Castle Super Beast - CSB 130: Wild Collages: The Disco Spoilercast

Episode Date: August 10, 2021

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© BF-WATCH TV 2021 © BF-WATCH TV 2021 There we go. Hello. Hello. Woolly, can I hear you today? I think you can. I can. I assume you can hear me judging by whether or not you answered that question, which you did. Sounds like I can hear you.

And that is because when we set up this podcast over the internet, we did cursory research on how far away we would be and whether or not the connection would actually function at that distance for the important event that we hold here every Monday. Is there anything that an event organizer would probably look into? Probably. That's the kind of due diligence we use on our dumb little podcast that we do. So it would be crazy if people didn't do that diligence

for such a thing as a gigantic global event. And I heard that there was some lag issues with Evo online. I didn't watch. I haven't seen any. I don't know the details. I know some of the details. Okay. And what the number one detail to be taken away from Evo online is that people who run Evo don't know what maps are. So in particular, the South American side of the tournament

because they had it broken up into like, I think it was like North America and Europe and South America. South America included Mexico. Oh, God. Okay. Yeah, that's really stupid. I know the I don't know how many people watching this are familiar with the Mercator projection. It's what we typically use on a flat map. But that screws up distances.

And it turns out that the tip of Mexico to the tip of Brazil are farther apart than the middle of Canada to the middle of Mexico. It's super far. It's like 4200 fucking miles. That's really dumb. Yeah. Wow. It's and as a result. Everything was fucked. So they didn't even show the strive top eight for Latin America, South America.

So there's a lot of them. It's interesting because that makes me think of how often conversations are held here where people say North America, but they really just mean Canada and U.S. Yeah. And North America. I wonder why that is. It's it's it's like that's a thing and it's a thing that's very common. So I can see where because of that sort of like bracketing that occurs in every day conversation and then the way people operate and think about it,

that it could lead to something as dumb as putting a North American country in a South American bracket. There were also situations. I think Leffen had the best take this. Hey, here's a here's a statement from Pat. I think Leffen had the best take out of Evo. What he said, which was he got to top eight in European strive after one match. I don't know if you got to see the brackets, but a combination of Internet issues,

poor planning and people not even knowing that the event was on at all. Met that every single bracket is like 60, 70, 80 percent DQs. Mm hmm. That's pretty well. So people are having like buys all the way up the entire bracket to top 16. I mean, here's one thing I can tell you is other fighting game friends that I have were also like, wait, it's this weekend and next and what's going on. And overall, it's kind of just happening.

I didn't even know Evo was happening. People had to tell me in the chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I saw it and I saw the plan across multiple weekends and it's a whole thing, but it really is unfortunately just like background, you know. And something else too is that like online tournaments like are there's been a whole lot of them and they've been, you know, run by different people. I mean, Jeff wrote and rumble.

Good guy. And Leffen has Levo as well. And there's a couple other online tournaments, but like, I mean, Capcom just ran their pro tour online just now. Yeah. So, you know, there's there's always problems, but it's kind of like it's it's when you hear like shit like that happening where you're like, this is the biggest profile one.

You would hope that like it would be the best thought out. But anyway, I don't know. Here's to the return of locals at some point in the future. Whenever that's possible. That's what I have to say to that at some point in the future. At some point in the future, one way or the other. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I know you never cared about locals.

I do. I'd like to. I'd like it to happen. I wish that. Oh, that's not where my laughter is coming from. What my laughter is coming from. I'm going to be doing a little graph up and down with my finger here for those of the audio listeners.

It's like, hey, we might be getting close to local. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Actually, we might be getting close to locals. No, we're not. Yeah. Hey, we might be getting. No.

That's that's why I say at some point in the future, you know, and then we have like that thing where I forget it was a tournament being held in Las Vegas. I forget what it was. But it was like a free week for the scrub quotes account because they mandated vaccination proof upon entering the venue and you got to see the intersection of FGC like dirtbag and anti-vax being combined into like a single type of idiot. And, oh, man. Oh, oh, it's so good.

Support your 2025 locals. Yeah. Well, anyway, um, that's. Yeah, that's a stupid thing. They shouldn't have done that. I don't know. It was, it was just like, I never thought my entire life, no matter what the scenario, I'd ever be like, wait, Eva's happening right now.

Like I'm so used to everyone just like getting excited and talking about it and going crazy. Well, anyway, I mean, yeah, it's, it's, I just, I don't know, like online tournaments, I haven't entered any of them because, I mean, besides the fact that like, you know, tournament life requires a particular grind and dedication. And I mean, from seeing like the, the, all the really, really, all the best players are like talking like, like, I think like Justin Wong has entered like, I don't know what the count is, but it's like hundreds of tournaments over the course of the year have been entered already.

And like, um, I know Kizzy and Sonic Fox, obviously, like all these, all these players are, they're just like, yeah, every week, every week is like four or five tournaments to just go fucking crush. And, uh, yeah, I don't, I guess I kind of just like, um, for now, I'm just going to, I'm just going to play and have fun and just not think about any of that stuff. Is it your top game right now in terms of personal skill, possibly samurai showdown? Possibly. You're not going to be doing online tournaments with that fucking thing.

Certainly not. Certainly not. Yeah. And there was a little bit of a, an online thing with, um, a little, a little battle between fan bases because there's some folks that are like, Hey, well, you know, uh, five special has rollback. So just go play that. And I'm like, but I played specials totally different.

Yeah. I played Darlie Dagger and it's a different game and I want to play the one with Darlie Dagger in it. I like that. Yeah. It's, it's the dance you get to do with, um, strive or somebody's like, I don't really like this about strive. I wish it was more like excerpt.

And then you go, go play excerpt. But before you finish saying go play excerpt, you go, Oh, but you can't just go play excerpt because excerpt doesn't work online like at all. And then you go, well, go play accent core. And then you're like, no, accent core is a completely fucking different game entirely. It is. It's a freak weirdo game. And it's also like 15, 20 years old.

Yeah. Um, still great, but it's, it's not the same dish in any way, shape or form. Uh, all right. So I guess, um, I'll take the baton. Have your baton, sir. And I'll start it by, uh, giving a heads up, uh, PSA, not you. That's me. That's not me.

No, not you. It is me. I own those. You co-opted three letters that belong to everyone else. No, mine. Um, so. There is going to be a break off of a couple of weeks, about three weeks. We're going to have no podcast.

So from August 30th, um, through to September, uh, sixth, and then the 13th are all going to be off. Uh, so we'll be back in the back half of September. I will be, uh, away on my honeymoon. So that's why there's no podcast. It's important. So what's the start date on that? I actually, what's the list?

You said August 30th. Uh, yeah. So basically. We're going to do the 16th and then the 23rd. It's going to be 30th, 16th, 23rd are all off. And, uh, that period of time will be also applying to the channel as well. So over on Willie versus, uh, we will have some offline programming to, uh, to play during the, during the, the hiatus.

Yeah. Is building that shit up exhausting? No, honestly, I'm, it's not, I'm not building it. I'm not going to build up, um, a whole, um, not like we used to do that. No, no, no. I'm just, I'm going to record, I'm going to record, uh, a, an offline LP of something and then that'll be going up in the, in the dark old school style during that time frame. So I'll, I'll, I'll let that happen.

What it happens though. Since Willie is going to be putting out less content, uh, for at least for a short time in the near future, if you guys are really bored, you can always come watch my terrible streams over at, uh, Pat stairs at. Yeah. I mean, there's still going to be stuff. Yeah. So there won't be as much.

So like, like the watch your thing and then they'll be like, oh, I usually watch two extra hours of Willie a day. Well, yeah. There they'll, they'll be, be sure to, be sure to tune in for some stuff though. Um, yeah. So that's going down. So that's your future, but what about your recent past? Um, and also, I mean, in my short term, in my more immediate future, that will also,

uh, leave, uh, a very disrupted schedule of recording. So I will be, uh, streaming and recording over the next couple of weeks, a lot more sporadically than usual. We'll still be getting sessions in, of course, but just there will be a lot more days and gaps, you know, cause, uh, a lot of, a lot of stuff to deal with and work on and plan and so on and so forth. So yeah, um, I'll be here in there, but you will see as you usually can the schedule on my Twitter, uh, on my Twitter stuck to the top.

It'll, it'll let you know what we're doing each week. Um, at the very least, if I can get in, uh, a session of, uh, Devil's Summoner and some fighting games on Saturdays, then I think we'll be okay. Probably do some heavy sessions of, of SMT actually, just to let it last a little longer and get more into makeup for the time. Um, but yeah, in the past week, a lot of things. So as I just mentioned, uh, we finished Disco Elysium. Congratulations.

Thank you. Uh, and that was fantastic. And so at the end of this episode, we can do a little spoiler cast. Talk about the spoilers and things that happen at the end of that. Very good game. Highly recommended before we do, we can have a completely non, uh, spoilery discussion, which I basically just want to be last year. My game of the year was 13 sentinels, which snuck in right at the end as just

like this fucking complete anime narrative triumph of like the Eastern like visual novel style storytelling. And then earlier this year, I played and beat Disco Elysium, which is like the complete goddamn fucking narrative triumph game in like, uh, where are they, where are they from? Are they Polish or Czech or that's Europe, Europe place. This is just like, just like fucking thumbs up game of the year. Easy.

Like no question for me. Yes. Estonia. The insolendian is solo. It was, uh, it was absolutely. Um, yeah, that's going to steal game of the year for sure. Uh, whatever that distinction means. I mean, to me, I would, I give it more.

Like I'd rather give it a more descriptive thing. Like I'd say like it's, it's best written game I've ever played. Oh yeah. Um, absolutely. You know, it's the best playing novel I've ever read. Yeah. With a bullet. There's just nothing stopping that or coming close.

And, um, you know, so of course, yeah, no spoilers. We'll talk about all that later, but I will say that as promised throughout the, uh, entire time I've been playing it, I started right again and I went back in with a different style of character who's playing. It feels, it just feels different. Yeah. And, um, you know, we're going in with a, a just complete beef head that's going to just like get as drunk and as high as possible.

And I'm just going to kick down every door I can find. And that will solve the mystery. Yeah. And I feel so much worse for, you know, Kim, who's just like, oh my God, like on a regular basis just has to stop and talk to you again. Yeah. He does these like little check-ins early on in that I've had so far, like two of them where he's like, Hey man, just is this pace yourself?

Is this, is this what you're about? You know, just want it to be clear here. No judgment, but is this what you're about? You know, and, um, yeah, we're going through it differently. And, uh, and I'm enjoying the variety already. You know, um, I mean, um, like within the first like 10 minutes, right? The entire Kuno situation. I just, like, I still think about phrasing that as the Kuno situation,

which is completely accurate. I played it out so completely differently and, um, and I noticed something fucking dark, you know, is like, again, first, first 10 minutes of the game or whatever, like when, when it's like put him in his place is a check and you do so. Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh yeah. Yeah.

His voice literally changes for the rest of the line reads. A second line read voice kicks in where he's very, very different in tone from the way he usually is, you know, it's crazy. So, um, yeah, uh, I mean, I kind of just seeing differences like that right away, right away in the game. I'm like, oh man, like this is going to be a hell of an enjoyable second gig. Um, anyway, my, I had a takeaway from it when I was like two sessions from the end or something where it was right when like, I think it was

soft was like putting out a bunch of statements about how their games don't say anything. And I was like talking to like those drunk jackasses on the west side of the map about bullshit. And all I could think of is like so many like games now are terrified to really put their foot into something or say anything. And disco doesn't just have something to say. It has something to say about every topic I could think of, including

a bunch of topics that are completely fictional, that don't exist and are only contextually interesting in this context. Yeah. It's refreshingly, um, direct and unapologetic, which is pretty much all you can ask for. And again, I, it's, it's all in the moment where it literally tells you to say one of these fascist or communist things or fuck off or fuck just like that is the like, uh, uh, uh, that is the mantra we're

carrying forward here. It's like, no, no, you're going to do one of these things. We're not going to, we're not going to play. Um, we're not going to play a spec ops the line with you, you know, and ask you, do you, do you feel like a hero yet? We're going to, we're going to force you to choose one of these things and we're going to have all of them go to their horrible extremes and conclusions, you know, um, disco, Elysium fence

sitting is for pussies. At the same time, at the same time, it's like, come get your licks no matter what side you're on because fence sitting is for pussies, but also no matter how you like is stupid, the thing you like is stupid. Exactly. You know that exactly. Right.

There's a, it's a different. It's not like, don't be, don't be the, don't be the grill piled middle that sits there because that is literally the worst version of all events, but at the same time, the things you like are dumb and we're going to fucking blast you for them. You know, um, it's incredible. Uh, yeah. So, so we beat that and more to say later, um, and then we have

since then started, uh, Shin Megami tense, a devil summoner Kuzunoha Raido versus the soulless army, AKA Raido one. And like random battles. Yeah. No, but I'm having fun. I'm having fun so far. I see a lot of folks, um, that are like a lot of folks, a lot of folks are excited, but a lot of people were also like, oh man,

the second one gets so much better. And the first one's really full of all these jank things. And in my, in my like, you know, uh, looking into it and then so far like with that first session, I'm like, I'm, I'm prepared for all of this. This is all fine. You know, like I know going in that I'm like, I'm booting up a PlayStation two SMT game.

I'm expecting there to be, you know, some roughness here, but overall it's going to be a shorter game than like some of the, the beefier ones. And, uh, yeah, and I'm down for it, you know, it's, it's, it's going to be fine. I'm not, I'm not too worried about some of those aspects that that the statement of like the first one has some jank and the second one gets so much better.

That's an accurate statement, but I, I dislike when people like evangelize that because that always has this undercurrent of life. Well, then just skip the first one. It's like, oh, the first one's still good. Yeah. I really like Rydo who's know how one, I think the story goes great places.

And I think the ending in particular is incredible. So, so far it's been really strong. It's been, it's been a whole lot of fun. The, like the most, um, egregiously dated aspect is so far has been the demon fusion and the fact that you have to RNG your, your, um, move list, you know, you have to back out and go back before they gave up on the total randomization. Exactly.

So, you know, that I came in expecting that because of, you know, other get other SMTs and, and, and P three and shit. So like that's all fine. Um, and, uh, you know, I kind of mentioned it a little bit, but like there was a point at which I was also looking into persona two and yeah, like as good as the story in that I'm told is, um, I walked around and I kicked the tires and it that goes back further than I think could be a solid LP.

You know, it's, there's certain games you can go back in time and it's no problem. I could play doom right now all the way through and I like, oh man has an age today. Meanwhile, persona two. Yeah. Oh man, go look at persona one. Yeah.

No, I know, right? It's all, it's all Tartarus basically is what I've been told. Um, two and I don't, and I, and I, this is not a blanket statement because here's the thing. I think someone who knows P two already, both of them could go in and make it interesting and just talk about a lot of what the game is about and a lot of the franchise as a whole and discuss all those things and go through it.

But as someone who's brand new sitting with someone else who's brand new diving into it and me, I'm familiar with the future persona games and he would be familiar with zero persona games. I think that would just not be a good choice. You know, and it was, it was a curiosity pick that I mentioned early on, but having looked into it, having done a little research, having kicked the tires.

I'm like, yeah, this is going to be a bad idea. And, uh, righto steps up and does an excellent job. Yeah. P two also gives you a wonderful nightmare that is platform changes in which persona two innocent sin did get localized into English and an improved PSP port, which you could probably emulate fairly easily. But then they were like, well P P two eternal punishment.

Well, that already got localized and innocent sin didn't sell that well. So just go play the PS one game. Exactly. It's like, ah, that's shit. So now exactly. So that's the, and then part two of this is like, all right, how would you go about even handling this in the modern

today? And it's like, well, all right, the PSP version exists. However, the English dub is apparently pretty whack and cringy at a lot of points. So you're going to want to get your hands on the fan undub of the PSP game. So then you get that going and you can play the fan undub, which puts the Japanese voices back in and lets you play

through the English version of the game. That's fine. Um, but then there is no finished, um, version of that for, for part two for PSP. Or so you got to go back to PS one and then use a, um, a translate, a fan translation that like makes the spell names and a couple of other mistranslated things accurate. And then it just, it got, yeah, I was going down a rabbit hole

fun of figuring out how to, how to deal with like fan translations and those bits and pieces as well alongside getting into P two. So it was like, Oh man, this is that on, that on its own was a whole other like, you know, and there's some shit in there that's like, obviously like, well, look, there's some stuff in persona in all of them that's pretty dated and the further back you go, the more dated they get.

So I don't think there's anything as dated in persona as from persona one, the most dated thing in persona ever. What's that? Familiar with that character? No. Masao Inaba is the wacky kid in your, in your class in persona one. Uh, and in English, he was turned into Mark, the black

kid, the black guy. Yes, the black guy. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. And it's like, Oh man, that's fucking weird. No, but like five minutes into the map on P two, there's like a weird trans gag, you know. So it's like, all right, you're just, you're just going

to hit these fucking, whoo. That was that. I remember playing police knots and within like 21 minutes were like visibly uncomfortable. Yeah. Cause the writing of 90s Kojima was like, you know, but hey, the velvet room is cool and you can see more people in it, which is a detail.

I really wish they had kept. Yeah. Yeah, that, that, that was, that was interesting. But anyway, all this to say that, um, you know, uh, P two was, uh, yeah, it was those, there would have been a lot of issues. So, uh, we're going right out and we're having a good time with it.

He's got a little cape. Um, man, the, the Keneco designs are like completely undiluted in that game. Yeah. They really, really accurately hold up like, and they, and they translate the full thing into 3D like just, just one to one. Give me that brick of eyeshadow, sir.

Excuse me. And it's, and it's interesting too, because like you look at like, you know, um, well, again, let's say any of the persona games where the art style just leans towards anime, you know, so, but, but it's still, you still see the Keneco designs and like some demon stuff, you know? Um, but here it's like, no, no, no, the whole thing

is just like top to bottom, uh, uh, Keneco style. And you kind of look at it and you go, yeah, no, that's why Devil May Cry is going to hold onto these designs till the end of time. You know, they're going to, they're just going to, or at the very least they held onto them for a very long time. Um, you know, it was like they got a guest artist to

show up and do these designs and they fucking, they kicked ass and they're like, all right, that's Dante for the next 15 years. Makes sense. You know? Um, very, very, very fun so far. And, uh, yeah, I don't know, more to say when, when we, when we actually get further in.

Um, and I'm also curious about like, uh, some of the connections that, because I know that's the thing is like going back to these games, there's always connections to like other spinoffs in the franchise and such. And, you know, again, I remember hearing about how like Kuzanoha is like the last name of like the main character from the original Devil Summoner game

on Saturn. And so sure. Yeah. Yeah. And there's links and then like he also cameos in P2 and, and, and, you know, and what I, you know, there's a whole web and tapestry of interlocking. So usually like, I'm the kind of person who marks

out extremely hard over inter-series connections. Uh, but SMT has always felt like a big Easter egg, less so than like being plot relevant. Um, but funnily enough, Rydo 1 has, I think, the absolute most direct tie-ins to any other PA, like non-rydo game of anything in SMT. Okay. Like it's, it's like over here, over there.

What about that? Like it just touches all sorts of shit. Um, yeah. So that's, that's, that's going fun. Uh, what else? We. Oh, here's a historical detail you may not have picked up. You're familiar that the game takes place in Tysho 20?

Fictional era. Yeah. Okay. Cause there's no such thing as Tysho 20. Yes. After the major restoration, um, we go into a, a fictional timeline, altered at 1920s. Um, and I feel as if, I feel as if like the era too, like

this would go hand in hand with, um, great ace attorney, you know, cause you're seeing similar characters, similar demeanors and similar clothing, you know, it is. I don't quite remember the, the year for great ace attorney, but it's definitely after the restoration. The introduction of westernization, you know, and the, the, the, the, you know, the characters with their bowler caps and their fancy, fancy western inspired suits.

Yeah. Late 1800s. That makes sense. Um, yeah. Fucking great. Uh, I also went back to Power Rangers, the fighting game, which, you know, I mean, how's the grid? It's fucking great, man.

This game, I don't know what to say. Like we really just don't talk about it enough, but it's so good. It's a, it's a Marvel game. Like, okay, it's not really a Marvel game, but that's a big air quotes Marvel game, right? It's a hyper game. Yeah. It's 3v3 assists, fast paced, but it's just so much fun.

It's really well, you know, done. It's got cross play across all platforms. It's got rollback, um, Ryu and Chun-Li are in it now. So I went back and tried them out alongside some of the new other characters and like some of the other new characters are like just fucking super sick. Like, um, there's like stance characters that are, I was messing around with that.

I don't remember from last time. At least no, I remember one of them, but, um, uh, I think like, yeah, JC, uh, got it added and is just basically like a, a like Muay Thai fighter that just goes into all these stance switches and is like really, really, it's just like, it's like a game that just, I don't, maybe it's just because it's Power Rangers that like it's not at the forefront of the IPs being discussed and fighting games, but it's like,

this shit is such a good, it's so fun. It's so fucking good. Instantly we, we, after like one or two games, we got right back in, you know, and then he like, find your assist, find your, um, find your really dirty tag or cross up or like whatever the thing is with your character and then like, find your, your, your bullshit, find your bullshit, you know.

Um, and it also has like some of the stuff I liked about like tagging and Marvel to Marvel infinite, um, tagging and Marvel infinite was really fun because, um, you could do these hot switches back and forth and like have that kind of like call out your partner to do an assist, but it's really just a tag covering your old move. So you make your own assistant away. Like you have these moments where like the moment you press

tag a second time, you take control of that second character. So yeah, you can do a lot of fun stuff with that similar to also what you can do in like BB tag. Um, it's a lot of, yeah, you have a lot of freedom, a lot of ways to just, you know, uh, uh, go ham and do really dirty things, but like the execution is pretty simple. You know, it's got a special button. So you don't, so, you know, anyone who's like trying to get

used to the pace of like a crazy Marvel style game, like this is one where you don't have to worry too much about the execution of it. You can just focus on seeing things as fast as you need to, you know, um, yeah, just a whole, a whole, a whole lot of fun. Clockwork did an incredible job as, as we said in the past clockwork done this clockwork.

It was the, the main go-to for, yeah, like balancing and then, uh, community support and all that. Exactly. Well, that explains a lot. That explains why it turned out the way it did. Um, yeah, man, just don't sleep on Power Rangers. It's, it's fucking incredible. Um, I wish it was Sentai and as a whole.

Yeah. I wish it was literally the same exact game, but Sentai minus Saban. Yeah. Well, pretty much like same characters and everything just. Yeah. Um, but it's, uh, it's, it's, it's one of the fucking good ones that is slept on and, and, and, and at the bare minimum,

I'll say this, like, you know, um, by being cross platform, you just immediately eliminate the issue of like, where should I get it? What should I, you don't even have to have that discussion cause it's just like wherever you want. It doesn't matter. Isn't that game like super cross platform? Yes.

Literally all five. Yeah. Oh man. That's crazy. Oh, Saban is dead and has we're about the whole thing. Wonderful. Great news. Yes.

All five platforms. No, the company. Oh, the guy isn't dead. Oh. Well, anyway. Um, yeah, that's a, uh, uh, that's super cross platform, super duper. Doesn't matter what you own.

You can play it on anything you want to. So have fun with the platform of your choice, whatever's the most convenient to you. You know, um, I hope that, uh, let's say, I hope that, uh, let me, let me get the name right here. Uh, Power Rangers battle for the grid. Developed by N way. I hope that N way is given the keys to other.

I peas that anything could be, you know, turned into a cool fighting game that could benefit from this type of like open cross play scenario. And also I hope that they get people involved that can, you know, help making it do, do what, what clockwork did essentially to, because that's a huge. I just had an idea and it's a stupid idea cause it'll never happen, but could we, could you, could they give,

could Vince give them the WWE license and they can make a three V three hyper game with the pro wrestlers. I've had, I've had conversations with people in the know. Are you serious? It just, it's just not going to happen. It's just, it won't happen. Never ever. It's more likely to happen with AEW than it is with,

with the shit that Vince has his fucking hands on. Okay. If it was going to happen, it would have happened already. This is what it is, you know. But anyway, myself sad for no reason. Well, I mean, you ask a dumb question. You know, you're going to get the sad answer. It's the same shit it was when you were like fucking 20 years

younger. It's the exact same shit. Um, and then a hashtag free MVC to we popped in Marvel two. And despite how scary it was to expose ourselves to the world as complete scrubs who don't know what they're doing. It's about to ask, were you ever really into Marvel two? I don't remember that as it was. I was into it as a casual thing that was at my arcade.

I would play it with some friends, but I never got into it competitively. I never got good at it. I always just really liked it. And when CVS came around at the time, I started spending way more quarters on that. But Marvel two is really cool. It's just, it's very, it's very, because the skill ceiling

is so high, you get exposed for being a fraud faster than any other fighting game out there on the planet. And we never did it back in the day. And I wanted to get, um, I wanted to get an expert to come on and do a for glory episode with us. Um, but unfortunately that never was able to happen, you know, mainly due to the COVID and shit, but, um, I don't know, maybe something can happen in the future.

Maybe we can do something over discord, but for now it's at the very least it's like, yeah, it's just, we just kind of went like, you know what, fuck it. Let's just, let's just press buttons and look dumb and show the world that, you know, you can still have fun, not knowing how to play this game. And that game's tons of fun. If you don't know what you're doing.

Yeah. And let's just, let's just show everybody that, you know, um, so what if we're not clockwork or Neo, we can still, we can still do it and we did it and it was, it was fun. I had one team that I knew and Reggie had one team that he knew, you know, and by knew it was like we kind of knew what to do with them and we just kind of, uh, we spent our time having fun with that and max came by and we shoot him away.

Don't look at me. Don't look at my exposed horror. My ass is out, you know, and then best of bond came by and we shoot him away. And it was just like, listen, man, we're just trying to, we're just trying to do what like, cause everyone is in the same boat here where it's just like, there's a whole 99% of us that look at Marvel two and go, this shit is so cool to watch.

I can't fucking play it for the life of me. And like, you want to support it in the idea that you want it to come back so that other cooler, stronger people can play it so that you can watch it. You know, it's a weird thing because like the Marvel license put kind of a, uh, something in there where Capcom historically has been pretty good about releasing and re-releasing and re-releasing and re-releasing every fucking thing that mattered

over and over and over again. I think I own every version of RE4, but I'm not 100% sure because man, there are a lot of versions of RE4 out there. But Marvel two, despite it being like a super classic, it's like we got that version way back on the, on the Xbox 360. I don't think the last gen got a version of it at all. Nope. It didn't.

And the, the, the port was not a good one either. You know, like, uh, people that are, um, it, it, it changed things that, um, they didn't want patched out. Um, but yeah, it's, it's one of those games where like if you're in that category, which we all are, you know, of like, you just kind of want to watch it and watch people do cool things at it. Like it's, you can play it and you can have fun and you don't have to worry about like sucking, you know?

Um, and I think that's what we kind of wanted to do was just show everybody that you can just fucking press some buttons and dick around and it'll be a good time. And it was so, uh, I encourage others to, you know, support the eight, the free MVC two campaign. And if you've wanted to try it by all means, get it, try it, you know, and yeah, right now if you go and you try to fight online against anybody, you're going to just get crushed by

Mount Olympus. That's what it is. But who knows? Maybe there's, you know, you and your friends or there's a, you'll give Zeus a bloody look. Maybe there's, there's some discords out there that'll, you know, have some folks that are just as bad as you are or as I am and we can get together and have fun with it out of almost

every fighting game I've ever played. That was not a good sentence out of almost any fighting game ever played. Marvel two lends itself the best two. Hey people in my personal discord that don't really play fighting games. Do you all want to go in on this, you know, $5 copy of Marvel two and just fuck around with it?

Yeah, sure. Oh, cool. Jill has her rockets. Oh, cool. That's son son from the nest or whatever. Like, etc. Yeah, I'd say at that, like you don't even have to work because the Justin introduced a ratio system, which is pretty cool for

people who do know how to play where it was like, what if you put a weight behind every character on your team so that you couldn't go over a certain amount and that way you pick one God and then you have enough for, you know, like one like basically CVS to where you had the ratio or CVS one with the locked ratio system where it's not free ratio. Like, so if you want to have sent it all on your team, you're going to have to deal with role and, you know, someone else on

the bottom. Hi, Ato. Hey, we're talking about bring back MVC to and I've noticed that on three different occasions, you've mentioned CVS to and every time you did, I might I my eyes kind of went big and love was like, man, CVS to though, can we get something from that? Because that was the shit I was way into.

I fucking love Capcom versus MK. Those games are great. They were fantastic. They really, really were. Yeah. I think I think honestly, like any games where Capcom has licensing issues held up, become the ones that, you know, get held back the most.

It sucks. It sucks because I just want to grab a hold of someone's shoulders and shake them just a little bit and kind of yell at them in the face of like literally just put out Capcom versus Capcom. Please God. Yeah. That's the end of the discussion every time we had that as

well, where it's like, try not to go into two hours of Capcom versus Capcom roster talk because it's just obvious. So many fucking Capcom characters. Well, it's just like literally it was just like, OK, never mind all the cool never evers that you've like thought about. Never mind Jean, you know, from God hand. Just take the entire Capcom half of the Marvel two roster and the Marvel three roster and you already have an unbelievable

fighting game full of fun characters. I'm genuinely convinced that you could probably put out a version of Marvel two that replaced every single Marvel character with a Capcom analog that had the same moveset. You could just a different scan and it would work. They, you know, like a Rika did it for fighting layer, right? Like they just went, we're taking our characters and fucking off and doing our own thing.

And we're just taking all the Street Fighter characters from EX out of it. And that's that that's their franchise, you know, like it's it's already there anyway. Yes. Just just just stable. No. I'm not sure of of of dread by on a commando on a Spider-Man

and just be done with it. He's but he already exists. It's fine. But yeah, not Marvel two. He doesn't. The the start of this was try not to get into two hours of roster talk for CVC. So bad.

It's just it's such an obvious. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So so that game that game should come back in some way, shape or form and, you know, I don't know. We'll see what happens with Marvel on it. But back.

That's that's pretty much it. I mean, I started low key, but I won't have anything to say until I finish it. So. Would you say that you low key started? I low key started low key. Anyways, how about you? Well, I mean, the only real interesting thing that I play,

I'm going to be playing a bunch of Indies this coming week, which include Death Trash and Grime on the same day, which I'm super happy that there are two filth games that I can play on stream. But the biggest and most important thing that I played this past week was Mass Effect 3, which I have not touched for more than 60 minutes. Like we did the machinima video of it and we literally just

got enough footage to just shit out a machinima video all those years ago, hadn't played it because the the ending discourse had reached everyone long before the game came out. And Mass Effect 3 leaves me very emotionally conflicted in terms of like what it actually is. So the long and short of it, everybody knows that the Mass Effect 2 and sorry, Mass Effect 3 ending is like the worst thing ever.

Yada yada. What surprised me and honestly ended up making me more upset was that starting and playing the game and getting about, I don't know, six hours into it, it's excellent. Like it's very good. It's doing a lot of really good stuff that even the second game that everybody loves didn't do. You have way more ability to interact with your crew and all

that stuff, which has always been a highlight of that series. You know, as you're speaking. And it plays like a real action game. I realized that I have literally never heard anyone discuss any aspect of Mass Effect 3 except for the ending controversy. I have not heard literally a single thing about the game outside of that. I have no idea.

To me, it's like you start the game and then it's just that ending because that's the only thing I've ever heard for my entire life about it. It's a fun thing in that it's the video game equivalent of getting bad news via text message 10 minutes before you go to bed because no matter how great your day was, days ruined. Oh man, what a terrible day. It soured the experience for everybody.

So I'm going through this in reverse in that I know everything about the ending and almost nothing about the rest of the game. And I'm enjoying it's like I'm having a wonderful steak dinner with a second plate of actual poop that I will have to eat later. And the steak is fantastic. It really is really good. But it's on the table. But I keep looking over knowing that I will have to eat the poop.

I didn't even know the steak was good. I didn't even know that. It's very good. And it also has a very, very weird thing that will only get more confusing with time because the context of me playing through it now is wildly different from the context of people playing it back then. So the first things first, I won't spoil any details about it in case you happen to play it in the future or others.

But there is a party member whose existence and storyline back in the day was the online pass equivalent for Mass Effect 3. He was a day one piece of DLC. And I say this without exaggeration. The character is literally the most important person that has ever existed in the history of that storylines universe. Wow. Okay.

And it was day one DLC. And it was straight up like we made it and then work got told to yank something for DLC. So we picked this. On par with Pop Zero True Ending or Asura's Wrath Final Mission. No, no, it's way worse than that because this is a party member that can come along with you on every single mission and opens up an enormous amount of like context and information about everything

in the whole thing. It's like if you went to see Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and his dad was only in the movie if you paid three extra dollars. Like it's literally that big of a deal. And so but now he's just integrated into the game. So that context is gone. Mass Effect 3 has a system where you have to achieve a certain amount of galactic readiness to get certain ending combinations, right?

And in the base game, very little was pulled in from your old saves. And in fact, a full half of the readiness points was based on you playing the multiplayer, which apparently was fantastic, but was still a gotcha multiplayer game. So people who didn't want to play the multiplayer would get to the end of the game and go, I don't have enough fucking points to get the good end with the fuck, right? God, there was such a...

But that multiplayer is now gone and a shit ton of the readiness comes in for your old your old choices in the prior games, which it should have been in the first place. God, that fucking mid-auts era of like just trying to reinvent the wheel over and over and over as games were expanding into what they what AAA means now, you know, trying to figure out like what cool new things you can do to like reintegration and all that shit where it's like everyone just kind of wants a really strong narrative that continues from where the

last one left off, you know? So to be clear, the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was apparently fantastic. It's gone now and that's a weird thing that people miss it. So at least it wasn't you weren't playing a bad multiplayer. But having it matter in any way, shape or form is ridiculous. Like, you know, I remember when I went back to Bioshock 2 and I was like, oh wow, there's a second disc here? What the fuck?

And it was like, oh yeah, there's a whole multiplayer suite for this thing. Yeah, it's a bad multiplayer. Yeah. And I was like, that's hilarious. I'm never going to look at it. And you just don't think about it again, you know? And like, I think in the end, I'm probably going to say that like, I feel like video games needed to have that era and they needed to have these giant

fuck ups to learn how to not implement like DLC that is a future proof and things like multiplayer campaigns that require, you know, you to be involved to play that in order to feed back into the single player because there's people that don't won't ever do that. And again, that's not future proof or anything that's server reliant. You know? So some people in the chat are pointing out a really good example for the character I'm talking about Mass Effect is what if all the telepathic

conversations with Craya in Cotor 2 were a day one DLC? Yeah, God, fuck, God, shit. That's horrible. Could you imagine? Oh, fucking imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So third, the ending that I will be playing through in this version is not the same ending that originally came out that extended cut thing that they did. I would not say it fixed it, but it definitely took some of the stink off and it's a much better ending regardless. And on top of that, and here's one of the kickers. They released something called the Leviathan DLC and the Citadel DLC. Leviathan very much softens the ending, but you don't have to pay for it anymore. It used to be get play 10 bucks to fix the ending a little bit and Citadel,

which is supposedly the best thing that ever came out of the series because it's literally you guys having like a birthday party with every character you've ever encountered in the history of anything. So, but that came out months and months and months later. So I'm playing a game that doesn't have like $30 of DLC to fix itself. I don't have to wait months for them to improve the ending from being a complete piece of shit. I don't have to play a multiplayer that I may not have to care about to get the ending that I want. The character that is super important is no longer day one DLC that is absolutely mandatory

but is just there to bulk up the cost. Etc. Right? And so it's like the game that I'm playing is the streamlined experience is completely different than the game people played on its release. And it's a very weird situation because there are people that are going to play through the whole series and go, I don't know what the big deal was the big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be me. And it's like, go watch the original.

It was a joke that you had to pay like $40 extra to get all the DLCs for it. That'd be me hitting the credits on three just going like, what the fuck was the big stink about? This was fine. It's this weird thing. And one of the things that they didn't change, which is probably the single thing that aged the most like milk out of all of it, was in Mass Effect 1 and 2, there was a character that was, I wouldn't call her popular, but people liked her named Emily Wong. She was a reporter that you dealt with.

I think when you played Mass Effect 1, you mentioned that you ran into Emily Wong. She asked you to do some little side quest. Rings a bell, yeah. Get a scoop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, rings a bell. In 2, you also help her get a scoop, right? And it's just like, ah, it's a reporter character. Well, in 3, they announced on Twitter that the character died.

She's not in Mass Effect 3 at all. And they put out a tweet going, this is what happened to Emily Wong. And they described that she died. And instead, there is a reporter character that you can invite on your ship for reporter shenanigans. And it is voiced and face modeled and acted by Jessica Chobot of IGN. A decision that was weird and off-putting then and is hilariously dated now. That's what that was about. Okay.

Oh, she was also from G4. Okay, because I don't know, I don't know who that is and I didn't know any of this story, but I do remember those names and people being upset about ME3 and that was a part of it at the time. Okay, so they killed off a character and then replaced it with a cameo. Yeah, so here's the other thing is that the Mass Effect series, the Commander Shepard, like the male actor, clearly was scanned in from some Swedish supermodel. Like his head quality is way better than everybody else's. And they didn't do that for Jessica.

Her character model looks like a freak. It's crazy. It's fucking crazy how fucking weird she looks. It's like Jessica Chobot's a pretty lady. This thing is a fucking freak. Okay. And I've never met this lady, I'm sure she's very nice. Her line reads are not good.

It's not great. And every time I walk by her part of the ship, you talk to her because she's got story-relevant dialogue and I'm like, you shouldn't fucking be here. You should be the character that I already liked instead of this weird cameo from a person I barely heard of and don't care about. And like, it's just like, oh, it's somebody posted, the Commando Joe post, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to send this photo to Willie and get his fucking internal gut reaction. We're fine.

I'm good. No, you look at that phone and tell me what you think of that character model. You look at it, you coward. It's bad. It's not good. Sure. Yeah. It's like, it's weirdly noticeably worse than like all the NPCs that are around her when you run into it.

So yeah, I just aged like shit. So I got up to it and was like, oh, I forgot this shit happened. Weird. So the list of all of those problems, which are all very different from each other and are all emblematic again of that triple era, triple A birth of triple A era, 95% of them are gone now. And also this you needed this game. You needed these fuck ups. You needed this to this example to be made of like all the things not to do when you're trying to just just tap it in.

You know, just finish the story off and send it home. Let me just check something out. It sounds like every every mistake possible that like you don't want with triple A 6 2012. And if there were more gambling loot box gacha things in, you know, in the headspace at the time, those would have probably plagued it too. So fun fact, this game crashed and burned and all this controversy and everybody mad at the time. And I don't know if you remember, but like people were like, change the ending fucking do it. We deserve better. You lied to us.

And, you know, I was into that at the time because I had vividly vivid memories of interviews with Casey Hudson who had said, oh dude, there's going to be 14 different endings. I'm going to take this this that it was like all complete bullshit. I remember when people went and protested physically in front of Bioware in Montreal. Now that's like stupid and ridiculous. I remember when that happened. But the the core of it of like, this isn't good enough. You always better. I think had some merit considering how bad it was.

And I don't know if you remember that the blowback from like websites was like, look at these entitled babies who want their thing. The ending's fine. In interviews with the legendary edition, like you they walk up to people like, hey, how do you guys feel about the ending? Yeah, we fucked it. Yeah, we really fucked it up. Yeah, we should have done it better. Oh, yeah. It's like all that all that context all that time all that distance is great.

It's fantastic. But I just did a quick look. EA made all these mistakes. Like this is the most EA pokey. Do this, do this, do this, do this game that I can think of. And they did make a lot of mistakes and that did happen. And luckily they learned from all of those mistakes so that they could release Dead Space 3 a year later with forced co-op and then kill the franchise for not selling 14 million copies. Yeah.

So like, I totally understand what you're talking about. Like, yeah, a game had to make these mistakes so that we could learn nothing. And then the same studio and the same publisher could put fucking anthem out a couple of years ago. At the very least, outside the bubble that is EA, there is like, there are lessons learned from looking at that dumpster fire, you know, there are lessons learned from a lot of fuck ups in that era that you kind of are like. And again, like there's stuff that you just, you know, you realize, oh, this is just never going away. Like the gas thing is just, it's never going away. There's stuff that's just going to become games forever.

But I mean, I haven't heard about like endings and important shit being sold piecemeal as DLC. For a while. For a long time now. Those three examples are the ones that I can think of. Yeah. Ossura, ME3 and... PopZero. PopZero.

I think that's all I can... And the Ossura's Wrath one, when I found out like what the deal with that was, I was like, oh, I kind of get it. They were planning to do a sequel and then it was like, oh, it's not going to happen. So the story is never going to end. So they wanted to like give, but that should have been for free. That's just what I'm planning. Oh well. But that's been pretty much it for me.

I'm playing a lot of filthy trash this week. I'm playing death trash. I'm playing fucking Grime in Forgotten City, which is that Skyrim mod. More Mass Effect, which is, again, great. But it's such a weird feeling of like, I feel like I'm being hoodwinked. Like, this is totally Mass Effect 3. I'm like, no, this is the Mass Effect 3 of today. Many, many, many years later.

You check more of that crap out over twitch.tv slash Pat Stares At. Oh, early, early ass review of death trash. It's fucking good. Go check it out. Okay. It's called death trash. Let's take a quick break and we will be right back. All right.

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The trailer dropped for Stone Ocean. And it is a Netflix exclusive. That's weird. It is, but it's also not in the sense that Netflix just paying attention and goes, yeah, people like JoJo. Give it. They like it. We're taking it now. The question is the older JoJo is going to come to the, oh, it's right there.

It's already there. Three. Oh, I see three seasons. They were, okay. So I know that they got up to start. I know that they got Stardust Crusaders and they got them late. I think they're still going to have to get the rest, you know, perhaps later on or such. They were always after, of course, Crunchyroll and such, but.

This is a bizarre. Yeah. So I typed in JoJo and I got JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Seasons one and two and thus spoke Kishibe Rohan. They got the Rohan specials. And nothing else. I don't see. Apparently Japanese Netflix has some parts that that American doesn't.

It's confusing. Sounds like a good time to use Express VPN. God damn it. Right. It's a confusing thing because up until this point, Crunchyroll had them all and then Netflix is getting involved for part six because they know it's a big deal, but clearly they're jumping on the bandwagon at a point in which they didn't have the rest of it all available for people to catch up to now, but they still are like, yeah, but come here for the exciting,

next part of JoJo anyway. So that weirdness aside, nothing else to say. The trailer looks fucking baller. It looks amazing. The casting is fucking perfect and the music is great and everything looks absolutely perfect. I have literally nothing to say except I can't wait. I'm crossing my fingers for dub voice to be the Kara Buck. Of course.

That like the world would be on the wrong timeline if she did not get it. It's the one thing that would still prove that we can have nice things in this world has to happen. Are you ready for a bunch of people to be like, why is Dio sleeping in a bed with Poochie? Uh, probably. Also, we got to find out. We got to get the Poochie casting too. I wonder how that's going to go. Also, so, so there's two things, right?

Part one is not part one, but the first thing is Kira needs to get cast. And the second thing is Shoko Nakagawa needs to sing the intro. Sure. She sings the, she sings Soraito Days, Guru Lagann. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Do that. Do that. And she's a giant Jojo mark and she's hyper obsessed with the friend with the series and has also seen her interviewing Araki and losing her mind and fucking freaking out and licking Jotaro and all that shit. Oh wait, is she the fucking psycho? She's a super fan. The one that's sitting there in the Jotaro costume going, I want Jotaro to get me pregnant and spit on me and all that shit. And she also did the sickest cover of Sono Chino Sarame that anyone's ever done to date, which like.

Oh yeah, she definitely has to do the song. That's just, that's just obvious. No, go listen to her cover of Sono Chino Sarame and like realize that she has to do part six. There's just no other way around it. So there's two things that have to happen for Stone Ocean to be perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, who else are you going to give it to someone that might get stabbed by Shoko if she doesn't get the gig?

Let's see it go down the list. Although ideally her recording it from jail would be appropriate. It would be the most appropriate from a Florida prison. Why did, why the fuck would she go to Florida? Ah, it's a thing. Don't worry about it. God. Hey, to everybody excited for JoJo's Pizarre Adventure Part 6.

I have one recommendation for you. Go catch up on the sixth sense. If you haven't seen it already. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. You know, I would, I would. I don't think it would be bad to recommend that you also literally if you want to, if you're curious and you don't want to wait, reading it ahead of time and then just enjoying the watch when it comes would also be a really valid way to go.

Exactly. There's like, like, some of you might be out there going like, nah, I just want to enjoy it as the anime. And it's like, you, you, you can read it ahead of time and still enjoy this journey. You know, I think you might, I think weird. I'm in a weird place where like, I know a bunch of the stuff, but I never personally read it. And my personal excitement for the anime is that this is going to be the most fun in terms of copyright hilariousness so far. It's going to be batshit, but it's also going to be like the journey through this season is going to be crazy. Like you can really save yourself a lot of problems by just reading it and then enjoying the ride.

Like it's, it's, you know, that's all I can say. Just, I know. And if you don't want to, that's fine. Then just enjoy it that way too. But yeah, I'm, I'm torn. I'm torn because there's, I know it's not the same, but I'm just telling you maximum enjoyment might come for some of you by, by reading it first. It's a very weird situation because manga gets adopted. Yes.

Adapted to anime so regularly, but because like personally I would much rather watch a show than read a manga. I understand part of that is because I can blow through a manga in like, and I did like, I'll say 35 volumes of berserk in a weekend kind of thing, you know, like just fly through it. I don't even appreciate it. I just, I want to know what happens right now and my patience is not enough to even focus on every individual play page. So there's a weird element of like, this is me being crazy, but there's a part of it that I assure, I'm sure applies to others, which is now that the Part 6 anime has been announced. It has gone from being, hey, I should really catch up on the Jojo manga because I haven't read the Part 6, to do I really just want to read all the storyboards for the new anime season so that I don't get spoiled? Right, like the context changes me. Wait, why are people saying the whole season is going to be their day one? Is that a thing? I seriously doubt that.

The Netflix drop? Yeah. Is it? Oh, I don't think so. Is that? I think that some guy said that. Is that confirmed? Because no, no, no, no, don't make things up. Netflix does that sometimes, but Netflix also sometimes does things weekly. There are shows that get updated playlists on weekly, so no, don't take that as truth.

I think that's the fake news. Yeah. Don't assume just because it's on Netflix, it's all going to be there. I'm going to go look at my own fake news, excuse me. Yeah, there have been multiple shows on Netflix that have been a weekly release for a while now, so no, that's not a thing anymore. Anyway, look, I hear you on the storyboard thing and I'm not going to say anything more. I'm just going to say that it would be good and that I suggest it. If you don't want to, if you have any resistance at all, then fine, just wait and watch it.

But if you are willing to and you don't have any resistance or any problems with enjoying the manga, you probably like this whole thing more. You'll probably enjoy yourself more if you went and read it and then enjoyed the ride as it got animated. That's it. So there is something actually super weird about its release. It's coming out on Netflix in December, but it's coming out on Japanese TV in January. Very weird. Well, anyway, yeah, if you can wait, if you don't care all those stuff, then good for you. No problem. Damn, and I like that new theme to kicking in.

You're just like, OK, here's the first glimpse of a song I'm going to be listening to for a while now. Looks good. You have to kind of like forget about JoJo for a while before it comes back each time. And when you do, it's like, yay, something to look forward to again. It's exciting. Yeah, OK, why is it really pushing the manga? Because there's stuff that can hit you that are probably going to be like spoil discussed online and shit. There's stuff that's going to be. I can't wait for that to happen in the anime.

It's a it's a crazy season. And there's a lot of things and there's just. Yeah, it's it's it's some inoculation of sorts, you know, but it's fine. It's fine. Whatever. Do what you want. Yeah, why wouldn't you push the there you go. Anyway, so that's JoJo December. It's coming. Then we have. This fucking.

This Titanfall game. No, man. Oh, OK, all right, let's do it. I couldn't make heads and tails of the story. I got confused. Well, because now we're into it. You know how we grasp of it. You know how we talk about like the levels of madness that Eve online goes into? Yes, this is approaching that. It's getting there.

And because Titanfall and its servers being hacked and the same Titanfall project and all of this have they've come to a head and we've gotten to the climax of the story. And answers have been uncovered and credit to, you know, there's a lot of people over on the reddit that were discussing this, but I want to say upper echelon gamers on YouTube put together a pretty good breakdown on the fucking insanity of the story and the truths that we are now learning. So to catch you back up very quickly, Titanfall Ones servers became the product of a mass DDoS attack that stopped people from being able to play it for a long time. Eventually, and the malicious messages and shit were put up and it was very clear you couldn't,

you know, no one could play it and such. It eventually started happening to Titanfall too. And then that was the state for a very long time. Yet people were still there. There were still people that could buy these games, not knowing that the servers were completely fucked. So there's a whole movement to be like, hey, please fix these servers. Respond, please fix these servers. Like it's it's insane.

We can't fucking play and people might be spending their money on a literally like a disk that just does nothing on a coaster. OK, so then all of that led to the story the other week where Apex Legends got hacked and then became unplayable. And there was a message on the boot screen on the launch screen that was basically Titanfall is under attack. Go to save Titanfall dot com. When you go to save Titanfall dot com, there's a detailed description of exactly what I was just telling you about how both servers, how both games came to be hacked and how they were continuously under attack and how people were basically just holding the game, you know, for ransom or whatever their hostage, you know, there's nothing anyone could do about it. So, you know, they also there's a bunch of the people that hack Apex point everyone to save Titanfall dot com.

Save Titanfall goes, yeah, we don't have anything to do with that apex hack. We just this this has been a project that we've wanted people to know about for the longest time. But yeah, the but this is but whatever like the apex, like whatever that was, we don't know. Then on the Titanfall forums, someone comes out and makes a giant post describing what they can do to fix the problem. And like looking at all the data looking at everything that was posted. There's a lot of there's a very technical breakdown on exactly how the games are being hacked on save Titanfall dot com. And this person kind of comes out with a breakdown of all of that and says like here's how we could fix the problem. But, you know, like I'm working with some other people that are very talented and such and I think we can do this.

But like we need to get cooperation from Respawn in order to make some of this happen by like, you know, working with them personally on their servers and fixing some of these things that I'm proposing here. Right. So everyone starts pushing this and this becomes a fairly like it's a light at the end of the tunnel, you know, everyone. And then this becomes the move. It's like, OK, we can save Titanfall. We can do it. This guy knows what he's talking about. And then someone starts talking to upper echelon. Gamers who has basically leaks and screenshots and details and info and a whole lot of discord logs that point to this giant crazy

conspiracy where the person who came out as the savior of Titanfall was actually the person who was involved in hacking it in the first place. Of course they were. And it was unclear initially as to like whether like how many people there were and then like what this this whole like what the point of all this was. And then again, tons and tons of logs got put together and then eventually the save Titanfall dot com people also put together a giant like crazy almost hundred page document with logs and shit about like what these backroom discussions were between the people that were hacking and shutting down Titanfall. And it turns out that I might be getting a lot of these details wrong. So like check the links I'm going to put in the docket for this, you know, but to the best of my ability to recount this insanely dense story that I kind of got is there was an initial person who hacked Titanfall one and was really obsessed with it and like and like had grievances or whatever.

And then some other people came along and discovered like how and what was going on with that. And then they got together and formed a group of people that basically all had grudges against Titanfall and were looking to keep the game inaccessible and unplayable. And then start this campaign of like telling people to save Titanfall and getting the public on their side. They did an interview with Eurogamer about this as well in order to get some press and they also would target streamers that were trying to play. They would go to their their games and target them with specific messages so that you'd have these big public moments. And this was all in order to get Respawn to directly work with them to give them control or access to the games servers and so that they would have the ability to freely control them. And in their backroom discord discussions, they talked about how by seizing control of the servers and getting them from Respawn, they could use all of this to basically support their ultimate goal of resurrecting a canceled game called Titanfall Online that was supposed to come out in China that was canceled.

And they want to resurrect it with a community based build of that game with their own mods and their own shit. And so they are trying to shut down the entire Titanfall server base across both games and even Apex if need be to get to basically create a ransom situation that forces them to get control, take control of Titanfall from Respawn and then push this resurrection of Titanfall Online. I think my favorite part of this is like it's such an elaborate plan that so much of it was actually going well. But the end goal is, alright, we're going to take control of the servers, like, oh, because we're helping out. And then we're going to take all this stuff and we're going to do it. And like that part of the plan seems to have no details because it seems to assume that Respawn's going to go, oh, I guess they took the code. Okay, it's done.

Oh, well. It's completely bad. No, they get fucking sued and arrested. It's complete bad shit. And like, I have no idea. I don't understand why the Titanfall Online Resurrection Project is such a big deal to them to begin with. I don't know if they're disgruntled people who worked on the original game who are mad that it got canceled. No, no, no, no, no.

That's that's not what it is. I'll tell you right now. But then why do they have access to its source code and why do they have so much in on this? Because they're crazy. Because so then they got their hands on the canceled game then, or at least enough of its source code to do something that has full community control with it. There were ex devs? Because that's the thing. They're ex devs?

That's the thing is like, you're like, I don't know how they would have so much like. Oh, then they're crazy ex devs. I don't know. It's so confusing how they would start out with so much power and so like with with the fucking TFO build and everything like that to begin with, unless they were given that shit. So it's super weird. But yeah, your own knockoff game. Yeah. And their whole thing is like, there's like the conversations behind, you know, the closed doors and shit are all about like, fuck this fuck Titanfall.

I don't care if it's if it never works again. We don't care about any of it. If it dies, then who can then like good. It's all it'll it'll help us bolster support around the TFO community. You know, that we're going to create. So it sounds like this insane case of revenge for a game that got canceled. And then and now it bleeds all the way up to apex. This isn't Charles Chowder.

This isn't Charles Chowder. Guys, this is you're just going to get soon. The idea that like, yeah, you're actually going to get them to negotiate with terrorists and hand over like the keys to Titanfall one entirely and just not. Yeah, it just works. We're just going to walk off into the sunset and that'll be it. It'll be a happy community game that everyone did it. We got that. We got the source code.

We can resurrect it. Hello, officer. Yeah. It's it's it's wild. And then it's and like the back and forth of like people that are like taking on multiple pseudonyms. And the whole game is not like it's not just the petty revenge. It's petty revenge. But also we have to manipulate the community into being on our side.

You know, so yeah, just make it just make a knockoff game. I I prefer last week when I thought it was just some idiot who loves clout going, hey, look at me. Look how good I am. I can shut it. I can shut the game down. Just make like a game called tumble deities or something. Like the idea that it was possibly the people who just were mad about the game being canceled coming back sounds like Saturday morning cartoon villain shit. Oh, yeah, this is this is this is Cobra Commander putting missile silos in every like red rocket rest like burger restaurant.

Isn't this exactly fucking syndrome and and the Incredibles? Pretty close. Pretty close. You know, just or Arkham Knight like any of these like take your pick. Yeah. Literally just the Incredibles again, you know, so anyway, I don't know. I don't know how this concludes, but everyone in the community has now been made aware of this entire fraudulent thing and they never would have gotten caught. The crazy thing about this, too, from all the logs that think that they have is that this whole thing never would have happened if they weren't trying to play this community manipulation game.

You know, if they were if they weren't trying to like get the people on their side. And like accidentally saying things or revealing things and, you know, saying things that's like, why would you know this or like, why would you have, you know, like things that just didn't line up and again credit to this YouTube channel that did some fucking crazy investigative reporting and digging here, you know, on the truth because it's it's it's a batshit conspiracy. This type of person that does this stuff tends to be madly in love with the attempt that like righteous attention they receive. They can't help it. It's it's like the evil version of when people can't wait to show off their fan game. OK, right. It's like, look at my fan game that I made.

Everyone's like, you should show you should shut your fucking mouth. But they're like, but I want people to tell me it's cool because it's cool, right? Yeah. People are like, it is cool. And then Nintendo goes, it is cool. Die. Yeah. And then and then like or or even preemptive indignation, like, why won't Nintendo buy my game from me?

You know, sometimes you just get these these occasional like wacky ass. I'm that man. Why won't Nintendo hire me that man? Yeah, so. You know, we'll see where this goes. But for now, that plan is obviously a fucking scrap and any community based Titanfall online resurrections will be shunned and hated by the entire community indefinitely forever for all time. So now that your goals are squashed, what happens? Is it still worth it to keep hammering the servers?

Do you give up and just fucking put your tail between your legs? What do you do? You know. Spite. Do you just shut down like both games now out of spite? Yeah, fuck it. That's what I would do. Cost money, though.

But they could. They could. But if I'm in this situation, I'm rich. So you get to have a little bit of spite freebies. Yeah. Again, I was so convinced that the this was just some fucking script. Katie's looking for attention and shit because like even again, you go to you go to the breakdown of it on save Titanfall.com. And it shows you how like they're just like they're having like what is it?

What was it like? Um, like n word bomb or n word flood, you know, as the name of the code that's like like hammering the servers and just all kinds of shit in there in the way that it's being hacked. That sounds like it's just dumb edgy kids, you know. Well, hey, guess what? It's dumb edgy adults who want the attention. Like your, your age guess was off by about 10 years. But the rest of it's like, yeah, no, it's some script kitties who want some attention. What I would love to see is the cost of this entire operation.

And I'd like to discover at what point between that and the effort put in, it would have been cheaper to just work with that team. On a different game featuring robots and pilots that you could have made if you're that talented. No, but it's, it's going to be like, okay, this, this is off topic. This is this is I'm going on tangent here. I love characters and I like to have a story continue, right? But like most of the time, and I mean 99% of the time, those aren't the most important things, particularly in a game. It's the style and it's what you're actually doing. So let's take bloodstained, for example.

I'm sad that Dracula isn't there. But bloodstains fucking Castlevania game and it's a pretty good one. It's not the end of the world that Dracula can't be there. You could easily make a Titanfall ish game that has ogres that that fall down that that that's ogre strike. Sure, sure. You drop your ogres, your ogre is coming in hot with whatever. Like it's and being being a hacker that knows how to DDoS a game server doesn't make you a developer. But being an ex developer of a Titanfall game makes you a developer.

So as far as the capabilities are concerned, you know, I feel like if this is who these people are, then more than any other just hackers, they might be capable of doing it. It's it's just weird. It's like we've seen this over and over and it's like this weird obsession where it like it has to be the exact same thing. It has to be. And like this this does tie into like all the fan games that we tell everyone to shut up about that get shut down. Like, you know, hey, I'm in the streets of rage thing or hey, I made a Metroid thing. Isn't that cool? And then maybe they get killed, right?

And it's like, if you're able to make a really good Metroid game, that's a fan game or really good Pokemon game, that's a fan game. Why don't you just make your own thing that you get to have? Yeah. And it can be yours. And you don't have to live in that fucking caveat where it's like, well, it's only if I can and never make any money off of it. I don't own it and I can get sued yada yada yada. Do do your own fucking thing and own it. Agreed.

There's a game I don't like is clearly a Super Metroid fan game or mother for turned into its own thing. You know, yeah. Oh, God, what's it called? It's weird thing. What the fuck is that called? Oddity oddity oddity. Okay, right. Yeah, you just got, you know, but here's the thing, right?

There's two reasons to answer the question as to why one is because and this is fully valid is there's a lot of times when someone really talented will just try to recreate what they know and they like in order to learn about how to make games. Right. So sometimes it's literally just a learning process and they're like, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like I I'm only doing this like those insane mods of Dark Souls are, you know, like I'm only making this this remake of whatever, you know, Nintendo game that I love in order to learn about this process. And then I'm definitely going to do my own shit afterwards. So you're looking at the learning process, right? And then the other thing is that but also combined with like a deep, deep like nostalgia and dedication to the franchise and like the like a fandom level where you're like, I love the I love this franchise this game, this whole thing, like more than any other thing I want to work on.

I'm not as passionate about any of my own ideas as I am about this world that I already I already care about. And I'm going to take those skills and put it into that version because, you know, like creating my own Pokemon list is not as like or rather like creating a Pokemon world that has my own Pokemon is something is way more appealing than creating my own Temp Temps. You know, I totally get that. But like on a practical basis, like it's just it's self defeating. Yeah. Yeah, no. The second one is a is a big cause of why a lot of this shit just ends up going tits up and never coming out. And it's the cause for the video that I made, you know, but but the former, the reason the reasoning where it's like, yeah, I'm just learning how to code and I'm going to probably make my own shit after this.

But for now, this is my practice is I'm recreating Super Metroid. Then fuck. Yeah, I get like by all means, you know, or I'm hacking Earthbound and doing my own, you know, weird mods of it. And then once I get my bearings, I'm going to get RPG maker and make Undertale, you know. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that that's probably my my favorite example of like that's functionally mother for in all but name. Excuse me, game maker, not RPG maker.

Yeah, it's also way better than Earthbound. So that's what it is, is just there's there's some folks that are doing it for the practice and you're seeing the practice project and there's some folks who are like, they're like, they care way more about, you know, whatever that world was. And of course, you know, like, if you have something like Sega where they're encouraging fan games and like Sonic fan games are more than OK and such, then like, then you get a community that like, you know, can thrive on that and people can work together. So it starts to go into other reasoning once you start getting to like territory where like the creator is in the OK with it, you know, but all the sketchy stuff that we see where you're just like, this is destined for cease and desist. That's that's the reason why, you know, like, you know, it's a really good example of this, which is I said there was actually a massive thread on the subreddit relatively recently over us talking about

Crowsworn, which just got a Kickstarter and it aced it. It's going to come out no problem in which we were we were joking about how like laughably similar its art style is to Hollow Knight and game style. Yeah. And we were joking about how like there's there's like inspired by and then there's like I need a magnifying glass to make sure the assets aren't the same, which was and it still looks good person. That's a joke. I'm not implying that Crowsworn actually stole assets from Hollow Knight. That's ridiculous.

But like I love Hollow Knight. I think Hollow Knight is one of my favorite games ever. Mm hmm. If Hollow Knight was owned by Bandai Namco or some shit and the devs wanted to make another Hollow Knight, but couldn't. And so they made Crowsworn. I'd be like, cool. New thing. Yeah.

Just as good as the old thing. Yeah. Yeah. If I don't know, I love Dark Souls a whole bunch and they're putting out this Elden Ring game that has nothing to do with Dark Souls. Cool. It's a new thing just as good as old thing. I I'm resisting the urge to not fall into the tired wooly talking point of like new things good, you know, and sequel more of the same is good. Fine.

You recognize that. But the talent that made the thing you like can also make another new thing you don't know about that you like. You know, one of my favorite games ever. I don't talk about that much is made. It's called Loan Survivor. It's a Silent Hill game that's not made by anybody with Silent Hill. Mm hmm. Um, and it was made by a gentleman who made an indie game called Quiet Mountain 2.

Mm hmm. Uh, which again was all hell too, but he changed the name so count it, right? Mm hmm. And it's like, hey, cool new thing. It doesn't have to be like Silent Hill actually like killed itself with like it has to be Silent Hill all the time and it has to have pyramid head and it has to have this and it has to have that. And it's like, no, just do a new thing. And yes, I am aware that I talked about how much I didn't like bloodstained as much because it doesn't have Dracula. Mm hmm.

But that doesn't mean I didn't play bloodstained because of it. Um, I've, I've, what I think the way I said this some time ago was nobody like nobody knew. Nobody would have asked for Bayonetta before Bayonetta existed. They would have asked for more devil may cry. You know? Yeah. And if you go, what would you like more of they would just, everyone would say more devil may cry than that be it. And as someone who fucking loves that franchise, it's like, yeah, that's fine.

That's cool. That's good. But if you're the talented people that know how to do this kind of game, I want to see new ideas from you. I want to see you create IPs that you have control over that can build on top of what we got before and do other things. You know, like, and now we want Bayo two and now we want Bayo three and we're waiting on that. But like, I'm just like, I'm like, Hey, man, if the people that I fucking trust that made these games are getting together and working on another thing, whatever it is, let it rock. I'm super open because I trust your talent and your skills.

Oh, man. Somebody just summed up this entire conversation in like a classic quote. And it was, sir, I would like a faster horse. Are you familiar with that story? I'm not. It's from about Ford when he invented the automobile. If I asked people what they wanted, they would have told me. Oh, yes.

Faster horse. Yes. I've heard that before. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Exactly. That is it.

That is it to a tee. You know, and I mean, like this and it just, it gets into everything is like every time and everything. Like there's nothing wrong with liking something and wanting more of it. Like the, to the point where you shut down new things is where I'm like, you lose is where you lose me. You know, there was a, there was a, a thread I retweeted that was talking about like, you know, that was 80% new characters, 20% returning in a fighting game or 80% returning characters, 20% new, you know, and vice versa.

And it's like, those are extreme numbers. And the whole point is like, yes, obviously this is not the 5050 compromise that would be valid and fine by anyone's metric. But the point is in a non-compromising way, when we always want to go for that 80% familiar, 20% new, like that sucks. Like, like, yeah, you end up with four games in a row that have almost the same roster. And that's it. And, and yes, Soul Calibur five represents a, a botching of that ratio because the new

characters were not compelling enough. But Tekken three and Street Fighter three and Garo Mark of the Wolves. And there's so many games that represent not that where I'm more calm that 10 like a poison pill example, because everybody looks at Street Fighter three new generation and goes, Hey man, they tried all new characters and that game bombed. And it's like, I think new generation sucks ass compared to like alpha two at the time. Giant attacks way better and third strikes way better than that. But like, it definitely wasn't just the character choices.

Certainly not. Like when the gameplay gets worse, the gameplay gets worse no matter what, even if it was familiar characters and the gameplay was worse, then that's a separate, that's a separate aspect we're discussing. But in terms of just familiarity, when the game is good, like, you know, and they, and that's what you have to like account for here. Like the no amount of like Soul Calibur kids coming out and being inferior versions of what they were or whatever the cases is going to cover that up.

But Mark of the Wolves comes along and has like, you know, one returning cast member and his fucking solid top to bottom. Street Fighter three, like they had to put multiple that to upgrade it over time and get it to the point. Third strike was that and that's a gameplay improvement thing. You know, but I, and I understand too as well that when I say this, like, it is not a popular opinion. It is one that most people would resist because a faster horse is what I understand.

And it is what I like. It's what I like. I'm already here. I invested in what I like. You're putting, asking me to put faith in the unknown, you know, my favorite example of this is it's Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy's got like some birds that are the same and some spell types and like general themes, maybe, and like a type of rock that they like to keep between the games.

And aside from that, outside of some relatively rare outliers, they could have all been completely different and not have that name on them at all. Like there's like Final Fantasy is by far the least connected franchise ever. And a bunch of those games are great. And so, and this so we can actually just ride this wave right into the next bit because it's like, you know, when I get lots of messages from people asking me, dude, how bummed are you that the final Street Fighter five character wasn't Makoto? I'm like, I don't give a shit.

I love Makoto. That's cool. I'm in a holding pattern for SF six at this point. She's she got her return last time. I didn't expect it. That's fine. Like it not it not happening again is like totally okay. You know, Oro didn't get a chance last time.

It's dope to see him come back. He completely missed out on the last game for Street Fighter six. The core grappler will be Hakan. And it's the same part of the starting roster. And it's the same for, you know, like, you know, like, uh, like how bad do you want Bikin to be on that DLC list for Shrive? And I'm like, yeah, I don't I don't care. It would be it'd be fine, but she doesn't have to.

If she wasn't there, I'd be totally okay with it. You know, I'm fine with the new. And at the same time, once you get to a point where you're like, well, we start completing the roster and then you start getting to a point where four seasons later, we're now bringing everyone back, then it's like, all right, sure. Let's see. Or let's see what it's going to look like when you eventually do bring her back. You know, don't get this confused.

All right. I look at Luke, for example, in SF five. And what I see is a dude that sucks ass and I don't give a shit about, but that's not because he's a new character. It's because he looks like he sucks ass. There's a bunch of new characters in Street Fighter five that I think are dope. I think Abigail rules. I think G is incredible.

Those are the two that I like mainly. But like, I think Luke just looks like a fucking putz like the most nothing. Like, I don't, he's an MMA guy with a shitty American flag tattoo. Yeah, I disagree. I like him. But we got to look at the actual to get to the story. We got to look at Oro. Yeah, which she's cool.

You guys are right. Akira. And yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of new characters that were that were pretty dope all together. What were they? Were they like 5050? I wonder because did I did I like invent a character in my mind? I feel like there's an SF five character.

That's just some chick with this with like a like a baton. Some cop with the baton. Falk. No, not her. Poison. No. I think I got it. I'm going to look at your debt.

The word baton means you're definitely thinking of Falk. And if Lucia. No, I'm scrolling to loose. Yeah, it's Lucia. Yeah, she's from Final Fight 3. Oh, man, who gives a shit? I do. She's like final fight role.

That's fine. That's a cool. That's a cool thing. I'm glad you put Lady Striker into the game. I like the fact that like, you know, it's like if we're not going to do if the final fight is dead, then then then we can bring it into this franchise. That's dope. That's fine.

Nothing wrong with that. Anyway, um, that's why you need new characters. So you don't end up with Lucia. Lucia's Lucy. Nothing wrong with that. They had to basically reinvent her from that era anyways, considering how old it is. She basically is new.

You might as well make a new character. There's nothing wrong with Lucia. That's fine. Anyways, um, the, uh, yeah, so we got to see Oro. Um, I, uh, it's interesting seeing how they integrate his system into the five one. We've talked about it before. Um, and, uh, it's, it's interesting seeing too as well, like how they go, all right, we're going to give him everything, you know, but he needs to be able to compete

in a game where someone with full super and full V trigger can pretty much one shot you. So how are we going to do that? And that's by making him even nuttier than he was before. You know, so he's got like the, um, he's got the new combo filler kick. He's got the, the V trigger one and, uh, or two where he gets the extra hop, um, calling out five rocks instead of three. So they bring back some of the, the variability as well.

Looks pretty cool. Um, and instead of having his arm tied back, he's just juggling his, his, his turtle. So that's fun. Akira wearing underwear. Yes. Um, he was the, the coloring of the knots on his belt in third strike were extremely unfortunate. Um, Akira is in it.

She's fucking dope. Her air combos have the exact gravity and rhythm that they did in, in, um, rival schools and project justice. So, uh, uh, that's a really cool throwback as well. Um, the flash when she does her tardy counter or her double team attack is exactly like rival schools. So that's cool. Um, I super love the fact that, uh, the theme from the intro to the, to rival schools, one

plays when like her theme is her music's playing as well. That's just bad, bad ass. So, you know, at the end of the day, yes, sometimes the old thing is cool. Sometimes, sometimes the new thing is cool. Sometimes I, as I tweeted the, the stylish dressed KOF character design is cool. Sometimes the big freak is cool. I love all kinds of fighting game things and that includes the MMA fighter, the, the person who is kind of like representing what modern day fighting looks like in real life.

And, um, the way I was just, I was talking to Reggie about this is, um, when street fighter two exploded, um, when you thought of a fighter, you thought of martial artists wearing karate geese and Muay Thai gear and Bruce Lee in the, in the, the tights, you know, boxers. Yep. And that was the image, right? And if MMA was then what it is today, that look of an MMA fighter would have been just as quintessential to the genre.

Oh, my issue isn't that he's an MMA fighter. My issue is that we're stuck with Brian. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not talking about that. I'm just, I'm just saying the overall, the categorization of that type of fighter is something that like it took a while to get it into the, the, into the, the rosters of these games. I feel as if like around the era of like the F four, you know, um, or so, like you started to get into, like you started to see kind of like, like UFC type looking people or,

or, um, uh, Mia showing up in Dead or Alive five and shit like that. But it happened later because like that, that was a gradual thing that happened with fighting, you know? So, um, yeah, I like seeing that archetype show up more these days. Now that being said, uh, yeah, this is the look at Street Fighter six. His name is Luke, probably the poster boy. He's probably the Alex for Street Fighter six, who will be there insane. You are absolutely crazy.

This character will never come back. You have lost your mind. Are you serious right now? Yes. Did you watch the presentation of the character? Of course not. So what the fuck are you talking about? So they said he's the future of Street Fighter six.

Literally. Oh God, then fucking give up on us. Why are you talking out of your ass with so many people? Why are you talking out of your ass with so much confidence because I expected Capcom to know what they're doing out of your ass with so much confidence. They literally introduced him as the future of the franchise. I'm out of my mind. I'm insane.

Anyways, all right, everyone is out of their mind then. So the presentation where they introduced the character the three seconds before the trailer starts, they say, take a look at something that hints at where the where the franchise is going to go. And this this tells us more about the future of Street Fighter. So we shall see. What else is going on with the game? So they they Max immediately kind of went straight into the Captain

Commando theories and it was like, what is that? Is that a thing? And then it's like, hold on a minute. The way that the Capcom logo appears has a flame that looks exactly like Captain Fire shooting out from the left side of the screen. So and then it shows you a star. So it's like, you know, that's not impossible. That's a possibility.

I want to be a man like him. Maybe that's it, right? But then, excuse me, other people started digging his head. So there's his hair looking like that, too. Yeah, other people started digging. They're like, hold on a minute. He also has moves that look identical to Joe from Street Fighter One. So is there a connection there?

And they're like, I don't know, maybe. And then another person's like, hold on a minute. He's got moves that also resemble Kevin or whatever from Street Fighter 2010. Oh, God, that get out. So then it's just like, it's just this whole thing of like, wait, what are is he all the references? Is he none? Is it like I didn't I thought the Captain Commando shit was nuts

until I saw the Capcom logo, you know? But yeah, between Joe, Kevin, Captain Commando, it's possible. Like the screenshots. Actually, no, I haven't seen the Kevin side by sides, but the Joe side by sides and the Captain Commando references and the star are not impossible. It could be. One thing's for sure is that like I could see them creating a new character that has ties to something bigger and more emblematic of Street

Fighter instead of just going completely, you know, like new on it. But yeah, there's some kind of connection. There's a reference to some guy that he wants to be like, we'll find out. Yeah. But that's that's that's what he is. He's the future of the franchise. He's going to probably be the Alex. SF six, he'll probably be the Alex.

And if they have any balls, they'll commit to bearded Ryu, you know, and bearded Ryu will be the guy standing in the background of the poster. I'm so bummed out. Yeah, OK, I fucking hate this character so much. Well. One of the this this looks like it was drawn on a fucking napkin. And then put just put into the game. You know, if I didn't know what I was talking about there, I would have

doubted myself with the with the absolute veracity with which that came that came back there. Oh, yeah, no, I'm completely wrong. If that was the case and everybody seems to agree it is that I'm super wrong that he's the face of the future. Now I'm just legitimately depressed because it means the Street Fighter six is probably going to suck ass because this character looks like shit. I think he looks cool. I think his his moves look super dope as well.

I like the his moves, the rapid fire punches. I like the the the moves. I like the sway. I like that style. You know, if there is and you know what, too, you know what I thought of? I thought about because people made the like, you know, it's Capcom's version of Guy Tendo from Bariqi One. And then I immediately thought of that one game that was rumored to exist years

ago that was Capcom working on a realistic fighter that then we never heard like anything about after that one thing. But it was a rumor and I remember like it was like probably maybe like a year or two into Street Fighter five where they're like, oh, yeah, they're working on like a realistic fighting game franchise that they want to start. And I was like, oh, I wonder if that was kind of where he was pulled from in some way or something. But then that game, maybe it's not going to happen.

Who knows, you know? But if that still is a thing, it could explain the MMA connection. But maybe that game is not a thing, you know? Do you think that it'll be awkward for the. The main character of SF six to have had that scandal where they mocked a bunch of ghosts in the Japanese suicide forest? No, I don't think so. Well, then why did they make Logan Paul the face of fucking Street Fighter?

There was a screenshot of him standing there with the same colors. I saw that screenshot. That was like, yeah, OK, you're not going to unsee that one. Um, and then there's the the Popeye arms that get all beefed up. But in the end, you know, I'm like, yeah, let's see it. Let's see where this goes. Let's see what they build it up to. If it if I mean, one thing's for sure.

Like if it was really awkward when you had that storyline where Luke was like looting during the BLM riots for fun and clout. That was a weird thing to put in Street Fighter Six. If he actually does have connections to Captain Commando in some way, shape or form and they do care about that character returning in some way. That'd be unexpected and interesting, but we'll see. It's the franchise. It's the it's the mascot of the company. I'm surprised he's like nowhere to be found for so long.

Is this them finally getting the rights back from Netherrealm so they could put a like Cobra back in the game like the lame Cobra? We can move on unless you have any more. I'm I'm pretty sure I'm done. No, you got think that's about this. You got you got a two or three more. Wait till we're in the middle of the next couple stories and then throw them. I don't have any right now.

I could think up more. Wait, wait for the middle of the next stories and then drop them. All right. OK. And so again, keeping the keeping the energy of like old thing, new thing. Here's a perfect combination of both. The new. Platinum Games title from Hideki Kamiya is called Soul Cresta. And it's a shbup.

But they're acting as if it's the sequel to some shit that came out 30 years ago. And it's all come on. It's a piece for Moon Presta. So what the fuck is that soul? Cresta is is it's an old school shmup. And I think they teased it on on on April Fool's Day. If I'm not mistaken, we were first introduced to this game on April Fool's Day. And then later on, it just kind of became real.

Hamster Corporation, Hideki Kamiya, you know. And you know, here's the thing. If you watch the shit that he tweets about, it makes perfect sense, because when he's tweeting out, there's there's all sorts of things he could develop instead of the thing he's already announced. It's tons of there's tons of shots of his personal arcade collection with him playing old shmups, old writing style games and old, you know, Gradius and shit like that.

Uh, so, yeah, here they got a basically being introduced as a new take on a classic. You have three ships you're controlling at the same time. They have basically unite more formations. And it's got Yuzo Koshiro music as well. And he's and he's like they had him tweet out. I didn't know his English was so was so good, by the way. That's pretty cool, but Yuzo Koshiro is pretty good.

Yeah, it was like basically like they had him tweet out this whole like fucking promo video about old shit from back in the day and being asked to work on this, this sequel after all this time. And, and, you know, they're playing this whole thing up. And yeah, no, it just at the end of the day, it looks like a pretty dope old school exclusive shmup. I think it's yes, I think it's PS4 exclusive. No, it's a switch and steam as well.

Oh, my bad. OK. Um. I can. OK, I have a complex headcanon that just appeared. I this thing looks fine. I it's not really my thing, but it looks like a cool enough little game. Shmups are great.

I can I can only hope that the reason why Kamiya and gang are putting out this shmup before even showing off a single piece of stuff about Bayo three is because during Bayonetta three's development, Kamiya kept putting shmup levels into the game and the team was like, stop it, stop doing that. And he was like, fuck you people, I'll go make my own. And that is this.

I buy it. I buy it. He clearly absolutely adores the genre. You know, and why wouldn't you look at a Garuga God like? I. I honestly think that. Like Bayo three is probably. The most regretful announcement announcement.

Of at least the last two, three generations in terms of like how badly timed it was. It's up there. It's got to be in the front running. Because everyone would have just been sitting here going, damn, they should make Bayo three. And that would have been the end of the thought, if nothing was said. Instead, when I tied Bayonetta into my search box, I get.

Day 1339. Of there is no news. And all this again, all this negative feeling that didn't need to be there. If you just held it close to the chest and then, you know. Yeah. Speaking of games that go on forever. And in and and and and spend eternity in development hell.

No, that's this, man. I don't know where you're going because it could be anything. We got a video. Of a canceled game from Gearbox called Duke. Oh, wow. Newcombe begins. Did you see before me? Did you see scumbags?

Slime freak pitchford making an ass of himself again? Wahapa. So he goes on Twitter and goes, influencers keep emailing us, begging us for codes and giving us this essay about their qualifications as to why we should send them a code for tribes of Midgar. Dude, the game's like $20. Like literally a day after the official Gearbox account goes,

hey, email us if you want a tribes of Midgar code. We're sending codes out for review. Come on and ask. Like, what is this, a fucking scam? Come ask us for review codes so we can shame you into trying to buy the game. Which game was that tribes of Midgard? What was that? I don't remember what that is.

You don't really need to. It's not that good, apparently. So it feels like they backed out of sending people codes and then was like, just buy it losers. OK, well, in any case, Duke Newcombe begins. Is a thing that was happening in 2008 while Duke Newcombe forever was stuck in development hell. So they started basically pitching another another Duke game

while still working on forever. And this was a animated vertical slice, as they call it, which is nothing because it's just it's fake gameplay. It's not actually gameplay. It's just the entire thing is a pre-rendered movie of the camera. Stand like faking, you know, whatever, the camera positioning itself behind Duke to make it look like a third person action game and then occasionally switching to other shots.

But it's just not sense. It's just a pre-rendered nothing. But yeah, you go really bad, too. Yeah, like a really bad pre-rendered nothing. Yeah, that's that. But that's why I for a second, I thought we were looking at something that might have been gameplay, because I was like, this isn't good looking. And if you're going to pre-render something, usually it would be too good to be true.

Like, that's the whole thing. The whole game, the wildest thing about it is that it has that weird kind of camera slash animation quality to it that makes it look like the fake game that they would be playing in the background of like breaking bad or something. Yeah, or like, or, um, yeah, yeah, no, or like, uh, what the fuck was it called? Like grandma's boy. Yeah, you know, but they actually they went through and pre-rendered fake gameplay that looks like bad gameplay.

Oh, this looks terrible. Like, it's like, it's like, I've never seen anything like it. Like, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm just all the controversies where you're like, no, man, that's a bullshot, you know, the kill zone, three shit, all that stuff, stuff where you're just like, that's it. That can't possibly be as insanely good as you just make it out to be. And here it's like, no, no, no, no, this actually might convince you because it ain't fucking that great.

Oh, I don't know. It looks fucking terrible. But yeah, God, somebody in the chat nailed it. It looks like the video that would be attached to like a fake mobile game. Oh, an ad for a mobile game. Yeah. Yeah. It would it totally the ad for a mobile game. That's also a lie.

Definitely. But yeah, Duke Nukem begins was supposed to be pitched for 2008. Obviously, it was not going to happen due to the game due to Duke Nukem forever, still in development, which then came out three years later. But they they put everything they the quote was they put everything they had into the the cinematic and it was canceled due to legal issues.

But 13 years later, they're still proud of it and they wanted to put it out. They should not be. Yeah, that's a franchise that can kindly and safely go away. And definitely. I don't think Duke would be well received today. I think Duke can die. And that that'd be fine. Maybe.

Unless they brought it back and it was his son, Tim, Nukem. Tim, this world is more suited for Tim. So there was that. And speaking like dated shit and and speaking like dated shit and and horrible characters and treating women like shit. Uh-huh. The French Union, suing Quantic, Quantic Dream has come out with news that Quantic Dream

has sent death threats to whistleblowers through anonymous accounts, use of bots, harassing personal phone numbers and installing wild collages in their parking lot. Could we possibly see David Cage in handcuffs over this shit? I think this is like a fantasy dream. I think a Quantic Dream. I think we're actually heading in that direction. When you think about the shit they said in court, when you think about

bursting into tears and the lack of control in the most. If there's ever a place that you need to stay in control, it would be in court, right? Yeah. So if you're unable to say that's accurate, if you're unable to. Maintain control in court. Then why would you maintain control outside of court? After finding out who the whistleblowers are?

Yeah, just throw a multi-week long criminal tantrum. Nothing will happen. I'm sure it'll be fine. So, yeah, this report coming in from solidaryinformatic.org basically is describing that like ever since 2018. Yeah, the whistleblowers have gotten death threats at home, just endless hounding on text messages, social media, by phone, hacking attempts to their personal email account.

It says wild collages, but it doesn't specify what a wild collage is. So I assume it's a bunch of horrible pictures in their parking space. Well, that's the thing is you can only imagine a collage being a gathering of words and pictures and images together to hurt the person. These people are game developers. Do they really think it's as simple as going and making a new account somewhere and then harassing somebody? Like, do they really think that like this will not eventually come back on them?

Like, and then people are all going to get caught. They're going to get caught. Well, the like of all the shit that they're doing, like, yes, they do. But again, it's like no impulse control, right? Like one, the same brain that made the decisions that led them to this place to begin with is the one that's now dealing with the consequences. You're right. You're completely right. Why would they think they would get away with it is is a stupid question

to ask because we're talking about people that did all sorts of shit that they also begin with about them getting away with it. Because like 100 percent, like I have to. I have like me and Punch Mom have this conversation often where there's just a baffling moment of like, how did you think this was the appropriate response to some insane shit you did? And it's always just like because it's the same brain that got into the trouble to begin with. Yeah, it's it's like when people ask you, it's like, you know,

you're watching bank robbers have been cornered by the police and they're having a shootout with the police instead of just turning themselves in. And somebody asked you, you know, if you were in that situation, wouldn't you turn yourselves in? You're already caught. I'm like, yeah, but I'm not the kind of idiot that would rob a bank to begin with. You know, so you just it's what that that you have to just take that step and go like, no, no, no, no, no. You're inserting yourself into the wrong step of the process.

You know, you have to back it up to step zero and insert yourself there and realize, oh, everything after this is a fucking clusterfuck. Is this is yeah. And then they were also using bots to uncover the anonymity of the whistleblower. Oh, my God, they're so going to get caught. So it's like fucking hostile and insane. But that's that's what's going on.

Well, a chronic dream is essentially. Are they? I mean, it's it's they're here. Done. Right. They're here in Montreal now. They're there. They, you know, they moved in. What a great time to expand. They moved in. Can go say hello. Oh, yeah.

Because, you know, like, you're about to say they're done. But are they done? You know. Anyway. Now would be the time, hopefully, for a lot of talented people to perhaps make an exodus. That seems like a good idea. When somebody tries to call out some shit that's happening

and then the response is for the company to put wild collages in the parking lot. You probably don't want to work there. It's probably time to go. I need I need I need it. I need to see I need an elaboration on a wild collage. I kind of I kind of I'm obsessed with the phrasing of that a little bit. You know.

You don't know what it could mean. Are you getting like, are we talking baby pictures and and spray painted messages? Don't I don't know. Like what are you? It was this weird thing. We're in the original quantum dream thing at court. There was all these things about photo collages there, too. I'm like, what's up with the what's up with the French and the photo collages?

Like, why do they why do they got to harass people via scrapbook? You know. Like somebody who's walking around trying to live their normal life and encountering these horrible messages and fucked up intrusions on their privacy constantly. Kind of sounds like the scenario that would occur to a character in a David Cage game. It does sound like that. And it sounds like your job would be to protect the victim and do as best you can to uncover who's doing this to them from the shadows and why.

Yeah, that'd be too crazy, though. Let's talk about ghosts. Ghosts. What kind of ghosts? Alternate dimension Mexico ghosts. Not Native American ghosts. Or which ghosts like a wasn't like a big monster. Was that a ghost or is that like a demon?

Oh, hold on. You're doing the the beyond. I'm doing the the Fahrenheit's. Oh my God. I didn't even I didn't even. I didn't even realize we were talking about two different games. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ.

They all do. Holy shit. So beyond stands apart, but the rest absolutely blurred together to me. Oh man. Heavy rain, Fahrenheit and beyond all blur together for me. They're like, I remember that as a sequence of stupid, like when I think of the protagonist of Indigo prophecy, I just see the heavy rain dad. Like I can't my brain won't put the face of the Indigo prophecy guy in because

it's just it's all one fucking it's yeah. Anyway, the robots get to be their own separate thing, but but just everything else just. Yeah. All right. Just a heads up cool game alert. Cool game alert. I wish I got more of those.

Check out dodgeball academia. Really? Yeah. Take a look here. I'll post it. Take a look on Twitter. Oh, okay. Hold on.

Yeah. There we go. Funky art style. Awesome visuals. Cool. Clean. That does look cool. You know, clear style to it and you fucking you kind of play something that

looks like it would be on adult swim or Cartoon Network at this point. A little bit of that OK KO kind of vibe. But yeah, you're playing dodgeball with an RPG story mode. That's cool. Looks dope. At one point there's a training mission. We're in the footage where he's like breaking a car with dodgeballs and also like the last like 10 seconds is him charging up a Kamehame Hadoken.

So yeah, dodgeball academia. Check it out. Hey, I have a question for you, Willie. Dodgeball is really great. It's very fun. Super dodgeball is cool. And Willie, I have a question. Why is it that Captain Commando was able to dodge the ugly Capcom character using blue

and yellow curse? But he does use blue and yellow. He just has a lot of white, too. Yeah. Is that is that the trick? Because I've been complaining about Luke on Twitter and people are unanimous in that no, he can't be the worst design. There's Abel and Rufus and I'm like, oh man, they're all blondes with bright yellow

part of their design and the same blue. And then I realized it's the colors in the Capcom logo. Yeah, that's that's also why I think that's what the protagonist energy is about is because he's wearing Capcom color logos, Capcom logo colors. Like that's the first thing I noticed was like, oh, he's in the exact same hue, blue and yellow. So yeah, Captain Commando is no, he's got the big white vest, but he's still blond and he still has the yellow star and on the chest as well.

So do you think that's why Abel was those colors? Because no, because those were also on the original Abel little girl version. I think it's just the design they had that I think they just they went with that. And I think they were I think they were also going for distinct colors for the entire new roster. So Viper is red, Abel's blue, Rufus is yellow and well, Forte is not green, but like they they just picked different primary colors. Forte is green.

Yeah, there it is. That's color theory right there. Green Forte. They picked they picked distinct single they picked distinct colors for the characters as a their primary things to stand out from each other. And yeah, when we're discussing last time, I was like, I feel like there were probably 50 50 with the carrot with the new cast, you know, but anyway. That's pretty much it.

There's one other story here. It's it's currently let me see if I can get the update on it. But it sounds like there's going to be a new chapter of Berserk. Whoa. Hey, stop with that. Please. Thank you. Me.

Nope. Stop me. Me. I was doing a dumb ad started playing some sounds. Oh, no, don't do that. A new chapter of Berserk is going to be coming out. Most humously, it'll be more or less focusing on tribute to Mira and his works. And apparently there are some pages that are like literally the last things he worked

on in there. So it seems like what they're saying is that like, yeah, there are some. Well, I say the article makes reference to there being chapters that were banked prior to him passing away, but I couldn't find a source on that. But there definitely is work that Mira has that's unpublished that they'll be able to include in that. And that seems like it'll be the final chapter for now worked on by his assistants. They also said that there there is talks about his assistants possibly continuing it, but

it's not confirmed. It's just a discussion and there's no, no confirmation that they think that that's going to be a good idea or that's going to happen. But at the very least it was a point that was mentioned here. The source of that is a second article here. Where was it? I personally feel that like the continuing of someone's work is only OK if it has their blessing.

I think that's pretty apparent. Like when Robert Jordan passed away, his wife described that I think Brandon Sanderson would be a very cool pick and she would have known. If that's a thing that is known and discussed prior and they left them notes and this whole thing was kind of understood leading up to it, then you accept the passing of the torch with the blessing. I will say that if they're going to posthumously continue Berserk, there needs to be somebody trustworthy with a hammer and a match and a garbage can that gets to read every chapter

before it goes out and has the veto power to be like, yeah, this is garbage. Burn it. Hopefully, family, closest friends, people, whoever can be just close by to just look at it and be like, we're good. We'll cap it off here. Thanks everybody. That's a wrap. And if it happens in a way where, because yeah, it really depends on the type of project,

if someone is directing a movie and then they suddenly pass away, it's almost guaranteed that it's going to end up being picked up by someone else that comes along, whereas a manga is such a personal story over the course of decades that it just doesn't carry that same interchangeability in any way, shape or form. So anything like that or like a novel series like George R. R. Martin, yeah, I would say you want to have the express permission and torch pass, you know, or even just like a discussion at some point that happens if it's like a sudden thing because it's just way too personal, you know?

Anyway, let's take some letters. Hey, if you want to send in a letter, you can send that in to CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com. That's CastleSuperBeastMail at gmail.com. All right. We got one coming in from Tom Deere Butler Cape Assets in episode 128. You guys briefly mentioned what you, a straw man, a person who thinks fuck all sprites. Unfortunately, this man is real.

One of my core workers who we'll call GT because of the Gran Turismo tattoo on his neck holds the same opinion. Occasionally, when talking with GT about games, he'd ask what I played normally and I'd show him the list of games I'd play, Enter the Gungeon or Binding of Isaac, and he said they didn't look that great from a visual sense. I said they're not too bad as far as sprites go, but he laughed it off. I figured he was probably just the genre he didn't like. I knew he was into racing games, so I asked him if he heard of Art of Rally, to which

he said no. I pulled up my phone to show him, and he's like, is this going to be some other indie pixel game? I said no, this one's pretty cool, and after seeing it for less than 30 seconds, and side note, Art of Rally is an artsy racing game. He said, nah, it just doesn't look that great and dismissed it because it really wasn't pushing graphics too well. If you go look at the game, it's actually quite pretty.

Art of Rally looks very nice. It's gorgeous. I'm writing to you mainly because, yeah, anyway, all of that and such. This is a real person, crazy, crazy person. I think that's not that, like, from the moment Tommy Tallarico said, fuck you CVS2, get out of here with your old and busted sprites, it was cemented that it's like, no, no, no, this person is real. Well, Tommy Tallarico would also give good scores to games that he worked on.

There's that. But yeah, there's a bunch of, there's definitely a bunch of people who are not exactly the type that would likely be listening to this podcast. But I know and have, I have family and friends that are people who, I guess the only way to look at it is like, they see the goal of video games as something to simulate hobbies to the most realistic way possible and to simulate war to the most realistic way possible. And that's the, that's the entire goal. There aren't like, I'm not, hey, I'm not an artist and I'm not a particularly artful

or art minded or appreciating person. Right. I just like movies and TV shows and occasionally a video game. But there are people out there that legitimately have no sense of aesthetics at all. Like you could show them a pretty picture and they wouldn't even be able to tell if they liked it. They would just go if it's real or not or there's a lot of detail. The fact that this gentleman has a Gran Turismo neck tattoo answered this question way before it began because Gran Turismo's obsession is with hyper realism to the, like to an extent that

I think nothing else has ever obsessed over. Gran Turismo is obsessed with like every single detail of a car possible. Yeah. Like the, and somebody who loves it that much. Yeah. Would look at everything else with why doesn't it look exactly real? This person probably rolls their eyes at things that don't take place in the real world. No, that's it.

Like, no, emulation of reality is the only, it's the, that's the whole point and anything that is not that is just a waste of time. You know, um, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's a person that exists. Uh, let's take one over here from. Uh, Otho Zen. Howdy, purple beast and red beast. Otho Zen here. Uh, wanted to get your read on aboriginal characters and games.

I hail from the, uh, let me give it my best shot. Sekwepemk, Sekwepemk nation. Give us your best shot in Camelot species. Uh, the site of the recent tragic discovery of the so far. 215 unmarked child graves at the site of the former residential school. Yep. If I look out the window, the Canadian flag is still at half mass where it will remain for, yep.

Uh, this horrible discovery led me to think about how, uh, aboriginal people are represented in media. Um, while TV and movies in this regard are hit and miss and games are run into stereotypes the most. It might be confirmation bias, but I play games, uh, more than watch TV. Uh, however, when I see characters like T-hawk thunder and night wolf, it always rings hollow for me because it feels like there's no character beyond being aboriginal. Uh, woolly, it's okay.

Thunder is still cool. Uh, much love and sorry for the long email, possibly it's such a matter, but keep doing your thing. I, I, I dig, I get that and I, I totally, uh, get exactly where you're coming from there because like the best examples I can think of were when they went with, um, so there's Connor from assassin's creed three where they put a lot of attention to detail into making sure he was accurately, uh, portrayed and then, uh, eagle, you know, thunder's brother and K.I.

They went again and, and like they worked with a class of kids like actually from, uh, the same area he's from and tried to keep it as accurate as possible. And, um, you know, you kind of ended up with like these accurate representations, but at the same time, their most defining trait was simply where they were from, you know? Yeah. It's, it's, I mean, every piece of media has an issue with this. It's like, you know, and it's often like a disappointingly overtly racist like, Hey, what's this character's, uh, backstory?

He's the Chinese guy on the cast. Correct. Like, oh, okay. What's, uh, what's this guy's deal in the plot? He's the black character. Yeah. No, where you are from is the entirety of the angle and there's nothing else to it. Really?

Like, okay. Yeah. Um, so, you know, like it, it's like it, and it's when it comes to like these characters like showing up more often, like it is the right move to go and get people that actually know what the fuck they're talking about that are from these cultures to like contribute and help make sure that what you're doing looks and makes sense and is legit. Um, but even better is having that not be the only dynamic that that character is and that whatever else effect they have on the plot, world or story, whatever else they're

doing also shapes who they are beyond just like you come from here. So you pronounce the things correctly, you know? It's always this way because we're talking about fighters, right? Fighting games are the worst at it because fighting games always want to have a wide variety of characters from various places in the world. And by that metric, they're usually going to embody parts about their culture and they're always going to end up being like kind of goofy, goofy stereotypes in one way or another. Right?

You're going to have the brash American. You're going to have the, the giant Russian. And as we all know, Brazilians are green and control electricity, clearly, clearly. Uh, oh man, the Street Fighter 2 roster is so nuts because a bunch of them are like, yeah, I see that. They get to Brazil and it's like it's a freak monster with electrical powers. And yet still I'll take it over what it was supposed to be. Oh, I mean, yeah, obviously.

Okay. Like I hear you and that's all fine and dandy. But all I think of is what it was supposed to be. Okay. This replacement roster is fine. And for more on that, you can go see fucking fighter pedia episode one. Did original Blanca have the electricity powers? I think that's a really important question.

We never had confirmation. He has if so, that's just confusing. He had a chain and a rolling attack. The rest we'll fucking figure out later. You know, um, yeah, wait, no. It is a thing in Street Fighter that Brazilians have electricity powers. Laura also has rolling and electricity. Yeah.

Why? Oh, dude, did you forget the electric Brazilians like gags for when five launched? I totally forgot. Yeah. Electric Brazilians. That's a thing. What? Why?

Is that is that even a thing? It is now. Brazil and can electrocute people with with powers. Let us know. Sean got the wrong had to burst. He should have got the dungeon. Oh, God. Laura makes Sean even way bigger of a loser than he was before.

Like it's crazy how much of a fucking loser Sean is. He's not even electric. Um, but you know what, but I do have to say, and I think I speak on behalf of a lot of people out here who are like, yeah, Sean's a loser. It's quite clear he's a loser, but he's a young black kid that plays basketball in Street Fighter and you just you hoped for better for him. You wanted more, you know, you wanted more good and second impact. Yeah.

It's the best show are you? So you wanted more from that? It hurts to be like, oh, yeah, that fucking Dan like loser Sean and you're like, oh, but he's the fucking kid that plays ball, man, dude, he wishes he was a Dan like loser. Dan can throw a fireball without needing a fucking bar of meter. It wouldn't be as bad if we got King Cobra, but we never did. Yeah, you're getting him now. His name's Luke.

Have you been paying attention? Oh, Luke's black. No, he's King Cobra from Mortal Kombat knock off Ken to knock off Ken. You completely lost me. But okay, King Cobra becomes Cobra becomes Luke. No, King Cobra became Rufus. And how come Cobra is also Cobra in MK and that was supposed to be a street fighter character? Do not remember Cobra from more combat.

He's the guy who looks like Ken. Oh my God. No. I did not until looking at this very thing. Yeah. Okay. No, it was theorized that he was going to be Ken as a crossover character. Okay.

Okay. No, I had no idea Cobra. I had to look that up. I had I completely lie. I completely had no idea what you were talking about. So there you go. Enjoy Luke. I will.

No, stop. Stop. I will. No, stop. Stop. Regardless. Anyway, uh, Kimo Forrest. Stop having fun.

I will have so much fun with the rapid punches. And he's a hot blooded. I got I got love for my hot bloods. Did they show off other costumes for Luke? Not yet. I don't think they did. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe there's one that just takes the sting off it. I think they didn't. I think if they did, it would give away the backstory game. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Anyway, y'all can't stop me from liking Luke. It's too late. I can try really hard and give it your best.

Uh, Kimo Forrest says dear pot, uh, dear top pat and woolly daddy, help. There are people on my Twitter feed saying that gun sounds and Halo Infinite are bad because they're not like the ones in modern warfare 2019. Personally. What the fuck? What does that have to do with shit? I think instead of going for loud, realistic gun sounds, gun SFX should be telegraphed to its role in the game.

Like how pistols go pew pew, assault rifles go pew pew, but really fast and shotguns go kablamo, but the differences with each gun of the same type better emphasize what they're about. I'll take giving weapons depth, uh, like the right crunch pop and sizzle any day over just being loud and generic with not much distinction per weapon. I also think gun sound design should be tweaked in context of the game. In RE two, where every gun is so loud, it drowns out Mr X's footsteps as well as his music.

I would think that modern warfare 2019 has gun design like this because the only sounds you ever really hear in multiplayer are the guns and the maps are so large now that they need to be loud, but have them far less distinct so as to not give away the type of gun each player uses easily, which isn't what Halo is going for at all in my opinion. What do you think? No, it's really not. Like in call of duty, all you need to know about gun noise is that there's a gun noise happening.

In Halo, you tend to want to know what gun noise is creating what by what gun, but like more than that, like you're the people on your timeline are completely insane, but this actually reminds me of the Halo infinite thing, uh, beta or whatever came out. And did you see that YouTube, uh, video of a guy shooting a bunch of fucking melons? Yes. Oh, they don't react. Yeah. Oh geez.

The melon. It's like it, the guy got ratioed into oblivion by like, I saw, I responded to it. I saw Dave over new blood and all these developers and it's like, this is why people get crunched. People get crunched into the earth because some fucking manager sees that and goes, Oh man, our game looks bad because ratchet didn't move the leaf when he touched it on our game. Instead of focusing on shit that would actually matter. Yeah, I so infuriating. So the thing is, is I know that I'm like, you know, the wrong person speaking out of

turn in a way because I don't care about the realism. I think things should sound as interesting or as cool from just a creative standpoint more than anything else. And fictional sounding weapons to me are, are, I enjoy fun, weird noises that are distinct. I love those crazy sound bombs in Star Wars in episode two. I think like the coolest part of the entire movie is practically like the fuck. Oh, you're super right. The sound is actually really cool.

Yeah. They're the best part of the movie in my opinion, like I fucking love them, you know, so I'm all about flexing that sound design in creative ways and create and coming up with sounds that just, you know, are this is literally the same conversation we just had with Gran Turismo, man. Yeah, it is. It is. But here's the thing.

I just realized it's the same fucking thing. It is, right? Create the creative angle versus the simulation. I watched a video because when I was looking into Half-Life 2 and checking out like the new version of it versus the the original, there was like a whole thing about like check out these and the improvement to the guns. And I was watching the difference between whatever the new version was called, I forget, but like the sound of each gun was improved to sound more realistic and it was cool.

It was cool to like, oh, yeah, like that sniper rifle, like you hear the echo, like you hear the the the the the reverb last way longer and it's more powerful and it's a cracking shot, you know? Or like the sound of the Kramer going off as well is very, you know, like, I get it. And like, I understand when you're someone who is also very familiar with what the firearms sound like in real life, it lends an ear, an air of authenticity that you otherwise wouldn't get. On the other hand, if you played 10 sound effects of the Half-Life 2 pistol to me like

10 different random gun sounds and the Half-Life 2 pistol sound was in there, I would easily be able to pick up the Half-Life 2 pistol sound because it's unique. It doesn't sound like a real gun. It sounds like the Half-Life 2 pistol. I think the most I think a reasonable thing is just like if the game is using a realistic gun that is modeled after a real thing, then go for that. But if you're using halo weapons, then you have no obligations to reality. Have fun.

You know what? The needler doesn't sound enough like a D.A.K. You know, like what the fuck are you going to complain about, you know? What realistic gun is the energy source supposed to map to? Because the fucking L-star doesn't sound like the way it should in my head. It's like, no, if you're using alien guns, shut up. Who cares? Hey, speaking of alien guns, woolly, stop there for a second.

Can you conjure in your mind the sound of the pulse rifle firing from aliens? I cannot. Okay. Well, if you had seen it, you probably haven't seen the movie in like 15 years. That is a completely unique gun sound that will never be confused with anything else. And as a result, when I watch aliens, it's one of those details that when they shoot it, I go, ah, yeah. And when there's an alien's game and they shoot the gun in there, it sounds like that.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's another example. There's a lot of revving mechanics in games. Did you pick out the exceed ping out of a series of 100 similar things? Free every time. Line them up. Right?

Yeah. And does that sound like a regular motorcycle noise? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When this, when the sound bombs came back in, I think it was like Mandalorian, it was like immediately I'm like, fucking there they are that those things don't forget those

things. You know? Yeah. These these when it's a really good sound effect that absolutely stays with you. Halo guns don't sound like that is the everyone on your timeline is insane, sir. So even just the the the sound of a colored up shot, full charge shot of, you know, when Nero lets it let it go like, like, there's a, you know, it's even that it's like, oh, yeah, they played with it.

It's not a real gun, but it's fucking it's cool. You remember it. You know, my you know, my favorite little piece of video game Foley work is ever and it's Halo. So it's appropriate. That's why I thought of it. You know, the grunts, you fought a bunch of them and they have all their weird grunts. Yeah.

Do you know what the the grunt noises that like aren't to vote? You know, there's there's words that they say, but then there's also like the do you know what that shit is? It's the sound effect artists dog. It's a pug. Yes. It's just it told me that into the mic and then it's just pitched up and down and around. He told me that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I did hear that. It's just a disgusting pig dog like my disgusting pig dog just pitched up or pitched down to

fuck with it. Yeah. That's a good. Yo, the sound of striders swing of his blade, you know, like, yeah, what is that? It's just you need. Oh, I just I just thought of another one. You know, stone moving like stone blocks moving being pushed against the grinding noise. You know what that usually is?

It's a can being pitched down a couple of octaves, huh? There's a stock one that gets used all the time. Interesting. Yeah. Anyway, there you go. Fun, fun stuff. It's very cool. It's very cool.

Isn't it a lot cooler than we went and took the Garand out to the field and we shot the Garand and Mike Guy had a microphone next to the Garand and then you heard the ping and the ping went off and then we put the ping in the game. I mean, if you want to you want, you want to talk about like, what are some of the major benefits that Jojo as an anime has over the manga? It's the ability to include the sound effects of the stands going off. Oh, yeah. The distinct noises.

I didn't think that would matter at all until I'm like, oh, OK, no, that actually makes all the difference in the fucking world until you hear the world go off. You're like, yeah, that that is why we're here, you know, indeed. All right. That'll do it. Not quite. Look, I'm trying to get out of here without zombies calling me the N word. Is that possible?

Not until we talk about disco. You're right. So I hope they're far away. I hope they're out of earshot for at least 10 more minutes. Well, there's a couple other words that disco will call me instead that OK, so the spoiler cast for disco Elysium starts in a few seconds. So if you don't want to hear anything spoilery about disco Elysium, I would highly suggest that you leave in the time or turn this off in the time period that I am saying the sentence

before you do. If you're listening to this on Monday live, you can go check out peach saliva at eight o'clock. She's streaming Dark Souls. But regardless of that, spoilers will be happening for disco Elysium as of right now. So do you like the part of the game with the thing happen? Yeah. Um, I mean, well, OK, first of all, like the deserter and the and I love it and his

just everything about him and his view of the title screen and his entire character just saying it's sitting there and you're like, you're going through this fucking like bullshit puppy dog version of communism throughout the game. And this old fuck is the realest deal. Yeah, he's tired. He has nothing to live for. He's the realest deal. And he he's been and like the first impression you get is like, oh, he's

that Japanese soldier that didn't know the war ended, that kept fighting, right? But then it's like, no, he knew because he was following the development of the world. And through his scope, he was watching things happen and he was leaving the island and going around and he was watching the world change and he hated it. Yeah, he's taking his little revenge on the world. Yeah, you know, and it's like and it's interesting because you're seeing this character like, OK, and like immediately just the energy of people that are like, yo, the deserter did nothing wrong, always right, truest right.

Oh, come on. And you're like not like immediately he starts being a contradiction. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting. He's contradicting himself in the same conversation. You know, what is up with this guy? And like, you just kind of have like a point on the he's a point on the political compass on the chart that like all the way at the end shoots so far past the union and ever art and everybody that it like it fucking

it restabilizes this entire balance. Yeah, you know. The thing my favorite part about the deserter isn't even him. I think he's a cool surprise. My favorite part of the deserter is what he he represents in the games narrative structure, which is that you have been following every potential and legitimate lead possible until you hit what I thought was going to be the end of the game, only to deal with a scenario in which we have

fucking no leads at all. We have nothing connecting anything we have done to anything. Yeah, let's just go. Let's just go find the shooting points. Oh, it's the guy and it's a guy who had nothing to do with any. You couldn't have possibly had a whole game. Yeah, was a bunch of filler. The who done it could not have been guests because you literally didn't have the information.

You never met him. How could you have met him? Yeah, you didn't, you know, and then like in the midst of that, you just have what I called a turn for the Wes Anderson. Right. Yeah. A Wes Anderson moment where you're Wes Anderson moment where you're just like and now nothing, something that has nothing to do with anything, but is the most important thing ever is going to captivate us. And we're going to just completely just drown in this, you know, for a while.

The the phasmid is such a fucking cool thing to do. So, of course, I talked about this a little bit more in depth at the time and, you know, I'm not going to harp too long, but it's the nature of the game. It's the nature of this this life, this streaming thing, whatever. You got spoiled. I got spoiled. And I know that that can happen. So, you know, I'm not even like, you know, I'm not even going to fucking harp on that.

But just some people can't keep it in their pants. It is what it is. So I have a quick question about that. Because there's two parts to the phasmid. The first one is the phasmids real. Two is you talk to it. Yes. I'm going to assume that second part you were you were not aware of. I was not aware of the second part, because luckily, thank God, you get to how there it is.

And then it starts to talk to you. Basically, all it was was around the time where the console where the phasmid where we first meet Gary and and the traps and and the cryptozoologist shit starts happening. You meet your lucky racists. You meet your lucky racists. And right around then, it was just, you know, someone making a reference to like, oh, yeah, sure. Like it sure isn't real or or like hope he doesn't miss

pays attention at the end or hope he doesn't miss the end or whatever with like a dumb cap of face and shit. It's just one of those dumb things where someone thought they were being smug and they were like, you know, you're like, OK, well, cool thing, you know. But at the time, I just I protected Reggie from it, you know. So he came in not knowing. And then in the time when he was like, wait, what? And I'm just and I'm like, yeah, I'm the I'm the soldier

getting stabbed in the back and shot in the back while you're sleeping on the bed. You know, don't worry about it. Yeah. Now, with that all out of the way, it still is fucking incredible. And the timing of when they did it, the how, you know, like the gravity of it, everything about that I did not know. And it was it was wonderful. It was such a clear way. Yeah, it was such a cool way to like take this just train wreck and just put it in.

Yeah, I don't. It's just like the whole game is this crazy thing where we talked about it before, but like you are the fucking belligerent insane asshole by any stretch of the imagination in any other story told. But this world, this planet is so fucked that you're actually right. And the things you say and do actually make sense because the world bends to make them make sense after the fact. You know, it's it's so fascinating to see that kind of character

be self-destructive. But like at every turn, there's a reason behind it. There's a method to all of the madness, you know. Um, I think like that whole ending sequence is like perfect because you have the explanation of the deserter and it's like a fountain of hypocrisy. And it's also like like hilariously mundane. Like there's no big mystery to him.

He's just a bad person. From hit inside like sandwich right next to like magic, like completely absurd shenanigans. But before that, to set it up is you get to finish your personal story with your nap. Yes, and you get you get to talk to Dolores. So so just last thing on the one, the deserter there is the like as the things as it's going and it's like, you know, you're setting up the framing of this character.

Who's the contradiction and such? And you're like, you're hearing him talk about the way things ought to be. And then it's like, OK, but motherfucker, you're still drilling holes in walls. You know what I mean? And like still peeping on women, you know. And then I'll what's up with all that. And then it's like, oh, well, it could have been under the influence of the phasmid. Maybe it's like, yeah, you could.

There's it's enough gray in that area to go like, oh, he's just, you know, behaving in ways that are that are under the influence or whatever the case is, but it doesn't change the fact that it's like, yeah, that that's it. The more you go into it, it's the more fucked it is. And like the parts where like he makes reference to like he he he makes reference to degeneracy, right? And you're like, oh, oh, the like the the tanky style communist is talking about something that you would expect from the nationalist.

Right. Yeah. Well, what's that about? Like he's consistent. And then it's you see these contradictions, you know, and it's like, yeah, well, if you can take something degenerate and call it bourgeois, then that's a reason enough to write it off. Well, he's all he's also like a de facto hypocrite, considering he's so hardcore into the violent communism because he's a pussy and he deserted. And then he survived bad about it, but he only survived because of it.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then, of course, it's just like and then you were just looking and you're like, yeah, I took the shot, you know, because fuck him. And you know that the guy who was on the receiving end of that fucking deserved it. But oh, yeah, he's an asshole. You know, and you go down the yeah, you know, we talked about it, loincloth, etc. But yeah, the dream. What fucking works there super well is because you obviously understand

like you're not you're not stupid. You understand within minutes that you have a horrible ex-wife divorce story in your past and you don't want to it's it's defining. It's it's you don't know the specifics. Yeah, it's horrible. So the whole time you're waiting hours to get there, you're going through every version of it in your head already, you know. So my my feeling was that it was basically one of like, OK, look, man,

I've been wondering about how bad this breakup was for like fucking whatever, 40, 50 hours, whatever it is at this point, like, could it possibly like build up to or be as you know, bad and as crazy as I have considered it might be. And then you're going through the conversation and you're like, oh, this is all. First of all, you're never going to fully know because Harry refuses to see it from anything except his point of view, which is that of the victim. You have no idea what he did and how fucking awful he was

because you're not you're not entitled to see her side of the story on it. And it's it's this weird thing, like even when you get there, it's it's like people in the chat right now are going off about what she did or what she didn't do. And it's like, I'm not 100 percent sure what to believe exactly in that sequence because parts of it aren't real. But by the point you're on the way out, it's like just in case you you needed something to push it over the edge here.

Here's a little bit of that, Godfather, too, for you, you know? Here's a little bit of that, like, oh, whatever this was, there is no more. Oh, yeah, it's it's it's this interesting thing for me because the whole game I'm like, I want to find out what happened. I'm desperate to find out what happened, which pushes Harry driving towards like remembering the thing he almost killed himself to forget. And then I got there and I'm like, I should have left it alone. What like Harry's original decision was a correct one.

Whatever he is absolutely self-destructive and going to eventually kill himself over this because he can't get over it. And there's there's it can't be gotten over whatever whatever it was. However, it went down the point at which she has an abortion and needs to get as far away from you as possible to that degree. It's like, yeah, you there's nothing else to say. Whatever it was at that point, there's no longer anything else to say. And yeah, whether or not it's she's just like, I hate being poor

or whether or not Harry was like, we don't know what he did. We don't know. It doesn't matter. Yeah, all that matters is that she's gone as much as a person can. And did you get the phone call? Uh, which one? The one you dial random numbers on the phone. Yes, I did. Yeah. So you eventually ended up speaking to her briefly. Yes.

So as pathetic as that phone call is, the most important thing is that you have to dial like 80 numbers to get there, which means she's not just in a different country or a different continent. She's essentially in a different world. She's as far away from where you are as you can possibly get. Calling, calling, calling, still calling. Yeah. Um, like she did not half ass leaving you, man. And I think it's really important to to state how unreliable

Harry is at that point. And at the end, when your phasmid is talking to you through inland empire and volition backs it up and it says it was mostly her. And it's like, OK, we'll just have to take your words for that. Right. But we don't like know the whole story and you can't. Well, I mean, you're describing the volition backs up and so does inland.

And it's like, but is it talking to you? I know, sir. It's like, seriously, my reason. So the only reason why is because I made a decision, which is I trust volition no matter what. Right. I made a decision early on with when I'm after class year where I was like, no matter what happens, I will trust volition. It's the only uncompromised stat. Absolutely.

And that's fine. But that's like a personal, but that's a personal decision room. Totally. The voices in your head are lying to you and that that fucking. Right. Magic Beast is not actually talking to you. Totally. I have no idea. Yeah, no, I had trusting volition was the best. I loved it. It was great.

I had a fantastic play through because I decided to trust volition on that. The moment of being compromised is like such an incredible one that just you have to stare sideways at 24 stats. You know, you know, I'm like, shivers. You're going to fucking rat me shivers is going to sell me out. You know, it was it was incredible. But but that's what it is.

I think like the the phasmid gives you that final little line. And, you know, I see some people reading way too hard into that. When I'm just like, no, you're not meant to know his side. You're not meant to know the objective truth here. All you have is his perspective, him being on the receiving end of someone who's walking away from him. And he's trying to bury the reasons why, you know, right? Yeah. So so what?

Of course, because things are up to interpretation, you can fight over them forever. So, you know, by all means, take your your your interpretations and have your own with it. But like, based on the way it went with this play through, this is how I'm looking at it. That, yeah. Go ahead. I'm a big fan of after all of that, they give you like games don't do this.

God of War did it. And I remember being blown away when God of War did it. Games don't have a denouement. Games hit your climax and then like three minutes. And then credits in the end of Disco Elysium actually reminds me a lot of full full metal alchemist brotherhood where you get an entire story sequence that is like, so all that shit happened, huh?

The the sacking of the Shire. You know, the kind of yeah. I the God of War, one is a really great example because, yes, that was a release, the denouement, that is fantastic. I it was kind of incredible how petty the conversation with Vilmar feels. Oh, he's such a fucking asshole. Your final, you know, like it's like it's trying to be a final boss.

But you couldn't give less of a fuck, you know, like it couldn't matter less, the entire thing. And on top of that, at least in my in my play through, Kim was there, had my back at Vickamark, excuse me. And you're like, I love you, Kim. And Kim is just like, yo, at the end of the day, he fucking did everything, man, he did everything. The game happened and he solved all these problems.

And he still got to the bottom of it while being a fucking superstar cryptozoologist, you know. Yeah, like it was it was. And then you see everyone else turn on him and kind of get to a point of like, why are you such a dick, dude? Just, you know, it's fine. The the the Feldgeist building guy who came with his son. Yeah, he never lies to you at any point.

He just doesn't introduce like the fact that he knows you. But he already knows Kim. And then you just completely move on, not thinking about it. You know, so that was played great. The the entire Joyce versus Everard thing is like, it's so clear how like they're both there. They're both these horrible representatives that that, you know, I represent that of their belief structures and their systems.

But Joyce is charming and pleasant to talk to. So you just automatically default to being like, I like you and I want to be on your side fucking. So like. You're super right. I fucking love Everard. Oh, wow. I love Everard so much. Wow. OK. Like he might be like my favorite character

because he's the as an effective asshole. I don't I don't even know what to tell you. He's just like he's so blunt about what he actually wants and what he's going to do. I appreciate that more than Joyce's like. Maneuvering, I guess you would call it an obfuscation, whereas like. So she was really bizarre. She maneuvers Joyce will like lie to the side, right?

And imply and and when you call her out on it, she'll be like, hey, yeah, you got me. Right. It's disco, baby. Whereas Everard will just lie to your face so bluntly that you're like you're lying to my face ever. He's like, yeah, I am. I like that you caught on. That's good, Harry. Oh, it's Mr.

The Boy in Love Lying. It's for the union. And and like the contrast of the fact that the contrast to of like right outside is easy Leo, who's going to give you the most earnest conversation in the entire game? You know, yeah. Well, second most. Sure. Sure. Fucking eggheads going to give you the most earnest conversation in the entire game.

The the the entire church side mission is like the most like its own game. You can't. Yeah, fuck off. That's a side mission. You know, it's it's 33 percent of the game and it's incredible. It's it does wonders for establishing the world and everything about, you know, Ravishal I, I, you know, the fact that you go through. Uh, what has to be like probably the single best prompt in the entire game, but the dance.

Oh, yeah. The dance is just unstoppable. It's so good. And then it one ups itself when you get him into it. I hope you did. Oh, I did. Yeah. And then you peak when you're taking the like you're at you're at maximum cop hijinks and absurdity. And the only place to go is straight to my favorite place, which is shivers.

And La Ravishalier introduces herself, you know, and you get the full like, oh, this this this is the best check in the entire game. Like I can't imagine missing this, you know. Um, yeah, yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. And then after that, you get to do fucking weird magic space shit. It's, uh, yeah, it's gonna like I I tried and I'm like, I don't think you can name me a realer one than Kim K. Yeah, Kim's the best.

He's the realest, and there's just nothing else to it. Kim's the absolute best power gap to to to second. There's no better partner. There's no realer motherfucker that has your back, you know, I love Kim. Protect him with everything. What did you write on the wall? Uh. Uh.

Something beautiful has happened. Something the miracle has not yet happened or something like that. Yeah, I can't remember. You're you're asking me a question back from March. Fair enough. Uh, what was hilarious is the idea that you could write the words. Renee lives on that wall as the deserter is fucking watching you, you know, like seeing that whole thing where, yeah, he, you know, you get to you get

to fucking cozy up to this, this, uh, uh, monarchist, you know, representing the old school of the authoritarian, like coming from the, the, the ones who, who are what the crown and the crown is fucking baked in cocaine because that's the world we live in, uh, every single character. Um, I feel like, and I took, I had to stop and explain like a, you know, a couple of times where I'm just like this last 20 minutes standing with a lady on the dock, just spouting out world building is painting a more vivid canvas of, of everything about the history of this world.

Then if you did a flyby of a super realistic 3D city and zoomed in and out on all these different places and whatever, just one conversation with like, you know, the most minimal, um, um, simple graph visuals of just like basic 3D models and unbelievable writing, you know? Yeah, the game's, the game's incredible. It's fantastic. It's going to be talked about for years and years and years. It's the first game to beat Torment's word count.

Hmm. Interesting. I didn't know that. I over a million words. I just, I have to reiterate that I just like this was almost a tragedy because the first time I pledged it and realized how good it was. And then just, there was no dialogue. So it couldn't be played.

It just couldn't, you, you put it on the shelf for a while for later. And, and you just kind of, yeah, but you just look at that and you go, this is fucking tragic because I can't possibly speak these lines. You know, I did the same thing. I did a stream. I'm like, wow, this is an incredible game. It's amazing. It's unbelievable.

Wow. Can't stream it. Okay. Well, I got to stream this other stuff. So I'll put this on the, on the back burner for when I can play it myself. And that ended up just not happening. And then they announced the, the voiced version. I was like, oh, thank goodness.

Thank you so much. Oh, yeah. And then for the voices to come in and be the absolute best, you know. Anyway, so I'm, I'm doing my, my, my new game plus. I'm, I'm going to be a belligerent, ridiculous, physical asshole. Race war go up and let's. Yeah, good. Good.

And let's see if we, let's see if we can't get Kuno on the team. You know. Oh, you heard about that, huh? Yeah. Yeah. You do like when you punch him, he talks differently to you. Oh yeah. And because he doesn't own you anymore.

And then when you're shooting the body down, if you do it that way and Kuno S is like egging you on, she goes, what's the matter, Kuno? Come on, get in there, make fun of them. And Kuno remains silent. You know, and then when he, when he does chime in, he goes, oh yeah, pig, come on, show me, show me something interesting. But he's like absolutely distant and like, he's like, oh, you're my dad. He's not the unhinged psychopath that you knew before.

He's like, oh, you're my dad. And I know exactly what you are. And I'm just going to stand back over here because you didn't. I don't want you to beat me to death. Yeah, he understands it. You know, you're one of them. Unbelievable. No other game has, has the fucking balls to just go that hard and go that real

all the time, you know, and snail the landing. Um, that's it. That's all I got. You really want to go balls out on Unigame plus fucking throw that ledger away. Oh, never find out. What is that? What happens? No, specifically get it and throw it away.

You just never find out who you are. Yeah. Does that not just, don't you just miss out? Not the ledger. Sorry. The note. Oh, you get a replacement perk. Uh, oh, I can pull it up right now.

Oh, if you choose to just don't entertain the ex-wife. Yeah. Thought cabinet. What the fuck happens? That's such a huge part of it. It's got a thought that's called like caustic echo. Oh, OK. Open the hidden compartment, throw the card away and then think about it.

It gives you plus one volition. And it's it's the feeling of throwing away something that you'll never be able to get back. Huh. Interesting. Does there is there any other content to that or? I don't know. There's I mean, everything puts everything into everything. Yeah, because I like, because it's almost like, you know how it's like,

hey, light side or dark side, do you take the quest or kill the quest giver? And it's like, uh, no, take the quest and then betray the quest giver for the most stuff. You know, yeah. So I'm inclined to betray the quest giver giver, then betray the quester, then. Yeah, this discos like reactivity to itself is unbelievable. Yeah, I don't want to make choices that remove content entirely as much as I want to see the alternate results of that content. No, there's very little that removes content entirely.

Like there's the failed checks that are like, get the goddamn shit out of the tree like that. That's a fucking check that it's get content or not. But in terms of like dealing with people or quests, it's it's content one way or the other. Like I failed one of the big communism checks in my quest line and got something. I got something that told me a lot about Harry. Okay. I was arguing about communism and how we need to be down with the bourgeoisie.

And then I failed the big important question for I had. What is the biggest, most important communist question ever? And I failed it and got the best question I could possibly have, where Harry without a doubt asks legitimately, are women the bourgeoisie? And the guy is like confused and tells you that you need to work things out. And you go, Oh, Mike, Harry's communism has shit to do with politics. It's just it's just desperately the feeling to find a way to blame the wife. He just needs to she's got to work in somehow.

Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. I like that's is that the vision quest? It's amazing that that's the communist. Okay, because I did the ultra liberal vision quest. Yeah. And I hear that the moral one and the fashion one are super interesting for Harry's character. Well, the moral one, I know you get to learn about Kim.

Okay. Because Kim's a moralist. Okay. Yeah, I hear that the moralism and the the fashion ones are like fantastic ads to the game. Yeah. So yeah, that that's great. I mean, I imagine also plays into the the dream where one of the options is

like, but I know all this stuff now. I'm a big communist. You were right. We got stuff to talk about. She said, I don't give a fucking fuck that you're a communist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasn't the problem. Dude, I mean, I'm walking around as an ultra liberal and I have net worth. And it's like, look how much money I'm worth now.

I can I can support everyone. I'm so rich just like and you know. Yeah, yeah, become a man of plenty. Okay, favorite stat. Favorite stat of the ones that I played with, I'm going to I'm going to pull up a goddamn list because I'm sure there's one I'm going to forget. Because for me, I go ahead. Go after you then.

Okay. No, after you have one, I've said it. I've said it many, many times, but it's just shivers will never nothing. Nothing makes the payoff feel as good to me as shivers does. And it was the moment the first prompt happens when where the hood at, right? The the the where you just get like the zoom out to take in the entirety of the top of the map, you know, and it just it's like what is happening in all four directions, what is happening above the moral internships are above.

And I'm like this power of feeling what is happening in the city around you. It's like I said, it's the it's the Narsha da moment. Nothing's better than that. And it pays off so much towards the end. So I think shivers is almost cheating because shivers is mandatory. Like is actually mandatory. Is it? Yeah.

Because when I didn't start hearing it until I buffed the stat, the the the check at the mural to find Ruby, yeah, is mandatory. OK, and that like you have to beat the the that shivers prompt. OK, but you will. I mean, there's like a million different ways to lower that. Well, you can roll low and get it get it right. You can pass it. Yeah, but what I mean is that you have to interact with shivers

in a big way to continue, not that you have to level it up. I'm torn. I didn't get to spend a lot of time with Half Light. But every time I did, it scared me. Interesting. Half Light is crazy. It's Kuno. It's it. It is Kuno. It is literally Kuno in your head. I'm torn because I almost want to say Inland Empire purely because

the necktie is an Inland Empire character. I missed the necktie completely. Yeah, you did. I didn't get the necktie. You didn't know. Did you get it on your next playthrough? Not yet. I got the tie, but it hasn't started talking to me yet. When does it? When does it start talking to you? Immediately. Oh.

Then no, I guess not. Should I love that ties like a character? It's a character. A big car. Oh, I know. I found out after the fact. I I was watching a secret. There's a there's a secret mission where you you have to figure out like why the the two children in the village can hear the radio of Kim's car.

And I saw some lines from the necktie there. I know it's a whole character, but I just we just we failed it. We didn't get it. Apparently, you need to have four Inland and put it on like right away. That's what people are saying. I'll try it on my new game plus. Yeah. OK, I'm not going to talk about anything to do with necktie then because I want to spoil it for you.

But that's your favorite. Some I had some cool adventures with that necktie and bottles. Because the Inland answer is like if you're leaning into the fucking Matthew McConaughey energy, right? If you want that, totally what it is. If you want that Matthew McConaughey energy, true detective shit. Yep. That's what it is. You know, then I then that's that's good.

And while I again, I didn't hang out with him a lot and I'm looking forward to hanging out with him on my new game. Somebody in chat nailed it perfectly. Even if you don't listen to him, electrochemistry is batting 100 at all times. Electrochemistry is the stat I missed the most when I was building my character because it didn't make sense for me to build electrochem,

but then avoid all drugs. Oh, you played Shrededge, right? 100 percent. Same trade. Take a drink. I did not a sip of alcohol. Same single drugs. So I kept electrochem at like two. I kept it super low. I didn't care. Yeah. But I miss him because every time he did talk, he'd be a funny guy who wanted to party. Right. Right. Right.

He tried to kill me at one point. Yeah, I think I think like after after shivers, it's definitely there's there's some great shit with EDC, Esprit de Carre because it's blue shivers. I was shocked at how much I liked blue shivers. Blue shivers, dude. Like, hey, because I hadn't taken into account how much that it would have me identify with Kim.

Yeah. Yeah. What is he feeling on the scene? What is his mind thinking? And sometimes what's happening somewhere else across in Jamrock? You know, what cases are being solved? That reminds me. And I think we can I don't know how much you have left to say about it, but this is the only thing that I want to say, which is the stats

and the voices and the build up all crescendo into my favorite like pronouncement in any game that I can think of, which is detective arriving on the scene. Hmm, like just. Like that feeling of like Harry's finally doing it. He's finally got it. Like he's back almost.

Yeah. Yeah. Also, the way in on the island, like playing that fucking music, dude, and you're getting the reward being the light motif or it's like, oh, you know, this song, it's just the full version now. So it also like, hey, how'd you know we were coming? You guys were going down on a boat with some fucking jackass music. What do you mean? How'd I know you were coming? Just blasting it over the fucking sad FM. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. No. Kim Kim is like you said you like Sun Sun, so he's the he's the ultimate the ultimate Sun Sundari energy, you know. Oh, I love Kim. Yeah. All right. All right. That's it for us today. Everybody have a good one. Take care.