BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 131 - Backwards Chat
Episode Date: September 15, 2021The boys talk backwards, cult leaders, Bezos in space, the tennis, pamphlets, Othello and the Flat Earth Science Corps Get bonus BudPod on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more info...rmation.
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Phil, have you been taking your ivermectin You're on your horse
Your horse medicine
What is this ivermectin then
Have you not seen the news all about the
If you don't want your vaccine
Yeah
Take horse dewormer
If you don't want a vaccine
They think the vaccine is dangerous
Yeah
So they're taking horse dewormer
Oh right okay
That's what that story is about Yeah ivermect're taking horse dewormer oh right okay that's what that story is
about yeah ivermectin is a a dewormer an agricultural dewormer for horses and maybe
sheep i think it's horses though mainly okay yeah what is the reasoning um you may well ask
uh i'm not sure i've seen things about toxins i've seen things about toxins. I've seen things about worms. Toxins is a great thing.
Just toxins, you know.
Just general bad things in body.
Toxins is one level above saying ghosts.
Yeah.
It's so close to just going, ghosts did it.
To go to toxins.
And you go, right, right, science.
Yeah.
So your body just makes toxins all the time it poisons
itself does it it makes poison inside itself also everything you eat has poison in that's
another thing the toxins you're putting them in you fool yep yep but they're all they're also in and you have to eat special leaves.
They're in your bones.
And yeah, you have to eat special things.
Isn't it funny that the most harrowing thoughts sometimes come from people who speak very softly
and have kind of wind chimes
and kind of like...
Are you like hippie folk?
Yeah, hippies, crystal people.
And Osama Bin Laden,
who's very softly spoken, do you remember?
Oh, yeah.
He had a very sort of calm, measured pace to his speech.
Do you think that that's part of being like a kind of cult leader?
Where like he'd be halfway through describing 9-11 and people go,
wait, what did he say?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because they were just like lulled into this like, ah.
Cult leaders do seem to be quite
softly spoken there's him there's um the was it the banerjee the bamji the oh um in marvel country
yeah yeah yeah it was jeremy corbin cult leaders they just have a sort of soft way about them it's
it it lures the unsuspecting acolyte in.
Full sympathy to any potential cult leaders out there who are like,
Hey, how's it going?
You want to get in this van?
Ooh, no.
Gilbert Gottfried is not starting.
You want to get in this van? Yeah.
Iago from Aladdin is a terrible cult leader
people will be like he's not charismatic
he's grating and
aggressive
I don't know about you but that parrot being called
Iago really caused some
cognitive dissonance when I
went to watch Othello for the first time
really?
because Iago in my head
he's a big loud bird he's a big loud parrot time. Really? Because Iago in my head... He's a big, loud bird.
He's a big, loud parrot.
And then it's like, Iago,
oh, from Othello.
He's like, there's a parrot in Othello?
He's a bird? There's a bird, there's a big bird
in Othello?
Have you prayed tonight,
Desdemona?
That would be good to see.
No, no, Othello says that says that not iago i'm getting confused now
iago says uh uh your wife's running tricks on you your wife she is
she's oh she's not being true. Yeah. He's saying, watch out.
She's banging
a moor.
It's old school racism.
Wait.
Othello is the moor.
She's not... Oh no, he says your daughter
is banging a moor to the dad at the start.
He tries to get the dad of Desdemona
all riled up.
Right.
Because his daughter's going out with Amour.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
And then he causes other trouble.
He's a troublemaker, that guy.
He's a troublemaker, yeah.
Not a team player.
Well, I think this is precisely the level of sophistication our podcast strikes.
A discussion about Othello, but misremembered.
Misremembered misremembered
othello fringe 2022 that's a show forget forget pissed up shakespeare whatever it's called
shit face shakespeare where everyone gets drunk how about a shakespeare production where people
don't know the lines and i have just a grasping knowledge of the plot. Yeah, and people sit around and go,
wait, so who was the...
Wasn't there a thing where there's like twins?
Someone's a twin?
And people are like, yeah, yeah.
Just watching people kind of construct from school.
Yeah.
Wait, so there's a play in the play?
There's a play in this play?
Which is...
Are we in the play now or the play of the play?
We're in the play of the play of the play
of the play
It's plays all the way down
Yeah
The theatre production of Inception
We have to get deeper into a new play
No horse worming medicine for you?
No I've not taken any
I'm jabbed up to the nines
Jabbed and ready to gab
On Bud Pod
Nice
I got my flab jabbed
I got my flab
Yeah yeah
I asked for it in my belly
I was like jab my flab baby
Jab my flab with that shit from the lab
Give me a stab And I'll get in a cab I was like, jab my flab, baby. Jab my flab with that shit from the lab.
Give me a stab.
And I'll get in a cab and I'm off to blab with my friends.
That's right.
With my friends.
I'm not young enough to say dab.
I've been what?
Dab.
You've been away?
I've been away.
We did a corn episode.
Oh, yes.
The Cornwall episode. Which I recorded in a kind of charming shed yeah now you're back in terra novelli we are we are in
both in person in your flat we are for the first time in a long time and um for various holiday
and work and covid related reasons it's the first time i've been back
in my own flat home place for two and a half weeks i haven't been on holiday that whole time
but it's i've just been doing stuff that that includes the time where i did the recording
again thanks to all the pod buds who showed up um yeah so it feels like oh the pleasant recording
well you're living on a suitcase then? Yeah. How?
That's on the road?
Yeah, because the GF had COVID, right?
Oh, right.
Oh, right, so you couldn't be in the flat.
I had to ride the rails.
Like a hobo of war.
Yeah, the harmonica.
I can't wait to hear a fancy country song about Old Piana
Valley.
All my stand-ups about like
what's the deal with these guys
who hog the big fire in a big
bin?
The oil drum fire is for everyone.
These fucking guys.
Rail yards could do without
them, in my opinion
you never see a bin fire start do you
you never see
the most organized hobo
yeah
who's the one with the initiative
who's gathering up newspapers
bits of wood, planks and so on
where do you get an oil drum
yeah
somewhere post industrial I guess Saudi guess saudi arabia i
don't know that's true that's true there's a time in early pandemic where you would have been paid
to take away an oil a drum of oil oh yeah negative oil prices oil prices like a glitch in the game of
life it's like when you play counter-strike and you go into gravity and you make it like a million.
And so if you fall off,
if you walk down the step, you die.
Makes that horrible crunch noise.
Yeah.
I mean, that was the strongest point of the world's ending for me.
It was when oil cost negative dollars
yeah it's very much like uh crazyville yeah oils for free we'll pay you
clouds are on the floor now there's no you know i'm glad that's a friend of the oil parents are
okay the oil look any oil barons listening we're glad you made it through
uh that time yeah thank you for all your oil thank you for i we love you we love you we're
glad you're happy we're glad you're safe and healthy yeah and we're here for you yeah
if you ever need anything we're here for you. Oil barons. If you ever need anything, we're here for you.
Or baronesses.
Or baronesses.
Or baronesses. Any of you.
Any of you oil aristocracy.
Well, the Rockefellers
are out of oil.
By which I mean they've left the area
as opposed to they've run out.
Where's my oil? It's not like some guy
going around New York in an old-timey white tie.
No, apparently they sold up all their stuff.
They get an eye to the future, the Rockefellers always have.
That's right.
Worryingly, they've invested in
anti-being-fucked-in-the-eye-by-hornets devices.
What do they know that we don't?
devices.
What do they know that we don't?
They've invested in anti-wasp laser defense
domes.
Mmm.
Uh-oh. And it's the same
amount they had in oil, so it's a lot.
Why are they all investing in...
Why is Elon Musk investing in lizard repellent?
Yeah.
Why is everyone...
Jeff Bezos just filed a patent for something called
an interdimensional contraceptive.
What does that mean?
Uh-oh.
What did he see out there in space?
Yeah, it's a condom, but it's shaped like
when they try and illustrate a black hole
Like it's that vortex in space
Yeah it's a big cone
And it's kind of humming
Or it's like a Mobius strip
You put on your penis
It's an infinite surface area
Yeah you can't tell
Which is what I need for my dick
Ladies
I need a Mobius condom
Because my for my dick. Ladies, I need a Mobius condom because my
penis has an infinite surface area
of a completely indefinable shape.
We were talking the other day
how funny it would be
when Donald Trump was leaving
the Oval Office
and was waving. How funny it would be if he Trump was leaving the Oval Office and was waving.
How funny it would be if he just, as he walked into the Air Force Two, the helicopter, he just jumped up and zipped his own head off.
Yeah.
As it took off, he just fell out like a mannequin.
Yeah.
How funny would it be if Jeff Bezos went into space and then he just went everyone else is like strapped in
with their helmets on and everything else like that
he just goes, without saying anything
just goes to the airlock and just lets himself out
just
and he's like, Jeff?
Jeff?
and they just see him
in the blackness of space
floating away in the distance
and he's just smiling
and then you just have to
come back to earth going we've lost we've lost
Jeff
he just let himself out I don't know
like well what do we do with Amazon
I don't know I don't know he delivered
himself into space
some what some something
more powerful than him
ordered him
the whole flight it seemed like he was Something more powerful than him ordered him.
The whole flight, it seemed like he was hearing music that we couldn't hear.
Yeah, he just let himself out.
And you just have to come back to Earth going,
well, we don't actually know what to do about that.
Would they chase after him in the shuttle? I always wonder this.
They would, right?
It's like in gravity.
That's the closest reference point I have.
They were kind of up for, what was it,
like two hours of weightlessness or something,
like 15 minutes.
Oh, yeah.
They were kind of still arcing up,
so maybe they just... Did you hear the recording of Jeff Bezos
when he was in zero gravity in space?
No.
He just went like,
Woo-hoo!
Awesome! Awesome!
Woo!
Like an NPC.
Just like a weirdo.
Woo!
Yeah.
So if you turn on Zero Gravity mode
on Roller Coaster Tycoon,
he just sounded like when you click
on someone who's attending the park.
Yeah.
Woohoo!
Woo!
Wow!
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Amazing. Woo! Yeah. Maybe he is an NPC. Yeah. woohoo wow yeah oh my god amazing
maybe he is an NPC
having infinite money
is something NPCs have
you know
he is kind of
unreachable
I bet that it wasn't all that
great and he
I bet that it wasn't as good as simply just owning the earth from the
earth and and he was disappointed and he was trying to g himself up ironically g himself up
and by going uh it's not really doing it
yeah he was doing a christmas morning disappointing gift unwrap yeah yeah yeah ah space
just what i wanted
yeah because he's done he's like a god on earth right so he still he wanted to be
overawed yeah he wanted to meet something bigger than him so he went to space
and couldn't find it it wasn't enough he just went well now i've done this now i remember hearing um it may well have been fellow podcaster and
incredibly mildly controversial um well i don't know mildly bill burr controversial
is he controversial a lot of people hate him that's that's not the same, is it? The brilliance of Bill Burr is that he technically is,
but he doesn't court...
He's no interest in it.
Yeah, the attention.
He just is.
It takes two to tango for someone to be controversial,
and he won't get on the dance floor.
That's true.
So I don't think...
I mean, this is the power.
I know I speak on this podcast all the time
about the power of not engaging
yeah not apologizing uh and not letting people uh take you down for something they disagree with
like bilba the kind of things we've seen a stand-up yeah if you wanted to you could totally
say this guy's um he's making misogynistic jokes i mean i don't believe that but there are
plenty of people that um i mean the first half of a lot of his routines are and usually yeah
he usually he qualifies it with the second half and he's mellowed a lot i wouldn't want to watch
him even in his 40s but the amount of time he says fucking can't all that. He is in Disney's The Mandalorian.
Because he doesn't fucking care.
And he doesn't engage with people who get angry about him.
He doesn't, I think to be cancelled, you have to let people do it.
You have to let it in.
Like a vampire, you have to let it in.
You have to invite it into your home.
Yeah, across the threshold.
Yeah, well, he doesn't apologise.
He doesn't explain.
But I remember years ago, he was talking well, he doesn't apologize. He doesn't explain. But I remember years ago he was talking about,
he didn't say who it was,
but it was someone who was like maybe a huge
like rock and roll star in the 80s and 90s.
Yeah.
And had done like endless stadium gigs.
Just groupies, drugs.
You meet all the most famous people.
You meet fucking Muhammad Ali, ali nelson medela like
whoever you want right and you live in a mansion and you can do whatever you want go wherever you
want and you have you've done everything and you've had like 40 000 people singing along to
your songs and he was saying that um the guy the guy there's something there's an element of which
the guy is just dead behind the eyes because he's done everything yeah so whenever
anyone's like look a perfectly poached egg he's just you know he's alexander the great yeah
exactly yeah so i was like look there's a swimming pool full of supermodels and he's like well just
like last year yeah like his life is just a movie he wept for there were no more supermodels left
to bang that's right well. Well, Alice Cooper.
Was that him?
The rock and roll guy.
No, well, he plays golf a lot.
Alice Cooper plays golf a lot.
Constantly.
He's obsessed with golf.
There's all these really funny pictures of him with eyeliner and his long rock and roll hair.
And like really old school tartan golf kit.
Great.
And he just plays golf a lot.
Yeah.
And I think you need to find a thing if you've had that kind of life.
Yeah.
Like retiring to a monastery or something.
Equivalent.
Yeah, just something wholesome.
Yeah.
But Bezos is going to need that.
I feel like I've already found that with chess.
Really?
That's your forever hobby?
Just my forever like...
Diversion.
Like idling state.
Just chess, chess, chess, chess, chess chess chess Yeah I'm trying to cut down but
I think I found my rating which is annoying
I don't think I can get my rating much higher
What's your rating now?
It sort of is a between
On the 5 minute splits games
It's between 1050 and 1100
That's good man
It's alright it's It's all right.
But I guess I always had in my mind
I'd be behind her up.
We can't all start training for the Olympics now.
Yeah, that's true.
You know.
Speaking of great sporting achievement,
Emma Raducanu, the...
Yes.
The second most inspirational Eurasian person in the UK
Good tennis
From that Eurasian
Good tennis
But where is her viral Tom Hiddleston video?
She's got time
She's only 18
She hasn't even come out
As being formally anti-murder yet
That's true
I can't wait for her to be Cancelled for being pro-murder yet. That's true. I can't wait for her to be
cancelled for being pro-murder.
Imagine.
Did you watch when they had to make them all these speeches?
No.
Right at the end.
So they've won and they're all standing on a podium
and blah, blah, blah.
And a bunch of tennis people are there.
I don't know about tennis.
And they interviewed, first of of all the second place the canadian oh yes leila leila something fernandez fernandez i think that's right that's correct leila fernandez and she did this really
like incredibly like north american speech i just want to thank everyone and she was like and you're beautiful new
york and she did like a 9-11 reference as well wow because i think it was like on or the day
after 9-11 or they played on 9-11 at some point and she did it like and i just would be as strong
as you have been strong on this tarot like a kind of wow pretty balls out 9-11 9-11 reference i was
watching it with friends and we joked that one of them would do it.
Wow.
We would never have thought.
But she busted it out,
and obviously it's America,
so everyone,
woo!
And we were like,
oh, fuck,
she's really salted the earth
for Rajakhanu here.
Yeah.
Because you're kind of going to go,
I also think 9-11 is bad.
New York,
I just like to say. And she's like, yeah, what she said. What I also think 9-11 is bad. New York, I just like to say.
And then she's like, yeah, what she said.
What she said about 9-11, good stuff.
Thumbs down to 9-11.
And then when she got interviewed, it was like the most British, like, yeah, really good.
Yeah, happy.
Yeah.
It was just really like not grandiose at all.
She wasn't alive when 9-11 happened.
Yeah, it would be like you and me going, good work
on the Berlin Wall.
I've heard a lot
about it going and it's good.
It's gone. Just completely
yeah.
I really liked
how
incredibly sort of low-key
and English, British
the vibe was of a victory speech it was
still triumphant but it wasn't anywhere near like you'd think the canadian lady had won
she's also like she's 18 like what are you going to say when you're 18 well she's 18 and all she's
ever done is play tennis yeah to my knowledge i guess and school but you know like you wake up
play tennis do some school more tennis your school, more tennis. Your life is tennis.
Your life is tennis.
But I mean, I look back on some of the,
how bad I was at speaking at 18,
and I wanted to be a comedian.
If someone put a camera in front of me, and a microphone, I'd be like,
yeah, it's good.
I'm happy the ball hits the right place obviously it's difficult to train uh happy happy
9-11 happy 9-11 um i hope you've had a great day well not a great you know uh i haven't had a great
obviously i've had a great day um but i didn't want but not because of 9-11 in spite of
9-11 I've had a good day
I would have been like that
I would have just been terrible
and also you've just played what an hour or two hours of tennis
or whatever
oh yeah
I'd have sick down my front
I can't talk to people if I'm jogging
I get to
I get
one time one
one time guest on this podcast stewart laws and friend of the podcast alex keely
went for a run the other day because we're all on holiday together they both went for a run
and they neither of them wore headphones so they could talk. What? Welcome to what my vibe was when I heard that.
Oh yeah, but we can just talk if we don't listen to music.
Oh yeah, good point.
How are we going to breathe?
How are you going to breathe?
How are you going to breathe?
Talking?
You're running.
I'd like you to speak on the intakes as well as the exhales.
Do you like running? I like it as well, the exhales. Do you like running?
I like it as well, just like throwing up.
So are you watching anything good at the moment?
Do you recommend any fun websites?
My God, the eternal chat.
They said it couldn't
be done.
The Grail. Never need to
stop. If you were a
rapper, Phil, you could rap so well.
That's true.
But isn't this like Mongolian throat singing
or something? Isn't that how they do it?
Rotating, circular breathing and stuff.
Yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, you could keep chatting forever
if you just did this
and you could speak about anything you wanted
for the rest of your life
and never have to pause or go to sleep or eat
because you could breathe.
Just keep talking.
Just keep on talking, talking, talking.
I can't believe we've invented infinite talking.
You could just never be interrupted again.
It's horrible sounding.
It's how a demon would sound.
You know when you're having a conversation at a party or something,
and you're just about to hit a...
It's like a...
You know, it's an animated conversation.
It's a debate.
You feel like you're on a roll.
But you can see in another person's eye,
they've got something lined up they want to say.
They've got a rebuttal, but you don't let them in.
So you're like, i don't know well the thing about communism is it's it's
taken more lives than it could ever benefit and you see them um trying to piece together the
argument they're waiting to pounce and you just go and there's so much evidence for it if you just
get a look at your history and you should never have to stop. Don't be rude to interrupt you.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I think this is like a...
This is dangerous in the wrong hands.
God.
This is the...
Yeah, this is the nuclear button.
Vomit on your sweater already.
Horrible.
Okay, I didn't understand what that was.
I was trying to say
vomit on your sweater already.
Oh, right.
Trying to do like a
circular rap.
Mump spaghetti.
That is really haunting.
That's horrible.
Mump spaghetti.
Mump spaghetti.
Mump spaghetti.
The backwards men. What would this be?
Dop
Dop dub
That's Bud Pod backwards
This is dop dub
You're listening to dop dub
Oh horrible
Vomit on your sweat
How did you
Sweater
How did you do that so well?
Vomit on your sweater
That is That is genuinely haunting How did you do that so well? Vomit on your sweater.
That is genuinely haunting.
Vomit on your sweater.
Yours is very clear, mine.
I can't do that.
I don't know.
Although I was, I don't know,
maybe it's like our throats are different shapes.
Our throats are different shapes imagine if you just
heard this voice in
the middle of the
night
actually that was
okay
that would be alright
that's okay
it's so weird because
I can see your face
and it's not
god that's odd
I was annoying
my girlfriend the
other day by trying
to do the Mongolian throat singing,
trying to get that resonance going.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
That's an annoying thing to do around the house.
Try it.
I mean, it sounds a lot like the Tat Whispering Didgeridoo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the Tat Didgeridoo.
It's basically, as some pod buds pointed out, the Tat Didgeridoo was kind of throat singing anyway oh right yeah it's like
oh
it's so close i nearly got it there it's really hard you're breathing in at one point are you
no out just out the whole way but it's like you reach a point where the vibration is exactly the
right vibration for your throat and it sounds like that weird Is this good podcasting?
Sony Award
Backwards talking and
Mongolian throat singing
We're just playing with our throats
Oh no, it's an aria now, isn't it?
Like radio
Broadcasting awards, audio broadcasting awards
Oh right, we can get an aria for this.
It hurts as well.
And man, is it annoying.
I don't even know what you're doing.
If people are trying to...
Nah, nearly.
Oh, God.
Is that it?
Well, you've kind of put your whole head back there in a kind of... I think it's...
Oh, maybe.
No, that needs to be more resonant.
Yeah, that's it. They get like the whole chest going
Yeah
Not nearly
You can kind of feel it
When it starts to vibrate
At the right level
Any tips
Any nomads listening
Anyone listening on the steps
That would be good
What are steps
S-E-T-E-P-P-e-s stepes stepes the stepes
are what's the area it's a it's a sort of flat uh semi-arid grassland i think delightful lovely
this time of year i think it's most of the stands kyrgyzstan and uzbekistan and all that so sort of
mongolia north china all the way through all the diehard fans of various people go.
All the stans.
I'm a real stan stan.
I just love Central Asia.
I'm a real Kyrgyzstan.
I just love Kyrgyz.
If you're Kyrgyz, I stan you.
We stan a Kyrgyz queen.
Cannot do that joke with Pakistan.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
Someone's about to...
Well, if you're...
Hang on.
Hold on.
That would be like a slur version of saying like,
what do cows drink?
They really quickly ask something.
They go, milk.
And you go...
That's true.
Even I thought milk just said.
Yeah.
It's a good one.
God damn it.
It is a good one.
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C'est R-A-K-U-T-E-N. It's not a real It's not like an organic place name Oh It's like made up
An acronym made up of like
The provinces that make up the country
Really?
Yeah
Apparently
Pashtun?
Oh maybe
In the mountainous region
Ashton
Shton
Wait
Wait let's see if you can get them
Well I mean this is
This is hard I mean, this is hard.
I mean, I'm not even sure about Pashtun.
The Pashtun.
Well, that's the mountainous region.
Name, name, name.
Mongolian throat singing and Wikipedia.
Oh, okay. Singing and Wikipedia. Oh.
Okay, so it does literally mean
a land abounding in the pure
or a land in which the pure abound.
Pakistan.
Yeah, because Pak means pure in Persian and Pashto.
However,
the name of the country was coined in 1933.
Wow, that's early.
By Chowdhury Ramat Ali, a Pakistan
movement activist who published it in a
pamphlet. I miss
pamphlets. You and I would
in another life, you and I would be pamphleting
up a storm. You could change
the world of pamphlets back in the day.
Yeah, people were like, why did they chop off the king's head?
We have a new flag. They were like, wow, there's
a pamphlet. You read this.
It's a big pamphlet. It'll take you two minutes minutes it would take two minutes to read and you'll kill the king
yeah i've had to make this argument concise yeah yeah yeah this there's no room for error
concise and convincing and the pamphlet would just be like something like you also deserve potatoes and be like oh my god get
me a pitchfork we're killing the kids what is when people talk about pamphleteers what's a pamphleteer
you'd be like printing and distributing them like an activist right i believe right so you're an
activist you're a campaigner yeah it's like like Thomas Paine who wrote The Rights of Man.
I think that was a pamphlet.
And it was like a precursor
to a lot of America's Declaration of Independence.
And he was involved in that, I think.
And it was very radical.
Like everyone gets the right to this and that.
And everyone's like,
no, they don't.
No, they don't.
Shut up.
And when people say pamphlet in this context,
it's like literally a pamphlet
like what you consider a pamphlet now.
Pretty much, yeah.
Like just a little handheld thing. Like a pizza menu
basically. Yeah.
But old-timey. Cooler font.
Fewer deals.
Yeah. Fewer discounts.
Hmm.
Bring back the pamphlet.
Bring back the pamphlet. We could have a Budpod pamphlet.
A zine.
The Budpod zine. limited edition print run zine you can have a scratch and sniff and just smells like shit just scratch and sniff the directions is you have to put the magazine over your own ass
that's that's how we save money on actually printing a smell pad on
yeah this invisible ink that you can only see once you fart on it
that will reveal where you need to scratch and sniff
god's sake right so it is an acronym and there are one two three four five
although i'll give you a clue the fifth, they're just taking the stan from the end.
So that's kind of cheating.
Okay.
So, Pashtun?
That's literally the only word
I know. I don't even know if it's at the
SSA in Pakistan.
If it's
not Pashtun, I give up already.
Oh, okay. Punjab?
Punjab?
Yeah.
Okay, I thought the Punjab was in India.
I'm sure they've had to split it.
Yeah, it is split, isn't it?
I don't know, but I imagine.
You're just going to have to share.
Alright.
Alright.
We're going
away forever now, and we haven't organised anything
Bye
Sort it out amongst yourselves
I'm sure it will be fine
You all seem to get on
You've certainly behaved yourselves while we've been here
Apart from all the times we had to murder you
Well goodbye
The Afghania
Afghania
We apparently called the Northwest Frontier Province The Afgania Afgania Afgania
Alright
Which we would
We apparently called
The Northwest Frontier Province
It doesn't get much more
Colonial a name than that
You're talking about
Some frontiers
Northwest of where
Oh that's classic stuff
Yeah
Afgania
Afgania
Kashmir
Kashmir
Of course Who's staring me in the face A controversial Afgania? Kashmir? Kashmir, of course.
Who's staring me in the face?
A controversial place, of course,
and an excellent Led Zeppelin song.
Kashmir.
One of their best, I think.
So good.
Sindh?
Sindh?
Which letter is that?
That's...
What happened to the I?
That's the I, I suppose.
I guess that's the I.
The I in Sindh is the I in Pakistan.
I guess it kind of has to be, right?
Huh.
Yeah, that is weird.
And then Baluchistan.
Baluchistan.
Baluchistan?
Baluchistan.
John Baluchi.
What's where John Baluchi's people come from? That's where John Belushi people come from
that's where all his fans live
the Belushi stands
the ceremonial smashing to pieces of the guitar
it's like from Animal House
once a year
if you haven't seen Animal House
give it a watch
bit of fun
I made myself watch a movie isn't it mad this is what happened to my and maybe
our collective attention spans over the decades yeah remember back in the day you'd be like
don't watch a movie read a book yeah and then
it became
now
the much of like
TV
I've been drawing
just chess
I'm playing
in social media
I'm like
I really should
watch a movie
yeah
yeah
yeah
you know what I'm saying
sit by the fire
yeah
put on a film
I need to
I need to like
educate I need to enrich myself I'll watch a film yeah need to I need to like educate
I need to enrich myself
I'll watch a film
I'll watch a movie
a movie
for two hours
I'll sit and watch
a movie
I was like
wow
I felt like
well I'm basically
doing homework
I'm doing
I'm going to the gym
and I put on
what did you watch
Collateral
oh
have you seen Collateral
with Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx?
Came out in 2004.
Is that the one where they're on the train going around?
It's a cab driver.
Yeah, Jamie Foxx is a cab driver,
and Tom Cruise is an assassin.
And he's got kind of gray hair or something,
silver hair that looks really weird.
Yeah, he makes it look weird.
He looks like a spaceman.
He makes it look it work but it was
weird it's like i saw it come out in 2004 i must have watched that in 05 yeah right but i still
remember and i don't know if you have this with anything i still remember the thought of seeing it
advertised in 2004 2005 and going that looks cool i want to watch that sometime yeah and
i just never and and then and then i saw netflix like oh yeah i've been want to watch that sometime yeah and i just never and and then and then i
saw netflix like oh yeah i've been meaning to watch that yeah my thought was i've been
i've been meaning to watch that for 17 years yeah yeah i had that with there will be blood
right yeah i'd always be like oh yeah doopie Doop-a-doo. And just another seven years.
And so more than anything,
it was just to finally just slay this beast
and get that out of my head.
And now I've finally seen Clatterall.
A mainly ignored film from 2004.
Actually, yeah.
But very good.
Yeah, you liked it?
Very good.
You know when a thriller is just like,
this is really good, actually.
I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled the the dialogue is good the characters aren't stupid yeah yeah it's not
silly that's crucial it's not cheesy um it's like it's good you find out as much about the
characters as you want to yeah stuff's good stuff's implied you can imagine there is some nuance
some richness you can imagine yourself
dialogue is natural
so yeah I recommend Collateral
I did a homework movie
Heat
oh yeah Robert De Niro Al Pacino
oh wait
1995
no 95 I think
really good obviously the heist film oh I've not seen that is it good 95, 97? No, 95, I think. Really good, obviously.
Wait, that's...
The Heist film.
Oh, I've not seen that.
Is it good?
I confused that with Taxi Driver.
That's what I was thinking.
It's the one where Robert De Niro
is like a head of a gang of cool bank robbers
and Al Pacino is the head of the cool police people
whose job is to catch bank robbers.
Nice.
But who will win of the two?
Yeah. Incredibly acting men. these people whose job is to catch bank robbers nice but who will win of the two yeah incredibly
acting men i i was a lot of acting going on in that film big stuff especially from pacino a lot
of yelling are they acting i always wonder with the robert de niro and al pacino are they acting
are they just doing just being themselves, just going, who are you?
Also,
the guy,
there's at one point,
there's like a mob guy
who Al Pacino,
as a policeman,
just intimidates
and kind of blackmails.
And it's Hank Azaria
who does all the Simpsons voices.
He's in it.
And he's the one where
the famous clip of Al Pacino going,
talking about the mobster's wife
who this guy's having an affair with.
He's going,
because she's got a great ass
and you've got your head all the way up it.
And then he goes,
when I think about a woman's ass,
something comes out of me.
And he gets all weird about it.
Apparently, because the guy who directed it
is one of those guys who does like a thousand takes.
Yeah.
And apparently he had improvised that on like take 78.
Yeah.
This whole thing about, oh, great.
And you can see his mouth is about to say big ass.
Right, right, right.
Because she's got a great ass.
And you see him switch gears from great ass.
And Hank Azaria is the one he's screaming this at.
And he's genuinely horrified.
Like his reaction is real.
If you watch the clip, he's like. Oh, great reaction is real if you watch the clip he's like
oh great like genuinely why are you doing this to me and so it's such a good scene as a result
yeah but just because al pacino got bored and decided to be fucking weird um but yeah i agree
with the acting thing you and i just need roles that essentially demand of us to be us
roles that essentially demand of us to be us and people will be like wow what great acting yeah i think i can't believe keanu reeves played a cool relaxed guy who knows martial arts
yeah he doesn't actually know martial arts yeah yeah well because the amount of training they
had to do for the matrix films oh yeah he does know i think that's why they got him for john
wick because they were like well he's he's already halfway to John Wick. Right.
I know Kung Fu.
I know Kung Fu.
I know Kung Fu.
New Matrix coming out.
There is a new Matrix.
Yeah, I've not watched the trailer yet.
There's a new Matrix.
And Keanu Reeves is an incel.
And he takes the red pill.
And realizes that girls don't like nice guys like him.
Even though he's got a big leather coat.
I'd love it if in this one he takes the red...
Neo takes the red pill and goes,
My God, feminism's gone too far.
And he takes the red pill and just puts on a...
Like a black...
Like a Matrix patterned MAGA hat.
Yeah. All the techno stuff stuff propeller heads is playing yeah
neo is an incel
just deliberately plugging himself into the matrix
can't get a date
yeah amazing
interesting that they're trying to bring this out even though the
pill rhetoric has been so massively
hijacked by
spooky online communities
I really hope they throw in a little like
a nod to it
or like a little easter egg a little
acknowledgement of
sort of the
cultural memes it has inspired.
What do you think
it's like to have done something like The Matrix
and it's had such a huge impact on
just all culture and thought?
Like it transcends
film, right?
That movie is the reason why
you know it's time to leave a party
because someone starts saying, what if it's just
a Matrix man? And you go, that's when I should order my Uber.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When some fucking guy starts to say that,
time to go.
That's true.
And that evolved into the Elon Musk simulation discourse.
That's right.
It all started with the Matrix.
It all started with the Matrix.
That's right, yeah.
None of this is real, man.
I mean, if my dad owned an emerald mine
and I went to space,
I'd also think this was a simulation.
Yeah.
That's true, because it all just works out
just a bit too neatly.
Everything's just going really well.
That's why you think that.
I'll smack you in the head and you'll be like,
no, this can't be a simulation.
That was horrible.
Maybe that's why Jeff Bezos went up there.
He thought if he went up the Earth far enough,
he could see pixels or something.
Ah.
Yeah.
See the edge of the screen.
You could see earth.gif written underneath it.
I watched on Netflix a documentary about flat earthers.
Ooh.
A little bit of a freak safari
yeah
they were freaky
but I mean like the main guy
he's a reasonably like charismatic
guy softly spoken
softly spoken he wasn't that softly spoken
he's a bit of a
weirdo not a massive
weirdo but he just like he says
I made
Flat Earth and like there are all these feuds
with like
well there's a big feud between him and another guy
who claims to have started Flat Earth
who made Flat Earth big
and he's really loopy
and there's this
he's the lunatic's lunatic
yeah yeah yeah
you move on to him
after Yusuf gets bored of the normal level lunatics.
The funniest group among them, though, are...
So, Flat Earth has a science core.
Oh.
And they are like...
Quote, unquote...
Busy, are they?
Engineers and scientists.
So their core within the flat earth society is to prove scientifically that the world is flat.
Long days.
And it's them that show you there's no point arguing with anyone.
Because they design perfectly good
experiments yeah and the experiments give them a result that the earth is round like it's like
the got really excited they paid thousands and thousands of dollars for um what would you call
the device like a gyroscopic device basically it basically tells you in
in absolute space where you are so so basically put this thing down and when as the earth turns
it says it we have moved 1.4 degrees i think the earth is 1.4 degrees a day or something like that
oh okay so they're like great so we'll we'll buy this and then we'll just put it down leave
alone and and they're educated enough to to trust it and understand it yeah yeah yeah perfect and
then and the next day it showed is 1.4 degrees it moved and they're like hmm
right and then they encased it in lead oh yeah to stop the CIA from getting to it
to stop any interference
and took it out and yep still
it moved another 1.4 degrees
and they're like okay
so what's exciting is that we're now
we're getting a case made
of and they said some
crazy element
like pure
I don't know it's just like adamantium it's what captain america
they might as well have said adamantium that they were going to encase it in to to to show that the
earth wasn't spinning and they just perform all these experiments all the experiments show again
and again the earth is round the earth is curved and and but but there's something so inspirational
about how about them just refusing to they won't stop
they won't give in
and their determination
is actually quite inspirational
they're like people
organising a never ending rota of
prayer
to try and get
a response you know
prayer yeah because it's so faith based
what they're doing, right?
Yeah.
It's religious, basically.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, um...
No, it's very, very strange.
It's interesting.
I think, do you think, um...
Do you think they get invited back to speak
at their old science departments?
One of our graduates is the head of research
at the Idiot Club.
Why don't you come up here and tell us how stupid you are and how embarrassing you are.
Tell us how, in fairness, tell us how perfect your experiments are
and how stupid you are for not believing the results.
Yeah, it's faith-based stuff.
You can't reason yourself out of a position you
didn't reason yourself into that's very good not my words the words of elton john i don't know who
said it i was very maybe elton john um in terms of being um um a lunatic's lunatic i remember
uh comedian friend of the show friend of ours johnny leonard
oh yeah uh we used to be very amused at the idea of because obviously there's the comedian
a comedian's comedian you know like stewart lee say yeah and the comedian's comedian podcast
that's true very good podcast but the idea of a fisherman's fisherman
he catches fish that other fishermen really know are difficult.
Yeah, I guess the something-something sort of falls down when there's just an objective goal, right?
You either do it or you don't.
A lot of the fish that that fisherman catches,
ordinary members of the public who don't know about fish,
they wouldn't even think some of them were fish.
But if you're a fisherman and you see him fishing,
oh boy, you know that what he's doing up there is actually very clever. Yeah. But if you're a fisherman And you see him fishing Oh boy
You know that what he's doing up there is actually very clever
Yeah
It looks silly to catch one sardine
But it's also really hard
He's catching fish
Most of us throw back in the sea
Yeah
We don't think it's anything
He's catching fish in a way that we've never seen
Yeah He's catching fish in a way that we've never seen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
He's catching them by the tail.
Yeah.
How's he doing that?
How's he doing that?
The hook's going in the tail.
And it's not about the fact that it takes longer,
or the public,
and the normal people would just be like,
well, that's no use to me.
I want fish now.
But we can see this guy.
There's something special.
Yeah. Yeah, but you can't really have there's something special yeah yeah
but you can't really have a
could you have a surgeon's surgeon
somebody who does
kind of elaborate stitching
he puts the arm onto the front
it's
you've seen a lot more people
it's not popular
it's not popular
but just because something's popular
doesn't mean it's good
have you seen all those people
around with the front arms
that was him
that was him
the fronties
that's what they that's what they call them doesn't mean it's good. Have you seen all those people around with the front arms? That was him. That was him. The fronties.
That's what they call them.
The fronties.
The Franks fronties. Franks fronties.
Frenty Frank.
MD.
Thank you.
That's Dr. Frenty Frank to you.
I didn't study for nine years for you to call me Frenty Frank.
Dr. Fonty Frank.
It's like they say about Underground, right?
Not everyone listened to them, but everyone who did started their own band.
Yeah.
Well, not everyone went under the knife under Fronty Frank,
but everyone who did now has an arm on their front.
Not all of them became surgeons, but they all had an arm on their front.
That's for damn sure.
Fronty Frank made sure of that.
No, you fucking worry.
Oh, fucking hell.
Well, well.
Autumn's here, Phil.
The fallen leaves drift by the window.
The autumn leaves of red and gold.
Yes, at long last.
At long last,
the blasted, bastard summer
is gone for another year.
Our enemy, the sun,
has retreated.
But, you know,
every time,
this is how I feel,
because of global warming, this is how I feel because of global warming this is how i feel
about the summer now i see the sun recede away but it's like it's like i don't know fucking pennywise
in the first year just like i'm gonna come back stronger than it is like because because i know
every age is gonna get it's like it's like a mario level yeah super mario like bowser you go
well i'm gonna have to do this again.
And it's going to be harder.
And it's going to be harder.
There'll be turtles and skulls now.
He's like Obi-Wan Kenobi this time.
You may strike me now, but I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Because of carbon emissions.
And he disappears.
The first day of summer, I sense a presence.
Presence I've not felt since...
Your face burns.
Yeah, so every autumn now I'm like,
ah, summer's over.
And then my mind's like,
but next summer will be even worse.
And also don't forget fake summer.
What's fake summer?
Or hot autumn.
Oh no.
Mold autumn.
That horrible thing that happens in the UK
where it's 16 degrees, 18 degrees on Halloween.
That's the scariest thing I can think of.
Pouring sweat in your mask.
Horrible.
Horrible.
Horrible.
That's absolutely horrible.
It's horrid.
Horrid Halloween.
An horrid...
Avon Aurid Halloween
I want another fuck off blizzard
We've had a couple of good blizzards as well
This is what we can expect now
Just ever more dramatic battles between ice and
Ice and fire
A song of ice and fire
A song of fire and ice
That's a much more
Attractive name than
Global warming Don't call it that Call it a fight Fire and Ice. That's a much more attractive name than Global Warming.
Don't call it that.
Call it a fight of ice and fire.
The battle of ice and fire begins.
Yeah.
I've been told by a few people that I should,
I should A, join TikTok.
Don't.
Don't.
You've got to let Jinping in.
Don't let Jinping in.
That's right.
I need to get a special Chinese Communist Party only phone.
You're going to get Jinping'd.
I'd get Jinping'd.
That's right.
I'd have to just stay in his flat.
And just do like the medieval guy voice.
The song of ice and fire.
Most good.
Just do that kind of
generic fantasy slash medieval guy
voice. Just about
whatever.
But yes,
I'm going to try and enjoy
being the moment and enjoy autumn.
My favorite season.
Mindful autumn. And you're on tour yes yes
yes um i've done two weeks now they've been really brilliant fun i was in newcastle i was in taunton
i was in uh northampton oh uh it was and the crowds have just been brilliant and fantastic. Yeah, everyone's been a real blast.
And it's nice doing some new bits,
doing some old bits.
Check Insta and your Twitter for the dates.
Yep, yep.
And go on my website, philwang.co.uk.
Also, this Thursday, my book, Sidesplitter,
is released.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow. Tomorrow. released tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow Thursday
the 16th if you're near Alexandra Palace
there's an event I'm talking to
who wrote Empireland
the tickets
for that are somewhere
Alexandra Palace but if you're
anywhere please pre-order the book
or buy the book when it's out
buy the booch
buy the booch it's out. Buy the booch.
Buy the booch.
Booch is a German word that means bark of a tree.
That's where the book's from.
Isn't that the bark? Bark. People used to write on the bark.
Ah!
Oh, nice. You've got your own bark coming out.
Yeah.
I finally inscribed my own bark
with my words,
my thoughts.
I want it to sell enough that you have to do another one.
Because exactly, yeah.
I really enjoyed, like, as an art student,
and you were, you know, an engineer.
Yeah.
I just loved hearing the words, word count.
And, you know, like, oh, I was up late redrafting some paragraphs music to my ears
i loved it when you're you're now an honorary art student you've had the most the biggest si
crises of all but because of engineering i look at i look at sentences like equations that have
to be balanced yeah so i will just nitpick and nitpick and nitpick until i feel like
sentences about well that's why you're such a forensic stand-up, I think.
I guess.
Forensic.
Everyone's favorite thing from comedy.
People leave your shows going, God, that was forensic.
That's like watching CSI.
Fucking hell.
That blue light he shone around the room and everyone's stains showed up?
And he roasted people?
Fucking hell.
If we'd known, we wouldn't have come that's
forensic that's forensic and he solved that murder and he's all the actual murder of the cold case
one cold case per town yes i'm terrified i'll have to write another book side split two
two split two sides side splitter two time to split the other side. That's it.
Something like that.
This time it's split.
Yeah.
Time splitters.
Time splitters.
I remember that game.
You could write a novel of that game.
Yeah.
Another day trying not to shoot civilians in a warehouse that they're in for some reason.
No, that's not time splitters.
Don't they go through a warehouse
are you thinking of like the arcade games
yeah
I feel like Time Splitters was
no no no
Time
Bandits
no it was Time something
Time Splitters was
a Playstation game I think
it was not an arcade shooter
but I know where you're getting at
Time Splitters
it's not time team
that's an archaeological program
hosted by Tony Robinson
shooting reload reload
he's just nailing people
time splitters
spiritual successes to Goldeneye
oh
yeah so that's time splitters
that's a PS2 game
what am I thinking of then
it has got time in it time something Yeah, so that's Time Spaces. Oh, yeah, it was PS2. That's a PS2 game, yeah. What am I thinking of then?
It has got time in it, innit?
Time something.
But Time Arcade Shooter, this is going to bug me.
I grew up playing this in Malaysia, in game arcades, in Kotakunabalu.
Time Crisis!
Time Crisis, of course! Thank God.
Time Crisis.
Every arcade, you go in
I want to see a pink gun
I want to see a blue gun
Powder blue
Baby pink
Give me the guns
Clack, clack, clack
What is the crisis with the time?
There's not enough time
There's not enough time
Unless you put in more coins
Coins, that's right
That's the only answer to this crisis
How do we solve this time crisis?
20p
20p 20p coins
again and again and again.
It's an expensive
crisis but it's the only solution.
It's the only solution. The warehouse is full of people.
Yeah. Yeah. Just a random
like a pedestrian in a
mafia run warehouse.
Bolting out of the dark going, no, don't me!
Really suddenly. Making them
as large a target as possible.
Waving their arms around.
Like they're a goalie, making themselves so big.
Just leaping out and screaming in the face of an edgy...
An armed policeman who, everyone knows, is under a time crisis.
He's panicked.
And most people who pop out, he does have to shoot.
I say stay behind the barrel.
He will never see you because he's on these weird tracks.
He's in a weird little cart, yeah.
It's fine.
Well, we've
had our own time crisis and we've run out of time.
Oh, no. Time crisis.
The crisis has claimed us too.
Put in another quid everyone is
there no one safe from
this crisis to replay
this bud pod level yeah
slot in a quid see if
you can win enough
tokens that's it yeah I
mean I don't have
anything to plug other
than please keep an eye
out for whenever I do
release the film special
it won't be for a little
bit go do the edits and
so on but but when it comes out i want
i want everyone creating an artificially high number of views reality means nothing to me
anymore i just want the propaganda victory yes pod buds please let's all start um a sort of
open source bot network and view like a russian like a view farm yeah yeah a streaming like from the philippines yeah
the bud pod view farm okay great well you guys get to work on that um yeah and i'll see all see
all guys around see you guys on the tour yes see you guys there bye