Yeah, so if you continue for it, yeah, the might have been out. I remember. I'm sorry. I was like, okay, wait a minute, this sounds super familiar. Is this the RNA in the pool? No, this is the thing that like involved something and now you're a battery to fund to be being everything else.

Right. Exactly. So yeah, this is when they emerge, right? Wow. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, you're good.

Yeah, so yeah, you just like, you know, like I'm saying, like there's a bunch of words, all these like, this is stuff that like, yeah, if like, you take like multiple like, semesters of classes out. Every single one of these things that changes the environment and E on era that we're talking about is like some of the most important stuff on the planet. Well, exactly. I forgot to mention

Luca, the last universal common ancestor, which that was like very, very long ago, you know, like when, you know, like first, first came about, obviously. But there was a time, you know, where there was like a population, I hate to think of it as like one thing. It's not one thing. It's not one individual organism.

But you know, there's a population of organisms, a species that was the last common ancestor from everyone. Which was pretty much, you know, the first life obviously, but it's just, I like to call it Luca. It's just a cool, cool LUCA, that's what yeah, you see that. Yeah, that's a cool acronym, I think. Yeah, to go back to the timeline. The mezzo proto-Rozone was the first era where there was a definite geologic record. We can see the bacteria and stuff like that. We actually have fossil records of it throughout the planet right now.

There was stuff before, but like this is like a definite record. Like there's like things you can see very easily. And the continents were pretty much the same. Like the shelves, you know, the continental shelves, the different fault lines and stuff, were pretty much, they were their forerun of at this time, you know? Okay, right.

So at this point, the planet, as we know, and is really making shape, We're taking shape. Exactly. Yeah. Like you have like, you know, these land masses. This is the thing like you like you mentioned Pangaea. Pangaea happens, you know, later during the dinosaur period. Like that's when Pangaea was going on. But the earth's land masses have like came together and separated like multiple times man. Like doesn't at least a dozen times, you know I think throughout history. That's crazy. Yeah, that's why I never realized that. I always thought it was simply just You have one land land mass that emerges again pre-dinosaur

primordial You know earth ascension. I guess is what you would call it right or assemblage Exactly and then pangea separates during continental divide probably post the death of the dinosaurs. Oh, man No evolution like really sparks beyond that. Oh, man. I mean through like that's really always thought that still is like Farward can blinks and some other things exactly like. Like, young earthers. Probably, yeah. Like, is you at least have? Which I'm not insulting, but like, there's people believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Exactly. And like, all this stuff I'm talking about

has like tons of evidence. Like, you really want to like look into what I'm saying. Like, go look into it. There's tons of evidence for all of this stuff. But anyways, also during the mezzo, sexual reproduction occurred and also multicellular organisms occurred. Like those two things completely changed the way organisms evolved, right? Even without Marvin Gaye, imagine that. Yeah, exactly, man. Like these bacteria that come together and like, because before, you know, they just separate on their own asexually, you know, and when you combine two things, you get a mix of

genes, right? You get a mix and you make a new thing. And that makes a gene pool now, right? Exactly. That makes things, you know, evolve faster. Like it's same thing when you have multicellular organisms, you know, you can do more complex things. You know, if you're more than one cell, you can make, you know, that's what our tissues are.

They're just a bunch of cells together. I do a bunch of, you know, multitudes of cells. Exactly. So those two things like really sped things up, right? And that's when the first animal evolved. And animals, like what is an animal, right? An animal is a eukaryote that breeds oxygen that sexually reproduces and it grows from a hollow sphere called the blastula. So like

the way it grows, all animals grow in a specific way. Whether it be a womb or a ten moles life. Exactly. Or a tadpole to an insect, to a human, that we all start as a little spear, a hollow spear, called a blastula. Yeah. And there's a couple other defining things too, but that's what an animal is, right? And around that time, we're going into what we call the phantom-zoic Ion. And this is when life exploded, right? We're going to, we're in the the million we're at 538 million years

So by the times of the first birth and evolutionary stages we're now going into the fennarozoic is divided into three eras and those eras are the paleozoic the mesozoic and the senozoic so these three so these are ones I hear about a lot of the time. Exactly. The affiction obviously, because I'm a door, not smart. But yeah. Yeah, because the paleozoic was when animals become, like, come on to land and stuff, you know? And that's really when, like, that's when life,

like, what we think of as life, you know, as we know it, is a route. Like before, it's just been in the water, right? It's all been water things and like not even like, it was just been like, again, like cells and stuff. Now we're talking like, we're getting corals, we're getting like, you know, different like squid things and worms and like, little four-legged creatures, what is paleozoic is divided into periods now. We're going to get into periods. The Cambrian, the Ordovician, Salarian, Devonian, Carboniferous, and Permian.

And I know it's a lot of them. I'm gonna go quickly through them really quick, right? Except for the Cambrian because the Cambrian is when like everything exploded, right? This is when animals got their body plans, the way worms have that central body plan and coordinates, you know, things that have that central stem. And it's just, if you get into the biology of it, it's crazy. You know, there's the backbone of like the way backbone to work almost. Exactly,

you know, like corals, the way things, yeah. There's different way that like everything works, right? You know, like all these different body plans and get all the balls from that. I would like you look at a like a evolutionary tree. I love it, I love it. That is such a cool picture. That's when like the, man, the Cambrian explosion is like when everything just went crazy, right?

Like I said, like this is when like all the different things like that. And one thing they were dominated by was these Arthur Pods called trilobites. And they're kind of like, you know, pillbug-looking things if you look at them, but they're bigger, you know? And like they dominated for like millions of years. And you find them up, like you find them in fossils.

Like you find fossilized trilobites all the time. Like you find them really easily. You know, that's why they're so popular. But- Oh, okay, okay, okay. So, but the Ortevician though, that's when vertebrates, like I said, the coronates and all that, and the corals evolved, and arthropods during the Ortevician period, they, um, they broke out into land.

So this is like when bugs were the first thing on land, of all the first animals on land, like plants, like algae and stuff like that, where are land? Right, right. They started coming on land and then bugs started coming on land after that. After the Ordovician, there was the salarian and that's noted for like, there was like a mass diversification of fish. It goes from like a jawless to early form of jawfish. So like before they had like little suckers, you suckers, like little eels and things like that, to now even

fresh water species were starting to merge and stuff like that. And that period ferns developed. So ferns were the first big plants that actually grew. You know, that grew more than a couple inches. Now, at this point, things are bigger than average. Yeah. Oh, two saturation in the air in the atmosphere is like bigger than before. I don't think at this time, no, I don't think

there was more oxygen at this time because there wasn't any plants, you know, so like. Are things bigger at this time? Not yet. And I know you're thinking of something, I know you're thinking of something we'll get to that. There's a time. What you brought up or in episode 5, I believe, right?

Yes, exactly. Yeah. Okay. So, after the order of issue, there's the Devonian, which is something called the Age of the Fish. And it's when the early ancestors of modern fish appeared, you know, like most, you know, with the fins and all that. And also, like the four limb vertebrates. That's how fins, you know, with the fins and all that. And also, like the four limb vertebrates, that's, you know, that's how fins, for, you know, fins kind of evolved.

Right, yeah. All right. Like four limbs evolved from fins, right? I guess I'm saying. Right, yeah, you got to think for you to be able to coordinate and move within water, moving streams, things like that, like you're going to develop evolutionarily, something that can move and propel you well for you to have traction across

mass. You develop the equal distance between those two things, right? Yeah, I'm going to talk about there's this specific species. I'm actually going to do an episode on it, except read a book about it when I was in college and I just love it. Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna put that on. Anyways, during this time though, also is when seeds evolved.

So like seed plants, I guess. The seed plants evolved. And this isn't flowers yet. Flowers came later, but yeah. Like actually, I didn't write down when flowers came, unfortunately. Things, like actually I didn't write down when flowers came unfortunately. Things that spread via pollen in our area. Yeah, but like seeds though, like yeah, because ferns had kind of like, they're almost like

mold in a way, you know, they have like spores and kind of, they travel through water and stuff though. Like ferns don't have seeds, it's kind of weird. If you're okay. Yeah, but there was also a mass extinction at the time, another one, the Devonian extinction. And it's not really certain how it happened because it occurred over a long period of time. But it's theorized by some people that it's because of like the development of plants and now fungi too. And fungi with fungi, fungi just changed the world. The cover of this

period though, and also the Permian period. That's when there was a bunch of tropical swamps, like swamps started around that time. This is when it really got, kind of like hot and everything. The atmosphere and everything, the home-dare world was like a really swampy world. Right, right.

And that's where we get our coal. Coal is from this period. It's from that one time period, that little time period. Eating pressure, that's happening, right? Yeah, just from like all those things, like dropping into this like watery, you know, like the water, the low oxygen in the water, like preserve that. And then it like eventually over millions of years, that's pressure. I turned into coal. Yeah, yep. It's just that one time period.

It's crazy to think about. But yeah, like 90% of the coal beds that we mine from are from that. From that area. Yeah. But this is the time which I think you were referring to earlier when there was giant insects. The principal probably came from, and I guess I think

about that. But right, the forgot that. But, right, the air saturation... But there was, yes, there was high oxygen levels, yep, because of like all of this jungle, you know, there was just, it was a plant world, right? It was this jungle world, and there wasn't really like, there was like little like reptile-ish looking creatures, I guess, on land, not really though. It was like, it it was dominated by insects So it was the land of the insects at that time right yeah just this huge like dragonfly insects like dragonflies Actually like ancestors, you know of dragonflies and things like that. Yeah fine around like I didn't look up with sizes But like big big insects Yeah, that's one of the things that kind of develops through fiction too, is like around this time if you were to look at a comic book or read a novel or something like that,

a film, you would probably end up seeing a giant dragonfly because it's well, I don't want to say well-known, but it's known, you know? Yes, the time when like early amphibians and sore absids, which were the ancestors of reptiles, dinosaurs, and birds. And then synapsids, which were the ancestors of mammals, these two apods and synopods, I guess, are synapsids. So the distinct fork in the road for evolution and animal kingdoms.

Exactly. This is when they split off. This is when the mammals split off from the reptiles, dinosaurs, and birds. Right. So, like, right. Another really important distinction is to why you want to have markers for. From here to here, these things happen and it formulates the future going forward and forges evolutionarily,

environmentally, you know, these things happen based on all the errors and eons before exactly going forward. Right. Yeah, this is cool. I'm digging it too. I, man, I'm gonna have to like keep this episode my back pocket. I bet it's a lot, but it is a good way to look at it because I think this is why when we talked about how it kind of jumps from the plants form from the big bang dinosaurs Dinosaur's die we come along

Boom exactly is because it's so hard to go well This happens and then you have the water and then this happens and you have the air it's so much I know we're still talking about like 250 million years ago, right? Like, we're not even like even close to when humans were around. Humans came around like 500,000 years ago. Yeah, ish. You know, like four or five hundred. Yeah, thousands of years ago. Okay. 250 million years ago. So we're okay. So to continue on this, this is the Mesozoic era, right, is the next era, which is from maybe one of the more well-known areas, right? Yes, the Mesozoic is the age of the dinosaurs, right? This is 252 to 655 million years ago, okay? So this is the dinosaur age. But one thing about the dinosaur age is that, well, what modern beliefs,

like Jurassic Park should have been called Cretaceous Park, honestly. Right, it's weird. Yeah, because like the T-Rex and all that is not during Jurassic period. But it starts with, it's the Triassic, then the Jurassic, then the Cretaceous, right? And the triassic has like crocodilians, that's when they evolved in early dinosaurs and terosaurs too, you know, which... Terosaurs, you know, the ones you're thinking, like the flying reptiles at that time, they're not dinosaurs, they're terosaurs.

So what are terosaurs? Terosaurs are their own thing, they're sauropods, but they're not dinosaurs, They're a reptile. Okay. So like a petrodile or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Teradact all that thing. Like all that you're thinking of? Yeah. Yeah. What you're thinking of, that's what they look like, except well, maybe. It's well believed. But they're not dinosaurs, though. There's terrasaurus. They're p- it's p-t-e-r, but they're terrasaurus. Yeah. They're not dinosaurs though. There's terraces. They're p it's pt. Yeah, but They're terraces. Yeah, they're not dinosaurs

Yeah, but then this is so distinction. I never really yeah, but next up is Jurassic, you know the Jurassic period Right, so we're down to periods now, right? We started yeah, it's went on to eras, you know now we're yeah, yeah, holy Yeah, so we're in the dress period now. And this is when dinosaurs like Stegosaurus and the large sauropods, the big long necks and all that, were around. Like those stayed around for a while, but that's when they evolved, right?

Right, right. Functioning to get top foliage and like that, crowns of trees and kind of vary up a little bit of what's in the ecosystem to eat and things like that too. Like is there anything that did that before? Well, I mean, yeah, probably not. No, those were like one of the biggest definitely at that time. Like, well, yeah.

But like, I mean, in the sea, like I'm not even talking about the sea, like, because there's like crazy stuff going on in the sea, too. Still still going on in the sea, like, because there's crazy stuff going on the sea too. Still going on the sea. Exactly. Because there has been, for this point, again, billions of years or whatever, right? Those things called it theasaurus, it theasaurus, that were kind of like dolphins, but they're reptiles,

or not reptiles, but dinosaurs, whatever. And they had these crazy bones, like this bone structure that went around their eyes, that were like triangle bones I just remember that in you know college reading this thing and like it's great They they had like long bills, you know like long bills like dolphins, you know, and like they probably haunted like I don't know if they were as smart as often. It's probably not but is this to help cut through the water and see I don't know I don't remember but like yeah, and they don't know

Yeah, they just had these weird like look up weird. Okay. Yeah, I see HTH I oh Source Yes crazy isn't it isn't it crazy and evil but like it's like a evil dolphin. Oh, I'm so stupid Wow, I know it's just the eyes Is it long big like swordfish like isn't it a weird? Yeah, it's like a swordfish slash like I don't even know what yeah Yeah, like there's this crazy things that like the I don't mean the ocean scares me It does the eyes on this thing looking at a picture. Yeah, the eyes. It's just the eyes so blank and... No. I don't like it. So, the next is the

Cretaceous period. And this is, you know, the late dinosaur period. And this is when, you know, all the Jurassic Park dinosaurs, all the predators, at least, came around. And, you know, the Triceratops, which is my favorite dinosaur, I think, is the Triceratops. But like the T-Rex, the Raptors, and even early birds came around during the Cretaceous period. So during the Cretaceous, you know,

there's this thing, this asteroid that hit just south of America and kind of ended the dinosaurs, which yeah, I mean it sucks, man. They ran out of lives. They had no more token. They did. And this is what I'm just saying exactly, man. Like they're kind of like what have us say to the Genesis. Like, honestly. The dreamcast is I would say Sega's dying days in hardware. The J. Yes. And you know, honestly, it's really like that because the hardware is kind of like birds because you know the games probably made it more money than the gaming systems ever did. That's actually a really good analogy.

So the end of the Mesozoic came with Asteroid and we came to the Cenozoic era and that was 65 million years to now. So like today. Mm-hmm. Yeah, this is like, this is the age of, you know, mammals kind of, but like mammals have been around. Obviously, like they've been around. It's just they've been like little like kind of shrew or like mice, you know, like those type of animals. Like they're a little, little animal. Like they couldn't really get a foothold in

because there's the niches were already filled. Right. With all these different dinosaurs, everything. So yeah, but after that, well, it's right, the level of competition against everything, things that had to compete against dinosaurs and that as well, right? Exactly. Like, it's pretty crazy.

Just think about when that happened, the asteroid hit. So I guess they just, just because they had fur, and the way they like, they could store energy with like, maybe fat reserves. They're probably scavenged. And the flight away really well. Dinosaur's, well, the big dinosaurs,

like they were warm blooded. They were warm blooded. They weren't cold blooded animals. They were like, birds, right? The Cenozoic Era, this is when, like, this is when, again, mammals took over. It's divided into three periods, the paleo gene, the neogene, and the quattenary period. So the paleo gene is when like, the earth recovered, right? From the esterated bench. Right. But it's also the formation of the current

continent placement, right? This is the time. This is when Pangaea broke up. This is the time. This is when Pangaea broke up. And the modern guidance came around. This is also when, like I said, most of the dinosaurs died off. And the birds though, birds survived. That's the thing. They're smaller. I think it's just a smaller animal survived. The bigger animals couldn't survive during the paleogen. That's also when like modern jungles evolved. So early primates and whales and canines and felines

Like late and the late paleogen started evolving, okay? So again, whales Which is weird like within this time actually of evolution started happening kind of quicker at this time Yeah, I'm thinking every time you get to a period, it's happening a little faster, right, exactly. Exactly, all this stuff's really happened like faster and faster, you know, which is kind of crazy if you think about it. But it makes sense though, man, when you're talking about one era,

and one Eon and everything changing off this, like monumental mold. So, yes, 65 million years, man, this is not that long, you know? And again, we're like, yeah, humans are a blink of an eye But you know whales were, you know, they were land creatures that went back into the water So like they went out and back in within like well millions of years So millions of years is so long time. Okay guys, I'm going back to the pool. Millions of years, man

We're still talking about like millions is a long time. yeah absolutely right after this though the neogen grasslands started like grasses came about like this is when the evolution of grass happened and grasses kind of started like dominating the earth because grasses are very like good growing things as you know like I mean everybody has a yard or not everybody, but you know Yeah, a yard's all over America, right? And with that it limited the jungles and the forest and stuff like that and With when you do that you kind of create a different habitat again Well, this is plants

Creating different things on the earth like affecting the entire earth right? Right. Laying out the shape of the future of the planet ecologically. Exactly. So like from this grazing animals, you know, things like horses and zebras and you know, the savannas and all that. When you think of Africa, you know, the savann's and whatnot. Yeah, all that stuff came about apes also enjoyed the grasslands and things like our early ancestors like Australia, the Pithicus and whatnot enjoyed grasslands. We came down from the trees apes

apes. Yes, the apes came down from the trees. I entered these grasslands and Yes, the apes came down from the trees. I entered these grasslands and from that our ancestors evolved from that You know, so we're talking this is from those grasslands. This is when humans started coming about right? Okay, wow and the quiet and airy period is the last period We're talking one of those apes stands up and yep, and this is 2.58 million years ago to present and we could get even deeper I think there's like epochs if I'm not mistaken is the next one which like we're what I think people are saying we're in a different period right now we're at the halo scene I think it's called they're calling it halo scene because we've it's a massive scene right now so they're this, this is the new period.

Wow. Maybe even a new era, if I remember a second. Yeah, this though, from this time to present, it's when most modern plants and animals have evolved, right? From the past like two and a half million years ago, from now, right? This is when we like, what we, most of what we see today came about. And there was a

conventional reality right. Yeah exactly like you know well I mean like the families and stuff of animals and plants that you see you know like all these different like you know like I said like the horses the canines the you know the the felines the you know the different plants you got your flowering plants they came a lot earlier. Flowering plants, your shrubs, and your ferns, and all these things, what we see today is around now. And they're ancestors, though, in a lot of the ones you're developing at that time. Yeah, they're coming to be, but there was a series of ice ages, which the most recent one I think, which will you keep referring to?

I think is around like 10,000 years ago. Oh, there was a series of them though. From that, though, homo sapiens during one of those ice ages, like, or those series of ice ages, they started spreading, right? Right. Homo sapiens evolved from these things, you know. There was many of our different ancestors, but Homo sapiens themselves evolved in Africa. And we spread out from there, going into Europe, in like the Middle East, and then going into Asia, and then down into

Oshianna, like Australia and whatnot, and then finally into the Americas, right? And yeah, the Americas, right? And yeah, that 10,000 years ago, right? Yeah, you know, yeah, like the Ice Age was 10,000 years ago, like which was when we first thought, I think, or like it was like 50,000 and 10,000 years ago, you know, it was a pretty long period of time. Maybe not, I don't know. I didn't look up the Ice Age, so don't quote me on that one, but like it was recent though you know like people in America was very recent even just 400,000 years ago was when like homo sapiens evolved right 400,000 years which was a long time ago it is a long time ago don't give me a rug 400,000 years of long time ago but in the time scale that we're talking about it is. We just went 4.5 billion years and humans are at this tiny little speck of that timeline.

And that's just the Earth. We're not even talking about the 14.5 billion years that the universe has been around. But anyways, that is the geologic timeline. Sorry for that information field thing. I hope you guys liked it. I hope you did. Let me know if you like it, please. Definitely.

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