Brain Soda Podcast - Episode 54 - Red Ribbon Corn

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

On this week's episode we're back covering the third arc of the Dragonball series, and the world's favorite grain, corn!

Be as brave as you can be. A childlike love of fantasy. Ah, brain soda. Brain Soda Podcast. I, as always, am your host, Kyle, joined by my co-host and cohort, Brad. How's it going? Today we're talking about corn, but first, you know, there's times that like you need a ribbon around a tree, you know, like symbolize something, right?

Like a yellow ribbon for like times of war, right? For missing soldiers, POWs. What would you commemorate with like a ribbon, Bradley? Well, I mean, like maybe like cut opening a business or something. You know, you cut your ribbon. Right, okay. Or running through a ribbon when you win a race, I can see.

What about like a red ribbon? Yeah, like isn't that, yeah. Like red ribbon, that's what you cut. Well, what about the a red ribbon. Yeah. Well, isn't that yeah like red ribbon? That's what you cut What about the red ribbon army Brad? Cuz that's what we're talking about today Oh, no, but that's what we're talking about today when we cover the third art in Dragon Ball All right. Hell yeah back to Dragon Ball and I just we mentioned this off air. But yeah, I've been seeing so much crap I think there's something new coming out about in the Dragon Ball Z universe. I have not caught up on it.

But yeah, I think since the last time we've talked about, let alone the release, another one of the movies came out right. Like maybe another series has been announced. So, yeah. So are these like the Bradley movies of our age? Is that like the movies that are coming out? Well, actually there's a there's a whole series that like I really fell in love with on YouTube and it was just short Snippet videos about like why almost every single one of those movies can't happen And it's and it's what inspired me to talk about it in like episode seven or something like that

about like how anime film directly is just like here's a synapsis film that's roughly you know kind of gonna put you into where we are come season two next fall or you know whatever. But one of the things that I find to be so important about this arc overall, because anecdotally it will be important, but we're going to get into that later. With this arc overall, I find it to be important because like we talked about last time, Toriyama has really kind of changed the narrative of his book midstream, right? It's the second arc and he looks to Fist of the North Star and he makes his adventure travel manga more about like these long form battle sequences and that argument arc.

And now you have like another narrative structure instead of a bunch of different obstacles in your race towards the Dragon Balls, you're instead climbing this like ladder system like an army, right? Like different rank-and-file members of your opposing force here. Like climbing, like Mortal Kombat almost. Almost, yeah, laddering in Mortal Kombat and things. Hey, absolutely. But regardless, I mean, the concept is that like you are just building to this apex of

Competition as you go along. Yeah, I don't remember that like the first two seasons I like remember very clearly when we I mean, I'm sure once you start talking about I'll remember more But I'm definitely like the later seasons of Dragon Ball I don't remember as much but I do remember the Red Ribbon Army. Yes And what who was the main bad guy? Well red right so yes the commander red or whatever the head of the army is okay And he has an attache named black and there is another member of the army named blue if you notice there's a color motif that happens here and There is a mercenary Tao or mercenary Pai Pai, I believe, as he's known

as in the manga. We are really not going to be referencing those characters as much today. Black and red do appear throughout this, but very much in like a control center type stance, right? Yes. Okay. We're seeing them as overarching villains like we do with Pilaf. But one of the things that I find to be so important about this book is that I feel like this is where the anime really steps forward and puts the flag in the ground for this series overall, right? As a franchise, or as Toriyama is leading the way with its creativity,

right as a franchise. Whereas Toriyama is leading the way with its creativity, they are the ones who are connecting it and making it all work as a whole collective piece. Not to say that Toriyama's work isn't good standalone in and of itself, but even just some of the stuff they're doing that normally will occupy the role of like filler art, you know what I mean? Like here's a couple episodes to buy us a little bit of time to not catch right up to the manga.

Oh, they're doing that at the time? Well, yeah. So even at this time, even at this time, by the first time you ever meet with Silver, right? Colonel Silver is going to be the first antagonist we meet from the Red Ribbon Armory. By the time that you meet him on the anime, he's fighting with, I believe, Mercenary Tao in the manga. Right? So like... And that's a pretty... They're already like, ugh, let's try to give him some room. That happens a lot in anime.

It does though. You're right. It does happen a lot. This had been a weekly Shounen jump at this point for a year by the start of this arc. So Toriyama never even really thought this series would go much longer than that. So we're already kind of in uncharted territory. And one of the things that I find to be the funniest and maybe the best example of why like the anime is the thing

that maybe we're going to cover a little bit more going forward but I feel like it's the flagship because like technically this arc shouldn't happen according to this very own timeline. Really? So like is this... Eight months have passed technically since the last swish from the Dragon Balls. And it takes a year, right? It's supposed to be a year. Yeah, right. Well, you know, it could change. Stuff could change. And Goku, since the first time him and Bulma have had an interaction,

there have been multiple different like continuity errors or mix ups as to his age from him as a character himself. And he spoke. I mean, yeah, because I mean, it's very like, what is he like, 10 maybe ish, if 12, but theoretically over those eight months, he should be at least 13. Sure. Sure. Well, you know, most a lot of cartoons are. Yeah. Well, right. I mean, but but if you're going to mention a character's age, true, true. but but if you're going to mention a character's age true true Typically if you're gonna have a timeline after that you've made the ball rule and he does grow and he does grow in Dragon Ball Z I'm not in this very series. He will grow from like one level. Does he go?

I thought so doesn't he go to go comes like teen Goku. Yeah, he's like he's actually taller But he's not like I think he's just a little less buff. I really think that's all that it is. He's like maybe an inch or two shorter in design and a little less buff. That's probably all that it is, but still. Regardless, we pick up back with Kid Goku. And again, one of the things that I think makes the anime the trend center here the

flagship for this franchise is that in this first episode of the animes arc we're wrapping everything up in a nice little bow we spend most of the episode actually with none so is it still just Roshi if we're talking about our main cast, just so everybody's still familiar, it is at this point, Goku, Roshi, Bulma, Yamcha, Krillin, Puar, Oolong, Launch. The girl who sneezes and starts shooting the gun and everything else. Okay, yes. Pilaf, Shu and Mei obviously are some antagonists who actually reoccur because they come back in and originally the conflict in the filler that we get for this arc

is with Pilaf, Mei and Shu trying to find the Dragon Balls while Goku's looking for Grandpa Gohan's four-star ball, and obviously the Red Ribbon Army itself is searching for the Dragon Balls for its own nefarious means. There's points where you see the Ox King get taken out by Silver. In the manga and in the arc, even though Silver definitely in the anime gets a lot more character and you spend more time with him. He has a couple confrontations with Goku and his forces have his side or whatever, but still by the time that they actually meet and have a conversation, he blows the nimbus out of the out of the sky with like a stinger missile. Like it's a really cool moment. And then even with that, Goku takes him out one kick slap with the tail.

And we're moving on from there. Okay. And Goku wanders into this town and he finds a robot, which I just love the way that like there is still those travel elements of the mango where yeah you know Goku's stopping you know the Red Ribbon Army from making a forest fire and their search for Dragon Balls he comes over here he beats the guy he takes the Dragon Ball he meets this robot they get in an airplane they fly over this village and they go so high that the capsule airplane starts to like malfunction and the plane crashes in this snowy

village. The Red Ribbon Army is out on the hunt for Goku but he gets dragged through the snow by this young girl who will later be named as Snow which is another you know to go back to our episode one coverage like with Shunmei, Snow was a character that Toriyama just drew in this arc. And then later the TV people at Toei were like, we need a name. Can we get a name? And he's like, yeah, um, Collar Snow. All right. All right. Thanks, man. Hard work in a curatory on everybody. But like, and that's the thing, like, don't don't get it wrong. I think this guy is an inspiration, right? Like for real.

But like he is largely improvisational. He will say that himself. There are times that he forgets characters in his own book. And like it. Well, that's the thing. I don't know, like the whole series, like, I don't know what makes it so great because it really is like not there's not a lot to The series, you know, it's like train train train. Oh, there's a stronger person train train train some more fight train train train And like just talk about like but at the end of the day though It is a very compelling I guess cuz they have a lot of morals and stuff like that inside of the story

We know within it and everything like I think one of the things about this arc in particular At least the part of it that we're gonna talk about today is that Goku at this point is still a child Exactly and Dragon Ball is a lot different exactly like yeah So so at the very least with what we know right now because unfortunately we're kind of acting as if we don't know what's Coming ahead. Yeah. Well, I mean you're refreshing my memory for sure. That's true but my point is is that like something that speaks very much to your point is what we're going to cover next is that this series at times has these really cool locations and Muscle Tower is one of them. locations and Muscle Tower is one of them. Muscle Tower is this command center for the Red Ribbon Army and Colonel Silver has been taken out by Goku. Red

and Black are aware of it and they've spoken to General White who is the leader of Muscle Tower right and yeah And yeah, he has the chief of the village, this jingle village that snowy village that Goku kind of crashed just outside of right. He gets taken in by snow. His parents, they let him know about Muscle Tower, General White and the missing village chief. At that same time, though, we have the Red Ribbon Army show at the door, kind of looking for Goku. Goku takes those guys out and I feel like the Muscle Tower assault,

the fact that in the anime there's this really cool gunship moment that Pilaf's flying castle has, but things like that, the desert always being worked into these early seasons these really cool locales Those things make Dragon Ball Stan. Yes, I do love The light-hearted nature of it It's very true like it's like they really do focus on like the sets more so in Dragon Ball a lot more cuz like you get a Dragon Ball Z it's just like oh here's this like

square that they fight That is because the power creep right yeah very true You have a bunch of people who can fucking go off planet fly all across it in a moment's notice It's not about where they're at or what they're doing That's about the fact that these two most powerful people, wherever they're at, are about to do something right here. Who's gonna come out on top? We can argue about how interesting or not that is,

but it takes a lot of work for your characters to be there and be taken seriously, right? And I feel like this is the groundwork that makes millions of little kids worldwide Wholeheartedly invested in this a second language cartoon, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, there is a whole language barrier and We may not have even known it at the time, but we you know wholesale bought into this shit when we found it Right. Yeah, and it's still like a huge thing nowadays It's crazy. It's one of the biggest anime

Franchises of all time like without a doubt like I think I think it has been surpassed by one piece or something really Yeah, I believe so Pokemon in and of itself already beats it no matter what but like like that's hard because of what came first, the chicken or the egg. Like, do you want to consider Pokemon a game franchise first? It's a game franchise. It really is. Well, it's a training card game franchise. That's what really started.

Or was it was I thought the cartridge game started. It probably was. Yeah. But so it means like it's its own thing, you know, like it's yeah. Yeah. But you know, I think it's so interesting to see where these are at because like we said earlier, this has been a year in for this thing as publication dates. How many episodes do you think it took for them to start the Red Ribbon Arc, Brad? 60 or no, well, 40, I would say. 28, 29 episodes in and you start to kind of brew up this thing. And I love the Red Ribbon arc.

This is honestly probably, if not my favorite, one of my favorite Dragon Ball, maybe even Dragon Ball Z overall, like the whole story arcs, because when you look at the two that predates it, it is bigger than both of them combined, right? But like the fact is that you're having this big ladder effect for what Goku is fighting for at every step of the level, right? Like it starts with silver and then it goes through this and it goes to, and we're about to cover it, you know,

the, the entails of that. But for me, that is the thing that I love to see the most. It's not always about Goku fighting the next most powerful competitor, because by the end of what we're gonna talk about today, I would say like, it's not really about a competition as much as it is just, so with that, we arrive at Muscle Tower, right?

And White has been alerted to Goku's approach. Hold on. Can I just say one thing? I looked up, I had to look up at this Red Ribbon Army. And Red is a redheaded guy and Black is a black guy, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't necessarily want to get into that. I mean, and it's present too, because like, if you notice, it's the same voice actor as Popo. Yeah, because we did we well, we covered it in the first one. But

yeah, there is that just, you know, we might have cut it out. Did we? All right. Well, then you can cut this part out that too. That's what I was going to say. I mean, people can make whatever reservations they want about Yeah, well and it's in its Japan too, like they don't have the same like cultural Exactly. Exactly. Right. So anyway, so once he gets to muscle tower General white aware of Goku's approach it kind of makes the challenge for him Like if you think you can get through all these levels up on the top floor, I have the chief and he'll be able to give you the information on the dragon ball and whatnot.

Now one of the things that we've learned during the interaction with silver is that the Red Ribbon army, while pretty equipped their dragon radar, because they do have one, it's not as efficient as capsule corpses, right? Yeah. Because Bulma like made hers, right? Or something like that. Well, Bulma's dad, Bulma's dad, right? Dr. Breen, for whatever. But that's one of the things that I find to be funny

is because like there seems to be like a level of connection there that I kind of orientate later. We're actually gonna touch on in a moment here, but just so we know right now, the red ribbon model, I guess, is apparently supposed to be inferior to the regular Dragon Raider that we have from Capsicord. Okay. This is netted Goku the Six, but not the four star ball. Goku the sixth but not the four star ball and there's supposedly one here in the tower right so we go through and Goku gets upon to the second level and he meets with this giant Terminator looking he's called two different

things between the anime and the manga so So in the manga, he is Sergeant Metallic. In the anime, he is Major Metal Tron, right? But either way, this is a Terminator kind of like play character where throughout however many different attacks, we see Goku throw at this guy. He just keeps on coming, keeps attacking until eventually there's like a cruise missile that shoots out of his mouth. He's able to fire his giant fist up off of his hand and this guy just starts the fight like sitting

in a chair completely docile and then you see like a robot right in his eye right exactly. Yeah okay. completely docile and then you see like a kid that's a robot right in his eye right exactly yeah okay and he has like he has he has glasses and a leather jacket kind of vest looking on like he is obviously a play on the Terminator if you want to google image him really quick right so eventually though Goku is really only able to beat this battle once the batteries die because it's a robot, right? Really? So he like, farts out like Fartum, kind of like what humans have been doing with animals.

He blows the head off the robot. At one point, he stops the other hand from hitting him because of the power pole and things like that. He barely makes it out of this fight, right? And watching this fight though, our General White, who we've kind of seen like throughout the arc, like, oh, this Goku guy beating these guys,

I might as well keep him around. Like, he really is just kind of playing cat and mouse and like a little admirable of Goku to a certain extent. But next to him, you have this less like militant kind of designed character. And this guy has like a ninja motif going with the full on mesh underclothes and the like gi kind of thing. Yeah. And this guy is actually really cool.

He is Mirasaki. Now Mirasaki is actually purple and Japanese. So like while everything else has that American nomenclature kind of color for the Red Ribbon Army, silver, white, red, black. But here they kind of play on it because this guy is Supposed to be the very you know Eastern

Stylized like ninja samurai take character, right? Yeah ninja slash samurai nothing anyway, so he's supposed to be ninja very You know Inspired character carries a katana and everything else. And when we get to that fourth level fight between him and Goku, like there are a lot of really cool moments and like shots and things like that. And I will say out of all the art that we've been looking at manga wise, this is also some of my favorite, right? Like when color comes in on this series, it is usually always beautiful. But here, especially, I definitely wanted to make a

note of that because it is- You mean color like fighting wise, right? Ma! No, I mean like, for some reason, they are selective with bringing in certain elements of color rather than just regular black and white comic, right? Oh, excuse me. Okay, gotcha. Sometimes it is definitely in a fight sequence, right? But I would say that even sometimes it's just in beautiful landscapes.

We're ending this chapter of the arc. Here's a cool little silhouette shot with Bulma and Goku or something, right? I don't even know if this is actually drawn anywhere. I'm just saying, here's this cool portrait. Yeah, that's my final frame, like whatever, you know, but like when he brings in color, it always just looks fucking great. And I got to say, at least so far out of the art that I've been looking at across our coverage, this, I would say is some of the best use of color that I've seen.

Really? Okay. Right, like it's, and it's all been great. All of it has been great, but this is some of my favorites so far. Really? Yeah. So yeah, personally, I just love the way that some of the color is used here.

And I think it's some of the best examples of it so far. So moving on from there though, I love the mirasaki fight Because not only it's Eastern influence right and him being the ninja character in like, you know, I'm more Western influenced an antagonist for a go crew and in an army right not that armies are strictly Western but you know what? I mean, these are guys fighting with rifles and flamethrowers and shit like that, you know what I mean? Yeah, well, I mean, it has, it always has that kind of fling to it. Right, I feel, I feel, and that's not like western feel too,

because like the voice actors for both silver and red have like Irish kind of accents to them. You know what I mean? Like, really? Okay. Yeah. They definitely don't try to make it like they're a bunch of, you know, red deck. Well, I mean, red, like, yeah,

red is like a redheaded guy, right? So yeah, yeah. Yeah. Although it has some cool imagery and stuff like that with the fight and it's, you know, kind of Eastern designed antagonist, the comedy in it, you know, kind of Eastern-designed antagonist. The comedy in it, the slapstick comedy that happens throughout this thing, while sometimes a bit much, is always like, like we were saying a moment ago with Major Metal, that light-hearted

touch at the end of that fight, I think is a really good end to it, right? Like it's a really tense fight. And then having that joke at the end is like, oh, okay, you know, cool. That's funny that they did that. This fight for the most part doesn't really have stakes or intensity. It almost feels like Murasaki is like

trying to prove himself to Goku to a certain extent. And he literally ends up with a power pull up his ass for it. Okay. Like literally ends up with a power pull up his ass for it. OK, like, like literally ends up with a power pull up his ass. Yeah. So, yeah, he's like trying to drop down on Goku and the power pulls like sitting up right and it lands. Oh, man. And then he's like running around and barking like a dog.

And you see the power pole sticking out and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. And like in Goku finds his nudie mags at one point and like yeah I mean there's there's a bunch of run she is yeah I gotta go back and rewatch all these well Japanese culture is a bit I was gonna say again Japanese culture is a little bit different so like while there may be some things that were kind of like shit man they were showing this to little kids. Like, yeah.

The Murasaki fight gets to a point where we've talked somewhat about the attacks and stuff like that. So at one point, Goku has an attempt where he can literally like kind of shape shift into having five projected selves at once, right? And all of a sudden, as like a last-ditch effort Mirasaki does the same thing right except it's his four identical twins in

him and then Goku's like oh wait four identical twins where'd these guys come from? and he's like wait a minute they're all real they have real weapons and then okay and then Goku doesn't care and then like does that move him in the four projected Hibs take out the five real brothers and then Mirazaki is like on the run right like he doesn't really have any resort left He does have an ace in the hole and he goes to this L and he unleashes this number eight, right? Goku will call this character ater but I wanted to kind of we're not gonna wrap it up here but we're gonna kind of tentatively slow it

down here because this is the first Android we know of in all of Dragonball Brad. Android Ater? Android A is a giant Frankenstein looking okay character. Alright okay I remember this because, all right, Kyle, I think I already told this in the last, the last time we talked about Dragonball, there was like this website, it was like a wiki, but it wasn't a wiki. You know, I mean, it was, it was a Dragonball wiki in the nineties, right? Like a GeoCities. And I ran the Androids. I went down this rabbit hole trying to find out like all the Androids. So like, why did it start with the Android? You know, whatever 13 or whatever. Yeah. So yes. Okay. I was

watching Mr. Fusion's Dragon Ball dissection. You know, when they covered it, they were talking about some of the guidebooks. That is where I learned that this timeline literally contradicts itself and this story shouldn't happen. Yeah, but they also pointed out a very interesting point that Literally contradicts itself and this story shouldn't fucking happen Yeah But they also pointed out a very interesting point that like even calling them all androids is not technically right because like the kanji that is used could mean Android in the bio

Mechanical sense or it could mean Android in like a cyborg sense and like they kind of are encompassed by both but regardless of which even in those guidebooks I don't know that the first handful of Androids are ever more than just acknowledges having existed at a certain point right and then we meet eight here and I feel like you maybe get one or two more until the Super Android movie that kind of bridges the gap, right? So there is a movie that kind of explain it all, or?

Yeah, there's like, there's three of them, and then they fuse into Super Android 13 or whatever by the end. Okay, see, I was a little, yes, I was very young. What the, I don't know, maybe I knew that, but yeah, okay. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I mean, little yes. I was very young with the I know man. Maybe I knew that but yeah, okay Yeah, yes. Yeah, I mean for real I mean, it's one of those things though that like I feel like that movie that movie may even be one of the only movies That can't actually happen because they're like, okay look So when we come back to androids we started at like 14

Or whatever it is, you know, like, how does that work? But regardless, Eder and Goku, they are done with Miyazaki, and he's finished, and they kind of have to traverse the rest of Muscle Tower with some mazes and things like that. They go past this fifth floor

that seemingly has no entrance and they go up to the sixth and once they arrive a trap door is pulled like a first class DM would do. Good job General White. And and they fall into a pit with another giant bestial force, right? And this thing can shoot lightning from its antenna. It's like blubberous. And it seemingly, just like the robot, can just take all of the damage. Everything Goku's bringing to this thing does nothing. An aider, although an imposing force,

is not really much of a threat, nor anything terribly worthwhile within the battle. But Goku kind of thinks back and remembers to his talk with Snow and how he was so cold that he had to come back and get close to travel to Muscle Tower, and then decides to bust a hole open into the wall, and the beast beast kind of freezes Goku shatters it in one shot and uses the power pole to get him an ater upstairs Get shot by white and when white realizes that this is no avail He has this powered gun, you know, it's like huge fucking hand cannon. He feigns a surrender He grabs the chief for Goku and then turns

the pistol on him, right? And it's a really funny moment that I just absolutely love because the chief goes, it's not worth it Goku, take him out, save the village. And he goes, all right chief, I'll do it. Even if he takes you out or whatever, just like the chief said, right? And he goes, no wait, nevermind, don't do that. Yeah. Don't actually do that. But White is defeated and Goku, the Chief and Eiter all move on from Muscle Tower and they go back to Jingle Village and, you know, it's seemingly kind of happy ever after for these characters.

But what we're about to walk into next will be some of the most heavy-hitting stuff That Dragon Ball will be putting forward so far and I think is really gonna set a precedent for where the series is gonna Go even after that. Like I said, this is really I feel where the anime is starting to become the flagship, even though the manga is the original source material. And we will be returning here soon, but not next episode. We don't really do two-parts all that often. And though I love this, this is definitely like one of my favorite arts that we're going

to cover. But is there anything you wanted to lay into this one? Because I think this is one you have a little bit of reverence for you. Like you were saying the earlier dragon ball. Yeah, man. I mean the red ribbon, like when you started talking about that, like that started bringing back all this, like it really, they really have a very big role. At least in the, you know, the dragon ball. So you see, right.

Yeah. The whole universe, because this will eventually really inspire some later on stuff with dragon ball Z and stuff like that. And yeah, I think this is some of the funnest stuff to cover as well. It really is, man. Yeah. Is there a corn translation for one of the names? I'm not sure if there is. I know there's like different vegetables, but yeah. It's Google. Corrin. Yeah, the cat. Sure, there's another there's another one named Corn, but he looks like who's the fucking dude who trained Rohan during Rajin Boo?

Who's that guy's name? I remember Ultimate Kyra. Yes, that guy. He looks like that. OK. Yeah, there's a guy in Dragon Ball Z or maybe one of the later ones named Korn. That's awesome. That. Well, and Corrin who we're actually going to meet next time we talk about Dragon Ball. Okay. Yeah. So that's hilarious. Yeah. It's just like, I mean, it just

happened. Yeah, it is perfect. Yes. So yeah. What do you know about court? Well, aside from it being a really cool band, man, I gotta say, I love the fact that Jonathan Davis, oh, wait, um, my bad. No, um, obviously, you know, it's gotta be one of the most important vegetables, but like, almost be one of the most important vegetables, but like almost like one of the most hated ones as well, because like ethanol and whiskey and corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, and you know what I mean, all these other different things, but like realistically it's like one of the things

that you put into the cornucopia when you're drawing maze and you're trying to talk about like a time- tradition in American history and shit right like it's hard for me to have like a negative connotation corn but yet like the reality in this situation is that like it doesn't have the the brightest happiest connotation sometimes exactly yeah like it does have a mixed thing for real cuz like right even for me man because like I think sweet corn, you know, sweet corns like are popcorn, right? But then you gotta think like, yeah, of course we'll ethanol. And like, I mean, when I think of corn,

I think of like roundup ready. Cause like roundup ready corn is one of the big ones, which we'll get into towards the end. So corn also known as maize, which I'm probably going to say maize more often than corn because really like that's and when you said vegetable it is a vegetable right Kyle like but it's more it's a grain which I guess because vegetable is just a generic term it's not I mean grain is too but right so is it like a specific species yes well it's a starchy cereal grain that is a seed. Oh, it's the seed of a tall grass, right? So it is a grass, right? It's in the grass family.

Okay, yeah. The grass family, Pohaceae. Okay. And one of the most widely distributed and genetically engineered food crops in the world. So like what we kind of initially transitioned into this, we're talking, we brought up the genetic engineering because especially as you don't wanna think

of genetic engineering as something that's happened before modern times, but genetic engineering is what gave us all of our modern food crops, essentially. But it's literally integrated into what you've mentioned multiple times as like the foundation of what civilization will come to be, agriculture. Once you've tended to and yielded crops at that amount of time.

Selection, right? So let's say, you know, you grow a field of corn and then you find this big old ear, right? And you're like, that one, I'm gonna save this year. I'm gonna save all the seeds from this giant ear of corn, way bigger than all the other ones. Then the next year you grow that, that one grows a bunch of big ears. You know, I mean, it doesn't exactly happen like that. But that, and you could do that without even like thinking

about it, right? But those, those traits of a grow, you habitually will end up doing these things and those are genetically engineered. Yeah. Yeah. And not even to understand what genetics are or anything like that. You'll just think like this is a big one, right? I do that myself. I mean, I understand what genetics are but like still like when I see like, you know A big pepper or something like that. Just yeah, right. Oh look at this big yield. That's promising I'm going to save the or I always save the seeds from the earliest and the latest growing Batches of my specifically beans. I say beans. Yeah. Yeah. Smart. Yeah. Because I think, you know, the early ones, right. And I don't want to

mark them. I should mark them. Honestly. Yeah. Like the early one, I think, Hey, if they're the first ones growing, that means that if I save those seeds, they might grow a little earlier next year. And then also I saved the late ones because like, I'm thinking if they're growing this late, that means that like, you know They might produce more those plants next year might produce later into the season And like I don't know. I don't know enough about beans if that's actually true But like I do know enough about genetics that it could be true, right? Enough to make me dangerous

Dangerous Well, I could be dangerous certain fields, but anyways, let's continue about corn. So in 2020 and may like there might have been more recent stats, but this is what I saw in 2020 about 1.1 billion tons of corn was produced worldwide. Wow. That is insane. Yeah. So it was domesticated about 9,000 years ago. So it's actually a pretty late comer really in the whole domestication plot and it was in southern Mexico. So this is a new world crop. This is crop just like tomatoes, peppers, potatoes. Once you get to the

Americas. A lot of our crops that are used like when culinary purposes nowadays are from the Americas, right? But it came from a wild plant called Teosinte. I think that's how you pronounce it. I actually looked this one up. So, and this little Teosinte plant was like this tiny little almost grass-like plant. It actually looked like grass or almost wheat. And we'll talk about it in a little bit, but like it's, it looked looked nothing like corn I guess is what to say you know it didn't look well right it looks more like wild grass than it did like yeah exactly so I'm just wondering like most if you could take most like

wild grasses and just select for them for thousands of years and just make corn out of some random grass well they kind of look like another grain in wheat, right? So like it kind of makes sense that they, they have a similar properties, right? You know what I mean? Like. Yeah, definitely. You're right. Like, I mean, it is a grass, you know? Like if you'd look at corn,

it's just like a giant grass stock. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like that. Right. Yep. Even the tassel. Yep. Which we know about tassel. Detassling corn. Yeah. Yeah. I did it looks like that. Right. Yup. Even the tassel. Yeah, which we know about tassel. Detassling corn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They did it.

Did you really? For one summer, though. That's why motherfuckers. So for people that didn't grow up in the country or, you know, even in this our area. Yeah. Right. Rural agro communities. We had a thing, a job for teenagers to do where you went out to the farm and you went like every three rows or something like that of corn that was like seven to nine feet

high and pull off the tassels of the top. And we'll talk in a minute what the tassels are, but it was so ridiculous, man. I mean, it was a job and I did other, I did, I never did detassling, but I did hay, potato, blueberries potato blueberries so this amount of corn though this 1.1 billion tons it out competes both wheat and rice so it is like the most used grain in the world I mean rice is you it's close right and rice and wheat is close but the reason why corn out competes it is because of animal feed it's it's used so much in animal feed yeah yep's used so much in animal feed. Yeah, yep. Chicken feed, cow feed, horse feed. Yep. And it's really separated into two main types. The sweet corn that's eaten

like from the cob or frozen or canned or you know the corn you see the yellow, nice yellow kernels that you eat. Or like that's actually a very small percent. I didn't look at the exact percentage but I think it's like 10% or less of what's produced. Yeah the other amount is field corn or like dent corn and that is what's used in animal feed and also things like cornmeal or masa which oh man I've been making tortillas lately I'm getting better at it they're delicious but yeah but also cornstarch corn syrup like we spoke high fructose corn syrup, corn oil, and even alcohol for drinking like bourbons or bourbon whiskey.

Right. Whiskey. Or fuel like we spoke about. Like, yeah, ethanol, E85 you see in America and whatnot. Is it only in America? I mean, it's all over the world, but I don't know if it's like E85. I don't know if E85 is, you know, what they call it. Okay. Before we get into more of the science of it, let's talk about a little bit of the history the world, but I don't know if it's like E85. I don't know if E85 is, you know, what they call it.

Okay. Or we're into more of the science of it. Let's talk about a little bit of the history of it, because like the history of corn and the evolution of it to me is like really one of the craziest stories of a plant in like that I've ever heard, right? So like I said, it originated around 9,000 years ago. The ancestor of Teosinte looked nothing like the modern-day court, as I had mentioned. This was like a grass-looking, wheat-maybe looking plant. Actually it's still around. It's kind of a bushy plant, so more of a grassy plant, less wheat. Okay.

So I think of like a bundle of grass that overgrew. Maybe you didn't cut your lawn for a couple of weeks and you had some grass. Now it's starting to bloom shit. Yeah, exactly. But it started as domestication in southern Mexico. And the older surviving maize types can be found in the highlands of that area. And that area that I'm speaking about is called the Balsas River Valley. And it slowly spread out through there. And it took a couple thousand years actually.

Like it kind of surprised me that it took that long for and maybe it's because it like really wasn't a good crop until then but man grain is what made agriculture kind of in a way right because before then like like we were talking about with beer and bread exactly yeah you need like it has to be a grain that's always been the first crop that people used or really domesticated and started agriculture with. So before then, which kind of blows my mind, there was no grain. I mean, there was in a sense,

there was different tubers and stuff, which is, it's not a grain, I guess, but it's still starchy things. But I guess what I'm saying, carbs. Carbs weren't the main thing of people's diets, right? It was mostly like fruits and some some plants and proteins, you know, a lot of meat and stuff like that is crazy.

Well, I mean, and like we were saying before, you know, it's what you could gather low hanging fruit, you know what I mean? Like maybe even, you know, exactly foraging and hunting and things like that It's one of the reason that fishing is so prominent across the world this because it literally could just be You casting out a little net and get what you can out of the stream. Yeah like fishing I mean that was probably one of the earliest ways of humans I guarantee it was people just trying to grab that shit out of a stream or something like a fucking bear. Almost all early civilizations started at rivers. So like yeah, yeah for sure. Like I said though, about 9,000 years ago, well let's say 8,700 years ago, they found stone milling cave in that area, and there was maze residue on those, they

were like grinding tools. Because that's how it originally was used, was they would take the seeds and kind of make a flower out of it. Right, right. And we'll go into a minute exactly how there's a special way they used it, which the Europeans didn't know about at first, which caused it to not be the greatest thing to eat. But so slowly, like I said, 8700 years ago was the earliest. It might have been before then, right? But around 8,000 years ago,

they found evidence in Ecuador of it being used. And then as I said, slowly it moved out. 400 years from that, Central America mostly had been using it. So we're talking like 7,600 years ago. The Central America, like the Mexican peninsula, if I don't know if they call it that, but that whole area was using maize. And over the next thousand years or so, between like 7,000 and 6,000 years ago, that's when it spread to South America. And I don't know if it really went into much of like Brazil

in that area. Mostly it did go America. And I don't know if it really went into much of like Brazil in that area. Mostly it did go into the Andes, right? So like the Incas and everybody used it. One thing that amazes me is that it wasn't until 4500 years ago when it made its way into like the modern US. So like, I don't know why, but like for whatever reason the United States and Mexico really like kind of kept their distance

almost in a way I mean they didn't there was cross like cultural things but it seemed to me like especially when you go more East like they were very different from you know the Central American Native Americans were a lot different than the Eastern ones or Eastern Americans well I think this is one of the points where you need to take into the grip not you specifically but it needs to be taken into gravity the just fucking dense size that america truly is i mean yeah exactly that is really what it is yeah like of course if you're an eastern native there's so much vastness that you can go south north and west easily and never

really hit mexico we worth like two or three I'm sorry. Right like if you look yeah, exactly. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken like it's huge. We're so huge man. Fuck Yeah, dude I mean really we're even just Canada because when you think about how much of it may be In hospitable at one point or another right? Yeah, but it just its size. Yeah, and you add on- You're half of Canada. Yeah, and you add on to Central America and South America.

Like it's huge, it's two continents, right? Yeah, so yeah. I understand more now than ever why they call it the New World, just because there's simply such a vastness. So much. And within that, there's such a variety that can come in ecosystems and things like that, that like...

It's crazy. Yeah, it really is. So yeah, so it's not known exactly like how Teosinte was, you know, converted essentially into corn, right? But obviously, like I was saying earlier, they would select for those bigger kernels, right? And slowly, it wasn't just the bigger kernels too. I mean, and these were just like gardeners or farmers, you know, not gardeners, but farmers. And they, you know, they would look in like, man, if you're a farmer, you know, like, or even a gardener,

like, like I said, when we first, we first started talking about this, like, you want to- Even a hobbyist could tell. Yeah, you're looking for like, you know, you got that big crop, you know, this one looks better than all the other ones, or even just a plant looks better.

It's bigger, it's, you know, it's more robust. Like I grew faster, man, it grew bigger, you know, like maybe I'll save the seeds from this one this year. And like over time from that, rather intentionally or not, it started forming into corn. And I think it took, it was around, by the time it got to America, it was pretty much corn, you know?

So like over like 3000 years that, yeah. Right, right. And there was three main types though, or from like recent more modern research, I guess, modern me like 20 years ago, modern research suggests there was like three main types of corn. There was an Andeid group,

so like, you know, a South America that was kind of grenade shaped. And then there was a three main types of corn. There was an Andean group, so like, you know, a South American that was kind of grenade shaped. And then there was a US group, like a US maize variety. Like that was kind of what we see, like Indian corn that you see nowadays in the fall. So like the pop mark, like it's kind of got browns in it. The colorful ones, you know that? Or it's like a reddish brown.

Yeah, yeah, all that dent corn, I think that's what they call that. But yeah. Okay, okay. And then you had like the South American and Mexican maize. And I don't think sweet corn, I don't think came around until like more recently. Like there was no sweet corn until like the last hundred years or so. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That makes sense. But when Europeans arrived, they quickly like adopted pretty much all of these crops,

you know, like I mentioned, corn, peppers, tomatoes, potatoes. Tomatoes they thought were the devil efforts but yeah they quickly adopted it. I don't know about that one. Yeah yeah but the thing was about this corn is that I mean it was great because it was very productive easy to grow relatively right Like it was a great crop. But if you use it as a staple grain, like they did with wheat or rice, you know, like the, like most people do nowadays, right? There's a certain grain you use depending on where you live. In America, it's mostly wheat, right? With our flour, all-purpose flour, whatnot, our whole wheat grain or whatever. That, if you use corn as that,

and just use straight corn, you'll end up suffering from malnutrition because the niacin, which Kyle, I'm gonna put you on the spot here, do you remember what vitamin group niacin's in? And I said group, so it might help you. It's a vitamin group. Fuck.

Damn it. Is it B12? I didn't know exactly, but it's a B group vitamin. You're right. Yes. Yes. You are. Yes. Yeah. But so corn, it has the niacin. You need niacin, right? Niacin is super important for you. And I think in the vitamin episode, I explained why niacin is. Well, we'll explain what happens if you don't have it in a second. But you need to be able to liberate that niacin. And there's a process in which they add alkali water to it, or the Native Americans did by adding ashes or lime to it. Right. They would add wood ash to it, which is more basic or alkali.

OK. Yeah. And through that, it would like break down the halls and liber is more basic or alkali. Okay. Yep. Yep. And through that, it would like break down the halls and liberate out this niacin from it. This process was called nyxetimalization, I think. It's a hard one. Still, that's, I mean, but that's cool though. So they would extract it and it would like float up in the water. When it sank, it would sink. Yeah. Well, I think it like broke down the husk, you know, kind of like, yeah, maybe floated up in the water, broke it sink? Yeah well I think it like broke down the husk you know kind of like yeah maybe floated up in the water broke it made a mushy I'm assuming

you know um and then they would like yeah skim it off and then yeah you would have that inner that inner meat um yeah okay yeah um so but the Europeans didn't know that right so they were just making it and the nice and we get stuck in there because you know, everybody knows if you eat some corn Right, just eat it. You don't You look down in the toilet And so like people started getting niacin deficiency or what's also known as Pelagra and that caused like irritated skin and sores and diarrhea and then even like dementia or death, right? Like it can like get pretty serious.

Oh my god. So like some people thought it was like leprosy and shit. Yeah, but yeah, so but they found out how to use it. Like once it was found out like that one way, right? Like they came around a couple of natives and they were like, bro, bro, we cook it down. Yeah, I just, I didn't know that man. It's like pretty much all the corn you use. I mean, other than sweet corn, like you wouldn't be able to survive off sweet corn then right? Like if you use sweet corn as your base crop or base, your staple grain, you would die. Yeah.

Yeah. Pretty crazy to think about. But yeah, so kind of again, a little bit of the science of corn now, right? Modern corn is a tall annual grass with a single stem and it ranges from 4 feet or 1.2 meters to 13 feet or 4 meters, right? And I didn't know it gets that high. I guess it does, man, because, you know, knee high by 4th of July, you hear that around in our area and man is way higher than knee high by 4th of July now. But if you look, do you, I always look,

that's one thing I do when I'm like driving around. I grew up with like two to three sides of corner around me my entire life pretty much, right? Exactly. Yeah, I always notice or whatever. And like, right, like I know it to be seven feet tall, like on the rag, I easily like, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's like, that's a low

yield. Yeah. Like I remember, because we have had lean years around. We have. Yeah. We are like, for sure. And the corn didn't look that good last year. That's how you always can tell too, is the corn. There's wind turbines around us too. and I did a job working to survey them for some birds and bats. I went in those corn fields, man, and sometimes I'm like, man, like they were, you know. So you get spooked out.

Not spooked out, but like, I mean, you know, children in the corn and stuff. Yeah, no, I did, obviously. But like- You were going to get lost though? Have you ever felt that? Have you ever got anxiety, like you were never going to get out of there? Yeah, sometimes I did obviously, but like you were gonna get lost though. Have you ever felt that? Have you ever got anxiety like you were never gonna get out of there? Sometimes I did if you go too far into it. Yeah, it kind of gets kind of yeah That's what I had cuz it's so tall man. Yeah

Dude, I'm never getting the fuck out of here. It's so tall like seriously Yeah, it gets like over 10 feet, you know Like it's it is literally losing the forest through the trees. For those of you who don't know, you know, if you don't live in the Midwest, you will never have this experience. If you were to just start walking out of my backyard at one point in my life, and I've done this before and just walk for 10 minutes. Yep. And then stop and turn around. You may not know where you are. I mean, really you do

because you've only walked one direction. Yeah, but no, for real. But do you know? Especially if you like, if you don't mess up any of the stocks. Cause if you're, you know, if you ain't going like the Rose, like you can kind of mess up some of the stocks.

But another thing man is the corn mazes. I mean, I didn't even write this down, but corn mazes. Yeah. You know, if you're not a midwesterner, someday come up just for the corn maize, I would say, because that's cool. They make giant mazes that you walk through. They make some giant ones. But anyways, to continue on. So corn has these long, narrow leaves, kind of like, again, like a grass, you know, you think of grass like a long one as these alternating leaves that come up and they grow on the opposite sides of the stalk so like as it comes up it's also mono-ecious which means that it has both male and female flowers on the same

plant right not all plants have that you know some plants just have the male or the female most do though that is cool That's crazy. Most plants though, I mean, most flowers you see are monoletias. But, Kaling done at one point. Okay. Okay. I didn't know that either. But the male part or the tassel, like we spoke about earlier with that, or the old Jabaranis.

Right. Yeah. That's, that's the male part of a plant, right? So that's what grows the pollen and it grows at the top of the plant. The pollen is released by the wind. Right. Yeah, the wind disperses it and it doesn't really travel far. Some pollen actually will travel like miles and miles and miles, right? And this will, some of it, a couple will, but most of them will only travel a few feet. And if you know anything about gardening or farming, well mostly gardening because farmers grow thousands of plants.

But gardening you have to grow like a pretty big stand of corn to actually get it to pollinate. You can't just grow like one row of corn. It won't work. You need to grow like, you know, like a square of it or a rectangle of it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

You need a, you know, exactly. So even if it's, even if it's four or five, exactly. It's got to be applied. Exactly. So those tassels can actually pollinate the female flowers, which are the stalks, and which eventually turn into the cobs. That is the female flower.

And they start off as these little tiny strings that stick out of like the nodes of the plant. Yeah, the little hairs. And those hairs actually, it's crazy to think, I didn't know about this until I was in college. Those hairs, what happens is that a pollen, a single pollen grain, lands at the tip of one of those hairs and then it travels. Those hairs are actually a tube and that pollen grain travels up that tube, kind of like a straw, right? Travels

down into what is called the carpal and that carpal develops into a kernel and that that kernel like nestles in there, right? Yeah, like it's almost like, you know, like humans, right? You have like the sperm and the egg in a sense, kind of. It like wombs in there, right? Yeah, I mean, it's not exactly like that, obviously. No, but it settles in after it gets through that tube, right? It's crazy to think though, man,

that that pollen needs to go up through that little, you know, that little string needs to go up through that little string and because those strings, you see, that's the stuff if you ever get like a cob of corn that's not shucked, as we call it around here. Round here. When it doesn't have the leaves, the leaves and everything taken off of it, right? An unprepared corn of the cob, I guess. You see all those, that hairy stuff, right?

Those strings. That's what I'm talking about right now. That's the hair. Yeah, exactly. So those are actually like little straws, if you think about it, or tubes. It's crazy, like man, that blew my mind when I was in college. It blew my mind.

I had like, wait, hold on, what do you mean? For a second. It does what? Yeah, I mean, it's something that you take for, like I said, I, as a youth in rural agro-community Michigan, it's like a foregone conclusion, right? Like it's just the right, I mean, I didn't think of it ever. Yeah. Right.

But each one of those, each one of those like is connected to a single kernel, you know? So like, if again, go back to gardening, sometimes you'll see your cob, only like half of the kernels will get pollinated. So then only half of them will grow and you'll have like a half a cob without kernels. It's crazy to think about like each one of those little tiny tubes has had a pollen go through it and make a kernel. And like that just like that type of stuff is really cool because each one of those,

they're also used in a lot of genetics things, which we're gonna talk about soon. We're gonna talk about model organisms, which corn is one of them. And we'll talk about it more then. Okay. It's really cool how each one of those tubes is another, it's a new genetic event, right?

It's a new production of a brand new thing, which goes back to the whole genetic selection. It really makes a difference. So kernels are usually yellow or white. That's what you usually see is yellow or white corn. But it could also be orange or red or brown or purple or black. It's crazy. More traditionally shown, like I was saying, in the cornucopias or displays of maize when we're

talking about like Thanksgiving displays. Yes, yeah, like the Indian corn they call it. Exactly. Yeah. Right. But like each one of those was because of that specific pollination of that, right? That's why they're different colors. Right.

Like it's crazy. Like yeah. Yeah. Those, the yellows, they come from carotenoids, just like carrots, the orange from carrots, right? That's like where a carot, or one of another carotenoid. The little baby carrots. Oh man, little baby carrots. I'm sorry.

The reds though, the reds and the blues and the purples, like pretty much all the other colors though, they come from anthocyanins and another plant dye, I guess, that I haven't heard of called phlobophedes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna have to look those up, these phlobophedes. Yeah, that sounds.

Yeah. So one thing I read about corn, and some people might know another plant that's kind of like this. It has short day photoperiodism, which that means that it requires a certain amount of darkness before it will begin to flower. Yeah, when I read that, I mean, that's interesting. Some people might know. Other flowers that are like that. Other commonly beloved plants that do things.

So corn was always a heavily selected crop. But it wasn't until really the 1800s when breeding for it really began in earnest. When we started understanding what genetics, not even genetics so much, but crop breeding and crop searing and stuff like that. So they started beginning to select for better mass, more years per row, and other things that optimized the yield. And some of the varieties came around from today, you know, like sweet corn

or the little baby ears, the little baby corn you get in like Asian stuff. That's right. Yeah. Baby corn. I didn't think of that. Yeah. Yeah. That came around the 1800s. I'm not mistaken. Yeah. But with the advent of modern genetic engineering, you see some pretty crazy things happen. And I didn't, again, obviously I didn't make that the subject of my episode. Nonsense! Yes there's a few of them that are used like pretty much like worldwide and like 90% of the corn grown has a couple of these genetic engineered. Markers? Yeah, markers. Is that okay? Yeah they are genetic engineered right? Right. So I'm not saying they're bad either. They're not, though. And especially the first one I'm going to talk about.

Exactly. The first one I'm going to talk about, and it's the most commonly GMO'd maze variety, and that's BT Maze. And what that is, is they inserted these genes that produce proteins that are bacteria called bacillus thuringiensis. I hope I said that right, because I have to say that a lot in my job.

But... Because BTs use a lot in my job, but because VTs use a lot in my job as well. They inserted the genes to make the proteins that killed the bugs that it poisons, right? So this bacteria is used all throughout agriculture and it kills certain like caterpillars and moths and things like that, right? It kills insects. It poisons them. And they're able to insert the proteins. But it's just a naturally occurring bacteria. Yeah.

Right. And it doesn't hurt humans at all. Like, you know. Yeah. So like. Civil rights. It doesn't hurt us at all. The corn borer is where it really like it helps.

The European corn borer, I guess, was like it was decimating a bunch of different things. Right. I was going to say, right, it was killing a bunch of the crop. Yeah. So like that is perfect. Now there's another one though, and that is a corn variety called Roundup Ready. That's Monsanto corn, right? Yes. Okay. Yes, exactly. And that's okay. I have, this is a whole other episode, but I do have an issue with monocropping and like the use of herbicides. Mono or monto? Monocropping.

Mono, meaning that is a giant field of one crop, which we've been talking about this whole time, right? That's what core, most crops are nowadays. To feed us right now, at least, this is the most efficient way of doing it. I hate to say that's happened, that's working right what about the verticals what about vertical grows that are coming in it might happen that's just not efficient enough yes okay and the fact that we can spray a plant and have it no other

plant grow I mean essentially no other plant grow because it's for broadleaf plants but that really helps us be able to grow you know our food mostly to feed our animals to eat meat you know that's really what it is it's not like we don't need to grow all this corn to feed us we're feeding our animals to feed us that's really what it's about but again another story another time um Roundup there has been I didn't look this up I mean I've looked this up in the sense that I've read it over the years. And like, I've kept up with a lot of the research and stuff on Roundup and all that.

It can cause cancer. If I'm not mistaken. There's been class action lawsuits about that shit. Yeah. Exactly. And like so many pesticides, so many stuff has caused cancer, obviously. It's not alone in that. That's right.

The thing is, is that it's for like the farmers It causes cancer to the farmers because they're exposed to these giant bats of it and stuff, right? Because they're around that shit. Exactly. It's not that like by the time we're getting this corn or whatever the amounts of Glyphosate or glyphosate or whatever you want to say like it's's so minimal and like it's- It's not generally happening to John Q Publix. There's plenty of other things that will fuck us up. There's plenty of other things. Yeah, so all right. That's my soapbox for tonight. But yeah, that's, I guess, yeah.

But I mean, to be fair, I would rather have the soapbox where we're sitting here going, hey, fucking a line of distinction here, there's nuance to the arguments. Exactly, I mean, it is abandoned the EU Roundup is, but it's evolved obviously here. And the import of Roundup Ready corn is allowed to the EU.

You just can't use Roundup because again, it's the farmer. So like, he's like, yeah, you know, yeah, people over there can get killed. You know, it's fine to eat, just don't use it over here. So I don't but yeah corn I just wanted to talk about cuz I really do like I love like corn as a whole It is a cool plant and I love the foods of corn too, man Especially like it like man. I've been making tortillas lately. Like I mentioned it it's, corn tortillas are way better than flour ones. That's corn.

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