Canadian True Crime - 121 The Murder of Robert LeVoir
Episode Date: October 15, 2022FORT McMURRAY | In 2002, the family of 25-year-old DJ Robert LeVoir reported him missing after they hadn't heard from him for two weeks. But the RCMP didn't seem to be doing much to help, in fact the...y didn't publicly announce Robert's disappearance for 8 months. Understandably frustrated by the lack of progress, his family had no way of knowing that an elaborate plan to discover what had happened to Robert was already being set in motion behind closed doors. Correction note: since releasing this episode, we've been advised that Robert LeVoir's surname isn't the French pronunciation; it's instead pronounced Le-Vor. We're not able to correct all the instances of this in the episode, but our sincere apologies to anyone affected by this error.AD-FREE episodes are available via our Premium FeedsSign up via Apple Podcasts, Patreon or SupercastCredits:Research and writing: Emily G Thompson of Morbidology PodcastAdditional research and writing, sound design: Kristi LeeAudio editing and production: We Talk of DreamsProduction assistance: Jesse Hawke Theme songs by We Talk of DreamsDisclaimer voiced by the host of TrueFull list of credits and information sourcesSee the page for each episode at canadiantruecrime.ca/episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apple Podcasts. It all really helps so thank you. So today's case is one that I promised earlier this
year. Regular listeners will remember the Karen and Christa Hart series about the three-year-old
twins from Newfoundland who drowned in the water and their father Nelson Hart who was accused of
pushing them in. The case raised many questions about the ethics of Mr Big undercover stings and how
a breach of those ethics can result in abuse or misconduct threatening the integrity of the
justice system and the fairness of trials. That case ended up before the Supreme Court of Canada
and so too did today's which the media has referred to as the killer DJ case and with that it's on
with the show. Canadian True Crime is a completely independent production funded mainly through
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Fort McMurray is an urban service area or city located about a four and a half hour drive northeast
of Edmonton in the province of Alberta. Founded in the 1800s as a trading post, Fort McMurray would
eventually play a key role in the history of the petroleum industry in Canada. It happens to be
located right in the middle of the Athabasca oil sands, the largest known reservoir of crude
bitumen in the world occupying an area larger than the entire country of England. The oil sands lie
under 141,000 square kilometres of natural ecosystem with burrell forest wetlands and
diverse wildlife. The area sustained local indigenous communities for thousands of years
and they use the thick crude bitumen deposits to waterproof their canoes.
Today the Athabasca oil sands is a significant contributor to Alberta's economy keeping untold
people employed and oil companies highly profitable. It's also often referred to as the largest and
most destructive industrial project on earth but that's a story for another time.
We're zooming in to the small city of Fort McMurray in 2002 when about 47,000 residents called it home.
One of those residents was 25-year-old Robert Levois, a local musician and DJ.
His father, Monty Levois, would describe him to Fort McMurray today as a very smart guy.
Quote, he was into all kinds of music, it really didn't matter to him. He'd play anything and he
was good at it. Robert spent most weekends DJing in local bars around Fort McMurray and during the
week he worked odd jobs to supplement his income including working at a gas station.
Robert's family also lived in Fort McMurray and he was reportedly close with them but because of his
hectic schedule balancing his DJing gigs with his other work he didn't get to see them very often.
But no matter what he always found the time to phone home every week or so just to check in and see
what was going on. In early December of 2002 Robert's parents and siblings realised that
two weeks had passed since his last phone call. While they generally didn't keep tabs on where
he was or what he was doing it was out of character for him to go more than two weeks with no contact.
There isn't a lot of information that was reported publicly about Robert Levois
but his family knew he had substance use disorder more specifically the hazardous use of cocaine.
Concerns swept over his family immediately. They wondered if something nefarious had happened to
him. They also considered the fact that he might have secretly moved or even fled from Fort McMurray.
Perhaps he had bad debts or was in some kind of trouble. They just didn't know.
So they reported him to the RCMP as a missing person. But investigators believe that Robert's
disappearance was nothing more than that a disappearance. They did open an informal file
for him but didn't initiate any search procedures or announce his disappearance publicly.
They figured that he was a grown man who most likely left of his own volition and he either
didn't want to be found or he would likely just show up one day.
But he didn't. Christmas passed and then the new year and there was still no sign of Robert Levois.
His family had been doing all they could putting up missing persons posters all over Fort McMurray
and extending out to the local area. But they were disappointed that the RCMP didn't seem to
think the situation was as serious and they weren't doing much to help. In fact the RCMP
did not publicly announce Robert's disappearance until July of 2003, eight months after he'd
last been seen. The announcement stated that 25 year old DJ Robert Levois was last seen in the
Fort McMurray area and described him as a white male with a neat appearance, short brown hair,
no facial hair and green eyes. He stood at around six foot one and weighed 68 kilograms or about
150 pounds. Robert's family had been growing increasingly frustrated at the months of apparent
inaction in his case but after a while they wondered if perhaps investigators were holding
back for a reason. Perhaps they knew something that no one else knew.
Robert Levois family were right, the RCMP were holding back information. There'd been a development
behind the scenes but it would be several years before Robert's family learned the truth.
About a month after the 25 year old had vanished the staff sergeant from a local RCMP detachment
had received a phone call from a man who reported that his friend had just confessed to the murder
of Robert Levois. He gave the name of the friend Dax Richard Mack, a 30 year old man who like Robert
was also a DJ in Fort McMurray but there was more that they had in common. Dax Mack owned the house
that Robert Levois had lived in. In fact they'd both lived there together with Robert renting a room
and because the two men DJed in bars around Fort McMurray they also had many acquaintances in common.
It was one of those acquaintances who called the local RCMP detachment. J Love was a security guard
who reported that he'd been good friends with Dax Mack for quite a few years right up until they
had a strange encounter. That encounter happened on December 21st of 2002 just a few weeks after
Robert Levois was last seen but J didn't know that at the time. Dax Mack arrived to pick him up for
a night out together with another friend named Michael Argetta. According to J the three men
attended some local bars together but at one point during the night Michael got a phone call
and had to leave and pick someone up. Dax said that Michael could take his truck while he and
J had more drinks at the bar. J said that he and Dax made some small talk for a while but the mood
started to shift a bit as Dax had more drinks. He started talking about how close their friendship
was and as he became more intoxicated he asked J outright whether he could trust him.
Of course J said. Dax then said something surprising. Robbie's gone.
J told the staff sergeant that he assumed that the Robbie Dax was referring to was his roommate
Robert Levois but he wasn't quite sure what to make of this comment. The staff sergeant wanted
to know if the bar was noisy and if J was intoxicated as well. J essentially confirmed that
he was tipsy but not intoxicated like Dax and while the bar was noisy he heard what Dax was
saying clearly because he went on to repeat those two words numerous times. Robbie's gone. Robbie's
gone. J said he asked Dax to elaborate and explain what he meant. Dax responded Robbie's dead.
J didn't quite know what to say and asked Dax a bit casually if he'd outsourced it. To his surprise
Dax replied no I did it myself and added that he wasn't sure why the RCMP hadn't come knocking yet.
He asked J what he would say if they showed up. As the two men walked out of the bar the
ominous conversation continued. This time Dax volunteered some more details. He told J that
he drove Robert's body to the rural property his father owned and let it burn there for about three days.
At the detachment J explained that at first he didn't know whether to believe Dax's claims or not
because Dax was reportedly a person who told tall stories and had a habit of quote making threats
about people. But that night J caught a taxi home and when it pulled up outside he noticed that there
was a truck parked out the front of his house that looked exactly like Dax's. He suddenly became
concerned for his own safety and called Dax to ask if it was his truck. He then called Dax
Dax reminded him that their other friend Michael Argetta had been driving the truck that night.
It all seemed above board but J couldn't shake the uncomfortable feeling he was getting. In fact
he was starting to feel afraid about the situation he found himself in so that's why he decided to
contact someone he knew at the Fort McMurray RCMP detachment. Through his work as a security guard
J had become acquainted with Staff Sergeant Storfer. In fact J Love had actually been an
auxiliary RCMP member for a few years part of a group of unarmed specially trained volunteers
that according to the RCMP website quote give their time to help keep our community safe.
But in 2001 the year before Robert Levoix went missing the RCMP suspected J of being involved
in the importation of steroids. J denied any wrongdoing but he was obligated to resign from
his role as an auxiliary member of the RCMP. After that he still maintained a friendly
relationship with Staff Sergeant Storfer. The two men got on well and they had things in common
so that's why J was comfortable contacting him the day after Dax had apparently confessed to murder.
It appears that at the time neither J nor Staff Sergeant Storfer were aware that Robert
Levoix's family had reported him missing just weeks earlier. Because those investigating officers
believed Robert was a grown man who didn't want to be found not only had they not announced his
disappearance publicly but they hadn't disseminated his information to the local detachments. In fact
it would be another week before the RCMP connected J's information to the report of Robert Levoix
as a missing person. After the phone call Staff Sergeant Storfer asked J to come to the
detachment and give a recorded statement. Dax hadn't mentioned a reason or a motive for the
murder that night but J knew from a previous conversation that he wasn't pleased with his
housemate Robert. Dax had two sons and it's not known if they also lived full time in the same home
but Dax had complained to J that Robert had stolen money from his son's piggy bank. He also claimed
that Robert had been using his phone to make calls using up his minutes and that he'd also
been using drugs in the home. These reasons didn't seem to warrant a murder but it was
evidence of a motive. After the RCMP connected J's information with Robert Levoix's missing
persons report J was asked to attend the RCMP headquarters and provide a statement there too.
After that investigators brought Dax Mack in for questioning. The 30 year old told investigators
he knew nothing about his housemate's disappearance. He didn't know where he was and completely denied
any involvement in whatever may have happened to him and after all Robert Levoix was still missing.
Nobody had been found and other than J loves strange conversation with Dax there was no
evidence that a crime had even occurred let alone enough evidence for an arrest warrant.
Since J had reported that Dax told him he'd burned Robert's body at his father's rural property
a search of that property was likely the next move but there was not enough evidence to secure a
warrant for that perhaps there was another way. As regular listeners to this podcast well know
the Mr Big tactic is an undercover sting procedure developed by the RCMP in British Columbia in the
early 1990s. It's a last ditch tactic that police may choose to use when they have a main suspect
but the investigation has come to a dead end with not enough evidence for an arrest. Mr Big
undercover stings are elaborate operations that are assigned large budgets. Typically the suspect
is asked to be part of a fictitious crime gang and is eventually manipulated into confessing
something big as a kind of demonstration that they can be trusted with a more important role in the
gang. It's no secret that the Mr Big technique is controversial in fact it's banned in the US
and the UK. It raises even more ethical issues than a typical undercover sting because the police
aren't just infiltrating an existing gang of criminals this is an operation where the police
pretend to be the criminal gang themselves and lure in the suspect to participate in fake criminal
activities. A Mr Big sting was approved for DAX Mac and it started towards the end of 2003 which
coincided with the one-year anniversary of Robert Lavoie's disappearance. Obviously the RCMP had
received authorization to intercept and record all of the interactions between the undercover
officers and DAX Mac. Begetting the sting started in the first place is not easy and requires very
careful planning. Most Mr Big stings start with the suspect suddenly making an awesome new friend
out of the blue. Of course the way the undercover agent first meets the suspect is a carefully
planned completely engineered scenario designed to look like serendipity like they just happen to
meet at the right place and time. The RCMP did their research into DAX Mac's life and how he
spent his time discovering that he had a regular DJ gig at a particular bar. It was decided that
this would be the place he would have the meet cute with the undercover officer assigned to be
his BFF in the gang. Let's call that undercover officer Rory. Rory started off by showing up
to the bar when DAX was DJing and would often bring attractive women with him to catch his eye.
These women were of course fellow RCMP officers also undercover. Before long Rory and friends
had engaged the bars DJ with their fun and extroverted personalities and Rory and DAX started
to build a rapport. About a week after their first meeting Rory casually asked DAX if he
wanted to make a bit of extra money on the down low. DAX's ears pricked up. Rory told him that he
was doing some work for a criminal organization and he'd been assigned a job that he needed help with.
Apparently someone owed the crime boss some money and they weren't paying so Rory had been tasked
with repossessing that person's quad bike to recover the funds he owed. DAX Mac agreed to help.
DAX drove them both in his own truck to the home of the vehicle owner who owed money.
They repossessed the quad bike then collected $200 from its owner who was of course another
undercover RCMP officer. Rory then told DAX that they needed somewhere to store the vehicle for
the time being, preferably somewhere rural. Behind the scenes the RCMP were hoping that
this would prompt DAX to offer his father's rural property, the place where he reportedly
confessed to Jay Love that he'd burnt Robert Levoire's remains. And he did. DAX and Rory
drove out to his father's property and stored the quad bike there for a while.
A few days later Rory told DAX that his boss had instructed him to pick up the quad bike
and take it to the boss's warehouse. As the two drove they chatted and DAX suddenly brought up
his roommate and tenant Robert describing him as a quote crackhead. DAX said he'd tried to help him
by getting him into rehab but it didn't work and recently Robert had vanished without a trace.
DAX then went on to tell undercover officer Rory the same story that Jay Love had reported.
That Robert had stolen from his son's piggy bank. DAX added that as far as he was concerned quote
the guy was pushing up daisies. But later in that same conversation with Rory,
DAX said he'd heard from somebody else that Robert may have gone to Calgary to work as a DJ.
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a way to bring out Robert Levoix's disappearance because Dax had brought up the topic himself.
Perhaps in time they could make him feel comfortable enough to continue. This is why each
Mr Big operation takes months sometimes years and costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Putting together a gang of undercover officers posing as fake criminals who stage fake crimes
and exchange fake payments needs to be convincing. And after the suspect agrees to participate in the
illegal operations of the gang they have to see evidence that the gang is real for the whole
thing to be believable. So here's how the Mr Big Sting works. The RCMP devises a series of
staged scenarios with undercover agents playing criminals within the gang and as the suspect
is brought in to each new scenario they're showered with friendship a sense of belonging
praise for a job well done and of course money the financial payoff. The ultimate goal is for
the sting to culminate in a highly anticipated and hyped up meeting with the head of the gang
the Mr Big character played by yet another undercover officer. So now that Dax had confirmed
he was willing to work for the gang more scenarios were crafted to escalate the situation up to that
Mr Big meeting. There were small jobs including more repossessions delivering packages and spying
on people. Dax was shown how large sums of money were running through the criminal organization.
During one scenario he had to pick up a large sum of money and then deposit it into other bank
accounts and in another Dax delivered a package to Rory his undercover agent BFF and the gang
who promptly opened it up for Dax to see that it contained thirty thousand dollars in cash.
After a few months the RCMP determined that the situation had reached a point where it was time
for Dax to meet Mr Big. At this meeting they would show Dax just how important respected
and feared Mr Big was. Undercover officer Rory invited Dax to the meeting which would take
place in Vancouver. Dax was told it was a big deal and if he played his cards right it would
lead to more work more money and more respect in their criminal organization. The meeting went well
and Dax was told that he was trusted enough to move up within the criminal organization
and after that the job started to increase in both payout and criminality and he started to
be given more responsibilities. Obviously they were all staged scenarios but Dax was asked to
commit what he believed were break and enter jobs as well as more collection and delivery jobs.
As each job was successfully completed the relationship between Dax and his BFF Rory
continued to grow to a point where Dax began to look at him less like a criminal gang co-worker
and more of a close friend and trusted confidant and that's exactly what the RCMP wanted.
One evening Rory told Dax about a bad situation he'd gotten into. He showed Dax an older injury
to his body explaining that he'd been attacked with an ice pick during one of his earlier jobs.
But Mr Big came to the rescue. He told Dax that he was grateful when Mr Big took him to hospital
and also told him he'd take care of the guy responsible for attacking him and when that
day of reckoning came Mr Big arranged an airtight alibi for Rory. Rory couldn't say enough good
things about Mr Big but the undercover officer playing Rory was actually laying the foundation
because soon a situation would arise where Dax would be asked to rely on Mr Big as well.
The conversation continued and Rory asked Dax if he'd ever beaten somebody up.
Dax said that during a bar fight he'd broken another man's nose and then said there was
one other incident but he couldn't talk about it. Rory's face was solemn. He told Dax that this was
a problem because it might bring suspicion onto the gang not to mention Mr Big himself.
Dax dismissed the concerns saying there was no chance this would happen because the police
were not looking for him in relation to this particular incident. He reassured Rory that
there was nothing to worry about. Rory came back to Dax with a message from the crime boss.
If he wanted to be part of the gang there were three rules that he had to follow. One, honesty.
Two, was not to move in on someone else's property and three, don't take credit for somebody else's
work. Rory referred to the honesty rule telling Dax that if he wanted to continue with the criminal
organization and receive the benefits then he would need to share all the details about this
other incident so that Mr Big knew what they were up against and could be prepared if it
ever came up as a problem. Rory asked Dax if the incident involved anyone who quote
wasn't walking anymore. The implication was that they were now dead. Dax nodded his head before
stating every man has a breaking point. All the conversations between Dax and the undercover officers
were being recorded including this one. Rory thanked him and said he'll check in with the
crime boss to see what the next step was. The next thing Dax knew he was given a new job
to drive a package to Vancouver. He was told that while there he would meet some of the other
members of the criminal organization and he would also have an interview with Mr Big to get to the
bottom of this incident and establish if it had the potential to blow back on the gang.
As Dax and Rory were waiting for more instructions Dax started talking about Robert Levoire saying
that he was a drug dealer and was in a lot of debt. He said he was one of the people that
Robert owed money to. He'd lent him $600 for rehab that he never went to. Dax delivered the
package in Vancouver as instructed and then went to a yacht to meet six other members of
the criminal organization all undercover RCMP officers who were there as senior executives
of the gang so to speak. They were also there to impress Dax by showing him what it might be like
to be one of them and to make sure he knew that his upcoming interview with Mr Big was a serious
and important event. One of them was introduced to Dax as the enforcer of the organization
and he pulled Dax to the side for a little chat. He said he'd noticed that Dax and Rory
seemed close and questioned Dax about it. Was he prepared to protect Rory if needed?
Dax replied yes and the enforcer said he'd better or he would come and find him and deal with him.
The day after the yacht meetings Dax went for an interview with Mr Big at an apartment in
downtown Vancouver. Now this is the meeting where typically Mr Big has the specific task
of further manipulating the power dynamic with the suspect with the goal of eliciting a full
confession. When Dax showed up at the apartment the undercover officer playing Mr Big questioned
him about the incident he'd mentioned briefly to Rory but Dax refused to talk. Mr Big pressed him
some more asking more and more questions to try and get any more details even if just a shred.
When Dax continued to refuse to elaborate Mr Big became irate and informed him that unless
he divulged his secret he would remain on the organization's third line doing only small jobs
with no opportunity to move up to jobs with a higher payday. Dax stood firm. He said he couldn't
reveal the information because loose lips sink ships. Mr Big abruptly ended the meeting.
Later when Dax was alone with Rory he confessed that he didn't much like the conversation with
Mr Big and the questions being hurled at him made him feel stressed. This is exactly how the RCMP
wanted him to feel that Mr Big was being serious and if Dax couldn't be truthful with them then
he needed to know his role in the gang was in jeopardy. The next month passed by and Dax was
given no new jobs. When he inquired what was happening he was reminded once again that he
needed to be truthful and speak about the incident. But before long Dax found himself
in financial trouble. He was mostly unemployed other than his DJ gigs and worked odd jobs here
and there just like Robert Levois had done. He also had two sons to support. During his few months
working small jobs with the gang Dax had earned a total of about four thousand dollars.
It wasn't a massive windfall but it did help significantly with his financial situation.
This is one of the reasons why Mr Big's stings are so controversial. The scenarios that the RCMP
puts together to demonstrate the gang is real sometimes end up being so flashy so elaborate
and convincing that a suspect who is particularly vulnerable might do anything to remain a part
of the gang. This might include telling Mr Big what he obviously wants to hear even if it might not
be true. Dax now realized that the stakes were high and told Rory that he'd changed his mind and was
willing to sit down once more with Mr Big and be forthcoming about the incident. He said he needed
the money. Rory asked him for clarification. Are you willing to sit down and tell Mr Big about
your roommate and how you would kill him? When Dax said that he was Rory said he was happy to hear
that but warned him that he would need to provide actual details about the murder not just vaguely
admit that it was him. In response Dax blurted out that Robert was quote a liar a thief and a piece
of shit drug dealer. He seated placed a tracker on Robert's phone and discovered he'd been selling
crack cocaine out of the room that he rented. Dax added that in the moment he believed that
Robert knew he was going to be killed. He was pointing the gun at him and Robert turned around
put his hands up and said Dax. Robert was shot five times with a .223 rifle four times in the chest
and then once more in the back to make sure he was dead. Dax said that he burned the body for
around two to three days so there would be no evidence of Robert left. Rory then asked about
the murder weapon and Dax said that he'd kept it. But after talking for a bit longer Dax suddenly
backtracked. He told Rory you know everything I just told you was bullshit I was bullshitting you.
Taken aback Rory said he hoped that he wasn't and offered up a secret of his own. Rory told Dax
that he'd been hiding out in Fort McMurray because he'd shot somebody in the back of the head over
a $50,000 debt and then he tossed the body off a yacht. It wasn't true of course but the undercover
agent playing Rory hoped it would give Dax the reassurance he needed to press on with his own
confession. Apparently it worked. Dax drove Rory out to his father's rural property again
and this time walked him over to an area where there was a relatively large fire pit. He pointed
to the fire pit and stated that this was where he'd burned Robert's body for several days under a pile
of logs. Rory once again asked Dax if he was being truthful and he insisted that he was.
Chillingly he stated that he'd brought his son over to the property and they cooked hot dogs over
the charred remains. So the RCMP had a first confession from Dax Mack but now they had to
get a second given directly to Mr Big. Another meeting was arranged and this time Dax was flown
out to Edmonton. He gave the same confession he'd given to Rory telling Mr Big that Robert was a
crackhead who had stolen from his son's piggy bank. Mr Big asked Dax whether he was just making the
confession up so that he could progress in the criminal organization. When Dax insisted that he
was not, Mr Big told him that every time he killed somebody he always remembered it so vividly that
he could even recall what song was playing on the radio at the time. Dax responded by telling Mr
Big that when he drove Robert out to his father's property to kill him the song Bone Cracker was
playing on the radio. The Mr Big sting had taken five months but they finally had their two confessions.
In April of 2004, the second year after 25 year old Robert Lavoie's death, Dax Mack was arrested
and charged with his first degree murder. The arrest came as a complete surprise to Robert's
family. In an interview with the Edmonton Journal his father, Mountie Lavoie, confirmed that Robert
lived in Dax Mack's home and that they were friends. He said his son had never shared any
concerns he might have had about Dax with him or to any other member of the family so it was a
complete shock for them to learn that Dax was the one who had been arrested. As was the fact that
this news confirmed that Robert must be dead. In another interview with Fort McMurray today,
Mountie said quote, This is a bit of closure, two years is a long time to wait to see what
happened to our son. He said that the whole time they'd been waiting for news they hoped that
they would one day see their son walk through the front door but this new development completely
shattered those hopes. Shortly after Dax Mack was arrested, the RCMP executed a search warrant at
his father's wooded acreage property. The first thing investigators noticed was the ashes and
debris lying on the bottom of the large fire pit. Nearby they spotted a red fuel can with some kind
of liquid in it as well as wood logs and fire-starting blocks. To an unsuspecting person nothing looked
out of the ordinary but renowned forensic anthropologist and professor at the University of
Alberta Dr. Owen Beattie soon arrived with his team to sift through the ashes. They quickly
discovered that it wasn't just charred debris left in the fire pit but instead charred human remains.
They would find more than four and a half thousand fragments of human bone and teeth
and they weren't scattered around. Each fragment was found in the correct anatomical position.
It was determined that the body had been burned at the same spot where the remains were found
and the condition and colour of the remains indicated the fire had reached temperatures
of between 900 and 1400 degrees Celsius. The team of forensic anthropologists determined
that the remains belonged to a man somewhere between 20 and 30 years old but due to the condition
of the remains they were unable to determine how the man had died or how long ago it had happened.
Although Dr. Beattie speculated that it likely been there for at least one year,
noting that some moss had been found growing on one piece of the remains.
As well as 87 tooth fragments the remains included a dental bridge which was compared
to Robert's dental records. It was a match. His family were given the news. In an interview with
Fort McMurray today his father, Mountie Levoit, described it as a little more closure with every
step it's more closure. The search of Dax's father's rural property also turned up five
shell casings but the weapons themselves still needed to be found. Luckily it wasn't hard.
After Dax was arrested a search warrant was also executed at his own home and investigators seized
two rifles, one of which was matched to those five shell casings.
Just a week later Dax Max shuffled into court for his first hearing. His head was freshly shaved
and he was wearing a grey shirt and a pair of glasses. As the court hearing was finishing up
Dax Max's father, the owner of the property where Robert's remains had been found, stood up and hollered
Dax we love you. Dax Max would plead not guilty to murdering Robert Levoit
and furthermore he would be claiming that someone else had been responsible.
The trial started in April of 2006, three and a half years after Robert Levoit's disappearance.
The crown prosecutor told the jury about the Mr Big Sting operation and how Dax Max had confessed
in full to murdering his friend and roommate Robert Levoit. Quote and after he shot him
he burned the body for three days using firewood and diesel fuel. In the lead up to the trial
there'd been some hearings regarding the covert recordings and wiretaps that the RCMP had set up
before the Mr Big Sting started. Dax's defence team argued that they should not be admitted into
evidence because the authorisation for the RCMP to intercept and record his interactions
was obtained in violation of his charter rights. There was a quote lack of investigative necessity.
The judge sided with the defence and excluded almost all of the covert recordings of Dax's
conversations and the wiretaps of his phones but permitted the undercover RCMP officers to
testify from their memory and from their notes. When it came to the video and audio recordings
of Dax's confessions to Rory and Mr Big they were allowed to be admitted into evidence and were
shown to the jury. The jury also heard from a police witness who testified that Robert Levoit
had accrued some bad debts due to drug dealing which had resulted in him being threatened by bikers.
It was only early into the trial but things soon came to a halt as the prosecution and defence
argued over admissibility of some evidence. It was related to the privacy rights of Jay Love
and his suspected involvement in that steroid importation situation. There were no actual
charges, just allegations but they required him to resign as an auxiliary RCMP member.
He had been assured that this steroid importation situation would not be mentioned at trial
because it could potentially harm his reputation and employment prospects.
Unfortunately these legal issues caused the trial to fall apart and after a week with no
resolution the judge declared a mistrial. Dax Mack was released on bail pending a new trial
much to the dismay of Robert Levoit's family. His mother Kathleen McGahey told the Edmonton
Journal quote, our whole family is extremely frustrated. Robert had still not received a
proper burial. His remains were still considered evidence and tragically had not yet been handed
back over to his family. The second trial started much later than anticipated in January of 2008
almost two years after the mistrial. The prosecution put forward the theory that Dax Mack
had decided to kill his friend and roommate Robert Levoit because he allegedly owed him money. He was
dealing crack cocaine from the house they shared, he was running up phone bills and he was stealing
from his son's piggy bank. In opening statements the Crown prosecutor suggested that Dax invited
Robert to go hunting at his father's property but instead he shot him five times and burned his body.
One of the star witnesses was Jay Love who testified to the same version of events he'd
first recounted to Staff Sergeant Stolfer at the local RCMP Detachment that he'd been at a bar
that night with Dax and another friend Michael Argetta and after Michael took Dax's truck to pick
someone up, Dax told Jay that he'd shot and killed Robert Levoit and as they exited the bar
Dax said he burned Robert's body at the rural property his father owned for about three days.
On cross-examination Jay admitted that he had been upset when he had to resign from his job
as the RCMP auxiliary officer but denied the suggestion that his main motivation for telling
the RCMP Staff Sergeant about Dax was to try and get his old job back.
There was another star witness Michael Argetta the third friend who was at the bar
and he didn't come forward to the RCMP. Dax Mack had not only denied killing Robert Levoit
but when he was arrested he claimed that Michael Argetta was the actual killer.
The crown called Michael Argetta to testify. The jury heard that he and Dax had been good
friends for around three or four years and that hunted and fished on the rural property owned
by Dax's father. On the stand Michael admitted he had a criminal record used cocaine and had
allowed Dax to store his two firearms at his home both before and just after Robert's disappearance.
Michael also knew Dax's roommate Robert Levoit. He said they'd known each other since they were
young boys but they were more acquaintances rather than friends. On the stand Michael denied having
anything to do with Robert's death and was angry that he'd been blamed for being involved.
He testified that at some point shortly after the time Robert was determined to have gone missing
Dax mentioned that his roommate had left Fort McMurray and moved to Vancouver.
Michael testified that at first he didn't think anything of this comment because Robert Levoit
was known to be involved in transporting drugs and often left town for long periods at a time
but he soon recalled an earlier conversation he'd had with Robert who told him he'd been
transporting drugs from Vancouver to Fort McMurray but he'd inadvertently angered some people in
Vancouver when he went to arrange a big deal. Robert was concerned. Michael testified that he
was aware that drug dealers from Vancouver had put a price on Robert's head. He went on to say
that because this conversation happened shortly before Robert vanished he got the impression
that Robert had likely gone into hiding for a while to avoid a dangerous situation. Michael
continued not too long after that he and Dax were at a bar in Edmonton and described chatting at the
bar with a quote random girl when Dax came and stood beside him and said I got rid of Robbie
before tuning and walking away. Michael told the jury that Dax was the kind of guy who was quote
always shooting off his mouth so he didn't really pay much attention to what he said
but something happened the next day that changed his mind. He told the jury that on the drive back
home to Fort McMurray Dax blurted out I shot him followed by that was it and later on in the same
conversation Dax said that he'd burnt Robert's body at his father's property. Michael stated
that he spoke with Dax about the murder of Robert Levois on at least four or five other
occasions after that car ride home and that's when he learned that Robert owed Dax money.
He'd stolen from Dax's son's piggy bank and had run up the telephone bill. Michael told the jury
that Dax felt a great deal of animosity towards Robert Levois.
Unfortunately there were some issues with Michael's testimony
that didn't reflect well on his credibility. In his original statements to the RCMP after
Dax was arrested Michael insisted that Dax had never said a word to him about killing Robert
Levois. When challenged about this on the stand he insisted that he wasn't technically lying
because Dax had only told him he'd gotten rid of Robert which is not the same as killing him
but his testimony about the conversation on the ride home only served to worsen his credibility
problems. According to court documents Michael never once mentioned this second confession
that Dax gave in the car in any of his previous statements to the RCMP. The first time that anyone
had heard this was on the stand. In fact in one previous statement Michael said they only had that
one conversation at the bar about Robert. The car ride home was quiet and he said their friendship
drifted apart after that and quote I never touched the topic again. On the stand Michael testified
that the following year 2003 he became romantically involved with Dax's former girlfriend and the two
had a falling out. He said that by 2004 the year that Dax was arrested the two men officially
hated one another. The crown did admit that there were serious problems with Michael Argetta's credibility
but now it was time for the defense to present their side. Dax Mack's defense lawyer argued
that Dax never confessed to Jay Love or Michael Argetta. It was a he said she said situation
and when it came to the two recorded confessions he gave to Rory and Mr Big. His defense lawyer
argued that he only confessed because he wanted to impress the members of the crime organization
and he was desperate for money. The court heard that Dax Mack was an unemployed man trying to
raise two children and he was also terrified that the crime organization would harm him
if he didn't come up with some sort of confession to a crime. He was known to tell tall tales and
those confessions were nothing more than that tall tales. The defense's position was that Robert
Levois had actually been killed by somebody else Michael Argetta. 35 year old Dax Mack took to the
witness stand to give his version of events. Dax told the jury that the night Robert was murdered
the three men were at his father's property hunting. Apparently Robert Levois didn't actually hunt
but used to tag along with Dax and Michael on many occasions. According to Dax on November
the 6th 2002 he and Michael were getting ready to go and deer hunt at his father's property.
Robert had just returned from a trip to Vancouver and asked what they were doing.
Dax suggested that he come along and Michael echoed that suggestion which Dax said surprised
him because the two men didn't usually see eye to eye. Nevertheless the three climbed into Dax's
pickup truck and drove out to the property. Dax said that he'd brought his two rifles.
He gave his 223 to Michael to use and started walking in the direction of the game trail
with his own 308. Michael and Robert walked off together towards the road. Dax told the jury that
he was keeping a close eye out for deer when he suddenly heard a single shot coming from somewhere
followed by more shots in quick succession. Assuming that Michael must have shot a deer Dax said he
remained where he was for about 10 to 15 minutes afraid that he could potentially scare off a
wounded animal. After a while he said he headed back towards the road and saw Michael but he
was alone. Where's Robert? he asked. Michael allegedly replied quote that's what you get
for pissing off the big boys. Dax told the court that at that moment he noticed Robert lying in
the grass and went to approach him but Michael stopped him allegedly saying quote just let it
alone he fucked off to Vancouver again. On the witness stand Dax testified that Michael Argetta
was larger than him and grabbed him by the shoulder to hold him back. Dax said he didn't
know how many bullets were left in his rifle. Michael told him not to worry and he'd come
back and look after it quote shut your mouth you don't know nothing. Dax told the jury that he
dropped Michael home along with the two rifles and then left to go and pick up one of his sons.
He said when he got back home and found some alone time he quote cried my face off.
He said he didn't return to the place where he burned the body for another year or two.
When it came to Michael Argetta's testimony that Dax had confessed at the bar in Edmonton
Dax reported the opposite. He testified that Michael was not there with a random girl.
It was his girlfriend at the time a woman called Aliana and in fact it was Michael who told Dax
that he had returned to his father's property sometime after the murder and had burned Robert's
body. Dax told the jury that Michael had been acting very aggressively since the incident
with Robert and said that Robert owed money to too many people and commented welcome to my world
which Dax took to mean was the drug underworld. He said that Michael's girlfriend Aliana was
also in the car with them when they drove home and denied saying anything to either of them about
killing Robert Levois. When it came to Jay Love's testimony Dax denied confessing to him as well
suggesting instead that he only tried to tell Jay that Robert was dead and Jay must have misunderstood
him. He claimed that he even gestured towards Michael as the killer. He testified that Jay
asked him if he had anything to do with Robert's murder and he said no and when they talked more
outside the bar Dax denied telling Jay that he'd burned the body on his father's property.
He claimed that he actually said that Michael Argetta burned it there and again Jay must have
just misunderstood. Jay had testified that Dax didn't mention Michael in any part of the confession
that he heard. Dax was asked why he decided to tell Jay these things and he replied that he knew
Jay had worked with the RCMP in the past and wanted to know who he should speak to there about
Robert's murder. Dax added that he was afraid he could lose his son. Under cross-examination the
crown suggested to Dax that he was the one who had shot Robert. No I did not. The crown came back
with you'd had enough of him and Dax replied no I hadn't. So Dax denied both confessions claiming
that Michael Argetta was the one who confessed and when he told Jay love about it Jay had just
misheard him. However Dax couldn't deny that he confessed to Rory and Mr Big. The jury had been
shown both confessions and the RCMP officers involved had also testified about their experiences
with Dax as part of the Mr Big Sting. Dax Mack cried as he told the jury that he felt scared
and intimidated by the undercover officer who was playing the Mr Big character. Quote he was huge
you're sitting there talking to Tony Soprano. He claimed he had made the confession up for
several reasons. He wanted the gang to think he was a tough guy but he was also a little afraid.
He believed that the criminal organization was dangerous and that they could make somebody
disappear if they wanted to. Dax claimed that since he had met the organization's second line
members on that yacht and had seen all of their faces his life may be in danger if he didn't
comply with Mr Big's demands. Dax was also asked why he tried to backtrack after that conversation
to Rory at first saying everything he'd said was bullshit but then changing his mind when Rory
offered up a secret of his own. Dax told the jury that he only admitted he was telling the truth
out of fear and everything he told the undercover officers was quote out of a desire for money,
protection and a belief that the confessions were necessary for self-preservation. Dax Mack's family
sat silently in the courtroom as he testified all donning matching t-shirts with the words
no more Mr Big emblazoned on the front.
While Jay Love, Michael Argetta and the RCMP officers had testified that Dax had confessed to
them there were a few defense witnesses who had slightly different stories to tell about Michael.
A woman named Laverne told the jury that Michael Argetta was friends with her son
and had lived with her for four months in 2004 more than a year after Robert's disappearance.
She testified that one night Michael came home drunk and he asked her why do you think I'm covering
for Dax followed by I killed Robbie. Laverne claimed that he asked her if she wanted to know
what happened but she said she didn't want to know anything. Eventually she contacted the RCMP
to report what she'd heard. There was also testimony from Aliana who identified herself
as Michael's former girlfriend. She confirmed Dax's testimony that she was the one who had been at
the bar in Edmonton with Michael and she overheard them talking about somebody called Robert.
She said she heard Michael telling Dax not to worry that they were never going to find anything.
She said over the next few hours Michael asked her three separate times if she'd overheard any
of their conversation and she told them that she hadn't. The couple ended their relationship the
next year 2003 before the Mr. Big Sting started but in 2004 she received a phone call from Michael
asking her if she'd heard the news. For what she said quote he told me not to play stupid and then
he told me not to get him involved in anything and if I did he said he was going to I don't know
come after me or I was going to go down as well. She said that it was common for Michael Argetta
to use threatening words towards her. In closing arguments the Crown told the jury that Dax
Mack knew details about the murder of Robert Levois that he could not have made up. In total
four people had testified that Dax had confessed to killing Robert and burning his remains at his
own father's property. The court heard that the evidence suggested Robert owed Dax money
and Dax felt the only way he could deal with Robert without risking retribution was to kill him.
The defense maintained that Dax Mack was not guilty and it was actually Michael Argetta who
had killed Robert Levois and as for his motive the defense asserted that he wanted to collect on
the bounty that he stated had been put on Robert's head. The jury found Dax Richard Mack was guilty
of the first degree murder of Robert Levois. As the verdict was read aloud he began to sob as he
held his head in his hands and muttered oh man it wasn't me. His family nodded vigorously.
At the sentencing hearing Robert Levois family presented victim impact statements speaking of
the grief they experienced since losing their son and how his death had affected them. His
sister Maggie lamented how her brother had missed her wedding and then the birth of her son who she
had named after him. Robert's mother Kathleen Megahi said quote surviving the loss of a murdered
child is one of the cruelest tests of human endurance and sanity a parent can experience.
To remain sane and alive is an accomplishment. Dax Richard Mack was given the automatic
sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years. Outside the courtroom
Robert's father Monty Levois praised the justice system for the conviction adding that Dax Mack's
own family were victims in the tragedy as well. He noted though that they still had the advantage
of being able to visit their son albeit in prison but theirs was dead.
Three years later in 2011 Dax Mack appealed his conviction on several grounds. His legal team
argued that his confessions given to the undercover RCMP officers infringed on his rights and shouldn't
have been admitted into evidence. The Alberta Court of Appeal determined that the trial judge
made no errors when admitting it. Another argument was that the trial judge did not properly instruct
the jury when it came to interpreting the testimony of Michael Argetta a witness with
credibility problems who could be considered an unsavory character and who Dax continued to claim
was the real killer. The Court of Appeal determined there was no basis for this argument and that
the trial judge's instructions were adequate. And there was also a motion to have new evidence
investigated from a recently obtained statement that came from Michael Argetta's former girlfriend
Aliana. At trial she had testified to overhearing Michael tell Dax not to worry because they were
never going to find anything and then she was grilled about whether she overheard.
Her new statement was about Michael's testimony about the drive back from Edmonton
where Dax reportedly blurted out I just shot him followed by that was it. As you'll recall the
first time that Michael ever mentioned the second confession was at trial and it contradicted his
previous statements given to the RCMP which included the detail that the car ride home was
quiet. Aliana's new statement was consistent with Michael's earlier statements. She said that she
was also in the truck with the two men on the drive home. She was awake the whole time and no
such conversation ever took place. Dax's lawyers argued that this new evidence needed to be evaluated
but the court of appeal found that it was not strong enough that it could have affected the
result of the trial. In fact even if Michael's entire testimony about Dax's confession was
not admitted into evidence it likely wouldn't have impacted the three other confessions that Dax
Max had given to Jay Love and to the undercover RCMP officers. All four confessions described the
same motive for killing Robert Lavoie. All four specifically mentioned the detail that Robert
stole from Dax's son's piggy bank and all four confessions also made reference to burning Robert's
body. But two years after Dax Max's appeal was denied another Mr Big Case would come before
the Supreme Court of Canada that would change the admissibility of confession evidence obtained
from Mr Big Stings. The question was would this Supreme Court ruling also affect Dax Max's conviction?
We know that Mr Big Stings were first used in British Columbia in the early 1990s
and by the end of 2008 the RCMP claimed that they had executed 350 separate Stings in Canada.
According to the 2010 book Mr Big Exposing Undercover Investigations in Canada by Joan
Brockman and Corey T. Keenan 75% of those cases resulted in the suspect being charged
and of the cases that went to trial the suspect was convicted 95% of the time.
So in theory the Mr Big Sting appears to be a highly successful investigative tool and there's
no question that it has been very instrumental in catching some very dangerous offenders.
But in practice the unique circumstances engineered by the Mr Big Stings can result in
people confessing to involvement in crimes that they might not have committed. Often a suspect's
personal circumstances make them vulnerable to a Mr Big Sting and when they don't have much to lose
they're especially vulnerable to threats from Mr Big to yank away the benefits they've come to
rely on unless a confession is offered. One example is a case we've covered earlier this year the
drowning deaths of Newfoundland twins Karen and Krista Hart. Their father Nelson Hart essentially
claimed that he drove the three-year-olds to a secluded cove to play next to the water but
they both fell in when he wasn't watching and because he wasn't able to swim he couldn't save them.
There was some questionable post-offense conduct that put a target on Nelson Hart's back when it
came to the RCMP but he also had unique personal circumstances that not only may have explained
that conduct but also made him especially vulnerable to a Mr Big Sting. Nelson Hart had
only reached a grade five education which may have had an impact on his judgment and critical
thinking skills. He was dealing with ongoing health issues he was unemployed on social assistance
living in poverty and led an isolated life. Nelson Hart had no friends at the time he was
approached by the undercover officer playing the BFF or Rory character but soon he was being
showered with friendship camaraderie more money than he'd ever imagined and respect.
In the Mr Big Book authors Brockman and Keenan examined 81 cases where confessions were extracted
via a Mr Big Sting operation and found that in 23 of those cases the confession alone was the
key piece of evidence and in fact without that confession there would have been no other basis
for a conviction. This was the case with Nelson Hart. By the time Mr Big threatened to remove
him from the gang unless he confessed Nelson had received enough money from jobs he'd completed
with the gang to lift him out of poverty and he sincerely believed that he had made close friends
who respected him. Nelson Hart confessed to Mr Big that he pushed his daughters into the water
intentionally and went on to give several additional confessions to other undercover officers.
The RCMP presented these confessions to the Crown as the smoking gun that Nelson Hart was
responsible for the deaths of his daughters and the prosecutor ran with it. The problem was
the details of his confessions were inconsistent and would change depending on who was asking and
what kind of pressure they were applying. For example Nelson told Mr Big verbally that he
struck his daughters from behind with his shoulder but during a recreation with another undercover
officer it was evident that this could not have happened because the three-year-olds were way
too short for Nelson to have used his shoulder to push them in. So during the recreation he used
his knee to demonstrate and in that case because there were no witnesses and no other evidence
other than Nelson's post-defense conduct it was his confessions alone that resulted in his conviction.
Nelson Hart appealed and the case ended up before the Supreme Court of Canada in 2014
who released a historic ruling that found Mr Big undercover stings posed serious risks to the
justice system on three different fronts. There's obviously a danger of false confessions and the
fact that the suspect knowingly joined a criminal organization could be viewed by the jury as
evidence of criminality and subtly influence their decision. There's also the potential risk for
police misconduct in their attempts to get a confession which threatens the integrity of
the justice system and the fairness of trials. Critics of Mr Big operations argue that not
only does it infringe a suspect's charter right to remain silent but it also contradicts the
common law rule that confessions must be voluntary to be admissible in court. So how have Mr Big
stings been able to get away with providing incentives or threats intended to motivate
a confession and then get that confession entered in evidence? Well it's because of a legal loophole.
These two key protections of a right to silence and that a confession must be voluntary only
apply when a suspect is in custody or when they believe they're confessing to someone who was
in a position of authority for example a police officer. Now in the case of Mr Big the suspect
is not detained when they confess and they do not know that Mr Big is a police officer so
those confessions have been permitted. But in 2014 the Supreme Court found that quote
the law as it stands provides insufficient protection to accused persons who confess
during Mr Big operations and ruled that those confessions are now presumed inadmissible in
court unless subject to further qualifications. Going forward trial judges need to consider the
extent of both the incentives offered to the suspect as well as any threats that they'd been
given and when it comes to the suspect themselves their own mental health and level of sophistication
must also be considered. When it comes to the confession trial judges will also need to take
an in-depth look into the level of detail provided and compare it to other evidence to find markers
of reliability. For example did the suspect give any key details during their confession that only
the person who committed the crime would know? When it came to Nelson Hart he could not be
considered a sophisticated suspect and none of his confessions passed the test when it came to
markers of reliability. So the result of this Supreme Court ruling was that his confession
was not admitted as evidence which resulted in his murder charges being withdrawn and that's not to
say his confession was false just that it didn't have enough markers of reliability to convict him
based on that alone. So after the R. V. Hart Supreme Court decision came down Dax Max legal
team appealed again arguing that his confession should also not have been admitted into evidence.
His defense lawyer filed a document with the Supreme Court that read in part quote
the psychological manipulation and trickery in a Mr Big Sting is real and potent it would be
wrong to assume that the police are not in control in such situations they are effectively bringing
the full power of the state into an accused's personal and private life. She argued that Dax
had felt threatened by undercover officers and felt there was no alternative but to make the
confession up quote Dax had been led to believe that he knew the location of the organization's
warehouse, knew personal details about and could recognize members of the organization,
knew where Mr Big's apartment and boat were in Vancouver. He had also been told by both Rory
and Mr Big that they had committed murder in the past and the enforcer character had also
warned Dax that he would be dealt with if he failed to protect Rory. The Supreme Court of Canada
upheld Dax Max murder conviction, ruling that the confessions he gave to the undercover officers
were admissible as evidence. A large part of it is those markers of reliability.
All four of Dax's confessions contained the same motive for killing Robert Levois,
right down to the specific mention of the detail that Robert stole from Dax's son's piggy bank.
All four confessions also included reference to burning Robert's body at Dax's father's rural
property. And unlike Nelson Hart, Dax Max's confession to the undercover officers resulted
in important physical evidence. After confessing to undercover officer Rory, Dax immediately led
him straight to the fire pit where Robert's remains were still lying undisturbed. As you'll
recall, Dax had testified that Michael Argetta had killed Robert while they were out hunting.
He told the court that he'd heard several gunshots, waited for 10 or 15 minutes,
and then saw Robert's body lying in the grass. But when the remains were recovered, investigators
also found five shell casings, indicating that Robert had been shot at the fire pit,
which was not consistent with Dax's story. And those shell casings were then matched
to a rifle found in Dax's home during the search after he'd been arrested.
Dax Max's confession led to and was corroborated by additional evidence,
but Nelson Hart's confession did not. The Supreme Court also looked at the inducements
or benefits offered to the suspect in each of the Mr. Big Stings. During Nelson Hart's,
his Mr. Big meeting came after he'd already been paid a total of $15,000 plus expenses.
And after he'd had another carrot dangled in front of him, another big job coming up that would pay
him another $25,000. But there was a catch. Mr. Big had to approve his participation.
And what did Mr. Big want in exchange for that approval for Nelson to earn $25,000? A confession.
But with Dax Mack, the RCMP officers had offered him a much more modest payout,
a total of $5,000 plus expenses, only a third of what Nelson Hart had been paid.
And Dax's final confession to Mr. Big was not under threat of losing a large payout or specific
job. The Supreme Court found there was no improper conduct committed by the RCMP officers
and an abundance of evidence that confirmed Dax's confession.
There's a reason why Mr. Big's sting operations have become one of the most controversial
investigative tools in Canadian history. They can crack cold cases wide open and ultimately
serve justice in the eyes of many, but they can also result in a complex set of circumstances
that can lead to abuse, misconduct and false confessions. Unlike the Nelson Hart case,
the case against Dax Mack held water, and the two cases have been compared to each other
many times as part of legal analysis. Nelson Hart as an example of an unsuitable target
for a Mr. Big sting that was found to be an abusive process. But the case of Dax Mack has
become a kind of poster child for how a responsible Mr. Big sting should be run with an appropriate
subject. Despite the restraints placed on Mr. Big sting operations from the Supreme Court of Canada,
public opinion on the controversial investigative tool still remains very polarized today.
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podcast for research and writing in this episode. Emily was also responsible for episodes 103 and
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