BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 132 - Richard Lines
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It's Budpod.
I don't even know. What is it now?
What is it now?
Oh, gosh. Maybe
well, seeing as we've missed two weeks now,
maybe we've missed so long we have to just restart
and this is Budpod 1 again.
Oh, God.
We're just an hour in minus numbers.
I think we're Budpod 1.
Have we done 1-3-1?
Yeah, this is 1-3-2, I can see.
This is 1-3-2.
Okay.
Yeah, this is 1-3-2.
1-3-2.
Sorry to you.
Yeah, two. Sorry to you. Yeah, sorry. We missed two weeks on the trot there just because, well, life kind of takes over sometimes.
And Bud Pod Record Day comes along and we're both like, oh, no, I'm in Spain.
Or I'm fixing London's water supply.
We just find ourselves, I don't know, in random places doing random things.
Well, you're a busy boy with secret projects.
I've got secret projects.
I've also got my tour.
I have my tour, which I'm finally finishing.
I've got one more show in Brighton on the 18th of this month.
So if you live in the Brighton area, please come along to my Brighton show on the 18th of this month. So if you live in the Brighton area, please come along to my Brighton show on the 18th.
But yeah, aside from that, it is done.
Dunsy's the tour.
How are you going to celebrate when you do Brighton?
I'm going to splash out on a train ride back home.
You're not going to stop over some vegan shoes.
Yeah.
I'm going to buy a pair of cruelty-free boots
and a hemp phone
and I'm going to sponsor a goose
and all other Brighton-y things.
You're going to be seen on the Brighton to London Victoria late night train fast service wearing a pair of pleather thigh highs.
What are thigh highs?
Thigh highs.
Oh, thigh highs.
Yeah.
Those like insane boots where there's a point where it's like, just make them pants with shoes.
They're that high.
They're that long.
They're kind of pants with shoes now.
Yeah, these boots go so high, you've just made trousers from the opposite end.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly and
and and crucially that's the least the the less important end because the the the the anus and
genitals are completely visible with these thigh highs which could be an advantage depending on
the context the anus and genitals that's a that's a that's a fun way of saying scientific way
well it's a fun way of saying
ladies and gentlemen
do you think if you
anus and genitals please
calm down anus and genitals
do you think
if you said that quickly enough people wouldn't
notice they'd go hmm and they
wouldn't catch it
anus and genitals please welcome to the stage People wouldn't notice. They'd go, hmm? And they wouldn't catch it.
Anus and genitals, please welcome to the stage.
Yeah, I don't think they would catch it.
I think it would be like three minutes and someone would go, wait, did he say anus and genitals?
The person who noticed would be like the person in a horror movie.
They'd lean over to someone and go, he said anus and genitals.
And the other person would go, what? So he said anus and genitals. They'd go, what? When? And they'd go over to someone and go he said anus and genitals and the other person would go what what so he said anus and genitals they go what when and they go never mind and they just
the acts on that could be fun like a fun little prank a fun little joke just for you inside your
own mind that has no those are the noblest pranks of all, Phil. The ones that don't need to be...
You just set them free into the night.
You don't ever see...
You don't get to see the outcome.
They exist for their own sake.
Yes, that's like the truest form of art.
You don't care about audience or appeal
or the financial side.
You've made it and it's there now.
And that's it.
You wash your hands of it. That's there now and that's it you wash
your hands of it that's why there are some jokes that i just tell directly into the bins i walk
around town i just whisper into a bin a joke and i never tell anyone else i think the finest jokes
are the jokes comedians tell between themselves and it's like the kind of wine that that brew
like vintners or whatever keep back for their family that's genuinely how i think of it i remember reading that in a marketing seller
yeah the estate seller i remember reading it in a marketing campaign for some pear cider
and it claimed i have no idea how true this is that like oh cider families would have a big
orchard full of apples and then there'd be like a little mini orchard or a corner of the orchard would have pear trees.
And the pear cider would be like for the family, like special, like just in-house treat.
Yeah.
And that's jokes comedians tell to each other.
And they all never see the light of day.
They're trapped in hundreds of WhatsApp groups up and down the country.
Oh, if WhatsApp groups could talk,
we'd all be in jail.
Carl Donnelly has a joke about that,
about every man would have to leave the country.
It's true. That's where the real comedy is right now though whatsapp groups
isn't that a sad indictment of our of our society they're like the late the the the
open all night coffee shops of 50s new york they're just all in whatsapp groups
Oh, boy.
Apologies if I'm sounding roomy to anyone,
because I'm in a room.
I'm in a new room, because I've moved house.
That's right. The current room in this current house is empty.
There's nothing.
And so there's nothing to block the sound waves,
and they just bounce off the walls.
It's kind of depressing, actually.
Do you feel a bit like the Punisher
or someone who has to live on the run?
I feel a bit like...
Yeah, I feel a bit like I'm in Breaking Bad
and about to dissolve a body in acid.
It feels like I've just found some abandoned house to get rid of my enemies.
Yeah, like Dexter, you put the fucking tarpaulins down and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
You could totally hear me go, as I'm talking to you, just, sorry about that.
I hate that sound.
I hate the sound of stepping on some crinkly plastic.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
It's so unnatural.
My brain just goes, this shouldn't be here.
This shouldn't exist.
Sometimes when I hold a plastic bottle as well, I go, this shouldn't exist.
Really?
I didn't know this at all yeah sometimes so wait so maybe
i'm a hippie does it give you a reaction like like it like an involuntary reaction or is it
like an abstract very sort of thought-based thing that's happening um i guess that
i think it's an involuntary sort of animal thing. Yeah. Of like
this isn't right.
What
foul magic is this?
But you've been moving house actually that's
another, between the house and the secret projects
that's another reason why Budpods have been a little
more erratic than erotic.
Yes.
It's usually yeah, usually Bud Pod is erotic.
It just gives you a full-on stiffy or the lady equivalent.
But recently it's just been erratic.
The opposite of erotic.
Unless you're into erratic movements.
Do you reckon that's a kink anyone has?
So erratic, like 28 Days Later zombie-style movements?
What, like a kind of
a sort of sexual rhythm
that has absolutely no sort of consistency to it?
Yeah.
And it's accompanied by...
Well, now we're straying into the question
of if there's such a thing as a zombie fetish,
and I'm sure there is.
For sure.
There's got to be.
Yeah.
Yeah, in a zombie fet fetish when you suck someone off
you suck them off
you put your
suck right off
you're proposing
a zombie movie where you become a zombie
if you let a zombie fuck you instead of bite you
yeah that's right
and that's the only way you can become
a zombie I think we've just come out
we're always coming up with great movie ideas here
and I think we've just come up with our first great porn.
Porn
or like
it would be sort of pornographic and harrowing.
It would be a harrowing satire of some kind.
Like the original zombie movies were meant to be.
Yes, of course.
The original
what's the one set in? The of the dead was about like consumerism
wasn't it all these zombies still bearing down on a shopping mall yeah well even night of the
living dead in black and white was about um the zombies were created by sort of radioactive rays
from space and it was through sort of the space race and the cold war the nuclear threat
there's sort of elements of that to it the paranoia and and
and death of its time what would the name of our zombie porno be called um
so what do i do with the waking dead maybe like brain. Getting brain?
Yeah, or just brain.
Instead of brains.
Oh, brain.
Yeah, that's nice.
That's good.
That kind of works.
I think it's a bit too subtle.
Yeah, it's quite subtle.
Shambling, shamble, shambling.
They lurch.
There's nothing much sexy in this. I want cum in there i want like slut i don't want the word slut in there at some point what about like
um you uh uh what about like something about how like uh they're gonna really eat your ass
that's the tagline yeah that's written in like that kind of... That font in red in that font that looks like it's been painted with a big brush.
Yeah, yeah, and it's like dripping a bit.
They'll really eat your ass.
They'll eat your ass for real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The walking head.
Walking head, that's pretty good.
What, Pawn of the Dead?
Pawn of the Dead, yeah, of course. Of course uh what porn of the dead porn of the dead yeah of course oh yeah very good very good very good porn of the dead
and then yeah you could do yeah within it you can have porno versions of obviously sean of the dead
as well yep yep that's the the funny the spoof of our porn will be made yeah and if we get enough
funding then we could maybe even get the actual cast of shaun of the dead to fuck each other on
film god that'd be so expensive can you imagine imagine how much did i score imagine imagine if
you had all of their like phone numbers or their agents numbers right so you could like it's not not going to happen, but you would just be able to put the feelers out there and go,
okay, but how much?
And they'd go, no, no, no, no.
And you'd go, no, no, no, seriously, seriously.
There must be a number.
There must be, come on.
Just say to them, like, let's just say that I've got some investors from, you know, the Gulf.
Money is no object.
How much?
And,
and,
and reassure them and say,
we're still,
we're still going to hire Edgar Wright to direct it.
Don't worry.
It'll still be quirky.
And,
and like,
and send wells and like funny.
Yeah.
It'll all be,
God,
it's gotta, there's, there's gotta be a number, but yeah, it would It'll all be... God. It's gotta...
There's gotta be a number, but yeah, it would be...
It would be expensive.
Well, Simon Pegg's a big...
He's a proper star now.
Yeah, superstar.
He's in James Bond and shit, yeah.
Was he?
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
No, I'm thinking of Mission Impossible.
That's what I'm thinking of.
I was gonna say, yeah.
I just saw the new James Bond and he wasn't in there.
Is it good? I've heard it's good, the new James Bond and he wasn't in there is it good I've heard it's good
the new James Bond
it's good
it's worth seeing
definitely
nice
it's definitely worth seeing
yeah
it's um
it's interesting
I won't say anything
else about it
but it's definitely worth seeing
yeah
it's a good old Bond film
oh nice
I've never
I've never ever liked Bond
I've never got it
I've never ever got it
what Bonds have you seen
I've seen uh Casino the one I've never ever liked Bond I've never got it I've never ever got it What Bonds have you seen?
I've seen Casino
The one I've liked the most
Is Casino Royale
Yeah
The
You know the first
Of the Daniel Craig ones
And I think I like
The Pierce Brosnan ones
Maybe
I think they were fine
But
The rest I just find so
Boring They're so
boring and hard to follow.
But what about, like, the ones
between Casino Royale and now?
Awful. Quantum of Somerset, not
a clue. Not a clue what could happen in Quantum of Somerset.
I quite like Skyfall. No, I'll
give you that. I like Skyfall.
I thought Skyfall was good.
I think it's quite good that Daniel Craig is stopping,
not just because he's fucking old.
Yeah.
The trouble is, what people go like...
That's another name for a zombie movie?
Fucking old?
Fucking old, yeah.
Yeah.
Assuming, no, but then...
Yeah, assuming these are old zombies.
Pushing up daisies, open brackets with my zombie cock.
Yeah, yeah.
Close brackets.
So it's good Daniel Craig is stopping because he's basically zombie now.
Well, he's...
He's a zombie walking out of the sea in trunks.
Yeah, yeah, he's older.
But so he's older than Sean Connery was when he was, like, in quotes, too old or whoever.
Really?
Yeah, Daniel Craig's, like, one of the oldest Bonds.
Maybe the oldest.
I don't know.
Gosh.
But.
More than like.
More than Roger Moore.
More than.
What was the guy who only did like one with the dark hair?
Daltrey?
Yeah.
No, Lazenby.
Daltrey did two, I think.
Oh, okay.
Dalton.
Timothy Dalton did two.
Dalton.
No, but the point too, I think. Oh, okay. Dalton. Timothy Dalton did too. Dalton. No, but the point is that I don't think that's valid because they're going like,
oh, do you remember when so-and-so in the 70s had to be Bond and he was all fat and swollen and blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, yeah, but Daniel Craig is absolutely fucking shredded.
Yeah.
He's like 53 and he's absolutely shredded.
So the critique doesn't stand.
He doesn't look like he's 53.
He looks like he's just won an Ironman.
We see him a bit nudey in the film.
Not like nude nude, but a bit nudey.
He's in incredible shape.
He's got those lines that go down to your dick.
Really? He's got dick lines?
He's got dick lines and square tits. He's got a dick V and square tits at 53
Of course he's James Bond
I mean he's going to have like
Fucking special
You know berries flown in
From the darkest Amazon
To boost his immunity
You name it he's got
Daniel these are ab berries
You must eat them
The ancient Aztecs believed
That you could get dick lines
By eating these berries
Yeah all these like old Aztec
Drawings and paintings and stuff
Where it's like an Aztec guy
Going oh I'm pointing at his
Dick V He's pointing like an amazing dick V And then there's loads of other Aztec guy going, oh, I'm pointing at his dick V.
He's pointing at an amazing dick V,
and then there's loads of other Aztec figures around it,
kind of gesturing to it with their hands,
like people in a dance in a musical,
like, look at this.
And in the bushes of these berries surrounding it.
Yeah.
And that's why anthropologists are like,
ah, this means that it was these berries.
Have you seen Daniel Craig introducing The Weeknd on SNL?
Oh, of course.
There's a Twitter account that just tweets it every Friday.
If you haven't seen this, Podbuds, I don't know why it's so good about it,
but it's Daniel Craig introducing The introducing the weekend as in the singer
the weekend on saturday night live and the way he introduces it he goes
ladies and gentlemen the weekend like that and it's so funny because i it's like it's like
you can't decide is Is he saying it weird?
Basically, he's over-egging it.
He says, the weekend, like that's shaking his head
as if he can't believe the weekend's there.
But not only that, he's exhausted.
He's exhausted by his own disbelief
that the weekend is about to perform.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like meeting God.
But it's also like, I don't think he knows who The Weeknd is.
And he's trying too hard to make it look like he's a big Weeknd fan.
Yeah, well, like he's been told.
He said to someone, who's The Weeknd?
And they went, The Weeknd's huge.
You don't know who The Weeknd is?
Of course I do.
Yeah, of course.
And he went, oh, I'm 50, so I'd better really, you know.
I've been told this man.
He's like, the man at the shop said it was the best album.
It's that vibe.
We should have talked to Stuart Laws about this, guest of the pod, friend of the pod.
We should have talked to Stuart Laws about this,
guest of the pod, friend of the pod.
Because he could talk for hours about the finer points of the intonation and physicality of Daniel Craig saying,
ladies and gentlemen, the weekend.
He's obsessed with it.
So is Alex Healy, comedian, friend of the pod.
Oh, I've got to talk to him about it.
It's got a lot of fans out there, just that one clip.
And it's like three seconds long.
Mm-hmm.
Ladies and gentlemen.
The Twitter account that just tweets it every Friday afternoon.
It's got a lot of followers.
It's got like 465,000 followers.
Yes.
For just doing that.
Just doing that.
It's crazy.
And people love it.
Yeah.
It might be...
It's a testament to Daniel Craig's range
apparently he signed
a deal with Netflix
to do like
seven more
Knives Out films
or something
insane
really
they're gonna make more
some insane number
maybe not seven
but it's way more
than just one more
oh great
yeah that was a really
good film Knives Out
yeah I enjoyed it
with his mad
his mad accent that I thought it was pretty good it was a bit mad I Knives Out yeah I enjoyed it with his mad accent that I thought was pretty good
it was a bit mad I thought it was funny
I thought about this because he's in that with
um
Arma
the lovely Arma something
what's her name she was going out with Ben Affleck for a bit
oh uh
fuck yeah
and she's in James Bond the new Bond
oh of course
yeah
I hadn't
I hadn't quite
oh I hadn't clocked that
yes of course
very good
because she's like
she's the protagonist
in
Knives Out
yeah
the sort of
the nurse
good guy
and sort of
a bit
you know
a bit cutesy and innocent
and then she's the
sexy Bond girl
in the latest Bond.
But Daniel Craig is also acting in both of those movies.
Is it weird, like,
oh, we were sort of silly together in this movie,
and in this movie we're sexy together?
You know, I don't know.
I was thinking about that.
Do you think it's, like, partially because they sort of go, like,
do you think they ask him, like,
who have you worked with who's a kind of sexy person who you
like working with and he's like oh
she was great
and they go great. What do you think Daniel?
Do you reckon?
Well I don't know. She's obviously
physically attractive enough to be a Bond girl
so someone who's
physically attractive enough and also gets on with
the main star has got to be a pretty big bonus
to your cast ability.
Ana de Ar armas the lovely ama de armas i'm a dharmas ama de armas if my surname was dharmas i would not call my daughter ama
i'm throwing that out there maybe it's a stage name
uh you know there's a Malaysian Bond girl
Malaysian Bond girl
Back in the day
Michelle Yeoh
Which one?
From when?
Which Bond was she in?
She was a
She was in
One of the Brosnans
Oh
The one where he's kind of in Hong Kong quite a bit one of the Brosnans oh
the one where he's kind of in Hong Kong quite a bit
oh right
in 1997 wow
gosh it was two hours long
remember the day when movies were
were long if they were two hours
yeah I will say
this about the Bond movie it does feel like
every movie I see now feels like it's begging for a Netflix series
because there's just not time
no time to die
yeah there's no time to die
and there's no time to go in too deeply
on various characters
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um but yeah just overall i think it's good that um daniel craig is stopping not because he's old
because as i say he's in amazing shape although i'm sure it takes a toll on him now more than it
did when he was you know 30 or whatever the fuck but they like every every movie that he was in had
because they were trying to keep it good continuity, you know?
So every Bond movie kind of has to...
The plot has to at least half be about mopping up the last Bond movie.
That's it.
And that's what I'm worried about.
Because I don't know where we left off.
I sort of remember the big plot point at the end of Skyfall.
But aside from that, I don't remember all the stuff that happened between him and Eva Green.
I never followed that really.
Yeah, it's just read the wiki or something.
But also the other thing is not just that it has to mop up
the previous Bond stuff continuity-wise.
It's also that, like, how long can you be rogue?
You know, like every single movie it's like,
he's rogue, but he's coming back in to do something or he's in but he's gonna go rogue or he's not in or rogue but he's gonna have to
choose between coming back or being rogue and at a certain point you've either just got to be at
work or just not at work he's um he's working from home they should have done that this movie
He's not gone rogue
He's working from home
Bond over Zoom
Yeah
He's got a license to kill from home
Yeah well he's just flying a drone
He's flying a drone
But the drone is wearing a tuxedo
And holding like a martini On one of the wings He's flying a drone, but the drone is wearing a tuxedo.
And holding, like, a martini on one of the wings.
Also, to be fair, like, working from home, like, Zoom backgrounds and stuff,
and everyone's in swivel chairs, that works for Bond villains.
That's true.
I've been expecting you, Mr. Bond. I admitted you into the waiting room for this Zoom chat.
But it's a good one, this new Bond.
Yeah.
How long is it?
It's pretty fucking long.
It doesn't feel that long, but it is long.
How long was it? It's a good question.
It's more than two hours
god that makes me angry but the trouble is that they're stuck in between
a movie that's very like a, a bit thin and a Netflix series.
Yeah.
Netflix series have such an advantage because you can spend, like, 12 hours going,
Ooh, this guy is pretty suspicious.
Whereas in a movie, there has to be one scene where he kind of raises his eyebrow in a cafe.
That's it.
That's all you have.
Yeah, the movie's going,
is this guy suspicious?
Yes, he is.
Okay, chase, chase, chase, chase, chase, chase, chase.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Oh, I wonder if the tension...
Instead of slowly building up sexual tension
between two characters,
it has to just be like,
hello, I'm Bond, James Bond.
Hello, nice to touch my breasts.
Okay, and then immediately...
I don't think i've ever believed
a romance in a movie ever like not not one that begins in the movie because it's not enough time
and and especially like if it's an if it's an action movie and the hero he meets a little gal
they they have two interactions and then he will literally say i love love you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just go, fuck off.
I'd like a movie where...
No, you don't.
You love the idea of her, Ryan Reynolds.
You don't...
Love is a commitment, not a feeling.
I was told this once when I was a kid.
We had...
Our school, for some reason, all the kids kids in Malaysia in my school in Sabah
we were
yeah
taken into the hills
it's starting to sound a bit
dodgy
but we were
we were taken into the hills
into the mountains
into like
into like a lodge
up on a
on a mountain somewhere
right
and we had sort of
sort of like
one-on-one sessions
with
not one-on-one sessions
but like
you were taught how to make love
group sessions with the right one-on-one sessions, but like group sessions with... You were taught how to make love.
The right way.
Sorry, Phil, is this the plot of Red Sparrow?
And I remember we had a teacher who'd come,
he'd come from, I think, I think it was Nigeria. It was a Nigerian guy who came in
and taught bits of drama and stuff
in the school and he took on this uh this sort of lesson where he's talking to the boys i think
it's one of those where they split the boys and the girls and he's talking to the boys about like
relationships at school and like having crushes on people and how i think there was there was uh an epidemic at the time of um boys saying they
were in love with girls or like they loved the girls or something right and he was like
love is not a feeling love is a commitment and i don't know that always stuck with me
and i think there was so there's actually something quite right about that i think it like a it definitely sounds good enough to to be like that would have stuck
with me for sure that's a pretty especially if it was in the mountains
um stuff you're told by a nigerian guy in the in the borneo mountains you'd assume there was some
something to it yeah it would be weird if a nigerian guy took you into the the mountains of borneo just to go oh no nothing no just wanted to hang out yeah just go lefty
loosey righty tighty okay back down the mountain we go just to go just to say don't eat yellow
snow and then slap you and then back down the mountain in a completely snowless country i think
i think love is um well a lot of a lot of love is a choice right like that you hear that from
people where they say you wake up every morning and and and work on work on it like it's not like
some natural self self-creating feeling yeah not forever like you've got to be committed to someone and
take it seriously and put the work in and all that i think that's true i i have this problem
with people who who talk about being happy as if it's like an achievable constant state
yeah yeah yeah but that's like trying to be on mdma all the time i think it's just not
like you might even if you achieve it it not viable. And it's not even necessarily appropriate.
And it's not even a necessarily good thing.
I was listening to something recently about...
I listen to a lot of Radio 4 at the moment.
And I think it was the start of the week.
It's a really good show.
And they're talking about life through the first person.
And how our ideas...
And how emotions go in and out of fashion
in a weird way over the centuries.
And sadness didn't used to be something that had to be avoided at all costs.
Sadness used to have value.
It meant that you were experiencing life,
that you were processing your experiences
and that you were being a human person living in the moment.
So it had value.
It wasn't like something that had to stop as soon as possible.
Whereas now, sadness is like,
if you're sad, you must be doing something wrong.
There must be something wrong and you have to change it.
And if it's not you doing something wrong,
then there must be something society is doing wrong.
You have to change that.
Whereas back in the day people used to accept sadness as a part of the human condition yeah it's it's seeing it as now that that would have been good up in the
mountains too to hear that that would have been helpful especially from nick robinson
if you've been taken into the bornean mountains by a nigerian teacher and then
he's done ladies and gentlemen mr nick robinson ladies and gentlemen the weekend
now that would have been amazing if the weekend had been um in the mountain ranges and he'd he'd
said to you love is it love is a choice you make every day. And then left.
No singing.
He'd say, love is a choice you make every day.
Also, I'm from Canada, not America.
Is that true?
Is The Weeknd Canadian?
I think like all the most famous Americans, he is Canadian, yeah.
He's one of the sneaky Canadians.
He's one of the sneaky Canucks.
I'm searching The Weeknd. He's one of the sneaky Canadians. He's one of the sneaky Canucks. Ah.
I'm searching the weekend. Riding in on a truck hidden under a giant maple leaf.
A truck full of easily affordable medication.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, he's Canadian, yes.
He's from Toronto, one of the main bits of Canada.
And he is our age, which is terrifying.
Oh, no.
I hate it when that happens.
Oh, no.
Not you, The Weeknd.
Now, I think if he didn't become super famous and successful,
everyone would agree that The Weeknd was a terrible name for a person.
Yeah.
All band names are shit until you're successful.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Imagine saying, like, our band is called The Who,
and they'd be like, okay, ha-ha, but...
Okay, what is it really, though?
Yeah.
Or even, like, The Beatles.
You said it got, like, what, like, bugs?
What?
It's like, no, we've replaced beat as in the beat of a drum.
It's like, oh, so it's a stupid pun.
Yeah, you're right.
It's a pun on a bug that doesn't even, irrelevant.
What does that have to do with, do you dress as beetles, the bug? No.
It's not a bug.
Are your songs about insects? No.
Yeah.
What's that, does the bug play, like, does the bug make a noise that's like a drum in nature?
Like a woodpecker? No. No, it's not relevant. No, but it's just beetles spelled with a beat, like a beat like a drum in nature? Like a woodpecker?
No.
It's not relevant.
No, but it's just
Beatles spelt with a beat
like a beat of a drum.
Yeah.
And then
obviously they were quite good
so people went
yeah, they called the Beatles.
They called the Beatles, man.
I guess although
the 50s and 60s
were a good
it was a good time for puns.
Yeah, they'd only just been
invented, hadn't they?
Yeah. It was the miniskirt the contraceptive pill and puns. That's they'd only just been invented, hadn't they? Yeah. It was the
miniskirt, the contraceptive pill, and puns.
That's right. That's right. And all you
had to do, like in Bond films,
is say a pun and you could have sex with a Swedish model
before exploding.
I wish I was alive in the
60s sometimes. It must have been so good
to be famous in the 60s and 70s where
you could do what? where there were no repercussions
for anything.
Yeah. Nothing at all.
Now people are like, people should be held to account.
Not if you're the people.
No, you wouldn't want that if you're the famous
rock star. Oh, it must have been so great.
But also like, there were
only three TV channels. So you're just like,
well, I was in one sitcom and then I was absolutely sorted for life i bought a village yeah exactly yeah
yeah for obscure tax reasons in the 70s i am a feudal french lord i was in one episode of
only fools and horses and now i own the town of salisbury that's it yeah it's it's
insane they go oh it was the lowest rated episode of that sitcom so only 10 million people saw it
gosh what do you think gosh what do you think? Gorsh. What do you think?
It's funny, isn't it, to think back to those days and like...
I always wonder about all the shit we don't know,
like all the Jimmy Savile stuff's come out and all the other stuff,
but then there's got to be more, doesn't there?
Yeah, there's definitely a couple of guys out there in sort of faded bell-b bell bottoms just sweating in their armchair every day
but do they feel do you think they feel like um ex-nazis like that bit from um like when
magneto kills a bunch of nazis in that bar yeah yeah yeah definitely like it's like they're they
maybe if you were like a horrible sex fiend in entertainment in the past
you now feel like a Nazi
war criminal
living in South America in like the
mid 70s when the Israelis
were going around assassinating them
oh
did the Israelis do that?
yeah they did it well
they kidnapped Thingy eichmann and held
him on trial in israel and hanged him there wow pretty sure whoa that's dramatic but understandable
that's funny i i just started listening today to i've been listening so much radio for um on bbc
sounds and um there's a great radio for series called nuremberg oh Oh, nice. And it's about the hunt and the trial
of the
Nazi top brass right after the end
of the Second World War.
It's dramatized,
but it's dramatized quite well. I mean, there are
some ridiculous American accents in it.
It's quite obvious, I think, well, it's quite obvious
all the actors are British. They're like,
Sarge, you might want to come in here.
And it's like, come on, man.
Just hire some Americans.
Back in
my hometown of Boise,
Idaho, we didn't
talk...
But yeah, it's so dramatic.
I didn't realize that
Henrik Himmler was captured.
Like, he was captured.
And when the British doctor was, like, looking, you know, checking his person, looking through his hair and all that.
Yeah.
And opened up his mouth.
And he saw, like, this glint of a cyanide pill in the back row of his teeth.
And he was like, he's got one.
And Himmler was just like, and just pulled his head away
and just thought it was dead in 15 minutes.
It's just, it's so...
Rad seems like an insensitive word, but it's fucking rad.
It's just so dramatic.
Well, it's the real deal.
I mean, the stakes don't get higher than trying to fucking pin down Himmler and hang the little prick, you know?
Yeah, like tracing these guys down.
And some of them were just really loose, like the guy who'd made Hitler Chancellor.
Chancellor? That's the word, isn't it?
He didn't even bother running.
He was just like, when they found him, he was just sat in his country estate.
Just going,
oh, hello, come sit down.
Like,
some of them were just like,
whatever, it's happening.
Some of them like drove right up to the Americans,
like, here I am.
But then some were just like running through the Alps and shit.
And there's one,
like,
American
operative who's like this Harvard educated guy,
and he pretended to be a lost
hiker
and he's like hey I'm lost
he's like wearing lederhosen and stuff
and then when the Nazi let him in he's like
you're under arrest it's just so dramatic
and it's kind of those
stories where you watch movies and you go
oh this would never happen this is good but it never
happened but like
in the second law it it kind of did.
Oh, if you can think of something,
the only time when you're watching a movie
about anything like that,
where you say, oh, this would never happen,
is if it involves magic lasers or robots or whatever.
Otherwise, it's probably happened.
I mean, just think about when Jamal Khashoggi
got sawed into pieces in an embassy in a foreign country. happened i mean just think about that when like jamal kashoggi got
sawed into pieces in a embassy in a foreign country yeah that's nuts they didn't even wait
to get the bot they did the yeah they got rid of the evidence there in at the scene of the crime
and they recorded it why did they record it it was some audio recording of it got leaked or something or maybe there was a bug in the room i don't know yeah dude yeah i mean definitely definitely look into um any of the movies about
like the the the odessa network and and all the little like the little spider webs and rat tunnels
that the the nazis used to escape to sort of south america or a couple of guys who were
quite high up in the ss ended up living in ireland um but then then you reach the the murky territory
of okay but they weren't convicted of war crimes but they were in the ss so that's when you go well
can you just show up and assassinate them then kind of in my opinion go for it yeah yeah i'm not gonna be like hey hey come on leave him alone hey that's
that's unfair i'm not gonna i'm i'm gonna look the other way you know yeah no it's actually
amazing like um well never mind that and also like all the crazy US and Soviet fighting over German atomic scientists,
missile scientists.
Yeah, of course.
The guy who designed the V2 helped with Apollo 11, right?
Yeah, von Braun.
Werner von Braun.
Yeah, yeah.
America got to the moon because of the v2 the
v2 rocket scientists it's pretty crazy yeah this is not a story in in this um in this nuremberg
uh program uh where so the in there's this town in luxembourg where right after the second world
war they took the allies predominantly the americans took over this uh hotel this grand
old hotel and it turned it into into a prison for the captured Nazis.
Yeah.
And especially like top brass.
So they had, they didn't have him there.
They had Goering there for a bit.
Yeah.
And one day, like this train turns up at the station of the town
and all these skeletal withered people
start sort of crawling out of it and they're the recently liberated prisoners
from the concentration camps and Nazi concentration camps who finally come
home to their own their hometown their own village and they've they start like
moving towards this hotel with the other villagers,
because they know, someone's told them,
all the Nazis that did this to them
are in this hotel in their hometown,
and there's this incredible moment
where the Americans are lined up,
and they hold up their guns at,
because they can't let anyone hurt these prisoners
because they need to put them on trial.
And so now they're standing down
the only just liberated, emaciated
prison of war camp victims.
And they're about to shoot them
to stop them getting at the Nazis who just did it.
It's crackers. They didn't. They didn't in the end. and they're about to shoot them to stop them getting at the nazis who just did it it's it's
crackers they didn't they didn't in the end but like there was a moment where they might have
done it was yeah it's insane sometimes pierre it's almost as if real life is stranger than fiction
well then the nazis were they were imprisoned but it was it was a luxurious hotel so it was
kind of a prison made of gold. Well, this is the thing.
It wasn't that luxurious, apparently, this hotel,
but some journalists who wanted in on the story
weren't let in.
And so they just started,
they made up the story that the Nazis were being put up
in this really luxurious hotel
and being treated like royalty.
And then the Soviet press, a russian soviet press
well right yeah the russian press um got hold of this and russian radio started playing this story
because they were worried that the allies were going to make a deal yes with the germans and
keep out and keep out stalin and stuff so they started going oh the americans are treating these
nazis as like kings and so then this was a bit of a pr disaster and uh and and the americans
then had to give a tour of the hotel to journalists to show that the nazis were sleeping on mats and
were being given only 15 000 1500 calories a day and all this sort of thing yeah it's very it's
really good that is i i do know that the the british when the the high-rank the high ranking Nazi military generals and stuff
that the British captured were put up in a kind of
isolated country house
and it was one of the
first houses that was rigged like every
single room was rigged entirely for sound
to record yeah and there were
microphones in the lamps there were microphones in the
chandeliers there were microphones hidden in the tied tables
and the walls were like hollow with like people you know
hiding in there listening recording like everything was recorded on tape the entire attic was just a
recording studio and um they picked up a lot of intelligence and like they they wanted to hear
what the generals said to each other about hitler's state of mind like gossip secrets things like that
great and the old generals never thought for a second that they were being recorded and they about Hitler's state of mind, like gossip, secrets, things like that. Great.
And the old generals never thought for a second
that they were being recorded
and they were treated quite well
and they were given lovely dinners with loads of booze
so that they would just completely let rip with each other
in private, smoking cigars or whatever,
thinking like,
yeah, the English are very hospitable, very good.
And secretly everything being fully transcribed.
Yeah.
That's just the power of good British hospitality.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's why the British are so polite and reserved,
because they think they're being recorded.
Oh, that's good stuff.
Anyway, that's our history quota fulfilled for the episode.
Yeah, well, we weren't doing Budpods when we heard about Norm Macdonald.
Oh, gosh.
Did we not?
Did we not?
I don't think so.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, did we mention it?
I don't know.
Anyway, R.I.P.
Still watching clips of him.
R.I.P. Norm.
One of the greats the greatest the funniest
so good
another sneaky
Canadian
sneaky Canadian that's right
there's so many
something about the mixture of
North American and British
culture makes Canadians very funny
yeah and he was amazing that if you if any pod buds don't know no mcdonald he's got a great
netflix special on netflix called uh well funny enough uh hitler's dog something something something
something and hitler's dog gossip trickery and hitler's dog yeah that's it he got some trickery
and hitler's dog and he's got some albums on Spotify as well.
They're really good.
It's a really funny description of stand-up he would use,
which is describing it as gossip and trickery.
Yeah.
Yeah, he sort of just floated above the whole thing in a way.
You couldn't really pin him down.
Yeah. As doing any really pin him down. Yeah.
As doing any particular kind of thing.
Yeah, it was just amazing.
Phil, so Brighton on the 18th of October?
Brighton on the 18th of October.
The Brighton Theatre Royal on the 18th of October.
Also, my book is still out.
Can you believe it?
Have they not taken it away from you yet?
They've not taken it away from anyone.
They're not banging down people's doors.
They're not kicking down people's homes and demanding them back.
You can still buy my book, Sidesplitter, from any good bookshop.
And if you go somewhere and they don't have it,
then you have permission from Phil to say to them,
this isn't a good bookshop.
This is no longer a good bookshop,
for it lacks the best book.
Side Splitter by Phil Wang.
You can shout, and it's the nice family-run book owner's face.
I thought this was a good bookshop.
No, I think it's bad.
Not a bad bookshop, as it appears to be.
A bad one?
And the owner will be going, no, please, we can order it, please.
And then you go, well, you'd better.
That's a horrible intonation.
Where do you learn that intonation?
Well, you'd better.
Well, you'd better.
Or I'm going to think it is bad.
What about you, Pierre?
What are you up to?
I had basically a month off from being um uh bullied by uh my my romanian personal trainer my romanian friend in the gym
uh now i'm back on being bullied phil i'm back on the bullet train great
great great great i'm gonna get i'm gonna do that i'm to be the strongest podcaster. That's my dream.
Yes, that would be a Guinness book record.
That would be a Guinness record worth having.
World's strongest podcaster.
People will nudge each other when I'm in a bar and they'll say,
you see him?
He's the strongest podcaster.
You're just like crushing microphones with one hand yeah exactly and drinking like and you just pour all the bits in it
into your mouth like it's a like it's a drink
i wonder who the strongest podcaster is maybe it's joe rogan
probably i was just thinking it must be joe rogan he's gone nuts but i guess all it takes
is like for the guy who played
the mountain in game of thrones to start a podcast so then he'd be the strongest right oh man if yeah
i mean yeah i would to be fair i would listen to a podcast just about if you look at what he has to
eat every day it's amazing oh really it's like a full goat it's insane as you know it's like 20
eggs like it's insane it's insane like gaston in 20 eggs. It's insane. It's insane.
Like Gaston in Beauty and the Beast.
It's the bit where
Gaston is just tumbling eggs into his mouth
every day forever.
I love that bit. I was like, I want to do that.
I loved eggs. I still love eggs.
I would have loved to eat a bunch of eggs.
Just like...
Juggle them into my mouth.
And they look like they go down
so smooth in gaston's neck they do i used to eggs i used to be very jaded phil about
chicken or turkey drumsticks hmm and it's like, right. As in you thought they weren't all that.
I would watch a cartoon, and what I would see, Phil,
is I would see essentially a cartoon bone
with a fantastic globe of meat on the end.
Yeah, yeah.
And, yep, that's right.
You could suck off the whole thing like you're in Pawn of the Dead.
Yes, exactly.
You'd suck the whole thing right off.
Off the bone.
Or you could chomp it off in two big tears
and it was all meat
and it was all wonderful looking.
Yeah, that was brilliant.
Yeah.
And then you'd get a real chicken leg
and it would have cold, wrinkly skin
and it would have an extra weird mini bone in there
and there would be a gristly bit.
Yeah.
A mini bone.
A mini, like, spiky bone.
I didn't see the spiky bone on
Aladdin when
the genie had a bunch of
chicken legs. Well, this is it.
This is it. When I was
watching Gaston chewing that turkey leg, I didn't see him
go, oh, and then very carefully pick out a small
sharp bone. Also
avoid the cartilage at the end.
Or like, oh, is this bit meat is this meat or is
this the little bit it's i always think it's like a kind of it's like a cartilage version of the end
of a shoelace it's like that little tube isn't it well at the top i'm i'm struggling to think
what this bit is there's there's a sort of There's a sort of cartilage sort of cap.
No, not like the knuckle.
Okay.
Not the knuckly bit.
I mean, it's sort of like at the bottom
as it tapers towards the base of the drumstick.
If we have any vegan listeners,
they're throwing up right now.
And they won't even be the first people
that we've made throw up with our voices.
There's been two so far.
Yeah.
Well, we used to be the brown podcast. We used to be the brown note. we've made throw up with our voices there's been two so far yeah well we well used to be we used to be the brown podcast we used to be the brown note we used to make people poo and now we're making them throw up um i had a very well we're already making people
throw up that's right well oh um on a separate note i had a funny thought the other day for like
um like if the if the brown note really properly existed right um a really like amazing and funny thing that you could do is uh film an enormous like a
warehouse rave you know like a big crowd of people at a rave and then film them being played the brown
note under strobe lighting and just these little flashes of of people's sort of faces going oh god
yeah yeah yeah and so you only see flashes of increasing amounts of poo on the dance floor
yeah and flashes as people's faces sort of contort and they kind of double over
so you don't have to just watch a room full of people go Oh god what's happening and then shit themselves
You get these little glimpses of
People looking around in confusion
Like the red wedding
The brown wedding
If I was very rich that's what I'd do
That and porn of the dead
Have you heard what Pierre's been up to recently since he won the lottery?
Yeah, it's weird.
He just made a zombie porno and then got all these ravers to shit themselves in this warehouse.
I don't know.
He's currently possibly facing 350 charges of minor assault.
The judge isn't even sure how to classify playing the brown note to people.
It's going to make legal history.
Well, another podcast done.
Basically, some plugging was done.
18th in Brighton.
That would be good.
Yep.
Some plugging.
Some Nazi history.
Some Nazi history.
Some Bond theorizing.
We didn't actually talk about who we thought the next Bond should be.
We'll save that for next episode.
Just to whet your ears. Just to whet your
ears. Just to whet your
little ears. Just to get your ears
absolutely soaking.
Soaking, dripping, just falling out the middle bit.
Just gushing.
Alright listeners, enjoy the
incoming autumnal weather.
Bye!
Leaves are falling. Bye!
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