BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 194 - Haw Haw Haw
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It's Budpod 194.
194!
Ho ho ho!
It's Christmas time, sort of.
That's good.
In a few days.
That's like Posh Father Christmas.
Ho ho ho!
Ha ha ha!
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Ho ho!
Ho?
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I think it'd be like ho.
Ho ho ho! Ho ho ho! Oh my god! Ho ho ho, ho. I think it'd be like ho. Ho, ho, ho.
Ho, ho, ho.
Oh my God.
Ho, ho, ho.
Murray, Murray Christmas?
Ho, ho, ho.
And to all the good nor.
When did posh London ladies become...
Because I associate now with Australia.
This is it.
Well, I think there was in the noughties...
Well, first came the...
It's upswing, it's called.
The ending sentences.
Ending sentences.
Like, they're a question.
Yeah, talking like this at the time?
Yeah, that was a valley girl thing.
California thing.
But I think it originated in australia
so the valley girls and then and then it hits uh the uk and maybe i guess it became a cool way to
speak speak yeah for a while and i think that maybe maybe the australian influence came in
through that yeah because it invites validation doesn't it because you're you're you're creating a sort of darren
brown question and everything you say so the other person has to go yeah yeah yeah
right and it's uh i suppose it the appeal is that it sounds like you aren't putting much effort in
or you're not really interested in what's going on,
or that you sort of have more important things to think about
and more important places to be.
Or that you're sort of...
Which is like vocal fry, right?
They're kind of like...
I'm poor.
Yeah.
I think it's a British version of that, right?
No.
It's that, but the question thing as well is also like,
I'm socially forcing you to agree with what I'm saying about Susan.
It just feels like she's been a real bitch recently,
and you're making the other person go, uh-huh, uh-huh, yes.
You're correct.
You're right about that.
Well done.
Right, yeah.
You're compelling people to agree with you
just to keep the conversation going.
Yeah, out of sheer fear that you'll
go... It just feels like sometimes
popcorn's not the right treat
and then you won't say anything and then they'll
just stop talking.
Yes, this is
the last
Bud Pod before the Christmas time. Mistletoe is fine but yes this is the last pod, bud pod before
the Christmas time
mistletoe is fine
drinking wine, have a nice time
yeah that's right
as the old Christmas carol goes
yeah don't forget pickle stored in brine
pickle stored in brine
eating lots of limes
A sour Christmas
A sour tangy Christmas
An acidic Christmas
Are you going back to the island?
I will return to my island home
But not yet
Not yet
Soon
Will you return on a longboat?
And there's
horns going
as you approach the shore.
When I go back
to the island for Christmas, it's the opening scene
from The Norseman.
Yes. Basically.
People running through muddy
semi-streets. Yeah. Little children running People running through muddy Semi streets
Yeah
Little children running
Giddily to meet you at the shore
He's coming
He's coming
And you're stood on the helm
The helm? Not the bow, the stern of the ship
Yes
I wish it was like that
As opposed to just a prop plane
By prop plane you mean like
Not a real plane, a sort of fake plane they use in movies
Oh no it's a real plane but it's filled with
Sort of like rubber chickens and
Whoopie cushions
It's a very silly flight, it's with silly airlines
Thank you for flying with silly air
um
wah
the life jackets are under your seat
and then they take one up and it's like a
like it does a fart and
and when the propellers start up they go
whacka whacka whacka whacka whack it whack it whack it whack it
yeah and if
the air stewards the stewards come
up and down the aisle with a trolley and they go nuts
and you go sure and they go they hand
it to you but they go you're nuts
like you're crazy
that's a fun joke for them
are you
returning Phil to
the historic town of Bath or are you returning further phil to the historic town of bath or are you are you returning further afield
to east asia i'm i'm going back to malaysia for the first time since covid i'm going to borneo
lovely um which i was about to say you know leaving this island for a smaller island but
of course borneo is a much bigger island it's the third largest island in the world is that right yeah because it goes
greenland oh um what's i think the biggest is greenland and second is is it new guinea or guinea
could be i can't remember now and then third is um third is borneo because you you see borneo on
a map but it's always next to the rest of Malaysia so it never looks that big.
Yeah.
It's also very close to Australia so it looks tiny.
That's a big island.
Borneo size.
I don't want to
fat shame Borneo.
It's
twice the size of Germany.
What the fuck
Is it really?
Good god
Three times bigger than the UK
You've got to start dropping that on stage
People will lose their nut
Do you think?
Yeah because I think when you say you're from Borneo
People are imagining like a desert island from a newspaper cartoon
With you and an orangutan on it
Yeah
I was right yes New Guinea is the second largest Damn desert island from a newspaper cartoon with you and an orangutan on it. Yeah.
I was right. Yes. New Guinea is the second largest. Damn.
And Borneo's got the bronze, baby.
And then there's Madagascar.
And then, it's an island called
Baffin.
The largest island in Canada.
Located in the northern
bit of Canada. And Sumatra
is sixth. I'm astonished, though, because, like...
Yeah, I'm absolutely astonished.
That's so big.
Yeah, Great Britain is only ninth biggest island in the world.
Top ten, baby?
Yeah, we made it.
We made it.
What do you...
Well, My two homes
Are both in the top 10
Largest islands in the world
Look at me
Island man
Phil what are you most looking forward to about
A very bonny Christmas
I'm looking forward to the food as always
And seeing my family I guess
Yawn.
But I haven't seen them since the before times.
The last time I saw them, there were no masks.
There were no vaccines.
And there was no lockdown culture.
This is what I'm interested to see is, you know,
what's different about it.
Because you know how after COVID COVID even the countries that have
gone back to normal everywhere still
has this subtle
like
COVID fingerprint right on everything
the leftovers
mask signs
the leftover keep your distance
stickers on the floor
and so
everywhere still has this sort of
dull din of covid still in the background and i've never i've not been to malaysia with that
in the background yes i've seen it like that well is it not i mean i would presume it's stricter
still uh they were stricter for longer
than we were but now I don't
think there are any rules now
I think they finally dropped the rules
but they did have them for a long time
are you going to fly in a mask?
oh I don't know
if there are
oh gosh that's a good question I don't know if it's a requirement
but would you choose to or would you just go
fuck it
fly in a mask?. I don't know if it's a requirement. But would you choose to, or would you just go, fuck it?
Fly in a mask?
No.
Yeah.
I saw a thing, you know, it's not, the air circulation in planes is actually pretty good.
So I don't think you're actually in particular danger.
And if the person next to you has it, I don't think a mask is going to help, really.
Yeah, that's true. You're on there for like 13 hours or whatever.
mask is going to help really. Yeah, that's true.
You're on there for like 13 hours or whatever.
Yeah, so it'll be, it's a long flight.
Not so looking forward to it.
It's sooner than I thought. It's on a Wednesday.
Yeah, man. When this comes out. I'm going to be in the sky for like
20 hours.
Yeah. When you guys are listening to this.
Today, when you hear this. Yeah, when you hear this.
Phil is in a tube of farts being
fired towards Asia.
Fart tube in the sky, carrying lots of gals and guys.
Pooping in the sky and farting too.
You're sharing a plane with food and poo.
It's true.
That's very nice.
It's true.
Beautiful Christmas
travelling song.
That could be the new driving home
for Christmas.
Pooping home for Christmas.
And I'll see those stinky
faces. But what are you going
to eat on a hot, jungly Christmas day?
Well, mum has always made a full, like, British Christmas dinner.
So she'll get a turkey.
We'll make snails, as I may have said before,
because of our French side, where we start with snails.
And turkey and bacon
and all the normal stuff,
but like made in hot, humid climate.
Oh, God.
It feels a bit mad, actually,
now we look back on it.
It'll feel fucking mad.
But that'll be on Christmas Day,
and mum will miraculously put that together
for 30 fucking people,
or however big my Malaysian family is.
And then the next day, we're having like a Chinese-style potluck, I could sleep with that together for 30 fucking people or however big my Malaysian family is.
And then the next day,
we're having like a Chinese-style potluck where all the aunties are bringing over
like trays of battered prawns and stir-fried veg
and rice and noodles.
Yeah.
But now...
Yeah.
Do your Malaysian family find the Christmas Day meal
to be mental as well?
Is it like an insane?
They're just like, what is this combination of things?
The first time mum made it for everyone, they were like, what the fuck is this?
And they just sort of pushed it around the tray.
Especially like the older generation were like, just sort of politely like, snails, is it?
Oh, with butter?
Okay.
And like trifle, they were were like what the fuck is it's uh what it's an egg and it's like an egg and a cake and it's wet it goes it goes back to your
wet wet wet yeah but what about the chicken and gravy and potatoes though
yeah they thought that was weird i think like having everything separated because asian food
is like rice and noodles and you put the protein and the sauce on top and it all becomes part of a
big sort of pot mess but to keep but like the whole thing about roses are they're all separate
right they're all yeah they all have their own territories on the plate and you the only meat
in your mouth um so i think that took a while to get used to but
especially because of my generation my cousins and stuff because they weren't as used to a
particular type of eating when we started they they got into it really enthusiastically and
they love the snails and they love the trifle and then then eventually the whole family really got into it.
But it was an uphill struggle for mum in those early years.
I'm sure.
Were your cousins being like a reversal of the stereotype in the West where they're like, oh my God, it's just like this authentic English food.
And there's like a special way you have to eat it, you know?
Yeah, so we go to this amazing supper club.
It's like this white lady
just in her house
yes yeah
yeah yeah yeah
and it's potatoes
that she's like
peeled herself
you know
yeah
yeah so like
it's a
yeah so
I mean in the same way
that sort of
Asian food
has become less alien here yeah that way that Asian food has become
less alien here
that kind of western food has become less alien
there over time
yeah I think you can track it
on a graph as my
personal excitement
when I see a Wagamama
yes
it's on the floor now
it doesn't even register
I mean it's amazing we've got to the floor now it doesn't even register yeah it really is i mean it's
amazing we've got to a point now in british culture where british people white british
people who've only ever lived in the uk go i don't really like wagamamas it's not it's not
very authentic it's not very good yeah and like we've got to that we've got to that point in what
10 years or something it's it's quite extraordinary if that i mean when i see a wagon mama's now it's like seeing a tk max same feeling yeah oh there's a bunch of stuff in there that's probably not very
good it'll do the job but uh yeah if i feel like a missed opportunity afterwards yeah i'm not
rushing in like uh the kid from home alone when he's in New York or something.
I'm not delighted.
Have you seen those posts?
I think they're Instagram posts by Jack Grealish,
the English super substitute.
He's a huge Home Alone fan
and he's been going around New York
because England's been kicked out of the World Cup.
He's gone on holiday to New York
and he's just taking photos of places
that were featured in Home Alone 2
and he's so excited
Yeah, I saw that
It's sort of the childlike delight
I mean, how old is he?
Because with the footballers
they're either sort of 18
or surprisingly old
it seems
Yeah, yeah
Oh, they're like 39
and they look 86 or something.
Yeah, they've run all their youth out of their body somehow.
Jack Grealish, I mean, he looks like a little boy.
He's got that Keira Knightley headband.
Oh, yeah.
Because he's only ever brought on as a substitute late in the game
to sort of inject a little energy.
Yeah.
It's like someone's given his son a little go
come on guys
did you watch the final last night shame shamefully i did shamefully i did you did
there you go there you go isn't it is i hate to say a spectacular game it was so fun it was very it was like a game uh written by the
game of thrones people yeah i mean it was france were basically absent for the first what 60 minutes
and argentina was just two nil up yeah they were just walking away with it and then france got two
goals in like a minute and a half of each other. Yeah, I mean, for the first chunk,
like you say, France was smoking.
They were making little croissants.
They were protesting, burning tractors and stuff.
And then, yeah, they showed up.
And then they showed up.
And yeah, they showed up hard.
It was so exciting.
Fucking hell.
But I'm glad Argentina won. Spoil won spoilers i'm glad argentina won are you
yeah i am because it's nice because it's little little messy's last world cup that's true and
compassionate to win yeah although they were diving man they were diving they made france
look like england they played so England. They did. They did.
Oh, they did.
I don't know.
I was sort of like, well, the French are annoying, but Messi's old.
But France didn't invade us recently.
But the Argentinians didn't knock us out.
That was my thinking.
Right.
But what about the Falklands?
How does that factor in?
That's what I mean.
That's what I said. France hasn't invaded us recently, but Argentina has. Soalklands? How does that factor in? That's what I mean. That's what I said.
France hasn't invaded us recently, but Argentina has.
Right, okay, I see.
And their football fans are a bunch of lunatic fascists often as well.
Which ones?
Argentina.
Is it?
Yeah, they had a lot of ultra-football hooligan gangs that were used as paramilitaries.
It was a fascist country
for a long time, Argentina. There's a reason they have so many
German surnames.
German surnames and, I found this out,
Scottish surnames because
a lot of Scots went over and one of
the players for Argentina
is called McAllister. It's so weird.
And he's brilliant.
And he looks Scottish.
He looks really Scottish. A lot of the... And he's brilliant. Yeah. And he looks Scottish. He looks really Scottish.
A lot of the South American states had very pivotal Scottish or Irish
sort of people in the independence movements and stuff
or in big landowners.
So you'll find this guy who looks like
the most South American guy ever
with a sort of fantastic mustache
and he owns a cattle ranch
and he's called like
Jose Rodriguez de Cabera de Mc ranch, and he's called like,
Jose Rodriguez de Caber de McEwen.
And you're like, what?
What the hell?
Yeah.
I generally did a double take when he said,
McAllister.
What?
What do you think, Phil, of Twitter, especially African Twitter,
sometimes likes to refer to the French team as an African team?
Yeah, well, I mean, it is striking.
Not just that how many players in the French team are black,
but how many have African surnames.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, it's a very,
very black team. Well, it's difficult, isn't it? Because, say, Mbappé was born
and raised in Paris.
And the idea of calling
a bunch of black people who were born
and raised in a European country Africans
is normally the preserve of white racists.
Right, yeah.
So it's a bit... I found it slightly
jarring to see a bunch of africans
being like no they want an alice and you go oh you guys wouldn't like to meet the westerners
who agree with you so yeah right so africans on african twitter they're sort of trying to claim
french success as sort of partly their success because of how many yes yeah well they're sort
of tongue-in-cheek saying like oh like when morocco or whatever gets knocked out just
they're tweeting a picture of the french team being like oh there's still one african team in
play right which you know it's funny i think if it's off tongue and it's quite funny it's
yeah it's sort of tongue and it's funny but it's the sort of thing that you could also like very
easily find on nick griffin's twitter it's true isn't it yeah that is funny so you go oh well
is it oh it's so the context is like i've
never seen context be more vital for a sentiment i it is yeah the context is different and also the
the intention is different because when when a nick griffin figure says something like that
the the insinuation is the french team is african and they should so they shouldn't be there yeah and he wants to
create shame yeah whereas the african the africans are on board are like oh look at how well these
african this african these african descent players in france are doing oh yes i mean the
insinuation is different isn't it yeah it's um but yeah like you say this yeah it is striking i mean i yeah maybe that i
don't know i found myself 51 kind of rooting for france just because i find i don't know i always
found argentina quite an annoying country for no reason i love their beef though yeah all the all
the diving is bad i mean you can when if whenever an argentinian player got like clipped gently
you could hear the scream like through the tv yeah i don't even know what mic what mic is even
picking that up the screen mic but you can hear the yeah they've all got lapel mics
like they're being interviewed but i mean it got to the point where argentina was they were they
were falling over so much they ended up like messing up their own runs because like someone would get
slightly clipped and scream and fall to the ground.
When me and Messi would pick up the ball and start an amazing run.
But then because the last guy had screamed so much,
the referee blew the whistle and stopped,
stopped the play.
And so they ended up like almost damaging their own chances.
That's what I,
that's what I don't like about football is that there's a game within a game that tends
to be more effective than football.
But I
used to really hate it, but
now I kind of appreciate it for what it is, because
it's kind of like poker, right?
It's the bluffing element of
football, is the diving, and the trying
to get fouled. And, you know, there's
almost an art to it. Like, the first
penalty that Argentina got,
the commentators were saying,
it was Di Maria who was taken down by, I think, Dembele,
and the commentary team was saying it was a really soft challenge.
He didn't really do enough to bring him down,
but it was right that Dembele got punished for being so silly in that context because you
know that you're doing something slight will probably get you a penalty yeah and so like
there's you like you say this is game within a game but now i kind of appreciate that now i kind
of like enjoy it as as the psychological layer of football. Yeah, I guess so.
But I would be more in favor of it
if they all admitted that's what's going on
as opposed to like really with a straight face
being like, no, very dangerous.
Wow, very dangerous, guys.
And it's like, well...
But the commentators don't.
The commentators don't pretend.
The commentators go, oh, come on.
At one point, one actually went, oh, come on.
Which is quite good.
But then I think that's what I disliked
I kind of disliked that as well
Because that's also dishonest because they're going
Oh come on as if it's not an incredibly key part of the game
They should be going
Good on you what a cheeky little idiot
That's more honest
You know
Very funny throughout the whole match
Ali McCoy
Only ever referred to Lionel Messi as the Wii man.
Did you hear that?
No, what?
You got brilliant stuff from the Wii fella there the whole way through.
He only ever referred to him as the Wii fella.
Is he Wii?
I think he's 5'6", 5'7", I think.
Really?
Lionel Messi.
He is really short, yeah.
Lionel Messi? Yeah, really short, yeah. Lionel Messi?
Yeah, his nickname is The Little Genius.
That's a terrible nickname.
You don't want that.
You don't want to be late for dinner and someone goes,
Will The Little Genius be joining us?
Fucking hell, that's an awful nickname
5'7 apparently
5'7
Gosh, yeah
He's small, but it's also why he's called the little
Is he Little Maradona?
Or the New Maradona?
Because Maradona was small too
Was he?
The wee men
They're both these very short, very stable
Men, very hard to push
over because they're centre of gravity, Solo.
Oh, that makes sense.
Yes.
Little, like, there's
wibbly-wobbly things. You punch them and they just
come back up again.
Oh.
Wow. Okay. I've just
clicked on... I'm already in a wiki hole
thanks to Messi, he used to play for
a sports club called Club Atletico
Newell's Old Boys
Newell's Old Boys
Yes, it was founded in 1903
and is named after Isaac Newell
from Kent, one of the pioneers
of Argentine football
No way! That's so weird
Old boys
Actually calling them old boys
Newell's old boys
Muy bueno
Gosh, incredible
Man oh man
South America's weird, man
Also, the British Empire is so expansive
Even in the places you don't associate with it
Oh, it turns out there's this whole
British legacy.
Yeah just sending
people around the world
to start football clubs for the boys.
The old boys.
The old boys.
It got to the point where you could go to the
top of the most remote monastery in Tibet
and there'd be someone there called, like,
William Cartwright's fucking Butterfly Collection Club.
And you go, what really?
Even here?
And they go, yeah, even here.
So what do you think, Pierre?
Has Qatar's sports washing campaign worked?
I think it's made it harder for us to criticise anything they do, and that's pretty good, isn't it, for them?
Do you think?
Because any time anyone from any of the competing countries says,
could you kill fewer slaves, please?
They'll just go, you weren't saying that when you were drinking martinis in the guest box,
and we'll all have to go, no.
weren't saying that when you were drinking martinis in the in the in the guest box and we'll all have to go no but have have has the west made enough of a noise during and before
the world cup to say no we condemned it then and we condemn it now no because they haven't done it
officially in any serious way because that would have endangered the tournament so they've they
i think katars katars played a blinder to be fair, at the end of the day.
It's brilliant play from Qatar.
Qatar forced a nil-nil draw in a way or whatever
where it gets you more points than,
as many points as if you won at home,
however that fucking thing works. Yeah. In think they so they haven't like nailed it but they've
definitely won out of it they've definitely done well because yeah they've just completely tied
everyone into their to their bullshit yeah not that we not not that we had any fucking ability
to stop them from really doing anything before anyway,
apart from just stopping buying oil and gas from them, which we won't do,
because we don't want to buy it from Russia, so they've smashed it.
Unless, Pierre, and this is very pertinent news for the pro-nuclear podcast,
have you seen the nuclear fusion
breakthroughs in the last week?
I have. One big breakthrough.
Yet more breakthroughs.
Yes.
Also I got a message from a pod bud
Pierre who works
in nuclear fusion research. No.
And has
invited us to come and have a look.
Oh yes please. Oh my god.
We could touch the plasma. Yes. and has invited us to come and have a look. Oh, yes, please. Oh, my God.
We could touch the plasma.
Yes.
Put our fingers in it.
Get superpowers.
But, yes, very exciting.
For the first time, in case you don't know,
for the first time,
the nuclear fusion, I don't know, process has released more energy
than it has required to get going
not to get going not very much
sorry well because they had to put loads of energy into the lasers
yeah the lasers so yeah you get nuclear fusion to fuse by just pointing like hundreds of lasers
at this small pellet of is it what is it tr it, tritium or something? I don't know.
And for the first time, the amount of energy that's come out afterwards
has been more than the amount of energy they use on the lasers.
Enough to boil a kettle, apparently.
Something like that.
Although I think the amount of energy that the whole experiment required
was still more than they got out.
Really?
Yeah, well, just because of the amount of energy
it takes to make the lasers happen.
Or something.
There's some step to it where we're still...
It's that joke about fusion where...
I guess when you scale up.
We're always 30 years away.
Haha, there's the old joke about fusion.
But the commentators I've
heard are saying like, maybe
even 10, 20 years from now.
Ah, hopefully. I mean, it would be fucking
sick. You could just do anything you wanted.
It would change everything. Yeah, it would just change
everything. It'd be extraordinary.
But I mean, yeah, but then, you know, for
the plants to come on board
would actually take a long time, wouldn't it?
Yeah, and it'll be like running the first
coal fired plant, it'll be like the least efficient
clunky fucking
yeah
but it's good news anyway
it's good news
actually
we need to go on this fusion field trip
yes
the boys go to to fusionville yeah the boys turn we can
finally become dr manhattan yes yes yes we reference all the time on here pierre and phil
were ordinary podcasting young men until they were bitten by a radioactive yeah we'll get these hours nuclear podcasters yeah great sick um um speaking of podcasters in this sense the podcast
listeners we should read some correspondence christmas correspondence
who's the last one it's lovely weather to send me a story about poo.
Ring letters.
Keep the coolest emails.
Phone calligraphies.
Tweet decking.
Your sister will manage to get five.
Make fun of ring letters.
Correspondence.
Tom gets in touch
Tom
I've gone through a lot of Tom rhymes
Yeah
You're the Don
Tom
The title of the email is
My Big Fat Uncle
My Big Fat Okay great title of the email is my big fat uncle my big fat okay great
yeah
that's funny my big fat uncle
me and my big fat uncle
so he says dearest poop pants
and Pierre
so you're poop pants
he says I recently listened to episode 140 So you're pooping.
He says,
Oh, yeah.
Gosh, I remember that.
And he says, And it reminded me of a story about my big fat uncle.
I hope, is he capitalizing big fat uncle
In the subject line he is
But to be fair not in the prose
Okay okay
I wish he was though
Tom continues
My uncle was a big fat boy when I was younger
Yeah
He says by way of explanation
Yeah
One day at his job on a construction site,
he had to climb up a long, tall ladder,
and essentially, he slipped and fell.
Oof.
Oh, no.
Big fat fall.
He fell onto the roof of the building
that was under the ladder on his back,
and he smashed through it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Presumably leaving a big round hole behind him, he says.
Yeah, like a bug's bunny or something
Yeah
He then fell some more and landed on his back on the ground
I like explaining going through a roof as then falling some more
Yeah, well he fell, and then he fell some more
He put a hole in the ceiling, and then he fell some more yeah his body was in a pure
physics sense briefly halted but it still contained enough uh momentum as a as a sort of piece of mass
that then it fell some more it didn't he didn't stop falling once he pushed up once he went through
the ceiling he fell some more he fell some more. He fell some more.
Tom says, I don't know how high up he was,
but he was high enough to gain the velocity needed to smash through a roof and then fall from a roof.
So it must have been fairly high.
Yeah.
Anyway, he fell on his back and he broke one,
capitalized one vertebrae and survived.
If it's one, is it a vertebra?
It's a vertebra.
A vertebronus.
Vertebron. It's a vertebron, I think.
Vertebron. He broke a single vertebron
and survived.
The doctor at the hospital later told him
the shock of the fall was absorbed by his
big old mass, and that had he not
been so large, he would definitely have
died.
But if he'd been so large, he would definitely have died. But if he'd been less large,
he would have...
His velocity would have been the same,
but his momentum would have been less.
Because momentum is mass times
velocity, and velocity is the same, no matter
how big your mass is, because gravity,
the acceleration is the same.
But his momentum would, so the impact
would have been less
if he'd been smaller. So I don't think that's
necessarily true. If he was lighter,
he would have hit it with less energy.
That's true,
but I guess it depends on if he was lighter
around the back fat area.
What you don't want is to remove
the key kilograms of fat around the back
But there's no fat directly over the spine, is there?
Even a very fat person, the fat builds around the spine
I don't know
I don't know
There's still some cushioning, isn't there?
When someone's really fat, there's fat over that spine, baby
That's true, that's true
Cut to 15 years later and he's just lost a thumb to diabetes bloody hell so being a big
uncle oh big fat uncle so tom says so being a big boy isn't all sunshine and roses okay thank you
tom no gosh okay that's the end of the story right fair enough man I didn't know you could lose a thumb to diabetes
I thought diabetes was more of a foot thing
I guess it's just extremities, isn't it?
Extremities, yeah
But yeah, thumb is rare
I've never heard of thumb before
Sweet thumb
He's got a case of sweet thumb
Yeah, got to be the old sweet thumb there
In Malay
diabetes I may have told you this before
diabetes is
sorry someone else was trying to call you
oh really
gunching manis
which literally means
sweet piss
I remember that
that's Malay for
diabetes
could you say it as a swear word
no
there's no such thing
there isn't a sort of sweet
precursor in Malay
exasperations
sweet piss I guess because the sweet thing comes from religious language in English aspirations um okay so you can't
I guess because the sweet thing comes from religious
language in English
oh is it yeah well sweet
Jesus you know because he's sweet and kind
sweet Mary is it
is it oh
right
um so that makes sense
that it wouldn't have it
um sweet piss yeah that's good um so that makes sense that it wouldn't have it sweet
pass yeah that's good
we have an email
by the way these emails are for Christmas time
but a year ago so
they're really appropriate but don't
think we're up to date listeners
because we're not
it's from our old friend Dev I don't think we're up to date, listeners, because we're not.
It's from our old friend Dev.
Dev.
Grab a Bev this Christmas.
Drink a Bev.
Drink a Bev.
Subject line, Wangan's Den.
Oh, okay.
Is Dev about to pitch a business idea to me?
Kind of.
So he says, hey, Pee and Poo.
The other day I spotted Phil at a train station.
Ah.
So a year ago, Dev saw me at a train station.
I would have gone over to say Koji or say something about fucking a dog,
but he seemed to be enjoying himself with a lady friend,
and I thought it would be rude to disturb.
Ah, thank you, thank you. Yeah.
He makes it sound like you were shagging someone on the platform.
What is he saying?
Having fun with a lady friend?
Enjoying himself with a lady friend.
Enjoying himself.
Sounds very much like I'm wanking on a train platform, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah. He's enjoying himself sounds very much like I'm wanking on a train platform to be honest he's enjoying himself
it would be rude to interrupt by saying I fucked a dog
to this man's face
he says
and also despair filled the potential embarrassment of explaining
the dog thing
yes that's fair
good caution
the next day I saw Dragon's Den host
Evan Davis walking his dog
Next to the same train station
A whippet and a rather fetching jumper
Oh
He would have a whippet and a jumper
Yeah
So he says
My question is
Which Bud Pod thing do you think would be the biggest success on Dragon's Den?
Lucky Kentucky
Raw chicken boxing gloves
A bag to carry shit around
Or something else
That's a good That's a very good question Yeah Well we've come up with good Lucky Kentucky, raw chicken boxing gloves, a bag to carry shit around, or something else?
That's a good... That's a very good question.
Yeah.
Well, we've come up with good movie ideas.
Yes.
But you wouldn't pitch that on Dragon's Den.
Yeah, which is strange, actually,
because they could invest in films, couldn't they?
I guess so, although it might be too expensive.
Yeah, that's true.
Anyway, but... Well, I mean, a while ago we came up with,
remember the tit-dip vodka?
Yes.
Or like alcohol which has had like boobs in them.
Yes, and all the tits are in a sluice.
Yeah.
And the vodka just is channeled through them.
And I think if you could come up with like a range of
Celebrity
Tit and dick
Dipped liquors
I think they would find
And it would be expensive of course
But I think they would find a captive audience
Yes like
Some Cointreau that's been
Poured over Tom Cruise's buttocks
Yeah something like that
I think that would
That would be a good one to pitch to the dragons
Yeah
Celebrity body booze
Celebrity body booze
Body booze
What else would you call it
You could call it celebrity juice
That'd be quite fun
Yes yes yes
Celebrity juice
Yeah
Oh you could call it sluice
Like spelt like sluice
But you pronounce it juice
Or sluice juice
Yeah sluice juice
Yes we got John Travolta to lie down in a sluice juice yeah sluice juice yes we got John Travolta to lie down in a sluice
and have all this creme de menthe poured over him
yeah I mean
it's basically cameo isn't it
I think celebs who have agreed to do cameo
they do sluice juice
because it doesn't take up that much of their time really
and they'll get a lot of money for it
Newcastle brown ale that's gone over Nigel Farage's foot Because it doesn't take up that much of their time, really. No. And they'll get a lot of money for it.
Newcastle brown ale that's gone over Nigel Farage's foot.
It wasn't brown when we poured it on him, but it's brown now.
It comes with one of his cameos.
Drink a pint of freedom beer.
It's had my foot in it.
With his big Muppet mouth. He's got a very Muppety mouth. He With his big Muppet mouth.
He's got a very Muppety mouth.
He does have a Muppety mouth.
There's a flappy Muppetiness to it.
He does have an unnerving, flappy mouth.
Freedom flap.
That's what he calls it.
His own mouth. It's to blow all those dog whistles out of Pierre.
Very nice.
Thank you.
Dev says, yeah, wishing you both a merry shitmas and a crappy poo smear.
It's good stuff.
It's the most wonderful time of the smear.
Yeah.
And we have a message from david david um uh david craved some turkey and sprouts
oh okay okay okay i crave it i crave it
I crave it
some turkey
I'm trying to make it Christmasy
okay yeah yeah
so
this is actually strange as well
because this is
relevant even a year later
it's quite spooky
Dear Phil Wankle Engine
and the Phantom Pier
the Phantom Pier
yeah
Wankle Engine I don't Wankle Engine I don't get it Wankle Engine
I don't get it
Wankle Engine
I'll have to figure that out
David says
I've recently become an avid listener and I'm working my way
through your back catalogue. Doctors do not recommend
Love your work
Praise redacted
David says am I your only Luxembourg listener
Oh
Well I was in Luxembourg
Recently maybe it was David who
Cogied
Oh shit it could have been
Because someone coged me at the end of my set
Maybe it was David
He says are there other castle dwellers in your legion
well maybe maybe maybe um and then david starts the next paragraph by saying now to the meat
now that's very funny i like that that's that's when i say when dinner's
ready to bring people in from the from the lounge that's what I say that's what I say when I'm about to
have sex
or as I go to the loo
now to the meat
now to the meat
call it literal confirmation bias I don't know
but imagine my surprise when given a sandwich
on a KLM flight listening to the pod.
The flight was to Russia, but that's no longer allowed, David.
Oh.
It probably is allowed, but still.
Yeah, it does date it.
So he's given a sandwich on this Dutch flight, right?
Mm-hmm.
So he says, given that the Dutch speak impeccable English,
I can only assume they made some tiny grammar mistakes
So we're going to open the image now, Phil
Hang on, let's have a look
And this is on the sandwich packaging, is it?
Yeah, so this is on the packaging
So I'm just going to read it, Phil
And see if you can tell the tiny grammar mistakes
Like if I'll notice them? Yeah Okay and see if you can tell the tiny grammar mistakes.
Like if I'll notice them?
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's written in cursive,
which might be the source of the errors.
Okay, I'll admit that.
The cursive really doesn't help.
Okay.
Handcrafted sandwich.
Huh? Yeah, go on. I don't know why people bother with cursive
yeah it's very strange it's very strange handcrafted sandwich vegetarian selection
homemade sandwiches are a typical dutch tradition i think that's a bit of a joke isn't it
sandwiches oh where are we amsterdam oh homemade sandwiches as opposed to a robot in space making them.
The Dutch are really stretching to have a cuisine.
Fuck's sake.
They just don't, yeah.
I mean, the food is literally named after an English earl.
I don't think it's Dutch.
Yeah.
Homemade sandwiches are a typical Dutch tradition.
Jaking one with you to Wangkon on a trip.
What?
Jaking one with you to wank on.
Yes.
Is that the grammatical error?
I have a feeling if I'm meant to spot the grammatical error, is that it?
Yeah, so David is being tongue-in-cheek and says um given that the dutch speak impeccable english i can only assume they made some tiny grammar mistakes i believe it should read
jaking one with you to wank on on a trip he says i can't stop reading it and i assume it's an
onanistic cry from him cry for help from the. Keep jaking one with you and wank on on a
trip, David.
So what's happened, Phil,
is that the cursive has meant that they've
mistaken... I think it is mistyped
though, because the capital T is correct
in some other places.
So it should be taking one with you to
work or on a trip.
Oh, okay,
okay. But the cursive
J and T and N
and R are so similar that it
does just say, jaking one with you to wank on
on a trip.
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
I do like to take
a traditional Dutch sandwich with me just to
wank on. The bread
sucks up all that jizz there. Yeah. There with me just to wank on. The bread soaks up all that jizz there.
Yeah.
There's nothing better to wank on on a trip.
There's nothing more Dutch
than jaking a sandwich with you
to wank on on a trip.
Traditional Dutch snack of sandwiches.
God, yeah.
Well, that's all the time.
We've jaken up enough of your time, listeners.
It's time to wank on over to...
I mean, we could wank on and on, but we must jake off.
We must go to the VIP area to jake off.
Yeah.
Now, you might not hear from us until 2023, because we're on...
We're taking a New Year's break.
Yeah, we're taking a Chris Tingle Mingle break
and we're off to our
respective islands.
But we'll see you in the New Year.
If you're a Patreon, you will
of course have
this Friday's bonus pod
to listen to.
And a correspondent special coming up.
Yes.
But if you're not a Patreon,
become one.
Maybe get someone a Patreon membership
for Christmas. The perfect Christmas gift.
And we'll see you in the new year. Have a
lovely Christmas time
with the family
eating and
drinking or not
and a good new year
to you and yours
good new year
bye merry christmas
bye