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Endgame spoiler cast at the end of this episode
No game of thrones spoilers because it's still mid-season
I
I thought it was in really poor taste how Ned came back to life to crawl up Thanos's ass, right? So
Maybe at the end of
Of the season but I can just give feelings I could just throw feelings out there
I have many feelings about game of thrones right now actually. Oh, yeah, let's talk about the concept of spoilers
Shall we?
So the the end game came out on fucking God
I want to say Tuesday of last week like movies are getting earlier and earlier and the entire internet was a buzz
Hey, shut the fuck up
Hey, you
Shut your fucking mouth
Don't spoil don't spoil this adaptation of a old comic
Don't shut your shut your fucking mouth to end game. It was different
The only thing that Matt will of course, but the only thing that matters is whether or not Paul Rudd is gonna climb into Josh
Brolin's asshole 22 movies, right?
Everyone shut their fucking mouth and to be fair most people were pretty good about it, right?
Meanwhile
Just a few days later
Let's hashtag the shit out of every single fucking moment that happened during a live TV broadcast
Oh, yeah, let's change our fucking avatars to a bunch of spoilers and flood Twitter with fucking
Animated gifts of all sorts of fucking bullshit
Let's have the fucking hashtag of the fight at the location
Be like you stupid mother fucking idiots. Oh
My god the the cat. Oh and that week was the Jojo week as well where
Fuck the people watching the anime if they didn't watch it that morning. Holy shit. Oh
My god, this was my favorite part because of this thing
Well end of fucking epic what the fuck is what is the difference between TV and movies?
Why is like one spoiler thing so rigidly enforced and everyone's shit the fuck you shit the fuck
But as soon as it becomes like live TV or pseudo live TV
Everyone's just like Twitter is a live place for a content reaction
It's like oh my fucking god the difference between Avengers and Game of Thrones and Jojo was that Avengers
Officially went on an anti-spoiler campaign and they made trailers and videos and hashtags
Specifically telling I seriously doubt that would have mattered that was a part of it and that was a big group
That was definitely one difference between how things played out. It doesn't change anything ultimately and you know in one case
You're looking at
Like anyone who's already read part five can spoil anything about it for you in a second
So that's that's in that's in and has always been in dangerous territory
The mangan people are like this is 20 years old
So like what I'm saying is that has been like in the public safety like sphere
For the entire life. I've been anime has been exist has been out
I've been under the the
Idealized rule set that like you get a spoiler reset when a new adaptation comes out of whatever your personal length of time is
I'm just saying that like it's been up to like assholes or not assholes
Yeah, for Jojo of the entire time
I'm just like the entire at the entire parts have been out during that anime run now with
Game of Thrones they caught up to the book and went past it so you couldn't possibly
It's fresh for everybody
And what do you there's not much to say besides like people freak out and have their
Reactions the things and I like it's you know and like the fan like if anything if anything
All you really had to go on was the fact that every episode when it happened like the Sunday of you would always see Twitter become nothing
But those hashtags I just realized what the actual difference is and the actual difference is is you're not supposed to be on your phone in a movie theater
Oh
Yeah, there's that and it and the the part of it the distance between like
Something happening and going but that's not God on that's not the entirety of it
That's a really minor aspect of it
But it's really yeah, that's a part of it
But look at but like all the articles and the Twitter official moments that get created and the little icon at the end of the hashtag
To show you that it's an official thing
That's all reflective of stuff that happens in the 10 to 10 minutes after
11 o'clock to an hour, you know, so from from
11 11 from 11 10 till 12 is you know, that's the that's the catch-up hour
So I have a practicality question here that met that is gonna amplify or or
Like de-amplify my my personal feelings on this the way that Game of Thrones comes out
It's airing on what HBO whatever HBO Sundays, and if you're in Canada crave, I believe okay
Is that 11 p.m. East Coast and then 11 p.m. Central and then 11 p.m. Pacific?
So it all depends because I mean look for that's been a problem for the entire run
Like for years when it was unavailable anywhere else except for the HBO in Canada was like just not loud
There was a whole thing where the earliest you could possibly get it was I want to say
Sweden
Some country got it an hour before everybody else did and though that would be the country who got ripped
You know and shoved online on a torrent. So
Yeah, it like the idea that I think you're spoiling a thing like before it's even actually live in parts of the world is
No, no, no, no, no what I was talking about is after it aired
Yeah for North America that 11 to 12 hours when it is after it airs for North America, but
There is that one-hour head start if you happen to like, you know
Live wherever that was and then everyone else watches it at 10 o'clock, you know
and
Yeah, it's just the practice has been as soon as the season starts and it becomes Sunday
And it's 10 o'clock after the that hour goes by the it's not just people reacting live
It's like websites are writing their reviews there. There were there was somebody
Page was going through a Twitter and saw somebody change their profile pic to a spoiler and their name to X character is X forever
And it's just like what why?
Why are you people like who would?
God, yeah, I didn't see it which is fine because there's the other thing like here's another thing, right?
And this is also important if you think about like official
Expectation of how you consume the give a media
Avengers is something you pay to go see at a given block of time that you choose when you have that block of time
Game of Thrones is something that traditionally
Heirs on the TV. Yeah at the time frame that everybody watches sure grandpa exactly
Right, but it's not put out
It's not sure old people living in the past
But that but but the difference the reason why I'm saying this is because you can feel the difference between the way people treat
This versus a season of something that drops on Netflix, right? So
back when
Back when it was okay to watch House of Cards
Whatever back what a house of cards for example would drop a whole season in one shot there would be a
It's a weird spoiler culture on there
But it's a whole season and it's in one shot and you're not gonna get to through all of it in one night
So anyone who was kind of like immediately posting
Final episode shit about that you just go to the final episode just to fuck with you
Couldn't possibly have watched all of it the time frame between the drop and where you're posting doesn't make sense
It's like when you put up a YouTube video and like a comment within six minutes is like I can't believe they never it's like the video
Was 48 minutes long
You don't know that and you're wrong exactly right like when someone makes a call out that said that's like it's like it's it's
915 and you have half an hour left and you couldn't have possibly seen where this goes, but
So when a season drops on Netflix you don't get the thing you're talking about because there's no live time
Right Game of Thrones still has a live time and it's still aired at a specific point where everybody watches it at the same time
So because of that unifying factor, there's a specific moment where people are going to react to it
I just like it's because it's still traditional TV. It's not often when you want on demand
The it is but it's but on demand is like almost like the secondary
I've always been baffled at the movie versus
Fucking TV distinction where I'll even see people go
Don't spoil the movie for me and then spoil a TV show like the next day
Within 24 hours of its airing. Oh, yeah, and it's like. Oh, yeah. Hey man
Our podcast has done that
Unintentionally at times and has been shitty about it like it is I mean besides reaction culture, right?
For sure being a part of the way things go nowadays
It it's just I really do think a lot of it could go get chalked up to
Are you supposed to watch this on your own time at some given point? Okay?
Then you have a window
You have a window of like hey everyone don't be too shitty about like for a movie
The window is incredibly clear and it's your window is until the end of the movie leaves theaters
Eventually it'll be gone that that time period between it leaves theaters and it hits DVD or whatever
I guess you didn't care. So fuck yourself. Yeah, except for this one, which isn't leaving anytime soon
No, just like what happened with those Lord of the Rings movies and shit fucking cracking billions on this
Yeah, you know, but what else to be expected to be like this is one of those moments of like I bet you everyone
Involved is almost looking at these insane gangbusters numbers. I'm using that wrongly again. Whatever. They're looking at these insane huge numbers gangbusters and
they are
Basically going yeah as expected. Yeah
This is what it should be. Yeah, anything less would have been a failure. Mm-hmm
Like yeah, I bet you they had they had multiple
Like goal points goalposts and I bet you there was a possibility that they could be number one and still be a fail
Yeah, yeah by not hitting number one hard enough and like I could just think of a boardroom over with DC
Go on. Oh, why didn't didn't just asleep do those numbers? Oh?
Oh, I guess people hate Superman. I guess that's the reason
Mmm, and I bet the people over there at the dark trilogy their dark universe
Whoever the fuck that even is
Going oh we couldn't that could have been us
The more every time I walk out and hit the credits on an MCU like
Usually Steph and I have a nice big discussion about whatever references she might have missed based on comic things
Yeah, and like little hidden bits and pieces where it's just like here's this was this and it's like oh cool whatever and it always
always inevitably goes back to
the ultimate I told you so and
how stupid
everyone was in the early days of comic book movies and
It like I don't mean for it to always go back there, but it's just it's so hard to avoid a story
What are you talking about? Well?
I'm just talking about how like I will always go back to the how in how stupid everyone involved was like
Marvel was stupid for trying to sell
Every one of their properties
It is up there to my knowledge with like one of the biggest entertainment blunders ever
It's it is the it is number one. I can't think of anything
It's actually no it is number one like you literally sold the golden goose and you could have and it would have been worse
Like I had to buy back most of the right the fact that they that Marvel gave
Spider-man away for whatever seven million or whatever fucking, you know
Be measly measly offering
And then gave them the rights to keep it in perpetuity as long as they kept using it on a time limit
Right and then said if they didn't want it, they would just stop making it
It's like what fucking studio would stop making a thing and then just you know what I mean like fantastic
Rather make out made that is like the worst piece of shit ever that God made in two parts
Just to keep the fucking just to keep it never even released if I remember right why I was like, why would you expect anyway?
So the level at which Marvel was like
Unconfident in their own like property and the how much they thought movies were worthless and slash
They couldn't do anything with them the ability like the amount of like just underestimating your own value
Yeah, right and and it is unbelievable and then the fact that like these studios came in and like saw a crazy-ass deal
Sony rejected every other character because quote-unquote no one gives a shit about anyone besides spider-man
Right like the out-of-touchness
With everyone involved of that of that era blows my mind and I keep going back to it because it's like that was the exact time
And Fox as well
They got X-Men and then you know they they did what they could but like even when you're tanking with it
And you're not because you don't know how to make a good movie yet because you don't know what it is to get
Like solid staff. You don't know who the solid writers are. You don't know who the people aren't it's like
Secret hey, why don't you go find the people that wrote the comics like it?
So it just it it really really like there's a there's something inside me that always goes like
Man, I'm I'm just Vex at how dumb you all were because
Like I guess I just got lucky happened and I happened to be a kid that was reading comics early on at the time when this was going on and
Could have easily pointed and said yeah the ultimates. That's a really good
You should look at that as a like that in fact
it was actually designed to be cinematic Mark Miller wrote that and he got Sam Jackson and it's it's literally like
Presented in a cinema a cinematic way. Yeah waiting for adaptation for you
Just just do camera cuts on these panels do it the writing is solid and the pacing is solid and everything about this is done
Really well and all you really need to do is just give it a chance
Yeah, you know if you happen to pick it up open it and give it a chance and
No one involved with any of the decision-making the money or whatever
Really because they're all 85 year old dudes that remember fucking talkies in shit go on all these
Coolies max wrong woolly wrong crazy talk. Okay. I don't I didn't read I don't care about ultimates volume 3 and beyond
Ultimates ultimates 1 and ultimates 2 I think those were great reads. I like I enjoyed those. I don't give a shit what you say
the fact that
In general, there were all these great runs that we've had
Early on in this in this life cycle, you know, and it just it got so underestimated and what and eventually
The and here's the thing too. It's like you got to see the lifetime where
So because people didn't give a shit about it, you got some bad movies out of it
Because no one's giving a shit. Yeah, and and by no one I mean like the the Hollywood
People that I saw Daredevil and then the bad movies come out and then the self-fulfilling prophecy
Starts to really bad people hate comic people hate superheroes
Well, maybe it's cuz like these are like video game movies
Basically, yeah video game movies never broke out and you're looking at and you're looking at Marvel on the
At the point where they were like fucking running out of money, you know, and they were bankrupt
they were getting desperate they weren't bankrupt, but they were getting there, right and
You just and you just kind of like
I'm sitting here and
Like other people I know that I've like also read like good comics that are like a fan of these things have just are just like
We know like there's good stories
If you took these stories and showed them to people they would like them because they're good
Yeah, you just you just have to show them the good
Don't make up your own bad one and put the name on it just to go. Hey look, you know the name cool
They'll come sit and watch a bad thing and so like I have I have like a
Additional like side thing of that which is I'm sure someone in a fucking
Studio at one point said
Comic book shit is too weird for the average movie going audience
They like westerns and dramas and rock etc, right?
but then I think
Like do you remember that Hollywood put out a fucking movie called Zardaws
Yeah, do you remember shit like that? Yeah, okay?
And at the same time I'm reminded that was actually a relatively recent quote from somebody over at fucking DC movies
about Wonder Woman before after fucking Superman came out said
Wonder Woman's too weird for the movie going audiences and not only did that turn out to be
Way untrue and isn't that like the most successful of the DC ones before Sam Wonder Woman?
Yeah, it was because it was the kid was the good one
That was the same week that the fucking Guardians trailer dropped and everybody found out about Rocket Raccoon
Was it talk about oh, this is too weird for the movie going on yeah
Um, I also fucking space raccoon and trust me and I get it that I see you chat Heinz
2020 it's easy to say that in retrospect
But I'm telling you that I in the moment that these like in the moment that the shit was happening
10 years ago. I like even 15 even before we got like the Avengers build-up moment of the first Avengers movie when it was just the
Individual movies coming together like I was still really upset about just about this whole thing because I'm like
This is there's a basically a problem that existed where comic books as a medium have been out for forever
They've been they're quite old at this. They're old and they've been goofy dumb
Cape shit as people say yeah for a long time and
the good ones have been far and few in between and then eventually got more and more like
frequent but
The the the thought process of everyone involved with these business deals was old style
Comic books are dumb kid things who's who can who the fuck cares?
They were not even aware of the fact that like there were good things being done
There were not there like I bet you they didn't know about Sandman existing at all
You know and the fact that you'd look at it and go like the same writer that wrote
These really successful good books also wrote a comic and guess what writing is writing
So if you give it a chance it can it can work what now that's
So
Anyway, it really was just one of those things were like if it felt like you could just if you felt like there's nothing
You could do to let people know it's almost like how we when we like we play games and we kind of are like we're big fans of this particular
Genre we know exactly like oh man
Just do the thing that we've seen you know this one and this one and this one and also this one and you made the best game
Because we know yeah, you're sitting here. We're aware. It's like and like and like there's no they're just too far
The distance is too great. They just don't know and they're like that should we try this? No. Oh god
What do we do? So it's it's and like thank fucking God, right?
You got like they they they eventually got people on board like Joss Whedon and such to just kind of come in and go like
Okay, Corral this fucking thing and then eventually the Russo's wrangle it up. Just exactly
You know and whatnot and then they're like, okay. Yeah, so we know how to get people involved that like worked on
The like like like this shit before who's who've done good writing for it
We know how to get people involved that know how to fucking write scenes right great great dialogue and whatnot and not just like grab
whoever would be coming down the Hollywood production studio like like
Fucking production line where they're like up-and-coming director
Sure grab that person grab this producer over here like you know what I mean like because there's there's a factory to it
so and that's that's where I want to cut in for a second because
Everything that you're saying is right, but back seating in industry, but arm-chairing. It's not all back seating. It's called arm-chairing
Everything you're saying is right, but no one actually learned their lesson see Marvel and the MCU
I can I can feel how angry people are with
We're talking about comic books. Yeah, we're talking about I'm just trying to convey that
I'm just trying to convey that now that this shit is the biggest thing ever. That's cool. I'm glad we got here
We almost didn't and I'm really annoyed that back when I knew like back when things were things were always
The potential for it thinks to be as good as they are. Yeah was always there
I always think that the most direct comparison is how stupid the idea is that comic book stories are too dumb and too for kids or
Whatever to make a good successful movie when
Star Wars came out in the fucking 70s and blew the fucking top off the earth in terms of success
Mm-hmm, and that's a that's a fucking comment like that's a comic book story
It's a bunch of fucking magic wizards with lightning sword, but more than anything. It was space. Yeah, right and that was
So the everything not hindsight it's literally what I've been yelling from the first
It's not hindsight if he's been saying it for 10 years before
Before you knew who I was I've been yelling about this
So here's the thing right you're right and nobody ever learned that lesson and that's the most depressing thing
Because what it actually happened is that rainy made spider-man one and then Fox made X-Men one and those were really successful
And then instead of learning any of the lessons that you just said except for Marvel when they got their rights back
It became oh man, dude
There's a lot of comic book IPs
mm-hmm
We ran out of ideas for real movies and then we ran out of
Any of those Tolkien books now they're done
Oh cool
They went back into the Hobbit right and then they started to do the comic books and now that's not it
You can't even do those fast enough because all the studios grabbed up the big ones
So now they're going through every fucking young adult fucking novel series
Maze Runner and fucking Hunger Games and my favorite is the headline that I saw alongside the Avengers shit
Which is apparently Tom Holland and Daisy Ridley big superstar spider-man and Ray
Starring in a young adult novel adaptation apparently called Chaos Walking that has been deemed
Unreleasable by the studio, okay after
$100 million of filming and needs to have like half of the movie reshot
Because it's like the worst thing ever made. Oh man. Yeah
Because who cares how much money you throw in the toilet
It's not based on one of them dumb kids books like the Twilight or the Hunger Games
It's this is it similar enough. Is there is there a death game aspect with a bunch of kids and I don't I have no
I'm zero idea what that shit is Wow
Zero unreleasable. That's that's the quote from the exactly
Can't get that out
Yeah, I mean look there's there's a million issues that that you know one can go on about and like
I think we've touched on it a couple of times, but the like self-perpetuating problem of how
You can only have 30 names in Hollywood that actually draw people to movies at a time or so and
The idea of like just getting new people as
And like as much as I used to shout that the realization that no they don't want to get new people
Not only can you not get new people if a person's old and good enough they get to stay around for like 40 years
I mean, what was that right?
There will be a big action movie that casts fucking Will Smith as a 25 year old. Yeah, three or four years from now
Yeah, the trailer just came out. Yeah, wait. Seriously. Yes. What movie am I talking about? Are you dead? Are you joking? No?
They just released a trailer for a Will Smith movie where he fights himself
But he fights himself from his Fresh Prince days, so it's current old grizzled bearded. Well Smith versus young
Flat top will Smith and he's digitally edited to look like he did circa will Philadelphia and
I'm gonna count this not as a stupid moment, but as a win for my point
Like if you're a big enough in Hollywood you get to stick around forever no matter how stupid it is
Literally, they made a trailer for that and it's will Smith versus young will Smith. What is fuck?
Gemini man. Sure. All right, the Mega Man boss. Okay
Yeah, so
The point remains that like that the only things with brass balls and or a name that matters more than the
Characters like Star Wars can choose to be like yay. We're getting new people
We don't want you to come in with expectations of what they are who they are based on whatever
I still remember tried it with the prequels. That was a bad idea
I still remember the day that I was like Chris Evans is gonna be Captain America. Really?
Yeah, that weirdo from Scott Pilgrim. He looks like a dumbass
While we're on the subject matter. I want to shout out. There's a video
That basically breaks down but there's different people breaking down video. I say it's we're breaking down their favorite MCU scenes
And one in particular
One marvelous moment and the one about the after-party. Yeah, that's my favorite is
Fucking amazing. Yeah, and in that it breaks down why the the party at the after-party scene in
Age of Ultron where everyone is trying to lift Thor's hammer is probably the best MCU scene. Yep. I would yeah
That's a really it's amazing and shame. It's stuck in that movie. It's it's really really really strong
Um
And but but the other thing that the video points out is that?
The casting director and I forgot her name. Yeah, but she I was telling this exact story to somebody else
Over this past week and had the same thing happen. She deserves
She deserves this name. We couldn't bother. Unfortunately forgot. Yeah, but the casting director behind all the MCU movies
Deserves a ton of credit because she did a fucking phenomenal job your thumbs up to you ma'am
The the biggest and brightest example being Bruce Banner. Yeah, because we tried and failed twice
Yeah, and then like nailed it
Fucking out of the party that second one especially stings me because I remember like me and like many other people go
Man, I should just get Edward Norton and sure enough
They got Edward Norton and then I went to see the movie. I'm like, they shouldn't have got Edward Norton
I was wrong. I didn't see that's not how I walked out of it. I walked out of it going like
Better than Eric Banner
Yeah, you know and like no
Idea how much fucking Ruffalo. Yeah, mr. Mr. Buffalo ruffles would do so
Jobber as that finding and finding a different line entirely, you know
And in general though, that was also pre fun
because like
There was a moment where even the MCU even when it started like putting this plant together
They didn't realize how important fun was yes, right?
There was still a moment where like the cool action and the and the the fun tech and and and CG
were like what they would build towards and they didn't invert the formula until
I don't know where the first point was Robert Downey did a good job for being just charismatic
Yeah, time through but like though they slowly got to realize that no
It's the jokes in between the action that everyone wants to see it's characters
Just kind of hanging out having fun into moments
And the thing about that is Joss Whedon is really fucking good at that
Mm-hmm, right all of his shows are really about that
They're about the characters hanging out and having fun conversations in between the action
See a Shazam. I didn't so Shazam is that
Like that's the whole movie. Okay, and
Dumb Billy that's and that's really what I really
Which is like comic book movies are are silly
Yeah, it's a silly thing to dress up in a costume and fight evil aliens. Yeah
so you should play into the fact that it's silly and
It's silliness is fun. Yes. It's it makes you smile
And it's just that simple and the revelation that like this is how you can make people enjoy these wacky
insane
Settings and premises is how Guardians worked. It's the only reason Guardians could possibly work. Hey, look
That that tree that can barely speak
played by the excellent Vendeezel is
the most popular character or
the simple fact that the way everyone that
Everyone that like did not know about them prior
Felt seeing that trailer for the first time is how the rest of the world in the movie feels
Yes, about that team
What literally who the fuck are you?
It was great
Anyway, so yeah, we can talk about endgame after we get through the rest of the podcast
I would like to say one
Thing about endgame, which is something that I saw Jim talking about Jim Sterling
Which is my overall feeling and not quality wise
That is a movie that was scientifically engineered to give you the most fan service per minute of anything that has ever existed
And it had to because it was the finale of a 22 movie from a from a like
Arguably 23 screenwriting or like whatever perspective. It is fascinating. It had to yeah
It is it is like a fucking Rubik's Cube. Oh, you can see and service. Oh, you can see the beakers boiling
Oh, yeah from scene to scene no question
It it it it what it but I got that same feeling playing Metal Gear Solid 4. Yes
You know devil may cry 5 and devil may cry 5. That's probably the yeah
It's same thing. Remember when you're playing devil may cry 5. Oh, man. It'd be cool if they all they did and
Reading steel ball run. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that. Yeah
parents car cowboys
The yeah, so we'll get into endgame later on game of thrones. I were still midseason
But I'll stay vague on it. I'm on the outside enough to say that
There is a review that is up on game spot
about that episode episode 3 of season of the final season and
I think that perfectly captures a lot of my feelings in particular
There was a whole lot of action. There was a lot of
pretty but there was also a lot of dark and
Cinematography would range between this is terrible to this is really pretty
But I have major gripes and I was massively disappointed
with
the episode as it went on and
I'm one of the people that is hugely bummed out at the moment, but still waiting to see where the rest of the season goes
So I don't even know how to respond to this because I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, no
Yeah, I know and that's fine, but I'm speaking to those who know
Yeah, I know, but I have to respond at some points of the conversation. Yeah, I think I think
Until we I don't want to I don't want to jump the fucking
Got on this and you know because it's not done yet. I really I really believe in waiting till the till it's done, right? Remember that
Like anyway, whatever
I'm eagerly awaiting. So you said it's the final season now. It's the final season
It's final season and we're in the middle of the final season and
And
Yeah, based on unless things change, I think they made a huge misstep I feel like
the actual events in Game of Thrones are
less interesting
then the
news article we're gonna read in
18 months on this podcast
Which is George R. R. Martin is at a convention and when somebody asks him
Hey, what's the next book coming out? He says
Just just watch the fucking show instead. Yeah, and then he is violently torn limb from limb from the crowd attendees
I I almost I one of my first thoughts one of my first thoughts last night was
We know George is overseeing
This whole season right apparently he's on the set or was on the set while they're filming. I was around the whole time
Um
Grum as he's become that's all right, and it Lee come. Yes, Grum. So Grum
Might just be
Watching this play out in a full metal alchemist type way where I'm not gonna do that one
But I am gonna do that part but like but like literally the maybe the reason why we haven't gotten those in the next book is because he's
Waiting to see how people react to this shit and then he's gonna swerve as hard as possible away from it depending on reactions
Oh, man, you know, so if he sees it and it goes, ooh
Yikes, he's just gonna go and drop that entire manuscript in the trash and go not that way and
Use this as a test audience. Maybe you know, and then he gets to in the future. Go. Yeah, I don't know about that shit
That was terrible. I yeah, my shit's the real thing and always was and pull a witcher
You know, it's
I mean about that situation you fucking galaxy brain, dude like
It's it's it's so use use the show to make your book series better by
Capitalizing I kind of expect for him to not even bother
I genuinely do think that he that that those books are not
No, man HBO show it's just early access, bro. It's just early access. Oh, yeah
And every early access game has come out into full release, huh?
So there haven't been any patches in a while man
And every time you bug the dev for updates he goes I'm fucking busy man
Well, you know, you know what they do they're working on Russ if that happens
I'm gonna call that they release the shooting script
In the same size and format as the rest of the books
So that pretend so that your OCD
Can correctly let you put that on the shelf and fit it in just like the harry potter play. Oh, man
That extra shit that came out afterwards doesn't count fuck off. It's written by her who cares
She says it can she says all sorts of shit. She sure does
Who are we to argue?
Can't really say much about it. Oh, man
I'm so fuck you can't say the story's over and then later go on the fucking social media to crib notes your own fucking bullshit
It's so fucking dumb if if if J. K. Rowling says that harry potter
Follows Netanyahu on Twitter. Oh, man, then yet then that's cannon
Oh, there's nothing anyone can do to take that away
I still think the funniest thing about J. K. retconning shit in the harry potter is that no
Joke that I have seen has talked the absurdity of the first real one
Which is wizards just shit themselves. Oh, yeah, like it's like nothing has topped it in absurdity
I keep going back to that and trying to figure out if they let the mess happen and then wizard the mess away
Or if they put the portal right at the hole
It's also unclear whether or not they like squat or they just go standing and just and it's also unclear whether or not
They magic it away or just make it invisible or that's what I'm saying, right?
So fuck and then it's like, okay
But what but then even then why stop at the hole like could it is it that they're creating a giant like portal hole where the entire
butt goes in or
Why not just magic it out of your intestine exactly, right?
Why go why take it to the source like it if you can create that portal hole
Just put that right inside your body and then it never even gets and where does it go?
Well, wherever the fuck it goes no matter what but my my point is if you can put in a magic portal
Where in the production process of your body? Do you put the portal?
Do you still and do you so you okay?
So it have to be at the end of your colon because that the colon still absorbs water, okay need okay would die, okay?
So so for the so it has to actually excrete. Yeah, okay. Yeah, there you go
That's it
Use the Yamato
The demon world is fucking just a whole bunch of human demon turns such sparta turns going on eat it
That's what she that's that's what we need it sooner telling us about the devil may cry world everything's fucking weird
That's the best social media ruined fiction
But it's like it's almost like if there was it then there she'd be saying that to someone in a coffee shop somewhere
Or it would come out in an interview and then decades later
Yeah, and then there'd be a newspaper headline going Harry Potter teleports his shits
Yeah, but like it's funny double door for that matter
Well, they do you remember let's say high school English class and it doesn't matter what the fuck say they gave you catcher in the
Rye or some bullshit, right? And they're like
What do you think the author meant by the fact that the Sun was setting through these windows and your fucking teacher would overanalyze all this fucking bullshit or whatever?
Because JD Sounder was fucking dead
right and
existed pre
Fucking like what was their newspapers are they interviewed him a couple times like all your books sucks
Oh, you mean cold in Caulfield was intended to be a character that you don't admire
Yeah, I fucking hope so because he's a piece of shit
Right, but now with the advent of our wondrous technology you can go to JD Sounder be like not based off my shithead brother
He's a crack addict, right?
done
Literary work ruined forever
We talked about we talked about Tyler Durden already been the past
And Tyler's a hero. He's the greatest man. I want to be just like Tyler Durden
What do you think Chuck?
You man, I'm gonna say it again. You idolized Tyler Durden. You got the wrong message from that story
Yeah, but you've also never seen a cool film that has someone yell at you
You're not your fucking cockies while the film shakes like crazy. It's so edgy. Oh, it's cool
You've never seen that effect before I've never seen it. You have no defense against it. I can't it's about infiltrating my brain
All right
Yeah, you need defense against the dark arts man. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
the the
The game of Thrones thing
I
Was gonna say just yeah
it is is is is it was it was it was it was it was it's it's a low point and
You know what I'll wait I won't say any more than that. I'll just say that well that sounds dire
I'll just say that like a wolf in my game of thr-
I'm trying man. Yeah
Um
Really pretty shots though, and the one things for sure you can see the money. Yeah, you the budget counter
Definitely was was was rolling
But it's hilarious because like every time a show starts out and it doesn't have that infinity budget yet
You always get everyone kind of forgets because especially in a show where it's more about the politics than it is about the these wars but like
You forget about oh, I don't forget
But I remember the how bad some of the early war scenes were in fact including episodes where they cut away from the war
Because they didn't have the budget to show you it. Well, I need you to do something for me
You need to go back and watch season one
episode two
1989 of Star Trek the next generation a
Fucking TV episode that is embarrassing on many levels, but holy shit that first season looks like crap
Yeah, it looks like crap
My the first place my brain goes with this is the show Rome
Which is about the Roman Empire is and Julius Caesar and history the grandest
ancient city to ever exist and
every time you'd have to cut to a
Battle
We just move the camera up to the sky
After we hire a bunch of extras to stand there because it's too fucking expensive
It's pranks my and then in the end like it's an otherwise good show
But it just can't afford these battles and then and then they just run out of money
And then the show is stuck being filmed between like four rooms. Yeah, it's good. Anyway
TV's awful
Get rid of TV. I mean
I don't disagree like if we all abolish TV
Like honestly, I think that the line between TV and film has gotten really weird because I saw people talking about the runtime of those
Game of Thrones episodes. I'm like, those are movies. Mm-hmm. It was an hour and 20 last night
It's it's like a season of movies. Yes. This is exactly what's weird. Yeah, that right. I'm not crazy
Really weird, but that's where we're at though, especially since
you know
TV like Game of Thrones is one of the shows that like kind of brought the prestige back to
The small screen in a way the idea that like Hollywood actors that were too big for TV are now willing to do Netflix things
because
you know the
before it was all about the Academy, but now it's like
Actually, you can tell a really good story in the course of a couple of seasons if each episode is an hour
I'm trying not to fucking throw up at the noise that is coming out of the people you're talking about which is
Like oh my god, just fucking go fuck yourselves
No, it honestly it takes a show like a breaking bat to come along and kind of go like hey
Hey that Malcolm in the middle guy made a bunch of you Hollywood fuckers look like the amateurs
You want to spend some time slowly building a character?
Alright, let's do it. We got a couple seasons to go. Let's end it when it's time to end it
There was a fucking article that came out going
Endgame and Game of Thrones prove that audiences love endings
I'm just like I can't do this right now
I can't conclusions are good and things that keep on going like
Homeland and whatever and and franchises that refuse to stop making some sense whatever
You know our top is the our trailing off and whereas the things that people are talking about now are these
Conclusive payoffs and it's like it's almost like yeah
It's almost like closure and a sense of you know
Closures a fantastic feeling if you have an emotional investment or a plan
Yes
Also that being said the biggest trick that Avengers Endgame
It's got end in the title like fucking thumbs up idiots
The last movie says the word like three times. Yeah, like there's multiple moments
Including the most obvious one where Dr. Strange goes were in the end game
But the trailer the end game now the title of the movie was not announced at that time
At the time it was just Infinity War part two and they're like we can't tell you it'll be a big spoiler
But right like he almost could have looked at the camera when he said that like we're in the end game now
so the funniest part about it is that it's like Avengers Endgame is the end of the
MC was Spider-Man comes out in a couple months as
Part one of phase
Five
Like said though that he could argue that it's the 23rd movie
What whatever like it's clearly debatable
This is the end of the infinity war thing. They're not gonna make a shit zillion dollars and then go okay guys
We did it. We told every story that don't build up to anything ever again
Yeah, I think what makes more sense is
As much as like it wraps up and then there's and then we've got far from home coming out
It would make much more sense to start it after this point
But when you know that we're gonna get
If you think we're gonna get a clean clean clean start, it's not gonna be that right now
Like the new saga is still gonna have leftovers of course because we know that Dr. Strange 2 and Black Panther 2 are coming
Yeah, those are part of the new thing therefore the new thing and now everything that happens after that will be part of the
Saga so that at one point 12 movies away
We can have an end credit scene where somebody says the word mutant once
Maybe
Maybe there's also a bunch of TV shows coming. Yeah, I bet a bunch. Yeah, there's a rule
There's a rumor held off on some of those announcements. Yeah, but
There's a there's like a literally a rumored
What should we call it Falcon and and and
Winner-Soldier movie. There's a Loki thing that they then announced
Let's not go too deep into those before we get to the thing because Marvel's I feel like Marvel spoiled their own shit
But they did they announced shows whatever. Yeah, okay, um
Anyway, so
Yeah, how's your week? What's up? What'd you do? I bought a cube. Mm-hmm. Did you see the photos of the cube?
Um, I saw you enabling memes. Oh, yeah, so I like to go
I like to enable memes whenever I post a stupid picture of myself or whatever. Yeah, somebody makes a
Transparent fucking version of it within like I want to say an hour. Yeah, and then I instead of just like
Giving that a like I know I post that I'm gonna go go for it idiots. Yeah, no
You are Snoop Dogg. Yeah, and you are taking a selfie
Saying meme me put an anime girl behind me new meme. Yeah new meme
Isn't me
Put on a random to put on two winter hats
I'm gonna I'm gonna cannibalize something plague said and put my own twist on it
Because he accuses me of this and you know what fuck it. You know what the best part about memes is
me
You can't spell memes without me
But okay, so I've been complaining about mouse and keyboard setups forever and you have had your own
Abominable progressibles into I've got I've got a little lapboard thing to by the way
I watch like some of your apex stream
I don't know how you don't lose your mind with the UI going crazy like that
I you for whatever reason you're able to just put it out of your mind like the button prompts going nuts
I mean it overwatch early was the worst of it. Yeah, I got used to that in this case
It really only changes when you're
Switching through a menu. Yeah game. You're not seeing anything. Yeah
But like, you know, I'm just like I don't have it like I'm put I'm on a little couch cushion with the mouse
It doesn't work. So somebody
Recommended to me again. It's been recommended to me a dozen times now
What's called a couch master?
Now if you go to name of the product that is the official name of the product and
On top of that
You go to that so it's on Amazon. It's wildly overpriced like 200 bucks and
You go to the product page. Oh
Man everything about it
Wants you to love it so bad you big gamer man
Cuz like one the old version
The new versions all black the old version was black and what I am now terming
gamer red
Well, you are familiar with the shade of red. I am describing
The shade of red that is on every fucking aces laptop
Yeah, the shade of red that comes off everyone's LEDs the one that's more or less crimson. Yes. Yeah
And it was gamer and the wrist rest were gamer red. Well, this one's all black. Okay, so
In the promo shots, they got the they got a little energy drink in the side. You want energy drink that is gamer
Got it gamer energy drink important
You know what you know what's branded at the top of that fucking lapboard portion a proud product by nerdy tech. Oh, yeah
this thing is
exhausting to touch and look at from like a
Brick and that doesn't come with a sponsor gamer jersey with your name on the back
I fucking wish and a fucking headset
So that's why I went in so hard and just called it a gamer cube because fuck it
Did you rise up? I rose up and my lower half of my body disappeared
Then you became modoc now that being said
Page came downstairs and looked at me in that shit and she laughed and laughed and laughed
Cuz yeah
You look like a modoc in that shit
Everyone looks like a modoc in that shit in the in the promo image try so hard
They have it shot from the side and it's it's a cool handsome man in it
And his fucking hot girlfriend is like lounging over one of the armrests and like toying with it
Ha gamer and it's like they're trying so hard to fucking get away from the fact that you're just creating your own
Star Trek fucking workstation
Let me guess it works and then
It's the it's better than my old computer desk. Yeah, okay. It is
easily the best mouse keyboard solution I have ever used
Including most desk setup, so does it not move?
By resting on your couch and or lap so the way that it works is that you have two big ass
Styrofoam leather encased the fact fake leather
Encased rectangles that are fairly high
They go about I don't want to say they're like eight to ten inches high right and they're wide their rectangles
But the squares on the right those sit on either waist right and then
On top of that you place the lapboard portion, which is a big
pretty fucking heavy
super wide like heavy plastic
Like keyboard holder that is wide enough to hold a full-size keyboard and a full-size mouse pad on it
And it's heavy enough that when you and the the cushions are sturdy enough that when you place them down
You snuggled yourself in and you push it down. It's not going anywhere. It's it's steady
It's heavier that like the the lapboard part is heavier than some of our sticks so so
What so it's what's keeping it from moving gravity?
and what is weight okay, but
What is it what is the bottom of the shape resting on the bottom of the shape is resting on your couch, okay?
It's not like going down to the floor no no no
Or two cushions your lap sitting to either side of your legs on your couch
Okay, and the main thing that's keeping it there is the fact that they're like sturdy
And they have wide bases and the keyboard and mouse portion is heavy as shit
But if you bounce in your couch the couch cushions gonna move which yeah, I like it can't put a drink on that thing
Did not only can you put a drink on it? There's a little drink holder, okay?
Will it tightly fasten into the thing? No, it doesn't tightly fasten it
It's remember it's like when you take the keyboard part off the cushions are free-floating cushions
Yeah, right, but when you don't have but when you put it on it's heavy enough that it just locks it down
Okay, so the weight helps counterbalance a lot of the way the weight makes it like it's the kind of thing where I bump
My knee against it because I like to sit with one foot under my knee
All right, and it just bumps like a half inch and look just like it is solid
Okay, when you're sitting it in it you're sitting you do your little weird fucking
cross-legged
like
Fit into the couch
seating thing
But if you're sitting with your knees going off the chair and going down to the floor normally, yeah
There's room. Oh, absolutely. Okay. It's got clearance. Okay
and
I've used it for about a week now. It's stellar
Page not only used it she used it on the one of her Dead by Daylight streams and like noted improvement and all like it is it is it is a
Actual solution to
Masked the keyboard on your on your couch. Okay, I've used a Corsair lap board
I've used
Numerous cushions around my place. I've used an armrest
I was even looking at like getting those wooden fucking mousing surfaces that you slap on the armrest
It's wider
But the biggest problem with all of that shit is that the height of your arm wildly varies depending on your couch
And at certain weird angles like it fucks your shoulder. It's no good this thing
It's good adjustable height. No, not adjustable height
But it's it's the right place for light if you're sitting on your couch
No, it's no because your ass is gonna be at the same level as
The fucking bottom of the cushion, which means the height of it will be similar to you sitting at a desk. I go
It just it
It's good and it's so overpriced. How much was it? It's 200 bucks. Okay, that's Canadian
So it's like 160 USD and you have to find a place to put it after now. Why would you wait?
What do you mean? Well, does it break apart? It's three pieces. It's two cushions and a big plastic like
Lap board. So, okay. Okay. Like I just if I want to switch my old cushions back
I just you put it on you put it under the couch. I guess no
I have I have my big I have a big fucking coffee table. So I just and I have a spot for it
So just put it on that
It's so like the the lap board part is so heavy that if you have one of the cushions to the left
You can literally just put the whole lap board and keyboard and your mouse on
The cushion and it will stay locked there not like physically, but like the gravity will weigh it down and won't move
So I usually end up doing that wait
You can put a cushion down. No, no, there's two cushions. Yeah, so when I get up
I just take the big lap board part and then put it on the left cushion
Yeah, even though like 30% of it like you know reaches across like over nothing. Yeah, but the keyboard side is the heavier side
So so weighs it down onto the cushion and just balances
Okay, so it's not you don't have to open up a gamer gate of no kind no then get up
No, no man walk away from so it's like really it's the kind of thing
Do you look like an asshole boy? Do you look like the just the stupidest fucking gamer asshole ever?
it's it's like
But it's bad. It's really bad, but
It's really effective and I can't even think of anything that I've even seen that would be as
Comfortable I would rather sit in this thing than sit at like a proper computer desk
Wow and
The problem is is that
Like you would too
But you have to look like an asshole
You're like and you feel like an asshole because you see it and you see you are an asshole. Yeah. Yeah, you are
But it but but it what do you value?
What's your value like I can tell you right off the bat that like I have days where there's like four people on that couch for
No, that's not gonna work purposes and that's just a problem. Yeah, I have very few days where
Like I'm actually like outside it like I'll pick a game where the keyboard and mouse matters to me
Yeah, but most of the time it doesn't yeah, no, I just same thing for you know
But I all you have way more PC game like the vast majority of my library is on the PC
But not even that it's like my my computer is also my living room media hub and
My and my TV is my primary internet browser and you know, like that is yeah
I mean, I've gotten comfortable with just like the the couch normal version of that for browsing purposes
Like it's only the only games I can think of where it really matters are FPS games and RTS games
Yeah, of which I don't play very many of them. That's correct. Yeah, you know
So it's it's
Back to the being a room
Nailed it. Yeah, and I'm just think I'm just looking and I'm like I'd have to fucking put that somewhere and oh
It's a dude. It's a pain in the ass, you know big like for for the few times that I'm in the mood for this thing or that thing
And that's it, you know
It's all it's all it's terrible
ruin your life
But
But it's good. Yeah
That's why not just one of those things
Why not just attach the desk to your gut, right?
Just create some sort of shirt with the detachments so that you can fit right in there like a nice like
Rubber ducky style like listen, well if I didn't have to come here on Mondays, okay
That'd be one thing but I do have to leave the house so I can't staple myself into the apparatus just yet. Hmm. All right
You know now what I would be literally curious to see is like are you like you're saying that there's a notable improvement in terms of
How it feels is there a notable improvement in terms of gameplay night and day. Yeah night and day
Have you have you played it like an FPS game? Have you got you loaded up apex a little bay packs? I'm like, oh well
If I decide to go back to playing this game, it's on PC now
huh
Period, there's no for anything like it is
Absolute night and day and the number one reason is because now I have a big fucking wide
Mousing surface for the map because that well they'm using a fucking cushion. That's the size of this fucking armrest over here
Yeah
Normally and that's fine for browsing the internet or even playing a pillars or the eternity RPG or whatever
But this dog shit for doing you shooty clickies, you know, you need a fucking 14 inch wide mouse surface
And now I have one. It's at the right spray height
And where did where did you where did this recommendation come from?
people in twitch chat and
Twitter over the past like a couple months actually hmm and then
and
Then the the the kicker was when I was like, I don't know and then I sent it to page
I'm like should I do this you fucking do it do it you pussy. I'm like, all right
that
The worry of the girl will think you are a loser. Oh, right. She already thinks that so it's fine
It's fine. I did see that you caught the attention of one Sun High legend or soon
He legend the the godlike gif maker of Twitter and that was pretty that shit needs the soundtrack to Brody Quest on it
And then it's complete that made me really happy
I
My favorite my favorite so my favorite thing about about my couch master
Is not that I am enjoying it or it's making me enjoy my video games more
It's a post from our reddit going. Oh my god, that thing looks so comfortable
But I can't buy it. I just can't I can't see myself sitting in that fucking thing
I can't I can't deal with it. I look like such an asshole
Good for you Pat for not giving a shit that you look like the biggest asshole that's ever existed. Holy shit
You're so pathetic. What a hero and I'm like, yeah, I
Mean, it's not truly complete until you're rolling around on one of those Walmart chairs
You know with the lab couch master gamer master on the top part
So now that I'm now that I'm bought in I'm now I'm thinking that I'm gonna start
acquiring
Ironic gamer merchandise because I mean look yeah, you get the you get the fucking gamer booster chair
You get right you get the booster seat going so and then you put that on Walmart wheels
I want to get a laptop and then you're fucking gamer cube on the go
I want to I want to point out the the genesis of
Me deciding to put that photo out there because I was nervous. I didn't know if I want to put the clean rip
The facial expression you're making
Whatever I know no, so I took the photo and I sent it to three different people and
Within 60 seconds all three sent me back the same Google image search of a kid in a high chair
Okay, okay without any comment. Yeah, and I won't well now. I have to do it
Yeah, I have to do it because baby needs his high chair. There you go
Where are you going?
This you know, you see a branding opportunity you fucking take it
If you know some people get to be cool
Other people get to
Modok in their baby chair. No, no, no, no embrace garbage
Embrace trash. Absolutely. I have to it's it's what I got. It's where I came from get your get your get your gamer spoon
Open up and is that use your user? What is the gamer spoon contain?
Well, I'm just a gamer gruel. Why yeah at this point gamer formula really
They mix your gamer formula up and then you be you feed it to you with the gamer spoon and you've got the gamer bib go in
You know you got a little gamer rattle. Oh
I already have a gamer rattle
This is my Red Bull can with the tab broken off sitting in this in the center perfect. Oh, man. I
Don't know why that reminded me
Did I tell you about the assholes of my recent movie going experiences?
The did I tell you what happened to the fucking
Shazam showing that I went to no fucking assholes are coming up the side of the the movie started
it's it's going and
assholes coming up the one of the aisles with their fucking
phone out and the flashlight on
Doing
Turn off your fucking phone. Wow. We're looking for our friend
Fuck off turn off like like a full minute before and they ended up leaving the theater
That's amazing because they couldn't find their friend and that was Shazam and then an end game
Me and me and my pal Dan sit down. We're sitting. We got
All the way in the back of the at the theater top row middle seats. I'm so happy and then
There's one seat next to me. It's empty. There's like three or four guys to our right
right
Nice looking man. It is nice looking girlfriend come and they go hey
Buddy to the guys. It's my right. Oh
This empty seats mine, but my girlfriend supposed to sit in this one. He goes no other start seat
It goes I
Have my ticket. He had his tickets in his hand. It's like no
It's it's this number. Yep. It's this number and he goes no no it goes
Okay
And he leaves to go it just took to leave and as soon as he does that like and as soon as he becomes clear
He's not going to find a different seat. He's going like that. Oh, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine
Okay, and they all move over one and they sit down and I go what the fuck is he thinking is he's like
I don't know. This is my seat. He's like, okay, well fine. Yeah that little gripe
He had that gripe moment you have between people at a theater. Yep
10 minutes go by moves about to start
Four people mm-hmm from the right side show up and go hey
Yep, these are our seats
No, no, they're not
Yeah, no the we have our tip
Fought and like they all just got huh. Yep. Yeah, and they
Saunter down and saunter down to get to the all the way right side of
the dead
First row in the pit
mm-hmm at the bottom of the theater because every seat is sold and
I look over the guy next to me and I go what did they fucking think was gonna happen?
Did they think that like
Five or six different people on opening night. We're gonna go. Oh, okay. I guess you're right
That wasn't my seat pieces of shit and fucking peace out like pieces of shit aren't thinking
They're just doing because life is giving them the opportunity and there's a social contract that everybody
Operates under like they don't think applies to them because it doesn't feel good. I
It's really simple. It's like people are gonna show up for these seats
Yeah, but I don't care because I want to watch the movie
But then you're gonna get kicked the fuck out you dumb idiot. That doesn't matter. I want to just I don't know look fuck him
Oh, man, fuck you me and see that's the part where I get disappointed is that they've moved over I
Would as I would have like my kingdom for a fucking theater altercation, you know
Yeah, well, I mean because it's like you're either because when you encounter that you're either getting
Someone that dumb. Yeah, or you're getting someone that's like willing to go criminal
Yeah, you don't know which it's gonna be it's like and I'm a little bit over the side
So it's just all it's an extra show for me, but it didn't happen. Yeah, no the assigned theater seat is a nice
example of
Just when and how often
Expectations that someone will just like it's really simple all you have to do is kind of show up turn your phone off and
Not really say anything while it's going on. It's not hard
Also, don't bring a baby with you like it's it's really really really don't bring your baby
But no, this baby's good. No shut up. Bring your baby challenging for a lot of people, you know, um
It really is and it's and it's kind of like
That whole thing about at first the hearing about the Alamo draft house and all those like high expensive theaters was like
Oh, yes, go sit in your fucking tower your ivory movie theater tower in the sky
Yeah, but it's really kind of like no, this is where we can get a normal movie experience
Yeah, this this all these extra accoutrements
I've been made just to get it back to what should be normal that like I don't need the couch. I don't need the food
I really would pay nice. I would just pay for the level of shut the fuck up and stick your seat
I just want a movie theater with bouncers on every that's it. That's literally it
Doesn't matter the rest of matter the rest is gravy
I'm paying for the service of just shut the fuck up turn the thing off watch it, you know and and
There's just there's no in-between ground on it because
like theater experiences
Require a crowd like if you really really hate it, you'll just always watch movies at home. Some things are better in a crowd
Sometimes you get a shit crowd. Sometimes you get a shit crowd
Yeah, I think I don't think there's ever gonna be a crowd that was as good as the one that we saw Grindhouse during that was the
That was the best crowd. That was a really strong crowd came for egg
Understood every moment was there for the reason. Yeah. Yeah
I mean the crowd that you get on opening night is generally gonna be the crowd that cares the most about the material
Yeah, right
Or unless it's the Tuesday right after in which case God fucking oh
God have mercy on your soul
Because it that just comes down to pure economics and let's take all the kids out for a cheap movie night
Because we got five of them and we're not paying $30 for every kid to get in here. So
like
Tuesday nights are the worst
Hey, man, I can spend the money. I would have spent on this movie
Getting high before the movie. Yeah, thanks, bro
No, I I've
Had a couple years go by in between like all the friends are going out to watch a movie on a Tuesday
And every time I walk out I always go never again
And then I and that never again lasts a couple years until I forget the last the last time
I saw a movie on a Tuesday was eight years ago
Smart and it was a
Fuck I forget what it was. It was a Marvel movie actually and I almost got into a fist fight because the guy next to me
Just would not shut the fuck up the whole time
Like loud like I'm like and I was like dude
Be quiet and he like got up out of his chair. It was like you won't go. I mean I and it's like
All right me and like miss me
10-15 minutes of the movie because I had to go get security is like hey this dumb motherfucker next to me is like
It's trying to like threatening to kick my ass because he won't shut the fuck up
But not just me me and my friends are watching
So it's got to be like two hundred percent me
Because I've got to really back up the fact that all the bullshit I make up all the time is real
Oh my god, it's so like me bro
Yeah, I suspect at some point. We're gonna get headphone slots. I
Said I imagined that'll happen at some point. I would never trust putting my headphone
Cable wait. No, you can't get headphones slots anymore
Headphones don't use cables. Oh, yeah headphones are dead. All right. So connect to the Bluetooth
Like that your 3d glasses have a little fucking over the year. You know, you know what fuck it
Care the d-box row should be encased in glass. Yeah, sure
Why not fucking yeah with flaming pikes on
Yeah, yeah once the movie starts remember turn your phone off don't be a Susie seat kicker and
D-box chachink with the fucking blades
Yeah on a moat it's just to keep the riff-raff out
It's so bad, and you know what and fucking take that entire d-box throw and just elevate it a little bit
So that whoever's behind you gets just gets fucked like too bad
Not in the d-box. So while we've been talking about this mo bemoan your station in life
I've been seeing a lot of people talk in the chat about apparently having a lot of places in the US those assigned assigned seating just
Nope doesn't exist
As in they do it, but no one cares. No, just they just don't do it. Yeah outside of special events
Yeah, I remember when a science seating started here
It was originally just for the iMac shows. Oh, exactly and then
Super AVX shit. Yeah, and is now everything now. It's always a sign price. Does it solve so many fucking problems?
Yeah, yeah, yeah the amount of fucking I remember going to Disney movies
Yeah, with my family with my mom and dad my brother and sister and just having the fucking asshole that had like three coats
But no no no the whole row. Yeah, fuck you bitch
It's not the whole row. I dude at packs
I was going to eat dinner at at fucking or lunch rather and like I remember and like in that crowded cafeteria area
And this one stupid fucking kid is just sitting there on his phone and then I'm like, okay
I'm gonna sit down here. He's like, oh, I'm use the tables, you know, and I'm like, okay
and like I grab a little stool kind of next to it and I sit there and
Begin and finish my entire meal and watch as various other people walk up have the same interaction
Find other like literally complete their meals and then like 25 minutes goes by and I'm like also taking a break
So I'm like after I finish my meal. I'm like, let me just like I'm gonna chill man
And watch as no one comes you tag back in nothing could nothing goes on. No, and I was like I was like
I'm like do I do I just point out to this dude that he's a piece of shit and I was like now fuck you
Oh, come on. I didn't I did mine. It's fun. I decided not fun. Yeah
Cuz you're so right and but like you're just sitting there and you're like pushing away everybody and it's like dude like
Either you're and then he starts doing the thing while okay
Everyone's staring at him where he starts looking up and around to see if they're coming around the corner kind of thing
I like that and for a half second. I'm like, are you just lying and you're nervous and you need a lot of space
So you're just making up a lie
Because I feel like you might just be making something up because you just want space
that's the fucking out of the house like restaurant equivalent or food court equivalent of
Of
Like ordering five pizzas and like turning to your empty house going hey guys the pizzas are all here
We I got some for everybody and the yeah, it's a big party. Yeah having it back there. It's a lot of yeah
There's a couple there's a reddit post of some comic shop that just just showing you a stack of
Theater of fucking movie tickets and just going like guys. We finally did it
We finally did it. We bought out the entire theater for one screening event game
Yeah, and if you come on down to our shop and spend at least
X dollars on t-shirts and comics you get a free entrance to end game
All right, so come to the screening and hey like we we and we and we won't be selling out the first couple rows
So it's okay like good seats only all right and just fucking scalping
The entire movie theater. Yeah, because that's what they decided to do just like
Pieces of shit will be pieces of shit man
There's not much you can you know you can point at them you can you can probably should have but I didn't I was like yeah
You know you get a like cuz you're like a big guy. You don't have to worry about like them going like a crazy
In most situations, I mean again, it's well
Anyway, yeah, yes, but no because also when you're in another country, you never know
Yeah, also, I've seen a lot of people fight hobos back in my grocery store days. The real worry is the bite
Now that's and anyone of any strength level can bite you and a human bite is an is a nightmare
Well honest though you say that but that's not the real worry
That's actually a practical one that you never really hints or inches spit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah
You don't really you don't really anticipate that but that that happens often enough
Yeah, and that's a bad one. You know what has a lot of bad in it human bite. Yeah
True you ever hear of a fight bite. No, it's when you punch somebody in the mouth and
You fuck up and you you bite yourself with their
with their face
Like you punch them in the mouth in such a way that you cause the bite to happen to you
Happens it used to happen with bare knuckle boxers. You can get your hand amputated from that shit because our mouths are some fucking toxic
Fuck okay
Well, anyway, um a sign seating is great. Oh, yeah, but I don't have to bite nobody to get your good seat. Yeah, I
mean admittedly like
Like admittedly there there can probably come a time
Like it like we'll see how things shape up because we got we got from those I think to a science eating
There could come a point where it's like sit down in the seat
Beep your fucking thing on a little light next to you and it turns a little light green
So that anyone walking by can just make sure that the lights green and if they don't see a green light
They go get the fuck out
I just realized that there is one downer to a science eating and it's probably just for theaters
Because back in the day you'd get your ticket and you got there late. Guess what you're in the you're in the pit
Yeah, now
When you get to look at that I max row and you're like nobody even bothers to buy those pit. Yes, exactly
That's great and and line-ups don't matter. Yeah, I I went to end game. I fucking showed up at like 940 for a 1015 show
Line-ups don't matter and walked in got you know navigated the crowd
What's the bathroom I remember all the different every theater in the main Montreal theaters that we know we've sat on the ground
Three hours for each one of those
Yeah, and then you still get a kind of shitty seat
You just don't get the pit
It's it's they solved it man
And if you are exactly you take a look at the screening and you just go like nah
I'll just because I still to this day like I don't remember where my seats have been in movies
For at least like almost a decade now, right? Like I really don't remember
But I fully remember where my seat was for Kill Bill
Because I was down in the second row on the extreme right and it made the movie going experience
Beyond worthless. I forget what movie it was but I was in a similar seat
But I was actually in the pit look it was one of the X-Men movies looking up looking up and and it was 3d
Yeah, I was like
This is worse than just staying like this is the worst thing that has ever happened and the stupid thing about that is from
What I've been told at the very least
They're not supposed to do that because the film like is they're given doing hang a lot
There's a viewing angle that they're given that your theater is supposed to adhere to yeah
It's a shit right and so but they're like we can cram extra seats in here
So yeah, you're like literally the theater is not supposed to do that, you know, so
Yeah, I should have walked out of Kill Bill, but I didn't I just want to go see it again
You know, but the first time it was an audiobook to me and it like I will never forget that so it's just
There's just get rid of those chairs because there's really no points even being there
I'd rather fucking watch a movie and a fucking airplane seat than in the fucking pit
Put the babies in the pit make it sound proof
We talking about movies are we just talking about
All right anything else
Played some Dragon Quest 11 some prey nothing really did nothing new to say about those things
They're good. You play you play Dragon Quest. I played this one. This one's good
Did you have to leave your your job as a salaryman to take the day off I did I did that's my day off game
Is that has that formula changed much or is it still more or less? It's aggressively unchanged. Hmm. It's like
There is one interesting thing to say about that it is like classic to the extreme
To the point where it reminds me about like shining it had similarities to shining force from like 92
Because you save at a church and it plays a little jingle like it's
overtly stupid classic
Mm-hmm, and in some ways that's like really oh, that's nice
but it has one feature that like made me like question what RPGs even are and
It has the persona system where you can have like AI routines for your characters
But you can give it to your main character too
So it plays itself you can have every single character in your party on fight wisely
Mm-hmm, and they do and they fight probably better than you or I know because they know the AI knows when an attack will kill an
enemy outright and
And
The regular random ass battles. I mean they're not that tough. So I'm just going through a dungeon and
The game is playing itself, and I played like four or five hours, and then I was like, ah
What am I doing? What is this? It's progress quest. Is this a game?
You're literally my progress because I'm and but I'm thinking like I could just set it to manual
But it's slower and in not getting much out of just going through the motions because I know how to do all these
RPG battles you're passing your way through a dungeon and
I you know the boss fights are tough enough that I'm like I'm switching to manual control and doing all those but it's like and
I'm like what it like this ancient form of RPG, right? The turn-based classic
I'm like
Are the were these automated back in the day? Just you were the automated one. Yes, and
In fact, I would argue that even as late in the game as persona 5
It's still that because it's just more complication to automate new enemy. You don't know what its weaknesses. What do yeah?
Test out every fucking attack to reflect in the weakness strong against yeah weakness found now what did you ever play?
SMT-4 SMT-4 apocalypse where you get the fucking auto battle augment
I played four. Okay. Did you get the auto battle? I don't remember it. It's this. Yeah
It's just it if weaknesses are known it just slams them with it otherwise
Test until you find it and I'm like and then and then you're doing then you're doing the automatic fight wisely
Yeah, but you're just it's just it's just making you me move your fingers. Is this a clicker. Yeah, is this is it?
Does that matter? There's a chance you might get a miss or a crit. Yeah, but for the most part you're just doing it
Is ATB even structurally different enough?
What are RPGs? This is what this is it. This is like the game exactly. It's like and
This isn't even a diss. I I was very happy and enjoyed myself
Yeah, I get it, but I'm like am I watching of it is that what is what is this?
And then and then grinding is just doing that over an extended very relaxing to until the number goes up slightly and
As we all know Min like you look at computer RPGs like the the you know CRP G's the ones that are D&D ish based
You're like well
There's a lot of like synergy stuff in that a lot of positioning
It's like is that is that is that because there's rules see there's alpha strike rules and there's encounter rules
The most the most complexity and difficulty almost comes in when the RPG gives you too many choices
So like there's multiple optimal ways to fight. Yeah against the thing
So like we're playing say like FF 10 or for example and you're fighting a boss
And it's like oh you can just keep hitting it with one of these summons
It's like but or you could just bring in
the fucking Ronzo and then use his particular ability and then
Defend you're like you there's different ways to do it efficiently
But you really only just keep kind of stick with one
And if there's a weakness system involved in like you why would you ever do anything else? You know so like yeah bosses are
Puzzles you have to kind of solve. Yeah, but the rest of the game is just it's weird pretty automated. That's correct
Yeah, oh, I also what the triangle? Yeah, I don't like the weapon triangle. I don't care for it. I
Also played MK 11. Yeah
You play MK 11. No
That story is terrible. Is it it's really bad worse than 11 or worse than 10 much damn 10 was worse than 9
Yeah, that sucks every time they get away from a tournament by the way, there's no tournament in this again
Was nine a fluke. Yeah
Maybe and people said the injustice to story mode was actually really good
And it was one and ones was pretty decent
So the first one was the best one and they fluked into it because it was the first time anyone tried that shit the store
the story is
I streamed the whole thing and people can go back and watch and every like
10 minutes was why don't you just X or
But didn't you do what like it is okay?
Well, you said this many years ago on the podcast and it was a problem with fighting game stories. Oh
I hate masks El Forte. You're wearing a mask. I'm gonna kill you
That's the entire MK 11 story mode and they don't use the time travel shit very well at all
They really don't
It has
Characters get ruined in this story mode
And I'm gonna hey woolly
Who'd you really like an MKX? I like to codel con. Were you slightly disappointed by his role in the story?
Well chat is yelling codel jobber at me. You need to strap the fucking
That character is ruined for ever
I mean Nikali got fucking job just to so my choices are always fucking completely worthless in the end like
Like like ruined like he is he sucks now. I don't like him anymore
After the events of this story. Wow
I mean, he was kind of really dumb at the end of the last game anyway. There's no
Like if you don't care, I'll just tell you later, but no, I'm gonna play it bad. I'm gonna play it
Rhonda Rousey is
The worst voice actor in a game with good voice acting ever. That's unfortunate. She is
So terrible that I don't like Sonya anymore. I watched that I watched I did I did see a Twitter clip that was pretty not great
she is so bad and
On top of that Sonya does one or two really really
Like stupid awful things with the flattest shittiest delivery ever that like Sonya sucks now
It was a strange cast considering
She's not a voice actor
Nope. She's a fighter
that loses
If you wanted to do mo cap or like
You know 3d
Scan or something along those lines and you have a lot more to go on but as a voice actor
That's not her forte. Yeah. Well, whatever MK 11 story is really bad
There's one
Really awesome thing that happens
That's like the coolest thing they've done in
Since MK 9
It doesn't save it and the villain shit is really bad
Well, I'm not that invested anyway really
but cool and
Get ready for a reboot
again
For 12
Okay, well, I'm gonna play the game. So just stop but sure
Got it. All right
And also, I still don't like Netherrealm fighters
Like I'd much rather you talk about like what you think of the gameplay
Yeah, I played the story mode and then went I never have a desire to ever touch this again
Which apparently is awesome because it means I won't be dealing with what is apparently like the worst single-player shit ever
with those towers sounds
Like I all I've seen was Ed Boone's tweets about how he their
There's patches and some things are being exaggerated is what he said. I don't know
I don't like max going this is miserable
I I saw I saw some stream clips of like them doing some quick math on how how the seven currencies
Add up. Yeah to time and then I saw someone putting out a number that was like six thousand dollars or something like that
Yeah, and then I saw Ed Boone going that numbers
Bullshit, and then everyone's like Boone you're bad. You made the game grindiest fuck
Admit it and then they said that I saw them saying we're changing it. Yeah
which
You know
I'm barely even surprised anymore because I think I talked about it last time how it's like yeah
Yeah, you shoot for the moon so that you land amongst the stars
except it do that with making people angry at you and
PC version of
Shooting for the moon is pissing the world off. Yeah, then landing amongst the stars is pissing off only the most yeah like you know
Vocal and then people are more or less fine being grumbled
Yeah, and then the PC version for MK 11 is like a trash fire and it was removed from the games listing
I did not see that on on either on Twitter on the description or something. It says out now for
Xbox and PlayStation 4 and they just removed PC entirely is and then
The only other thing and it depends on it's a news article. I was laughing at anthem again, but
Please tell me we have a reset the clock on that news this week, but that's a thing didn't hear nothing
Okay, the game's an early access now. Oh that oh
Yeah, sure. Yeah, nothing happened. It's just someone said something dumb
Well, no, what actually did happen is they canceled all of the road map shit and delayed everything indefinitely and said
We're gonna focus on the game and had and removed dates for all future content. Oh
And then I put out that post saying hey
It's been 10 weeks since early access early access and everyone's like did you just put this game back in a fucking early access?
And the answer is kind of yeah, because there's now no there's no date on any feature in that game anymore
They're all coming later
The games rolled back and every release
Yeah
That's a weird one because even if you want to pull the ripcord you can't people bought the fucking thing they bought it
And all I can think of is like how long was that game supposed to be supported like two years three years, right?
Unless is that gonna is that entire time gonna be spent?
like
Fixing the base game like is there any sort of way you could like
Like just you boot the game up and it just says here's your code. Here's your money back
Here's your code to enter in to get like your your PSN bucks, you know, or whatever like here
Here's your voucher
Yeah, if any game got was the one that got hit with like a false advertising lawsuit
It'd be this one like out. You know colonial where it means that kind of petered out. Yeah, this is
It's like it's hilarious. It's like did you know that that anthem hit a peak of a hundred ninety one viewers on Twitch this weekend?
Mm-hmm
Like a peak thought 76 at 400
It's bad it's so bad. It's bad
Who by where's not gonna exist for dragon needs to come out?
Bummer man, where can people watch for where could be more anthem?
Yeah, hey, yeah, no, they can watch more of me in my cube being a big gamer
Over a twitch.tv slash angry's pet. That's switch.tv slash angry's pet this week
It's gonna be vampire the mass grave bloodlines and yakuza 6 which
Has a baby in it that
This shit's weird. You just leave the baby at a bar and just go do the yakuza shit for like hours
That's really weird. Yeah. Well, welcome to yakuza
Okay
As far as my week goes yeah, what up, man? I
What did I do? I got I got more more tattooing done yesterday. So shoulders currently healing
Progress going, you know things are things are happening
The insertion of like tattoo power into your body right now about
60% okay, do you feel stronger but
Your transformation level but the problem is that I'm also I'm also increasing the hundred percent further
Because I'm I've already added like a hundred and forty percent because I have like sleeve plants as well
Okay, so you just said
No, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna you gonna be a human canvas. Is that what you're aiming for or what?
I mean to the degree that I'm satisfied. Yeah, but I've always wanted that. What's the rule on on you?
Do you you go on above the collar bone or no? Uh if it looks cool, okay?
I happen to be above the above the chin. I'm a huge fan of the look of having like
Clothes on with tattoos peeking through the areas that you can see. Mm-hmm. I think that looks super
Luckily enough we have social media jobs, so we don't have to get real work ever again
well, I as I I told my mom back when she was like if you if you
Pierce your face and wear dreadlocks, then you won't be able to get a job
And I kind of very cleanly explained that I don't want to work anywhere that gives a shit about what I look like and
I most certainly and the same thing you won't like you'll have issues like meeting people or friends or whatever
The fuck it was and it was just like now you work for yourself
Yeah, I'm like I don't want to associate with people that have a problem with the way I look so that filters out
I know I think the real thing make you look like an asshole, so we're yeah now
We're in a place where I'm pretty fucking happy with the way I look meanwhile
I'll say that excuse me while I retreat to my fucking the fucking battle station. Yeah
Do your thing, but uh, I'm gonna keep going with it and yeah, I want to get sleeves
I want to do neck it doesn't feel great, but I do want to do it because I think I think it was that like bad
Is that like ow? It's out. Yeah, it's out the neck specifically. Oh, yeah, it's how but
You know lots of people do it
Mm-hmm, and in the end I it's just I don't like it's like yeah, but the end results worth it
So you just are you gonna get like a like a cat?
No the other way so that your belly buttons like a butthole not even remotely close. No, I'm gonna do that. No, all right, I
Don't know if my stomach is prime canvas material quite frankly. Have you ever it's not exactly a fucking six pack
Really, I will stop making fun of every single aspect of the tattoo piercing experience based on one factor if you get
the word ice
Tattooed some more or cool ice
Somewhere on your body in that font
I
Would do it like when I need the bottom of your fucking when when we're at when we're at the point that there's
There's so much. There's so many that it doesn't matter. Yeah, I'll do it
I'd have no problem with that. Oh, man
Because the significance of them goes down as you yeah, right to the mosaic because when you when you see like you know
Tattoo show or whatever as the lady or the guy is like the head to toe, right? Yeah, and then they'll go
Yeah, there's this shitty one on my elbow like yeah, what does that fucking matter?
Yeah, I'll drop a cool ice in there somewhere. Yeah, fucking yeah
I got a hero. I remember when we found out he was German and we both went oh, yeah makes perfect sense
Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, totally. No, he's only a hero because he leaned into it. Yeah, that's got more. Yeah, that's why
Yeah
Because you could easily just become the really shamed and embarrassed person who you know has become a recluse
Yeah, and then and whatnot
but anyway, so
What did I do? I?
Beatkiss had a zero. Yeah, did you know it at all?
That is I'm going to
Reintroduce it it is a game that is worth your time
It's currently on Steven switch
fucking amazing music
really great pixel art
simple-ass gameplay
presented with a really fun
story in between
Stages where you effectively you're just a
Platforming samurai and you got one hit and everyone else dies in one hit and you just got a you know do a perfect run through a
Almost like a super meat boy with a slashing button
Yeah, I felt like it was like mark of the ninja hotline Miami applied to it
Really really fun story is definitely like trippy and weird and interesting
Characters are like fucking
They're all every character is an extreme version of whatever genre or class they represent and
oh
That's not good and the game overall just
Of the game just overall fucking crushes it at each thing that it tries to do
Including when it decides to switch up the gameplay for fun to try different
things out like there's a
There's a like a little bike mission and you get to try using out your your you know your your powers and like a bike
Mission kind of setting almost like you know how like a near automata switches to like shmup modes
And you get to kind of use yeah slightly too often
Ah fuck off. Iker Iker is the best
That those shmup modes are not Iker Uga
There there's there's some of them are and some of them are not but
Yeah, and in any case the the mode switching and it is really really fun. It's not a zero super super sick
I'm gonna be playing it. What are you showing me a picture of? Robotnik? Oh
This just happened. Well, was that Jim Carrey? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you want to get real close into that? Yeah, that's good, huh?
Oh
This is gonna be good. Oh
This is gonna be good. Oh
That's fucking hot
Hell, yeah, lean into it me myself and Robotnik lean into it. Oh, man
Fuck yeah
Man
There's gonna be more new new bad forms of sonic than the classic
It's gonna be it's like there's gonna be its own thing and we're gonna see the two fan bases like jerk off at each other in anger
Holy shit
Wow, you're gonna have chubby sonic in an extreme edge adventure sonic
And then you're gonna have boom and fucking movie
Just clashing each other
Wow, I
Can't believe they're going that way with it. I mean fuck detective Pikachu was kind of like
It's like it's detective peak. What what is it where they figured it out? You know
Like detective Pikachu
Doesn't look as horrifying as you would expect this type of premise to look it doesn't sound as bad as it's you think it
You think it would be
They took they took the the actual reality of their cartoon animals to their logical conclusion
so
Eli did a really decent breakdown of like why people will never be happy with sonic and it's cuz Sonic's a fucking cartoon
Like he's there. He has no bearing on reality whatsoever. Yes. He has a fucking mono eyeball
Yes, so you're either gonna fucking do that and it's gonna look fucking creepy and weird
Yeah, or you're gonna try and make it realistic at which point it'll look creepy and weird and everyone loves something different because they love
I think that's not real decided to go just hey just do it real and
Whatever it looks like it looks like and that's when we got people like oh my god
Mr. Mine like the fuzz on mr. Mime's arms is making you want to throw up
Yeah, but like it's great
But remember too that even Pikachu before it became the movie mascot
There is the fat original
Oh chunk chunk. Yeah, yeah, pika chunk a lotty coming Pikachu
Yeah, that thing that everyone loves because that looks more like a dumb little rodent that can barely carry itself
Yeah, that's oh there's that's gonna be good. Oh man sonic movie looking hot
Where was I even fucking going?
I guess I was gonna say katana zero's worth your time and money and you should play it and you should buy it and I'm
Gonna be streaming that it is fantastic
Fucking excellent game especially after completing it
There's a very clear thing that I would like more of that they play they play with things in the game and
Then return you to the normal and then they play with other fun things and they give you teases
Mm-hmm, and you kind of just go like I wish they could expand on this maybe later. Maybe later, but for now
Grab that shit. It's it's fucking great. So you're gonna stream it probably gonna stream it. It's a good game
You should stream it. I
Played Power Rangers battle for the grid and
Is that game a piece of shit?
So it fits in with it fits in with all the other like
It fits in with the games like
Rising Thunder fantasy strike metal revolution like easy access fighting games. Yeah way
It has basics that like this is the first of those gay types of games that is like a Marvel type game
It's like it's specifically they have characters doing Marvel moves, but it's easy action easy action
Okay, easy operation. Let's call it. Yeah, the EO the EO
games and
But the difference is that those games like
Don't feel like their phone games when you're playing it
That's why I asked because it it looks like a mobile game. It looks like a fucking Marvel
Mobile game or like a those wrestling mobile games. It truly does feel like the mobile game
It what originally was except now
Responding to buttons and they've added the Zord to it
Um
Yeah, but they did get they did get some FGC folks to like come in and like add some shit to it
So that like seeing people talk is saying J-Wong helped work on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So they did definitely help make a tear with all the all the all the Rangers
So they there's some crazy-ass infinites and nonsense and it's full. Okay. It's full-on poverty
But there's dirty mix-ups and like there it's a it's it's it's full-on poverty
But it has the potential to make you go
Trying to be like the fucking modern Sailor Moon because you just you're playing it and it's nonsense
But then you call you so you call in a striker and do a fake cross uncross up and they get opened up from it
And it's just like you know, so it has those moments
So it's the most it's a type jank. You can feel the hype jank in there terrible fucking genre. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
EO that's awful EO. Let's go
Also remember playing that game at a fucking friend's house and I couldn't believe it. I'm talking about Capcom
Yeah, yeah easy operation if you guys aren't if you like that's obscure now
Well, just like walk forward and do a super sonic boom with the flick of an analog stick
Oh my god, what the fuck is this?
the weirdest thing about Power Rangers in particular is that like the lineup is
They're all like you have Billy and then you have Tommy has been not Billy. So you have Tommy and you have
Jason yeah, and then you have like the like yellow from a different
Generation yeah, and whatnot and then you have like you have like the black mass produced like soldier kind of thing
But you don't have blue
So it's no blue. You know blue. It's like a core color
So you're basically and like there's alternate costumes for for some of them, but it's weird
It's just weird. It's like the roster is not what you'd expect you'd expect here are six Rangers of the various colors
Yes, and then we are going to do the thing where we go. What generation do you want to play as yeah?
But that's not what they did that's weird. So instead they just pick specific people from specific
Generations of it, and I guess there's gonna be DLC, you know, but yeah, anyway
I thought that I don't know. I don't know what I thought about that game
Which game the game you were just talking about. Oh, I'm Rangers battle for the whatever. Yeah
Let's go play though. I thought it was kind of a joke
I thought it was like a joke fan game when I first saw it on max stream only find out it's a real game
Yeah, when you call in the Zords, it's it's basically like calling in the Infinity Stones and Marvel Infinite
Yeah, you know like just go go go play the the the Zoid fighter on Super Nintendo
And you're good, but but I will like you can here's the thing the real test as I explained when I was taking a look at it
It was like
When a tournament's done and you're back in the hotel room and everyone's eating and drinking and chilling
Yeah, can you pop this in and so it's fun and have some fun and the answer is you can pop it in for three games tops
Yeah, that's because it takes three games to play the entire roster. Yeah
So
That sucks. All right
Beyond that throw adventures at the Avengers at the end. Yeah throw avengers at the end
That shouldn't be that long actually, but
Feel like my thoughts on that are relatively concise. Yeah, there's a lot of little bits that I liked but yeah, yeah
That's why yeah, we can we can do like big thoughts are like relatively
News there's a big fucking breaking news right now with riot
If you saw people in the chat talking about that I did not people are gonna fucking walk out on riot
Because riots trying to block people from suing them over gender discrimination. What's happening? So riot
Well publicized shithole place to work riot games is apparently trying to block people from suing them
over being
Notorious shithole place to work riot games, which is causing a
Bunch of employees to threaten to walk out
like a mass
Kotaku and Waypoint and shit are fucking got any backstory on this
Well, I mean have you been following the fact that like riot is basically run by a bunch of macho dickheads
I haven't okay, right riot sucks
There's been this has been a long ongoing story for like
I
Want to say like a year coming kind of ironic the name of the company. Yeah, but go on
The the bait like remember remember the fucking diva
Music video and all those diva skins. Yeah, like they fucking stiffed the women who made those skins for example
Okay, and it's just how they didn't pay them. Oh, wow, okay?
They didn't get anything for it. Jesus. I think one of them got fired afterwards
um
But like it is just it is just an old-fashioned fucking boys club place to work apparently
Which has led to there was a big bunch of stories about this like a while ago
And people are threatening to sue them
Right and then they are trying to use the legal trickery to go. No, you're not allowed to sue us because you worked here
Which is having people?
Threatened to walk out at this point
It's a mess that shit's a mess
It's a think of
How do I put this?
How do I put this remember the the the shit that was going on at quantic dream?
But the rugby. Yeah, this is not a rugby cloakroom. Yeah, imagine that but just bigger
It's a bigger version of that place with infinite money. Yes, because the league is infinite money. That's correct
hmm
That sucks
Yeah, I don't know anything about this story. I had something to do with arbitration
Agreements people are talking about chat. No legal action allowed. Okay. Well, I mean clearly we're not
Super up to date on this but what so what's the part of it?
That's breaking right now the the fact that employees are threatening to walk out there over the
over the fact that they are
Trying to force people into private arbitration under some
California I think it away with not paying people that made skins. I don't fucking know
I'm probably wrong. I'd like to catch the details on that because that doesn't sound like honestly
I haven't fallen all that close legal
Yeah, that sounds that sounds criminals. So what?
Okay
Yeah, right continues to be in the trouble walkout right games decisions to try and block lawsuits filed against the company prompted an enormous
Eternal blowback. It's still wrestling with this is a waypoint article on
Waypoint on vice on Friday
Kotaku reported riot took steps to prevent employees from taking legal action against the company after multiple lawsuits were filed in the wake of
Kotaku's investigation into the studio's culture of sexism last summer
The reaction to the aggressive move prompted talk of an employee walkout according to two employees at riot
And an internal slack message sent to rights chief diversity officer to employees
Waypoint granted the employees an anonymity to speak about issues that could impact their employment. Okay talk of a walkout has been brewing
All right, so chats correcting me on certain details
It was not payment, but they did fire the woman who did make that neon Akali skin
You know the most popular one the one with the hat. Yeah, okay the ninja one with the neon
She got sick hand afterwards after the work was done. Okay, like oh come on
Okay, this is one of those breaking stories that it's hard to really
it to talk about because there's too much to read and find out at this point in time, but
Based on us guessing the news as we sit here and guess the news that sounds pretty awful
and
That sucks
All I did my my my riot like thing is just a big League of Legends
Sit in there for waiting for fight of light fighter a legend of fighters. Yeah, that's not gonna happen fight league
but
Okay, well, that's not where I was originally gonna go. Where are we going? I was going somewhere else disappointing. Oh
Fuck it's sick. It's a good way for disappointment
sure is
What do we got we can talk about?
like we could talk about the
the
unreunre cancellation of or delaying of Titanfall or
Whatever the fuck you want to call it
This is a really weird story for a lot of reasons like we could talk about the part where I made my piece
And now your piece has been on and now my now
I you know like my watch was ended and now I have to fucking roll out of the grave on it and get all bummed out again
So what are you talking about? But it's not cancelled. It's delayed whatever but
Effectively they just kind of came out and said yo apex did so good that we have to delay every Titanfall project so that we can do more apex
I guess and one of the things is specifically because we don't want to put the team respond through crunch
But here's the thing
When you use the word delay as opposed to cancel or shelved. Yeah, it's good. It's better. Yes
Because if you tell me that you're working on something until you announce that it's canceled, I'll believe
So when you're saying what you're lucky for you
I believe what you say Titanfall 3 is delayed right up until after apex is no longer popular
Mm-hmm
so
Mm-hmm. I find it interesting because this was framed as like listen. We we have the same staff
We could crunch them, but we're not going to which is
Fairly interesting considering. I mean like nether realms crunching people
I didn't everybody's crunching people now
I didn't like the wording because it was unclear what it meant
Because the quote was in order to fully support apex legends
We respawn are pushing out plans for future Titanfall games
No resources from the apex legends teams are being shifted to other titles and development here at the studio
Nor are we pulling resources from the team working on Star Wars Jedi fall in order?
That's the executive producer drew McCoy
They seem to imply
Whatever weeks ago that there were already separate teams on these separate projects
Yeah, and it sounded like they had four things in development
Which is a lot for a team like respawn. Yeah, but there was apex which is as we know huge breakout hit
Star Wars which as we know has to be a huge breakout must be big hit
And then there was Titanfall the new project and then there was Titanfall VR
mmm, I
Guess the decision was those things don't matter in the wake of apex and Star Wars, which yeah fair
What are you gonna? What are you gonna say? It just hurts because
Obviously Titanfall is the franchise that I care the most about of those three things. Well, so I'm not happy to hear that
So you're saying they should crunch them
Hmm. Yeah, they should crunch them to get your Titanfall
No, yeah, see exactly. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm being I'm being a dumb internet commentator
They don't have a bunch of people. They don't have the size bandwidth and
And
What are you gonna tell a studio? Hey, don't take on big contracts that pay yeah studio huge money to keep you guys like
Do you get the feeling that at this point unless the studio comes out and it's like we are not crunching our gang
That they're all crunching them
All the time every project I've ever been on had crunch time
Like
Crunch you say it as if it's like a new
Like no, I don't say it's a new it's but literally every product crunch time is a phase of development
The problem the bigger problem is that apparently for some companies, it's not a phase of development it's
Development is crunch. Mm-hmm
That's no good man that can't go on like that forever when your producer
doesn't allow for enough time or
And so in some cases it's incompetence, but in a lot of cases. It's over-promising
It's easier to
You know because people are really happy if you can deliver things quickly
Yeah, so in some cases you're gonna see over-promising in some cases you're gonna see under estimations, but
Every single project I've ever worked on
Has had a crunch time like I don't know what it looks like to not so it's fucked up
Yeah, you know and but but it it's pretty much just like we're nearing the end and because you know what it is
And it depends on what the nature of your job is right so like
Like QA in particular is a job that has no ceiling. Yeah, a game can never be too clean
right it is just
Tested until the like
The like date like how how few bugs you find just keeps going until like the chart it goes off the chart
But it never stops. There's no point where zero bugs exist. Yeah, so as
You approach submission
The more time you spend the better no matter what under all circumstances
Because anytime spent possibly finding that next bug is worth it even shitty non-productive time
From a compliance point of view you can the game can be clean
Right because there's a finite set of rules and if it adheres to those rules
Like unless really really particular weird things happen in particular ways, which is always possible
It seems like you can mark something as more or less clean
When you work on when you when you're an artist your job comes to an end
Yeah, you know at some point you don't have any more to do so when you're
Programming you're often going up to the last second
You know because there's always something that needs to be tightened up read you have to tighten up those graphics on level four
But no in some cases. It's just literally like
Can we optimize loading here? Can we you know like what can we do? Can we do something?
How come the movie business gets away with actually hitting their deadlines because there's
You watch a movie in one way and that's it. There's no
There's no player interaction
Involved in a movie. Everyone has the same experience
There's no variables that we don't know about until it's in your hands when it comes to a movie. I
Don't know man. I find it difficult to even understand this concept because
My only real-ass job that wasn't this crap was me working in that fucking grocery store
And for all the faults that that shit had because it was retail hell. I punched in
And then ten o'clock rolled around and I punched out. Mm-hmm. And then the boss would say hey
It's not done. I went you scheduled me to ten go fuck yourself. Uh-huh. And if they gave me shit
I talked to my union rep. Yeah, and then they'd tell my boss to go fuck themselves. You weren't specialized in a particular skill
that was a part of a
Multi-year production that sure needed you and your specific expertise
You know and people in the movie business are however
Yeah, they are and like I like I don't get it. How cut like the
Game devs need a fucking union. It's it's it's it's just it's really just bullying employees that are like
That care about their work
You know the amount the amount of times I've read the story of like yeah, I burnt out and now I work in software development and I go home
Right like
It's fucked
It's it's people that are passionate about what they're working on that they will in many cases depending on the size of the game
That passion gets will get exploited and just and you're searching for that passion when you're hiring
Right when you're taking candidates doing interviews
You're looking for people that have that the people that get obsessed with what they're working on that do have perfectionist qualities
That want to keep going at it. Yeah, that think about stuff off the clock and bring in a new idea the next day
like that's a great employee to help make your game be better, right and
Like the human battery
Aspect is not taken into account
You know, it's just
It's the way it goes
Yeah, it's fucking dirt it's dog shit man. It really is well like
Fucking union political issues aside. Do you think it's the kind of situation where if the game devs tried to unionize that?
They would get fucking swept and you'd see a bunch of studios get shut down because I think that that fear is
Exaggerated I think the ability to outsource
The entirety of development to other locations would have been done already if that was feasible union or not
No, they'd find a way
They'd find a way if they looked at it and just went like
like if they if they saw
if the cost of development
Got affected in such a way where like the union unionization process cut in
I don't even want a ballparker percentage out there
But the point remains that the amount that is enough for them to be afraid of it
Yeah, why wouldn't they just Walmart the situation and shut it the fuck down well because Walmart service industry, right?
It's not making a fucking
like I don't know like
My job like my job. Yeah, my job at one point in time
Was to create tools
so that they could find ways to go to other countries and
train other countries
employees
Across the world to be game savvy enough to QA at the level that we were
currently QA and games right and
My job was to create a test to show art to figure out how much do you play games?
How knowledgeable you of are you of gaming conventions and the basics of like, you know, what an RPG is what?
Yeah, you know a first-person shooter is what it's expected to be enough so that when you play it
You know what to do and what to look for and you know what a problem looks like when it's not supposed to be there and
And as a result there are no QA firms or departments in
North America or Europe
Well, I was specifically asked after the test came back and like a lot of people failed it
in their test area
That I was told to then drop the difficulty and make it easier to which is defeats the purpose of the exercise
It does but but you're when you're looking for a positive result when you have some confirmation bias in you
Because it's gonna make things like much more cost-efficient. I don't know. I remember, you know, do you remember?
You remember calling Bell Canada in
from
1993
2005 ever once I fought that by the way, just so you know, oh, I know, okay
I actually told the story of three four weeks ago. Okay, but you ever call Bell Canada for any reason?
No, and the nightmare that that was which was back in the day
it was it was the outsourced fucking phone nightmare and
It's like people whose the language was not English as their first language reading off a script
That they were not properly trained to do and I was like, it's the worst thing ever
and now
That's gone. They've actually rolled it back
because the damage that was done to those companies from that awful awful experience lasts and
That alone makes me think that it's like
Say, what are you gonna do you're gonna fly everybody in Trey arc
Out to some out to fucking see check republics. So you don't have to pay him properly see all just gonna go
No, that's the thing right is that I think it's a bit short-sighted to think that like it's just gonna come down to
Switching countries and finding somewhere where the unions don't exist or something like that
I think it looks a lot more like the situation with Montreal and
You be soft you be school. Yeah, you familiar with how that works. I am not familiar
Well, it's quite simple here in Montreal. There's a you be soft you be school. Okay, you can go to it
It'll teach you about various
Aspects of game creation. Yeah, you want to be an artist you can take that program if you want to be a level designer
You do that, etc, etc, you know and at the end of the year you graduate providing
You don't fail and you become the new class of level designers
All looking for jobs in level design
There are a
Limited extremely limited number of positions at Ubisoft itself where they look for some level designers
And there's a bunch of other places which used to need level designers
But currently don't because they're getting a fresh batch every year
right, okay
Ubisoft then with their like one or two positions open will basically be like okay who wants it and
The people they're going through are
Literally cramming into the funnel where there's two there's two spots
And like 30 people are pressing in and then 12 months later another 30 are pressing in yeah, and so on and so forth ad nauseam and
The on the other side since the supply and demand is so imbalanced. They get to be like, okay
How low can we pay you how it sounds like a good reason to go into business for yourself?
you know how
Great can we make how how much can we sweeten the deal on our side since we get to pick from the litter?
Yeah, and we get to pump out more every 12 months
It's a little bit of a thing
You know and in some cases like but that's like may pardon me if I'm I'm like if I'm ignorant on this
But that sounds like the kind of situation where a long-standing
Like labor agreement would actually be highly beneficial
It certainly would especially if you're creating skilled workers in a particular thing right have a particular like
trade I guess but
There isn't necessarily
The they're like you're creating like there there's more people trained to do the thing then there's more workers trained than there are actual
Oh much more available. It's not shit like plumbing. I remember when I was a kid my dad said hey
If you don't know what to do with your fucking life
Become a plumber
There's too much work. There will always be too much work for plumbing. Yeah
So there's a bit of an oversaturation problem in certain programs where you know like there's just not enough jobs for
The program but they will always take you in and take your money and teach you
What needs to happen and you know it's a school so whatever but
So there's already this kind of undercut culture in a way and well the the undercut culture for the burnout stuff to my
Understanding has always been like you can burn these people out as hard as you want because there's always gonna be that fresh new batch coming in
Like you can crunch people as hard as you as you want because
The the young generation that doesn't know about that shit
You know and doesn't know that their time is like five to ten years tops in most cases
We'll come right in and go. Yeah. Oh, I want to make the next
Assassin's Creed colleges, whatever and God forbid that like the team or project or studio you're in shuts down and then a whole new
Bunch of specialists with way more experience than you on the market flood in yeah, and like
Honestly, the jump to the top like the the everybody's like focused on crunch as it's like dude working a hundred hour a week
Or else you're fired is like fucked
Right or or not or else you're fired or else, you know, we'll just see what happens, right?
I don't know what's worse either that or the fucking bust boom hiring shit
where it's like
We got we got a we got a crunch it hire a hundred people that we know we're gonna fire
But we're not gonna tell them, you know, yeah, like and we'll have the move
Right, I think Kurt Schilling and all that fucking crap with that. What was his fucking count the armor or shit?
50 52
42 whatever this is his number is fucking bullshit where he's like hey the company will pay the
Mortgage on the house that you had to buy to move out here. Oops company went bankrupt now. You have two mortgages fuckers
Is like 38 38 like that dude should be in jail
But he's not because this sportsman is rich so you go do back to sports talk fucking asshole
Yeah, it's interesting because
the
It would be it would be I
Would like to see what the results were if you asked people like would you be willing to take a hit on?
Video games either in terms of production in terms of how long it takes for them to come out in terms of how much they cost
Yeah in terms of all of these aspects in order to know that the people working on the games are like not being abused
Basically, they're like the diamond industry. Yeah, like blood games. Yeah, would you be okay with?
Waiting longer and spending more to know that your games are not blood games only on one condition
So let's take
Activision for example, and thanks Jim for giving me the ammunition for this one. Let's take Activision and Call of Duty, right?
Let's say they're crunching the Call of Duty gang, right? I would gladly
take hits to the Call of Duty map size or
Stability, you know, whatever assuming that the the devs wouldn't have to crunch or they got the resources they needed whatever
The day they start paying taxes
Jim recently did a great video about Activision and how Activision not only doesn't pay taxes to the United States
They get tax money back due to some tax-holding shit
So I so so a lot of that now you're getting into something way more complicated because you're getting into the what city?
Do we drop our mega studio in?
Well, you'll have to sweeten the deal by courting us and we'll do a little song and dad
And currently that city is Montreal actually. Yes, we will give you sweet-ass incentives
There's no money down to be here
Yeah, which makes it so that us living in Montreal as
Not employees as citizens of this city are if you're interested in this industry, you're in a good place
Yeah, right. It's nice. It means I sitting here doing nothing and paying
for
Moral combat to come out in some form indirectly
But yeah, effectively that's thought that that process of like we want you in our city because you increase our
Our commerce is a whole other prospect. It's a weird. It's a whole thing. You're backing this you're you're going back to like
Well, I should mention
Activision doesn't pay any taxes is because they have some bullshit holding company shit in a basement in the hall under whatever
Like it's it's tax avoidance. It's offshore money
So okay like all the DLC crap and all that's like, oh, we don't have a shut the fuck up
You don't even pay daily, you know, like now there's plenty of money to go around now
I suspect and in fact a
part of my my faith in my fellow human beings relies on the fact that I
Think the answer to my question for most people upon being asked would be absolutely or
Let's let's even be more charitable
probably
Most people would say yeah, probably
Why do I feel that there's a cutoff?
That enters the world of people who maybe don't pay attention to this news because if you're listening to this podcast
You probably follow game news enough or hear about events
Yeah
To care about what's happening and to know with the name of a studio sure
But if you happen to be someone that that doesn't matter to you
And you more or less like games enough to walk into a game stop buy one and walk out and that's the extent of it
Would that person necessarily think the same thing? The main is maybe if they knew about it
The main issue comes down to their own personal life circumstance
The the probably the one that that exemplifies this this weirdness is
Do you remember the
What was it called it was the voice actors guild doing a thing with performance matters
Do you remember that mm-hmm? Do you remember how a bunch of developers mm-hmm got super fucking pissed mm-hmm?
Like I don't get any royalties. So fuck you Troy Baker or whatever the fuck whoever it was
I think Troy was a big on that, but I don't quite remember specifically just using him because he's the biggest shit
And apparently we're like one degree of separation away from him now. Hey Troy
I know Mr. Beast
But
Then the typical response came back is like you probably should get royalties man
Like right, but it comes from your personal place
So man who goes to buy the Madden and go why Madden more ten dollar mm-hmm, right?
Because so and so whatever but if that man I was pretty pissed when I went to buy Street Fighter 4 and it was
$79 right, but and if that man worked bad gas station job
Bad money mm-hmm man. Don't care. Yeah less game. Yeah less game more money
Yeah, and then it's $10 could be other steam game. Yeah
$10 could be footlong or five beer $10 could be Hollow Knight on sale. Yeah
You know yeah
That's real yeah, so this is what I'm saying, you know and also like let's and if you really want to fucking get into it
What kind of phone you got there? Oh, you mean the one that's built by a Chinese slave economy. Yeah, yeah this one
How much you pay for that? Oh a couple hundred bucks compared to how much we think it actually cost to make
I don't know a couple thousand dollars and I'm gonna take the cost of human suffering out of it
And if what if you made it here? Yeah?
Man you guys enjoying the stream the stream running on technology built by slaves you have any burgers recently
Enjoy him. I did yeah, yeah
Market the market oh
This is awkward, huh? Yeah
Because solving this problem. Oh, no is actually addressing
Literally our modern economy as a whole this is how it works kind of like a big problem
It's kind of and it's almost as if we're shooting
Out of our expertise zone. Yeah a little bit. It's almost as if we're touching on things
We have no ability to understand much less proposed hypothetical solutions to almost yeah
But what do I know? I'm not Tim Cook. I don't know who Tim Cook is Tim Apple
Fuck him. I'm not Jeff Amazon
You mean I'm gonna send a robot horse to your house. I'm not Amazon. I'm not mark Facebook
I'm I can't fully comprehend
Exactly how I don't know. I don't trust any of those guys
For a multitude of reasons. Hey, well Jack Twitter. Yeah out there. Oh, yeah, uh-huh. He's doing things. Uh-huh. He's sitting down
Dude make me king of the world. I'll fix it dude like
Straight up you want to not have crunch time on your video games
That's right. You got to pay $10,000 for your iPhone
With the full tech because they came up with the full tech you hear those things are like every review
Thing they sent out broke with a day. Well, I a bunch of them did and then yeah
So which is why you don't buy the first version
But you know or you buy the the Huawei one that they fucking stole
And made on their own
Anyway, dude, so we have this whole conversation, but you know what? It's really exciting human augmentation
Let's just kick that can down the road. I
just
like
You want
You want your your your you want to get rid of blood diamonds? You want your your ethical video games?
You want your no crunch sticker on the cover of a game before you buy it?
Yes, I do this game was no employees were crunched in the making of this game. Oh, and there are no dolphins
Inside of this can of tuna
One hundred percent no dolphin crunch-free you want your crunch-free video games, sir
I hope you're willing to fucking upset la revolution. Okay, I hope you're willing to turn the whole thing on its head
Okay, because it goes from there to the union to the fucking company to the placement of the company's choice in the location to the tax breaks and
Then them trying to create a profit margin and the comparison to other businesses and the shareholders all that crap
Oh shareholders need to see those numbers
Economic theory about maximizing value for shareholders only came about in like the 70s. It's actually really new. Yeah
Yeah prior to that ever the the well-understood like idea was that the idea for a company was to maximize value
Not create money for shareholders
But some Nobel Peace Prize guy made some paper and everybody got it the high on balls on it
or
You're gonna see that game getting sold for 40 bucks on day one at fucking Walmart or
Future shop and guess what you're gonna go do gonna buy that fucking $40 game
Yeah, or you're gonna see the Amazon deal where you buy it by pre-ordering on Amazon to get 10 bucks off
And guess what you're gonna fucking do what you're gonna fucking pre-order that game and get it for 10 bucks off. Oh, man. Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, that's what you're gonna do. I would love to see a crash of like almost all the major game publishers
Into smaller companies
Because if they're crunching on indie at least they're crunching themselves
Does that make it better yeah
But the weeks that I put like that was the argument that that dude used when he was talking about
What the fuck what game was it where he was like no no no no no I was saying we voluntarily crunched
Yeah, not ever not everyone ever voluntarily crunches, but what do you remember the story I'm talking about yeah was
Something rockstar. Yeah. Yeah, and then everyone anonymously came for me like yeah, he's full of shit dude
Like if you want to get real
Those Cuphead guys are probably out of their minds. Yeah, probably
Same thing with the haul. I'm G not I'm GMT, but whatever like it they're probably nuts. Yeah, and
Like we're just going yeah
the triumph of the individual spirit
You're you're like little you're likely addiction to your work and potential illness is
Something we fucking want to throw money at you for cuz you won't quit. Yeah, I mean, what do you get?
What do you what do you what do you do about what do you you know? Yeah
Like some people are just gonna work it that hard man
There's nothing you can do about that admitted well what you can do is put weights on them so they work slower
There is objectively of course
It's a place where it's like the difference between forcing someone to do it because it's their job and someone will willingly doing it is
Where you can draw the line? I suppose that's a lot of that's that's a logical place
The fuzziness of that line is where like the current AAA industry likes to live
Which it's like hey, man, I'm not gonna say we're gonna fire you
I'm just saying promotions are coming up man. It's got a really impressed the impress the houses of the houses come in here
It's easy to you not working there and be like what was going on now people not working. Don't like the cowboys
I mean look if you're salaried
And you're you have a task and the task requires completion you got to come in and do the hours until the task
I know salary sounds like a thing for suckers. Oh, you'd rather buy the hour. Yeah. Yeah, let's just say for bet for you
Do we kind we were kind of like by the hour right or what do we do what is this this is not at all like that
I don't know what this is. This is not that okay. This is advertising. Okay, that's that's a whole different thing
This is a word from our sponsors
Yeah, and then the advertising money is gonna all dry up when people realize ads aren't real and then
Whatever what everybody has a really comfy mattress. Yeah, and then we're gonna have and then we're gonna have to start selling our blood
So and you know what you know what I'm saying by the way
I'm not saying we're gonna sell our blood to like the you know the blood bank or whatever
You know, we're gonna sell our blood to you guys at home. Who wants some of my blood?
You do crazy shit with it
You can clone a tiny little pack. Hmm
So think about that feeling the next time you purchase a game at a highly discounted rate gamer blood
Thank you at the end of the credits
You can even have a little sticker that that pops up saying this game was expressly made with crunch time
10,000 employees across multiple countries were crunched. Yeah in the making of this game
Yeah, feel that and you at the end of the at the end of the crunch time thing. It's like these are the babies
These are photos of parents meeting their children for the first time
These are the crunch babies. Yeah
Fathers were allowed to see at the end of development. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I was about to say at the mother mothers and fathers were allowed to see and then realize that didn't make much sense at all
Does it I
Don't know how mom could not see the the crunch baby
Well, quite frankly, it's just going to a tube under the desk if you go to the Activision OBGYN
Yeah, that's right, and then you put the fucking suction cup
Oh, they put them in the crunch locker and then the suction cup just goes
Yeah, suck them in the crunch locker and they seal it off for freshness and then you wheel them back over to the desk
Yeah, you have to stitch it all back up. Yeah, you got you put the organs back inside
That's right, and then you put the keyboard you get a gamer cube
That's right, and you put it around the mom
That's right
So that see the you know the stuff and the gamer cube and she's got her keyboard and mouse and the monitor in front of her and
They scoop that fucking baby out of there, and you don't have to worry about it until crunch time is over
Yeah, that's right, and she can keep working on her keyboard and mouse. That's right. That's correct
That solves every problem completely
You know if you hook your employees up to like all sorts of medical technology
You don't even need to let them take medical leave because it's the healthiest place to be is at work
Dump that baby in the fucking you know in
In the in the Metacritic pit, and if your game gets it if your game gets at least an 85%
Your baby is locked behind
Fucking to a glass chamber with the score of the game that you just released
Aggregating as the refuse coming
And the door has to get to 85 the score has to get to 85 before the door goes
You're it's at 84 in the office with your boss being come on, please come on count
Come on call Metacritic and tell him to count the 3d wego score
The 3d wego score is like a hundred
xboxboyce.nl
What about xboxboyce.nl
No, no the dual shocker's review is really good
Dual shocker's really good
Come on dual shocker's got the review in can we all right all right man
Baby open door opens up. Oh, no Maristacia review came out. They're coming back. They're coming back
They're got all they're going back in
The IGN 3 out of 10
That would be the kind of thing that it's like Jim Sterling returns to reviews and puts all nations children at risk
That's what I'm saying. I was like that the IGN 3 out of 10
Fucking comes out and it just cuts the children being ripped out of their parents hands
You know like they get it and then they're like wait hold on it drops back to 84
And then they just come in and just grab the kid. There's a note. I can't this is the worst
This is the dark future
Someone make a game out of this is really good. This is good stuff. This is free
Consume product don't ask questions that is the
The most applicable I thought and like Mike screaming endless trash was gonna be the most applicable thing red letter media ever put out but no
Fucking J going don't ask questions
Just consume product and get excited for next product as the screen grab with the subtitle is the most useful thing red letter media ever made
You can use it all the time
Speaking of next product. Oh, let's talk about the next product persona 5 Royale first details
trailer
New facial expressions new sprites human morgana
Gonna try and fuck everything
Maybe Futaba's mom
He's gonna fuck Futaba's mom cool punch sequence with
Queen and and fucking skull. Yeah, new all-out attack shit
Product an extra month way excited for product. Yeah
Well character might be there's a screenshot that they fucked up and didn't edit something out which looks like might be
How do I put this?
Extra sequences with party members. You thought you might not get to play with anymore after parts in the game or before or before
Yeah
That girl's a rhythmic gymnast, you know, she crushed the dick probably
Uh-oh got a photoshop that portrait though. Oh my god. It's the at this is the worst
This is the actual worst. It's not but it's not great. It's so it's the worst and it's dumbness
It's so dumb
Her design isn't that hot. I don't I like not that great. I'm way bigger fan of queen. I think hers is way cooler
I agree
Anyway, I like I hope that character. Oh
Yeah, I
Before we go
The redhead I think I hope that she is actually the female main character and that if you play as her then
She's not Femsey
God damn it. Then the she's a new confidant. Then Akira becomes her spot in the thing. She's she's she's not Femsey
All right, you want to talk about consultant a new confidant
Takuto Maruki the consultant a new confidant
Part-time school counselor hired at this council had hired at the concern of students following the case of a certain teacher
Yeah, dude. Yeah, that is like that fixes that honestly I
Fucking applaud it. Hey, what a good idea you kids are fucked up, huh?
Yeah, that was this pretty fucked up. What happened at this school like
Like that's a nice
Like that like we all love the balls of that story a lot. Yeah, and this is a nice little extra
Yeah piece of like
Realistic detail added to it
So I saw some people talking and like I'm fully in on this idea until I'm proven otherwise
And I want him to be like man
Don't you want to just like?
break the system
Do you ever feel constrained by the bounds of infinite authority and just want to go towards a completely
individualistic chaos based society
Want emancipation?
PS. I'm Satan like I
Don't know what it is, but that guy kind of looks like Satan to me. I
Like it. I want that dude to be Satan motherfucker wear sandals
Can't trust that shit. No I
Want a chaos route in this game man?
Real chaos route. So yeah, it looks like
The golden. Yeah
It really looks like the amount of extra shit is overwhelming. It's big
It's a whole lot of big the difference between p4 and the p4 golden is would you say?
30% of that game. No, no fucking way
20% maybe 15
I'd I'd take a gamble that this is gonna be around that. Yeah, absolutely
Well, I mean how much calendar time is it right? It's like it's it's like three months. I don't know
I don't think they've mentioned in golden. It's one month. It's one month. Okay. Okay. Yeah
All right, and there's some skipping around and
Yeah
New product
New product new product. Can we ask questions?
Omega Force developed
Persona scramble boo
You seen this? Yeah
Boo, it's not called persona warriors
So there's that but it basically is persona warriors. Yeah
Boom
Really not the right brand for this style of gameplay
Like I don't think this belongs at all doesn't make sense. I don't know
Remember when the persona gang fought that horde of monsters
Like Zelda sure dragon quest sure Hokuto no Ken sure berserk. Yes
Like the pics that they worked with have at least always been
Gundam actually was made perfect sense. Yeah, like it's always been up
It's always been an IP that like you have you'd expect a hero to be like cleaving through giant crowds in this case
It's not the worst stretch in the world like what I think of a personal fight
I'm thinking the team versus a boss. Yeah, we exactly opposite of this. Yeah, it just it just doesn't fit
It just doesn't fit. Yeah, also. It's not the fighter. So fuck it. Yeah, exactly
This is the wrong spin-off new character. Oh, who gives a shit
Sorry if that's a little blunt. Well, yeah, you know remember remember Hyrule warriors, you know, it's always a new character
But yes, you're correct
We're waiting for the the the s is not the letter we want a is the letter we want
R works to
R is not the letter we B works to we just battle Q is not the letter we want
We want a I
Want a PC port too, but
Yeah, don't get that's that's like getting don't push your luck
I don't know they're pointing the fucking yakuza games man. Like it's anything's possible. Yeah, but this shit never fucking. What are you what?
P4 a and you never got ported. What are you talking about? I want it all. Yeah. No, there's no reason to know how
Like let's start with the PlayStation and see where we go from there. How about that they did with yakuza
Yeah, how about we get P4 arena and ultimax now? That's too late. It's too late now
Well, then I'm saying like if you think that the fight I just want five on the PC
The the RPG the original RPG whatever it's do it
You hear that like I mean there's a thing that there's the rumor about like the original five coming to switch
While what while the royal comes out?
Okay, hold on persona for arena dead come to PC did it
Are you serious that I completely miss that that's crazy because I've been going through hoops every time
I wanted to play that game, but apparently ultimax did not
That's fucking crazy. Are you serious? Oh
My god, wow
Alt wait ultimax also
What
What really by persona for arena on the Microsoft Store
I'm looking at it right now
That's an Xbox 360 logo
available on Xbox one
I'm looking for a PC
thing here
The fuck is what the fuck is people talking about hold on a second hold on a second wikipedia save me
Wikipedia will save me
Persona for arena. Oh
It's not an official release
It's Wikipedia
Platforms
Arcade PlayStation 3 Xbox 360. What the fuck is the chat talking about? I don't know they lied to me
You talk about some emulated shit. They're probably talking about some emulated shit
Come out on the PC
Catherine yeah, did that happen? I don't know if any re-releases I don't know the original didn't but I have no idea
Catherine fucking chat man
Fucking chat. I'm like, why would we go through all this trouble bringing our PlayStation 3s to hotel rooms at cons to get
P4a games going Catherine did come out this year on the PC. Okay, so
But yeah, I'm like you're like all the trouble we all went through to get games of P4a going in hotel rooms
So fucking do it. We could have just ran it on a laptop. Just do it. Just put every game on PC. I don't care
All right, just do it
No, you can't blame chat. It was one guy. It was one guy. You all are one guy
You're all one. You're all one girl. You're all one person. You're all chat
That being said apparently I have a magical ability to only pick out the wrongest people you are Legion
You're all you speak for all of you
All right
All of you take your lumps at once
You speak
Representative of your people also you all take your victories all at once. So hey, there you go
If you're gonna exact if you're gonna if you're gonna bask in the glory of chat, then you got to take the L's as well
Yeah
Yeah
The important thing is
Not to ask any questions about this product
Get excited for new product and it's DLC. There's some people that are like
Understandably kind of miffed about Royale and it's like it has become like a staple now
It's like don't buy persona games on release. I saw that I saw I saw the Twitter reaction
And it's like it's it's it is kind of weird now
Where it's like especially for people who speak English because like but I don't like you're being told that the version like that game
Did not come out that long ago. No, it wasn't it wasn't that long ago
But clearly they're a team that makes a game and then keeps working on it
Yeah, and then wants to like perfect it in a way, which is also a very classical Japanese
Mentality at the re-release with Final Mix. This is this is the this is the version
We are very happy with now that we've gotten public feedback. Yeah, and I think the yeah, it's hard to say like yeah
I don't know but there are people that are like I bought this game last week and now the version
I have sucks that does suck right and if you're late to the party and the announcement happens that sucks
At the very least I think a decent compromise is an upgrade pack
Where you can that's not
Up where you can pass and don't do that. I know but I'm saying that I think that'd be the I think that'd be a healthy
Yeah, that doesn't even work for this kind of game because what is gonna upgrade halfway through your save and you're gonna miss out all
No, your save is fucked. Yeah, you save as far
But if you want to see this new content and you care about it, this is what you do. Yeah, I don't know
It's fucking that's the that's the only other way. I can see it going down
You know why I sure hope they relaxed the fucking streaming bullshit for when that game comes out
If you don't want to be if you don't want to kick early adopters in the balls
And you still want to be able to release a better game later
Yeah, just allow the people who early adopted to upgrade to that
Yeah
I think I should have the fighting game though. I think that makes sense. Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, um fighting games do it. Yeah
You know, it'd be a good fighting game to do it percent five arena
That'd be a good game
Kingdom Hearts
Remind three DLC has been announced. I don't know what this is
Do you know what this is? No
It's Kingdom Hearts news. I I thought I had to put it on because it would have been like
What are you doing not talking about Kingdom Hearts news?
Did you not play three? No, I don't give a shit. I thought you gave a shit. I thought I gave a shit, too
I'm surprised you don't give a shit. So here's what here's what happened. I played one really enjoyed it like that game
Red is synopsis of
Fucking the GBA game because fuck playing that card garbage on the GBA
Then I played to love that game
Then I played burp by sleep, but I kind of fell off and that was the last time I interacted with this series
Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out or he's coming out. I'm like, okay
I'll catch up and I got about 10 minutes into the chart of the process of catching up and I go fuck this I
Hate this
This is the worst
Okay, well if you don't care and I don't care then I'm more than content to talk about PlayStation 5 details. Hey
Well, we were gonna talk about this no matter what
Cerny saying all sorts of stupid shit in this interview that I don't understand. I think the most important one
Actually is the follow-up story
So we'll just do both at once. Yeah, do the big the big there. There's a whole lot of
Not much but one one major point with the ps5 that we're hearing is solid-state
Society
So yeah, that's good SSD drives good and they demonstrated its usage by showing you that you can they loaded up a build of Spider-Man
that was running on
PS4 and then a PS5 one and they more or less demonstrated that you can do the fast travel
Instantly, yeah on the map from one spot to the other
So and that's effectively what your hard drive does when you have an SSD running pretty much
SSD unless the game hasn't been programmed to take advantage of it
Yeah, and of course the thing though is I mean unless the technology has since like surpassed what I know of it
But whatever you have an SSD drive, that's your OS operate. That's your operating system drive
And it's always smaller than your crazy multi-terabyte. Yeah SSD
Right and read shit has gotten way better in recent times
But do they have them at in like the terabytes? Oh, yeah, like okay. Yeah, all right cool
You're not gonna get a terabyte drive with this. No fucking way
I think like you're gonna fucking you tell me there's like an eight terabyte SSD drive that you're gonna fucking know you're gonna get a
320 gig SSD drive with this and you're gonna enjoy it you bitch
Cuz that's what you're gonna get that
like even if this
Comes out two years from now that would still be insanely expensive. I think the worst part about this whole story anything above four
Yeah, is gonna be crazy. Yeah, I
Think the worst part about this story is certainly like yeah, and this thing's gonna support
8k graphics and
Then the the note is like there are no 8k TVs that are for general populace, right 8k is fucking stupid
Also, how big are your games gonna be?
Really big that's not good. Yeah big like if we keep scaling up, but the end result is you still only get four games
Like that sucks, man, but anyway the follow-up was that the
ps5 itself
Will not launch over the next 12 months, so
They're really on shocking. This is not happening in between now and 2020. Yeah, I expected this
So I mean that makes sense I think
That's fine for them to talk about yeah, I think we're probably gonna see I
Don't know what we're gonna see Microsoft do actually
You think they're gonna swerve. I don't know they might swerve. I feel like they could release the Xbox
What are we at now? What's the what's the big one X bone X?
I mean at this point you gotta just find a new don't release the X boners, and that'll be a
Juiced up X bone X X box one
Oh
Revision special
Yeah, whatever and that will be an applicable power jump, but it'll still be the same thing
So it'll still be like backwards compatible Xbox one revolution s. Yeah, there you go. Yeah
This that I really this I desperately hope this thing is backwards compatible man like what five yeah, it is they said it
They said it. Yes. Oh, did you okay in case you didn't actually take a look at the article?
I skimmed it, but I didn't get the part of the backwards compatible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, 100% 100%
What we got is with four only we got hold on. Let me scroll to get it scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll
scrollie scrollie scrollie
Yeah, they confirmed backwards compatibility they confirmed solid-state with backwards compatible with ps4. Yes, and
Ray tracing as well
Which has been a PC thing for a while, but
Where was the actual I
Would really like a let's PlayStation as we as you joked earlier. Yes, that's it and it's not in the headline, but
Then but they did imply that VR is gonna be a much bigger part of it this time as well. I bet so
Yeah, your ps4 library will continue to exist on your ps5. Does this mean we can get blood-borne at 60?
Come on. I
Think a re-release
No, just make it so the games run better. We got Dark Souls on switch. They might they might just do it
They might just re-release it. Don't know just make it so games run better
Microsoft did it
Just do it
It depends on how the game was made. I don't care
Well crunch him until it happened
Well, well then you might as well re-release that
You're putting dev time into a specific title. No, no dev time
Microsoft did it
Pat is going full big baby now, but reason and rational thought process
Hey, can I call you thin blood from now on?
Where did you hear that?
I'm asking because it might be applicable. All right, sure
Vampire the masquerade. Hey, I know a little bit about this nerd shit now. What do you think of how this game looks?
I'll let you know in a second. Oh really? Okay. Well, they have a
My sleep has been so fucked like okay
Well, they're showing off some trailers and teasers. They're showing a gameplay yet
Not really they're just showing off this kind of art style in and it's a cutscene thing
So we don't actually know
So the the main character in Bloodlines 2 is going to be a thin blood
Which is are you familiar with that term? Wolves? I mean in my own head. Yeah, okay, so thin bloods are
I believe it's 14th
So vampires are defined by generations in this fiction
So how the first generation is Kane of Kane and able the purest of pure three generations three and four ish are
Anti-diluvians prior to Noah which are basically God-like super beings and apparently don't exist, but they exist shut up
and your your badass vampires are eighth generation ish and then once you get down to
generation 14
Right
You get what's a thin blood or a kative and these are vampires
That get the raw steel ever because it's a power gap every every child of a vampire is shittier than the last one
You get no power-ups, but the Sun hurts you you get zero powers
Every vampiric weakness
Yes, okay, okay, right? Yeah. Yep
Like it is the shittiest deal ever. Yeah
You get weakness to sunlight
We like all the bird all the fire shit like all that no healing ability
No powers like blood lusts like
Considering how insane the 10th generation sons of sparta. Oh, they do live forever though. Okay. That's all right. Ah, that's good
But they get all the shit 10th generation sons of sparta will be gods
Yeah, eventually if they can figure out how to do their shit before they get old and die
Like it it no question
That's a raw deal. Yeah, it sucks
So the the they're a focus in vampire the masquerade bloodlines where they're like just everyone shits all over
They're also the the dirt hobos of vampire society like everybody hates them man like shit
All he wanted to do is grill some veggies. I know what's the big deal?
No, like grilled veggies. They're delicious. I do like a grilled veggie, right?
The little burn on your on your green makes it taste better
And you fucking throw that on your side
Put some put some spice on it
Delicious
What the fuck are you talking about Kane Kane Kane
Can't able Kane and able just wanted to grill some veggies. Is that what the fight was over solid was man
Really? Yeah, that's why Kane hit able with a rock. Able was Babel wanted to barbecue his lamb
He wanted some shank. Okay. God likes lamb shanks. All right. Yeah, real big fan of
Yeah, and
Kane was like yo, bro. I work in the garden. Yeah, I toil I do my I do my fucking greens your
Shepherd you've got meat. Yeah, that's right. So when it comes time to sacrifice your shit
It's gonna be meat because that's what you do. Yeah, but Kane's like my thing is vegetables, sir
So I'm a grill some fucking delicious veggies. He brings the meat. I bring the veggies
He got yourself a stew going right God's like fuck you. I wanted meat. Fuck your veggies
You don't get that blessing. All right. Able gets the blessing because he brought the meat
Mm-hmm
Then Kane hits Able over the head of the rock
Yeah, cuz fuck that guy and then meets Lilith and that shit happens. Yeah
God says I'm gonna curse you to have to eat your children. Yeah, well, you know and
That's vampires. Why are you kicking him out for you for his nice brave grilled veggies, man? I love grilled veggies
It's fucking great
The meats nice is the blood sucking now like an ironic anti-vegan statement by God
I mean quite friends like what are you gonna? What are you gonna fucking?
You're gonna say thank you to the man that brought the meat, obviously
Yeah, the guy that brought the sides can't even fucking get a little you can't get a little some something
You're saying vampirism was caused by God being a picket eater
I mean quite like just hating like, you know, and like no one likes a really an asshole vegan like no one really
That's all if you're really enforcing it if you're trying to push it down people's throats and yeah, no one likes that
No, but yeah, but he knew that his brother had the meat covered. Yeah, they got a fucking
You make a responsible fucking guest show up with the sides that nobody brought to make a full plate
Grilled veggies the solid was about
And now we got fucking vampires. Yeah
That's it so the basic deal is that the main the only way for thin bloods to get any any beef here mm-hmm from their shit state is
To do something called Dioblory, which is basically to eat other tougher vampire souls
Which is a no-no in vampire society people don't like it
But that's gonna be your deal
So how do they like continue to exist?
which
Wait, hold on hold on hold on. Sorry. How does who continue to exist the thin bloods? Yeah, they live forever. That's right naturally. Yeah
They gotta eat blood though, but they have to eat blood. Yeah, they got they got the blood thing
It doesn't matter what the source of the blood is. No, it's got to be humans. Okay
Rats give like an animals livestock that kind of thing. Yeah, like they're one one hundredth of a human
But they get no powers. No and also
Human blood ranges in quality. So you got your dirty hobo blood. Yeah
You got your rich at a yuppie blood. Yeah, then you got your typo. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah
typo delicious shit, but what if okay, can you be can you be murdered?
Through traditional human means. Oh
Yeah, that's one of the things in vampire is that vampires have are
extraordinarily amazing healing abilities. Yeah
But a shotgun will take your head off just like anybody else's okay. So if you're so if you're a thin blood, but you're tough, right?
but if you're like
pulverized into fucking mush, yeah, and like
See, but if you're a vampire and you get hit by a car thrown out a window, you're fine. Yeah, you'll you'll walk it off
You're if you're a thin blood you won't yeah
Okay
Okay, and then there's ghouls, which is people that eat human eat vampire blood, but aren't vampires
Oh, yeah ghouls. They're they're here. Goals and freaks
Probably the most interesting thing I ever heard about the vampire the masquerade like fiction that is not referenced in the games is that
Vampires take aggravated damage from fire right fires good against vampires. It's a pretty common thing
But that in the pen and paper apparently
You take so much damage from fire that vampires gain and innate crippling phobia of open flame
Oh nice to the point where if somebody is smoking a cigarette in their vicinity
They have to roll up check to not have a panic attack. Wow
Like Gregor click yeah, cuz like somebody putting out a cigarette on them could like
Fucking ice them or like really fuck up their shit
What happens to people they get bit by thin bloods?
They bleed
Okay
Get it becoming a van so the vampire thing is
Like it's always been complicated. It's not zombie rules. It's never been zombie rules
Vampires don't bite people and then they become vampires the usual way they become a vampire is you got to have
Nearly or mostly you your whole blood sucked out of your body
Yes, and I'm not Gregor and then you're and then you're then the then the vampires got a jam their own blood in there
And so you kind of die, but then you come to back to life as a vampire
Because it sounds like blood mixing. Yeah, I was gonna say like getting bit sounds like a much worse deal than just being born part
But then this shit sounds pretty awful, too. Yeah, and then depending on your fiction. You got people that get born vampires. Yeah
What about day walkers? Are there day walkers?
No
But apparently you can spec your stats into like physical fortitude and then you can tank a certain amount of sunlight
Hmm, but like
You're still gonna there's like smoke. You're gonna. I think the upper limit is like a cup like a minute
You know you need a Vulcan Raven sized container of sunscreen. Oh, you know this but the Sun is just a really big flame
Yeah, it's really big. Yeah
So big it's very angry. Yeah
It's also a terrible stand
It's just terrible almost beat him though
It's so bad that it causes your main characters to laugh
Hysterically to the point of insanity. Yeah, and even the even the most out-of-character way
All right big nerd in the chat pointed out that apparently if you're an old enough vampire you can take like
Fucking UV laser beams to the face and just tank it right because you're old and vampire power scales with old hmm
That's cool. Vampires are cool
Well, unless they're fucking lame depends on which kind right because you can you can do you you can be a brand stoker type
Or you can be a fucking twilight type. Well, that's the whole point of
Vampire the masquerade is it predates twilight? Obviously, but the whole idea is they have all those clans and every clan is some
Variation of vampire. Mm-hmm. So you brand stoker type. So you're like ventrue. Yeah, unfortunately, that's also underworld
you're
Mm-hmm
Kate Beckinsale was pretty hot back and sale war tights. Yeah
Vampire raw
All right, let's get the fuck away from this conversation
So it turns out I like that first movie on the fuck you. I liked it. Fuck you
vampire fuck off movie
Wow, well down blue guy at the end and you're like Jesus Christ, holy shit
Taste is trash. Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Do you think I didn't know was trash?
You think I'm sitting there going. Oh, yeah, they fucking break the rules of
War 101, which is don't break the fucking line of action
You have the fucking you literally have two armies on each side. Don't switch the side
So switch it fuck it you fucking have everybody literally just stop the big dumb black monster thing walks out
Oh, man, everyone gets really confused and just walks away. What's the trailer for that play? Holy shit the hybrid
The fucking hybrid the hybrid the hybrid it shows up and gets its ass be oh man
Do you remember I watched the fucking behind the scenes for that where they tried like a bunch of different?
Prototype hybrids and then they ran out of time shooting so they're like fuck it just cover in blue just coat him
Just coat it wasn't blue was black. It was blue was a blue fucking blue
I remember it being so dark fucking bad, dude
They originally wanted to do this rig where they had a bunch of hair on him and they
Fired electrodes and would stand up so he'd look like a creepy vampire werewolf and they could never get the shit to work
Shit, so they just said fuck throw fucking blue paint on him. Fuck it
Fear the hybrid fear the hybrid he gets he goes through a fucking table. Yeah, he gets he looks like it's chokesland
But yeah, like a fucking 90 year old man
They just it's straight up a wrestling match like this big new right like the shockmaster comes out supposed to get over
Then he gets put through a fucking table out or in a chair
They can't back self cuts the guy's head is the matrix moment his head slices off. You're like, oh man
Huge fucking bitch. Oh, I can't wait for ten sequels
And then we just stand around and then awkwardly walk away as the camera zooms out sadly
Stating to black fucking super smurf Kate Beckinsale. Yeah, fuck out of here
Hey, there's a new mode in Overwatch. Yeah, is it for pornography customized game modes? All right, so pornography
On the ptr
They're basically putting in pornography test for all that thing that I remember halo having where you can create a create
Customer game mode. That's right. It's not a map editor
But it lets you modify
You can add rules and scripts. I bet you can
Yeah, that shit's everywhere man. Yeah, it's crazy
Like people that are just trying to watch normal porn that have no interest in video games whatsoever
Have seen various
SFM gifts, it's
And it's kind of wild the funniest thing that they have no idea what they're looking at but it's everywhere
The funniest thing is like people making fun of the porn ads that are what is it?
It's like it's fucking don't play this by yourself in five minutes or whatever
And it's like every single one is to overwatch characters and it's like
Jesus Christ
Like the weirdest like what is your point of your eye? Don't click here or you'll just like
Like what do you aim away from your face before you click on this shit?
You have five seconds. You won't survive it. Don't click
Make sure your mom's out of the room loser
What is your plan like what like what are you trying to get you're done here?
Make sure you're by yourself when you play this porn game and you jerk off. Yeah
Really?
You think?
Your dog won't look at you the same after you click here
Anyway
Yeah, so it's a custom mode. Yeah, you can customize the rules in the script. I feel like everyone in the world
Fell off of overwatch
They did but every time a new character gets announced. There's there's a little bit of like oh shit
What's this about? Are you like a hot Frenchman? I?
feel like I
Feel like the most I feel like the fact the most exciting thing people are talking about with Blizzard is a
Re-release of the a good version of their MMO from 2004 is like the most depressing thing in the universe
Wow classic is all I hear people talking about I haven't heard regards to Blizzard haven't heard is that what's up?
Yeah, man, people are excited for while classic because it's a version of wow that they enjoy playing
But do people actually want to go back? Yes
Yes, really I have played on a private
It's fun
Yes, wow
That's the name of the game wow wow wow wow. It's the database
I
Know why even bother heard this I mean what is it? What are you doing? You don't give a shit, but I think it's pretty cool
I what I give a shit about I'll try Starlink has the Star Fox character
shit coming out
Very soon if that sounds really cool you give a shit tomorrow in fact wow is
When you're going to get
Slippy
Falco and
Peppy the other one
Talking to humans in a weird way. Yeah, don't worry about it
That's really interesting for the Star Fox racing content and and what not with the Starlink shit
And you get to remember it's the game where you put the toys on the controller. Yeah, that done bullshit. Yeah, yeah
So that's all coming out. That's so cool
so
Star Fox's
Continue to they both have star in the title continues to exist through Starlink. What a awesome
use of Star Fox
As opposed to Star Fox, yeah, that wasn't a good use of Star Fox not that other that not that one or
The other one before it or the other one before it
It's
Really weird cuz it's not that hard or or
Christ the past four Star Fox games man everything post 64. Yeah, is that what you're saying?
Zero battle was battle assault whatever assault the salt was alright. Yeah, but it's not surface for no, but it was alright
The fucking the the the fucking DS one where you've dragged the shit with the touch command
That was command do whatever and then the adventures
Star Fox adventures. Yeah, I
Think
It's like the simplest fucking thing in the world is a victim of
Nintendo thinking that it needs to be something more than what it is
Yeah, like I really think they're just they would not be content to just release a straight up behind the ship shooter
With levels and stages a ton of levels. Yeah done. I think I think they're not happy with that
They want it to be like it's one of the greatest star versus for the best games ever made
They want to end they want it to innovate something and it doesn't need to but they just they want it to be more
so they keep trying to do other things with it and
Yeah, we kind of just want hey Star Fox 2 came out
Yeah, it did this weird that's weird that
That's weird man
Let's take some mail. Hey if you want to send an email in
It'll probably be on a higher energy level than it is right now and we'll read it maybe and then you send that to
Castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com
We got one coming in fucking dying out here, man, I'm fucking
From to and I'm stupid right now says hey padlock and will again good enough
You're talking about conspiracy theories reminded me that
You okay
Just look down the chat and just saw somebody just go Pat you're fucked. Oh my god
Uh
You're talking about conspiracy theories remind me of the time that I was having dinner with my grandparents and
Distant aunt informed me of an insane theory of hers
She believes that clouds are created by airplanes flying by shut up because when she was living in Hawaii
There were no clouds ever and there were no planes flying overhead
But when she moved back to the in the US she was appalled by all the clouds and all the planes everywhere
She was appalled by the clouds
How are you supposed to talk to them if they still like they're still a human being after hearing them say something like this
This is a grandparent. This is an aunt aunt. Yeah
You can't just put them in a home I
Mean at no point does she specify what she thinks the clouds are doing if they're doing anything
So I guess it's fine. I feel like whenever I encounter that situation. I just stare at the person until the conversation moves away
I would yeah, you pull up the Simpsons photo and you literally show them old man yells
Wait, does this person think the clouds did not exist before the invention of airplanes
Yes, because they grew up on an island where there were no clouds. I
Know I know that's not true my skybox
There literally cannot be a location on the planet that has zero clouds ever my skybox was always clean blue skies
So when I move somewhere else
It's gotta be
That reminds me of that percentage of people in certain like US states that don't believe that snow is real
Yeah, right. I've never seen it ain't real to me. Oh my god, man
Yeah, that's fine. That's a large-scale fucking
Conspiracy the age of information they call it
Let's see here
We got what coming in from
Dilly Dally says hello unregulated doses of chemicals in my brain as a person who has both mental and physical disabilities
I find games to be fun and unique showcase of attempts at inclusion in minority groups. I present you a list of things
I've noticed over the years that I'd like to ask your thoughts on them
I'm very interested in rebindable inputs and configs for those who have physical impediments
Might not have been the intended design decades ago
But is how all games should be can lead to fun exploits in modern games though
Integration of sound design into the game subtitles
Alaleff for dead where it's tied to core mechanics of the gameplay and might possibly possibly be the most enjoyable version of this
Visual indicators of things that would be giving haptic feedback like spotting an enemy or a hidden secret instead of just a sound and vibration
Looking at you massive amounts of older jarred RPGs with hidden prompts for no reason other than to force you to enjoy the environment
While you search for hidden materia or dropped plot key
Ability to turn hints on for single-player games in case it's a bit too mentally challenging for you
Or you're completely missing the scope of the scenario
Actually, I will roll easy mode into this as it sometimes is the only way for my friends to enjoy a game
as it sets massive OCD off for them and
The inclusion of color blindness features shifts and of the palette colors
To not need those features even turned on for example in multiplayer games where enemies are always
Always have a unique and distinct design regardless of color
Mono audio plus radar for those who with hearing loss and an impediment for one or both ears
That's all I can think of at the moment the vast majority of accessibility
Concern and design decisions that you could make for your game will also benefit those without any disabilities
Subtitle design the including closed captioning. I
Use that shit. I don't have a hearing issue. There you go, right?
The number one like like the golden rule on that is adjustable keybinds
Like the ability to change your controls
while
pseudo vital for people with certain physical disabilities is
Just nice to have for everybody else. Mm-hmm. Like that's a feature that just is good
Overall, yeah, it kind of sucks that respawn games for controller bindings
They don't let you do what you want. They force you to use presets
Yeah, they let you bind keys on your keyboard and on your mouse
But your controller is stuck in a couple of preset configurations, and I hate it
They don't want dumb controller players to fuck up their controls and not be able to fix them
I think that is the actual design idea of a litter like fuck off
Just do the same thing your keyboard does. No, I don't wanna
Yeah
Colorblind this shit
While that obviously doesn't help people or you know, that's not a feature that like
transfers over to the non colorblind people
There are a shit ton of colorblind people. Oh, yeah, it is super common. Yeah a lot of people
I
Mean I grew up
I've I've known for I think
Apparently it's weirdly common in video game circles
I've known for people
Men of who's the latest
With that. Oh man, that's color. Men scarblind. What what type?
I don't know you have to ask him because there's like 10 now
You'd have to ask him, but there's settings for them. Yeah, and you can cycle through them in the apex. Mm-hmm
So that's pretty handy. I
Find the I find colorblind settings completely fascinating when I fuck with them because I'm like, oh, that's oh, huh?
Yeah, there's a certain perspective that you gain. Yeah, it's like when you see like dog vision
Yeah, and you go man. You look and everything looks like dogs. Wow
Think about it fucking dogs can't tell shit dogs can't tell shit if it wasn't for that nose
They'd be garbage. Yeah. Well, their nose is more accurate than our eyes. So it's weird
If it wasn't for that nose, they'd be garbage well not for our thumbs we'd be garbage, too
I know we'd be all right with the four
What be all right with the na man without the pre-enceled thumbs haven't even watching tears there's human videos
No, the ability to throw shit is our number one super. Oh, it's awesome
But I mean we like with just the clawing though. We'd be pretty fucking we would be all right
She can't throw something you throw a fucking you can't throw a stick without your thumb
But I mean in terms of like what we can and can't do in general like like we wouldn't be like
Completely worthless. Yeah, we would be super garbage, man. I
Gotta get tears you on this with you with thumbless humans. Hold on a second. Are you strictly talking about like?
Pre-early human evolution. I'm talking all we're talking about right now. Okay. All right fine. Never mind
I'm talking. I was talking about right now. Oh like if we lost our if we all lost our thumbs
Well, I mean, yeah, dude. We'd be okay. We already built the fucking first tools of shit
Yeah, and you can't fucking kill a woolly mammoth with a fucking stick you got no thumbs man
But at the same time, I think we might have developed like
Depends. I don't know. It's hard to say we you don't think we'd be smart enough to come up with a thumbless way to like no
Intelligence follows tool use in some cases
Dumb as fuck dolphins are smarter shit us man
You pick back in the day anyway
Can you hold something in your not thumb and oh that sucks and smash you get no strength on that
like can I pick up this mouse for example without my thumb and like
Bash someone not effectively and in fact you can look at chimpanzees and shit like that because they their thumbs are garbage
But they're like a hundred times stronger than us
But they're bad at throwing shit and hitting you with sticks or taking both of my hands and picking something up
So I have two hands on it and then just bashing someone in the head with it
Well, I'll tell you what you can pick up a rock and hit me with it without using your thumb and I'm not too worried about it
And then I'll hit you with a rock using my thumb. I think thumbs are super important
I don't think getting rid of them is the difference between us not existing. I think that's totally insane
I think you're underestimating the power of your thumb. I think so
I think I'm just making shit up because I don't actually know the answer and it sounds it sounds plausible to you
Sounds plausible to me and we know that you'll make the right decision about thumbs in the in the future. Hmm
Well that cult shit went way out of control. Yeah, I don't know and I'm like one discussion about it. Yeah, it got real
Way far. Yeah, what way far well these cult sucks. Don't come on
Posted by the fucking the cult of Pat people. Yeah, the sticker on it. Come on
We know you'll make the right decision fuck off burn all down anyway
We're doing emails, right? We were
Now you need the Virgin Woolly the Chad Pat
I have literally you see that I have literally seen you walk in the fucking virgin position
Yeah, yeah, I have literally seen you do the shoulders up slump pose and I have literally done
Yeah, I know this like
It's life. What can I say?
Like I have unironically done this pose can I get a chat in the middle of a dance move
Can I get a Chad cube thing in the middle of a dance floor while shit while music was bopping?
I have unironically made that pose. Yeah, I have the confidence to never do that
Like I've literally I don't want to destroy everyone with me doing the Chad pose. Oh, that's fucking great
What was your favorite leak of all time
Tom wants to know that halo 3-1 in the fucking weird barn. Do you remember that shit? Oh with the TV screen?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great. That was solid
I'm gonna go ahead and say now currently fucking devil may cry 5
With the dude
Straight up saying to the camera. Oh shit, you can see me in the reflection
And then he keeps playing and then he gets fired
That's that's my number one. Oh
man
Justin wants to know you bully. What's that yellow Batman looking album behind you?
It's been bugging me for months and my searches. I haven't gotten good results
It's a literal Batman the animated series soundtrack
Smooth
Cool
Batman the animated series vinyl it's pretty dope
I want to show it to you because it looks really cool for the wreck for the audio only people
It's imaginable is playing out of vinyl. It is the shape of a bat
It's cool
There you go. Look at Batman the animated series vinyl. What's up? I don't stand final records
You know what I found out a friend of mine came over this week that collects them as well and explained that
Apparently 30% of people currently buying vinyl don't have record players. Yeah, that shit's wild
I didn't know that so I thought I understood vinyl records right up until you held up that Batman shaped one
I'm like, but how does it go over the track if there's no track to go over? Have you not seen the drift stage vinyl now, man?
The drift stage one
Which is right here records or circles man?
So records or circles
Drift stage has an official vinyl. Oh my this is good
This is a good way to do this and the record itself is a good way to do this is
Literally the car wait, that's the drift say the car is the vinyl record
That's pretty good, and it spins on the fucking thing like this is that's silly. Yeah, that's silly
So you can make them any fucking shape you want as long as the grooves exist
I don't get it if you go look this up audio listeners. Just look up the drift stage vinyl record
I don't understand and you'll see what I'm talking about
As long as it can fit and spin and there's little grooves on the thing then you can do whatever you want with it
They can't stop you I get you know what?
You can't stop you now that you destroyed your mouse all the juicy bits fell out
Mice are awesome because you can pull a battery out and they still work
Yeah, that I feel that's new and by new I mean like sub the past ten years because I remember
You nudging those batteries and the fucking thing would turn off
And let's take one last one one last one
Coming in from the spice must flow they must dude a super castle mind goblins
After you talk about swords in video games versus real life
I wanted to insert my own two cents to that subject. Let's hit it
I am currently a long-sword instructor of
bloke in plow Western martial arts fucking sick
for real I
Teach German longsword in the tradition of Kunst des Fetchens as
Interpreted from a poem called the Zettel purposely written by a sword master named Johannes likes
This is taught in the context we assume of doing blush fletching unarmored fencing
That means typically guys would be wearing gambesons
Leather gloves and no helmet. Uh-huh. Keep in mind gambesons are still armor. Just not plate, right?
the type of fighting that would be
How much to vexed in are those styles of fighting that are very different from each other
When fighting with a longsword as you alluded to you can't cut plate. Is it happening?
Seeing that in games and movies makes me roll my eyes ridiculous normal tactics against plate would be to use a pole arm
Hallbird poleaxe Lucerne, etc. You forgot to say foe shard you motherfucker
And destroy a man inside the plate
If you got a hammer I'll do it if you don't have that you use a spear to go for the unarmored gaps between the plate and stab
Yeah, the armpits the knees shit like that. They're dick. This is why
There is that half-sorting style for longswords where you turn the sword into a small smear spear
And use your hand to guide the blade with more control to thrust into the dangerous spot
Most times though the fighting goes to wrestling and you try to get the other guy with a dagger
Yeah, I remember watching videos of dudes doing shit like this
And it turns into wrestling and then they start beating on them in the head
And then they pull out a little knife and go through the islet and that's fucking bad way to go
No, but if we're talking about swords and how sharp they were they were super sharp
You absolutely do not want to dull blade because most people do not own plate in any form
They're gonna be wearing gambasins. So if you do not have a very sharp sword you aren't getting through that gambasin
Gambasins are also very good at dissipating blunt damage not to mention swords are not designed for blunt trauma
Clubs and hammers are swords are meant for cutting obvious is obvious
So the idea that someone thinks a medieval sword was intentionally dull is ludicrous
So there you go, yeah
The irony right so the only the richest
Richie bitches would have plate right which would make them like nigh invincible to cutting
Otherwise you're fighting leather. Otherwise you're fighting leather at leather, which is not
Invincible to cutting but it's actually because it's you know, cow flesh or whatever dissipates blood damage more equally
Isn't that crazy?
So depending on the richness of the person you're fighting you want to go blunter and blunter as the money go up
Considering how cool half-sorting looks and how much it mattered. I'm surprised that
My first exposure to it was for honor. Yep
You'd think pop culture would have adapted that sometimes sooner, but well, I mean look at the way like probably the if I remember
Correctly, I'm probably wrong, but like the number one pop culture thing that has always been complete bullshit from step one is the way swords clash
Which is they clash edge on?
Right mm-hmm, which is like if two big dudes
Through their swords at each other of historical accuracy. There's a good chance that both of the swords are gonna just fly into pieces
You would you would parry when you parry you parry with the flat. I
Might have don't parry with that edge. What the fuck would you parry with the edge?
I might have read an unverified post or
Comment somewhere where someone was describing with questionable accuracy that
That Katana's
We're good for one battle at a time before needing to be
Re sharp fancy sword and refolded in some cases Katana's are made out of fucking slag metal for fuck's sake
So there's yeah
The only way to get them that good was because of how shit the metal was and yet the multi folding was because of how impure and
The idea was that like because of how thin and so on that you'd pretty much fight to fight have to go back and
Have to go back in and fuck you know what the best weapon of all time across all history is a stick
Best the spear is the most useful weapon ever
Every variation of the spear is the better stick
I'll take a stick with a thing on it. That's just a stick. It's a good stick
But it's just a better stick
Way bigger fan of the of the stick with the thing on it. You know what a gun is it's a stick that move
It's a fucked up looking stick, but it's just a stick. Well, it's a stick that throws. Yeah, it throws that stick part
mm-hmm
We're good at that
Yeah
Piercing damage is the best damage
Against what
Another person
An animal much everything really
Hmm. No, I can't think of a single thing that piercing damages and the best damage
Is there anything so armored that you have to crack it or go blunt
No, because if you can find the piercy point that would still be there and if it fails
Yeah, all I'll say is you've got to pierce it harder like if you have to fight
Yeah, it's a skeleton would be pretty worthless to pierce. Yeah, but skeletons aren't real. I've never seen one. You don't have it
It's a myth
You'd have to beat a skeleton without piercing listen if clouds can get fucking created by airplanes and skeletons aren't real
See, I was gonna say crocodile
Yeah, but then I thought if the crocodile opened its mouth and you pierced it that'd be the best way to do it
I remember correctly the best way to kill a crocodile stab it through the top of the head
But the leather it's actually not the leather that's problems their skull is super thick apparently
They're so fucking hard. How would you pierce anything with that? You have big man arms and you're from Australia
No, I I I feel like that would be really hard to do
Yeah, I imagine stabbing it in the open mouth would be a better job. Yeah, you want to put your fucking arm. No, yeah
No, no, you but you but if your stick is long enough. No, you get your dude
They will snap that stick in a second they will
but
Maybe you can stab it first. I don't know. It's hard to say. I don't have any I have no idea how to kill it
I have a look I have watched people talk about how they killed a crocodile
Blinded it and then figure it out. Well, they don't have a good eyesight anyway, so you don't actually have to worry about that at all
Stab it in the eye. Yeah, but you have to get close enough to stab it in the eye
I don't know and what if they start fucking doing the role on you
I have a really good plan to kill crocodiles. Okay?
Alligator crocodiles are works. Well, you changed it. You said crocodile, but it's a bit of a crocodile's a little small tiny
Okay, so look you see that you see the alligator. Yeah fucking turn around and run away. Yeah
Alligator you can't see it anymore. It'll die eventually. Uh-huh
You ever see you ever seen an alligator moving across land chasing something down? No, I've not
Good fucking luck dude
Look to the alligator turn 360 degrees walk away. That's the alligator 360 good fucking like that Microsoft
Oh, are the crocs the same size might be the shittiest joke I've ever made I
Put that on you. I didn't know the crocs were the same size
I remember my stupid kids book showed me a picture of an alligator and it showed a picture of a crocodile and it
Specifically put them side by side and it made it look as if it was smaller
In fact, I think I have that kids book right down there. I really I think it's literally on my shelf
I could probably pull the page up and show you
There's a lot of people that are like 360 would keep you facing the alligator. I'm like, oh, you don't remember this ancient meme from 12 years ago
Sorry children. Hmm
Take that my mistake
Well, what do you think I spoke I saw somebody tell me that memes are being taught in their marketing classes in university. Oh
Yeah, I believe that if you can effectively get one out there then
This means we're like two steps away from know your meme becoming an accredited university
Well, I remember like I fucking turned on I opened up Twitter one day and I saw the top moment and it wasn't marked as promotion
but the top moment was like
rank
this box of
Frito's laze chip products
Yeah from top to bottom. Yeah, and I was like what the fuck are you doing acting like this is not an ad
as various people all argued with each other and it seems like there was enough footage of like
Paid people doing it that it worked and got people that were like randomly
Joining in and it was one of these weird things where I'm like, you're supposed to mark
This is promotion and then they didn't and it was like, okay, so this is where we're at now
Right and and there's been a couple of the things like that where you're like
This is obviously an ad but there's no actual connection to the company that you can prove it
but
Memes
Thousand percent you bet your ass they're pushing a bunch of those out there trying to see what let's sticks and what doesn't
How many times is a company probably posted on 4chan trying to see if they could get something going and then it doesn't take off
That's where the RB sweater like finds their trends. I buy fuck. I fucking believe it
This is a fucking weird world we live in
Where are the eyeballs?
Or are they looking are they on the memes they're on the memes let's put some some ads over where those memes are okay?
Hey me hey Snoop Dogg, you know seem to know about memes
What do we mean to get the eyeballs?
Read now anime. All right. Got it now or two on the plane. Oh my god. What oh play mortal combat
Shit fucking Naruto memes for
Goddamn it. All right. This sucks. This future sucks and
with that
That's a podcast well. We got to do this. So let's officially start the endgame spoiler cast
If you don't want to hear spoilers for Avengers Endgame, you should tune out now
That was the most fun I've had watching an Avengers movie
Since the original movie. Yeah, that's right. I
Think I could sum that movie up in man. I clapped when the thing happened
Because that's the whole movie
That's the whole movie is the thing happened the fact that three hours
With like the all the all the like here's the place where you can go to the bathroom
And those were all part of places where one I was debating because I'm like no
You were saying at the San Francisco scene
But that's literally the introduction of Ant-Man who turns out to be super prop very important
So that's a silly place to take a break and second nothing in the last half of the movie lets you get up and walk out
So so there really is just no break points
I guess I only have a couple things I really want to say and they're about they're not about the movies good
I liked it. Yes, but
The movies structure and the way that it got made is way more interesting to me
This is a movie. They're like we're just gonna
We're all gonna just pretend that every single person who ever watches Avengers Endgame
Saw all 21 lead-up movies because we don't have time to do shit
Well, but I'll explain this is the most justified fuck you if you showed up expecting this to be your first
It is wild there. I don't think the majority of actors in that film are even named. I
Don't like no no no no like I'm not one of those people
But in this instance, I would absolutely be the person to yell at you if you're like can I just skip all the rest and
Watch this one. Yeah, like if you actually show up
Trying to go like I want to get on the hype train with this is my first fucking
Like go fuck yourself. You're a moron. I can't I can't deal with that
like do they I
Think they say rocket once
Right, like that
There is no like despite being a three-hour movie. They're dealing with so many moving pieces
There is literally no time at all
Like so we cut to Hulk on the bed on the fucking rooftop with Tilda Swinton
Who is that shut up? You remember her from her movie, right? Good moving on so
first off
The fact that they handled this movie in the way they did meant that they got to do two things that are awesome
Right, you know the thing we love when you expect a big battle
But instead it's just a fucking blowout. Yeah, when they show up and find
Faddles on the farm and kill them in two seconds just
Shit like nothing. I was like, whoa, like literally Thor just goes fuck you cuts his head off
You're like, oh, oh my god. Okay, um
We're wow what now right and then you go five years later. You're like, oh, this is a very different movie than I walked
Exactly, right very different. You expect the vengeance comeuppance the big return and I think no
This is a ah shit man the world sucks now and like they feel that the moment his head rolls
everybody goes
Well, what now and then the answer is fucking
I guess I'm a huge fan
So then we get time travel a lot shit
I'm a big fan of them going through this long sequence of
Explaining how time travel doesn't work like back to the future to yeah
And if you think this movie is anything like back to the future to you're an idiot
Yeah, only to have a solid hour of back to the future to that's correct like so
Noticed notice that we were lied to by the way. Yes
We were told that in finish war would be a heist movie about
Thanos getting the the stones. Yeah, and that part two would be the big fight and it was come our one
The opposite it was a heist movie and everyone was trying to go like where was the heist I guess he kind of went to get the stones
But no this movie is expressly called a time heist and hey
Did you not watch Thor to the dark world because that movie sucks?
Well, fuck you about 48 minutes into this movie
Cuz we're going to that piece of shit doesn't matter
They actually got Natalie Portman back one more time for like a second. I can't believe they even got her
Yeah, I thought she was super burnt and hated that you got stabbed by a raccoon off screen
Doesn't matter she got the big credit at the end credit and she got huge got to walk on the red carpet huge huge credit
Hell man, how are they gonna deal with a character so powerful was miss mark my captain Marvel?
Oh, they're just gonna remove her for 99% of the movie
She's the most
Uncharismatic kind of pseudo bitch ever to the characters who don't seem to like her very much her attitude
I like so like Steph was asking about this like does she seem like she kind of hardened up a bit?
I was like no she was pretty much the same in the other movie. They just didn't have enough chance to build a rapport
It would have been nice if she did express like specifically become more of the Carol that everyone knows nonetheless though
They definitely made you think oh shit. She's gonna come do it and it's like no not quite
But she is the Superman of that world. Yeah
There's no doubt about it. She's the fucking wrecking ball. Yeah that comes in to just blow shit up
The point at she does what Hulk used to do but her but her her
The difference this time is that she goes I got to go because there's more important
You're earth bullshit. It's not actually she really doesn't want to hang around. Yeah
So yeah, like I I there's a lot of shit that was really fun
My one of my favorite things they did was by time jumping you allowed the characters to take on the forms
We wanted them to be already, right?
Everyone goes through their time jump and a lot of the post five year later versions are now
Other versions from the comic references that we wanted. Yes, so Hulk becomes the professor. Yes
I've been looking for that the entire time the last fucking 10 years. I've been look. I'm Hulk everybody
Hey, I'm a big nerd, but I'm Hulk, right?
Hulk talking in Ragnarok and getting smarter on his own was a nice lean in towards it. That was Buffalo's idea
He wanted a three movie arc for Hulk. Awesome. Awesome, right because Hulk is like not getting his own movie
No, and he works fantastically as a supporting character for others
Yeah, so this is the best way to do it. We've tried fuck that. I just love lame
Not really wanting to smash professor Hulk in New York, man. So
Him becoming the professor is fantastic
Natasha getting her red hair out. Yeah, after five years where now she looks more like black widow. Cool. Hell. Yeah, awesome
Um off the cliff with you. Yeah. Well, you know, I will lands in the same pose as Tony's vision. Oh, yeah. Yeah, cool
Um
Cap shield breaks in the same way. Yeah, I noticed that one that one ice Tony's vision. Yeah
Carol gets a haircut. Yeah, rocket raccoon calls it out
Rocket shows up and talks to multiple people all of whom have varying reactions of oh fucking space raccoon
I'm getting emails from a raccoon
Um
Scott Lang is there as Ant-Man as Paul Rudd. Yes, I did say that in that order
Still trying to remind people that he exists. I'm the working man superhero
I fully expected him to come out of that van like
Insane, yeah, and then it turns out he experienced five hours not five years
Yeah, because I would imagine five years in the quantum room was off. Oh, you go nuts. Yeah, but then
Michelle Pfeiffer oh whatever shit up it's time travel fuck off Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah
Yes, she went in his cat woman. She came out. This is a Marvel character
There was that there was
The fact that fucking pepper comes in as rescue
That was it. That was a fun little not as well
Didn't expect to see that coming didn't piece it together when the helmet was there even piece that together
I don't even know what character you're talking about
Fuck you. No, but I was like, oh pepper's gonna wear the suit at the end of the movie
Like I didn't piece together that it was rescue. I don't know who that is. That's pepper's
Yes, yes, I was I mean you like it's not Iron Maiden, which is a way cooler. Yeah
That's another character
But anyway
when
When fucking
When black panther comes out of the portal, yeah, do you remember what he says?
He looks over at Hawkeye and he goes hey Clint
Right, and that's it. What's the point of that? Why? What does that mean back in civil war?
When they when the fight was happening black panther first showing up had to fight Hawkeye and Hawkeye shoots a couple arrows
And he dodges them and he goes yeah, I don't believe we've met
I'm Clint and black panther goes I do not care and then they keep fighting. That's it Jesus so later on when he shows up
He's like oh hey Clint
Because they have that rapport
That was great
Obviously the awesome shit where we're full-on nodding to cap going hail Hydra
Oh sought coming a mile away, but it was great nonetheless that they got that in there
Moment is perfect because you walk in and it's like is he gonna and then he's in the elevator and it's like
It's so similar to the winter soldier shot that it looks like it's there in the same building
It's the same. It's the same guy. Yeah, it's the same goons. All the same guys are the same 100
Like winter soldier was a while ago, so it's easy to forget
I recognize some of the like non-standard goons, but and that's what the whole movie ends up being it's
Throw back to that thing over the last ten years. Yeah, that scene that moment that character
Fucking what's his name the the Hydra asshole that comes in yelling at them?
Dude Robert Robert Redford
Well, though the probably the wildest one that I thought that I might I can't believe they even bothered is that evil
Hydra Nazi bald guy, you know the one that becomes a computer. Yeah. Yeah, they go
Hey, look there. He is and he's like walking into the bunker that he becomes a computer in yeah, and he's on screen for one second
That that's a deep you didn't need that you didn't need to bring that guy back
So he'd be on the screen for one second you can still see the house arrest
ankle bracelets on Hawkeye and on
Fucking at man from their Civil War bullshit
When they when they it specifically shows you like what his feet at one point when he has it on
Like
There's a fucking there's so much shit over the course of those little nods and bits and pieces or whatever
I think Loki picking up the Tesseract and disappearing is gonna be the reason why that Loki TV series gets to exist
Because that timeline has changed forever because they had to double jump
You even if they even if they go back and put it back Loki still did
Jump away. They put back the others. They didn't put that one back that timelines fun. I can't put it back twice
Yeah, so sorry. What's her name?
Stranges mentor Tilda Swann fucking one punch man. Yeah, but
Yeah
What we what while the invasion of New York was happening she was standing on the roof just going
Get out of here. Don't touch this building. No, this building's fine. Destroy the rest of New York if you want I have Agamotto
Fucking just standing there doing it that that that's larry's
There's a cap cap meeting himself when he goes I could do this all day
America's ass, right?
also the
Fucking cutting to the intro of Guardians of the Galaxy one
that is
The best use of their time shit in the whole movie you had to know you had to know that that scene
I want to believe that scene was written at the same time as Guardians one like I want to believe that they want
They knew they're like just show it
Except turn the music off
Just move the camera over because you know those you know those YouTube videos where they like they do like dancing in the street
Yeah, except it's all the sound effects without the music of them going like
Yeah
And it's literally just him doing fucking come and get your love like an asshole with his headphones on and just shit
shitty singing it takes two seconds to knock him out cuz quills are fucking moron
Fantastic
Iron Man's daughter
Morgan yeah, that's the name of
a shitty cousin
That Morgan Stark is like an asshole cousin that Iron Man has from the old comics. All right, so they just pulled that name back as a reference as well
Stanley filmed that reference in
The at the same time as Infinity War, but since this came out last this ends up being the last one
Okay, so I thought the last one was gonna be Captain Marvel. Yeah, but this one was already shot. So okay, that was cool
You know what I you know what we haven't talked about which is like probably my favorite character in the whole movie mm-hmm
fortnight Thor fucking
Fortnight Thor they didn't have the ball. What if I was Thor? That's why
That's how Ultron got into not all time. That's how Thanos got into fortnight
Cross-promotion. Yeah, that's how it happened. Yeah
Second they didn't have the balls to keep the fat suit on him the whole time for tonight people are saying for tonight
I love it. They didn't have the balls dude. They took the fat suit off
Have like after the shirtless scenes. He starts wearing a tracksuit and he's been his he doesn't have the giant gut anymore
just like
Thor being like an absolute fucking pathetic pile of shit
the whole movie
After after getting the kill blow right cuz that's what you're what do you what is your character about?
Just cutting to the him like him and rocket with the easiest job in the world
And he has a panic attack and starts crying and runs off to hug his mom and it's like holy shit
He looked he they're saying he was fat the entire he was fat the entire time
But the tracksuit he was wearing and then the suit at the end it didn't look as fat as his big crazy prop gut
Yeah, was he looked a lot? He still looked fat, but he didn't look as fat as he did when his shirt was off the first time
Well, there was
Yeah, so the placement on it and you like here's the thing you know everyone's gonna come back right you expect it
You already know spider-man is fucking coming out. You know the moments going down
The whole thing is how or could you possibly make me forget about that, right?
the best way to fucking do that is to have the pop-off moment that is
Fucking hammer in Cap's hand. Yeah, which you know is gonna happen
Yeah, but it goes down anyway, and they just lean into it and it's as good is it's it's literally like
Like it's one of those things where you're you can sit there going
Ah, I knew it was gonna happen
But the way they deliver on it is still so fucking hype and like if your audience doesn't explode at that they did
It's like I you know what I mean? Like it's impossible that they don't like it's such a key
so like everyone's coming back what was obvious, but there was a there's a bit where
Even though you knew it was they were gonna have the big hero moment and was gonna be the biggest hero moment
It's ever been ever mm-hmm. I was still
astonished
At like they do it and it's like and these guys and like and these guys and these guys and I'm like
Oh, right them to own them you forgot about them and like and then rocket goes Jesus that everybody
There's so much. Yeah. Yeah, and then the music swells to overwhelm you with how much is going on and then it pans back down
And then you go say the fucking words cap
Sam
It's like and then he says the words and you go
Keep shit
Keep shit rules look at all of them. They're all there consume the product. Ah
Everybody's there
everyone ever
Is there all the warriors and it's like except for the dead ones. Yeah, well, I mean vision's not there
Vision can't he gets Paul bet and he gets to be on the screen for a second. Natasha's not there
No, you know who got a pop that I never expected who?
Fucking scarlet witch when she has her moment going she has her bison Tuesday moment. She has her like shut up Thanos
I hate you. Yeah, and he's like I literally have no idea who you are. Yeah, like the on my audience blew up at that
Did yours? Yeah. Yeah, okay, and I was like I thought everyone forgot about didn't care about scarlet witch
I think the reason why is because they expect what's going to happen to happen
And if that shit hadn't stopped she would have won right then and there cuz she's that good
I mean she's no it's like telekinesis shit cheats. No, she's not telekinesis shit. She's random probability
Yeah, whatever in this she causes the vision by the way that Tony in this movie
She picks him up and he's disintegrating. I didn't think people liked her that much. I didn't realize
But so like
And so that's what I was trying to say is they have they have the shock instant kill Thanos moment in the beginning
Yeah, but they still get to have the real battle with him later at the end
Yeah, you can do a boat which is fantastic because hey, no one ever really dies
No one's ever really gone. No one ever really gone
Yeah, that was great
the
The relay race at the end. Yeah. Yeah, also like it's it's
Spidey is so wholesome
Like I want you to picture that moment right the come out the hug the whole thing the nervousness and all of it
But now make that Toby
Okay, make it Andrew Garfield
It's gotta be Holland it's gotta be Tom Holland it's guy like he's the perfect fucking wholesome and fresh-faced
It really doesn't work and anyone else. That's how you know just doesn't do it shout out to the casting lady
I forgot her name. Yeah feel really bad
Gamora is a weird one. Yeah, because did she didn't get dusted? No
So they go back in time to bring a pre-galax Guardians one Gamora forward so that we can go back to her and Peter
Go on no the end is them searching for her and it just says searching and we cut away from the screen
What are you talking about when up?
When the remaining Guardians get on the ship it says it shows you them searching for Gamora
Okay, well she left and then it doesn't tell you whether they found a different person at this point
She's different. Yeah, she kicked them in the balls
We know yeah, but I don't think she got dusted cuz she switched sides
Yeah, and I think well it's the version from the past but yeah, but but I mean I'm saying like it's like oh
No, she was good when you snap your fingers and go dear infinity got all the bad
Please kill all the bad guys. Thanks the end. Yeah, let's do it and it goes all of them are dead
Yeah, it's not gonna include the girl who makes the switch. No. Yeah, it's too hot
So there you go
Nebula got so much play. Yeah, I was
Really surprised Nebula also gets to like be the single most confusing moment in the entire movie
By far when she shoots herself when she shoots her to her past self and you go up and is then totally fine
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wait what what the same timeline. Yeah, that's it's that is still so weird
We had to I had to have this discussion right afterwards to establish it
But it's like this is a this the timeline established here is not a singular camera timeline
It is a multi-linear timeline
But it does not it doesn't appear to be one where potentials are taken into account
Right, so when you jump on over to the next timeline every time you you go through the thing you're finding another
Version of yourself weird though. You're not interacting with your back. That's a future for yeah
Um
Old cap
Right, that's a nice way to do it. You give everyone there. I'm glad he got old
He gets to he gets to have his yeah this thing. I imagine
He wasn't I
Imagine he kind of thought like let's not have a family because that would be irresponsible for me to leave them
I imagine he kind of hung out with Peggy and then the moment she died
You went just all right
We're just a bunch of fucking pus and then was like okay because if he had a family that he had to leave behind that would suck
So I imagine he just lived out with her at some good times and then come came back. Yeah
Well, he doesn't come back. He just well no goes back to our timeline. He doesn't know he doesn't he's just old
No, but he's but they pulled him back no they don't
He's just old and what happens to walk over to that spot as an old man. That's what happens
He hasn't leave
He goes and just lives his whole life and just good knows. Oh, yeah today's the end of infinity war
I'll just be there when they do the bullshit
He was sitting on a bench
Waiting for them
But they send him back in time. Yeah creates the old man over there
But the timelines that we have are not the same ones were on now shut up
It's stupid so the way that two caps face each other is because the timeline he enters is one
All he had to do is just not run and hang out with himself
He was returning other infinity gems to themselves. Yeah, and then he just hung out, but he's not I hate this
I hate you are overthinking this massively. It's where the camera goes. It doesn't matter. It's a fucking dumb
It's yeah video game like I know I'm I misunderstood that because I assumed that when he warped out
He was gone from that timeline. No, but just listen to what I'm saying
Yeah, I know and then the process of him aging would have had to happen in a different timeline
No, go back in time and get the rocks back. Yeah. Well, that's that that's the fucking
it every time and
Every time anyway, if the camera follows you then then that's where you are and if it doesn't then yeah, who knows
So he was old. He didn't even marry Peggy
He's married some other broad
How do you know that?
This doesn't want to tell Falcon about it. You probably fuck Falcon's mom. Well, Virgil didn't want to tell Dante about it
Yeah, you don't know it cuts to the Pim and Peggy dancing. Yeah
What are you talking about leaves are like two seconds later. Okay. Anyway, so
Yeah, it just it's because
Because it's by the way that is part of Scarlett's vision as well. What that song. Oh
Then the dancing cool. No explanation for how Scarlett made that vision happen though, huh magic
Fucking magic because that what I was trying to remember how it happened. I was like, oh, did he interface with?
Thanos's thing at some point or did he was because because Thanos has a moment where he goes
Oh, you're cursed with knowledge too when they have the fight in the first movie and he goes
Stark and he goes, you know me he goes
I do you two are cursed with knowledge because they're both futurists and they're this to they're both the same sides of
Yeah, they're different sides of the same coin
Yeah, where they believe in cold logic to fix the problems of the future except ones, you know one's evil
So none the other Thanos. I yeah, I was trying to remember what the catalyst was and then I went back to watch it
It was like, oh, she just touches his head and makes you see a thing magic the infinity stone. Which one did she get hit with space?
space reality
No, reality stores. No reality is red. Anyway, she got hit with purple. I think that's not that's power
That's guardians. Okay. Anyway, so yeah, that's the whole thing is I just got confused by the cap thing because I assume when cap
Jumps out that means the world he jumps out of if the camera is still there. He's no longer in that reality
He's in the parallel one
Right, but it turns out. It's not that
If he can still exist if they don't have to pull him back. Yeah
That means old cap was just watching all that both that's what I'm trying to ask you like so cap was watching this whole war
Go down a second time and he was like, I'll be fine and then he comes back. Yeah, and then just sits on the bench. Yeah
But from their perspective they hit the button to send him back and an old man appears on the bench
It's time travel
Okay, so oh
My god, I hate doing this. I really hate it, but it's like if that's the case
Yeah, that means every time they jumped they jumped back on their own timeline. Yeah, so then what's the worry about?
Bringing them back
To fix like for example till the Switton's timeline
Well, had they done had they not branching back then they would have branched
But the branch doesn't occur until until until they decide to not bring them back
But that is a branch in itself. No, that's fine as long as they as long as they say they're gonna bring them back
Right, but it but it but it actually is a branch
No, the moment because they were always gonna bring it back, right?
See if see if Hulk had left and they're just cuz you say it's not a branch if it doesn't mean it's not a branch if Hulk had left and
With the with the time stone, right?
And they were destined to fail then yes, it would have been a branch
However to tell the Swinton two seconds later
Caps showed back up and say here's your stone back here you go. So did Loki get choked out or not?
Yeah, nah
That's not what I asked you
That's why I told you that's what the movie tells you did Loki get choked out
Yeah, probably. I don't know who cares. He needs a TV show
Thank you for clearly knowing the answer to what the movie is the one that makes it confusing
What are you today looking to be for? I'm not the arbiter of this shit
All all that matters to them is they made it confusing enough that they can get a TV show out of it
Yeah, and have Loki wear pink shirts is Batman on it
And I know baby Ant-Man is the proof that shows you that he can come back and be aged differently in the same timeline
Yeah, but the branch discussion is where you have to start thinking about what it actually means though
Because a branch means they fucking invoke back to the future. They do they do which means stop thinking about it
I know they totally do they tell you not to and that's totally fine
so
I'm trying to scrape for other cool things randomly. Yeah, the intro starting with Clint really great
Yeah, that's really good cuz it's like he was gone
What are we gonna do is how many we get a show the fucking snap again?
I mean, oh, right. Oh, we didn't see Hawkeye's life get ruined. You get to see Ronan after the five-year jump
Yeah, that's another transformation. That was great super lame, but it's just it's cool that they got it in there
They got in the space Avenger suits
They got in they got in the space away from how lame Ronan is. I have Ronan's fight so fucking lame Ronan's fine
He's a fucking man going through a midlife crisis Ronan
He's like I gotta take revenge on tattoo a samurai on my arm like Jesus Christ fuck off. He's cool
He's so lame man each shit. You're wrong. He's so fucking. He's such a dork. He's great Clint's awesome. I
Love Clint and you know what?
When they're fighting to be the sacrifice kill themselves like no, I'm gonna be the fuck no, I
Hate myself more. No, I hate myself more. I was so disappointed that was really nuts
I was so disappointed with who won because I wanted Hawkeye to die
But then I was like, oh, but I knew it wasn't gonna happen
And I was like, oh good black widow died. She doesn't have a family. I was happy either way
She doesn't have a family to live for and even if she wanted one she couldn't get it
So the oh Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ man
Cuz I like I like that they said those baron mordo
I like that they went to send Clint and Natasha to that planet cuz I'm like, oh fucking thank god
I don't have deal with at least one of these losers for the rest of this movie. You're so wrong these fucking idiots
Anyway, I knew that the family family family existing meant that Clint would make it
Oh man, you know what is actually what they flipped it on you like four times though
So I get I do want to point out there is like a minor plot inconsistency that I or at least nebula's like a fucking piece of shit
Or they send everyone to the teams and like Thor you're gonna go to dark world and get this shit from Natalie Portman
Hey, you guys are gonna go back to Avengers one and do this shit, right?
And then a nebula tells Clint and Natasha
You're gonna go to verma verma or what a vormir vormir
You're gonna get the soul stone and they're like yeah, and they're like how do we get it?
And she's like you just go to the top of the mountain the red guy. I'll just give it to you
Cuz like the fact that they get there and they're both like wait what is
Super fucked she totally fucking sets that up. Yeah, she doesn't tell them no man
Like cuz like it's only fucking red skull that tells them
I was talking at page about this and pages like why didn't they just bring a puppy? She didn't know chat says she didn't know
So then they should have just brought a puppy. So I just thrown the puppy
What if what if they sent cap and Tony over to the to get the soul stone like that's just the short end of the stick
Yeah, man and
You kind of wonder like is there gonna be some because here's the problem, right if they found a way to hack it to like
Exploit the system and get the stone anyway a puppy then like it means Gomorrah was pointless
Yeah, and it means the old see the reason that I was not smart enough to find the channel doesn't love puppies
You know, so yeah, that wouldn't that wouldn't work
Yeah, and then only that but I kind of wondered I was like are is he gonna have a
Like what did it cost a moment, but he just kind of he's just kind of like oh, I'm sad
He just kind of goes fuck this. Yeah, so there's that
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's his neighbor was piece of shit, but just the the race to self-hatred
You know it was pretty no I need to do it. It needs to be me
There was the there was the fucking community cameo again Ken John guts and got in there as the security guard
Like I'm John. Yeah, sure. You had a cool mustache Tony talking to his dad
That was a weird one because at first I was like, oh, they're having a heart-to-heart and then I was like wait
Tony total I've then I remembered the scene in three where Tony's like a teenager slash
late or early 20s and he's like he was talking to his dad as
Fucking in his madman form. Yeah, and they totally knew each other and he was just a piece of shit prick
Yeah, but now he gets to see that his dad wasn't that that much of a piece of shit back then
Yeah, right before he was born. It was actually Tony's fault that his dad
Like initially I was like, oh, this is a moment where he gets to have a moment that he couldn't have had it's like no way
He was around he remembers his dad is that it's a city. Yeah, it's before he became a curmudgeon
No, it's a bit nuts though that like his dad was that trusting with a complete stranger hanging out in the most secure place that he'd never met
Yeah, that was a little weird a little bit weird a little bit weird that he wouldn't do this
I'm not big fucking evil space cube. Why are you hugging me? Oh, by the way? Here's a briefcase
Yeah, a little bit weird. Yeah, also looks like Jarvis was not
Just a very smart
Just a very intelligent
God damn it really is one of those fucking things Jarvis the the the computer was a backern him
Fucking but it was also his off. Yeah. Did you miss that? I didn't miss what that was a thing
stupid
Just a rather very intelligent system
Let's just talk about the most important thing ever which is that Thor is now a guardian of the galaxy
You mean an as guardian of the galaxy whatever shut up. It's the best which is which is another reference
Cuz I'm like Thor's transformation into fucking comedy idiot has been the best as guardians of the galaxy is the best
It's like we all know who's in charge
Cuz with Ragnarok it establishes that Thor's home is stupid space bullshit
Okay, but here's the thing last time he was there hanging out with them. They were all like look at this chiseled man
Yeah, and now he's gonna be gross and grossed up exactly. Yeah, but it's like we all know who's in charge. Yeah
You are
Oh
Yeah, love it double hammer. I was double hammer was rad
I was so happy that Ford stayed fat in the battle
Like I was so worried that they were gonna they have a thing where Thor was like are
Serious for the thing and he would come back and he'd be all chiseled and ripped and shit
It'd be fucking so fucking. I'll be a bummer
Cap doesn't just replace the stones. He brings back the hammer. Yeah, he has to or else Thor can't finish Thor 2 Dark World
Yes, yeah, but this is not happening on a parallel timeline. It's happening on the same current timeline
Yeah, that means there's a part in Thor 2
Where Thor's like hammer and it takes like 10 minutes to get there and he's like what the fuck
Shit dog and
That's not a branch though. No man. It's a slight edit got it
They got back in the fucking
The rock dude with the little New Zealand accent. You mean talk. I would what's his name?
I don't know his name. It's the director of Thor Ragnarok. I take a watiti. Yeah. Oh
That's awesome. Yeah, it's great and that fucking weird bug monster. It's great plays fortnight with them. Hell. Yeah
And I guess the only other thing is it's interesting how at the end the successor could have been
Either or yeah, because both Bucky and
Falcon or cap. Yeah, and it's just like
Which way are we gonna go with that?
I like that they gave it to Falcon at in the end because Bucky looks like a psycho murderer and
Seems to be trending more towards that but
Bucky has a cooler looking cap outfit. Of course he does and
Falcons cap outfit sucks. Sure, but they'll fix it. It looks super garbage
But like this Bucky looks all grimy and like I love murder. I'm gonna go do winter soldier murder. I love murder
Hey, so what's your theory on how Tony got those stones off because I have one? I
Would like to hear yours first. Okay. I think the fact that Tony made the infinity gauntlet
Literally just an Iron Man arm. Yeah, as opposed to the original
The original thing was fucking crafted by space dwarves. Yeah, crafted by spoilers and the new thing is like
Yeah, it's just it's an Iron Man arm when we yeah, I stole some tech
Yeah, I think the fact that he made it a part of his Iron Man like interface
Yeah meant that he had an option to eject and switch
Control so that he basically got up to him and initiated that yeah as a potential plan
so I think that what happened was is that
It the script called for Thanos to win and then they did a camera cut and then Tony had to have the stones
So then they held up his hand and then he had them
That's that's why that's how I think he got that okay
But the moment goes down the same way it goes down in fucking Naruto
Yeah, when I run up to you and I try to hit you with my kunai and then you kick me away
Yeah, but then it turns out that I fucking did eight things while I was getting kicked away
slash
Joseph making a trail of Hammond hair. Yeah leading up to AC DC
so okay, so what I think happened in that camera cut is that Tony took his hand and
grabbed the rocks in that one second and
Because he had to because he had to have them later
So that cap could go back in time, but he grabbed them super fast though
Yeah, he really fast faster than he ever could before here's the thing think about it this way since
Since there was no branches that means Tony was really just destined to grab them super fast and
Say a cool line. I'm glad I asked you what your theory was and that you gave it after I gave mine. Yeah
Because if I had said mine first it would have it would have been not as what yours wouldn't have been as fun to layer
The other bit is like do you think snapping his fingers with the helmet on would have helped?
I don't know. It's actually the one thing. I don't like about I don't think all is that it becomes you have to snap to use the shit
And it's like
That's just what Thanos decided. I thought that's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true
It should have there's no reason. He actually has to physically snap just wielding it on it
So usually fine. The snap is the nice moment that does the thing. Yeah, it's true
But yeah, the originally right now and I remember I was like, oh, it's the snap that causes that and it's like no
It's because it goes up your arm. Yeah, and it atrophies your shit. So yeah, it's all radiation is shit
See if Tony was smart. He should have just made a robot snap its fingers. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think I think he just had a
He had a piece of tech in the new gauntlet. Yeah, let him switch it up. That was the piece of tech the
The little little Marvel entertainment plot device little ejector boots, you know from on each stone
Yeah, yeah, but hey, it's also, you know that it's the rest. So wait, hold on
You're saying that he decided to eject the infinity stones not when Thanos had his thumb and
Fucking middle finger together for the snap so the Carol stopped it
No, he waited until just the second when he was right there
So they'd all shoot out into his palm. Well, he was too distracted at the time
But the only reason why he wasn't distracted this time is because dr. Strange told him now's the moment by holding
You know, I actually really liked about that moment when strange points at him because he's using all his magic juice
Yeah, damn his hands are garbage
He's he points the finger and his hands are a shaky pile of shit
Because we've established that when dr. Strange pulls out all the magic juice his hands go back to all busted because he's because of the surgery
That's I didn't notice that he's like
Barely make the one with his hand, but that's this is the one in 14 million and 604
he also um
And yeah, and obviously the line there with the whole like I had to go just kind of refresh, but it's like
Tony being like the hero and the most important dude ever because if he dies then no one invents time travel
shoutouts to how casually he invents time travel
By the way, and just kind of goes
Wait, what and everyone's like wait what and he just has a very like oh god, okay?
Yeah, like all what I'd like to also do some big shoutouts to the fact that
When they unsnap everyone Hank Pym comes back to life
Which re-enables the potential for infinite use of time travel in that setting pin particles, which means like
They're gonna they have to kill Pym
Immediately off-screen like no they casually use the tech to send Kat back to do corrections
No, no, but no they just now have the responsibility of making sure it never falls into the wrong hands ever future shit
They have to kill Pym instantly because they can't just have
casual time travel around
Well, they do re but it's protected by the Avengers dude
You can't you can't just you can't keep this story going if you have the ability for the main cast to just go
Yeah, okay, we got this. You know who had the best line
Who's that Nick fury? Yeah. Yeah, what was his line? I forget
Do you even talk he didn't have a single fucking line?
The man who made it happen the
Mr. Avengers
Initiative walks out at the funeral and just kind of stands there is like look not a single line
I'm in the background too. I was is that insane. I got to be here
That's so nuts to me. Um
Not that there's much for him to say or do yeah, but yeah, that was it
Tony being the end all be all of the universe is
Like he's the first one so it's got to be him
Well, it's it's it's just yeah, and and his movie was exactly his movie was the first one
That was a breakout hit that was great and whatever and you know like it was the popular big one
But it's so weird to me because in the comics like
That's cap, you know and here cap is still cap. He's the cap. He's the leader
But there's never sort of a feeling of like okay, but Iron Man is the real favorite though
You know yeah, you don't get that feeling from the comics
But here there's definitely that underlying feeling of love cuz yeah, but Iron Man the movie guys, you know like
There's more factors than just this own thing story at play
Okay, well
That's about
All I can pull out yeah pretty much there's tons more yeah, that's the movie is nothing but more yeah
like that that's like
Fucking fastest-paced movie. I've ever seen in my life
There's no time for anything in that film imagine what got cut on the fucking
You know on the on the cutting room floor and remember this was shot at the same time as the as last one too
Like this was a fucking six hour or five hour consecutive non-stop bullshit like last year or the year before rather
Yeah, oh, yeah, there's the Roscoe bit
Right Ross Roscoe Simmons the name on
caps thing when he goes into the past when he goes to the
Whatever the base. Yeah, and he has the he has the
The office moment where he's staring through the blinds
His shirt says Roscoe on it and Roscoe Simmons is the guy who replaces him when he becomes nomad
Okay, he's the US agent that gets fucking killed hard by the Red Skull
All right, so he just has the yes the name I feel like it's like it's like it's like it's like a Ben Parker
I feel like there was a missed moment Ben Riley where
Like what's his name Hawkeye should have said you asked that red guy
But instead of saying red guy you say ask that red guy with the big skull and
Cat would be like
It'd be like yeah, it was weird. He sounded like Hugo weaving
Red Skull the messenger of death continues to make no sense
But is the raddest piece of art design in the entire MCU and is worth existing for only that reason
Red Skull gets a bad deal on top of that fucking planet because now the soul stone get got no one ever gonna go back and get it
Ever again, there's no explanation for it except for anyone who uses the soul stone
I guess is kind of associated with it
But holy shit, is it the raddest piece of fucking art design in that entire thing? It's great. It's fucking great
Anyway
And he's also just in space now in a place that you can go my god
Okay, so
Somebody in the chat pointed out there was one kid that I didn't understand
Who the fuck it was and it was apparently like it's standing in between the Guardians and the fucking Ant-Man people
Or whatever one kid with like kind of poofy hair apparently that was a kid from Iron Man movies
I remember exactly who the kid is you're talking about he was standing by himself Iron Man 3 child
What girl what what what the kid he runs into when he his shit crashes in the fucking country
You know the little kid he talks to for the first 20 minutes of the movie
He hangs out in the kid's garage
Then he fights the the the fireman in the fucking power plant. I fucking forget man. I super forget
Yeah, I don't remember that that's the fucking most obscure shit ever. I have no idea who that kid is
I do not remember much about Iron Man 3 in the beginning
I remember the end part in the middle of the Manchurian or the whatever. Yeah, the Manchurian and the Mandalorian
Mandalorian was there. That's the one
The end credit thing there's no after credit scene, but you hear the little ding ding ding noise
Yeah, did you recognize it? Did you? Yeah, that's bullshit. You didn't know what it was. Absolutely. You had to look it up
No, I didn't. You really? Yeah, it's the him making the fucking suit
Why are you lying right now?
You knew that that ding was him making the suit of course that's amazing
I'm impressed if you actually caught that I did not I had no idea what the thing was the noise Wow
That's if you did that's awesome. That's a fucking good memory, dude
I had no idea what the noise was. I was like is that church bells like what the fuck is that?
No, it's that's that's it's him making the prototype hitting the helmet. Yeah
That's good job good job. I I really could not tell yeah, no, I can't fucking you know
Get out of a cube, but I can remember that shit
All right
Also those massive elaborate credits with the signatures on them. Yeah, that means you can never reprise those roles
No, I can't like if you come back after that level of I'm signing my fucking
autograph
I am like you're done. You're done. You're done. You're done if you will never be another Iron Man
There could be an iron whatever
But there will never now be another Iron Man or Captain America. You think MCU is gonna have the balls to never retouch recast or retouch
Recast no, but they can make I think they're not I think they're smart enough to Iron Man
To no they have such a gigantic roster to pull from I think the answer will always be grab what we haven't seen
Yeah, you know
Maybe 20 years from now
There might be
Something where they go. All right, you know like hey, they might pull a
Mark Hamill and company, you know like you guys are old now
And it's been decades and you guys are kind of like yeah, maybe we could do one more
You know like they might have one of those moments like Kamen Rider Black, you know, but
I'm gonna go ahead and say that the smart thing to do would just be like not touch those characters
Yeah, you shouldn't touch them and there's a there's a ton to grab. They're not as popular
I want for I want Chris Hemsworth to be Thor all the way up until he becomes a Chris Hemsworth Anthony Hopkins
Say it again. I want Chris Hemsworth to be Thor all the way up until he becomes a Chris Hemsworth Anthony Hopkins
Okay, and then he can pass the fucking hammer down to Bill
Or his daughter fuck it, I don't care
Maybe his daughter can be Bill
Bill's already there by the way Beta Ray Betty, but Bill's already in the MCU. Well his his hammer was
No, like his face
It's on the side of the Grand Masters fucking dome. He's one of the past champions. Oh, yeah
Yeah, so he's out there doing fucking stupid horse shit
Yeah space horse crap. Yeah, we're gonna learn about space
I feel like they've established a stupid enough fucking universe that we the world is now ready for Beta Ray Bill
Like right if you're ready for rocket, you're ready for rockets as bad as it gets right like rockets fucking stupid weird
Howard Howard is as bad as it gets. All right, but he was there. He's there. So Howard is about is actually the
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