BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 204 - What If She's A Laugh?
Episode Date: March 8, 2023What if she’s a laugh? Phil getting caned, unhealthy snacks vs Pierre's loathed British drywors/droewors, home is where your toilet is/tat from Danica, sketch is marjorie’s bollard job, matthew’...s posh poo boys Get bonus BudPod on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's Bud Pod 204.
204, I can't take it anymore.
I'm just, I'm quite tired today.
Yeah.
Because it's been a big weekend for me.
I was at the O2 this weekend.
I did my first arena gig.
You did double O2.
I did, I doubled O2.
That's crazy The JFL Just for Laughs festival was in London for the first time
Proper
Just for Laughs
That's all they're here for
Just Laughs, nothing else
No
Pathos
Or Bathos
Our joke's all technically Bathos Because Bathos or baith like our jokes all technically bathos because bathos is of a build-up
of pathos and then you you betray it yeah you pop it oh maybe you're right i mean i almost called
the show bathos because all jokes are bathos that's interesting that'd be funny a guy going
right it's all bathos people if i see any path any pathos, I'm going to lose my fucking rag.
If I started a comedy festival, I'd call it Bathos Festival.
Bathos.
Bathos.
Jeff Bathos.
He's the funniest.
That's his stage name.
Jeff Bathos.
Bathos.
That's how you say it in Spanish.
Is the Spanish name Bathos?
No, no.
Like you lisp.
Oh, Bathos.
Of course.
Bathos.
So on the Friday night was a big gala hosted by graham norton yes spangly jacket spangly jacket himself yeah graham norton
and he had a couple of drag queens on danny beard and bianca del rio i think the name is sure
um i mean it's blind leading the blind yeah yeah yeah like i was about to go
ah bianca dario doesn't work in the following months no i've got no idea katherine ryan joel
jade adams um and sam rider off of off of eurovision did two songs oh the man with the
biggest mouth in england he can get his mouth big. When he sings, he goes,
wah, like that.
Really?
Wah!
Like Freddie Mercury.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, big time.
Giant mouth.
I mean, he's a very good singer,
but I think he's so good at singing because he opens his mouth big enough
for all the notes to come out.
Yeah.
All the notes come out.
They come out without bumps on them
from your teeth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just pure, just,
bah, just a pure beam full letter
it's like a
hame hame ha
or something
it's like
it's like a beam
shooting out of his mouth
space
mouth
is more like
just like a
tuber
opening
yeah
it really is
a circle of sound
people like to
talk about the voice
as their instrument
but for him
it really is
Like a French horn
I met him backstage
Very chill, very kind of hippie guy
Hey man, here you go
Shorter than I thought
He's about
Up to my chin maybe
Oh really?
That is short
Long hair
But sweet guy He was about up to my chin, maybe. Oh, really? Yeah. That is short. Long hair.
But sweet guy.
But it was 7,000 people.
Most people I've ever performed to.
What was that like? I mean, the most I've ever done would be Sheffield Town Hall supporting Frank.
And that would have been 2,800.
Oh, yeah.
2,800.
Wow.
That's a big boy. But that was a bit like00. Oh, yeah. Wow, that's a big boy.
But that was a bit like gigging to the sea.
Yes, it is like gigging to the sea.
That's exactly it.
Yeah.
I could pick out the faces in the first five rows, maybe,
but then you can just sort of see the shadows
all the way to the back
because of the adverts around the perimeter of the arena, you get just enough light to see the shape all the way to the back because because of the adverts around the perimeter of
the arena you get just enough light to see the shape of the crowd right but they're like dark
figures so it's like the the audience in like um one of those old pixel boxing games yeah well
it's more like these sort of outlines of heads well they look like spirits like ghosts it it was kind of ominous have you seen the new it
no well when he opens his mouth you look into it and you see all the souls he's eaten and it's
like transfixing you can't look away even though it's horrible and it wasn't horrible but it was
like looking into kind of hades and all these souls oh cool but but i think the human mind can't really like
even compute that number of people so it felt i felt like i was performing to maybe 500 people
yeah and was that say they're that thing where you do the joke you know and it was my bum
yeah whatever and it goes like yeah it's like the main thing was you have to give each joke
a lot more time because the laugh
has to go all the way to the back and then come back to you
yeah
yeah because everyone
laughs out of step with each other anyway
but with that many people it's just
like every sort of version
of laugh is there so you just kind of have to wait for it all
to ebb and then you go again
but it was nice it was there. So you just kind of have to wait for it all to ebb and then you go again.
But it was nice.
It was fun.
And I got to kind of,
I've never done that before.
Did you move around a lot?
I always feel like when I'm on a big stage,
I always think,
I don't really move.
I don't need this.
I would rather be on like a pillar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I became quite stationary.
But when I started doing stand-up as a know as a teenager i was bound about stage and yeah now and then i became very very static and now i'm trying to
be more mobile again yeah it's it's the thing with some gigs small gigs like stuff the stage
i'm thinking of here is maybe like something like ruby blue in London. In London. If you move, it's distracting.
I think it's worse.
Yeah.
But if it's big,
I think people switch off
if you're not near to their bit.
Or at the very least,
if you go near to their bit,
they go, whoa!
Yeah, you have to engage everyone.
This guy's over here now.
Just give them a reason not to clock off.
Just make eye contact with each section.
Yeah.
Kylie Minogue style.
Yeah.
But it was like gigging to the sea
you're right yeah but but the sea that enjoyed it you know i did well laughing sea yeah laughing sea
bunch of laughing seas in that crowd um yeah so that was really interesting and then last night
sunday the wrestling was on max in a van um comedians come wrestlers
uh they've done it before they organized it at the fringe it's like a big novelty show where a
bunch of clowns put on leotards and and wrestle each other with also some professionals in there
yeah and i was in the big eight-way championship match at the end oh nice and i went through a
table i just showed pi video of me going
through a table off off the ring it's so sick it's great it felt wonderful what what did you
quickly clear off the table there were props from abby clark's character the ringfluencer and she
so her character is that um she has a paid partnership with this energy drink
is it just cups and stuff no it's cans oh shit like basically red bull cans right
and they were meant to clear them and but stuff gets messed up on the night and people forget
things yeah and i looked down and i knew how to go through the table so i had to make up a reason
and so i just said um there should be no product placement at the wrestling and i i knocked it all
away then i got on the turnbuckle and then went through the table nice but we hadn't practiced the table at all
they just kept
during training
Max and Evan
just kept saying
and then you go
through the table
and you stretch it off
and I was just like
can we try this
at some point
I mean
we only have one table
on the day
well literally
they only had one table
and on the day
it turned up
and they showed me
the table
and said
where do you want it
and I was like
oh god
and I just kept like getting up on the ring and I couldn't and they showed me the table, and said, where do you want it? I was like, oh, God.
And I just kept getting up on the ring,
and I couldn't practice.
I just had to keep getting up,
so imagine falling through it,
imagining going through it.
And all the pros there were going,
it's fine, it's great.
I mean, I've never gone through a table before,
but you'll be absolutely fine.
I'm like, what?
So the two of the pros there had never gone through a table.
So you were doing something
that even they hadn't quite reached yet.
In a sense, yeah.
But weirdly, the referee for the night, a really nice guy called Oscar,
he had gone through the table as a referee in a match.
Oh, of course, because he's like a character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like in one match, one of the wrestlers accidentally knocks the referee into the table into the table sure sure so he was showing me a video of him going through a table
and when i went through it it was so nice it was like the comfiest thing ever it was like going
someone someone said it was like going through a ball pit i was like yeah that's exactly what
it's like going into a big ball pit really yeah because they also said they put like a bunch of
abby's uh's cardboard boxes underneath.
Because it was meant to be her merch stand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so that kind of cushioned it too.
Oh, cool.
And it gives such great noise.
This real crunchy kind of noise.
Yes.
And people are like, oh, wow.
Even as a kid watching the wrestling, I remember thinking,
looking at the referee going, what is this for him?
Yeah.
There aren't seemingly any rules. And the infractions are never accompanied by any, you know.
Well, the ref is always checking up on people.
That's what they're doing, really.
Yeah, it's like a hidden medic, it seems like.
Yeah, hidden medic.
It's a kind of director as well.
Oh, yeah, yeah. yeah um but it was so much
fun and and then i came back heroically and i won so i did you i'm current the wrestling champion
yeah oh i didn't know this yeah yeah i i sort of looked on social media and people were saying
saying some photos and stuff but there wasn't a lot of detail oh wow well congratulations thank you very much i do need to post about it i'm just so tired
yeah do you have pictures with the belt and everything yeah oh yeah you got it yeah come on
come on yeah you've got a big belt isn't that every boy's dream yeah it was pretty great to
as someone who's obsessed with wrestling in in my teenage years. Yeah, we got a tweet from someone, I think,
who said that their school was the same as mine,
where it was all like the rough kids who liked the wrestling.
The frightening boys.
That's so strange.
Yeah.
As opposed to the nerds.
Yeah, I think in my school it was more nerdy in Malaysia.
I got recognized in a pub
Oh yeah
By a pod bud
Who saw me
It must have been like
Seeing Bob Dylan tuning a guitar
In the wild
They saw me looking for the toilet
I was at a 30th birthday
and it was in the sort of front zone of the pub.
And then you go through a door
and there's a sort of back zone
in which there was another 30th.
Wow, okay.
Yeah, and this pod bud was at that one.
Oh, right.
To access the loos,
you had to walk through
what I began to think of in my head
as the rival birthday.
Oh, but they got the loo room.
They got the loo room. They got the loo room.
It's true room.
Would you prefer the non-loo room or the loo room?
Because if you have the loo room,
you have easy access to the toilet.
Frequent interlopers.
I think I'd want the non-loo room.
I think you're right.
We were by the door,
so we did sort of have interlopers anyway.
But loo interlopers it's different yeah
yeah it's that it's difficult in a pub isn't it where you're in a room where you sort of feel
like you have the expectation of privacy but you haven't actually rented a room you've just got a
table that's the only table in a room right and you get to constantly have i don't know if you
have this but i constantly have the little spikes of anxiety of who's that person why are they at
the birthday as in are they meant to be
yeah yeah yeah i don't like do they think this is a normal is this normal no this is for no i don't
like it yeah i don't like it but yeah um a little name on on a small chalkboard yeah place on the
table that kind of thing yeah look at it look 6 30 p.m read it go away. Look, 6.30 to 9.30pm. Why won't you leave us alone?
In peace.
Harvesting and drinking.
Yeah, but they saw me looking for the bogs.
And we had a lovely chat.
And they saw your late Netflix record.
And they and their friends are in a lot of the shots.
You made it sound like my next Netflix record died.
Your late Netflix record.
God rest its soul, of course.
So that was very thrilling.
Because it feels like the sort of thing that happens to people more of a Joe Lysett level.
Okay.
Being recognized.
Being recognized in a pub.
Right.
Feels a bit different.
Right, yeah.
It feels like, oh, can't even go for a quiet drink.
Did you like it?
Of course I did.
Of course I did.
Great pleasure.
A great pleasure.
Is that your first time being recognized in a pub?
Ooh.
Maybe in a pub that isn't...
Outside of the fringe.
Yeah, that isn't a pub that has a gig in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe it is, actually.
Although, I don't know if I mentioned this on the pod before,
but myself and my partner and some friends
were sort of drunkenly hiking up the road nearby a while back.
And a cool guy with a mustache
smoking a rolled up cigarette
outside a theater pub
just shouted Koji at us.
Oh, sick.
And I was like, that's cool.
That's great.
But it was like 3 a.m.
So I was like, no!
Back at him.
I was like, what?
Thumbs up.
Yeah, I wasn't cool about it.
But that was cool
and it's hard to explain
Koji when it's
shout out
shout out
yeah
that's good
yeah
yeah so very nice
it's
what
here's a question
what is the backstage
like at the O2
is it
a warren
of rooms
lot of
yes
lots of long lot of rooms long hallways and a lot of dressing rooms.
And lots of framed T-shirts from acts that have played there before.
Like Britney Spears signed T-shirts.
Memorabilia.
Backstreet Boys.
JLS.
And a wall of keys.
Each one with the name of an act who's played 21 shows at the O2.
Keys?
Yeah, I guess it's kind of like Key to the City,
maybe Key to the O2.
It's like Prince.
Very quest-like.
But Mickey Flanagan is one of them.
Yeah, that guy.
He did 21 nights at the O2?
I had no idea.
That fucking guy lives at the O2.
Is he still doing shows?
Yeah, I think he's still doing shows at the O2. I was astonished. That fucking guy lives at the O2. Is he still doing shows? Yeah, I think he's still doing shows at the O2.
I was astonished. He seems to just do so
many. Yeah.
Mickey Flanagan seems to do
nothing and then do
a show at the O2. I know, yeah. He's one of those guys.
He's like a groundhog.
If Mickey Flanagan
does a show at the O2 and sees
his own shadow, it'll be a long
winter.
And we wait until next year
but the backstage, the actual back
of the stage is kind of like
it's like the stage at a
music festival or something
yeah, sort of wires bolted to the floor
and some folding chairs
everything's sort of movable
because everyone has a different setup I guess
yeah, that's right.
Yes, there'll be someone.
It's funny to think of Britney Spears having a t-shirt.
She's not a very t-shirt person.
I think it might have been like one of the tall t-shirts.
Yeah, exactly.
But it's sort of, it's not for her so much.
No, no, no.
It would have to be like,
I guess a slightly eerie schoolgirl shirt.
It was like Britney Spears.
If the signed framed object related to the star.
With prints, it would have to be like a velvet waistcoat.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, right.
For Britney, it would be that tied up schoolgirl shirt.
Creepy schoolgirl top.
Yeah.
God bless her.
Mad now, of course.
Shame. Shame that she's mad now. Free, though. Yeah Mad now of course Shame
Shame that she's mad now
Free though
Free to be mad
Free but crazy
But you know it's cool to be backstage
There are all these superstars
And treaded those boards
Oh
I got something for you on the way here, which is...
Which will be both a treat, but also make you angry.
I just thought...
Lovely.
It's a bag of Drewverse, but made in London.
Oh, no.
And meat.
Meat.
South African dried sausage, but not not it's got a great taste award
but then that'll be given to them by 2017 oh pre-covid taste oh no but i thought i want to
i need a little snack and i kind of want to try it what i like is um because this is a culture that doesn't know what this is.
Yes.
They're having to emphasize sort of health benefits in a way that are laughable to me.
Right, yeah.
What does it say?
Gluten-free.
Low-carbon sugar.
Right.
Yeah, because it's fat and meat.
Yeah, and salt.
High in protein.
Yeah, it's a sausage.
Yeah.
No MSG.
Yeah, most things. It's not Asian. It's not Asian. Let's. Yeah, it's a sausage. Yeah. No MSG. Yeah, most things.
It's not Asian.
It's not Asian.
Let's be frank.
It's not Asian.
And I know you hate masticating on the waves,
but I want to see your reaction.
Just because we have recently, when we were in,
we went up north on a dining trip recently,
and you brought some absolutely fantastic
Biltong and Drovus
Shout out to
Not even a paid advert
I'd love for them to sponsor us and give us free stuff
Snoggies of South London
It's spelled how it sounds
You can order through the post
I order my beef through the post
Okay it's in little chunks
They've chunked it
Okay that's a bad sign
But they've sort of turned it into like a kind of crisp experience.
Okay.
He's whiffing the bag.
He's chewing.
No immediate obvious reaction so far.
He's thinking.
Appears to have even thought about this, actually.
Pretty bland.
Bland!
Yeah.
Let me try.
Compare it to the one that I gave you from Snoggy's.
This is like product placement now.
Apologies for this, listeners.
It's essentially a salami stick, is what we're dealing with here.
I don't think that is bland.
Oh, hmm.
The spices are nice and flavorful at the top.
But you're right, there's not too much... It top But you're right There's not too much
There's not too much to back it up afterwards
Yeah
It's oddly aromatic
I wonder what recipe they're using
It promises more than it delivers
But it's fine
It starts off very well
Actually the spicing is real nice
I think just the meat is not that tasty
It's all fine.
I wonder what meats they use.
You can use different combos.
What does it say?
Welcome to Sausage Pod.
You're listening to Sausage Pod.
Sausage from the mouth.
Sausage from the bum.
Now, they're using beef only, to be fair.
The ones we had, did they have other bits in them?
Beef, a little
bit of pork maybe even some lamb fat holy crap i know elaborate i think that's what we did that's
what we're missing that might be what we're missing but i like this because this is this
is like proper like pub this is the equivalent what all this labeling and stuff and this little
blue packet it's in like gluten-free do you need protein? Are you an active
leisure wearer?
Power walking?
It's all like if you went to a country
and
like pork scratchings were labelled like that
no gluten
good for carbo loading
the packaging
is really unpleasant.
It's blue.
It's dark blue.
It's kind of like...
You know what it looks like?
It looks like Holland and Barrett, Brazil nut.
Or like...
Wapachupa powder.
Mix it into your smoothies for greater vitality.
It looks like one of them.
It really does.
Come with a little plastic spoon.
Unhealthy snacks should not be packaged as healthy no and they're only doing it because
they don't know how to convince the british consumer to eat little sausages i feel like
this british consumer would love to eat little sausages all the british consumer wants is little
the second you say it's dried instead of like boiled and right fucking i couldn't convince
any of my friends growing up to try biltong or dry
Vos through a vos
What is it? It's like dark
And yeah it's like
Dried beef like steak
It's not even cooked it's raw
They're struggling
To get out of my vice like grip
Please eat it
And they'd eat it
And they'd sort of go yeah it's okay
Wrong Wrong go wrong go Eat it. And they'd eat it and they'd sort of go, oh, yeah, it's okay.
Wrong.
Wrong-o-fongo.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Wrong.
A thousand times wrong.
Yeah, they were just against it.
So I have sympathy for whatever marketing department had to sit and go,
right, guys, is there any gluten in these sausages?
Okay, gluten-free, great.
Next step.
Have these sausages directlyly caused any murders
Maybe that's worth mentioning
It puts me off food when it says
And I'm not trying to be some
Edgelord
We can't even handle gluten anymore
But when things say like gluten free
No MSG high in protein
It puts me off because it makes it look like the food's been tampered with
I was literally about to say
It's a big label that says,
we fucked with it.
Exactly, yeah. We fucked with it.
If it's naturally these things,
just leave it.
It was something really nice,
but don't worry,
some crucial element of the niceness,
we've fucked with it and taken it away.
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah.
Finally, lager without that annoying fizz.
Right, okay.
Too many people's teeth
Are damaged by the carbon
Dioxide in the fizz
Yeah
I don't want it then
I don't want it then
I don't care about those people
I don't care about them
Or my teeth
I want my fizzy beer
I didn't come here to be healthy
I came here to
Yeah I came here to drink poison
Yeah
It's very much salad at McDonald's
It's like
If I wanted this
I would go somewhere else.
I am always amazed that there isn't an option.
There's an option.
If you try to order McDonald's through Deliveroo or something,
or even on the big screens when you're in one,
and they're like, what would you like with your burger?
It's like, chips.
The fuck do you mean?
Are you sure you can have a bag of half green, half red, sour cherry
tomatoes?
What if someone picks carrot sticks and an alarm goes
off? Yeah, I think...
Just call the police.
Immediately, people
should rappel from the ceiling and shoot you.
Someone can go, I'm just trying to be healthy!
And then they blow his head off and it's just like
frozen mercury, like Terminator. Back to be healthy and then they blow his head off and it's just like frozen mercury like a terminator
back to normal and then realize you're a replicant or something
who yeah because who goes like well obviously i'm having like an incredibly dry melted cheese
mayonnaise covered fucking world's least bread like bun burger. But no, James.
Come on.
It shouldn't be an option.
No, no.
The chip should be assumed.
It's an insult to the taxpayer.
I love that sort of stuff.
LBC phone-in stuff.
It's a disgrace, actually. It's a disgrace, actually.
It's a disgrace.
I was on James O'Brien's podcast this week. Yes.
Full disclosure.
James O'Brien of LBC phone-in fame.
Oh, you talked about getting caned.
I talked about getting caned at school as a kid,
which I never talk about.
It's because all his listeners think it should come back
yeah just okay i didn't mean to bring it up really but uh most of the comments on twitter
like terrible terrible um i scroll like a campaign to end violence against children
tweeted like going terrible terrible yeah uh but i always bring it i never bring it up because i
don't think people would care then i do and people go that's horrible and i go yeah i guess i guess so yeah i mean there's still i think there
are still schools in south africa now that do it it's certainly not a problem in africa everyone's
finally yeah hit your kids how else are they going to learn to not do stuff without being
sort of smacked around a little bit but in the uk yeah there's such a virulent i think it's also just because the age maybe they've all sort of
just retired but like for a lot for the last 10 or 20 years the age of everyone in charge of
everything was the last bracket of british people to be hit yeah and it's like national service
everyone hated national service in the uk until it stopped right and then each generation that
didn't have to do it went oh maybe that's the solution to these to these young people yeah i think people who like want to bring back hanging or whatever
kind of the same right yeah they've never they never had to live through living in a society
where that happened or mistakes membership of the year is the same thing you know yeah you just
people just kind of want change because they think just change alone will fix something also
they're promised that before all this happened,
whatever's going on now, it was great before.
So they go, well, you know, like scientists,
if it was great before, let's replicate the conditions of before.
And what they don't realize is that they're being lied to,
and it wasn't great before.
It's just that nostalgia is a disease that has destroyed our country.
It really is.
But I scrolled through the some of
the tweets about your thing about being caned and a lot of the most supportive replies were from
profile pictures of people with like white beards supportive of saying like yeah terrible all right
yeah saying like yeah terrible whereas inevitably the replies that are like i think it's good it
will always be from someone who's sort of 50, say. Just missed out on it.
Classic boomer stuff.
The people who are more obsessed with the Second World War
than people who are actually alive doing it.
Yes, yeah, exactly.
Yes.
I've said this before, either on this or in my life,
but if you listen, like I did growing up,
because I was very cool, to The Goon Show,
the radio comedy in the 50s,
all they do is make fun of national service and the
army and like it's a constant joke that the british army officers are like corrupt and
cowardly and really and this is in the immediate aftermath of this this is 1955 yeah right so
they're still rationing 55 to 60 they're still rationing everyone involved in the show was in
the war right right they're all served um so they start going on about
how like drill sergeants are sort of like complete you know sadists and perverts and the officers are
cowardly and corrupt and ridiculous and this is something i also feel is um about the nhs the most
po-faced people about the nhs are people who work tangential to the nhs actual doctors and nurses
have a sense of humor about the nhs and they're willing to admit that there's some there are things wrong with it yeah but it's people i remember you know i
perform for like suppliers to the nhs and they were all like oh no no oh it's been very hard
but if you actually talk to doctors they wouldn't be like that because they're actually in there
again yeah i think that's true i think that's true our friend uh the great comedian garrett millerick had a good
routine about that yeah well he said like you're clapping for the doctors and the nurses the
receptionist can go fuck themselves was the gist of his routine because he had some terrible
experiences with admin staff of the nhs never the actual you know care workers yeah um yeah i think
that's right but yeah i mean like and then there was a bunch of episodes of the goon show they were making fun of how there were way too many um war autobiographies
like memoirs already by then yeah they were making fun of like oh another general with his
fucking book about my contribution to that was like when spike milligan wrote his autobiography
about his time in the war and a bit more generally than that it was called
my it's like hitler my part and his downfall that's so funny even though he was like you know
like a private or whatever it's really really funny but it was to make fun of that as an idea
yeah yeah whereas now everyone is like you say the boomers who were being born in that decade
are the most po-faced about it and like maybe
national service
would solve
these people's problems
and it's like
your
the people who you idolized
thought it was a stupid
waste of time
also you didn't go through it
and you never did it
you haven't got a clue
what it does
yeah
plus or minus
yeah
hmm
um
speaking of
uh
were you talking about
naughty people yeah I'm always talking about naughty people?
Yeah
I'm always talking about naughty people
Last time we spoke about Shemima Begum
Yes
And that night or a couple nights after I had a dream
Where I was like really close mates
With Shemima Begum
And you know what she was a bloody laugh
She was
She was She was really good value so maybe we've really judged her too
maybe we've misjudged the girl she's literally your dream woman she has chat she she's got chat
she's got banter it turns out she's got banter what's funny about this is because it was your
dream you're finding yourself funny through this sort of avatar no i'm but your brain made the jokes
happen oh right right right you see what i mean i don't even remember the jokes but i just remember
her sort of being quite cheeky really yeah she was cheeky she's cheeky that's what it is pretty
fucking cheeky yeah she was good value so i don't know i don't know what everyone's so upset about
i would love to see a demonstration about how like There's loads of signs, and some of the signs are about how, like,
it is illegal to render someone stateless.
And other signs are like, it's our mess, we should clean it up.
And then you're there with this big sign with a really serious face on,
and the sign just says, what if she's alive?
alive and a big photo of her with a question with a cry laughing emoji question mark what if she's a laugh
can we afford to take that risk bantz is at an all-time low. We've got no trade agreements.
We're running out of lettuce.
Bring banter home.
Bring it home.
What if she's a laugh?
I mean, is there anything more
bants than going off and joining ISIS?
I don't think so.
Remember that guy who got the photo taken
with that bomber on the plane?
Sort of considered by banter historians as the the zenith of banter there's a scottish guy um i think it was a flight
from glasgow to london or something and a rather deranged man got on and said he had a bomb right
and the guy uh a guy the scottish guy went up and asked if he could have a selfie and the guy was
like yeah right and he got this photo with the bomb.
Do you never see this? Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God. I thought you were going to talk about the Scottish,
the Glasgow airport terror attack.
He punched a man on fire.
He hoofed him in the nuts
or something when he was on fire.
Because they filled the jeep with
what they thought would explode and drove it into, like, the
wall of the airport. And it just set them on fire
and the jeep
and then they were just running around screaming.
Fantastic.
And then this guy just went,
ah!
Left into action and fucking...
And he got like an honour from the city or something.
Yeah.
He's probably never had to buy a pint again.
It's like,
if you buy me a beer,
I'll tell you about the time
I punched a flaming terrorist.
Sure.
I'm going to look this up I punched a flaming terrorist. Sure. Wait, so it's a selfie, a guy selfie with a terrorist.
Scottish bomber selfie.
Man who posed for...
Yeah, I'm surprised this passed you by.
When was this?
It must have been 20...
It's an Egypt Air hijacker.
Ah.
Okay, well, it wasn't his collar then.
Oh, he's also been...
He's also...
It seems like he's been in trouble
For something quite bad three years later
Oh shit what the guy
Who took the selfie
Yeah he did something bad
I didn't click on it but it was something to do with public urination
Oh
A passenger who took a selfie
With a hijacker wearing a suspected suicide belt
Said he posed for the photo to get a better look at the device
Smart
The guy doesn't look like He looks more like a professor than a terrorist Skyjacker wearing a suspected suicide belt said he posed for the photo to get a better look at the device. Smart.
The guy doesn't look like a... He looks more like a professor than a terrorist.
Yeah, like an old looking guy, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a fucking little blue shirt.
This guy's dressed like every guy on a stag do.
Yeah, look.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Goodness sake.
Yeah, he does look like...
He was 26.
Wow. He looks like he's at all bar one it looks like he's trying to take a picture with a guy from a fucking hbo series it's like look
look he's here yeah but but i've read sort of you know the history of banter and the age of the end
the age of banter and the end of the age of banter and you know a moment this is like considered
like the the ultimate banter this would be the cover of the textbook of banter and you know a moment this is like considered like the the ultimate banter
this would be the cover of the textbook yeah yeah yeah remember when you're a kid and every
textbook had like a picture on the cover and yeah the meaning would only become clear the deeper you
got into the subject we'd go oh and that's a picture right oh it's a cochlear yeah yeah
oh it's that's why the front cover is like a sort of melange of an apple and a tree and like a wheel.
It's physics.
Right, right, right.
Oh, wow.
I figured if his bomb was real, I'd lose nothing anyway.
Yeah.
Alexandria to Cairo.
So it was a domestic flight in Egypt, but the guy was Scottish.
Ah, okay.
God, that's fucking mad.
But he didn't punch him.
He didn't punch him.
I think the bomb wasn't real in the end.
No.
The guy was just a bit crackers.
The guy was a bit crackers.
He looks a bit crackers.
It's also funny to be like, can I have a selfie?
And just be like, well, yeah, of course.
I'm now, as of. I'm a fan.
And I'm now,
as of this instant,
a very famous hijacker.
So it makes sense
that you would want a selfie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But at no stage did he think like,
I should get this man in a headlock.
I'm next to him.
But yeah,
I guess if the bomb might be real.
Yeah.
Or he's got like a dead man grip
Dead man trigger?
Dead man switch, yeah
I wonder what his demands were
More bants
And he was satisfied
Yeah
And that's when he took the vest off
He went, well done
So he unclipped the vest and then just
Opens the door.
Gets sucked out.
Thunk.
Gone.
Boom.
I must return to my home planet now.
Thunk.
Aeros test just really slowly just shuts the door while the air is sucking everything out.
I guess we'll just keep flying.
Well, let's do some correspondence.
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Out-of-home poop enthusiasts? Are home poop enthusiasts are we why out of home public toilets the woods the stories the stories we receive are usually out of home yeah yeah oh i see so it's um
okay so let's see if you can guess this. It looks... It sort of...
Originally, it says,
Home is where the heart is, right?
But the heart is has been crossed out.
Okay.
So instead, it reads,
Home is where...
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So heart is is crossed out.
Yeah.
Home is where...
Blank, blank, blank, blank.
Home is where...
The crossing out...
I keep my poos.
The collection?
Yeah.
No, although it's obviously, it is about pooing.
I think I'm, yeah.
Home is where...
It doesn't work, the crossing out thing,
because it's clearly the sign is the size it was supposed to be. size it was supposed to be do you know what i mean yeah i hate that sort of faux i'll scribble this out
yeah yes faux correction um correction home is where blank blank blank is the first word i
no but it is of that flavor. Oh, you? Yeah.
Oh.
Home is where you do your poos.
Home is where you poop most comfortably.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought it might be that kind of vibe.
Which I suppose is true.
It is.
Depends how many people you live with.
Yes.
If you have lots of flatmates,
you probably poop most comfortably at work.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't know why you've got...
My home is awash with toilets.
It has as many toilets as a listener to this podcast
might assume we each have.
Yeah.
So I have an embarrassment of toilets in my home.
You have loads of toilets in the same way that like
if you were in like Van Halen,
you'd have loads of guitars on the wall and stuff.
I just can't stop buying them, you know.
Toilets in frames and stuff.
Glass frames.
Yeah.
I only shit in that one at the O2.
It's my O2 toilet.
Wow.
But I have an en suite.
So, I mean, that is the most poop-friendly toilet imaginable.
Fortress of Solitude.
Yeah.
It's great.
Yeah.
But I try and poop in the other toilets
Just so they don't get jealous
Well you gotta keep their
Keep their eye in
Keep them in the game
Yeah I feel like a polygamist
Trying to
You wouldn't want to not do one for a while
And then you shit in it
And somehow the shit just flies out
Because the toilet's forgotten
just rejects it immediately
we have a message from
make sure that
Matthew not a Matt for once
Matthew
have you
any news for us
he does the subject line is,
Posh boys just love to shit.
Interesting.
It's a new class analysis by Matthew.
Let's hear him out.
Let's hear him out.
Let's hear him out.
My dear Piero and Columbine.
Piero and Columbine?
I guess Piero and Columbine.
What's Piero?
I think Piero is like the Comedia dell'arte, the sad clown.
Ah.
With the white and black.
Yeah.
And I think Columbine must be who he's in love with.
Oh, he's not talking about the Columbine massacre?
No.
Okay.
I doubt it.
Yeah.
Was I there?
No.
Can't have been.
No.
I'm guessing here, though.
A recently caught up Pistorian here.
That's good. here, though. A recently caught up Pistorian here. That's good.
Oh, great.
Unlike some of these other maniacs,
it's taken me months to catch up with the current output.
An approach I believe is recommended by physicians.
Yes.
Physicians do recommend.
Yes, the NHS website recommends that pace.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And mayoclinic.com,
which is the other one that will come up
if you Google your health issues.
Yeah.
And Quora. Quora. which is the other one that will come up if you google your health issues yeah and and uh
quora quora where some maniac has misspelled a really serious health question and some
other maniac has misspelled an answer webmd also always comes up webmd of course it's so weird to
start hearing you talk about things that have happened quite recently your timeline gradually
converging with mine has been like the last few minutes of the film dunkirk what how the timelines converge
of course minutes hours days right i need to watch it again yeah so good given the military
given the militarism and cineastism of the podcast i'm assuming i don't need to explain
that reference no cineastism what's that mean oh cinnamon oh right the upshot is that i only just heard
your illuminating but brief discussion about posh boys and their prurient interest in shit
don't remember that i don't remember that um it is sort of top bants though isn't it
i guess so i guess so maybe we were talking about that lady who went out with that horrible posh guy
Oh who I've met
We met her at
Yeah we met at the theatre
Maybe that was the context
Anyway
As someone who attended the other place
Oxford University
Oh but we'll forgive you Matthew
This time Don't attend there again.
Just don't bring up the boat race and all's forgiven.
I don't even know who won the last one.
How dare you attend a place they're same as where we went.
How dare you go to another very good university.
We should be...
Universities should... Places should hate
places the most different from them.
But this is the... What was it called?
Narcissism of small differences.
Narcissism of small differences.
Yes. Our town sucks,
but we're better than the shithole down the road.
Same vibe.
Yeah.
As someone who attended the other place, I have often found myself rubbing shoulders
with the kind of milk-fed rugby boys
who apparently miss nanny so badly
they remain in Freud's anal stage
for the whole of their adult lives.
What is Freud's anal stage?
Like anal retention, right?
You're obsessed with shit and anal retention.
Oh, right.
But anal retention is like holding your shit in.
Yeah, like exerting control. I did that so much as a kid. I is like holding your shit in yeah like exerting control
I did that so much
as a kid
I was always
holding my shit in
oh yeah
I remember
you did some stand up
about it
I don't think so
I think I've talked about it
and how it's because
I just loved play
so much
and I was kind of
scared of the toilet
also like
yeah
the time you spent
how things have changed
how things have changed
yeah
I'm like Batman
you're like
I've become that
which I feared
to conquer it
the shite
I am vengeance
I am the shite
I am the shite
I am the shite
I'm not the shit
that you need
but I'm the
I'm not the shit
that you want
but I'm the shit you need right now.
But also as a kid, pooing time is not playing time.
Exactly, exactly.
It's scary, alone, violent time.
Yeah, it's true.
It's very violent doing that shit for a kid.
But that's why I always say that it's funny is that not just because everyone has to do it,
like Alfie Brown, great comedian, great guy, pointed out in his stand-up routine about you must shit but it's also funny because it's
the fact of something shooting out of your body that was inside it and is solid it's quite
traumatic but it's not just survivable it's compulsory yeah but it's this yeah anyway right
i mentioned here two brief examples by way of evidence, says Matthew.
Okay.
Item, the egg tray.
The egg tray.
In my first year...
Well, we'll find out.
Okay.
In my first year at Oxford, I lived in college.
My room was at the top of a Gothic tower.
Because as you boys know, when you're at Oxford, you get to live in Hogwarts.
Mm-hmm.
Protected as I was by a steep stone spiral staircase.
Lovely. I was rarely visited steep stone spiral staircase. Lovely.
I was rarely visited there, even by my friends, which is fine by me.
So imagine my surprise when in the
small hours of one Saturday night in first term
I was woken by the breathless galumphing
of a brace of posh boys
just outside my door.
Okay. Wow. That's threatening.
That's scary. Yeah.
For a few seconds I was terrified I was about to be the victim
of a break-in and possible de-bagging.
De-bagging?
Pull your pants down, I guess. Oh.
Okay. Some sort of... I know tea-bagging.
That's after.
But it soon emerged
from their whispered yet full-volume conversation
that they
were in fact using my staircase to hide from
that bowler-hatted sentinel the night porter
oh yes we should say for listeners who are not as privileged as ours the the porters were these guys
in bowler hats who tended to be ex-military who are basically just the security guards of the
building of the college they're the guys who are in like a little visitor's glass box or office at
the entrance and their job is largely to keep an eye
on things stop people breaking in and stealing old paintings and also to stop tourists from just
walking in yeah because loads of tourists think it's like a museum they don't realize there's
actually students in there living in there they just wander in and so on i remember i don't know
if you ever had this but i remember in my like college like bar where people would go and have
like paninis in the day.
Oh, yeah.
Just like a full family just came in and started taking pictures.
It was like, could you leave, please?
Really?
Yeah.
Were they squatted out?
Yeah.
Good!
Everyone was just like, oh, no, you don't really understand where you are.
Right, right, right, right.
It was very odd.
Much to my annoyance, they began to loudly regale one another with a detailed account of their recent crimes.
Oh, no.
Why they needed to tell each other about the things they'd both just done together, I do not know.
Yeah, I've never understood that.
That's funny.
Oh, my God, did you see?
Yeah, of course he saw.
He was there with you.
Yeah, I was there.
But it was, to them, hilarious.
To me, it was like having to listen to the expository dialogue from a badly written thriller at volume 11.
And it made it impossible to get back to sleep.
What emerged as I lay there with a pillow clamped over my ear
was a depressingly familiar tale of Bullingdon Club-style hijinks.
Oh, no.
And just as night follows day,
their revels had inevitably culminated in a bout of unfettered public shitting,
one of the turds in question,
the subject of a heated discussion by this pair of junior David Camerons,
had been laid inside an oven that had then been turned to full blast.
I hate that so much.
In an echo of one of your former correspondent's stories,
if you don't remember that.
It does ring a bell.
Poo oven.
It's a bad smell.
Ugh.
But the feat that had reduced these meatheads to awe had been committed in one of those big catering trays
that holds five dozen eggs,
each on their own little cardboard egg cup.
Oh, yes.
What?
It's those big square trays
where it's just like infinite eggs.
Well, cardboard.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, okay, okay. So like basically what you buy eggs in, but like on and on. Well, cardboard. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
So like basically what you buy eggs in,
but like on and on and on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In a square.
In a square, like a pallet of eggs.
Yeah, a pallet of eggs.
One of the screaming rah-rahs
had evidently tipped out
the entire contents of the tray
and then dropped his pants
and proceeded to lay a single brown egg
of his own
into each of the 60 vacated spaces.
What?
How?
That's impressive.
That's anal retention.
That's control.
That's anal retention.
The two harebrained toughs spent what felt like half an hour
praising the precision with which their pal
had dolloped his leavings like some Bake Off contestant
with a piping bag of chocolate ganache.
Mr. Whippy. Really good. That is impressive good that is impressive it is impressive how was there
so much of it well i mean volume wise it's probably not too much of an ask do you think
well i mean we need to see we need to we've got to see how big this palette is 60 eggs
60 eggs yeah no yeah okay that's quite a lot. That is a lot.
Then they fell into a reverential silence.
By the time I got to my door to tell them to fuck off,
the two had vanished like a pair of ghostly skid marks into the night.
Item two, nursing.
At my first job, nine to five, after graduating, one of my colleagues was a tweedy young man
who had after-work drinks like nothing more than to regale us
with tales of his
rugby club weekend antics
oh no
he became particularly animated when telling us about the forfeits
inflicted on him by his teammates after a match
when on the field of play he'd
transgressed some unwritten code
oh yeah
he
here was someone who loved to be disciplined
and this ostensibly heterosexual man was never happier than when his punishment involved some form of anal violation meted out by the gang of burly men.
Yes?
The sweet spot for him.
Yeah, they are sort of obsessed with...
I think that Dave Chappelle has a thing.
He had an old routine about...
White guys get drunk.
They're always putting stuff up each other's assholes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put a carrot in his putting stuff up Each other's assholes Yeah yeah yeah
Put a carrot in his butt
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah
Always mess with each other
Never pass out around these guys
Yeah
Yeah
It is some bro thing
He was never happier
This ostensibly heterosexual man
Was never happier
Than when his punishment
Involved some form of anal violation
Meted out by the gang of burly men
The sweet spot for him
Was when he transgressed so badly
the rest of the team was obliged to call on
Nursey.
Nursey at Transpired was one of the larger
members of the team squeezed into a costume
shop nurse's uniform.
Oh, this is on the night out.
This is just in general. What? He's always
wearing a nurse's uniform? No, no, but he puts it on for the
purposes of becoming Nursey. Oh my god.
Yeah. What, at the match? No, after.
Oh, every time.
If something does happen
that is bad enough to qualify to activate
nursing. Wow.
This is a nightmare. This is weird.
Yeah.
I know exactly the costume shop
nurse uniform that they mean as well.
Medical lady.
Caring dress woman.
Squeezed into a costume shop nurse's uniform and armed with an enema tube.
Obtained from Christ knows where.
Well, the internet.
I think you can guess the rest, but I still remember with a shudder this Medigimps account
of the instant and devastating evacuations that would occur when Nursey went about her business.
What?
I don't understand guys who find this fun.
Yeah.
So Matthew's got two questions for us, basically.
Yeah.
What would be the generic costume shop name
for the horrifying nurse's uniform?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
Colonic Invasion Medic.
That's good.
Butch Tubular Violator.
Are these Matthew's suggestions? Butch tubular violator. Are these Matthew's suggestions?
Yeah.
Butch tube violator.
Medical bum rinser.
Underpaid anal worker.
Cross-dressing enema person. If we assuming that it's for a rugby person to wear yeah
um two why is it that the scions of our crumbling aristocracy relish these fecal frolics
i've lived among these people for much of my life but i have no idea
so i was hoping you guys would uh you two bold anthropologists
would be able to help us koji matthew um i don't know
really the the truth of the matter is that they never actually aristocracy they're just
upper middle class yeah they're never a duke or something but it is it is more right yeah
then again is this not just the sort of um white collar version of whenever england was playing
during the world cup and there were those people with fireworks in their assholes.
Yeah, it's true.
Or that guy who, I saw a video of him
drinking a pint that
had been poured down the exposed
and splayed bum
cracks of
five men piled on top of each other.
I don't want to hear about this.
The beer was just running over a bare bum hole.
I don't want to hear that the beer was just running over like i don't want to hear that story
okay so it seems to just be like a an everyone thing apart from the middle class it's kind of
like all all roads lead to rome right all bantrus up a one-upmanship leads to the the anus all roads
lead to brown.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
And I think it's only people who've been raised to be like,
good boys in the suburbs who don't do it.
I think the blue collar and the white collar,
it's like those things where like the working class and the upper class are actually more in tune with each other
than the middle class.
Also, I think it comes from a place of of
privilege because you know you've had a comfortable life if you had a tough poor upbringing the last
thing you're going to do is add horrible experience to it by choice you know i mean yeah only someone
who is otherwise very comfortable and all right i don't know though. Soldiers. This is the sort of shit they get up to. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Initiations and all that shit.
Interesting.
Well, it's proved to be a more complex question than we'd anticipated.
I think bum antics are the same as patriotism.
How so?
In the UK.
You can be patriotic if you're posh or if you're blue collar.
Right.
Yeah.
Those are the two types of people who can own a flag.
Yeah, right.
Soldiers and the posh.
Yeah, an aristocrat to fly an England flag from his personal cricket ground.
Or like a white van guy.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know what, Matthew?
If anything, you're bourgeois.
If you're a man of the people you'd be
right there sculling a pint from filter 311 bumholes just like those cool football guys
i would love to read like a marxist academic defending like bum antics as like
oh like a class indicator proletariat yeah prolapsed satiricatariat And bourgeoisie
The bourgeoisie
Well thanks Matthew
That was a really good email
We now have to go to the
The never ending
Rugby club initiation that is the Patreon
Oh no
Okay
Something like that
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