BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 162 - BonusPod Holiday Special 2!
Episode Date: May 4, 2022Hello again! Still on holiday, so here is BonusPod 143: The boys talk about Malaysian Santa's big digger, heli santa, Mel Gibson, being trapped in a WhatsApp group, heaven and hell gamble, Mrs Claus a...nd Pierre does a VERY silly song called "Twerking My Way To Nazareth" Get bonus BudPod on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What a crazy week it's been. I presume, I don't know, I'm recording these in advance.
That's the point, remember? Welcome to another special bod pod bonus pod release glimpse 162 um this time uh you are being treated to a
little taste behind the naughty curtain of the bonus pod 143 so uh just to clear up any confusion
this is the bonus podcast that relates or was recorded directly after episode 143.
All those moons ago.
What's happening while you're listening to this?
I'm trying to think into the future.
I'm on holiday, and Phil, I think, might be in the American Midwest.
Might be in Minneapolis at this point.
Not sure. Not sure.
Send them a tweet.
Or a leather-bound
scroll.
Anyway, thank you for listening, guys.
Here's your little glimpse.
And enjoy BonusPod 143.
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143
Bonus pod
You've gone to visit Santa
At the shopping centre
He said, sorry children
That's all the time Santa has for you this year
As you follow the other children out
An elf runs over
And grabs you by the wrist
And says, not you.
Santa wants you to stay.
You watch as the other children
leave the sort of styrofoamy glue.
And you turn around and you see Santa sat there.
He's gesturing, he's beckoning you towards his chair.
He says, come, child.
I've got an extra present for you.
And suddenly Santa separates in two, like a pantomime horse.
The behind is me, Phil, wearing Santa's trousers.
And the top is Pierre, of course, wearing Santa's top and his own beard.
Welcome.
Welcome. To Bonus Pod. Welcome. Welcome.
To Bonus Pod.
Christmas edition.
That's exactly it. And when you
were a child
in faraway lands, Philip,
did you go to any grottos?
I...
I don't think we
had them.
A grotto is a hard thing to explain at the best of times.
And no one was really fat enough to be Santa.
So all these sort of kind of depressing, like, sad, skinny Santas.
I think the first grotto I ever went to was in the UK.
And I was a bit too old, I think.
And I could tell I was too old. I was embarrassed to was in the UK and I was a bit too old I think and I could tell I was too old I was embarrassed
to be there
and I think
Santa asked me what I wanted and I said
a Playstation 2
and in his mind he must have been like
well obviously I'm not fucking giving you that
tickets for this for £10
but I remember
him looking quite good
and he was really into the part
he was into the role
but I think I only ever went to one
oh I do remember
yes one of my earliest memories actually was
in Malaysia somewhere
and Santa
turned up on
on a
what are they called
on a
on a fucking steamroller
the
like no a bulldozer he turned up on a bulldozer
it was at night and I just
saw like mum just said
Santa's here and I turned around and it was at night and and i just saw and like mom just said santa's here and i turned around
and it was this huge light and i was really small so it was enormous and this huge light i was
blinded by these lights in my memory it was coming right at me directly at me the big bull
and mom she's going it's santa and i I looked up and Santa was driving this enormous bulldozer.
And so from a young age, part of the Santa mythology for me
is that he drives a bulldozer, like a huge bulldozer.
I can't tell you how little money I would have bet on you saying bulldozer.
I was like,
okay, there's a small chance Phil's forgotten the word for
sleigh. He might mean
like, oh,
he was in like a kind of carriage,
you know, like something that's a bit sleigh adjacent.
But you meant like fucking
heavy machinery.
Construction machinery, yeah.
Yeah.
And it was at night. What a detail. it was at night what a detail
it was at night
yeah
and I can't remember
what the event was
why we were there
and why he was in the
boulders
it wasn't like
the JCB
annual Christmas
party or something
I didn't really know
it wasn't like
the caterpillar
Christmas
party
it's your mum
still like
look this is It wasn't like the Caterpillar Christmas party. And your mum still would be like,
Look!
This is good and aligns perfectly with our expectations, isn't it, son?
Yeah, it's like if the Mad Max universe had a Santa Claus,
it would be this guy.
Hail petrol.
Do you know what's weird is that, like,
that's a great example of a situation where,
in an effort to make the situation less fucking weird for a kid,
by pretending it's normal, you've made it way weirder.
Because kids doubt themselves all the time
because you're little and you get stuff wrong and you don't know how
anything works so if your mum is like
well there he is
nothing to see here then you're going oh right
what
whereas if your mum was like oh Santa's here
don't know why he's driving a digger though you'd immediately go
right I know what the hell is that about
well I mean I guess someone must have someone would have needed to build those
uh elf workshops and everything in the north pole
right i was thinking about the idea of like a malaysian santa's grotto
um and i like the idea of um because a grotto is like a cave
right
I've never known what a grotto is
it is a cave is it
it seems to be like a cave or like a nook or something
but then I like the idea of like
Father Christmas in Malaysia being like
fucking Colonel Kurtz
from Apocalypse Now
he's just in this cave deep in the jungle
with like wet green walls
just waiting there.
Well, my mother remembers when she
was a child in India.
She grew up for a couple of years
on a tea estate in
India. And they went
to the club there, sort of
colonial
legacy
club for all the British tea managers, tea estate managers colonial legacy club
for all the British tea managers,
tea estate managers.
And on Christmas Day,
Santa Claus turned up in a helicopter,
like a Narm vet.
Well, not a vet,
a Narm soldier,
just covered in bullets,
strapped all around him.
Sorry, kids, the sleigh's broken father christmas like
rappelling down with armfuls
of gifts that are just like
given to you like ammo
go go go
you're a hard man to find Claus
you're a hard man to find claws he's got like a candy cane in his teeth as he suddenly emerges from from from a bush
santa why why are you covered in an armed helicopter? You're covered in bullets.
And then it's like you get the kind of slightly upsetting truth of Father Christmas
where he's like, we've got to fly over a lot of non-Christian countries to get here, you know?
You're like, ugh.
I mean, it's true, but it doesn't sound very Christmassy.
It doesn't sound very nice.
There was a movie they made of a sort of action man style
Santa Claus. It was Mel Gibson as Santa Claus.
Do you see the trailer for that?
It's ringing a lot of
anti-semitic bells.
Yeah.
Yes. I mean
our Mel is
no stranger to the
Christian legend, that's for sure.
Oh, yeah.
And if you give him the chance to combine it with a bit of healthy militarism, he will do it.
Mm-hmm.
He loves it.
It looked like a cool movie, but then I never heard anything about it afterwards.
So I guess it wasn't very good.
Mel Gibson is so insane.
I still haven't watched that movie where he
only talks to people through his hand puppet or something
oh god
what is that? hang on let me find this
he turns into a puppet
he turns into a puppet
Mel Gibson hand puppet movie
the beaver yeah he only talks to people through a beaver.
Oh.
No, I don't know that.
So it's a psychological drama film
directed by Jodie Foster.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah.
Al Gibson, The Beaver.
Walter Black is a depressed CEO
of a toy company nearing bankruptcy.
He is kicked out by his wife to the relief of their elder son, Porter.
Fucking American names, I swear to God.
Disgusting.
Walter moves into a hotel.
After several suicide attempts, he develops an alternate personality
represented by a beaver hand puppet he found in the trash.
Jesus Christ.
He wears the puppet constantly, communicating solely by speaking as the beaver,
which helps him recover.
Oh, it's got Jennifer Lawrence in it.
It must have been quite early on, Jennifer Lawrence.
62% of Rotten Tomatoes.
It's free on Prime.
I mean, I might watch it.
I'm enticed enough.
I want to look up the Mel Gibson Santa Claus.
Ah, yeah, it's called Fat Man.
Fat Man.
Oof!
45% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Here we go.
To save his declining business,
Chris Kringle, also known as Santa Claus,
is forced into a partnership with the US military.
Making matters worse, Chris gets locked into
Chris gets locked into a deadly battle of wits
against a highly skilled assassin
hired by a precocious 12 year old
after receiving a lump of coal in his stocking.
I like that. That's a fun idea.
So a 12 year old who gets
a lump of coal in his stocking
pays for an assassin to kill
Santa Claus
That's such a good idea
How do they mess it up?
How do you mess up something like that?
It sounds like a biting satire
I mean it sounds brilliant
But it's got very
It's got very low ratings
What Hollywood star do you think
it would be the most frightening to
just have to have a quiet
dinner with, just the two of you?
I mean, Gibson's
up there, I have to say. Yeah, but like,
you're at, like, a holiday home
and they've cooked for you.
Hmm.
So there's a bit of tension around oh what a lovely meal thank you
you know you have to be on the back foot very grateful
oh Shia LaBeouf
without a doubt
yeah that could be something weird about that
where you think at what point will this become a terrifying
art piece
yeah
yeah
you can't be 100%
what you're eating isn't human flesh
Tom Cruise
Yeah
But he never makes a bad movie though Tom
And I feel like he wouldn't make a bad meal either
To be fair he does seem like he sees
Every aspect of life as a kind of hit performance
So maybe you'd have the best dinner of your life
Exactly
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Ah.
Yeah.
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I lost my invite.
Can I come in anyway?
After party in the manger.
You bring a gold fricking set simmer.
I bring a custom Gucci fur. That little kid better play his drums. invite. Can I come in anyway? After party in the manger. You bringin' gold, frickin' sense and
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That little kid better play his drum
cause I need rhythm to shake my bum.
I ain't no bitch to be fuckin' with cause I'm twerkin' my
way to Nazareth. It turns out
they were Bethlehem but you got this bitch so
who needs them?
Happy birthday, Jesus.
No heralds allowed.
Yes, that's true, isn't it?
Hmm.
Hmm.
Phil, we need to discuss a common predicament we have,
and we'd like to try and make these extra...
We'd like to try and make
these bonus episodes a little...
Not a load spicier,
but a little dash of habanero here and there.
We do, yes, yeah.
And this isn't that spicy,
but let's face it, Phil,
you and I are trapped in a WhatsApp group
within which we've never sent a single message.
Yes, I think it's a predicament of the 21st century.
I'm sure we're not alone here.
Sometimes you get roped into a WhatsApp group, it's true.
Yeah, you and I are in a WhatsApp group
that started for a birthday drinks
that has become a super spreader event
that we did not attend.
We did not attend.
And I mean mean it's been
sadistically satisfying to watch my decision not to attend said birthday party vindicated
by 18 messages a day of people's positive lateral flow tests so listeners this started out as a where to meet up for the birthday drinks whatsapp
group um i like phil i messaged the birthday boy and i gave my apologies um because i had a flight
coming up back home for christmas and i felt very bad about it but as phil says you do feel better
when like now you know a week later genuinely it's just a support group for everyone who went
and apart from almost everyone apart from one or two people
Has like severe Omicron COVID
And so
Phil and I are just getting these constant updates
About people going like has anyone found a way
To stop the constant aches
And stuff
Terrible
We were saying before weren't we
And it's funny for a group that started off
As 7pm At the King's Plough or whatever.
It's the same group.
If you scroll up far enough, that's what it is.
And now it's anyone else getting an ache inside their belly button.
Like, not the stomach ache, but in the middle of their belly button,
it really hurts.
I like the King's Plow as the pub name.
That's a really good name.
Thanks.
Yes, yeah, if you scroll back out,
everyone's like, oh, pints are on me.
And then now it's, yeah, just people saying,
is bleeding from the eyes normal?
Terrible. I mean terrible it perfectly charts the
narrative arc of
a zombie movie, of a horror movie
of everything starting out
celebratory and ideal and happy
and idyllic
and you can chart
the fall
of everyone involved
the early messages are like The fall. Yeah. Of everyone involved.
The early messages are like,
in a horror movie,
where the family are like,
can you believe this beautiful old house was so cheap?
It's Final Destination, basically,
this group, right?
They all thought,
they all tried to cheat death.
And one by one, death is catching up with them well touch wood not death but uh yeah but the disease yeah it's a very boring episode of final destination where instead of death it's just
it's covet it's not even different illnesses yeah but the where does touch wood come from? I'm just thinking, where does touch wood come from?
I think it just avoids Horrible spirits
Why wood?
Is it just an old pagan thing?
Charmed wood, yeah, let's find out
Certain woods are more magical than others, Phil
Where does touch wood come from?
Where does?
You have to be careful, of course, looking up touching wood
On the internet
Folk practice.
It derived from the pagan belief, thank you,
that malevolent spirits inhabited wood
and that if you express the hope for the future,
you should touch or knock on wood to prevent the spirits from hearing
and presumably preventing your hopes from coming.
True.
That's from The Guardian.
Sounds like one of those. preventing your hopes from coming true that's from the that's from the guardian but sounds like it sounds like oh it's it's notes and queries which just looks like a reddit so that's the
guardians hosted oh notes and queries is the worst it's essentially just people who are like
here's something that i made up that could be the answer i've never heard of notes and queries but
yeah yeah it it's it is is essentially Reddit where people just go,
if they're answering honestly, they would just say,
I don't know, but no one can do that.
So they just have to go, I can kind of make up something, if you like.
Well, a lot of these results are saying something to the effect of
pagans believe that the trees had spirits
and stuff in them. Yeah. And I'm
sure that's a possible explanation.
Yeah, I'm sure
it's possible.
I'm sure
it's absolutely possible. But the question,
Philip, the question is how
do we
and do we want to leave the WhatsApp group?
I'm finding it quite interesting although there
are a lot of messages about people's covid there are a lot um yeah it's quite nice to be able to
watch people um and and sort of get uh it feels like a personal sample i'm getting of Omicron and how Omicron is spreading.
It's like, you know what I mean?
It's like a working example to have in my pocket.
Yes.
To follow.
I feel like Chris Whitty
and I'm following the evolution of this pandemic
through a carefully selected sample of of people yes yes it is
interesting and and you know we we know the people involved and it's good to be up to date with them
not being desperately ill i suppose although i don't think they know we're in there no yeah it's
that weird thing where where you're in a very large whatsapp group and and late late on in your
involvement in it you go I wonder who's actually
in this? And you click on the top for the list of names
and you go, oh God, they're in it, they're in it,
they're in it. Oh, have I said something about
them? And you just have to go back through everything you said.
Yeah. It's a terrifying
place, the large
WhatsApp group. Well, it's like
we've accidentally stayed
for too long at the
wrong orgy and we're just sat in a chair in the corner the thing is you can't leave without
announcing yourself this is my problem with whatsapp right it's a fucking tattletale it's a
tattletale you try and delete something you regret posting it goes oh uh just so everyone knows phil
deleted something okay i'm not to tell you what it was.
You just need to know that Phil wrote something down
and regretted it enough, he deleted it.
And then again, if you're going to leave a group,
it's like, oh, well, Phil thinks you're a bunch of pricks.
It's like there's no way to do these things on the sly with WhatsApp.
It's also because the message someone left always comes up like
it has to come up after something
and it always looks like you left because of the most recent
thing.
As if in this WhatsApp group someone will be like
good news everyone, my eyes have finally stopped
bleeding and you're like, well I'm leaving. I'm fucking
sick of it. Boo,
boring, bye. Keep them bleeding
that's what I say, bye.
It's a yeah, it's...
It's a bit of a, I guess you could call it, Pierre,
a sort of a first world problem.
It's not a real problem in the grand scheme of things,
but it sure feels like one.
I think I might have mentioned this on the podcast before but my my most right-wing christmas belief is uh annoyance and annoyance at how impossible
this is just this is just apropos of me trying to make the bonus episode spicy right i'm adding
stuff into the pot i'm stirring it um if you go to a supermarket none of the christmas
cards are christian christmas cards right yeah yeah none of them are like the three men
following the star yeah none of them mention religion the visuals are never anything to do
with the nativity the star or or or anything religious at all It's all just like a cartoon of Father Christmas
with like a ball hanging out
and the caption's like,
oops, merry whoops-ness.
Yeah, I fucking, I hate like
cheeky boomer humor Christmas cards.
But what annoys me is
I want to say to the card companies
or the people who stock the cards,
I want to be like, hey man,
if I'm sending someone a Christmas card at all,
they're pretty fucking serious about Christmas.
Yeah, let's bring God back into this, shall we?
Let's bring back a little child by the name of Jesus El Cristo.
All right?
Yeah.
We just want to say, look, the millennial and younger markets don't
send bits of paper to each other in the fucking
post it's mental
if we're doing it
it's to someone who is so
Christian or into
Christmas that we're bothering
to go through all that effort so
they're probably pretty keen on
on the big J.
Yeah?
Yeah. Or they're
so old they have a lot
riding on the existence of this guy.
All right?
Yeah.
We're sending them a
reassuring card and on the front cover of the card
it better be, hope for a brighter tomorrow.
Mm-hmm. And there's the everlasting life after this one exactly even if that life it could be being on fire i you know the whole everlasting life thing like you could go to heaven or you could go to hell
You know, the whole everlasting life thing,
like you could go to heaven or you could go to hell.
I think it'd be fine for them both to exist,
but we get to decide whether or not we flip that coin.
You know what I mean?
Because like,
if heaven and hell exist and there's a chance I could go to either,
I'm not a betting man.
I just want, I will opt for eternal sleep.
I will opt for just unconscious darkness because i don't yeah heaven sounds nice but it's not the worth the risk of everlasting suffering
in the pits of hell with the devil i don't i don't that and i don't back myself enough that
i'm comfortable like i'm confident i'm going to go to heaven i just i don't i don't want to enter the casino
but there should be an option for i don't want to play so you're you're like the you're like the guy
uh saying to god the only way to win this game is not to play right yeah and you say that and
then as you say that god's face just changes and you go oh no and he stands up out of his golden throne and he's just like this.
Well done, Mr. Wang.
I think you'll find that that was the right answer all along.
It's only people who say that that go to the real heaven.
Oh, nice.
Oh, that'd be sweet.
Yeah, because there's nothing holier than game theory. Um,
can you think of anything spicy Christmas based to,
to add some,
uh,
add some chili to this,
uh,
gravy Turkey.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Oh yeah. Hmm. Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. Oh.
Yeah?
Hmm.
Um.
Hmm.
I, what my spicy Christmas takes.
I, uh, uh, I. What my spicy Christmas takes. I think that Mrs. Claus doesn't pull her weight.
I think
she wasn't driving a fucking
a digger
I think she knew what she was doing
when she married
Saint Nick
there's a bit of a Melania vibe
about her if you know
what I mean
I'm sure she was the fucking
shit in her 20s but now she's kind of she's milanian
she wasn't for she didn't foresee santa would still be working at this age she kind of wanted
to kind of retire yeah just enjoy enjoy the house in the north and she. And she's made the most of having
that elf workshop next door.
Exactly.
So that's my
most contentious
shock jock opinion
about Christmas is that Mrs. Claus is a
fucking gold digger.
What was her job before? That's what I want to know.
She gave up a pretty high-flying job in the city actually she was a corporate lawyer mrs mrs claus uh used to work for glaxo smith kline
i like the idea that yeah you'd like uh you visit the North Pole and you meet
Father Christmas and he's like, let me show you
my workshops! And you have a nice
time and you're like, oh, the elves and the reindeer.
And then you end up just in the kitchen
with Mrs. Claus and you're just like,
how did you meet?
What the fuck?
Did he kidnap you?
Yeah, or did you, like, sort of engineer your meeting like Kate Middleton?
Like, did you find out where Santa went to university and applied there too?
Like, how long has this been the game plan?
Did you?
And she just gives you this sort of naughty smile and goes but why
whatever do you mean come and she picks up a tray of mince pies into the next room
did she did she just stay up late with a mince pie on her bum
it was a sort of sexy treat for Father Christmas.
Was it, maybe that was, you know, her, like, maybe he picked, do you think Father Christmas uses the naughty list or the nice list to pick his girlfriends?
Oh, interesting.
He's got everyone's data.
He's already a doxxed stalker freak Right Yeah I don't remember signing off
On
The
Unnecessary cookies
That's the cookies every year
Of course
That's why Santa's been asking for milk and cookies
We've been giving him the wrong cookies
He wanted to track our internet behaviour
Right
We've solved it This makes a lot of sense This makes a lot of sense the wrong cookies. He wanted to track our internet behaviour. Right.
We've solved it. This makes a lot of sense.
This makes a lot of sense.
Also, why...
They live forever, the clauses, but
why did they stop ageing at old?
Yeah, they've really fucked that,
haven't they?
Did they get to decide when they stopped
physically ageing?
Yeah. Did they Yeah For the brand we should be old
Yeah
They're so dedicated
We need to seem like grandparents
Yeah
Yeah
If we were like an incredibly sexy
Young couple people would get the wrong idea.
What a couple of mercenary bastards the Clauses are.
And there's no competition.
They have a monopoly.
It's not honest.
They really do.
And they sort of, they convene products from lots of different producers.
They were Amazon before Amazon.
They'll sell whatever.
Oh, yeah.
They'll distribute anything, no matter where it's made.
They don't give a shit.
They'll distribute, Cental will distribute a wooden horse and an Xbox.
That's something I saw as a kid.
I've been making these in the same workshop.
Yes. Yeah. As a kid
you go, well not this because it wasn't
out, but you go like, right, so you've given me
this sort of Lego which is kind of okay
or like a block of a wooden toy
but also like a fucking Oculus Rift.
I was like, toy but also like a fucking oculus rift what kind of fucking alien technology are you working with here
which elf has the solder
ion that's what I want to know
who gets
the sort of charming mallet
and who gets the solder
ion and the computer chips
who's getting some mercury poisoning?
To say nothing of the legions full of elf coders.
All right, this is Sleepy the Elf.
He's our JavaScript expert.
He's our JavaScript expert And the fact that the stuff you get is available
The rest of the year too
Is that the same or is this like Father Christmas
Own brand rip off version
Yeah
It just doesn't stand up Phil
I'll say it
It just doesn't hold together for God's sake
Something about this whole Santa Claus It just doesn't stand up, Phil. I'll say it. It just doesn't hold together, for God's sake.
Something about this whole Santa Claus theory doesn't add up.
Call me a conspiracy theorist,
but I think there's more to this Santa thing
than he's letting on.
Yeah, like you leave a postcard
with Father Christmas on, right?
You leave it under the windshield wiper of a journalist's car.
And on the back, you just write, look into the fat man.
There's something he's not telling us.
Doesn't add up.
Yeah.
And then just the last thing you write is,
follow the cookies.
If you want to know the truth, follow the cookies.
Yeah, all the journalists' fevered notes.
Mrs. Claus hyphen where met?
Three question marks.
Well, that's the end of the bonus pod
That's the Billy bonus
We've jingled all the way to the end
We've jingled all the way to the end
Of the bonus pod
The secret Santa's grotto
Where Santa's willing to bust out the mince pies
That have been lightly dusted with coke
Instead of sugar, etc.
Yes, fun Santa.
Yeah, Santa can party.
Why not?
That's right.
I mean, he has to stay up all night.
He has to stay up all night.
You think he doesn't have a good Coke dealer?
He calls it snow, of course.
It's a little cheeky joke he's got.
Suffice to say, the elves have got quite the greenhouse set up.
That's for Boxing Day.
The weed.
Yes.
But yes, Merry Christmas
VIPs.
Patreons, have a very patron Christmas
And thank you again
For your support for being pod buds
For being founding
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For being Tat Whisperers
Hope you get some lovely tat this Christmas
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To share it with us and we will address it of course
Of course we will always address it Of course we'll address it of course of course we will always address it
of course we'll address it
but until then jingle jingle jingle
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
Bye Bye