Castle Super Beast - CSB 051: The Hustlecast

Episode Date: January 16, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But I don't quite feel very installed, and there is still really less work to be done. ...And I think I've added the fucking supervillains to this If this is here. Nothing's done. If you are a delivery person at a grocery store that brings the groceries, and you do a good job with all the bags, that is the most tip-worthy service I can think of of all the many services. Well, we and I had a fucking surreal moment where a guy who I might as well used to have
Starting point is 00:00:58 known came to Willie's house to deliver him some groceries, and I was looking at the boxes that they use and the plastic little trolley, and I'm just like, I'm the one who stapled that big number one or number two tag onto the thing, and then sent it up only to get a call later that the guy got high and lost it. Yeah. Yeah. There's multiple people in your life that do multiple services based on your day-to-day, but the person who brings up the groceries and does that thing is definitely someone
Starting point is 00:01:31 who's like, you deserve the generous tip. I once walked like eight, no, not eight blocks. I walked like three blocks in the cold but no jacket for this ancient old man who lived in those shitty houses to the east of Dawson, and his house looked like he was going to die. I know that exact neighborhood of haunted houses. You go in and everything looks like he stole it from a mansion and then jammed it into an apartment.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yep. Yep. Yep. And he's like, here you go, sonny. And he gave me a 20, and I was like, fucking sick. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I gave that guy, I was like, this is the sickest day ever. I gave that guy a 20.
Starting point is 00:02:12 When you're making like, what, was it eight, 15 an hour or whatever the fucking was? So yeah, it's like full disclosure is, I used to think, I guess, of my impression when I always saw the like, livraison, groceries or whatever, like the little, whatever the hybrid word they use with the little fucking wheels as an IGA logo or something. Yeah, livraison gratuit or something. Or livraison, domicile or whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I always was like, yeah, I guess that's for like, you know, the elderly slash people
Starting point is 00:02:47 who like are. Well, if you used to be over 65, it used to be free. So I thought the service was exclusively for old people and or people that needed delivery for accessibility issues. And it turns out, no, it's just a service. Yeah. And it's a regular service that everybody uses sometimes. I'm like, wait, so I can just do that if I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah. And go down, do your groceries and be like, I don't have time to bring these home. I got to go do important podcasts. Very important things. Very important things. And to be fair, right? Very. Um, it's one of it's one of those bits where like, uh, Steph's getting more busy with her
Starting point is 00:03:27 like working and schooling and everything going on. So it's like, you do that. I can do this. Yeah. And like taking care of groceries. It's called delegating. Delegating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 The task. She's like, hey, Wolves, can you can you handle the groceries and you're like, got it, babe. Yeah. And then you go to the grocery thing and like my my fiance told me to do this. Can you guys do this? And they're like, got it, man. Go down to the thing. Oh, you do the internet one.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I pulled my phone out, my friends, and I swiped some buttons and I created a list speaking speaking to somebody who used to work in this exact thing. And in fact did some of those internet deliveries myself, I'll tell you this and it may hurt your feelings. You couldn't be more dead last on priority. I get it. Do they, do they, do you eyeball me when you show up and go, you're fine? No, it's the fact that the people who showed up to the store to buy their shit are more
Starting point is 00:04:18 important because they usually live closer and then they're more likely to drop in and buy some stuff. The internet people are almost always on the fridges of the deliveries, which means they're the longest to deliver to, which is why that happened so late compared to the time I was you get, you get put to the back of the truck, man. Yeah. Because I was, I would, they were supposed to bring them two hours before the podcast. Now, since and they brought them five minutes since you gave that guy a 20, however, I bet
Starting point is 00:04:45 you will get your shit right on time from now on. One would hope. One would hope. I fucking bet. Cause those guys, those guys get less tips than you would think. Really? Yeah. Cause people are fucks.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah. Cause people don't give a shit. Cause it's optional. And you're putting it in someone else's hands. The tip curve of humans is a bell curve, right? The middle is, yeah, I kicked them, I had a dollar in my pocket. But you see like on the, on the whole right side of the bell curve is nothing and on the whole side of the whole left side of the bell curve, it's like just slightly increasing.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But that's not a job where it's like, um, that's not a job like, uh, a waiter or waitress where it's, it's like, oh yeah, we are going to pay you with, it's according to the docs legally your tips, like expected for there to be tips. This is just like, Hey man, yeah, yeah, you know, and, and anyway, it's sometimes you look at it and you go like, yeah, you, you, you, you, there's a real, there's a real, you did good. There's a real eyeball to, uh, everything about that in the grocery business, not the delivery stuff so much because I mean the delivery guys, they get an address and they go, but
Starting point is 00:05:58 like everybody in the store, like a particularly, hey, like anybody who's available and free, free moving enough to help an old woman to their car, you get to know the old ladies in that neighborhood real well and you get, and you start, you like look, you're like okay, so she's, she's, she looks like she's almost done for the week and she's in the pasta, she's in the pasta, then it's much more likely that she'll hit cash four and five. All right. Who's on cash four?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yeah. I'm going to ask Scott if he can, if he can get the boxes for me. All right. Now I'm on cash four. All right. Here she comes. All right. Oh, hey ma'am, do you need any help to your car?
Starting point is 00:06:35 That's here. And the way that you tell that is you look and you're like, can that person, can that lady carry that? No way. No way. Were there's original for your trouble? I got a quarter once. Damn.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And I was like, damn. And she, it was a, how do I put this? It was a very genuine quarter. Right. It was like. Meaningful to her. It was, it was, to them, they thought it was meaningful and so I couldn't be upset, but I was like, mm.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah. Yeah. You, you detected, like I blew 10 minutes of not doing shit that I should have been doing anyway. And then I detected that quarter came from the heart. See now what happens though when, uh, let's say I take a trip down to the grocery store and I noticed that, oh, today, uh, the local Bantam basketball team is sitting around doing the bagging and doing your job for you and they're there shaking the boxes, right?
Starting point is 00:07:34 So where's your hustle now? Because they're on your turf. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, the people who work in a grocery store fucking hate those kids. They're always, there's, they, but the boss always says, oh yeah, come on in, free labor, but everyone who's working there is these fucking stupid kids in their fucking basketball. So first of all, they suck up any possible extra money going anywhere to anybody. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Second of all, they fuck things up and cause more work for you than you would have had to do otherwise. How? Uh, so. By not bagging properly. So okay, the usual way that a delivery goes at almost every, uh, grocery store in, in this city is, uh, I do my groceries and I go, Hey man, uh, I'm going to be home in a couple of hours.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I can't take it home right now. Can you deliver my groceries? I'll pay the six dollars or whatever the fuck it is, right? And they go, okay, here's all that has to happen. The person who's getting delivered to writes down their name and address and the desired time onto a sheet of paper. The person, uh, clip, uh, staples it to one of the bags, then they tear the pink one off to give to the person and they keep the green one for themselves and for the delivery guy.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yeah. And then what they're supposed to do is walk over and to the little, usually there's a dumb waiter, the delivery center, uh, a stack in some places they're supposed to take out a big ass marker and they're supposed to write for three or four digits from the paper, you know, in the bottom right of the little address thing to show these bags go with this delivery. But if someone doesn't do that and you have all these backed up fucking things, they go, well, is this part of this one? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Shit. Well, it's right next to it. So that's where it's going. Shit. Yeah. Okay. So the calls that come back and the people, the people that come back and you standing there going for 10 minutes after having gone downstairs and rooting through the receipts
Starting point is 00:09:43 to go through. Okay. Which one is this? Is this the thing to try and cross-reference the, oh no, wait, this one, shit, the wrong one went out. Now we have to redo this person's groceries and send it out. Holy fuck. And I'm not getting the tip because these motherfuckers are all my basketball jerseys.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And as previously touched, the moment the incorrect grocery enters the threshold of your door, it is now contaminated with whatever that person wants to do with it, so it can never be taken. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know if it's leaving your hands or just entering your building, but the point is as soon as it gets passed off, it's no longer good. As soon as it gets passed off, it's not food, it's not a product, can't take it back.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So that's wasted money on top of that, plus like a free bag of whatever, depending on who or what. Like everything, and also they're all like bright-eyed and shit, and they're doing things as volunteers that you would have gotten written up for, like chatting endlessly with each other. And you're like, I literally got wrote up for that last week because I wouldn't shut the fuck up. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:10:54 yeah, but it's the Benton Boys, basketball team. They don't give a fuck about their basketball team. They got to make it out to Amobay. I'm working the shittiest job ever, and now I'm working it for substantially less pay. They got to make it to the league championships in Richelieu. And it always comes down to like, why did you hire all of the, why did you allow all the volunteers to come in, but then also kept the same amount of staff? I'm literally just standing around going, I should just be at home playing Xbox right
Starting point is 00:11:23 now. Sucks. I hate those kids and the doctors without borders too. Cause that's even worse. Oh, come on. That's even worse. I've never seen that. They're scraping for pennies.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Quote, open quotation. I hate the doctors without borders. Close quotation. They're wearing like, they're wearing like, uh, like lab coat looking things. Shut up. And they're like, this is for the sick children's. And I'm like, come on, man, I'm sick. I'm a sick children.
Starting point is 00:11:50 We're putting doctors without borders in the crosshairs today. Yeah, fuck it. I was on board with Bantam basketball boys, but what the fuck are we doing? There has to be a better way to fucking get charity money for the doctors thing without taking it out of my pocket against my will. Wait. So do doctors show up in bad groceries? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I've never seen that. Yeah. I've never seen that. It's weird. That is, and I'm like, oh, you're doing my job that I hate for fun. Good for you, Dr. Man. I feel like the 10 years of med school would like, wouldn't it create such? Wouldn't it be easier to just work one extra day in a year and take the money you earned
Starting point is 00:12:31 from that and put it towards the doctors without borders thing that you're doing? I suppose, but also this is based on public goodwill and, and it's all about doctors without borders need more public goodwill. It's like, Hey, the mirror dogs, you ever see a mirror dog? By the way, mirror is, I don't know if that's Canadian only, but it's the dogs with a little red scarves that were usually black labs that they're, they're, they're hanging their puppies and you, they drag them around and teach them how to help blind people out. Does a mirror puppy need more good PR?
Starting point is 00:13:04 It's an adorable puppy that helps blind people. Yeah. Doctors going to places that need them is a pretty noble gesture. And on top of that, they're like lowering themselves to Hey, you didn't go to nine years of fucking training to bad groceries, bro. Come on. You're right. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:13:30 But that's what I did. I didn't go to nine years of training to do this. I know. No. The world needs ditch diggers and, and podcast and podcasters absolutely. Can we get, can we get? I have a real degree from a real university. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:13:48 My degree? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It was the last time you physically put eyes on it. I didn't have it. My mom said I should get it. And so she sent out for it.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Uh-huh. I think she has it. I have a friend who was going for a job that literally like when the time came and it was like, yeah, so this is your resume. Right. And it's like, yeah. It's like, Hey, but do you have this like certificate diploma by any chance? And there was like, uh, no.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Why do you need the physical diploma? Yeah. And it just be on record at your university and, and then it was like, okay, I guess I'll just say, can you go get it? It's like, okay. And they went back to go get it. And then they were greeted with a like, oh yeah, according to some weird technicality here, even though you like crossed the stage, there was something that was incomplete and
Starting point is 00:14:32 like, you might actually need to go take a class. And this was like years later on as credit for a fucking nonsense thing. You know, so that shit does happen. And it's kind of wild. I definitely graduated with middling marks from my real university. And it, and it, and it, it did you good. It's sure, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I get to say that I'm university educated, which is accurate. Sure. But I mean, it's all, but I mean, that's really common. Like if you say, Hey, I'm college and university educated, like 85% of the country. Like my program, sure, me too, but my program was more of a trade school than it was college education. You still have a college education. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 You still had to take your general classes. You had to take your English, your French, your humanities. You probably had to take a philosophy class at one point. You had to take an economics class. I had to, boy did I have to take a fucking economics class. Did you take micro or macro? We took micro and then we did, oh my God, what was it called? Cultural geography.
Starting point is 00:15:32 What? Is that real? Cultural geography class was, was just poison in your veins. What is that? It is the most boring. It is like, it's like stat methods almost, but even drier because it's really just looking at population numbers in places and talking about demographics, talking about demographics is more interesting because it specifies a group target audience in a way.
Starting point is 00:16:03 There's a topic that is a thing that a demographic appeals to, right? That is precise and thus more interesting. This is broader than that. This is just, this land mass has this number of people on it and the entire study of people in places and the number of people in the place and there's nothing else to distinguish it. Hey. That might be interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Did you, oh man, I'm just trying to remember, there was a guy, because we went to the same stage at me and Wolves and I remember taking, I remember this, this one semester or I'm like, well, God take your economics and I go into the economics class and it was the, this ancient old man who was very thin and had big glasses and you got in that class and you did the syllabus class, like the first one and that, you still have 10 chance to transfer out. Yes, you do. And like 80% of people transferred out immediately because he was old and I don't know what his
Starting point is 00:17:06 accent was, but he's talking about the syllabus and everyone in the class, most of whom are bi or tri-lingual, are going, I don't know what this man is saying. I have no idea what the fuck he is talking about and you're, I'm looking over to a friend of mine, she's Lebanese, she speaks a little Arabic, she speaks English, French, Arabic, I'm looking over my buddy here, he speaks English, French, Russian, I had a friend of mine who spoke fucking Chinese in that class and we're all sitting there with all of our language backgrounds looking at this old man going, nah, it's not happening, it's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Okay. It's just not going to happen. Okay. The failure rate for his classes was astonishing because you basically just had to learn from the book entirely. We for cultural geography, we had a Dr. Phil looking motherfucker with a massive French accent that just had like, it was someone where it's like, you'd almost want to, I'm not saying you have to put passion into being like a cultural geography teacher, but like
Starting point is 00:18:22 you could tell that his life had nothing in it. And it was, I think I fell asleep in the first class, if not second. Good one. But it was just like, there was no alternatives that semester, I just had to take it. So you ride it out, you ride it out. When you, when you, I told the story before, but it's like, when you walk into that first syllabus class for science fiction and fantasy literature and you're like, okay, let's see where this goes.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And this Ichabod Crane looking motherfucker says, sorry, that class is canceled. We'll be instead studying Margaret Atwood. And like, like people are like, is it okay at the 20 minute mark to pack my bags up and walk? Get up and leave the inside. Yeah. Is it? And then he gave a window.
Starting point is 00:19:12 He gave a window and said, so if that's not going to be a thing you want to do, then you can take this window and some people took it. The window gets taken. I was like, I don't want to fucking go. You remember how course registration was? It was the worst. I am not going back through that. It was the worst.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So at the time, right, this is like me in fucking college. I'm like, who's Margaret Atwood? All right. Let's find out. Let's find out. I'm going to expand my horizon. I stuck around. I did not want to do the course load transfer again.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I fucking finished that class and yeah, you've heard me and my opinions on some of that anyway. But I gotta say, it's not higher education is actually high school. I think the funniest class that I ever had to take ever was my typing class because in grade nine, I took a typing class because you had to take it. It was required by my high school and it was on. This was so in grade nine would have been 2001, I guess, and it was on fucking typewriters. And the teacher was she was in her seventies and you were like, Mrs. Whatever, why aren't we on computers?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Because computers aren't going to be used everywhere. You need to learn how to type for real. Now get your little bottles of white out here. And she's trying to teach us all this shit about the home keys and all this shit. And I'm like, but the and like, I think ribbon though, adjust the ribbon. I think my favorite part was that I almost flunked that class despite being an accomplished typist at the time because I had self taught back in like 94 or whatever the fuck when we started using the Internet, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 And it's like, well, you don't keep your fingers on the home keys when, you know, the keys that they all hang on. And also, I'm like, yeah, but I don't make any spelling mistakes and I'm typing faster than half the people in this class like I'm above average. But you're doing it incorrectly. You're doing it incorrectly. And I would like, okay, and I would put my fingers on the home keys and here come the spelling mistakes because it's not the natural like, and did she smack your knuckles with
Starting point is 00:21:33 a ruler? No, she did. She went good. And then she would go back to her desk and sneak a sip of the bottle of vodka. She kept in her drawer that we thought that she thought we didn't know about. Naturally. Always. Everyone's got one of those.
Starting point is 00:21:47 God bless my English teacher. Grade six. Do your do your thing. Yeah. Keep hustling. You just you guys. Take a sip of that one. You guys just do whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I'm just I'm just drinking. I'm high. I got a hydrate. Yeah. Got a hydrate. Ten year, bro. You want to talk about fucking what is the closest thing to hyper mecha armor in this world?
Starting point is 00:22:08 It is fireable. It is not. It is not whatever the military is working on. It is the concept of tenure that is. I put my dues in buster armor and I'm here till I die or quit whichever comes first. What are you going to do? I mean, that's that's that's power. I don't know of any other job that has that level of like, yeah, can't remove me.
Starting point is 00:22:31 No, like it or like I have to be flinging feces in the air. Yeah. You know, and and perhaps a certain volume or quantity, yeah, you know, listen, I just threw one nugget. That's it's OK. Yeah, that'll fly. It's fine. It was it was kind of dry.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So it might it might be down to a volume. It's wild. Now, to be fair, yeah, I have friends who have been have been teachers. I have friends that have taught at all dad and friends that have done social work. Teachings fucking hard. Oh, I believe it. Because it's it's customer service in which you are never allowed to get rid of that customer. And not only that, but they're going to be around for months.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, I got to peek behind the curtain nice and early in elementary school because one of my first jobs ever was my my teacher in elementary basically hired me and my buddy Dwayne to go wash dishes in the teacher's lounge after school. OK. It was for it was for five bucks a week. Right. And sometimes you get the leftover. That's assuredly a violation of some labor law.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It was five dollars a week. And it was and you get sometimes you get the leftover like snacks that they put in the lounge. Oh, wow. Right. That's the perk right. We were yeah, we were in there with that. But being there washing the dishes after school every day, you get to hear like you get to hear some shit.
Starting point is 00:24:09 The people coming back from the trenches going in and plopping down on their desks or at the couch or whatever and like you get and you're hearing the stories and the war tales and all that's so worth the filters and everything coming off. And you're like, these are not the nice people that I thought they were because like they at a certain point their guard is down because you're just the teacher's lounge is a sacred room and you're just whatever the dishes are being washed over there, you know, like and we're kind of it's like the kitchen section actually has a wall up. So if the kitchen if the sink is running, they might not even see who's washing the
Starting point is 00:24:45 dishes. So it's just no one's thinking about it. Dishes. So they fuck in. Those are the moments where like, yeah, you hear them go like, I fucking hate that fucking hate him so much, literally, literally, or like, can you believe this shit ass principle? You know, that that the that the fucking board sent us that we got it. They switched it up on us and this new one and she seemed like a nice lady, but some
Starting point is 00:25:11 other nice ladies didn't like this nice lady. You're like, but you're all nice ladies. Why? What's the problem? And it's like, no, we want her dead. And that, you know, it is the the interpolar come out, the politics of it. And you're like, wow. And the gossip. Oh, did you hear so and so fucking around the door of the teacher?
Starting point is 00:25:32 And never, never, never anything like that, never, never anything in terms of like, like the fucking personal lives or the inter that never, that never came out. But it really was just like a wild glass shatter of like, I thought everyone was misfrizzled. And then the ones who were mean were mean outright. Yeah. Like you had a mean teacher that was mean to you up front. And she was just like awful all around 24.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah, I mean, everybody had. But everyone who was nice was probably nice 24 seven. And then it's just like, no, that's that's them being on. There's the facade of like, got to help the kids. Got to help. Got to help the the most of the kids, except for that one kid. He's fucking it up every day. I swear, God, yeah, yeah, it's.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It was not it's you're not you're not supposed to hear those things. No, at that age, that would fuck you up probably. Yeah, yeah. I remember to that the way we the we. Me and Dwayne decided one day to take a stand because we were like five dollars is beyond absurd. This is the stupidest, craziest thing ever. But there's no other way.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We're like, just what other opportunities do you have? Well, how old were you like 10? Fucking what? You know, like, so you got so summer time, you're not mowing lawns. So we basically just said, all right, we've been talking about it. We're like, you know what, man, let's just do it. Yeah, let's just do it. Let's go and tell her.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And we're just like, listen, Miss, at the end of the day, like we're coming in here and sometimes we're doing like you guys are having like extra large events where there's way more dishes in a given day. Yeah. And we're doing these all for a dollar a day. Yeah. And we're doing these all for like five dollars at the end of the week. And we think that our time and our efforts should be worth more than that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Absolutely. So we both here are saying that we we're demanding a raise. OK. And we were demanding a raise and we want to and we didn't want to say what number because we wanted to know you always let them set exactly. Exactly. You know, and so they're like, we're demanding a raise. And like it's just it wouldn't be worth our time otherwise.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Right. And she was like, OK, kids, thanks for all your help. Take care. Like that. And I was like, OK. So the problem with that is that you learn quite easily is that if supply outstrips demand. Gee, where can I find two kids to dumb kids in the school?
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. Yeah. Of thousands. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Oops, whatever, man. That's not that was not a good use of your time. We walked for what it's worth. You were principled and you left.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Learned learned the good old capitalist. You shot your shot shot my shot. Yeah, I learned the ways of capitalism that day. Not too long after I traded in that copy of Star Fox and got the Toonie and the Looney and went, fuck me, that's how it go. And oh, yeah, I got three dollars for trading in Star Fox. And I just thought about all the memories I had playing the game and how good it was as I was handing it over.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And then I got a bag of chips and a coke out of it. And I went, fuck all of this. That was not worth it. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be something when I grow up. It dude, like this was these like trying to make money in a time because it was also an era where I was like, basically, it was like, my mom was my mom was not going to give us was not giving allowance at that point. So we just had to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And it was fucking rough. And like, that's that's what led to the bullshit. Like the stories I told about like the fucking kid with the ice cream truck. Yeah, you know, we're just like, you have to fight to get at this truck and whoever could physically make it to it. And by the time they opened up was like, all right, you got it for the day. It's your truck. Yeah, you know. Yeah, not a not a great situation for kids trying to.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I shoveled snow and looking back, it wasn't worth it. Shoveling snow is like a 10 year old. It's like your entire day. Like it's only on the weekends, right? Your entire day is gone. How much did I make? Fifteen dollars. And my back sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And it's weird as a kid to have your back suck. And like, yeah, I should have just not done that. Yeah. I remember when my dad thought he'd teach us the value of the dollar by having by having my me, my brother and cousins, like the fucking the rat pack household, he got us all to go out into the backyard and pick dandelions out by the roots. OK, basically to de-root the yard.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And he said he was going to give us a wholesome dime for every dandelion picked. And you heard, OK, depending how much are out there and you full, you fill a bag up with these big ass fucking dandelions and you're like, yeah, bam, there it is. And then you count them up and it's like, cool. Here's a dollar fifty. Yeah. Here's two for like, what is an evening of work? And it's like, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:30:51 This is done. Good. This is done. Good. Yes. Learn. Yeah. Yeah. Like, where are the fucking where are the Fox Connets being set up in my backyard for this level of absolute fucking horseshit? When you're an adult, you can trick kids into doing all sorts of stupid shit for low pay. It's bullshit because we have no options. Well, they it's not I don't even have any options.
Starting point is 00:31:17 They don't have the the the fucking experience in the in the in the in the workforce. Yeah. Yeah. To know that a minimum wage exists. Yeah. Also, if I had to pay myself in the past, the minimum wage to mow the lawn. Yeah, I would have just done it my fucking self. Right. Right. I guess by like, by the time I was actually like of age, where I was allowed to get a job, I probably had worked five, but they were all this type of horseshit. Yeah, every single one of them.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I had one incredibly lucrative job. Ever. Like it was the most lucrative job I ever did until YouTube. And that was I convinced my dad to go have Z's with me on a CD burner. And then I spent two years in my last two years of high school lending copies of Starcraft to my closest friends. Wow. Lending about 200 copies of Starcraft to my closest friends. Wow. And lending copies of Final Fantasy nine to about a hundred of my closest friends. And because the FF nine takes extra discs, and I have to spend the extra
Starting point is 00:32:36 time burning them, the disc costs like a, you know, dollar. So I guess I'm going to charge like two dollars per day. There was no spools back then. No, you had to get the individually wrapped cases. Yeah. So I would have to charge like an extra couple of bucks per disc. Yeah, don't take a trip up to Frosty's, whatever you do. Don't fucking do that. Don't go down to Frosty's versus no tax and no one gives a shit. On the on the Conawaga Reserve.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, just barely on that reserve so that it counts. No tax. Yeah. So I had a similar hustle. Yeah. That I was able to run that again, the most lucrative of all of these endeavors for me was myself propelled entrepreneurship. Yes, my vehicle into lugging a 24 case of cola. To my locker. Yeah. And selling sodas out of my locker. All right, Randy. Yeah, because straight up there were no vending machines.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, kind of vending machines in the schools will make the kids fat. Yeah, no vending machines in my school. And and they did not sell like anything besides like water, juice, milk, you know, type of thing. So soda was at a premium. Yeah. And guess who wants fucking soda? Kids. Everybody at recess. Everybody. So I made it. I made like it was quite simple.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I am like, hey, mom, can you next time we do the grocery run? Can you get me a case of the mix? You get the mix with the root beer on one side, the crush, the cream soda, all that, whatever, the variety pack. Yeah. And then, yeah, I just I'm lugging that to my locker and that was fucking good. Yeah, that worked out nice. And of course, kind of premium in charge on that dollar. OK. A dollar, you know, but per per day, per per adult, per item, per day, per item, per day.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And and and what would end up happening is in a lot of cases, people would open up a tab and I'd have no problem with that. That's good. So people would come by at recess, be like, you're going to get one. I'm like, yeah, yeah, tab you up. I'm just going to write it down. Can't get one at lunch. Yeah, yeah, got you. Yeah, got you. And then come Friday.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And then and then you own them. Yeah, come Friday. That's a fucking healthy. Were you always like a tall, you play football in high school, right? I played football. So you didn't have any trouble getting getting your shit back. No, no, no, no, no. Uh, no, no, I'm not saying that you use your size
Starting point is 00:35:01 to either intimidate or acquire. I'm saying you were a larger child so that people would go, I don't want to owe the larger child money. I did not have any issues getting what I was owed. What I did have issues with, yeah, was our school provided us with these fucking blue locks and these fucking blue locks were the kind where all you have to do is take them, hold them sideways, right? So imagine if your locker is hanging with a lock on it, right?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, a combination lock, a combination lock, right? You take it and then rotate it so that the combination is facing the sky. Yeah. Now turn it so that it is facing like once it's facing the sky, you pull on the locker handle so that it tightens up and stays there. Yeah. And then you rotate it to the right. You understand? So now it's now it's facing the sky. And the with the right side of the combination lock is touching the door of the locker.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah. Now you're pulling the locker door so that it is taught against it. You take another one of those lockers, smack it right on the left side that's facing you. That shit goes open fucking like nothing. You know, what's funny is that that's really hilarious. We didn't have those locks. We had the shittiest master lock locks money could buy. And the funniest thing about the shittiest master lock locks money can buy back in 97 is that you didn't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You just took your shoe off and then hit it once. Wow. And it opened. So yeah. And you're like, why? And so the thing that people would do is they wouldn't go in your locker. They would just take your shoe off, smash it, and then put the lock back backwards and upside down so that it would be a massive pain in the ass to open legitimately. Yes. Yes. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Now, this was a post loss Gameboy. So I already had this data and it was a fool, right? But I just didn't anyway. Theft exists. So you come back to the locker and what the fuck? A bunch of drinks are missing, right? And then I'm like, OK, all right, let's see who's drinking soda today. Yeah. You know, and I never and I didn't see anyone on that floor drinking soda.
Starting point is 00:37:27 But I did see a spilled can down by the calf. And I'm like, there's only like so whoever had it went and drank it down there away from me. And then, yeah, so that, you know, and I'm like smart. And that should happen. And like the first time they did it, they just took one or two. So it didn't. I didn't even notice the dip. Yeah. And then then then by the third time, it was like, oh, you now you're feeling yourself. Blows me away. So that was the problem.
Starting point is 00:37:54 It wasn't direct, not paying me back. It was the fucking break in blows me away. We had we had cameras in the hallways of my high school. Yeah. To, you know, down the long ass hallways and down the all the all the hallways ahead, lockers in them had a camera pointing down. I don't think they were ever used once to determine who robbed somebody's locker. Ever, ever, ever. Yeah. And all anyone could ever think of, because it was common.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. Is you would go to the principal or the or the security guard, you know, the one guy they have that's like half time. Yeah. A maintenance man, a security guy. And be like, can you just check the camera? It was right there. It was 10 minutes ago. Yeah. And they're fucking. And they go, no, no, I can't. And and exactly. So a lot of the times you you'd get answers like that.
Starting point is 00:38:43 You get answers like to the effects of we can't. Right. And when my fucking, you know, so like I like I got my Gameboy stolen, got no help on that. I got my fucking my Zelda money stolen, got no help on that. Yeah. Right. So it just became a like, these are these cameras don't work. This is just a lie. And then when a dude we knew we knew got expelled, actually,
Starting point is 00:39:12 got kicked out of our school because he got he got caught getting a blowjob. Around the corner somewhere. All right. And then they had the footage of that that they were able to show to for them. Like, oh, these cameras do work. Yeah, they do work. They just refuse to turn them on for anything or to use the or get the footage for anything, I suppose, unless it goes. What are we going to do? Help every kid that has a problem?
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah. Clearly, I remember. Do you remember when my let's let's pull this illegal now? Basically, child porn, you know, do you remember when my DS got lifted out of my pocket in Alexis Neon? When was that? That was we were in college and I was on my break and it was I say 2004. And I was playing ace attorney at the time. It was like the week after I got ace attorney.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You remember, I was being an asshole, yelling objection. OK, fucking club space. Yeah, OK. I got my fucking DS. Let DS light lifted out of my pocket out of my coat pocket while I was eating lunch. And I noticed it relatively fast because I almost finished lunch in the and like, oh, shit. So I ran out of the security office, which they have at the Alexis Neon. And my dude, somebody just lifted my DS worth like 200 bucks.
Starting point is 00:40:20 They're probably still here. Can you can you just check the camera? And then you guys can go again. It's like, no, I can't do that without a police report. Like, no, I'm not asking to see it. I don't care. But can you look? And go can't do that without a police support.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So what are you here for? You to collect a paycheck. Yeah, but like you could do your job like to do it. If this happened to you, would you not want to stop the? Of course. But no, doesn't matter. Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. The security in that building was so fucking bad, because that's where the that's the grocery store where I used to work. Yeah, in that building.
Starting point is 00:41:01 They were so fucking awful that we had to call the cops half the time for shit that the security in the building was supposed to be able to do, which is usually eject narrow to wells. Yeah. Right. And it's like, no, we're not doing that. And you're like, well, I'm here to laugh at you. All right. This is this is all right.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You people are awful. Everything about that area was fucking weird. I found a shotgun shell on the fucking pavement. I found it was right out front, you know, where the coffee shop was the one in the face of the metro fucking shell just right there on the pavement by itself. I picked it up. I'm like, oh, this is a not. This is a real shotgun show. OK.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And then I'm like, wait, the fuck do I do with this? Yeah. Yeah. We live in fresh Canada. That's not that shouldn't be. So I ended up taking it to that same security office and they went, what the fuck do you want me to do with this? And I went, I don't know what's your problem now. Jesus fucking Christ.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Now, I know to our American audiences, this may not sound shocking to find ammunition on the ground. But I don't think that is that is rare. It is an extremely uncommon occurrence, probably indicative of something nefarious. Yeah, if if that were to happen, because the the the the guard guys, La Guarda, the guys that come in to get the the the safes and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:25 They don't carry shotguns. No, they carry gigantic like pistols, pistols. Yeah, that's what they like. So who's who's walking around downtown Montreal with a shotgun? Yeah, who's who's getting out of their car in a hunting trip and going, yeah, I'm with the opening it. Yeah. And they're shells. Right. Yeah. What is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Weird. Yeah. I like that. I remember my brother told me about when he almost accidentally crossed paths with a guard, a refill that was happening. I don't care for them. They're twitchy and like he had his headphones in and he just wasn't paying attention. Yeah. And like so he just walked past the barrier point.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah. And then like was kind of just not paying attention until he came face to face with someone going here. Like he's like whatever and then he's like what? And he looks up and the dude's like, you stop. And he has his hand out like this. Other hand on the weapon guy who's at the machine is paused. You're right.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And like he's like, what? Huh? What? And just like the full on daydream type of thing. And it's just like, are you about to die? You know, yeah, like type and it's like, OK, those guys were really jumpy. Like the instant they walk out of that car, they seem terrified. They seem terrified in the business that they're taking the safe out of. And you're like, what?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Somebody's going to jump you because they would come to the store. And they're like, they're going to jump you in the store. Well, it's what the fuck you expect. It's no, it's PMC behavior, right? Yeah, it's a bit. It's it's not exactly the same as like the the they're not cops. They're not cops. They're not cops.
Starting point is 00:44:09 They're guards, but it's like it's private military behavior where you're like you're on the extra jump to be like extra granted. They were carrying around very significant sums of cash, certainly. And they clearly do have the right to do what is necessary to defend that. Yeah. You know, however, like there is a twitchiness in general. There is a there is a bit of a day to day. It's to day the day, Willie. Like, you know, that's what they're thinking of every time they get out.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Or was it was I forgot it's a gift from so long ago. But is it like someone opens a door and sees a bunch of clowns and then they stop and then turn and slowly look at the person and then the person closes the door? Did that ring a bell? I know what you're talking about. There's like, OK, whatever. It's just one of those things where it's like they're very much like
Starting point is 00:44:55 if you are in that area, if you are all even trying to cross the street or whatever, the guard of people are like you are Z targeted right now. Yeah, you can tell when it's active and when it's not, you know. Anyway. Getting getting thefted sucks. Yeah, not good, not good. I had a question. Getting hustling is good, though.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I had a question from way back at the beginning of the conversation. Terrible lesson. The adults in our school system taught us. Explicit the kids. Don't work hard at a at a real job. Either invent your own or get on the hustle if you want to make any money. What a terrible lesson. Well, that teacher
Starting point is 00:45:38 set you up to sell those sodas. So so here's the thing, right? While you're learning how to be a productive member of society in school. Yeah, the real secret lesson is what they show you along the way with behavior. Yeah. And yeah, that soda trek was like there's a bunch of little middle spots in this in the system that I can just I can you find the dollar. You find the holes and it works out and that that was lucrative as fuck. Like I said, especially when people, kids who did have a much larger
Starting point is 00:46:10 allowance than me would just kind of kind of come over and be like, OK, so yeah, that was this week. Here's your here's your 10. And I'll be like, fuck, yeah, off of one person. But anyway, that lock thing. Outrageous. Yeah. After catching that, that's when you switch to, you know, the bad, the the spherical bad boys that are underneath the the arcade cabinets. Yeah, those fat fuckers.
Starting point is 00:46:31 We get one of those bitches up on the locker and it's like, yeah, you know what, this is going to be a pain in the ass for me to open every time because the thickness of the of the bar barely fits through my locker hole. But you are not getting in there. No, I was going in and that was that solved that problem nice and quick. You weren't allowed to bring your own custom lock at my school. Oh, fuck you. Fuck. And then everyone's like, why do we even have locks then?
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah. What is the what is the actual? We need to the school needs to be able to break in if need be. Yep. That's it. Yeah. Fuck you. And it's like. They never caught anyone searching their locker. Nobody who was pulling dirt was stupid enough to put it in their fucking locker that could that anyone could get into and steal from. Like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You know what else I learned, too? I learned about the hustle that comes from the kid. A few lockers down buying his cans of pop. Yeah. And bringing them to be like, hey, yo, who wants who wants a can of soda for seventy five cents? Are you serious? Who wants a can of soda for a seven? Like, Gavin, you son of a bitch. This is my racket. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:47:44 This is my racket. God damn it. You coming in on my turf? Yo, don't you have the decency to go to the other side of the school? This is my corner. Oh, this is bullshit. This is my corner. He rolled in. He rolled in with his own fucking case. Right. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:48:02 He didn't have he didn't have the variety. Oh, my God. He just bought the small twelve case, right? I was rolling the twenty fours in with the variety. And this motherfucker was rolling in with the twelves of just default Coke. Oh, give me a break. Right. Coming in with just that. Like, I'll get a default Coke for seventy five cents.
Starting point is 00:48:22 But like, and he did not have what it took to carry that giant thing on the bus to school on a regular basis. Oh, so he didn't always have it. He didn't know it was just work to carry it in. He was like, oh, fuck that. I was bringing my fucking. If you're going to hustle, you've got to hustle, man. That's what the pay is for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 The struggle of getting it to the school is why you're making the money. That's the human labor that equal the money. But he fucking he stepped into the market. I remember you learn so much more outside of class. You learn so much more about the way the world works, you know. And that was a situation where it's like, OK, at that point, what do I do? Do I drop to seventy five? No. Do I move? Do I budge? Do I intimidate? Right.
Starting point is 00:49:08 What do I? And he's just like, I see, I see what you're trying to do here. OK, bro. Right. And like, buy out his seventy five cent. I mean, at that point, at that point, no, not necessarily, right? And he was a friend. Yeah. But I'm like, that's OK. I see what and it's like, hey, man, we got to eat. Right. You offer to do my favor so that he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So he makes it go away. I offer a better product. Oh, yeah. You just offer a better product. I offer you variety on a day to day basis, consistency. Because guess what? Oh, what's that? He didn't bring the Coke this week. Oh, well, who did people? This conversation is going to be wilds to listen to half
Starting point is 00:49:47 like half attentively, perhaps, perhaps, yes. But he didn't bring it this week because he didn't have the wherewithal. I did. And I got four choices for you. Would you want your grape soda? I would like a grape soda. I got your grape soda hookup right here. You know what it is every time. I mean, I had a tropical punch monster, but I would prefer a grape monster. The problem with it, of course, was not many people are fans of cream soda.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah. So that's a success. Soda didn't move. Yeah. But the others did. Yeah. So you just don't buy extra cream sodas. You just leave them. I mean, you'd always have a bunch of cream sodas left at the end. Then I'd bring those home and it was what it was. It was what it was.
Starting point is 00:50:25 It was a pack of what you eat in your own supply of cream soda. And they weren't moving. Yeah, they weren't moving. What are you going to do? You know, I put what I probably should have done was sold them cheaper. Yeah, I should have been moving those for 50 cents. And then people would people who didn't have the dollar would be like, fuck, I'll take a cream soda. Yeah. Or or you get two for a dollar.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. Right. Like you do something with it. You got to get a move. But I didn't at the time, you know, we were just figuring it out on our own. But that's how it worked, man. That's how it worked. See, at a certain point, of course, I imagine everybody's enjoying their copies of Starcraft. At my school, nobody had the amount of money they needed to actually play the games they wanted to play.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Nobody. I didn't either. So you would lend to your friends quite often. Yeah. Starring that era of Starcraft pre CD key required for online play was the the fucking absolute. Like you never really went over to Shammadi for any reason. Did you Shammadi? No, I barely even know what that is. It's in Laval because of fuck fuck Laval.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Because yeah, I grew up in Laval, but fuck Laval. Yeah, but we had we had the we had our shopping center with Oz in it. And Oz was the only video game rental store that still rented PC games. Wow. For that's crazy a long time. Like literally, I think they stopped in like the aughts. That's crazy, where they would rent out a bunch of shit, right? Super video schwa shut down.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah, videotron shut down. Yeah, blockbusters were starting to move on in by the time. But that was way after I had left. But Oz would rent out PC games. That's wild. Yeah, fucking actually. So you fucking infer what you need to. Yeah, from that information. And they didn't fucking care.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They were making their money. But it was really just like, OK, is this what you want to? Yeah, fuck it. So like you combine a little bit of that with you with, you know, the guys in my local micro play were quite aware of the hustle that was ongoing with the 10, the 10, 15 to 20 year olds that would rent a dozen PS2 games for them for one day. And then come back with all of those PS2 games go.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Thanks, man. They got it. Yeah, they didn't care because rentals were high. Yeah, rentals were fucking high at that micro play. The it was really weird watching the. So we had the micro play near us where there was a micro play. There was there was Cosmix comic shop. And then there was the Mira arcade, right? And there was also like another comic shop up the street.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And these businesses all like they kept every grass is greener theory. Yeah. Applying in droves because the micro play is like, OK, these kids going up the street, they're going in and they're paying a bunch of quarters into these arcade machines. Those people are making out like bandits. Yeah, we need to put consoles in and charge two dollars for half an hour to play any console. That's a terrible rate. Well, that's what they did.
Starting point is 00:53:38 That's right for them. And they put in they put in three setups and people came and played. Yeah, people came and played instead of going to the arcade. They did that, right? And then a fucking comic shop up the street is like, how about you come check out our our consoles and you can get you can get five bucks for an hour. That's crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:54:02 And you can all drive each other into the dirt, but you can switch games up as well. Oh, oh, shit. So you can switch games and you can play with your friends together because it's the console. It's not one player, right? And you're like, OK, and like they started implementing that. And then suddenly micro play is like, yo, these comic guys are are fucking. They're making bank on these Pokemon cards. Yeah, we got to start rolling and they start clearing out shelf space.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Oh, my God. And putting cards up and start, you know what I mean? And then you just everyone becomes the same shitty because they all think that they're making bank on these other things. And you're like, you I what are you? I just perused a comment that showed up in the in the chat that cracked me up, which was a a fellow hustler that in their high school experience went to the store, bought League of Legends currency cards
Starting point is 00:54:53 and then would sell them to their classmates at enormous markups because those kids didn't have credit cards. OK, because you need a credit card to buy in game currency. Yeah, I feel like I feel like like. That would still work for any. Hey, man, you want an iPhone game? Anything that needs a credit card to get your fucking. Hey, man, I'll I'll buy it for you,
Starting point is 00:55:20 but it's it'll you'll have to pay me twice as much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dad, can I use your credit card? I will pay you back with interest. Really? OK, whatever, hustler kid. It's you got to work. You got to work within the framework you're given. What do you got? What can you use?
Starting point is 00:55:38 That being said, if you're not creating a tech startup in grade nine. Yeah, what's the fucking point of you? I don't know. Just you've already failed, you know, if you're not talking to Silicon Valley. So the bar is a little bit higher. But at the time, at the time, I thought that taught me the value of the dollar. The fact that I was too poor to buy video games into the ability to buy a high end PC around Diablo two's launch.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Well, I'm too poor. I can't play video games. What am I going to do? I'll figure it out somehow. Fuck picking dandelions. I'll tell you that much. Yeah, yeah. The real alpha move would have been to get your soda money. And then when your dad offers you the fucking dandelion shit again,
Starting point is 00:56:25 you fucking pay somebody garbage to do the dandelion shit for you. That would have been hilarious. He was long gone by then. But that's but what are you going to do? It's the timeline. But if the timelines lined up, that certainly would have been interesting. I wouldn't have minded it. I wouldn't have minded it.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I was going to say I was going to say early on that. Like, is there on the nature of the hustle game? Like, I feel like the whole thing where you know, it's like we were talking earlier about someone handing off the bag and the moment it touches your hands, it's contaminated. It's gone or or again, like, is it almost like entering the area around your door? Like in Death Stranding, where as soon as you enter the field, it is automatically now considered the passage.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's the pass off, right? So, like, at that point, why wouldn't if these Uber eats steelers and thieves? Oh, my God, right? If these food delivery thieves, like, why not even just be like, hey, look, you're going to get your proper food, but that's pointless. I'll take that. And why not even run your scam in a way where at the very least it would be, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:41 Like, wouldn't you be able to like? Isn't there a hustle somewhere in there? No, there's no hustle in there. Whereas I'm hungry. I'm going to take this person's food because you like, can't you be less of a piece of shit? No, no, we're at the very least. If it's if it's in a situation where it's already fucked stealing food.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I don't know why maybe it's because I like food is a personal thing when you eat it or whatever feels like so outrageous. It just it causes like like food rage. I don't know what to call it. Yeah, right. It's it's it's fucking with you on a personal level. It's like it's not actually happening, but it feels like you were about to eat a bite of a sandwich and somebody just gingerly grabbed it and just went, no, no, maybe
Starting point is 00:58:25 because it's the source of everything your reptilian brain is telling you to fucking worry about. Maybe it's because literally sustenance being taken from you by another creature is the core cause of your being. Let me ask you a question. Just punch mom, just reach across onto your plate and just pick a piece of food off your plate. And now that sounds nice.
Starting point is 00:58:49 That sounds nice. No, she usually to be able to sit there and have your food in front of you and not have to worry about somebody just going, oh, that looks good. Oh, it's mine now. Yeah. Yeah. She'll often she'll often gingerly ask at which point I can give an overblown. Get the fuck out of here. Should have ordered your own if you wanted it. You remember that that that tweet that was going around a million years ago,
Starting point is 00:59:14 which is a photo of a restaurant menu and the restaurant order was my girlfriend isn't hungry and it was whatever your order was, plus an extra side of fries and like a side. They would they would stack up your plate with slightly extra. That's good. So that once you would reach across and steal like a third of your fucking plate, that's what it would work out. That's smart. Yeah. But no, it really is.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It's tripping a wire in your brain that is absolutely just like, oh, it's time to kill for this food. I want my food and food and mine and my food. I didn't think it could get any worse until I saw the video of the guy somewhere. I think it was I think it was like a delivery in India where a dude was opening the bag up and eating the top layer and then patting it back down and then resealing it. And.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And that was like everybody's everybody's brains lit up. Like the lights were just like, oh, this is. Oh, this is a universal reaction. This is war. Oh, no. You go to war for less. I'm getting creepy head tingles on this side of my head. I don't like it. Oh, and and it like that thing flew up and those and the person recorded was recording them. This guy sitting at a red lighter sitting at a break, whatever he's doing,
Starting point is 01:00:44 going in the bag and then he'd eat a little bit more. And then he'd pat the top down so that the top layer looked like it was, you know, fine, and then did the reseal on it. And he had the state that's the tape to put it back around. And you're just like it really triggers something primal. You know what? You know what also does this blew up on on the social media. I think last month, which was a guy, one of those guys,
Starting point is 01:01:09 you got a like pretty regular suburban home, but it's got a camera facing out from inside his house behind the screen door towards the porch, right? And. It videotapes a UPS or FedEx guy in the truck for a couple minutes who then sprints to the door to slap the sticker on the door. Awesome. Except when he goes to slap the sticker on the door,
Starting point is 01:01:35 the guy pulls the door open and goes, do you have something for me? Yeah. And then the guy leans forward, slaps the sticker, goes, no. And then and just sprints away. And he goes, are you sure? Like, no, don't have anything. Wait, he can't. Yeah. What are you supposed to do? You got to just get out of there. Wow. And then that blew up on social media. And then I think it was FedEx is like, can you please contact us
Starting point is 01:02:02 with the information of this? Is there I always make reference to the duck man joke because the duck man joke is like, hey, duck man, can you leave? He's like, I can't waiting on a package. Yeah. You know, and he's like, I know those fuckers are out there. I know he's looking around out the window. And then he finally corn fed convinces him to leave his house and he leaves and the moment he walks off his blockstep,
Starting point is 01:02:22 the UPS guy leans out of the bushes, goes, sorry, you weren't here. Slaps him on the door and jumps back into the bushes. You know, so like the brazenness when you're caught to keep it going. I guess you just have no escape. Because what are you going to do? Go back to the truck and say, yeah, actually, you caught me. That's amazing. That's fucking.
Starting point is 01:02:47 That is. But you watch it and you laugh. And then just you feel a bubble in your stomach. And just just like. The deep rage. Yeah, just because it's like, what are you doing? Because it's because it's because of that. You all like you almost want to chase him. Yeah, I think running back to the truck.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You almost want to just go full on fucking leopard to antelope. It's it's as if the package is inside his guts. I thought I thought about it a lot and I was able to to pinpoint the the the internal core thought that makes people so angry. And it's it's holding the slip and the and you hold the slip and you look at it and you imagine the delivery driver and you go, you're a liar. You're a liar. Yeah, this didn't happen. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:43 You are lying and I'm not lying, but you're lying. So fuck you. Why? Just like what is did you just forget it? Did you load it up? And no, there's a real reason why that occurs. The guys who do those deliveries don't have enough hours in the day to do the deliveries. They just literally don't have enough time. But some of those guys take that to a slightly larger extreme than others.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Because ideally, if you don't have enough time, don't even bother driving to the fucking spot. Just make the deliveries you can fucking make and make them. Except then the corporate goes, well, you know, you didn't. You only hit an X amount of your daily quota, but it's it's fucked. You know, and I was just like, I feel like like death stranding is making me warm up to the the delivery game a little bit. Yeah, but that's noble delivery.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And I saw there was a nice little video of somebody who put out a bag of like treats that said like, here's some snacks for dare. UPS, Amazon or whoever, delivery people. Please enjoy your end and thanks for doing all your hard work. And the person comes over and he's like, it's like, oh, this is nice. And then picks out a couple and then looks back and is like, oh, and then takes a few more and then walks away. And then, like, because there's a camera set up and just while he's while
Starting point is 01:05:04 he's walking away with a handful of treats, just starts doing a little soft sea walk, just starts grip walking a little bit on the way back to the truck. And you're like, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I would say some grip walking. I would expect that the flood of those videos a few weeks ago were in direct response to the video that I'm talking about. Perhaps, perhaps. Did you notice that all of a sudden there were all these wholesome
Starting point is 01:05:31 delivery man videos out of nowhere? We're there. We're there. Totally. We're I did not. I did not. We were. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You can't be cynical enough anymore. It sucks. It sucks. Yeah. Did you see something nice happen? I bet somebody did it for some bullshit reason. Maybe like my favorite. My I mean, the last my absolute favorite is
Starting point is 01:06:01 when a grocery store asks you, hey, would you like to donate money to the UNICEF or whatever, you know, that shit or the the the kids with no heads or whatever the fuck it is. Sure. You know why that is? That's so that the the company like IGA or SOBIES or whatever can take that money and donate it on behalf of charity themselves and get the tax break.
Starting point is 01:06:26 OK, so you're not paying for the kids. So there's always you're paying for your grocery stores tax break to break. Yeah. OK. OK. Always a sinister reason. Always. But next, you're going to tell me that all those Canadian tire monies that you put into the box at the end of Canadian tire, they're burned.
Starting point is 01:06:44 They're just in front of the homeless. They just they just get recycled back into the fucking into the. Yeah, I think with that shit. Well, it's Canadian tire money is like laughably worthless. It's laughably worthless. But you just assume that it's like, oh, well, don't they convert this into some of their own money? And now they convert it into fuel for burning.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Fuck. Well, anyway, I don't know. I think the relevant news at the time was that fucked story of the the the dude who got in the middle of the crossfire of this crazy shootout that UPS guy that got. Oh, yeah. So you're like, I thought it might have had to do could have had to do with that as well, that because that was.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Don't shoot our delivery people for nothing. Yeah, especially in a hostage situation. But the the I thought of that hostage shaker needed a coke. Or was. Yeah. Yeah. Do you look stressed, parched even? Would you like a dollar coke? It's only a dollar. He's suggesting that that he put a tag on the door.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I'm suggesting that high stakes environments are a good place to sell refreshments because people there are stressed and probably want something to drink. Bro exam period. Light it up. Light it up. Everybody's taking a fucking drink in exam period. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Damn, I didn't know anyone personally, but I had friends tell me that they had buddies who had prescribed Adderall from their doctor. Come on. That was real, right? Who would then go? Hey, you want to get good on your exam and sell that shit for crazy so that that's University College level 100 percent guaranteed. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:08:43 But high school level. No, not high school. Oh, OK. OK, OK. I was about to say what the fuck because you said exam period. OK, OK. For some reason, my brain, when you say exams, makes me say university. Can we give a shout out to the ultimate school entrepreneur
Starting point is 01:09:03 in the government? No, in the in. Sorry. In all of Montreal history, yeah, there is one name that everyone who has ever went to school here will be familiar with. What's that? The copy doctor. And I don't know if they're still around, but at the time. I'm pretty sure she was in business for a while.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And that was the hey. Your university's got textbooks. Yeah. Yeah. How much are those textbooks? A lot. Yeah. 10 hundred and twenty dollars. Come see me. I got photocopies. Yeah. OK. Meet on this park bench over here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Literally. Yeah. Here's your pay stack of papers. Mm hmm. Couple bucks. So I didn't give me a couple of bucks. I didn't deal with the copy doctor. Copy doctor was legit as fuck and literally everyone that I knew and then everyone that my punch bomb knew and like the network was vast. Yeah, when I didn't do the copy doctor route, I just had it most of the time.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I had that group of friends like that. Fuggins was part of like that whole gang and we were all in the same class as like 10, 12 people. Oh, so it was like, OK, well, Jessica, get down there and you do the economics one. Yeah. Hey, Dan, you want to do the fucking math one? Yeah. Hey, I'll go get the history one. And everybody does the the fucking afternoon of bullshit that it is to scan these fucking things in.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah. Some people already had figured out the PDF situation. Yeah. And we're doing it that way. But that doesn't work when you're in a situation where you want it physically on you to help with your study. So my favorite part was that was that the teachers like, well, you need the CD because there's lesson plans in the CD. Yeah. And people go, that's fine. That's fine. This year's specific copy of the CD.
Starting point is 01:10:58 You know what? That's fine. I think I'll manage. And they fucking and then the bookstore downstairs is like, oh, sell us your old textbooks back. We'll we'll whatever give you whatever you shit. What a garbage rate on them. Yeah. And then we'll take them, relaminate them and put them back on the shelf.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah. Cool. What a great racket. Textbooks in school. Oh, man. Everyone makes banks. Everybody made money. Yeah. Yeah. I made money off textbooks. It was it was like it is the ultimate wedding of Beaks. The only people not making money off of textbooks in school
Starting point is 01:11:31 or the people too stupid to make money off of textbooks in school. Yeah, you know, you'd honestly think a mafia got would get involved on the textbook racket. They might have been hundreds. You don't even know that they hundreds of dollars. Just milking students every single year. Everyone gets their cut. School gets their cut.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Bookstore gets their cut. Student author, the company that does the bullshit. Everything. Everyone gets their only person that didn't get their cut is the student in debt who was like, oh, man, I need to buy all these textbooks. Time to ruin my life. Or you go see dot copy. Now see dot copy. And she hooks you up.
Starting point is 01:12:07 That is a hero. Yes. And a true noble saving democratizing education. In an education system that should already be democratized. Or just like addressing the clear problem that is fuck you. How about this? I pay these pieces of paper. Hey, income tax is a high and sales tax is like 15 fucking percent.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Why is it so high? Holy shit. Well, because this subsidizes your higher education. Every single part of higher education, except for the thousand dollars of books you have to buy over some. Yeah. Which dwarfs the cost of everything else that you're doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And no, in my case, it was the the like six foot long receipt from Omer de Serre and the other UCAMR. Oh fuck. Yeah. You're in a fucking art program. I bought an airbrush, dude, with a compressor and tools to switch out different thicknesses. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:13:09 On the airbrush. That's not required for that class. Totally is. So stupid. That's such overkill. Like buy a fucking airbrush and air compressor as one of the tools you will be needing. You know, you don't know how much a fucking brush costs until
Starting point is 01:13:27 you see the markup on them. I sure don't. It's wild, bro. Yeah. Anyway, I remember I got somebody one of them posing like Robaxa set dolls. Yeah. For like, for like the animated animation stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I'm like, oh, I'm a secret Santa. I don't want to get this girl. Okay, I'll get her this thing. And I was like $22. It's made out of plywood, man. Like what the fuck. 22. That's a steel.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Oh, is it? That is a steel. Jesus. Yeah. Anyway, everything's a scam. Every scams a thing. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Hey, what's your favorite hustle ever that you've ever heard? Because the one there's one that like jumps into my fucking brain so hard. There is. Dude, there is a lot of them. I mean, I don't have it on there. I don't have. All right, I'll give you mine and maybe you'll something old
Starting point is 01:14:23 pop in your brain. My favorite scam that I ever heard. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have it on your brain. My favorite scam that I ever heard. Because it's scammed Disney and fuck Disney.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Was the handicap access scam at Disney World. You ever hear about this racket? Don't think so. Fucking simplest shit. Do you have a visible disability? I.E. amputation, decreased movement, wheelchair, cane, whatever, right? Something that you can see from far away.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah. You know what you can do? You have the fucking entrance to Disney World. And when people come in with their families, go, hey, you pay me a couple hundred bucks. I'm your new aunt. We skip every line in Disney World. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Because Disney World has a fucking, has a fucking policy about anybody with impaired movement or disability right to the fucking front of the line. Because why would you make somebody with a disability stand in the back of the line? That's terrible. That's pretty strong. It's such a good hustle.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Yeah. You see the problem is. Who loses? Yeah. That's the thing. In most hustles, there is a clear loser. Yeah. Where you're like, no, you don't want to have that.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah. It's hard to think of the hustle where you're like, oh, no, this is win, win, win, win, win all around. That's pretty good. A copy doctor is pretty good. Yeah. I have favorite hustle result, I suppose. And that is where a certain transformer fanatic was possibly
Starting point is 01:16:05 involved in the swapping price stickers on toys. That's a bad racket. Where you would go to the toy aisle and take some little thing like dumb ball or like child's Tonka toy and put it on expensive Optimus Prime. A gigantic Primus figure of some kind and try to roll out there and have the person who's paid minimum wage just go beat. Hey, as somebody who was a guy who was paid minimum wage
Starting point is 01:16:36 and who was occasionally tasked with checking those stickers, guess what? Some people don't give a fuck. Some people love giving a fuck about that shit. Oh, yeah. Love it. Oh, yeah. And I loved catching people for that shit.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Gave me a thrill in my day. And the stickering the stickering hustle that continued amongst that community until eventually an acquaintance was attempting to buy a toy legitimately and then was pulled into a room and asked a couple questions about the toy. And then asked if they identified anybody in this book of faces which featured some fanatics and fans of certain franchises. Then we might add on this.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Then we probably know. So here's the thing. You're fucking you got a mugshot for Transformers, bro. I have known a lot of people who have tried a lot of hustles and there is a wide, wide difference between a hustle and a scam. A hustle might be a little sneaky, but it's all good. A scam, somebody, someone along the way is getting ripped off.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Now, if you pull a hustle, you'll probably be fine unless people get mad at you for the hustle like, you know, old school pool hustling, for example, as a really good example, right? You pull a scam. Oh, and there's every breakout. There's the word legal involved in your scam. Yep. To my knowledge, I don't know anyone who didn't eventually get caught.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah. Ever. At a certain point, that's just it's advanced theft. Yeah. It's not quite a scam as much as it is. Like if your thing is go to the Walmart Returns line with a receipt for a product that you did not purchase and get the cash back on it. Now, at best, you'll get caught in the way where they say,
Starting point is 01:18:38 get the fuck out of here. Yeah. At worst, they'll say, hold on one second. And if you're running a scam like that and you have a nice manager tell you, can you hold on one second? We just need to check something. It's probably in your best interest to haul ass. I've heard of the scumbag one of like going into going to whatever
Starting point is 01:18:59 store and like, like start consuming a product off the shelf and then come to the cash with it. And then if they ask about it, then you pay for it. But if they don't, then hey, I was there. I'll tell you right now. Of course. That barely works. Of course.
Starting point is 01:19:17 That very rarely works. I remember like I had, I came from one store where I had something in my pocket and then like was just buying something else. And then the person, the cash person said, hey, I'm sorry. It's just my job. I have to ask what that is. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And I was like, oh yeah, I know it's my thing here. Here's the receipt whenever it's fine. But like knowing that they have to ask. Yeah. Like unless the person is not giving a fuck and they're like, I'm about to check out. People work in retail, like scanning a million. Trying to option select the line over shit.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Like guess what? Those people are bored. And if they see you eating something, they can tell by like the side view of the wrapper that like we sell that here. Sure. Sure. In fact, only we sell that here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Right. Yeah. It's like, and also the people in the aisles. Hey, here's a shocker guys. When you're in a grocery store or a Walmart or Toys R Us, there's one person in that store that is there to watch you steal something. Always.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Always. There's somebody with five to 10 items in their cart and they're very interested in the back of the box of some pasta or some shit. Yeah. And they're taking their time. They're taking like 15 minutes per aisle because if they went back and forth up and down, up and down, up and down, you'd recognize them. And they rotate out per store and it's a different guy every day.
Starting point is 01:20:46 That's how 99% of shoplifters get caught is that there is someone standing right next to them as they take it off the shelf and put it in their, in their coat. Yeah. I can't, I can't think of how there's a person in our chat goes, I was that guy. Yeah. That's a good job, by the way.
Starting point is 01:21:08 That pays well. The secret chopper? Yeah. With one downside. You're by far the most likely person in the store to get stabbed. Right. By far. By like a thousand times.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Your front lines. You're on the front line. Because you're the person who stops a criminal at the, at the front that goes, don't know. No, no, bad, bad crime. No. There's a question. You weren't around when the 10 cent bag charge started, right?
Starting point is 01:21:33 It was. That was the worst time I ever worked. Because now you got the self-serve checkouts. Yeah. And it's like, hey, how many bags did you use? I'm like, fuck you. That's how many. So it used to be a zero cent bag charge and then it became a five cent bag charge.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Everyone over the age of 40 was going to tell you cashier or grocery bagger, this is outrageous. And you're like, dude, what, what do you, what, what, what can you do? Do you want one or not? Yeah. Yeah. What do you, what do you want me to, you want me to pay for me to pay for your fucking, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Yeah. The fun part was watching the people who tried to pick up their groceries that they clearly intended to bag in their arms and try and walk out with it and then come back and like angrily throw down a nickel. And it's like, what is this even as a function of your hourly salary, a nickel, right? Say you're working minimum wage. What is that? Like 20 seconds top five seconds of labor.
Starting point is 01:22:46 It took you longer to walk out of the store. Fucking chill, bro. It's a plastic bag. Also, you can keep them. They're good for the little trash cans. They're good for picking up dog shit. There are lots of things you can do with the plastic bag you keep at home. You could even bring them back the next time.
Starting point is 01:23:05 You know that? Well, see some stores would have the like the durable bag that'd be like, hey, just buy one of these, but then who the fuck would walk with it? Some people do, but a lot of people wouldn't. Everybody over the age of 40. And then you end up buying them again and you're like, you have a bunch of these durable plastic bags at home or durable cloth bags or hemp bags at home that you just never bring back. Those bags are pretty.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I like the blue one. I like the black and green one. It was nice. It was nice. Last thing, as I remember, there was a video, I guess I saw of like it was more of an alert to the fact that there was a hustle. Yeah. And this was just like straight up fast talking and it works best in America where like a lot
Starting point is 01:23:44 of the where all the currencies bills, right? But it basically was like someone walking in and going, hey, you got a story about that. Yeah. It was in a while. And then you come going in and going, hey, can I get? Can I get changed for 20? Can I get changed for 20? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:00 You know the deal, right? Can I get changed for the 20? And it's like, actually, wait, can you give me ones and a 10? Oh shit. I actually don't have a 20. I actually have 10. Can you give me two fives back? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:10 And then you take and then you're holding the money they handed you. Yeah. And then they and it's a script and it's a rigmarole. And you walk out there, you walk, you walk away with $30 and you handed them $20. And like anybody that is just like, oh, wait, the fast math. Yeah. You just lose track of it. And you're like, you switch gears.
Starting point is 01:24:29 So the cashiers are trained in such a way that like they're like, I forget. There's a part of it where it's like cashier training can be exploited. So here's the part that fails. Now this is my personal experience. That thing has at least a 65% failure rate. And the reason why is because if anybody came up. So here's the hustle, right? Hey man, can I get changed for a 20?
Starting point is 01:24:52 No. That's the end of the hustle. You know why? Because I don't have enough tunies. I don't have enough fives. Yeah. I don't have enough 10s. I need them.
Starting point is 01:25:04 I need to finish. I'm finishing two hours. I need these. I don't want to open up another pack. Totally. Totally. That will only work on people at like nine in the morning when their cash is still filled with 10s and fives and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Yeah. Also, we don't have singles. Which means that it'll break immediately because you can't. The coins are going to activate it. It activates a different thing. When you look at two tunies in a loonie, you're like, oh yeah, it's a five. It's a different counter, you know? But yeah, I saw a video about that and then the guy comes back and goes, hey, actually.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I had a really bizarre situation when we're in Magfest where I kept getting American change back and I'm like, I don't know what to do with this. It's like, I walked out of Magfest with like, I don't know, $2.30 in quarters and dimes, American quarters and dimes, like, the fuck am I supposed to do with this? And that's the problem. I can't even turn it into like a tunie. That's the problem with Japan. Oh yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:26:06 You need those coins. You do. They're real money. They are real money used for real things. That is $5 on that coin. Yeah. You're walking around sloshing a bag, you know? And I mean, like, it would be fine if you could still get the fucking, you know, like
Starting point is 01:26:26 the 10,000, the big mon, you know, like that thing. That would be cool to fucking pull some of those out. It's a coin. Yeah, like ridiculous old school shampoo fucking money, you know? But yeah, no, you're walking around with coins and you need them, which means you have to sit there and count them at the cash. Fortunately, everyone who tends to work cash in Japan appears at the very least to be extremely patient because they're aware and...
Starting point is 01:26:51 Because they're being crushed by the expectations of their conservative society. They're also aware of the fact that you need to count up these fucking coins and they have a calculator right there. And you got a little, you got a little... I love this thing, the little fucking change box. Oh, you put the money box? Money is dirty. I like that thing.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Money is dirty? The filth is contained in the box. It is not transferred from me to you. I like that thing. By putting the money down here, this little plastic thing sucks all the gross out and then you get a fresh bill. Yeah. No shit piss and come on that.
Starting point is 01:27:23 No, no cocaine. Definitely no cocaine on the Japanese Yed. Yeah. No cocaine on that. Hell no. Fuck outta here. You would do that. You crazy?
Starting point is 01:27:34 No way. What? What is it? You mean is that short for Coca... Is that long for Coca-Cola? Technically yes. But whatever. Get outta here, Pierre.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Get outta here. You can play a criminal on the video game, but no criminal. Video games. Yeah. I saw a comment last week that cracked me up, which was like when we were talking about eating people's butts and not like sexually. I mean like chewing into their butt meat for sustenance. The bad way.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Yeah. Somebody said, ostensibly, this is a video game podcast. Yeah. Stensibly. I also saw a really fun one was like, oh, I can't thank God for these timestamps. I fucking can't handle another fucking hour of them talking about their shit come piss monster cannibal shit another month. God damn, a fucking god damn.
Starting point is 01:28:25 And I'm like, mm-hmm. It's only going to get worse from here, brother. We finally started talking about ass eating and we actually met cannibalism. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to this podcast. Yeah. By the way, my name is Pat.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Hi, I'm Wally. You ever have that moment where you're like four hours into the stupidest discussion ever and you're like, I don't think we've said our names once? Perhaps not. Yeah. It is what it is. It is what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah. Did you play video games? I did play video games a little bit. I actually had a fucking raucous week. Raucous? Is that what I want? But I had a lot of stupid shit happen that is a value to this podcast because two of them are feline based.
Starting point is 01:29:13 But before that, yeah, I can see it on your face. Before that, I did play a video game. What? Oh, it'll be fun to talk about the felines. I'll tell you what. I'll talk about cats. Yeah. But what about cats?
Starting point is 01:29:26 Oh. Oh, that's where this is going. All right. So number one, I did play a video game. I played Iceborne on its release. Yeah. Iceborne on its release on PC is fucked up. So I heard.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Man. Yeah. It is so fucked up. Yeah. It was so fucked up that it overloaded my backup battery for my PC and turned half of my living room off. Wait, you had a surge from the game? Well, I use, you know, now that I'm 24 hour stream or whatever, I have a surge protectors.
Starting point is 01:30:01 The double is battery backups. So if I lose power for one second, the battery backup kicks on and nothing turns off. So that, you know, we get brownouts in the city. They last like five. There was a hail storm a couple of days ago that was flickering my shit. Right. So I'm playing Iceborne and Iceborne is hitting my CPU and my GPU so hard that it pulled the more than 600 Watts out of the battery surge protector and it's rated for 510 Watts.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Okay. So it would go fuck and turn everything off as like a circuit breaker. Never, literally never happened before ever. Right. I had a buddy of mine tell me that when he starts up Iceborne, his house lights dim. What? Because you're running an 810, 950 power supply PC and Iceborne is kicking on so hard that it is hitting like 900 Watts in a second.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Is this a known issue? This is absolutely a known issue. And here's why. So there's ironically enough two reasons why this is happening. The one is the one people figured out right away. The review build of Iceborne, which I played and had great performance, did not have anti cheat on it. Why would it?
Starting point is 01:31:22 It's a review build for reviewers. Okay. The bill they released did have anti cheat on it. Yes. However, not only did it have Monster Hunter World's anti cheat, it also had Iceborne's anti cheat, which would run simultaneously on each other and would scan every file in the folder every second during operation. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:47 So there's 40% of your CPU. I have an i7. Yeah. It's a good one. Yeah. In addition, there's a bug or some shit or that level of activity triggers Windows Defender to think it's some Trojan fog attack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And so now Windows Defender is scanning everything in the Monster Hunter folder every second. So I have an i7 70 700. I hit 95% CPU utilization on like the main menu. I have friends that picked it up or even upgraded their PCs that are like that played Monster Hunter World before Iceborne comes out. They're like, I can't play it now. The game's dropping below like 15 frames. It's busted.
Starting point is 01:32:31 So it's pretty clear that the anti cheat is default. That it's slightly stupider than that. That is the result of many, many of the performance issues and it is causing CPU problems and memory leaks. But on top of that, the Monster Hunter World Iceborne modding community has dug a little deeper and found out that there is a function in the games code that has not been adequately turned off. And that function is to ping the home server a thousand times a second for verification
Starting point is 01:33:04 of data or some shit like that, which is weird because that would only be present on a debug build, which means that the version that they released as the final build is actually a debug build, which is why it has all of these fucked up issues in. We were not given a proper release candidate. The build of Iceborne that is on PC right now for all intents and purposes from everything that people digging around in it can find is not the actual proper release candidate. So when they say, hey, we're going to get a patch out to you in the next couple of days, which they said yesterday, I believe them because I believe they're going to go through
Starting point is 01:33:45 version control and find out, oops, they pushed the wrong, they pushed the wrong one out and they'll likely disable Monster Hunter World's anti cheat because Iceborne's anti cheat is on, which will drop it further. They'll probably be a performance loss overworld in general, but it won't be the 1000% performance loss that people are seeing. Okay. Um, I spoke to a developer friend of mine who told me that people have been fired from his place of employment for pushing out the wrong version.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Literally that's what I'm trying to get at because I'm like, I'm trying to wrap my head around that, right? And it's like, okay, step one is your pre mastering person is literally hired to control versions and make sure things like this don't happen. But oftentimes there will be a situation where the person in charge of PC stuff is an entirely different department, company, person, individual, they're not handling that they're handling console and everything. And then this PC stuff is just a, not an afterthought as much as a, you guys go figure this out.
Starting point is 01:34:47 So they don't do the same versioning slash they don't have the same checks in place. And they just upload the wrong folder to a thing. Yep. But usually the name of the, the, the build, like the full name of the SKU would include those errors. I don't know, man. So someone with eyeballs would look and know that's not the right one. So it's, it's this weird thing where I did a stream a couple of weeks before I spawned
Starting point is 01:35:13 on PC came out and went, yeah, the performance is a little better. It looks really good. These options, these graphical options work really well. And then the day that the game came out, I pulled off the review bill because the review bill can all play with other people to review build to the main build and my performance tanked. I'm like, what the fuck is this? Unless the RC had a fix that broke other things, maybe, and then they went, fuck that, just
Starting point is 01:35:40 roll it back. And then they're like, okay, rolling it back means just going back to the previous version, which was this. So they just go, this is now our new RC. I haven't even gotten to that. Could be that. I haven't even gotten to the best part. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Well, how much time did you spend getting to the end of Monster Hunter World ballpark it? Oh God. The broad estimate doesn't matter. 20, 30, 20, I don't know. If you played a lot of Monster Hunter World when it came out to the end game stuff, you probably hit like 80, maybe a hundred, maybe 150, right? Okay. Well, if on PC you hadn't played since before last summer, you would have missed the patch
Starting point is 01:36:19 that updated the save file format to a slightly different save file format. Oh, therefore, when you load up Iceborne, it'll go incompatible. No save games detected. And you go, huh? And if you click next on that screen, it will create a new blank save data. And then when you back out of the game, it will upload that save data to the cloud and kill your old save data. And then the cloud save will download back onto your computer and overwrite the original
Starting point is 01:36:51 save and that shit will be gone. And there is currently no fix for that. So if you are interested in Monster Hunter World Iceborne, turn that game on and it says no save data detected, you alt F for that motherfucker right then. Yeah. I, they took five extra months specifically so that the PC version could catch up in terms of features and parody and the, hey, man, it'll be a lot better this time. The Monster Hunter World development team is not good on the PC.
Starting point is 01:37:24 This conversation will never end. The PC version problem conversation that has been most of my adult life is not going away. So here's the thing. It kind of will eventually, but it's up to the upper echelon of Capcom. Are you saying when the next generation of consoles become PCs? No. The thing is Capcom was actually very blunt about this. The reason why the Monster Hunter World PC stuff was always so delayed is because all
Starting point is 01:37:54 their PC geniuses, all the people who fucking know how to develop a PC game, we're working on Resident Evil 2 Remake and Devil May Cry 5. Those ports are fucking sick. They're fantastic. But I thought Monster Hunter and its team were like the highest priority Capcom thing on consoles. Sure. Monster Hunter has no history on PC.
Starting point is 01:38:18 The other franchises absolutely do. Right. And those are parts of those teams, like the Resident Evil team, their tech guys, a lot of those people know how to make PC build. Like they don't, it's not, they're not like learning how to do it like the world people are. But at some point Capcom is going to take this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy from DMC and Resident Evil when their PC versions are done or not currently being
Starting point is 01:38:42 worked on and go here, here, here, here, here, and then they'll teach that team how to fucking do it. So your options are those people or you get a fucking root kit on your, on your installation. And there's no in between. It's fucked up. Got it. It's fucked up. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:39:00 It's so stupid. Disaster. I mean, it's really strong enough that like I can kind of ignore a lot of these problems. Yeah. And so I'm playing it and I'm enjoying it, but I'm like, I am not blind to the fact that tons of people either lost their progress or, you know, just have the version fucked up. Also, the anti cheat doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:39:17 It's already been bypassed. Of course. People are already got the transmog mod back in. People already have importable save files to help the people that fucking lost their save file, et cetera. Right. Doesn't work. Just take it out.
Starting point is 01:39:34 It was bypassed within like six hours. And it's really fucked because now if you, if you undo the anti cheat, which is explicitly against the rules, you gain like a 40% performance boost. Like it's crazy. It's like getting a new video card. So what's like, like who's running a successful anti cheat solution that no one ever online games like league and fortnight, they're running mostly successful because they have entire buildings dedicated to it.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Yeah. And those guys are working every day real hard. Okay. Right. And they ban them these massive waves and they have all this technology to detect that shit. You know, it's not perfect, but it's something monster hunter who even cares. So what?
Starting point is 01:40:20 All right. There were cheaters on the 3ds version. You'd go into a room and a guy would shoot a monster once it would die and then you would carve it and you're like, okay. Right. But of course the fear is a safe corruption. You know, so fix it with the safe editor. Like, like who care?
Starting point is 01:40:42 Like it doesn't matter. It's stupid. Yeah. I, you know, like you don't want to go from soft on it, right from the worst implementation of anti cheat ever. So you like you're trying to avoid and get invaded by somebody and they stab you with a knife and you get banned. Fuck you for unbelievable, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Yeah. So let's see. So I played that video game, which while I'm having fun is a like huge disappointment. Here's the question now. Actually before you jump off of that, yeah, do you just stop and wait or you are somebody who, who got it and it's fucked up, which is most people don't stop and wait, hit him with the refund. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Do you grab the console version? No, that's not, if you, if you have all your shit on the, on the PC version, it's not like to hopping over to the console version isn't a solution. It's wait and complain because complaining works. Also refund scare publishers. They don't like it. They don't like it. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 01:41:53 I also played no man's sky after the internet historian video about the in good ending of no man's sky. So this is patched up and all this is very like 10 patch expansions or whatever. What was it called again? There's a lot. There's beyond their synthesis. There's foundation. There's they all have names.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Um, good. It's much better, much more enjoyable. It's like, uh, I don't want to say Minecraft, but Starbound or Terraria, something like that more like now. Build bases, see other people. Yeah, but are you playing it kind of thinking like, yeah, but outer wilds though, that's not fair. That's not fair at all.
Starting point is 01:42:36 No, it's not, but I'm sorry that creativity. That's the least fair ever. Like pushes your enjoyment so much further than an impressive, like visual. It's not about visual. It's about scale and there's the biggest problem no man's sky had when it came out was that there was nothing to do. Now there are many things to do and many of them are enjoyable, but do you remember what we said?
Starting point is 01:43:03 Whereas like, could you imagine the tech of no man's sky with the idea of, oh, it'd be impossible. It's a nonsensical thing that doesn't even make any sense because everything in, everything in outer wilds is good because it's designed. It's to small scale. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I figured which planet I was on, but like you could jump and hit the jet pack
Starting point is 01:43:23 and you would like crest the horizon in a way that would speed you up and make you feel very uncomfortable. The moon, it was the moon. You could jump and jet and you would clearly move farther away from the planet and thus pick up Spooky. So you had fun? You safe? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Okay. The old one is fucked up. The old one that I had from 2016, I like loaded in and I was like inside the floor of a space station. Okay. It was unusable. So it's kind of funny because I played it, that save file dated back to August of 2016 when the game came out.
Starting point is 01:43:56 I'm like, well, here's that experience that I had. Here's this one. Big improvement. Don't know if it's still like a great game, but it's pretty close to what was promised. And I very much enjoyed my time with it when I streamed it and afterwards I played some more. Did you excavate, fight, like discover life? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 01:44:21 All that. Yeah. I named the planet Estus because it had orange oceans. Okay. Looked like Tang. Did it feel like the promised video? Yes, it did. Good.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Good, good, good. There's a way more plant and animal life and variation in topography than like by a thousand times from what it was in 2016. It was good. And did you go to a space station? I did. Do you have the ability to talk to way more of the aliens now and they'll all teach you a part of their languages and just having to scour the fucking planet?
Starting point is 01:44:52 Was it actually interesting? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Very much enjoyed it. 100%. And also the materials research upgrade loop was a lot better planned out. So what was that video then?
Starting point is 01:45:03 It's by internet historian who was a big ass super good YouTuber and it's called the in goodening of No Man's Sky is 53 minutes long. One of those minutes is the credits and the Patreon stuff that he does. The first 26 minutes are here's how No Man's Sky became the biggest disaster ever. And then the second 26 minutes are same story another side and it goes into what it was like to build that game behind the scenes and what contributed to all those fucked up interviews. And then while games out, it's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:45:35 What do we do? And the answer is shut the fuck up and work on it. And it's it's a fascinating video. I would recommend anybody watch it. That being said, a lot of people already watched that video. That is a populous big hit number video view. Well, it definitely feels like the at least in terms of industry press, like we saw all the updates as they came and then there was sort of a like, yeah, they made it good now.
Starting point is 01:46:02 But then I never really heard people like player wise talking about it's really fascinating because you go to playing it, you go to the Steam page and the Steam page is all reviews mixed because mixture of old because when you hit overwhelmingly negative, I think the highest you can get all time is mixed. And then recent reviews overwhelmingly positive and you're like, really weird, weird, huh? Cool. I respect the work ethic. You know, it's weird, but not cool.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Cats. Now, do you know about Jellicle cats? Yes. Yes, I do. What about categorical cats? No, statistical cats. I know about political cats. I know about. But the fact that apparently cats that live horrible lives, that's right, all want to
Starting point is 01:47:01 die. They want to die really badly. They want to go to the heavy side layer, but only one can get reborn. All right. So here's the deal. It's late at night. The page is like, oh, my God, I want to see cats. Kevin, how are you going to see it unpatched?
Starting point is 01:47:18 You just go to the theater. OK, because the one they're playing is unpatched. Wonderful. Boy, is it unpatched. Wonderful. And the page being a fucking musical theater nerd and knows the songs from cats. Where her memories is legit. Good. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:47:35 And the performance in the show is good. You get to know, so we're off to cats. All right. So you read a tweet about cats a little while ago, read a tweet about cats. That was real. That was a dead on. So I'm going, I'm not going to I'm going to skim the contents of that. I've since got more details to the size of cats.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Yes, is. Nightmarish, inconsistent, terrifying from shot to shot to shot. Cats teleport in scenes. Everything looks like shit. So everything looks like shit. I heard that the the team, the CGI team working on this had six months. Yeah, to do it, I bet. And they were pushing this fur tech that fucking doesn't work, didn't work at all.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Yeah. And that on the red carpet, the director said, yeah, we finished it yesterday. Yeah, he did say that. And the version that critics saw prior to that red carpet screening had green screen shots in it. Yeah, it was pre pre patch because they literally had to air a version where they did not have anything but the green screen raw footage. That's right. In the cut.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Mm hmm. So. Just fucking delaying. No, you don't delay movies. It's a Christmas movie. We need it for the don't delay movies. Sonic broke new ground. So all right, let's break it down.
Starting point is 01:49:05 One, the musical cats sucks ass. There is no story to this fucking story. I'm this kind of cat. No, I'm this kind of cat. I'm magic. I'm fat. I'm grumpy fucking whatever. That's the whole movie. Yeah, but I heard that's the whole movie.
Starting point is 01:49:22 But the magic of Broadway is that they're hanging off your chair. Yeah, and they're in the they're in the crowd. So it's like the stage is part of. Yeah, that doesn't play in a fucking movie theater. Yeah, no, it's so I put a tweet out. There's like I would review cats, but I think it's better summed up by the fact that a gentleman walked into our theater that only had six people in it, which were all three of them.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Couples whose boyfriends were dragged there by their girlfriends. And this person upon cresting, you know, you come out of the little hallway and you crest on the seats. Whole theater stank of weed. Just bam, bam, I'm it's it is 1030 at night. Yeah, I'm going to see cats. I'm high as fuck. Can you blame them? No. Well, you know what else I can't blame that 15 minutes in
Starting point is 01:50:09 when the second star song started, they got up and fucking walked out and never came back. Oh, man, no, you got to be at this this late in the game. You know what you're in. So I got confirmation on this of Twitter of people who went to see it high. It is terrifying. It is anxiety and it is not good. OK, it is bad. OK, all right. On on the under the you know what, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:50:37 It wouldn't be so bad that you can see Judy Dench's obviously human hands coming out of her fur coat. Yeah. If Judy Dench did not have one of the most large golden wedding rings that I've ever seen a person. It's a solid gold band that is flat to do like a symbol. Yeah, it catches the light. Like it's so obvious.
Starting point is 01:51:06 You've got characters in the background wearing sneakers or ballet shoes or what like just unfinished top to bottom. It's the flesh peeling that I'm more concerned with. So let's talk about the flesh peeling because everyone really glosses over the idea that someone peels their flesh. It's not Marish. It's really bad. You know what's weirder? So McCavity, the character played by Idris Elba,
Starting point is 01:51:30 is a feral cat. He's a street cat. Yeah, right. He's evil. He's magic. And he's going to zap people away so that he can be the one to win the gelical ball and go up to the heavy side layer. Which is apparently death. It appears to be a metaphor for death. Well, they changed his design, which fine, right?
Starting point is 01:51:52 In the in the show, he's like black and orange with like a lot of white. And he's like scary looking, like a scary clown, I guess. In the movie, it's Idris Elba with cat ears in like a cool like a hat, got the hat and like a like a trench coat. It's got the coat, which I think is a much cooler look, except when it gets to his song at the end of the movie, he takes the hat and the coat off and Idris Elba's fur has been color corrected to be the exact same shade as his skin tone.
Starting point is 01:52:26 So he just looks like fuzzy, naked Idris Elba. It's brown. It's fucking so creepy. That sounds because it looked. None of the other characters look like this, that's because they all have. They all have like traditionally like Caucasian faces or whatever. Maybe they're painted up and they have like cat skin tone. You know, like it's like like orange or white and black or you know,
Starting point is 01:52:52 whatever for their fur, but Idris Elba is just black and furry. A brown and fur and a flesh colored fur. I'm just going to pull up a fuck. It's and it looks like Idris Elba like did himself up in fur and is like he looks naked like using the photos of the cats. Yeah, yeah, he looks naked, man. And he's doing a dance number and he is fucking. Yeah, OK, don't they all look naked to some degree?
Starting point is 01:53:22 Yeah, to some degree. But none of them are wearing like suits and hats before that or they take them off early in their shots. So I'm going to walk over to Willie and show Willie two pictures. OK. This is what Idris Elba looks like when he's got his right, right, right with the suit and the thing. Yeah, he looks like the tough guy.
Starting point is 01:53:43 He's got the big tough guy hat. This is what he looks like when he takes it off. Oh, that's fucking horrifying. That's that is fucked. It's got the sheen on it. He's got the he's got the sheen on it. The the the the sheen fur. Oh, that's bad.
Starting point is 01:54:04 So this this is a watching where like you're just like you're bored to tears because it's just songs about cats. And then you're taking so hard out of it that you're squealing with laughter. It's it's really bad. It's really bad. Also, Taylor Swift apparently costs too much money. So two characters were combined into one character that could be Taylor Swift. She does her song and then disappears from the movie.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Uh, gone. I'm hearing one for the ages might be screened for years to come. Rocky Horror Picture Show, Last Airbender. But Rocky Horror was good. Yeah, Rocky Horror is good. This is this is this is this will live on. And I will say that this movie almost actually killed me. Because in the theater production, the way that the the cat wins the
Starting point is 01:55:01 gelical ball should they get chosen and they get on to a chandelier and the chandelier is on the stage and the chandelier rises up into the rafters of the of the stage and they disappear. But it's a movie. Yeah. So there's no like so they're in a theater, you know, I guess it's a little and the cat gets on to the chandelier and it rises up up through the roof. And then it turns into it was actually a hot air balloon.
Starting point is 01:55:30 And she floats away and all the cats look at her and see her float away. And then she's drifting into the clouds, into the sun. And as she reaches the sun, the balloon and the cat just fade away like Marty McFly just fade away because the cat goes to heaven and they wanted to give you more and it is then they need it is not just like poorly shot. It is also the shittiest effect ever like the shittiest fate ever. And it comes after a sequence in which like Judy Dancer like looks at the camera to talk to the audience and the combination creates the laugh that is
Starting point is 01:56:20 all air out, no air in just the wheezing maniacal. I can't handle this stupid shit laugh. And I laughed so hard that I looked up to see the rest of the movie and the movie was dark and the movie was dark because I was blacking out. And that's when you go, OK, stop, stop laughing. Yeah, I have not breathed for two, three minutes. Yeah, got it, got it, got to calm it down, got to calm it down. And then and then it was over.
Starting point is 01:56:59 I the problem you have to go. See, I'm garbage, you know, it's astonishing. It made its way over to me. It's in the sphere of, you know, the impact sphere. But I definitely I definitely do feel that this one's different. This one hits a little different because of the amount of names attached to it. Everyone's a giant star. It's ridiculously star-studded.
Starting point is 01:57:26 The Victoria, the main cat, she I'm not familiar with her actress, but I'm to assume that she is a pro ballet dancer because they have to be to play that role and she's doing all sorts of crazy ballet shit, right? Doing the little flips and the points with the with the feats. And it's like that's a talented lady. She sings quite well. Some of the songs like the performances by the actors are great. The songs are terrible, but the people singing them are doing a really good job.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Yeah. And it's just like everybody's a name. Even and it's even doing that thing. We're like, I don't know who this is, but they're a big British star. Clearly. Clearly. Yeah. You know, everyone's why everyone's part of fucking cats. Yeah. Oh, wow, it's cats. And like, didn't this happen last time? Or like, I don't know, Les Mis got done.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Yeah. And same director. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was trying to think, right? So this was just kind of following up on that, right? And that was a big deal. Big stink. Les Mis. It's it defies belief. And again, the animation and everything that goes into the visual production
Starting point is 01:58:33 of this movie, this is on the level of astonishingly bad production as the last airbender on the level on the level. No, fuck it. It's worse. Yeah. It's the only thing I compare it to. Did you did you did you bother? I bother what? Watching the last airbender in theaters day came out. OK, OK.
Starting point is 01:58:52 It was the first thing I ever saw about Avatar. OK. And I went, well, now I got to watch this show because there's no way it's as bad as this shit. OK. Fuck. So Katz is. High recommend, high recommend, overanimated, I would say, way too much money went into its anime. It would have been a better movie if it was like filming dynamic
Starting point is 01:59:15 camera shots of people on a fucking stage, like like of the stage of the musical, you know, like you ever see there's the movie version of Phantom of the Opera and it's you fucking videotaping the stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would have been way better movie, like easy. And in fact, there used to be of Katz movie back in the 90s. That was just that they just filmed it. And that's why I got popular with the, you know, as plebs that don't go to the theater.
Starting point is 01:59:38 That's all. Right. I mean, I don't know. Like I said, like there's been adaptations that work, but I guess they had more than six months in post to figure the shit out, I guess. Just why did you put the date so close? Well, anyway. I, at the very least, like I would have that's the type of story
Starting point is 02:00:05 you hear about and you go with all the names attached. You would think that they would like see it in the screener or whatever. Sign that contract. I don't think you can bail. Not bail, but use your power and influence to, yes, to clout your way into delaying the movie. Yeah. You think all those names could clout a delay so that they could
Starting point is 02:00:31 finish the fucking thing instead of having just throwing it out there for studio like panic, because how could it possibly be worth it to become known as one of the worst movies ever? But like, but we got to hit that date, though. Like on what possible logic does it make where you're like, it doesn't. It's still worth it for this to not be delayed for it to come out now. I don't know, stupid by what metric on your calendar. Like it doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 02:01:00 There's no reason I can think of where this is a favorable result to not giving it more time. Yeah. The only thing this is more favorable than is it never coming out. But that's only in the like wasted money sense. Yeah, because then at least this has a chance to earn. It's not boys. It not.
Starting point is 02:01:20 That was an empty ass theater. The only people who were in that theater were seeing it for lulls. Which is why I'm surprised to hear that that dude walked out and never came back because there were probably no lulls to be had. He was probably having like a fucking bad trip. All right. So there's that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Cats was overdone on every extreme. Now let's talk about something that's half baked. The thunderous variety, the thunderous variety. It's funny because I sound like a genius talking about this show because it's so bad. There are two episodes out of Thundercats roar, which I keep wanting to say. Thundercats go I wanted. I literally was going to call it Thundercats go. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:06 All right. If you didn't say roar. Just so everybody getting all weird and shitty about it's Cal arts. Oh, Steven Universe Adventure fucking whatever. Doesn't even matter. Not even important, right? Here's what's important. The show for okay.
Starting point is 02:02:22 The writing is the writing feels like we have an afternoon to write this episode. Desperate, fast, like do it, right? I would say that out of two episodes they put out, I smiled once tops, right? But beyond that, the production on this screams, oh man, they didn't give these people dick to work with. Oh, really? Yeah. See, because I haven't seen any of it.
Starting point is 02:02:52 I saw the trailer for it and I assumed that it would be aiming for that. Teen Titans go OK, OK, go one hit. OK, KO, OK, KO, adventure time, et cetera. Flapjack, yeah, which is lovely. So those things are great. They're going on a super chibi kind of Cal arts art style, like very super deformed, very squat, you know, they're going for backgrounds that are completely detail lists so that they don't have to draw them.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Absolute minimum amount of key frames you could possibly get away with. The concept of even being on model is like a joke. Like every single frame is like off model to some degree, meaning that it has no consistency from shot to shot. Characters are like I'm somewhat familiar with animation principles such as squash and stretch and smear and all that. This is not being done for style. This is being done for efficiency, because it feels like they had like a week
Starting point is 02:03:58 to make this show. So we like all the stuff that like those examples that just came out there are like those are jumps of pretty good shows. Yes, right. And every show that I would have mentioned, I would say at least their animation is good. But even the stuff that like I never delved super deep into because I only saw it when I'd like visit America.
Starting point is 02:04:15 But like they had like other shows like well, OK, Gumball is great. Gumball is great. Gumball is great. I was going to say like there's stuff like Clarence. Yeah. And I forgot what the other one is that looks a bit like it and it's a kind of new Cartoon Network era type of stuff where it seems to be like still fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:34 In all those. Yeah, I never watched Clarence and went, ah, it looks like shit. That was the whole time watching this. And a friend of mine pointed out that there's one series of backgrounds that has a lot of detail put into it, and it's the base that they hang out at. And all I can think of is like, well, those were drawn first before the rest of the show had to be animated. OK.
Starting point is 02:04:58 So the the I don't want to go too much into detail. The show sucks ass. Talk to bottom. It's visually uninteresting. It animates like shit. The voice acting is really good. But the lines they were given are caught off. Do you have any connection to the old undercats at all?
Starting point is 02:05:14 No, never even seen them. Don't care at all. I think the undercats are probably dumb, but this shit is super, super dumb. On top of that, the coolest thing they had was the logo. Yeah, it's one of those cases. There was a there was a little weird hiccup in that we're in Canada. Yeah. And.
Starting point is 02:05:34 They don't want us to watch it. OK, so it's only available on the Cartoon Network app. Which doesn't exist in Canada. OK, so got a hold of it somehow. OK, watched it and was like, that's weird about the app. So I reached some some tendrils out and was like, hey. What's up with this shit? Turns out Cartoon Network has legal obligations
Starting point is 02:06:04 to play anything Warner Brothers sends them. OK, somewhere. And the show's second season was canceled before it even finished production of of that's war. Yeah. Oh, because everybody working on it has updated their profiles to working on something else. Really? Yeah. Whoa. So it appears that Cartoon Network went, this is garbage.
Starting point is 02:06:35 And are hiding it in the app. It just started airing. Yeah. OK. See, the weird part is that when Thundercats came back nine or ten years ago, I heard good shit. Yeah, that thing apparently animated really well. And so I won. I guess I didn't follow through to find out, like, why didn't they kind of
Starting point is 02:06:53 keep that going if it was a success? But maybe it was just supposedly the toy sales were bad. OK, well, that's just weird because there weren't toys. What? Because I was going to say, like, if the metric didn't increase toy sales, despite it having no specific toys, if it's because if it was one of those situations where it's like, it was super good, but it made no money, then that's that's the death now.
Starting point is 02:07:15 So from what I can tell now, I might be wrong. I mean, these are sources that I'm just personally trusting, but they seem to know what they're talking about. This is something that Warner Brothers tried to make with no money because they had a license, gave it to Cartoon Network. Cartoon Network went, this sucks ass. Dumped it on their app so that as few people can see it as possible. That's the only place to watch it right now it is.
Starting point is 02:07:39 OK. And then everybody and then it might just be like a pre-marketing thing. Maybe. And then everybody involved with it got shit canned or the project got killed and they're all working on different shit and season two of that show is not going to happen. So I think the weirdest thing is that there is a there are people who defend this because like, oh, the calard style is good. And I don't think that's the point at all. I think the fact that this show sucks, you're defending a show
Starting point is 02:08:04 that no one who worked on it defends it. And the company that ordered it made killed it. And the company that's supposed to broadcast it hides it. No one's going to bat for it. So why would you? Well, you know, it's got mum raw in it. I guess sometimes it's you're going to swing in your mess. Yeah, I've heard good things about, like I said, like the old reboot.
Starting point is 02:08:27 I've heard good things about the one Voltron came back and then she runs stuff like that. You know, so I sometimes it's just you're going to swing in the ball. I think it's hilarious that I had this moment of like, wait, can I can I not watch it? But why? If anything, though, I'm definitely like I'm curious, but I'm also continuing to be more curious about like, I'm like, fuck, I should go back and watch that 2011.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Yeah, I'm interested to see I want to see the final episode of this to see if like the animation got like sparser and sparser as the show went on. Like just less and less frames in general. She's crazy. Although the only thing I will say is I saw a list of like shows with bad endings as a metric recently on like, it was like a movie Reddit and it was kind of like here's a bunch of shows where the view like ratings and views for each
Starting point is 02:09:23 for their average season was high and then the last season dips to like lower than half. Yeah. And like they had things up there like they had. It's like it was like a top 10 list or whatever. And like, obviously, Game of Thrones and what you call it, how I met your mother home and all that shit was up there. All the expected one. And Derry Barney. All the all the expected ones were up there.
Starting point is 02:09:46 But Thundercats was up there, too. Not Thundercats. Sorry. Voltron was up there. So apparently at some point, the last season, it's just that it's just as good. Yeah. And I remember being like, oh, that's a shame. You know, but, um, yeah. Yeah. OK, it's fucked.
Starting point is 02:10:02 And the last funny story that I have to tell is, first of all, I want to apologize to everybody. I delayed the podcast this week. This one's on mine because on Monday, I had to make a court appearance. Now, before you make the connection with the fact that we just spent two hours talking about hustling people. No, I did not go because I got arrested or I'm in trouble. I just made a statement.
Starting point is 02:10:28 But when's the last time you were in court? When those fuckers broke my third strike. OK. I've never been in court. It's fucking weird. It's so weird. The lawyers wearing the robes, the old timey robes and the judge wearing the robe with the little red ribbon. It feels not real. It feels like a joke.
Starting point is 02:10:51 And granted, that's my fault for watching so much law and order and not being in touch with my Canadian heritage. But it's like. Are you motherfucker? Are you are you serious? Are you are you like really? You look like you look some of some of the some of the guys and girls. They look actually pretty hot in it. Like it's like it's a no, we're still we're still doing the goofy thing.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Yeah, we still have the law wizards. Now, I want to point out to our Americans. No, they don't wear the powdered wigs. That is not real. Maybe in England, they do. English people know, OK, whatever. But the best part was that I went down there and I spent all day down there. And they're like, oh, did you take work off for this?
Starting point is 02:11:40 I go, yeah, I totally did. And they're like, OK, well, let's write you a subpoena and then you can get a refund. No, not a refund. You can get a reimbursement from the government. Uh, you know, for your your time. And I go down there and they go, OK, sir, were you did you take the day off of work here? I'm like, yes, I did.
Starting point is 02:12:04 And I write my information and they're like, OK, here, sir. And they come out and the lady takes a stack of bills. And goes one, two, three, and then throws a tuning on and hands me $52 in cash. And I don't know why, but the fact that it was cash really weirds me out. I thought I would get a check. It feels so goofy. And also, I don't mean to sound like an asshole here, but like, wow, fifty two dollars, I bet everyone loves to take work off and come to even
Starting point is 02:12:47 when I worked at the grocery store, better than nothing, better than nothing. So I went out and I had breakfast. At a nice place. But like it's everything about that building is so fucking bizarre. And I went to the wrong building first. That was fucking embarrassing. But yeah, courts and the legal people, they are, you know what else? They all sound like aliens.
Starting point is 02:13:14 They all sound like weirdos. Everyone in that building sounds like a. Sounds like somebody from L.A. with a French accent, a government worker, like a like a government worker. Yeah. And it's like. Are you are you like you want to ask them? It's like, are you scum deep in your heart?
Starting point is 02:13:38 Lawyer person or they just they want really good benefits. I think they might be scum. I have a friend that works for the government and they you get amazing benefits. Yeah. But that was it. It was it was just fascinating to go down there and have that experience. I just want to touch the the the the the podcast delay thing a little bit because obviously like Wednesdays comes up.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Wednesdays as usual. Yes. Yeah, Wednesdays has come up based on like pushes needing to occur and stuff. But like I really, I guess I guess because it was unclear, there's just sort of a feeling of since there was a bunch of specific delays and some of them were based on like me going to like a tournament, for example. It's sort of just this indefinite feeling of like, we don't know.
Starting point is 02:14:28 This is the new thing. This is how it is now. And it's like there's a season of Sam's show tournaments that started in September. Oh, is that what's that ends in about February? Yeah. So this is a very temporary. Yeah. So let's break down exactly what happens.
Starting point is 02:14:44 Wully often gets back Monday afternoon or night from flying out on Sundays. Yeah. Or you're fucked on Monday and I have shit that I have to do on Tuesdays that I can't move. So yeah, like that's that. Now, once upon a time, there was no stream. It was just a record and so we do it whenever it doesn't matter. You just you make it happen whenever. But now, of course, that's not the case.
Starting point is 02:15:09 But all that to say that it's like, you know, there's a couple of other things I do want to go to like like, you know, they just announced a combo breaker and some other stuff. But for the most part on the regular, like it still is like just a it's a temp situation and not on top of that. Like Mondays is the days that it works for my schedule. Yeah. Kicking into Wednesdays overlaps with other things and obligations I have in my life.
Starting point is 02:15:35 That it's not optimal. It's not optimal. So even though it's like these delays kind of happen from time to time and like you don't notice when it's not delayed. Like when a Monday comes in and we just have a normal episode, you're not going to notice because of course not. Because that only happens like twice a month. It's when the changes happen, right?
Starting point is 02:15:52 And so so when that sort of thing is happening, but you don't really know what the timeline is on it, like, you might just feel like it's forever. And it's like, why not change it permanently to that day? And it's like, well, because then we'll fuck that day up, too. But ultimately, it's also to say that like the whole like for me, at least, I'm not going to be traveling this way forever. I am participating in a current season of a thing that is close to ending. And I'm looking to change my Tuesday thing as soon as I can, but it takes forever.
Starting point is 02:16:23 But ultimately, so then we could do it on Tuesdays. But you know, and like there are things where it's like, yeah, but sometimes there's news announcements that change and move in different days. We've gotten really lucky with that, that every time it gets delayed like this, something happens on Tuesday. But like there was a perception that it's like out of a weird sense of tradition. And it was like, no, this is really just the day that works in an extremely busy week. Also, I don't know if you guys know this.
Starting point is 02:16:47 I'm going to tell everybody at home a secret. Everybody ready for the secret? We're fuck ups. Sure. You know, this isn't like a real job, right? This is like a fake thing we tricked everybody into. Yeah, kind of. But, you know.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Stas, still I still make it. Yeah, yeah, we still do it. I still upload an MP3, you know, I want to hear some nightmare shit that I just just popped in my head talking to my talking to my fucking sister. She's talking to you. I got I got the nephew in school. Oh, hold on. What the kids want to be now?
Starting point is 02:17:28 What? Oh, they want to be YouTubers and podcasters. That comes up all the time. Holy shit. No, no, I know. Yeah, we get that. That does come up a lot. I want to be like Ninja. Oh, my God. But all this to say that like so like when I go to Frosty
Starting point is 02:17:39 Faustings this weekend and doing some commentary for Samurai Showdown, I'm going to be flying back on Monday. Can you get that? Can you get the video of you marking out to Fausts reveal from the crowd? I saw the teaser. No, but I mean, you know, the the full and then they'll show off Zappa. Yeah, I think I don't think I'll have that. But OK, but that's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 02:18:01 And then there's another one happening in two weeks time that's like the final one for the season. And then after that, you know, assuming that I guess, probably not making it to the fucking grand finals in Japan. So don't. Hey, come on. But all that to say that, like, in theory, in theory, like it should then return to being a normal thing. You know, so you could become a big pro.
Starting point is 02:18:23 I think information helps people understand the situation a little bit better. And I'm hoping I had a really similar thing clarifies that. I change my schedule constantly. Everybody hates my stream schedule because I change it all the time. Yeah. And every single almost every day that I change it, I get a bunch of smart Alex. And I was like, I feel like it. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:18:42 You just show up and watch no matter what I do. Because I'm you just love me so much. Well, I didn't announce a schedule this week, for example, because this podcast is the end of the schedule. No, yes, it is because I'm leaving tomorrow. But I did have a week of looking at stuff. Yeah. And you hold that. I have to pee. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:19:06 Or. Yeah. Well, actually, don't hold it. I guess talk about. OK, no, no, no, no, no, no, do you think? Do you think? But I got it. It's everywhere. No, it's not everywhere. It's not everywhere. But shut up.
Starting point is 02:19:19 Yeah. So anyway, that's that's that's more or less the deal in terms of like scheduling and why that kind of goes on the way it does. Of course, as usual, you know, if if you are hearing this and you are not sure where to get updates and like what is happening and so on and so forth, the best place to get any updates is to go to my Twitter to go to Willy Wolves on Twitter. And you can check my tweets because I will usually either. I'll usually pin a schedule.
Starting point is 02:19:52 But I'll often, if there's anything abnormal happening about the podcast, we'll have a tweet about it in my most recent ones, right? So that's the way you can find out. It's like, oh, is there like when? So I know some folks like show up on the Twitch and are like, is anything happening today? Or some people are kind of wondering, is there looking at their RSS feeds and stuff? Yeah, I will. I will.
Starting point is 02:20:13 If it's if I don't say anything, then it's going to be Monday at 1 p.m. And is going to be the stream. And then Tuesdays at noon is the MP3 release officially. And otherwise, if you if I if there is anything different, then I'll let you know, I'll let you know. So, yeah, anyway, I think for as far as like the as far as the the traveling thing goes to,
Starting point is 02:20:44 they just announced Combo Breaker, which looks I've always heard amazing things about it. So I kind of want to go see what the deal is because I'm being told like you are an idiot that is missing out on so much. If you don't go to that, it's the it's it's evil outside it's evil outside of evil. So I'll probably go and check that out a little later on. And then there might be a couple other obligations.
Starting point is 02:21:08 But for the most part, I expect things to be a little bit more normal as of about two weeks or so from now. Unless you win all your matches. No, that has nothing to do with Combo Breaker. I tried. You tried. I was peeing. OK. So, yeah, I did have a week where I checked some stuff out.
Starting point is 02:21:37 I'll take the baton if that's all right. Well, here's the baton. Oh, by the way, before I throw that, toss me the baton back. There you go. Oh, here it is. If you want to check out me streaming a Resident Evil games and it's a lot of Resident Evil because Resident Evil 3 is coming up. It's going to be CVX this week.
Starting point is 02:21:54 But I'm going to be doing those at three PM this week over Twitch. That's Eastern over Twitch.TV. Slash, Angriest Pat, because I need to. I was talking to Susie about this and she said she was streaming CVX and she had to stop because she was falling asleep. So I'm going to I'm going to have to be streaming CVX in the middle of the day for, you know, the ability to stay awake that that games. It's really long and it's just not as good as any of the games surrounding it.
Starting point is 02:22:27 But people want to see it. So they'll see it. So I'll see you guys tomorrow at three PM Eastern over at Twitch.TV. Slash, Angriest Pat. OK, baton back. OK, so I did a couple of things, checked out some stuff and what not this week. But the off the bat, I'll say what I did do with the the schedule yesterday played some more Death Stranding.
Starting point is 02:22:52 I'm really enjoying my downtime driving and tasks. Isn't that weird? I'm enjoying it a lot. It's becoming my activity of preference. Like, like I've rebuilt the roads and I'm now in the mountains and I'm and I'm ziplining the mountains again. And like, yeah, even like even though I can't progress until the next like there's plenty of LP session, there's plenty to do.
Starting point is 02:23:18 And I legit enjoy it while kicking a podcast on. Yeah, isn't it just nice and relaxing? Very much. And you stand on top of a mountain and you look at the network that you made and you're like, yeah, yeah, we're getting there. You know, and most like you always have to have a low level of like of attention for what you're doing. Yeah, like you can't just drive mindlessly. You'll die. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:40 This is not the the car from FF 15. Like you're going to fly off the side of the road and die if you don't cross that mountain gap properly, you will fall and die. You know, but while you're doing it, while you're out and about, you can always make a more efficient zipline placement. Yeah, you can always erase a bad structure that the network put in your way. There's always something that you can tighten up on your map.
Starting point is 02:24:07 Tighten it up a little. Yeah. And that has been a satisfying thing to do in the meantime while waiting to move forward in the talk to Hartman. The progress. Yeah. So I'm enjoying that. But yesterday, I decided to take a another foray into a world I've always been fascinated by, but one that I've never been able to penetrate. Eyebrows are raised out here.
Starting point is 02:24:33 I cracked open the old car ball. Game, the old car ball sport. Oh, no, the soccer, but with cars, the rocket league, the footy. But I don't I dare not call what we did. Oh, Rocket League. Yeah, that's what we played was car ball. That game has a curve, a learning curve. So, you know, when you start the thing and you don't even know
Starting point is 02:25:01 what your bearings are, much less how to get them. I do know that because I had a very similar experience when I think William and I did a Rocket League video on the channel and it is abominable. It is crazy how difficult it feels when you're playing, especially with people that know what they're doing. It's been out for a bit. Yeah, it's crazy how the sky because it's physics based game.
Starting point is 02:25:25 So the sky is the limit. And with your sense of control, timing and direction and momentum, you can hit the ball in any direction from any angle at any point. You see videos of people playing, you're like, cool. And then you play it and you're like, fuck. And it's a ton of fun while having zero ability to affect the game whatsoever. And while you are actually affecting the game in a way. Yeah, you're reducing your team's ability to do anything.
Starting point is 02:25:51 So I felt like when I first played soccer back in the day as a kid that like, you know, and running around as a little chubby kid trying to chase the ball. I'm going to kick that ball. And like you you're just trying to keep up. Yeah, you're just ball chasing. Yeah. And and the first while was spent just driving after the ball hoping to maybe I could touch it, maybe I can touch it and maybe I can touch it in the direction that is away from my goal. And that's it.
Starting point is 02:26:23 That's all you want to do. Maybe I could do that. And it just it escaped from me so hard right away. All right. Mothman has a weird statement, which I'm going to take to the to us. Yes. Which is that Rocket League is the fighting game of video games. OK. Well, that's fine.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Um, that's a good statement, Moth. But it's just it's just a very, very difficult, like starting line. And you can see that the ceiling is in space. Yeah, because it's open physics. You know, and your ability to master that like pool, for example, is. It's it's but like it's a pool still involves hitting the ball on a 2D plane. Yeah. And rolling it and spinning it on a 2D plane.
Starting point is 02:27:17 Whereas 3D here, it's a 3D plane, and then you have the boost and then you have the ability to literally goon the other team. When are we going to get Rocket League at the Olympics? It's not the worst idea. I'd rather watch that than the soccer games they have. I really didn't know about the gooning aspect where you can literally just go blow up the other teammates and like that's an efficient thing. You can sports game has gooning.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Yeah, you can help out your team by doing that, right? You can run different styles of defense and offense and all this crazy shit. But all this to say that like I was having a blast with it. I just couldn't for the life of me get anything done. You know, and then after playing a little bit online, I played did some training and then played like 1v1 with Reggie and like got to like at least be forced into a situation where you're going to have to control the ball a little more often and then got a little bit of the hang of it,
Starting point is 02:28:16 but got blown the fuck out in those games. And then we started doing 2v2s online. And then I'm like, OK, and by the end of the session, it was far from decent. No, I don't imagine. But I was able to on at least two or three occasions, control the ball, dribble it, make a nice little set up and then score. I hit the ball.
Starting point is 02:28:39 Yeah, I did it. Yeah. And I was also able to throw my car in the way of the ball and stop it from getting in the net a couple of times. Good. And I was like, yeah, OK, those those victories, like they feel so good when you make them happen because you're doing it in spite of how difficult it is to get mastery over this time. Yeah, because it's a weird it's a weird game in which like when I played it,
Starting point is 02:29:05 I like moving my car is simple, mechanically, but not technique wise. No, technique wise, it's actually laughably difficult. Yes, because all you have to do is drive towards the ball. No, but that's in terms of actual, like proper play. You are spending most of your time in the air. Yeah, you are airborne and you are using like your second jump to boost in any direction
Starting point is 02:29:34 and then using your boost to actually continue moving in that direction and trying to spin or hit the ball perfectly towards that net. And it's crazy. It's fucking nuts, man. It's immediately understandable how it became such a big eSport. It's wild, because I mean, when we did the video, Liam pointed out to me that the game already came out with a really stupid title. Supersonic fucking crazy car back on PS2.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Yeah, had no online play. Yeah, and so they tuned it up a little bit and just made it more or less the same game. Yeah, but I had online play. Yeah, giant phenomenon. That's it. That's it. That's all you do. Yeah, and there's all those little decals and sweet tooth
Starting point is 02:30:17 from from twisted metals in it. Yeah, and I know there's like a Metroid car at one point. You put your flags on and whatever. Yeah, you know, not doesn't doesn't matter. Drive the car, hit the ball, drive it, hit the ball. No, ball floats high. Uh, you got to float higher, use momentum, play, hit. Uh, yeah, it really fucking like I can just see.
Starting point is 02:30:44 How much time you have to put in to getting decent at making like plays with a team and I have so much respect for them. And then there's the team. There's you. And then there's the team. Two separate ladders of skill progression. Oh, certainly. Yeah, right. Like any sport. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:05 Like any sport other than like boxing or MMA or yeah, whatever. And I definitely I don't remember the last time I felt the ceiling immediately. Like first, second, you know, because I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, and I played it before. It was just it's just been a while since I popped it in and sort of touched it, you know, but like looking at it now in this post-esport world or you're just like, oh, yeah, everything immediately, you can see everything you cannot and won't be doing.
Starting point is 02:31:36 You can you can feel it right away. And I guess the goal is to not be too intimidated by that. Yeah, you know, and kind of just keep at it until you understand. Like every time I jumped, you can double jump and do a flip to speed yourself up. It's a bit like racers and how you speed up by doing like a flip and moving forward. But every time I jumped, it was way too early for where the ball was going to be. And then there was a couple of other times where like I have a habit of like waiting to analyze the situation and then doing something.
Starting point is 02:32:02 And by the time you you do that, you're it's too late. It's funny because a lot of people and it's probably the only time you're ever going to hear me say this. So get ready. A lot of people de facto think of athletes as dumb as dumb dumb's because big, big man, big, strong man, you know, whatever, right? Hitting a moving object that's traveling at a fast speed is actually a lot of really complicated physics.
Starting point is 02:32:24 It's hard. Yes, hitting a ball is hard. Yes, it's hard because your brain now doing that while sub one is actively trying to stop you from doing it. So finding a way to confuse and fake that person out. Yeah, while hitting that ball that's traveling. Yeah, that means that your physics part that's going to be like this where ball hit swing.
Starting point is 02:32:47 That's in the background. That's locked in. Now I'm doing my my big brain like, oh, no. Play the person in front of me and then automatically hit the ball. I bet sports players would be good stand battlers. Yeah, probably. Yeah, because the the hitting the ball part is has to be automatic. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:33:09 That can't be. You know, it's funny. I remember taking any of your brain power. This breakdown of the physics of baseball because we'll fuck it. I'll read this and the math on it came out that in if a baseball is fast enough, the math on the human reaction time doesn't work. You're like, that doesn't make sense. They have to be swinging before they see the ball release.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Yeah. Therefore, they're making micro adjustments. Yeah. And with invisible data, also ball parking just based on the arm. Yeah. And it's like, that's crazy. That's not so that's that's reacting to the button input as opposed to the actual animation.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Yeah. Yeah, it is. I heard this motherfucker do a super next to me. At the cab. Yeah. It is quite it is quite insane. It is quite insane. And I feel like.
Starting point is 02:34:00 The the like, that's why those moments where there's a dude in a hockey game. I think he was on the Bruins or something or boss. I don't know. He was whatever. And he was like skating in a shootout and then like he skated and then he completely missed the puck in the shootout. And it was like, that's news. Yeah, because like it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 02:34:21 You're that's supposed to be automatic. And that you should have been you should have actually done that a million times. And it was five five and then the losing or whatever. So and then on the flip side, you have that animated gif of a guy and some hockey game last week, just picking up the puck on a stick, just dancing around, bopping it, little girl standing on a skateboard on top of a ball, bouncing it like like balancing and doing left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:34:44 Remember. Way back in the day when local Montreal hero, Mario, Leo, Namne, I fucked that up, Mario, Namne, whatever. Super Mario landed a goal doing that breakaway, picks the fucking puck up on a stick and starts bouncing it towards the goalie and then just pops it out of the air into the net. Yeah. And it's like, what are you come on?
Starting point is 02:35:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not. No, I saw a college, a college shot where someone he like almost did like the splits and then like picked the puck up on the stick and moved it around his back and did one and dunked it in the upper corner. And it's just impossible. There's nothing you can do to stop that. That's like you picked up with your hand and put it in the back of the net.
Starting point is 02:35:35 It's just not happening. You just nothing that could be done at the end of Rocket League when a game is when the time when the you're the buzzer goes. Yeah, as long as the ball doesn't hit the ground. Oh, yeah, I didn't know about this. This is awesome. The play keeps go. Oh, yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah. So Reggie is like, OK, keep it in the air.
Starting point is 02:35:55 And I'm like, shut your whole mouth. I can barely drive. What do you mean? Keep it in the air. It's like, no, do bounce. Do it. Keep the bounce going. You can get a goal. You know, if it's fucking if it's two one, you can tie it up as long as you drive and bounce and drive and bounce and then shoot and score. You know, but you got to do the most
Starting point is 02:36:13 do it in amazing setups as a team or something about do it. What? No, just do it. Like I was a really I was so mad at like what I what was being asked of me while I'm in the I'm like I'm I'm squinting at the fucking parking break. You know, try to figure out how to hit the clutch. Yeah, Rocket League is wild. Rocket League is great. It's great. We're going to be doing that.
Starting point is 02:36:41 I played it for a while with him and some other random people on the chat and stuff. So that's going to be a three parter at least because we looked at it for like almost four hours. So. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We did a big night of it. So that's going to be a couple parts. But like please understand that the first episode
Starting point is 02:37:00 this first Rocket League is horrible as we know nothing and get nothing and do nothing. Yeah, it's rough. So just just we're going to warm up. We get a little bit a little bit better at the end of it. But it starts bad because we don't know what we're doing. I mean, that's how it go. Just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 02:37:22 And I definitely definitely wouldn't mind revisiting that a little bit more and and and feeling if I can move up that zero point zero zero one percent that I did that night every time I touch it. That's satisfying enough for me. Yeah. Maybe I'll hit one percent one day. Maybe. Well, you fucking crushed it on Teppen.
Starting point is 02:37:44 So who knows? Teppen is. At the it's still a like all your learning is happening outside of gameplay almost. No, that's not true. How do I put this? It's different when there's book knowledge to Teppen, whereas it's not Rocket League's all practical applications.
Starting point is 02:38:07 Yes, but exactly. Yes, there's that's a big learn it by field. You learn it by field and its timing and its inputs and its precision. And at the end of the day, a car game is still mostly strategy. Yeah, there's a bit of timing to it. Sure. But it's mostly book theory. And then you pass the exam. Throw this punch a million times.
Starting point is 02:38:28 Yeah, OK. Yeah, Teppen is passing the exam. And and in this case, it's it's like fucking mastering the timing. Hey, if this guy is going at 35 miles an hour down the left side lane, puts a turn signal on, it's a four way stop in Albuquerque. Do you just keep going? Are you fucking? That's Teppen.
Starting point is 02:38:50 It's like, can you park the car? At all. Whereas in this case, that's Rocket League. In this case, if is, yeah, if he's putting his turn signal on, do you boost over him? And then his car before he turns and then air dodged sideways and hit the hit the ball with the bottom of your back wheel. I mean, yeah, you can you.
Starting point is 02:39:11 You can put a spin on it. Yeah, you can put a spin on the ball. You can put a spin on the ball. Like, dude, I like there was a play where I think it was either wool or solid system, one of the people that we were playing with. Like I went up and I hit the ball with like the from my side and they hit it from their side and like it totally had a spin as it fucking went towards the net.
Starting point is 02:39:32 Physics are super like happening. Turn down real life physics. I'm done with this. Oh, but it floats like fuck like a motherfucker. I'd like less friction in the world, please. OK, so I did that. Also, we had a salt party and took a look at some some fucking good ass salt inducing games such as Duck Game, which is a good time.
Starting point is 02:39:57 Ultimate Chicken Horse. Yeah, a lot of fun with that. Always solid. And also speed runners, which doesn't get a lot of play, doesn't come up very often other than me asking, what's the music to this again? And you go, it's from speed runners. But that game, that should be that should be a genre.
Starting point is 02:40:15 That should be a thing. Like it only exists in the form of that game. And I think Rascals is kind of close in a way where it's like platform racer, right? There's a little bit of it back in the Sonic 3 versus mode. There was a little bit of it back in the new Super Mario Brothers on 2DS game that I can think of called like Ultimate Super Truck or something. Truck Pocalypse, where you're jumping on the backs of semis in your racing. Can't remember the name of it, but it was similar.
Starting point is 02:40:42 But like platform racing, you know, is set with laps. Is really something I really have a lot of fun with. Cluster truck. Cluster truck. Yeah, I remember cluster truck. Yeah, this is not that. No, but I really do. I really do wish that like this was like a title because when you would go to look it up on YouTube, you type in speed runner.
Starting point is 02:41:03 Yep. Oh, very difficult to. Yes, very difficult. OK, wait, speed runners game. Tiny build speed runners like. Shit. Fantastic music, just fun game design and something that I wish there was genres of if I had the ability to, I would love to design my own game that was similar in that nature with some good old platforming abilities.
Starting point is 02:41:28 But yeah, that's all salt party stuff. So yeah, that'll be that'll be popping up. It's a lot more minimalistic than I thought it was. Yeah, pretty simple. All it really consists of is you're running laps on a a large platform stage with boosts and you have a grappling hook, you have a turbo, you have a couple of items you run past, right? And then if you are good at jumping and swinging at the perfect time,
Starting point is 02:41:55 then you get a lot of momentum. And your goal is to run the screen past everybody and kill them with the edge of the screen. The edge of the screen is what kills you. Oh, that's great. So as long as you are keeping up, you're fine. But when you're so far ahead of the rest of the pack that they get pushed off the screen, they die.
Starting point is 02:42:14 That's great. Reminds me of like an N plus meat boy. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, totally. And and memorization for what's coming up next, even though it's off screen. Yeah, is a huge part of that. That's cool. So you can't see what's coming next.
Starting point is 02:42:29 But if you remember, jump right here, grappling hook and then fall down that little speed well, and then the screen will fly to track where you're going and everyone behind you is fucking dead. You know, and there's little bits and pieces you can do. Like you have an item that lets you grapple onto someone and slingshot. You pass them, you know, you have like whatever, like a missile. You have a defensive shield. You have all kinds of crazy shit.
Starting point is 02:42:55 So it's a really, really fun game. I'm glad they at least ported it up to PS4 from the from the 360 era. But yeah, then so those videos are coming out on the channel. Probably a little bit later this week, alongside the Death Stranding stuff and the Rocket League stuff, I'm going to be starting a new LP soon as well. What I did do is I got a tweet at some point earlier this week and the tweet was pretty straightforward. I get these every once in a while and I God bless your soul individual
Starting point is 02:43:28 who wrote in and simply said, hey, my hero is about to hit one of those episodes. You know, the kind that you might not be able to avoid. Catch up now. This is the week to do it. And I was like, fuck, yes. That tweet was accurate. Thank you. That tweet was very accurate.
Starting point is 02:43:45 I live for that because that is exactly what I need in my life. Is the this is the week. Here's your time limit. Got it. Appreciate it. Love you. So I caught up in my hero to this arc is good to season four. This is a very good arc, very good villain.
Starting point is 02:44:07 And I feel that my hero is really like so it's interesting in the sense that it's like you can tell when the arc is going to be all the way on the side in the sense that it's like time to introduce a bunch of people that were not around at all a minute ago. Yeah. But they matter, you know, for at least we'll leave them later for the growth of the characters. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:30 Um, but the other thing is like, and I knew this was going to happen to is you can tell how my hero, it shows you step one and then says step two and three. Yeah, you can imagine this will happen, but then the next step it actually shows you is step 10. Yeah. And it's done this every season and it works every time. It lays groundwork and it puts the bricks down and says the next thing you expect to see is, yeah, you know, you expect to see the jump from Kaio Ken times one to
Starting point is 02:45:03 Kaio Ken times five. Oh, wow. And then someone then Goku eats that fucking tree of life fruit and goes out and 100, 100 or Super Saiyan goes, goes, goes ultra instinct on it. And then you're like, it's that stratosphere jump. You know, they did it with all might. They did it with Deku. They did it with a lot of the cast, you know, and
Starting point is 02:45:26 then there's also the bit where where it's at now. Like they introduced that really cool character, Lumillian. Yeah, good. I like him a lot. I like that he looks like he's from a bomb. Yes, you know, I like that he looks like he's from a French tin tin. Yep. Love it dude.
Starting point is 02:45:45 Really cool character. And then they all acts like he's from one too. He does. He does. And they and they they walk you through the the thing where it's like his ability is very difficult to use and only becomes insanely dangerous when you put your mind to it. Also, it sucks to use.
Starting point is 02:46:05 Yeah. But if you do the work, it can do a lot of good things like any good stand. Yeah. Uh, you always appreciate that. But then you also see like a bunch of the other classmates where you're like, OK, but at the end of the day, what else are you going to be able to? What do they got?
Starting point is 02:46:21 What do you what can you do? You know, and like, they're kind of they're doing it a little bit. You got a cool new look. You can do something. You can do something. I kind of like you. So I'm interested in seeing, I guess, what high level tape elbows looks like. Because what the fuck are you going to do with tape elbows, man?
Starting point is 02:46:41 And choke you with it. I don't know. I don't know, you know, but like, that's all I look at is I look at the cast that doesn't have incredible abilities to begin with the people who don't have S rank potential on their stand. Busted quirks. Yeah. You people without busted quirks finding ways to use them in busted
Starting point is 02:46:58 ways, if possible, that's what I really want to see. Well, one of my favorites is a fucking, uh, like a ravity or whatever. A ravity. Yeah. And it's like, if she got in a fight with most villains, just touch them and just nudge them a little. There's that. Just nudge them a little up.
Starting point is 02:47:16 And then that problem is solved. But she's always been shown working best with combos. Sure. Right. She does the touch. Someone else does the carry. That's not a very heroic thing to do is to just go. Oh, I'll see you.
Starting point is 02:47:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and yeah, no, I, I, uh, I legitimately, that's the part of the show that I think I want to see more of because your main characters get that growth, but like, I want to see a, I want to see people with fucking sticky hair. I want to see Manetta figure out something to do with that. I saw now, if this has happened in the manga, please don't confirm for me,
Starting point is 02:47:57 please, but I saw the idea floated that the reason Manetta exists is to be like, he's, he's on the team, but he's also like the scummy pervert. Yeah. So he's the one that so and so will just kill outright to be like, the stakes are real on this. Manetta's dead. I can't believe it. Shigetchi.
Starting point is 02:48:20 Yeah. Okay. Sure. I can't. Oh my God. Yeah, he's the, he's the disposable fucking gross. No one will miss him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:29 Okay. But, but, but no, that's, that's, that's, that is what I'm very interested in seeing is like, can the author figure out a way now that they've like laid out what the basics of these abilities are. And they've already shown them going to the training wall and like, you know, figuring out level two. Yeah. But can you get them to level five?
Starting point is 02:48:51 So I'm in this really weird space where, uh, Google recommends things to me and it will often recommend like anime news network over the fuck going like, the newest hero act chapter shows off a crazy new ability for an old favorite. And I'm like, yeah, I'll click on it. Fuck it. And every time I've seen that, I've been like, that's pretty good. Hmm. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:49:15 Yeah. The other thing too, as soon as a new villain is introduced in any context, yeah, I'm like, okay, how broken is your shit? All right. What anime are you representing? Full metal. Alchemist. How broken is your shit?
Starting point is 02:49:28 It's gotta be. And then at what point are you going to start doing things where right there? Got it. All right. Right away. Yeah. That part where you touched that person and they died instantly. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:37 Like, okay, that's the threat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The threat got it. And it's like, no, it gets a little bit more complicated than that. And then you can start doing other things with that.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Okay. Cool. Yeah. Or I see suddenly, um, those League of Villains fucks look a lot less interesting by comparison moment where you're like, oh, you guys, you guys are all losers. You guys are dumb. And you're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:50:06 You look kind of dumb with this mask. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It'll always basically what I'm saying is every time someone invents a new move off of a limited power set, it'll be a pop every time. Yeah. Yeah. I think we will all be like, oh, yeah, it's also a fun thing because this is
Starting point is 02:50:24 the arc where you get to see who, who's popular. Mm hmm. Who was not intended to be popular, but ended up being popular. Sure. Mr. Red Riot. Sure. Sure. Who gets to hang out even though they were clearly, clearly never intended to be
Starting point is 02:50:41 people seem to be very fond of Deadpool and violent schoolgirl. Yes. People like those characters. She's great. They're great. Yeah. They are fun. Twice is also great.
Starting point is 02:50:54 Everything about him is the best. I kept calling it. I kept saying double, but it's twice. Yeah. Um, so, uh, uh, and then the one other thought was, uh, I, I don't know how long they're going to telegraph this like passing of the torch timeline on the story. But like, I feel like, I feel like all might is hitting emotional peaks that you already know, but I guess it's like, it's still working because of like.
Starting point is 02:51:31 It's like, I think the music is swelling in such a right way. The music use in this week's episode, I would term a plus. It's the music is swelling in just the right way where you're like, I fucking know that, oh, but it's good though. I love you all night. Oh, it's good. And then they can cut back as many times as they need to of kids watching all might be in there.
Starting point is 02:51:56 How many, how many times are we going to flash back to a different character going, watching YouTube, going, oh my God, it's a cheap trick. But I've marked out for it every time it works. It does. It does work. Um, that's what I was going to say. Shout outs to, uh, the My Hero Academia version of Choji being way cooler, way cooler than Choji.
Starting point is 02:52:25 I like that a lot more than Choji. Yep. Fat power, much better fat power. Can be done better than that. I like that a lot. Very good. Appreciated. What is it?
Starting point is 02:52:37 Fat gum? Fat gum. Fat gum. Yeah, that's right. That was all right. That was all right. That was definitely cool. Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:45 So that season, I probably imagined it has like one or two left. Probably, yeah. Okay. Because right now this is the, this is the episode where the pop off occurs. Yeah. So whatever that one was, um, so I went back and watched the finale of one punch season, man, one good. Yes.
Starting point is 02:53:04 Got it. And, uh, there's a lot of shots in this episode of Hero Academia that look like shots from that final fight. And I wonder if it's homage or the manga, homage it, because there's the one shot with the raised fist and the hair with the sun. Yeah. That looks like a completely different person. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:23 That I'm like, oh, man, that was cool. Yeah. Certainly. With the hair. And you know what else I like too? Um, I was paying attention early in the seasons. Every time, um, every time, um, um, um, Midoriya would, uh, same animator. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:43 Yeah. It turns out that's what the peeps and our chats are saying. Ah, well, that would explain why it feels the same. Okay. Well, as a fan of the passage of time in my stories, I thoroughly remember and appreciate that scene from season one where main character says, this is how I became the greatest hero and you're hearing adult voice and then a hard cut to kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:11 And then, uh, the next season, this is how I became big hero man. And then again, adult voice. And then it cuts back away and then you go, whatever. And this time around the narration in the beginning of every episode of this season was adult voice. Yeah. So adult voice is becoming more of a present thing, which might mean nothing. But I like the idea of that paying more, playing more of a role because you
Starting point is 02:54:39 know, the carrot on the stick, you want to hope it's not the end. And the whole point of the reason why everybody's so big excited is that you got to nibble on the carrot this week. Yeah. You got to have a little fucking tool, which is the same and this is the formula that it's always been, right? Yeah. The promise of the time skip that'll give you everything you want, which it never
Starting point is 02:55:02 does, but it gets you like excited for potential because all you ever want to see is potential realized. Yeah. And it's very satisfying when you know that like, we've got the narrator already telling you, you just have to see it yet. It's going to be super cool, man. When it gets there, it's going to be so cool. Who the hell do you think I am?
Starting point is 02:55:22 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. You know, like, I remember watching every light in the stars. And like, by the time the second part rolled around, I completely forgot about that intro. Yeah. I always pay attention to it. Like nowadays it's, it's a thing I like.
Starting point is 02:55:36 So every time something starts out where it's like, this is where we're going. I'm going to be like, and I'm going to hold you to that. Because you've, you've, you've made a promise. Show me what this means and don't make it half-assed and not nonsensical. Really excited for that attack on Titan one to come around. Sure am. Sure am. That one's going to be a dunker if, if it gets dunked and you don't hailed it, Pat.
Starting point is 02:56:03 And while the thought process is like, yo, time skip to the cool shit. No, you don't have to do that. You got to edge yourself to the iron fist. Chimmy. Hmm. A fun old manga about a kung fu kid learning his martial arts that he ages on the spine of the book, every book, and he gets a little bit older. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 02:56:26 And you see it happen. You don't skip time. You watch it grow. That's cool. Vagabond. Judge Dredd is the one that pops into my mind. You, you watch it happen. Judge Dredd takes place in real time and Judge Dredd is in his like eighties now.
Starting point is 02:56:42 Apparently that's crazy. That's cool. I like that. Yeah, man. Um, you don't have to do the time skip. You can just show it. Yeah. You know, and then if you want to write a lot, sure.
Starting point is 02:56:53 And, you know, if the voice actor has the range to go from adult voice to kid voice that easy, then they can, they can hit the gradients in between. No problem. Anyway, um, my hero. Yay. Glad I caught back up on that. That music's really good. Hey, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:57:19 I want to take a second. You know what's the best thing you can do? Have a track play for like 75 episodes in a row and then give it lyrics. That's good. That's a good little trick because you're like, oh, the song is to, oh, no, it's so much more important and emotional now because there's a lady singing. Yeah, the revenge and trick, you know, it's new layers totally and it swells every time, you know, it gets you, but it's not, and it's not just all about
Starting point is 02:57:58 whatever goes with everything. Gile, you say run, you say, it's not just about you say run up that after the first season that never came back, but that was, you know what I mean? Like it's, it's the full fucking, it's everything. Anyway, so yeah, enjoying my hero. Yeah, that's whatever. That's about it. All right.
Starting point is 02:58:16 Where would people check out woolly stuff? So if you head on over to woolly versus on YouTube, or if you check me out on woolly versus on Twitch, you can check out, like I said, we did some Rocket League. There's Salt Party that's going to be coming out. I'm going to be gone to Frosty Fostings this weekend. I'm going to be doing some commentary for Samurai Showdown, top 16 and possibly top eight. So if you're interested in that, you can check that out.
Starting point is 02:58:41 And I'm also going to be dropping at some point a new episode of Woolly. We'll figure it out is going to come out this week. What are you figuring out? Just a couple of general things, take some some questions and and sitting down with a punch bomb, actually. And yeah, I'm going to be doing that a little doing that more often. Every, every time you say I'm going to do woolly, we'll figure it out episode. I want to ask you, hey, what are you figuring out this week?
Starting point is 02:59:11 And you're like, how to build a table? Yeah, or, you know, something like something really, really banal. Usually not. But nonetheless, we will figure it out is is back and is going to be going is going to be happening regularly as well. So new schedules working out all right. So yeah, that's all over it. Woolly versus and this is the part where we move over after three hours
Starting point is 02:59:40 to the video game part. I had fun in that first conversation. I had a ton of fun in that first conversation. I don't regret having fun in that conversation. No, me either. But I'm just, I think it's really funny because it is. There is actually news this there is news this week. One of which made poor Max extremely, extremely sad.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Poor Max. Yeah, and also poor everyone else who works in this business. But first to work from our sponsors. Let's do that. And I don't know what to tell you, man. If I'm having fun with the conversation, I don't regret it. Oh, no, me either. I just think it's funny.
Starting point is 03:00:23 Yeah, yeah. If I want to check out, I'll just be like, I don't care about this anymore. Fuck this. No, but if I don't do that. OK, but if this if this podcast is the Montreal Gazette and you're opening it up and like you're looking, I think we have higher standards of the Montreal Gazette on this podcast. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:00:39 I if I had to name a rag. Yeah, I named our local rag. Yeah, I couldn't say something good like the Devoir. What? Oh, what's that fucking one called? Globe and Mail. No, the front. It's the Quebec garbage. La presse.
Starting point is 03:00:54 La presse, yes. Yeah, we could have gone for La presse. Yeah, anyway. And then you were like, you know, all trashed. And you were like, yeah, top story buried on like page six or whatever. But I get it. Yeah, I get it. There's a lot of rambling to get through before you get to page six.
Starting point is 03:01:15 I think that rambling is important. I people got to know the kids are hustling. I mean, they do. But more importantly, mm hmm. What else do they got to know about? I don't know how to say this in a non dickish way. I think it's important that we have fun when we talk. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:01:37 And I think that if we don't have fun when we talk, that that will hurt. Now, an uncharitable person would say, well, Willie, I'm glad that we're going to be going into the news, the part where we don't have fun. But that's not what I mean. That's not what I mean. Certainly, that's the wrong way to take it. That's the wrong way to take it. No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:01:58 The real part is the emails. That's where we don't have fun. I saw a thread that was like fellow bad email writers. What was your question? And it cracked me the fuck up. Oh, don't assume that just because your email doesn't get read that it's bad. There's a lot of emails in a lot of them. No, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's all for the sake of enjoyment.
Starting point is 03:02:27 And I think I think it was actually fellow bad email writers. What were you going to call them? Oh, yeah, that's true. What were you going to call them? What's your like? Hey, hey, Super Beast Castle fucks barf barf barf barf. That's one of my favorites at barf pail top barf. Yeah, at barf mail up barf.
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Starting point is 03:11:29 So, yes, as you stated, there was, in fact, news this week. Sad news for everyone. I think it's fine. Yeah? Yeah. You can't- What news are we talking about? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:11:45 Are we so? Is it the problem of once a timeline has been established, even though it has been- We're talking about the Final Fantasy VII remake being delayed until April 10th after having previously had a release date in March. Dear God, one month, whatever will we do? It's not the delay that upsets me personally. Oh, okay. The problem is that delay puts it on motherfucking April 10th. Which means it's right next to a cyberpunk?
Starting point is 03:12:16 Which means Resident Evil III comes out on April 3rd and Cyberpunk comes out on April 16th. Gotcha. Fuck! Gotcha. Man. Yeah. I got a lot of hours to put in on my birthday month. That tightens it up.
Starting point is 03:12:36 That tightens it up. Since when is April the death month for video games? Well, you know, since they decided to delay it for quality reasons. Now, yeah, five weeks, that is. Let's polish up this thing or whatever. It's not a failed submission. Now, if you happen to overlap with all three of those things, then that's going to make things tricky. That's going to make it difficult.
Starting point is 03:13:04 You're going to have to make some decisions. Make some big boy adult decisions. No, I don't want to. Well, you don't have much of a choice. And Kakarot comes out tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, it's a mess. Okay.
Starting point is 03:13:19 That's fine. See, I thought for a second that you were just like, boo, it's not... Oh, no. And I was like, oh, come on. Because before it was like, oh, it's going to be tight, but we're going to do it. And now it's like, I don't even know when. I beat that whole game in six days. You make your decision which video games to play like a big adult.
Starting point is 03:13:38 No, Wully, it's not about playing them. It's that I run a fucking live stream schedule now. But talking... It's a unique problem. Yes, but everyone else... I don't care about them. I'm talking about them. No, fuck them.
Starting point is 03:13:51 They can play whatever video games, whatever they want. They don't need to be on the cutting edge of the hotness. Well, they also have to pick which one to buy. Yeah, but it'll be discounted later. So, I mean, it's win-win. I mean, not everyone's going to grab them all right away, certainly. No, no, of course not. So, yeah, I can see that.
Starting point is 03:14:10 Whichever ones you don't grab, I'll be playing over at Twitch.tv slash Angriest Pat in the month of April. In a vacuum. In a white room. In an isolated system. Delays are good. I'm fine with the delay. Yeah, polish it up.
Starting point is 03:14:24 Make it good. No problem. They've announced that the next part will come out in 2022 as well. But yeah, if it pushes right up against something else you really wanted, then that's tough. That's tough. But hey... Luckily...
Starting point is 03:14:38 The news itself is that it is... Yeah, as they said, they didn't give any specifics besides saying April 10th and quality reasons is what it is. That's about it. Make it better. They will. I wonder what they're going to make it better with. You know, like...
Starting point is 03:15:01 Like, is it just like add one extra frame or... One month... One month is just bug fixes. It's just like this little... One month is user path shit. It's bug fixes. You're not seeing any fucking features getting dropped in there.
Starting point is 03:15:21 It's really just going through that database and trying to get those numbers down. That database is probably gargantuan. We really got to get an extra sheen on Red's Rocket for that scene. The specular effects on the drip just aren't there. Drip, he says. I said it.
Starting point is 03:15:50 So yeah... Can I fuck him? Nope, that one's not going away. It's in there. Cheers. Appreciate that. Just lock that brain worm in. Make some decisions.
Starting point is 03:16:15 I feel like... I feel like when it comes down to it, if worse comes to worse, you could always just play them all at the same time. At the same time. What's the fucking problem? You can't handle Keanu Cloud and Carlos? You did it.
Starting point is 03:16:38 At the same time? You said Jill, but that's okay. I stuck with the sound. Yeah. Yo, that Nemesis trailer came out. Is that on here? It sure is. Holy shit, he looks incredible.
Starting point is 03:16:49 Did you see it? No, but I heard there's a mask. Yeah, he wears a... Remember Mr. X had a hat and he didn't have a hat before? Yep. Now Nemesis starts with a full leather mask with only one eye showing. So you don't see the teeth thing?
Starting point is 03:17:01 Yeah, and as you fuck his ass up, you're tearing off bits and pieces of his outfit. He looks fucking awesome. He's got a flamethrower now. He's bigger than ever. He's gooier. He's tossing people around. Is he a mechanic or a boss?
Starting point is 03:17:22 It looks like he'll be both. Was he a mechanic before? He was a... He was both. I beat RE3 last week, so I'm super fresh on it. Is it similar? The way... Well, they haven't gone into super detail,
Starting point is 03:17:37 but the way that it worked in RE3 is that there would be parts in the game, but you would do a puzzle or whatever, and he would show up. And you'd be like, oh shit. And you could either run, and you'd have to get quite far because he would zone through areas,
Starting point is 03:17:51 or you could fight him and get upgrades. It looks like there'll be times where there'll be events where you run from him, and there'll be times where it's like, you know, you're locked in, you're gonna have this fucking fight. Oh, so before you could always run away? Run away nine times out of ten.
Starting point is 03:18:09 And is that the smart thing to do? It depends. It's hard to kill him, but you get cool upgraded weapons out of him. Okay, but let's say, like, you're playing it, and you're on stream and everyone's like, what are you gonna be a coward? Yeah, be a coward.
Starting point is 03:18:21 Yeah? Oh, really? It's hard to kill him every time? It's hard to kill him every time. It'll be an hour and a half to kill him the first time on stream the other day. Oh my god. No, not like sitting there shooting him,
Starting point is 03:18:30 but like... Trying and trying and trying again. Yeah, I died like seven, eight times in a row. Oh, okay. It's hard. And do you make it out of there with, like, no resources? You make it out with less,
Starting point is 03:18:38 but he gives you a piece of a handgun, a second piece of a handgun, which is way better than a regular handgun. Okay. Then he gives you a box of first-stage sprays, then shotgun parts, shotgun parts, a second box of first-stage sprays. So that's what it takes one slot in your inventory,
Starting point is 03:18:55 but it's three sprays. Okay. Because, yeah, that's all. It's just a question of, like, you will be told to not coward out, but is it even reasonable? The thing is, in RE3, you are just rounding in ammunition.
Starting point is 03:19:08 There is so much ammo. But the reason for that is because RE3 has way, way, way more enemies, and you see that in the trailer. There's a lot of enemies, and one of the things that is going to make that possible is there's going to be a button, probably circle, that's dodge, like, juke, or, you know, duck,
Starting point is 03:19:29 or whatever the fuck it is. The mercenaries button? The mercenaries button. Didn't mercenaries include that button that allows you to do all those crazy ground rolls and flips and shit? I don't remember. I don't think so.
Starting point is 03:19:44 I remember Liam talking about it a bunch back in the day with the whole, like, you could do way more acrobatic shit in those games than you could in the older system. I remember. And in this case, it was just, in two, it was just a quick turn, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:19:59 So here will be, like, a little dodge. Dodge underneath zombie's arms. Dodge underneath the hunter's slice. Dodge, a rocket launcher shot from Nemesis. So in the trailer, he has a flamethrower, and that's cool, that's new. But then a screenshot came out that he also has his rocket launcher.
Starting point is 03:20:17 So he'll have a bunch of different shit to come at you, and they show him using his tentacle arm, like, in a regular fight, which he never did in the original game. So yeah, he's going to be for real. He's going to be great. And outside of dumping on him, you're still pretty healthy on ammo for the most part.
Starting point is 03:20:36 In RE3? Oh, you're drowning in it. Okay. It's fucking crazy. So are you still cleaning out rooms? Oh, yeah, you're, yeah. It's just more to do, okay? Yeah, there's just more.
Starting point is 03:20:44 Okay. Like the average zombie per room is much higher in three. And I assume they will take that forward with this, because one of the things that I really like that RE3 didn't actually do back in the day is that in this RE3, there's people that are alive, around, cool. I'm thinking about how the new zombies work
Starting point is 03:21:09 if they have overwhelming numbers, and like how hard that would get. Same as before, just more ability to dodge past them. Yeah. And I guess aim, and also take place entirely in city streets. So. Oh, no, no. Oh, there's interiors,
Starting point is 03:21:29 but like most of the game, street level. Okay. Okay. But whatever, aim tight and true, and there shouldn't be a problem. Yep. Maybe they'll make them weaker by comparison, because fuck it.
Starting point is 03:21:41 I don't know. I hope they keep something that RE3 had that I didn't quite realize just how crazy it was. The original RE3 has lots of random elements. If you went left, if you went into this room instead of this room, that means a different cut scene will play, because you got there later.
Starting point is 03:21:57 Sometimes the dogs jump out of this window. Sometimes it's crows. Sometimes the zombie pops out of this car. Sometimes the zombie pops out of that car over there. Oh. There are lots and- Zapping type shit within a single. But within one.
Starting point is 03:22:08 Within one. And there is lots of variability. And I would love to see like an integrated randomizer of some kind. That would be really cool. Considering the nature of how they went through the difficulty scale system. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:22:23 That could be easily done, I imagine. I don't know about easily, but it would be nice. Sorry, not easily. The groundwork exists. They've shown the willingness to do cool shit like that. Yeah. So that'd be interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 03:22:38 Right on, right on. That game looks really good. Is it longer? RE3? Yeah. Okay. But this one might be. Carlos, you can see Carlos is going to have a new sequence.
Starting point is 03:22:49 He never went to the RPD in the original. And he'll be going there this time. Which... I bet he'll fight Nemesis in the RPD because I mean, you played RE2. There was that shower wall that had gotten fucked up. That looks like somebody punched it down. A mobility button sounds like a good thing.
Starting point is 03:23:09 That's the only way to fix the thing of like, Mr. X was fast enough in that new system. This is a monster that'll be able to sprint. Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of other characters as opposed to the handful that you meet in 2. Yeah, there's a handful you met in 3, but then there are also... Mikael.
Starting point is 03:23:32 So Tyrell. Murphy. You met all those guys? The difference is there's a shot of a subway train on this where people are hiding out. In the original, that subway train was just filled with Mikael and Nikolai and that's it. And now it's like, no, there's civvies.
Starting point is 03:23:47 There's people that are alive that you'll talk to. Yeah, these are all those teppen characters. Yeah, yeah. Maybe we'll run into a character from Outbreak. That would be nice. Brad the teppen guy. Yeah, no, he's from RE1. No, he's teppen.
Starting point is 03:24:05 Yeah, he gets fucking owned in RE3, man. He gets tentacled. He's bad. Well, it says here that he's a helicopter pilot. Yeah, his nickname's Chickenheart. If you are a helicopter pilot in a horror movie, there is no end for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:24 There is no credits for you. You're not making it. Except for the other helicopter pilot in that story. Really? Yeah. I feel like the first thing you have to do is establish that your safest way out of there, which is I'm flying out of this motherfucker,
Starting point is 03:24:40 doesn't work. Yeah. That's what that's like. That's level one. So I'll tell you, the plot of RE3, the entire plot, like the main line is we have to get to a helicopter. OK, OK. There's going to be a helicopter there.
Starting point is 03:24:54 Yeah. But there's this shit in the way. Yeah. We've got to get there. I fully expect there will be a twist regarding that helicopter compared to the original. Oh, and it introduces hunters. Right.
Starting point is 03:25:12 OK. Yeah. The first Resident Evil engine hunters, which is weird because they're one of the original enemies. They look good. They had to build past the first. Yeah, RE1 enemies to make two stuff. And now three is going back to one.
Starting point is 03:25:33 It's weird. It's weird. Odd predicament. But hey, they do good. They do good. So yeah, same time. Same time as FF7. Just do it.
Starting point is 03:25:46 That wasn't the only delay, though. They also announced over at Square that Marvel's Avengers is also getting pushed back. All right, that's just getting pushed back to the next gen, then. That's a bigger push because that's going from May 15th to September 4th. That sounds like a next gen launch title. Maybe.
Starting point is 03:26:07 Crystal Dee says they're moving the date to September 4th. And bloody, bloody, blah. Bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh. Bleh, bleh, bleh. Nothing much, nothing specific. Fine tuning, polish, et cetera. Yeah, I guess at this point, if it's not attached to any sort of theatrical release, thank God we're out of that phase then.
Starting point is 03:26:33 For now. Who cares? You can do whatever you want. Put it out whenever you want. Whatever. Once I heard that game was a gas, I gave up. They're not going to be done with gas until gas is... Well, gas is a new genre.
Starting point is 03:26:49 That's going to be around for a while. Until gas is no longer profitable, there will always be Squeenix gas. Damn. Or at the very least, that's the impression I got when I was still there. But up, up, up, up. In the meantime, speaking of next gen. Yes. Sony says fuck E3.
Starting point is 03:27:11 Yeah, had somebody tell me that this is less about them trying to push their own event and more apparently they had some kind of falling out with the ESA. Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. What I did see is that, yeah, they're basically going to say... But they didn't do it last year. They didn't do it last year either. So they're not doing it this year and they're instead going to go to hundreds of consumer
Starting point is 03:27:32 events instead. So... Yeah, okay. That's fine. I get it. Just tell me when you're going to show a cool trailer for something and I'll stream it. Let's do that. That's basically how it goes.
Starting point is 03:27:45 Yeah. One less work day during E3. Was last year the first time? Yeah. Yeah. So... E3 has had a trouble. Losing Revolence every day.
Starting point is 03:28:00 Revolence indeed. Yeah. Revolence 1. Oh, god. What was inside the Destiny? What was the new Revelations? Oh, did you? Mega Man.
Starting point is 03:28:11 No, Megan Zero. Megan Zero Collection. Megan Zero Collection. What is the deal? I asked somebody at Capcom. Megan Man. I asked someone, what is the deal? And they never got back to me.
Starting point is 03:28:25 Could you believe it? You know what the deal is. Someone on fucking box duty, sitting there in Photoshop, thinking about lunch. As simple as it seems. Cap... Cap... Capom... That presents...
Starting point is 03:28:43 And that game sucked too. That was for the Steel Battalion Connect game. Megan Man, Zero X, Revelations. Yes. I want to see like Dragon's Dorgma too. You know, like just like fucking hilarious sounding shit. They're the only company that does this that like we latch onto this hard. Because it's always really funny.
Starting point is 03:29:07 And if it's not that, it's fucking Okami getting an IGN watermark on it. I know. So it's always, it's always like meme worthy. It's always strong. So yeah, there's that. Hey, there's a fun one that I never realized was not... I didn't realize this was an issue that I guess never was available in any particular way. But Sega Ages is coming out.
Starting point is 03:29:36 Yeah. With Sonic the Hedgehog 2 featuring Knuckles. Yeah. And it was like, right, that's the version of the game you get when you put the lock on cart. Right. But did that ever get ported anywhere? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:29:54 So now it is. It didn't. No, yeah. You could easily emulate it, no problem. But no, there was never a Sonic 2 of Knuckles. The first one of the game is good. So now you can play Sonic 2 of Knuckles. They did a lot of extra work because you can climb on like chemical plant with Knuckles
Starting point is 03:30:08 in these areas that look like they're infinitely tall, but they're not because there's rains on top of them. Yeah. Apparently the DS had it. Apparently they dropped it on the DS. Okay. Because I was thinking about that for a second. I'm like, yeah, wait, what about those lock on versions?
Starting point is 03:30:20 Because they just, you know, there's Sonic 3 and then you get the full whatever. But yeah, Sonic and Knuckles. It was like, yeah. So I was like, oh, that's a neat thing. Has there ever been a more insanely cool gimmick for a game ever? Hey, do you own the prequels? Do you want to fucking slap those prequels into the cart and get extra characters in your old games? I would say that there hasn't been one as cool since.
Starting point is 03:30:48 It's the raddest concept that never, never went. You know what's all. Okay. No, I got one better. I got one better. Yeah. Yeah. Old EA sports games.
Starting point is 03:31:00 Yeah. Having a controller port. Yeah. In the cartridge. Yeah, that's cool. Fuck you. That's amazing. That's cool.
Starting point is 03:31:08 You want to play multiplayer? You want to get extra controllers in? Plug it into the fucking cartridge. Yeah, that's cool. That was sick. That is cool. Come on. That's that's cool.
Starting point is 03:31:18 Yeah. Yeah. But lock on cartridges are that's a fun era. Even the Sonic 1 1 gave you like bonus levels for the the Sonic 3 mini game. And everything else was just the the mini game. Yeah. Yeah. Sonic 3.
Starting point is 03:31:36 Like, like, like the funnest thing you could do in like future gen is after that was like monster ranch or shit. Yeah. What's up? And then now we have nothing. Yeah, we have nothing. Everything's terrible. Random seed.
Starting point is 03:31:47 Download the DLCs. Random seed. Generator. Boo. And. Fart. How much fun. You know, you can't have that kind of fun anymore.
Starting point is 03:31:55 No, you can't. You're not allowed. You could type in your name and worms and get a stage. Yeah. But. They'll stop you. There's no more like. They'll stop you.
Starting point is 03:32:03 How do you physical? Barcode fucking toy game thing. Come on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. My brain is telling me that there was a series of toys or games that scanned a barcode on any barcode and it used that as a fucking generator for content.
Starting point is 03:32:22 I don't. What was it? Scanners. Scanners. You could scan any barcode on any product. That's stupid. Yeah. That's the kind of shit kids love.
Starting point is 03:32:35 You want to have like something that exists everywhere in your life or suddenly you can find a game version of it. It's AR before AR. Hey, I want to point out I said monster rancher sucks. I'll tell the story again. I got the demo for monster rancher and I put my RE2 copy in the monster rancher and I scanned it and it gave me some bullshit generic fuck and not a zombie from the game and I was like this game sucks.
Starting point is 03:32:58 And that is my experience with monster rancher. That is my entire experience with monster rancher. Did you not get your mochi? No. I thought I was going to put that game in and I'd get to play as like Leon or like the tyrant or something and I didn't. So it sucks. That's it.
Starting point is 03:33:14 I guess you weren't good enough to get transported to a far away land. That's fucking right. To a world where monsters rule. Played the game like an ace. Now you're in this place to save the monsters from the evil move. Sakurai comes out says please look forward to my announcement and the first thing you hear after the cross goes up and lights on fire. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:33:48 Monsters rule. I'll take that. All right. Let's talk about Mr. Sakurai and the fact that on Thursday at 9am Eastern 6am Pacific, the final number five character of the current smash DLC roster will be revealed. And in the in the little little picture in the bottom right Sakurai is giving a conspicuous three symbol with his hand. Fervor is so high that if he is not announced, it will be a disaster.
Starting point is 03:34:30 It will be a disaster, even though it shouldn't be because ultimate is still a ridiculous value. Yeah. Product. But nonetheless, so cannot escape not announcing Dante without damage because it's at a fever pitch and people won't accept it. So it's funny because you can blame one person for this and it's Matt Walker over at Capcom because of his tweet.
Starting point is 03:34:53 Saying, Hey, we got a lot of special things coming up. Check out Mark of calendars and it was Mark of calendars and it was a little Pete. I think it was he did it. And then the deadline. Cry Twitter did it. Whereas like it was a pizza symbol and the dates January 16th and then January 30th and I think February something. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:35:14 There's a devil emoji, a pizza symbol and I think a clown face. Yeah. Right. If you put out that tweet for a goddamn me costume, you guys are dumbasses like because here's the thing. How hard, how quickly can we mod a cloud figure into with a red coat? Here's the thing, right? There is another character could very easily be because it could be the three could be
Starting point is 03:35:41 for Kingdom Hearts three for Sora, but wouldn't it just be Sora period? Who is sure, but who is the number one Japanese pick for the next character? Hmm. Right? Now they're not nearly as popular. Is the three that significant? Well, this game hearts three is the last one out. Certainly.
Starting point is 03:36:00 But I guess DMC three Dante is like the one you'd expect to show up. Yeah. Or maybe it means three characters because it's actually Nero V and Dante. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. You know, or whatever. But or Nero Virgil and Dante.
Starting point is 03:36:16 Yeah. That's right. It's all three. I'm confirming it. Well, I invented the leak just now. There's also the question of like Capcom as a representative versus Square as a representative. Well, I have some friends that are in of the belief that Square can't be it because Square is a fucking stingy with their IPs.
Starting point is 03:36:37 Cloud got two songs. That's stupid. And a stage. Yeah. Yeah. Like, come on. Let's see how many songs everybody else got a lot. I feel like Atlas just gave them the entire 80 songs.
Starting point is 03:36:50 They gave them the entire OST. Yeah. Hero got a shit ton of songs and four character models. Yeah. So yeah. Could it be Gino three? It could be Gino three. That's right.
Starting point is 03:37:05 The third Gino. You know, that one, listen, listen, listen. I honestly, like as excited as I am for Dante and as much as it would be a, it would be a very fun thing for a Devil May Cry reference to show up in Smash Brothers. And at this point again, the game is so full and packed that it just be like, yeah, throw another awesome announcement on the pile. That's rad. Um, I am scared that it won't be because of what will happen and how mad people will get
Starting point is 03:37:36 about that. My favorite, my favorite part, I hope it's Dante just so I can just roll around in Twitter threads of like, just another goddamn sword user always got go who cares to show him again. Who is this Edge Lord? Like Edge Lord? Are you, this man loves his pizzas. Oh, there's a, there's a, there's a fun little tweet that I liked that was, uh, like people excited for Dante and Smash, but fighting game players who have been fighting game
Starting point is 03:38:02 game, dog looking at PTSD, Dante having every move he ever has. Cause why would they, that can't happen in Smash. No, it won't happen in Smash, but they'll find a way to make it still overwhelming. Like Marvel three and Marvel infinite Dante are still insane. Yeah. Um, they would never do that. Even by, even by versus standards, but they would definitely, definitely give him styles to switch through and then force a bunch of, a bunch of extra moves that you otherwise
Starting point is 03:38:33 wouldn't have as a regular character onto him. So you're, you're gonna, he would work like Shulk and his neutral B would be style switch. And then the style switch would change his moveset, changes moveset. Yeah. And it would, and it would just maintain. Yeah. That's pretty much the way to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:38:49 Um, in a game about having a small, a small tight move list, they, they're bringing the move list nonsense God. Yeah. Um, and he'd have, he'd of course have the ability to cancel and combo all of that. But again, um, it's, it is, it is my, my, my excitement for it is again, it's, it's very muted because it's already just such a ridiculous roster and it's, it's turning slowly into nervousness for the, the anger if they fuck that up and drop anything that is not that.
Starting point is 03:39:24 Yeah. If what else is, what is going to be the operative word of Dante something, something's into the battle. I think it has to be the word style, the Dante styles his way into the battle. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unless they have him on a motorcycle, yeah, but it's not style is way more genre. It's his mechanic.
Starting point is 03:39:50 Yeah. It's like, yeah. Dante styles his way in. Um, yeah. And I guess the other thing is like, do you just make it top of the 10 men you grew? Do you make it his office? Where do you go? Do you make it the statues?
Starting point is 03:40:12 I don't know depends what version of Dante we get. I imagine his office is more iconic than that would make a weird shitty stage. It would. The tower is a better looking stage. It's a more exciting stage. Bloody Palace is a visually more exciting stage. So here's what I expect to happen tomorrow. This will be, I mean, this is podcast being recorded on Wednesday, January 15th.
Starting point is 03:40:38 So we're talking about tomorrow, the 16th, I expect Dante to be announced, but because it is so foreshadowed, I expect them to also announce at least one character that is coming in the next batch of DLC. So Dante would come out like next week or something and they'll be like, you remember they did the banjo because that's the only way during a Nintendo event. You can actually get a real surprise is go like Dante's in the cutscene and then something else. Someone else steps behind and goes, I got this, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 03:41:14 Here's the question. Do you think that it would be, would it be acceptable, would people be happier if people that only appear as me costumes instead were stages? Yeah, I'd much prefer that. So a game with no characters can still be a stage. I think that would go over well. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:41:41 Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, it just, it just hit my mind. Just hit my mind. What it is, get your halo stage, get your doom stage is, is Dante and hit Dante's smash ball as he turns into like EDT's and he becomes a stronger version. Yeah. And then it zooms out to like Dante, like, you know, the CG like under a Castlevania cutscene.
Starting point is 03:42:04 You remember that one and Dante's doing all demon shit. And then you just hear and it's a chainsaw and out cause he looks at, he looks at Dante and it's doom guy because that's a demon. That's a demon. No. He gets hit from the back with a Gino world. Oh, you're right. I'd be so much cooler.
Starting point is 03:42:29 And it says 9 9 9 9. It's the only way to do it. No, but for real. If doom guy comes in, I want him to come in and be like, no, no, no, no, and like it's guy. I mean, doom guy rips and tears his way into the into the fray or whatever, you know, rips his way in. If they, it would have to be sanitized doom guy.
Starting point is 03:42:52 Yeah. Just no blood, just no blood. Bloodless doom guy. Yeah. Overmaster chief. I love doom guy so much. I know. But I like him so much and I and I and I and other people clearly do too, but you sound
Starting point is 03:43:08 a bit like Kenny and Steve asking for scorpion and smash. You're right. It's so. Yeah. You know what? Scorpion and smash. Totally ridiculous. Now.
Starting point is 03:43:20 It's not. It's really not. It's not. It's not. But Terry Bogard's Japanese man. Yeah. Like there's something. Here's what it is, I guess.
Starting point is 03:43:31 You know what it always is? I guess it's that it just feels like something Western has less of a shape. It does feel that way. And now let's look at the roster and see how many Western references are in that banjo with a bullet. And are we done? Red Leeds is a captain. No.
Starting point is 03:43:50 No. No. You're right. You're right. Banjo. That's it. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 03:43:58 Western characters not only don't mean as much. So we're due for one. Western characters don't mean as much to Japan and they also just don't have as much of a shot. Yeah. But we're due for one though. Yeah. Donkey Kong but not really because it's Donkey Kong and then Kay Rool is, you know, it's yeah.
Starting point is 03:44:14 But yeah, we're due, sure. Okay. Okay. But okay. Who would you... Hey. Hey. It's not a hard rule that there's no Western.
Starting point is 03:44:23 It just feels like... These mass conversations are getting dumber and dumber. They are. They are terrible. Because I get really excited and then I buy the character and I download it and play them for five minutes and I go, yeah. Solaire is Japanese. I was about to say Solaire.
Starting point is 03:44:34 He has a bigger shot. I was about to ask you. Solaire has a bigger shot because Miyazaki is a couple metro stations away. So Dante is like doing his lightning stuff and then a lightning bolt comes off screen and hits him and then as he's doing this and you're like, look how close Toby Fox got and he still didn't get in. Western shit is not, like Sakurai needs to like... People are pointing out that Solaire also already has an amiibo.
Starting point is 03:45:05 Yeah. Like Sakurai needs to basically be able to go have Udon with you and then talk shop and fucking figure it out. But I don't know. I don't know. It's just anytime someone throws out a big old Western character, I just go like, come on. That doesn't feel like it when they'd go for it.
Starting point is 03:45:30 But you never know. You never know. But it just doesn't feel like it. I might get blown up tomorrow. Nathan Drake. Fucking what? Okay Google. Set an alarm for 8.30 a.m.
Starting point is 03:45:43 All right, I'll see you guys on stream tomorrow for that one then. Fuck it. Fuck it. If there's even a 1% chance I see Solaire or Doom Man, I must be there. You see that fucking trailer for Morbius, bro? Oh, I'm really happy. I'm really happy that the trailer for Morbius did the thing I love where it goes 3, 2, 1 Morbius trailer now.
Starting point is 03:46:19 Well, what movie am I watching the trailer for? I don't know. I scrolled past it on Twitter and I couldn't read the name. I don't know what it is. You know what the funniest thing about Morbius is? Is that the Fox kids, standards and practices people were like, okay, you can have Morbius on the TV show with the Spider-Man, but you can't show him drinking blood because that's fucked up and is violent.
Starting point is 03:46:41 No blood in the show. So they're like, okay, what about these nightmarish handsuckers that are a million times more traumatizing than just biting your neck and drinking your blood? They're like, yeah, the hands are fine. And now every time I think about Michael Morbius, the living vampire, all I can think of is like, man, those handsuckers were terrible and no other version of the character has that. Yeah, he's just a vampire, man.
Starting point is 03:47:07 See, the problem, well, here's the thing. The promise years ago was that we were going to get a Sinister Six movie as well as spin-offs for all of Spider-Man's villains. And that thankfully did not happen, but slowly it's starting again. But this time around, the stakes are higher than ever because do you watch this trailer? I did watch the trailer. Do you see how it ended? I did see how it ended.
Starting point is 03:47:30 That's the big discussion point that everybody fucking hates now. What's that? Is the end of this trailer has a cameo and a certain fucking vulture from homecoming is talking shit to Michael Morbius and you're like, Michael Keaton, but that means... That means MCU guy. Did you see that in the background shot of Michael Morbius walking down a alley? You can see a painting of Spider-Man with the tag murderer put over it? No.
Starting point is 03:48:08 I didn't see that. They're making this an MCU canon film despite it not being made by Marvel. Yeah, we're playing the trailer and I just saw it. So does this mean then could this be the venomous canon? Well, the deal that Marvel made to make everything good again or rather to work with Sony again involved in forcing their shit into the canon because venom might be canon now if this is all its other world because that's that if you're stupid, Spider-Man is on a wall in the background.
Starting point is 03:48:42 Yeah, even if he's not in the movie, clearly, the PS4 Spider-Man photo of the rainy car costume. Okay. That's fucking lame. But it's a picture of Spider-Man in a movie that you would you think would pretend he didn't exist. Whatever. Venom is so canon.
Starting point is 03:49:01 It's forcing its way in. Now Venom's got to go hang out with Spider-Man and and what's the actor's name? The guy who played the venom Eddie Brockman, Mad Max man. Um, Ed Hardy. Ed Hardy has to use his worst American accent ever to get angry at Peter Parker. Do you think it's possible that Tom Hardy, whatever, Tom Hardy, excuse me, Ed Hardy's the clothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:49:31 Do you think it's possible that this is a non reciprocal relationship? It does seem that way, doesn't it? Were these movies not unlike the, the Netflix Marvel universe? These are going to be called Spider-Man legends in a few years. Do you think it's possible that they're just going to be like, we're referencing you and MC is like, that's fine. Okay. That's okay.
Starting point is 03:49:56 How bad. Yeah. Like, and then they'll have a situation where they're talking to Dr. Strange and they'll be like, Dr. Strange, have you ever met a vampire and he'll be like, no. And then he'll look at the camera because vampires aren't real and that's stupid. And then he'll look away from the camera and then he'll throw a walkman on the floor and it looks. You ever see, you ever see, um, um, that clip of, uh, uh, that clip of LeVar Burton waiting
Starting point is 03:50:35 off stage to try and get Shatner's attention. It's him waiting off stage to try and get Shatner's attention at a con and Shatner wants nothing to do with it. What the hell? And it's like, it's one of those things where like, it was, I feel like it was bookended by the clip of him, of him going, um, oh, oh, I'm sorry. I understand what you're looking for, but I have a mission that I need to do right now. I don't need to thank LeVar Burton's like, I have a mission that I must complete and
Starting point is 03:51:12 first I need to do it and you're like, no, no, that's not it or whatever. So it's just like, it's this thing of like, you have one person trying to interact with him and he's like, yeah, okay, buddy. Sure. Anyway. Hey, but Shatner though, and Shatner wants nothing. It's that, that's MCU to, to S. The difference is the LeVar Burton is genuinely fantastic.
Starting point is 03:51:32 Sure. It's not. The point is, it's Jordy LaForge trying to get Kirk's attention. No, you know what it is and Kirk wants, you know what it is all to do with it. Sony walks into that fucking frat party and all the Marvel MCU people are all those sorority girls that turn towards the camera in that photo where they're all like, uh, I think, I think Marvel can probably agree to a one way relationship. You can reference us.
Starting point is 03:52:09 We won't reference you. It is what it is. You can do whatever you want, but we're not giving you shit. Talk about us. Show our shit. We can be a news anchors like box next to their head. You can show a clip from an end game if you want. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:52:25 Why not? Cool. We're not at the beginning of every MCU movie. They're going to go, Hey, Thor, whatever happened to Sony and Thor will be like, I don't even know what a Sony is. You're extended. Back to Fortnite. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:52:41 You don't exist. You do not exist in this world, but Fortnite exists in that world. It sure does. And Palpatine exists in Fortnite. That's sure. True. Therefore Disney. You know, do you remember a long time ago on Parks and Rec when Patton Oswald connected
Starting point is 03:52:55 all of it fucking showed up connected all of it did this insane rant about Star Wars and Marvel shit and then the Millennium Falcon shows up and how like that's getting closer and closer and closer and it's dumb. That bit was amazing. Good job, Patton. Kingdom Hearts and Smash Brothers coexisting is already that. If Sora gets in and he doesn't have an alternate that's just Mickey Mouse, everyone fucked up like his alternate character is just Mickey Mouse.
Starting point is 03:53:29 Like a different model, like hero. Wouldn't it turn him into one of the other Kingdom Hearts kids? I don't care. I just want Mickey Mouse in that fucking game. Yeah, but you think they just turned Sora into Mickey? They have the same moves. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:53:42 Okay. You think Disney would be okay with that? No. They fucked up. Which is why that I say if it's so it gets in and not Mickey Mouse, then everyone screwed up. Just sneak him in. Fuck it.
Starting point is 03:53:54 No one will notice. Hey, you know how Street Fighter V has bad netcode? Oh, man. I almost sent you a message when this dropped going, I can't wait to talk to you about this on the podcast. You know how Street Fighter V has bad netcode? I sure do know that, Willie. It's a complicated situation.
Starting point is 03:54:09 It sure is. Because Street Fighter V's bad netcode is not a result of it being delay based like every other fighting game. It's a situation where the fact that it was done bad is the problem. It is rollback. It is bad rollback. Yes. I rollback as you will.
Starting point is 03:54:26 We were having some conversation I was listening to somewhere. I forget what triggered it, but something made me think. What if a fan, it was, I think it was, I think it was, I was thinking about oddity and fan made stuff. And then I thought about like somehow a fan did something recently and I was like, what if someone fixed the netcode in Street Fighter V before Capcom did? Let me roll you back further for context. Do you remember a long time ago when Street Fighter V came out and it didn't properly
Starting point is 03:54:54 support many arcade sticks, particularly PS3 arcade sticks? Yes. Do you remember when Mike Z went online and said, hey, I made this free 35 lines of code? Whatever the fuck it is. Yep. You just plug the fuck in. It's common license. Yep.
Starting point is 03:55:12 It's open source. Yep. In your game and all these arcade sticks will work perfectly. If your fighting game does not support old sticks, it's because they don't want to. And then Capcom went, cool. That's really cool. Plug into it and then nothing ever happened. No, they did.
Starting point is 03:55:27 They did add it. You can use old sticks, legacy sticks on Street Fighter V. Did they use that or did they make up their own solution? I think they made their own, but I don't know. And that's where I'm getting at. There was a video that Max put out a few days ago, it was last week, in which it was a compilation cut of a stream in which he was trying to remember a term. And Maximilian remembered the term is, did not invent.
Starting point is 03:55:52 And it is a business concept that everybody in this room is familiar with, which is, well, we didn't invent rollback net code. Or we didn't invent the fix to rollback net code. But it's a quality of life feature and or it is a necessary feature. We did not invent this feature, therefore, we'll have to either reinvent it ourselves or nothing. So all this, all this, all this, right, is you have hold start to fucking pause, all the shit I talk about, pause, training mode, not invented here.
Starting point is 03:56:24 That's tapped to input buttons, configs, all that shit, but net code means people cannot play properly when they play or fight each other on or what, excuse me, online. And I thought to myself, you know, I wonder if a fan who would do this and then literally the next day, I saw tweets, tweets, retweet a thing that was just like, yo, Reddit slash Street Fighter, some guy took the source code, looked at it and went, oh yeah, that's the problem. Found it, found the problem, fix it in two days, uploaded it. All you got to do is drop this into your Street Fighter five folder on steam and now your net
Starting point is 03:57:00 code and rollback work perfectly. So I want to describe the actual problems Street Fighter five has because it's it's important before we get into why this is more complicated than you would think. Street Fighter five has rollback net code problem is for whatever reason, the rollback is all one sided or has the very likely potential to become all one sided, which means one person will have a perfect lag free experience that will be immaculate. And the other person will have some bullshit, teleporting fucking rewind garbage, artificial lag.
Starting point is 03:57:36 Yeah. They'll have shit, they'll have lag that's not actually happening because they're trying to reference the simulated game that they're trying to reference the neutral simulated game. Yeah. Only one person's end is doing that properly. Yeah. So there's basically a clock desync between both players is the is the small description
Starting point is 03:58:01 of it. And you can go to the Reddit that I've linked to in the in the docket and read the description as posted by Altamore on the Street Fighter Reddit and they just it's a very, very basic like here's the download. Here's the source code instructions extracted to the folder. Why is it needed? This is why it's needed because of this bug. Does the other player need it to have the fix as well?
Starting point is 03:58:28 No. If you don't have the fix, it's still they can still experience the bug. Yeah. Basically, when when you have it and your opponent has it, it becomes much, much, much more like you're both stable for them. Yes. That they're the one to eat all the lag. Yes.
Starting point is 03:58:44 And then the final paragraph section is called fix your shit cap clown. And it says this took over two days to make this thing, no, this took a bit over two days to make. Capcom hasn't patched the bug for four years. It's been known. I mean, Mike Z was tweeting about the bug existing in the beta. Yep. It was most of the most of that was reverse engineering.
Starting point is 03:59:02 It would take more like 30 minutes if with the source code, Mike Z made a tweet pinpointing the cause of the bug during beta. And that's the that's the post. That's it. That's the tweet. Yeah. So what's the deal? So the deal is really simple, right?
Starting point is 03:59:17 And I and I and again, there there is a I want to say Keats was the one who said this, but it was like there's people going like, man, lazy devs. What the fuck? It's like, and I think he said something to the effect of that. It's not devs. It's not lazy devs. It is that this is a low list issue on the priorities of the person who's in charge of deciding what issues to fix.
Starting point is 03:59:41 And I'm like, looking at a QA database, remembering those days, remembering what was listed as WNF will not fix remembering what was listed as D prioritized. That is absolutely what it feels like. Yeah. And it's because of a situation which was perfectly exemplified by one of the Redditors on the best friends Reddit Reddit, who I pulled out and went, sir, you nailed it. I'm going to screenshot your exact point because you killed it. This is by a fan named pro dumpster fire in the thread about this topic last week.
Starting point is 04:00:23 Good name. I'm actually living in Japan right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I play SF five with cheap apartment Wi-Fi. I've only had one bad match in the last three weeks. It is the best experience playing Street Fighter five I have ever had. And that's why it's D prioritized.
Starting point is 04:00:40 Yeah. Because when you live in the country, it works perfectly. It's a little bit. It's different from too lazy to do it, right? Because it's. Wait, what's the problem? It's not a big deal. It is just it is not listed as a high.
Starting point is 04:00:55 And that is what happens when you're not fully in touch. But at the same time, who was it? Was it? Oh, no. Who tweeted something to the effect of message heard loud and clear guys. Sorry. Yeah. Because everyone tweeted to blow.
Starting point is 04:01:13 Stop bothering me. Everyone tweeted to say, hey, look, someone did this type of thing. You know? Yeah, it really is. It really is wild. Like and it's interesting how the timing of this goes perfectly hand in hand with that whole back to block netcode video. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:01:28 Because in it, like the description as to how like Street Fighter five does have rollback. It's just not implemented. It's bad. And it's like, oh, but if that's the case, that means that you can make it work. And it's like, yes, you can. And they just won't. You can go watch side by side videos uploaded now of matches between two people and literally see the difference between pre and post patch.
Starting point is 04:01:52 And it's fucking night night working. Yeah. You can play Street Fighter five online. Yep. And there's not, there's no in the same way to say in the same thread. There was an example of a developer that was actually even more out of touch with their online infrastructure than Capcom. And that was from software.
Starting point is 04:02:16 Mm hmm. That was Dark Souls three that had this prioritization. Here were the matchmaking regions for online Japan, fair enough, America, which was the top of the Arctic Circle to the bottom of South America and everywhere else on the planet. Those were your three matchmaking regions. So when you play from software games online in Japan, it's a very different experience than playing anywhere else. That's insane.
Starting point is 04:03:02 It sure is. Okay. Uh, how do you even plan that anyway, um, show me, I want to see the fucked up map where Japan's really big in the center, right? And then it's like the inverse Mercator projection and like all the other countries are like there's a little circle far away. I mean, it's come up a bunch, right? This week we've talked about, like I've had to reference QA things a couple of times.
Starting point is 04:03:31 Yeah. But I think what this makes me feel, especially when you're thinking about priority, right? And it basically, I'm like, there's a program called Test Track Pro, a lot of places use it as their bug tracker, but other people have different things. But if you were to export that database to an Excel file and send it to me, right? Show me the database of bugs and I can tell you the entire story of development. Yeah. You can see a B rank listed bug is a Minot skirt flap gets stuck in her hip on crouching
Starting point is 04:04:08 low kicks or whatever. And then C minus class bug is Internet don't work in the 95% of the planet. Originally reported as S class. Yeah. Go into the bug, go into the comments, see the update, see the attempted fix, fix failed, regression, fix failed. Right from dev, reprioritizing now low priority now D rank bug. Right.
Starting point is 04:04:42 I can, I can tell you the story of the game's development. Yeah. Just seeing that and going in and seeing what, what that looks like, because it, it, it says a lot about like, it says a lot about the way the game's being made always, right? But when you are making a sequel to something that already knows what it's aiming for, it's especially weird and strange when the people that are like able to look at previous things as reference points, don't use those as goalposts. It's really bizarre because I mean, we've been talking about the fighting game netcode
Starting point is 04:05:14 thing on and off for like two, three, four months now, right? It keeps coming back up with the guilty gear with this, with that. And it's an extra special case in the game biz because I can't think of any other situation in which it occurred this way. There's lots of times where you're like, well, I think the destiny should be like this. And they go, well, we don't have the money to fucking do it. Or you know, we don't have the resources or you get, I don't think this game should have the steel.
Starting point is 04:05:37 So, you know, whatever. All sorts of things. This is not that. Right? This is not that. This is, you guys are talented. Clearly. Everybody who works at that company is, is clearly very talented and you've made great
Starting point is 04:05:47 stuff and you continue to make great stuff. You just refuse to even look at it. You just refuse to look at it once and fix it. It's, you know, it's a refusal to improve. It's not an inability. It's a refusal. And that's why it's extra infuriating, especially for, oh, you just saw something good. Please look forward to the championship edition release, which will patch this exploit out
Starting point is 04:06:47 No frustrating because do you remember all the time? I mean, you spoke with dice game about a guilty gear and about, you know, changing this or changing there. We want to get a bigger audience, right? And it's like, you know how you would get a bigger audience right away if you made it to the people in various countries could play the game. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 04:07:10 Shouting out a wall. You could, and, and they go, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And there, there, there it goes. Yeah. I think one of the biggest things people want to know is like, they want to know how much shit is heard and then what those discussions look like internally, because after four years, it's impossible that it's not, well, I can't tell you about these conversations because
Starting point is 04:07:36 I don't know. Yeah. Then I'm not even telling you because you already know what I'm going to say. Yeah. If you could see the inside of many of these conversations, you would tear your fucking hair out because it is infuriating and it is so stupid because it is people who are talented and intelligent, just going, nah, I don't want to listen. Nah.
Starting point is 04:07:58 But when? Nah, nah, nah. But everyone asking for something is one thing, but when they do it themselves and this gets released and it's out there and too late, you're fucking clown shoes now. Well, yeah, because what are they going to do? You know what they're going to do, Willie? They're going to patch it so that this patch doesn't work anymore and it goes back to the way it was.
Starting point is 04:08:21 Did you not listen to what I was laughing at five minutes ago? What do you mean? You know how? Oh, oh, I misunderstood. I misunderstood what you meant. This exploit has been, oh my God. Yeah, no, they're totally going to do that. What did you think I meant?
Starting point is 04:08:34 I thought you were referring to an old bug that was in a version I didn't realize you were talking. No, I was laughing at the idea of Capcom releasing Seth and patching this fix out of the working gear. No, they're going to do that. 100%. That's exactly what they're going to do. They're going to re-break it.
Starting point is 04:08:51 That's why I was like, anyway. So yeah, I really do. I put money down. That's absolutely going to happen. I don't know. We'll see. Internally, like this is beyond embarrassing. And you have to imagine that any pushes to action that have not happened to this point.
Starting point is 04:09:11 When you look at it like this, this is now a whatever the game gets touched next, right? If it does not include this or something similar, it's beyond outrageous because now it's there. It's already in. It's there, right? And like you cannot, I guess, what am I trying to say? Yelling at a building in the hopes that someone in there will hear you, right? You never know. Like maybe that window is open, but you don't know if that, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 04:09:48 Like you're yelling and you don't know if they hear you, right? But now it's like, no, you found the guy on his the way to his car and like you said it to him and he looked at you. And said it back to you and went, huh? And then he got in his car and drove away. So like you have confirmation of delivery because either the read receipt has been received. You know, like either they do absolutely nothing, which would be baffling, right? Because that's the only way you would or they remove it, which means, you know, they know
Starting point is 04:10:17 it improved it. And they said, no, no, we do things our way out here. No matter what you do, this corners, it's, it's a, it's forced, it's forced the question. Yes. This is, this is a, it corners you, right? You have three choices. You do, you implement your own version of this immediately. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:10:38 You just use this or you do nothing or slash ignore it slash remove it. All right. So I'm going to tell you right now and I'm sure you agree. There's no way in God's green earth that this version of the thing is what they're going to use. They will make their own. They'll make their own or not, but like there's no way, but you, but you understand what it like the hand is forced now at the very least on the level of people that are paying attention
Starting point is 04:11:10 to this type of stuff, you know, cause those, those that day of when mega man cross street fighter got like officially sanctioned or whatever, that was cool. That was a one and fucking done. That was a one and done, you know, fans don't get to decide how these things roll out. So your move says all Timor in two days, fix your shit, clap, clap, cap, clown. I wish, I wish you were able to just get one of the systems engineers, you know, somebody who would be involved and just get to talk to them like a normal person for like 10 minutes. You know, just be like, dude, what the fuck?
Starting point is 04:11:55 Just be able to go to somebody, a human and go, dude, what the fuck? It's almost a miracle that this even used rollback to begin with. Yeah. And they didn't just go delayed based because of comfort, right? Scary new world of rollback uncomfortable. We don't want to. Me now as they go, well, nobody liked our net code. So back to delay, but thank God they did at least go this route enough that the solution
Starting point is 04:12:21 can be displayed for everyone to see. And then you go, no, you just, it was you. It wasn't the, it wasn't the code. It was you. And this is how you do it and now it's done. So now just do it to make your game work and then you don't have to have this problem ever again until the next time that your move, it's so frustrating. It is.
Starting point is 04:12:47 It is. It is a I'm getting really ready to get super mad at fighting games for a good long. You already did. You already did. You said it the last I know, but like, this is so infuriating, this is check. It's not checkmate, but this is check. Move your move. This makes the big man.
Starting point is 04:13:03 Move your king out of the fucking way, bro. Anyway, I got to be like this, be. That's another hour. Yeah, it is. Let's take some letters. Let's take some letters. If you want to send in a letter, hey, hustles, some cool hustles, send it into a Castle Super Beast mail at gmail.com.
Starting point is 04:13:27 That's Castle Super Beast mail gmail.com. Hustles are welcome scams or not. Yeah, that's right. No dick pills. It's big enough. Thank you. Hustles involve for the most part, no one gets hurt. Yeah, you just make the come up.
Starting point is 04:13:45 Yeah, scams get a lot of people hurt. Somebody has to get hurt in a scam. It's like the like that's my mental definition breakdown. I don't respect the scam. No, I do respect the hustle. Yeah. Josh says they're Super Castle brothers. I cannot sense stand senthip no matter what the context.
Starting point is 04:14:05 I avoid games that censor themselves as much as possible. In the example, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, many costumes and details of the characters and even dialogue were changed to fit better with the West. What should I care? Why should I care about a game if the people making it or publishing it don't care enough to keep their vision whole? Am I crazy or is this hashtag relatable? I feel like you don't understand what the word censorship actually means.
Starting point is 04:14:28 Somebody's allowed to change their work as much as they desire. Censorship means that the government is coming down on you and saying that you can't say that or do that or display that or whatever. So what do you call it when they go from a cleavage to no cleavage? And in terms of, say, Tokyo Mirage, yeah, where's it coming from? From the parents internally internally. Internally, yeah, that's not censorship. That's a choice that's a localization change.
Starting point is 04:14:56 Self censorship. Sure, whatever. But self censorship isn't censorship. Censorship is an incredibly specific term that everybody misuses constantly. It's infuriating. All right, so let's call it self censorship. Sure. How do you feel about self censorship? Fucking complain to the devs, I guess.
Starting point is 04:15:13 But you look like a baby. I don't like it. I think. If it's hard, if it's pretty harmless in the end and if it's an over sensitive reaction to your expected target audience, for the most part, it's there's situations where if it's over the top, like you can see the you can see the darkening of the asshole. Yeah, then that's one thing.
Starting point is 04:15:43 But if you're dealing with a Orihime has a wedding dress and this version stops here where there's some local there's cleavage and this version, we got to put her in a turtleneck. I kind of find that silly because it's almost like you're pointing out something and going, this is protect the children from the the neck. And I just it kind of feels like it's all right. So here's here's here's my take on that, particularly. Let's take.
Starting point is 04:16:11 Jury from SF five. Sure, who appears to in her original costume, being like a latex body suit that had lots of big old cleavage and exposed legs and whatnot, right, which got replaced by black latex covering those bits. And there are a lot of people go, I can't believe they censored jury, you know, covered her up or, you know, the Tokyo Mirage Sessions one has characters that have boob windows that are just covered in cloth. That's sorry, I know you didn't get to your point yet,
Starting point is 04:16:39 but like the jury thing is more of just a costume change. That's not at all right. Let's say it's more so if you want to keep it in that realm. It's more so no default Armeca costume allowed on on main stage. Well, I mean, the example used is Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I mean, I've seen some of these changes. They're like the leggings go higher, so there's less thigh or the boob window gets covered in cloth, so it looks like a complete shirt with no cleavage
Starting point is 04:17:05 or right or something like that, or the neck is a little higher. The devs chose to do that because of a million possible reasons. There's a reason that, but modesty is usually the one. I would think that one of the reasons that people never actually like internalize or even think about is that part of the reason for those designs in the first place is because they're catering to an otaku degenerate sex pervert audience. Sure.
Starting point is 04:17:37 And then maybe want to clean it up when they can. That's possible. I'm not even saying that's even common, but if. But in that case, the original version would have been censored to add more titty. But but regardless of that. Yeah. Let's take a character that had a big old slutty boob window. See all them, them Tiddos and they cut, you know, that's now cloth.
Starting point is 04:18:02 So you see the shape of the Tiddos, but you don't see the the the flesh of the Tiddos and it's these idle characters in your anime game. I cannot possibly take seriously the idea that anyone would look at that and go, I can't believe they would steal my wife who tells. No, that I will not buy it. This is a moral crime. All right. So straw man aside, right?
Starting point is 04:18:31 This person literally said they would not buy it because that's yeah. And that that person is ridiculous. As is anybody who is on the extremes of those viewpoints. Right. Yeah. If you grab any person that is like on the wild ass fringes of their outrage, then you're going to get that ridiculous. Well, sure. The problem with this is that every time this happens, the people on that fringe
Starting point is 04:18:52 are the ones that you actually see. So like the tone I take on this, which is as far from that as possible, is one where I look at it and I as somebody who nine times out of 10 prefers like tomboyish looking girls that don't necessarily have designs that cater in that way. And I look at things like the Sanran Kagura designs and big old titi flops and it's kind of just goofy. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:19:22 I feel that way most of the time when I see those designs. However, once it's out there, I see the change slash like like audience, like like like the like West needs a different version of this thing as a like it feels like a strange morality play when you didn't have it to begin with. And it feels hollow. Right. If you wanted to make that character design that way from the jump, and it's probably one that I possibly would prefer, I get it.
Starting point is 04:19:52 And I'm like, go for it. But when you clearly don't have that interest in mind, but you just make a switch so that you can region lock your pervy, whatever. It's funny because it just looks so silly. Fire Emblem thing is really, really interesting as a microcosm because you remember Awakening and Fates had those fucking rub the person's head. Fucking shits. You know, rub your character, rub your waifu mini games.
Starting point is 04:20:15 I don't. OK, they did. OK. And it had all that, you know, baby shit, supposedly half the team fucking despised it. OK. And the other half of the team was like, yeah, no, we got to get them titties in there. And like that team is in flux over that shit. Yeah. All the time.
Starting point is 04:20:34 Now, I like here's the thing. There's definitely examples out there where I'm like, look, there's a fucking super weird mini game in Ultra Despair Girls where like after establishing only fates. All right. I think we call it. Yeah, the term we used was elementary abuse. Chan, cool, was a character. And then there's a mini game where you have to more or less recreate her abuse.
Starting point is 04:21:00 Sick. And it's like, what are you going for here? Right? What they're going for? Yeah, it's it's super fucking weird, right? In its tone. There's things like that where it's like this was from the jump, a terrible idea. Yeah. But there's definitely and I think everything has its own specific context that you need to judge it on.
Starting point is 04:21:22 And I think that is definitely one far cry away from we need the turtleneck on Ori or an Ori Bay, right? And I also have to ask, are you actually referring to a real turtleneck? Yeah, OK. She has a wedding dress. It's cut like a normal wedding dress. And then they replaced it with her neck being all white so that the wedding dress goes up to her turtleneck. It goes up to the bottom of her neck.
Starting point is 04:21:46 What's the character's name? Ori Hime. Ori Hime. No. Yeah. Or yeah. No. Am I thinking of bleach on that? I think I fucked up. Subasa. Subasa. Subasa. Yeah. Fireball.
Starting point is 04:21:59 There we go. And there's a couple of there's a couple of other ones that have these little weird things where they touch it in his ways, right? But I'm like, there's just in the general, there's ways where you can there's times when you can clearly see that it's like. Oh, so we're going to we're going to do a core values style cut in on on a game like Dead or Alive in a moment where clearly the people making it had one intention.
Starting point is 04:22:29 You have another. You want to pretend it's different from what it is. And oh, my God, these photos are hilarious. Are they they're the side by side? They're these minor changes with this big fat sensor. Yeah. And it's like I'm like I here. No, here's it doesn't have to be the screaming. You ruined my waifu thing.
Starting point is 04:22:48 It can definitely be the come on, guys. What are you doing? You know, that's how I feel about it. And that's how I feel like the sensible version of the discussion goes. Don't listen to anybody that's screaming about their ruined waifus because that's goofy. And that's the only people who are talking. And I don't I'm talking about it right now.
Starting point is 04:23:05 No, I mean, this person is literally talking about it. You know, and there's and like us, like we laugh at core values because it's like, so where is the line? What is this arbitrary line on what's OK? I'm not OK. And, you know, my Shira Nui's got too many bounties. And, you know, there's all kinds of weird little plays where you're like. I get if you don't want your elementary abuse, Chan, minigame in the game.
Starting point is 04:23:30 I think it's a weird morality play when you're when you're when you're trimming up the thighs. Yeah, whatever. I they can do what they want. Sure. But I just I think it looks hollow and silly. What do you mean? They just like why are you assigning like a moral value to this? It could be as simple as somebody going, yeah, let's let's clean it up for the US release, because I'm embarrassed that we hypersexualized this 14 year old so much
Starting point is 04:23:55 because at the same time, right? Well, when you again, go to the when you go to the the 14 year old extremes, you and you get like, yeah, you're heading into that weird territory where how old is the character you just mentioned? Subasa, I'm not sure. Like, yeah, exactly. Yeah. But it's it's up that it's up. It's within that range, certainly.
Starting point is 04:24:14 It's in that range, certainly. But it's not always going to be like that. It's not always that cut and dry, I suppose. And I think that, like, yeah, they can do those things for the West. But I also think that, like, again, it almost shows. It's not the feeling you're you're putting on them where there's like, they're like, oh, let's clean this up. It's like, no, they don't feel that way.
Starting point is 04:24:36 I'm not putting that on them. I'm saying it's a possibility. OK, because the people who complain always assume that it's over some possible moral panic over Western audiences or some shit. Or maybe the game won't sell as well if it has all the titties in it or whatever, which is nonsense. No, are she's aged up and no game would ever no game would ever sell worse because of the Tiddos, right? Everybody likes titties, right?
Starting point is 04:25:00 But. I have a serious problem with. The way this question, this email was originally formed. OK, and and that because you say all you keep talking about the people crying about their waifus, right? It's like, yes, 99% of the time when there is some massive kerfuffle about censorship in games, it is nearly exclusively about a Japanese game where the waifus, bounciness or ages have been changed for the West
Starting point is 04:25:31 to make it less overtly creepy. Are you familiar with the game Devotion? Oh, was that the Barry, my child? No, Devotion is the sequel. No, that's concession. It's a pseudo sequel to a game called Detention is made by a Taiwanese developer called Red Candles in Devotion, which is a fantastic game that you could buy on Steam for like two days.
Starting point is 04:25:52 There is a tiny little hidden message calling the Prime Minister of China a Winnie the Pooh, that company had its business license revoked and the game had to get fucking pulled from shelves and you can't buy it any more ever. That's censorship. And I have seen a million people scream and cry that the cleavage on this minor got cut in their anime, make the girl pregnant game on the Vita. And I've seen comparatively few complain about what is actually censorship.
Starting point is 04:26:26 And I therefore cannot take this kind of question seriously at all, because it always sounds like my titty game, though. But didn't we clarify it within about a sentence or two, the difference between censorship and self-censorship? Yeah, because getting China'd is a super fucked situation. That is not the same thing. And it's the thing that no one complains about. But that's why.
Starting point is 04:26:47 But at the very least, if you. But here's the thing, right? If you want to attempt to understand, like someone who's has a reasonable point of view, you can't assume it's the completely unreasonable way the entire time. All right. So if they're not, if like what they're thinking of is, let's say, the term self censorship, but they're not correctly using the term, then you can just describe the correct term in the discussion.
Starting point is 04:27:11 All right, fine. I will de-straw man myself and then say, I don't believe choosing to buy a game or not or watch a movie or not over minor costume alterations is reasonable. I think it's ridiculous. I think it is on the level of, but Sonic's arms aren't blue man. Like it's the most minor deal possible. Unless the theme of Fire Emblem Tokyo Mirage Sessions
Starting point is 04:27:43 is that idols wear low cut dresses or some shit, or that is some way actually important. It's fucking stupid. I agree that it's completely minor. I 100 percent agree with you on that. And there is a threshold to which it's even worth discussing. And there's a point at which it becomes not worth discussing
Starting point is 04:28:06 because it's so minor. But I think if we're looking at it on the table, especially on the basis of the sky's question, it's the same as when you look at. Anytime a movie goes different places and has changes made to it in different ways. And I'm not going for the Star Wars. No, you're talking edits, redubs and things like that, right?
Starting point is 04:28:27 And you kind of are drawn to try and figure out what the intention was behind this. And if it's a updated release globally, that is like, no, this is what I wanted it to be. And this is that, you know, then that's one thing. But when it becomes sort of a region specific thing, I always get a little bit like, OK, so this is what you think this. You think this is what plays here.
Starting point is 04:28:49 And what you originally want to do is displayed by your original release, you know? And I think that maybe, maybe, likely could be time. Who knows? But I think that if it wasn't and if they wanted things to sort of like play or reflect a little differently, slash, you know, update their tone, then it would probably be a global update
Starting point is 04:29:13 as opposed to a region. I think that looking at content like this and screaming from the rooftops about the artist's original intent being sacred, definitely not screaming. No, not you. But like, you know, like, you got to keep it like when it's like in many cases, I assume these people don't give a fuck at one way or the other. They're literally just putting what will sell or help sell in their region.
Starting point is 04:29:37 Yeah, because I think I think I think again, when you grab both sides of the slider and you have one side is Butma titties, though, and the other side is ban those titties. Like the other side is fuck off. It's creepy, right? And you're like, yeah, you know what? Both of these are ridiculous. And being reasonable is probably somewhere
Starting point is 04:29:57 in the middle where people actually feel in a lot of cases that are not these wild Twitter screamers and Reddit screamers, where you're like it's it's it's literally be putting my hand up and going. What? You know, and that's about the end of the gesture. That's about the end of the thought. And at the end of the day, it affects nothing in the game. I mean, I could I could break this down in an even simpler degree.
Starting point is 04:30:20 Who gives a shit? Yeah, you sound like a baby, which is what I think I said at the very beginning, like. It doesn't matter. Yeah, the things that you're complaining about don't matter. When you're talking censorship, let's talk about plot. Let's talk about themes. Let's talk about the characters, races or ages or acts of violence
Starting point is 04:30:41 or sexual acts or depiction of these things. But it's like, oh, but the girl wears a sludge. I can't see that. I can't see the top two inches of her Tito. Like it's and they're probably still going to buy it. Yeah, they certainly at the end of the day, if you're making a fucking hard line on it. But yeah, I guess I just that's that's the side of it.
Starting point is 04:31:01 That's the side of it that I feel like I understand, you know? Um, and I feel like it's very easy to come down on the people that are being ridiculous about it. It sure is. But I feel like it's less easy to come down on the people that are being less ridiculous about it. Yeah, because it's like. I have yet I have engaged in this conversation many times.
Starting point is 04:31:23 Yeah. And I have yet to find somebody who is passionate about this topic. Yeah, that it did not eventually break down to. But my wafus. Because I guess the I guess the part of it is like, I'm curious about what the dev was going for in those moments. And like, ultimately, you're like, it doesn't matter who knows, maybe. Right. And you're like, it could be this, but who knows.
Starting point is 04:31:46 Yeah, trying to ascribe your vision of an author's. And I think and I think that's where it kind of just break. But I'm like, I'm like, that doesn't stop my curiosity about that. At the end of the day, it's like, yeah, you're right. It doesn't make a difference. But I'm still curious when I see that in the same way that you see an edit to the Malaysian version of something and you go. Oh, my favorite one.
Starting point is 04:32:08 What was that about that? Somebody pointed me out to that Vinny made popular. It was my clunky. You hear this shit? No. George Lucas's final act. Was that another edit to the Greedo scene is now in the Disney Plus version of a new hope. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 04:32:26 In which before he goes to try and shoot Han Solo, it zooms in on Greedo and he goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did hear about this. I did hear about this. Yeah. And it's like, what the fuck? Quick question just before we move on, because I feel like at a certain point, I feel like we've talked about it as much as we'd rather to give a shit. But what would you say if an edit was made to increase the lewdness? I wouldn't care either.
Starting point is 04:32:53 OK. So it's not necessarily about the pullback as it is, let's say, they de-self-censor and they put it out. That has happened in particular with violence that happens quite often where the American or North American or European version is way more violent. You angry Kirby, bro. Yeah. Well, no, I'm thinking of Resident Evil 4. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 04:33:14 You can't show decapitations in the Japanese version. OK. So Leon's head. They just chain some in the neck and he just falls over. OK. Do you but like in like full honesty, you feel that like you would have the same tone? Yeah, I would see the people who would go, oh, this is going to corrupt the children or whatever.
Starting point is 04:33:34 I'm like, shut the fuck up. Who gives a fuck? It's a titty. You'll live. You'll live without you'll live either without seeing a titty or you'll live with seeing a titty another day. None of us will die. It's OK. Yeah. And that tone is exactly kind of where I'm at. Like you just sounded like what I would want to say. Yeah. So you get it.
Starting point is 04:33:57 Yeah. OK. But anybody who takes a stance on just center, it's like, fucking, give me a break. What would you say fucking break? What would you say if the dev did state their intent and it was actually I'd be I would look man, it would make it so much easier if the devs just came out.
Starting point is 04:34:17 It's like, yeah, no, we were worried about getting a higher rating in the US because the rating system and you go, oh, that sucks. And then download the Japanese version, I guess, or the Chinese version, which would have the extra the Hong Kong version would have the English or if they came out and they said, like, we felt that it was inappropriate. You know, if you got one of those weird things, it would never happen. But like, would that make it easier to be like, well, what are you doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:34:43 Much of it made a lot easier because then you have their intention. Then there would be no guess. Yeah. Because the most infuriating part of that is its censorship. It's like, you don't even know that. You don't even know if it's self censorship. Until the devs come out and say we changed this due to pressure from Sony or publisher or our perception of American audiences or whatever, you don't even know.
Starting point is 04:35:07 And of course, it's always like. The important thing, too, is that it's always case by case basis, as is almost everything in life, right? As as easy and comforting as it as it is to use blankets. There's always scenarios where you get it and it makes a bit more sense. I think the entire history of the character poison is an incredibly interesting always fascinating that is representative of like literally being aware of, you know what?
Starting point is 04:35:39 You're right. You're completely right. That is fascinating, but I just decided. That there's another part of this that annoys me. OK. And it annoys me greatly. OK. Every time this censorship comes up or depiction and it's always the young anime girls, right?
Starting point is 04:35:59 Well, 99 percent of the time, sometimes the young anime boys. It always comes down to. Oh, it's too sexy or it's too raunchy or whatever. And it's always like how big are their tits? How much of their book can you see? How low is their, you know, and it's fucking juvenile. Like it's about sex appeal and the sex appeal that is being discussed here is. But how big the titty, though, almost every time I've seen one
Starting point is 04:36:36 of these altered designs for the West, I find them to be genuinely more attractive because they're classier. That's and that's why I said from the jump. That's why I said, like, a lot of the time, like I'm more for yeah, that and it's like, oh, and I wish it was there from the jump. Oh, but when it's not, I notice that. And I'm curious like I don't mean like I'm just like to stand on a pedestal here. But sex is more than just seeing how much of your partner's skin you can see.
Starting point is 04:37:08 So Elizabeth and King of Fighters 11 came out and had her open shirt with the titi emphasizing her. Yeah. And it was wild. And then I think the next version of her where they switched it from the white shirt to the blue one, she got the the thing that Seinfeld hates. The fucking the puffy shirt, the pirate puffy shirt. She got that thing and it was like a sanitizing to some degree of the design. And I legitimately think it looks better, right?
Starting point is 04:37:41 But when, but like I said, like as somebody who would even vouch for the alternate version, yeah, right? It's it's always it's the process that makes me curious. It's it's like maybe maybe my disgust or my derision comes from an audience of people that are like, but I need to see the only the the the nipple. I have to see it if I can't see the nipple. It's like the titi ain't there. No, I remember I remember there was a redesign in something where I forgot
Starting point is 04:38:12 what it was, but like it was like a skin tight suit redesign type thing where I was like that legitimately looks cooler. I legitimately was like the redesign here actually looks cooler in this context. But but yeah, I think I think you're what you're seeing in some cases is juvenile. It's like a 14 year old's idea of what sexy is. Which I guess is appropriate because that's the age of most of these characters. Of course. I still do.
Starting point is 04:38:47 I still do think your brain is going to notice and like anytime something like anytime it feels like like someone is is is trying to change the way you've perceived something based on where you live or what you might think or feel or whatever the case is. I think people are a little bit sensitive to that. And I think that like in the same way that we kind of would look at. And no, it's not no, it's not it's a false equivalency. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 04:39:12 But like I don't want to because when we talk about like, oh, they're going to patch the shit out of that Star Wars kiss or things like that. Right. And you're kind of just like, don't change shit. No. Right. And I think I think that sentiment, like I said, it goes both ways. And you kind of can see when, like I said, if it were to become more sexy afterwards, then you'd still be like, man, don't change shit. Yeah. You know.
Starting point is 04:39:34 But it's not it's definitely not a strong feeling. And it's never worth screaming about because it's super. The devotion shit was totally worth screaming about because that was for real. That company is fucked. Yeah, we should probably move on, though. But are they getting them pillows ready to hit us? Fill in their pillows with coins so they can hit us with hard waifus. I feel like I'm happy with the way I describe that because it's
Starting point is 04:40:01 I feel like it's nuanced. Yeah. And it's easy to miss that nuance. I think the situation has no nuance at all and is filled with morons and children. OK. And I bet you. OK. I bet you anything I could go to my Twitter right now. And there's a guy yelling at me that says I don't get it. And his avatar is an anime girl.
Starting point is 04:40:25 I I would bet you. Well, fuck that guy. I don't want to. I'm not expecting rationality coming out of that guy, certainly. Let's go try. Yeah. I think everybody can handily agree that that guy who's screaming with the with the Daki Makara in hand about his love each other's
Starting point is 04:40:52 needs to fucking stop, you know, but. Well, I'll be damned. Not only am I wrong, but I'm opposite wrong. What's up? The only person on my Twitter talking to me about this topic does have an anime avatar and an anime avatar of like a cute anime girl. On their banner, but they're being super reasonable and down to earth. Well, I'll be.
Starting point is 04:41:22 I did change the world for the better. You're all welcome. Was it a good point of view or observation? Even if I didn't even read the whole thing, but I could tell it wasn't mad. Does it add to the discussion? I'm curious. Oh, no, wait, no, it's a shitty take. No, I didn't read it closely enough.
Starting point is 04:41:52 Fuck everything. What are we here for? Yes, I wonder why I only watch Castle Superbeast whenever I am in the mood to hurt myself. There we go. Oh, well, that could be one of many reasons. No, but then they start talking about the anime censorship ship and how hypocrite I am. There's a lot of people that I'm a big baby.
Starting point is 04:42:09 There's a lot of people that can't stand. Yeah. Well, OK. Well, where things have I was right after all, me being me saying that I was wrong was actually wrong. I'm inverting my stand powers now. And you lost me in the process. Well, whatever. And my fans are trash.
Starting point is 04:42:26 Yeah, I watch anime. So. So in conclusion. Don't protect the children from the titties. Protect the titties from the children. But don't put the titties on the children. And let me ask you a question. I have a friend of a friend of a friend.
Starting point is 04:42:46 And they know somebody who is breastfeeding their kid, right? Pretty normal. How old is too old? We had a breastfeeding conversation on that stranding the other day. Oh, did you? Yes, we did. A lot of ground was covered. Yeah. I want to say there was an episode of Curb that addressed this.
Starting point is 04:43:08 Yeah. If you can walk and talk, it's time to stop. Because the kids able to ask for the titty. Yeah. Yeah, it's no good because they're almost four. Yeah, there's a YouTube channel that was running that racket for a while. That seems that seems too old. And that's a hustle because technically hustling because that's a nature. That's a nature video that's not counted as anything,
Starting point is 04:43:36 but a natural thing that a mother does. Yeah. And it's like, really? Is that why this has 80 million views? I don't think it is. I don't think it is. You don't think what is? That's the reason, I mean, because it's natural and beautiful in the miracle of life and motherhood.
Starting point is 04:43:52 Oh, well, that's what that's what she's saying. Well, I mean, people say a lot of things. People do say a lot of things. I've said a lot of things today. You did. Yeah. Are they real? All of them. I am a big baby. That is true.
Starting point is 04:44:06 Does that mean that as a big baby, you want to do big baby things? No, it isn't. OK, that is not the. That's not the that's not the line we're taking. No, it's not. I thought that's where you were going somewhere. It's not where I would know. See the discussion that I can be immature and stand my feet and act like a child.
Starting point is 04:44:24 OK, now that's not that you know, not, no, OK, no. Not even a little bit, not even a little bit. OK, no. Because you see the discussion that we had was pretty much one that went the same way and it was like, OK, but like life or death emergency situation, though. Yeah. And then back to cannibalism. OK, well, it's just cannibalism.
Starting point is 04:44:49 I can't tell. No, no, it's not. But then it's like, what about which could you do it then? Could you could you go for it? How do you know what might be the others? A lot of words that turn people off. I can't think of anything that I find less appealing than the reference to a person's others. You know, you see the anime thing with the girls dressed up like a cow or something
Starting point is 04:45:18 and it's like, ah, no. Yeah. Mm, mm, no. Man, no, thanks. It ain't it ain't great, but it's it's it's it's in there. It's in the lexicon with chess, beefers and everything else that's fucking hilarious. Yeah, I mean, here's what I'll say, not with a straight face, at least. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:45:51 But that's what they do. And that's what happens. And in general, you want to keep your you want to keep your distance. Yeah, you know, but there are people. And then we anyway, that we had a whole conversation and it went all over the place and it didn't involve even touching on the fact that sometimes there's people that involuntarily have that even when they're not just going on a parent.
Starting point is 04:46:12 Yeah. And it sometimes it just happens. There's people out there for that. Mm hmm. Everybody in everything now. Sometimes it's unintentional. Sometimes you don't know what's going on. He's got a little leakage. You're like, what's up with that? Yeah, we can do it too, apparently.
Starting point is 04:46:27 Apparently if you it's really gross, but yeah, you can. You try you have to try really hard. Yep. You believe in the heart of cards. Yeah. I'm doing it right now. Yeah. Bitter. I'd say I'm pretty bitter about it.
Starting point is 04:46:46 Nice. Yeah, thank you. So anyways, all right, I stopped. I stopped it. I've mentally turned off the production. There we go. Our podcast is disgusting. It's really bad. And I don't blame anybody that says I can't listen.
Starting point is 04:47:05 Yeah, no, like we see the comments every people going like another week of this. I'm out or the are just the threads untagged, though they may be. That's that's someone's that people send back my way about people just being like, all right, I'm done. I can't do this. Yeah, I have to wait for the timestamps
Starting point is 04:47:23 because I can't handle a 90 minute. No, no, no, I've seen. No, I've seen. I've seen like people having full on discussions about the full on checkout. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, I don't I don't blame you. I get it. You'll either you'll get stronger if you listen.
Starting point is 04:47:36 I get it. You want to stay weak. I get it. It's, you know, it really is a it is a spiraling as opposed to a journey. Yeah. And. I think the problem slash power comes from the fact comes from the same source. Yeah, where you're like, this is awful.
Starting point is 04:48:03 But is it more funny than it is awful? That's going to change depending on the person viewing it and the moment and the context that the discussion even entered the vortex to begin with. And can you make it back out by the time you've got this far? It's four hours. I'm at the I'm at the point where I like I can I can watch like YouTube videos of like surgeries and just like eat my eat my dinner.
Starting point is 04:48:28 I don't give a shit. It doesn't affect me. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. You ever, you know, you we're all desensitized and stuff. But you know, there's like all these you ever see like a tiny thing that just like makes you just like, you know, just like, yeah, totally. You know, yeah, that ice cream video that girl got arrested with ice cream. The foot again, it breaks down to like tampering of food. Just like full body like shutter.
Starting point is 04:48:52 Well, that's why I talked about the Uber guy. Yeah, the Uber guy. Like I like I was kind of trying not to scream when you were talking about that. But yeah, it's so horrible. Yeah. No, but anyway, the end of the thought was quite simply that I think the longer it goes, the more you become Pat Exponent Pat and I become Woolly Exponent Woolly.
Starting point is 04:49:10 I see. And that's an interesting form of math. Unbearable in some cases. And I don't even blame. I don't even blame anybody who doesn't want that. There's a wise man. The one said, please keep screaming. Shut the fuck up at me. It only makes my opinions worse.
Starting point is 04:49:35 I try to take that to heart every day. That's wisdom. Correction from. Oh, hey, what's up, Rowan? During Death Stranding, you compared Famitsu's editor, cameo of Mayor Ebert in Roland Embrick's 1998 Godzilla film as pure bribery that this is, in fact, the opposite case for Godzilla. Mayor Ebert, first of all, is not actually played by Ebert himself
Starting point is 04:50:07 and has cast him as the buffoonish figure of derision along with the brown nosing lackey intended to portray Jean Siskel. This is not a cameo to gain favor. It was a salty fuck you to both of them for their negative reviews of Independence Day and Stargate. This also obviously did not gain any favor with Siskel as he labeled it one of the worst movies of the year. And Ebert's review said one must carefully repress intelligent
Starting point is 04:50:31 thought while watching such a film. And but my brain rebelled and insisted on applying logic where it was not welcome. That's a good bird. That's a really strong bird. So yeah, this is actually not a case of supreme. This is actually a case of supreme saltiness rather than bribery. I did not know that and I appreciate the correction. That's so petty.
Starting point is 04:50:53 That's so fucked up and petty. I always thought I just remember them in the helicopter and Mary Burt being all fucking talking shit. And I'm like, I can't believe they cast Siskel and Ebert in this movie. I do not know what they look like. Yeah. And the guy they were. Oh, do they look like they cast? Look a lot. Oh, man, that's so petty. It looks like that's fucked up to the point
Starting point is 04:51:13 that all these years later, I had no idea. It wasn't them. That sucks. That's hilarious. Anyway, good. That's a good, good deep, good deep. Lastly, they're woolly and spaceman Pat. I was thinking about Dragon Ball and it occurred to me that future trunks in his nearly hits nearly every box on the Time Travel Mary Sue checklist. Yeah. He's from a dark edgy future.
Starting point is 04:51:36 He is nearly all the main characters are dead. Yeah. He can go super sane when Goku was thought to be the only one. That's right. He defeats Frieza and then the previous big bad that Goku struggled to defeat in mere seconds. Got it. He's the child of two characters that had never shared on screen time previously. That's true.
Starting point is 04:51:52 And he's finally got a cool sword. Yeah. On paper, future chunks should be the most hated character in Dragon Ball that's only seen as blatantly edgy as a Mary Sue. But instead, he's given he's given believable flaws in a character arc and ended up being one of the most popular characters. What's a character that on paper should be one that you absolutely despise, but due to strong right in or hidden depth, you ended up loving. Keep up the good work from Brett on paper, you should despise.
Starting point is 04:52:19 Trunks Trunks is fits that he fits that description to the point that I never even realized the design is great. Like that's the number one that carries it. Well, he brought in the he brought in cool hair. Yeah, he brought in cool hair to the yellow. Like he's got a bluish hair with the purple jacket that he's got yellow with the purple jacket. He's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:52:39 I see a lot of Virgil. I see a lot of Virgil. I don't that's not where I was. My brain was going because on paper, like I love the rival. Yeah, almost all the time, man. That's not even it. Like rival characters most of the time end up being in my favor. So of relevance recently, fucking back ago is
Starting point is 04:53:03 he's pushing it. So back ago pushes it for me. The author because he's so unlikeable. The author has talked about in recent interviews because back ago is getting more of a spot in the manga now. Yeah. And he's like, I really, really wish I could go back and have him not tell Deku to kill himself. OK, because that singular action
Starting point is 04:53:24 as the first thing you ever see the character do. Yeah. Is it's like this black mark against him forever. It makes it really like I I want to give him a chance because I want to see Pat, fuck you, where I want to see the evolution, so to speak, the mentality of evolution. And he has he has sort of one. Yeah. But it's layered in God.
Starting point is 04:53:50 You're just such an asshole. You're so unlikeable in not the good way. You know. So I got a better one, I think. What is the better one? I'm going to say persona for culprit. Yeah, he's great. Is on paper, on paper.
Starting point is 04:54:10 I want to write it down. This is what the character is and this is what they do that. It's so lame and fuck that you're like, oh, this story is dumb. It's awful. And yet in execution and due to both voice actors. Yes. And and the writer like and then writing and or character motivation. Oh, is on paper. It's so bad.
Starting point is 04:54:31 And then in the execution, it is one of my favorite things. It's so good. And I should absolutely despise. They're one of my favorite villains ever. I should absolutely like I look at look at Persona five and I go, the villains were OK, but none of them were culprit. Yeah. Yeah. The villain from part four is who I think on paper should be awful.
Starting point is 04:54:55 But ends up being not due to execution. Yeah. That's a good one. Corporate culprits, great culprit. All right, podcast is over. We'll see you next week on Monday. We'll talk about the smash stuff and all sorts of the podcast ain't over. Not Monday. Oh, not Monday.
Starting point is 04:55:13 We're not doing Monday. I'm going to frost. Oh, you're going to the next Wednesday. We'll see it. We'll see you then. I like usual. Not even an attempt at a witty ending, huh? No. Come on, she died. Thank you, sorry.
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