Castle Super Beast - CSB 007: No Nipples Podcast

Episode Date: February 19, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Have a good evening. So, this is the beginning of a podcast. This is where we start speaking. Oh, I gotta turn off all my sound on my phone. Make sure don't ring a ding. This is where we start speaking and creating content for entertainment purposes. Possibly educational. Possibly educational, but usually not educational. I wouldn't say so sleepy.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Oh, you should have some energy in a can. Oh my God, I need energy in a can. Oh, that energy is delicious. That's a lot of energy. Oh, I don't know. Right here in this can. Oh my God, and it's sugar-free? What?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Dude, that's crazy. Wow. I can't believe it. I'm not supposed to have sugar. Well, I mean, no one's really supposed to have that much sugar. Tell me more about the sugar-free. Okay, hold on. I'm going to look at the back.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I'm going to look at the back. Okay, hold on. Only five calories? That's crazy. Sucre, glucide, zero. Stain gros zérousse, or goose egg, protein, zero. Wow. I mean, what you're describing.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's got a shit ton of vitamins in it. Sounds too good to be true. That sounds ridiculous. Cheers to that. Oh, I hope we never run out. Nope. It tastes like e-sports. Oh, this gives me the strength to go to SF5 tourney and beat a time-traveling Blanca player.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Let me just... Oh, you need a new one? Oh, yeah. Let me just... Oh, it's so good. Oh, you're careful there. We only have seven of those. Okay, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We almost lost a case. Wait, seven? We must have eight. Must have lost a case there. Yeah. Things don't come in odd numbers like that. That's stupid. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Don't worry about that. Well then. Hi. Now that I'm energized, we can properly start the podcast. Let's have a podcast. And I know exactly where to start the podcast. Do tell. Last week on this very podcast, I said something, as I often do, because I'm speaking about
Starting point is 00:03:08 50% of the time. We were talking about Apex Legends, and I made the claim upon being asked, do you think Apex could ever beat Fortnite? I said... You did make that claim. I said, I think that would be ridiculous, because Fortnite has so much momentum. But I could see Apex coasting to a comfortable number two. Although the quotes were, I believe the quotes were, had a lot more exclamation marks and
Starting point is 00:03:32 question marks at the end of them. Possible. I think by the end of that sentence, Apex totally eclipsed Fortnite in a shocking way. In viewership. In viewership. Out the gate, numbers. Whoa. Were there 30 million now?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah. I mean, they still have to conquer 200. Yeah, sure. But I don't think Fortnite had fucking 30 out in today. Within a week. Fuck. Wow. That thing's moving.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Sure is. Respawn is now in the position of the thing that killed Respawn. Yes. And I have, you know, it's funny. I haven't played Anthem, but I've done a lot of research on Anthem. So I'll have something to talk about on that. Respawn is now in the exact same position they were in after Modern Warfare 2 came out. The funny thing is, they have the biggest game around.
Starting point is 00:04:35 They actually, here's the question, right? Did they have the resources to self-publish this? I doubt it. Right? Then they would just become their own giant. I don't think anybody has the resources to self-publish something like this. Even if Apex was the same game, not having the EA money means the outreach would have been less. No, what I mean is, is like, you touch that game and you feel the money.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You feel the hundred passes. But you also feel the Titanfall. Yeah. But what I mean is you feel the hundred passes they did on the map, the 35 variations of the slide mechanic. Because time, because time. The disconnects that happen when you're down to the final three. So I want to talk about the game's technical stay. I talked a little bit about Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So let's be clear. Well, you've been playing a lot of Apex Legends. I've been playing a lot of Apex Legends. I've been playing a lot of Apex Legends. It's a great game. I'm up on Origins. The bugs are, I don't know if they're Origins specific or not. Some are.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Some aren't. But this, this game is the hottest shit in a while. Everybody's doing it. I'm on the PS4. I got friends doing the same. They're hopping off Origins to PS4 because they can't hang with mouse keyboard people. But whatever. Oh, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:05:58 You know, on PS4, you don't even need a plus subscription to play it. Yeah. But apparently on the Xbox, you do. You do. Which sucks. Yeah. That's a free-to-play concession. There's no smart choice there.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's a, that's a fucking, you get everybody in on the Mario and Duck Hunt. So, boy, boy, this game is hot. But there's a couple of weird things about it. One, it ain't stable for shit. Crashes all the time. Disconnects quite often. The worst disconnect problem on the PS4 for me is not, as you describe, uh-oh, people drop in the match.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's loading into the match was like, oh, I'm playing a solo queue. Okay. Gonna, gonna run this by myself. Okay. That sucks. I would infinitely prefer that to happen to me than what usually happens. Then the stolen win. Which is the delayed disconnect after an amazing match.
Starting point is 00:06:50 That's not good. After fucking like, uh-uh, fighting out of a situation and getting down to being one of the last groups and basically having a, like, the body is in the death zone. Yeah. To go retrieve it and zip line back out and have the kits ready for healing over here. Yeah. Like, literally that type of scenario, uh, just occurred and then we readied up and we're about to hit that final three, or final two rather, and fucking drop, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:21 And then another game where late, late, late game, four squads left, final drop. Like, I fucking get these delayed ass drops. That's not good. That hurt. I know exactly who to blame on that. That's Origin. For sure. You know how I know?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Cause I went to uninstall Apex Legends off my PC this morning cause I'm like, oh, I'm, I'm pro, I'm gonna be playing this on a console, period. Gonna uninstall it. Origin crashed every time I opened Origin and I couldn't even get to it. I had to restart my fucking computer. Could be worse. Could be a game that doesn't delete its actual files, just the executable. Oh!
Starting point is 00:07:59 I'll leave all of you to guess what game we're talking about. Shoutouts to Lee First, resetting the clock on the 76 uninstall. So that's not just bad because, that's not just bad because it's annoying. That means the registry shit doesn't get uninstalled either, which is messy. Yeah. You don't want a messy registry. No. So in Apex's case, yeah, that's, that could be some Origin shit going down.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Weird things where I'm getting messaged. After that happens, by the way, oftentimes it's followed up by a prompt that says the party leader has dropped. Yeah. That stays for probably the rest of your session. That actually does legitimately feel like my experience with Titanfall 2 on Origin. Okay. That feels like a network thing.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah. So that fucking is annoying. On the PS4, instead, you get just hard crash. Yeah. And twice now, I've had crashes that required me to unplug my PS4 from the wall. Wow. Like hard locks on the console. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Okay. And then the PS4, I hate this, I guess this is compliance or something. It has the audacity to tell me, hey, make sure to shut your shit down properly. Yeah. This could screw up your hard drive. Motherfucker, you made the mistake. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:19 That was you. The only other thing I notice often is the character select bug where two people are in one group, two people are in the group, the third person lags while loading in, and then they get in before the game starts, but really, really late, it just defaults to their default choice. Okay. And like, it's not bad. It's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:09:41 No, it's really not that bad. It defaults to their default choice, and you get some weird audio things that are out of sync because the music hasn't had a chance to become that big swelling theme that it does. But usually by the time you hit the game, ready to drop, everybody's in and it's fine. But like, yeah, not that bad in terms of every other thing, but these drops suck. I've been able to troubleshoot the nature of the PS4 crashes. It is related to something to do with their voice chat.
Starting point is 00:10:07 When you turn on the option that is turned into text, if someone fucking speaks, the game crashes, and when you turn on the party chat. That clearly is not a reproducible consistent issue. I have been eight every single time. Okay. I did it on PS4. I had it work. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I've never had it work once. But it was trying to turn Spanish into English and it was failing to do so. Every single fucking time I had that option on, I crashed the instance somebody spoke, and then you go to party chat and make your private party, and then that crashes the game quite often as well. The only time the game doesn't crash for me is when I listen to the 12-year-old yell at his parents. It is not worth it.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I would rather have the game fucking crash. Yeah, I'm in Discord, so I'm avoiding that entirely. Man. Man, that game is hot. It's got stuff and fun. It's interesting because as you say that friends are making the exodus over to PS4, I'm getting more comfortable on PC. I'm getting more comfortable actually helping.
Starting point is 00:11:24 When there's no lifeline on the team, I'm hogging those ultimate accelerants and I'm air striking motherfuckers and trying to land a ninja star on you because if you get ninja stars you're fucking dead. Those are awful. I hate them. You're crazy. You're crazy and you suck. No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I mean, I hate what happens here. Okay. I'm like, if you think they're awful, awful isn't getting hit with them sucks. Oh, it's the worst game ever. It's like a little May you can fuck people. I was about to blow you the fuck up because those ninja stars are amazing. No, you throw that on a door. The door is now completely impassable.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, they're great, they're great. Yeah, just the swing of things, you know. I remember when I was like, wait, what ammo type goes with what? And then now I'm like, okay, now it's like, oh, there's three. Right, sorry, four. And then the really, you got to get really the efficiency of like in that first area, especially just grabbing everything and then while you're sprinting to the next thing, throw the rest out.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah, grab it all. Grab it all, sort it out later. Yeah. And I've also broken myself with a habit of like, don't pick up attachments you don't need, no matter how good that fucking attachment is, unless it's like a precision choke or something like that. So I was going to say, I was going to say that like, you say that, but a couple of good games have been me picking up Skullpiercer or Persistent Choke holding on to it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Skullpiercer and, Skullpiercer, Persistent Choke and the thing that spins up devotion. Yeah, because you're just three. That's what I'm saying. Keep those. You're going to find yourself a fucking, if you find yourself a prowler, if you find yourself a devotion or a wingman, you're going in and it's going to hurt and like I was practicing aiming with the devotion a little bit more while that's on and you basically just treat it like a laser.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah. You know, a lot of that stuff is like, yeah, no, walk with that because if you find a wingman, you're going to want to switch to that. No, those always keep them because it turns the fucking peacekeeper into a sniper rifle. Select fire. It's actually wild. I can't believe that it turns the wingman into a sniper rifle that does the it's the best gun ever.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Well, it turns the fucking devotion into a laser minus the, the Mastiff and the gold guns, the gold guns. That being said, I think the Spitfire is probably the hands down best gun in the game overall. I have killed entire teams twice now with one clip. Spitfire is my, my heavy of choice and wingman as well. You know, personally, yeah, I really enjoy those. But again, there's a gun tier list out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I think the Mozambique is actually not as bad as the P 20. Mozambique is a shotgun that doesn't kill you on an emptied clip. It's also highly accurate. So the idea, but if you were up close and you emptied the clip into someone's head, they would not die. No. If you, if you hit them with two and a half Mozambiques, you can melee them to, you can melee them down.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh my God. Okay. I guess. Unlike the P 20, which requires like its entire clip twice over. So we play the game. I don't know if I mentioned it last week, but it's a, yeah, I think I did just first to tag it. You did first to tag that Mozambique.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So how do you save it? How do you fix it? Dual wield, pick up a second Mozambique and now you're Reaper. Yeah. Maybe you can get that going, but it's a shotgun. I foresee that does it fucking kill you. I foresee what are you doing? Weapon changes or slight weapon updates incoming at some point.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Not, not to make Mozambique good, but to make it kill you, let's awful then let it kill you. I've seen players run at me with a Mozambique in between us and choose to melee me instead. Dude, like you can't get a knock with it. Like what do you do? And so you have to basically, anyway, um, it would be, yeah, that I would be, you know, wield it with all the reload time. It would be surprising to see it not get some sort of update.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But as it is at the moment, it, here's the other problem. The class of gun that it's in makes it worse than it is. Yes, because the class of gun it's in has one that's pretty good and one that is arguably the best gun in the game. If you pick up a fucking Ava or you or anything, it's fine. If you, you know, you pick up the Ava, you can do your thing and like those bullets are worth more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 In that, you know, so like, and then you find a piece, peacekeeper, great, you're those that the whole bullets are worth more in that. So you're literally wasting valuable bullets inside the fucking Mozambique. Yeah. I don't like it. Apparently it's, it's named after a kill pattern, which is two to the one in each long and one in the dome. Ironic considering it doesn't kill.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Damn. Anyway. Seriously, that gun of shit. Um, I've had all sorts of great moments. I was going to say, speaking of kills. Yeah. Like I had a great moment too. Yesterday I got my first final shot of the match.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Oh yeah. That's good. I got my first like, I'm the one to do it. It was me. Yeah. It was fucking great. I had two or three last week that were like, I'm downed and then I downed a guy. Like I did it, but like I win the match like on the floor, which is not really cool, but
Starting point is 00:16:51 I also got one or two, which is just like, I shot him. It was, it was me. You ever pick, you ever play around with that golden equipment? The Kramer feels like a trap. It feels like a trap for me. How so? It feels like, look at this golden gun. It's so amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Oh, it's like, you might as well point it towards your own head. Oh, really? Fucking die. Okay. So that thing is a thing of beauty because as you know, you line it up with the head. They dead. Yeah. That's the end of that.
Starting point is 00:17:28 The first part of that is the problem. Yes, it is. And if you line it up center mass, you're doing pretty good. Yeah. The, the for real problem I have with that is the, that this is a game that like the sniper rifles have, they're not hit scan. They're not hit scan for shit. They have travel time and significant bullet drop.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And I saw a guy and he was 230 meters away. I'm like, God, he wasn't even moving. And I shot at him and it hit the floor like 50 meters in front of him. I'm like, Oh, I mean, if you, it's interesting like seeing how much aimed on the lights affects things because I didn't realize it. Other first person shoot. I didn't know if other person shoot other FPS's are the same. I assume they are.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But like the wildness of the spread on certain guns when you're not ADS compared to when you are just like, like, I guess it's useless. Makes it completely worthless. Yeah. And I guess the alternator is the one that it doesn't. Yeah. I had my favorite kill so far, which was me sliding down the hill into the valley behind a lifeline with both of us hip firing or alternators at each other.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And I came out on top and I was like, Yeah. Um, the mastiff on the other hand. Fuck. Use range finder. It actually measures distance. Interesting. The mastiff. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yes. Yeah. But what? But I also, I didn't say golden weapons. I was saying golden equipment. I have not gotten any golden equipment. Dude. The golden equipment is so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It's in some cases questionable. Like, I'm not going to say busted. I'm not going to say OP, but I'm going to say OD. I'm going to say OD for my New York people. Okay. Um, golden backpack equals take that progress bar and remove it because it's. Thirded. What?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Any progress bar. Oh, so heels. Heels are now turbo. Turbo. So like Phoenix heal in like two. Kids are instantaneous. Oh, not instantaneous, but they're really quick. That's cheating.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And that's super cheating. If your lifeline, the stack of how fast you heal shit is on top of that thing. Just stand in it. So lifeline with a golden backpack is I don't have a progress bar. I see. Um, that's awful. Right. I have the golden knockdown shield, which I'm sure you must know about by now.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I heard if you see somebody, I heard something and I didn't believe it. If you see somebody with a golden knockdown shield, that motherfucker is getting back up because it's a self res. That's so run up and start just putting as much damage. Put it all in. Yeah. Right. If you see someone with a golden body armor, any, any, um, this one's not as useful, but
Starting point is 00:20:25 it's like any executions refill your shield. That. Okay. I get it. Right. Cause the idea is that as long as you survive the execution, you'll come out of it with a full shield, which is a four bar shield, I assume. So it's basically like, yeah, use the whole thing, spend that time, hope that you don't
Starting point is 00:20:44 in the process and come out with a shield, which I'm like, eh, you know, maybe don't do that. What about the helmet? Uh, I don't know what the helmet does. Uh, and I, yeah, that's those, but those are the three that I, that I have that scene and experience so far. Um, there's like these, those things that cut like the, the high, the drop golden shit or the, the shit that's in the high tier zone, the hotspot stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Like if you get that and you know how to play. Apparently helmet is your alt charges quick alt. There you go. That's, there you go. So it's the other two that you mentioned. So I'm saying if you have a team that's hoarding golden equipment, Oh, that's a win. Like you are making it to the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:21:26 No problem. And like, unless you fuck up, that should be yours. You know, assuming every, everyone's playing properly, that should be yours. It's fucking. I find it really interesting because the way that looting in this game works is that the likelihood of encountering that shit increases the farther you go into the game as every, every team you drop has better and better shit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah. Uh, when you, when you bring people back late game, find a body coffin, not a looting room or whatever. Uh, golden barrel stabilizer negates all recoil. All recoil. Aim at the dot, hit the dot. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So that's nuts. You know, that's cool stuff that's in there. Uh, that you. I gotta say, especially after playing like a bunch of PUBG and some blackout, like the system they have for attachments in this game, just like bam, bam, bam. Like, click, like instant. Switch it over, pop it up, pick up a new gun. Transfer all your shit to this new gun.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Super fast. Absolutely. Um, yeah. There's occasionally I still, I'm still not, I'm still picking up some wrong attachments and thinking they're, they're compatible with or not.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah. I'm picking up a sniper stock for, you know, light weapons and such. So that, that is still occurring. But for the most part, having a good old time with it, uh, developing some like feels for, um, like repeatable strategies. Uh, which I shan't go into. You tell me those words. I shan't go into.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I think it, can I describe an unrepeatable strategy? There's two. Sure. Dropping early is a death sentence. Yeah. Like it's for people that, that's for quick play. I want to, I want to bang, bang now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Right. Um, if you drop and the number on that thing is 30 or higher, you are going to die in five minutes. Yes. It's wild. Uh, if you drop ship or our hot zone immediately underneath the drop ship. If you, people who drop on the line make me want to die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And I do. Yeah. Here's the one argument in favor of dropping instantly. What's that? Uh, currently, how good are you at killing people? Fairly. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Okay. Would you like to get better at that? Yeah. Drop in immediately and learn to kill. So my problem practice mode is not training mode. It's dropping instantly. My learning how to fight. My issue is that if I weren't able to get a gun, I'd have no problem.
Starting point is 00:24:07 My issue is that half the time I drop in immediately. Yeah. Somebody else gets a gun before me and then I'm fighting, I'm being meleeed by, meleeed by two people and being shot with one person. Now granted, they're shooting me with the Mozambique. Yes. Oh, it's not, it's, it's a mess, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:23 But what I'm saying is that like the average game that you play like properly and quietly and then eventually moving up, engaging, choosing not to engage sometimes, sneaking around and playing the circle will get you further into the game and is the right way to win. But for just learning how to deal with engagements at all, dropping into that hot zone immediately forces multiple fights and you just get practicing. Acclimation of the things I already know about like Call of Duty and stuff like that into this new system. I saw this fantastic breakdown on Reddit of what makes Apex different from nearly every
Starting point is 00:24:58 other shooter that's currently popular on the market. Yeah. In terms of its time to kill. Yep. And. Takes a while. Not only does it take a while, it's actually, it's like closer to halo than anything, really. You got a big old life bar to get through and then you got a garez to get through.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. And you got a team you got to kill before you can, right? Yeah. I think that the number one big change is that it's not. It may lead to a kill you right away. It's not about TTK. It's not about time to kill. It's about accuracy per kill.
Starting point is 00:25:28 So in Blackout or PUBG, right, and even a little bit in Fortnite, but not as bad as the other two. Say you have a full clip of 30 rounds. How many do you actually need to put into somebody for them to just fucking die? Yeah. Like five? Right? The minimum required accuracy is like 25% of the highest, right?
Starting point is 00:25:53 In Apex, you, if anyone has a shield, you can dump the entire alternator into them and they'll probably still be alive. And that's after every single bullet in the thing. The average accuracy required per clip on like unarmored or even it's like 60% or higher, which means you need to hit the people. So again, it sort of depends like with most of the heavies. If you hold the full clip on them, that number is going over 200. That's generally what you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And or with the wingman, you're just getting that 45, 45, 45, you know what I mean, whatever. But yeah, no, there is a really high percentage of a chance in this game that they're going to keep moving and find some cover before you get that kill. If you are inaccurate, you will finish your clip and they'll be alive and they'll be running away. However, if you're engaging properly, there's probably two of you engaging on one. You've got grenades and arc stars flying. You've got ults popping.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You've got Bangalore's acting like Sonic on the fucking battlefield. I didn't realize how fast they moved until I played. Tracer. It's crazy. It's tracer. It's wild. You don't realize. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So fast. Yeah. No, no, no, Bangalore with that thing is really, really, that's a great passive. But yes, all that to say that for me, at least, I've been basically ping ponging. Yeah, I've been messing around with everybody. I've played a bunch of Gibraltar. Oh, no, I don't mean ping pong and I'm set in my character choices. I play according to the design that I like and I was Pathfinder and then ultimately
Starting point is 00:27:41 despite the grapple, I just couldn't get it done. Pathfinder's grapple shenanigans are like there's multiple levels. The base level to just get a huge jump is trivially easy to do. It's super, super easy. You get the swing of it fairly quickly if you try to practice using it while traversing regularly when you don't need to. People with Mirage just bamboozle all day because why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But they're all sucks. But what should we call it? The thing with me, though, I found was just that once I'm doing Gibraltar and I'm like, I like this character, this design, what he does, what it's about. Regardless, I'm going to play him because of that. But obviously, that's not the way to fucking always win if you can do something better to help your team out or so. What if you play?
Starting point is 00:28:37 But I enjoy. Randoms and somebody picks Gibraltar. Then I had, then you need to have an alt ready. Yeah. You need to have two? Yes, exactly. In which case, I'm going to go back to Pathfinder or probably do Bangalore, probably. But yeah, it feels like a waste, though, if the person with the best accuracy
Starting point is 00:28:56 on your team is not playing Bangalore, though, feels like a waste of a slot on you because you should be getting kills with that thing, running forward, getting into fights, picking motherfuckers off and just running out. I'm fascinated to see what new here, what legends are likely going to be added in like three weeks. Yeah, yeah. I've been, like I said, I've been told to hold on to my points and spend them. Costic and a rush suck.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Spend them on the new one. They're not good. I, but at the same time, we had a fight that ended because we got pushed into the base indoors and we couldn't get out because Costic was grenadeing the fuck out of that hallway and we fought for too long and then another group snuck up on us. I have a pro tip for everybody that doesn't like fighting against Costic. His barrels have a big yellow area.
Starting point is 00:29:49 The bottom. They also have a red ring around the bottom. If you shoot the red ring at the bottom, the barrel explodes harmlessly. Yeah, you can blow them up. But either way, I can see myself holding on to those points to see what comes. Yeah. Got myself a legendary Mozambique skin, though, right? I got a legendary peacekeeper, a little.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's the green one with the glowy shit on it. Yeah. I actually like quite a bit. Well, so yeah, we kind of sidetracked the game so good. I just want to talk about. But like I've been talking about this and I'm asking people about this. Did I talk about the game getting kicked out the door early last week? Possibly.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Well, it feels like the game got kicked out the door early. And then I went and looked and apparently the one a player is asked, hey, how come there's no weapon stats in the game of any kind? The response from the devs was like, game came in too hot. There was no time you're not referring to the counters on your profile. I'm talking like there's no like when you look at the weapon, there's no way to check with the actual damage of the weapon. And it's just very OK.
Starting point is 00:31:03 OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, sorry. Yeah, right, right? And it's like there's actually that not that many cosmetics in the game at all. And that that legend screen seems fucking super empty. Yeah. And it's baffling as shit that the game didn't launch with the battle pass because that seems like the most obvious thing in the world. We, we, you know, we'll never know or maybe we will eventually.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But we don't know why it released in such a sudden hazard of fucking gas fashion. I suspect this game was supposed to release later in March or maybe even April, right? And that, you know, the time that they say all this shit's going to be ready by. And that the reason why I kicked out early is have you seen this anthem shit? Have you seen this shit over the weekend? Oh, it's bad. I heard it's way worse than Destiny One was when it came out.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I heard it wasn't cracking thirty three K on Twitch and some struggling. Like I follow Skill Up, Quiet Shy and Brozeem on Twitter. And I know Brozeem follows me because he was talking to me about this. And all three Skill Up was a guy who was like championing this game. Like it's going to be the new shit. And he's just dumping on it for like ten tweets in a row. The I'm watching videos of the game just on fire falling apart. So I saw two things.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I saw the Jurassic Park video where flying into the world, it all just pops in and it's a reproducible. So Eli, one plague of gripes, sent me a Reddit link from the Anthem Reddit in which a guy who does all sorts of hard drive shenanigans, he's got some kind of weird setup, discovered that the game is reading hundreds of gigabytes of data per hour off your drive for some reason. And it appears to be that the game just constantly loads assets in and out for every single area, even if there's common assets.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He described walking from one end to the hub was loading entire like tens of gigs of hard drive data in a memory the whole time. It's built on the Andromeda engine, right? I believe it is. An engine that we all know to be high quality. Well, the other thing I saw and I mean, this was a this is a story in the week, to be honest, but it was just the seagull video of them fighting the final boss on Twitch and a level three player
Starting point is 00:33:51 joins by doing quick play and goes, Hey, guys, what's going on over here? And they go, oh, God, oh, God, run, get out of here. Yeah. No, don't be kid. Get out of here, kid. And he's like, what? No, this is the final boss leave. And he's like, OK, and then he leaves and then someone else that's like level two or whatever jumps in.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah. And they go, oh, geez. And then that guy sticks around and then they're like, I guess quick play can bring you to the end of the game on top of that. I saw people talking about how the fucking final cut scene crashed for them and then loads them into the hub and there's no way to look at it. So they had to look at the final cut scene up on YouTube. No, that's a particular that's a that's a personal knife twist on. I was a content knife.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Twist shy. If you go to the story, you got a quiet, shy as fucking YouTube channel. She just posted a video of a cut scene in which every model is like distorting like Halo nightmares and everything is just fucking breaking apart. Like the game is on fire. Oh, and everyone, everyone, everyone is constantly disconnecting. Like it is just the least stable thing ever. So this demo was more stable.
Starting point is 00:35:01 The demo was more stable because less people were playing it. Like it is an active bomb. The game's not out. Oh, you mean Apex was dropped like a bomb prior. Yes, and set post demo. I genuinely feel like the reaction was, is is Anthem going to be ready to go? No. Can Apex launch right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Hit the button. Hit the button. Right. Or release the button. I can't, dude, the timing is so fucking. It's so specific. They've been planning Anthem's fucking release date for years, right? But they've also been clearly planning
Starting point is 00:35:56 a fortnight killer for a long time. That could have come out fucking whenever. That doesn't matter. Nobody knew about the game. There weren't even rumors about the game. Literally nothing that could have come out in April. And everyone was just like, oh, yeah, respawn, Titanfall three. All I can in my chest and I, you know, maybe someone out there can
Starting point is 00:36:18 right, call me. But all I can see is this friscal. Anthem is not going to do the numbers it was needs to do for the quarter. Hope that's hope. Anthem does the numbers. So we're going to take this Q2 thing and move it to Q1. And sure enough, their Q1 is going to be just fine. Now you'll be just fine.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And they can get that battle pass out in mid March and that'll go on into Q2. Hey, Fortnite, though, new season, get it free. Yeah, why not? Competition is good for everybody. Get it free if you do the thing. Bioware is so fucking dead. Bioware is not going to exist in two years. That company is gone.
Starting point is 00:37:05 This is depressing to Pat. I see I I I imagine a hard swerve into a different direction. I think I don't think I don't think they're actually going to die. I think they're going to swerve. You think they're going to just get turned into a mobile studio? No, but I think they're going to swerve towards other games. I don't know, man, because like I like Visceral is a company that I really liked at EA and I saw them do Dead Space.
Starting point is 00:37:34 It was great. And I saw meddling into Dead Space, too. But that worked out really well as I'm meddling into Dead Space 3. And that did really poorly. And then I saw them get turned into a company that makes god damn maps for Call of Duty or Battlefield, whatever fuck company they work for. I can't even remember now. And then they got disintegrated.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Well, right? Unless something unexpected happens, I guess. But also, I mean, Willie Mastin fact, Andromeda came out right fucking, I don't know, one of these over there or whatever, right? Um, that shit doesn't exist anymore. Fucking Bioware Montreal. And this is going to be a way bigger fucking bomb than that. Yeah. Again, reason to believe, you know, reason to believe stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:24 But, but I think the most damning video I saw is skill up putting out his video like, look, I got a masterwork, which is the equivalent of an exotic weapon, right? It's like the big, fancy, unique weapon as a grenade launcher. And he's firing it and the grenades don't explode. Ouch. They just. Fall out of the gun and sit there. Yeah, this game is not ready to come out and it's coming out in a couple of days. Yeah. Um.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Again, like, no, yeah, I don't know. I like it might there might just be a fucking a cliff, you know, but I imagine the dot on the map is greener pastures, not in the Elysian feel sense, but in this, in the sense of like swerving, swerving to other stuff. I would, I would, to everybody out there, the Falls video game news, I would keep your eye out for high level staff, departures at Bioware. Sure. Because that signals that everybody knows
Starting point is 00:39:32 that the fucking axe is coming. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. You know, maybe they'll ride at the mountain and see if they can turn it around. And then once that's done, then the process will begin. But that fucking joke. Yeah. Rumors on the winds, though, you know, I remember the very first time I saw the real gameplay at Anthem, I was like, oh, my God, this looks so fucking bad.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And it doesn't look much better than what we saw like two years ago. Um, yeah, that is true. A lot of folks did leave, actually. Yeah. So, yeah, that being said, so what I what what I meant when I said ping pong was actually that I've been ping ponging between Battle Royale games. Oh, yeah. Well, oh, yes. Because I would play a game, couple games, Apex,
Starting point is 00:40:24 not get a chicken dinner. Yeah. Feel like I want some chicken. Jump on over to Tetris. That's correct. Get me some chicken. Mm hmm. And that game made by Erika. Really? Believe it or not. Surprisingly, Erika. Really came up with something
Starting point is 00:40:47 interesting with depth and plays and styles and decisions that you have to make while still playing Tetris. It's all going on as you do the Tetris. Yes. And it's so interesting because it tells you nothing and it explains nothing. And it basically, you know what Tetris is, but the actual on the actual 99 mode has no
Starting point is 00:41:17 tutorial, no explanation of what's happening. It doesn't tell you shit. All I know is that there's a D pad looking button up at the top that says like score and KO choose what to attack. OK, right? That's all that is. But like every week comes with or every day comes with new tech and new things people are learning about the game to the point where now, like what from what I understand, like
Starting point is 00:41:42 what I understand about the game is so different. And the way you have to play, like playing smart to win involves a lot more than just picking one, sticking to it and just playing really solid. That is the most important thing of all. But I would compare it to like having. Imagine if you had like really, really amazing aim and you were playing Apex. Yeah, no matter what gun you picked up, but you didn't know the map and you didn't know the guns.
Starting point is 00:42:10 You fuck. So that's knowledge is going to win there, right? So some fun things that, you know, you have where you're basically like you're playing a balancing act, right? Because you can do moves like you can kill as many people as possible to buff yourself up with badges, right? Every time you get a kill, you get a badge. All right. Every time you get a badge, you send more garbage. Oh, fuck, that's OK.
Starting point is 00:42:37 The more badges you get, the stronger your garbage becomes. When you have when you have a couple badges and you do a clear of like whatever, of like a Tetris, it sends more than a Tetris over, right? It's awful. That's really awful. If you do like combos instead, your combos start stacking higher. And there's even a point where you can you can do the math on it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And men found this. But you do a combo up to like, let's say you had a 15 chain. Yeah. And after that 15 chain, every single line converts to nine lines of garbage. That's a lot of garbage, right? So endless trash. Yes. Is the name of the game and you want to actually combo it. You want to sometimes alternate between
Starting point is 00:43:29 comboing and stacking high, right? You want to alternate between getting yourself in the red zone where people are going to start targeting you and picking a few targets off and then switching to just defense. It sounds like a genuinely fascinating idea because Tetris by yourself is an ongoing game game of defense, defense against time and the pieces, right? And this is no, no, fuck you. Let's just assume you can handle all the defense in the world.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yes. Use your defense to kill. Yes. The other thing is the pace of the match is dictated by those who rule it. Yeah, I've seen so I watched some some games, some winning games. And it's like whoever the three or four strongest people are are dictating the entire. This is what. So here's the actual thing. All right, there are five people that influence the match at any given time. The rest of you, 94 of you or 93, I should say, are. Or 90. No, 94.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah, I'm correct. Ninety four of you are chaff. Yeah. And what's happening or points to be earned is every once in a while, while you're when you're targeting people and you're you're feeding off of these off of the chaff. Yes. You encounter one of the five and then you start fighting each other and you go, oh, disengage, not the time is not later. The time is not now.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I have not amassed enough power. I have not accrued enough badges. Kill more mobs to get more XP. So when you have an early encounter and you see that stat coming, oftentimes it's possible that you're just too weak at that moment and they got more kills than you. But when you see these moments where you lock eyes with the true enemy, yeah, you need to disengage if you're not if it's before the 50 percent mark,
Starting point is 00:45:25 right? If it's before the half point. Yeah. And so those happen and you have to fucking swerve off and head back to devouring souls, right? You. Yeah. The apex analogy is like you shoot at somebody and they turn around and you can see they're all in gold and not yet. Not yet. No, we're going to go kill some stragglers near the edge. And so you you you swerve off and then you you go on you go on the attack,
Starting point is 00:45:51 you know, and then you basically also can choose to slow down at times, right? And here's the thing. If you go on the attack the whole time, you're going to eventually devour our and go nuts and just kill a bunch of people really, really quickly and get the game to the halfway point. And you'll be finding yourself in that top 20 to top 10 with pieces falling still relatively slow, right? OK. And by slow, I mean fast, but not as fast.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Not the instantaneous, not it's not instant drop. Yeah. Right. If you play passive and just keep yourself surviving, which is what most people are doing, the game will enter the halfway point with instant drops, OK? At which point people are not even worried about attacks anymore. They just can't keep up with the flow of that's a good time to kill people. But also now fighting in the not the stopped time, but the accelerated time. Yeah, which is another Jojo reference, of course, for those who know,
Starting point is 00:46:50 fighting within the accelerated time, way harder against motherfuckers that have your number than it would be in a slower times. Right. So if you want to stand the best chance and you're confident in your ability to fight them with slower pieces, you need to speed the game up by killing the chaff faster so that when you arrive to fight these people, you have the game moving at a speed that you're comfortable. Very significant meta game you're describing, right?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Whereas if you lame it out in the beginning and everyone else lambs it out and you're a pace center, if you're one of the five, then you slowed the whole game down to the point where people survived longer. They're going to die when that speed up does occur. But it happens way faster. And it means by the time you get to that final five, fucking made in heaven, like the idea is that you slow it down. And then when they are all about to die, you just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam,
Starting point is 00:47:48 like ten in a row. Say that again like the idea is that you've slowed the game down so that more people make it to the halfway point. And then you just like swing the scythe and take out just a ton at once. Well, it'll happen naturally at any ways, right? But by playing slowly instead of just aggressively killing people and aggressively targeting chaos, especially, you're going to have less badges at that point.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So you won't also you'll also be underpowered going into it. So this feels like more of a philosophical idea. You have to choose how and when to go a full aggressive, passive aggressive, full on passive. Like people are going to have styles of play. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. And again, there's been those moments where I'm targeting one person and I switch to another.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And the moment I switch to the other, the garbage stacks on my side. And I'm not yet that that's the one. I'll come back for you. You know, it's a transform this into proper Battle Royale terms. It's the difference between getting decent gear and sprinting to the fucking dead center of the map and waiting and getting the good position, but maybe not the best gear and waiting in the circle instead of scraping the outside of the circle
Starting point is 00:49:12 and just eating up all the good gear from everyone you have to kill, but then advancing into people who have a good position. But here's the thing, though, right? What I described is just one way. Yeah, what I've also done and what you can do is sometimes if you're feeling yourself and you find that God early, you go for it. And if you can get rid of them, and if you kill that God, you get all their badges
Starting point is 00:49:37 because everything you killed is now mine. Earn your badges. Now I've got your power. You see what I'm saying? There's a meta game here. I saw I've seen it's so good. I seen some talk and the one comment that stuck out to me was that Apex and Tetris 99 coming out like this,
Starting point is 00:50:00 like Battle Royale is not a fad. It is a new genre and it is just starting. Yeah, like I would even you think for a second that like we made our wrestling game, Battle Royale idea. Remember that? Yeah. Fuck that Tetris. Yeah, fucking Tetris, motherfucker. The the the fact that like now multiplayer is just going to.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And here's the thing, like two of these have come out and have swayed me hard into this. So now, ultimately, all we're doing is is just us being late to the party. Let's be real. This is just us being late to the party pub. Yeah, I guess you did. I didn't. But I mean, I was like, no, we didn't know what pub G was. Yeah, but then I was on, right? Paige got her fucking chicken dinner before I did. And then fortnight and so on and ultimately just being in the space
Starting point is 00:50:50 of things that we don't care about or whatever. But but what I was going to say is this is basically like multiplayer games are now everybody at the same time with one life, as opposed to a few people with multiple lives. It honestly has a lot of benefits. Did you have a disastrous match? Don't worry about it. You're in the next match. Right, sure. A lot of tweets and messages basically echoing the sentiment that Iron Spike put out there, which was
Starting point is 00:51:16 Tetris 99 taught me there's an entire rolling under roiling underbelly of God tier Tetris degenerates that have been unknowingly training for this week their entire lives. I absolutely love that scrub quotes is now pulling out people just screaming about like I loved when Tetris was just a fun little puzzle game to play. But now these motherfuckers tea spinning and doing all sorts of eldritch shit. Yeah, like, yeah, and people have had almost 40 fucking years to get good at Tetris guy, having a good time watching
Starting point is 00:51:48 Twitch streamers get destroyed by accounts named Eileen and love my kids 72. You know, like it's super dope. It's great. It's absolutely great. So all that all that comes together to a fucking head where it's like, yeah, you know, like JJ over on stream with Max is being like, yeah, I'm at like 17 or 18. I'm like, oh, JJ is a beast. I like that. I like how you, you know what I mean? Like people are just out there silently being Tetris gods.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And you just don't know it until something like Tetris Effect comes out, you know, or Tetris Puyo Puyo Puyo or whatever. And in this case, now you prove it. Now you prove it. And I'm like these latent abilities that I haven't this this sword that was hung up, you know, like a decade ago thought that like Tetris is like with a couple of exceptions, you're showing off your Tetris mastery has been more or less relegated to check out this video of me
Starting point is 00:52:47 clearing the invisible bullshit variation of this super hard version of Tetris. Right. But now you can go out and kill. Yeah. Yeah. And you can kill a lot. You kill 98 people. Yeah. I know where I'm at personally, like it's it's it's just like fighting games where you're like once you know, you know where you're at. The more the more you learn, the more you know how much you don't know. I would probably say you're probably way better at Tetris
Starting point is 00:53:14 than you are at any fight. Um, the thing is, is that I now know how much I don't know. And what that means is I know how to play the game at breakneck speed, but I'm still just playing the game. Oh, I don't. All right. I don't have setups. I don't have formations. Oh, right. I don't have foresight. I just have next hold and plan and solving on the on the in the moment. Fast, right? People that are consistent with it.
Starting point is 00:53:48 People that are actually beasts with it understand how to. See a shape by seeing the next four upcoming. Yeah. And turn it into something. They turn it into this nice, careful, constructed little block over here. Right. That would work with the L or if you never thought about those extra, that extra list of what's coming, then you don't even know what I'm talking about. When I play Tetris, the piece shows up and I go, oh, oh, where? Where that's where that's me playing Tetris. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:20 So that's me at instantaneously. Yeah. Every single piece is aware, aware, aware, aware. That's all it is. And I've just gotten used to that. But I know that to actually take it one step beyond to go further into lose your eyebrows. Oh, yeah, to go to get white hair. I need to actually check and shake. And you do what you do in advance chess, right?
Starting point is 00:54:44 You memorize opening patterns and formations. I have to memorize them. I have like one T spin set up. That's the one that Min put in the thumbnail for the video that I put up on Rolly versus, and that's basically a like sacrifice the rest of your game to just hope you get a bunch of T blocks in a row. But otherwise, yeah, it's just reactionary. It's really fascinating because all battle royales, all of them have.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And I saw people complaining about this, the person we know that always complains. But people in Apex getting mad that they lose matches because they get killed by people who can shoot them before they're able to find a gun. Yeah, that's the number one complaint. All shooter battle royales is I couldn't find a fucking gun. And I dived into the hot zone. I died to a guy who had a gun. I went to where the light was and I thought that's where I was supposed to go.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Right. And like. And then you look at Tetris like, oh, Tetris is all skill. Are you crazy? Tetris is completely random. Tetris is 100 percent luck in what comes up on that screen. Right. Am I not wrong that what the next block is going to be? What, do they all come out in a set order?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Is that what you're telling me? The next block is based on what has not appeared. OK. So it's it's not set in stone. Pat, that's that's the wrongest it's been. No, old Tetris, like on the Nintendo, was actually completely random. And that's why it had problems where, like, you could not expect a certain piece at any given time because it was pure random. You could actually never get a solid line.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. Right. In this game, every piece will come eventually within a rotation. Yes, that's what I'm saying. And in a BR, there will be a certain number of guns within a radius. Right. Is that how that works? Yeah, there there's a there's a loot pile and there's always going to like in a big area. There's certain things are not like a high tier zone will have a certain amount of purples. That's all random roles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But I imagine it's based on color, not necessarily gun type. There's if in a large area, there will always be at least a couple guns. Like we know the Mozambique is everywhere. Yeah, we know Wingman is everywhere and lower tier shit will roll more off. And you're not picking up a devotion to often. Right. So like, say you drop in the marketplace, there's at least two guns in there, guaranteed. They might dog shit, but there's a gun. Right. I get.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I don't know BR rules, so I don't know like what that distro. Right. My point is. But Tetris is not my point is, is that the wall, it has to be to a degree. If it's not random, it's random in the way that Smash Brothers random select is random, where the people that the characters that have not been chosen will show up more often. Right. But it's weighted weighted. Yeah. Yes, it's weighted. Yes, weighted randomness is what we're talking about here. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yes, there is a lot of folks, particularly those who don't like BR, who like they want to remove all randomness thing. I saw what might be the worst suggestion I've ever seen a Twitter conversation between me and Eli at Planker Drive, in which a guy is like, you should in Apex every gun and item should spawn where it spawns so that knowing the map would be more important. Someone said that. Yeah. OK. And I'm like, that's insane. Is you ruin the game? That is that game is ruined.
Starting point is 00:58:08 You ruin the game. Because then it just becomes everyone just right to that one spot. Yeah, it's the worst. They're neat. There has to be an element of like kind of a gamble of risk. Yeah, that's that's ridiculous. I mean, I imagine like maps, maps are being introduced. Like when I learned that like, oh, these games run on one map for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Yeah. And then maybe they eventually introduce a second. It's a MOBA idea. It's like, whoa, really? Because in every other game, you learn 10, 15 maps and they add four more maps later. Right. Yeah. And then the map changes on the sequel. It's a it's a MOBA idea. And that MOBA idea comes from soccer or football.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And I remember when people when Dota 2 was blowing up, not Dota, but Dota 2, because there was lots of new people coming in. There's all this. Where's the new maps? Why is it always the same map? And the answer that always came back is what? You change the fucking pitch and soccer every year, too? No, the map is the fucking map is the field is the play field is the place.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Now, the shooters, PUBG added a new map. OK, but the map in in the map in soccer is the map in fighting games. It's a box. You're fighting. Yeah, exactly. And so it is in Dota. OK, it is a box with very clearly defined lines and very clearly defined spots with enemies and the layout is as least random as possible. And like similarly in a fortnight, but for a change is this map a little sometimes for their events.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah. And the your PUBG and your apex, the physical geography of the location will not change. No, so there is there like the point of like that person saying that is out of their minds and doesn't understand how games work. However, yeah, the sentiment that they would come to if they probably were to work the thought further is the one we're at where you're like, no, don't guarantee the same gun in the same place, but guarantee high quality items in the same area.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah, so that you you can go there, but it's not a guarantee. Nothing is ever guaranteed, which is what I one of my favorite things that I really like about apex is that you drop into an area and says, there's decent stuff here or there's trash here or there's really, really good stuff here and that one spot on the map that always has golds. And then you have the moment of, OK, we are alone. No one else is. Wait, shit, one team's behind us. Do you guys want to stay on course or diverge?
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah. Right. And then you choose to fight it out or not. But yeah, all that to say is that like in Tetris, though, when you're at the top of the map serve and you're playing to survive, you're you're playing to wait for the fucking the straight block. You know, like you're waiting for that to me, no, because you know, it's going to come. You just have to stall for X pieces until it happens. Tetris 99 is the most bare bones experience
Starting point is 01:01:18 in terms of how it looks and what the content is. And it's just this free thing. Yeah, you look at it like it's Tetris. But that meta is free. It's free. How do they make any money off it? You have to be a Nintendo online. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fucking big claps.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Oh, you can't sell a game like that. You need people populating those servers. You need 100 people per game. Yeah, the game's free. Wow. If you've got online, then yeah, that's it. That's a value. So ultimately, that's and that that also exactly. You're not spending any money in it on anything when you're going to get
Starting point is 01:01:54 a fucking Tetris loot boxes to change the colors of the fucking whatever. You can change your change your Tetris skins in other games. But you know what? I don't want to because the colors equal things to me. Yeah, I know. Like I enter. I see purple. I know what that is. Yes. I see green.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I see an L block. You know, you know what you're looking at. But the you mean the S. Anyway, the they must change. It's fine. The the the meta of the game has been super well thought out and like behind the scenes, they've clearly worked out this interaction in a way. And I want to I imagine they probably had like a group of like
Starting point is 01:02:39 a couple hundred people that they went through testers with. And I imagine they kind of had like the skill levels almost numbered. Bring in the fiends and then went. All right, play it this way. Let's see what happens in this game. Everyone play it that way. See what happens, you know, and so on. Because you take a bare bone games like that.
Starting point is 01:02:56 You have all the time in the world to throw people at the meta. Yeah, yeah, you do. And and it's it gets right to it very quickly. But it also has a level of online interaction where it's not unlike journey where you're playing with strangers until the final readout. Until you see that ranking list that you there's no. Yeah. You don't know what you're like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:20 Like it's not like, oh, that I know that name. Oh, that's like sometimes you load into an apex match and it's like, oh, the champion is a famous streamer, right? I have all that shit permanently turned off. Sure. Every single character in my game is Bangalore. 1702, player, player, gibberish number. I don't care. Yeah, though, I did have an incredibly bizarre scenario
Starting point is 01:03:43 where I was trying to play controller and somebody said, hey, yeah, Peeve plays with it and I loaded into my next apex match. And sure enough, I was on the guy's stream. Oh, OK. And embarrassed myself. There you go. I like seeing fun names sometimes. So I turned them on.
Starting point is 01:03:58 But yeah, while streaming, you can just cut that shit out. Because also stream sniping is a possibility that people do. And that's the one thing too, is that like they got. Yeah, the guys had to explain to me that like, no, people will watch your stream and they'll see your position based on like other people you killed and then they'll go, oh, I'm in the same match. You know, well, like the actual definition of stream shaming, stream shaming, stream sniping, which is not what I thought.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Like in fighting game terms, it's like, oh, I'm going to come beast on you on your stream. In FPS terms, it's I'm literally going to use your screen to peak. In apex, if you don't turn that stream remote on, it becomes trivially easy to see if you're in the same stream because your champions are like, oh, I'm in the same. I'm in the same game. So it is vital that you turn that shit off.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember back when Paige was playing a game of PUBG, although they can probably still look at the stats and figure it out. Paige was playing a game of PUBG and she found out. Sorry, a viewer realized they were in the same game, got into a truck, went to where she was hiding in the house and started driving in fucking doughnuts around the house she was hiding into. And then drove away.
Starting point is 01:05:09 That's a fucking other level, man. Oh, wow. Stream trolling, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dark souls, stream sniping is for real as well. Oh, because I've streamed Dark Souls. Oh, dude, we know like the area you're walking into has the fucking things popping up. Like, yeah, hey, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I turned the stream on and this place said it wasn't populated. But as soon as the stream turned on, it's like it's max population. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My favorite version of that, of course, being Atlas Games, where sorry, ArcSys Games, where you sit down at the arcade cabinet and everyone makes a cute little line up. That's cool. So fun. So before we move off of Tetris 99 and Apex, did you see the updated tower chart?
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yes, with yes, it's the best. When you shoot your enemies, do they turn into a tower? Yes, are you happy about it? No, Fortnite, Apex. No, but yes, Tetris. Yes, and yes, so good, so good. I'm very happy that I shot that guy and he turned into a tower. It's great. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So the other thing. No, he don't need to super dwell for too long on this this week. But yeah, just more R.E. You know, and games, good. You were there. I was there. I saw it. Got to got to get to the end of the first part of Leon and make the transition to. The sewers to the sewers to the character switch that was unexpected.
Starting point is 01:06:48 You had 20 years to learn about that character. Those were in the original to the character switch that was unexpected. And to the gameplay switch as well, very much so, you know, to the mechanics. That's new for sure. And that's where I just started getting fucking shit on hard. The Ada switch is where suddenly all the stuff that I figured out with Leon, that I was scraping by, ultimately, I was playing fast and loose for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:07:20 And then tight and high and tight afterwards. I would say so. And then once I once I got high and tight, I was then running really, really, really, like dangerously close to being having, running out of ammo to zero. But the game would always have you just find that next. And then they give you Ada and Ada straight up doesn't have enough resources to deal with the southern intersection.
Starting point is 01:07:43 So, yeah, yeah. So I got through most of Leon's more or less intact and then switching to Ada where I'm like, oh, I completely misread what this was going to be. So those deaths occurred and then fucking Mr. X and all that stuff. And now I now I fully, truly get it. So I want to take a statement that you made last week or maybe it was on the stream about Mr. X about Mr. X to task, which is essentially that he has been
Starting point is 01:08:15 memed into oblivion for you. Yeah, I'll never be able to take him seriously. I will never be able to take him seriously. Hard cut to you. Guess what? Going straight into panic attacks. Guess what? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Guess who doesn't care about being taken seriously. Mr. X. Yeah. Like, like you were, you were going into full panic every time you heard stomp, stomp, stomp. I had a very, I heard about Mr. X 20 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And I had a very different perception of what that was. Mm hmm. I thought that was a passive but slowly closing in threat that was there to make sure you didn't take too long playing the game. Mm hmm. Um, I thought it was basically like, uh, the punishment for being idle. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Uh, I, I thought it was a, a, a, an ongoing mechanic that you'd more or less continue playing through the game at a normal pace in the back of your mind. Right. It's a normal pace, but every once in a while you will hear a little bit of music and then it'll be like, uh, oh, hurry up. Right. It's your timer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:22 I thought your timer was a character. Yeah. It's a rolling boss fight throughout the entire cast, the entire police station. Yes. And you have seconds before he catches up to you. Mm hmm. And many, in many cases, um, that final stretch is, is not the back half of that like section, it's a boss fight.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah. And it's a boss fight with no win. And you just got to make it out of there. Yeah. By connecting the dots of what remaining puzzles you haven't solved yet. Mm hmm. That was a very different thing. And so the ultimately, I know it was a little more aggressive than you anticipate.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Yeah. Yeah. I expected this was going to put the fear of God into me. I mean, I guess I mentioned though, I'm like, yeah, I get that this is going to be a pace changer, but I didn't expect the speed of that. I didn't expect the speed of that pace, you know, or the fact that it was like, Oh no, he's everywhere. There's nowhere safe.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yep. Well, except for that one. Few, there are a couple of rooms that he won't do. But will he hang out outside the room? Yes, he will. So that you got to leave eventually. He'll hit that he won't hit any safe room. He won't hit the star's office and he won't hit the clock tower room.
Starting point is 01:10:32 But if you are in a room with one door, you'll have to go out eventually. And he's there. He'll be around. Around. Okay. He doesn't stand in front of the door. In addition, people have done a wide variety of tests. Oh, I'm sure they have.
Starting point is 01:10:47 He is always searching for you actively. His, he is an active presence on the map the whole time. Yep. Standing still or walking. Nothing. He will just have to go through his regular routine and draw and find you. Right. Running causes some kind of large radius around you that if he's within,
Starting point is 01:11:12 he will hear you and aim towards you and still continue his search path. Gunfire. So his tracking gets better when you run. Yes. Okay. A lot of enemies in the game actually hear you by sound, not just the liquors. Okay. Gunfire will tell him where you are at that second and he will go there.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Now you can move before he arrives, but shooting will cause him to show up. There was a guy was watching that was doing like a RE2 style myth bussers. I'm sorry. I don't remember his name, but he basically went to, he lost Mr. X on the east side of the police station and then he hid in the library. He just stood in a corner, took him, Mr. X, 10 minutes to find him. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Okay. What if he went to the library? Same save, same everything ran around in a circle, took Mr. X, four minutes to find him. Okay. What if he shot his gun three times? Took Mr. X, 40 seconds to arrive.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Okay. Okay. But you are in a police station that is restocked with enemies and new areas that have enemies so you cannot avoid firing your gun. And he doesn't sprint ever. No. He never slow walks either. He has a brisk determined pace.
Starting point is 01:12:32 He's power walking. He's power walking. And that, I guess it's the tracking that slows him down. Yeah. The peeking in and out, seeing if you're there. If you use like a out of bounds shit, you can see him actually checking rooms. So like he opens a door, looks inside, he opens the door, moves through the room. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Or he'll walk in and then turn around and then walk out. Okay. And just actively and he does move faster when he knows where you are. How much better is that than the Mr. X from 20 years ago? Mr. X from 20 years ago was a pseudo random, but not actually boss fight that would happen seven or eight times.
Starting point is 01:13:09 It was meant to make you feel like he was chasing you. I remember you told me that. But he wasn't. He was actually highly scripted. You knew exactly where he was going to be. And the reason why it felt like he was chasing you is because he never showed up in the a scenario. But now in the B scenario, you're going through an area, bam, through wall,
Starting point is 01:13:24 bam, through wall. There he is. There he is. There he is. Over and over and over. So him showing up here at all is a surprise. He is much, much closer to Nemesis now. Nemesis used to travel through rooms after you.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Mr. X original did not. You hit a door and he's gone. Okay. He is fascinating to me as a piece of game design as just like fucking move. Oh, go. No, no, this is an unkillable enemy. Well, this is a game that represents a very small number of chess pieces that
Starting point is 01:14:02 are very, very, very highly detailed for like AI and pathing and behavior. Like you're like less than 20 assets in an entire in terms of like characters. Yeah, zombies have the zombies have a thing where their heads and their torsos and can be somewhat mixed. Right. So there's the fat zombie, then there's the fat zombie that's a black guy. And then there's the that version of the zombie. But there's a fat, you know, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah. So they mix and match. There's maybe 12 totals on the zombie. Yeah. So there's one liquor type. There's a dog type. There's one later enemy. Sure.
Starting point is 01:14:48 There's Mr. X. There's there, you know what I mean? That you have their behaviors all super intricate. Yeah. So you're looking at a really low number, but they're really, really highly like developed. And not a lot of games do that. So that's really cool.
Starting point is 01:15:02 That's really interesting. That's the most interesting thing I'd say most games have, you know, wide variety enemy types to do one thing, one thing, right? Character action games will have a mixture of both. Yeah, they'll have a wide variety of enemy types that do one thing, but they'll also do two things, but occasionally include an enemy type that is a very specific detailed encounter. You know, it'll have boss fights, you know?
Starting point is 01:15:34 So yeah, that was that was really interesting. I just love the idea of dropping a boss fight that you can't win on you when you're trying to play the rest of the game. And the Mr. X sections last about half hour, maybe 45 minutes. Well, faster. They're it took about half hour for the same thing for me. They're perfectly paced. It's not like an hour, two hours.
Starting point is 01:15:58 That would be too much, right? That'd be outrageous. And they only drop it on you once you've become familiar with the area you're in. It's fantastic. I feel like the Aida sections became actual puzzles. Yes. Which I really, like I said, did not expect. And the fail state is quite instantaneous.
Starting point is 01:16:19 It's like, Hey, Dad, did you not solve the thing? So did you not start solving the thing right away? Yeah. Claire has a section where it's a stealth section and it's the same thing. Do you know the solution? Good. You're done in like a minute. Do you not know the solution?
Starting point is 01:16:34 Die. On replay, those sections are like so fast. There's no variability in the middle. Exactly. Exactly. So that's why that's why ultimately I'm like, I don't feel too, too robbed by that. Like I'm like, I made an I like I tried to outsmart the game in points where I'm like, Oh, turn that, turn that door off and it'll shut.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And it's like, no, that's not what that was. That was the solution. You're like, OK, guess I'll die. Yeah. You don't have enough room to move around in that section. Though I did manage to shuffle around that desk real nice. Oh, yeah, that's what you do. You know, so that's why that's there.
Starting point is 01:17:12 OK, OK, there's a certain point in the game where if you played it a couple times, Mr. X becomes kind of hilarious because you can loop him around desks like forever because he's not faster than you. You're actually quite a bit faster than he is. Right. Of course, I also know that dogs are always going to fuck me up. I at this point, you need to be highly accurate to hit them at this point. Like I'm like, like liquors have done me less damage than dogs have.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Yeah. Dogs are in groups are a problem, you know, and I feel like I'm going to. Probably now that I've got the mag, just spend that shotgun bullet. Knifing liquors to death is real satisfying. I imagine, but I'm so scared of that. Yeah, it's scary. How many how many swings you got to take on that 15. And then but once it's active, basically, the deal is that you sneak
Starting point is 01:18:11 up on them and you slice them in the head that will cause a stun. Every time you slice them in the head, they're crossing the stun, but they won't like move their position. OK, so you just got to time it right and just slash, slash, slash, slash, slash. Yeah, saves a shit ton of ammo. I imagine, I imagine. Yeah, five shot and tells, you know, fair enough. So that's cool.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Um, anything for you? Um, played more or played R2 Ghost survivors. This is a free free LC that came out for Resident Evil 2 alongside the hilarious 98 costumes where you turn Leon and Claire into polygonal fucking abominations. Ghost survivors is what if scenarios? What if Kendo survived? What if Elizabeth Warren survived?
Starting point is 01:19:05 What if ghosts survived Elizabeth Warren character from seriously? What? No, no, no, that's the wrong one. What's her name? The Mayor Warren's daughter. Kathleen, I have no idea. But there's a politician named. I know, Warren. That was a fucking weird thing for Kathleen.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Can't forget a fucking Karen, I forget. Catherine, Catherine. There you go, Catherine Warren and what if ghosts survived, which is one of Hunk's teammates, they are essentially. 12 to 15 minute enemy gauntlets that are super fucking tough. And each of them introduces a new enemy type, not seen in the base game, which is actually fairly interesting. And they have these weird segments where there's zombies with backpacks
Starting point is 01:20:00 and you kill the zombies and they drop loot. And then there are fucking Pez dispensers that you pick one item out of. Does karma still apply to those modes karma? The oh, no, no, they are set because I was going to say, like, if you shoot a zombie and it doesn't pop, no, no, they are. They are locked at some difficulty level because they are tough. OK, and they each take place in a different area. And they're a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:20:26 There's a fourth unlockable one, which is playing as the sheriff from the gas station. And it's kill a hundred invading zombies of all the different enemy types in the gas station. Jesus Christ. And it's fucked. That's that's nuts. The bodies all stack on each other like they just explode. OK, we're moving. But it's really cool. It's very short.
Starting point is 01:20:48 I beat the whole thing in like two hours. I didn't beat the last one. I'm not going to bother. It's pretty cool. Nothing crazy about it. It's a nice little extra. I hope there's like the new enemy types they added in particular. I really hope that if if and when they add a randomizer to the main game that they roll those enemy types in because it's
Starting point is 01:21:11 it's zombies that explode with poison when they die. It's zombies that are regenerators. They're just regenerators. They regenerate super fast and you have to destroy them quickly. And then there's special forces members that turn into zombies. So they're like head or chest and arm are all armor plated. So you have to shoot their arm or leg.
Starting point is 01:21:34 All of that. And I tell you what, I still don't miss Las Plagas. Those the way they pop. Yeah. Yeah. That was like, I mean, I eventually think did I ever know it was always a trouble? It was always a trouble when it was like, God, damn it, you had to be one of them, didn't you? And then they start fucking.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Yeah. Yeah. And there's the one that the instant kill that one wasn't great. Yeah. I don't like that face you're making. What? The face that says, I know things about RE4. Yeah, I do. No, like, I don't know what's coming. That's what I was thinking about.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I was thinking about for regardless. I'm remembering older conversations. I know I still have yet to encounter some sort of plant asshole. That's correct. We'll see what happens. That enemy was completely changed. Has no bearing in any way to its old variation in the old games. Which I have no info on anyway. Yeah. They were literally fucking plants.
Starting point is 01:22:37 They were like ferns that were dead that would like spit at you. Do they look like green herbs? No, that'd be silly. But whatever, the game is silly. On top of that, this morning, I just woke up early and I was like, fuck it and played like three, four hours of guacamole to cool. You know, that game soundtrack is amazing. Always was.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Well, the first did you play the second one? No, the first ones was really good. The second one is amazing. It's wow. Second one feels great. There's a bunch of new chicken powers. The story is really good so far. They turned down the meme shit from the original.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Multiplayer or single player? Four players. Yeah, what did you do? Oh, dude, I was fucking 5 a.m. OK, OK, OK, OK. Game's great. Yeah, that is like guacamole. Yeah, guacamole, too, is the shit.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Yeah, I made I made soft plans to to play that. That game's awesome. Probably going to probably going to record it. Probably going to probably going to record that. Yeah, the. The fucking intro of that game is it's the final boss fight from the first game. And then fucking what's his name? Mariachi Skeleton asshole goes.
Starting point is 01:24:01 What is a luchador, a miserable little pile of secrets? Sure. And it's like, are you? Oh, you. You assholes. Yeah, when did it come out? Oh, like a little while ago, a couple months ago. OK. I thought I was keeping an eye on that, but I guess not. But yeah, I hope the skin still works from the old game.
Starting point is 01:24:21 No, the woolly skin, the woolly skin. I probably doesn't. They might need to make a new one or I could just, you know, use G.A. Oh, really? They really push the mexaverse aspect of it. Oh, yeah. Are you familiar with the setup of the game? Of two, no.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Of two is that everything's great for Juan and the family. But then shit's going down in the darkest timeline. So the game is taking place in the darkest timeline in the mexaverse. OK. It's fucking dumb. Combat improvements. There's more skills to learn, and the chicken has a way. The chicken has its own combat tree now.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Sick. It feels good. I beat the first one. I don't remember purple enemies or white enemies, and they're here now, and it's an interesting diversion. Every single enemy encounter I fought, there have been very few that are like, just fucking fight the dudes. They've either been, here's a new enemy type,
Starting point is 01:25:24 or the environment's kind of weird or use the utilize the levels puzzle gimmick while fighting these enemies. Like they've all been like distinct combat rooms that have like some kind of twist on them. It's pretty great. Cool. Yeah, I really want to try that. I'm very interested in seeing another drink box game as soon as possible. They're great. Although they took their time here.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah, I just it's like. Don't don't forget about Severed. I will always forget about Severed because I'm never going to play it. Never. It was a decision. Yeah, it happened. Yeah. Um, pretty much it for me. I don't really I played a bunch of Apex, some guacamole.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Yeah, I also got some more ink time in. So I'm in tattoo recovery mode because I want to say we're at a solid 55 percent is quite the endeavor. I'm going to say about I'm about 55 percent of the way through. Oh, no. Woolly, all my deliciousness just fell. All your delicious Red Bulls fell down. The nectar of the gods.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Let me place that back where it needs to go. We have to drink those so that we're good at eSports. All right. Well, then. I I. Yeah, I hit. I hit the top area right high spine coming up to the neck. And there was with the with the wide brush for some thick outlines. So that was a good tie up while you talk and get another of these delicious nectars from the fridge. Sure thing.
Starting point is 01:27:02 So the. The interesting thing about about about the the tattoo bit is obviously the size of it makes a huge difference in terms of how much you feel it, how much it tingles. That's what she said. But you pretty much this is one of those times where you sit down and because you know the moment that it's going to start, you're really, really waiting for your body to kick in those good old chemicals
Starting point is 01:27:29 that that good old endorphin to keep that to get you naturally high. Basically, you're waiting for it. Like this is one of those times where you actually straight up like fucking like you're you're expecting it any minute now. And when it kicks in, you're like, oh, there it is. We're good to go. You know. But yes, slow, but steady progress is make is happening.
Starting point is 01:27:53 And I I'm very excited to finally reveal that when it's done. But only if it's at the top of the millennium building tower tower. Doing it. The real the real test, Wolves, is you have to learn. I said, I think I said this to you before. Last time your tattoo came up, you have to learn to be able to grab the bottom of your shirt. Yeah, right underneath your waistband. Like and now your whole shirt and jacket off in one motion.
Starting point is 01:28:24 No, it's not going to be cool. Like I'm going to be like, I'm going to fucking whatever. Let's fight. And then I got it like. And then now, listen, you don't. Hey, that was there you go. Keep that shirt on. There's a no nipples podcast. But either way, it's like that's that took like fucking seven seconds.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Yeah. You know, the only. That's not cool that you have to go up in the elevator shirtless. Just step out shirtless. You or you can put the coat over your shoulders and then shrug it off and then shrug it off. Yeah, that's good. You can do that. That's good. You know, that that'll that'll make it not embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I know I know Kyo Kusanagi has a wind pose where he does the same thing. He pulls the white jacket off by grabbing it by the shoulder and it just comes off of his sleeves and then is on his back. Shut up. It's cool. A rock Howard, right? Rock Howard, he throws it up and goes out. I know. And like it fucking just rips it off his body. And you're like, you know, Grandpa Simpson takes his underwear off,
Starting point is 01:29:28 just pulls them right out. Doesn't take his pants off. Anyway, Grandpa, how'd you do that? I don't know. Well, if you're interested in catching up on those are two adventures, you can tune in. Woolly versus has the archives and Woolly versus on YouTube. We'll have the the videos going up
Starting point is 01:29:49 alongside the other things currently coming out, including before you continue. Yeah, I'm somewhat curious how those videos are being released. Are you just like chopping the whole thing up? Are you doing the highlight thing? So I was going to do the highlight thing like I do with most of the stream stuff. And then Solidus, who's taking care of basically all the editing, was like, people really want this to be like more so intact than other things.
Starting point is 01:30:15 So because I saw to go up and I'm like, oh, this didn't get very far. Yeah. So my my my thing with the streams was that I was going to do just highlights and Solidus was basically like, I think you should be this way. Stream being edited into an LP. It's a stream being edited. Exactly. It's this weird hybrid thing. And I don't like the part where because I have things set up in a way where if you see the Woolly versus show,
Starting point is 01:30:38 that means, you know, it's a stream highlight. And if you see Woolly versus a thing, you know that it's an LP. So it's a little bit not clear. And I don't like that aspect of it. But I do fully agree that it was it's a good idea that like most people want to see most of that as opposed to the full five hours cut down. I put I put I just dump the whole archive on my channel because I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Yeah. But there are a couple like series that I took the time to also upload a edited down version. The one that I did that the last was my last run through of Resident Evil 2 the original, right, so that, hey, do you want to blow through this playlist in two hours? So I can do it. So, yeah, the game plan has been like after so it condenses the episodes to, you know, the moments that whatever, like the more or less the full experience. And then the conversations and the stuffs that this that happens
Starting point is 01:31:38 between are called like intermission episodes. Basically, so he's kind of putting those together so that we can have all our discussions and that's cool. So it's yeah, it's a really good idea. I was like, OK, you know what? That makes a lot of sense. It's better than what I was thinking. So it's all just knows what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. The Patriots, the other, not that GW, though.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Man, Metal Gear is so fucking dumb. Now that it's dead and we're out or off of it. Wow, some of that shit was stupid. I love it. Yeah, me too. I love all of it. Even the even the worst parts that everyone hates. I still love them. There's a moment back. I look back on that whole franchise and smile.
Starting point is 01:32:17 There's an old there's an old giant bomb cast that makes me smile because it's where Dan Reichert, possibly the dumbest motherfucker on the planet, hates anime. Why? Because he doesn't know what anime is. Well, he's close minded, right? But he loves the Metal Gear and someone pauses to him. You know, Metal Gear is like the most anime shit ever, right? It was no, no, it's spies and guns and cool and cool magic.
Starting point is 01:32:43 And yeah, like anime and he has like a fucking whole mental breakdown. Was he going on the early 90s definition of it where it was Ninja Skrull, Ghost in the Shell and Dragon Ball? I don't even know because that's possible. You know, can't be anime because it's in the real world. If basically it's like your your window is manga entertainment. Yeah. Metal Gear is the most animation ever.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Was he on the persona hardcore run? Oh, OK. Endurance run. No, no, he came in after that. OK. Yes, what I was saying. So if you want to tune in for RE2 plus the other ongoings, which currently consist of the stream archives of there's wow, words just suddenly just do out of my brain job, get into fighting games and then Wully versus games and stuff.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Plus me and Reggie playing currently Jet Set Radio. Fun times on that. And Zone of the Enders with Min and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure with Volta base. You can check that out. Volta put up a fucking combo video for DMC fives demo like an hour ago. No, I didn't. It's ballerous shit. Hell yeah. I know he was so good at it. Sick. Yo, Volta's doing he's doing that shit where you like jump cancel
Starting point is 01:34:08 Nero's air swing 10 times in which. Oh, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's that's how you become a style beast. You got to get that jump cancel going. Yeah, I'm bad at that. It's actually extremely forgiving. I know. But I mentally I have OCD. Sure. I have to do everything the right way. The like it was really once the chat pointed out like the game has made
Starting point is 01:34:31 enemy step easier than it's ever been. Yeah. Then you can just press it anywhere near them and it works. And you're like, oh, fuck, you get your moves back. I look at that game and I see so much time. Like I think about how I felt Nero and how I love Nero. Nero is my favorite double man cry player, right? And I all the little changes. I'm like, oh, this is like twice as good as the one in four.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And I don't even have a full move list, right? And I look at like, oh, wow, all the work that should have been done on Dante in four has now been done to him on five. We go, I'm going to use gunslinger charges the gun by itself. Holy shit. Yeah. You know, although now that near now, we know how Nero's gun charging works. It's at like Dante's gunslinger. Having that type of love is probably just going to be like.
Starting point is 01:35:22 And then and then Dante drinks his coffee and bullets just ricochet right off of him when he's in Guatemala doing the fucking documentary. Dude, like, I guess if you can't laugh at it, then what? Oh, then what does he posted on Twitter of fucking bullet? He pulled out of the car with the quote, glad I good thing. I drank my bullet root coffee this morning. And then in the video where they're looking at the car, Ruben's like, I got a devil made cry party to go to.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I can't. I can't have it. Oh, my God, I know. Ruben Langdon, the voice actor. Well, I guess we're into the news news, whatever. And and Dante man got big shot at in Guatemala. So car apparently before. Yeah. Wait, are we going straight to news for real right now? Yeah. OK. Hey, I also do streams.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Yeah. Twitch.TV slash Angry's Pat. I don't want him to stream this week. I'm going to finish off Leon a hardcore and I'm I'm oscillating between playing Metro Exodus or just going through another run of Bloodborne. I don't know. Let me know, idiots. Now back to Ruben Langdon being dope and crazy. He's nuts. Yeah. He's super ten four hat fucking nuts.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Oh, you know what? I got I'm going to put a bullet point. No, don't don't. I'm going to put a bullet point to bring up later on in the stream about scheduling stuff. But yes, it is there's it has come to my attention that, like, despite the dangers of Guatemala that I thought there were, it turns out it's even currently more dangerous than it was. Well, at least that particular spot.
Starting point is 01:37:04 And that there are areas where they basically have like an official warning sign with Koichi on it. Doing the war from Jojo holding a little traveler's case. And they're like, if you're traveling to Guatemala, here's what you need to know. And it's basically just this massive list of like, don't fucking talk to that person. Don't do this.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Don't look over that. Don't. And it's just crazy. Like, here's how you act safe. Be fucking head on a swivel the entire time. It's really, really nuts. How many things are on that list of like, be wary. You can come here and it's a great place. But just keep in mind all these dangers.
Starting point is 01:37:44 There's an ongoing joke about certain countries. I think Volta made it about where he's from. It's like, you know, it's a PVP zone. And it's a PVP zone. Wow, Jesus. Yeah, you walk in and the tag above your head turns red. I mean, so the real the like the I'm curious to know it's like it seemed like yeah, they're filming some sort of documentary. It seems like it was some sort of project about specifically
Starting point is 01:38:11 reaching out to troubled areas. Well, then, right? I don't know that area reached back out. Yeah, I don't know if it was driving into a favela type thing that we discussed only, I think. OK. Well, the equivalent. Yeah. Every country has their particular shantytown brand of shithole.
Starting point is 01:38:31 But that's where the insanity peppers came from. So we need to keep in mind that a particular brand of insanity might follow. Is this a PR stunt for Capcom's next battle royale game? Come on. What? Come on. You didn't see that. What? You didn't see that. See what? You didn't. No one wrote that. No. Are you talking about? Yeah, man, that's insane.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And fucking like frustrating to think like just had circumstance almost like it hit the the seat, man. It is the seat and the I think the wheel in front of him, like as as like this could have been a really fucking tragic story for nothing. Oh, yeah, for fucking nothing. Well, I mean, shit happens all over the place. People get shot and killed and all sorts of horrible. They do all over the place.
Starting point is 01:39:29 But they weren't our anime boy in our video game that we like. So who cares? It sucks, but I'm really glad to hear that he's OK. And imagine if like, God, you know, it might help fucking but like the entire hype train would derail and fucking just become like D5 would have a completely that would become incredibly bizarre because what if Dante's sections are terrible, but you can't say that anymore? I mean, there's a million things that you're just, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:05 change of that world situation. So fucking, thank God, you need to get the fucking Tupac hologram and Paul Walker's digital ghosts and fucking jam them into the ending and all walk off in the sunset with Hatsune Miku. No, he already drove into hell. He's not going to drive again. But anyway, don't worry in one. In one universe, everything is canon.
Starting point is 01:40:37 You don't know which version of Ruben Langdon got sent to Noctur. The human being. Think of, yeah. Featuring Ruben Langdon from the Dome My Cry series. And then the Demi Fiend looks at him and goes, you're cool. Get in. OK, I'm in the party now. Nailed it.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Boy. Yeah, I'm sorry. These chemtrails are throwing me off today. Contrails. No, I said what I said. Follow the money. To Guatemala. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Hollow Knight silk song. This is the best ever. Nobody expected it. They were like, hey, we got like liars right to the end in the best way. The Ed Boone way. Everyone, everyone was was primed for DLC because they said it would be DLC. And then they said they said it would be. And then everyone's like, this is taking a really long time.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And then they said, don't worry, guys, we're going to have more on the the God, what they call it, the fucking shit, a Hornet campaign or Hornet DLC on for on Thursday or whatever. And then they drop the trailer and you're watching the trailer. And then at the end of the trailer, it's the second game by Team Cherry, a whole new game. It's a full game. It's a real whole sequel to Hollow Knight. It's not a DLC.
Starting point is 01:42:21 It's a sequel. Do you think that feature creep eventually just became a fucking. They have actually specifically said that is exactly exactly what happened. Yeah, OK, it was supposed to be a side DLC. And they're like, oh, what about a new enemy here? What about an area here? Right. And then they got like, probably that was a running dick halfway through. And we're like, oh, crap, we've made a we've made a sequel because they can't
Starting point is 01:42:48 stop working because this team won't stop. Should be noted, Team Cherry is three people. They're for wow, their ethic down in Australia. That's incredible. Yeah, some of these bosses and and and so on look unbelievable. The gameplay implications look super different. Hornet's so mobile. Yeah, you never get anything approaching that mobility with with the Hollow Knight.
Starting point is 01:43:13 And you already know her moveset. Yeah. Get good. Oh, man, it looks so good. Everything about it looks so good. It's just the fact that like like they just they have. They have Sakurai ask work ethic, you know. Hollow Knight is now that now that so I felt this way when I beat it. And now I'm far enough away that I feel confident in saying it.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Hollow Knight is easily one of the best games I've ever played. It is it is right there in top 10 without quite like. It's right next to Chrono Trigger and shit like that. Well, I should probably fucking actually. And I'm going to throw down the gauntlet to you, sir. Mm hmm. You need to get that true ending. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Not the gods and glory shit. Fuck that. But and you need I demand that you beat that path of pain. Oh, the super challenging thing. The meat boy. Okay. Is there that will be training for this because of what awaits in it? Or because it's just worth it to do it.
Starting point is 01:44:18 It's it's the shit. It's a path of pain is the most fun I had with that game because it's all the good platforming goodness in that game. And because, you know, the main game gives you all these platforming abilities, but they don't actually require it. It's from time to time. It. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:44:35 They push that shit to the limit with path of pain. Hmm. Yeah. So this is probably one of the coolest bamboozlings we've had in recent years. Accidental sequel where the dev lies for the best reason and then fucking just goes. Oops, a full game. No details, other than some vagaries, the completely new area, obviously. And I'll tell you what, no release date, even hinted at.
Starting point is 01:45:05 I'll tell you what, like saying an entirely new kingdom really makes me feel better. Yeah. Um, because. Whatever paint the cross, you know, the cross paint the fucking crosshair on me, but it's like it was a lot of time spent in that one. Yeah. You know, and there's more for me to go back and do. So this is really, really nice to know that it's not the same area again because
Starting point is 01:45:31 it's more exciting to experience new things. I think the most exciting thing about the fact that it's a new area and if you didn't get too far into the game or didn't do the lore thing with my by the way, Mossbag does good videos on this. Um, the most exciting thing about that game is the hit sparks coming off. The enemies aren't orange. There are some there. They all have like white tufts of hair coming off as there.
Starting point is 01:45:57 You hit them hit spark. And that means that this game is just 100% its own thing has shit to do with anything that happened in Hollow Knight. And that's super cool. Yeah. Um, I expect if this started as a DLC that the map is going to be significantly smaller. I know I expect it's I expect these guys have no trouble making a 15 hour
Starting point is 01:46:25 experience if they want to. Uh, I actually expect the map to be significantly larger if only because of Hornet's traversal being more powerful than the Knights, right? I don't mean larger in terms of content. I mean, like just literally physically larger could be because she can book it, man. Could be. I wonder if it's actually comparable.
Starting point is 01:46:48 You know, maybe they got up to that point where it was and they said, you know what? Yeah, let's just treat it this way. Um, and also like, let's make some money. Although not all of it because if you backed the original Kickstarter game free, you're getting it for free. So this was originally a DLC thing. So you're going to get it as you would have gotten it as a DLC as
Starting point is 01:47:11 a backer, but it's the sequel instead. But everyone else can buy it and they can actually get a little cash injection for all their hard work. Now that I know about Hollow Knight in Team Cherry, I'm going to push this shit real fucking hard when this is about to come out. Yeah, they have a sterling track record of they put out one game. It's one of the best games of all time. Willie, I am not nearly as well, uh, rehearsed as you are in Metroid.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I don't know exactly how many, how we stand on Castlevania. I think we're about the same. Castlevania. You probably played way better than I have. What, what on Metroid? Where's the sit? Like as in comparing the like, like versus Metroid into the all, no, I mean, like all the greats, not, not, no.
Starting point is 01:48:08 I mean the series, like it's in there, right? It's up there. I need to complete the true ending first. Okay. But as of right now, as of right now, it's up there. It's very good because for me, this dominates like almost. But you've never liked Metroid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:22 No, that's why I'm comparing it to Castlevania. This beats almost every Castlevania. Yeah. I, I, I, I need to see the rest of what's there, but like this is definitely a very, very, very good Metroidvania. I would say that it's actually much better designed than Symphony of the Night, which is my favorite, but it came out 15 years later.
Starting point is 01:48:41 So that, you know, that's not really fair. Um, I like the systems. I like the boss fights. I like the expansive map. I like the world changing the atmosphere, the characters, the story, the, you know, it's just so complete. Yeah. Um, and then Hornet yells at you to get good.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Yeah. Like I, like the only thing is that I got more than I bargained for and I wasn't ready for that much. And in a world where I was not as busy as I was, I would celebrate that, but because I'm as busy as I am, I didn't. It, that's the only thing I have went on for straight up twice as long as I thought it was going to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And depending on your life circumstances, that's an amazing thing or maybe not. I'm an amazing thing. I was, you know, I was just. The pens I was streaming it at the time and everybody was happy to see it. So it worked out really well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's more hollow night streams to do. Yeah. Great. Yeah. If you're not, you know, I was, I was explaining this to Steph the other day, but it's like, if you're not buying
Starting point is 01:49:44 games that often, that's a fucking cost time investment. Hey, do you, hey, do you not own hollow night? Do you own a switch? Probably the best game on the switch. Get it. Time to money. Time to money investment is high. Um, like both are made critical and value perspective.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Fucking a plus. Yeah, I'd put it over like some of the fucking souls games in that, in that feeling like that game is the shit. Um, how much, uh, is in that final back end in terms of like your love? Not that much. Okay. Uh, the, the carnival DLC is cool, but it's an addition.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Okay. It adds a super boss. The gods and glory DLC. I actually fairly dislike. No care for it. Um, the final boss, the final, final, final boss is super cool and a great fight, but like the aspect of that game that resonates with me is scrubbing that map and, and falling into
Starting point is 01:51:01 the fucking deep nest and, and going into the sewers and all that shit. I feel as if I've been playing hollow night for a very long time. Yeah. I feel as if I've played three games and hollow night has kind of been a staple. Yeah. That's how much content.
Starting point is 01:51:24 I feel like I went through, I feel like I went through three games back to back that blurred into one. Yeah. And you're like, Oh, hollow night four just got announced. No, hollow night four, five and six got announced. If we're going to use the Okami numbering system. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's what it was. Exactly. Uh, wow with that. So that's, that's fucking rad to, to, oh, you know what? White palace adds an entire number, an entire point to the
Starting point is 01:51:53 scale for me. It's one of the areas that you messed. Okay. White palace is exemplary. It's amazing. It's one of the best levels I've ever played. Okay. Uh, so we have live updates live updates, but first we'll
Starting point is 01:52:14 introduce the original story live. Uh, the rumor mill is a churning and I am not a fan of bringing up rumors as pause docket stories. Yeah. For future reference. I, I rather wait for content. I've made the mistake before. I don't remember what, but we got burned on something and I was
Starting point is 01:52:33 like, you know what, how about we not just bring up rumors? How about we actually put some penicillin on it? You know, do that. But, um, right now, depending on, I guess, the significance of the rumor, let's put it that way. That'll, that'll be what determines it. Yeah. If there's a rumor that says, uh, I don't know, Microsoft is
Starting point is 01:52:48 burning down. Yeah. We'll comment on that. If it says the PS4 or PS5 will be PS4 compatible or, or it's out right now. Then sure. Uh, and in this case, uh, if they say something like, uh, Nintendo might be reviving a dead and buried game.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Yes. Then we're going to bring it up a famously or, or, or very officially or well-known. What's the quote on that? The quote in particular, uh, if I can just get to a weirdly phrased one. Um, and it's not the only piece of news. Uh, that came out of that same source actually.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Um, it says here that, uh, rumor Nintendo is going to revive a very officially canceled game that no one would expect project camera. Uh, let me hint at something. I guess says, uh, Imran Khan. Uh, this is a thing that I'm going to write up about at some point, but, uh, as soon as I get more sources on it, but there's a game that's thought to be dead that Nintendo's reviving and
Starting point is 01:53:48 it's not one that people would expect. It's very much little to do. It's very, it was very much a title that was dead and buried very officially canceled. So this project camera, um, there's the follow up article that's hot and hot, hot, right? Tell me about this hotness. Uh, where an expansion on this rumor says that scale bound is
Starting point is 01:54:18 scheduled to be resurrected as a switch exclusive. How actually how? How does Microsoft not own the dead pieces? I literally do not know. Maybe it's their newfound online friendship. Maybe it's their newfound X DK X cross online switch friendship will fucking platinum made a deal that if the game didn't come out, they'd own the shit.
Starting point is 01:54:50 I have no idea. This is fucking baffling, but we all know that Nintendo and patent platinum are our good friends. They're BFFs, man. They're hanging out. Um, so that's what the rumor mill is churning out right now. And I don't know if that makes any sense. Um, they might be another franchise entirely.
Starting point is 01:55:15 They're past the switch over. You guys are real mad, huh? It might be, but, uh, we don't know. And then the other part of that story was that, um, what was it? The Kingdom Hearts three discussion did occur. Yeah. And that apparently Kingdom Hearts three was, um, discussed as a, uh, a thing where they're like, can this be on the switch?
Starting point is 01:55:40 And then the answer was a definitive no. There's like, if you've seen that game, the answer is hell no, there's no way. Uh, and then, uh, what did they talk about? That game is pushing that engine to the fucking limit. Last I heard there was talk between Nintendo and Square Enix about what they could do with Kingdom Hearts three deemed unfeasible to get a Kingdom Hearts three on the switch.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Uh, it's very demanding on, on, uh, even though a switch supports Unreal Engine four, it's a very demanding game and not necessarily when you can put out without paring down a lot. They'd have to cut a lot of shit. Uh, unsure if the remasters are actively being worked on, but that's probably where they settled on it. So that was being discussed.
Starting point is 01:56:21 This is all rumor mill. And sometimes the rumor mill turns out nothing, but the idea of, the idea of, um, fucking, that's a while bound is just where do you even, what that's big wild? Yeah, it's not so. That's huge. Not so. So, um, yeah, uh, that's, that's, that's what I saw there.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Uh, and that's, that was Imran Khan on, um, the kind of funny podcast, I believe is what the source was and they're waiting for extra sources. So we'll see. But if scale back does come back and we're getting what the fuck, uh, what's it even called? What is it called? What is it called?
Starting point is 01:57:07 I need something more than the platinum games cops with chains on them. Demons shit. No, wait, cop, cop stands, cop stand chain, chain, astral chain, astral chain, astral chain, the cop stands. We're getting astral chain in a hot minute. And boy, are those just obviously stands. Like, wow, they even point and do a pose.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Like it's ridiculous. I like them cop stand. I like my police with stands. That's a cool idea. I stand this nailed it. Uh, they're fucking and then you got the Raven, which is the red one, which is clearly evil that cannot be controlled. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Maybe cops with stands might not be all roses, but as a video game by platinum games, this looks fucking sick design and everything is, is, is absolutely doing the thing. I'm just thinking of Darby Jr. Would actually be a great cop. Did this guy do it? Apparently, apparently. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Yes. Yeah. Uh, apparently this game is, uh, what was it? They say, okay, uh, being overseen by Kimia in the credits and, uh, the character design is by, um, video, the guy that did video girl I and a couple of other notable, uh, creations over the years. So platinum just weren't just hot announcing this astral
Starting point is 01:58:47 chain, uh, thing at, um, the Nintendo direct reminder looks super second Kimia's favorite Jojo is Joseph, a good pick. It's almost like these stands are connected by a hermit purple to your car. Hmm. Zett man. There you go. That's the other thing about it.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Yeah. So, uh, astral chains looking super dope. And if, I mean, honestly, if switch just becomes the platinum console, that's fine. Right. Who's going to complain about like, oh, we got Bayo three astral chain and skill bound. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Like fuck. Oh, here's a wonderful one on one port coming in hot. Yeah. Yeah. Not to mention Damon X Makina and all that other cool shit. Gotta get around for that. I hope they got the red asshole in that game to be voiced by char.
Starting point is 01:59:36 It's so obvious. Yeah, it's so crazy. I love it. I was, um, I do. It would be really cool if they did port 101. I don't think it'll happen, but it would really be. I think they should. I think that would be a good idea.
Starting point is 01:59:50 And they said they want to do it. Are there other things that would that need it first? No, no. Yeah, definitely not. Definitely not. Skyward Sword. That's for damn sure. What if they just made the wonderful 102 instead?
Starting point is 02:00:06 Fine. And it's a port. With slightly different controls and added content. Sure, sure. Yeah, astral chain, man. So there's that. What else are we looking at? We are looking at the other announcement from the Nintendo
Starting point is 02:00:34 Direct, which had a fucking rad ass introduction there was finally seeing an animated version of like that classic Zelda art style with the Link's Awakening remake. I really I'd be so down for a Netflix. That was basically this anime. Yeah. You know, not going to get it, not going to happen. Sounds like we were close, but the opening of the Link's
Starting point is 02:01:07 Awakening trailer is basically like Link at sea and it looks like the artwork from the original game. And I would fucking eat it up. I would love it, but it ain't happened. Game also has a fairly unique kind of cool like toy art style. It looks like toys. It does look like toys. And I dig it.
Starting point is 02:01:28 And I'm seeing people who don't like it. And all I can think of like, oh, Wind Waker again. It's Wind Waker again. Yeah, again. Yeah, we now have like a like a very like defined standard. You either like it or you're or looks like a baby game. You know. Yeah, at this point, I want to say Zelda has more cute games
Starting point is 02:01:52 than serious ones. If you count all the handhelds. Think about it. I don't have the link is a lot of good handhelds. All those. There's a lot. There's more finish caps. The shit there are more cute versions of Link than there are
Starting point is 02:02:08 serious ones unless you count the age of the old ones, I suppose because the old ones are kind of like, you know, they would have been serious at the time, perhaps if they could have. Yeah, I swear to God that fucking Twilight Princess trailer while cool like fucking ruin that shit forever with that blades will bleed fucking tag. What's your remember that shit Twilight Princess shields will shatter blades will bleed.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Yeah, it was like, yes fucking serious. The one with the horizon and the war. That was awesome. What are you talking about? But it's set up like good. So it's gonna be fucking cool now again. It's gonna be fucking metal. It's like, no, it was still cool.
Starting point is 02:02:53 No, you're not you're literally understanding the opposite of what I'm saying. I think I am. Okay, I'll try it again. It was super cool. Yes, but it set up the expectation for many that we were done with those baby art styles forever after Wind Waker. I see.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Yeah, I didn't get that impression. Yeah, that's not what all what I felt when I saw that. I just thought it was this game has this. I didn't feel that when I saw it. I felt that when like Wind Waker HD came out actually and the fucking Oh, this game looks like shit again happened, but it was a lot quieter. I did not hear it at all when HD was a lot quieter this time.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Like the only time I remember this was the first time Wind Waker came out and then after it got into everyone's hands, they went this game is amazing except for that fucking ending part. Yeah, oh boy. And then and then and then the when HD came around. I heard no complaints. Never never put it past me to be able to find negativity on
Starting point is 02:03:50 the internet. Fair enough. Fair enough. Blades will bleed, but like imps will fucking cause unexpected boners and people will get confused. I don't know where we talk. Wait, we're talking about Imp Midna or like Endgame Midna. I said I said what I meant, didn't I?
Starting point is 02:04:10 Endgame Midna's hot AF man. She's fucking hot as shit. Oh, did her beauty make you make you speechless? Yeah. No, I was like, oh, why couldn't I play with that one the whole game instead of this fucking weird troglodyte fucking troll piece of shit. The one that got all the fan art.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Fuck that. Fuck that crap. That's weird. The one that Minerva minked an entire generation of people. That's fucked up. It's like a little tiny troll person. I'm telling you. I don't get it.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I'm telling you. I don't get it. Nah, dude. Nah, Minerva minked. That's some wholesome degeneracy. Ah, that's a blonde lady with some fucking nice assets. Oh, she got a little animal nose poop. She's wearing clothes.
Starting point is 02:04:49 Yeah. Midna's not. And you see, there's nothing. There's nothing there. That doesn't stop them, Pat. Oh, man, I don't get it. The power of the pen. I'm old, man.
Starting point is 02:05:03 A stack of the short variety. Oh, fuck off. That's what I'm just, I'm just as a short stack myself. All right. Y'all can get fucked. I think it's just, I think it's like, is it just because of the big orange hand? No, no, it's not.
Starting point is 02:05:22 It's everything. It's honestly, it's not. I think it's because of the fang and the like, you know, you throw like the fang on like the like Teeheehee kind of troublemaker like character. Yeah. And then you and then you put the fucking wide hips on it for some reason and then it just goes and it's also whipping
Starting point is 02:05:36 you around and bossing you and being the big hand thing. And it's being soon as fuck. So ultimately it just, you know, it happened. That's one of those things that if I hadn't been told, I would have literally never considered that. And then, but I should know better. I should know better. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:52 If, if Nintendo had been told, they never would have considered it either, but that's not how we got here. And now we have to deal with our consequences. Cause I remember getting to the end of Twilight Princess and be like fucking Zelda out of the way. Yeah, the Twilight realm with me. That's correct. That's correct.
Starting point is 02:06:12 But some people would just say, yeah, give her take take the transformation or leave it. Some folks were just like, yeah, you know, that's all. Later, Zelda, your third between Midna, Midna. Oh man, come on. No, don't forget ashes in the game as well. Which one's ashes? One of the cool hunters that helps you from Talma's bar.
Starting point is 02:06:46 I completely forget that character. There's NPCs in the game that are also awesome. What about that bug chick? Fucking idiot with the parasol or that really handsome man with the white dreadlocks from Kakariko. Man, I don't remember fucking shit. There's some really cool looking. I beat it once like the week it came out.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Agatha, Agatha, not, not whatever I said, not Ash, Agatha. Yeah, there's some really cool characters. Talma. Damn, Zelda's way down that list. Zelda's fucking way to get she got she got better and fucking the was breath of the wild. So that's a big nerf. Twilight Zelda is like top of the Zelda chart.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Yeah, but like way down in her own game because so many other characters are twilight. Zelda has one thing that most of those other characters don't have and that's that when she's possessed and evil, she looks at you and she's like a massive bitch. She's like, oh, no. Okay, I self corrected on something that was wrong. Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:54 Yes, Ash was correct. Agatha is the bug lady you were talking about. Yeah, Agatha is the bug. There you go. Yes. Correct. Okay. We are all fixed.
Starting point is 02:08:02 The timeline is saved. Um, and Zant keeping that helmet on. Fuck you, Zant. Never, never have I seen a worse case of Butterface than Zant. That helmet's real cool. Do you know what you need to do? You need to put a helmet on that other helmet in case the first helmet breaks and walking all low and intimidating with the
Starting point is 02:08:27 long sleeves while the helmet is on. God, what was that fucking thing? The triple bagger? You put a bag on your head. One for them, one for the dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:39 Oh, God. Bag blocked coolness. Anyway, seal in Zant's freshness with two helmets. Um, so I know we reset the clock before, but we can reset it again seriously. A Polish online retail ender with this one, yeah, retail ender bundled, uh, 76 for free when you buy a $5. P.S.
Starting point is 02:09:13 for a thumbstick. Now I know we're scraping for reasons to reset the clock at this point. Yeah, but this is like negative value. This is like absurd. But if you really want a thumbstick in Poland, that's a free game. I saw, I think it's a comment on this thread or when I
Starting point is 02:09:31 retweeted it, which is just at what point he just burned them. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's like, we're just waiting for this. So like what country will it be that does the landfill and then they, you know, and then like GameStop outside of fucking, uh, Brisbane, you know, like opens up a giant like pit and just fills it in like, you know, like at some point
Starting point is 02:09:54 that's just going to be, and it's like, is that even a clock reset at this point? Who knows? I don't know. Yeah, this is getting the point. Like at what point do we just see the, the, the story that is like, they're just throwing them in the trash. Not yet.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Apparently not yet. Not yet. So somebody pointed out, uh, I forget where I saw, but like the game hit zero value when it was bundled with that Xbox bundle that already had the game. Because it meant that the game was actually functionally worthless when it was bundled with the bundle that already had the Xbox bundle that came with the fall 76.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Yes. That was being sold as, Hey, you get an extra copy of all 76. Yes. That means the value of the game has hit zero. Oh boy. It's not even worth itself. Uh, we've got.
Starting point is 02:10:54 We've got something that is not brand new, but it's new to me. Damn it. And that means I'm going to talk about it. All right. Let's hear it. GTT OD get to the orange door. All right.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Project made a buy, uh, arcade coin. And this is what the fuck is this? Super hot meets Titanfall two. Oh, okay. And the footage of this thing is glorious. To say the least, we're going to watch the video now because what I can edit is a retro synth. Um, first person shooter.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Yeah, I've seen Tron vibes where you are wall running and sliding and using speed and melee encounters to dodge bullets and you're shooting guys and they blow up like the super and air jumping and doing like things that are like the wall running trial in Titanfall two. Yeah. And then slowing down time. So you're getting some of that super hot in there as you
Starting point is 02:12:03 dodge and maneuver and do things. Some kind of melee. You gotta slide. You've got a crossbow. You've got a sword. You've got these different guns and you're just obstacle coursing while you're in store. Yes.
Starting point is 02:12:15 While dealing with all the threats. This looks fucking rad. It is everything that I'm about. It's all it's and again, it's very, very super hot. Very, very super hot, but with Titanfall mobility under the water through and out the other side hitting slow mo platforming. It's just all of the things that I love in an aesthetic that
Starting point is 02:12:38 I love based on a game that I love and another that looks super hot. So, um, so this was an old build and I believe there was a what there was a steam demo that was available for a while and then it got pulled down, but I still think the old build is available on it. The itchio and I think some new build is being worked on. But get to the orange door just fucking slid across my desk
Starting point is 02:13:04 this week and a bunch of gifts. You know what a game sells you on some gifts. Yeah. That's a new thing. Right. A tweet with a video clip in it and a couple of fucking gifts and you're like, whoa, shit. All right.
Starting point is 02:13:16 That's all I need. I remember Horizon Zero Dawn actually got a big boost from son. He legends gifts to the fact that Gorilla thanked him because like he put out these gifts like the fucking lighting hitting the grass and shit like that. And you're like, whoa, yeah, what's that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:35 I feel as if you know how that we complain about like a word shows and I get more word shows. Um, trade shows where like just fucking get to the footage just show me they should just open up like a thread with gifts posted on it and just scroll down the gifts and that'll be your preview for the game. Yeah. You know, I own like I nothing sold me harder on hyperlight
Starting point is 02:13:58 drifter than hyperlight drifter not gift. Oh, dude. It was a sprite animation. You know, just do that more than the trailer that that gift was in just do that. You know, anyway. GT TOD. Uh, and okay, so I have time to pee because I got to pee real
Starting point is 02:14:21 bad. Uh, yeah, you should go pee. Okay, I'm going to. Bye for now, everyone. BRB. I gotta get out of here. PO PPA. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 02:14:33 The following conversation contains full spoilers for Catherine, the full body. If you want to avoid this conversation, skip ahead to two hours, 42 minutes and about 44 seconds. And yeah, there we go. Bladder freshly emptied, ready to greet the rest of the day. Feeling good. You know, you could always fill that bladder back up.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Okay. With a beverage of choice. I could. I have a few recommendations. He is. Maybe some energy. Yeah, I'm a little energy'd up right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Can't keep doing that. Yeah, yeah, energy and moderation gang. It's true. Don't do it, but do it sometimes. But don't do it sometimes, but not every time. Yeah, we got to talk about what's going on with Catherine. All right, let's do it. What's the deal?
Starting point is 02:15:37 So then the late over the week, some details came out that were based on someone's report of the Japanese version of the game and consider the original breakdown of this troubling. Yeah. So what we saw effectively was a we saw a post that more or less referred to, you know what, let's be really clear here, we're going to put a big ass spoiler warning before
Starting point is 02:16:10 we talk about anything. You know what, this is the only way to talk about what's happening. The only the only way to talk about like the problem here is to spoil Catherine full body. So a game that has not released in this region. Yes. So I'm I've beaten Catherine the original.
Starting point is 02:16:28 I have not. I saw I'm familiar with the original game and there's extra content in full body that was not in the older version. But so what it looks like is that effectively there was a report basically saying that the way in the original Catherine there was Erica the trans character that you know was something that ultimately kind of came out and people had some odd feelings about I remember hearing and from what
Starting point is 02:17:02 I've seen is that it wasn't handled. It's not particularly well kind of punch liney, you know, it's kind of like that's the joke. And it's like, OK, well, you know, that's coming from certainly from a time when that was a lot more common. But ultimately the expectation and hope was that like the game would I guess address or handle things, you know, well, I mean, as soon as this game got announced, people were like
Starting point is 02:17:28 like just like not expecting the best. Right. So what happened was we have the post from the Japanese version saying that effectively there are two things that happened in the game that seem pretty fucked up. One of them was Rin the new Catherine upon Vincent realizing that Rin has a penis. There is a push or a punch or something. I think the specific wording is that he hits her and then it
Starting point is 02:17:59 becomes a thing where then he Vincent has to chase after Rin to, I guess, apologize. And that's sort of like the storyline that that goes down. So there's like a like a panic moment, I guess. And then the other being that there is a true ending or some sort of that involves time travel that involves time travel where things are more or less reset. And in the true ending, Catherine meets Vincent and the friends
Starting point is 02:18:31 back in high school way early, way early. And then as a result, his the course of their lives end up changing. Paul never dies and so ends up hooking up with the or Catherine with a K and we see the same wedding scene from the other endings except Erica has not transitioned. Yeah. And so the idea is that if this is sort of if this is to be interpreted as the best possible there, then like, why would
Starting point is 02:19:01 you do that to Erica? Now, the original posts detailing this had some fairly conclusive claims that have not been born out, such as the implication that the time travel was specifically to make everyone's life better, including implying stopping this person from transitioning. That is not exactly the case. It's been a really weird one to follow as I have seen every
Starting point is 02:19:30 variation of people hitting this translation and my timeline for like over a week. I really wish I really wish it was it was like something that was like fully out in a way where like you could see and see exactly what this is about to know because ultimately yes, you're going from from these reports. What I heard sounded super fucked up and not okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:51 And it sounded like they were it sounded if what the description was like they were kind of doubling down in a way that was like really shitty with handling a trans character. I'd like to be upfront with my Japanese game, of course, coming from Atlas doesn't have the same compass as North America, but it's still before we even get into the handling of whatever. I have to be quite honest with my frustrations, which is I
Starting point is 02:20:19 think the fact that this came out in such a way in that we're playing phone tag in a language. Most of us don't speak and it's it explicitly a hundred percent about the ending to a game that has not released makes this conversation the worst like you ultimately it has been a week of I don't know I heard this I heard this I heard this I don't know is this translation accurate is this translation is so it sucks it absolutely sucks the fact that
Starting point is 02:20:54 you ultimately have to wait for the game to come out to hard confirm anything is makes it so that you can't get anywhere super conclusive but but that wouldn't be a solution either because if you waited for the localization to come out then it would then transition in one argument in which it would be okay but the localization change what they did they change it would they change it to America that they add a thing there's that possibility line or or was if what was reported
Starting point is 02:21:23 was not necessarily the case because what other people are saying is that that Rincean didn't go down in that way. Yeah, I heard a clarification on that from somebody saying that they but is what hand away is what happens still something that shitty right or is it not like what is the context of that so ultimately there's no way to know until the game actually comes out which is like a like it's a real it's a fucking ugly I don't know so this is all just kind of in the
Starting point is 02:21:53 in that place but here's the thing though is like with the with the Erica one based on I like it seems like it's left in this ambiguous place but from from what that seems to be is like if this mirrors if this wedding mirrors the other weddings yeah and this is the only thing different in this world is this is like the ideal truending because like Paul is not dead because Catherine never killed him yeah and then everybody ends up with the things the way this is if the idea
Starting point is 02:22:21 is this is the way things are supposed to be yeah it's a really super fucked up thing to say that that's supposed to be with the vagueness makes it so confusing because in addition there's the line between two of the characters of somebody and Erica or Eric at the time rather in which like I wish I could find perfect girl something like that and it's like they might be closer than you think and then comes into the question of like okay when does this take place is this literally
Starting point is 02:22:48 just because they met in high school is it is it just a couple years before you would think right so she just hasn't transitioned yet because if that's the case then this is total whatever it's just they haven't done it yet and I'll do so later so the so that's the thing is it like it's it's in that interpretation place where they don't necessarily specify for just a several years later but but if it is exactly the same time and as the result of this time travel
Starting point is 02:23:13 everything worked out great which includes not transitioning that's kind of fucked up it is that's dark so it's like everything stays everything's great except for just that but then you're like okay so then I hate the gymnastics because again the game is not but like it's the fact that you're like okay so the original couple has their wedding they meet Catherine with a K meets Vincent ten years later and then they have the wedding after the events of the game
Starting point is 02:23:38 and in this case if Catherine with a C meets him in high school then they would probably get married earlier so therefore it could just be a time thing so the I look at the implication again if the idea is left up to like these weddings are parallel and other endings and here this is the idea and the other bit to that I I'm remembering is I think someone said that in the credits the name is not listed as Erica either okay right so that that would also make sense
Starting point is 02:24:05 because the fucking from because of when it's taking place but it's so like I hate the fact that that is this is a possibility because I fucking this is an ironically yeah like this is a perfect vague spot yeah in that it is every part of this detail that we've discussed is up in the air for like almost interpretation yeah and as a result until there's like some kind of developer comment localizer comment or whatever it's it's literally just up to your perception or your your
Starting point is 02:24:40 your what you would expect from the dev team or what have you right and so on either side of this where you're going like this is fucked up and it's bullshit or no no no it's not bad it's like you don't actually know for sure it could be really fucked up or it could be totally harmless but it's sitting in this fucking miasma of uncertainty and it's on top of that it's not out we don't have an English translation to compare like it sucks this sucks the the stuff that is that
Starting point is 02:25:22 we are hearing like it's again it is it is in that ambiguous place I really hope it's not what it seems to be because it sounds like if it is that's really bad specifying details changing that whatever they wanted whatever they do whatever the ends of the end of the end game ends up being if they don't clarify that like this is not the same timeframe as the other weddings and and that this is basically a vision of the ideal future if the game doesn't clarify that the ideal
Starting point is 02:25:57 future is not Erica never transitioning then you've got a really fucked message there I think but if you assume they take place if it if it goes that way and it's like now we're in a goofy situation and this usually this is the kind of thing that developer just comes out and they say blah blah blah blah blah it's because of this whatever and everyone either has to take their word for it or not and I've been told that Atlas also doesn't develop according to like input
Starting point is 02:26:25 from the West at all they develop entirely the way they would in Japan for Japan let's say somebody at Atlas let's assume I'm not saying this is the case but let's assume it's totally harmless and there's a dev that's like no no I want to go to Twitter and explain to the people it's totally harmless right do you really think that they're going to be able to even go to Twitter and spoil the fucking new ending of their new game there's no way like the developer comment they're
Starting point is 02:26:54 also really over the top about spoilers and any LPs especially at least there's a discussion about this with development staff one way or the other is like years away right in a postmortem or a Ted talk or fucking whatever here's the thing though right I remember when poison was coming out in Street Fighter Cross Tekken yeah and right off the bat Capcom was like we worked with glad we spoke to them about this character and we made sure that everything is on the up and
Starting point is 02:27:23 up so that it's not going to come across as like a punchline or something shitty that we want to Capcom said we want to make sure that we don't cross the line right this is watch our reality TV show please also crew will you cross the line no but but all that to say this so that's what they did right and that made sense especially considering they're like how many cooks are in this kitchen oh God oh what's going to happen is they're going to be it's like literally you can just
Starting point is 02:27:52 get someone to check this and go like does this does this feel shitty to someone who's trans here because if so then cool and one would hope that some version of sanity check occurred in this case so that what if I when it does come out that's not going to be the case however we know for a fact for a fact Atlas does not give a shit about the West they make Japanese fucking games or Japanese audience yeah and we also know somewhat sadly for fact that on many issues that are near and
Starting point is 02:28:25 dear to say mine and your heart will be in all the viewers at home Japan doesn't give a fuck they don't give a shit I've heard that I've heard that there are like there there was push back but it seems for the most part like the majority was not so you can't count on say a societal check and balance on this so it becomes even more vague and more up in the air yeah because it's totally within the realm of possibility that you look and go yeah nobody gave a fuck and they just
Starting point is 02:28:57 did whatever the fuck and they don't give a shit if you're mad and if you're complaining in English they don't give a shit they don't even see it they won't ever ever even know ultimately right ultimately or maybe not this is one of those things where it's like I as much as like I can see I can see chat being like please guys don't please don't but it's kind of like I had to ignore this story would be absurd it is absurd it is
Starting point is 02:29:20 absurd to think you could just be like well no we'll just not talk it's like this is cat related to Catherine late to Atlas it's related to things we've talked about like guys there's no way we're not going to have we're not going to talk about what's going on with this like you have to so everybody would fucking make fun of our tiny dicks if we dodge this story and so
Starting point is 02:29:47 it's completely going to send that all right there you go dude like I have the girth to tackle this story the story is about dicks there's a million jokes to go for trying to be classy and I'm trying to nine I'm sad begging by not going for the dick joke Pat because there are many but the point remains the same as that like like I really hope that it's not as shitty as it seems because it fucking sucks when I hear like like my friend Dacid bro like Catherine champ is like I can't
Starting point is 02:30:18 do this and he's like the guy that helped put Catherine back on the fucking map and I'm like God damn it man that's I saw that happens and that this is in this place that's in and the other bit is that like you know again because like Atlas is doing Atlas right no matter what and and that's how it be and it's like if this is something that you kind of heard about in advance or you knew about Erica in from 10 years ago or whenever it was I think it was exactly yeah I didn't
Starting point is 02:30:44 know the game but I had heard about it yeah then you'd think you'd had time to sort of like well if you're doing this going if you're going back in on this they did make changes like they removed the line right they removed a specific one of the things that actually lends credence to the fact that it might be okay or even positive possibly is that there was a line in the original about how Erica would not be able to be allowed to be a female wrestler that conversation is
Starting point is 02:31:09 still in the game but that line has been cut so they thought about something they thought they they discussed someone discussed it at some point and they decided that no so and so should not say that to Erica right so so all that to say that like the the process of like let's not do Erica dirty when this game comes out again also we're introducing a romantic link that is all that is a second possibly trans but possibly all that's even more other thing it's an alien that's
Starting point is 02:31:41 an angel there's a lot going with with that ultimately that you know is very the law ending but it's but you're like if we're going further into if we're going further into non binary territory yeah like you'd want to make sure that you're like doing it right so so I'm of the opinion that like I completely feel or I rather I empathize with say Dacid bro I think that that level of conclusion is premature I also think that the stawn I've seen people staunchly defend this
Starting point is 02:32:19 for sure that is also premature you do not have that but there's not enough information here and the problem is is that I seriously doubt there will ever be enough information that's actually worse because now you never get the conclusion because it's left vague which mean in a way that like that's going to come down to every individual person and whether or not they want to give this dev team from out in Atlas the benefit of the doubt yes it's vague in a way that other
Starting point is 02:32:53 things are vague in games yeah times and now it's just down to well how do you feel about it I guess and like yeah you know yeah that's worse is Bayonetta sexist or is she empowering how do you feel about women sexuality does it frighten you because if it does then maybe you'll be intimidated by a Bayonetta yeah I think you should be intimidated I think you have good reason to be quite frankly yeah but let it rock you know let it rock but yeah so you
Starting point is 02:33:28 know this is something where you this is the kind of thing that will only be decided when their next game comes out and if this topic is broached again if it's handled with dignity this that will reflect well on Catherine dignity and if it's not handled with dignity it will reflect badly on Catherine because you're going to take pieces of that and use it to fill in pieces of this again I bring up poison as an example of a character that was it was just
Starting point is 02:33:53 like it was a paragraph in an obscure Capcom book that described poison as a new half and that change when it came to America and then when cross-tech and came around they went yep okay let's let's let's fix that up dignity as you mentioned and you'd almost want to preemptively do that in this case and I that's how we think about that that's how we think about it and I and yeah that this is a very I can guarantee you the fucking development and
Starting point is 02:34:22 publishing staff over at least like probably didn't fucking bat an eyelash well I know that I know that like that like not it's not that the rules change but the expectations that the public have changes once you go into a different culture but I doesn't it doesn't change the fact that I hope they go there and do that because I say the right thing to do foolish is too strong but I think that's a pipe dream I think that is unlikely to occur I think that this company I didn't
Starting point is 02:34:55 make a comment on its likeliness and I hope I think this company in this country that doesn't care about this culture of this country and makes their shit for them from a development perspective I think that's laudable right from a social perspective that's more complex. It's tough and I guess then that that I guess in turn those people won't care for this company. Yes.
Starting point is 02:35:20 Right. Yeah. That's all you got. Catherine the full body comes out whenever and will be will be available wherever. Oh boy. I don't know how this you know what the actual story was though what was the voice actor for in that's what I pulled
Starting point is 02:35:39 up the update was that the voice actor for in the new Catherine came out and said please wait for the full game. I'm very proud of the work that went into this and yeah and they're calling for context as well. Mods you can put the chat back off of icons it can be go back towards you. It doesn't have to be you don't have to I trust that to be kind of like that being said I mean you.
Starting point is 02:36:01 I can't get you know I can't get over there's a really delicate fucking topic this is something that of course people are going to feel really strongly about because it could be really fucked up but I still fucked up and there's good reason to feel strongly about it but at the same time it's like this could not have been a more confusing and impossible to discern story every single way that this has been discussed the nature of there are people that probably would give a
Starting point is 02:36:31 big fucking shit about this topic that can't engage in this conversation because they don't want to get the fucking ending of the game they're interested in spoil. So they have to wait until it comes out themselves and then they get their own judge the thought process is that the subject matters more important than the end than the ending of the game you know and that in that yeah but that only counts of it if the version of it sucks right if it's positive
Starting point is 02:36:54 then oh no I Rob like yeah it's a real catch 22 and and you know. Yeah it is you just you don't want another you don't need it you need it you don't need another example of like people who felt like shit feeling like shit again you know but I that that is one things for sure is if you're going forward everyone involved with Atlas at this point absolutely heard this now and whatever Japan is doing in their own way I think there's zero chance that it this this story and even
Starting point is 02:37:30 pre even preemptively doesn't affect everything going forward I think the impact of this will be heard regardless I even if it I'm of two minds of that I think like you because again it's the it's the double down or it's the whoa wola. You know I see that slightly differently and I that is the kind of thing that worries me which is let's say the impact is felt there's a good way to deal with that and then there's the worst way to deal with that and the good way to
Starting point is 02:38:02 deal with it is like take the criticism take your lump and try and do I don't want to say a better job because we don't know if they did a bad job but like you know try your best right the worst way to deal with it is oh every time this topic comes up everybody in the West gets pissed off let's just scrub that shit from everything we ever make again and just pretend it's not there. We don't have to go into
Starting point is 02:38:41 Persona discussion part three and quite frankly if I can be honest about that I'm the fact that like there you can connect things in this way but I also don't want to because I don't want the topic of Persona to be ruined by the fact that so many people were upset about us talking about it all people get mad no I know but I don't want it to I don't want to never be able to talk about Persona again as a result of that because it's like
Starting point is 02:39:03 every time I bring it up it's going to become a question of don't worry I'll talk to myself the now toe and the kanji thing again and so on and so forth I really don't want that to happen because that's a franchise I would like to talk about you got to get more comfortable being wrong as fuck sure I'm easy oh I'm very comfortable being wrong like my fucking main quote is be as wrong as you can be so that you eventually end up being the best version of yourself
Starting point is 02:39:25 like you keep being wrong you know as long as you improve from it and as long as you pick up where that what that wrong was about you know fighting game mentality applied to life every loss literally teaches you something so it's just that the question with the the question regard in regards to what what Atlas does is like well I guess it depends on whether or not one director has she know I believe that is the is calling every shot and everyone else just does it or
Starting point is 02:40:01 if there's a lot of people that are all calling shots together and making decisions as a group because I think if the group is making decisions in that case it's a lot more likely that the former situation will occur mm-hmm not much else to go on that's the frustrating thing it's like it's this weird thing of like I genuinely feel it would be more useful and beneficial for everyone for the game to just be blatantly fucked up and then you could just know that it was fucked
Starting point is 02:40:36 up and go that's fucked up and just deal with that then this fucking nonsense absurdity of the vagueness and the unknowing this. Sorry I'm just getting I'm getting breaking to breaking news to breaking news one breaking news is that this is what I just said about scale bound earlier yeah actually so more more scale bound reports scale bound coming to the switch no I don't think it's been wait is this confirmed
Starting point is 02:41:21 shit sorry I have to fact check this right live I have to check somebody on my Twitter that you know what hold on and then the second one was actually about about Catherine oh yeah so I'll get on to that before we fact check this one Alt ending isn't set pre transition because Toby's there and only joins the group when Jonathan hires him slash is ten years younger than everyone else. Okay so Toby doesn't join the group until later on in the
Starting point is 02:41:50 timeline which then might not place it was now we're tilting that scale back now we're tilting it back to not great yeah because if that if you're looking at that as a hard lock thing then you're like either circumstantially Toby happened to be there earlier for random reasons or if it is the exact same timeframe as the wedding in the previous endings now you're going why is this the only other detail that changed so we're now back into that place that's a fucking
Starting point is 02:42:19 shitty place to be. That is not great time travel changed it that's how that's how it goes. Yeah the biggest hands up in the world you know butterfly effect everything changed it okay and this is a this is that we're going to just move on I guess I don't have anything else at this point you time stamp this so people can fucking move past this conversation I don't want to deal with the
Starting point is 02:42:51 fucking spoilers hundred percent so that they can likely get the game and then probably be supporting themselves yeah. Yeah man is about 244 so I will let people know at this point I'm waiting for the hard swerve on the other side of the fucking thing until the when it gets localized and then a whole conversation about the localization again yeah and I apologize to anybody who feels like like annoyed by the fact that this is discussed or whatever but again there's
Starting point is 02:43:20 no this seems like it was obviously the biggest story this week there I yeah I just I sorry if that may if you're bothered or whatever but it's like there's no way we're not going to address our talk about that like it's just not going to happen so. Scale bound. Resurrected as a Nintendo switch exclusive report what does report mean I saw that on Nintendo insiders that we're
Starting point is 02:43:45 seeing it yeah they're pulling it from the same podcast from kind of funny okay okay well then it's just a real it's just a read yes it's the same thing I said earlier confirmation all right all right all right all right calm down everybody calm down. Still a rumor still the mill until I see a goddamn trailer from on the Nintendo fucking page or some shit. Now Pat I mean I guess a lot of this really just comes down
Starting point is 02:44:11 to a question yeah. I'm yeah. What are you laughing about. Well what's up what's up what's up what's up what's up. Well what's up what's up. It comes down to a question what question is that man of your moral standing that's right I mean I have certain moral standings you have certain moral standings but beyond that
Starting point is 02:44:36 people should be. In general people of integrity that's right that treat everyone else with dignity that's correct and respect respect I think it's important to keep dignity and respect and all people being treated fairly until proven otherwise I would call that my core value I would also call that so my core values how about that how about that I would call that my core value is pretty funny you know you'd mention that it's funny
Starting point is 02:45:08 you mentioned that it's funny mention what you know certain core value value that we share. The Castle Super Beast has certain core values that we believe this podcast represents. You know what said some people run shows in which their core values are not represented. Did you hear there was a show like that over the past couple days just thinking of that clown voice from BioShock.
Starting point is 02:45:42 Welcome to the Circus of Values. Wow now this is a story everybody much more fun story I want you to pack your suitcase yes right pack lightly because you don't have to worry about premature to pack isn't it but don't worry about it just you don't need too many jackets just can just get a couple hoodies in there that's right get your sketch you can make room for your arcade stick that's right because we're all taking a trip to Japan.
Starting point is 02:46:14 Evo Japan sounds like the coolest shit ever. I can't wait. This just oh boy all right Evo Japan it goes down it goes down for real. Big fight a game tournament in Japan fun stuff amazing things happening sad things happening like Momo Chi who wins but cannot get paid more than 900 bucks because he's not officially recognized in Japan as a professional gamer therefore
Starting point is 02:46:49 there's a cap to how much money you can win the fuck you doing guys gambling laws anyway I don't know. Alongside the Evo tournament is of course the demonstrations being put on by the various game companies that's correct to advertise their games one of which is Dead or Alive 6 and Dead or Alive 6 comes with a complete package pause the game photo mode that shit of which you get to see bass do a gigantic power bomb which pauses in a compromising position now I want
Starting point is 02:47:24 to point out that this demonstration Tecmo Koei hired some nice ladies apparently they were gravure models they were some nice ladies they were having a good time a good time they were acting up for the camera the camera was being acting they were putting on a show a show was being and they were having a blast with this photo mode you know who knows how to put on a show who's that base. The guy from Dead or Alive right that guy he knows everybody
Starting point is 02:47:55 bass knows how to do it pause in the game showing off some accidental scandalousness jiggle physics in the game and in real life what might say. And it seems that that was no good no good because the stream went down the American stream went down and when it came back up tasty Steve was sitting in the back and what I can only describe as I'm guessing a reluctant Mark man was basically describing that they'd like to apologize on behalf of triple
Starting point is 02:48:44 perfect productions because we know you guys want to see these the content does not represent our core values and so that's why it had to come down and then good old Mr. Wizard hits the Twitter post make more or less the same statement saying it doesn't reflect evo's core values tweet tweet which no longer exist we got deleted I want to say oh it's super fucking gone yeah that shit did not last so you know here's the thought process ban this sick Phil here's the thought process that I
Starting point is 02:49:27 could I can walk you through let's see let's hear it I'm I'm pretty sure I don't know what you're going to say okay here yeah circa three four years ago that's right longer maybe five FGC porn sponsorships dog dead gone the the cross assault incident with Ari not great Aris excuse me where the the Noel Brown incident mm-hmm the other Noel Brown incident mm-hmm some bad stuff that was ultimately casting a horrible light on the FGC caused the thuggery word to come into our
Starting point is 02:50:12 vernacular yes and the attempt to clean things up because we can't be having official e-sports sponsorships and put that shit on ESPN going hand in hand with this type of stuff can't have Laura's costume on ESPN gotta change that gotta change Armica Armica's costume Armica's super gotta go down so yeah so all that comes together where basically over the course of you know before Street Fighter five we already were seeing the the the the the attentiveness to making sure
Starting point is 02:50:46 things are PG yeah and making sure things were ESPN broadcastable that's right so what you're seeing here is just a continuation of those core values that's correct that were implemented at that time except now they're overseas in Japan let's where Japan doesn't give a fuck as we established let's contrast two things one Japan Japan doesn't give a fuck as well as as I established Tecmo Kowe unlike all the other fighting games is like yo you guys want
Starting point is 02:51:14 to see some bouncing titties and everyone's like yeah we're gonna but they did say they were gonna dial it back though for this game that's a lie and then they brought that was a lie they brought in the gravure that is bullshit we saw fucking video video of it is and more or less getting live massaged by another pants first pants were getting unbuckled hot hot fucking hot stream shit was not evil Japan is lit so uh this is the greatest ad for evil Japan ever ever I'll
Starting point is 02:51:56 tell you what and I want to point out people people let me know that there is an extra bonus cultural hilariousness to this where they cut away from these these dank titties and accidental sexuality to a Mortal Kombat 11 ad that featured Sonya's face being ripped off eyeballs in for the American audience yeah which just puts the fucking bow on this Sonya of course the original example of as long as the blood is covering those nipples everything's everything's fine our
Starting point is 02:52:38 culture is fucked we live in Montreal our culture is weird no no no I mean literally America our fucking continent yeah is fucked in regards to sex bad violence okay seen a titty never hurt nobody but anyway seeing a person's face pulled off dad has hurt people I would say that is accurate yeah but as long as like my family exists there will always be someone calling into complain yeah yeah that's how it be and that animates for the devil woolly yeah that's why it's that's
Starting point is 02:53:19 why the it says Satan 666 on the back of the book weight does it on Dragon Ball no doesn't yeah it does oh it does Mr. Satan has a car and it says Satan 666 on it but then sometimes Goku drives a car that also has the decal and sometimes Piccolo wears a shirt that says it too and and when they're like why does the why does this character have a why are they advertising Satan and I'm like I don't know and that's that's why I got changed to hurt you so and yeah
Starting point is 02:53:49 they hope for infinite losers anyway Japan oh wow I forget about that one every time it was brilliant it was brilliant that is honestly my favorite censorship of all time yeah because it actually like takes creativity and genius to make a name better than can be hidden in the words hell through a quick edit and it's better than hell fucking amazing job on that one I yeah looking at this whole thing I can see where that comes from and you know the need to be PG and whatnot
Starting point is 02:54:23 is like guess what like there's times when it's like yeah like you can't have unprofessional like bullshit happening like those incidents where they did step in yeah like some of the scummier ones really were awful oh you mean like the ones that were pseudo or actually criminal those are the ones that you can't be having on stream yeah you can't do that so the zero tolerance policy makes perfect sense that that exists right up until you can't have people scared to go to
Starting point is 02:54:51 your fucking tournament because they're looking at it like a dead of like degenerates which it is but not criminal degenerates that's right just gamer degenerates but you know some of those people I don't know if you know this like sex well now I mean that's putting it that's putting it one way I just don't think that I think it's obvious at this point that it's like guys yeah you handle that in like way that is going to be made fun of forever forever forever forever
Starting point is 02:55:28 I my the Mr. Wizard and his fucking face is like he might as well fucking take his core values on him unfortunately it's hilarious to me that that panic button decision was made you're going to see people with core value signs at at this year's you're probably also looking at someone that was maybe looking at it saying hey investors are literally about to yank unless we do something good so you know they keep it real I have how real do you keep it I don't know
Starting point is 02:55:58 criminal real yeah fuck it what's the what's just give everyone knives what's what's the line between criminal and and and just good old fashioned problem and this is the ongoing FGC issue which is the difference between keeping it real and what keep it real goes wrong on me money from the corporate and yes and one keeping it real shoutouts to that one tweet skull girls did you ever have a chance that I feel like this is actually like this story is hilarious this should skull
Starting point is 02:56:34 girls got bizarrely snubbed and it was unfair because the game was too new I told the story yeah we told stream yeah you gotta tell it now I mean I told it last year but I'll tell it again the the BB tag showed up and got in on the EVO list and everyone went that game's not out yet it comes out two months from now that's fucked up why are you giving this game that's not even out yet a couple months to be at EVO and then the comparison was skull girls which was already
Starting point is 02:57:07 out like six months ahead of time was told that it was too new to be considered and now we look back is like is it because it didn't fit EVO's core value eventually that we did get some sort of response that said the choices were never about viewership which is also kind of fucked up so but but but whatever it was the reasoning that that lab zero got was not the reasoning that applied to BB tag well BB tag had this thing called ARXIS and Dragon Ball is that fair no is that
Starting point is 02:57:41 reality probably but wouldn't your core value stop you from making that kind of listen core values is a code that means advertisers like that's the sad reality of this whole area story it's I don't want to fucking phone call from ESPN asking me why my tournament shows this sick filth and that when you're never going to see Street Fighter on ESPN ever again EVO man I want core values to mean damage numbers the values associated with your core the real stat underneath
Starting point is 02:58:12 the fake stat underneath the face that that's what I wanted to be but you know this is where we be and and and and ultimately I think there is a need for them to continue to have that sort of zero tolerance towards criminal thuggery stupid bullshit have crime you can't you know and and all the illegal shit supposed to take place and even the not illegal shit but the creepy shit the creepy shit also needs to go fucking crack down on but like get it blaze blue out
Starting point is 02:58:41 of here that doesn't the creepy shit being cracked out on does not mean that all like sexuality and I got bad news for you guys because if you want to get all the creepy shit out of your shit then you're going to have a rough time with an event dedicated to Japanese fighting games okay if they were playing our cat a heart and fucking swimming suit blob lolly showed up on stream that's right and then they pulled it down evos over and they went guys core values
Starting point is 02:59:13 etc. I don't think anyone would bat an eye I think we'd all be like fair let's imagine a fair heart for comes out and is straight up the best fighting game ever made so you mean a million Arthur or do you mean or do you mean BB tag our kind of heart characters announced for BB tag oh yeah yeah all right let's imagine that and it's all the creepiest ones fuck that again what the fuck are they going to do like for real bad the characters well that would be real transparent
Starting point is 02:59:51 one that yeah apply a mosaic to one half of oh my god oh my god actually oh fuck actually yeah galaxy brain whoever mains that character plays off stream and if they're the finalist then we move to the next schedule on the next item on the schedule that would that would maybe I'm being hyperbolic because like you know whatever but that level of capitulation to corporate whatever would like ruin EVO for me and then we have so gross we'd have a brief delay
Starting point is 03:00:37 trailers would play and then someone would come up and congratulate the winner after the match was done off stream and then we can start our own fighting game tournament with with blackjack and hookers and then drugs what it was that grab your bottle grab or yeah oh boy yeah so anyway I had another what do you need for war models if you got the hookers yeah no that's that's a rough one they're never going to live down unfortunately they shouldn't it's embarrassing
Starting point is 03:01:13 and they should be embarrassed but hopefully there's time to reflect and realize that sometimes it's it's not the creepy stuff it's okay you want to get fucking universe brain what happens to core values at the fucking televised Catherine full body side tournament at EVO if the games all fucked up and shit well the game itself the versus mode does not feature any of that yeah but now it does fucking now it does yeah yeah yeah exactly
Starting point is 03:01:56 they just quadruple down on it and just like a character select screen could be bad hold start to get an alternate costume why would you do that don't do that oh no don't change the name stop it oh no Atlas oh no fuck off so I was gonna say that this whole situation has been great advertising for DOA 6 for real it has been shout out to the guy in the cosplay as fucking like Bayman or whatever that was just crouching and smugly like smiling playing the game moving
Starting point is 03:02:47 the camera around here the guy like there's there's a grab for models basically jet jubilant they're fucking you know whatever what's the fucking term again fun bags no no anyway whatever the but I forgot but they're shaking around the fucking cleavage and then offside to the side he's like squatted over and he's and he's and he's playing and he's like got a smirk on his face and then it cuts the footage and it just zoom it in on the implied cunnilingus and you're like
Starting point is 03:03:18 yeah that's not cool for ESPN but you know what I think ESPN needs to get real chest be first thank you I fucking gave Matt that word and I forgot it what does Evo do does it return from whence it came back to the pit as the announcer would say or does it strive for legitimacy by continuing to clean up its image the problem is the strive for legitimacy in some ways may lose them legitimacy in others right I don't think anyone legitimately wants to go back to the pit
Starting point is 03:04:02 while it does have a certain nostalgia to it the pit was the pit for a reason however that doesn't make the corporate slime feel any better so continue making these decisions but understand that you'll be laughed at for making them yeah and try and strike a balance listen you're putting pit beasts in suits all right some of them are going to shape at the ties deep down so sometimes you you can put them in a suit but just the blazer don't make them wear the tie
Starting point is 03:04:50 is deep in their hearts they'll always be pit monsters but it's like there's the ESPN line like it is a hard question because it's like the ESPN line is a hard line it's a TV line I think ESPN coverage and all that shit is wildly overrated and it's done by a bunch of people who are getting off on the fact that we got to be on TV however if it doesn't start there it'll never get to the Korea place yeah where it's like celebrated national sport maybe I'm wrong about everything
Starting point is 03:05:22 but it's never going to get to the Korea place you are wrong Esports the international all that shit here in the States it's a matter of time you're it's a matter of time you're super duper incorrect footballers will eat the esports TV being TV is not a thing but like mass watching of video games as like a pastime will absolutely be a thing in your lifetime listen I'm not personally familiar with American sports fans as much but if you're going to sit there and tell me
Starting point is 03:06:07 that they're going to fucking have the counter strike whatever and people are going to care more about that than the fucking Stanley Cup you are out of your mind are you talking about like let's say the NBA finals which Twitch has consistently beat in viewers now I'm talking about the Stanley Cup okay while you live in Quebec but yes I do okay the NBA that's why I specifically mentioned I don't know much about the States and their sports the NBA finals has had less viewers than
Starting point is 03:06:40 Twitch for the last couple years what like specifically as a thing that people are using to go like yo esports is actually got the eyeballs at this point like that's a stat now Super Bowl is the actual thing you want to use as your comparison metric sure because that's your fucking top of the top running million-dollar ads on Twitch drink even though they're not are we going to get there I think that's lofty I think that I think Super Bowl is I would be shocked if we
Starting point is 03:07:19 hit if it ever hits Super Bowl you know I'm talking about but as far as it goes like on the regular you know like like because Super Bowl nothing's bigger than well at the time bigger than starcraft Olympics are fucking you know what I mean shit about the fucking Olympics a lot of people watch them yeah they're idiots I'm saying that sports will I'm saying sports over time will have comparable numbers to esports over time and there
Starting point is 03:07:47 will be these exceptions such as play Super Bowl maybe playoff numbers in some cases maybe Olympics World Cup is another fucking insane example right you have these pinnacles but I'm saying the numbers that are not happening at the pinnacles the data supports the fact that it is trending towards that I can't say it I mean there's a reason why people are running into this business with cash you know but there's a reason why sports players are creating esports teams why Echo Fox
Starting point is 03:08:19 exists and all these other teams that are run by former athletes that are getting into esports is a reason why the Grizzlies run by George St. Pierre are a thing you know like it's it's the data supports that I don't see it but I'm probably wrong but I I cannot you the specific example that I'm arguing against is you saying that you can't get to Starcraft in Korea unless it hits that no video game will ever be like Starcraft was in Korea here.
Starting point is 03:08:57 That I don't think you're saying esports are getting big yeah they're gonna get super big but the idea that in this country or the states it would anything will approach that level of absurdity is insane is absolutely fucking crazy I agree with that I don't think our statements are mutually exclusive. Yeah all right because I wanted to specify that it's like Starcraft so fucking crazy it's a national sport yeah and
Starting point is 03:09:26 we're not gonna yeah I don't even know what fucking sport Korea actually is into other than Starcraft probably soccer Taekwondo is pretty big. Well yeah they like to kick people off of horses and shit if you could do a Kim Kapwan wouldn't you yeah. That's the right pick by the way thanks for saying Kim and not warang warang's cool but Kim's the shit. Well for the purposes of our segue we could talk about
Starting point is 03:09:51 warang though yeah because we saw the trailer and Julia Chang the Twitch streamer is back I identify with that she gets followers in the middle of the fight that's dope and she appears to have the move set that she always has had she did she's the she's Julia just like her mama not full JC though not the lucha but like looks like that's going to be dropping and the fun part of course is that in the trailer of course we got to see I can say of course a couple more
Starting point is 03:10:25 times because of course of course I have a crutch and of course I can't stop saying of course of course you do perfect Negan trailer is at the end and you get to see some of his moves and guess what he swings the fucking bat around yeah Lucille does things and it glows and it's an evil possessed demon bat maybe that's canon by the way I saw some walking dead episodes flows like that the evil is really just the bat and not Negan Negan is a nice person if he lets go of
Starting point is 03:10:53 I don't know if you know this but the bat in walking dead he actually looks at it and the 10 symbol shows up on it it's possessed by the satsui no had so that means that Negan's bat was hired by Kazumi that's right to investigate it was supposed to be given to Akuma obviously but then he can stole it when Akuma was sleeping so you're saying the bat has the 10 symbol on it that's right could that be described as a bat out of hell no it'd be a bat out of heaven are you sure about that
Starting point is 03:11:36 I thought 10 meant heaven or hell wasn't mean are you sure now I thought it meant the both at the same time I thought it was the op the other world which is a 10 is heaven but it was good it was good heaven or hell dual one I win let it rock are you super fucked that up the attempt was all right I regret nothing I regret nothing Megan joins the fight what you know what the worst part is Willie I thought you're set me up to say bet out of heaven and then you fucking
Starting point is 03:12:33 just sure and that's when I knew that's when I knew actually I didn't know technically it's a bat out of the home for infinite losers if you really want to know it's Jesus it's a vampire bet apparently was actually Eliza's bat from Tekken Revolution so he glows with absolute killing intent fuck this this is stupid and it sucks appears to be a very faithful Negan yeah sure and yeah he does the thing where he puts you on your knees and then he beats you up the end of the trailer is
Starting point is 03:13:13 quite hilarious because Harada makes a little cameo oh does he and Negan's basically like now this whole waiting for the end of the season thing you're going to put me in the next update right yeah and her at is like yeah yeah I'll do it oh Negan's done early Negan's threatening to kill Harada cool so Negan and Julia both coming out on the 28th so I want to point out that in Canon Harada is as strong as Heihachi Mishima and could defeat Oh no based on those videos that they put out
Starting point is 03:13:54 or they would fight remember that shit for cross Tekken where Oh no fought Harada yeah but like how is it where does the what is the Heihachi comparison come from he dresses like Heihachi you always use the the black key with but that's not a comment on his power love it is it's just that that's that suit that shit doesn't even go on unless you're strong enough it's really it's just this outfit no it's cosplay no no Harada based Heihachi on himself that's why Heihachi wears that outfit I
Starting point is 03:14:24 can't believe I actually started listening yeah it's one of those times where I in my back of my mind I'm like why is he entertaining this this is really stupid I'm gonna keep going until he stops but he fell for it this is a dumb conversation he's having a lot of dumb conversations I'll admit myself you deserve it that's what you get oh no I'm bleeding shit I really bit the fuck out of myself for no reason for no reason even man how salty would it be if I named
Starting point is 03:14:58 the podcast bad out of hell no it's not a fun name let's take some email shall we hey gang if you want to have an email read by us be it a comment question correction that I don't believe they've ever gotten right you can send that to castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com willy do we have any emails this week that we should read high quality emails perhaps yes we do
Starting point is 03:15:36 we got one coming in from Henry hey Henry what up correction dear dreadlords of castle super beasts correcting Pat of course the Wheel of Time series was finished not by Robert Jordan son who doesn't exist but by his widow Brian Saunderson and a boatload of notes Saunderson was picked by Robert Jordan's widow personally as for the question of what book series y'all would want to see adapted and how you'd want to see it adapted inquiring minds want to know I've been getting this
Starting point is 03:16:10 wrong for a while and was corrected before today about this on the internet via social media therefore that correction doesn't count so nice try if you've been already corrected then someone got to me before the email and the wrong shot sorry buddy better luck next time okay oh I can just feel the anger the collective anger of the email horde at me changing the rules on them yeah I'd get salt yeah well we got one coming in hope nobody beats it to me on Twitter from Christopher hey
Starting point is 03:16:59 Chris what up there worry and the path to hey yo what up so I recently come on the side you know what I learned actually this email for a minute all right wow I eat our shit Chris I learned that I learned that that languages that pronounce ours are called rotic languages and or or accents rather accents that pronounce the are are called rotic accents and ones that don't are non-rotic accents interesting so some old school southern drawl that doesn't have their ours yeah or some British
Starting point is 03:17:40 is non-rotic what do you call a fucked up accent that says both with an L oh I don't know but you'd have to be some kind of ass that sounds like it like that that sounds like some weird fucking I don't know either Philly or Colorado shit I don't know who says it that way I know at least one person who says it that way that's very weird yeah it's fucking weird I don't know what the fuck they're talking about both both with an L
Starting point is 03:18:11 that reminds us kind of Fargo we like oh yeah we we got both of them you know I was going to that was my deal Wade sounds kind of like something like that you know so I'm going to actually take a question from the chat something that we rarely do is this a dig at page or plague or both both you know you should have said both they're like talk funny they're we and the bottle could you
Starting point is 03:18:51 can stop eating our shit now Chris so I recently played through and finished Metroid Prime Echoes it's a good game what a great fucking game makes me upset that the real first exposure to the series like Metroid Star Fox and even legends of Zelda I got was through brawl back in two odd eight weird but anyway in the game I encountered an enemy called a res bit yeah type of rogue patrol drone that incapacitates Samus with a virus attack requiring you both to reboot
Starting point is 03:19:17 her suit systems in order to be able to continue this concept of enemies fucking with you is an ability with your ability to play the game is greatly entertaining and fascinating I was wondering if you had any favorite examples of this type of enemy that like if some if this all the best now forever without that never give up mentioned Metroid Prime and that shit res bit everything about Samus's suit yeah and being in the suit is the like it's the coolest element of
Starting point is 03:19:41 that game is so fucking rad therefore if you're going to attack something attack the suit yeah fuck the suit and remind the player of their immersion of their immersion by having them feel like oh my suit is malfunctioning my heads need to change I'm going to say eternal darkness okay insanity meter it fucks with you flies on the screen it flies on the screen it deletes you there's one that deletes your file it hits the pause screen out of your control and goes and
Starting point is 03:20:17 deletes your safe file it's outrageous and it looks like really it's it's it I don't know how it got passed like compliance of the day because it's super against that they break every fucking rule of the honestly wall so so in those situations that's basically a compliance tester looking at it going fuck it that's cool nah come on come on you know and Nintendo goes yeah get special permission that kind of thing you can get exceptions in fact half of the job is not even
Starting point is 03:20:51 the finding in the reporting it's the getting permissions part where you're like we can't fix this on time please will fix it problem please give us a conditional pass let us release the game as is and on day one we will have a fix and then sometimes they get told to eat shit and then you get a two week delay for a game out of nowhere two weeks fuck you you smoking well I've seen you on that I began what's that two weeks hell no month what yeah you gotta you gotta chalk
Starting point is 03:21:22 that up all right man I'm talking on my ass yeah I never worked in fucking QA yeah I'm a professional armchair asshole my favorite is Valentine from skull girls yeah because she shoots you with the poison syringes all that shit's fucking fucked up as I'm sure you are familiar yeah the controls though the idea of a projectile syringe to begin with don't like it fantastic don't like it what a great projectile man you know what's fucked up you ever see I think it's Beethoven
Starting point is 03:22:02 to the woman St. Bernard's yeah the fucking main villain in Beethoven second yeah whatever yeah fucking St. Bernard movie the villain in that shit it might be the first one I remember is like kidnapping dogs to experiment on them at the fucking pound and shit right and the way they fucking get got is Beethoven jumps on the table that has all the fucking dog syringes and launches like 50 fucking 12 gauge syringes into this dude's chest and like pins him to a fucking wall it's
Starting point is 03:22:32 so fucking violent it's so out of control violent for this fucking kids movie about dogs I don't suppose you saw that photo of scared the shit out of me and I suppose you saw that photo of the the truck with the hospital waste that fucking had a spill apparently that's the first movie not the second one but oh man there's a photo of a truck on the highway and the back of the truck broke open and all the hospital waste spilled out over the road including syringes most dangerous
Starting point is 03:23:05 garbage and waste bags it's it's an actual nightmare you need a special team of people to clean that up because touching it like it has that fucking biohazard logo on it for a reason like the Google Maps just puts the biohazard logo on that dot you're right reminds me that that fucking asshole comic guys wearing the shirts no fear and it's like what if a what of a dump truck full of medical waste broke open one fear yeah yeah yeah so the one fear guy I was actually reading
Starting point is 03:23:40 about that yesterday about the guy who created that original comic and the original t-shirt was what if all Simpsons porn was removed from the Internet one fear oh man and then like how he's like it's cool if people beam it and post it but you know I watched this an entire documentary on the biohazard logo a little while ago and wow there was this it was American scientists and and and designers and because they had all this fucking nuclear waste from the bombs and
Starting point is 03:24:13 shit and they needed a way to fucking designate this shit as bad it will kill you right yeah and so they made a shit zillion fucking symbols one of which is the Abstergo logo one of the rejected by oh yeah the Abstergo logo okay and they needed to get something that when people looked at it it it meant nothing to them people couldn't even guess what it meant but also they'd be able to draw it like hours later when they were asked it because there were some logos they made which people
Starting point is 03:24:51 like oh that's probably trees or some shit okay throw that in the trash okay because it could be confused okay so it had to be memorable and it had to mean literally nothing and they came up with the biohazard logo and went hey good slap that on shit tell everyone it means poison fucked up horrible poison interesting yeah I mean it in my brain it looks like a weapon like a it's evil looking as shit it's an evil looking logo but it also looks like a Klingon weapon the other thing
Starting point is 03:25:26 is the idea and this you can't test this right but it's like listen let's imagine a future in which we're all dead got it and nuclear silos and shit like that in medical ways they're unmanned right and some bumble fuck in the post apocalypse wanders up and sees that symbol do they just assume correctly that this is probably fucked up and that they shouldn't touch it hopefully you do the best you can because if not you're gonna have a bad day shout outs or rather a hard cut to bio
Starting point is 03:26:01 waste being the only thing to feed the new mutants syringes are the only way to survive anyway Valentine throws three syringes at you and if you use light punch she shoots damage over time if she if you use medium punch she increases your hits done so you can do more combos or if you use heavy punch it adds lag to your inputs and if you stack it three times it literally lags you out like heavily so that you feel like you're playing underwater it's really good and that fucks
Starting point is 03:26:35 with the game what is what is the fuck that the medical waste is the only thing that feeds the new mutants what the fuck are you talking about I'm talking about the survivors of the post apocalypse that killed everybody sure that you just described I'm talking about those that are immune it being so immune that the world that they live in is now bio weight hazardous toxic waste everywhere and that that logo means we got good eats tonight boys so instead of ghouls and radiation it's
Starting point is 03:27:17 the new mutants and medical ways toxic crusaders and such people with the melting faces the idea of someone eating a syringe makes me want to throw up it's the only way to survive it's shut up shut up grocery stores are now the real hazards wait like a vegetable will kill oh yeah it's got to be radiated moon we start forming camps around nuclear power plants somebody recently informed me that the moon is in fact not human germ free yes someone some bacteria some bacteria
Starting point is 03:27:57 followed a strap strap throat fucking get out it's not followed followed him to the moon so sorry tainted thanks thanks I hate it yeah for real you get nothing Levi says Lords of Beastdom have you ever seen people drive around an anime decal cars no in Ames I a aka the middle of nowhere there's these two guys that drive around with anime decals on their sedan doors one of them is red with ask a Langley and the other decals look high quality I can't imagine
Starting point is 03:28:33 driving around with that on the side of something so expensive what are your thoughts on the matter yo I bet those dudes getting mad pussy I mean the hentai car at magfest shows up every year doing its job I wouldn't be surprised quite frankly roll down the window yo this check on my cars from an obscure anime from 1996 I got the tapes in my back seat if you want we can watch did
Starting point is 03:29:04 you share it all day in my crib you know yeah sure there's a mystery wagon driving around Montreal it's been years since I've seen it but there is quite literally a mystery wagon I feel like there's a mystery wagon driving in every city ever Scooby Doo is ubiquitous enough it's yeah fair enough anime car only at cons I haven't seen any anime cars in Montreal I've not seen an anime car
Starting point is 03:29:34 I've not seen ever no oh they oh yeah they're out there they're at liner I know they're out there but I have not personally I've seen witness and bad airbrush X men and Batman cars those are rad I haven't seen any of them I love those things those are super good Jesus Christ that's embarrassing terrible airbrush comic book heroes cars fuck yeah all about that um
Starting point is 03:30:02 it's the same fucking thing as bad tattoos just more expensive and less permanent yeah I guess so and we got one coming in from Eric dare Patty and Woolrich my what a very unique question this is so my dad was a journalist for most of his life cool which means he lives and dies by the American style guide home he'd always correct my grammar I love my father but it got annoying having to always
Starting point is 03:30:29 speak just perfect anyway all this to say it's now one of my pet peeves to hear people say very unique things can't be very unique and unique means one of a kind it's of one of his many lessons that got stuck in my brain what's an example of something that drives you crazy about a family member that you nevertheless have picked up from them and can't stop doing quite frankly
Starting point is 03:30:58 I assume a bunch of my pronunciations but that's also that's not my family that's much as it is French I'm going to change the question people would say on accident are fucking insane oh I got one okay so you know how we often talk about weird pronunciations because we live in French Canada that's a bit yeah it is I fucked that up there are some that I reject I utterly and absolutely always reject close the lights a lot of people that live here say close the lights as close lights
Starting point is 03:31:34 instead of turn off the lights and that comes from family Lumiere exactly right because I'll say you're saying that's how you translate it and if you argue long enough sometimes they'll say things like well it makes reference to closing the circuit right and that's bullshit that's where that's where the why they say for me but I it sounds wrong every time and I hate it and every time someone says close the lights including Steph I'm like I will turn them off I will not close them you
Starting point is 03:32:09 don't say oh no one says open the lights right everyone even the even in French here says turn on the lights that's correct but sometimes that bilingual will slip into a weird place and every once in a while it skirts up against something that I will never ever accept I reject your lights is nice a even a fucking real word nozz is a real word so I get close enough but you don't just start the game you open the game that's true opens a game yeah nozz was one that I picked up back in QA for sure
Starting point is 03:32:53 like that's a whole lot of nozz waiting for you right there the fuck does that mean nozz it's like it's nauseating oh fuck you but it doesn't just mean nauseating it's like it's it's just a pain in the ass and a no not and a Z and a US e nozz you know it is it is it's like you're just like that is that is that table full of work is hours of nozz waiting for you right there or you're being a nozz you know like it's just one of those things that came over from Brighton and I think
Starting point is 03:33:32 the problem that I'm having is that any of those vocal things that I've picked up I'm unaware that they're wrong or even specific to me the one that jumps to mine is an argument I've been having with my mom for 25 years and she refuses to learn because this is the word in her mind or she says hey let's take an example you know you can mow the lawn and if you need me I'll be out on the gallery what that's right the gallery you know the sitting area area at the front of your
Starting point is 03:34:11 house well that was great you get to own that one that was a joke no it was not yeah the gallery hazard a fucking guess what it's supposed to be veranda porch gallery you know the porch she says gallery gallery and I'm like mom that's cause for concern I'm like mom that's not a real word she's like of course it is everybody calls it a gallery and I'm like that there's sure enough grandma would fucking call the gallery there's no deal what fucking Ontario shit is
Starting point is 03:34:58 there's no D anywhere near I know I know your thing I don't fucking know anyway by the way mom I love you happy birthday look at that for your birthday it's a fucking children's book with words in it oh no that's mean she's gonna see this clip now oh no tell me something to tell you and you're gonna feel embarrassed now she gets a kick out of that shit she's a good sport yeah my mom would not understand all really she would like she would
Starting point is 03:35:47 just be very she wouldn't be embarrassed she wouldn't feel mad she wouldn't feel happy she wouldn't get a kick out of it tell her head she would just be extremely confused because this whole thing is just the most nonsense magic it's just the devil it's just black magic it just doesn't make it by the devil yes oh I see are you white I sure am tough to get any whiter than this I got recessive genes all the way down red hair blue eyes losing my fucking hair you can see through my arm and see
Starting point is 03:36:22 the blood yeah spread some cheese on me cuz I'm a cracker I'll pass nailed it oh you don't want to spread some cheese on this what's coming up and out you know what's oh this is a disgusting podcast all right hey besides my lunch anthems coming out this week oh boy exciting I'm not gonna do anything with that game I'm gonna stream over at twitch.tv slash angry's Pat toss up between probably Bloodborne and
Starting point is 03:37:07 Metro or anything else that I fucking feel like whatever see me there usually start around eight how about you walls this Tuesday gonna be jumping into I'm gonna I'm gonna have some more anime on stream I'm bringing in I don't know dude I don't know if you can do that okay well if that's you know well acceptable it it's happening bringing in a friend of mine Alex to come hang out with me and Reggie and not crazy ninja Alex no completely different one of the organizers
Starting point is 03:37:40 of the anime the Montreal air dashers will be versus core values and we're gonna be we're gonna be looking at Akatsuki bliss camp and that's a good game BB tag we're gonna be going into that comes Saturday probably gonna be Titanfall today oh yeah probably gonna be Titanfall today this Saturday and then the the yeah the LPs continue so you know a jet set radio re2 zone of the enders coming to an end right now we're in the VR missions and I'm I'm losing my mind like
Starting point is 03:38:26 if you haven't been checking out zone of the enders and you want to see me like freak the fuck out because I can't believe how sick it is to pilot Jehuti that's a good old time how can't hang out right now with those episodes and then of course judges bizarre adventure as well which I'm both on our streamlining because that game gets a little bit grindy and we have to do a little choppy choppy of the LP snippy snippy choppy choppy the LP so that's what's happening over
Starting point is 03:38:57 on Willy versus wait did you just say choppy choppy the LP I did the fucking kind type it without Venus well anyway all right let me just let me just see if I can are you gonna be able to lift that that's so many I'm just placing this over here because I need to do the button all right that's a podcast everybody now you all go out and enjoy your energetic day empowered by Red Bull we should probably actually give a thanks to Red Bull for
Starting point is 03:39:56 the Red Bull Esports Twitter account sent us a shit all the Red Bull and it was like yo we got all we did was talk to them on Twitter and I thought we were cool and we had a really fun interaction and then they're like yo we're gonna hook you guys up so yo thanks thanks for the Red Bull I love you Red Bull RB CSB you

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