Castle Super Beast - CSB 175: Four Billboards Outside Of Balmung

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Don't forget to subscribe Let me ask you if I'm looking at a turn right like an fgc tournament or you know, whatever and it's this prize pool That's not the grand prize. That's the total amount of money associated for you know Top three or top or top eight right? Oh, uh, you're Cutting in and out a little bit unfortunately. Um, oh am I okay? We're gonna Yeah, I think it's well, I'll keep an eye on it sounds a bit Better towards the end there
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah prize pool generally means the amount associated with all pricing for Probably the top eight and any bonuses that were announced Okay, so if you had a prize pool of Let's say five grand and And that's split eight ways Down the line, but like what are we looking at for first or second like a thousand bucks? Everyone does it everyone does it differently, but like you know, I mean the events I used to run were 70-20-10 for top three
Starting point is 00:01:45 But the bigger the tournament the more you would accommodate for top eight because it's obviously You know, okay, so double down happen, and I think like fourth place was like $75 in what? In double down at I'm not sure if it was ultimate or if it was Melee. I think it was Melee It was like 75 bucks Okay At so what would like at double down which happened this weekend double down I'm just like I'm just I'm just sitting here. Oh people are confirming that. Okay. Yeah, that was for melee fourth play, and I'm just sitting here like
Starting point is 00:02:28 Man, that doesn't even like even if you live in the town that's happening in that doesn't even cover like gas probably Yeah, I mean it depends like sometimes It depends sometimes the the depending on the event and the people that enter like if you get Like getting top eight means essentially getting your registration back, you know, right? Okay So it's like it's it's a prestige thing instead of a win unless you get number one and then you get maybe a couple thousand dollars Right things there. There are things like that some other places again like if it's if it's a particularly large event you can sometimes get like
Starting point is 00:03:09 50-20 and then 1732 right on the line, you know So like like at best in a five grand prize prize pool, you're getting like 3500 bucks kind of thing and number two would get like 1000 tops I'm just we're using ballpark. Yeah, and hold you to no, no, no standard here Let's say let's say let's say ballpark 2% for if we're getting top eight. Okay in in some great situations so How much do you
Starting point is 00:03:49 raise this If you went to a Tournament and you were pretty sure you were gonna get top eight, but you don't think you were gonna win So you're looking at maybe getting 80 bucks and the guy sitting next to you is Clearly hiding a zombie bite Right how valuable is That 75 bucks gonna actually be perhaps not very valuable at all Perhaps not
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah, let me ask you a completely hypothetical question that has nothing to do with anything You have run tournaments you've run you've run a bunch of events before code for example, right like way back in the day You were you you were involved or at the very least you were involved in the management of them, right? If you were sitting there and a guy came in for let's say loser's bracket To maybe fight their way back to top eight and you're like, hey, dude, you don't look so good Mm-hmm, and they're like, it's cool, man. I just got out the ER. I've been vomiting blood all morning That would be weird even five years ago, right? Yes, that would be no
Starting point is 00:05:17 Strange no even in even in pre-covid times. It would be a concern. I mean Look, I like all and I'll say this too. Haven't having seen some of what we're discussing here where Yeah, coughing up blood was was The the symptom here, which again, it seems like that can be a reaction to COVID if it is normal for you to have like Let's say stomach ulcers and you cough up blood on a regular basis and that's expected That's one thing. That's certainly to be expected But if you are otherwise not having that problem and then that suddenly arises
Starting point is 00:06:03 Alongside a suggestion from a medical professional that you might have it then yes, you should probably take that seriously so spoiler to the to everyone who doesn't know what we're talking about there's actually No hypothesizing or hyperbole happening in this story at double down this week one hungry box Jigglypuff player woke up in the morning before losers bracket and just started vomiting and coughing up blood all over and Then rushed himself to ER in which a doctor told him. Yeah, dude That's probably the coronavirus or at least a really bad bacterial infection
Starting point is 00:06:53 Which are also contagious and he said, you know what doc? You you just fill my ass with steroids and I'm gonna go down to the attorney and Play for three hours so that I could gate keep people out of losers and then leave Oh, but I forgot my mask at home because I don't wear it. Yeah, so You just like like it's it's really fucking just It's it's really annoying because it's the type of event that all of these so as like Things are starting events are starting to kind of happen again, and you know some places are going all-in some places are going small Things are kind of going but you you need and generally everyone is being
Starting point is 00:07:41 Put on the same page to be like, hey, can we all kind of Look out for each other and do this in as much of a possible responsible way as we can and In order for that to be the case everyone has to kind of be on the same page with At well for example like you you want to talk about like cleaning stations and general You know cleanliness and masks and stuff. That's all an understood stated rule Coughing up blood and going to the hospital and getting hard confirmation and then going now We're still gonna go through with it is beyond the pale insane You know like it just that's the like
Starting point is 00:08:23 COVID it could be to book Typhoid or cholera or It could be severe gastrointest Right, it could like yeah, like it's just it's like as you're getting There's anyway There's just there's a there's a bare minimum that everyone is being asked to participate with and like that goes so far beyond the pale I can't even fucking fathom the And then of course, you know, that's also where it would come down to event organizers and anyone around to be like
Starting point is 00:08:57 No You know so yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna over the fact that hungry box is like a complete fucking stupid piece of shit I think I think we've actually covered that fairly well in the long years of covering smash events But like the event organizers had a massive list of rules that required like masking and vaccination status and all this shit And then one of when a top eight guy comes in they just go I want rules I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, no you can't You can't you can't do it that way man. Um, I mean I So this like and this is interesting because like this exact weekend was a Montreal tournament and
Starting point is 00:09:42 I went this was my first one and I went I went to go check that out and I was like, okay, let's let's Let's take a look here and I was very satisfied and happy with how seriously they took everything and how much it Was pretty consistent. Everyone was wearing their N95s the entire time and stuff was pretty so that was you mad, right? That was you mad. Yes, okay? What games were there? So anime Tekken Some like obscure like there's some Gundam in there, you know, okay Was there smash event there wasn't there was not Wow, that's crazy
Starting point is 00:10:27 That's not That's it can't keep that's being like this. It can't keep being just the game decides the outcome No, what I mean? I mean sure, but I mean it can't just be so I'm not the one orchestrating these events. I Did I didn't make this happen for my own amusement? I I Try I try to find the a a a a oh My god. Yeah, anyway No, that makes it I think the ultimate irony here is Hungrybox was so mad that somebody threw a crab at him
Starting point is 00:11:17 But did that happen he is Yeah, that would happen at some event somebody threw a crab at him, okay some kind of stupid Boston shit but he's not mad that he spray like Infectious blood mist I Just you know what it is man. It's like I know what it's like for Like any any event organizer or anyone in this situation that is like trying to just like
Starting point is 00:11:50 Repair and not even repair an image like just cultivate a sane Community and tournament event, you know and like these and this type of shit just keeps fucking happening And it's like my god, man If it's not gonna if you're not gonna get like particularly influential especially players to like Just not be insane about this type of shit then you have to come down really heavy with the rules Like that that's that's it's one or the other right if it's if that type of shit happens It has the end of those the end of every one of these crazy stories needs to be so then the event
Starting point is 00:12:30 Organizers stepped in and said this is fucking crazy get out of here and that's sort of like the that's the only thing That to bookend the the fact that it's like okay this hot this weekend what happened at a smash event some crazy shit Please end the story with and then the to step in and what That's that's how every story has to end yeah, that's that's it's it's this weird thing It's like if you want to have a tournament you want to build up a certain amount of prestige for your organization So the people go to your tournament and like your tournament and it becomes like a thing like Fuck like double entrance see
Starting point is 00:13:08 Rules or throwing the match because your buddy and you'll split the pot and all that shit like Yeah, if you can't if you can't nail down Hey, this person's like drunk driving their car into the stadium And we won't ask them to leave or this guy came and had a gun During on him during all his matches It would put it people and go bang or just put it on top of the on top the TV You know like you put the money for the money
Starting point is 00:13:45 How are you supposed to have anybody have respect for anything at your fucking venue if you can't even handle like the first it's the huge page of Fucking pandemic rules for this place. He just didn't do nothing Yeah, no that fucking tournament sucks. No the the That's it. You either you just have to have that final say that is essentially Whatever the to says goes and even if it's if it's unfair or whatever the case is they're gonna make a judgment call for for hypothetical situations you can't possibly imagine such as
Starting point is 00:14:25 Blood on the GameCube, you know, and And if that were to happen then it's like hey, you'll get your will pay Pal you your money back. I Mean, hey, fuck out. That's the only that's the only play I'm gonna I'm gonna narrate this for those who can't see I'm holding up a red controller, right? Let's assume it's GameCube controller And I've been throwing up blood in the morning, right six hours ago and I eat anything With my hands and then I don't wash my hands and then I touch this controller
Starting point is 00:15:00 There's no blood on this controller. You can't see it It's all just a little bit of blood But there's blood on it now Here you go, man. Here's the set or the reset button on the cube or the chair that you did I'm gonna trust a smash player who won't wear a mask to wash his hands Scarlet rot Guys won't even wash their armpits or their balls Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:15:39 Okay, so so when When what is usually a hygiene issue becomes a biohazard issue because the hygiene is also the deterrent against infectious diseases I have a say. So the conversation changes in gravity and it no longer becomes about unpleasantness and it becomes about
Starting point is 00:16:06 Fucking keeping people safe. I mean all all all jokes aside Like we can we can argue. I mean everybody can argue about the masks thing and people don't want to wear them and my liberty and all that shit Whatever, let's sidestep that whole thing, right? The problem we've had with COVID is that it's asymptomatic and that's why you probably wear the mask regardless because you could transmit it Even though you don't know but what about people who are violently? Ill to the point where it's changing the course of their day. You mean. Oh, you mean hi. Do you mean a hyper symptomatic? Yeah, what about a person turbo symptomatic? Blood's not supposed to come out your mouth
Starting point is 00:16:58 Shin Shin turbo final symptomatic This is a person that would have been quarantined in the hospital ten years ago if they couldn't figure out what it was Yeah, oh my goodness. No, um, well not remember I'm just I'm thinking of the fucking Cloverfield girl. Oh Yeah, no totally. Yeah easy Um, I just the pop Yeah, hey, but remember guys. Hey Take it take a deep breath
Starting point is 00:17:35 Take a big sigh Well, I Made a big super fuck up today Time to tweet about it Time to get on Twitter and just write the whole thing down and go Hey, this is exactly what I'm doing right now I'm I'm what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna open up my Android notepad and write maybe a hundred words I'm big. Sorry. I did a super fucky. Wucky
Starting point is 00:18:07 My bee I now know in year three of a global pandemic that maybe I should Can't even I Can't dude Hungrybox sucks so bad. Okay, like I'm just posted a link to An apology where he says Essentially, I shouldn't think I'm above the rules Sorry, I'll be better and so on it's like well, I did a super fuck up I I just I hope that in the meantime no one fucking caught it from the insane Blood spatter
Starting point is 00:18:50 Explosion that it sounded like what like yeah, anyway, it just If it was like I had a mild Tingle in my throat and I thought about it and I was like, hey, let me go off the beat I was like, yeah, it'd be like I play it on the safe side man, you know, but whatever Yeah, but no, we're not talking about that. We're talking about Let me get that set whoo-ki-oh from samurai showdown. I can I can do it. No, I can do it. No, I'm good. I can I Could so the one the one like the one smile out of this I have to say Smash
Starting point is 00:19:27 Does now hold the the crown for the most filthy-ass grimy piece of FGC history in that Like Hungrybox goes to the event and risks maybe thousands of people's lives to gate keep dude out of Getting into loser's finals and then leaves I Don't know who s-fat is
Starting point is 00:19:57 But goddamn That's brutal Yeah, uh, I I can't understand them I would rather die and kill everyone in this room than see you advance To the finals of losers bracket. How dare you try to make it out of pools? Everybody's getting it Yeah, no, it's it's fucking insane. It's insane and it's and it's unfortunately also just an extension of that That like kind of it feels like an extension of that top prayer player privilege mentality that often comes up You know that that that idea of just like yeah, the you know rules for the and not for me
Starting point is 00:20:40 I'm a saw it doesn't oh, yeah, you know and I You know in discussing with other toos that that type of behavior like The the ones the friend the ones that I know that I'm friends with like we get excited to be able to dequeue Celebrities in those situations. Oh, dude. I mean, I don't run an event and I never have but I'm take a picture of your shocked Of your Pikachu face if you think you're above the rules. I get to I get to throw Marne out Can I get a big security guy that could pick him up off the floor? It's like it's just there's nothing Like there's I don't know what to tell you you're you're you're still entering just like everybody else
Starting point is 00:21:25 You're going through the pools like everybody else, you know, if anybody is Nearby are playing a second game. You're gonna go Hey, can you go let somebody know that like their pools are up? You're gonna take you're gonna give everyone the same common courtesies, but just yes That that the shocked Pikachu face of like what do you mean? I'm dequeued. I just went for lunch, bro I can't I just went dequeued. We just went for lunch. It's like yes You were gone for an hour and a half after your pool started Yeah, you played your first match and then you went to go eat lunch
Starting point is 00:21:56 The fuck did you think what happened? So you're so wait for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so no That's that's always a good time that guy that guy sat there for half an hour waiting for you to show up. That's that oh Anyway, I God Smash never stops given well, what a what a hey what a great game filled with great players Thankfully, I can say that there were no there were no blood explosions that you mad at any point this weekend good for you guys And hey, I I wasn't at double down I'm having trouble finding out information, but I hope that there is a silver lining
Starting point is 00:22:41 to the these shenanigans happening with You know the possible COVID contamination at Double down and that's because I'm under the assumption that due to prior instances in the melee and smash community They kept all the children away from that side of the venue So they would have been unlikely to have been exposed to COVID Took a minute, but you got it in there you
Starting point is 00:23:15 took some workshopping but Old faithful thinking about that for like 10 minutes old faithful the wrench. How do I? Yo, oh, right. I got if we get through a smash segment without me saying hey smash brothers or pedophiles What are we doing? I have failed in my duty That old that old wrench got her Yeah, oh no, yeah, yeah Oh Man, so what's it up with you? No, I mean like that's the thing like
Starting point is 00:23:58 I've read some events where just like you know You're just like the names you go with sometimes or just like yeah This is cool for like a an FTC event and like I had an event We read called like MTL SF massacre and it's just like man, right like if something were to happen You know just oh Comes in with a samurai sword and starts going nuts Like yeah, people are gonna be like really this weekend at the event Montreal Street Fighter Massacre, you know Yeah, anyway, um
Starting point is 00:24:33 No, but Hey all that aside Went to UMED and Yeah Saw some saw some friendly faces and Entered a couple of things Pretty much
Starting point is 00:24:53 you know Just what most most of the time was was just kind of like Like looking at like a game like persona and being like, okay, how do I what's the oh? It's been a bit. How do you fucking okay? There it is Okay, cool, and then you know you go like two and two and in some in some random shit or whatever It's only guy like that on and like like strive as well, you know just whatever with There's this game Akatsuki Blitz camp
Starting point is 00:25:28 which I really that's a that's a really fun one and Yes, that's the one with the with the fucking with the Blitz tank and the Nazis and the wild ass shit That's a real that's a game I enjoy entering because it's three buttons and you can all you don't have to remember how to play It's so basic and simple. You can just pick it up and go right in So well that that leads that leads to a kind of fantasy in my head that it's like congrats What's it feel like to be you know top for you know the fourth place in the Akatsuki Blitz camp tournament like dude
Starting point is 00:26:06 I don't even know how to play this game. Yeah. Yeah, I know absolutely and just please don't hand out any themed Metals For the for your games, you know, please don't well, why do the ones for this game get pinned on your chest? What's up with that? What do you Yeah, I'm just really really into blitz camp huge fan. It's just a No, but the the main the main reason why I was I was I was looking forward to it was because it was gonna be the first DNF dual event so That's Dungeon and Fighter dual the new
Starting point is 00:26:47 Aiding fighting game You know, we talked about it last week pretty much at length and you described it as Oppression mm-hmm and Since that week every time I have seen that game show up anywhere and watched 10 seconds of it This this looks like the most busted shit. I've ever seen I just yeah I just saw a fucking video right before the podcast of a guy that puts a little tornadoes around him Forget his name swift master swift and just like here's how the cast can't deal with it Nothing you can do just
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like here's what what absolutely nothing you can do and and the striker like the Tifa girl can Like they found so they found some tech with her this weekend Where she can just put you in in a block string and she can do a combo to you like while you're blocking Where if you don't have the resources to like do a like an alpha counter Yeah, you're gonna get guard broken and killed no matter what unstoppable. I I feel like we're like maybe two months away from It going the way of like like teenage mutant turtles tournament fighters Yeah, which in which in which case the game breaks down like here's four characters
Starting point is 00:28:08 And if you play these four characters the game is solved It's gonna come down to Who wins the first neutral engagement in the first one second of the round and then it is solved after that I have already heard discussion of like character bands potential like on And like the discussion of Because some people are start are really feeling it and like that was a big discussion topic this weekend too because I'm looking at this And I'm like man
Starting point is 00:28:39 Like what is the threshold for banning a character, right? Like if you if someone has an infinite for example like crusader has an infinite But right you just ban the tech and you say you can't do more than three loops of that Otherwise you lose the match, right? Then the then you can still continue to to play with that character But then there's my threshold is always a kuma in Street Fighter 2 Super Turbo, right? Like oh, yeah, that is like twice as strong as everybody. He's playing a different video game. He's just not yeah even remotely fair And a good example as you do talk about crusaders infinite
Starting point is 00:29:15 But like where to had the loop in Street Fighter 4, but it was so fucking hard that no one ever thought to ban it Exactly, and it only goes up to nine times, right? So the like run-stop fierce is what L for today didn't Street Fighter 4 and that's a perfect example because it's like Yeah, you don't even have to ban it It's extremely hard to do the rhythm of it changes as you get faster and go later into the loop and then at nine It stops, you know, so it's like it's a perfect like oh this character is Weird, but like this makes him a lot better if you have the ability to pull it off, you know and
Starting point is 00:29:50 So with with a kuma as the like bar for like what banning a character is you start looking at like like yeah these other examples like like Labcoat 21 and Dragon Ball was like really really fucking crazy strong, but it's just like what what does the bar? What should the bar be at, you know? over the years We've seen like for a little King of Fighters for example just got patched and then like now every team has to have cronin on it the k999 guy Yeah, k49 type guy because it's just like if you don't have them on your team You're probably just not going to be able to beat someone that does type of thing
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, and and it gets weird because it can't just be character strength because you look at a game like Third Strike a game That had no bands and you saw characters like Chun Li and Yun and well yeah, but Sure, but like let's I'm just talking the regular roster like Chun Li and Ken and Gil and Yun are like like so much better Than the regular roster like like they're firmly in s and that's a game that has like fucking 12 in it Right. Yeah, so it's not just like the distance and strength. It has to be like something more qualitative something more like 40% of the cast doesn't get to play at all Yeah, yeah, and when you're using this character and like Dudley and Makoto keep up because they can like they can explain explode
Starting point is 00:31:13 You can explode off of like a bad guess in some random setups, you know versus the the overall oppression of yun and Chun Li but anyway, so that it's like we had it's weak one and those discussions are already happening, but everyone can absolutely See that this is the most batshit Of the of the accessible games and again aiding they're the they made Marvel 3 Right. Yeah, like so they are they are the premier in just Fuck you block too bad Even if it's day even if it's your first day learning this game And it's like I said you're gonna in your in your first 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:31:53 You're gonna feel really good because you can learn one of those combos too and just it's It seems I saw a little joke about it that was like I don't want to block I want to press buttons to which the responses then died Yeah, yeah, but no, so that was That was the one I was excited for and you know not too bad I managed to to get top 16 in that so I'm like I'm happy with you know my my My ability to play that game. Of course. I had to fucking sit down next to Jimmy Bones To get to get
Starting point is 00:32:35 Eliminated by him Did you help did you help organize the tournament? No No, okay bummer because then you could have like Been like Jimmy, why don't you go sit in that other side of the bracket? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah No, you can't play seating games, man You can't fuck around with that and that's another thing that top player who top player privilege will also come and Like start to play fucking seating games with you where you know like the way that you you do the randomized bracket and such is
Starting point is 00:33:12 They'll will be like oh put this do that put this over it's a whole fucking Evo would be so much more exciting if the pool if the seating was completely randomized. Yeah like But it's it's also it's batshit like I there is there is something to be said about seating But like it's nice that you can use like previous placements at other events as a means of deciding how Yeah, how you you go about your seeds, you know, but if you if you know you a Here's the fairest waiter on the brackets, okay the top eight from last year mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:33:56 They're in pool. They're in pool one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so What's what's really fun actually is like in there's there's a couple of events that like They deliberately fuck around and they have a Registration and when the registration date ends, which is like sometimes two three days before the event starts It's a cutoff point because they know people are lazies they want to get everything in if you sign up at the door Right, then you are going into the death pool Yeah, it's everybody's
Starting point is 00:34:33 Day of sign up in which there's no time to seat it So congrats you're you could be next to anybody too bad, right? If you're responsible, you'd get a normal day and a normal bracket But if you're lazy and you only sign up at the door which a lot of people tend to do then you're going into the fucking death pool and Too fucking bad, you know, and that's it now some people because they're professionals or at least very talented They have no problem entering into the death pool because they know they're gonna stomp 99% of people in the death pool Yeah, and that's your problem now Yeah, yeah, who is normal and entered into the death pool
Starting point is 00:35:10 No, and that's where people start like everyone just goes to watch the death pool because that's like watching a top 24 You know, yeah right away It's insane But I do like that solution as well for just like, you know, hey register on time Do your do your fucking do your shit, you know as long as long as you do it beforehand You'll get a fair result and everyone will be happy and it was up to you to do so before Tournaments are known months in advance. There's no reason to not register up until the day you show up Silly how motherfuckers are saying hungry pox. Oh
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, no, that's that's right there Right, all right Hungry pox is the name. Oh, no And I I can't wait until 7 to 12 days from now That anybody who gets sick is just gonna be like, yeah, no, this is Like even if there were other people that were shittily masking blah blah blah because he's so prominent and because it was so obvious and because it was so
Starting point is 00:36:19 Big that's gonna be everyone's just gonna blame it on him. That's gonna be that and you know what that's fine That's fine Yeah Well, anyway That is a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna probably keep playing that for a little bit Having fun with the I'm so fascinated by the evolution of that game. It's been one week Mm-hmm. I'm already hearing from you and others like yeah
Starting point is 00:36:51 No, this character gets going and then you don't because they gave you they gave everybody Too much right away and made it easy to do right and the idea behind that is you played the original game DFO you want to be able to do the same things you could do against the AI, right? So it's like, you know how Dante coming into Marvel 3 was like this better feel like fucking Dante, right? And it sure did yes and Virgil as well You're like you can't fuck around and make a weird version of them that doesn't feel like they should you know They have to have the move list and in or and by having the move list it just makes them way better than everyone else yeah, but so fucking be it, you know and
Starting point is 00:37:33 This game was designed with that in at heart is just you're used to like stomping the shit out of AI AI's in a beat-em-up context when you play DFO So people want to feel that good playing their characters, but there's no AI's to beat up So it's your turn player too, but I'm still gonna do the same you get you get to be the live training dummy. Yeah Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna see where that goes and I'm also happy to see the the live adaptation of the The the Crusader memes so I'm quoting Bible. I'm talking scripture Yeah, I'm dropping them. I like and then now there's a clip from this weekend at another event while Crusaders on stream and just Some dude is in the crowd holding a Bible up. Just go in
Starting point is 00:38:23 Brother bless him with the holy shield put on the whole armor of God, you know, just Holded the Bible out But I have to say I really really appreciate it because And this is this is fictional in general back in the day when I was a wee baby back in the early 90s The archetype in your fantasy or you know a group-based setting that got the least respect was the cleric Always got the least respect people wanted to be the rogue or the warrior or the wizard nothing edgy ever dangerous about a cleric it It was genuinely unpopular and that extended out from D&D into games into
Starting point is 00:39:15 Fucking action get like whatever mm-hmm and now mm-hmm We've looped around mm-hmm in that I talked to people who play D&D and clerics and paladins are Freaks to be reckoned with and people love them and we see something like Crusader in D&F and everybody's just going fucking crazy for the holy man Yeah, yeah, because like you nobody wants fucking God what was his name even in dragon lands? I forget There's Karaman there's tennis and then there was It was the husband of the girl with the staff of moon to silver moon or yeah
Starting point is 00:40:03 Remember who he was Christ Wasn't not terms the five was an older fighter not humor. That's the legendary Paladin No, it was tennis gray moon gray wolf or a fucking forget whatever Riverwind Riverwind was that No, okay cleric in that party, okay Um But like either way like you can go with the boat with the boring old like traditional cleric archetype Or you can go with modern-day black preacher You know hallelujah
Starting point is 00:40:45 And just like it's the hypest way to do your hammer loops, baby. Everybody gets on board for that shit. It's the best I love it. I was a big I was a big fan of In pillars one the cleric in your team is a like Pistained pseudo homeless aggressive racist piece of shit Who worships like fire and trial and it's like a bad person. Oh wow, okay He's the only cleric on the roster. Yeah, okay, so
Starting point is 00:41:19 Do you want heels? You're bringing endurance with you and he will just constantly just shit all over Every single party member because they suck ass by his busted religion as he's like in rags. He's awful It's funny because like it within the DNF cast. There's already another character. That's the inquisitor and like, yeah, her whole thing is like We're gonna we're gonna praise God by making you suffer and burning you at the stake and going all in works and And and you know, like if you don't read the good word then time to torture you with all kinds of creative shit I got buckets a couple rats and some fire You know, we can figure this shit out that'll battle that'll do it
Starting point is 00:42:07 To which when you fight with Crusader, he's like Can you fucking calm down? This is not the way stop it? This is too much chill So there are multiple archetypes already in the game of like, okay, but how much Holy Spirit though? Yeah, it's a It's a it's a good time. It's a good time. I feel I feel like my my My entire my entire life has led me up to this kind of character. I've been I've been I've been prepared I've been I've been built up
Starting point is 00:42:44 I've been training for this Also, I'm gonna take a little side note here I also think that the Paladin being a fighter priest Turning into a zealot of any particular cause was a great change over the years Like not necessarily I'm just a different cleric with a long-sword proficiency, but the idea of like not man I'm a paladin of cash money Did I talk or did I did I talk last week at all about the the other like Branch classes in DFO you did you yeah, okay, so that's exactly it like how fucking
Starting point is 00:43:21 Corrupt or insane and zealot Zealot like are you going to be about your belief? You know It's a great. It's a great way to actually make it more unique Yeah, well and then then then you know on the other end of the spectrum you've got your As I'm fucking reading Trigun. You've got your wolfwood type cleric quote-unquote, you know just smoking downtrodden fucking
Starting point is 00:43:52 Shades wearing hobo as well. Oh, you mean like what if dirty Harry wore a cross? Yeah, I'm getting drunk, but he sings hallelujah every once in a while, so it's fine, right? Anyway, it'll work out So yeah, I know those it was cool school had a good time I lots of lots of fun and yeah, I will be I will be purifying the the heathens Further into the future because yeah, I think I think I'm gonna think I'm gonna play a bit of this and See how if I can like I I got I got top 16
Starting point is 00:44:30 And I felt like without a couple of simple mistakes that I made I could have made top eight And that's the kind of feeling that makes me think okay Keep going see what you can do here, you know I'm just I'm just hoping you get to enjoy the game for a long enough that it doesn't turn into Like a completely solved equation within a couple months And then you get the situation where top eight is a coin flip. Yeah between like 400 different people Yeah, it might it really might but You know whatever I'll wait and see and in the meantime the fact that I can get good quality matches online means
Starting point is 00:45:12 I don't have to think about it helps, you know exactly like the bullshit. So That's that And then beyond that as well on Friday We did a special stream for rumble verse Which was a good time rumble fish rumble verse The rumble fish the rumble fish the rumble fish the rumble fish They've actually a pack was that was that wait there a couple weeks ago. They
Starting point is 00:45:43 recently trademarked rumble fish again Seriously, so the the rumble fish might come back That's so silly the rumble fish So was this content identical to the last Playtest not entirely because what I I thought so and then shout outs to the best of on who swung by He came over and basically had a iPad full of notes ready to explain of course that like they've made changes to the system They've made changes to the balance and they've added a lot more to the
Starting point is 00:46:25 The universal like base Like fighting system that you cut like the way the fights play out so The biggest difference is I think the that there are there are now There's not just like attack attack attack as like a combo, right? But you can do like you can do like light Light light light is like a three-hit knockdown And then and then if you do a light light heavy It's like two hits and then a launcher that sends them backwards and then Depending on if your back is to war if your back is if you're fighting on top of skyscraper and you do light light heavy
Starting point is 00:47:03 You can send them flying Behind you, you know often for extra damage at which point the timing of them falling Gives you time to set up an elbow drop To have OTG them an inescapable exactly exactly. Yeah So that is a perfect Situational thing where if they're back if your back is towards the cliff then like you can reverse the tides on them And then there's like light heavy which now creates like a stagger state, which then you can confirm into Your grab whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:39 So that's really fucking interesting And then now going through it like getting a chance to warm up a bit more feel out Oh, how it how it works on on the ground and then Esteban won like the last match of the stream It was pretty fucking hype I see now how it's gonna play out and it there's so much happening and you really It's a really smart way of like doing the Taking the lessons of like what fighting games do like very very quickly and slowing it all down and making it very pronounced Right. So like a lot of what's happening and like, you know a competent level in a fighting game is something where it's like
Starting point is 00:48:24 I throw out a big punch. Oh shit. I missed you. Now. It's your turn to hit me before I pull my fist back, right? Yeah, there's a like that is super pronounced in this game where the moment you take a swing at somebody and you miss It's like you're stuck reloading in some other battle royale, you know Yeah, and then when someone's that's stuck in a reload animation because they didn't properly handle their reloading That's the best opportunity for you to get in on them, right? Like Little moments like that are like much more like what they're much more obvious And then you can choose to block you can choose to roll out There's some other things they added as well is I think beforehand your only options were to
Starting point is 00:49:08 Get up Like neutral do a wake up attack or to like roll out Um, I believe that were your options. Now you can do a wake up nut punch Right and the nut punch will Uh, it'll break through a guard if they're blocking, but it loses it loses to a normal attack But and it also beats a throw Okay, great. So it's the rps on wake up as well
Starting point is 00:49:38 Exactly, right if you if you're if you see them having a say a similar sort of situation where they're pressuring you Or timing a throw to get you as soon as you wake up You can just hit them in the nuts and then you can reverse the tides, you know um The uh other thing is like as you do damage you unlock perks for your character and this is really interesting because um, you know in a normal battle royale your incentive is to go kill people and then You get the good shit. They dropped, right?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah, um, you can either scour the map and try to avoid combat as much as possible Or you can immediately just try and get all the good shit everybody else has right now Um, you know and then later on in the game you take somebody out and then oh shit. I picked up the gold krayber fantastic Oh, yeah, anybody you take out in the last 30 20 percent of the game is going to be drowning in good shit So in this case People drop chicken, you know, or they drop some other stuff
Starting point is 00:50:37 But their moves like sometimes they drop a move but not off not all not I think it's if they have a move in their pocket, but maybe not I don't think they drop they don't ever drop the ones they have they've memorized right so Um as a result you're not picking up their good guns So to make it so that like you you can choose to like shoot out to the side outskirts Go find equipment try to be un Bothered and like get into the fight eventually. That's always one way to play a battle royale game But if you're somebody that decides to be aggressive and just fly into the heat of things and just start beating people
Starting point is 00:51:13 The more damage you do the more you unlock Passive abilities on your character that are amazing Really really useful. So um And you'll see like a like a bar next to your your Your character on the on the right side of the screen that says like when you hit this threshold You'll unlock your next perk and some of them are like standing still heals you Um
Starting point is 00:51:39 Massive because towards the end of the game healing items are gone, right? Yeah, uh, you get one that's like on whiff You can roll cancel out of whatever attack you just missed. Oh, that's That's super strong incredibly strong Right. Some of them are um Every time you do like a drop kick it automatically goes into a follow-up like otg attack off the ground Hey, um, one of them I saw was like it doesn't matter what height you jump from It's gonna treat the explosion you make as if you jumped from the highest skyscraper
Starting point is 00:52:15 You know, that's great. Oh So like so get out there and fucking fight people people For because you can find great moves and you can find like life upgrades or health upgrades or damage upgrades um And and that builds your character out But you get unique really good things by just hitting people and even if you don't finish them off If you do some damage and then you're like, okay, uh, I'm gonna disengage here. I'm gonna I got my perk I'm out that's still viable because you've gotten your character better and more prepared for like how you go into the end
Starting point is 00:52:51 You know, um, so this wasn't yeah, it was an open play test. You had pretty full games the entire time a lot of people in there and um After learning the ins and outs of that now I can I'm consistently getting like top five You know, I won my own game like uh on saturday um It's it's really fun man And this is what anarchy reigns could have been
Starting point is 00:53:16 Like if anarchy reigns was unironically like many years before its own time That makes me real sad if they had money and like I guess like epic servers and you know, yeah like a momentum for them to to Like upgrade it to the next level if and yes 100 percent that being said though um like
Starting point is 00:53:43 Anarchy reigns like I don't know what that would have looked like with 40 people What it looks great. You know Uh, I I because because like you know how there's like some stuff that is like, um But part of what makes I think this work really well, too Is that like projectile things and like the distance you travel on like even like your forward momentum moves is still somewhat limited You know, yeah, you can't really snipe people Except for elbow dropping from the top floor from space from space all the way down to where they are and now you're in the fight, too um
Starting point is 00:54:22 But uh, it was yeah, it was fucking uh, it was a lot of fun and Now that I understand like those those aspects to it as well like I'm fucking super stoked for this game to come out and just be like, yeah, really You know a fun battle royale that I legitimately think I'm like I want to jump in and enjoy on a regular basis Well, it's like you've always gravitated way more towards melee combat than shooting guns And I could go either way but like man that that genre has been Dominated by shooting guns. Yeah Like totally totally dominated. Also, when is it coming out? I can't figure that out
Starting point is 00:54:59 Fall is the word I was told Fall So Yeah, now what I what I I've said it before and I'll say it every single time The biggest hurdle this game is going to face is the aesthetics because the choices they made are not great for how the the models look and It's going to run into similar problems to a game like them's fighting herds where it doesn't matter how great it is
Starting point is 00:55:30 It's going to just turn some people off from the jump and there's nothing you can do about it It kind of looks like fall guys Like obviously the the fall guys characters are all goofy little like among us characters But I'm talking like the rounded edges and the color palette I guess but then they look more human than that and it just yeah, they look like more fortnight And then and that halfway point just fucking Yeah, every time but what I'm hoping for what I need to see as well is In a lot of these games since the whole thing is like hey if you play this a lot
Starting point is 00:56:06 And you got like, you know a high level or I don't know like a battle pass or whatever is going You're going to unlock some crazy awesome cosmetics that you really want to get incentivized to So I want to see what the final amazing cosmetics are going to look like and see how much that mitigates the aesthetic issue in a way because um You know like some of that's genius because hey, do you want to make your character look good? Why don't you sign up for the bottom part? Because like for example, I I have to say like when I found the gear that made my character look like uh
Starting point is 00:56:41 Juan from um guacamole That's I enjoyed that because I like guacamole, you know, um, so You know things like there's there's ways to mitigate You know the impact and I hope that they find That that type of gear and put that in the game and still have a strong incentive and the other thing I'm hoping for I mean, I don't know if they will but just
Starting point is 00:57:09 If they can just like get aew on the horn You know not vince because that's obviously not going to work but like get like, you know Maybe new japan like someone that's like a wrestling promotion where you can start putting some accessories in that'd be so fun to be able to put the some gear on that is like part of
Starting point is 00:57:32 You know a crossover event I bet it's going to be generic for a while Like you could have a uh, I'm sure there'll be a um Costume set called the mortician that has like a black and purple wide brim hat and shit like that Yeah, dude, there's a wake-up animation that's straight up a an undertaker. Whoop, you know, like they they're already doing that um And you you know the the the wrecked shot is in the game and there it's it's homaging left and right
Starting point is 00:58:04 um The the animation with the goofy ref thumbs up is in there I'm just thinking um Like yeah, you you get that that final Layer in of just like, okay You can you can wear some aew merch and and or like You know cosplay as some of those some of the the wrestlers and That would that would be a nice mutual crossover. I think especially since aew is getting into games, right? So
Starting point is 00:58:31 yeah But then the worry is that aew would want to make their own thing instead of Crossing over with a different thing. Yeah, but the thing they're making is like A uke's wrestling game sounds pretty traditional, you know at the end. So um, yeah, anyway, I that that just find ways to You know incentivize us to like Get aesthetic shit in this game because it's it's the only it's the only downside Everything else is tons of fun
Starting point is 00:59:02 And you're gonna you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna push it I'm gonna still tell people to like, you know, check this out. You're gonna you're gonna have fun with it It's it's all the things that I enjoy competitively going on in a in a battle royale environment Um, yeah, so rumble verse was really fun The video for that get into fighting games should be popping up this week on the channel as well So do you classify that as a fighting game? Yeah, I put well, I mean, it's it's a battle royale like Fighting game like thing
Starting point is 00:59:33 So it comes it's battle royale first Fighting second right like any any game where like Like if you build an rpg, but then the moment an rpg random battle starts you're playing baseball It's it's a been that it's that game would be awesome Yes And it but like that would be a like a baseball rpg, you know, like you're you can you can do this genre mixing thing so
Starting point is 01:00:02 Uh, yeah, that that video is coming soon Um alongside that, uh, you can also check out the twitch rivals video Uh Team woolly versus team max is also live on woolly versus So check that out as well Um, yeah, and then elden ring and mass effect continue Um, okay, it's time for the elden ring check in where you at I'm soloing her
Starting point is 01:00:31 Okay, are you I am But are you actually I actually am I'm so what so I'm fighting millennia Yeah, go ahead. You are not actually soloing her you are attempting Yes, yes, yes, which is a minor distinction. It is a distinction. I am in the process of of attempting it so I'm at I'm at millennia And uh, I am doing it without any summons. I just want to me and me and my fists I just want to dance
Starting point is 01:01:07 So that's how I plan to do it Um, that fight is awesome. It's really fucking cool. And I have to say that I was worried about the overhype and What I got delivered, um Yeah, so You know, we talked a lot about elden ring like reusing their old tricks Right and to get to your hyper boss. I don't know what to call it, right? What's the word your your final optional?
Starting point is 01:01:36 And hey, here's a new trick The boss heals itself by hurting you That's a that's a that's a spicy new trick casually not a moment of vampirism Not a unique command grab that'll suck it from you a constant every mistake is
Starting point is 01:01:59 Life back a significant amount That's it. And That's all it is You go in and it's like you look at it and it's like man this This fight really wants you to mix it up because certain play styles Just don't Play I was using a big ass shield for a lot of my playthrough And I didn't for her
Starting point is 01:02:27 Because she heals through the fucking shield hits Yeah, so um again like putting like going in there trying to do it without any um any summons or or whatever is like You know, I'm going in there with some weights on and I want to Get it down to a point where um, I recognize the animations because You know like uh, that's that's that's again like the the ones where I locked in and really just went at it You know the mog and of course and the the ulcerated tree spirit at first in the in the first dungeon
Starting point is 01:03:03 things like that where um You just have to get it down to recognizing like just about every animation you see Uh and having uh and then realizing when to go in and when to go out are when I'm like Feeling most in control of the matchup But it's funny because like those attempts take longer to learn than just being irresponsible And taking chances and hoping for the best, right? Yeah, so it kind of feels like they want you to be responsible because that like the the nature of her healing means that
Starting point is 01:03:38 Almost any souls boss or elder ring boss you can you can whittle them down over time by playing it safe And not this one If you try and play it safe She'll still be there with 70 percent of her life after you've exhausted all of your resources They want you to go in they want you to go in super hard So what I noticed is like on my third attempt. I got her to phase two by just taking Irresponsible risks, you know Yeah, getting the crumbling super hard getting the crumple in and just like never letting up
Starting point is 01:04:12 And the thing about those irresponsible risks is that like I just I I'm taking them But I'm I also know that like every time it goes wrong. You're wasting a sip. You're doing it Yeah, in a it's a dirty It's a dirty phase two. It's a dirty victory, you know So I I every so after that by taking it at that pace I kind of like slowed it down to learn to like sip and appreciate the fight and and get those animations down But after multiple attempts of that I then Went back to going ham and then started doing really well again. So I was like, okay
Starting point is 01:04:50 I see that this might just be um This might just be a bit of a situation that calls for Going ham be irresponsible and then phase two. I'm gonna have to see how that goes Um, you know, I got a little taste of it in that that like I said that third attempt, but um Mogue phase two is one where That control
Starting point is 01:05:15 What what like it immediately backfires because the blood flame on the ground is just too it's too much to deal with It's bananas. Yeah, right zany. So that's where once that starts to happen It's like stop giving a fuck take all the chances you can steal it if you can steal it Um, you know and and then take the win Uh, so I I'm I'm gonna See if this has a similar rhythm to it But like the controlled first phase As much as I enjoy sipping the slow wine on that I got results immediately by just being irresponsible
Starting point is 01:05:49 it's it's a really fascinating fight for your Mega optional because like you hit her the first time and she visibly staggers and you're you're stagger her out of like a default animation like she was a npc Like fight or something like that and you're like, oh, okay And like it definitely gets across the the feeling that the character itself is physically frail um
Starting point is 01:06:14 And then she hits you and you're like, oh and it's real bad uh that like there's That's I don't know what to call an experimentation fight because Um, the rules on it are actually a lot more lax than they are for a lot of boss fights Uh, like a lot of bosses in other ring like oh, they're strong against this and they're strong against that and they don't stagger Right, like if you think about the double gargoyle Right, like that thing is nuts
Starting point is 01:06:43 Uh, uh in terms of like, well, they're not weak to this and they're not weak to that and they're not weak to that And good luck crumpling them you get to millenia. It's like she crumples to everything and she's weak to everything Other than she's strong against your life bar. Yeah. Yeah And so like you try out a bunch of stuff. It's like wow, she's actually really weak to freeze and bleed like like a lot Okay, you know what she also is really weak to Every sword or or hammer above a certain size
Starting point is 01:07:16 Will knock her out of damn near everything interesting And I ran the my plan the way that I ended up working it Is I got the blasphemous blade, which is the the right card a faith great sword the vampire sword wave And me and mimic just fucking waved her down Okay for the whole first phase and she just could barely stand up interesting. Okay. Okay Yeah, I uh It's it's funny how it's like just by having her Hit you on your mistakes and suck life back. It still creates challenge. That's good enough, you know
Starting point is 01:07:55 um I'm uh Well, anyway, don't what like phase two or whatever. I will we'll see as it as it happens, but The important thing about phase two is that it's fucking cool Um, I was gonna say that like the uh, what's what speak of like just talking about cool. Shit. You're also like, oh Here's the actual blood born trick Weapon moments Going off in her hand as she comes at you. She's straight up just doing that like as you and you're seeing the switch and um
Starting point is 01:08:29 And then like that nice little nice nice little startup animation on her float Is like just long enough to consistently fuck you up with your read and be like do I have time to sprint? And you're like, okay unlock sprint. I think I gave me I didn't make it You know, there's a there's a You're talking about the it's called the waterfowl dance where she holds in the air Okay, and then she does the judgment cut antique fucking judgment. Yeah, there's a there's a really specific movement that you can do to 100 avoid that every time Interesting, but it's it's not intuitive. It's
Starting point is 01:09:10 It's it's weird. So I've managed to clear it by one already being somewhat far away to Unlocking sprinting backwards and then using one bloodhound step one bloodhound step and then two for the third part. Yeah When you lock on with it, it does a dandy step sometimes often actually So like if you unlock you can go back back But if you are locked it'll go back and then bring you back in even though you're holding down. Okay. Um, so yeah, you kind of the The way that I figured it out was that uh, first of all, you have to recognize it early Like the instant she hangs you have to immediately start sprinting backwards like directly backwards
Starting point is 01:09:55 And if you do that on a good enough reaction time, the first two can't catch up to you. Okay And the third one always will but the third one's like a Rollable strike and then dodge the last little bit You run backwards for two and then roll forward on that third one Okay, uh, but you have bloodhound steps. So it's probably going to be a little easier. Yeah. Yeah, that thing is great So you can but you can out sprint the Yeah, let's start. Yeah, okay So no that that and that seems to be you know, like that that is the the the the run ruiner
Starting point is 01:10:30 Um as is the the command grab you put a you put a shield up and she gets her whole bar back Like if she's at like 20% and you have a good shield and she bangs the whole move out on the shield the whole My car comes back It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I also appreciate the simple Gravity of her cutscene. You know, oh, yeah, she just gets up Puts it on and comes at you nice and slow. Yeah, you know That whole that whole area is uh, I I mentioned it
Starting point is 01:11:10 ages ago when I had first done it and It ties into the This feels like a bunch of dark souls games mashed together Um, the halog tree is like a dark souls dlc Like it it actually feels a lot like the ring city. Mm-hmm. It can I can see that I could see how it's it like And it's and it it's like this is this is what you used to pay 10 15 bucks for as like the ultimate challenge that and it's just sitting over here big hard zone
Starting point is 01:11:42 big hard zone big cool boss You know, that's that's optional and stands out and it's in in how it fits into the ring city's difficulty in the That area is easily the hardest spot in the whole game the party avatar Sitting down with ballistas on all sides flanked right over that bridge And then you drop down and it's like here's a bunch of those fucking Multi-handed, uh, whatever they're fucking regal. Oh, royal revenant royal. Oh my god, like two three four Huh?
Starting point is 01:12:22 What five how you know And every one of those as well is just like it's it's One rush down move away from ruining whatever life bar you have Um, yeah, no it that area is fucking real Um, I think the funniest thing, uh, so uh, elie sent me a video or people are doing the hey Let's just smash together enemies from elden ring into their own arenas so that we can see who be too And uh, it's definitive proof Where the rune bear
Starting point is 01:12:59 From the consecrated snow field versus millenia Is like a 10 zero match up for the bear. Oh my god Like oh no it is It is it absolutely Stomps her into the dirt no problem And it's like yeah, no those bears are over tuned man. Those bears are silly It's it's the turn, right? It's the it's like you want to talk about like how we used to laugh about um
Starting point is 01:13:33 Auto tracking overheads You know every move the bear does Auto track swipes Massively in your direction no matter what big startup so that you see it But if you get right around it and it's just at the last second it's coming down on you Um, and you can never truly outrun it like it's always kind of on your ass, you know Yeah, it's wild um, okay, I I mean obviously like that gets the
Starting point is 01:14:01 The the the lord juices flowing but because you know again, though There's all that's this series of of the fucking videos of like Lady maria versus slave knight gale. What's it gonna be? You know, it's like yeah, who wins? Like oftentimes the actual winner is a little surprising and it's due to the statistical difference between the two games In some cases. Hey, let me ask you Uh, you're using uh your punchy fists, right? Yep And you have freeze on them spiked fists frost and uh bleed
Starting point is 01:14:35 Okay Do you know about the uh flame trick with freeze? Yes, you can reset the pop the pop I have and I tried Um using a flame sestis on the opposite hand to have no that's not gonna do it It didn't work exactly precisely so I was like then I was I was trying to see if I could like yeah pop pop switch over pop pop Um, you can do it with with fists Sick and be tough like a lot of people use like one weapon and then freeze it up and then use the left hand to Yeah, no the most viable way would be to like full on have it in a second slot Switch to a flame fist and then switch it back off
Starting point is 01:15:16 um But it'd be a lot better in a game where it the elden ring is the first from software game And which actually switching your slots or switching your you're from one handed to two hand is actually a little awkward Because the the holding triangle shenanigans Yeah, um, so I I tried it for a little bit and then decided not to but it's fine Because I mean the fucking the star fists are they're they're doing the job like they're fucking great um But I'm just I'm consistently
Starting point is 01:15:45 undershooting How far I think uh, they're gonna go on my jump r2 sometimes and that's basically the the the biggest limitation with them But yeah, I I ran I ran the biggest slabs I could get a hold of and jumping like r2s were just Super good the whole way through man It is I feel like there's a lot of people who went all the way through elden ring It's like no you're jumping r2 attack is incredible Like for no matter what weapon you have Like though that oh, they're so good
Starting point is 01:16:17 I I'm thinking what might work better for my build would be to put on a a spell that causes flame um of there's a few that are possible and Use a little little fireball. Yeah, just toss a little fireball out or something And then go back to the fist, you know that that that feels you know what yeah, uh, there There's a couple flame sorceries. I think Um worth a shot But uh, that's that's currently where Uh, I'm sitting is there an ice whip. I just
Starting point is 01:16:50 There's the because I'm just think there's the liquid metal whip um But you can't put frosts like ash on anything Yeah, because I'm just thinking because there's a really good fire whip you get later and I'm just thinking about like Just the the annoyance of propping freeze on something with one of the whip weapons and then just a little tap with fire I also this game has so much shit in it. Yeah, so because I'm using laws of regression for for like anti poison anti rot
Starting point is 01:17:26 Um, yeah, I still do have like a little bit of faith So like if there's even an incantation, that's that's like simple fire. That's low enough faith That might that might work on the belt as well, you know I um I legitimately don't understand how anyone could go through Elden ring without any points in magic or any points in faith The amount of times I had to cure myself of scarlet rot I uncountable
Starting point is 01:17:59 Yeah, just strengthen decks would be weird um, it feels like Whatever you do you have a primary and then a secondary like either faith int or Arcane in theory, you know, yeah um But either way, um the the the the The balance unbalance continues where you can just you can bullshit your way through everything, but Everything's also going to bullshit its way through you
Starting point is 01:18:30 Um, that's about right. Mm-hmm. So I'll check back in Once I'm once I'm through it, but I'm glad I'm glad that like it's delivering and it's not and it's not overdone You know, um on and yeah, and I saw as well that let me solar her got himself a fucking sword for his accomplishments So that's pretty cool He did over 2000 Completed runs or some nonsense but
Starting point is 01:18:56 When I first saw that name and saw the memes popping up I just I'm like, I don't know what this is and I don't want to know so I'm just going to scroll past it and I yeah, and I avoided it for most of The duration of it, but like eventually it hit a point where I I'm like, okay. No, like I I've seen and heard enough that I I get what's going on here. You know Well, I mean at a certain point It's always the the nature of any game with a lot of boss fights is like you're you're clearly at what the 90 percent mark
Starting point is 01:19:28 You can remember things that you've seen that you haven't dealt with So they must be What's going on or near ish for sure? Um Yeah, no good on get on from soft for Like, you know if I can send in send in a reward for that. That's that's super cool I'll tell you what man the it's it's uh, it's almost a shame that you didn't fight her because she had a bunch of different iterations and bugs associated with her There was one version
Starting point is 01:19:59 In which they patched it. I want to say it was like 1.02 in which if you summoned anybody to help you The matchmaking hit detection was broken. So she'd heal on every swing whether it hit anyone or not. Wow Because the game thought she was hitting a summon at all times. Oh boy Okay Yeah, well, okay. So that that's just ridiculous. That's not even like a a balance change. It's just that's just her not working Uh, interesting Um, did that apply to to local summons too or? No, it
Starting point is 01:20:38 Online it applied to any any summon any any secondary online person at all So it's like no you did for there was a period in which you absolutely had to go in by yourself completely interesting interesting Uh, yeah, so that continues and uh mass effect as well over on woolly versus I'll post the schedule up And I believe uh, yeah Well, we'll see. I'm not sure if we're going to be able to have any get into fighting games this weekend I'll let you guys know but uh, stay tuned to my account on twitter for the uh, schedule
Starting point is 01:21:17 Uh, shortly What is going on with you? Well, what's going on with me is that I got my Book I got my book in the mail. There you go. My book machine And uh, this is a kindle paper white signature Uh, it's for reading books And I've been reading a couple books on it primarily I've been going back and rereading carl sagan's cosmos
Starting point is 01:21:44 Because I figured that'd be appropriate way to start to go back and rethink about yohan's kepler and the voyager mission and all that stuff um Carl sagan's books are great, but they're not They don't stand up to his own reading of them in audiobook form because carl sagan has a great Great teacher's voice And he really gets it across but regardless cosmos is a great book um more importantly uh
Starting point is 01:22:14 Using a kindle is stellar Uh, if you haven't used an e-reader of any sort prior it is difficult to explain how much easier and more comfortable it is to Read on electronic ink rather than A led screen or an OLED screen Uh, any lighting condition It's just really really really easy on the eyes Uh It very very quickly
Starting point is 01:22:43 switches pages Uh, it's easy to sort I appreciate the I appreciate the fact that it is the you have one job and you do it And it sounds like it does it while not getting too distracted with you know, the The side things that it could be doing, you know I uh, I talked about it a little before and there were a couple people It's like well, you don't get a kindle those things are useless
Starting point is 01:23:11 You have to get a get a larger android tablet and then you can run all sorts of apps on it and like but I want one for reading books And this one reads books the best there's there's obviously some competitors in the space There's there's one literally called books b o o x and there's a nook and there's a Kobo um, but Uh, I just went with the kindle for the simplicity Uh, so having it attached to amazon is a little annoying because you have to use a Uh program called caliber to
Starting point is 01:23:51 grab books off of other weird sources to Get them into the what do you call it the the format that amazon actually likes on their book Uh, but you can hook this thing up to a library card if you have one and would use it as a Like get your library ebooks But yeah, the long and short of it is just like It's just really really pleasant To be reading books on an e-reader you can rent from a local library to the kindle
Starting point is 01:24:22 For like a two or three week period. Oh shit Oh, yeah, no, I did not know that prior to this either. Wow. That's sick. Okay Now as for manga, which was the other possible use case It's a little more complex so first of all Formatting existing manga into the correct format is a lot more annoying than formatting books Because of the right left and double page spreads But it is doable
Starting point is 01:24:51 The other thing is that uh, the kindle paper white is at a 6.8 inch Diameter whereas your average trade paperback of manga is about an inch larger Uh, it is absolutely 100 serviceable as a manga reader, but it is a little small It's not like it's it's not like it's screwing up like shading or detailing or anything like that. That all comes out great It's that depending on what you're reading Uh, the actual text
Starting point is 01:25:29 Uh, can be a little small. Can you pinch and zoom? You can but because it's a it's not a tablet because it's an e-reader pinching and zooming feels like complete shit Okay, because it it refreshes really really really slowly. Oh, so it's like fade fade fade fade zoom Well, not exactly, but like here. I got a random page of cosmos up here and it's like if this was a tablet uh It would that would be instantaneous instead of fading away and then fading in okay Uh, electronic ink is like really really slow For that. So if you were desperate to use it for reading manga and only manga
Starting point is 01:26:12 I think people recommend the the Kobo because it's much bigger. It's actually the exact dimensions Of a volume manga page. Cool. Okay um And also it's in this weird thing where um Renting books from your library or otherwise Is a lot easier than renting manga or
Starting point is 01:26:37 From your library or whatever and then putting it on your e-reader Uh There's a lot more fucking hoops jump through with the formatting What do you have to do? Uh, you gotta convert it But then you have to use like special options to convert it properly and like maybe the aspect ratio didn't come out right Or what have you so you can't just drop a couple jpegs or or a txt No, it has to be in like dot mobi or dot az w3 or whatever
Starting point is 01:27:08 And they're switching formats on this thing from to a more regular one like I think it's called e-pub But it's still a little bit annoying um So what and the other thing is that like I don't know how fast you go through a book Right. I've been reading cosmos most of yesterday and a little bit today And I'm about halfway through I don't know how fast you go through a volume of like saber circle one piece. That's two one. What two sixteen pages
Starting point is 01:27:35 uh But like you go on amazon right now and you're like I want to buy one piece and they're like, okay Give us eight hundred dollars Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Yep now to be fair The reason why that is is because one piece has a completely absurd 99 volumes on amazon Uh, but still yep. No, but uh, it's trigon maximum volume 13 out of print
Starting point is 01:28:04 300 dollars, please. Fuck you. Yeah. Well, luckily with you know, your your electronic books You're dodging that problem And you're usually actually getting maybe a buck off or two bucks off like whatever the trade paperback was because I mean it should be It did you're not using any real fucking paper, right? So like a uh, uh A volume of one piece is like seven bucks canadian Which I mean that seems reasonable until you want to read all of one piece Hmm seven bucks What is
Starting point is 01:28:37 Yeah, okay Well, yeah, you're saving a little a bit on that. That's like like a like a dollar. That's fair. Um, there is one Absolutely massive problem with the kindle for manga though And I think the kubo side step or the kobo whatever the fucking is I think it sidesteps it But there's the reason why most people actually read manga on an ipad or an android tablet and that is That shonen jump has an app you can sign up for for two dollars a month. Mm-hmm. That just gives you Bucking everything
Starting point is 01:29:16 And this thing doesn't support that Just doesn't support it so Uh, I'm definitely going to keep this for reading my books But uh, if I desperately want to get into like Long-term reading of just a shit ton of manga I would probably actually get the kobo specifically for that I guess if you're like if you're specifically looking to be into like
Starting point is 01:29:48 If you're going to be reading multiple of the things that shonen jump is putting out then You know that is a bummer, but Like some of the shit I'd want to catch up on personally is not necessarily shonen jump like published So I it might not you know apply as as being that beneficial Um, I'm pretty sure tech is not in shonen jump People are asking if it has a headset port for audiobooks. It does not have a headset port But what it does have is bluetooth so if you want to put an audiobook on your kindle You can
Starting point is 01:30:23 Listen to it by your bluetooth headphones Uh, I don't you know, I you know, I'm just thinking I don't know if the kobo actually supports Uh the fucking What do you call it? The fucking shonen app In fact, I think the shonen jump app may in fact just be for pc and tablet Which oh well
Starting point is 01:30:50 Dumb But you know, I mean dude like it's it's not surprising to hear that like major japanese Publication company doesn't play nicely with accessible Reading tool or accessible, you know format that people can actually use and Enjoy Now obviously there's other ways to get your weekly shonen Or otherwise manga
Starting point is 01:31:20 On to a viewing device for yourself But that's pretty annoying compared to it just being supported natively Um Yeah, well I think Currently the like for me personally, I think the only thing Coming out a jump that uh I was curious to start was chainsaw man
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah, like I'd like to read chainsaw man. I'd like to read hero academia. I would like to read one piece, etc Uh, but uh like one piece specifically Looks a little small on the kindle Okay, I don't know. I don't know if it's the if it's the the the panel sizing Or or what now the french libraries had manga rental do Can you rent manga for In english for the kindle?
Starting point is 01:32:22 Yeah, dude. I like currently I have no idea like the library stuff is great But I don't have a library card in bc right now. Okay Yeah Right all my all my id still says the quibac Because that would be oh, but yeah, perfect. I'm very much enjoying reading my books I will uh when I finish anything I will talk about it. I mean cosmos is cosmos Do you want to learn about the history of fucking Learn about space a little bit?
Starting point is 01:32:52 I mean to read that book. It's good. We're gonna read pale blue dot afterwards, which is about being a tiny little dot That's a good one. I read that decades ago. I'm rereading them Uh after that though, I have a huge list of shit. I have dark tower. I've got wheel of time I've got game of thrones, which I cannot believe The sit now that I so like I loaded up the kindle And uh at some point like 10 years ago. I guess I got game of thrones for free e-book wise because it was sitting there on my account And I'm like wow I must have gotten that like 10 years ago and uh, it's still up to date, huh?
Starting point is 01:33:35 Is uh good good thing no new books came out in that period Uh, is it uh, is 100 years of solitude on that list? Nope throw that on there. Should it be throw that on there? Okay All right 100 years of solitude Uh Yes, so yeah, I got all the fucking witcher shit on there
Starting point is 01:34:02 Just like basically I I never actually finished lord of the rings ever Oh, yeah, so just like I I really need to just go back and just like here's all the shit That I should have like kept up with or read over the past 10 years and when I'm done with all of that I'm probably gonna start on like Brandon Sanderson stuff And maybe some uh, maybe some goddamn Steven Hawking like brief history of time stuff like that What is 100 years of solitude? You've mentioned it before but I can't quite remember Uh, basically it's uh, columbian author telling a story of a family
Starting point is 01:34:42 um Over the course of 100 years. It's just a multi the family that founds a village and then it follows different generations of um, their descendants over the course of a century and the descendants all have Wild lives and crazy things and um, well, I'll be there's no digital version of that book huh No, shit that's crazy Like I thought I was crazy when I when I 100 years of solitude
Starting point is 01:35:16 e-book Yeah, as I'm describing the setup. It's kind of like the beginning of incanto I guess a little bit. Oh, there it is. It's just only on the chapters dot indigo dot ca website I see okay. Well, there you go. It's it's one of them. I'll try to remember Yeah, it'd be wild if there wasn't like in digital format. It's it's one of the like most influential books. It's fucking solid um But yeah, anyway, it's just kind of like the beginning of incanto But then it's very much not like incanto after that it gets pretty fucking
Starting point is 01:35:49 I'm uh I'm really excited to to really add my add myself into uh, the book community in which it's just as violently tribal as the fucking video game business In terms of I like that book that book sucks You shouldn't read that I got what I said that I oh, I have all these like predominantly like old fantasy novels Like I just got like a shit ton of like Oh, we'll get out of here. Don't read that. You should fucking read this shit and like I don't See I I don't I'm not gonna do that. Well when you're done waiting in shallow kiddie pool waters
Starting point is 01:36:32 You can start getting into the deep end of ebooks and go find yourself some of those amazon um, you know erotic literature entries Uh of which there's There's some five star shit out there Uh, you want to I'm a wolf man, and I'm pregnant again. Oh, yeah. No, you want to load that kindle up with uh pastors eat pussy, too I
Starting point is 01:37:03 You want to get in there? Uh It's important Important reading to throw on the list man. There's uh, there's a lot of garbage out there There's a there's a lot. Um, and um So there's a weird disconnect here because I'm living with my wife page aka peach saliva who has a long history of just finding the most garbage
Starting point is 01:37:30 Like amateur writing. Mm-hmm. That's not published And running it with it and I've I've tended to read What I'm gonna call real books Right, but I've never dipped my toe into Amateur garbage that became a real book Because that's like a whole different fucking universe I mean I'm taking a look here and and and you know
Starting point is 01:38:02 That's a solid 99 cents to get your hands on a kindle edition of pastors eat pussy, too, so You know And once you do that you can get into the whole collection By quan mills including my psycho baby daddy Um, why did you have this ready? Oh, don't you know just you want to talk about what you're putting on your kindle? That uh, we go then it's time to go into the deep end. You know get out of the kiddie pool Yeah
Starting point is 01:38:35 That doesn't answer my question at all how about The classic five star 2018 bestseller this ho got roaches in her crib Oh, no, that sounds promising 99 cents man, that sounds pretty promising I Anyways when you're ready Get in there. I don't know
Starting point is 01:39:07 I don't know game hoes love to play minx story a prequel to ho his life Oh, I see you got to get the origin story first No, I think I'm gonna read my fucking uh astrophysics books. Okay. Well, you know, that's fine. That's fine I think that's what I'm gonna do that You got options is all I'm You got options I'm getting I'm getting fucking Get I'm getting this page and I got you got you got discord popping up page. Take notes. Take notes. All right
Starting point is 01:39:48 Write it down calling me a big baby Kwan Mills write it down I can't escape from this shit. No, I'm not gonna read pornography I don't want to read pornography. It's it's erotic literature. Okay. Oh, shut the fuck up you piece of shit The words create an image in the mind All right, anyways I Don't I don't
Starting point is 01:40:23 You got to spell it. It's p p w u s s y by the way. There's a w You don't she wants me to tell you that she's writing it down. Okay. She's she's getting it. Okay. Don't misspell it. It's important I'm gonna walk. I'm gonna just be what ah fuck off You fuck off. I'm gonna be walking around the house and I'm gonna just get fuck it You know, you know, you're talking about running crusader sets and you're just quoting bible verses I'm gonna be just sitting there and all of a sudden i'm gonna get highly narrated complete garbage smut broadcast at me I mean as long as we uh We keep it to us
Starting point is 01:41:02 you know I don't know Fuck off Now i'm upset. Anyway, do you want to talk about neon white? I mean, it's either that or I go into the summary of the of the book right here About nashana new new spearman a local chicago native that lives her life one simple motto at a time Use what you got to get what you want nashana new new spearman
Starting point is 01:41:30 She's a certified bad bish that knows how to use her honey to make money But when One of her many money honey making plans falls through she suddenly finds herself having to live normally for once The prospect of prison forces her to take a plea deal that requires community service That's how she ends up in the company of a popular south side of chicago pastor Who's also running for mayor of the city? One thing leads to another and new new finds herself scheming and scamming once again But will her plans backfire find out more in pastors eat pussy too
Starting point is 01:42:14 What's going on what was that what what's up? Mm-hmm I got my spaghetti now. You can't hurt me. Okay. Well moving on I got my dry spaghetti Anyway, so You Need to play neon white neon white is Is one of those games that comes out and you go? I know exactly who this is for
Starting point is 01:42:44 And it's for you. Okay specifically. Okay neon neon white is a minimalist speed running game in the vein of Kind of almost like mirror's edge but less parkour and more just optimizing moving through a 3d environment fast While shooting enemies that are basic like they they're they're demons or whatever. They're fucking targets. They're they're break
Starting point is 01:43:12 It's break the targets in first person smash in first person and It's gimmick is that one it has incredible aesthetics It's got a great look particularly like the really super clean 3d. I don't know if you've seen what it looks like I have I saw the trailer. Yep um
Starting point is 01:43:32 and I was originally concerned because your your cards are guns So your your guns are cards your guns are cards. Yeah Yeah, it really just they didn't want to draw the gun sure that that's they wanted it to be clean. That's that's my takeaway and it's Uh, shoot the gun with right trigger Jump with left trigger because jump is that vital And then right bumper is used the gun's alternate fire which uses it up
Starting point is 01:44:03 So with a handgun, it's a jump with a submachine gun It is a bomb that you can rocket jump with with uh The other submachine gun. It's a stomp that goes super fast And with the sniper rifle. It's a dash that breaks through obstacles, but also moves you forward 10 feet instantly Okay, you what you went straight to gamepad
Starting point is 01:44:30 um I'm like if Now I remember like ghost runner had a whole situation where pad versus using mouse and keyboard Was detrimental In this case So i'm gonna say right now that uh using mouse and keyboard is likely optimal. Mm-hmm Just because of the spin
Starting point is 01:44:52 um into uh gamepad. I was able to get um par times um after just a few times and um It has astonishingly aggressive auto aim Like for for shooting enemies. Okay, so to mitigate the controller stuff
Starting point is 01:45:14 But if you want to get the absolute Fastest times The mouse and keyboard are definitely the way to go. Yeah, okay. Um It is it is a really weird game because Uh clearing it under a certain time unlocks your ghost clearing it under the next best time Unlocks a hint as to how to shave time off the stage Uh and then unlocks a hidden item in the stage that you can use to do social link style shit with your other fellow neons
Starting point is 01:45:46 That really just play out like persona s links. I'm hearing about some vn Like yeah relationship content it jumps between visual novel and Uh and speed running game um But it is just so excellently tuned And feel so fucking smooth to actually get your times down on these levels also after doing a quick
Starting point is 01:46:14 bit of work Is that uh, basically you you keep playing it and you unlock your friends leaderboard first And then if you beat the par time you unlock the global Okay, and then i've been led to know that there's actually a hidden Clear time underneath that that is the assumption that it is the dev time Okay, but it doesn't surface it to you at all. It's just if you manage to get it It will ping it and be like this is This is about as fast as you're gonna go
Starting point is 01:46:48 You could probably shave a second or two off, but it's it's real in there speed running elements aside is the progression through it like Just oh, it's great. Generally. Yeah solid. Okay, like you need to speed run a little because um Getting a gold or getting a I guess a blue metal uh Kicks your rank up and you need to have a certain rank in order to go to the next set of levels
Starting point is 01:47:17 Oh, okay But getting gold is easy Like I got most of my my my missions on gold on my first try Getting getting the blue is significantly harder And it scales in difficulty as you go. Uh, it's just great and it has a tone That I can't explain I don't know how to how to put this
Starting point is 01:47:48 It seems like a pretty average well written anime type visual novel with a weird premise um until you're hanging out with yellow neon yellow that is and He's cringe Personally, okay
Starting point is 01:48:08 um in that You are talking to him and he is relating that back in the day. You guys used to be bros that uh That you were like his sasuke bro Okay Yeah, uh arguments between characters as to
Starting point is 01:48:29 What the deal with the matrix is? um being voiced by a plus talent So as people are uh the the tone people are describing is tunami a lot of people saying tunami show but That is not working As a canadian that does not have tunami. That doesn't mean anything. It's a cartoon network Probably I mean i've seen it as it's the main character is steve bloom. Okay And it's steve bloom doing his best, uh, dude. I was in cowboy bebop
Starting point is 01:48:59 Okay It's really good. It's really really excellent And the music is i'm not familiar with the artist but the artist is named machine girl um And the music's great It's it's fantastic. I I can't recommend it to you specifically enough Interesting. Okay. I mean the trailer. I remember watching you fly through mirror's edge And it's definitely that kind of that core
Starting point is 01:49:25 The the trailer peeked my interest certainly seemed like it could be something. Um The card the cards as guns things was definitely like an odd, you know A bit about it and it and it did look like From what the trailer was showing at least it was like, um You know like modest budget Doing a stylistic thing. Um, so Yeah, if it's if if that's how it sounds and you're not the only one a couple other people as well have been like saying like Yo, go check this out. I got I got wind. It seems tailor made for you specifically
Starting point is 01:49:59 Okay, to the point where the antagonist is neon green Fun Uh, let's see. I also beat vampire survivors. What? Okay I'm pretty I think I'm far in at this point like I'm now
Starting point is 01:50:23 I think I've done like the boss fight sequence that unlocked In the corridor. Yeah Right, okay, and then like and I have access to like I guess like the the new list of weapons and such. Uh, I'm missing a few um Upgrade versions of things when I check the achievement list But I'm getting pretty close to having have like done most of it
Starting point is 01:50:53 So the last patch put out a Straight up final boss to the game Uh in mission five Uh at minute 30 a actual boss shows up um and uh dealing with him unlocks the last batch of achievements as well as Uh, the most broken gameplay change the the game has made so far
Starting point is 01:51:22 Like bar none You unlock, uh, the limit breakability which lets you keep leveling your weapons up past their cap. Oh wow, okay Yeah, say no more. That's done. That's done. Um, yeah Also, the boss was really easy Which makes me think that the dev calling it the final boss is full of fucking shit Um And at 1.0 will I actually have the final boss I have to say that I'm
Starting point is 01:51:58 as As the the little like later sequences started to show up and you know characters and and shops and such and the card mechanic um You know and then that little bit where it like you get a uh Uh, I don't know. I guess like ui like fuckery You know, yeah, uh, where you like it's it kind of shows off that it's like, okay I don't this has way more effort put into it on the back end than it lets on and
Starting point is 01:52:33 I guess the intention was for you to see it and kind of dismiss it as this must have you know Four hours worth of like content at best and then you just kind of mix and match it Um, well, so but it's all back loaded The best part is that when you uh, so you got to that that that corridor boss fight like after its own update But he put out update 6.2 And then when you beat that corridor boss the game would update itself to 6.6.6
Starting point is 01:53:09 Which was its real version number. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay um Yeah I I'm just I'm so I'm going back through it and like the current list of objectives. I have is unlock all upgrades um buy all shop things and then like um
Starting point is 01:53:32 You know, whatever buy all the shit you can but um I guess I'm just the one thing I'm looking at is like I'm looking at those cards and I'm just like I don't even know Where to start with that I will tell you right now Where to start The red guy the the demon looking guy
Starting point is 01:53:52 I forget he gets an extra life. Yeah Okay, get him to level 99 because his card is the best card Okay, his card gives you three extra lives and every time you die It increases all your stats by five percent Permanently there are two extra lives. Yeah. Wow. So when you start the match you just pick that one And then you get you have three lives instead of one and if you bought the extra life in the store now you have four lives Jesus christ. Okay Yeah, just that will carry you for a while everything is busted forever like it's just
Starting point is 01:54:33 Like it's it's it's fun. How busted it can get There's one that I recently unlocked that turns off experience You can't you can't gain experience anymore. Okay But it turns every single experience gem into a homing tracking missile So you you have shit fighting as you kill shit it changes the whole fucking game into a completely different game Um Yeah, I I like the
Starting point is 01:55:11 I like the mine cart Getting stupid big and just kind of like working a horizontal build with that Um But I can use your favorite character Um I'd say so like the the the red. Yeah, so the demon guy with the you know, the cross is pretty solid with the res um, but for like Pretty much guaranteed clears. I feel like either the witch with the
Starting point is 01:55:44 Um, totally vertical song of mana. Yep That you mean pecorino that shit's really good And it lingers in a such a way where you can make it active until the next one starts so it never stops Yeah, um And the old man that starts with garlic is pretty solid too. He gets a nice rolling start Personally, I've I've been in love ever since I unlocked them There's that whole tier of guys that their special ability is extra projectiles at levels 20 40 20 40 60
Starting point is 01:56:20 And for me like I picked morta who's the skeleton and just other bones Like if you want if you want to grab like it's really bad for the area one So it's terrible for garlic for example because garlic doesn't have a projectile But like you want to see just fucking a shit zillion rune tracers firing off simultaneously with Just the stupidest goddamn amount of axes firing out Like oh, that's the pandas good too. Yeah, you guys are right. The pandas really strong also What's the point of um the forest? Which forest the the level that's just all plants
Starting point is 01:56:57 It's kind of just like a passive almost like training. I think it's actually labeled as a bonus level. Yeah, it's a bonus level There might there might be a secret in there a secret, I mean but The bonus levels just seem super weird. Yeah, okay There's a lot of hidden characters and and little hidden bosses around Um, there's a like bone zone has a secret character all the way at the top of the map for example, but I haven't gotten yet um
Starting point is 01:57:33 So yeah vampire survivors I beat it I'm at until next now Until next time. It's it's a it's a great way to play an early access game Like very few early access games have this kind of thing. I usually think just substantially improve over time But this one is like no here's another like level essentially um I also decided to go out and try The other vampire survivor games
Starting point is 01:58:03 Oh, yeah, that the the I tried out all the notables in the genre where you got to shoot for yourself Uh, some of them you got to shoot for yourself some of them not Uh, let's start with project Lazarus. It's the unreal engine version of vampire survivors Uh, it's cool. I guess it's not very good It's Okay, I guess
Starting point is 01:58:33 Then there's 20 minutes till dawn which has a fairly unique art style, but you have to shoot for yourself But it is really cool and it has a lot of cool upgrades and it has a different type of upgrade system that uh, vampire survivors has uh, the characters are a lot More uh differentiated than they are in vampire survivors So 20 minutes till dawn is pretty good. So 3d doesn't add anything then really no doesn't add shit. Yep. Yep. Look at that um and in a surprise shocking twist
Starting point is 01:59:08 By far the only game to come close to vampire survivors and it actually comes pretty close Is a completely free indie game called holo cure Which is the holo live fan game vampire survivors clone That some guy just made And it's excellent It's really really excellent Uh, like your your starting roster is amegura
Starting point is 01:59:49 Uh, cali Oh, I forget the other two, but just like the it's the holo live gang um And every single goddamn thing in it is a holo live restaurant reference, which I don't get um and It is Mechanically more in depth than vampire survivors is It looks the most like it. Yeah for at a glance here
Starting point is 02:00:21 So it's really unashamedly. Hey, I like vampire survivors Um, but it oh, it's oh, it's made by the sprite artist for river city girls. Okay That explains a lot um But 20 minutes till dawn looks pretty stylish in terms of color and yeah, it is uh It's good, but the one that that scratches the itch the closest is definitely holo cure
Starting point is 02:00:50 Uh, the main thing is that one you don't shoot yourself important. It's automatic Uh, the second thing is that all the characters have weapons that are actually completely unique to them as their starter weapon Like cali has the scythe and gura has like tried and you don't just get it later Yeah, that have their own upgrades and their own mechanics. Okay. Um, and It also adds a new button To the formula which is the strafe Which I didn't realize I wanted until I started to use it But holy fuck is the strafe like killer and I would kill for the strafe button in vampire survivors
Starting point is 02:01:36 You know when you're shooting the daggers and vampire survivors, you have to keep facing the direction And you have to keep facing that direction. What if you just hit a button and it would just hold that direction And then you could move freely damn. Okay, because if you were because I don't want to shoot But I would not you don't want to shoot. I don't want to shoot But I wouldn't mind aiming Yeah, aiming would be yeah, it'd be good, right? Or at the very least just being able to lock it down to aim Mm-hmm. Uh, yeah, no a holo cure is
Starting point is 02:02:12 Really really really impressive Um, particularly since it's completely free No shoot just strafe Uh, and they're these updating it for free Uh, and it is improving over time to add more characters Um, it has one problem And that problem is significant that problem is that the way to unlock new characters is through a unironic literal gotcha coin operated thing in the game
Starting point is 02:02:52 Using in game currency, of course Using the in instead of using gold to get an upgrade you would use gold to Play a gotcha game play the gotcha game and hopefully you'll get a shiny girl Okay And if you dupe, what do you get for the dupe? I don't know. I don't know Someone will hopefully answer me soon If you get repeats it upgrades those characters
Starting point is 02:03:21 No, that's infinite. That's actually great Damn it One percent increase to all stats god damn it. I see I see okay Uh All right, fuck all right But yeah, no, it's absolutely excellent And in fact, I was playing it and I was playing as Cali and uh turns out when I was streaming it I was streaming an old version of the game because people were like, oh dude, you have it before the the fucking Cali buff
Starting point is 02:03:57 Which is It's it's weird. It's it's bizarre Um, and I'm torn because on the on the wait there are supers I see a screenshot of a giant beam There's a big old Fucking marvel versus capcom Mexi beam blast it out
Starting point is 02:04:18 Okay, well Yeah, the it's it's How did I not unlock that I played I played three runs, man I played three runs with you fuck off. Well, yeah, no, holo cure is uh Is absolutely excellent It is it is the only game in this versioning genre That is able to stand up with vampire survivors and it's free Uh, however your
Starting point is 02:04:48 Your particular enjoyment of the holo cure is going to very wildly According to how much you like holo live Um, I don't understand a single enemy gag In in this game like everything is clearly like a thing and I'm sitting there going ha ha Shoot that I don't fucking know. I don't know shit Whereas when I played vampire survivors, I do know castellania. Yeah
Starting point is 02:05:25 Well, you're not supposed to I mean ultimately is is Is the takeaway there if you wander into that side of the forest and you don't recognize The trees that's that's as designed, you know um But what you are supposed to recognize is when you get a game over screen Even the font they use On the on the buttons is identical to vampire survivors here Like yeah, it's it's it is it it is it is not pretending
Starting point is 02:06:00 Unequivocal like this is a a fan game of not just the holo live girls, but also of vampire survivors It is it is absolutely I want to and the other thing is the game only has one stage right now It's actually like almost brand new. Oh like I want to say it's like like six weeks old Oh, that's not a lot there at all then. Oh, okay Yeah, um, so do you have to aim in? Uh, the 20 or 30 seconds 30 minutes to survive. Yes, you do you have to aim. Do you have to aim in project Lazarus? Okay in plot and in project Lazarus you have to aim In 20 minutes still dawn you have to aim and shoot
Starting point is 02:06:51 Is It even really a vampire survivors genre game if you have to aim and shoot yes, it very it very clearly is but okay, um it is Like I genuinely believe 20 minutes till dawn would be a much better game if you didn't shoot the gun yourself If they just remove that button and it was automatic. Oh god We're now arguing for the cookie clicker mechanics like that's what it's become Like I think so this is gonna sound crazy
Starting point is 02:07:28 I think hollow cure adding a super and the strafe button Is the absolute in maximum pushing it. Yeah. Yeah most mechanical complexity you can go for Mm-hmm Like your your your straight your dodging ability is what is tested when you play vampire survivors Right your your ability to graze and and move and you know navigate the defensive aspects of bullet hell um selectively timing a bomb is
Starting point is 02:08:01 Okay, it's adding some input, you know Let's uh and the strafe is in fact solving a problem that like you said I didn't know I I would want that but Actually firing the gun I'm not down. That's not what I play these games for that's not what I'm tuning in firing the gun actually sucks in like like I'm playing 20 minutes still dawn and I'm like this is a really cool twin stick shooter
Starting point is 02:08:33 And I'm just constantly annoyed that I'm having to shoot the gun at all Yeah, yeah, no, I want brain off If I want to do brain on with this type of gameplay, I will go play enter the gungeon Sure, sure. Um, I'll go play any classic schmup You know play nuclear throne. I'll play, you know, whatever Uh, I want I want To move my little character and have lots of things on the screen Yeah, um that is all
Starting point is 02:09:07 That that's exactly that's exactly it like I like I'm still working on zero ranger because it's it's fucking excellent but it's also fucking hard and Uh, that is when I want to legitimately test my skills and and push it to the limit when I want brain off Fuck you auto fire shut up Uh, okay. Okay. Those are the those are the comparisons Um, I like the sound of of of the strafe button as you said I like that, you know But I but the fact is it's only one stage tells me, um to wait Wait for now. So they they focus a lot more strongly on adding characters than stages
Starting point is 02:09:49 Um, and the characters in hollow cure are significantly different Compared to the vampire survivors one the vampire survivor one said they have their little perk And they have their starting weapon other people get all of that as well Yeah, the hollow cure thing is like they have their weapon which is unique and then that weapon has its own unique upgrade path unique to itself so, um Well, they add more stages probably right
Starting point is 02:10:22 Okay Yeah, that's pretty much it for pat this week I think If you want to see more pat go down to twitch.tv slash pat stairs at i'm gonna be Playing, uh, my nervous den the bow shock dlc I'm gonna be playing a new horror game called madison Uh
Starting point is 02:10:44 More i somnium files which is Hit the absolute absurdity with the number six that I don't even want to talk about it anymore Uh, and uh on friday. I'm planning a fucking I don't give a shit stream So I don't know what the fuck i'm gonna do with it. It's probably gonna be a bunch of bullshit Peach will probably be here Also doing some bullshit. I don't know So show up for that on on friday. Also, I forgot that I beat by a shock two Oh, wow. Yeah, okay. What a what a what a way better final level in that game than by a shock one
Starting point is 02:11:26 Like way better Like I said, it's just a good level, but it feels like they're so scared of what happened With atlas that they're just like we have to run the other way Um, yeah and go with the waves And yeah, well, you know what final boss being like a wave of a shit ton of enemies Considering that that's been a normal gameplay like protecting little sister's thing like that's fine that's
Starting point is 02:11:56 That's fine um I mean I I I came to learn about the struggle of Like fps bosses like after that. I didn't know that that was a genre problem For such a long time. We we were talking about I was actually specifically talking about like immersive sim bosses But fps bosses has that problem like even worse And like that system just Like is so tough to make good bosses in
Starting point is 02:12:26 And I mean and like wasn't that the era of like articles like it's time to do away with boss fights Because they were just because like you're just talking about playing fps games and not like Rad shit where there's great. Well, no, it's it's because that was the seventh generation And so you had games like mass effect and bioshock and arkham totally dominating the conversation Right and so you're talking about joker and atlas and Yeah, and it's like oh human revolution and and like and no one's talking about devil may cry. Right, right, right? During the era in which japanese games just suck dude
Starting point is 02:13:06 Remember that? Well, um, yeah, it aggressively runs the other way from the problem, but I guess I'm just like I the ideal for me would just be like a not shitty boss as opposed to like The safe wave, you know, so I they do have a they do have a double boss fight against the the big sisters prior to that Which is actually pretty good But uh, yeah, no, they don't have a I like it like my feeling on it was just like, yeah, all right fine. You avoided the problem um
Starting point is 02:13:42 I would I would have liked something Like just again a good set piece into boss, you know, but If you can't and you're like this is outside of our ability then You know, all right. Yeah, that'll do that'll do but I would I enjoyed it either like either way like and again, I was I was going like big daddy build or whatever, but um That was how I felt it was like a bit of a You know just uh, I guess a bit of a cop out because they couldn't fix what what they went with the first time
Starting point is 02:14:17 So Bioshock 2 to my knowledge right now Um congrats It's easily the best bioshock game because it's better than bioshock 1 and boy is it a lot better than infinite But what's even weirder is that I've been told over and over That the uh dlc campaign, which is like four hours long called the nervous den Is unironically the best part of bio 2. Yeah, and so it's like Cool the best bioshock game is the dlc campaign
Starting point is 02:14:49 Yeah from the second game that wasn't made by any of the original devs. It's almost like a new vegas situation It was the multiplayer team that that did the nervous den Uh, I don't know but bioshock 2 was made uh by a different it was not made by the the core bioshock 1 team uh bioshock 2 Let's find out because I I that that's it was It was developed by 2k or in Okay, instead of 2k Uh, so like
Starting point is 02:15:26 Hmm Good good job everybody, you know, I mean I just that's a just beat the same drums over and over again, but like You know what fight fucking rules, uh the viper Viper was awesome. Yeah viper was good I don't know Like it's not impossible. It's not in you know, it's not something that it's not impossible Like hey man, I really really loved doom eternal I did not love any of doom eternal's boss fights
Starting point is 02:16:09 It's just Um It's just not Yeah, no, um What's the fucking Cyber demon in doom originally in 2016 was like probably Yeah, that was the best one. That was the height of that I'd say I'd say it's high cyber demon was fucking super cool
Starting point is 02:16:37 Um icon of sin was terrible Just awful And um, I I take it then that dlc doesn't uh Doesn't get close with that either Oh, no, in fact the final boss of the first dlc in eternal is terrible Just awful fight the boss while the while ads float in and the Environment randomly changes how dangerous it is
Starting point is 02:17:07 Like laser walls and burning floors and awful awful And if you uh, and if you don't like marauders like there was a very strong Argument as to whether or not you like marauders or not if you don't like marauders then man, you're really Really gonna hate the final boss of the last dlc because it's basically a super marauder Okay, well anyway, the point being that like examples exist of like the the good ones, you know, so Yeah, anyway, you want good content He's bored with your life or whatever go down to the twitch.tv slash pat stairs that i'm going to do a show
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Starting point is 02:31:30 And i'm having a bit of this is a bit of my week, but I forgot i'm having a bit of a pants problem Uh, the most of the pants we can't tell now Yeah, you can't tell No Okay, good. Um, they could be fucking off Yeah, I mean no, I got I got I got pajama pants on but that's different. Um Um, I lost 40 pounds over the past two months. That's a lot of pounds Yeah, which is giving me a pants problem
Starting point is 02:32:01 in that My fucking pants are falling down off my fucking still fat, but not quite as fat ass Um Congratulations, which which has put me in the bizarre position of no longer fat enough to Hold up pants with girth But still slightly too fat for most belts I would buy at the store That's why you go with the elastics
Starting point is 02:32:34 Yeah That's the that's the that's the all adjustment way to go with it But yeah, that's uh, so like I'm in this weird space where I I lost 40 pounds And I'm standing in a store looking at belts and despite being like numerically thinner I felt more embarrassed about my waistline than I have in years Because I'm looking at the number Um I mean that's a good problem to have of course. It's it's a better problem to have than
Starting point is 02:33:08 the alternative then There was there was the whole I'm gonna tell this story. Oh boy. There was the there was the moment There was the moment that I was sitting there And page and I both were like no gotta cut down Nope, this this is gone too far And it's the time I got down It was the last winter When I I sat down and we went I had to go somewhere
Starting point is 02:33:35 And I went to go put the seat belt across and it was like No And and she's like are you serious and I'm like hold on hold on. I got this I got this And like I like like I like sucked it in And I like like tilted and I got it and and and we were both like Oh, no, this is This is this is no longer Like ha ha pat. You should lose some weight. I care about you. This is uh
Starting point is 02:34:07 The internal actualization of oh, no, I'm a fat bitch There's always a catalyst. There's always a catalyst and that's the moment where you either Uh, yeah, you make or break and The the decisions you make in that moment when the seat belt will not click Yeah That's important because the I'll tell you the next step Is straight to the drive around wall mart shopping seat
Starting point is 02:34:41 Yeah, that whatever that thing is Straight to the wagon straight to the the hover around whatever thing, you know, just yeah So I will clarify My darling wife never actually told me to lose weight. She always said to eat healthier Which is related, right? um but People are asking 40 pounds in two months
Starting point is 02:35:07 How'd you do it? Well? I moved away from a place that made me sad That's step one Uh, and then I went somewhere where I can walk around all the time in nice weather and Uh, it's pleasant outside and nobody mean to me So I get my steps in and then uh I live in a place and under a system in which my wife tells me what I'm allowed to eat
Starting point is 02:35:36 And why I can't have an extra tart I think that last one Does a lot it helps it helps a lot. Mm-hmm. It helps a lot Be being it being in a place where is just like don't know don't eat that. I'm like, okay That's probably the secret. Okay. That's probably the secret that I mean People pay lots of money for that Yeah, to just have the person that says hey Hey
Starting point is 02:36:13 No, also, I don't I don't know. Yeah, really Um, I don't know how much of it it matters, but I'm also completely completely off of energy drinks I have okay one a week Okay, and it's and it's usually on this show. I don't have one today because I had one yesterday I've switched all the way over to tea That's that's pretty fucking healthy. Okay So yeah, that's cool
Starting point is 02:36:49 But now but I don't know. Hey, willy you you've gone up and down a couple pounds over the past 10 years, right? but there's something that I'm running into that, um feels really Almost disassociative In which I'll come on to the show and people could see me right and they go. Oh, I haven't been here in a couple months Is Pat awesome way and I'm like, oh, that's nice
Starting point is 02:37:15 Uh, but then I look at myself And it's literally exactly the same Like identical. Yes, and like I see no difference Um, yeah, that is I mean, so there's two things one Us flattering camera angle lighting and such will sometimes give a perspective of being more
Starting point is 02:37:45 Bigger or smaller than you actually are and I remember People would make those remarks when there was a time when I wasn't fluctuating at all and I would still get like, oh Like something's changed and it's like, no, it's just the camera. It's the really the same shit um, but yes, what you see of yourself is Conditioned, you know, and I mean it also is like a proven thing that like, I mean, there's lots of people that like What you see of yourself after that conditioning is like, um
Starting point is 02:38:18 Somewhat dissociated from what's actually happening Um, so for example, um, I know I I learned about how For some people, for example, like, um that have like eating disorders a lot of the time There's a test that was done where um, they take a picture of your full body And then stretch it out to ridiculous 1000% width and then yeah, the experiment is with no mirrors or anything
Starting point is 02:38:51 Put it back to where you think a hundred percent uh accurate ratio is and um People fluctuate, but generally Uh, a lot of the time we'll get it, you know, within a 5 10 margin of error to like, you know, one way or the other And something that popped that that was notable is that like for example people with eating disorders a lot of the time
Starting point is 02:39:15 ended up seeing 30 above Yeah, the expected amount so you would see like 130 as the expected target So like that's something where it's like that's actually what they're adjusting it to so you see things differently I will say uh, well that that rings true and the other thing is that I saw somebody say it's almost like you see yourself every day mm-hmm Like instead of a You know a gradual change instead. It's it's like for most people. It's like, oh, I haven't seen you last week or whatever
Starting point is 02:39:47 Um, you mentioned eating disorders. I don't think I had an eating disorder. I mean, it's just like all I can think of is that um Uh, if I got sad my mom would be like here's a cookie and then the cookie would make me happy. Mm-hmm That's that's normal, right? I mean, yeah, I would I would say so um No, not that not the to imply that I think thought that was the case It's just more of an interesting thing about how our self-perception can
Starting point is 02:40:15 Be warped sometimes and then and then when I was an adult on my own And I was if I got really sad I was like wait a second If one cookie makes you happy What if you ate 400 cookies You'd be 400 times as happy. Oh my god. It's just math It's that I mean that's just that's just straight up right there Yeah
Starting point is 02:40:48 Uh, but yeah, no losing weight's weird It is you know, I do I do feel a little different though because Uh, I remember walking this dog And me and the dog would get back to the house and we would both be like Uh Like both of us like like a pair And now I'll get back to the house and I'm like
Starting point is 02:41:12 Huh, that was good and the dog is like His eyes rolling back in his fucking head and he's like he just falls down to the door and he's like I walked you for 10 minutes Mm-hmm What a real good test I feel is especially like something that I remember doing especially during fluctuation is like Hit the staircase that you that the next staircase you can and see the difference in how you feel at the top of it you know like
Starting point is 02:41:45 And and does it go from like Okay, that that was a that took some work versus like All right. I mean I'm okay versus nothing. You know, yeah That's a nice little quick test. I would say Well, the other thing that's actually really bizarre about all this like genuinely Uh, is that my overall appetite has decreased by like 60 percent. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Like that's a cool part too Page page will make like uh page made here's a really good example right before the podcast page made uh french toast for us
Starting point is 02:42:22 And she put three slices of french toast there and I got to the last slice of french toast and I'm like No, can't let litter literally can't I would feel sick if I ate that and I'm thinking back to like the pad of six months ago Where that wouldn't have been a problem at all Yeah, no, that's uh That that in in the bouncing around that was something I noticed as well
Starting point is 02:42:56 And I mean interestingly too like it it was also I know a byproduct of at least doing keto-ish things is An an appetite reduction, which is nice because then you have a multiplier effect, which makes it easier to not like Uh, it makes it easier to stay on the right path because you don't feel hungry anymore to Overdo it. Yeah There is a force multiplier One minor weird factor in it though Which is uh, probably too late to change Which is uh, there was a there like there have been days in which it's like 9 p.m.
Starting point is 02:43:36 And I'm like, oh, I haven't eaten anything which is definitely a first for me Right and that's bad because the way I notice is that I'm like I'm about to fall down Huh, that's oh, there was been no food in me ever But I swear to god if you if you put down like a candy bar in front of me, I could eat that until I barfed Bag of reasons more specifically the the the fucking the fucking different stomach for sweets Uh, it's like like I'm like the french toast like okay I I will literally vomit if I have another one. Oh, I'm so full But if you were to float like a child like a four pound chocolate bunny in front of me
Starting point is 02:44:21 I could just kill myself with it So I've never had that punch mom has that always has the ability to like make extra room for like something desserty Uh for me when I'm full I'm full. It's really interesting like yeah, I I'm personally it's always been Like I've never had a a rather and I've never felt that I I've had like excess amounts of like eating and overeating as a part of my diet I feel like it's always mainly been like I don't have enough activity going on. Um And I'm not I'm not moving around as much and like well, I mean we're getting a lot of steps in sitting here doing this podcast
Starting point is 02:45:03 certainly and and so Like yeah, that's that's always been the thing and when I and and you know, I always had this like sort of look at it Where I was like, I don't really actually consume that much when I when I'm writing it down and looking at it um, but It's really just a matter of like I guess mobility and then combining that with like, you know, my body retains quite a bit it feels um
Starting point is 02:45:30 By comparison to uh, you know others I feel and And let me ask you a question. If I put a gun to your head, how many cantebrate cream eggs could you eat right now? I mean, I haven't had one in years, but oh, yeah, you you went cold turkey on it uh, I mean Like I think like someone might have gotten me one as like a gift like Some months ago, but like it's just not a part of my intake at all really. Um No, I what I what ended up what ends up happening is like I'll wake up and Like do the stream start at one like I wake up
Starting point is 02:46:07 I'll you know have some have an energy drink start the stream and then pretty much Yeah, not eat and then we'll be wrap will be done and then it'll be 8 p.m And I'll be like, I'm fucking really weak and tired and then I'll have a dinner You know and then that would pretty much be it um but like
Starting point is 02:46:31 You know and then I might and then I might have like another snack before like I go to bed at some point like later on in that day But like yeah, it's never been the intake for me. It's always just been the the the burn and the caloric output. I suppose Yeah, I think I think what might be the most disorienting moment for poor page was um I had like a like a tart in the morning once And I ate the tart and I'm like, oh, I'm really good with just the tart like I'm good I don't really need breakfast or whatever and it's like three four o'clock in the fucking afternoon and she's like, aren't you hungry? I'm like, no, no, I'm not hungry She's like, well, maybe maybe you have a second tart because she just wants to get the calories up or whatever
Starting point is 02:47:11 Because she's trying to Do right by me and I appreciate it and I'm and I said to her. No, I don't know if I get hungry. I'll just have one of the apples And she just like stared at me like I was like a fucking body snatcher. Mm-hmm Yep, and then then I was confused That's yeah, that's it weird. It's but it's it's cool that the brain will make it easier, you know, so Good shit maintain that You know do things that are obviously Sustainable changes as opposed to like
Starting point is 02:47:50 extreme temporary ones, you know Well, I always had the I always always had this thing Where I was like What if I just stopped eating? Mm-hmm Like what if I just stopped eating For long enough that it all just fell away and every time I would say that out loud Every person in my vicinity would be like that's fucking stupid pat. Yep. That's how you go to that's how it gets bad
Starting point is 02:48:21 That's how you get really really sick really really quickly But it just seems like such an obvious it seems like an obvious solution, but it's the worst And uh, yeah Don't fucking do it Um A lot of people and myself included are like, yeah, that'd probably work right and then no so Apparently your body likes to eat all the good parts before all the bad parts
Starting point is 02:48:51 That's what sticks around Yeah, yeah, um anyway hate to derail the podcast news section That's just not at all that is a healthy like hey belt specifically. No, man. I'm in a weird belt spot That is a that is a accomplishment. It is a excellent one and it is one that also is years in the making Uh when I made it down to my like lightest weight. I was extremely happy about that and I talked about it You know and it was very big as an accomplishment. So yeah, you did it Well the the worry here right because I still got quite a ways to go the worry here is that now I make it very clear on the podcast And then like backslided fuck up people check in six months from now
Starting point is 02:49:33 How much more and I'm like yeah negative five. Oh, yeah. Hey, who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Hey, how's the boxing going woolly? well I mean you control a global pandemic No, but like as a result of of you know that and just the rest of it like everybody It went badly and then shit just went right back on um It you know and then and then of course like I wish that um
Starting point is 02:50:03 For me it was as simple as like calories and calories out because that is what they say and yeah, um it that That would simplify the equation, but I noticed that like um Even when I was doing for example just boxing Um, yeah, there was a point at which I would like Just just do that and I would eat my three meals a day
Starting point is 02:50:25 Um, and that was just maintaining. I wasn't moving anywhere and that the only time it's plateaued, right? I plateaued So the only like there was a break point and then it stopped and it never broke through again So I realized like the only time I actively started losing weight was when I was doing boxing three times a week and running every single morning and doing my my um My uh macros on counting my calories on the on the tracker that's a lot And that is what it took for the number to go down and to stay going down so One step missing from all of those equations means plateau
Starting point is 02:51:01 Which doesn't seem normal, but it is but it is what I observed Over the course of years of trying this out You know, so that's what I need to do to get there again is get all three of those systems in place Which as you said is quite a lot, especially considering the work schedule. So That's what it's gonna take. But yeah What if I just got a big rubber band that rubbed my tummy like this? Jiggle it on a machine. Jiggle it. Yeah, would that would that do it? God if only they worked
Starting point is 02:51:34 Just what about that? What about that electrical pad that you slap on to shocks keep shocking your muscles? Yeah. Oh my god, that is I mean if you could get like Giant ripped fat abs on top of your fat. That'd be awesome. Oh the e Honda That'd be so cool if the the the electric shocks just did that You know, but um, yeah No, like that one always bothered me like if this worked Do you think it wouldn't just be the most famous fucking thing in the world?
Starting point is 02:52:08 Do you think you'd be seeing it at 2 a.m. On the goddamn infomercial? It's because they said Bruce Lee did it and that was all it took for that to stay A fucking info like 4 a.m. Commercial for the last 40 years, you know Anyways, um Good shit Keep it up Um So
Starting point is 02:52:39 Speaking of like I guess uncovering lost treasure Because your gut went down so you know, there's the inner you that's smaller and and it We're trying hard Garo mark of the wolves too Data disc has been found Really? Yes So there were originally leaks
Starting point is 02:53:13 about The fact that someone working on the team put out a Sprite sheet a couple years ago that basically said hey There was a game in development in s and k Called mark of the wolves too and these were some of the new characters that were going to be in it And we saw one sprite sheet with some some characters and it looked fucking cool
Starting point is 02:53:37 Um, there was nothing else to be said. We didn't know anything no details Aside from just that one picture and then the fact that it was cancelled obviously um So an account on twitter 2021 k duck Has been posting um and a japanese account that basically Put out a tweet saying the data of fatal fury mark of the wolves introduced in the last few days Was excavated from this cdr
Starting point is 02:54:08 It was a cdr left by mr k a hungry wolf team programmer who went to odiba when the old s and k moved to pachinko development um We've confirmed the temporary new background of mark of the wolves too And additional patterns for some characters. We'll organize and introduce them And we have a screenshot of two cdrs um a File yeah, he's just pulling out a bunch of shit Yep, uh a directory
Starting point is 02:54:38 Of just what the files are and then some assets some screenshots some just a bunch of sprites um Of course a lot of shit from mark of the wolves one in there But really interesting is some of the layers and work they had for the new characters in mark of the wolves two including um Some new like uh moi tai kids Who seemed to be students of joe higashi? Who's also great a sprites that you can see that shows up and he's injured His legs and arms are busted up. He's got a cast on and a
Starting point is 02:55:16 Crutch on his other hand and it looks like joe higashi. He's just like got super fucked up But he trained a student uh this moi tai girl Um And pick him with your knees girl. It's a good move hit him with the elbow Yeah, and some other kind of fun kids. There's this one little dude that looks like um kind of like a street newspaper seller He or you hear you extra extra type of kid Um, and then of course big bad-ass black guy with the fuzzy coat king cobra energy Uh, and then uh his little
Starting point is 02:55:56 Uh He's got like a little like side girl arm candy um two dudes in suits Some martial artist guy in a gi it was mark of the wolves man um looks fucking sick and Based on the idea that uh, there's gonna be more data coming soon I hope we can see it like if they put out a complete sprite sheet for the new characters
Starting point is 02:56:20 Even if there's no actual code of the game working that would be more than enough For some like mugen creators to just get to work, you know I've retweeted it a couple days ago. Why didn't that come out? Uh, well because it was right at the time when SNK was in the process of dying And becoming a pachinko company. Yeah, that yeah, that's true. Yeah, that did happen in the early aughts They they died and then uh, pachinko license Was that was uh sold off for all their brands?
Starting point is 02:57:02 And then they resurrected as playmore by having the original People come back and essentially buy the company out when they were part of sega sami holdings I would kill for the mark of the wharves to it would be fucking cool um So yeah, there's some sprites coming out now as well and you can go check this account out for like a whole bunch, but um The the exciting thing is like yeah, it doesn't seem like there's a bill did I don't think it got that far but um
Starting point is 02:57:35 lots of sprites Means like someone could do something. You know could be cool um We're gonna have to just wait and see what comes off of this disc but shout outs to mr. K from the The team hungry wolves who understood that you know um pachinko death is
Starting point is 02:58:00 A death worth leaking the real games that we're working on out at the time uh for so Yeah, that's a strange way to fucking phrase it If a game company in japan dies it doesn't really die it just becomes a pachinko get my that's it That's what happens when they officially circle of life out there is a little different You know in america they child for for bankruptcy You know um and and in in japan the whole company Just becomes a machine with a lover on it. Yeah, it's like uh It's like you see like a salary man and it's like he's like anamorphic into a pachinko cabinet
Starting point is 02:58:48 Uh You know and and i mean it's just Yeah It's it's rough going because like of course everyone on those teams has the option to Stick around and keep working on pachinko games. Oh, yeah. Do you want to keep working on the same team? I mean where i mean you're gonna be working on great new things Christ Uh anyway, um, so yeah, that's that's exciting blast from the past shit, uh, and and
Starting point is 02:59:24 You know who knows i mean Maybe um Maybe Yeah, yeah, exactly. I know that exact emotion just Something Maybe something will happen and I don't know
Starting point is 02:59:46 I don't know. I just like mark of the wolves, man Uh, but yeah 2021 k duck on twitter Uh japanese account for all those updates um Big excite Uh, that's going down Um
Starting point is 03:00:10 And then uh, of course um Meanwhile, uh a few I suppose, uh A few cities over Uh One poor hideo kojima is sitting in a theater watching minions Yeah, when suddenly his phone starts blowing up
Starting point is 03:00:33 Boy boy must have blown up real big Because uh Some bat shit fucking Uh sequence of events went down obviously Following the assassination of shinzo abe there was then a number of uh new sites that And and and I wasn't a greek tv station some dickhead
Starting point is 03:01:02 french politician Saw someone on social media say that the guy looked like kojima and misunderstood it To be kojima. So he says it and then a bunch of foreign place Four newspapers picked up the politician's story and ran with it as fact And so there were screenshots of kojima with uh, chego vara shirt um And you know and it was being labeled as like this was the assassin and it was like A leftist person that did it and here he is and it's just
Starting point is 03:01:35 Hideo kojima, you know, and it's like the type of shit that like The fact that it actually caught wind and publications and went through you're just like like Meanwhile, what he's actually probably doing at the time is Like yeah sitting in a theater watching minions or tweeting about his salad or whatever other Weird mundane things because like that's kind of just what his account is these days and um, so It seems like Oh, go ahead. They're they're they're talking about threatening legal. They've been threatening legal action over this
Starting point is 03:02:12 Yeah, so kojima productions put out a tweet. Uh, basically saying like, you know, um, they might sue Given the fact that this was everywhere. Okay That that's some outrageous outrageous shit Yeah, it's one thing when um, it's a bunch of random stupid twitter accounts that are just like, you know Publishing bullshit and lies and misinformation and so on but then when actual news sites And article and tv stations start running it This guy killed the prime minister There's tons of people who only see that and have no idea that it's
Starting point is 03:02:50 It's Fucking not real and it's it's running on the news. So there you go. Um Kojima productions might Be carrying out some legal action About this in the meantime talk to them because that's some outrageous outrageous shit reminds me of um Reminds me of the fucking Boston marathon bombing. I think it was Or local news was like we think it's this guy and it was like it was completely wrong someone else entirely
Starting point is 03:03:22 It was just some guy that happened to be in a video And how that they kind of ruined that dude's life Oh, literally nothing was that like the internet found the person type of situation. It was it was it was the news interesting. Okay Because I know that's happened a couple times where like internet sleuthing has completely found the wrong person Um in times like that and and then you know, yeah, that shit goes badly very quickly um Well, and it's like luckily Hideo Kojima is Like first famous and has the resources, right?
Starting point is 03:03:59 So like if if uh, you know if a fucking building blew up and my fucking face came on and it's like this is the the person And he was clearly wrong like that would obviously be really horrible But I have a platform to actually go. Hey, that's not me dipshits as opposed to someone random who Yeah, as opposed to somebody who has no social power whatsoever. Absolutely. Yeah And I noticed that yeah, I mean that post the the the tweet we're discussing came out from the Kojima productions account Right. Yeah, uh, not his personal account. Exactly. Yeah, so um That's that's uh notable
Starting point is 03:04:40 Uh, it sucks. We'll we'll we'll we'll see what happens there, but I mean again at least more people Recognized how ridiculous that was right off the bat and like we're just like this this fucking insane obviously, um And and and so on but yeah, if it if as you said could have been much worse in the sense that Anonymous persons could have had their life ruined over that as well. So yeah, um Other things going on Uh, I want to hey before we move on I want to give a shout out To and wish the best of luck to one Daigo umahara
Starting point is 03:05:18 for uh completing his trip to the retirement home No way Daigo's on fucking Endwalker or whatever now Let me fucking send you the tweet Daigo's on the Daigo's in the retirement home Now streaming ff 14 Wow
Starting point is 03:05:44 But yeah, no, he's but he's in red bull Yeah, wow Oh my god, the retirement home is real. It's it's becoming like funnier and funnier Damn, dude I mean, we've talked about like at this weekend It came up quite a bit because it was just like hey, what's up with so-and-so. Oh, you know retirement home. Yeah, all right Like it's it's a real thing. Um, oh, yeah, wait Daigo actually worked at a retirement home also He did he did actually work at a retirement home. That's just that's just silly
Starting point is 03:06:26 That's hilarious well, um, and then it's funny because this comes off, uh, I don't know if this even counts as news but um Of note is that and this is against the to s so nobody better use what i'm about to talk about because it breaks the rules but uh Every now and then you have a ff 14 mod that comes out And the guy who did the virtual animation swap a while ago did an entire like Super professional quality Dante move swap Animation pack for dark knight which
Starting point is 03:07:05 Like Is genuinely incredible. Is it local only? Yes, okay And if you were to use like the popular modding framework and needed to stream it You could just go to the deactivate all mod button before you did it so that no one you broke the to s of course But because you shouldn't you shouldn't break the to s That's cool. Talk about the billboard Uh
Starting point is 03:07:35 I don't think so Oh, man So some fucking absolute fucking moronic freaks Decided it would be a good idea to put up four billboards
Starting point is 03:07:53 Advertising their fucking erp house on their ff 14 server Including Like Like a bunch of fucking branded fucking, uh, square enix shit all over it And just the ensuing Shit show That that of them saying you guys aren't lawyers, you don't know we it's gonna be fine and everyone going it's not gonna be
Starting point is 03:08:28 Fine guys What an insane Waste of money that could have gone towards asking nintendo a question about f zero Right, what the fuck? They're gonna super Oh man That's that's oh, yeah, it was in texas. It was just one of the weirder parts of it. Hell. Yeah Um
Starting point is 03:08:57 Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't fucking know what's going on there, but um I'll I don't know. I'll see you was there. See you when I'm 65. I suppose I'm still oh, oh Still young and spry are filling in some of the details. It was real billboards That the characters were wearing unavailable, but data mind equipment In poses that would have required mods to achieve So like every part of it is every possible violation of the to s but what But what are they advertising like what come to our house come join our house sex shit?
Starting point is 03:09:42 Okay, yeah, okay Yeah, that that's it not one No four four Yeah Four billboards over It's a texan specifically Um balmung four billboards over balmung there. Let's go let's go with that. That's the one. Yeah, it is. All right Oh
Starting point is 03:10:13 Yeah, when's it gonna it's like the I retweeted a fucking stupid meme about this and it's just like What so why are you giving up, huh? Why why is it it just got to be too hard? It's supposed to be hard and then they give up and then a guy with a F14 logo walks in And it's like when's it gonna be too hard? Willie? When are you just gonna go? Maybe I would just want to relax I mean stories I tell you right now those hammer loops got me feeling like the this the holy spirit. I'm enjoying my time
Starting point is 03:10:48 Um, and I didn't enter samurai showdown, but I looked and I saw and I was like, you know what I probably should have So I still got a fire in me um, and that and that fire needs to Burn until all the kusouge of the world have been thrown into it um Because the barrel to go the barrel is also It's the thing about a barrel is that you could light a good fire and you can keep Everybody warm
Starting point is 03:11:17 You know, so I got to burn through all that poverty Before I'm ready to that's a there's a lot to hang it up I'll let you you'll know when the soul is no longer burning I just see somebody in six months. Will they asking if you should do the tribal quests while still in the msq No, you shouldn't you should wait till you clear it Talk to me then I suppose You know what here's the here's the worst part about that Because this is a goof and because I've been playing the game for so long
Starting point is 03:11:56 There's actually like an enormous amount of inertia for you to not start playing ff 14 Because if you did there would just be this massive shit swell of annoyance I Perhaps like here's how you get into it. Oh, no, you should come like that. I gotta I mean I got a taste of it last time you know and uh I don't know. I'm still confused as to how serious or not serious that that entire issue was to begin with
Starting point is 03:12:32 but uh It's complicated it it felt weird because uh You know in the end it was a combination of like That was not a big deal at all versus That was a humongous deal. Oh my god. What did you do and I was just like I don't I don't know what to fucking I mean you're you're you're you're dealing with a Fucking english viewing population of like
Starting point is 03:12:59 Five six million Yeah, right Like it's one of those things like uh, you know asman gold Sure Like so he streamed ff 14 and that was one of the things that that pushed it in that last n walker push Uh, and I think he was talking about how like he kind of doesn't stream it that much anymore Because the people who want to see him stream it will just Constantly ask for just it
Starting point is 03:13:28 And like he'll be doing other shit and they'll be like when is ff 14 coming back Like every every single day Which is not a great impression I I I mean I have to be real and say that like it that that entire thing left a really weird taste in my mouth about it. Um Considering I was just like oh, I like nearer stuff and and I don't know what the fuck happened, but well the the the funniest thing about that is that we got so They did the monster hunter crossover thing and they did the goro crossover thing and they did the fucking Near crossover thing and they did the tactics crossover, right? They did all these kinds of themed events
Starting point is 03:14:12 And every time that these things would happen They would always have this splash page that came up like let's take monster hunter, right? Here's how you do the monster hunter collaboration and it always had a absolutely hilarious step-by-step process Which is hit level cap is step one Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm And then it then it would explain how to go and get the thing And everyone who already played the game would always like laugh about it because it's so stupid
Starting point is 03:14:41 It's so stupid to actually have people go. I want to play this monster hunter thing. Okay. Well first Put two to seven hundred hours in and then go talk to this guy But you actually figured out a way To skip that step And go straight to the stuff you wanted and we got to see like just how weird that actually gets Right without the warming up process. Yeah Um and it gets sillier every time the near thing was reached level cap again
Starting point is 03:15:21 But that was at the end of shadow I'm sure there'll be a fucking another one for end walk or some crossover with fucking common rider or some shit And it's like do you want to hang out with? Fucking the orange man Well clear 6.0 and all the way up to 6.2 And then go talk to this guy Yeah, yeah, I don't know actually, you know come to think of it I only know one person who that's the system completely worked on and that's rebecca from digital extremes
Starting point is 03:15:56 Um where she was like, oh cool. I love near maybe i'll try out ff 14 And I was talking to her on twitter and dms and she said Uh, i'm really looking to get those near outfits. They look really good And i'm like cool. Uh, how far are you and she's like i'm level 25 black mage And I was like Oh jesus christ And then she finally did get there like a year later
Starting point is 03:16:29 And got the near outfit that she wanted But like wow I mean there is that thing where someone says hey, I want to be competitive in x fighting game And then it's like what do I do and it's like, okay? Well step one is learn every move that every character does in the game Yeah, so that you'll never see something you've never seen before And then learn what your character has to do against those things and that's the beginning Yeah, so and then if you're too far in the answer is start two years ago Or start three years ago. Oh god go back in time. Yeah
Starting point is 03:17:07 which is It's the worst. It's the worst fucking possible answer It's like and sometimes that's the only answer Like hey, I want to get into marvel 3 now But a good a good online ranking system will mitigate that problem You know, like it'll keep you with your peers at all times if they do a good enough job of it um So it's just it's it's just the it's it's the toned down version of
Starting point is 03:17:37 um go back in time to 95 and start playing sf2 hyper fighting at your local arcade Yeah, yeah there's um Yeah, that's the pressing that's discouraging that sucks. I hate it Uh, okay try not to say it to people anymore because it's so frustrating
Starting point is 03:18:05 But you know, I mean again what like fortunately there's always like things just around the horizon and you know, we can talk about I'm telling people about, uh, you know rumbleverse and and and multi versus is also really good. That's coming project L is a thing and DNF is here and it's easy to pick up and project L is still like a big old question mark, ain't it? It is but just rising thunder 2v2 popular league of legends characters free to play like oh I meant specifically like when and and what? Oh, yeah
Starting point is 03:18:41 but dude like Something about how quiet its being is also kind of like Yeah, no Don't rush it Take your time make it make it fucking a banger You know, I think they I think literally the statement they they put out was like and now is the time where You don't hear from us from a really long time because we're just going to put our heads down and work Okay, I think I think that was literally the sentence, you know, and it's like
Starting point is 03:19:12 Fucking I go no complaints. I respect it Um Anyways, so I you know, I'm I'm just waiting I'm just waiting for the moment where it's been a development for eight years and it comes out with like a 12 character roster And everyone just completely losing their fucking mind All of the league of legends favorites, there's eight characters and four bosses Well, they're they're kind of screwed on that Because the character choice they have is like hundreds
Starting point is 03:19:49 So like everyone's going to be fucking pissed off You can't do it and I've asked this question already Which was can you satisfy people with skins and I believe the answer was no the answer is no, absolutely The mechanics are too unique Like I'm sitting here going if that game doesn't have Timo that game is trash, right, right, right um In the meantime, like teppen just made a kami skin Or you can now use kami, but it's really just nero
Starting point is 03:20:20 And she gets different cards, but it's the same abilities, you know Um, uh, runeterra, uh has a lot easier time because like making a card Is not the same as making a whole no and fighting game character Okay, other things going on they talked a bit about Uh, the ff7 Uh new shit. So an an interview was done with nomura and kitase on ff7 remake um, and the takeaways are There's no plans to remake dirge of cerberus or before crisis as of right now
Starting point is 03:21:00 So, uh You can you can temper those expectations Though yeah, they also say a bunch of really obvious shit like zack is going to be really important. Mm-hmm Yeah, is he um, you think didn't they say that before crisis was going to be worked into the the, um The other project though I don't remember That could be possible. I think they said before crisis would be included in Uh, the first soldier
Starting point is 03:21:31 If that's what it was called, uh, or or whatever that like original Like ff7 goofy Proportion looking thing was was going to be So ever crisis, excuse me. Yeah first soldier was the um the online shit So, you know that that takes the place of of of the need for an actual before crisis remake Uh And and vincent's can can sit tight in his shitty shitty game Man, we know someone that loves the shit out of that game though. Yeah
Starting point is 03:22:12 Uh, okay This this person really, huh, absolutely adores it Oh Yeah It was like it was like one of the strange it was like one of the first games she's ever played too. So, okay. Yeah, you know um But uh, they also said they weren't sure whether or not the team
Starting point is 03:22:40 was going to Have the project for remake be two or three games and That's weird weird. That's super weird That tells me huge decision Yes, and that tells me that like they kind of Were okay not making that decision While the first one was being made. Yeah, so
Starting point is 03:23:06 So to me To me that says here's here's my my my brain just tabulating events based off of nothing but that There's obviously some really core events that they locked in really early Like this is this is going to be the big thing. This is going to be the ending. This is going to be such and such, right? And then the decision is How much of the rest of classic final fantasy 7 do we want to put in there for funsies? Right do we want to do The entirety of nebelheim
Starting point is 03:23:46 Flashback. Okay. Well, okay. Do we want to do all of the gold saucer and correll? So stuff like that. I mean that I get well before that discussion comes Are we doing is this actually just 1.1 2.2 3.33 and 3 plus 1? or is it really remake With the with the sauce on it you know
Starting point is 03:24:16 because Okay, before we go any further we're going to talk about the the kind of gist of the plot in the ff7 remake There's no way to talk about this without yeah, right? So if you haven't played ff7 remake and you don't want to be spoiled on anything that happens in that Probably stop listening to this part of the podcast Okay, so in the ff7 remake by the end of the thing for the core cast They're actually in a pretty similar place as to where they were at the end of the first the real game right
Starting point is 03:24:52 There's some extraneous cast that is now going to be around and probably have their own thing but like there's no reason to believe that the events of Calm all the way to maybe like Fucking nibbleheim would actually change significantly at all Right. Yeah, you could have a new plot and oh sephroth's here now and oh we ran into so-and-so and that changed it So that the date is actually with jesse or yeah, remaster remastering will occur
Starting point is 03:25:29 Of scenes but like actual major plot changes You'll it didn't have to but based on what they're setting up with the little teasers and such You kind of are led to think like but they're going to and there's going to be a percentage of this game That is brand new unreferenced before stuff. Yeah that Changes the entire direction that you know this all goes in because they've created essentially a subplot That is happening I guess in another Place
Starting point is 03:26:08 Well final fantasy has a history of you playing as your main cast and then you switching to the side cast for an hour Mm-hmm. So the idea that they weren't sure whether it was going to be two or three is like So weird because that's such a big decision If you had to take everything that came from outside of midgar all the way up to fucking North cave, let's say right and You cram it in and give it the amount of fleshed out detail that
Starting point is 03:26:43 The same scenes you recognized in seven one seven hour one Got yeah That would be the rest of that would be an entire fucking. Yeah, yeah I don't think there's any reason to continue anything past North cave because all that stuff is back to midgar to do this with brufus and then clouds in the wheelchair and You know all that shit, but you'll have hit every area, which is what people really care about Right
Starting point is 03:27:14 So um Yeah, like I just it would have been really weird I guess to see why that the the Or it would have been really weird to see how they took everything else that was left untouched
Starting point is 03:27:33 And cared about and crammed it all into a second game with adequate time for The new shit to also get its wrap up and whatever So the my my take away on that is that if they were going to do two games It was actually going to be like Like a whirlwind tour of some of the spots But then the the story would diverge very strongly and it would be mostly its own thing whereas With the three games they get to just diverge it here and diverge it there, but
Starting point is 03:28:06 um You know cash in on your nostalgia cash in on You know all the all the the stupid little remixes they can do I'd be somewhat disappointed though if like each of those areas and cities you visit weren't given like The amount of like crazy respect and treatment that you saw The areas in midgar get right like so here's the thing I completely understand what you mean, but at the same time midgar is a disproportionately huge amount of ff7 originally
Starting point is 03:28:40 Yeah, and it's it's in game Place never lived up to the promise of it Right like midgar was was bigger than it was Okay, right Calm can get away with being a regular town Like like like a like an area like the sector seven slums Right the chocobo ranch can be a chocobo ranch The the junon can be mostly
Starting point is 03:29:15 Like it could be large in its scale, but it really just needs that main street. Yeah, it's all about the yeah Right and so on and so forth midgar the problem there was that It was this massive super area that you actually saw a really small part of What i'm thinking about though, for example is like wall market as a Like massive chunk where you spend a couple hours doing all of it, right? Yeah in and out of wall market in in You know or the in the original like An hour, you know what I mean like
Starting point is 03:29:53 You can really just and so it like the scale from Just kind of waltzing through it quickly getting a feel for a couple of screens and then immediately being out Versus like this has turned into a possibly like like I don't know maybe seven eight hour chunk of your time Um, even if you're not running back and forth doing something like the same tasks and kind of visiting every corner You'd still you'd want each of these places We know a cosmo canyon etc to be given that same level of of scale
Starting point is 03:30:27 Attention and not just kind of vanish into background details. Yeah, so the way that I the way that I interpret this is that um Trying to Match the old contents shot for shot is impossible. There's too much of it. Um But what you can do is you can increase or decrease the amount of um
Starting point is 03:31:01 Let's call it mental space A sequence will take up. Mm-hmm based off of how Culturally important it felt that it was so when people talk about ff7 Midgar dominates the conversation So midgar had to be blown way open Calm doesn't the flashback does though. Mm-hmm Nobody gives a shit about condor tower And in fact, I'm kind of shocked at how
Starting point is 03:31:36 Like condor tower is actually way better served as a fucking Uh mini game in the yufi in the yufi end of things than Actually being its own place We don't need to go to condor tower condor tower is a pile of shit. What does what actually matters about junon the main street parade? Right. Mm-hmm. What actually matters about costa del sol? Uh, it's it's a chill moment after the weird events on the boat Um, yeah, I well, so I don't think you need to spend two hours on the chocobo farm
Starting point is 03:32:12 Doing little busy work, you know, like running back and forth and such with and then meeting a new like me and like having a whole quasi relationship with one of the the farm hands or whatever, right? Yeah, um, you don't need that. No, but uh, when you go to like, let's say, uh, Rocket town and yeah, you want to like walk through the like if you want to feel the filth in the grime of that You can imagine a lot of people to talk to a lot of shit going on a lot of of Um, you can see rocket town being expanded into a similar kind of area Like how wall market was expanded where there's a lot to do there Here's how I think you're gonna they're gonna do it, right? So in ff7 remake you had situations in which you had a sector seven slums
Starting point is 03:33:03 Um sector five slums and wall market, right? That was your three main Like hub areas that you did side quests in and what happened was Is that you actually did both all those areas twice Right So you had the original sector seven slums thing and then you left and you did the missions blah blah blah And then you eventually came back to it and did a side quest thing there. There's two hits at wall market There's two run-throughs the sector five, uh slums And they all have different side quests and all that
Starting point is 03:33:38 um What you can do Is instead of that Especially now that like they have a bunch of the the model work and texture work and stuff like that done What you can do is instead of having sector five slums and then come back to sector five slums later You can put that work into calm and
Starting point is 03:34:00 The june on main street Right and then instead of the revisit effort. Yeah, and and then instead of um instead of wall market You would have Corel and then the golden saucer right right right and then instead of sector five slums You would have gongaga And you would have nibbleheim and nibbleheim would be the end of the second game Um
Starting point is 03:34:29 Yeah, so basically just taking every one of those zones and making it a single pass through Yeah, instead of the double or triple down right. Yeah um, I mean fucking wutai There's a lot They're gonna do a third game then for the third game You start in wutai because wutai is where the fucking war happened and zack would have all that fucking war memory And then you then do you do wutai then you can go back to some of these areas
Starting point is 03:35:00 But then you mainly do temple of the ancients and then the trip to north k And then whatever zany shit now wanted to now video games as a design like design wise video games as you know Fucking hate it when you only get to see something once Yeah, I know also. I forgot cosmo canyon cosmo canyon can be a dungeon Sure. Um You know the saucer can go by quickly like Yeah, but but like but the just the idea of designing assets that people only see once
Starting point is 03:35:37 is like A lot of studios cases. It's it's it's a sin, right? It's a cardinal sin to waste Time making a new thing and then people will never fully look at it But unless the third game is going to trade on being able to go back to locations that you were in the first two games well ff7's weird because it's allowed to have more budget than anything on the planet does So it can just do that if it wanted to um
Starting point is 03:36:11 Also to be fair as people are pointing out elden ring just came out and elden ring Is about as expansive as anything has ever been Except for daggers. Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to see people go. Well dagger falls better dagger falls a piece of fucking shit um I was going to say the thing about about Remake two is that remake is also like not every like some of those areas are like hubs that you revisit two three runs through Some of them are one and done's right the entire train yard is a one and done the entire um
Starting point is 03:36:47 what should we call it The the sewers are pretty much a one and done, you know, so they're not afraid to do that They've demonstrated. So I think they're gonna play a little uh, you do the sewer twice Uh, you go back down there for a series of side quests When you're chasing the fucking Uh, yeah, okay, okay, right the dawn drops you right and there's that sequence don drops you you fight the boss You go do this shit. Yeah. Yeah. True. True. True. Okay The the train yard is in fact totally unique, which is actually kind of strange, but um
Starting point is 03:37:24 I think because of the the story contrivance they've built up The second and third games can play a little looser like you may in fact actually go to some of these places out of order Hmm what I think everyone would probably hate is if you go to the third game and they 3.33 it and like 70% of that is what? You know, I think I think that would be by far the most interesting way to do it I think you are going to see some things out of order in uh, two Um, because uh, I don't think there's any possibility you're going to get to the end of that game without the full roster And canonically you get said after the nibbleheim shit
Starting point is 03:38:09 Um, but fuck that Going all new Might be the most interesting way to go, but it it also might like Double down or triple down on it being like bad It's a gamble. I suppose yeah, because I still you know, as I said as as Uh, cool of a game as a 7r was like some of that new stuff. Um, it's it's question mark in the air, but like It leans in really hard to something that was like appreciably, um
Starting point is 03:38:46 The xenomorph was not seen clearly For a lot of that, you know what I mean and it kind of spoils a little bit of that and makes it like oh Oh, you're gonna get up and fucking close with it. Did you play intergrade? uh, no You should it's good. I hear yeah, and you fee you fee plays Like playing intergrade and having the mechanic where you have the team up of the two characters Like attack as a single unit feels like you're previewing the battle system of the next game And of course I have to go see what uh vice is up to
Starting point is 03:39:24 Yeah, if people want to be worried about what's going on in the ff7 remake verse or whatever Um, first of all, I'm excited to have more boss fights against roche um as he uh Tracks us across the world being a dumbass um The the the deep ground shit. I love how people just go deep ground, baby every single time It's like the deep ground shit sucks dude. They're so excited for deep those characters are losers Why are you so excited for deep ground?
Starting point is 03:40:05 Stop it Oh, I would I would be absolutely astonished if they Oh, they're totally gonna have g you know, what am I talking about g is gonna absolutely enter in as a major character Of course, of course, of course. That's the whole reason they're remaking fucking crisis score I didn't even get through all the bullet points because look when it comes so that was the last bit about uh the the r2, but um Meanwhile, uh ccr as we can call it which is You can uh Uh crisis core. Oh
Starting point is 03:40:42 Oh Hmm, you're looking for another reward. What about revival if you want to fucking Well, that's a lot of reference in there No, but like you're like reunion remake. I I was I was 100 percent certain that the third game was going to be called Reunion reunion, but you know, you know anyway, um credence aside crisis core reunion fully voice acted newly arranged ost new gameplay changes um
Starting point is 03:41:16 Talking about the uh the the the slot system and the always accessible limit breaks You could make a couple changes to crisis core that would make that a much better game Sure Running on ue4 PC aiming for 120 fps and current gen going for 60 Uh and the thing that is uh also on this list that's notable in the interviews They took the time to say that they're going to keep it faithful to the original So yeah, my take on that is
Starting point is 03:41:51 We're not deleting any characters out of the canon So you can expect everyone who showed up to exist in some shape or form Is it who what characters are there that for some reason have more lines? Like I think people really like cisna the turk That would be cool um No, what what I mean what I hear is faithful is that the ending isn't going to change Because the ending has to not change so that the ending of arm is like what when it changes
Starting point is 03:42:30 Right since that comes first Right. Yeah, sure sure, but also uh wink wink nod nod Gact is backed You know whether or not it's actually him um The the spirit of gact will live on so That's pretty much what they had to say within the interview I think I think a lot of people would like
Starting point is 03:42:55 Gact or wouldn't have much of a problem with gact and final fantasy if uh g didn't just suck ass G is awful I mean Gact self inserts Like you're he's going to touch something you love Before you're out of here like it doesn't matter like if you if you if it's not ff7 Uh, it might be fist of the north star. It might be Gundam zeta it like he's going to get his way in
Starting point is 03:43:29 And and slowly but surely try to turn whatever he works on Into bujin guy And then he'll make you come by his own hand I Like how you had that ready. I like that What what else is going on Ubisoft announced that it's totally cool to pirate all their games and then quickly back down and said no wait Sick
Starting point is 03:44:08 Um either delisting um Or rather removing multiplayer from a bunch of shit that was essentially the announcement Yeah, but part of that was also people getting slapped with a message saying hey Do you own assassin's creed liberation that was on the steam sale like one day ago? and uh You won't be able to play it at all. It'll be removed from your library september 1st And everyone's like what the hell And then they gave out like three confusing statements
Starting point is 03:44:37 And then the final one is like well, no if you own it you still be able to play you just can't buy it again And everyone's like why was this so difficult and I can only imagine is because that's not the way it was going to be Originally it was going to be no fucking fucking you no no video game And then everybody get mad Speaking of pirates you seen that fucking screenshot of the skull and bones ui Have you seen the comparison? Yeah, that's what i'm talking about So there's so I retweeted I retweeted this great tweet
Starting point is 03:45:13 Um credit to blue-footed newt on twitter saying the skull and bones ui looks Unironically like the elden ring meme ui where people kept adding to it until it became unintelligible And we laughed about this screenshot of elden ring where they put a bunch of extra bullshit in it including Like press x to activate tarnished Tarnished says to himself. Hmm. I better go investigate that cave Message of the day hot bar on the bottom level up on the right above your experience all it's it's hilarious Minimap in the top right corner enemies detected You know and then arrows all over the the actual location in front of you
Starting point is 03:46:01 um And it's it's that's the joke right? And then you look at the actual skull and bones ui and it's like holy fucking shit Just as bad It's actually that cluttered if not more cluttered when you consider the icons on the screen in front of you And then the HUD and life bars and messages and everything considered It's like they like the joke is real because it's barely a joke So i'm gonna point out to everyone
Starting point is 03:46:30 who uh ever looks at skull and bones That skull and bones has you can go check my twitter to see the uh the retreat of it Skull and bones has a bizarre and dubious status as a game that ubisoft is contractually Obligated by the government of singapore to release They have to put the game out or else they owe singapore like tens of millions of dollars However, they've pissed away like a decade of work on it Because everyone they send over there is too racist to actually work well with the employees there
Starting point is 03:47:10 Um, yeah, we talked about that a couple months ago Um anyone in that studio that wasn't french essentially wasn't getting promoted Yeah, all the singaporean employees have no career advancement and it's been treated like a vacation or Uh, yeah as a vacation slash promotion tool for french executives Go hang out in singapore for two years get promoted come back Um, I feel like the only reason it's actually getting worked on now Is they're catching up to the point in which if they don't release it in a relatively near Thing they're actually gonna lose money on it no matter what despite the singaporean tax break
Starting point is 03:47:52 I Just wanted more black flag sailing man Yeah, this is gonna be a piece of shit I really enjoyed sailing in black flag and I just want to do more of that And if you tell me I can do that and in fact just that without even getting off the boat I don't even mind. That's great. It's my favorite part of the game Yeah, it's pretty good. Why is that so hard? You
Starting point is 03:48:21 Know and it's and and I mean the answer of course is because like if it's a new ip and it's going through the ubi system It's gotta get like It's gotta get all of Okay, all the shit that you like you see that all that hud shit all that ux everything they can push When it's a new ip and there's no expectations for what should not be there There's no reason to hold back on trying new shit out There's no reason to take any ideas that might be potentially Uh profitable off the table, you know, you can take every one of those things and shove it in there
Starting point is 03:48:58 And and see how it gets received because it's a brand new ip no expectations And i'm just like fucking just let me sing a shanty and and no Just want to sing lever johnny No, all right. Well, no you may not Um, uh, how is a boat gonna climb a tower? With the with now with that attitude they're not They're fucking They're they're gonna find the way
Starting point is 03:49:40 You're gonna have to like shoot the tower with your cannon and then like send your guy up to the the crow's nest and Unlock more fucking Yeah, they had cars that had to climb towers in some of their racing games They'll find a way um But uh, that's not all because uh, they also Did mention Beyond good and evil too Is still in active development
Starting point is 03:50:16 I think that is a lie Uh, according to the reports here It's still alive I uh Yeah, that game's not gonna come out It's it's that no I want to believe but uh, you know That's what uh, that's what we're saying they mentioned that guy left they mentioned it
Starting point is 03:50:46 I mean, yeah, like Just like they mentioned skull and bones like both of these are like Oh, well skull and bones is happening like it or not It has to like like, uh Yeah, that's a game. I would want to see the known shipables on because Like there's gonna be a point where it must go out by such and such a date or else big money Like beyond good and evil too it shapes up to clearly seem to be a story that is like This is a sequel that can become something else entirely
Starting point is 03:51:23 Uh, what should we turn it into and then Years are spent arguing about what that thing should be and the answer is Um, something that is not like beyond good and evil one Is what it seems to to be the case there Yeah, um, I don't know man Anyway, uh, it kind of it kind of feels like beyond good and evil too is like the the the Mask they're gonna slap on whatever new thing some guy wants to make Similar to the way that psychoshok became prey
Starting point is 03:52:02 And it's like why is it named pray and the answer is because they owned the name pray and they wanted a game called pray So like I I mean, I'm you know, I'm gonna go back to the fucking playbook on this shit, but like Yeah, I've I've talked about you know sleeping dogs and and nosgoth and all these things where you're just like Yeah, that's that's a project that like is an excuse to do another thing that we've been wanting to try You know, so I it It sucks because it's so clearly like hey This first one had a thing it would be cool if you guys followed up on that Um, or this sailing was fun
Starting point is 03:52:45 That could be a fun thing to do on its own and then it just every hypothetical test Uh, uh Feature everything that you can do to you know try out new monetization options I mean shit like when for honor launched, you know, and they were trying out the The the fucking loot reward system on that and it's just like hey play it forever gone now No, it's not but I just mean oh they fixed yet. Oh, no, no, no, no the the problem. Yeah, they fixed it You get rewards properly for what you you you okay, you know
Starting point is 03:53:19 They did they did address that a couple seasons ago. Thankfully, but I've been for honor would have Kicked a lot more ass and been way more popular if they didn't use it as a fucking petri dish for shitty ideas They can't stop themselves is my is what i'm getting at like they they cannot stop themselves from taking You know new things and and trying it all out and the old things can't escape it But old things have enough people that are like We have expectations that this will kind of be like the thing we liked. Please stop Um, and new things are just like nope everything every every needle is getting jabbed up in there Have fun
Starting point is 03:53:59 Anyways, so that's that's what's going on there and Yeah, beyond that I didn't realize this but it turns out that I guess netflix has still got the death note live action rights because they're gonna try again This time with the duffer brothers who are the stranger things folks. That's a much better pick for that Yes, however I'm kind of somebody who thinks that if you take
Starting point is 03:54:31 A shot at it and you fuck it up You should probably lose your chance and give it give it back. Unfortunately. That's not how licensing works I would it would be great if it's like you fucked up done You took you shot your shot now somebody else or no one for that matter But the fact that they're like nah, just do it again though Yes, these are better directors are different companies gonna do live action death note I mean There's the original japanese live action
Starting point is 03:55:03 um but Netflix paid whatever they paid To be able to I guess keep trying for a certain period of time or maybe a certain number of projects. Who knows what it was But yep, yep, you know Hey, this actually reminds me of something. I don't think we talked about you like enter the into the breach, right? I do You're aware that there's a new into the breach coming Um
Starting point is 03:55:33 Hold on. They're re-releasing it with a bunch of new characters and and new stuff in it Sounds like you're not Uh I what was there about there was an announcement for some things Was there also like an adaptation and some other news that came? Uh, yeah, it's advanced addition Mobile mobile is what I heard. Yep. Yes part of netflix Right. Okay. There we go. It's part of your fucking netflix subscription. Yes. Thank you
Starting point is 03:56:07 I'm like there's some there was something about this that made me not care. I forget what it was Yeah, okay. There we go. That might be the absolute shittiest like deal breaker ever like a like Okay, if it's like a an app that is like has a little netflix logo on it That's one thing But if they're going to be like low play into the breach by loading into the netflix app and then using the shittiest garbage ever on your phone more
Starting point is 03:56:43 Like into the trash Yeah, I mean shit, man, I played okay, so I know there's netflix games out and the only thing The closest thing to that I've done is I played um played quote-unquote, uh, uh bandersnatch Yeah, and that was not a good experience of selecting things on the screen Uh, I did not enjoy it so
Starting point is 03:57:10 If into the breach netflix edition is going to consist of like each grid on the thing being like a remote That like like cell selected that I just Like just that mobile version is going to be fucking terrible Like the worst possible flash edition of a thing that you like, you know, um Yeah, no, uh, that's that's terrible. I hate it And it's such a great game too fuck
Starting point is 03:57:44 So yeah, no more but whatever more more death note and and and um Yeah, they have a new company called upside down pictures, which naturally, of course um I just It's death note is not in the list of things that I think is unadaptable and shouldn't be touched I I think it can be done, but I just think you could do it You just Yeah
Starting point is 03:58:12 Better people I guess we'll see Um And then you see that new robocop game I did it that trailer looks Real that's a real That's a game. That's a robocop specifically cut. I am looking at The this is might be fine. I I am looking at the worst thing I have ever seen in my life right now Might be fine. We'll have to see
Starting point is 03:58:48 um It's gonna come down to Like the gameplay because uh, you know visually they've they've got a budget Um, and that's you know, I don't think robocop is is pulling in quadruple a funding for for for a new game, but um, they clearly are going old robocop and Uh, not only that they're going peter weller
Starting point is 03:59:19 So, okay. Well, yeah, good. He shows up. He's got the face. He's got the voice. So they're not fucking around with that um So hey, you know, well, well, we'll see it's not a looker, but uh The Gameplay might might be might be what you want out of a robocop game. I don't know It's hard to say robocop doesn't move fast enough for a good first person shooter Well, then how do you make a good first person shooter where it's about moving slow? uh
Starting point is 03:59:49 You make it a tank and you make all the enemies tanks But robocop tends to shoot humans Mm-hmm precise like Shoot between the skirt moments and yeah, no, that'll be that'll be a that'll be a mode Well, yeah, it turns and then it turns into a horde mode Where then you have to target all the all the dicks And as they quick as they rush down from
Starting point is 04:00:18 That that our robocop remake is incredible if you haven't seen the film called our robocop remake you need to go watch it That is a horde boss fight scene waiting to happen. That's incredible Uh, i've just been informed uh that uh what i'm going to assume is a somewhat reputable Fuck oh, no never mind. I'm stupid never mind everything that i'm saying. Okay. All right I got I got trolled by parody account. No problem. I am used to never minding everything that you're saying Oh, that's good. That's good. I like that If you got a letter you can send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com That's castle super fuck uh
Starting point is 04:01:01 nailed it Uh castle super beast mail at gmail.com. All right Shit here's the one coming in from soggy snake. What's up woolly man and zang use corner man Hey in the 19 In the 1980s uh kiniku man Anime the character tarry man regularly devolves into using dirty tactics during his matches That would be fine
Starting point is 04:01:29 However, every single time tarry man does this characters in the match and the announcer Regularly point out why would the noble good guy tarry man resort to such underhanded tactics? It's become a regular thing for him to do this So it's always been weird that the series just conveniently forgets that he regularly does this Can you think of any examples where the series conveniently forgets these details like that and portrays characters in a different light? I don't know why yugioh characters even pretend that the game has rules Is that a thing yeah, oh, yeah, like I like I legitimately like it is it is
Starting point is 04:02:11 complete nonsense I Feel like Naruto has like a fucking dump truck full of those moments Probably if you're going back over with a fine tooth comb so by myself. Oh god. I was always by myself. I mean well Choji and shikimaru were there, but I mean I was so alone. Well also, you know Well, actually I wasn't really alone. Baby sasuke was also my best friend. We had a little finger thing
Starting point is 04:02:45 But then I mean so alone No, but then then the third was given a job to take care of me, of course And then he left me some steer stale cereal and a bowl of milk and just left me in an apartment Stared through the through the mystic ball. He did Yeah, um I don't know man That's it's real it's weird did it like Naruto's own backstory doesn't make sense in his own story And then everyone he meets and beats up is lonelier than him as a child
Starting point is 04:03:21 Yeah You know and they get their own swing even though you flashback to all of them hanging out as children Swing got more play than 1010 Um Didn't Didn't um The akatsuki had rings Right. Oh dude. I don't know they had did they do did those rings like do anything later? I don't know
Starting point is 04:03:59 They were a thing at first What did they do what it weren't they like a thing and then Anyway I feel like they introduced them and you show them and you see a tachi and kisame and you're like, oh fuck They got the rings though. Who fucking and then like it just it's like no just put the fucking coat on I don't know shut up. Here's nine more of them All right, and here's this one guy who's eight guys Is
Starting point is 04:04:32 Or whatever. Yeah Um cool Yeah, dude. There's just there's i'm definitely there's there's a ton of that um, here's one coming in from Mads no, that's not correct. Um, well, just yeah, daniel. All right, daniel says hey woolly and pat greetings from mads michelson land During last week's podcast pat talked about the benefits of using kindle Overpurchasing physical copies of books and such one of the benefits is always being able to purchase a copy
Starting point is 04:05:06 Whereas physical copies would go out of print and become rare commodities However, I actually said something similar today with the recent news of Ubisoft and sony both were moving access to digital copies and Movies that people already bought I can't help but feel a bit conflicted about trusting digital media And yet especially in this day and age of live service games Therefore, I wanted to hear your thoughts on the matter Should we trust the companies to maintain some decency and not screw their customers?
Starting point is 04:05:36 Or should I start buying more physical copies of things I like before it becomes impossible to get my hands on them? So this is a really good question. Uh in the particular case of books There was a microsoft e-reader that uh eventually stopped being supported and the books all locked Because microsoft had relinquished the dr. M rights for them or whatever um So that was a fucking shit show In terms of the kindle, uh, I I think
Starting point is 04:06:04 Some crazy shit may be happening in the world economy if all of a sudden amazon guns goes under Um, yeah, I have faith that that company will continue to exist, but let's say it doesn't I have a sneaking suspicion that in the case of digital books specifically That if the kindle and the and the amazon marketplace all went away That somehow Just somehow There would still be a way to get your books onto your device um
Starting point is 04:06:44 Perhaps yes, mayhaps that might be a thing If you're talking about like, you know, I guess like supporting what you'd like to and such though uh For me a huge factor is Like and this is not just books Does the digital format? uh require some sort of uh
Starting point is 04:07:06 connection and authentication because um In the case of things like expect every storefront to eventually go down Expect every ability to redownload something that you bought to be taken away, right? um If I boot up my 360 all the xbox live arcade games I bought are still on it It sucks that if that goes away that you might not be able to fix that problem in the future um
Starting point is 04:07:33 But if the thing you buy requires you to uh Like connect and then get proof that they still have the ability to let you read this book or play this game or some such That's a complete no-go from the that's a non-starter. Um, well, I mean luckily in the case of this particular device, um You you can just you just use caliber to fucking rip the fucking drm right off the fucking things sure And that that's that problem um As for games, it's a little more complex. Yeah, because you usually need the hardware to do it um
Starting point is 04:08:13 But if it's not doing any kind of check to make sure Um beforehand, then it's like, okay, you know, at least your preserved shit Um will be fine in the future without an internet connection. That's what matters to me Console games and and steam games. It's like I completely understand the desire to buy physical and And not have to put up with all this shit um I made that decision To switch to digital purchases
Starting point is 04:08:42 Uh when I moved into my last place and I knew the ps4 was gonna get um All digital games right like everything would be coming out digitally And I had to go through the experience of packing up the Hundreds of cases of games that I had acquired from the ps2 and xbox 360 era and realized Yeah, I can't actually do this Again and again and again add infinitum like I Like I I will never have enough room in my life For the amount of these things that I purchased both for for recreation and for work
Starting point is 04:09:20 Yeah, it it becomes unreasonable at us at a quick at a fairly quick point, I would say um Now I guess the yeah the the the hope of course is like, yeah, if steam ever goes down and just says each shit, um Whoo Oh boy, uh That's uh, that's a scary thought But The the other thought is is providing that you've bought the thing
Starting point is 04:09:58 And if you're suddenly, you know told that you cannot play the thing that you bought, uh As he's pat said earlier, uh, no, yeah, you can you your will within your rights to go acquire it However, you need to you bought it. Fuck you um And and that that if we all if we all streak through the quad at the same time. They can't catch all of us Um, if you if you're looking at shit that you want to try but never got a chance to Um, and that goes down. Uh, well that's just Fucking garbage, but hey the the we you e-shop
Starting point is 04:10:37 Uh, just you know said yeah, we're deleting history. Fuck you and if you wanted to play muscle march But you know, but you waited too long Then no muscle march for you Um, so anticipate that and and and you know stock your shit up. I guess Anticipate muscle march. Yeah anticipate muscle march and make sure to have it installed for sure um And let's take one over here from x who says hey willy and pat
Starting point is 04:11:07 I was thinking the other day about tropes and archetypes that only mostly happen in specific mediums and specific cultures I thought of four broad categories So culturally student councils being over power being powerful is a japan only thing Yeah, my student council was a bunch of fucking idiots who just wanted an extracurricular They didn't do anything Yeah, absolutely. Um the idea of there being like a chairman that like has say over any class responsibilities as madness um
Starting point is 04:11:43 I remember the people who ran for office and like they they did they did nothing nothing occurred They were just people that were interested in potentially political careers and that would have been good Like training for that No one gave a fuck um student council in college Became more of a big deal because like they would go on strike and they would like organize
Starting point is 04:12:09 Yeah, they would do things shit that you know like would affect the actual student life But they were all so adults Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So they weren't you know um Oddly enough, I think the same guy who was student council president in my high school then got hired as the Student council president at the college. I went to oh as a full-time like gig. Oh, that's a fast track. Oh, he's gonna Yeah, it's a big big prime master
Starting point is 04:12:41 um Medium quirk victory poses are mostly done in games and toku satsu Uh, disagree. I think you're wrong about that. I think um Pro wrestling does victory poses all the time Yeah As does mma as does boxing Lot of lot of thing competitive sports have victory poses. That's that's wrong
Starting point is 04:13:06 Fucking a competitive bodybuilding has victory poses. There you go Uh, it's stupid Due to limitations of the medium cartoon characters wearing things Uh on their neck due to limited animation in the early days of tv That's true Hannah barbera cartoons in particular all have that like um Fred Flintstone caller
Starting point is 04:13:33 yogi bear caller Um And it just makes it easier to not animate the body and animate the heads only Yeah, although Like ironically on the other side of the fence then you have like characters that wear Like anime characters that were shit on their neck like scarves like cyborg 009 or or or so where It's like oh that just animates it makes animation extra complicated Um, all right
Starting point is 04:14:03 And other why are dance party endings mostly a thing in games and animated movies? Uh, not true. There's a dance party at the end of RRR There's a dance party at the end of singham and yeah, I mean it There And there is a dance party at the end of um slumdog millionaire. That's mandated by the government So I
Starting point is 04:14:34 If I watched a goddamn movie that took place or was from india and there was not a dance scene at the end of that movie I would I would grade that movie a fucking zero Like would you be upset that there's no dancing? Yeah, yeah Yeah, sure sure Um Jai ho man that was a that was a fucking bop Before the pussycat dolls got to it I don't remember you're talking about I have no idea
Starting point is 04:15:10 I have absolutely no who the end credits theme of slumdog millionaire was a song called jai ho It was really good. It was catchy Jai ho. It was great. And then the pussycat dolls covered it And they made their own American version of it where they sang jai ho Oh, I I see And uh
Starting point is 04:15:38 Okay, yep, that's that's all right. Yeah, okay. This is the one time i'll say that um I'm I'm glad that you should be glad too that the podcast no longer has Uh outro music because uh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because you would inflict it upon them You're being spared All right What a bummer oh god, oh good way to oh no You

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