Castle Super Beast - CSB 155: Boo Hoo I'm Immortal

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 music so what's what's the deal with orbs and how come I got a ponder him yeah but like what's up with it you're looking awfully dark and foreboding this week yeah yeah Elton ring sent me a cloak I was gonna say you should be pondering rings maybe not orbs yeah but the orb meme is so much more prevalent and also I got a orb but I don't know how to get the orb out of the cloak to ponder it while wearing the cloak um yeah what does it say on the chest there is it literally say it says it says cloak apparently this is a markiplier product
Starting point is 00:01:30 oh people were telling me but is paired up with the Elton ring so a bunch of people got candy chocolate but yeah and some of those people got chocolate that got like horribly fuck melted in transit which is kind of funny in its own right I got a cloak instead probably cuz I'm in Canada right when they were afraid that the chocolate would get caught in like you know the border thing where they look at it oh cloaks are always handy anyway yeah I felt like an idiot putting this on for the first time because I kept looking where the arms were but there's no arms well that was my question is that right now you
Starting point is 00:02:13 could just be rocking a hoodie but it's not oh it's a cloak no it is not a hoodie it is it is a it is two triangles one big triangle and one smaller triangle it is it is in fact a cloak which then implies a strange sense of nakedness whenever underneath the cloak is exposed yeah you don't know what's down here that's that's the problem well anyway that would be a power move anyway it's doing the whole podcast naked that's you can't tell you know what mp3 listeners are blessed so that's fine it's full disclosure I might be up and out more than once during this podcast because I am in the midst of feeling not
Starting point is 00:03:01 so good in the lower intestinal area so what you eat it's I don't know if it's what I ate but yeah I don't know I think it's for me it's it's chilly yeah no I don't think it's that it's might might be some other stuff I need to investigate but either way we're not doing too hot and we're doing good enough that I was like let's just let's podcast today like I can I can don't worry I'll handle the coven well you're cooking in your oven and what that's that I tried I should have tried anyway that's all right okay so let's let's get to podcast and we certainly have a week to cover nothing happened this week well nothing I'd like
Starting point is 00:03:49 to I suppose start out with the the the conditioned warning that I've now developed as a result of this job but if you are someone out there who you know likes what we do and is a fan but whenever you hear the words fighting games come out of my mouth you resident sleeper time this is one of those weeks where we're gonna talk about fighting games a bunch because some stuff happens don't worry guys I got you on this one you know there's just a diverse group of people some people like everything some people like some things some of those no don't you know so don't worry I got those people today
Starting point is 00:04:33 just I'm giving them the heads up I'm giving them the heads up that the thing that I like is is gonna be talked about today so and not the thing you like maybe hopefully though anyway not you the proverbial you yeah no the royal you yeah but first be careful she can move in every direction and not not with COVID no it's wild man I saw a tweet that was explaining like Omicron might be the most virulent disease ever considering the queen was able to catch it despite the fact that she's been dead for six months yeah you know the necromancy like I mean it's not quite what it used to be you know I I think my
Starting point is 00:05:23 favorite conspiracy theory I've ever encountered is the current one about the Queen of England because like it's it's not implausible that the character who caught the COVID and appeared at the recent event is in fact one of the Queen's old lady doubles and they're still trying to hide the fact that that old broad is dead I mean like if there ever was anything closely resembling a Palpatine like figure on this planet it would be the Queen and her her her retinue her her yeah I suppose wait what does that word mean retinue a retinue is the gang of attendance and staff that would accompany a royal or otherwise
Starting point is 00:06:12 princely your you know figure got it okay so like in Game of Thrones when some dipshit would show up and like I'm here to do the tournament and they'd have all their fucking hangers on and all that bullshit that's the retinue good good good well anyway yeah I guess before all the all the the stuff going on though let's let's talk about the weeks let's see what's what's up what kind of week did you so I have a question for everyone and the question is do you really really want to taste it I am of course referring to the the spectacular dance number at the start of the new TV show Peacemaker starring the John Cena okay
Starting point is 00:07:10 see I don't there's not many things I want to taste so that's a good but I've heard of and seen clips from Peacemaker and it seems to be like really funny and John Cena is apparently at his best playing a complete moron yeah and I think perhaps I would have figured this out if I saw the Suicide Squad reboot movie they did with the James Gunn but I didn't watch it but I heard you know what that's that's fine that you didn't see that they they recap that like like no problem it was fun anyway though I still want to see it you know the the new Suicide Squad but the new movie that they put out was a dramatic
Starting point is 00:07:59 improvement over the first movie that they put out yep and like it's the same fucking cast in a lot of cases and you're like wow writer-director it has all the power of the world it's the difference between James Gunn and whoever they fucking did the first one yeah so Peacemaker is stellar me and Paige blew through the entire thing yesterday which is wild because Paige doesn't binge things the way that you know you or I do but she was like oh no I want more and they just in season it is yeah they did it's it's really really excellent like it is it is as the James Gunn funny that you would expect but DC
Starting point is 00:08:51 let him get away with a lot more than I'm gonna guess Marvel gets let's get away for so like I saw one bit I saw one bit and this is all I know about the shelf but it's one bit with him talking to like I guess his like you know his side kick or whatever and yeah they go off on this whole Louis C cave it and oh yeah like this is fucking great I I I did not expect like in the first episode to get a full head-to-toe side profile of John Cena having sex with some broad screaming freedom at the top of his lungs wow wow like they they don't do it it's it's the whole HBO trifecta of swearing violence and mandatory boobs so is it basically
Starting point is 00:09:44 like he played the role of like of the of the super idiot on the team and then it went over so well that they said fuck it give him a show I wouldn't call it super idiot it's not as clear in the original film that he is like an absolute moron it be what when he's given when he's given like 15 minutes in a scene to just talk shit it becomes way way more obvious that he's like an idiot okay and I have to say maybe this is a personal thing but I felt very it's a bit cliched but I felt very heard I felt very seen watching this show as somebody who has complained about comic books my whole life you get a scene where people
Starting point is 00:10:43 are screaming about how Batman sucks ass because he won't murder people and you get a scene in which they're discussing dude I read on Facebook that Superman loves to eat poop yeah okay and I'm and I'm sitting there and my eyes are bordering on bulging out of my fucking head because I feel like I wrote it yeah so it between that it's I feel like I've seen that and other stuff recently that sort of indicate that DC's willing to just like take the piss out of their own you know oh yeah sentences and like have their villains just shit all over their heroes and be a reverence about it so I'll use an example because there's a
Starting point is 00:11:27 lot you know there's a lot of very self-deprecating like comic humor in there but the one that stands out to me extraordinarily strong is they're complaining the grunts are complaining that they got teamed up with peacemaker because he's a moron and they start listing off fucking losers in the DC universe that they would have rather been paired up with and the list just going the end of the list is I would rather have been fucking paired up with bat mites and the the thing is it that bat mites fucking z-minus the the the way the reason that works is that peacemaker doesn't know who bat mites
Starting point is 00:12:17 is and then they have to explain to the camera that bat mites is a two foot tall interdimensional being that quote-unquote stands Batman and like comic books are fucking stupid mm-hmm they're fucking so stupid they're so silly and it's nice to see a bunch of people sitting around like normal people sitting around going god damn it this shit is so fucking stupid yeah because it's silly it's is in the fact well the thing is is that it's like comic book characters are the closest thing to the ancient tradition of like the oral hero passed down you know different people and different families and tribes and such because
Starting point is 00:13:15 every like the best writers greatest ideas and the worst writers most terrible ideas are all simultaneously shared and canonical in the lifetime yeah it's great you know including it's all retcons and undos you know it's also really the cast is really great they got Robert Kirkpatrick in to play peacemakers dad and I don't know anything about peacemaker at all in the comics I've never heard of him but Robert Kirkpatrick if you're not familiar with him he was the Terminator and Terminator 2 he was the the liquid man yeah that man's whole acting career has been that he looks scary as shit yeah he continues
Starting point is 00:13:59 to look fucking scary as shit good good job dude yeah terrifying one thousand face and they took a bunch of the actors from the last Suicide Squad movie like a bunch of the the I mean Robert Patrick there's no Kirk okay Robert Patrick you're thinking you're mixing up Chris Kirkpatrick from it's too many yeah it's too many yeah they took a bunch of the like bordering on extras from the last film and made them the the stars of the TV show which was nice little piece of continuity but yeah no it's it's really great it's genuinely funny it's a lot more this is gonna sound really like wankery but it's a lot more emotional than
Starting point is 00:14:45 I would have expected vigilante is I don't know is vigilante an existing character in DC I genuinely don't know man I will look over at my TV screen as somebody who says yeah yes he is I can I can give you the dirt on like fucking maybe defenders and like blue beetle every once in a while but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the one for the a lot of the vigilante is my favorite character and I was explaining to like page like oh really like I explained to her well do you remember many years ago we did a Punisher LP mm-hmm and one of the questions I asked was what happens to Frank when there's no more real crime mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:15:38 does he just start blowing away jaywalkers mm-hmm and the answer is here's vigilante okay here's here's the character that will throw drug dealers and murderers and graffiti artists into the same pile okay and I love this dude I love him great what a great show you should really watch it there's a 10 episodes one season it is eight episodes okay yeah I just like more more than anything more than anything the overwhelming feeling I got was like yes this is a comic book show about comic book characters in which it fully accepts the total absurdity of just how silly living in a world with Superman is
Starting point is 00:16:39 mm-hmm yeah and like piece I don't have you ever seen in peacemakers costume is terrible yeah no it looks it looks like one of those like old like patriotic like goofy things oh it it looks like shit and yeah no and it's great I mean for a while the like the like what is the fallout of like the golden age mentality of superheroes has been like a thing in comics for quite a while but like taking it to the extremes and again allowing villains to just completely like take the piss out of the your your IPs and then talk shit about them in that way it's pretty funny I will say that like it's good to hear that this is
Starting point is 00:17:21 good because John Cena needed a win badly uh-huh he needed a dub real real bad and it's all this is technically his second dub because he was great in the movie Suicide Squad yeah all right yeah turns out given the right role he is much like Batista an excellent actor to the point where I'm like rock what is going on I'm seeing a bunch of other big wrestler man's become big wrestler actors and I've seen rock in a bunch of movies and he needs to stop I hate he's gonna you say as he gets paid more than anyone else on the planet well that's because of family yeah he's no he's created the
Starting point is 00:18:10 machine and it's what he wanted it to be he wanted it he wanted to be the Hollywood action machine the return of because here's the thing like there has been a like the the 80s action hero has not really come back it's just like it's disappeared and then been reinvented into different things like here's the John Wick version of what that is you know but yeah there was a time when like there was always a Schwarzenegger movie all around the corner it whatever was happening you knew he was working on something you know yeah if you if you go back to the period and you look at like movies that Arnold has worked in you'll
Starting point is 00:18:52 see like from like 82 to like 98 there's he put out like fucking 20 movies that's the thing like more than one a year in some years and like that's why he would always get talked about with the other contemporaries of Van Damme and you know Stigal of course was doing his thing you seen what's going on with Steven these days all I know is he was doing demonstrations in Russia being really fat and using his mcdojo life powers and I'm doing I'm doing big air quotes here on the demonstrations part of that he's doing that thing where a young man runs at him and then Steven Stigal like touches his wrist and does a little little twirl and the guy does
Starting point is 00:19:41 10 backflicks exactly and then he and then he sits down and he's like exhausted and it's like oh yeah no Stigal is classic it's mcdojo life there's a there's a why do you keep saying it like that Stigal yeah because that's what because that's what we used to call him back okay back in the QA days we just are you serious yeah yeah staying we used to make a ton of Steven Stigal jokes and it just got it got too long so it just got faster to say Stigal and everyone knows exactly what you're talking about and we realized too that with that joke it's an inside joke but it's not inside it's transparent because yeah no I understood what you everyone understands it immediately but it's a it's a it's a transparent inside joke so then from then on we've just been all since
Starting point is 00:20:29 been saying Stigal he gets to the point you know but yeah he's a he's part of this there's a there's a an account you can follow on instagram called mcdojo life and it's literally just oh man people from the deepest depths of your like Rex Kwondo style martial arts that are like lining up with their students that come rushing at them and then they just do like invisible haddos and knock them all over you know and and like it's full credit to like all the stooges because their performance is the whole video usually the person running the grift doesn't put any effort into the energy push they just stand there act lazily because again they're just dumb idiots but the person who's getting flipped away like some of them do back flips and straight up Shawn Michaels overselling
Starting point is 00:21:28 you know rolling back up onto their feet and then falling again it's incredible you know what's really genuinely depressing about that have you ever seen those videos of like these 50 60 year old guys who practice this kind of crap genuinely of the belief yeah i'll fight this oh mma guy this 20s yes and they are it's it's so sad because everyone's like like basically tricked them yeah and these old men just get pounded into dirt so there's three places where this goes when you follow these right because there's a bunch of those hilarious ones and then the natural evolution is a bunch of old dudes doing uh fucking god there's a great one where they're all doing like slap foo or basically yeah it's just doing a bunch of slaps very quickly
Starting point is 00:22:16 at the camera and like slapping pieces of paper and then slapping wood behind them and slapping everything and then they they show off their slap formations and then if you guys you follow some of these these accounts or these people where they're like no i have a school founded on this whole thing and i'm currently yeah belching like 10 students from their every month for some money to learn this bullshit someone might come along and go okay let's prove it's not and let's prove how bullshit it is um and then like that is take that that gets extrapolated further up into the more real versions of it where um there's there's a dude in uh china that was like an mma like professional who like learned a bunch of different styles and all the basics to like
Starting point is 00:23:02 you know do your bjj do to handle wrestling striking ground and pound whatever right and then takes that knowledge and goes to a traditional school that's been around forever and goes guys i want to show you that this is not everything right and then they're like this is an insult whatever and then they have a fight and usually there'll be a sifu you know a master that is like on the floor bleeding out in seconds and then everyone else gets real mad and rushes them down which is exactly what happens in like the first 10 volumes of vagabond really you know but there has been a weird reaction then that well it's not weird it's predictable i suppose but like a lot of those students that realize that oh this is embarrassing for the legacy have like oh
Starting point is 00:23:54 yeah really really gotten like hostile with it and like this dude this one dude in particular like literally he was being attacked in the streets and yet to hide with his family because people were coming after him because he was disproving a lot of traditional martial arts to be insufficient compared to modern knowledge and let's let's like even extrapolate that further let's say you got let's let's i'll just use kung fu as an example like shell and kung fu or whatever let's say you got a master teaching this school right and let's say his actual fundamentals are actually we're sick of argument good right like in a lot of this shit i'm looking at i'm like these guys are in their 60s and they haven't had a real fist fight in like fucking 35 years exactly yeah and
Starting point is 00:24:43 they're going like no i got this i know i'm the master that it's like you guys in his 20s he'd kill you with nothing it it it's a lot i mean technique can go a long way because here's the thing is that there are old ass men that uh are like from for example the gracy family which is a brazilian jujitsu dynasty and like they will be the old guys where um like uh oh someone tried to rob one of them at gunpoint now the guy's filming it with one hand and laughing as he pins the other guy down and just ragdolls him and laughs as the police arrive you know it's like oh no and it's like yeah that dude's an older guy that just like has that understanding of how to destroy somebody regardless listen it's it's it's it's the unfortunate reality of the male need to look at a situation
Starting point is 00:25:42 and go i bet i could take him there's a ryan's me of this meme that was going around uh uh not sure where it came up but it was like hey hey ladies if you want a good time and you have time to kill just message random guys on your on your message list what animal they think they could beat in a fight and and it just it just like it just the you know the scroll where you just flick your finger and it just goes and goes and goes like yeah what am i going to say i got a lot to say i could i could think of a couple you know yeah could i beat a horse i don't think i could beat a horse a black bear though you know no black bear i could smack a black bear around i don't know if i could probably beat up like a alpaca i think if beat up is like get it to be annoyed and
Starting point is 00:26:30 walk away as no no it's a fight yeah no if it's a fight no if a black bear wanted to end it then like no i don't think so but if a black bear those criteria looking for food and i'm like don't look for food over here it'll probably be like getting worth it anybody can tell a black bear we're having the conversation right away we're doing it yeah we're literally i just mentioned it and we're doing it's he can't help it and now i'm gonna make my anti-black bear martial art and i'm gonna use ki with my robe yeah to um so the thing that is unfortunately sad about a lot of that too is that um in many cases the whatever the the like traditional style is the the old martial art is there's oftentimes things that are super strong and
Starting point is 00:27:19 useful in it but the right way to think about it or the most practical way to think about it is that jeet kune do style of like take what's useful discard what is it you know so i mean as someone who'd like dicked around in in fucking wing chun for a couple seconds and was seeing what was there and you know i mean like or like this was years ago but i just remember it was like oh yeah this has a lot of really cool stuff for like if you are if you are like really light and the person that's in trying to push you around or whatever he was really heavy you can do stuff with their weight and transfer their weight so that you don't have to deal with it you know and yeah other styles that don't teach you about that are going to be missing out on the benefits of learning to use
Starting point is 00:27:59 someone's weight against them you know um judo has a lot of good shit with that as well that you see mma people using a little bit of this a little bit of that because there are bits and pieces that are useful but you know back when i back when i actually did a little bit of this in high school what i discovered is that i'm actually so much smaller than most of the people that i was fighting that it's actually really genuinely awkward to punch down like punching down at somebody who is that much shorter and is trying to touch your legs i mean right you when you're putting weird hip rotation and torque power into it and you kind of have to go at that correct height yeah it is awkward um like if i was crouching down to try and grab somebody's knee or something they're
Starting point is 00:28:49 trying to punch like four maybe five feet down there's a there's a clip of uh oscar delahoya fucking around in a ring with shack and it's like yeah and it's like what on the one hand you have a legendary boxer on the other hand you've got just a fucking beast of a man and with with no boxing talent whatsoever it's still shack and shack can still just nah no yeah no no back up the sad the sadest piece of advice i ever got from my my teacher at the time was like listen you can learn to be really good but boy it is an infinite gap to cross even 10 pounds of mass 20 pounds of mass and if you're dealing with somebody who is like a foot taller than you and weighs over a hundred pounds more than you literally look us dead in the eye just go run yeah yeah yeah that's it man
Starting point is 00:29:52 or stab them and then the other thing too is because like with all aspects of everything in human history is like as we go further in we understand more and like the knowledge can be shared really readily and easily so these days it's like do you really want to pick a street fight with god knows who who knows god knows what you know what i mean like you never know listen that tiny person fucking knows and like whether or not they can just destroy you like i know sir that you're in your mid 40s and you've been training under that waterfall and doing your kattas and doing your energy moves your whole life and i know this logan paul kid with the mma background looks like a pussy but he can make the veins on his arms
Starting point is 00:30:51 get really big he can so are you are you sure you that you you feel like you can take him look at this giant Naruto weeb what a loser let's go pick on him oh god damn it he's a style bender oh no oh god run it's over yeah you you just you never know you know um the last thing about that guy though who was the the uh the mma guy in china who was like doing a lot of this this touring and fighting these different schools and stuff was of all the hostility that he and his family got um the one place where everyone was super chill and accepting was the Shaolin monks and what he went to Shaolin and like had the same thing they're just like oh shit yeah okay no that's cool man you know like updating is good we understood yep totally you know what that's your
Starting point is 00:31:48 year yeah the most the most hyper traditionalist fighting arena that's ever existed in the history of the world flexible willing to adapt you know they want to live a peaceful life and also do cool shit yeah it's not actually that rigid it's just you know all the stuff but that's that's the thing is they just they're missing the the you know the the ego of damage that the others are taking especially if they've dedicated you know like 15 20 years to this thing that to be had to be told someone comes along and and shits on it you know it's here's my advice never dedicate 10 to 15 years to anything then no one will be able to tell you that you wasted your time well shit that creates a lot of problems only learn a couple skills somewhat never commit to anything you can't walk
Starting point is 00:32:44 out in 60 seconds that's right okay well all right so let's continue let's see I talked about peacemaker what else do I want to talk about oh I mean in terms of video games actually been real slow week and I genuinely I don't I feel like as a content creator slash influencer man whatever you call it I feel genuinely bad about this I played horizon forbidden west which is the new PlayStation exclusive game with the Aloy and the bow and arrow and the robots and it is a visually immaculate tightly produced mechanically dense interesting open world game that seems to be just really excellent and I had to stop playing it because I found myself ignoring cutscenes to check my business email for Elden Ring news yeah like Aloy would start talking
Starting point is 00:33:57 and I would be like okay cool okay re fretting no nothing okay you can't yeah you can't be committing to the game of that size and with that much of an ask in this critical period of time and like I feel bad because it's good but you're also in a unique situation in that like you're not waiting on the date and time that you know it's releasing you're waiting on a code drop that can be waiting on consistently like hey is there hey is there any news on the embargo date no not yet okay yeah this is that that's an I you've had that goblin forever and it's it's indestructible um and we've had many conversations about it and yeah all I can say is I just I feel fortunate that I don't have it you know yeah about about three four days ago my brain locked into
Starting point is 00:34:54 Elden Ring is one week away uh I don't care I actually this is how bad it was instead of playing more horizon I went and platinum to seafood again as the girl which man that second go through after you've done like the whole thing and that second go through it's like that like no problem yeah when we when we we can get into seafood in a little bit but like I have a major uh a major update to my mentality in that game um has has occurred um so horizon sorry horizon it's forbidden forbidden what's it called for horizon forbidden west good game um I'm sorry you came out at this time also of note uh it's one of those games that has a resolution and performance mode and um I turned on the resolution mode and then like laughed as hard as
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think I could have laughed at the result uh it drops the frame rate to like an uh fucking badly frame timed 29 fps this like juddering all over and like I'm staring at I'm like why does this even exist it's like falling apart it's so embarrassing um did uh did well did you care about like whatever zero don like stuff was missed or doesn't did it matter no they catch you up okay they catch you up real fast by any chance did you um run zero don on pc I did okay back when it came out and it was fucked up and then more recently when it's not fucked up because I'm I'm I was wondering if the pc settings at max for this in god of war are comparable to the way uh the sequels oh well this one is is like this one looks a million times better like they just throw
Starting point is 00:37:08 a million times of unique foilage at you foilage but a good game I'm sorry I don't I'm sorry I don't have it in me but yeah peacemaker and that that's pretty much what I've been doing that and um um and nothing playing with the dog and I I realized that like um that whole thing about when I was talking about like oh I'm tired of the ubi formula stuff when like from the ascreen games and shit I realized that like I am the way to get me to play an ubi formula uh whatever you want to call it like you know lookout towers whatever the shit is like the way to get me to play one is to kind of trick me into it with some other like introduction theme so um if I'm gonna go
Starting point is 00:37:57 stuff to Tsushima right yeah because I'm like let me play the Kurosawa movie and then it's like ah got you you're ubiying and I was like ah too late fine I'm already here you know or spider man well fucking Miles Morales around town yeah ah we got you you're ubiying ah those two games are really good examples because they're not actually exactly the ubi formula the problem with the ubi formula is that it's literally the exact same formula for every game okay with spider man you did get the the towers to climb but you got to spider man over to them yes yes exactly right like that like that's that's a much and it's and it's easy to spider man over to them in uh Tsushima there is no tower thing this shit's just kind of all over so right so that's it
Starting point is 00:38:49 it's just like if you can trick me into it with like something on the front that is really appealing to me uh I'll I'll commit to the rest of the of the the towers you know but if it's just the the honest introduction of no you're gonna go ubi it and you'll probably like it but it's clean ubi I'm I'm gonna be a little more hesitant you know mm-hmm that being said uh I've uh yeah I mean game does look pretty awesome and the first one does look good too um and it's one of those like yeah what the fuck is the story what's happening why is the robot a animal mm-hmm they just tell you in like a minute oh yeah okay yeah fair enough yeah it's one of those games it's like well the the first game had a big twist or two so uh if you
Starting point is 00:39:40 want to play that game and experience that as it was uh fucking don't even boot the second game because they have to catch you up like like super fast and they're like like within the intro crawl they're like here's what the deal with the robots is mm-hmm that's a pretty good reason and Lance Reddick's there so that's great that's great that's great I didn't know I never met Lance Reddick in Horizon the first one so I was glad to see there was a bigger part of the second one the only other thing that happened with my week I don't know if it counts as news but there was a ff-14 live letter of like particular notes I don't know if you have any of that on there I do have the uh the outline for the next 10 years on the docket yes okay great then well then we'll just
Starting point is 00:40:25 skip that okay and we'll just we'll just move forward if you want to check out my streams this week here's what I'm streaming nothing until Elden Ring comes out I'm gonna take it easy and go down to twitch.tv slash pat stairs at to check that out also I don't know if you saw this woolly but the game now comes out on pc at fucking 6 p.m on Thursday yep which makes the I don't know what's going on I don't I've never yeah in my career been so confused about what is going on with an embargo very very confused like like I'll be really like like behind the curtain usually when you talk to these pr people and they send you a piece of merch they send the streamer group of dirt bags the game one day early but now one day early is even one day early anymore I don't know what's
Starting point is 00:41:24 going on but all I don't know what they're doing I mean here look we have me and Reggie already spoke about it and we checked in whatever we're just gonna have to run a late stream we're just gonna start at fucking 6 p.m and do a night stream yeah usually don't do um and that's that's the only way to figure it out I usually if I if I plan if I if like I'm under the the I think reasonable expectation that I would probably have a code for the game Thursday morning right and what I usually do if in that situation is I start streaming in the afternoon because then I'm like you know eight hours ahead of the midnight release but now since releases at fucking 6 p.m I might have to do the opposite of what you're planning to do and run an early stream like 11 in the morning but
Starting point is 00:42:17 is the embargo up as of midnight I mean they usually just did the minute they give it to you they're like usually it's up yeah okay if they like because like let's take like Warhammer 3 right Warhammer 3 they gave me on February 3rd which was two weeks before the game came out and they're like the embargo is the 12th and the 14th I think it was I can't remember the exact dates so you sit on it for nine days or whatever right when they when they sit on it until the last week they usually means they don't trust you for shit and they're only gonna give it to you once it actually is too late for you to fuck it up nor should they you filthy streamer yeah here's the thing though I don't know if you checked out twitch people are streaming retail
Starting point is 00:43:03 copies as of the weekend yeah okay well yeah because amazon did that thing where they're like well we have to plan for shipping delays because you're in Alaska or whatever um and then they send the fucking things out and they show up like a week and a half early you know I predict or GameStop boss manager goes I won't tell anyone you guys broke the seal just take them just take them home I predict at some point in the near future that like twitch might get involved and basically have like certain categories locked until a certain date you know to just not in like in car yeah that's totally that's totally stopped people from streaming like uh fucking boxing pay per views the reflections of their glasses yes is there a what like like let me
Starting point is 00:43:59 take a look now is there some game called like Eldenia or something that just you know uh Elden Path of the Forgotten there you go you nailed it done did it huh yeah Majin Obama was streaming Street Fighter 6 this morning apparently somebody just chatted pointed out it's like yeah but yeah so when Elden Ring comes out I'll let you know and I'll stream it a bunch that's what's good that's my plan what's up with you this week well or last week rather yeah um so mainly just uh mainly just sifu yeah perfecting the the runs that I can cleaning it up trying to just what do you have access to right now uh so I have completed and gotten the quote unquote bad ending oh nice so I've beaten it
Starting point is 00:44:53 I hit credits and I have and I basically have the you know the default like game done so to speak and yeah so I don't want to keep going back to it but like the bug with the whole or the issue with the age reset path thing changes the way you approach everything um yeah I'm sure does so you know that that continues to be annoying but whatever um it's hilarious because so the day that I came back to do my club run um that I had like practiced and gotten uh pretty solid at was the same day the patch came out where they nerfed Sean did they so Sean got nerfed and I went and I did the fight against him and I was like oh my god so basically two things I've noticed that are that are different he doesn't do the sweep anywhere near as often as yeah oh and when you
Starting point is 00:45:54 um when you uh do avoid it he falls over and like is on his knees and open for a stagger so I played it a couple days ago and I was like man I'm crushing Sean Sean's bitch I'm so good oh man I learned him so good and like oh no I I grinded on him off camera in the original mode until I was able to see all of it and then they just went like yeah we lightened up on him you know I was like damn okay well you know I guess Sean was over tuned compared to the area in which he existed uh yes but uh I will say that like um when you're looking at them their patterns he's comparable to one of the you know the um I'll call them like the Shaolin fighters you know like the the the yeah those guys when they have a staff in their hands they do a high-low mix sequence
Starting point is 00:47:01 that's also very similar a little exactly and ambiguous you know anyways though I think the I think the bigger problem was that like you fought uh Fajar and Fajar is okay and you fight Sean and he's pretty tough and then you fight like Kuroki and oh yeah I forget and the CEO and they're jokes yeah Sean no like they're they're um I was I was kind of shocked at like how you freely you could go in on Kuroki uh phase two especially was like phase two super easy easier than phase one yeah so phase one still I'm still gonna having trouble with it right because learning to memorizing her swings and the orientation of what she's doing and then whether or not she's gonna do the follow-up is is tricky it's it's just there's a sequence of big long very similar animations
Starting point is 00:47:53 that either alternate between like high low high low or low high low high you know yeah um and then occasionally an extra fifth uh uh slam um and it is yeah and then you kind of struggle through that and then you get to the next phase and then the her every attack is high you can catch the darts yeah you know like you can fucking like it's not even anywhere near as threatening and it's like oh that's why you're the the sister that got killed in the duel and then like I was trying to um like learn to like parry the the dash in on reaction and it's like no you parry at the flash you know yeah um or just duck it I guess um so here's the thing that is like really silly that I discover literally at the final level when I'm making my way through and to yang
Starting point is 00:48:54 and doing my my yang runs um the description of the way uh parries are introduced and and avoiding is introduced yeah does I took it to based on the way it was worded to say when you see glowing limbs you have to avoid I didn't think that you could parry glowing limbs yeah I also had that exact same exact same feeling and I also didn't think because of the amount of like uh structure damage they did I thought you couldn't parry weapon attacks either and literally in the last level against the last guy before yang with he's got the staff I discovered oh I can parry the goddamn sticks yeah like anything else yep and then I'm like oh no shit getting 20 on those earlier stages was hard yep also the brutes you know the brute move set where they like yeah
Starting point is 00:50:04 the big like limbs that they the big uppercuts they throw that I'm like trying to avoid and and they don't stagger after you avoid and counter them like everyone else does I'm like yeah but if you parry you can push and then do a chasing strike so yeah like the game we were playing was harder than the game was yep because the big things that are glowing attacks that your brain is like telling you to avoid and at all costs are absolutely parryable and I went back to I 100% in the exact same so the reason why likely that we both made this mistake is because the way it's phrased is it says glowing attacks are um glowing attacks are unblockable and damage your structure you should try to always avoid them right and that's what and then underneath that
Starting point is 00:50:58 it mentions throws cannot be parried right so you have to avoid them as well and so and like they're identified by glowing circles versus the glowing limbs right but in that in that whole section it it all it says is you should always try to avoid glowing limbs it doesn't indicate you can parry them so you're left with the impression that okay if I see glowing yellow brain says don't parry of dogs get the fuck out of there exactly um avoid and and and so now with that piece of knowledge I'm like oh my god it's gonna change so much for me it 100% it changed so yang phase two was kicking my ass I love amazingly by the way but yeah it was such a different game when I realized all these glowing things just just block it yes block it didn't realize you could I was
Starting point is 00:51:48 doing the avoid I was doing the avoid on all the money didn't need to you know so anyway um yeah getting through the rest of that like it was so fucking great because I could feel how like even like so the the karaoke fight and then the the CEO like going through those and like just eking out victory I'm like fuck that like I want but that's them that's not satisfying like it's I can feel that I didn't beat the stage yet the game unironically like I made a joke about the the third level just being straight up mirror's edge is aesthetic like 100% the game structure is mirror's edge as well like you're constantly rerunning these stages for better times and and more perfection avoiding what you don't need to and taking what you do and the jug and the place
Starting point is 00:52:43 and there's a lot of like leeway for someone who like if you don't give a fuck about about shrine upgrades you can literally just skip the whole thing you can make a boss rush you know the the museum's skip is outlandish yep and I think it's because they know that phase one is gonna take you a minute you know I use the skip to practice yeah exactly um it's it's it takes me right back to the days of like sung meena and killick you know where you're trying to yeah you're trying to like see the spins of the stick you know and get used to the to which orientation it's coming at you in um super fucking cool um with all the the you know the the art design and style and and you know the the the plot as it were so far is still you know I gotta go back and get the
Starting point is 00:53:40 true ending to find out what's going on but um yeah I mean the flow state you get into when you're on a perfect run is oh that's great I've been missing that I've been missing that in in games it's it's I'm you know I don't know when the last one was but goddamn is it fucking satisfying to feel it here you know also I want to I want to give like a big shout out to the art team on sifu it is all the difference in the world to have every single stage in the game have a overt overwhelming primary color with a complementary color as well yeah right well the elements like so not just the elements right so first of all it threw me for a while because Chinese elements are different from uh Greek elements uh and I had to relook them up and it's like man wood
Starting point is 00:54:42 metal and earth are all separately distinct that's crazy um but I was like okay green red blue uh gold and white I'm like wow that's what a great overwhelming like visual aesthetic and I'm like ah it's kind of a bummer there's no black stage but there is it's the tutorial oh yeah the tutorial is in the pitch of night and all the characters are wearing pure black ah yeah that's true you so you've got the full wu zing if you put them all together okay uh that game's great um yeah I I you know and then of course you you fucking you watch your tree grow and I mean like these are games too where you know the struggle is the run without your tools yeah and then once you have your tools it just becomes like again flow state
Starting point is 00:55:51 you find the way to disarm or this or deal with every type of enemy and then you know like keep it going um I'm curious to see what that hard mode is gonna do uh when they do introduce that but um yeah I I I feel like there there should be a place for games like this um because there again they're meant to last you a month perhaps like you can't look at somebody who's looking at this and saying like hey like this I hear this game's good but you know for the cost how long is this gonna last me like it depends on how willing you are to go through it until you perfect it and whether they're not that satisfying to you the other thing and this is of even more value uh and it it's it's where the my brain went to mirror's edge the the long term
Starting point is 00:56:48 value of it is in two years are you gonna be sitting around sunday morning because you woke up too early and there's nothing to do are you gonna go man I got I bet I could fucking bust out a whole run of seafood mm-hmm mm-hmm let's try it this way their mirror's edge was like that for many years for me where I always had it installed I'm like man I bet I could fucking do the server room like like faster mirror's edge um I feel like Hades fits into that category yeah Hades absolutely like that for me gunjan I would say for me a strider classic strider 89 sure um oh yeah you you can do that like an hour right 13 minutes wow man um yeah definitely that's wild definitely like games where you just get the flow of it you can fucking you can flex nice and it's a satisfying
Starting point is 00:57:47 just like muscle memory sequence you know um well oh god um um you know what else fucking well got any treasure game let's be real because I was about to say alien soldier and then it's like no no no any treasure game is made for that right the alien soldier soldier boss rush as well um you know was a there was a time when I'm like fuck it memorize how to do everything memorize how to get through every boss crush it as fast as possible um and you know that that that goes without saying of course Icaruga so yeah uh I I really want these types of games to continue to exist and it's the perfect complement to drop right before something big and engrossing like an Elden Ring you know um anyway so uh yeah thanks for the tips they've been super helpful I do uh
Starting point is 00:58:42 I'm noticing the the the parry damage like potential is like the parry damage increase only made sense to me once I realized I could parry that fucking shit right right um and you know uh overall like you feel like because it's like the easiest low level one like age 60 you're like I'm gonna like increasing structure I don't need to worry about that I can always do it but like no no it'll help you take a couple extra hits when you otherwise couldn't you know yeah like on yang when he's coming at you with the the one that's all the wide claws right it's like I'm only confident enough to parry the like the last two of those if I don't have the big structure bar like I'm gonna be broken way before that um yeah so I'm curious to go see like I want to I'm curious
Starting point is 00:59:34 to play around with like each power up at level three and just see like how it feels you know yeah because I've also noticed that like you have a giant move list but I have my favorites you know dude when I ran in through with the girl on my second file like I I bought uh chasing chasing trip chasing trip no not chasing strikes the trip yeah I bought uh charged backfists I brought a ground counter and I bought environmental mastery and like that carried me like just that the whole fucking way through yeah environmental mastery goes away right in level three though like the club you're like fuck yeah this power is amazing and then three and four they're like you've got these art bulbs and that's it and there's a couple models here and there and the and the
Starting point is 01:00:23 office the ceo like entire thing none of those chairs tables yeah none of that shit counts as kickable you know it's it's wild when you get to the final stage and like a bunch of the games mechanics leave it just like they give you some just a clean one-on-ones yeah there's nothing in the environment to help you in sanctuary and then you get to yang and you an entire player mechanic just disappears yeah shut up yeah for even trying it but here's but here's where here's where like I'm like fuck you yang I'm not trying to use my focus I'm slowing it down to see what's up yeah I just I just want to take a second like really fast the moment I hit it and I didn't have bar and I saw that the game still allowed for a slowdown I'm like this
Starting point is 01:01:12 button's still good it's a breather still good you know um yeah sifu is like extremely high on my list um it's an all-timer I'm I'm gonna be talking about this one for a long time and I haven't gotten the true ending yet we're gonna continue and um it just it just feels good it just feels good so about the true ending so you know all that nonsense about the way you got to lock your level 20 run and all that stuff getting the true ending is comparatively like trivial because uh you're the you just have to spare them once okay ever and it doesn't have to be in a run okay you can literally like level select them out of order and then just go right to yang as long as you do it at some point okay as long as you do it in some point yeah it's it's really really forgiving because I think I
Starting point is 01:02:06 think sparing all of them in one run would have been too ridiculous um well also this is the type of thing where when we discuss how ending choices work in games you don't want it to literally just be a stupid like uh up down pick your color and you don't want it to be obtuse to the point of frustration so this seems like it sparks a nice balance you know yeah it's it's it's great we're about to head into some absolute fucking bullshit knowing from soft on on on endings you know if they're gonna be like yeah Sekiro was awesome we love what we did with that you know so it's like I I appreciate something like this that is like there's a challenge there it's a very clear one and then you can do it uh at your leisure yeah don't have anything to say about that yeah that's
Starting point is 01:03:02 fine you you you you the the aura the aura speaks now i'm anyway uh so yeah that was very great and sifu will continue sifu will continue oh i just saw somebody in the chat say grab the scrim blow and skip bonfires i don't know where that that like that old smash joke of like every time they announce some fucking whoever and somebody goes how can you how do you not know it's the scrunko the lovable scrim blow from the n64 and it's the rpg mix sword guy that that like scrunko and scrim blow as as just fucking whatever it has replaced bath modad yeah because bath modad's too long to say there you go uh so the other thing please look forward to more of of sifu and the other thing this week uh is ko f15 put in a good bit more time and then
Starting point is 01:04:19 lord jimmy bones stepped in for a a special episode so we had a little uh a little uh a little skirmish and uh yeah it's really fun um i gotta say that like it's something i've been bringing up every time i've talked about ko f and like i'm and i think i would have had this happen to me earlier had i played 14 more but i read but realistically i just i like i didn't but um i have to and i have accepted that something i loved about the ko f years when it was annual was their willingness to experiment with wild systems i loved that you know going from the solid feeling of like 98 with extra and advanced mode so you can either you know you can dodge charge your meter and then get your level ones when you're about to die or you can
Starting point is 01:05:21 you know install one and then spend it for a level three like all that shit was nice and then it's like okay uh but what are we gonna do the next time around and then um you know 99 comes in and keeps a couple things but then introduces like you've got like uh 2000 as well with like advanced uh offense and defense you've got two types of bursts and then also we bring in a fourth striker and then they throw all that shit out and then they're like okay and then we're coming back in and we're changing it up and every year was a whole new thing you know by the time we hit 2003 they're like what if we've had tagging what if we made it like yeah and then hot swan 11 comes so long and it's like what if it was just marvel what if it was marvel and i and i'm like cheering at the
Starting point is 01:06:04 top of my lungs god i love 11 i love 11 so much um and it also the best one and it introduces let's all be very real leader dbs which then go on to be you know what we we are looking at as climaxes but um yeah and you did the start of the nocturnal emission finish they are games that they knew that every 12 months we're putting out a new one let's just fucking have fun with it right uh sometimes of course that goes badly and there's systems that we don't talk about anymore such as kof 12 with the with the the critical counter system right like you banked all of it on this dumb thing but that was not an annual game that was when they switched over to the the numbers so they're going to take a couple years so i think there was a moment of realization where it was like uh oh
Starting point is 01:06:56 if this is going to be three years or more of development and we took a huge risk on a system that everyone hates the game is done we can't so let's go back to something a little more classic and solidify what people liked the most and kind of like go this is the identity right and so 13 14 and 15 have all had a very similar system of like the way uh climax and max cancels and like the ability to like um you know use your max cancels in like combos to then uh access free super and then whatever all of that has been fairly similar and i think it's like it's like that is now what kof will consider its identity going forward as a system you know and it's and it's and i it's fun i do like it but it was also just a different kind of fun to be like oh shit there's there's
Starting point is 01:07:54 fucking fourth member strikers this year that's crazy and when you pick kim capuan and you choose the alternate uh it turns out you can get kim dongwon or jayhoon to jump in as a striker as well you know huzzah um those those days are gone but uh instead we've got this which is which is good um yeah really fun uh you know struggling to figure out how i want to lay out my character my team struggling to figure out who i want to put on the team you know i learned a couple people you want to put ralph on the team willy well ralph is always on the team no matter what whether he's the best or worst character in the game ralph is always on the team turns out this time around ralph is pretty good turns out he's pretty good that's nice it's nice when that happens it doesn't always
Starting point is 01:08:43 happen shoutouts codle con shoutouts nekali that being said codle also came back towards the end there so it's fine um but yeah they they they they fixed codle and then he became very very scary in 11 did they let him walk they let him walk they let him run so that you can be on your knees um we got a uh we got ralph in in the in kind of like biking too in a way where it's like here he comes and now everybody is like who's this ralph character who's this newcomer over here oh he looks pretty strong i'm like i love his tanks motherfucker but uh not only is he great clark is amazing um the entire the entire team like the entire fucking i carry team is amazing leo is good um hey you know and uh yeah it's so stupid i love him and i've kind of just i'm like
Starting point is 01:09:42 look i've always loved venessa i just never felt like i had the dexterity to like pull her off and i said fuck it this time around she's too cool i have to keep her in the the boss a lot the swaying yeah but i just i but i love it it feels too cool to do it um and ash is back and i'm happy ash is back and ash is fucking forever also the boy i i love ash and i i'm uh still doing those sans culottes fucking ridiculous loops you know fucking hate ash so great the coat is long it's it's fucking style the coat look he the coat looks way better the coat looks great the the ash looks a lot better than hell yeah his old design and i fucking hate his hair yeah it's the boof on how he it's the boof i fucking hate how he took my fucking favorite character and
Starting point is 01:10:34 fucking shit them up for a game you hate his stupid dumb cute face let's let's say it together and his freckles and his stupid deep deep eyes and the freckles are a little annoying but uh uh i yeah anyway so that's that's uh a staple and i enjoy him uh not to mention um as as the premier charge character the premier guile of the franchise that's always nice yeah uh and then it just comes down to like do i want a fucking dinosaur on my team or not you do i do i really do it's not teesaw it's a dinosaur totally different nope shut up completely different shut the fuck up how dare you that bit is way better than like i feel like king and armor king stuff because king and armor king is super cool but yeah there's a part of me that's like oh but what if armor king
Starting point is 01:11:36 was king going heel you know and it never was but like anyway it's it's a tiger mask thing but i just i love the fucking idea of like no i've the switch though but don't acknowledge it shut up terry don't call me by my name um yeah yeah dinosaurs is a lot of fun and um that's that's you know we're gonna have to figure it out but like i think uh i think i'm gonna i'm gonna you know try to bring this game out of second fiddle slot and play it for a bit i have a question about king of fighters 15 what version should i get okay well uh now that there's no early access on um the console version and knowing that you will never be interested in attending a local you should get the pc version but i heard that the pc version acts like all good old
Starting point is 01:12:41 chi era where you got to do every move once so it can load in the shaders so it doesn't freak out i don't know that issue what is it oh you didn't okay some people when they run it like the first time you do any particular move it goes huh i haven't i haven't heard that um what i do know is as with like pretty much everything we're seeing these days across all three uh ps5 has the most input lag ps4 on ps5 has less well that's just silly is that on real engine i it might be i might be i think it is because it's the exact same thing going on with strife and it's the exact same thing going on with a number of other fighting games as well um and pc has the least amount of input lag so but it i do know
Starting point is 01:13:34 that it does have a little bit of a jank on it okay if you want the most responsive feeling version of the game i would suggest pc i have an idea i know which version i'll get i'll get elden ring all right it's fine too that's fine too but uh yeah the the only i have time for kf man i gotta get excited for three fighters for sure the only thing to um you know keep you on a console if you're like if you're concerned is if you're someone who's like i need to play the version that's going to be used in tournaments you know um that's about it uh yeah so that's that's kof15 and i'm gonna be playing some more of that as well in the future so check it all out that continues as does everhood uh which is uh i think got a couple yeah it's got a couple
Starting point is 01:14:27 episodes left as we go through it oh man i saw i saw the the tell tale woolly versus image of an incoming like incident which is like i was looking at your channel and i saw like ever would part whatever ever would part this and then ever would part two and a half hours and like wait a second he doesn't usually upload parts that are fucking fucking 150 minutes long i wonder what happened there yeah i know what happened there sometimes sometimes you you've gotta put it all together um that's the frog wasn't it it was the frog yep um that being said there is an episode and i'm just gonna tell y'all right now uh there's an episode that is just the pot it's just the podcast it's a podcast discussion it's okay yeah like we hit credits and then i go full screen and
Starting point is 01:15:28 me and reggie sit and talk about what we just saw so um sometimes murder is okay i think it's you know uh if you're here for the gameplay it's gonna be a weird interruption but uh consider it you know a filler that's optional if you'd like but that's that's coming up in the um in the list uh so everhood continues and yeah uh that'll all be going down i believe next week as well i want to take a whatever chance i can to go back and check out the new marvel mods because marvel 3 has now updated and has completely inserted uh the via the fans uh one monster hunter in the game and she looks great um she's missing her demon drug unfortunately so that means a lot of the cool shit she used to be able to do can't do currently but she's still there you can do most
Starting point is 01:16:23 of what she's about so that is literally all i wanted from infinite and then two devil may cry five virgil has been modded into the game and it's the dumbest craziest the bullshit ever um giving any one character that much power is insane and he plays and feels exactly not well not exactly but they don't know that's impossible but they did as best as they could to make him resemble the way he feels in dmc five um yeah you know three fucking sets of normals uh on on each button and whether you tilt forward or backward changes whether you you know well which weapon you switched to um the full move list with the full supers with each one like it's just crazy so we want to come back to that um yeah over on woolly versus check it out anime and manga um this week we will be of
Starting point is 01:17:28 course starting new shit so the plan is tomorrow tuesday we'll be doing sifu then on wednesday ff6 pixel remaster should be available so that will start glad i'm glad it delayed itself to the most opportune possible time for everyone's streaming schedules perfection and then thursday night as of 6 p.m eastern elden ring so please look forward to the hype week we got coming all right um how about some uh sponsors how about how's your butt it's okay actually oh yeah yeah good yeah good i took a thing before and the thing's working so i'm okay yeah good excellent all right uh this week podcast is sponsored by notion and notion is uh for people who are
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Starting point is 01:24:03 thanks woolly all right uh so let's talk there's breaking news woolly breaking news street fighter six has received six emails it has it has there are six notifications that have yet to be clicked all right three fighter six has been announced uh there's a lot of places we can go uh so i guess taking it from the top down uh yeah that is a hold on look uh go in the street better six i need to bring something to your attention that was sent to me in the last few moments on this podcast i just need you to look at it with your eyeball
Starting point is 01:24:58 oh wait no really wait when was this uploaded no this might this might this might not be this might have been done quickly last night hold on yeah we got we got tagged in the tweet of uh the street fighter sixth logo being uh of $80 purchase off the adobe stock image website okay on the stock image website there's an exact street fighter the sf logo and like it looked i was gonna say it looks like the s you draw on your desk in class a little bit but i need to see the date that this thing was uploaded
Starting point is 01:26:07 because there's no way there's no fucking way well let's see the tweet was 246 p.m today no no no no the the upload of this particular file this this could be fake news this can be fake news this might have been done last night real quickly by by uh someone real cheeky there's about a eight hour uh there's about a eight hour turnaround possible uh a buffer period no someone someone might have done this in that period of time oh my god he really really oh man that's if you if you type in how to become a graph if you type in street fighter six hexagon logo you'll find like oh thousands of the logos that are like very similar that are like years oh god that's embarrassing oh jesus christ okay i'm on the i'm on the page all right when i'm on it so here's the thing
Starting point is 01:27:12 here's the thing about the logo right here's the thing about the logo street fighter six was announced and if we're starting from the top then we're then we'll talk about the logo um um i am someone who is usually pretty open for you know graphic design changes and implementations and such i i like you know clean typography when uh yeah it's it's i like minimalism when it's an aesthetic that is that is like nicely handled um especially when you have a legacy of like loud burning text it's it's it can be interesting to create a different tone you know it can be interesting that being said um i the moment i saw this right the moment i saw the hexagon in particular i knew exactly what they were doing i can tell because i'm infallible that this
Starting point is 01:28:13 hexagon is the shape that you would see that evokes a feeling of ufc yeah so this uh this combines about 10 different things that we've heard over the past like four years about this like i just from the logo just from the logo it evokes we could yep an mma probably tell you what sf6 is right now it's an mma vibe um this hexagon would print very easily onto a belt and be the the centerpiece right uh minus the sixth notification street fighter check your discord damn i saw somebody says i can't wait for like mortal combat 14 it's the fucking gmail logo yeah yeah yeah uh um i have said that like i'm down with the acknowledgement of mma in street fighter because that's fine it's crazy
Starting point is 01:29:26 the fighting style because it's kind of crazy that like for years the franchise and many other fighting games have been martial arts and like not acknowledged this very clear super popular this is what fighting is today aspect of culture and we don't have to deal with any of the nonsense we were talking about earlier in the podcast because Ryu can throw a magic fireball and jump eight feet in the air with an uppercut that being said if the logo is in fact bought off of an adobe stock which i i this is the type of story that we get baited to in seconds on the podcast and then hours later find out was not real yeah but it's fun it's fun though yes but we are the only news source that is trusted it's okay we are fair and balanced we are we are a news delivery
Starting point is 01:30:15 podcast people don't tune in to hear us talk about our weeks they tune in to hear us talk about the news don't you know this oh god i recently we've got the fucking we've got the john stewart problem oh yeah so just as just as we're a man we're we're trusted out here damn anyway so uh yeah that's that's what the energy of the logo is going for and i'm down for an mma vibe being what they want to do with this but that's not a it's just not a really good looking it's it's going to be an mma vibe which is why luke is the new poster child because he makes martial artists which i like and that's that's the way i think luke looks just as shit in the new art style um but he looks like fucking douchebag i like it's the same problem that shunai or shunai has in ko f15 uh shunai is a
Starting point is 01:31:16 shuni shunai whatever that is the kind of character that has the accessories that like make him look like the high school kid that that is inventing his powers like shunibu oh sure i just mean in the sense that the new hero looks like garbage so all the comparisons that like have him standing next to ninja are just like yeah that's what that face looks like that's what the hair looks like that's the smile i see it i totally totally see it um so i will say uh there is so i mean we break down the trailer it's very short boy was i mad yeah i ran a fucking two hour stream to see 30 seconds did you yeah okay so that's the so okay logo logo luke luke um i think this review was there also shocking uh this i think i think this luke is uh yeah i like this look better than other
Starting point is 01:32:17 luke because again i like sleeveless hoodies as a look i think that's cool um mma whatever yeah yay for that um notice i also i'm a huge fan of like fucking gaitendo and you know that type of character like i i've always just been down for that um your backy types if you would uh even then on the other side here's the here's uh unequivocally thank fucking god the default review is now hot ryu yep and hot ryu is now not just hot ryu he's also giga chad he's wide ryu he's always he's always wide but this is made for giga chad meming specifically when that jaw drops it's also i don't know what is the deal with resident evil engine game sorry reach for the moon oh the christa uh but like dudes in that engine go wide he looks like chris he straight up looks like chris
Starting point is 01:33:20 interesting and i do appreciate his new look and how fucking wide he is because he looks a lot more like masoyama yes who is his original inspiration yes like a very old japanese martial artist from like i want to say like the 50s or 60s or something like that yes um um but it's the it's the uh uh so the the masoyama the wide exactly like original influencer martial artist uh uh the wide acuman ryu that then gets made even wider um by ikeno right ikeno takes the the the acuman stiff ryu cues and then just buffs them up even heavier and this is going into that right um the the the beard on hot ryu originally was more of a five o'clock shadow this one looks like it's been like chiseled yeah you know but like i can clearly see that when hot ryu dropped they realized how
Starting point is 01:34:21 much of a crazy meme that was and went oh we fucked up oh dude it's it's it's what it's the natural evolution of his design which is more hobo yeah also shirt down also yeah fucking shoes dude he's got slippers on oh that's for the first time ever he's not barefoot that's crazy insane what a concept um i saw folks were saying that i was a 30 second pre-rendered trailer no that is absolutely resident evil engine in game that is what the character looks like they're showing off gameplay and so here's the i don't know if gameplay is the right word okay there's an engine they're showing off an engine it's an engine that's what the models look like okay um so there's different feelings i have about it and like the overwhelming one is god damn it stop with the
Starting point is 01:35:13 announcement to the announcement but i know you'll never stop terrible this is what they do it's what they've always done the way street fighter five was revealed was in a short trailer that was all about community stuff and then there was three seconds of gameplay and then and then the sf5 logo right this time around it isn't nestled in a bunch of fluff but the trailer to the trailer is just something capcom won't stop doing i i god damn wish they wouldn't what it was nestled in was a delay so daigo oh yeah yeah yeah ran out the clock and the the fucking the fucking timer on the countdown was supposed to drop at midnight yes but you can't and then just suddenly it's one p one a m and and how fucking great is the the the irony of people being like fuck off daigo lose already so we can
Starting point is 01:36:13 get to the street fighter six announcement when five is the thing that's anyway um yeah it's it's you're watching peak street fighter five being played by you know uh the the og himself and it's like he's fucking he's delaying he's delaying the reveal uh but anyways um so the whatever they tease the tease and then we're gonna get more info eh fine i wish i wish you actually had you know stuff to that but anyway um that at the very least is you know it does its job i suppose to people who are they just want to hear announcements like an investor or something that's just like oh right they've they've pointed out what their next thing is okay big talk um move the money uh huh um so rews the wide the buff i always talk about how much i love that shit i love the the the the
Starting point is 01:37:06 acuman and and uh ikenno style uh coming in and i love every time that like they double down on how much of a not typical like Ryu the poster boy the alpha years is gone forever and he's not the anime main character kid you know um so that's cool and yeah when it comes to the detail of the re engine and the vascularity of the muscles and all of that shit it looks incredible and the details look fucking you know super super good um i hope because i was just talking about this in regards to kof that this does not spell out a abandonment of stylization for hyper realism across the board top to bottom because i love that street fighters journey into 3d has kept the artists interpretations as the priority over just realistic 3d i love that it's an identity
Starting point is 01:38:16 and even when it includes goofy shit like can face and chun li palms and sakura thigh um it's a bolder artistic choice and that i that i always respect uh there are moments i was leaving a space there but mm-hmm there i i am very worried that it is going for photo realism above all the way through i am very worried because that was the first thing i ever heard about this game i don't want to see the the you know the artists that have been around at capcom for years and like what their designs are compromised for the reach right and furthermore i don't want to see but okay i like the mma inclusion and i like the angle i do it's that's that's totally makes
Starting point is 01:39:31 sense to me of this franchise um i i understand as well aesthetically trying to find an audience amongst mma fans right they was there was a commercial that played during um a major ufc event that introduced street fighter as the original mma fighter right right uh but the degree that you compromise i suppose you know what we've come to love uh for that redirection uh needs to be you gotta be careful about that because third strike putting in a kind of hip hop they got the urban flow and the design and the aesthetic kind of having this vibe to it didn't fundamentally change um uh what street fighter was it just kind of still was incredible sprite work doing the most beautiful shit we had seen of the franchise up to that point
Starting point is 01:40:31 right but the flavor was still on top of that i i don't want the flavoring of an aim for mma to then also go like we're looking at a ufc or an ea game for a title screen and a versus screen that is absolutely what this is gonna be like the whole front end is gonna look like a sports game i wonder if it is you know um i've always talked about how like some of my favorite hud's in the kof games have been the ones where like the hud itself is like the tv broadcast of the king of fighters tournament happening that's just really cool because it's like it's in media it's a part of what we're seeing here um street fighter becoming you know like a a a tournament in that particular way i just i want to see the flavoring and i want to
Starting point is 01:41:27 see the introduction of that angle but not for it to completely just feel 100% like an in an ea mma game you know in in top to bottom form but it's got fireballs in it i really hope we don't go that that route i think that's what it's gonna go okay we're gonna have to see more uh but i'll say this the the parts of the trailer where you saw the ink lines appear um those freeze frames are fucking hot first of all especially on uh the ryu one like when you go like you freeze frame it right is like the the ink is splashing over him and it's like oh that's a fucking beautiful uh uh uh yeah that's that's a that's a in a way ask like rendering of a character looking thing it's it was awesome um if that is kind of gonna be what it looks like
Starting point is 01:42:23 when you're about to do a super or you know when you're about to do anything stylish or so in the game uh that that'd be cool i think it's probably gonna have the same amount of play that the ink did in sf4 four and five yeah yeah form has more um but like that would be that'd be nice to see that that played with as well to kind of just like you remember that like yeah this is this is street fighter too it's it's not just um capcom's mma fighter you know um and then of course there's going to be the whole thing where like the bones of it you could expect yeah still jump over cross up hadoken show you you know all that shit it's gonna play like street gotta play like street fighter and hopefully uh you know that's gonna be a fucking really fun one but um what we have
Starting point is 01:43:14 what we have here is something that like it's gonna we're gonna need to see more i'm gonna need to see more um but the most important thing is whatever the fuck they're making they have to make it and finish it before you launch do i launch an incomplete product that will sully the entire game's impression on the audience because the version they buy at launch only gets better two years later and nobody that bought it back then it bothers to check in and and like it's street fighter five has become a better game it tons of people don't give a fuck the launch was bad enough that the impression was i dude i played a ton of it and fell off it before it ever became the good street fighter five so please learn from that please please please um take the time
Starting point is 01:44:14 you know if you don't have anything to show off you know it is what it is but um the more important than whether or not we saw gameplay yesterday more important than whatever our first looks are are going to be of the game and more important than you know the the um the artistic direction of the game and then the ui and all that stuff is the package you release needs to be a complete one because yeah it's not just about the memory of launch five being something that a lot of people still were like uh like down on it's also the competition has gotten fierce and there's a lot of amazing other fighting games out there that are not street fighter also like your fighting game hitting its stride a couple years in is a disaster for anyone who's not really good at
Starting point is 01:45:05 fighting games because somebody tells you oh dude street fighter five is really cleaning itself up it's a really great game now you go okay cool i got destroyed because people who were there when it was incomplete you had two three years to practice on it so that is something where better online systems improve it um the like there are big problems with towers that like me and a bunch of like towers and in in in guilty gear strive um the higher you go the the more of a problem it becomes but yeah for fixing what you just described it completely does so if beginners can have something like towers um you you stop that problem from happening yeah it's a voluntary level of of opting into this much challenge and then going up a little more if you want to
Starting point is 01:45:59 you know you know what would really help with that free to play it would help a lot it would help a lot uh i don't know if this is they won't do it no if they were going to do it i think the timeline for development might have been different but like remember 2009 2016 2021 right um the the development time is such that it's like it's time to cash in we gotta get we gotta make some money on on this name um they yeah it's not like the game's actually been in development forever well uh that'd be crazy that would be if it was if it's actually been a development for years and years and years um i if god i wish they could take the hit and just be like fuck it let's let's
Starting point is 01:47:02 see how this goes because they have the name that can do it i really do but yeah they're not gonna do it they're not gonna do it um i mean in the same in the same way that it's like i'm sitting there like full full well staring at uh uh uh the a number that i'm waiting to turn into street fighter six and in my brain i'm like yeah but what if what if capcom versus capcom though what if you said boy i was so mad when i saw that tweet because i not only knew but i knew but i knew that it was gonna be street fighter six and i just like but what and i and i saw you go capcom versus capcom and i'm like yeah i want it to be that instead of what i obviously know it's gonna be am i allowed to engage in a little bit of magical thinking every now and then
Starting point is 01:48:00 yes i would like to i mean i'll tell you what well if they ever started working on capcom versus capcom you'd probably know about it like three years before fucking got announced so like i would hope so so when you post like boy i hope it's capcom versus capcom everybody should take that to know it's not capcom versus capcom no i i just i i willfully engaged in some magical thinking um but yes no anyway do you know what my favorite part of the announcement was when they cut back to the analysts at the capcom cup everybody on the stage reacting to the sf6 announcement you got to see the whole spectrum of acting talent the mics were cut so the mics were cut the mics were cut but you got to see everything
Starting point is 01:48:54 from like that uh people holding up a chair to like the guy that was on the far left that was like yeah that's cool uh wow yeah oh man we're not quite gonna get the uh the days of the the tasty steve arm grab right if you're not playing tekken what is wrong with you uh yeah no i um anyways i i'm i'm i'm i need more info but like what's here is uh hopefully something that they're like i hope that they're like putting things out and testing the waters and feeling how people are are reacting to things because i feel that the version of luke that dropped into five was also like a like hmm we can change him around for six now like we can get rid of the stars on the arms we can tweak this and do that and you know like i feel as if there was a a a costume um
Starting point is 01:50:12 a test thought at some point yeah you might be able to change every single part of luke up until release but yeah um from his hair to his clothes his shoes if luke is the poster boy that represents the new world of mma which you know again not everybody is excited for and i get that uh i hope that there are other genres of character that are newcomers that people would be excited for you know i would like to see some new characters i'd like to see some old returning characters that have that have not been seen since fucking street fighter one get some wretzu up in there you know if you know what i we can dig up final fight characters as well that's great what's the nightmare the fucking absolute nightmare
Starting point is 01:51:11 uh it's like okay 16 characters your old classics uh Ryu Chun-Li Zangief Blanca etc right for the first eight and then here's the new the new warriors it's luke the mma man and joey the mma man and sarah the mma lady and joey the mma guy that's that's my point my point is is like you know if we're bringing it in and we're steering in that direction like you gotta still bring in the the freaks and we know that the freaks have always been strong sf will always pick four freaks and drop them on you and you're gonna go damn these some freaks you know i want the white one with no mouth you can pick the white one with the mouth and the weird limbs no the other white one with the mouth and the weird limbs okay yeah that's pretty vague that's pretty vague
Starting point is 01:52:20 and then and then you know you got your fucking you got your freak picks always always pretty much a guarantee in these games i'm i'm yeah i'm like what happens because here's the thought right follow the experiment through hyper realism okay cool what happens when abigail shows up abigail's like 11 feet tall right what happens do you just take brock lezner and increase his fucking scale percentage like what does what do you do you know no i don't know i don't know but you can't make sense of that so hyper realism can only go so far with that's not true go as far as they want okay so uncanny valley then oh yeah just full on dullson is a realistic old man and you're just going to get creeped the fuck out yeah dullson
Starting point is 01:53:24 just looks like the the the fucking bald version of the guy from the human guillotine and he does all that arm shit oh boy uh and on every and on every normal you hear all his joints dislocate also if anyone is going to complain or say anything fucking bullshit about chun lee and the size of her thighs you need to go look at the real life versions of chun lee that already exist or they're like no no no there are people that have those proportions so chun lee is already real no you know what they need to do right they need to take like you know that lady who cosplays a chun lee with the big thighs yeah just grab that slider seventy percent more just have a head on a pair of legs but then they'll go find somebody who looks like that in real life too
Starting point is 01:54:20 well there's no one walking around that's a head on a pair of legs not with that attitude so yeah um more info desperately needed uh at the end of the day capcom streetfighter needs a win needs a really big win because um you know they're being shown up in this fighting game climate uh capcom's you know like five got to a good state after way too long infinite did nothing um and every time a capcom game doesn't work out uh someone else shows up and takes that spot you know and we've seen enough uh that we know that like arxists and nether realm are willing to just hoard that shit if time will you know let them so um they they they really really really need this to work the fuck out yeah and what better way
Starting point is 01:55:26 to calm us down and make us all relax that it's going to be great by earlier today announcing that yusuke hashimoto the person who made bayonetta two play worse than bayonetta one is one of the designers on street fighter six so hashimoto who i believe we reported on the story uh he left platinum three years ago um as the designer on street fighter six that being said i think you give bayo two way more flak than it deserves i think bayo two is a fucking awesome game was the last time you played it a while ago when i was played it last year and that's when i got my grumpy opinions on it but i liked it i liked it like i liked it back then too though like i
Starting point is 01:56:24 there's the stuff that you kind of go uh these are the changes between one and two that that come to that come to mind and when we when i did it back in for the early channel with reggie and stuff there was a like revisit of the package but i still you know i got it i still think it may was two is a fucking cool game like i i think the difference between um the difference between like one being a better game versus two is not that controversial a statement uh though two being considered like not good is another answer to that okay well i said it doesn't play as well because uber and climax is horribly over tuned fair enough the other things on hashimoto's list include uh biohazard biohazard four and god hand uh to some degree so he's worked on some stuff
Starting point is 01:57:20 that's true you know i'm not going to look at the bayo two uh part of that is a well it's better than oh no and i'll be all it is isn't it it is um you said he left platinum three years ago uh i believe the story was a but yeah i think we ran the story three uh or four years ago or so why you think you went right into working on this i think he went right into working on this i think he might have well that timing's crazy think he might have been poached maybe maybe they were like hey we need someone else to work on street fighter six right now yeah uh god someday but not today not today anyway he's um he's so i'm looking at the credits and it's like yeah he's um um he is director on bio two producer on bio one
Starting point is 01:58:29 and uh various credits for visual crew um special effects art department and other on many of the other games including uh yeah are the re stuff devil may cry god hand etc there's there's a there's a you know he's been involved with some fucking some hot shit um i am cautiously optimistic i need to see if you want to know how round if you want to know how woolly feels woolly feels cautiously optimistic i need a round i do like i'm i'm in a really i'm like totally could go either way i need to see one round i'm kind of shocked we didn't see no the only thing we can tell is if the ink flashes are what they did in the trailer they're going to look very pretty the ink splashes are going to look very very cool if that's what they're doing with it and that's
Starting point is 01:59:32 and that's about it um i also hope that they embrace uh aging characters please be set after streetfighter three please yes please please we don't have to stand in this weird nebula between two and fucking uh three forever i think seeing old re you is kind of like okay finally like we know they've showed up alex is here we've done it gills here they've they've done it it's there luke showed up for a second he's there could school please move forward into the future all right uh other things that were announced were the i'm just gonna call it the fucking darkstalkers collection plus other cool shit oh dude there's so much stuff in that there's uh i'm really happy about that because um we have been
Starting point is 02:00:37 going back to a bunch of old capcom classics on get into fighting games uh that and over the last few months we played red earth cyberbots and um we did a v-sav episode you know back in the day with estabonds so like it is a very clear like this is the capcom test as you know not for everything though they're not you're not they're not testing whether or not you want to buy pocket fighter but um when you look at this list it's like there's a very there's no real chance of anything cyberbots related uh showing back up in any way outside of costumes but you better believe your ass that the darkstalkers emphasis on this collection probably is not for nothing and it's all five and v-sav is you know too is where v-sav is where people are gonna
Starting point is 02:01:34 want to probably spend the most time on um it is very cool to see all of these things roll back right away lobbies confirmed perfect right and like even little shit like when we were playing cyberbots and i was like ah i wish i could like practice it's like oh yeah there's a practice mode now okay good so um an excuse to to take a look at these things that uh i've like again i've just been thinking i'm like why would you just let these sit and like not have any access to them so good collection capcom fighting collection too uh probably hopefully at some point maybe will finally give us a third strike that we can play in the in the modern context so i have to really fundamentally disagree with you on one thing well you called this
Starting point is 02:02:29 the thing that there's a lot of darkstalkers game in this isn't a coincidence and this is a capcom test you you know better than to say that something is a capcom test the capcom test has always been an overt lie it has never actually meant anything uh with this particular one i think there's some history to assume yeah absolutely there is but like my darkstalkers has historically sold well on every single one of its releases or re-releases and that never meant anything regardless of whatever happened to be going on behind the scenes what because sometimes it doesn't sometimes those sales didn't matter certainly um and like i've i have played i put by ace attorney and resident
Starting point is 02:03:26 evil games and have seen people overtly say oh yeah this is a test to see what's uh what's popular here and no matter how well those sell and those are those are franchises that don't have the nonsense going on with the darkstalkers has they'll just do whatever the fuck they want i am i'm i imagine again and and you know there's a lot of there's a lot of rumors and there's a lot of bullshit and there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes and behind the curtains that uh you know affects this title in particular that i i look at and i go i wonder if it's even just a prompt to go like should we even start from scratch you know that i can see that's what i mean should we even start from scratch because um this is a of of the 10 games on this collection
Starting point is 02:04:24 half of them are darkstalkers and the other half are just they grabbed some you know some cps well they have they have let they have let darkstalkers kind of languish in their re-release department for a while and hey but but like there's street fighter six we can look at if this thing finally has decent netcode we can take it to assume that sf6 they're gonna improve whatever the fuck was wrong with five and actually give us a good playing game but yeah but they didn't include like um armored warriors they just they threw several bots on you know they didn't include you know the not everything got its variations so um yeah that's my read on it uh is this is a glorified darkstalkers collection and i'll tell you one thing at bare minimum um the extremely
Starting point is 02:05:14 small but passionate darkstalkers competitive community uh is you mean daigo and his six friends i mean daigo and estaban and like three other dudes are going to be very happy about this because those games are crazy and the ability to play them for real and with rollback is like you've okay great it's now been settled for at least the next decade you know um so that's great this is this is a really i'm happy with this announcement and um i'm happy as well that people get to experience the fucking weirdness that is warzard aka red earth the fighting game that is don't care for that one it's a fighting game that is also a single player adventure that lets you level up and get new moves as you progress and then you're you save your character and then when you get more
Starting point is 02:06:06 moves your character gets stronger it's fucking just that shit crazy crazy shit but also because of that there's only four characters who it's on the collection give it a give it a glance and play it for 15 minutes and go wow play it and use a password to unlock the full version the full level the max leveled up versions of the characters otherwise you're going to have like three moves and that'll be it yeah play it and be like wow this was really worth putting in the most absurdly draconian anti piracy measure ever to be instituted on our arcade board for god the suicide system to protect this yeah it was to protect third strike in jojo really of course it was but still um and and cyberbots as well is like hey look you know you like it's a jinn
Starting point is 02:07:04 sautome costume now here's the game he came from um i to this day am astonished that that the suicide board was defeated phoenix phoenix mod cuz cuz like there's one thing about like you know like i'll look at like guys you know you you your browser on the internet you're like oh this is dude's lock picking channel or whatever right it's like i picked these locks ha ha right and it's okay whatever but the thing with the suicide boards there were only a certain fucking amount of them and every time you tried and failed the fucking thing was self-destruct yeah so uh just to catch everyone up to speed the cps3 was the arcade board that was introduced um to uh to surpass the cps2 which is where all the alpha games came from and such cps3 being
Starting point is 02:07:57 third strike jojo's bizarre adventure red earth and one other game that i always forget anyway doesn't matter it's pretty much just those um and the piracy of the street fighter boards and at the time arcade rainbow editions etc i was rampant it was crazy it left capcom paranoid as fuck because their whole business was people buying street fighter two machines that was the whole company um for a solid while there and it made sense because of how fucking successful the goddamn thing was right like it took over the world it was the most popular thing it was the fortnight du jour so um they needed a way to fight back against the knockoff boards that would uh inevitably happen for every game that they were putting out and eventually not only were those knockoff
Starting point is 02:08:49 boards like cheaper um but they were introducing modded versions of the games that people were like super hyped to play because they had crazy shit in them like pressing start to change character in mid round floating off the air hadokens flying backwards through the screen larry it's the go flying upwards that you can float walk in the air all that crazy rainbow edition shit people were like oh my god you know um so cps3 then had the highest security level ever for an arcade board was in that it required you to have a cartridge for the game uh which i i'm literally like right over here you've got a cartridge for the game for third strike then you have a disc for the game for third strike both have to be simultaneously on the board and running at the same time you can't
Starting point is 02:09:45 have one without the other um and uh if you did your board was at risk however over time natural degradation led to a problem where even if you did have them both together with age it might still run the risk of suiciding itself and dying so that nobody could uh uh well nobody could clone the board but also legitimate owners had a time limit that they could fucking use the board for um it was i don't it wasn't designed to happen but it was a hardware failure that resulted in everyone at some point having to call up capcom hardware to be like can you please repair my copy of third strike yeah they were they were guaranteed to die and like over really relatively short period of time and if you tried to take them apart to fucking clone the fucking board tampering fuck off
Starting point is 02:10:44 it would also die so the only way to deal with it was to um literally send it back to them and their arcade division would fix it and send it back to you they'd repair it or replace it uh and that was the state of cps3 for a while uh however as you can imagine that doesn't exactly go over well with other developers and other and other people trying to make games and that those four games were the only things that came out on the fucking thing because that's insane right like that's ridiculous people then moved on to other shit and by that time Naomi was popping off anyways and of course the best part guys we've made the most secure board ever this thing loves to kill itself our games are so protected what games oh you mean these four complete fucking bombs
Starting point is 02:11:36 so yeah eventually as you can imagine with everything capcom arcade division announced that they weren't taking in repairs anymore and that was the end of that um so modders and hardware enthusiasts found a way to resurrect dead boards with something called a phoenix uh uh modification that you know saved everyone's legitimate arcade copies of third strike so um it's ridiculous and that's why that whole platform well that was one of the contributing factors to why cps3 fucking died uh crazy anyway don't make that mistake again now it's just title type x2 for everything uh so these games are coming out and uh they will be able to live in a world with rollback and yay for that huzzah huzzah we really just need another collection that just has all
Starting point is 02:12:38 the just just put out all of it the rest that's good netcode god damn it let's do it okay now speaking of uh things dying and losing access to your shit as of late march 2023 it will no longer be possible to make e-shop purchases on the nintendo we you and 3ds family of systems you hear that everybody nintendo is saying it's okay to pirate nintendo explicitly explicitly rolled out the red carpet and handed everyone at the door a complimentary ipatch and pirate hat yarr don't pirate these games okay then can i buy them no there's fire emblem games that are gonna be no longer available right for fuck's sake the degree of nintendo's hostility towards the
Starting point is 02:13:44 concept of just archival video game access is so insane that the video game history foundation wrote a statement about it basically pointing out that uh here well while it's unfortunate people won't be able to purchase digital 3ds or we u games anymore we understand the business reality that went into this decision we don't understand what we don't understand is the path nintendo expects fans to take should they wish to play these games in the future as a paying member of the uh entertainment software association nintendo actively funds lobbies to prevent libraries from being able to provide legal access to these games not providing commercial access to is understandable but preventing institutional work to preserve these titles on top of that is actively
Starting point is 02:14:31 destructive to the video game history um we encourage gsa members like nintendo rethink their position yadda yadda yadda like well i mean everyone knows exactly what their their plan for you to play these games in the future is is if they choose to re-release them in the future for some shitty online service you'll have to buy them there yeah if they so choose yeah um and and all the world's hands are no well they've never been tied when it comes to this stuff it's just a matter of again sailing the the fucking seven seas on it but it's it's ridiculous it never gets any less ridiculous to see them continue to just not give a fuck about erasing the entire history you know just making it like completely a non
Starting point is 02:15:20 question and if you want to transition people over to the new e-shop or whatever the fuck then have them all carry over just make it an easy transition no fuck off if they carried over anyway and you went like gotta go get them here now it'd be like yeah okay well they're selling the new thing it's understandable whatever i mean this this is completely hostile to that and and it's it's full it's always been like uh uh uh you know that kind of statement of like yeah no it's it's it's you know ethically it's morally okay and it's a fucking pirate games that are just unavailable for any purpose whatsoever in this way and it's like yeah and also they show no signs of stopping um this behavior for everything they do i'm a big fan of sterling's
Starting point is 02:16:09 old video about why it's completely morally okay to pirate all nintendo games um and if you're not familiar it's because sterling put like a four second clip of like a fucking mario kart game in one of their videos and nintendo claimed the entire video and took the all the revenue for it which is flagrant disrespect of fair use in copyright law which means nintendo doesn't actually care about copyright law which means you shouldn't care about copyright law which means okay to morally pirate nintendo games now that is a bit circuitous yeah and i it's a it's minor but i'm not a lawyer so i cannot possibly tell you the legality of what i'm about to say and it's probably not uh legal but i think it's a fairly common understanding from the average person who
Starting point is 02:16:59 engages in this kind of industry that if there is no longer any possible way to acquire something there's literally no harm done to anyone either morally or ethically but maybe not legally to acquire it yourself through extra legal means yeah um the more continuously hostile they are towards this type of um like process this type of history for like anybody that like wants access to a game that and doesn't want it to not exist um it the sillier it gets and the more worried i am in the long run that like imagine if you're looking back at the history of video games after we're in whatever nth generation and there is a period of time in the there's the beginning like the actual beginning and then there's the rebirth post-itary new nintendo um and then you
Starting point is 02:18:03 go four or five generations up then you introduce the digital era and then there's a dark period of 10 year gap like literally like the history of games disappears here because all this digital shit has been erased and they never gave a fuck about bringing them back they said ah maybe we'll sell it to you one day here's a good example i think somebody in the chat pointed out that like one of the persona q games came out two years ago and it was only digital jesus christ so like that and also here's the best part ds and 3ds games are like uniquely designed to become obsolete because their aspect ratios and shit only exist on their own systems i mean it's almost like nintendo putting out a handheld console that had a 3d gimmick that would
Starting point is 02:19:01 only work on itself ever had something to do with this being planned for in the future remember that feeling you'd get every time i said the word before crisis i did just that for the entire library for the entire console library you know unique to the games gimmicks of the 3d mechanic here or the or the the we you tablet fucking system there as well you know i recently i was recently reminded that the 3ds ocarina of time in major's mask remakes have gyro aiming along with the 3d this is a bit of an aside but like how how you supposed to do that yeah um well if you're me you spend a ridiculous amount of time
Starting point is 02:20:03 going through every single option in the emulator and recreating a lot of what i can't believe oh my god damn yeah oh my god anyway whatever we can there's only there's only so many times you know so see you guys see you guys the next time this happens certainly and sony wasn't too far off the other day either see you guys when fucking nintendo says that every game that comes out on its flat service only gets to live for six months i mean the fucking we wear shit just like what did you develop to oh like your gaming resume can just be like a hundred we wear games because like who the fuck can check i saw i saw the point being made that um not only because of the way nintendo treats its uh it's uh preservation
Starting point is 02:21:12 but everything about nintendo's games is like the perfect case for piracy as like a moral imperative their games don't go on sale or diminishing price nope ever ever you know because of this thing where they're gonna turn off credit cards and stuff for the e-shop that some nintendo games are going on on an unprecedented 15 off sale bam the highest discount ever like it's ridiculous mario kart 8 is not fucking worth full price now breath over breath of the wild should be worth eight dollars now if it was on anything else but if we never crack then they'll never and we'll steal it no if we never crack then they'll never think oh maybe they'll crack they'll just go non-nintendo
Starting point is 02:22:24 never cracks and so we'll just bite the bullet or not hey you know what switch game looks great in 4k what's that all of them yeah yeah i hate this i hate that i legitimately hate that that's the answer i'm so glad that we just met right there ah well anyway what else perfect hey i gotta take a break i gotta take poochie out and i gotta take myself out as well b rb okay doke what else is new in the world aside from that shit but let's ignore that a lot of fighting game announcements came right afterwards as well oh did they yeah quite a few things i didn't notice so um well and some of it before as well but uh yeah they and when they
Starting point is 02:23:35 announced some time ago that they were bringing back rollback to uh blaze blue they also announced rollback was coming to uh cross tag battle so wow that's that's almost all the way there on the back catalog bb tag is getting rollback in april but the public test begins on february 23rd that is what is left uh fucking grandblue fist of the north star do you think this is the kind of thing where they're putting these in and then seeing the sales go up so they can convince fucking toway or whoever is cock blocking the shit for dbz to do the dbz
Starting point is 02:24:25 i think it will be a definitively difficult argument to resist when they show you everything else we made experienced a massive resurgence when we fixed the online can you please allow us to fix dragon ball i think so because you know what else is happening this week what's that that lab coat android 21 has been released or rather that we've got a trailer for the new character if uh if the if the dragon ball z fighters gets the rollback uh that game gets to be the new marvel 3 forever it just added a new character it's like it's actively still going they're promoting it they care but the ridiculous night game it's a good game um also she looks great she looks super cool and uh lab coat supremacy forever uh fuck y'all cowards
Starting point is 02:25:34 also references to a bunch of shit with her attacks i think there was a i mean besides there's a there's like a fucking full-on camon rider pose after she does like her level three there's a hell yeah there is there's a d o pose there's a d o pose there and there's a appropriately enough an android 16 giant self-destruct explosion reference as well so hell yeah um she's looking cool and that's like that's exactly it i i think it becomes a lot harder for arxis or rather for everyone involved with the the bandai and toa side of things to look at every other gay marxist has been go bite look we did it to everything before and after dragon ball and everyone's happy and it's all great literally just let us do this like yeah and the the way you
Starting point is 02:26:29 the way you do it is you like you drop the price 50 and call it rollback weekend so that you have these graphs that have these fucking spikes on them and you get to say stupid shit like you know when we added the new internet to it the sales increased 6000 percent the line went up um yeah i uh it's it's pretty funny but either way if you want to jump in on the public network test for that uh bb tag on the 23rd do it it's not quite the persona characters you love but boy is it not but there's something there's something going on with the game it has the closest system to controlling two people at once um in a reasonable manner i would say compared to like uh marvel one and infinite with the marvel infinite is like the back and
Starting point is 02:27:28 forth but then there's like you don't fully control there's just like a shitty ai pattern and then marvel one it's just like literally simultaneous inputs but in bb tag to like to their credit you use the tag button to do multiple things with your second character at the same time as moving your first around your your brain it actually has to fucking split it's impressive um so that was announced and then because why the fuck not akatsuki blitzkampf irons and n irons perfect welt anastasis has been announced why why do people tag me in this announcement i genuinely don't understand i don't know because that's you i'm the one you
Starting point is 02:28:22 need to be tagging in that yeah you are also tagged but like what am i doing being tagged in this i don't fucking know about no akatsuki blitzkampf here's what you need to know uh katsuki katsuki blitzkampf is a fucking really fun game it's a fun game and uh then they updated it with a version that nerfed a bunch of cool shit that was wacky and it was like damn why did you do that we liked it when it was crazier and then there was another one that's still kind of crazy again it was like okay it's it's back to being kind of crazy um and then now there's a new version coming out and that is awesome because uh for those who don't know uh this is the one with the nazis oh yeah yeah that's the one you might have seen the trailer for um cross tag
Starting point is 02:29:15 when the when suddenly the blitzkampf was going to show up and you're like what the fuck is that is that a tank with a skull on it it's like sure is so yeah it's the one with the nazis and it's good it's really fun i can't wait fritz is my main plays like a sam show character in the middle of a non-sam show game uh that on its own has my interest no matter what the series does hell yeah shout outs to uh our protagonist who uh works for the the imperial army but uh like secretly double they did a was a double agent possibly for the the germans and then i think he gets frozen literally captain america style and then defrosted years later as like the the other side of the as a as the the axis cap type thing but secretly not really
Starting point is 02:30:15 fuck it doesn't matter let's take this whole thing this whole thing just reeks with ss uniforms are unironically stylish and cool villain looks so i want to make a character or characters with that aesthetic but that is a little touchy isn't it snazzy dressers sure you can't listen to me you if you walk into the art room of a mangaka who's in the middle of putting an armband on one of their characters and go stop it they will fight you if you try well even that's weird because japan didn't give up on the armbands the armbands still continues it does and also japan has its own problem right okusa no ha looks cool as shit that's the fucking imperial army uniform yep that also bad uniform but has a hat and a little
Starting point is 02:31:17 cape remember in 13 sentinels when the dude was in the uniform and you're like damn he looks pretty sharp yep yep well anyway um it's a good fighting game and it's getting an update and a new version i'm excited that means that's not the only small fighter getting an announcement omen of sorrow the fucking fighter from way back when that was all it was all about monsters and horror themed stuff um this one i don't you probably don't remember because we there's a couple of like like monster or horror themed but it was just it was a it was a it was a thing that was at evo and then i think we might have played like a two or three character build version of it um yeah it's just it's just a horror themed fighting game uh and it was all right you know
Starting point is 02:32:25 it felt it felt okay there was some some polish that needed to be done and it looks like uh they've been working on it for the last fucking three years or so and it's now coming to switch in PS5 so yeah um cool check that out if it's Richter in it uh then uh no no Richter is not in it oh okay that's also coming out on uh February 24th so very busy weekend very very busy weekend i'll i'll say it again i'll literally say it again in my entire career of talking to community managers and pr people i have never spoken to one let alone two cms who have told me we are getting out of the way of this game blunt flat never it's hilarious so anyone who's releasing this week or next week as fucking huge balls damn really woolly you're really selling me on this game
Starting point is 02:33:35 it's not my fucking job to sell you go it is a little i'm gonna play a cartoon commercial yes i'm gonna play it when when we get a chance to on the channel just because i want to see how how the game is doing the fucking looking up yourself if you want to if you're interested fuck off um omen of sorrow and then uh yes that was that and then android 21 and that was the that was the end of the fighting game news then uh we from out of fucking nowhere uh and i'm gonna revert i'm gonna refer to you on this one prequel to daymare 1998 uh daymare 1994 sand castle what the fuck do you know about daymare okay
Starting point is 02:34:40 daymare if i remember correctly was supposed to be the unreal engine hire this man resident evil fucking two remake that capcom went no no no no no no no no no no come on so they went okay we're gonna make our own game daymare 1998 because 98 is the year that resident evil two takes place um and i was recommended it because it's cool uh and then i went to play it and has one of the shittiest controls and worst looks of any of the horror games i've ever played but it is trying to do it and if they were i did not hear about daymare 1994 if it was daymare 1994 that would make it closer to resident evil one or alone in the dark even so there was a alone in the dark three there's a spark of effort and promise there is
Starting point is 02:35:38 there is a genuine spark of love here that is not enough to overwrite the the the howling wind of incompetence well um it's getting a prequel yeah uh there's a demo coming out today so uh check that out if if you want to know i just the name daymare is the kind of game that would have come out on day 23 of a shittstorm right and in fact that means anything to anybody well so when i heard the name when i saw that i was like didn't you guys talk about this at some point during a shittstorm i feel like i heard you talk about daymare at some point a couple years ago so probably uh yeah so daymare 1994 and then a trailer for soul hackers too that's crazy that's crazy where the fuck did that come from um soul hackers now no longer available
Starting point is 02:36:48 due to the 3ds library so here comes soul hackers too want to brush up on what happened in soul hackers one better go play it on playstation don't worry gang we'll hack these digimon so as someone who is still uh nascent and learning when it comes to uh the expended smt universe don't worry too much about it i'm not quite clearly i'm not but when something drops like this i go ah right okay i've heard of that that spinoff uh franchise um it does not look because like you know how all those old smt games are like doing the first person hallway yeah thing i don't imagine this is going to be doing that anymore well no it's it's
Starting point is 02:37:43 this is you're running around town this honestly looks like a sequel to fucking tokyo mirage sessions i mean a bunch of colorful characters hanging out doing the fight um so it's just like moving any of these franchises forward far enough and the f the first person aspects just get fucking tossed away hey somebody asks a question why is this even called soul hackers it looks like tms that's because they don't care what the fucking franchise said they just want to make the game and then they put the franchise label on it well there you go uh was strange journey the last first person i believe it was okay no uh no no no no it was it was apocalypse the apocalypse has moments right but like the battles are in first person yeah that's why but it's not the whole thing
Starting point is 02:38:39 you know but it harkens back in some aspects to it uh the game looks really good and it's kind of it kind of kills me when i look at this trailer and they're like wow this looks immaculate compared to sort of q2 okay what should be the standout smt5 because it's on a ps4 and a ps5 and it's not a jagged fucking poorly running piece of shit looking game soul hackers fan you know what game looks great in 4k what smt5 you know what's awesome about it in 4k2 what's that it also supports rollback that's what really what that's crazy for the non multiplayer feature um yeah so sequel sure to an ancient forgotten game on the 3ds oh i think it's actually older than that no it is it's from playstation one yeah but they
Starting point is 02:39:47 but i'm saying but they've re they brought it back on 3ds and now they've killed that so hey fuck off it's the perfect opportunity to just you know anyway i want to give a shout out to genuinely this soul hackers trailer for taking a lot of classic smt designs and just throwing a couple extra colors on them sure it's nice colors are good so speaking of uh throwing a couple extra colors on it i'm trying to avoid as much as i can seeing as i'm about to to dive right in but some footage of the ff6 pixel remaster has revealed that there is an opera scene with vocals in seven languages oh wow they're they're vocalizing it that's that's crazy and uh some there's a screenshot of the scene with some voxel
Starting point is 02:40:46 like 3d happening with a girl on a castle while she's singing so it looks like they're actually doing the triangle strategy-esque like full-on voxel 3d updates to the to the game um that's way more aggressive of an update than i thought these pixel remasters were doing it's it's the like the hd2d thing can range clearly from anywhere from the previous pixel remasters to octopath and triangle strategy but uh yeah what they just put out today is like they're adding vocals to this opera thing and um there's full-on 3d scenes ff6 gets more okay that's all that's all i could say is like ff6 gets and deserves more it gets to it gets to get more yeah okay yeah it's more special than the priors got it yeah it just like it just is
Starting point is 02:41:57 it's funny i was looking over my shelf yesterday and i pulled out a copy of uh final fantasy chronicles uh the collection that has chrono trigger playstation port on it as well as ff6 and uh i remember of course the infamous problems with chrono trigger uh because it added loading where there was none um oh dude it's such a bad fucking port like oh and it was and ultimately it's like you traded off for some animated cutscenes that are cool but uh it's a much more frustrating game to play um was that the same with the copy with the port of six yep same exact thing it's because it's a disc instead of cartridge okay did that's all this did they add animated cutscenes to that version too they added a cg cutscene at the start okay
Starting point is 02:42:51 huh well yeah the playstation 1 versions of all those games are bad oh yeah well dude i mean fucking go back to the the ps1 versions of kof and you have loading between rounds as each character has to jump in it's fucking painful it's one of the most painful things ever i think it's like 96 or 97 that you can play on ps1 and like you cannot KO somebody and then you have to wait like 30 seconds for your next partner to jump in um great yeah all right so we got some huge overhauls and updates for six then um i i hope deserves it i hope that they're overhauls that people don't like hate since this is what i'm committing to um they've been pretty well received so far aside from the font but a font model be out within like hours okay i think literally it's
Starting point is 02:43:52 just the font looks like a mobile game font that's it well what was what when when min explain that like it's literally the exact same artist that did the original pixel art just improving their work years later it's like that is as respectful as you can get yep you know what i mean like i can't imagine anything else like yeah uh okay and then lastly over here we've got the final fantasy 14 outline for the next 10 years uh live letter graphical update patch six point x series roadmap this is a big curious thing what you have down there because i i think the easiest way is for you to just roll it down and for me to to detail the bits that need elaboration yeah so um there's a literal timeline starting from 2010 uh that follows all the way till
Starting point is 02:44:54 and walker launched on december 7th um and then uh it goes into uh yoshida detailing the next 10 years of what they plan to do with the game starting with 7.0 yeah one of the more interesting things is every time he talks about this people are like are you quitting are you leaving and like unironically out loud said i would have to die to come off this project oh my god oh my god are you serious wow yeah he's like i plan for this to be my life's work holy shit i mean the fact that he loves and plays it like is a great sign for that dedication but the idea of someone having this ability uh and being a creative type that does not want to then try other shit is insane that's so nuts like every creator he also said that like he's basically also said that
Starting point is 02:45:58 the the CEO tries to change it he would like fight him like fight him that's crazy he's not because it's you know it's been this long time thing with a lot of franchises that like somebody comes along and is the driving personal force behind it and brings it into a certain state like let's say kajima with metal gear right if kajima left metal gear what do you get you survive right so people get nervous when the the the head leaves or the core team leaves the after and every time every two years at least he says basically you would have to stab me to get me to leave this office okay but clearly at some point probably it will be okay dude it's time to work on the literal next game that will just be the sequel to this one i don't know um they did that with 11
Starting point is 02:47:02 and for a good portion of 14's life that was a mistake no no no but but but there cannot not be a an endpoint like if the game industry i imagine uh if the game really when did world of warcraft come out mmo's can work in in decade long scale they serve yeah they can work in decade long scale um but like isn't there just a point where like the weight of the engine itself is just not gonna be able to handle what can be done so that's that's one of those things it's and this is kind of what we're talking about today is they are taking um they're taking resources to address technical debt on the engine okay and uh when ps4 gets deprecated they're gonna deal with some more of that technical debt and they're basically always always always working on the tech debt of
Starting point is 02:48:07 this old engine and this old engine is now a fucking frankenstein freak like they added direct x11 support and that was nuts just um i mean you understand that like i feel like i don't know i i i i'm always like i said i'm always new to this so my assumptions i'm i i'm well you know prepared to be like way off on but like the world will and like that like computers and tech and what's going on like things will change in such a degree at some point in our lifetime so that it has to become a weird legacy thing at some point okay so 30 years from now like what i'm gonna give you a very quick rundown of this you say that at some point it has to become a weird legacy issue you're right that point was six years ago this game has always had weird legacy technology
Starting point is 02:49:15 from the very first day a realm reborn came out they were taking q and a's and people were asking like uh if i have my chocopo out why can i queue for duty finder and the answer is because your chocopo is being listed internally as a party member and if you're a party if you're in a party you can't queue for a roulette because it says there's two people in the solo queue and then fucking 16 months later they fixed that okay and then they made it so that a chocopo doesn't count as a party member on the field a year later so you can have eight people in a party and eight party eight chocobos out and little little things like that every part of this game has been spaghettied forward and every expansion they don't tell us about it
Starting point is 02:50:20 but they have a whole they have like a couple guys in the back just fucking with it and cleaning it up there's a glamour plate system in the game where you assign looks to plates that you can equip so you can change between oh i want this outfit or this outfit that took like three years of frankensteining bullshit behind the scenes because of the way the original glamour system had been designed from one item to the next i just saw something that that cuts through all of this even to establish the point ff 11 is still getting updates oh yeah of course okay that's enough for me to now granted those updates are few and far between but that that yes that is enough for me to go okay no mmo's are different they last forever and they don't change and that's it okay so but
Starting point is 02:51:13 you are right i had there is that's that's crazy compared to every other genre but they're different they're not the same thing massive old engine problem it's constant they literally talk about it every two or three months because they get q and a's that are like how come this doesn't work like a real fucking video game and they go listen this thing is built on bullshit there was a fucking log out bug with n walker that they were only able to diagnose with fan help using sys tools to look at the god damn traffic and discovered that it was a network bug with the login screen dating all the way back to the beta of 1.0 that just never got fucking fixed wow okay um right yeah so yes you're completely right it is an ongoing constant battle the other thing
Starting point is 02:52:23 though is that like one clearly like so if this were um some wild indie bullshit community run situation like grawl i'd be like oh yeah that'll run forever because fucking people are you know yucking it up having fun with this ancient thing right yeah but even when the technical aspect is removed from the equation my brain also assumes that anything with a corporation influencing its its like decisions is going to also want to push new product at some point you know so the idea of like an everlasting game on a plot on any platform is anti corporate interest to just the and it's a subscription model for sure yeah um but i i just uh i feel like that's the other thing is to like at some point to like push a new thing because like they did it's called n walker yeah yeah well a whole
Starting point is 02:53:28 a brand new whole thing from the top but mmo's are different it's sold millions of copies and still brings in $15 a month from every single person like no no no no i i i get it i get it now now i understand like mmo's are not the same thing as anything else they're completely different this is a different thing now there will there will be a time at some point where they will have to change engines right and that is the time when like the crystal tools whatever bullshit they're using becomes like incompatible with like modern computing because but that's far away because i imagine that if you take like most companies giant game companies and most games that have a very still active long lasting online community but maybe not necessarily one that pays monthly
Starting point is 02:54:16 you're gonna find a point where they're like time to sell it again right um time to but they do um um now like does everything with a subscription then kind of have this like literally an uh infinite tail end like possibly if it's good yeah if it's good or it has inertia so wow currently i would say that most people would say that it's not that great but what it has is inertia and that inertia is uh time spent and it's also social right it's outside of itself right think of how long people were playing third strike now you didn't have to buy a new copy of third strike but people play fucking third strike for 10 extra years oh yeah oh no it make no mistake there's no part of this that i think is uh the player like not being willing to play the same
Starting point is 02:55:10 thing i mean i i do that myself we've been we spent all day talking about like how much we love the old thing i'm just surprised at like at a corporate level the willingness to just let a thing stay for literally forever at a at a person dude it's it's the most profitable things square enix makes it pays for everything else square enix makes and it's running on bullshit why not just keep it going because because they tend to not follow the ideal in many cases of if it's broke don't fix it a lot of the time yeah but like they could have kept going with ff 11 right and they're like now we're gonna make 14 and that was a disaster yeah okay no i i i understand what i did not understand before this i i i i can see that it's
Starting point is 02:56:05 like it's okay no this is this is also it's also something where they've cornered out wow and everyone else so this unique example is also very particular for this company because um i don't know if the same could be said of like um i don't know so the same could be said of something like eve online which has insane life lifelong players you know but maybe not for something like um guild wars which has the nah like no subscription but you got to buy the new thing every every now and then right so let me uh let me um let me break it down for you okay is in a completely different example um what why do they release a madden every year oh because they can sell a new copy to a sucker right and madden doesn't have any subscriptions
Starting point is 02:57:03 right it's just madden yeah it's a roster update okay well guess what there is less difference between each individual copy of madden than there is in the patches of 14 which makes madden a six dollar a month the subscription game mm-hmm there's fake features that often get introduced like oh you can now stiff arm with the c-stick but it's not yeah it's whatever you know like yeah right and there's no they don't feel the need to make a new madden they say they are mm-hmm but that's not been true for like fucking 20 years um and they treat the coverage like sports illustrated covers as well you know like this whole this whole thing to that about the the 10-year plan of the tech debt and all that stuff literally this live letter addressed
Starting point is 02:57:51 the elephant in the room so i read pretty much every interview i can get my hands on about this game and going back to storm blood there were a couple questions about hey dude this game came out in 2013 and it's 2017 now it's starting to look a little rough are you guys ever gonna put better graphics or maybe textures and the response was generally we know will someday have to increase that but we're still supporting older consoles so that'll be far in the future then before shadow bringers they get asked hey it's now 2019 are you guys thinking about updating the graphics for the future like world of warcraft changed its character models or ever quest put out a texture pad and they say not right now but we are well aware that at some
Starting point is 02:58:50 point the graphics will have to change and we have people on the team actively looking into the feasibility right okay and walker comes out and the same questions get asked and now the answer is i don't have anything to talk about okay because the live letter set for three months after the end of and walker is okay guys we are going to be updating the graphics now there are two problems with the graphics in ff 14 in terms of updating them number one is the fucking characters have a maximum resolution that can be applied to them that has been a technical issue going back like you can see it on characters that are very detailed like the crystal x arc there are literally only a certain amount of pixels that the engine will allow to be displayed on them
Starting point is 02:59:51 right so that clearly has been fixed or is in the process of being fixed the second of which and this is the biggest problem by far is that yoshi p answered an interview before shadow bringers listen we understand that you want to increase the textures however we didn't make high res textures and then scale them down for the models we made 512 by 512 textures there is no higher level master to just slap on the textures have literally always just been made at this size upper limit yeah so we will have to make new ones and that's a lot well they're doing it and they're saying well it's not gonna take it's gonna be how about our team it's uh it's gonna be in steps so well i'm gonna send you a photo i don't
Starting point is 03:00:53 know if you've seen any of the photos uh that they showed off yeah i'm looking at the article no i want you to look at the photo i sent you not the article that's the one at the top of the article no it's not that oh my one that i sent you yes the one that i sent you was the first screenshot they pulled up of a photorealistic style unreal engine for midlander with pores and sweat and he looks gross and then they said this is not what we want to do okay they actually did the hire this man and then said we're unreal and then it was like no so like not this the alloy like uh facial fluff hair yeah and then went uh uh that's and then they went okay and then they showed off comparative images of uh keeping the same art style it's a little cleaned up the shaders
Starting point is 03:01:57 on the eyes are a lot nicer stuff like that um the thing about it they're like okay so we're gonna start with the most popular so all the characters that your player can be they're gonna get updated all the most popular pieces of gear that people wear they're gonna get updated first and they said basically that the game is maybe going to start to look like this is my paraphrase it's going to start looking like a yakuza game in which you can start to tell what NPCs are important because they're gonna look a full generation ahead in graphics they're going to be characters that uh they're just not gonna get to on the first pass just not gonna get to there's gear that's just not gonna get hit on the first pass it's probably gonna take
Starting point is 03:02:51 like a year a year and a half the side-by-side comparisons of the old and new looks um i mean it looks like lighting changes more than like texture changes but like the so they're updating held on a gray background admittedly so they're being uh they're doing a texture change and the main thing is the resolution more so than the they're trying to keep the NPC stuff exactly the same they're going to be doing the resolution they're going to be doing a lot of lighting stuff the grass though lights the grass uh he actually tells a really great story about the grass because the grass is a really dramatic uh improvement in n walker there's a couple scenes and if you've seen the n walker um trailer uh there's a couple scenes that have to do with flowers and groups of flowers
Starting point is 03:03:40 and the grass is auto-generated and when they were building it there were a couple scenes in which yoshi p was looking at it and the auto-generated grass would be fucking hideous and it would be like one inch from the fucking lens of the camera and he was like get to disable the grass literally disable it for this shot get it out of here it looks like shit um so one of the big ups is like okay the auto-generated grass uh shit is going to be next on the docket then they're going to be doing uh they're going to be doing something called a displacement map it looks like where they're going to add more details more clutter to various areas just an overall all niceening so i guess then to reinvent that my question from the top um what what it is it
Starting point is 03:04:41 possible that like looking at this whole roadmap from 2010 version 1.0 all the way up to now uh the fucking thing is is serving to 25 million people um clearly that is enough of a reliable cash cow that you're going to want to sit on and not fuck up is it a situation where he himself has held back bullshit additions and attempts to like extra monetize and fuck up the thing himself possibly oh perfect example do you know what the very first thing said on this uh livestream was it was a minor news story during the mic check they're like by the way we're never going to add nft to this game stop asking okay okay because literally the first thing because it's like i i just i i hear the the like it's a thing that everybody likes and it's static and it lasts
Starting point is 03:05:45 forever until he dies i i i hear that but fucking corporation is going to do whatever it can anywhere it can on the thing that everyone is paying attention to and the urge to not fuck it up is something that most of the time a board room cannot resist you know no he's the guy's got i forget what he is but he's like a he's not just the director and producer of this he's not just the director of 16 i think he has a third role as some science is he is he also on the board type of thing like i believe he is yeah okay because when you get like in a fune level where you're in he has the he has the the he's a vice president okay on the and he's on the board so yeah he has the clout to just shut everybody the fuck down okay and his division makes the most
Starting point is 03:06:36 money out of all the divisions so he's he's good for now uh so he's also simultaneously involved with uh 16 yeah and so is uh some of the heavens were team Jesus christ i believe and uh this hasn't been so the writer of heavens were just writing 16 um and um no one can confirm this but Final Fantasy 14 players listen to a lot of Final Fantasy 14 music while they're playing Final Fantasy 14 and i can tell you with a certain certainty that um that's soaking doing the music as well and i believe people are saying that koji fox is also doing some of the the english on it so like it's it's do you want to Final Fantasy who's also said that this is didn't he say the composers say like this is his life project music oh yeah 100 fucking hundreds of songs and yeah okay
Starting point is 03:07:40 for a bit there it was literally going to be his life's work well yeah when he was in the hospital um so yeah the the the technical debt and this like yeah no they're they're working on it this this expand this next expansion is gonna be we're working on the bullshit way that characters are shown the way shaders work the way shadows work the and this is stuff that is currently not in the engine they're bolting onto it um and it looks nice they said they they're maintaining they're trying to make it so that your character changes their appearance as little as possible um it's had this weird effect when you know character models get updated in mmo occasionally your character turns into garbage like the eyebrows change or the ears change and you're like oh wow
Starting point is 03:08:36 this looks like shit see the other thing that um projects like this are vulnerable to is like uh if you're a console player at some point when the console dies slash when they kill the online capabilities of that you are forced to play on pc um no you're not you're forced to buy the no console and then they and then play the port over to that yep when they do that yeah okay ps3 to ps4 to ps5 so far yeah okay speaking of uh that they actually said that um uh they're gonna work very hard to optimize this for ps4 and they're gonna make it so that it doesn't break your computer but if it does you can turn it off so that's nice that's damn you can like people can literally boot up a ps3 and someone can boot up a ps4 and someone can boot up a ps5
Starting point is 03:09:37 and you can all be oh no no ps3 and ps5's uh use of the game never overlapped oh okay okay okay okay the way the way that it works is that ps3 gets deprecated i forget when it was i think with storm blood and then ps5 comes out and then they put out a port for ps5 halfway between a you know expansion cycle and then uh they will deprecate the ps4 probably in two and a half years okay well like the the the next expansion will likely be ps4 is left so the so then the console things are still like limited by the consoles themselves the pc is the only one that's actually a forever game yeah yeah okay all right got it and they actually killed the mac version entirely which is kind of a bummer hmm but uh oh well um wow so that's all that that graphics stuff which is nice but there
Starting point is 03:10:32 was other stuff in there of note to people that don't currently play ff14 uh let's see here large scale updates to the trust system trust compatibility for all main scenario dungeons and four player trials to be added at 6.1 to 6.5 okay so i'm gonna stop you there that is uh written for people that already play ff14 for people that don't play ff14 trusts is a system in which you go i don't want to play with humans give me some robots to clear this dungeon and they'll let they will help you clear the dungeon basically what they're saying is that over the next year and a half maybe two years maybe on the next expansion they're going to start adding enough ai controlled support for everything mandatory in the entire
Starting point is 03:11:32 single-player game so that outside of optional shit you will have a single-player game for yourself to play with very rare exceptions that's pretty smart they've said that they want to improve it as a multiplayer game and that's obvious i mean it's an mmo but they also want to make it so that people who don't want to play an mmo but do want to play ff14 will be able to play ff14 as a single player game yeah because uh you know i mean the way like everyone has talked about this is definitely one where it's like even if you're anti like mmo or not anti but like even if you're like mmo kryptonite it's like yeah but the plot though right so now somebody in the chat says why not just play an actual single-player game at that point because
Starting point is 03:12:23 i want to play this one because it's good bro also and this is interesting to people who already i'm at the end of n walker right what do i care if the old stuff is single player well actually there's a bunch of characters that they're going to add back into these things that i want to see what the fuck they say in dungeons i want more excuses to hang out with characters like hoary boulder and kultane i want harshify to come with me on the level 57 dungeon for obvious reasons to everyone in the chat or who's listening to this at home has done the level 57 dungeon is this the only game that has announced and actually adhered to a 10-year roadmap yes destiny's coming up in 18 months
Starting point is 03:13:22 again i always assume somewhere out there some people are huddled in a dark room with eve online burnt onto their monitors like reading some updates and freaking the fuck out over over whatever is getting dropped you know yeah i always assume there's always someone ready to fucking put that fucking cloak you're wearing on and then play some eve yeah they've had uh they they've been really blunt every time an expansion comes out and like hey how far ahead do you guys plan the story and they're like we have the story planned more or less out to 6.0 and they've been saying that since like storm blood so 6.0 is what just happened and that was like four and a half years ago bathroom hold that thought uh oh
Starting point is 03:14:15 all right we're good thumbs up all right all right uh yeah they're gonna they're there's gonna be a point at some point in the next couple years where the announcement's gonna come down hey gamers do you not want to play an mmo but you want to play the critically acclaimed final fantasy 14 with the free access up to level 80 with the critically acclaimed shadow bringers expansion like whatever the fuck it is at that point uh you as a single player game yeah you can do it there's no excuse now shut up i mean if one were to play it as a single player game beat it and then stop until the next thing dropped like you could do that in a month couldn't you i'm sorry what if you wanted you think you could get through i don't know i don't know i don't
Starting point is 03:15:10 okay okay um if you're hinronobu sakaguchi you can mainline ff 14 on your vacation if fucking matsuno is willing to carry you through dungeons in about 60 days if all you do all day is have classic final fantasy design team members drag you through the story as fast as possible okay i'm assuming by the way shout out to sakaguchi he's like i'm done with this game i'm going on vacation what about that ff 14 and he caught up to fucking endwalker in like 50 days
Starting point is 03:16:08 i'm assuming that like with that whole ai thing there's a whole lot of uh you know optional inside things that like you would choose to do or not do i guess i don't know what you are saying okay the feature rolled out here is for if people want to play the game with by themselves with yes okay yeah are there a giant list of mainline quests and then a giant list of side quests and that oh uh quests okay i got you side quests main quests quests in general are all solo as of right now all of them okay the only thing that's not is dungeons and trials which is a four man or an eight man dungeons and trials are the things that are going to have trusts added to them which is it fills your party up for the dungeon and or boss fight and do dungeons
Starting point is 03:17:11 and or trials are are those a part of the mainline story um yes okay all right so you have to go through ifrit then you got to go through titan then you got to go through garuda etc etc now there's a couple things that will never happen with this there's a an alliance raid called crystal tower which is mandatory and a crystal tower requires 24 people okay however crystal tower is a joke even right now like you can literally floor tank it be dead the whole way through and people will carry you through it okay i mean that would be kind of lame but you'll be fine at some point you're gonna you're gonna start running into people who are well if they played the whole game with no other humans then you won't run into them actually yeah yeah okay did my volume no yeah
Starting point is 03:18:07 did am i quieter than i was before i left not to me but i don't know about them okay well that means there's no device change so that's good all right hey somebody in the chat points out something really good problem is you'd never learn your job though don't worry buddy there are people who've cleared every single piece of content in their game and are still trash there is almost no overlap between what the game forces you to do and what actually comes out at the end it's almost entirely due to player intention do you care then you'll get good do not care then you'll be bad as we've just talked about with sifu progress does not necessarily indicate skill that's true that is minimum and then there's uh you know doing it right
Starting point is 03:18:58 but yeah they're making the game fancy nice and they're gonna make it so that you can play it as a single player game which is uh for an mmo really ambitious do they do they uh do the do the pride does the price ever go up no in fact the way that it works so you know how mmo's get this weird problem of like how many expansions am i buying dude right the way ff 14 does it is kind of weird um when you buy ff when you buy ff 14 and go i want to play ff 14 and i don't want the free trial i would like to purchase this you get every single expansion except for the one that just came out okay so you're always buying at least the latest thing so if you were buying ff 14 right now off
Starting point is 03:19:52 the store and not end walker you would get a realm reborn heaven's word storm blood and shadow bringers and you would not have end walker okay and then you would go buy end walker so the the the price to get in has been minimized all like as much as possible and it's always the same it's one update plus the whole thing yeah you you get the you get the game and then you play through it and you go if you hit the fucking ass end of that and go oh i would actually really like to continue going into the new expansion grab the new expansion and that is $60 and it's called the complete whatever um because people are saying they okay they just added end walker to that okay so well there you go so it's 60 bucks to all of it
Starting point is 03:20:50 uh the price of a Nintendo game let's take yeah oh wow is that crazy let's take some letters hey wow i didn't even oh that's good that's real good that's real good um if you you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail gmail.com that's castle super beast mail gmail.com all right here's one coming in from rod says hey punch dad and grappler orb with uh 15 coming out uh k-15 i'm coming out i'm faced once again with my biggest goblins character crisis so bad it keeps me up at night the characters are cool and fun to play and i spend upwards of months torturing myself uh trying to pick a main team especially if um it's especially worse for team games because i have so many more options uh have you ever
Starting point is 03:21:54 liked so many characters that you felt that you had a severe case of character crisis that keeps you from actually playing absolutely and i play all of them until i figure out which ones i'm complete trash at and then stop playing those ones uh yeah i mean i'm kind of going through it right now but there is it depends on how much you care like if you're just playing um you know to just pick the ones you like and and have fun with that um that's this is less relevant but if you want to like also kind of get a bit better at the game one thing that might help you if you're having a team crisis is to look at the positions that characters are generally useful in right so uh ko f has had uh has a bunch of characters but they serve different purposes some of them
Starting point is 03:22:47 are good as anchors that you use last on the team who are going to be really um really high damaging but they use a lot of meter right so a good anchor uh is going to also need someone who it's someone who is a battery who will build all that meter who you can use to without spending a ton of of exes and stuff like that uh for your anchor and then there's other types so um if the characters you like can complement each other by fitting into the different archetypes of like you know anchor battery control middle and or in some cases there's like any slot characters as well um that can help you by like just eliminating redundant things if you have a team of three anchors you're probably gonna notice that you know uh you'll
Starting point is 03:23:36 have a harder time getting stuff done with them so it's it's it's a thing you can consider uh to get a good idea of that i think you could just google um ko f 15 character positions to see like the the the current discussion of that and then like you can see where they break down because there's tier lists and then there's like just recommendations for you know what each person's job should be ko f should probably consider telling you that because it does matter in the end you'll notice some people will often put x first or x last because of that like ralfile who i love i've always played a manker anyway because he's just he's my main but um in this game especially he is part of why he's so good is because if you have meter to use with him
Starting point is 03:24:24 you can melt anybody um but with no meter you don't get to do that as as easily just put cell in the back dude so just put cell in the back uh yeah just google uh character positions and function ko 15 and then you'll you'll see the list and it'll it'll it has the roster grouped up and then you can start thinking about like okay one for each slot to compliment your team alternatively just get really good at every character well yeah but even then you still have to pick uh let's take one over here from kason who says uh greetings getting into the woolly holes and pats there's an orb i was wondering do you guys have games that you've played once and have no desire to go back to
Starting point is 03:25:22 not that the game is bad but the whole thing was a tight well wrapped up experience that you don't want to unwrap again um i asked because i finally bought death stranding director's cut and after playing a little bit of the new content i realized there wasn't a lot keeping me there most of what i was seeing was stuff i'd done before and it didn't really hit me uh like the second time uh as it did the first compared it to big movies like pearl harbor or tartanik where they're great with a lot of handiwork and labor but it takes a labor to revisit them and uh you're not going to be as immersed as immersed as you were the first time um maybe one day i'll play director's cut death stranding but um yeah i'm happy with the memories i already made with it uh i i relate to that for
Starting point is 03:26:05 some things um i am i cannot get the energy to go through p5 royale i know there's a lot of new stuff and i know some of it is significant i know that some of things like literally are like improving character arcs i know that some of it is like new characters and it's a whole lot but the journey was so big that i just can't think of putting the time aside to go through all of that and missing out on what i prioritize which is new should i haven't seen uh both outer wilds and its dlc um a way out uh near automata
Starting point is 03:27:02 what's what's the ones that jump to me like super hard what just got updated with a significant um integrate ff7 integrate yeah um well that's a little different because the yufi stuff is brand new and it's a separate thing can you just jump straight to that without oh yeah it's a separate campaign oh shit okay i thought it was buried in and like integrated no no no into the main you would fucking think right well shit i i was misled okay yeah were you misled by nothing by i guess the name uh yeah i thought it was i thought it was like new version plus new stuff you know that was that that wasn't i didn't think it was it so it was a solo campaign
Starting point is 03:28:04 thing okay um yeah there's a lot of games that way any game that that that that finishes itself off with a like uh uh what i'm gonna call a complete thematic conclusion feels final i apologize for the unforgivable mistake holy shit so like near automata is an incredible game but i'm never gonna do ending e ever again the same way that i did the first time not even close oh 13 sentinels boy i never want to play 13 sentinels ever again yeah one of my favorite games of all time yeah i will never go back to it what a great game all right don't want to play it anymore
Starting point is 03:29:13 or even if it's ported to the switch i'll buy it and not the pc girl oh okay um yeah hey wait a second if it's coming to the switch it is coming to the pc okay all right oh my keyboard anyway moving on um some of y'all need to chill the fuck out there you got a little got a little unreasonable there for a second i was i was looking at the the fucking chat um
Starting point is 03:30:07 anyways let's take one over here from uh brian who says howdy folks you guys discussed the design challenge of helping new players choose who to start with in a new game and with multitudes of options like in league of legends and such there's difficulty picking the characters well pokemon mystery dungeon has a fun solution to this problem rather than professor oak letting you decide which pokemon you want to adventure with your character in mystery dungeon is you so you take a buzzfeed personality quiz and then the game asks you a series of questions ultimately deciding which starter pokemon aligns with your personality um and sometimes gender which is a bit lame while this isn't an exact
Starting point is 03:31:04 solution that translates to all games i do like the idea of presenting players with a personality with a series of small choices and using those to nudge the minute direction would you like to play support or damage do you want to swarm or have small units or devastate with massive ones and what kind of pokemon are you so yeah that's an interesting thing um i am thinking of of course like i like the idea of that as a like possibility of like nudging you over uh to um a direction while still giving you the ability to you know break out and choose if you'd like because there was that for example there was that jojo game uh the seventh stand user where you did a personality test and then there's a there's ways to just like figure out
Starting point is 03:31:52 what the answers are and get the one you wanted ultimately but you do it the first time certainly and then you you get whatever is generated but then after that you're just going to use the um the quick answers to to to to tutorialize the process of getting the one you want so i think a series of sliders yeah and and then you go uh i want snorlax and you look up the answers you got to say to get fucking snorlax because that kind of shit is bullshit exactly exactly so it shouldn't be the old it shouldn't be a hard rule that's the only thing you can rely on but it would be fun to add something like that as a as a an option you know there's something about uh in new vegas there's like a personality test of like violence answer yes or no you know truth
Starting point is 03:32:38 it's like violence just ain't my nature and it's like strongly agree strongly disagree you know there's like 15 of those questions and that's supposed to determine your skill uh like if you're good at medicine or guns or whatever and then the doc just goes oh you just put whatever the fuck i mean i just i mean you just do whatever like they give you your suggested and you just change it you change whatever the fuck you want uh right and last one here uh from um did you give a tag no you didn't harry says dear willy and pat i was listening to last week's podcast with the everhood and the message of the need of death in our lives and it got me thinking about the portrayal of immortality as a curse in fiction you'd think not aging and
Starting point is 03:33:28 being able to live as long as you want would be a great thing but often immortality is a curse more than a blessing the origins of this are most likely from Faust uh and the moral of the human being that needs to accept their current reality in order to find personal satisfaction a fine moral but it's become overplayed as a trope in fiction to the point that the concept of eternal life itself is a negative quality um that uh and that the immortal should always want death unless they're a villain uh i think the only noticeable subversion i can think of is the chapter of Sandman you okay sorry see people in the chat like going like pat's charging up it's like every time immortality comes up i get i get like visibly excited by the conversation a good example
Starting point is 03:34:21 of a subversion of this yeah was in a chapter of Sandman and then they give a link to a conversation that takes place in Sandman where um dream is talking to an immortal who is talking about all the pains of life but then in the end goes so you want to die then and he's like fuck no living's awesome yeah um so uh yeah the moral of value is being placed on human and accepting your place often comes across to me is either preachy or sour grapes away the author and the reader find some acceptance of our mundane short and fragile lives the need to value and accept our place as human beings shows up a lot in fiction and is often in many annoying forms for example a person isekai into a magic world decides to stay in the real world and live a normal life
Starting point is 03:35:10 the superhero with cool powers bemoans their fate and just wants to be normal the hyper intelligent far superior alien race is defeated because they can't comprehend human emotion mechanical augmentation and other forms of transhumanism are depicted of as as a negative thing to have have you often encountered this trope in fiction and has there been a case that particularly annoyed you uh that's on point there's a good bit of all of them yep that's all of that all of that is very frequent and like many many many times the core message the author is trying to get across being human is the best and it's awesome i am i am profoundly uh against like war of the worlds is a sci-fi classic because it scared the shit out of people
Starting point is 03:36:00 but war of the worlds is message of the aliens were too stupid not to know what germs are is maybe the fucking stupidest cop out in the fucking history of sci-fi hmm like aliens that can fucking travel like hundreds of millions of fucking light years and don't know to fucking put on a suit on a completely alien play give me a fucking break or how about the one where they were where uh they're allergic to water the thing that is made of oh that most of the country the most of the planet and and the population not just the planet um yeah i i i i mean that's i think that message encapsulates a whole lot of that stuff because it is true that like there's there's a very constant need to find a way to be like
Starting point is 03:36:46 you know uh let's reframe the state that like it seems like it would be better to be better than human but what you don't realize is the pain that comes with it right and yeah like depends on what your ultimate message is and what you're trying to tell that can be done in a compelling way or a convincing way or an interesting way um you know i think i think um for example like near tell some incredible stories that like their impact is tied to the idea of the fact that this is a repetitive process um that re that cycles over and over and over again looking for any variable in each one right um i think the uh but but yeah when it comes to stuff like i've ever heard of course that there's a like again there's a buy-in that requires you to be
Starting point is 03:37:37 on the same viewpoint as the person putting that that story out into the world uh i'm gonna i'm gonna just repeat what i said and when we talked about that and say that like there's value in in someone trying to communicate the personal story of like accepting death as a positive and accepting death as a thing that you should be comfortable with uh i once again reference the midnight gospel as an as a really good druggy ass cartoon uh that talks about all of these subjects and then like has them central to the core and takes you on a very powerful journey as to why it's important to become familiar with death um but you can't you can't be the one that that decides for other people you know um yeah it is very tropey though it is i agree it doesn't
Starting point is 03:38:32 always execute poorly but now that you've pointed it out especially i feel like i'm gonna every time it's like oh my god the humans are the craziest of all the aliens because they have hearts soul or some other thing we can't figure it out you know something that's special spark yeah that human what it means the spark of life and spark of life is a really good analogy because of flame and the history with the intelligence and the metaphor for flame the dark soul it's the dark soul that we share i mean uh this is an easy segue into what i wanted to start talking about which is like the this is an obvious question uh well you are being set up for a philosophical treaties on the endless life like you literally couldn't have been more perfectly
Starting point is 03:39:24 planned with uh Silent Hill followed by Everhood followed by Elden Ring which is another nihilistic fantasy setting made by From Software which depicts the the type of infinite life as inhuman and unnatural as a perversion of the natural order now Vati was able to pull out in the network test one of the details that appears to be occurring in Elden Ring is that not only is eternal life unnatural but it appears that the unfortunate unintended side effect of that is that no the propagation of life also no longer works so it's it's entropy to another degree you can't create it now if you're gonna talk about immortality right i think we can all possible uh all talk about the old-fashioned shit of the i forget what greek dumbass it was but it's like i want to live forever
Starting point is 03:40:24 and they're like you might want to ask for eternal youth too right okay infinite life without some form of agency or your body bodily control is obviously gonna completely suck fucking shit right like it's gonna be awful you're gonna curl into a tiny little old man become like a the fucking rock or something okay no no one's ever talking about that right you're talking about eternal life you're talking about eternal life from i don't know your 20s to your 40s in a preserve forever in a preservation form yeah okay here's the thing there's obviously two real big trains of thought on this and they pretty much break down to east versus west east has a lot of religious and philosophy about cyclical natures uh life reincarnation the natural order etc life
Starting point is 03:41:13 is a continuous process which does make more sense to like a biological actual thing of you know the mandala system right over in the west uh death uh has traditionally been viewed as linear you're born you die you are judged by whatever deity you have available and something does or doesn't happen to you and this like affects people's perceptions of death right as a continuous process or as a state of finality um in Faust all these other things about eternal life it's just a natural oh living too long sucks you get all sad and shit but everybody who lamented their endless life who lived from like the year 1400 to the year 2000s a fucking pussy shit got better okay shit got way better we have a tv now i'm playing games on my playstation food's good
Starting point is 03:42:12 you ever screw somebody it feels good on your weiner that feels good quit crying quit crying about it oh boo hoo i live forever it feels good living forever is portrayed in a lot of fiction the way rich people talk about getting rich is in the real world of don't get rich man it'll ruin your life how about i figure that out for myself conye the burden yeah yeah yeah teflon billy points out correctly everyone you've loved died guess what the vast majority of people in their lives will see most of their loved ones die anyway i miss my grandma i loved her dearly she is gone one day my mom and dad will pass long before me it sucks i have i'm a person who loves to have pets i have a dog and a cat they will assuredly pass before me watching people pass on without i've
Starting point is 03:43:14 had co-workers who've passed away i had people i knew in school who passed away it sucks you would be lit if that didn't happen that'd be great oh no you can't have the self-actualization of starting family because of overpopulation and the caring capacity of the earth uh oh but no one you ever know will die oh bummer oh it's not natural neither is a single thing about your life every single fucking thing you do in your life is unnatural to the quote-unquote natural order of things but the computer you're using to argue with me on appeal to the past though appeal to the way it was and also bonus certain types of jellyfish will literally recreate their own cells in a younger state and are functionally immortal anyway so immortality isn't even actually unnatural
Starting point is 03:44:12 it's just really hard yeah with all that being said you get a good robot to put me in give me another thousand years i'll sign myself up give me that give me that shit if we got doctors and rocket scientists that listen to this podcast if you guys got a fucking robot for me i'll i'll fucking ditch anything i'm not doing anything tonight put me in put me in a robot if we stare at lobsters long enough we can probably learn a thing or two they're the ones that just keep growing until the they can't sustain oh a lot of stuff does that crocodiles and alligators do that too it's like they're not actually aging it's just the mechanics failing this is getting bigger and then the inverse
Starting point is 03:44:56 square law kicks in yeah but you know no it's it's bad because it's unnatural because we say so and you know what it sounds like to me just accept it you know what immortality is unnatural sounds like to me sounds like the writing of people in their 60s knowing it's too late for them and gone well if i have if i you know i'm not gonna get my youth back so fuck you kids pay your student loans asterisk as long as you don't get carsed well i think i think everybody can agree that the the best possible thing is live forever but not being invincible right so that it can't it can end yeah the earth blows up okay fine you're not
Starting point is 03:45:57 gonna be floating in space forever yeah yeah heat death of the universe you continue to exist the not great you know yeah okay immortality would occur you should play that you should play you should play the game i think uh you should i'd just be screaming i'm so glad i dodged it i'm so glad i dodged it man at the bottom would oh man such a time playing it dude like oh fuck off if you pull that out of your pocket just now slightly prompted you would have a hell of a time with it i think about this a lot i i can see that i can see that all right well let's end it on that note everybody we'll see you next week bye
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