Castle Super Beast - CSB 131: Only White Can Unlock Easy Mode For Black (Pokemon)

Episode Date: August 17, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Egyptian music Good morning, it's me the castle super piece logo. Yes Hey, no, it's actually me Pat joined by my co-host woolly who just magically teleported me onto the screen. Hello, you have teleported What's up with that? It's a pretty logo Yeah, I like it. I could stare at that Yeah So what's up, man? What's up with you?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Not much had a pretty Had a pretty different week overall Oh, yeah, you know doing some wedding stuff and everything Mm-hmm. Oh that's coming together, but Not too bad overall I I Don't know about you Actually, I do know about you and I do know that this is no things. I know I know this is more or less a
Starting point is 00:01:42 Fruitless Conversation but I watched a basket ball Yeah, you watch some basketball. I Watched the last dance specifically That's the the Netflix Michael Jordan series covering His his reign in the earth. That's not quite a basketball. Yeah, it's more of us. Yeah, it's that's the story of
Starting point is 00:02:12 the Michael Jordan repeat-three-peat and All the stuff did Michael Jordan go from young man to Asshole asking fellow basketball players a hundred dollars for an autograph in a fancy restaurant What was the path there the thing that makes you the best player in the world is what also makes you an insane like Competition addict that accepts nothing less than perfection. Yeah, that just kind of answers that nice and neat, doesn't it? You it's the only way
Starting point is 00:02:50 You don't become the best in the world at anything without sacrificing a major part of your humanity Does that mean that like Talladega nights is like a metaphor about Michael Jordan because if you're not first you're last I mean No, but I also like You have to find an analogy where The the comparable best is like not just the best but so much the best that they're Redefining it on a global level and they're making it a cultural phenomenon. I
Starting point is 00:03:33 Actually do have an analogy that fits this podcast perfectly Because I stole it for mr. B tongue a youtuber who uploads once every never Because he made the reverse analogy and it's World of Warcraft ironically enough, okay Because World of Warcraft is the Michael Jordan of video games, okay Why aren't this why isn't this game more like World of Warcraft this game failed because it's not like World of Warcraft oh By everyone else. What can they learn by everyone else's comparison points. You mean? Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay. I see like you remember the cult of Jordan. Yeah, do you remember that fucking era in which like I was both breeze in it
Starting point is 00:04:16 Every up-and-coming basketball player was like yeah, but are they the next Jordan? Yeah, they're not enough like Jordan That's why they're not as great as Jordan But so this is this is what I'm talking about where it's like The only way to create that effect where people are owned where your name is synonymous with the game and where countries Where they knew nothing about the sport they learn about the player first Then the team then the sport itself Right like it literally did not exist in a ton of countries Until he brought it or rather he got popular enough that it started arriving there and shit and
Starting point is 00:04:55 like in order to Just shoot that far beyond every other second and third place like Yeah Comparison point you have to have something inside of you that For sakes a part of your humanity like I said you in this case. It's like the drive for competition is Beyond anything else any other human can have and that means that's just looped right back around the world of Warcraft Yeah, I guess but You know, but it just really like it is it's a pretty good series
Starting point is 00:05:31 All things considered like last dance is pretty good. It's a it's a it's a really good watch and I Can attest to that because I was also watching it with like punch mom who knew who knows who didn't know he existed and You know what I mean and that and like while we were in the middle of going through it Well, she was very excited to get to the next episode and see where it all goes and stuff So I've read from people that they appreciate me Annunciating myself if I'm going to do a purely facial reaction So I'd like to annunciate and doubly
Starting point is 00:06:10 Like emphasize That you just said that punch mom didn't know who Michael Jordan was Which caused a lean and a squint That I'm not fully able to get off of my face. Well, he I've met her She is real yes It's not an elaborate smoke and mirror goof are we forgetting Three weeks ago when we talked about Space Jam 2 and And the whole the entire 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:06:50 We spent on the fact that she didn't recognize his face and how weird that was, you know what? I actually do remember that and It's just so unbelievable that somebody doesn't know who Michael Jordan is I was all I was doing was making a call back to that Very recent conversation. Oh my god Well in any case Does last dance go into what happens when you don't pay your gambling debts? Um So it seems yes, it does it does okay
Starting point is 00:07:23 Although it also it also it addresses how much of that is Speculative how much of that is real what the deals is I'm assuming such you know that being said hey kids If you owe money to somebody that you shouldn't owe money to you should pay them. Yeah Yeah, so that was I I know that that was always a like of like rumor stuff that I had heard about and it was It was talked about in papers and stuff But you know, they basically just kind of went like yeah, that was always just like rumor shit But never really confirmed in any way So
Starting point is 00:08:01 But Yeah, the overall as a As a sports anime It's a good watch and it's it's put together in a very like interesting way where the season itself the final season Was called the last dance and so it's following that like year But then cutting back to all the different periods of time like leading up to that and like the different shit that You know other players are going through and you know hard-cutting hard-cutting to where the fuck is Dennis Rodman?
Starting point is 00:08:38 He's on Monday Nitro Like instead of going to practice he's skipping out to hang out with Hollywood Hogan You know, it's just like wild shit like that Obviously late to the party is like a Michael Jordan like puff piece Um, I mean that's the thing is like you watch it and I think it's a very honest telling of like Okay, so this dude is clearly the goat and this dude is clearly a generational marker And that impact is not understated like it's I felt as if It made up for all the things I was trying to explain to punch mom about I'm like, how did you not know about all this?
Starting point is 00:09:25 It very clearly cements how insanely huge that era was Um, but then it absolutely shows you the cost of to your humanity You know, it shows you the parts of him that are like Yeah, uh, I literally invent things I invent slights that people don't do To have a reason to how to take out revenge on them to drive myself to be the best Like I will pretend someone talked trash where they didn't In order to get himself to where he needs to be
Starting point is 00:10:01 To dominate the person the next time around That's the kind of attitude that you see in like serial killers It's crazy and and like he has a very and they come back to it like Multiple times. It's a 10 episode series and he constantly just goes. Okay. You feel that this you feel like you could do that You feel like whatever I disagree fine Let's see what happens and then like it's just this thing where Like it doesn't matter what it is. It doesn't matter what's happening. What's going on I will create reasons to send myself to like
Starting point is 00:10:39 Fucking 11 and to just unleash everything I have on you and then some and that's what it takes to win You know, and that's what it takes to be the best and that's all there is to it and other people who are along for the ride It's like if you're not on that level, which obviously you're not then you're going to get yelled at You're going to get screamed at you're going to get fucking You know punked out and in some cases you might get swung at You know But how is it that Steph Curry was able to sink all those baskets and still appear to be a human? Well, all of the all of the really great basketball greats that were
Starting point is 00:11:16 Before and after We're still really great but the the difference is That if he wasn't this if he didn't have this like insane characteristic about him At least my takeaway when i'm looking at this series If he didn't have that inside of him, he would have just been another one of the greats as opposed to he would have been uh A larry bird or a magic johnson
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like there's you know, there's and then there's the legacy before and there's the legacy after and the legacy after There's a lot of people that are like, yeah, I learned from watching what he did and beforehand. Yeah burden and magic, you know but It it's it's not about like being one of the greats of all time It's about like going up and above and beyond to the to the fucking moon with it and you have to just like Fuel it with your insanity And that's the only way to be that far above the game and to create a
Starting point is 00:12:11 A situation where it becomes again this insane global phenomenon Like literally nike nike shoes were fucking nothing prior to him They weren't doing there wasn't much the entire Like the culture of basketball wearing the clothes do all of that shit Was all just based on his madness michael jordan reminds me uh because uh My dad watches a lot of golf and he watches it to fall asleep But when he's not asleep watching it, he'll be enjoying it
Starting point is 00:12:43 And it reminds me a little bit of tiger woods Who i'm going to assume also had that competitive nature of some degree And they both had the situation coming in. I remember talking to kids That were my age in high school that didn't watch basketball games even though they loved basketball Because jordan had ruined watching basketball because he was gonna win Mm-hmm Like oh the bulls are playing fucking whoever why even watch They're gonna lose or you know the my the team that I like is going to lose jordan's gonna crush them
Starting point is 00:13:20 With with tiger it was like why bother watching any golf tournaments are like four days Why bother watching anything other than like a highlight reel on fucking sunday Of tiger getting double eagles all the way up and down the fucking thing because nobody Like in golf it's crazy because you get to have like, you know Top of the board is tiger at minus 18 and in second place is This guy with minus five and there aren't enough holes left in the game to play For anyone to catch up. So why are we playing? He already won Yeah, it the thing that like stood out to is that like there's so many like insane athletes and um
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like achievers where you're like, okay, so tiger woods Uh, that was created by like insane parenting and just like from birth you are going to be this monster, right? Yep, uh venus and serena williams from birth. You are going to be this monster Michael jackson same thing, right? Um tyson brought in off the streets and hypnotized Into being the goat Literally hypnotized Into just becoming what he what he was, you know, um All of that was just like there's these these crazy backstories to a lot of these super athletes
Starting point is 00:14:49 But uh With jordan It wasn't like his dad didn't have it wasn't any of those things his dad wasn't you know, uh, um tiger woods that or anything like that. There wasn't any of those like You are Like turned into what you are it was just his own His own thing his own bail it in his mind that he unlocked the difference between external rewards and internal motivation
Starting point is 00:15:21 You can make anybody do anything. I think there's a old Chris rock bit where he's seen a bear ride a fucking tricycle And how do you do it? You nail his feet to the pedals and you beat the shit out of them You can do anything To anyone But you'll never get them to want it as bad as if it came from inside His own demon is grander in scope than any demon that could be implanted exactly Exactly that and and you will never and it's it's
Starting point is 00:15:55 it's almost a vagabond moment because Like there's there's like the demon inside and the thirst for violence and vengeance and all that shit and Musashi fights people that have you know learned Their way that that have learned their blood thirst and he he has his own that is Comes from his own places and his dad and shit, but like it's it's it's what you just said It's a totally it is like none of those Greats that were like raised to be that way Will have the level of insane fire that he did naturally, you know and and the part where
Starting point is 00:16:31 You will come to understand the gravity of it and just how big it is Is that in the literal modern segments of The the the series you're watching him sitting there in 2021 and Every time he talks about one of those grudges. It's still there It's absolutely even the ones that didn't happen Actively in his head. It's all still there You know
Starting point is 00:17:01 He admits to the he admits to the one where he's like, yeah, no, I he never said he never talked shit I just made it up. But what's the difference, you know But like the ones where there was something that happened happened Michael the ones where something did happen He still has it, you know and and um I've made reference to it before but it's like, yeah, he was Getting like a lifetime achievement award for for like sports and stuff the other day And there's a big ceremony and like one of his big defining moments was he got cut from the the pick In high school
Starting point is 00:17:35 and he brought the high school coach out and put him in the crowd and then spent A ridiculous amount of time in his in his speech Just belittling the coach How dare you cut me? Back in high school like it's it's now It's insane hands on one hand I'm not gonna say that that hasn't been at least everyone's fantasy about something once Where you get to lord it over somebody from your youth who was super wrong
Starting point is 00:18:10 Like I would love to go back to my old elementary school and tell mr. James that they did in fact Let me use a calculator in university Sure, for example, just check out every one of those that shit ain't gonna fly in in university Oh my god, you'll need to use a pen in the university. They won't take your your your tests if it's in a pestle that shit in university Soaring flying. Oh, man. Swimming. Oh flourishing super. I I saw sweet about that It would crack me up is my teacher saying that shit won't slide in university and then it's that shit in university And it's a picture of um bison doing is crouching slug. Yep. Yep. Take your pick Um
Starting point is 00:18:53 But that sounds like a miserable way to live your life. It sounds terrible. It sounds absolutely terrible constant agony Yes, it sounds like you you've sacrificed humanity to be that and he you know and they have those parts They have those moments where he's like, you know, yeah, like being inside here is not very fun You know, like he there's parts where he admits it and he talks about all that shit um But what but how bad do you want it? You know That's that and that comes up a lot in sports. They'll be like, you know, this this is uh You know the final round final set final play whatever it just kind of comes down to how bad you want it
Starting point is 00:19:33 and you know that is like Often described as a like a moment where both players are both people Know a lot about they know everything about each other and what's going on and it's just going to be like Can you go past your point of exhaustion or whatever? But in this particular case, it's like no like can you like forever damage your ability to be social in order to you know
Starting point is 00:20:00 like not just not just achieve everything you want but like Uh achieve other people's dreams so that they can't Deny everyone else the ability you know, yeah, there was like, uh, there was like a I want to say like 10 year period where jordan's existence denied other stars's existence. There was there was a There's what they made a particular like example of one dude where it was like It wasn't just about coming back and destroying them the next game after he was slighted because it was an x teammate um, but it was about
Starting point is 00:20:36 Absolutely shutting down that his ability to play the the game at all And like the team that the game ended up with the team having I think the lowest score For a team in the playoffs ever Because he just it was about shutting that like there was nothing there was no game to be played by the other hand You know, it was it was yeah. So anyway, all this to say it's it's a really good. It's a really good series. Um And it definitely is something that um, if you grew up if you're like the age where you know, I was I was five to 10 during
Starting point is 00:21:13 Most of that, you know, and and I remember it on tv. I remember my family watching I remember tuning in for the first game when he came back wearing the four five You know, I remember like a lot of these moments, but um it was like Really cool to go back to these memories and then kind of see Like, oh, this is what's happening behind the scenes. This is what's happening on the court This is the story of the game that I was not Like paying attention to or aware of because like I like again, my cousins were more basketball people
Starting point is 00:21:46 I was never really into it. So Like going back and kind of getting that side of things was very interesting and um Finding out about like shit like how yeah, like his the right-hand man Scottie Pippin You know was there the whole time being basically like second best in everything But being like under the like the 112th highest paid in the entire league or some crazy shit Where you're just like, yeah, he got completely fucked contractually and you know finding out what the fuck was going on with Dennis Rodman at the time no mention of north korea, of course, but You know, like all the all the wild shit that happened in that in that time frame
Starting point is 00:22:26 um Going back and getting some extra context on it was really interesting and then yes actually seeing The the the the the damage that michael jordan does to himself and how that comes out to still be in his head Fresh as if it were yesterday all these years later, you know um It's it's it's it's great and I'm sure a lot of people have seen it already But on the off chance that you haven't even if you're not necessarily interested in basketball
Starting point is 00:22:54 I'd say the last dance is a pretty good watch I Can grab that on Netflix. Yep. Yep. Okay. You know, I might take a look at that because like jordan's Mental state has always been fascinating to me The dude's so self-destructive And yeah, and like and like and they they do something too, which is really um interesting and they're they're smart in the way they made it where And you've seen all you've seen a lot of the memes, you know
Starting point is 00:23:26 I'm sure of him like laughing with the iPads and stuff But like that part of it is really smart where they they interview him they interview Phil Jackson they interview a bunch of the players at the time about all these moments, but then they Like after they do a round of interviews They take that footage and then go back and show them what other people said And then get them to react to what those people are saying. Oh, that's fascinating Yeah, so you get to see like the double take the response
Starting point is 00:23:58 In some cases on some of these moments where it's like here's the thing that happened And then here's the guy that says oh, this is what I was doing on that day And this is what I was like, yeah, I got to show him that I'm not scared of jordan And then just and now here's jordan watching the clip of the guy going I'm not scared of him But he's just laughing his ass off like okay, dude, whatever the fuck you think that was but you know You're like just like yeah showing you the response to What the people's like individual takes were on those things is a a smart way to tell the story
Starting point is 00:24:26 You know, it's funny because i'm thinking about it and I legitimately can't even remember If this is real because it's one of those things that seems ridiculous, but with jordan I could believe it it's like The fuck them kids line Is did he blow up a bunch of children at some charity thing like He did not actually say fuck them kids Okay, but
Starting point is 00:24:55 um, he thought it Every waking moment of his life. He thought it That's how he operated What's the origin of that and that's why he's the perfect person to You know walk up and Act at to walk up and interrogate when he hears the sound of dribbling that's been banned and and and I Have discovered what the origin of fuck them kids. It's not a spoken line But it was his actions
Starting point is 00:25:30 He was Oh god, who's cp3 chris paul bet him That if michael jordan had missed three shots then an entire like basketball camp would get free jordan's And then jordan just sunk all three baskets It was like nah Under no circumstances we are taking their shoes away
Starting point is 00:26:00 All you had to do was miss a couple times on purpose and all the kids get the free sneakers You can't bet world peace on him missing Fuck you No, no under no circumstances No Yeah, yeah, and like and you see it like come out in Like just the smallest moments where it's like oh his security guards are flipping quarters at the wall
Starting point is 00:26:33 And he's just like all right. Who's got what 200 bucks? Let's go and just Just turns it on You know and it becomes a thing because it's just yeah, you can't stop can't stop um Yeah, it's great. It's great and and again like yes, it it You know it's the type of attitude where it's like he's a role model, but Um You can't like how are you supposed to actually
Starting point is 00:26:59 Sit like yeah, you miss 100 of the shots you don't take and you know be like mike all that era is is like You know the the the posterized image, but like how you supposed to teach children the idea of like You cannot forgive yourself ever if you fail You you fight every fight and win every fight that you don't matter what the cost Create create struggles for you to overcome In order to be the best Yeah there's like
Starting point is 00:27:37 There is a really short line between this attitude And throwing your child off a cliff to make them stronger. Well, here's the problem. Is that like it's a small distance If this were a work of fiction Jordan would be The rival that like has the wrong motivations that doesn't care about friendship That is supposed to learn his lesson at the end of the day, but the real world doesn't work that way No, the villain wins the villain wins
Starting point is 00:28:11 There's no hero who's here to show that no the true power comes from friendship and the true power is about You know working together working with your team And and passing the ball Is better than just taking it to the bucket every time I mean, you know, we beat we beat the you know, we beat those monsters as a team, jordan There's like it's a famous quote, but there's no i in team michael no, but there's an i in win You know Like it's just there's yeah, this is the it's like you're looking for the protagonist to show up and and
Starting point is 00:28:55 Show the talented, you know natural Selfish rival that this is not the way but it never happens because that doesn't exist Oh well Dems the brakes at least all the people he crushed can look at him and all his monies And fame and look at him and see a dude that seems to be just constantly miserable I mean part of it is that like
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah, well the I mean the story about how that last season You know what it came together was all it's also about how it was forced to end you know, um outside of his control and because of that Like the feeling of leaving going out on top and as opposed to like ever Feeling like he couldn't do it
Starting point is 00:29:52 He felt he left feeling like he could continue to dominate forever And that feeling never goes away and then that's burnt in for the rest of your life Yeah, it's it's it's the kind of thing where like depending on your sport like You can age out gracefully I don't know man. You hit a there seems to be like a football basketball hockey line in the sand that is like no Even the average players are going to scream past you the power of youth is just too much. Yeah
Starting point is 00:30:28 But here, you know, it's just you know, he never gets that and he's the one who needs it the most So it's my favorite. That's my favorite thing about baseball Is the story of Babe Ruth and why Babe Ruth was so overweight And it's because he says I don't need to run to the bases if I knock him out of the park every single time So I'll just I'll I'll just knock him out of the park and just walk my way around. There you go Um, so yeah last dance That's that's good stuff um
Starting point is 00:31:09 And I also Jumped back on to dragon ball fighters this week Took a look at apparently it's a totally new game now. It's a it's it's the sequel. It's dragon ball fighters too Mechanically, it's a humongous difference crazy patches across the board um So a lot of character specific changes, you know that are um like
Starting point is 00:31:41 I would say significant if you keep up with the game probably less significant if you're not not Uh paying as much attention, but like moves got buffed stupid gohan. Shit. Yes So moves got buffed things got like overall like uh gold frieza timer resets every time you KO somebody now when the round restarts Uh, what really? Yeah, uh gohan crazy gohan installed allows him to just cancel all specials into all specials So he can he really can if you let him spend all that bar. He can do whatever he wants, you know Um, but all these character specific changes though are nowhere near as big as the system changes
Starting point is 00:32:27 so The particularly huge ones are one, um There's a new defensive mechanic that lets you do a vanishing attack. So you remember the teleport kick Yeah, I remember you right so before usually you do that in neutral or on offense Um, now you can do a version of it while you're blocking to get out of complete lockdown situations I mean that is thematically appropriate for dragon ball And you can do so for two bars um
Starting point is 00:33:00 Instead of before that the only thing you could do is they I mean at first the first version of the game you couldn't do anything Right, you just had to hold it and you watch gohan do those block strings that last 10 minutes on you and too bad um Then they put in um like tag block Guard canceling essentially so you switch out to a tag partner But if they know you're gonna do it they can just 2h the shit out of that switch And keep and and blow you up, right? So even that was like not perfect. You just had to be smart about it
Starting point is 00:33:37 Now here you get something that's a safer option Uh, still not perfect, but like yeah, it allows you to get out of a lot of it costs too far But it costs two bars exactly And then the huge one is they've made it so that at the end of any special move You hit a tag button and you switch Live during the combo What Marvel infinite
Starting point is 00:34:02 That's a completely that's a completely different game. Exactly. It's marvel infinite The best thing about marvel infinite was the gameplay at the end of like i've said it a bunch of times But it's like it was a fun game to play because the system was designed around Constant switching and that made the rhythm of the game really fun despite how shitty it looked So now When you do any special You tag out and you just continue the rest of that combo with your next teammate and that creates a whole lock A whole yeah, you you can you can just you just go and so you can just beam people in
Starting point is 00:34:41 Like beams beam attack and then but I mean it would be the person you can just But it wouldn't be it would it would be a stupid thing to do. It would be a risky thing to do But it costs no meter. It's free So the whole game is silly can become An an entire series of just constant tags and constant switching if you want it to be now you still want to Recover, you know red life when your team is behind is off-screen So it's not always a smart thing to bring them in But you have the freedom to do that if you want to and that changes the game entirely
Starting point is 00:35:21 It's free That's bananas. Yeah bandanas even so um went back took a look at that and uh, yeah, it's I mean, it's like one of these things were that plus, you know, there's this giant ass roster at this point and it's all there and um, you make a change like that at this point in the roster and The whole game has to now kind of reinvent itself
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, it's got to resettle everyone has to go back and look at their teams and realize. Oh shit. Um, I Have to rethink this team. Maybe I can do something better Maybe I can do something more with people that I originally couldn't use, you know moves that didn't have as much utility Um, we'll get better. Like I remember I know people are starting to talk about how like, um Broly and vegeto's grabs that like toss you downward now can just extend the combos fantastically You know, so like, uh, uh, they become more viable with that your assist types were already there. So yeah, it's just a whole new discovery like reinvent the game
Starting point is 00:36:26 you know, um pretty nuts that they did that and At the end of uh, all of those awesome updates Still no rollback. So Oh I was I was sitting here patiently waiting For you to be like, man, what a bunch of great changes and then I was gonna go. Oh cool
Starting point is 00:36:49 I can't wait to hop back online and play it with the new rollback. They added too, right? But you just you just jump to the end. Yep. So Um, I played I played with reggie, you know, like we played some local. Oh, yeah, of course That was that was what it was um But all this to say that like, yeah dragon ball has gotten a really fucking cool update and Um, it's it's a fantastic game. That's missing one thing You know, could they could they make like
Starting point is 00:37:25 Could they just well two things like fish cube f with Baku and and Bohan and the gang and put rollback in that So yeah, I don't know what um What's what's gonna happen? But I mean the fact that they're
Starting point is 00:37:50 Making this kind of change here is like, okay, they're not They're not done with the game. They don't clearly plan they're not shelving it but I You know, would they go back and put rollback in something that was like A more recent release because it takes much more work than it does for the older shit. I don't know I don't know the other thing is that like they they did do that interview where they said they were looking at
Starting point is 00:38:20 Putting rollback into some of their older titles And I was under What is apparently a mistaken assumption the dbz would have been like the highest priority on that No, I think I think they mean like yeah, like like that plus r type shit where it's like because again the older back The older you go the easier the the easier it is to do You know, because you're just at that point. It's the emulator more than anything um But yeah
Starting point is 00:38:46 That the patch is pretty fucking the patch is pretty fucking good. Um, so yeah, that was a lot of fun I like I'm going to I'm going to go and and like Kind of mess around a bit and come up with just You know a a an updated version of um the team I want to play so that if I ever do like have a random Copy of the game like
Starting point is 00:39:14 You know running somewhere like hey you want to play dbz? Yeah, I'll be I'll be kind of ready So I'm going to go do that, you know at the very least and and try to get some updated combos, but um Yeah, we'll we'll we'll have to see what happens with the with the the the online You know, or you can even you can even submit yourself to some matches in Delay based and just Try to fucking smell going back. Yeah If you get a good match sometimes you get a good match, you know, let's not like sometimes you can but it's it's just
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's maddening. It's maddening anyway, um So that was that's pretty much it um for me All right, I played three games this week two new one old actually one so new it's not out yet Uh, I had uh, I'll talk about pray first because I'd just be going back to it. I went back to pray I felt like it. I just said I felt like I want to play an immersive sim Because I watched a video on system shock and pray is basically system shock and man pray's a really fantastic immersive sim
Starting point is 00:40:24 Like they told me to go to calvino's lab Like as the first story icon and it had a big marker on them on the on the fucking, you know on the map That said go here do story And I said, yeah, I don't care about that And I went back to the beginning of the game and I stacked up some boxes and then like just barely made a jump to a ledge And got into an office that had no power that I wasn't supposed to be in and then a ghost attacked me And then I found a fucking recipe to manufacture level ups
Starting point is 00:40:56 original pray right No pray 2017. Oh Okay Somebody in the chat Confusedly Asks wait who calls them immersive sims the Literally the name of the genre for like 15 years Don't know what to tell you buddy. Um
Starting point is 00:41:19 but Um Yeah, that game's great And mimics are a great enemy as a as a default enemy. They're just headcrabs In that game like they're just Headcrabs that can attack you because they were a chair. Mm-hmm It's fantastic When they when they attack you are they still in chair form or a coffee cup form? No, what what'll happen is is that
Starting point is 00:41:49 You'll you'll you'll scan a room and it's the typical first person shooter like all the items in trash or strewn a boot And you'll walk up to there's a particularly good early game thing where you see a pistol on the ground And you go to pick it up and the pistol Wiggles a little bit And then turns into a Like a black tentacle head crab and runs away Okay, and then you you turn your camera to the right and see that there was a near There was an identical pistol maybe three feet away
Starting point is 00:42:21 So it creates a situation where you'll be Going into an area you've been And the game will occasionally shuffle the trash items around So that you can never be a hundred percent certain That what you're looking at chair is a chair. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great default thing and also I look over
Starting point is 00:42:47 At the people talking in our chat saying they've never heard that term before and I it's I don't it's a tag on steam. What do you want from me? Type it into steam you psychos. Ignore them Ignore them No, I want to they're raw. They're stupid. Well, I've embraced I've embraced An energy of they don't exist. Um, what is to stop you from just shooting everything in every room? Uh limited resources. Okay Like highly limited ammunition in particular
Starting point is 00:43:22 Um, and like it it's it's it's so you play bow shock one and two, right? Yeah, or just two one and two Okay, so you remember the amount of like just trash strone around everywhere Like like knocked over bullshit. What have you? Like actually Going up to every one of those items and shooting it would be a complete exercise of utility It'd be impossible. But are there good but like are there good things to pick up in the trash too? Yes, okay, so it rarely
Starting point is 00:43:57 Like items that you want will attack you But most of the time it's a chair a bottle a trash can etc And they they definitely spoon feeds you early on Where they'll they'll show like a trash can rolling down the stairs for no reason And then you go up to the top of the stairs and then there's an immaculate trash can sitting directly in the middle of the floor And you go, okay. I'm I'm pretty sure it's that one Now there's a bunch of regular enemies as well But just sprinkling the possibility of every stapler
Starting point is 00:44:31 Conceivably attacking you does a fantastic job of making you feel stressed in areas that you've cleared and recleared and recleared That game's great. That game's incredible um As for new shit, I had a trash thing earlier this week where I played Uh death trash and grime back to back Which I thought was hilarious that those games came out back to back uh death trash is a
Starting point is 00:45:03 God, I don't know how to it's like if fallout one had been an action game that you made on the Sega Genesis that that's that game with the grimy-ass sprites, huh? Yes grimy sprites and the meat Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, and it's it's filthy Looks pretty cool. Like you have a you you start with an ability to puke And you hit the right bumper and you puke Like it's it's trash it's
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's also a really fun like action rpg that has like It's basically fallout one like they give you the big map like fallout one you're going to towns you're exploring areas It's just a kind of like second genesey Second genesey is that what I want to say second genesey style like Rome and action game. It's it's stellar. It's absolutely fantastic Uh, it's very early access Like the kind of early access where it's getting three patches a day Kind of kind of thing, but it's fantastic and I recommend to everybody to check it out
Starting point is 00:46:09 And then I played grime right afterwards, which is a Metroidvania where you play as a bunch of rocks You play as rocks You play as a bunch of rocks I will get a photo for you. Okay. Are you like a golem made of rocks? You are a golem with a black hole as a head. Okay. That is different From actually just being rocks fine Uh and everything is rocks
Starting point is 00:46:41 But it's also gross and slimy And the rocks all look like freaks And it's got a little dark souls in there, but it's fun. I like it quite a bit Like I'm not gonna say it's not Like initial impressions did not give me Like the same like oh, this is gonna be a fucking thing like say blasphemous did Where blasphemous was just like This thing's incredible right away
Starting point is 00:47:08 But yeah, crime's pretty good I liked it Oh, and I played forgotten city which used to be a Skyrim mod Have you ever heard of that about this this just came out? um Don't maybe not so Forgotten city used to be a Skyrim mod and they remade it as its own game in Unreal Engine
Starting point is 00:47:33 And you start playing it and if you didn't know it was a Skyrim mod you would know right away because It zooms in on characters when you talk to them and the camera feel is the same and the environments look exactly like Skyrim But it's Rome though It's totally Rome Don't worry about it. It's like kind of hilarious. Okay, but uh the premise is Very Majora's mask and the gameplay is very outer wilds in that You are stuck in a horrible time loop in which someone will commit a sin and kill the entire city And you have to discover who is going to be responsible
Starting point is 00:48:14 And so you'll be talking to people and figuring out how to solve their problems Only to loop and solve those problems instantly with the items or knowledge that you had prior As you work your way through a mystery. It's really good. That's a really good way to um Capitalize on limited resources. That's a good style of game to make I absolutely absolutely love it like um I knew it was going to be something special where I talked to a guy
Starting point is 00:48:43 Who was going to kill himself and I was unable to convince him not to kill himself And then I looped it and then I talked to him again And then I used the information he had told me right before he killed himself To try and talk him out of it and then I found out. Oh, he's in debt bondage So he's not gonna not jump off this cliff unless I give him a bunch of money So then I did it. I looped again and gave him a bunch of money And then got him out of uh debt bondage And then was able to get like
Starting point is 00:49:14 Uh blackmail information on his employer to just release him anyway And then I looped again and just went straight to his employer and got him out scot-free Like okay good no problem. Oh, and then I looped again And just told a guy Hey Go to this dude and tell him, you know his secret and then tell him to release this guy from his debt I need to go do something else Whoa
Starting point is 00:49:45 Okay, so You use majora's masking it but there's multiple solution layers Yes, and the main thing is that you keep every piece of information and every item that you're traveling back through So the first thing that I have found in the game is a girl's dying of poison And the guy who has the cure won't sell it. So I stole it from him Caused the city to die because that's a sin looped it and then just gave her the cure Because I kept it. Mm-hmm and then on future loops I would just give the cure to somebody else and go go
Starting point is 00:50:20 Go cure this lady. I got stuff to do I'll talk to you later. So the the the the Like layers of solution are also for Saving time so that you can just get to the the bigger things. Yeah, because it's everything's working on a schedule kind of thing Gotcha. Yeah, it's great. Ender lilies great great game Ender li- oh, that's a different game. That was Forgotten City Ender lilies is a Metroidvania that I played Right after Forgotten City that is uh well produced visually immaculate has fantastic music and a cool setting and I didn't like it
Starting point is 00:50:58 Uh, I didn't like how it felt to jump and swing your sword in it Oh So if you if you guys Want to check out Ender lilies you can it seems to be a high quality indie Metroidvania But I just didn't like the part where you actually played it Okay I saw some footage of ghost song pop up and I was like man Oh, wow
Starting point is 00:51:29 That existed Yeah That took me for a ride Just One of the first kick starters I've ever backed Ender like here's 15 minutes of gameplay and I was just like I don't even know What to feel or say at this point, but I can say that last update was on July 23rd
Starting point is 00:51:58 It was so it's been so long that I like I was scrolling through the comments And everyone was just like oh this game looks cool Wow, look at this thing and it was like it was like the memory of the kickstarter and the weight and the pain Is washed away with time. It's been that long that it's all just new audience going like can't wait to play it Okay, so The july 23rd update was the final update to the demo saying that there's been a lot of progress made in the full game The first comment on that update is the demo is great Except I'm getting a ton of game crashes and worse problems continuing the game crashes seems random
Starting point is 00:52:43 No error message. Nothing unity just crashes. The game loading issues are weird I can see my character, but they sink through the floor So it's coming along great It's coming along it's good Okay, so uh, let's just get things in order the uh, you mentioned, uh, grime was the agonist game Yeah, I okay, I mentioned pray is the immersive sin made by arcane in 2017 that I've talked about before It's fantastic. It's about mimics and spaceship. I mentioned death trash, which is a second genesis style Fought one game. That's fantastic. It's on steam early access. There's grime, which is of dark soulsy metroidvania about rocks
Starting point is 00:53:32 Then there's forgotten city, which is a roman murder mystery time loop game and ender lilies, which is an anime metroidvania, okay um was forgotten city like Did you say that this was A mod of skyrim or it felt like I was sky No, it literally was a mod of skyrim. Uh, that came out a couple years ago. Okay, and then it became its own thing It won a bunch of writing awards and then the three guys who made it were like we should put this out as a real video game Okay, okay
Starting point is 00:54:04 I beat it over the weekend. Uh, it's great It's fantastic Cool cool Um Yeah, I like the sound of that Uh, that's pretty much it for me. If you want to check out more crap this week, you go to twitch.tv slash pat stairs at I'm playing humankind tomorrow
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Starting point is 01:03:46 All right So a couple things happened this week Woolly how excited are you to hop online and play biking? Oh, I was I was gonna go other places first but uh, well one things one things for sure uh The obvious guess that everyone made when they first announced the samurai showdown crossover character Is the right one
Starting point is 01:04:14 Like it's like the most obvious fucking thing in the possible world. They didn't they didn't bork it up Um, biken is coming to samurai showdown The the character I play and the game that I like Are are coming together. So that's pretty cool Uh, also it's a game of fairly limited limited moves for a lot of the cast. It's um Um I was I was I would not be surprised if The translation meant her losing a lot of her kit, but based on the trailer it looks like she's got
Starting point is 01:04:50 Most of everything that you would expect off of her rev 2 version She has tatami gashi. She has yosan sen she has Susuran she has the Um, well, she has the run she has the the the the grappling hook the air grappling hook The air she has the guard point crap, you know, um And the different follow-ups as well. So I'm like, oh Interesting. It seems like they gave her a pretty complete looking
Starting point is 01:05:19 A move list. Um, they even have her I was watching That trailer and I was like, is she gonna do yosan sen on the ground? No, never It was busted You just have to be good enough to to do a tiger knee input for it to make it as low as possible Yeah, um, and they even yeah, and it's and it's it's really is like rev 2 specifically, you know, because like She's got the uh, the 2h like the big sliding slash instead of the spin blade attack. So Yeah, um, I'm I'm kind of curious to see if like I don't know if she's she's gonna be too good because she has
Starting point is 01:06:01 So much of her kit and if you I'm sure you'll be able to beat everyone online with her, buddy If you compare it to uh, you know, some of the character characters with like a much smaller move list It's just like, oh wow, she's got tools for everything. Um She looks good. She looks accurate. I got nothing to say about that. I can see the, um There's little moments that we're like she's doing like the little walk up in the intro and Like it's not gonna play out that full poem or like That that plays out in the beginning
Starting point is 01:06:36 So she just kind of like talks a little bit of shit afterwards But they keep the effect there and when the moon appears during her like triple slash super It's kind of floating in a way that is not like The same way that it appears in in rev 2. So you're kind of like, yeah, they kind of dropped it in there, but um Anyway, it looks good I just obviously, uh Will I'll enjoy her existence in this game and then I will look around for people in my immediate vicinity who might want to play it
Starting point is 01:07:11 in person And uh, that'll be that That'll be that no, um So to be perfectly honest, I've mentioned this before on the podcast, but uh, there is a solution quote-unquote for Samurai showdown online and it's parsec Yeah So
Starting point is 01:07:30 Uh to actually get some even then that's that's like a manual Implementation yes, so fortunately like um, you know Having become a part of the tournament scene in in sam show and making some friends and such. Um I feel like Uh, you know, there's a bunch of people that are also gonna be you know jumping on and playing and and getting some games in There's gonna be discords and shit. So um, yeah, the parsec solution is not a
Starting point is 01:08:02 Like new player friendly one because you have to seek out your own competition Um outside of the game and arrange for the matches to happen So i'm not a fan of that for the new player But personally that's how i'm gonna get my matches in Well, luckily the new player isn't playing samurai showdown. So we don't have to worry about that correct but but the power
Starting point is 01:08:31 of No biken no buy people The power of the Like the people 35 of them. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, you have to no no no you have to understand something There are A Fucking there's a an ocean of guilty gear og's that hate Biken heads
Starting point is 01:08:54 Like biken mains as they would call them because it's like yeah the biken main as a thing represents the person who Doesn't actually know or play guilty gear. They just like the character and they represent like the Like a horrible part of the fan base that they just like stop it. You don't even like the game. You just want her Yeah, yeah, right and so there's a whole lot It's possible That some of those the the people who love biking are gonna grab samurai showed out and give it a shot I I fucking I think biking absolutely rules and I think she's great, but I don't play her Yeah, why would I do that? Yeah, well because she's not she's not particularly
Starting point is 01:09:33 You know, she's got a weird ass move list that that you got to figure the fuck out From day one, I remember like I was like, oh, this is so weird But we're just gonna grin and bear it. We're just gonna deal with it And you know after after some time I'm just like, okay, I like what this is now. I like this counter based um You character I actually like her. I don't like any of her modern designs I like her original xx design where she looks more homeless kenshin. Yeah, I agree Yeah, I like I like when she's like I'm just yeah, I'm hobo kenshin. Totally. I I feel the same way
Starting point is 01:10:08 um I don't like I don't dislike some of the glow-ups in terms of like the the eye patch looks pretty cool um, the buddy airs I can you could take it or leave it um But I do agree like the oh the rugged look of the the original kenshin hobo form was pretty strong as well I mean, I I'm seeing people shocked but like you call me a hipster, but if you really want a hipster Shit had opinion about guilty gear
Starting point is 01:10:37 I was having an argument with a mutual friend of mine Usual friend of ours about how much I don't like eno's new design Ah interesting. Okay. I really just like it. Huh I like it. Uh, I dig the color pop. I think it's cool. I think I I also think that's cool but I I can't I don't like how Like she's supposed to be a sexy character And I don't like this is this is the last time you're ever gonna hear me talk about like this And I think that she's just so boring looking now. Hmm. And the number one reason for that is that she's covered her shoulders
Starting point is 01:11:15 Wow, I super disagree. I think she's just I think it's taking her fashion style sense and like adding some trimmings to it that are a little more like stylish in my opinion Like the shades like her hips are wider and her boobs are bigger and she's actually wearing less clothes overall I'm like yeah the shades the color the the the and and the actual like Black shirt red jacket contrast like as a matching thing like I'm like I I dig it. I super dig how she looks but regardless, um when it comes to
Starting point is 01:11:55 Bikin, yeah, there's a bunch of stuff with with the new with the new version. That's like it's different I still really like her new form too But um one thing that I'll always dig is whenever someone has one eye The most badass version of an eye patch is none just an eye closed like guts Yeah, right and early bikin was that early bikin was like, yeah, she has one eye How do you know because she keeps it closed and she's got a scar over it Yeah, and then there there's the second version of that is like it's not an eye patch. It's like uh longer hair That happens to cover it and then past that is it's still not an eye patch
Starting point is 01:12:34 It's um It's a piece of cloth. Yeah. Yeah, and then past that is Your regular eye patch past that is your ornamental eye patch and past that is my absolute most hated eye patch ever Which appears in the third season of battle start galactica, which is a skin tone eye patch Which I Fucking hate So it just like it looks like you have no eye Yeah, oh my god
Starting point is 01:13:09 Oh god, I hate it Uh, it's it's played by that old man. Oh god, uh, who you wouldn't have played skyrim who plays uh general tullius in uh skyrim Sol tie. Here we go. Let's grab a fucking Photo for you. Oh, it's the shittiest eye patch ever. I hate it. I have to grab a let me take a look but I What's the what's this? I'll send it to you. Sure. What's his name? Oh, okay. Okay. It's it's now that's pretty ugly. It's awful But I'll see you that and I'll raise you
Starting point is 01:13:47 Anthony Hopkins as Odin Oh Odin's golden eye patch. Do you remember that thing? Ah barely It just looks so dumb It looks so dumb Because he's wearing golden armor. So they're trying to make it look all fancy, too And it just looks lame
Starting point is 01:14:13 I It's always bothered me. I hate his eye patch so much. I saw a good contender over on my chat screen What about sunglasses with a blacked out lens? That's classy. I like that. I'll take that. I'll take that That's that's that's nice. Yeah, I like that. It's a it's a version of obscuring it I met a gentleman on the street the other day walking the dog He had an eye patch just a regular old black eye patch And he looked like an old working man and he looked cool as shit. Yeah No, totally. I mean
Starting point is 01:14:48 Yeah, Thor has a similar thing, but his is just black So it just ends up looking like an eye patch without the strings. I guess But it's fine And uh a monocle patch There's a lot of ways to play it, but yes the closed eye Just is like a particularly like Grimy fucking hardcore way to to play it and I and I dig that Hey, you know who's you know who gets a little bit of a little golf clap from me
Starting point is 01:15:15 As like it's not the best, but it was still pretty decent was kakashi just dipping his head kakashi A little bit kakashi's a good eye patch That's a good one Because they're still patch. He's just kind of yeah I'm lazy Um solid eye too much going on Yeah, that's way too much too much going on You know
Starting point is 01:15:35 Big boss sure. It's just an eye patch Solidized. Yeah, there's a whole lot there Too busy big boss gets a thumbs up for screwing up your first person camera Uh what happens In mgs3 once you get your eye shot out you do you get a pretty strong vignette on one side of the screen if you go into first person Mode after that. Okay. Okay. That simulates if you were to close one of your eyes You you lose a little bit of vision on that side Yeah, um
Starting point is 01:16:11 And then he's gonna get that butterfly Uh, the the what's what's your macaw it's um Dracon guard three flower That's good. That's an eye patch It's a weird one, but it it counts You know and I will give one person ever one person one character ever a pass on their gaudy ostentatious eye patch
Starting point is 01:16:37 and that's goro majima with his Fucking eye patch with like a gold snake on it Because it fits perfectly with his like absolutely goddamn hideous snakeskin coat and fucking boots But yeah Anyways all that to say biking is in is in samurai showdown I mean for a while when that there's a point where so the the trailer leaked early and um There or rather it was uploaded. I think on the korean
Starting point is 01:17:12 Version first so people like were like sharing that trailer uh, and then um, there was a silhouette that was officially put out and I think that um Like there was a point where they're like, what if it's angie and he's holding an umbrella behind him And that big like hair poof is actually just you know, like that or one of the fans and it's like angie bike in Nagoriyuki Those would all work
Starting point is 01:17:41 for samurai showdown But like that's about it You got to be a samurai or at least something sort of From that era and like perhaps even if you're not a samurai then at least be like Japanese I guess you know to fit in with the With the theme but you know, they also have got the the warden in there So, you know at some point you're kind of just like okay. It's a soul caliber rule
Starting point is 01:18:10 And I guess Not feeling it. Well, I'm just glad that they didn't do the like what are you what the fuck you're talking about branding We're putting soul bad guy in sam show Like oh dude, I totally disagree You I they should have put justice in there. Oh my god But I like my like tonal nightmare shit
Starting point is 01:18:41 Yeah, I want I want the guest character to be like fucking stupid I I would honestly like accept a version of any any version of justice coming back since it feels like that's never gonna happen Uh, but he's talking about Justice that's next up on the docket Okay Uh I don't know. Anyway, I'm just gonna continue what I was saying um
Starting point is 01:19:22 I Oh Oh god. Yeah, okay. No, I thought you're supposed to be the guilty gear man Oh boy, okay, so So Next you're gonna tell me you don't understand the joke behind the universal will So I saw a lot of people talking about the um the whole like Check it out. Aria is in it now and shit like that and it's like
Starting point is 01:19:54 The whole point of Her Strive story is that she's not aria And that she's not justice It's her whole thing is that she has her own her own identity So the whole like shoving them all together is the same person is what she expects people to do But she Like gets erased as a person when you do that. So that's literally her thing. So it's like
Starting point is 01:20:19 She's jack-o That's the point of her story is that she's not them, you know They put justice in the new they put justice in the new guilty Her hair is red like justice Like everyone that's going like yo, oh, shit. It's the aria thing checking out aria isn't an awesome like, okay So literally like the story's about her. She's not other people. She gets to be herself, you know Like it's the most meaningful thing like that she gets she can do is when Like soul literally goes. Hey, I've never called you aria or anything else. I've only called you jack-o
Starting point is 01:20:57 you know So anyway, yes um dlc too Is that soul's wife? He thought about her It's not it's not it's not the wife Think about wife Kill wife why fight back there it is bam bam bam boom life good
Starting point is 01:21:24 You Joke funny think about wife joke funny Uh jack-o and wife change name still wife Well anyway, um the uh The new the new jack-o has has arrived and Yeah, I I definitely I definitely i'm like looking at this. It's like, okay, so
Starting point is 01:22:03 From the moment, you know, you see her you see her in the in the story mode and all that you're like, okay She's here. They're you know, she'll probably show up, but you can't possibly Keep her the same and if you're a jack-o player You have to set your expectations to be completely different because The housing system That she brought to rev was
Starting point is 01:22:26 so ridiculously like Unbeginner friendly And also like it represents like one of the wackiest kind of designs non-conventional fighting game characters ever made because She's meant to be a send-off to Uh mobas Yeah, so I follow a A gentleman youtuber named uh leon massie. He's good channel. He's a huge fan of guilty
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yep, and he's got a great channel. I love his channel. I got into it based on his jump arc video And every time jack-o comes up on a screen um He starts to like get super mad And like he hates that character so much Because she's just an rts moba freak Character I've never played as jack-o But apparently she's just spawning units like a fucking command and conquer base
Starting point is 01:23:26 Yeah, um I mean have you seen any of her like I've seen it. Yeah, and it looks like a mess Um, because basically the deal is is you put down um You put down a bunch of uh Houses that spawn units, right? So okay, so there's this operating theory Just to go back that the ramlethal sisters are like homages to genres because l felt it represents an homage to fps's with all her guns right and um
Starting point is 01:24:00 And marriage sure And uh and jack-o represents like yeah like um overture or rts and things like that because Yeah, and and guilty gear. Mm-hmm. This is just So you put down um, you put down a bunch of fucking uh houses And each house will automatically generate minions that will float around and attack you right and then um
Starting point is 01:24:33 When you you wait long enough or you do other things to interact with them they level up and then the units get stronger And then yeah, um They they flood the screen. Yes ramlethal represents tecan as an homage. She has the diagonal attacks and Normally, she's supposed to homage like the the the operating theory is that she homage is tecan with her with her That's a cool idea with her. She should be in tecan because she has normals that that are like tecan style inputs. Yes, uh, so um You end up with uh a screen that eventually fills up with a bunch of fucking Like, uh, what lanes or creep or whatever the fuck, you know, like minions that fill flood the lanes lanes
Starting point is 01:25:15 Yeah, and then that's your and then you're fighting alongside them as jack-o and your goal is to essentially use her to You know fight she's she's okay, but she's not particularly amazing But if you let those houses level up The they will get overwhelmed and she's like the scariest character in the game almost this this feels like the kind like a like a more controllable Like visually understandable version of like Eric Cune's
Starting point is 01:25:45 Flood the screen with bullshit character bugs and shit. Yeah. Yeah. So in this case though Like it gets it's not just putting the houses down You you pick them up and you relocate them on the screen for advantage So you You pick up the houses and throw them around the screen while you're fighting And occasionally when you get a chance to back off you can pull out her keyboard And control them to do other things to improve them Their rates and and such and while you're standing around them you're gaining tension
Starting point is 01:26:20 Um, you're you're gonna play guilty gear too. Whether you like it or not. It's fucking crazy, right? She's such a nutty character So, um, she's micromanaging her her minions while she's fighting And uh, she also introduces like she's like in that game Dust was not as multi utility as it is in in uh, right Strive because it was it wasn't a throw button as well. It was just launch And sweep but for her every direction with dust becomes a different special So she has oh, that's nice. She has yeah, she has a hit grab. She has a big izuna drop She's got the launch the sweep, you know
Starting point is 01:27:00 Like she's got a a reversal and then an air dive kick and an air projectile all off of dust You know, um So I'm looking at all that and I'm like, okay Just the dust button doesn't work For what strive needs and then the housing system all those button the housing system Doesn't make any sense for new players at this point when you're bringing the game out and kind of like Uh stripping it down in these ways They can't possibly keep her intact. And so yeah
Starting point is 01:27:30 What we see in this trailer is a different ass version of her that's going to pull out one minion and kick it at you And I guess she's going to have like three that'll float around and she can do things with them, you know Um, but if you're if she's going to basically venom them at into position and knock them into each other But like if you're looking for the old jack-o if you played the old jack-o You can't expect any of that to come back because What like it's the weirdest shit ever different character. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Um So anyway, uh smells I'm holding a cat and he's smelly
Starting point is 01:28:08 She it seems letting you know so it does it seems like she's yeah gargoyle style pulling out the minions knocking them into each other And they'll they'll probably level up in other ways um And it seems like I saw like at one point the um, she has an anti projectile field like a An ages field that I think is going to come off of the minion uh, and what Is probably most interesting Is the way the trailer uh shows
Starting point is 01:28:36 Her mask sometimes being on and sometimes being off Which might indicate if it's not just a cosmetic that she has two forms And yeah one form is old jack-o and the others is aria. Yeah, so so there's a taunt where she pulls it off But like uh, you see there's there's points in in the early part of the trailer Where she's fighting with the mask on and then you see her at towards the end of the trailer With the mask off and and it has little things like trick or treat. No trick and treat right and um in the story Uh jack-o because she's incomplete Always had two voices. So it's less clear in english
Starting point is 01:29:18 If you watch the dub and uh, you're gonna get you're gonna get it, but you're not gonna hear it as clearly as you do in the japanese Uh, um voice acting where she switches between like a a child voice and an adult voice Right and there's a bunch of line reads where she seamlessly goes from one into the other because she's incomplete I heard some of that in the english read. Yeah, because she's she's mentally incomplete from when she was like created and um As a result she has the the you know childlike personality and then like the scientist that is also in there So, um, which do you think is the one that comes out when she takes her normal pills? Oh, no, I don't I don't think there's any
Starting point is 01:30:00 No, there's no dream music playing For for jack-o um But the mask, uh might be the um, yeah, like a child mode versus an adult mode You know And I think it's possible that it'll affect her move list in some way if it's it's like stances that'd be rad It could do it could just be cosmetic But it would be really like nice to have
Starting point is 01:30:30 Some depth in that form if you're taking away the houses then you give jack-o full players like something else to sink into You know You're enjoying your uh, I'm not gonna play that character your normals reference your normals pills reference Normal pills, man That's the point like we're sitting here and we don't know what the point of the mask is But really we do know what the point of the mask is In in story in plot the reason for it is because um, it's because the child needs Some enclosure to feel more comfortable in the world
Starting point is 01:31:15 So like the that's that's actually like the the that's what the mask is That's the in-story reason for it Uh, anyway, so that's cool. Well, I'm sure our friendly on who um Is a big venom fan will be thrilled to see this as venom replacement ah Yeah, I mean Now to be fair And that's that's the that's always the trademark of woolly about to say something but yeah
Starting point is 01:31:52 I don't know. How do you how do you feel about? plot Having its effect on the gameplay in such a way where Venom had his ending He is now Living another life peacefully. I don't care. I don't care. I don't think there's a genre That anyone could care less. Yeah, I guess about like I guess scorpion god is revenge
Starting point is 01:32:20 And then he never came back to mortal combat ever again Venom if you want to say hey, run Indians got a new move Venom is running a bakery with robokai and they're living their best life Would you deny them that happy ending? Yeah, absolutely because the story in a fighting game is literally Like filler to justify their purpose on the roster Yeah, it can be can be
Starting point is 01:32:53 But anyway, like there's an old there's a there's an old quote about uh story in video games is like story in a porno I think it's a genre marrow quote It's like You know, it's you don't need it, but it's nice to have it or something like that story in A fighting game exists to get people in the room You don't need to have a story as to why they're in the room but
Starting point is 01:33:21 The the idea that like well You know Venom Venom hung up his pool cue and said he'll never fight again Who fucking cares? A ghost told him to do it there done I mean to you know, we've had versions of this to me I'm just like yeah, whatever you want to do if you want to bring him back bring him back You don't you don't you want to do a new version of him? You want to do an alternate version of him?
Starting point is 01:33:46 You want to do a different anything you want to have homage move-wise or just don't ever do it again. That's fine too new things are good I have no problem. All things are good I don't think for a second that they would have not put Venom in because they wrote him a story I don't think the guilty-geared staff is like that. I think if they really wanted Venom to be there They would have come up with some justification Just like how king and tecan keeps needing more money for that orphanage until armor king dies. Yeah, um So, but I I remember
Starting point is 01:34:21 The halo 343 people the halo people Talking about stuff they wanted to do in the games, but it went against like the halo bible And just how stupid that is So um canon isn't a rule book to stop you from having cool ideas. No, I the the If realistically if they absolutely wanted they they definitely could like make a version of that like work, but It depends like I feel like okay zappa is a better example of a character where you have more material to work with right? Zappa coming back would be super interesting because zappa has become a completely different person in the story at this point So the version of him that you remember where he's all possessed and crazy with the ghosts and shit
Starting point is 01:35:08 Is right a while ago and now he's a super like intelligent uh paranormal investigator That understands the fuck out of all things supernatural and has control over them, right? So if he came back as somebody who has like completely dominated his apparitions And is using them consciously that would be a really interesting version of the character Um, yeah, you could do two versions you could bring zappa back and have him be I mean superficially similar like he'd have a similar type of move, but it wasn't a big angry, but he's become someone else Right or you could have boppo
Starting point is 01:35:50 Sure who was also Just happened to be Attacked by the same ghosts. Oh, wow. What a coincidence new 13 lambda 14 new 12 lambda 13 Yeah, they actually already did that they had like five characters that were all the same character But we're all different people kyo kusanagi kyo one kyo two kusanagi You know, yeah, yeah, we which one's the real one the real ones the one that says kyo kusanagi on it guys
Starting point is 01:36:24 You know, we've we've done this before um and uh Yeah, you can you can you can do whatever you want with it, but um You if you were to get venom back in this point, he would one His hair would be tied back. He'd be dressed as a as a baker He'd be a lot more polite perhaps cool
Starting point is 01:36:48 That I think that would actually be really cool And he'd be is there is there a baking implement that is functionally and structurally similar to a pool kyu Maybe maybe if he um Maybe if he teamed up with jam for a half bakery half chinese food restaurant They could go into business together We need to go fight the government because they're not giving us a life of liquor license for our bakery restaurant Go Anyway, anyway, um
Starting point is 01:37:29 Yeah, I think um I think if you're a jack-o-fan, you're probably Like gonna be like ah, you know, you're gonna you're gonna have to relearn your character Which is never a particularly like super fun thing But considering how out there she was it just makes sense, you know, yeah, I would agree with that um when they brought uh blank a back around in five I was like Fuck him up fam. What are you gonna like if he has anything resembling what he used to?
Starting point is 01:37:59 Like I'll you know, sure that'll that'll be fine. And you know, they they they changed a lot about him Blanca also represents like a really good version of what we're talking about with storyline. I'm like, what's blanca's story in sf5? He's trying to sell like action figures. Yeah, you know blank a chin whatever But I also like was like, yeah, he could just literally not come back. You know, that's that's a thing too um I I was uh, I was expecting them to focus on the characters that never made it back from alpha and third strike And that never made it into four, you know, but uh, and they did to a degree but they left a lot on the table with those Um, but anyway, um, that's jack-o
Starting point is 01:38:48 Um They were finally able to balance justice for competitive play I mean, they did in the last version of of Uh accent core, but it was not It was not fun to fight nonetheless Yeah, they they tried to make they tried to make uh cliff and justice like nerf nerf nerfed versions But they're still fucking that's that's that's not fun I think the only version of that character that I actually really liked was um
Starting point is 01:39:20 Gargoss in killer instinct Because even though he wasn't like actually boss strong, it sure felt like it Like with the the fists and the minions. Yeah, he's he's super cool Uh, justice could just fill the screen up with like like four or five slow moving projectiles and then just like Fullscreen dash if you come too close Cool, it was a problem, but she's so rad. I just I want her back anyway. I just want that design But the other thing too is even when they showed like the the plot like character They went with the armorless version. So like that armor itself is already like gone, you know
Starting point is 01:40:04 Anyway, um There was also got this week. Well, so while we're since we're talking about the fighting game stuff I'll I'll just bring up a shout out to a really cool video um By hold back to block What are the worst matchups in fighting games? Oh, that's such a I I I hit that on and I the instant I I started watching it. I'm like fucking sagot zengief better be
Starting point is 01:40:31 Oh, it's not it's the first one That's a good thing you said you mean Oh, yeah. Well good enough same thing Zangief seth is the true 9 1 10 0 Batch in in street fighter 4 Like absolutely nothing to be done, but it gets so much worse than that Yori chins the one that I couldn't believe I'd never heard of it. Yeah, so there's a video
Starting point is 01:40:56 So so hold back to block the best of on just put out this This video and I appreciate it as someone who kind of looks at this and the style of it And I'm like I like that fighter pedia energy You know Going down I like it a lot um, this is a great video that just explores some of the worst matchups in all the fighting games and Zangief versus seth is the one you knew about that was like. Yeah, it's it's particularly insane because
Starting point is 01:41:25 um Seth just does everything and zangief does nothing and there's nothing everything you can do I can do better and I can do everything more than you And if you think you can try to maybe get something going I have like eight things I can do to get away from it um including zangief's own moves But but it stops being About like oh, that's a really hard fight Very quickly because like yeah, you get to you mentioned yori versus chin from ko f 97
Starting point is 01:41:56 Uh or not was it 96? I forget but it's one of the ko f games where um There's a stage that you specifically jump off of um Like a little uh, uh uplifted area and you land 95 95. Thank you So you jump off of the fucking stage Uh top and you land on the ground, but everyone The fight doesn't start until your until um, you jump off
Starting point is 01:42:24 But the different characters jump at different heights So chin floats longer than yori does And that means that by the time it's ready go and you can move yori can do his like reka And catch chin out of the air 100 of the time every time and go into an infinite in italy And and like he can carry him to the corner And just wreck him immediately 100 of the time, you know So, um Yeah, like it's it's a it's a fucking it's a great one
Starting point is 01:42:58 Um and and and that's like number two or three and it goes even more busted from there Just like purely unwinnable broken matchup. Well, no, no that no that's like that's like the later on in the list Actually, that's that's pretty much the oh, i'm thinking of the x-men one Oh, that's second to last yori versus chin is last, but yeah second to last is you got that x-men shit. Um Uh saber tooth versus gambit like saber tooth has an air he has a he has an air command grab
Starting point is 01:43:32 that um Basically like if there's some weird fucking bug with it that allows it to work I like it like it's under any under any circumstances, but on gambit. It's particularly impressive. Yeah, I've there's a couple of details about it It's a command grab that doesn't work properly And you don't need to touch them for it to work and it chains into itself But also, uh, gambit has a bug where he can't move at the start of round two and three. That's what it was exactly Yes, yes, yes instant loses. So that's a gambit can't move and this command grab Which uh teleports you from anywhere into his hands
Starting point is 01:44:13 Is completely unavoidable and for gambit, especially there's nothing you can do but eat the move for the whole round There's no game. It's not a bad matchup. There's no game to play You know, um It's a great video. So go check that out. Uh, shout out to hold back to block fucking injustice one zoning is Not fun It's just not fun. I Legitimately had fun initially playing as uh, solomon grendy in that game
Starting point is 01:44:46 I enjoyed a lot of you know, his grappling and shit like that And then you just find out like oh Oh, no, if superman or if zod or if Um fucking cyborg Just want to stand back and make you work for the clock You're gonna do nothing but work for the clock Hope you get a touch. Hope you don't fuck up Yeah
Starting point is 01:45:15 Uh, well, what do you expect from the game? They brought us the wonderful world of pig advantage I fucking love pig advantage cracks me up Uh, a couple other things we got a pretty Uh Good look thanks to the new trailer at bomb rush cyber funk now And we can see that it's not just skates, it's also skateboarding And, um, this game is fucking coming along great
Starting point is 01:45:50 It looks incredible. Um, I think it was shown off as part of the nintendo Uh trailers that they were just pumping up this week Hideki Naginuma gets a shout out officially on a nintendo trailer And yeah, man team reptile just just doing it. It's it's kind of It's kind of embarrassing at this point because adding skateboarding also like makes me like It brings it brings a little bit of that like tony hawk gameplay fun that I particularly enjoy to the situation and in the meantime, uh
Starting point is 01:46:27 Jetset radio news is they're putting a little Jets they're putting a little beat monkey ball character in the new monkey ball game So you can that's nice. You can roll that ball around and collect paint cans So yeah bomb rush cyber funk everybody fucking go take a look This thing looks super badass Um Yeah, it's got the steam wishlist page going up as well
Starting point is 01:47:00 We can also officially declare That knuckles is now allowed to say the n word officially But that's not the real question woolly the question is will he call tales the n word? I don't imagine I don't imagine But Idris Alba has announced that he will be playing knuckles in sonic 2 That's like high end casting amazing for knuckles. I can't believe they went that far If that's really yeah, that's above
Starting point is 01:47:48 Pay grade above expectations on what you needed There's a lot of people that could have played a good knuckles, but They really didn't have to go that hard for it I was talking with Paige and Eli about it and Eli didn't want to talk about it But we roped him into the conversation anyway, and it was just this interesting conversation about like What fucking voice is Idris Alba gonna use and we we played around with the idea that he would just use his regular ass I really hope he keeps the accent I really really do it would be so great for him to just be british ass knuckles now
Starting point is 01:48:33 Straight out of london There's no way it's like I remember watching luther and having moments of like This is supposed to be dramatic and I don't know I just don't know what these fucking people are saying It I want it. I want it to just be thick And and as Idris as he wants it to be don't try to don't even try to like stringer bell it Don't don't try to dumb it down and make it sound, you know western His fucking knuckles might you know just go all in with it and like
Starting point is 01:49:15 Maybe the whole planet of like a kidneys is british That's what it is now That'd be a weird swing They're all snatched they're all just they're all just like yeah, we'll see Yeah, yeah, not much that I just I just That's the last movie I saw in the theater and that distinction will remain for what i'm going to assume is a while So I I'm glad it was and that oh man, if I'm unless I'm mistaken Unless I'm mistaken. This will be the first
Starting point is 01:50:03 Movie featuring Idris Elba and um The fucking Yeah Jim Carrey Oh, yeah That'll be fun. He's like he represents a different era Of movies entirely. Yeah, he really does
Starting point is 01:50:28 Can we get some we we saw some some tasteful memory in that first movie can we see some like Can we just get Can we please just get a zoom in on tales his fucking face Just shocked And a little misshapen I will cry I will cry so hard I know they want like all of these movies want to pay homage to memes But I don't think they want to pay homage to memes that are shitpost comics of their property
Starting point is 01:51:05 I don't know man. I think I don't know like I think like Anything that is official and untouched it has a much better chance It's much I think it I imagine like The weird sonic underground shit Where they start like melting and becoming weird sizes and falling off the cliff That has a better chance I want to see The movie review in which somebody describes
Starting point is 01:51:37 That tales got trolled and some kid in the theater started losing their mind and had to leave the theater I want to see Knuckles call sonic some fucking name that we don't know what it means and then sonic says i'm not mad I'm going to go have sex with my girlfriend now to show you how not mad I am That's stupid I want shadow to talk about how he broke all his bones in the time prison We'll see I hope so Um
Starting point is 01:52:22 I think that's the heart you remember what I showed you wait who's playing tales Some fucking guy It's just somebody right is it is it somebody or is it somebody? I don't know okay I Want egg man to piss on the moon Uh, oh they haven't announced okay, I said No, just thinking about
Starting point is 01:52:57 Last week and like what if knuckles eats too much at olfgaard and just throws up outside the olfgaard And then sonic goes that's why they call it the never-ending pasta bowl knuckles you shouldn't Okay Oh All right all of those plus full guy richie Accent oh Yeah, sure Um
Starting point is 01:53:46 Then a couple other things Oh my god apparently And 2023 they're going to be making an alien tv show Sure, whatever just like the last one Well, that's Yeah, I put I'll totally believe it when I'm watching it. I mean they think they made a terminator show That's you know, that's some no didn't no, that was a dream. It happened
Starting point is 01:54:17 It Happened it had the the girl from from firefly Yeah, mm-hmm um, this is apparently uh as well being done uh being developed by noah holly who did the Legion tv show and uh the fargo tv show. I hear legions good and I know fargo's good Well, I mean if you want to do an alien tv show that I would like just adapt the darkshorst comics that came with those Fucking action figures and go to different planets where the xenomorph is at and then oh this one
Starting point is 01:54:59 It attacked a bunch of bowls and only flamethrowers work or this one's a bunch of scorpion freaks and they explode when they die Yada yada Well, I'll stomp that in the nuts immediately Because it takes place on earth Oh, that's so stupid The whole alien franchise is Premise one if they get to earth, it's the end of the world. That's the ending of alien fucking resurrection So they blow up like north america so that the alien doesn't land on it
Starting point is 01:55:38 He's commented on why it's set on earth Because alien stories are always trapped trapped in a prison trapped in a spaceship I thought it'd be interesting to open it up a little bit so that the stakes of what happened if you can't contain it Are now more immediate um Yeah, and then it goes on about the older The they answered the question in AVP requiem and the answer is the the government would nuke the town like it's raccoon city
Starting point is 01:56:11 That's actually the direct answer to that question um All I know is that's a reference to knight of the return of the living dead Most important of all the details about the show is Uh, it will not touch Ripley's character at all You know why right? There's a there's a long standing good reason for why they don't want to have Ripley in this So, I mean the reason given is because her story is told perfectly and he doesn't want to mess with it
Starting point is 01:56:47 All right. You want to know what the real reason is? Uh-huh Because after alien resurrection they approached security weaver about doing another alien movie And she's like okay. Give me a shit zillion fucking dollars Not wanting to do another alien movie. She intentionally picked numbers. They wouldn't pay And it's been that way for like decades That's how you save it That's how you protect it If you can't stop them from making it then you ask for stupid. I'll never do it money
Starting point is 01:57:23 I think I think right after resurrection they asked her and she's like I want 40 million dollars and this was like Fucking 97 or some shit and they were like fucking no Will you negotiate? She's like no What about I don't want to do the movie Do you think Yeah, no, even if it's your likeness and they do a big cg Like creepy thing like like disney They still have to pay you for your likeness
Starting point is 01:57:54 Even if it's from their thing So can't she protect it? I guess as long as she's around she can protect it Yeah, okay Now don't worry You know whose story isn't finished Ellen Ripley jr Now I know in aliens She totally died
Starting point is 01:58:23 But what if she had kids? clone Oh, no, no, they're not gonna do that again. That was but you do what you do it again. You did it before you do it again Do whatever the fuck you want They'd find a reason they'd find a way. Oh man. It's crazy. You know, my great grandma used to use these power loaders back in the day Weird that there's one sitting here in this old wayland utani cargo bay Now let's walk past it every two episodes so that it's Taking up the right one-third of the shot in golden ratio view
Starting point is 01:59:02 Of all these I swear to god, I fucking swear to god You're gonna see a power loader in the background. It's gonna be a relic And they're gonna be like, oh, what's this old thing? Yeah um You know, I think Of all the franchises that are like the crossover like franchises terminator robocop alien predator Um
Starting point is 01:59:26 I feel like terminator gets it the worst Because they just refuse to let it sit for more than like three years tops Terminator gets it the worst because um Terminate tour two Uh Was a perfect movie And so right off the bat you're gonna run into a problem with anything that's trying to follow up
Starting point is 01:59:53 What is a perfect movie? um and More than that is that like t2 accidentally created a formula that sucks And the formula is the new terminator must be mechanically superior to the old terminator in some way Which Immediately sucked ass but also
Starting point is 02:00:20 Like the whole series is about time travel So it has infinite shit sequel potential Yeah, you can tell infinite shit stories that never end up happening as long as the timeline corrects itself It's it's it's the perfect shit cow, you know Um But yeah, I feel like they they get that they probably get it the worst. Um Um
Starting point is 02:00:49 Anyway, we'll see what happens in two years time Sure Sure, we will Again, I'm I'm I will say I liked Fargo and I hear Legion is pretty good But uh, who the fuck knows I haven't I don't have any experience with either of those, but I hear good things Um, you call it duty announced whatever error Yeah, call it duty vanguard whatever back to world war two you got the
Starting point is 02:01:25 The dead by daylight crap on there. Uh, no Dead by daylight announced this morning that due to some rights shenanigans Demogorgon and steve and nancy will be leaving the game on November 17th Oh No Oh, you hate to see it So, um, they'll be leaving if you have the licensing you'll keep them
Starting point is 02:01:59 And you can buy them half off until that time their stage Will be leaving forever Which sucks because the level's pretty good. It's a good map. I like it Can they replace it with the semi-blogan? As you would do no Apparently not, but here's the worst part the absolute worst part So you may have remember me telling you that killers and survivors in dead by daylight Have teachable perks that you unlock as part of their progression. Oh, fuck
Starting point is 02:02:34 That become possibly meta they will be gone forever other killers Well, don't worry woolly They won't be gone forever If you own the characters you'll keep the characters and you can you know get the perks forever But if you happen to start playing dead by daylight after let's say demogorgon is gone forever Then their three basic perks will Sometimes show up in the shrine of secrets thing that you can buy perks with with your fancy level up juice
Starting point is 02:03:10 That rotates once a week So if you want, I don't know surge Which is demogorgon's one good perk and you start playing after november 17th And they'll have the perk on there obviously that week just for people who missed it You may have to wait somewhere between I don't know three months and a year for it to show up once And Hope you catch it
Starting point is 02:03:41 It's it's the it's the worst it's technically still going to be attainable in the game But that's brutal. That's like it sucks unlicensed dlc is like Is is meta annihilating Like what a horrible thing to have to deal with content that has to go away That you've like not only guest starred but implemented and balanced around So here's the worst part and I really hope that people who play dead by daylight complain a lot
Starting point is 02:04:18 There is no reason There is no reason duplicates of these perks that are like Burge or Gourge or whatever i'm using surge as an example Couldn't be created and then just slotted into the default always available perk Like selection like not the ones attached to characters just the the default one
Starting point is 02:04:46 Other than the fact that it very very strongly Incentivizes you to buy them for 50 off from now until November 17th There is a huge stink on this to me of The perks will be kind of a play you could get them But if you really want them you should buy it right now So that you just doesn't go away in time and it's on sale too. You should get it So i i'm not sure what the full deal is but
Starting point is 02:05:21 I think i'm seeing here that like rocket league also deals with a bunch of guest licensed shit that shows up in leaves constantly Yeah, but rocket. I was under the assumption that the rocket league stuff is cosmetic only because i would assume so Every every live service game has cosmetics that go away. Yeah the the actual characters game play This is like a gun in a shooter man. That's rough And like they couldn't work it out. They just couldn't come to you know What's weird is that stranger things just got a different deal
Starting point is 02:06:02 for Oh god for smite It stranger things was just in smite's battle pass Hmm in july Not to mention that other mobile game Yeah, and it's like a battle pass kind of makes more sense because that's naturally timed right like it's
Starting point is 02:06:30 But Yeah, what a stupid mess You got like I feel like you should have You can't ever like no like like licensing these days works in such a way where you'll never be able to have it like Just like a full-on Blah, what am I trying to say the days of soul caliber inclusion where it's like yeah It's in there forever and that's all there is to it and we never look at this again Those those days are gone live service things that constantly make money are going to continue to have deals that aren't that need to be updated
Starting point is 02:07:06 but Like you gotta have some contingency in place for like that or you can just not care about how it affects the meta You know you could just literally just be like yeah, but yeah, but it's legal So who cares we're not going to get into that trouble, but that that that that is that is awful I hate I hate to fucking hear it that sucks So in order to cut people off of the past because some people are saying that they've already said that there will be generic perks Let me read the direct quote from the games faq on the subject What will happen to the teachable perks the perks for steve nancy and the demo gorgon will remain available to earn on those characters
Starting point is 02:07:41 And with new versions of these teachables being made available in the shrine of secrets to all players Yes, they will be having generic perks and you'll have to get them off the goddamn roulette wheel that is the fucking store Like it is the worst way they could have possibly handled this they should just give everyone those equivalent perks by default I On ironically think that they should also have generic characters that have the abilities that you're losing They may not be able to do that I mean
Starting point is 02:08:20 You can't stop them from making two kids and a monster that do whatever they want I Don't know if they can't like I don't know what the stage would be the biggest problem Yeah, the stage because the stage is a big area of assets that are all Tied to this brand and it's a unique thing and it has the portal for sure for sure But you can totally just fucking Two kids and a monster they got the things Whatever here they are and everybody knows what they are and we just that's it
Starting point is 02:09:00 And then you keep now the old the gameplay aspect intact There is only one genuine positive to this story um And that's that the demogorgon in uh dead by daylight sucked ass So it's not it doesn't it doesn't matter as much then like that it's not it's not freddy it's not uh But if one of the major if one of the major characters was lost from the game like that'd be huge Uh, there's a couple that are in there that if they got like freddy kruger is probably the one that if it if it like
Starting point is 02:09:41 Got kicked out would be a disaster because freddy's good And it's freddy kruger, of course It's like a marquee get it's like a huge deal Now stories like this Do sometimes have a way of coming back around in the next couple weeks and getting updated and going yeah, we figured it out We pay them the money Here it's back and it's fine So I don't think I don't think that's gonna happen
Starting point is 02:10:12 Has this happened before with any other characters? The only thing that is similar to this in this space is Everything to do with the jason game Which is a separate game entirely which yeah, it's a separate game But it's just like the the nightmare that it was to get that off the ground and deal with the fact that the jason license is a fucking mess They How they what if they got like The cabin in the woods license
Starting point is 02:10:47 Which then gives them the license to do whatever the fuck they want Yeah, I guess you just you know, what if you just fucking 40 chest it a little bit You know massage that yeah, maybe but yeah, it sucks. This this this is shit It's poop I like it um Okay, we also have rumors that uh gta 3 vice city and san andreas remakes are in development Yeah, that'd be nice
Starting point is 02:11:24 I like those games a lot. I like vice city and san andreas Way more than any of the modern gta games Apparently, um They're being done in U. E. With a mixture of old and new graphics heavily modded versions of Uh the games you remember so, um
Starting point is 02:11:47 Yeah, it might actually end up being Like a different feeling version of the game like on their on their Their they can't wait newer system I can't wait to see the article That's like here's the tracks that won't be coming back to my city or san andreas Because we just talked about like monster movie licenses. Holy shit. Let's talk about 80s and 90s music But at the same time it's fucking rock star Yeah, if anybody would get a they just do it like they just fucking spend and do it
Starting point is 02:12:24 I imagine um Although yeah, like I Can't imagine it's going to be all three dropping like like simultaneously like it feels no they'd be staggered and they'd each be like $40 And then people are going to be like And gta 3 will be out for longer Separately from the other two because people are like i'm not playing 40 fucking dollars for gta 3
Starting point is 02:12:54 I won't play fucking vice city or san andreas Yeah, I mean it would be a good excuse for me to like actually if I can go through san andreas if anything because uh Uh three was the only one that I really actually like spent time with And the originals San Andreas fucking rules except for that train I Big smoke and go to fucking hell all I had to do was catch the train you fucking piece of shit Uh
Starting point is 02:13:28 Okay, and then we got one here that Is pretty fucking cool uh Garden of eyes The modder behind the dark souls 3 first person mod has now created a blood-borne first person mod Looks cool looks like kind of a nightmare to play ha ha ha But does look really cool to be able to see those environments from the first person So here's why this is so fucking impressive right one
Starting point is 02:14:03 It's a console game that that like You know, uh, uh, uh, you don't see as many mods because of the the fact that it's not on pc right to begin with but um, the fact that it's not just a first person mod, but it's actually putting in like floating hands in a um alex kind of way almost like vr controls And it has like your gun and your weapon and it has you like using them
Starting point is 02:14:31 um In a way that like you can you're not just like shitty sliding around a a camera not knowing what you're doing But your buttons are going to do like things based on muscle memory It actually has floating hands so that like if you were learning how to play or doing any of this Like you can actually kind of figure it out. Um, and the trailer shows off a lot of boss fights that worked Way better than I would have imagined Uh staring at them in first person like if you were to just tell me yeah, there's a first person mod I'd be like that'd be horrible. You couldn't play it and seeing it. It's like, oh, shit
Starting point is 02:15:04 No, like you can maneuver and get around and do most of um The the the fights like staring at the boss and keeping your eyes on them and playing in first person, but um, I imagine fights against like rom or um Fights where you get blindsided by shit behind you
Starting point is 02:15:26 Would become ridiculously like hard. Yeah You know and there's not does not most of the fights, but there's a couple Where like it would just be like hope you already knew how to fight this from regular blood born Because this is just not going to be fair in first person anybody playing this is going to know how to play regular blood born um So, uh, the garden of eyes put out a statement and say hey if you want to see a certain streamer Um stream this let me know I'd love to contact them and you know, uh, like I saw max got tagged and eventually through a
Starting point is 02:16:03 Thread I got tagged in it and I looked at it. I was like wow that looks great I can't wait to hop on my jailbroken ps4 that I don't have And load this fucker up Yeah Little bit of a prohibitive Hardware requirement And I always kind of you always kind of cross your fingers and go like Maybe there's some kind of like stick a usb stick in and then it'll just go
Starting point is 02:16:37 Maybe Well on the on the plus side if you've got a five then you're not using your four so you know You can just do that And not lose anything But um I seriously doubt my ps4 could be modded Because it's up to date ah
Starting point is 02:17:03 Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I don't know what the what the what the process involves or whether how it how it goes The process for me will involve finding somebody who played through it and skimming around to see some of the boss fights Well, um the footage of the trailer looks really cool and uh, again, I just appreciate that they went Further than sticking the camera in place and calling it a day So what's what's interesting is that uh in the description they described that one of the reasons they were able to Do this was that yes, uh from software's camera system is the same amongst every game They've made for like the past 10 15 years So they basically just took their dark souls 3 camera mod and just ported it into blood board
Starting point is 02:17:53 It worked from demon souls and then all the way forward to sekiro They had very little problems implementing it each time. So they're basically going We're gonna we're already preparing to drop it in elden ring Yeah, which I bet elden ring is gonna get modded a bunch with cool. Shit. I can imagine Um, and here's the other cool thing is uh in addition to that It's also compatible with the 60 fps patch Yeah, which
Starting point is 02:18:29 Would be nice if that patch that a individual made could Somehow be made by the developer and put into the game Would be nice, but in the meantime here we are Uh, so you could combine the two if they fucking patched it I mean honestly like the framerate update plus first person is a unique ass re-experience of the game that like Would be worth doing for sure
Starting point is 02:19:01 um But yep, yep, you got to get you got to get a modded console to get it going I guess I mean look man with enough hard work and dedication and fucking just absolute degeneracy They were able to get like project m To a state where it was like yeah, just put in a memory card on your game on your game cube And then you're good to go you soft mod. That's true. You know, so that's true Things do happen when enough people degen together That was true
Starting point is 02:19:36 Um Pardon me. Let's take some letters Hey, do you want to send in a letter or send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com? That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com. That's not a real letter. That's an electronic mail If you want to write in and tell us about um the power of group degeneration That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com What we got Uh
Starting point is 02:20:14 First one comes to us from Dr. Wolfe says Hey mad and boy So recently I got into a big argument with some dumb mind goblins My friend has as he wanted to get into monster hunter world and iceborn It was on stale on seam. He picked it up. Right. I'm a big fan Ever since I was a kid, so I tried to help him get in
Starting point is 02:20:39 But the problem is that iceborn comes with quality of life features that kind of ruined my friend's experience Getting into the game for the first time um In order to get to the iceborn content asap dlc has a super op set of gear That's available from the very start helps you beat the base game faster My friend playing the game for the first time sees it in his box and goes well It's the best gear by a lot. So I guess I should use it. I tried to warn him What it was for and that he was essentially removing the entire hunting crafting loop, which is the big appeal of the game
Starting point is 02:21:10 Um, he gets this but he says it makes the most sense for him to use the best gear available to him So as such he played for a little while killed some early monsters really really easily got bored and dropped it before he even reached two star hunts I think if he had played world without the iceborn to start he might have gotten into it So Ever play something where the quality of life actively ruins it for someone, you know I turn off almost every pre-order weapon I can and if I can't turn it off. I literally throw most of them away pre-order consumables and and and uh things like that it's it's
Starting point is 02:21:51 It's something that like yeah, there's a there's a more there's a couple times where you just like I don't even know going in to whatever the thing is that it's like Oh, that's an extra based on the version of the game you got or whatever like yeah um Yeah, that's that's I think Like that stuff is always going to be there because it's it's it's a you know, it's a pre-order incentive or whatever It's a it's a business model that has become very common
Starting point is 02:22:17 I think what the games should do is just have a very clear message The first time you you you know Unlock all of that shit like and I know how um um For example indeed in demon souls. They're just sitting in your box, but in like yakuza. You got to go talk to Uh bob to uh to get them You know So you should just have something in place where it's like the moment you go to get any of that pre-order stuff
Starting point is 02:22:43 Or whatever it is you warn the player that hey, this is meant to Catch up experienced players. It's not meant for your first time experience. You know Yeah, and that was specifically because iceborn was A dlc thing so like the intended path was to play monster hunter world and then Beat monster hunter world and then go buy iceborn Now right But yeah, like if they're both on sales, it's not going to work like that. It was short-sighted. I think the worst one Ever because I played a lot of games that have this problem. Well mmo's do this all the time, don't they?
Starting point is 02:23:21 No, what are you talking about? I guess I'm what I'm reminded of is um New new mmo thing comes out and then there's a potion to just Zip you up to whatever level. Yeah, that's that's war the warcraft. Okay. Is that the only thing that does that? Pretty much destiny didn't buying the buying the deluxe thing. Oh destiny destiny had something like this that you guys are telling me about But destiny does it for one character and crazy people always have three characters anyway Okay, well, I'm just just going off of what I've heard over the years about like catching back up to the new content Uh people are mentioning ff 14 ff 14 does not give you a job boost potion when you buy the goddamn expansion Like it's an it's an optional thing like we're talking about something that came with the game
Starting point is 02:24:13 Like the defender armor in in monster hunter ice board literally sits in your inventory when you start the game if you own ice board Um The worst one that I can think of ever is dead space two Dead space two When it got ported to pc They had all this dlc shit That you could buy all this like cheat dlc items on the console And when they ported it to pc they didn't want to do that
Starting point is 02:24:46 So what they did was they just dumped every single one into the store and I think most of them are free So you start the game and you go to the shop for the very first The very first like time to upgrade your gun And like all this cheat armor is in there and like all the best weapons in the game are in there And it's The problem isn't even that it's like massive cheat shit The problem is that it makes it difficult to find what the real weapons are Yeah, and and like
Starting point is 02:25:26 What it also would just feel bad It almost it also just feels bad if like there's a variety of Like not just the strongest armor, but like a variety of strong cool armors and things where you're like I guess I'll just have to Not want to come back to this one and use it at some point You know if you're particularly attached to it or whatever the case is if the game is not uh, um Explore like explicitly warning you about it. You know, um
Starting point is 02:25:55 Like for example, uh But let me phrase that a different way you get armor and shit like that. That's like, hey, don't wear this You know, it's it's meant for speeding through the game. Um, but if you get like 100 consumables It's like so should I just not use these because I'm gonna be using consumables So you yeah monster hunter. What the fuck am I supposed to do? Like hey, here's some free potions or whatever Because the game sold x amount of copies you can't not you're gonna use those normally So you might as well just use them as well. It's not that big of a deal. Yeah, you know, so Yeah, that's that's apparently that defender set was added to monster hunter world before iceborn to get people up to date on
Starting point is 02:26:37 Iceborn if they were excited about iceborn. So if you play monster hunter world right now Brand new brand new fucking file. There's fucking cheat armor just sitting in it Wow, that is stupid. That's ruinous. That's ruinous. That is Oh man Yeah, the the games that do that it's infuriating I the worst for me is when it's like Uh, I'll pre-order it because it comes with like a soundtrack or some other, you know Or like a different skin for something. I'm like, okay, sure. I'll pre-order it. But then it also comes with like Free level up points for the early game that you can't not use
Starting point is 02:27:23 Okay, how exactly because now my compliance brain is thinking a little bit How exactly is iceboard implemented into gameplay? Is it literally a new menu that you select and then go into a new Like no once you install iceborn a guy gets an exclamation point above his head and goes Hey, man. Shit's going crazy in the ice place. Okay. Do you want to go to the ice place? Okay, because You could do that the way um Some other games do by like literally like gating it off in a way where it's like load your file up
Starting point is 02:28:06 Do you want to make you want to set it? To iceborn, okay. Well then come on. That doesn't make sense for monster hunter because like It's it's literally just like the next step in the major story quest and it's all together And once iSports integrated it's just like this is the first half of the game Yeah, second half of the game. Well, there's got to be a better way than fucking that though Yeah, don't put it. Don't put those items in the game at all So that's the better way so just too bad Well, it is it is an expansion
Starting point is 02:28:40 Like I think to the game. It's not its own thing No, but like like I said before the items were added to world Not iceborn, right? So if you're playing just world and don't want to go to iceborn that shit is still in there No, but I guess what i'm saying is because like I wasn't sure but you're explaining that it's like yeah iceborn is It's expanded world content then it's fair to basically tell people no you have to earn this you have to get here That's that's like that's totally fair to do um
Starting point is 02:29:16 I think the demon souls remake did it decently Where the new dlc weapons that you get is the pre or i forget what it was But they're they're decent some of them are good, but you can't upgrade them Oh Ah, okay, so they're like they're like decent for like an hour But balance wise you can't rely on this in the long run. Yeah, you will absolutely need to trade them out for something
Starting point is 02:29:46 That's pretty good. That's a decent time. You get to like two one or two two or something like that. Okay. Okay But I mean at that point is that really solving the Intended goal of fast-forwarding the entire game. Well, that's not the intended goal the intended goal was Uh for demon souls probably to smooth over that game's notoriously vicious First hour with a pre-order bonus. Yeah. Hey you want a pre order what capcom wants is for you to fast forward world Yeah, so you have a reason to buy iceborn. Do you want to buy iceborn? Let's buy iceborn Hmm
Starting point is 02:30:24 Yo iceborn's coming You should buy iceborn. Oh, but i'm not up there. I didn't get that far. Don't worry. Don't worry. You you'll get that far real fast Uh, all right Got one coming in Uh, hello Uh, yeah coming in from flashy amoeba high fighting game cop woolly and secretary of absolute dog pat A while ago. I was watching a friend play uh play Bethesda's 2017 prey how apropos That is extraordinarily apropos
Starting point is 02:31:04 In one of the starting areas after taking damage from the mimic enemies She ran over to one of the water fountains and activated the fountain restoring one hp She then began alternating between water fountains to restore hp bit by bit The water fountains could only be activated about once every 10 to 15 seconds Presumably to stop this kind of exploit. I thought it was a little tedious But accepted that my friend's ocd wanted to take the slow but unlimited method of restoring hp rather than using consumable items They had She commented this was an example of bad design because it was not fun
Starting point is 02:31:40 For her and I was taken aback seeing as this is a more personal influenced Uh issue than uh bad design as it was clearly not the intended method by the devs She countered that the human brain would prioritize Efficiency over fun and the developers should have foreseen this and not had the water fountain to restore any health The conversation more or less ended there, but what's your opinion? Is it the responsibility of the devs or not? I think what's really interesting about this is I've been complaining about dishonored for like five days Um because I'm playing pray and pray does not tell me that I'm playing the game wrong
Starting point is 02:32:16 It's something that I very much Can't stand About the dishonored series and I've been talking about it all week about how basically my issue with dishonored is that they give you uh eight out of Oh god, no 10 out of like 13 of your buttons kill people and every time you kill somebody the game goes No, no, no bad. Don't you don't bad killing? Bad do wrong
Starting point is 02:32:41 right And I've been talking about that a lot, uh, but the the core of it is that Uh player psychology is more complex than just all people do whatever It's like if you tell people things work a certain way They'll tend towards a certain way and I believe it's a quote from sid mire I want to say that players will optimize all the fun out of a game if you let them And it's it's a Danger whenever you make an effect in a game
Starting point is 02:33:15 That well, what happens if people take this to its lot quote unquote logical conclusion So I'm pretty sure if you go back to a 2017 stream You can find footage of me ping-ponging between two water fountains Because I only had six health down from a hundred and Instead of eating a banana, which would have healed that in one second I could have kept the banana and then ping-pong between these two, uh water fountains for a minute and a half now um
Starting point is 02:33:48 Now completely divorced from Whether or not you would perform this action In a circumstance when you needed it. Are you pro or anti goblins in this scenario? I I don't think I think that Uh having a water fountain lock itself down for it's like 15 seconds to give you a single health point The only outcome of that is you going either i'm not going to use that that sucks Right it only gives one health and i'm not going to waste my time or people wasting their time on it exactly And both of those suck ass. Exactly both of those are worse than having it do nothing
Starting point is 02:34:36 So this is where you have to look at things and go Yes, the average person will look at this and they will look at the tediousness of it And they will accept the trivial reward and move on But and then never do it again But you cannot assume this will be the universal experience Nor should you you must assume that the little trivial thing that you're rewarding them with Will be maximized and min maxed and exploited to the point of compromising fun And you have to stop the player from from allowing themselves to do that
Starting point is 02:35:15 In Returnal, um you can go back to your ship and sleep To get a little oh, yeah That was like a uh people figured that out And it it it became like hyper optimal to do that I and it's the shittiest way to play the game ever after clearing the map multiple layers in and scraping it of all heels I realized oh shit this run is in danger The only thing I can do right now is go back to the fucking ship and sleep
Starting point is 02:35:48 And if you have enough clearance on the on the Area one area two area three and you go far enough You can actually backtrack for like the 10 minutes or whatever it takes you to get back to your ship and go take a nap um You can then Fuck up and then have to do it more than once and it turns the game into a really annoying thing where You could keep this run going if you fucked up do it But how
Starting point is 02:36:16 Annoyed are you and your annoyance should not be the determining factor? So they patched it's it's extra bad because runs are so long Yeah, that like you're 90 minutes 100 minutes in And you're like I I could maybe do it if I got a full heal. I can save this whole run If I just run back So they patched it and now it only works once And That's the answer
Starting point is 02:36:46 Because Leaving it up to I would this is optimal, but it's just annoying to be optimal Is absolutely a mistake and a bad thing to do when you're designing a game Make it so that you take the choice away so that the person half doesn't have to choose between like frustrated like the the the frustrating path Yeah, and so like with many games this wouldn't be an option if you're playing Assassin's Creed
Starting point is 02:37:14 Or if you're playing a first person shooter that's like doom or whatever This would be trivial. You you you look at it. You click on it. Ha ha one health. Ha ha and you go on your merry way Pray specifically as an immersive sim. You have a fucking inventory with a grid filled to bits with health items and armor pickups and Rare ammunition and stuff like that. The game's design is explicitly scroungy There's even a function in the game where you can throw recycling charges at the environment And it will turn all of the the physics items Into materials that you can bring to a crafting station
Starting point is 02:37:54 Right like it wants you to pick shit up. It wants you to Optimize your use of materials So in that context giving somebody a completely free terrible heal Let's them take their healing items and turn those into crafting materials. So there's an absolute benefit Yeah, there's no downside other than the fact that it sucks ass Um, how is the healing in general and how is the checkpointing? In terms of like pointings good the checkpointing is good and healing in the game is if you eat like a banana or like a
Starting point is 02:38:32 Ramen soup or some little piece of shit health item that you find it'll heal you five Immediately and then it'll heal you like another five over like 15 seconds Okay, uh and health kits like heal you like 30 or 40 points like like a snap of the finger instantaneously, and it's just like There's no benefit to anything By having this heal you at all Like the best case scenario is somebody goes i'm not going to waste my time with that and never does it again At which point why would you what is the point of that? Yeah?
Starting point is 02:39:09 No, it's just like if you if you if your whole point is this thing is uh is a Refreshing small trivial heal, but you know it it'll if you come across it and you get lucky Then you'll you'll be happy you're there then have it do it once You know that that that's you have to limit that kind of thing You have to absolutely account for The the goblins you have to build around goblins and make it so that goblins are not the best way to go about this And goblins will find a way to exist anyway
Starting point is 02:39:43 They'll they'll find they'll exist in other things, but the min maxing process if you can take Uh the frustrating route out of people's hands out of people's hands, so they don't even have to go down this road of like Hating the fact that they're doing it because this is the way that makes the most sense Because that just comes down to like how much do you care and people care about? You know that type of thing more than others min will spend weeks To months Doing the same thing over and over again To optimize
Starting point is 02:40:16 In order to make sure that he plays as smoothly as possible. He doesn't give a fuck. He has infinite patients for that He kind of likes it That's not everybody actually i'm actually Um diving into To This this is a deeper problem Than i originally anticipated
Starting point is 02:40:42 That i did not understand because i'm not that far into prey and on a whim I just typed in the phrase water pray into the game To discover that water fountains in that game have a secondary function There is a side quest you can complete that has the water regenerate your mp So the water fountains are supposed to be initially useless but usable And then later they will regen your psychic energy at a significant rate Which turns them from a useless function into an overpowered function So then you are absolutely
Starting point is 02:41:29 Incentivized strongly to do this dumb shit So the the intended design must be you see a water fountain go over to it Realizes it heals you one. Oh, that's not worth it But you know that you can use water sources as an item or a benefit Then later you unlock the sigh regeneration And you get told to go use it and it regends your sigh bar and you go. Oh cool now all those Water fountains that i've been seeing and knew were there because i used them to heal myself one hp when i passed by them And it's like yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 02:42:11 Game game game design is really interesting man. It really is apparently that upgrade is like insanely broken Like Apparently it is it it regenerates the shit like super hard and makes your sigh powers like infinite Yeah, the um, no just As a whole the balance of incentive is is a fucking complex Thing and like if there's a fulcrum point that you have to balance it on that you have to approach where it's like you know the the player's willingness to struggle and um
Starting point is 02:42:50 The the average level of like ah, fuck it. I'll just keep beating my head against this until I get good enough to Get passed whatever is in my way or You describing Um, the inability to play certain genres where like if your decisions are Suboptimal You you you turn into a fucking goop pile And melt off the chair. I discovered that out of a bar of 100 default
Starting point is 02:43:19 Drinking water in pray will give you 50 points of sigh energy So two of those sips will put you to full and those sources are everywhere. So you need them. Yeah, yeah, but it's like I don't Or don't see Why you needed to give it a health point you people know what a water faucet looks like Like people Now now this kind of thing I always find really interesting when people get creative with their solutions because
Starting point is 02:43:55 It shows that you're thinking about all these aspects of the game um If a game decides to put limited enemies in an rpg It means that it doesn't want you to over level It means that it wants you to be stuck at a certain place by the time you get to Whatever boss because you are literally Unable to go find more experience anywhere in the game, right? But knowing that some people like that and knowing that some people would want to
Starting point is 02:44:25 Uh level up or do whatever in in a game like the last story You have the literal enemy boss fountain room that spits out grunts to fight Before you go into a boss fight Just for that purpose It's funny because there's the two extremes of this and I think prey is probably on one extreme because I described earlier I went off the beaten path and found a plan that lets you make level ups Like straight up make level ups and the immersive sim genre is always about like Breaking that shit like oh, I stealthed in the back in the day of sex and killed that lady with the hanging
Starting point is 02:45:08 Potted plant and never had to do the chinatown level you know shit like that And the opposite the game that goes the hardest in terms of no, you're gonna fucking level up when I tell you is lost odyssey Where uh the xp thresholds for level ups are at extremes So like Every level up to level 10 is like 100 xp, but the trip from level 10 to 11 is like 20,000 And then in the next area after you beat the boss all the enemies start giving you 5000 xp, so you immediately hit the new level cap
Starting point is 02:45:47 And then the next jump is 100,000 I I tried to grind in lost odyssey and discovered that it you get punched does not want you to you get punished This is the level you're gonna fucking be when you fight the boss one door later They're gonna give you all in more than enough and you'll be happy with it But stop stop and fucking plan and move forward um I I That that version of like just accounting for grinding with the the last story boss fountain thing is like
Starting point is 02:46:19 I you know I bring that up because it's just like I it's Inelegant, but it basically Addresses people who are like I know you want to run back through the area We'll you don't have to You know it's not a pretty solution, but it solves that problem and goes here Don't make the game less fun for you. Stand outside this room fight these grunts until you're done and then walk inside, you know
Starting point is 02:46:47 um, anyway, yeah, that's a really interesting question and um, there is the and the definitive answer at least uh, Looking here between someone who even like I don't have the fucking Uh compulsion that you do with these things, but even you having that compulsion Can see that it would be better if you were handcuffed from having to do it Oh, yeah Well for me the the the where it breaks. It's like I'm willing to admit when my own Uh compulsion is what's causing me to do something in a more hyper efficient way But the breaking point for me is that when I look at the
Starting point is 02:47:24 Fantasy scenario in which that compulsion didn't exist and does the situation still kind of suck or be pointless Then what the fuck is the point of it being there at all? Right? Um Like if the optimal if the if the intended path is for you to go, uh, whatever this sucks How can that possibly be a good thing? All right, uh, here's one coming in From danny says hey will a unit one and pat unit two Dad here uh from the place with the accent nobody pronounces right scotland. How you doing?
Starting point is 02:48:04 Uh Just a quick question been a listener and a watcher for a while and I noticed for uh the last uh few episodes There's no outro music anymore and I've been introduced to a lot of good music through that So I've been a bit sad about not hearing it anymore. Just wondering what's up with that Yeah, no problem. So quick and easy answer on this question What happened to the podcast outro music? I'll tell you I got a nice little warning email coming from Fucking 10 years ago or so that is a
Starting point is 02:48:39 Warning about DMCA And basically being told that hey, yeah, no don't don't fuck with this music and it was a Preemptive, you know, it was a little bit of a Just a heads up We're scanning everything everywhere all across the internet and podcasts have for a while been
Starting point is 02:49:06 Pretty there's no like youtube scanning function in terms of like um instant recognition of um Content idea or whatever and it's not they don't have the twitch thing running, but They do have crawlers that are out there that will take Years, but they will eventually catch up Um, so I saw that and I went all right That's that no more music So that's what happened
Starting point is 02:49:38 Sorry for the lack of fun, but This is how this is how we play it safe That Sucks yeah for the most part um video game music has always tended to be fine um, but you know every once in a while there was some funky crossovers or you know like Triple q beats and and shit like that that would you know sound a little too much like one thing or another and then they just didn't like it So I'm just like look. I'm not gonna fucking take the risk. It's it's fun to have but it's not an essential thing so uh
Starting point is 02:50:12 Yeah And Last one will take Uh From frog Mountain says hey woolly and pat recently I was thinking about sword and shield and how they're the first pokemon games to show First pokemon games that allow you to um Not hold on a second
Starting point is 02:50:36 Sword and shield are the first pokemon games to allow you to change the audio settings While it's already strange that it took them this long to add such a common system setting What's even stranger is that it treats it like it's not a basic function But a feature that needs to be unlocked when you start the game for the first time the options menu doesn't include sound settings To unlock them you have to obtain a key item from an npc And that npc takes a few hours to get to because he's in the third gym leaders town He's not visually distinct. What are we talking? From any other random npc any uh literally just the volume levels
Starting point is 02:51:14 Um, he's not distinct from any other npc standing uh in town He's in a random alley if you never talk to him. He's over easily overlooked You can go the entire game without being able to change how loud the music and sound effects are No getting the adding from him does not set a permanent flag in the sound settings in the options menu So if you start a new save you lose access to your sound settings and you have to talk to him again Can you think of any other game that has this level of bizarre restriction to a basic function? That is incredibly stupid. That is game free has done this with other features You have to earn the right to change your volume
Starting point is 02:51:54 Like what is the perp? What do you think people change the volume for like do you think it's like always just a Just just for fun Like it's not a matter of like enjoying the experience more because one thing is too loud or under circumstance where you want to hear You know, this is the kind of I'm going to talk out my ass for a second, but this reminds me of when new vegas mods add new functions Then they put like a controller item in your inventory instead of being able to bake it into the game's menu system and i'm like
Starting point is 02:52:29 Do they not know how to just Make a sound option Do they just literally not know how I think it's as simple as they just didn't care about it Excuse me. It was just an unimportant feature and When they eventually did it was like, oh, well, yeah, it'll be a bonus in game just
Starting point is 02:52:58 I'm seeing people Saying that black and white had an easy mode. You could only unlock by beating the game Give me two seconds to look that up Oh, yeah, that is fucking choice That is brilliant 200 IQ Congratulations, you've now unlocked easy mode Well, the key system is a feature of the yunova link in black a two and white two
Starting point is 02:53:42 It allows players to change the difficulty level of the game and switch between black city and white forest Change the mystery door. They can be shared between players But players can only share the keys that are exclusive to their version For the first time there are different difficulty levels easy normal and challenge mode Only normal mode is unlocked by default Easy and challenge mode must be unlocked through the course of the game Because they are unlocked only after defeating the champion The player must start a new game in order to play the main storyline with a different difficulty
Starting point is 02:54:20 You need both versions No, no, you can trade them to people so you can trade your Key Oh my god, this is an actual mess To unlock oh my god to unlock easy mode in black two or challenge mode in white two The respective keys for each version needs to be given to the player with the opposite version. You need both So if you want to play Hard mode in white
Starting point is 02:54:56 You need to have a friend that beat black and if you want to play easy mode in black You need a friend that beat normal in white Yeah, this is the dumbest this is number one stupidest thing i ever did see this is the dumbest i have ever heard There is literally nothing on this level Congratulations game freak you fucking you have blown out the entire history of video games with the dumbest feature I have ever heard in my entire life. That's you're the king. You are the champion. I bow down That is the most obtuse and ridiculously stupid way of unlocking difficulties
Starting point is 02:55:39 Like what do you think people do with difficulties? Why do you think they do they like? Like you know what i mean like when you beat a game and it goes hey, you think that's really uh Tough you should try hard mode now that you know how to play and the person's like yeah, I had fun I'm down for a more challenge. Why not? But when someone goes to easy mode, it's like because they're having a hard time And they want to switch to an easier version like what do you think people want these features for? That's incredible. Absolutely baffling. That's the number one number one Okay, well
Starting point is 02:56:20 Like I was going to say I was gonna bring up that like to answer the person's question I feel the only similar thing That baffles me in in in That regard is any game with a cold open Fuck cold opens in all video games. It's not cool. It's not interesting It's not a and it's not a way of being immersive It's just annoying because different games have different settings and functions and on different computers That you need to verify ahead of time
Starting point is 02:56:53 Sometimes you need to verify your controller your keyboard buttons whatever the fuck There's things you have to test out and configure before you start playing a game A cold open is when you boot the game up and it's just spits you into gameplay first Then you have to get to your title screen. I hate that. Hey woolly Ask me what my favorite cold open video game is. What's your favorite cold open video game? Horizon zero dawn on steam kicks you into the fucking intro Which is like 20 minutes long before you can choose your video settings So it fucking defaults every new player to like 480p full screen and the game looks like fucking garbage
Starting point is 02:57:32 If I'm not mistaken Ftl does this doesn't ftl spit you Into a cold open as well because I remember booting it up right into gameplay and have and having like resolution issues um Don't fucking do this guys like actually Give people the option to change settings before you do it if you want to it's give them do at the very minimum At bare minimum pull a sushi ma or or so and go all right
Starting point is 02:58:07 Here's some settings answer these questions. Oh, I don't mind that at all and then we'll immerse you into our cold open But I can't stand Or even pc games that like uh you you go to click launch and it goes Do you want to open the launcher or the settings and you can click on settings? And then you have that you know gray box like I want this resolution I want this this this and you might have to change that later, but at least you don't get a situation where um Like there's a hdmi thing Uh with my tv and your tv that certain games in full screen at 120 will not display sound
Starting point is 02:58:45 Because there's something to do with the hdmi handshake, so it only works to refresh or you have to put it to 60 Whatever yeah, but sometimes I'll load up a game and it doesn't let me change anything And then it's playing an intro and it's like there's no fucking sound for this guys Like I need to change my hdmi setting thing something um again like if you're playing any game that uses like Any sort of controller that you're you're trying to configure or you need to set up in advance or even like oh the default controls I actually want them to be something else entirely. Fuck you Do this and then change get you do this tutorial like it's so so just
Starting point is 02:59:24 It's counter-intuitive. It sucks and I don't do it the man like what you're trying to do is create a first impression of immersion and like a really like Engrossing feeling of like the game has begun whether you're ready or not And all you do is have a sense of I hate all of this until I get to the title screen. This is annoying me Oh, I also have another one um pc game specifically Please do not fucking Auto calibrate hdr on boot
Starting point is 03:00:01 So that my fucking shit can freak out because i'm trying to set it up in obs, please Can can you just let me choose that to turn on when I feel like turning it on please? Cinematic experience Movie like quality Yeah, I'm I'm literally setting the fucking thing up to work and mass effect three It's fucking going crazy because I'm all tabbing out of it to fucking set up a window And I didn't realize it was in fucking hdr when it turned on and it's fucking. Oh my god But did it feel like a film though? Did it feel like a film?
Starting point is 03:00:42 Hate it anyway Don't hide the subtitle option Oh god Like there's stuff like this where you I've always hated it But like you feel it more hate it have more every day You feel it more when when you have to configure shit You know uh for for this this job. Yes, exactly. It it definitely is yeah All right
Starting point is 03:01:12 But no that yeah that pokemon shit takes the absolute cake that is that is Above and beyond anything I could ever fathom Holy shit black and white I keep hearing about how great those games are too like so many people are like yeah pokemon black and white We're the last great pokemon games totally love them. They're super good and it's like I I sure probably but I can't believe that system Of difficulty fucking selection. Jesus christ. What the hell? Why would you do that?
Starting point is 03:01:46 Defies belief like I like I want to talk to someone And I want to ask them what the the plan was Oh, I know what it is. I know exactly what it is Because we have the incompetent version which is everyone there is insane That's not particularly satisfying. No, and then there's the somebody was like, oh, hey, let's make an easy mode and a hard mode for pokemon That's a cool idea. And then they started working on it And their boss told them To make it a a system exclusive thing
Starting point is 03:02:25 So that they could sell more of the double copies are yet just What do we just put more reasons to have trading be a thing? Create reasons for trading. They said well the hard mode has to go in black and the easy mode has to go in white So it's easier On white mode it is But you don't have to beat the game to unlock it So hold on if you're playing white and you beat the game You then unlock
Starting point is 03:03:03 Hard No, yeah, you unlock you have your item that you can give to black Yeah, black can then become easy Only when white hand trades the item over That's correct And black can oh no

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