Castle Super Beast - CSB 176: To Die On a Hill Named Altria

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

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MUSIC All right, so from the looks of it, Twitch is continuing to act up after having a big temper tantrum this week, so... Oh, did it? I didn't notice. Fair warning if you're a live beaster, but if this is an mp3 file then don't worry about it. Yeah, it's been flickering.

Oh, I guess the times that I do it, I kind of dodged it. I didn't really notice many problems at all. All of my Twitch streams this week went completely without a hitch, not a single problem. I didn't have any difficulties with anything, so we can just move on. On a technical level. And not talk about that, just at all. Just not even a single issue of any kind. Should I close the calculator app that I have open on my phone, or...?

I think what really hits is that when you were saying that, I could see the phone out of the little corner of the box of the view screen. I knew for a fact that you were not lying, that the calculator app was open, and it reminds me of... God, what was it? You remember like two weeks ago or three weeks ago, we had this goof about like, what would you rather people see, your search history or your calculator history? Oh, that one was great.

You remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to change my answer to definitely the calculator history. Yeah, no, calculators need incognito mode. Yeah, okay, so this is the second... So I had a stream this week in which I was playing iSummium files to the Nirvana initiative, and I ran into a puzzle which required some multiplication and discovered that I had some very basic fundamental misunderstandings of how multiplication worked, which caused me

to stumble on it for like 40 minutes, because one of my mods, Diana, no, sorry, not Diana, Yellow Couch, decided to put it into emote mode so that no one could help me with my math problems, because I thought two times zero equals one, because I thought that everything times zero equals one, when in fact it is a number to the power of zero is one, which is different. What's weird is, I know you've played this one, Willie. This is the second time an Uchikoshi game has done this to me, but the first time no one saw, and what it was is that 999 taught me that I am absolutely fucking trash at Sudoku.

Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. There's a puzzle in 999 on the DS, which is just a Sudoku puzzle, and it taught me that I am goddamn awful, just terrible at Sudoku. I would like to start my side of this by just saying that take this as a pretty great example of the contrast between our styles of execution. You see, when Pat has an execution scheduled, he will sharpen up his axe, put his mask on, come down and lead you out to the block, throw your head down, and before the count even begins, just start swinging.

I prefer to walk into a room and just put a rope on the table, and then just kind of stare at you. And then we kind of stare at each other, and it's kind of awkward. And you can just figure out what you're supposed to do with the rope. Yeah, yeah. Do you have a chair? No. So yeah, man, these visual novel games, you learn all sorts of interesting things.

Yeah, so good thing you didn't win any contests here in Canada that involved you being asked a skill testing question, which is mandatory to receive your prize. Yeah, the most important thing about the skill testing question, though, is that you don't have to answer it on the spot. Right. Sure. You only have to answer it upon cashing it in. Sure.

But also, you absolutely will be denied your prize if you get it wrong. It's happened. Yeah, it has absolutely happened. I think there's two cases in which people lost out on million-dollar payouts because they screwed up like bed mess or PEMDAS depending on where you're from. BOMDAS because I was in French immersion for that. Yeah. What's important is that when I was streaming that is I entered into a parallel universe

in which I used to be able to do math, but now the new version that people were watching has a path that can't do math anymore. I'm starting to worry because I've always thought I was a pretty good smart guy and I'm botching all sorts of normal-ass third-grade, fourth-grade math situations and there's types of puzzles that I have never solved once in my life. I can't do a slide puzzle. Yeah. Like slide, but I can't do them.

I don't understand. I think the way to think about it is to look at the trajectory of what's left and think about how many bumps along the way are going to actually require you to solve something mathematically. There's not many math hurdles left in the way, so that's not going to get any better. Most math hurdles are artificial, which is kind of a bummer. While it's fun to go brush up on some Wikipedia history or go relearn or reread some other interesting things you might have looked at in school, nobody goes and does timetables

for fun. Right? No. There's some stuff that you learn in high school that you might go back and do for fun as an adult. Math is not one of those things. Unless you're a big nerd. Unless you're a humongous nerd.

So I had to take, in my last year of university, it turns out I had to have a math credit as a Gen Ed credit, and I had been putting it off, but I didn't quite remember that. So I took an introductory Gen Ed math course in my fourth year of university, and it hit that. I was like 24 at the time. It had been high school, grade 11, in 2003. It had been like eight years since I'd done any math at all. I remember reading the whole math textbook the night before both of the exams.

That doesn't fucking work. Except I passed. Jesus. That's not supposed to work. It's not. It's not. And the shit you read an hour before you fall asleep is pretty much gone anyway. What are you talking about?

The shit you read an hour before you fall asleep is the easiest to integrate into your memory. Is it the other way around? It's the other way around. Yeah, no. Reading and studying an hour or two before sleep will integrate into your memory more easily, stuff in the middle of the day. It doesn't feel like that for me because whenever I pass out with a page or a podcast and I'll stop it right before I pass out, I then have to go back and I'll have to go back like five,

six minutes in that podcast to catch back to where I remembered. Oh, well, that depends how you're going to sleep. If you're going to sleep when your body fails you, that's one thing because it has to be active participation in the memory and then sleep shortly thereafter. But I know you and I know me. Usually when we go to sleep is because we're drooping. I can't hold my eyelids. I need to go sleep now.

No, not that. It has to be active brain. Oh, well, I haven't had that in years. I don't know what that is. No, I haven't. I haven't had that since I was a child. Yeah. So, yeah.

No, like somebody was like, you say that shouldn't work. I don't know, man. Like, I don't know how much you should trust the university system at all because like, you'd be fucking amazed with somebody with obsessive compulsive disorder, procrastination issues, and the healthy dose of fear can accomplish in the three hours before that essay is due. It's like, oh, man. Oh, it's it's crazy how you can just fucking use the the fucking. What's it called?

The Chicago AP fucking bullshit to fucking find sources based off of any bullshit you fucking make up in your head and you can find it. I have told you internet that up. You can find a source. Second about the the the example of the person who I met in college who was on their way to med school to basically be a neurosurgeon. And she was a really not smart individual. She was surprisingly slow and and just like not a lot of common sense.

Just pretty kind of kind of dumb. Yeah. Wild. All right. But unbelievable memory and the ability to recall. Oh, well, that was all it took to. That's all doctoring is. It was.

I mean, at the end of the day, I guess if you have perfect recall and you perfectly recall what to do in a situation that, you know, like bone connected to the to the knee bone, I guess that'll get the job done. But it was a moment of like this. This is someone's saving lives that, you know, is is staring blank faced. Anyway, it was just like, OK, this is all about memorization. You know, you can get really far. Yeah, I don't know, man.

Like whenever whenever I was in in the school there, I always like just went and been like, hey, do I need to know this for the next two hours? OK, I'm going to learn it and I'll have it for the rest of the day. And then it can go. Yep. It can go far away. But if you want me to explain you the the the fake steps to resurrect Aerith that I downloaded off of game facts and print it out with my new printer that includes fighting Onyx weapon

and getting Sephiroth on your party. Like I could probably muddle those through to you 20 years later. When we were talking about the the the FF lies and in all the ones that came with FF six is when as well. Min described how he printed out a list of secrets of FF six. That was like 90 pages or some ridiculous shit. And they were all fake secrets from game. They were all bullshit.

They're all garbage. Incredible. OK, just before we move on here, I'm going to see if there's anything my end can do to help with what's which which is going on. Twitch wise. So OK, Doki, let's just do a quick hard restart. OK, just to make sure because it's it's getting pretty bad. It's pretty rough.

All right. So be back in a second. OK, so let's see if that helps a little bit. All right. Anyways. So yes, let those parts of your brain die. You'll never use them again. OK.

Except for the next Ushikoshi game where you'll then be. Have you heard about the Philadelphia experiment? No, I couldn't. I couldn't believe it. Like it's it that man's writing style is is is a parody of itself. But I think I think that thing where a character says something like that in the middle of an anime or so is also a way of like showing a character being really smart is that they're aware of these like obtuse moments and like foreign history,

you know. I so it's it's a it's a very it's a very it's a minor spoiler for the first game and even less so for the second. But the isomium files to engages in what I what I can only imagine is a video game stories first attempt to gaslight the player character in which in the first game, what a character starts going off on the Uchikoshi conspiracy wagon, you know, the morphogenics and the evil corporation that that sees things from space and the the aliens and all that infinite bank account to set up all this bullshit.

And then that ends up being kind of a red herring kind of thing. And then you start the second game and within maybe an hour and a half, that company exists and is real and is actually all about that shit that you thought was fake. Oh, and is actually even crazier than it was described by somebody you thought was nuts in the first game. But it's it's fucking weird. That games great.

That games great. Nothing else to say other than it's great. OK. Yeah, again, yeah, there's not many questions to ask if it's just like, I'm just like, like, are we going to get a game 10 years from now that he puts out where the final dramatic moment will be solving a wordle? Yeah, maybe. Why not?

Why not? We're on the where are we just on the timeline for a wordle, to be the final dramatic thing? Anyway. So that I mean the math, huh? It's tough. I guess we're on my week now because of the math might as well. Right.

The other stuff I played this week. Oh, it's it's it's. Hey, I saw me in files too is good. You know what's actually not good at all? Two things. One, there's a problem with people's overall tastes and the steam rating system where it just has positive or negative reviews and then says very positive or overwhelmingly positive or mostly negative or what have you, right?

And people's taste is trash. So a cool little indie game, a horror game hits the steam called Madison. And oh, it looks like a PT game or what have you. And it's got 452 reviews and it's very positive. And I'm like, well, I play horror games a lot. I will stream this horror game, right? Um. Wow, it's it's fucking terrible.

Hmm. Like absolutely. God damn awful. In almost every respect. It's it's in fact it is awful in a. So I was talking to Paige about this earlier. Or I feel like I've played like 60 or maybe 70% of all horror games. Right?

Because of shitstorm and the history, right? And all the bad ones are bad in the same way, which is what's so frustrating about the genre. They all try for random jump scares that don't hit or they don't have the right audio visual design or their core concept is lame in a way that makes it so that it doesn't get you. Right? And that's why you get stuff like the original Slender Man free indie game that was cheap and poorly made, but actually kind of excellent. And you're like, oh, yeah.

Um, Madison is visually pretty nice and it's clear that a lot of work went into it and they try a couple cool new tricks and they are awful. It is a wander around a spooky house, right? That like PT in which noises and you got to find items and puzzles and that kind of thing. There are very, very, very rare enemy encounters. Um, and the problem is in its core concept and its execution. For one, it's a haunted house story that wants to be about a witch cult, but then there's like four or five random other ghosts that you deal with for no reason. It feels like four little games combined into one.

A little bit of a democage-ian. Okay. Yeah, it has a bad tendency of wanting. So in horror games, it's a tough to make you look at the thing they want you to be scared of. And this game has it really bad. It's a hallway crawler, like, you know, in a house like PT in which I somehow missed almost every, like, visual spook that tried to cross my field of vision. And to solve that in the game, what they do is they create situations in which they lock you into like a square or like a room or like a closet or a bathroom. Um, so that you have to listen to like the audio log or the spooky noises or you have to be looking in a certain direction so that you see the monster.

But the end result is that every time you get locked in, you go, oh, cool, I'm fine. Nothing can hurt me. Oh, right. Because the game doesn't have combat really. Right. Okay. So then the mystery becomes, why is it so overwhelmingly positive? Because people are morons.

There's a sequence in the middle of the game that is like astonishingly poor in which they reorient the house's architecture. And you're walking around playing gramophones to play a song called Blue Knees while the Blue Knees monster is running around to kill you. And you have to play the gramophone for like 50 seconds in order to complete the thing. And it's random as to whether or not you'll get the item you need. And the whole time the monster is spawning and is invisible. And you have to try to take a photo of it while it gets close to you based off of an audio cue. So you're playing this gramophone and the song is awful to listen to. It is like, Blue Knees in the land all got it.

Like it's ear searing. And the monster will clip through walls to get like right through the wall. Nice. To get you. But you're supposed to be like looking out and when you play the gramophone, the camera locks to the gramophone. Of course. And it's playing music over its own audio cue to tell you that the monster, it's terrible. It's awful.

And on top of that, it's one of those games that has like no highlights or anything. And you want to get like a cassette tape to play and that'll trigger the next part of the scripting, right? Every key item in the game appears based off the scripting of the last item that you had to do. So in a standard horror game that requires items to unlock doors or do puzzles, most of those items just happen to exist and you're going to wander around. You're going to pick most of them up and then use them as you would. Most items in the game don't show up unless you did the last step in the chain. So all like explore the whole house and every single room.

And then I'll go, oh, in the bathroom, it turns out there was a wrench. I didn't see. And when I pick up the wrench, that is when the cassette tape spawns all the way on the other side of the house. So now I have to re-scrape the whole house. And that happened over and over and over and over. Yeah. No, that's grounds for absolutely fucking not playing that. Right?

Okay. Multiple. A scrape is not a real scrape until the next step. Yeah. Whether or not you find something in a room depends on whether or not you picked up the right item in the earlier part of the house. But the house is almost totally open the whole time. And on top of that, I really appreciate what they did. They tried to do a really cool sound technique.

There is a sound library that they're using, which I want to say is maybe two to 300 sounds of a door creaking, thunder, shivering noise, suspicious chair moving. You know, just little ambient noise that if you heard it in a totally empty house, supposedly, you'd be like, what was that? Right? Hundreds of them. And they play randomly. And in your headphones, it uses 3D audio. And so they play randomly, usually outside your field of vision to make you think that something's behind you or, you know, something's spooky. And the execution of that is the shittiest I've seen for any audio technique in any game ever because they play 45 seconds to 90 seconds every time.

Almost like within, after you hear a noise, you wait 45 seconds and then you have another 45 seconds before the next noise is going to play over and over and over the whole time. And enemies don't exist when you're actually exploring around. So it's nothing. So almost within like 10 minutes, all those little noises just amount to like kind of annoying background noise. Because they're constantly trying to be like, what? And you're like, no, it's nothing. And I know it's nothing. It's interesting because I'm hearing like almost like a poorly made kind of like phasmophobia type game.

But yeah, the scripting is what's making the whole thing not work and implementing anti speed run tech and, you know, things like that. Oh, oh, you want you want more? Okay, so for the last, the last half hour, me and the chat just gave up and I had a mod just feeding me a guide on like here, here, here, here, right. Including me testing the game for streaming like, you know, OBS stuff in and all that. And credits. It took 4.1 hours to be there are, there is a extended maze section in the game. That is just a pure maze. And then there's an extended puzzle section in the game, which requires time hopping that also has multiple has four mazes in it that all shuffle.

And as I'm doing it, and as I'm trying to figure out if there's even an item in my room, and I still beat it in four hours, I'm like, this feels like a sequence that has been implemented explicitly to beat the refund timer. This is just burn the clock. Oh my God. If you took those two sequences out, and the game was a little more straightforward about what you actually needed, you could crush it in fucking two hours. No problem. And then the, and it's 40 bucks. So it's, it's, it's fairly expensive as an indie horror game. And then the saddest part is at the end, and you're like, the ending is terrible, terrible.

And you get to the end, you're like, wow, what an absolute fucking piece of shit. And the first thing that loads in before the credits even start is in memory of, and it's the, the director's family member who passed away. And I'm just like, oh God, that's, oh man. That doesn't feel good when it's on something not good. No, it doesn't. Oh, and also bonus, there's, there's a $3 DLC to change the skin of your magic camera. Nice. Okay.

Oh. Yeah. Just absolute piece of fucking shit. And the thing that, that I took away from this more than anything is that when you look at reviews for a horror game on Steam, people play it for a half hour and a ghost materializes in front of them and hits them with the jump scare. And they go, oh, that was scary. Good horror game. So I was, I was about to ask, like going back to the overwhelmingly positive reviews,

like, can you then use that metric on that genre? You know? No. No. A lot of horror games are bad. Like a lot, like a lot of horror games are bad. And I bet, oh, I'm curious, because I'm thinking, hey, what's a highly anticipated shitty horror game? Okay.

Right? And I'm like, okay. So Madison, was it? Madison. Okay. Okay. A machine for pigs does in fact have mixed reviews. Good.

Because that game's terrible. What about amnesia rebirth? Very positive. That game sucks. It's not scary. Yeah. So yeah. No.

Yeah. You, oh, let's go hit the medium. Ooh. I bet the medium has. Bloober team. Blue, go to Bloober teams, the medium. That's right. Very positive.

Yeah. Much like horror movies. Okay. Yeah. Horror criticism for games is terrible. Same shit. Why would it be any different? Yeah.

Okay. That makes sense. Now, I'm probably, you know, a bit like hoity-toity of my own ass. Like, oh, is this, why not from the, the section of France? I won't even spit at it because I've played so many horror games. But like, yeah, no, just fucking, I would love, I would love to see completion statistics on Madison for, for achievements. Because like that, that game feels desperate to make itself last

as long as possible by hiding items from you. Just, just infuriating. Man, the, the, the refund timer scam tech is, that's pretty amazing because that's also like, unique to the environment we're in. We're, we're living in a time where that is what Steam's goal. That's what Steam's policy is. And you just want to see, like, if that ever changes, do games start coming out that like, time themselves differently?

You know? Oh, that is absolutely already happened. Like 100%. It's, it's, it's fun. So yeah, Madison is terrible. Okay. Bad game. I also did something else with my time that was awful.

I played FF 14, but specifically I decided that I wanted to go do an old piece of content called Eureka that I had never done. And I, it's a, they wanted to make a part of the game that was more like FF 11 where you just wander around and kill enemies, like a lot less structured, a lot, a lot more like free form. There's stuff you didn't do. Oh yeah. There's tons.

There's, there's tons and tons and tons and tons of stuff I didn't do. And then it has four stages that are like areas that you advanced to. And I got to Pagos, which is the second one. And I had heard people say, wow, I really didn't like it. And I was, I thought they were exaggerating. It's at this particular stage, Pagos and Eureka in FF 14 is the worst piece of content ever released for FF 14. It is hands down the worst thing they have ever made.

And it's impressive. Okay. It's impressive in how bad it is. Is that why did you know this and dodge it over time? So I, so everyone I knew complained about it back when it came out, because it came out like four years ago. And I didn't care about the rewards. And I just kind of didn't have time to do it.

Now they've toned it down a little bit in terms of the grind. And there's an item I want out of it. So I've said, oh, I can't be that bad. And all my friends already did it. So they already know how to help me out with it. And then I go in and I go, okay, well, the first one is not bad, the first stage. And then I do that. And I get to the second one, which is podcast.

And I go, okay, so there's, there's, um, can't be that bad. Can't. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Wow. It is terrible. Um, it is a big, big fucking giant zone where they want you to just kill enemies over and over and over and over.

Uh, and also fight like public bosses, but you need to grind two currencies and grinding regular enemies doesn't get you currency to and grinding the bosses doesn't get you currency one. So you have to split your time between the two. And the zone is just huge and has all these drops that'll kill you and high level enemies that seal off parts of the zone that you have to like slowly walk past, even though you're trying to rush to a public boss to get to it before other people in the zone who are tired of waiting, kill it is just fucking miserable.

Is that what FF 11 was? So this is the, the, the core issue they had is they wanted to have something that was like relaxed and you just hang out with your friends for a couple hours and kill enemies. But the thing is, is that you saw at least enough FF 14 gameplay that it's click, click, click, other button, click, click, right? You know, you're, it's an active participation, right? In FF 11, your damage is recorded as or displayed or talked about not as DPS, but as DPM. It's damaged per minute because skills in FF 11 are minutes apart on cooldown.

You're, you're, you're, you're auto attacking most of the time and you're trying to line up your, your cooldowns with your friends to get skill chains. So it is, you can absolutely just chat and hang, you're, oh, I'm auto attacking, whatever and chill and it's relaxed. I see. Meanwhile, you apply the same area design to 14 where you're having to push a button every two and a half seconds. Suddenly it's not relaxed.

It's actually like super, super like has to be focused and annoying and feels like it takes 10 times as long, but then, oh God. And some folks are saying it can't be as bad as another piece of content in the game that is terrible called Diadem, which might be true, but Diadem was so bad it was actually removed from the game on purpose. It's the only piece of the game that was so bad. I see. That they just said they ripped the whole thing out and used the zone they had made for it

and turned it into like a crafting and gathering area that didn't have any of the old stuff in it and was just, and just pushed it off to the side. I see. Okay. But as of right now, it is, it is crazy how shitty PodGhost was. I did not, I did not believe people when they told me and I should have. And the worst part is, is that it's a four area chain. You have to do the wind one, the ice one, the fire one, and then the water one to get

to the rewards that you actually want. The wind one's fun. The fire one's fine and the water one's good, but that one dead ass in the middle after you've already started and you've already put 10 hours in is so goddamn trash that it's making me reconsider spending any time in there at all. Is it, is this like stuff that, how old is this relative to other shit? Like, is this right after a realm reborn? This is Stormblood stuff.

Okay. So that's a couple years in. Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's a couple years in and it's a couple years ago. Okay. And so you get to see like, they made a version of it for Shadowbringers called Baja that was much better and extremely well received and fixed all of the problems. And that's great, except you go back and none of those solutions are retroactive.

And since I did Baja first, I go back to Eureka and I go, oh, wow, this is just a terrible version of that thing that I already did. But I want the shiny thing at the end. So I, I'm going to do it. So when you describe, I guess I'm just like, I'm thinking when you, when you're describing like a bad piece of 14 content. Yeah. How does that compare to?

Oh, yeah. What does that mean? Actually, not what does that mean? But how does that compare to pre reborn 14? Like, oh, come on. It's not like that. There's there or documentary. There's a documentary you can check out on no clip that goes fairly in depth into what

1.0 was. 1.0, like using the menus was arduous because it would ping the server on every fucking move of your goddamn cursor. Okay. Okay. Right. In FF 14 version 1.0, you had to craft facing like north or south, depending on the time of day to get the right elemental properties on your weapon.

Like it is, it is like FF 14 1.0 is trash on a level that is difficult to actually even understand. Okay. Well, that because I'm when I hear like bad, I'm like trying to put this all in a frame of reference here. No, no, when I talk about bad content in 14. Now it is in comparison to its existing content. As somebody in the chat points out, the Eureka portions of FF 14 are still a game that can

be played as opposed to a game that you basically can't. Not because it's not around anymore, but because it was so actually functionally broken on every level. Okay. Okay. Just everything in its relative. So here's how bad Pogos is. Pogos is so bad that when me and my friends were finished playing on Sunday, I said, does

anyone want to go? And a couple of them begrudgingly said yes, because they wanted stuff from it. And a friend of mine could not go because he had not finished the prior step. Right. It's sequential. So instead of doing Pogos, we spent most of the evening getting them up to date purely so that there would be an extra person to help us get through Pogos faster. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Because getting through Pogos as fast as possible is what's really important. And one person down is detrimental. Oh, also just for the FF11 comparisons, when you're in a big, boring area that enemies are much stronger than usual and can kill you more easily, blah, blah, blah, right? And you're supposed to be grinding them for XP and building up your light and all this crap.

And there's super tough enemies wandering around that can one-shot you if you don't walk past them. Normally that would be annoying. But Eureka is the only fucking part in the entire game in which you are going to D level if you get killed. Jesus Christ. Baja, you lose a little bit of XP and you can still D level, but it's always so busy somebody raises you.

But these places are old and poorly populated. So yeah, no, if somebody doesn't pick you up in six minutes, yeah, no, you could absolutely level and lose like 40 minutes worth of fucking progress. Wow. Okay. Which really just that's the excellence. And because Pogos is the shittiest, it becomes even shittier. So let me explain that because it's so bad and people don't like any of the rewards and

it's just a stepping stone and it's old. Let's say the population of the wind one, which is the first one is like 70 people out of 144 in the instance, right? That's fine. That's a nice, healthy number, right? You can get groups together. The system will scale appropriately. And then you go to Pogos and there's 16 people in there.

Eight of them are bots trying to farm some item and the remaining seven are all in a group at the highest level end of the instance and don't give a fuck about you. And they're just going to spawn the same enemies over and over and fight them instantly so you can't get to them in time. And when you go, dude, can you wait a second? They'd say fuck off. Who cares? The only instances that matter in here are Cassie and crab.

So shut up. I don't care. So that makes like, wow, this it makes it makes people worse by being worse. Yeah, because the only people in there right now are psychos that are like trying to get some rare item they can sell on the market board. Interesting. The quality brings out the hatred. Yeah.

Um, yeah, it's terrible. De-leveling as a design feature, man. That's something because I got to say, like when I think about like, well, Old King Allen, right? Think about Old King Allen. He he fucking grabs you. Bam. You lose one.

And then it's on your floor corpse run. And as long as you go back and get it and then like, well, beat him, you'll be able to get back everything. And the more you lose to that, the bigger that pile gets. But right, right, right. But there's a little bit of a push and a pull and attention to getting it and like keeping it high, you know, but you know, the purpose of it is to go, no, you're going to do this now.

Yeah. You're going to be doing this. Yeah. So there's a, there's, there's a nice little tug of war in that, that design element, you know, um, just saying, sorry, you lose an hour of your time or more end of story is, um, that's anti-fun. Yeah. And so part of the idea is like, oh, so it makes you feel tension when you're out in

the, yeah, no, it does. It's not good tension though. I'm just stressed and it makes it so that, um, if you're playing a character that can res people off the floor, you're constantly being begged, begged from people. Hey, can you come halfway across the map and pick me up? Please, please, please, I'm going to lose my, please help. Can you play? Can you come in on, on, on red mage so somebody can res?

Yeah. Okay. I, and oh God, I didn't even get into, uh, like one of the more annoying parts of it is the way that it works is you load into an instance and let's say it's seven in the morning, right? And you, you go to Pagos and you go, okay, I'm the only person here. What that means is that the server started up a brand new instance for you because there was actually nobody attempting to do the content prior to you.

And then you are going to be in that instance and people are going to filter in as such, right? Well, hope you go to God, where is it? You re, hope you fucking go to Eureka tracker, Eureka tracker and fucking start a new tracker on Pagos. And then, uh, immediately every time a goddamn fucking monster pops, make sure to click it so that people can follow the tracker so that you can time when the fucking next, when, when fucking Pazuzu is up because he's only going to spawn in gales after you farm this.

You click on that fucking link that I sent you. Yeah, I'm so confused by what you're saying. Basically bosses can only spawn within a certain minutes of the beginning of the instance and will once killed will spawn X minutes after their own death. So there has to be a consistent tracker running around the instance all day that people are passing around to each other as they enter and leave so that people actually know where, whether or not bosses can even be spawned. Because you need to know what the person that is just that is.

Yeah, you started at eight in the morning. Well, that means Pazuzu can be up in 90 minutes, but you have to go and farm the spirit fucking assholes at the 60 minute mark because the fucking they only show up at night and then Pazuzu will show up during the daytime next gales and gales in 40 minutes. And God fucking forbid a group of people come into the zone and do stuff and leave without starting the tracker. And don't use the tracker. Because now the whole fucking thing is off and people are spending an hour trying to

spawn bosses that can't spawn for three hours. But if you're just playing the game and you don't like is it possible to just play the video game and not know about the community tracker? No, not anymore. Because you know what I mean? This is an external tool that is now a responsibility on anyone who goes into this zone. No, not anymore, not anymore, because here's what happens. What the fuck?

Okay, I want to do Eureka. I'm in Eureka. Okay, I'm getting currency that the game's not explaining to me how I get. What is a Nemo's crystal? What is a protean crystal? Which one is that? Hey, how do you get a Nemo's crystals? You yell in the shout chat.

Somebody says, use those for your weapon. You get them from fates. And they go, okay, is anybody doing fates? And before that question gets answered, somebody in chat goes out tracker in all caps with a question mark. And then somebody posts the link to this thing. And then you go, what's the tracker? And then they go, well, we have to go prep Fafnir over in the right because it's nighttime

and we need to kill the fossil dragons to prep Fafnir because he's a 17 boss. And if I'm level 16 to 20, that's the only way I'm going to get experience. Okay. Do you want to join up? You go, what's prep Fafnir? And they go, shut up. Yeah, I just, I feel like this has been described before with like other elements. And I know Wow as well had a bunch of this, but it's like the third party things, the outside

of the game things are mandatory. You cannot purchase the game. It's complicated. Start playing it, make friends in game and solve all your problems in game. So here's the thing. I mean, you can, but it makes you an asshole. They're not, no, no, not even. It's not that they're mandatory, right?

There's a lot of, there's an enormous amount of systems. Oh shit. Tracker just updated. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Ameritag. Respond.

Okay. Anyway, yeah, I don't even know what tracker I linked you. That's like whatever the most active tracker is right now. Okay. All right. Anyway, um, but there's a lot of hidden timers in 14. Usually the hidden timers are associated with, you know, high end enemies that show up in the open world that you can kill for rewards.

Right. Um, you can decide. Hey, I want to kill. Uh, let's say what's called an S rank hunt. Right. And how would you do that? You would scrape every zone that has one with your flying mount over and over and over and over until one popped.

And then you would, you know, go in the shout and go, Hey, everyone. Uh, so and so is up. You guys want to fight so and so and people would show up. And you would fight him and that's totally viable. Right. Except there is now a discord, which is the primary thing that people use, which tracks every hunt spawn across every server. And when they are killed, they are tracked via an application and they will run hunt

trains every 90 minutes to two hours on every server and go, okay, guys, we're going to depopulate the world of every single one of these bosses. So show up and join the train and then we will just go bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang and get all of them. And then those will all be depopulated for normal players until the next hunt train. Um, there is like an ARG. It sounds like an ARG. This, this is my, this is, okay.

So there is a type of content in 14, which is a weird cross between open world content and dungeon content. And it's called Baldeesian arsenal. And it's the final thing in Eureka. And you actually fight, do you remember absolute virtue in FF 11 that boss that made all those people sick? No, no. So FF 11 had a boss called absolute virtue that made a bunch of people horribly ill because

it had to be fought for like 25 hours. Um, and after that, um, Square was told you don't do that anymore. Um, so Baldeesian arsenal created just the absolute most amazing shit storm with people fighting and shitting all over each other because it was a situation where in the final area, you want to do the super dungeon and you want to do the super dungeon with 23 of your friends who have prepared to do the super dungeon, but how do you get in? Well, you get in by doing this and doing that and fighting this and fighting that. And what that'll do is that will spawn portals in order for you to enter, right?

And it will spawn 24 portals in pseudo random locations throughout the zone that anyone can enter as soon as they see it. So you're spending two hours getting the Baldeesian arsenal entrance to pop and then it pops and you roll in with your group and what the fuck? There's like eight randoms in here that aren't even high enough level to do it. And they took the spots of the people that helped set it up. Get out. What are you doing?

And that was just an absolute fucking mess. Because BA is one of the only pieces of content in which you can't resurrect people in a fight normally. You have a certain limit. So it's actually fairly difficult and it's a huge group of people and you get people in and they just immediately fucking wipe and now you don't have the group of people you need to beat it and congrats because you and you and your stupid friends just went oh cool a portal and walked in.

Now I can't get my fucking Osmo mount. Now that however is no longer a problem because it's old and it's unpopular. The only people running Baldeesian arsenal are now organizing themselves weekly with a discord called the primal forays discord. So you would go in and you would go I would like to do Baldeesian arsenal and they go OK and they slot you in and then you show up at you know Saturday on noon and you do the bullshit and there's only pretty much you guys in there and you do it and it's fine. Just stretching the definitions of what a video game is like if you have a part of your games

history where you had a 25 hour boss that made people sick and then you realized OK that's a limit we shouldn't cross over. That's fucked up. That's insane. And like thinking that's 11 by the way I know I realize that yeah and like thinking that's OK because you're like well it's it's a lot of people playing together so we can just offload the the the difficulty and stress to the group the group can all handle that intensity.

I'll handle it. Oh my god man. Yeah no the more I play this MMO but MMOs in general the more fascinating I find the the the nonsense internal culture that arises from these kinds of systems. Like it's it's fucking so fascinating. It's like one of the only reasons Pacos has anyone in it at all is there's an item that is super rare that you can only get from it and sometimes when content is unpopular they will go and put rarer items back into them just to flood it with freaks and that works

like Bosch I had a situation where once people got all the rewards from the first part there were very few people in the first part everyone wanted to do the second part but that made it hard for people to do the first part so what did they do just increase rewards in the first part and all of a sudden it fills right back up. Man it's like it's already at the point when you need a large group of people that are very dedicated to putting the hours in in a job like manner you don't have to cross the threshold into health risks. Yeah no so it's it's it's fascinating because I genuinely believe one of the reasons why

any of this is tolerable at all is because discord exists. If I could not click on the primal 4a's discord which is a extraordinarily organized discord with chat fucking Alliance A Alliance B Alliance C chat threads for specific groups in order to line up on specific servers and a schedule and all that that's all done and runs itself basically I would never ever ever I would not even consider any of it ever right I still haven't done what's called DR but I could right when that when that when that discord becomes less popular it'll just go from oh we do it once every week to once every two weeks or wait maybe once every month and so you would go on the Sunday and such and there's enough

people to do this that know how to do this blah blah blah blah right everything to do oh god everything to do I mentioned hunts earlier where people are running the hunt train okay back when heaven's word came out discord didn't have the hunt trackers that fucking ran and you would type in a robot and a bot would record it and add it to the list and all that shit when heaven's word came out the best way to upgrade your gear was just to random hunts so you had to join an in game chat thing that only tapped out 120 people sick and and you had to just go off of the gut feeling of everyone that happened to be in that group or what they saw at the time but since it can only go up to 128 people

then sometimes the other hunt group would kill a boss without calling it and then you would get there and you'd be like what are you doing why you can't be like well we called it within our discord within our hunt group and it's fucking mass so yeah no turning these into automated processes using third party tools is a much better solution than whatever it does however have one downside so I don't know if you ever saw max talk about playing ff11 I know I haven't max was really good at ff11 and max played enough ff11 that he learned what and what enemies were gonna spawn where down to the minute and he could plan I'm gonna go here and kill this guy and get this item and he could sell that or give that

to people and that enabled him to be extremely successful in game but because ff11 was so fucking obtuse and none of these tools existed and discord didn't exist that was kind of like hidden knowledge okay it's actually well you see willy it's like a fighting game and it's the easiest way to describe it is third party tools to track and organize this thing is the equivalent of people putting their secret tech on YouTube instead of waiting until evo right does it kind of hurt you in the in the near term because now everyone can get it yes is it better overall because now everyone knows how this goddamn encounter works yes with only one exception the only exception and if you are a person who does this stop if you are a content

creator for Final Fantasy 14 and a patch is coming up and you put out a video or you are making a video on how to make money in ff14 you need to go and delete that video right now because that video destroys whatever technique it is talking about when materia prices were high and people didn't know how to make materia to sell and guys put out videos go here's how you make a bunch of materia to sell on the market board that video is up for one hour before that method is annihilated off the face of the earth because everyone sees it and then does it like all I can think of is how even line is an example of the user community running part of the game and that's as designed and that's intended and that's so that's okay because yeah opting into this game is

opting into that aspect it's not about the spreadsheet yeah there's like I it feels as if you're you know exactly the version of the game that has somebody just go like no I just want to play Eve online and ignore the community and it's like that sounds insane that's like you'd never boot into that game for that purpose there isn't exactly you're talking about a group of people who lost their minds and pissed their pants because excel was making an official partnership correct so when but with 14 it has that level of third-party community organized like you know tracking and groups and organize and things you need to be aware of outside of the game from the development but there's also the development which is encouraging you to say hey you could now go in and use just

AI to get through the story you could have a single player like experience really they're encouraging you to play it closed while it's also encouraging you to play it open they're redoing everything in a realm reborn to be like up to the quality levels of the later stuff and then they're going to make it so that you can play with AI like it's crazy god damn way through so it's it's asking it's tell it's like encouraging both levels of this you know and like do you want to be crazy do you want do you want to have like the Cerberus mount that four people can ride okay go to Baja join the primal forays discord and get ready to dive into a spreadsheet right do you not want to do that do you just want to see the end of and Walker this way to your curated right padded

experience now I suppose if all the stuff you're describing is optional content right you do have that little asterisk that says hey you don't need this it's if you want it you want the rewards the the smart thing is that FF 14 has a wide variety of what I would call tiers of optionality I guess I'm going to make that up right now so you have your your MSQ which is absolutely mandatory if you want to see the story because you have to do the quest in the chain right one two three four etc then you have your second tier which is exclamation point that's blue with a plus and what that does is it unlocks a feature that's the games saying this talking to this person will unlock a feature right then you have your further optional which is boss fights that are tougher

than normal to get rewards either cosmetic or gameplay but on the side then you have quest chains that don't give you anything that are just like flavor content on the side then you have golden saucer which is just gambling which is further on the side then you have entire zones and types of game that are in the game that are way off there for leveling your alternate character there for getting a really strong weapon that you don't need and just further further further further further off and then when you get all the way to the absolute edge of what is mandatory you have stuff like tea and ooo which is the ultimates which you see people like world first thing and fire you know going 14 hours a day on for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks

because they want to be world first so that they have a title and a weapon that is not useful but it is got a unique glow that shows off that you're able to beat you know dragon songs or preys and that's it that's what it want like do you want the do you want the legend title so that you can show off do you want the blue sword so you can show off the start of this the start of this conversation was hey I decided to go check out this shit that was over here forever that I never checked out and that sucks and that's how you found out it was terrible and I could stop right now and lose nothing but I really want this the sword that I want isn't even statistically good it's years old but it's cool looking it's a it looks like a straight

racer aesthetic yeah that's that's it yeah that's all I just want it yep yep yep yep that's what it always comes back to and that's it okay that game is the stupidest and it's going to get dumber because they're adding an animal crossing fucking thing next month Jesus Christ they're adding an island where you're going to take care of animals and do gardening and star do valley shit yeah yeah why not people are already basically trying to do everything like that anyway yeah okay okay so if you want to see more of me rant about that crap this week you go to twitch.tv slash Pat stairs that I don't have a schedule for this week yet I'm not really sure what I'm going to do I'll figure it out oh people are reminding me I forgot

I did a stream earlier in the week where I fucked around watch salty bet watch Canadian PSAs and just fucked around and did flash games just garbage right because fuck it why not I beat Chris Robin oh shit oh shit now that's an accomplishment four years in finally like just every every couple weeks I would just go fuck did you do it from the flash archive like the the collection of like not well it came back up okay I forget I forget where is I have a bookmark somewhere but it came back up it came back there's the English version which is what I was playing that's that's a that's a yeah that's an accomplishment and and it was the most infuriating thing ever because the first shot I got 39 out of 40 on

attempt one Dan and then it was 38 and then it was 38 and then it was like 37 fuck your pants size feel proud about that holy shit yeah for real Jesus Christ fuck that okay okay I it's it's one of those great moments where you start playing Winnie the Pooh home run Derby and people who don't know are like what the hell is this and then you get to Tigger and his the fucking ball disappears and it was like oh this is just some bull shit and then you get to Chris Robin and you get to see my favorite it's it's almost word for word every single time you see it which is how are children supposed to beat this and the answer is they're not they're not and that's why these things became huge cool Christopher

Robin is from the prairies so he can double fuck off yeah no that that game the the the the the SpongeBob car one there's this insane SpongeBob racing thing and just all of those just poorly made for children flash games that like ascend to the pantheon of like God level difficulty are always the most innocent brands for children amazing so to those of you who have played Winnie the Pooh home run Derby but have not actually gotten to Chris Robin the reason why he is so difficult is that he can rotate between any other characters pitches and they're faster than the the the characters own pitch and they are random I mean like you need MLB like reaction you know if you're gonna like swing and hit and

consistently do well like you kind of have to be in the realm of what baseball players really do yeah I'm basically a pro athlete there you go is what I'm saying all right well that's it for me what about you man what are you been up to okay well so let's let's start here I decided to crack open a couple volumes of a manga called chainsaw man oh yeah I read the first couple books of that you know what is that the one with the the astronauts on the moon cutting half I don't know about that maybe I didn't get that far but I'm really early in I mean I'm like two volumes you know yo pretty good that that yeah I that's that's definitely on the list of like gotta get to it yeah it's pretty

good it's pretty it's really simple it's very much like I can you're looking at it and it's it's the name kind of this creates an image right yeah and it delivers on that image a big bloody gory chainsaw man with chainsaw abilities cutting into things and monsters and doing it right yeah it's what you expect and it's what it is but like it's at least for the beginning because again I'm really early it is it reminds me of how like one punch man kind of starts in a way that is super character centric like the character exists almost in a void and then a world is slowly built around them yeah the beginning of one punch man essentially has no setting it doesn't matter it's just yeah just the guy right that's exactly

it um a setting starts to emerge and then now like whenever I haven't I'm not like fully caught up on one punch man or anything but like I know that like the the organization the league of superheroes in the world and everything are like a major defining point a part of this right and it feels as if like chainsaw man is probably gonna go in that direction as a lot of stories do but a lot of character a lot of character driven stories like this like I can see the part where it's like yeah this isn't shown in jump and it's because like the character really just like they slowly kind of give you a little bit about the world but it doesn't really matter as much as you're just like staring at this one guy walking around doing stuff and it also is like very

little like like when they do decide to have like exposition you know about things and whatnot it's pretty minimal as well it's just a simple like not few words but straight forward incredibly straightforward with what you're getting out of it let me ask you a question how like not blunt but how like simple its original premises the character's name is chainsaw man mm-hmm is he just a man who has chainsaws as part of his madness I mean those I'm chainsaw man I mean there's like like once the once the ability to become chainsaw man is unlocked he is a man with chainsaws that that are that are on him yeah okay good and that's it that's about it what's your superpower chainsaws correct yes okay got it and and there's a pretty there's a and it's

like it's like oh he's pretty strong you know and that that makes for a good shonen protagonist as well and like when they kind of start hitting at the like reasons behind why like pretty early on it's it's it's it's interesting because essentially I mean I guess like yeah like volume one or so like mild spoiler here but it's just the introduction of the idea that like there are demons in the world that are demons of things you know okay and like you know there's like a there could be a bat demon a blood demon whatever and got it got it the more people are afraid of the thing the stronger that demon is oh oh that's horrible so people's perceptions of a chainsaw are pretty fucking terrified you know therefore chainsaw would be strong because people when you

think of that you think of wood cutting and massacres horrible loud violent gruesome massacre you know so there you go done and done you know it's like okay I get it that works and yeah I'm definitely gonna just you know keep going through that and I was kind of I was debating between like waiting to see because the adaptation hasn't dropped yet I know it's like it's the anime has been announced and it's coming in I think the next couple months at some point you got to read the whole thing first so you can be insufferable about it yeah right no exactly your duty now that you've started you have to finish it before you get there it's like yeah I kind of just want fuck it but I mean it is dude it's an insanely easy fast

read to as well like the thing I'm describing about how how the world is so simple and like how the dialogue is straightforward as well and everything and it's again shown and jump you know I I don't know where it goes certainly but for the introduction of what it is it's like yep that's a that's a it's like I said I get a there's a one punch man sort of vibe to like to it and and the comedy as well is also a little bit is also in that straightforward direction as well like the character and the characters I should say are appear to be fairly simple in their in their goals ideologies you know motivations we'll see how that goes over time the main character's goal is like to honestly to not to at first it was to pay back a whole

lot of debt that he owed yeah and then it's kind of and then it's just like to live a life or he can have more than one slice of bread a day like if he okay if okay if he can if he can have a slice of bread that might have jam on it like holy shit I've lived I've achieved my dream you know and then when you get past that point it's like okay what's the next dream let's touch some titty I just want to touch a titty okay just want to just want to get it in there you know and then we'll and then we'll figure it out when we get to the next step but that's that's it there's no hokage dreams yet you know there's certainly no no collecting of the one piece there he's not exactly pointing at the WrestleMania side there is no he's the

WrestleMania sign is them titties over there and I just want to cop a feel man you know yeah yeah it's it's it's actually like a bit of a gag in how low and attainable his goals are you know it's it appears to be a repeating thing and like again just yet like three hots in a cot god damn we're living good whoa yeah yeah so it's it's yeah it's it's that's exactly it it's it's it's it's pretty fun so far I could see if this if the animation of the the adaptation is going to be like you know fucking cool and it's got a budget and things gonna look pretty well the animation preview they've shown looks excellent but who knows whether or not that's what it'll actually look like I mean it's mappa right I believe

so it's probably gonna be solid and that'll be that'll blow up that'll blow that'll blow up yeah so chainsaw man I've been I've also seen like and heard I mean multiple people have told me to read it I literally fought a person I fought a player in DNF dual whose tag was read CSM yesterday like just that literally like that's pretty good it's at this so it's it's at that state of just like hey go read this go go check it out but when the anime drops you're gonna hear about it a whole lot more for sure yeah look at the official trailer now it looks it looks great yeah but whether or not it that's like how do I put it like intro you know animated intro quality or if it's the actual what the show looks like

mm-hmm also quick question does every character have weird spiky teeth oh not that I've read so far no okay but everyone sticks their tongue out a lot there's a whole lot of tongue sticking out like moments seems to be seems to be the mangaka's thing is just a whole lot of like tongue looseness yeah he is just a chainsaw man naked man with some chainsaws sticking out go okay yeah yeah it really like I said you're you're you've been sold the idea of a one-punch man you are sold the idea of a chainsaw man and it there's the rest is just like alright where are we going with this yeah I don't know where you left off in one punch man by the way and turn because you said you need to catch up I from osmosis I feel like

he has been fighting the same guy for like over a year oh yeah okay I mean I just nonstop I just want to catch up so that I know who all these peripheral characters are because I stopped early enough on that like they were mentioned and like there was names dropped in a couple of panels here and there maybe but I haven't seen a ton of these like secondary and third-string characters in action and I know now that there's a whole roster of them people have like favorites and all that shit so I kind of just need to get back to catch up to that part I liked metal Batman exactly all that all that jazz you know and you know and here too they kind of they waste no time you start meeting other characters

other demons other people and they just like hey what's your deal and it's like it can be summed up in two sentences okay got it anyways you know so I'm crushed to death by a vending machine man so it's like yeah what's what what kind of what kind of demons are people afraid of are they afraid of a slug not really I mean kind of bats are pretty scary you know people are pretty fucking afraid of guns what's that guns guns are scary guns guns are real scary so yeah I see how much fear is there gonna be in a fucking gun demon yeah yeah a whole lot probably a lot yeah whole lot so there you go yeah so I'm liking that and I'll probably to continue and you know at the same time the method I decided to go to do it was I

just yeah I got the show to jump app and just did the sign up for it and I'm just swiping through yeah and how's that been working pretty painless pretty solid you know I might just like swipe through and if I can't whenever I if and when I catch up I might just like unsubscribe at that point but I wish I could just buy the volumes I wanted and not have to do the subscription over time but whatever I'll do it for now and it's three bucks a month you know and then we'll see where I'm at in in a couple months time but if I if I you know I feel like I'm just in it for this one thing right now so me we'll see yeah that I do I but I do appreciate the fact that like that's an effortless way to just jump in within five minutes of my my

thought of like I should start reading everything yeah I had a thought I was like alright let's start reading it and I just grabbed it bop bop bop and it was done and that was completely impossible to do you know like whenever when I was originally buying mango a long time ago and all that shit so it's nice to be able to live in that world as well you know and and good good just look at the scans and look at the good quality shit and and no hassle so chainsaw man yeah it's definitely come a long way worth it's just having a bootleg fucking everything and just the shittiest quality possible yeah if this does end up being this being this crazy complex world that with with you know insane built like come insane complexity

and saga like history to it I certainly hope that the the energy of the main character just being this one the simple dude and even and a simple dude has even easy got a little simple pooch as well in the beginning there and oh he does yeah and then that's and it's just like I I I feel like they can go pretty far keeping that at the core so good stuff on that other thing I did was I started so I've talked about Dan Carlin in the past he is a dude who does these history podcasts and he also like has books he's an author as well not a historian just a fan of history but he does a series called hardcore history and he's all right right yeah he had some great series he had one called wrath of the cons which is you know

talking about not well I was gonna say Genghis but Ginghis is depending on your pronunciation con and like the the the whole history of like the Mongolian the step and that empire and then there was also like supernova in the east which is an amazing like probably 20 hour just breakdown of the Pacific side of World War two and everything that like escalated from the American and yeah in Japanese side of things and more detail than you can imagine on a lot of that stuff really really interesting to go into so I bet I can imagine a lot of detail about the Pacific theater of World War two yeah yeah that's because I'm a stupid World War two nerd absolutely and again like I mean obviously educational but like gives

you like exhausting amounts of like perspective of all the major players involved what they were thinking at the time and then how these like pieces on the board kind of led to the results we got to you know yeah so he recently put out a book called the end is always near and it's a it's pretty interesting so far I started that and it is basically about how throughout civilization you know multiple ages and eras all there's always been the like the idea of you know the world as these people knew it in their time is nearly coming to an end you know and then it kind of just goes for and it's just going to cover every like like like multiple eras of human history and how those things came to an end and what the people were

like at the time and what the potential reasons were for it really interesting stuff so far you know talking about the like the end of the bronze age the rise of the iron age and things like that but then obviously it's going to go into much more modern times as well as it's broken up into all those chapters and yeah really really interesting I mean one of the things for example that like in one of the early chapters was an interesting premise that was brought up when you're just looking at things through the lens of history was the idea that throughout the entirety of human history up until almost like like two maybe three minutes ago most people in a lot of the in a lot of civilization have been raised in situations where as a child they were subjected

to all kinds of fucked up shit right people didn't know how to raise kids and even if they did you're in a world where God knows what you had to encounter and deal with I mean they even on the even on the short term the most countries currently operating now are in a unnaturally prolonged state of peace and that by itself is wildly different where the average person living in you know let's say 1850 prior is probably going to personally encounter a war in some at some point at some point yeah yeah you can you can reset the clock you know for those moments as it were even if it's like oh dad went off to war and then came back doesn't talk about it fucked up mm-hmm yeah yep so the idea that was my grandpa for fuck's sake the idea that is essentially

introduces one where you're just like every human almost every human being and like it's certainly the ones that were like a part of and shaping major parts of history are all like basically adults that our kids that went through child abuse in some way and then grew up to be adults that are trying to figure that out like you know one of my favorite little historical details that has to be thought of when you look at world history in general is that we are the sober generation of all time sure right okay the rates of alcoholism and drug abuse over the course of like human history in general mm-hmm are so high as to like not have been recorded mm-hmm in many cases yeah so it's just an interesting thing to like start the the the course of history

off with an idea that it's like these are all fucked up kids trying to figure it out growing up to adulthood and then taking out whatever they dealt with and into into whatever they see as like being an adult and and you know changing the world around them you're like hey how come the Greeks went to war so much is there anything that could have happened to Greek children that would have made them really pissed off as adults it's I just don't know it's it's wild so this is like one of those things that's like an it's like an obvious premise but like I you know you kind of think about it through this lens for a second you go like oh yeah like it feels like we just started figuring out how to not super fuck up kids you know barely we're barely at that point yeah

yeah let them watch their SpongeBob and you park them in front of the Xbox there you go it's done it's just free sorted it's sold the robot will do it for you yeah yeah but I so that was like an interesting aspect you know and then I'll continue through the rest of it and check back in but I mean you know I'll just I'll take the opportunity to once again like you know plug plug Dan Carlin and say like yeah this is really interesting stuff and I'm and punch mom is someone who well like I make I make fun of her all the time because like she like made it through like history class and graduated just fine and remembers nothing whatsoever yeah like okay so like whereas I my math grasp has is slipping like punch mom's grasp on like basic historical media is like it's

probably the worst I've ever it's astonishing comical right so so you know she felt like okay let me go try to fucking fix this problem and looking for entertaining ways to relearn about history that that you already know or already should know this was one of the big ones at the top of that list was just like oh here's a fun podcast you can listen to and some books as well you know for just like yeah whatever subjects you think is interesting so that is pretty good so far as well the end is always near yeah and then you know besides those two of course the LPs continue we did it I did it congratulations I did it my way millennia has been defeated do we do we talk last week about the difference between our methods I think we did I think so because it's

just it's really funny to me because like you finally did it and you did the exact way that you wanted to yeah and like congratulations like that's a kind of stubbornness that I can really appreciate and I look back to like myself just like I respect three times in 90 minutes to to try and just like what kind of stupid bullshit can I do here to make the boss fall down and give itself and and I think like after getting through it and it took its time we got you know I mean people recorded the the whole saga is there to which I decided to I decided to honestly name the episode this episode is 2.5 hours of fighting millennia without winning because listen whoever you might be whatever that information does for you it's what you probably want to know

because some people are like thank you now I know to skip this one and other people are like thank you now I know to get in there and watch the whole fucking thing on yeah easy yeah so it tells it's different for everybody you know some people take that type of title to mean this is a filler other people take it to mean this is the rich juicy bloody meat that they came for so that's it we did so I drop that down there and then there's another follow-up episode which it's accomplished and yeah I think the important part too is like after doing it that way and like enjoying how that went it is not lost on me it is completely I am I am very sober and aware of the fact that it did not have to be this way this is entirely self-imposed you know and I'm not I'm not going to grade

anything on on a scale of what I do to myself you know there's only one problem with millennia in terms of the game right not like her encounter but I mean like her position in the game people like you and I and I'm going to assume most Elden Rim players that are trying to explore everything as they encounter it you're going to get to the Hallow tree pretty much mean you both took pretty much the same path there okay pouring the north and then you get the medallion you're like oh I'm going to go check out the consecrated snow field and what have you millennia is without a doubt the game's hardest challenge as a result yeah the what remains in front of you some of them are going to give you a little trouble here and a little trouble there but by

and large it's smooth sailing from here madness way to the credits madness into Gwynn yeah madness into the rest of the game mm-hmm okay and also Hallow tree is way more intense than the last like last legacy dungeon oh yeah fucking ridiculous it's like mm-hmm way more so it kind of felt after I beat her that it was like more or less like a victory lap after that mm-hmm and then like there's something hilarious and just soul deadening about like immediately after that I'm like okay cool let me go see if I can wrap up Millicent's quest and the process of doing so involves yet another ulcerated tree spirit and I'm like I couldn't have hit a lower low after that highest high in the form of the enemy I am the most fucking sick and tired of seeing

it's it's a bummer because I was talking to a friend of mine over the weekend and we were we had all mostly gotten through most at least a Belden ring and friend of mine asked me like how do I feel about the enemy reuse right and I'm torn because I think the enemy reuse is pretty tasteful in most places because the game's so huge that it unless you explore and do everything in the game you're actually not gonna encounter so much enemy reuse but I think there's a couple enemies that were reused way way too often and that is the Erd tree avatar and the ulcerated tree spirit mm-hmm are like dragons as well dragons too yeah those three types are reused by far the most there are like 15 ulcerated tree spirits yeah that's that's too

many and I feel like fine I feel like they're proud of its animation and detail because it's really like wild and interesting did you see a fucking was it zoo I think was really did you see Zully like figured out what the fuck the ulcerated tree spirit actually is I didn't see I didn't see that video okay so in do you remember the Dark Souls 3 screenshot leak that came out a million years ago that showed a version of Dark Souls 3 like over a year before it came out and nothing in those screenshots ended up being in the game which is probably the weirdest thing and in one of those screen how why does it look like this becoming a dragon sucks bizarre origins of graphic I'm trying to find the video but there was one Dark Souls 3

screenshot that showed the eclipse and there was a gigantic serpent way in the background okay way in the back and it was absolutely enormous and I found it okay here we go I'm here's here's the screenshot I'm sending it to you now if you can put it up on the sure on the thing if you want but it was a giant fucking serpent in the background right and that thing the ulcerated tree spirits like name shares a similarity it's something serpent and then you add the pus of man filter onto the ulcerated tree spirit and it looks just like that thing in the background so that is an old Dark Souls 3 like boss way in the distance retrofit okay so those animations are probably super old interesting

and that was for a dedicated like boss which explains why they reuse it quite often and yeah I mean again like I just yeah I like I feel like when you reuse something that often like you kind of like you're either really proud of it you want to you want to you know you like it a lot you think it's something that is like a certain unique type of channel whatever the reasons are you know and you don't end up feeling that way for example about like the giant bears because you're like well bears are a part of what's running around in the wild on the overworld you know I'm not surprised to see a bear in a forest or up on the mountains or in the you know yeah um in a cave I am I am genuinely of the opinion that like especially

because you're getting to that part of the game after it's been patched and you notice the patches kind of stopped like they were coming out pretty regularly I'm of the opinion that those patches represent the two extra months of real full development sure game shipped like genuinely unfinished finishing NPC quest lines for example NPC quest lines the ability to see NPCs on the map every almost every spell has been rebalanced since launch right game wasn't done and when I think about the bears that's the most this isn't done of anything in the whole game they are the strongest enemies in in their respective zones I would rather fight three ulcerated trees bears back to back than an equivalent bear from its own

I disagree but it's just you know well I fought so many fucking ulcerated trees now I can whoop him no problem it's it's in that category people are pointing out now there was an entire class of weapon that didn't work but there was an entire class of weapon the final upgrade downgraded its damage yes 20 plus 25 made ship weaker initially that wasn't actually bugged in the database they just didn't have time to finish it so yeah anyway that's that's where that's at and another fair another just honest warning for an upcoming episode where Reggie and I get full-on stun locked on a plot item trying to figure something out and basically it was something that made reference to it was it was the sword that like a blue

dancer used and then like making reference to a fairy that that that taught a blind swordsman that then used it to seal a god of rot and then yeah and then likely went to go on and teach millennia oh yeah all the all the all the goddamn items that make references to the outer gods are all interesting also I think you might be gone okay wow yep yep there's the drop alright alright okay so hard restart on modem router computer everything let's see how this goes hopefully well oh no the podcast is still terrible yeah well no refresh amount is gonna fucking fix that problem Jesus anyway okay so I think I was in the middle of saying that yeah I got stun locked trying to figure out some details about the blind swordsman

and the outer god of rot and whatever they were talking about and oh boy technical problems again okay I think fun today yeah now I suspect that like we might be looking at a combination of local and twitch issues because I'm still connected to you find everything's fine there internet everywhere I still got you no problem but twitch connection as it has been throughout this week is spotty so I think we're still I wonder if the reason why your connection to twitch have issues and mine didn't is because you're connecting to twitch by a different route it could be it could be the New York server location could be in any case we'll do the best we can with what's going on that not our best yeah so anyway got stun locked on that warning to everybody that it's

a like a pretty bad one we got goes on for like I think like the last half an hour of an episode is just like wait what what is what what you know and we enjoy the lore the lore digs but in that one I kind of walked away go from it going like oh I hope that one's not too annoying because hey well what day do you usually record Elden Ring Tuesdays Tuesday and Thursday I'm I'm calling August 23rd okay as the final as the final stream for Elden Ring some other people are calling it sooner some people are calling it later I do have a couple of weeks there are some dates that I'm going to be gone for a period of time of course so it's oh that might mess with it yes there's an irregular schedule so that's like I felt I felt

really good about myself this was something just me and my my FF 14 guys were talking about when you started Disco Elysium mm-hmm like started like the second week you were starting to do it and a friend of mine was like I wonder how long it's gonna take woolly and I got I future told it down to the week oh shit and I was like and I was like yeah well if anyone's gonna have a shot it's gonna be me or Reggie or men to fucking pin it down right so I'm saying I'm saying I'm putting my my flag in the dirt for August 23rd okay that's that's fair I mean I'll tell you one thing about these long games that we do is you know it's like the longest in a god damn wild it is it is but like even including disco and anything else as well that like you know I'll do

long games when I don't feel that they're gonna be LP poison you know like LP poison can be like long and like dry but if it's not if it's gonna be long and wet then that's good my my experience with Elden Ring and streaming Elden Ring is that you could start replaying it the day after you beat it mm-hmm and get most of the attention still mm-hmm like I have gone through Dark Souls 3 6 or 7 times on camera at this point and if I started doing it tomorrow mm-hmm people would show up same as always those games are evergreen as anything has ever been mm-hmm and I also like whenever the game provides like good discussion fodder I'm super down with like stopping and having a mini podcast about it you know 13 Sentinels was like an exercise in where there's three sections

to the game but the fourth section is me and Reggie just sitting down and consulting the corkboard and and that takes time to walk through and talk about as well you know not to mention comparing our respective notes on things so you know what's interesting is that my usual thing would be to just you know hey body you'll do it for me sure yeah some degree a lot of people a lot of people but Elden Ring has actually been so large and body has actually switched to a like a higher production model of his channel mm-hmm lately so like he has not solved it for for the average person yet interesting interesting right like that you know he did the video that's like the the overall main plot right but actually like Zuley has actually picked up like a shit ton of slack

like hey this is what that is I love clicking on a random Zuley the Witch video and like especially you know like if there's stuff where I'll see like a thumbnail go by and I'll be like don't know what that is keep scrolling but a lot of the time I'll see something it's like oh yeah what is up with this type of enemy you know and you'll click and you'll get a just enough going on at a game like model level where you're like if you look at it from the code you can infer some things from the lore which is interesting because that's not what like a Vati video would be about you know it wouldn't be like you're not gonna have him going like well according to the file names over here you know that the like all that shit is not gonna get taken into account when you're

trying to make a narrative feeling explanation of the lore you know mm-hmm so I appreciate those Zuley videos for the little bits and pieces that's how we get the name Leonard right yeah it's how you get Leonard that's how you you you discover what every character's face looks like mm-hmm mm-hmm it's how you discover that Vare has Vare has the lowest intelligence score in the game oh yeah interesting I didn't know that yes he has an intelligence score of three that's amazing which is lower than you can get to impossible practically yeah black guard is hot he's so hot yeah right damn yeah so that's that's fun yeah so anyway we'll see how long that goes but we're moving along as is Mass Effect good times I realized as well when I played Mass Effect 1

didn't play the DLC so I missed out on that entire bring down the sky Baterian chapter hey you so bring down the sky isn't the isn't the best but learning that Batarians fucking suck shit is so worth it had no idea okay so I'm gonna tell you right now the Batarians it's like there's like an oopsie moment in Mass Effect 3 where they realize that they have portrayed every member of this whole race as like the worst pieces of shit ever and they try and like kind of roll it back at the 11th hour and they have like one kind of normal guy but it's too late so fucking kill them all I mean I've I've I've known about them from the lore entry and like the shitty stuff they do in that and then now we're seeing them in this chapter but the audience has overwhelmingly been so vitriolic

towards these things that I'm like they're terrible I will I just have to encounter and see how it goes but like the boy the well has been poisoned beyond any possibility of neutral neutrality you know you know how I'm bring down the sky there's like the lieutenant that comes up to you and tries to like offer the first guy a different solution yeah so because I had already gone through one and two while replaying it I like saw him enter the room and went oh no another one and just like blew him away yeah also did Reggie really lose the hostages and the bad guy correct I know that was possible it was crazy it was crazy I was looking at the situation going okay this is bad but sometimes justified blood on your hands we cannot let a planet killer walk away and Reggie not only

lost the hostages but let the planet killer walk away and it's like it's like it's funny too because like there's stuff that happens where it's like okay you might have a head cannon justification for what you want to do with somebody like that but if the game is not going to support your head cannon then you're just letting them walk away you know so yeah we had a little conversation about that because it's like no like like there's like there's like an idea of like I'm gonna make you see how bad the rest of you are gonna get it and it's like that's not what's gonna happen they said he's gonna go to jail and you have the choice of saying yeah it won't be a cushy one either you know and I'm just like no when you try to kill a planet you have to stop existing on

this timeline I don't care what else the cost sacrifices are there's just no there's no math that equals allowing you to get your resources together and potentially try this again when I'm not around you know yeah well I have to agree with you I tend to save the hostages but I tend to go paragon but in a real situation particularly when you're dealing with Batarians because they're complete garbage pieces of shit people that would kill a planet to serve their goals are irredeemable and worthless and have to go now what is hilarious is because again the well has been poisoned so strongly by everyone who knows the future is the idea that like we continue down this pathway of acknowledging that spacism is probably bad and that the message we feel stands truest

here is aliens are just more are just like more humans there's some good ones there's some bad ones you know but for the most part the reason why Elcor and the Hanah are super popular is because they're the only ones that are like actually super weird yeah they're very weird but there's individuals with individual motives and you can't dismiss them all now if the series happens to say except for those fucks over there which I'm gonna look at my eyes except for Batarians oh my god okay the Tarians are fucking garbage unbelievable you can't you can't shoot them fast enough the message is all about just you know accepting what what comes and it even has you going through these moral moments like there's two of them where it's like ancient old old beings from beyond your

fathomable comprehension are kind of evil but is it totally their fault or not I don't know you decide Shepard well they're not Batarian so right they're probably fine let the Rakhni live let the old growth live six eyes they're fucking shoot it there there was supposed to be a Batarian party member as there was an engineer in Mass Effect 3 and I got cut and that's like one of the one that's like one of the saddest deepest cuts because that would have been like the ability to like well actually it's because our culture and the people what the fuck is wrong with you and it yeah like because all you have to do is be like the only Batarians that go out to space our militant psychopathic assholes right everybody it's like a warrior cast or there's a line no there's a line in that

there's a line and bring down the sky where you go if the Batarians can't keep their crazies in line that's not our problem you know right yeah so they imply that the ones who want to planet kill are also way beyond the extremes the average one kind of just wants to slave and and scam people you know yeah um no shoot them all can't you fast enough well we'll see we'll see what the future holds but but yes I'm I'm walking into like a pre salted earth here trying to be objective about it but well it's there is no objectivity to be found all Mass Effect all Mass Effect information that has them in it is out and has been out for years and there's no there's literally zero redeeming qualities that has ever been written ever no books like it's no

expanded novel nothing nothing it's crazy okay okay well he wants to be like oh space in the intergalactic community except for them not them though you'll hang out with the Gaff you know like other robots what if you taught them a different thing oh maybe the quarry ins were jerks okay sure but not those four-eyed fucking freaks so yeah we'll see we'll see all of that continues of course yeah and DNF as well had a good time Freddie Loco came on we he's a high ranked hitman on the current ranking charts I'm having fun with DNF continuing to push on and I'm going to try to see if I can get to the deity ranking I think I'm I think it's within reach I think I've gotten pretty solid at it let me ask you a question mm-hmm if you get to the deity ranking does that mean

that you have finally learned how to play the game you're allowed to say you know how to play the game if you're at deity because I don't like DNF just every we mentioned this totally right before we started every time I see the game it is just here's how you can lock people down for the whole game and just not let them play and it's getting like worse like every day it's batshit it's so batshit yeah you show up to this if this is what you're looking for that's all I can say you know that that's it's for people who want to enjoy that feeling of of you know smacking the controller out of your little brother's hand you know so all that going down a runaway versus yeah and might well we'll take a look and see but might throw a wrench into the works on the schedule

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oh so we'll be getting a code tomorrow morning should let me take a look oh yeah well no there you go all right I got an email you just say yeah I want it wait what it looks like yeah it looks like there's there's the open beta starting on the 26th and then starting technically tomorrow there's you got a code yet or no just a one that went up just in just just a message saying this is happening okay well also we're like we're like assholes so like if we if we don't get codes we can just be like hey you want to give me a code does anybody want to give me a code okay I could go for a code I'll just so what's the most interesting thing about this is the open beta thing that's gonna come out like soon the progress is gonna carry over into full release

sweet hell yeah um so the game is functionally out tomorrow interesting yeah okay because yeah I before it wrapped up I got my garnet to I think like at least level 10 so I got all the extra well not even extra but I should say the full version of the character because yeah um I you know my perception on the perks so multiverses is what we're talking about that's the two that's the the smash 2v2 style platform fighter with all the order brothers characters and it was very good had a lot of fun with it last time and the perks initially kind of struck me as like you know customizable elements that are always a little dubious whatever you're getting into fighting games balance I should say but what it feels like they did here is the perked versions of

the characters are actually intended to be the full version and when you get to when you start playing it it's basically like you have a incomplete version of the character right so imagine if you were playing like tutorializing you by limiting some of your ability right so you're playing Mario in smash and when he does his down be spin like he doesn't do the final pop you and then you get to level 10 and then it's like okay from now on he does the final pop up until that point he's just doing the spin spin spin spin part of it you know so yeah I guess with that idea I'm like all right all right the the the game is intending to you to start at 10 level 10 which you can get to you know not too long a couple hours into it like half an afternoon maybe more than an

afternoon I'd say no you got to put in you got to put in a couple a couple hours of work but we know anybody at Warner Brothers hey Warner Brothers if you think I'm cool you want to give me one of them codes got all the characters on it oh yeah I don't know about that but give me give give me the skins but yeah I'm cool it was it was it was good and I remember as well that like no right I kind of no one's touched it yet right like we got to try it we're telling everybody like oh yeah it was really fun but like this one I remember bringing it up as well at like you know umad in a couple other places is like oh yeah this is an upcoming thing but I think it's not going to be real until people get their hands on it kind of like with bra god damn it's fucking

Christ I almost said brahalla why do you always default to that no the word brawl was in my head because I was trying to think of multiverses and then I was trying to think of rumble verse but you know in brawl melee it's it's all you mean you mean multi rumble verses brawl verses yeah yeah all right anyway um rumble verse people got their hands on it and what oh shit this is fun so oh people are confirming that if you don't if you didn't get into the alpha and you want to get into the open beta early all you got to do is watch one hour of multiverses streams oh and a code will show up and oh so we should probably stream that as soon as I see I see that seems like a good way to just artificially boost your viewership interesting well there you go folks if you want to

get in that's the way to do it right well that's how you get it to the top of twitch in a day isn't it this thing's coming hot it's coming in hot so that's what happened over watch two you remember how overwatch two was like the number one game on twitch the day that that beta came out mm-hmm and it was because you could get a code by watching it for an hour perfect and then and then two hours after it went on twitch like the fucking view count like cratered like 99% mm-hmm well in this case again I think you guys will probably enjoy it once you once you get your hands on it hopefully did you see them talking about iron giant no that's the thing is they're gonna I'm assuming there's gonna be new characters in this beta as well right it's probably gonna be pretty much

everybody well I mean it sounded like the leak list included way more so probably not like the DLC shit but so yeah no not that but they they were talking about iron giant like a couple days ago and they're saying we're really interested in seeing how he's gonna turn out but because for the vast majority of the game's life he was completely broken overpowered like couldn't be stopped and then they nerfed him over and over and over until he was garbage and then they're like shit and so then they rebuffed him again and now they don't know if the character is good or not so the characters in the alpha had the word experimental on them when they weren't sure what was gonna happen and you could feel it you could definitely feel the

experiment illness so fine chalk up iron giant experimental also like I assume that he's shrunken to be normal sized instead of actually iron giant sized well he's pretty big but he's not like you know 25 fucking feet tall okay yeah he's like he's the tallest character but he's like you know oh he's wow he is really tall he's like two and a half times taller than Superman hold on what I got a gameplay video hold on I'll send it to you he's fucking huge oh shit he's massive yeah okay whoa they really are okay they're making him big yeah alright like he's still not as big as you would think because he's you know he's like 40 feet tall no but there's like a side-by-side screenshot of him standing next to the rest of the cast and like he's literally

twice no that's sentinel sized yeah okay well then that's gonna be you got a balance around his head his head is above the second platform when he stands on the bottom platform on stages oh interesting okay no wonder that character was a mess to balance yeah it's it's fucking it's fucking gold light hand yeah well I remember when when Abigail first got announced and it's like can you even jump over him and it's like well yes but it's gonna be weird on the on the size balancing so okay huh interesting I guess we'll find out shortly um man this game looks cool man I'm real I'm so happy to be excited for this game yeah yeah and again once folks get their hands on it you'll see just all the all that the fact that it's so well thought out

and is properly you know making itself different from Smash were in a lot of ways and not making the same mistakes that Nick Allstar Brawl did is like yeah kudos guys good shit plus there's also I believe like talks about a big tournament budget scene thing that's gonna be done like a good sense there's gonna be some kind of tour with a prize pool and whatnot which often it would not surprise me there's so much money going to every part of its presentation yeah that money would also go into its promotion and that goes a long way towards getting like you know like talented players to get interested in participating or at the very least competing for you know a season which you know helps promote and shit so yeah okay well generally

speaking the news story on that is July 26th is supposed to be the open beta date when everybody can get in but you'll be able to get it tomorrow if you really want to but you can get in earlier if you yeah if you share a gmail invite okay other things you know what else is happening in hot multiplayer gaming I yeah absolutely if you liked warframe well here comes soul frame digital just announced that ten I want to give a big shout out that part of the soul frame announcement is that friend of the show Rebecca Ford has now been promoted to creative director over on warframe so spaced mom is now running control warframe on warframe that's pretty cool which is so appropriate and Steve is now going to be the the head creative on fucking soul frame

so it's a couple of it's going to be slower yeah so I saw a couple of key words that certainly piqued my interest I raised an eyebrow when I was reading about soul frame and they said that it's going to be a slower melee focused fantasy setting so it's in a lot of ways going to be a bit of in the opposite of what warframe is which is you know fast guns space tech oh dude you don't like at the point warframe is now you don't even shoot your guns you just cast you just hit you hit your button and everything dies okay warframe when soul frame comes out I feel like we're going to look at warframe as like the longest the longest most expansive game jam ever to create new ideas for a real game the idea of them starting over and learning all the lessons that could be learned from

warframe is very exciting because there are many lessons that they learned from that over the years I had the discussions about PVP and and how to fix it and how it's been treated or has been sounded like a source of multiple lessons the question of course is when you say slow melee focus that makes you think of souls it's got the it's got the goddamn word in the title I can't I can't imagine that is by accident so are they really just trying to say hey we're going to take that type of framework and apply it to what we do with warframe in an MMO context so they've they've described that warframe has had like hub areas where there's like towns and then open world sections and those have been coming it'd been like increasingly more complex and that soul

frame is going to use that as its basis instead of warframes like randomly generated corridor crawling shooting and then adding you know open world stuff on it later so it's probably going to be closer to an understandable MMO as as you would think this is me pulling it out of my ass but based on my experience with warframe and warframes open world stuff and the descriptions of soul frame I'm feeling a less pvp focused version of what absolver was supposed to be mm-hmm mm-hmm okay okay it's it's funny how you know studios will do something and then learn and then move on to the next thing because absolver taught them how to make sifu you know yeah and now warframe is moving into what sounds like a souls type setting but if you really like step back

though and take that part out of it slow fantasy based MMO with melee focus is also just what MMOs kind of are yeah to begin with so it's like in an in an opposite warframe context it's the it's it's interesting because you're contrasting but on its own it's like yeah but any game where you you know MMOed with a sword and went and fought a dragon with some buddies is also that right but you know there's a lot of streams there's you know good shit so you can trust it probably the weirdest thing about soul frame is I'm watching over the trailer again and I can't think of any setting that has ever done this despite it being humans and like you know fantasy instead of future robots it is the exact same art style like it is how do I describe this like the the the style of

ornamentation the color palette the design on every piece of armor like you you could literally just say this is what the orakin were up to prior to making a warframe like it looks and that probably speeds up the production process for this game five-fold because you don't have to figure it out it is the warhammer to warhead to warframes 40k make sense like it is so clearly recognizable yeah if you have to switch art styles drastically then you have to come up with a style Bible and after you come up with a style Bible you have to get all of your artists to like you know get used to that and work it out and then iron out what doesn't work what goes too far hit the hard limits and then with that style guide you will now create a whole new world of things or you can use what you've established

and is working and I think you wouldn't name the game something so close to warframe if you didn't want there to be parallels to the two right oh yeah they're gonna continue in parallel it's come it's inviting the comparison as opposed to saying warframe is that old shit and we're moving on to some new thing completely you know I'm liking people saying warframe minus 40k okay yeah sure sure I can dig it cool I like melee focus as a word that's a good word I enjoy that there was a point in warframe's life cycle where melee was more important than it is now and that was my favorite time of that game the best time warframe ever had is there's a point in your playthrough where you used your your abilities your gun and your melee equally and that was great and I would I would man I would

kill to go back to just more melee options um yeah anything on a date with this fuck no yeah now I guess the other bit later well the 10 year game right like it'll happen and then it'll continue to happen over the course of a decade what I'm gonna tell you right now is get excited for next year's 10 Ocon to give you a vague date that they're going to miss cool um so there's there's there's soul frame now alongside soul frame there's news as well stop the presses holy shit there is news bayonetta 3 trailer has dropped and if you ever wanted your girl Nero showing up yeah I have to say I'm so disappointed in everyone trying to go oh it's Gurgill or it's Vir girl are you out here in my mind you are all blind and stupid it's clearly zero yeah no no zero fine yeah we can go with that um yeah no it's Nero again

like jacket attitude the third the rival is already there you know the rival is already there we've we you know Jean hasn't gone anywhere like this is this is like big Nero vibes and um on top of that there's the like um a little bit a little bit of edge to her that is probably gonna get um danced on by by bao you know looking like and looking like she's got um a sword as well that's gonna be a big you know demon summoning unique thing is her like it's gonna be about her and her weapon as opposed to like her and her hair so yeah yeah um bao 3 some of that got shown off and if you are a naive angel you can start naive angel mode which is uh what people thought nintendo would force bayonetta to be when they first got involved which is like the hair covering uh and like more like I mean it's all

censored anyway but it's like more censored on the clothing and the cleavage for like madame butterfly and shit like that too uh so there you go naive angel mode of course I can feel the like you can you can feel the the attitude that like platinum games is saying the name of that mode with you know like a cameo style just like okay whatever if you say so piss babies here you are um but uh it's coming in october great great halloween game also I love the the fact like you remember people were like I don't know if that's our bayonetta and all the stuff about the voice actor in that first trailer and this one is is fairly conclusive it's not and that's not our gen in fact there's two different gens in that trailer yeah something's

happening uh and the the the the twin tails it's a multiverse and the twin tails are also like creating the shape of the three in the logo so the hair is also part of what they're going with on the aesthetic of the logo um cool well there you go it it does exist shout outs to the bayonetta news tracker with uh the screenshot being bao with her jaw agape and john just blurring out of screen as she sprints off to wherever the news is coming from I really appreciate that twitter account like the I mean they they blew it up on there is news but they have continued on every single day that's great of what the latest news is um I'm always down for the like the third new kid showing up and you know yeah giving them a chance to stand with the others and let's see what you can do

are you fun to play all right no problem yeah well also I mean for for people like us that are big DMC fans and whatnot like there there's the bit where she's actually like knocking on fucking phantom's face and talking about his heart body and I'm like okay we got a bayonetta game we got multiversal bayonettas we got phantom's right there I I am now head canoning uh Dante's mom Eva as a witch it's like that was always a goof but now I'm done it's done it's that that's real I don't care I'll fight you I mean if you're going if you're going parallel universes and realities you can do all kinds of wild referential shit you can do whatever you want um but I was gonna say that like it's funny because like the whole like the third new kid bit um

you know nero obviously we see how that goes and uh you know you know is the is the shining example but technically if you think about it you know ridin is also the third new kid absolutely you'd think he was the second but he's not right gray fox is the second there right so snake in and you still get to play as him he's he's the he's the vr missions you do protagonist right oh yeah you do you do in vr missions so you get snake and ninja and then ridin is the third new kid coming along later that's like oh I could do it too let's say sure you can buddy oh fuck no wait you actually can so um yeah we've seen this trope and have loved it like before you know it's I'm very I'm very down to see what Viola is going to be like

and really um it it it does it is make or break depending on like whatever your gameplay hook is but let's say Viola comes out and she's in this game and her style of play sucks that's okay because she can come back next time and they can reinvent her completely and you know yeah and you get you get one games leeway to to to be awkward and then don't it's not it's not too important don't worry about it what matters is by the time your revengeance happens we want to make sure that you can be more fun to play with all your your uh devil bringer buster arms and shit um bayo 3 october 28th okay other things going on I feel like that game is the game that is going to have the most leeway to just jam as much dissonant platinum

game stuff in it as conceivably possible that nintendo will accept like no but I mean like oh uh the oh there's items from another world that have fallen in and into your thing as the collectibles and it's like oh get this robot police dog toy and it's fucking it's a stand from astral chain and you know and yeah and you know it's also um a good excuse to well based on what we saw from that first look at it like we might get another feeling of like here's some of the scale bound that was like saved and dropped into this you might get a feel for what scale bound would have been um they might even look at viola as a like scale bound character replacement you know I don't know maybe they don't see her as a nero I mean her her summon is out all the time

and she can write it okay well did she put on headphones at any point she you know she's gonna she might she might um so eyes out for that I suppose and then also yes a good excuse to have like different versions of each of the characters in terms of gameplay style you like here's your bao one bao possibly the uh fucking jen is a pirate on a space two two train whatever okay fuck it fuck it and then you know this time around as well like yeah like the get your your you know rodin and and any fucking whatever playable enzo for all I care like anybody just throw a ball in there you know have fun with it what if enzo was french um yeah so well also I gotta say the timing on you talking about this is kind of hilarious because the

enemies in a bao three look exactly like Excalibur from the hit game warframe oh do they because they inch the trailer introduces them as neither angels nor devils not paradiso or you know inferno but gonna grab you a fucking screenshot here something partially human so here's here's Excalibur from the hit game warframe for you woolly yep okay that is like yeah I'm not I'm not nuts right like the default enemy looks like just like that with the with the blank face and features a little bit a little bit um sure sure yeah and I wonder and that's the I guess that's the other bit too is like with a whole new category of like a new whole new like series of books of enemies to introduce here with this third faction like are you now just gonna have three games worth of absolutely yeah

you're gonna have you're gonna absolutely carry in the whole roster from one and two you're fucking you're swindlers of progress you're like all of it's gonna be in there um so the big question on something like that what I doubt it very strongly because it would be very mechanically intensive is if you are going to fill up a whole roster with three separate types of enemies if you have multiple enemy types within one encounter do they dislike each other as well that could be interesting that could be interesting that would probably be a fucking mess my big question is are they going to bother trying multiplayer again or are they just I would like them to try it for the realsies instead of the weird version we had last time yeah um

I mean even in the like you know the the hey DMC three we added co-op to bloody palace like it's barely it's like we didn't do much but there it is it's like a mod did it a modern did it like even that it's like fine fair enough don't think too hard about it but let it be decent okay so bao three aside um sony bought bungee and welcomed them to the playstation family okay what does that mean I mean they've been in that process for a while the way it sounds like is that bungee has been managing destiny but in addition they have been working on uh the new live surface game in the background for a couple years

and my understanding is that sony wants that hmm um exclusivity on whatever the the destiny's like yeah the next thing is because everybody's buying up potential big old franchises like the microsoft scott the Bethesda and whatnot it's so this is such a weird one though with like the history of bungee and its various like exclusivity moments you know and then oh yeah now on sony playstation from the makers of halo comes new thing which was originally apple exclusive mind you yeah don't worry about it don't worry about it I think bungee's the weirdest one because I think like there there it is and there the probably I think there might be the only one that like went exclusive

for three different platforms and then and then after a while in about 12 years um one destiny for whatever it's no longer this in the glimmer in our eye then they leave sony buy them their own exclusivity back from sony uh they're gonna enter into a deal with nintendo sure and get off to make a game for them that being said uh I still think this is you know sony responding to the acquisition wars and just raising the chips 100 right so um this you know this might end poor well whatever happens like the the the the that web of like lines that just ensnares every single game company uh continuing to get like uh simplified into the bigger top corpses never a good thing um but this this acquisition war in particular between the two uh might end in all in some

studio closures and people getting fucking fired left and right at some point in the next couple years like I don't know how this is gonna shake out you know it's a gamble but if people don't buy in that hard on these exclusives um they're not gonna wait too long before they go yeah fuck it cut losses we'll have to see um and it'll be fine whatever if it doesn't work probably if it doesn't work just stick goku in it right yeah is that in reference to anything uh how about the fact that Goku Vegeta and Beerus are coming to fortnight what that's crazy I can't believe it um I can't believe it late to the party but it you know what it it brings something to mind I'm kind of interested now because like Dragon Ball joining the guest roster is it's an obvious choice and it's one

that people always tend to talk about but um but the idea of them waiting for all these other franchises to get in first or you know them kind of like holding back until they can figure out the details with um uh you know like Bandai or whoever they they um not not Bandai but like publishing companies Japanese publishing companies and shit um it kind of it's interesting if you take a look at the list of every single franchise fortnight has crossed over with right yeah I think you can look at this as a definitive list of like here are the mascot franchises that are willing to collaborate with anything providing it's big enough that you can get to this point um there's always been a there's always been stuff that's willing to show up everywhere no matter what's

going on like you know how shovel knight is like fuck it shovel knight's gonna be there no matter what game you got going on no matter how big how small um why what's the reason he's gonna be there fuck it shut up he's there some you know some some studios are just like just there we want we want them everywhere um and I feel like Predator and Alien and uh you know Robocop as well to some degree have been like these games where or have been these ips where the license holders are more than willing to shove them anywhere uh for crossovers so like in history we can just look at this list of force knight crossovers it's like okay definitively right these are the companies that are willing to push things yeah um stranger things has had weird crossovers that's you know

there was that whatever that mobile game was like they're they're trying to put that in that category Naruto obviously gets into that category uh Marvel and DC obviously get into that category not every cartoon but rick and morty will get into that category you know the walking dead will will be like yeah put Negan in Tekken and put uh whatever uh Mijone and Darryl in Fortnite like it's a list you can look at of like this is your roster of picks for any guest things going forward of high enough profile so goku Vegeta and Beerus getting in is obviously awesome right especially since uh you you didn't play the fortnight but way before Naruto there were these horrible anime girls that they put in as part of their season pass that had this filter on them

that look like complete garbage uh and every time uh a new anime girl would come out the filter would be substantially improved and it was fairly clear that what they were doing is they were trying to get it good enough that you could put shit like Naruto in the game and sure enough when Naruto gets put into the game and the filter gets added to him hey he looks fine yeah right and so now Goku's gonna look fine but why try to make it look fine when you can just do Eva in PUBG yeah um what else is uh have you seen those things i have not dude well look here you go i'm looking right now i'm look uh Eva in PUBG that's what you get when you when you don't have your anime filters properly sorted out you know that that could be worse it's weird

yeah um because the plug suits on realistic humans just look like they're a bunch of latex sex freaks correct um but i'm not gonna name names because i don't want to blow this person up because i'm sure they're very nice but um the way i found out about Goku this morning was this person's tweet going around and they're a fortnite uh a content creator apparently a kamehameha in quotes will be added to the game as part of the dragon ball collaboration i'm not exactly sure what this is going to be but it most likely could be a new mythic ability and there's like a screenshot they posted with goku doing it that's hilarious and that's that's surface to me with with a tweet going around going like people who play fortnite competitively or for content

seem like they've never seen a tv show or played another video game in their life master chief from from fortnite of course yeah um though that being said what it could be and would be interesting is that i don't know if you ever heard about what the Thanos thing was oh where you get the the gauntlet and then you can play as you get the stones and then one person gets to be Thanos i did see that they also had one with a Darth Vader where if you got a certain thing you could be Darth Vader and you would have the abilities you could do something by throwing seven dragon balls on the map and if you get them you get to be goku and your moveset gets flight and you know super speed and energy blast instead of a gun

yeah i mean considering that you're basically just another insane god character that makes probably a bit more sense than just using a goku skin running around popping shots you know um though like it that will stop being funny to have characters that like are super humans and just like but i have an ak yeah but the problem is if you collect the seven dragon balls and you turn into biris uh everyone's gonna be fucking pissed because nobody wants to be biris everyone wants to be goku or vegeta i don't want to shoot biris with the ak i want to shoot goku you work hard to get those balls and then you you know you mean i can't be goku i gotta say uh this proves that uh uh smash brothers is the worst game than fortnite damn because they got the goku first

oh man i mean i think saura's a harder get than goku i i feel like saura's no saura's a taller like mountain to climb hmm i don't know about uh you know woolly i want to point out that uh when you said nobody wants to beat biris people in the chat going i love biris biris rules i want to have sex with biris okay um there's some biris stands out there okay all right all right folks let's just let's just be reasonable here okay of course if you're listening to a podcast like this you're into shit enough to be like yeah i'd love to play as biris i'm not talking about you i'm talking about the kid who calls master chief the halo man in from fortnite that kid doesn't want to be biris

what do i have to explain this it's obviously what you do you do you do all right um i guess we'll see what what happens um but hey what if instead of goku um how would you think those kids would care if they ended up turning into yuyuhaka show what about that i think they would be highly fucking confused um well prepare for confusion live action yuyuhaka show is coming and it's coming to netflix apparently but uh seems like it's not a netflix production it just happens to be the place where they're gonna be airing it i i read like the first probably three i think i think three volumes of that i want to say min loan me like the first couple of those and i read through them

and i thought it was pretty cool i didn't get to the part where it becomes like a big tournament because of course it has to um you mean the dark tournament i did not get to the part where it became a tournament but i was reading it when it was like just a little like you know spirit detective bit and um i was like oh yeah okay that that's that was that was pretty pretty fun for a bit now i i have no idea what's going to be happening with this live action stuff and i have no idea whether it's the kind of series that like could be done live action i'm really glad to see that yuyuhaka show is now uh it's reached its its cultural um significance to the point where it can upgrade itself to the important medium of live action like death note and dragon ball and

uh cowboy bebop and leave that crummy old animation and page and line work behind um you must have missed uh that post where uh the warning to not confuse live action yuyuhaka show with uh the cowboy bebop situation because it's not being made by by netflix therefore it might not be as as bad as that ended up being in such oh don't worry my my derision exists uh broadly for live action adaptations of anime and manga properties yeah i i you know i i want to say we've brought this up a million times and it's always like okay at best it comes out and it's like well that was all right and then obviously at worst it ruins everything um but it's never been a situation where it's like oh fuck that was better or or at

least i'm i'm having a hard time thinking if i came up with any examples of a better um live adapt live adaptation um you know i think the kenshin one was apparently pretty good that's the kenshin is that that one's pretty kenshin's the example of like yeah that was that was good right exactly i that that came up last time as well um 20th century boys was good um um you know there were a couple of them where you're like yeah that that was a good movie i have no problem with that um speed racer is a kind of a wild crazy example we bring up every time to speed racer is speed racer is is crazy um but i hated that movie when i saw it and then i thought about it like 10 years later and i had this moment of like no i'm an idiot that

movie was great yeah and then of course you know if you want to stretch it a little bit you can get into um all you need is kill um you know but that's i think the reaction is the same in that it's like these are always there's more except there's fewer exceptions to the rule than there is just like the rule generally ends up in a bad adaptation so i i feel that the ultimate proof that uh live action anime uh is trash uh as a general rule they have some exceptions uh but the the the ultimate proof of that is that it's accurate enough that even an american anime that is avatar the last airbender an anime made entirely outside of asia was still able to fall victim to its own live action curse uh yeah so yeah here we go there's the post that says uh uh random reminder netflix

is not a production company uu live action series production robot communications did not produce the 2019 reboot of cowboy bebop or any live action series you see on netflix robot did produce parasite duology movies allison borderland a parasite eve movie no really and tukashi mikes terra for mars holy shit terra for mars live action i've seen some clips of that it looks not great yeah also i have to say calling something like terra for mars live action is pretty um um loose with the term when like there are technically actors who are unaugmented in shots but 95 percent of the film is all cg i don't think that counts yeah um having having not seen uh the shit that uh is is you know what everyone loves about uu

i'm gonna go ahead and assume that as a classic anime it is just not suited likely not suited for this type of thing but what are you gonna do they're gonna keep talking show is like kind of uniquely dorky in that like the main character like finger bangs demons to death with his finger gun like i feel like the first thing you're gonna see is a screenshot of him not having a pompadour you know and it's like step one oh god yeah well anyway we'll fucking see but as of now it's just an announcement so i i don't got much for you on that um yeah yeah gto gto as well there's an example of like yeah i fucking love the live action gto gto

live action that was good that was good it's it's they they were smart and they're like well it's gonna be live action so we're not gonna be able to do stuff this crazy what should we focus on the romantic angle make it much more of a romantic story and guess what that was smart i wouldn't i wouldn't say it's better but it certainly was good oh it's great i i watched the live action and then i watched the anime and i'm like wow the anime is incredible but the live action has more of the romance angle and it's just like oh no are they gonna get are they gonna get together well they won't they and then they did in real life oh did they yeah oh that's cute that's really cute um

yeah so there's that just a random quick announcement here they've been they've been teasing it but we've officially uh locked down that there will be a winter port this year of the rumble fish the rumble fish the rumble fish two for the first time getting ported to console weird that all this noise i feel like we summoned this into existence weird that all this noise about the rumble fish two is happening now but it never got ported it so yes please do and uh this is a dimps fighting game and you know dimps like aiding is one of those behind the scenes fighting game companies that comes in to help you when you don't know what you're doing but you have an ip that you want to make a decent fighting game out of and um rumble fish is also very unique

in that it's one of the few examples of a vector based uh sprite game so it's 2d oh it's weird and it looks like super robot wars looks with the limbs kind of sliding around a little bit um more than individual frames of animation across the entire sprites it's an effect that like i it's it starts when it's done badly it looks like shitty flash and oh boy does it but when it's done well like you see the latest super robot wars games and it looks incredible um and rumble fish was in that era where they're starting to figure it out not quite a hundred percent but it is like it is an interesting you know piece of history uh and it's fun it's a fun fighter so i'm i'm glad it's coming out of nowhere um from that fucking atomis wave era of arcades 2005 is when the transition

was happening where essentially fighting games quote-unquote died and um you didn't have cps3 you had the end of neomy as an arcade board and the new arcade board uh the tito type x2 which would then house street fighter four was still four years away or so so the in between dark period you kind of had the atomis wave as like a receptacle for a couple of really like the atomis wave board games it's a weird they're weird ones they're weird you know little fragments of history but yeah it's it's there's some stuff on it you know um just don't play kof neo wave and and you'll be fine i forgot that game exists oh man that game is fucking terrible don't talk about neo wave never ever talk about man it's trash you can't you can't i'm gonna go look at it there's kof games

that have years there's kof games that have numbers and then there's the ones with neither and we don't go into the ones with neither it they did they did drop um artifacting two geese howard in it so young geese howard with the long hair in the white suit oh man i'm looking at it it's so ugly but just yeah so and it was because they were experimenting with like switching it over you know uh to the new engine basically because that's that's what arcades had in the mid-auts so anyways um rubblefish too coming soon good for the rumble good good for them and still nothing to do with the sequel to the outsiders whatsoever nothing and then um

um we might be i think this sounds this story kind of sounds a bit like jumping the gun because the mario movie isn't even out yet but nintendo has acquired dynamo pictures and will rename it to nintendo pictures wow they must be really happy with that mario movie they're hard committing before the thing is even out uh guys you know i really i have to say they must be so in love with the mario movie that they're gonna hold up chris pratt as an example to italian americans everywhere i mean the upside of this um is that they already did work on death stranding persona 5 and other m with post production stuff so it sounds as if um uh they are you know just looking to acquire a studio that's been you know worked on game stuff already and just

get them to do film bits but if they help them out with the you know animation on their games as well then sure no downside i'm sure they're trying their best and doing a good job that being said um if mario there's no win on that mario voice there's no win on it at all i there's no i just like if this comes out dude and it does i mean in like we might be in the era where like like you know with sonic and such it's like you can you can spend enough money to get it like acceptable you know and we're i think we're in that era of like they they you can you can just focus test it and drop the cash until it comes out being like yeah right you know that's fine

you can avoid a a a john leg was ammo adventure uh yeah but i'm just saying like like mario mario sounds like a bunch of different things right mario sounds like right like the mario in the weegee games he sounds like charles martin a uh he sounds like captain muel bono he sounds like uh what michael huskens is that his name the cartoon version no no i'm talking the the the movie okay um um so he either sounds like a fucking hilarious stereotype of italian people going oh but the pasta oh no or uh an italian american plumber who's like swing your arms from side to side yeah a vivid about that right a bob huskens that's it um but chris pratt is neither of those times a hundred no he's just protagonist man

and so we either get chris pratt at which point what the fuck or we get chris pratt doing one of those which is also what the fuck yeah yeah now here you know what's you know what is not what the fuck is charlie day just going as luigi yeah also charlie does italian sure yeah sure okay but like what the pepe silvia thing if you if you like fucking auto tune that so the words go away that sounds like mario and luigi dialogue pretty much he's just gonna go in that direction yeah like the high pitch like that that thing is gonna absolutely translate perfectly over to luigi no question you know but yeah like it should have been like paul geometry or james gandalfini but i think i think the move is like no young

normal protagonist hero man i think that's the move they're going for they're not going for the actual mustachioed italian stereotype you know they don't want it they want something that sounds like a character that'll have a moment on a trailer a whoa whoa whoa they want them to probably sound like psai kind of kind of i mean john ralfio you know like he got there um i feel like we're heading towards what i feel like we're heading towards what might be the stupidest discussion of all time where oh do you like sonic or mario better it's like well the mario games are better but those sonic movies man they they they're way okay okay but uh but like this discussion but like sonic's voice being like shaped by the jaleel white nasal thing like that works because

he's a mascot hedgehog and then later when they're like no let's just make him sound like you know we'll go with the again the john ralfio and you're like yeah he's still a mascot hedgehog whatever right that's that's probably fine yeah but the the major part like sonic's voice has never been an identifying quality of like his character in you know especially the older games uh mario the moment he got a voice it became the running punchline of that character for every game since early games there were no voices talk like that and then the moment it became a thing it was like oh this is the bit the Charles martin a bit is the is the whole thing we're doing here so oh you know what mario should sound like mario should sound like that that italian guy on

tiktok who married an american woman and she secretly places a camera in her kitchen while she breaks spaghetti and videotapes him freaking the fuck out in like by bitty brooby italian sure sure that that's like just oh no are you oh no the spaghetti that's what he needs to sound like yeah um and and uh there are some people uh might be disagreeing with the statement i just made um hey uh pat what is the defining sound uh that mario makes when he jumps i mean there's a couple there's boy and there's yahoo and there's whoo whoo yeah what's the what's the defining sound that sonic makes when he jumps it's it's the sound of a jumping noise yeah not him saying anything yeah so i will say the the sonic cartoon stuff got like way

stronger mind share over time oh yes like you're too slow oh yeah chili dog shit and don't let your stepdad touch your dick absolutely absolutely um knuckles especially uh but even then they fucking reinvented the knuckles within yourself anyway whatever we'll see the trailer is going to drop and it's going to create shockwaves and then they're going to go back and uh cg mario to make him look less weird because he looks a little too realistic but not quite realistic enough like a weird little human with perfect human skin i'm so excited for the mario trailer everyone is going to be mad there's there is no way there is no way it has it has to be when the credits roll and you go yeah that wasn't that remember that bit

that was a really good bit that was a really funny bit and then remember when charlie day was did the fun the other funny yay that was a good good bit all right oh i could tell you right now charlie's gonna steal the goddamn and it's like remember what everyone else was funnier than mario remember when the rest of the cast was yeah i mean they got jack black as fucking bowser right that's a plus you can see it coming a mile away this the show stealing all right let's take some letters hey if you want to send in a letter uh talking about some bullshit or whatever i don't i don't give a shit uh go ahead send it to castle super beast mail the gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com here is one coming in

ethore says dear and kindled one and kite lord uh in the fate fandom the original fan translations always translated sabers name as artoria or arthuria right uh as in like that makes sense because it's supposed to be king of feminization of the name arthur that roughly matched the pronunciation used jump forward to the official translations and suddenly the creator decides the official trans wrote the official romanization of her name is altria vehemently so dead set that sucks it's that's way worse altria the fan base violently hates this and refuses to accept it and choose to refer to her as artoria to this day even though the creator stated intent is completely something else it's altria uh do you have that's way worse the fan base is

right to hate that that's way worse uh do you have any similar examples of the fans refusing to accept the creator's will uh so that's that's your good-ass death of the authorship obviously um man that is that sucks it like when it's when the this you're going off of a source material that we know better than you but you just happen to like the way this rolls off the tongue uh perhaps with an accent you know version of it uh yeah i can i i get it i get it i get people going no no creator you're wrong on that one um guts and gatsu is like the fan translations thought about that for a while i hate it um but we landed on guts officially right so i think that's okay uh yeah people are just going in on jk rowling fine jk rowling did you

see that shit at the auction no oh there's a famous auction called christie's auction that auctions high ticket high value items to crazy rich people heard of christie's and often donates the proceeds to charity a full set of harry potter edition one autographed went for nothing no bids it's oof um yoko taro said his name is not near is that a thing he did he had it oh that's he's wrong i don't care i mean you want it you want to get into this shit yeah let's just start talking about how to pronounce any monster and monster hunter i'm still i'm still talking to my friends about tigrex versus teagrex teagrex and it's like it doesn't matter how many times i show them the clip

of the fucking game the game devs saying teagrex like but it's like a tiger it's tigrex yeah no yeah like you say tigatron you don't say tigatron i don't in my head i i just teagrex i i don't know so yeah it's i mean yes that makes that does make sense it just linguistically i don't know why it feels like it goes towards the other way but i'm not well because it's supposed to be it's supposed to be latin so tigre okay okay there you go yes that's that's why i i'd read it that way that that ain't a hill to die on um

yeah no that's great uh artria or whatever um like people art artoria or artoria is is way better well that's like the only like the best possible result would be after years of the battle eventually the creator just referring it referring to it as artoria or arthuria and just giving up that'd be amazing uh anyway okay there you go all right we got one coming in from ben who says dear castle super beast um the sport that pat wants exists where teams are tied uh to their location it's called uh cal i'm gonna try this calcio storico or calcio storico sounds greek um it's italian so italian uh it's a type of rugby football historic football mixed with mma it's found in florence italy dates back to the middle ages it's a sport played between four teams

each represents different districts of florence and the district that you're born in determines what team you represent and you don't ever change it as far as i can tell there's no money involved in the competition just pride in the ability to say you're the best for a full year the game is only played as a semifinal and a final so each game is really make or break and then you can check out some videos of people playing essentially rugby that then breaks out into mma fighting uh i just i just typed it into the google calcio storico the image is the most dangerous game of football and it's a guy with a headband covered in shoulder down in mud with blood all over his fucking face i see lots and lots of blood so uh this is in fact the sport that you

have been asking for i want it and it's hey italy good job on this one and even you're gonna get an unironic double thumbs up from pat pasta was a good start this is continuing as good shit and the fact that you're only allowed to be on the team from the area that you are born in as well uh also just underlines that that means and it's and it's small so it's like a city district so it's super super vicious intent because like if you're you know say you're doing a national sport right how much fucking beef are you know people from uruguay gonna have with people in norway right i don't know i don't know if there's any long-term historical connection between those two countries but if you're talking about the city of forints as the macro scale yeah no i bet you

guys on one team know a bunch of pricks on the other team i there's a screenshot of someone mid-power bomb um and also like a giant like sumo-sized man over here so yeah okay there you go calcio storico done that's great that's great all right uh let's take one over here so ed says uh dear mister you know and mister you know what we should do pat oh that's like one of the best ones in a long time uh once mentioned how star wars is focused on filling every blank space conceivable for disney to get their money's worth and it got me thinking about bad continuations and knowing when to stop um imagine if you will a dmc sparta

video game you guys once said yeah that nothing capcom made could ever live up to the hype of sparta so it's best to just keep him a legend if a spartan game was made everything you could have imagined before gets stifled by canon once you see it that's what you're stuck with no matter how awful uh by the principle of things better left unsaid showing off every nanosecond of a particular fiction can be more detrimental than leaving room for the imagination it serves as a deterrent against official limitations so let's call this the sparta effect feel free to use the term yeah um there's a there's an example that predates that by a couple decades that i think is probably uh much better um uh so have you ever seen the movie hellraiser will it yeah it's a horror classic it's

pinhead uh there's like five hellraiser movies um every single one but the first one is complete fucking garbage oh wow i've only seen that first one and i forget i forget which one but the third or fourth one goes into how did pinhead become pinhead he was just a man before and it's it fucking uh man yeah okay okay it is it sucks you don't need to know why pinhead is pinhead wait there are 10 hellraiser movies since then probably i imagined shut up i thought there were fucking five holy shit that's you know now that is one of those franchises where it clearly must have went straight to dvd after a certain number where you don't oh the two onwards you don't even hear about them theatrically in any context yeah but that was a that was a big deal

horror movie back in the day i absolutely recall and i remember the the third one on vhs had like a very uh it had like a striking vhs cover that would stand out at the video store um yeah only seen the i can only know the first one i think um hmm first one's good hmm sure that part where that dude explodes because of the chains is rad um also god damn when i later um saw the god hand in berserk i kind of just went oh it's it's the it's them we're we're doing it it's the it's the weirdos from that the camera it's literally just them yeah um imitations the sincerest form of flattery drawn drawn by an inanimate object too as well you know uh and okay let's take one come in for more realm who says uh dearest to organizer and teed off orb grinder tis the season of fighting

game competitions and as such discussions old discussions are new again one that i've seen every year is seating as preferential treatment for superstars or fits to make sure everything is fair for all players my novice smooth brain feels that pools um based on when someone signs up would be the most fair and that everyone just fights their way to the ladder from there but i'm constantly being shouted down by louder voices that i'm wrong and dumb and know nothing about how it's done in the fgc i beseech you to demigods for an explanation from realm okay so before you get into the much more comprehensive explanation sure i will just kind of knock down the idea that seating uh as a result of sign up puts the power of the bracket

into the audience which can be gained so you can't do that it can't be completely inside the participants control because you could they could manually create themselves wherever they wanted by by by organizing themselves okay so obviously when we talked about the the the killer bracket you know and whatnot the the death pools and so on uh hilarious results can ensue by going down any of those routes but if you would like um a reasonable explanation for it that is not your friends just yelling at you i can attempt one of those um as someone who's organized and done toing and had to seed players accordingly so the basic idea is essentially that um at the surface level you have the thought process of you don't want like you have the thought process of

okay if you do seating you can avoid having what you usually would be finalists meeting up too early in the bracket right um and that is kind of like the the idea that like okay if this is these are probably the best players but you don't you you would want to avoid them just have meeting up right away on on a random whim that's not a great enough explanation for um in general but on a surface level that's the first kind of thing that happens there um the idea that and if and it's like yeah the idea of preferential treatment feels pretty shitty in that context but what is actually you're trying to accomplish is um any example of prior results uh should lead to an ability to weigh things so that you can avoid not just having it's not just having

finalists meet early you're also trying to avoid people who are new potential players that are good from getting their chances stomped out because their bracket happens to have two finalists in it right so someone who should be able to make it to you know the top eight and possibly have like a trajectory if they end up like of course random if some people might look at it and go random is random and that's the rule and we want random to be um a part of what this is and if you see things that way then um that's that's valid you can run a tournament that way some people also like running single player brackets with us not single player a single a limb with no losers bracket and and uh all kinds of other things it's it's entire that's vicious very vicious it's a

vicious bracket but the idea of of what is happening with the seating here is something that will help what generally most players want a result that feels like you're ranking at the end of the place in your placement is comprehensive and an accurate placement of how good you are according to everyone else in this bracket right yeah there's also concerns past that right oh i have more for sure let's but yeah i just want to let's ignore fairness right let's let's go uh to there's two that come to mind one is viewers right if you have every killer in the tourney in bracket one you can get into a situation where the back 70 percent of the tournament is just a clean sweep and no one's going to watch the final so because it's you know it's it's daigo versus some guy

yeah so that that was and he sweeps them so my next thing was lopsided finals lopsided semifinals lopsided top eight is a another reason exactly um by having those people that would rank them so would place higher regularly have to get eliminated through that system you end up with the one strong player just gliding to the top and it's particularly uninteresting um but here's the semifinals on you're gonna sit down you're gonna watch three hours of the finals here we go and it took 25 minutes right and some people might say um it doesn't matter that it's uninteresting it's more fair but and it's like wolf okay but people who are playing again would like a result that somewhat resembles their accurate ranking right now the only way to actually get an accurate ranking

of everybody is to sit and do a round robin if you had everyone that entered evo play a thousand matches against every other competitor and then you saw how many of them you beat and how many you tied and how many you lost you would then know your exact number but obviously that's that works for your 32 man locals it does not scale up it scales up exponentially you can't precisely so so seeding allows you to make up for the fact that it can't be a round robin but we can look at your previous results and everything else you did this season this year recently and go okay that shows us some weighting that we would be able to um guesstimate like your strength according to uh um if it was a round robin you'd have the time for

all that data now we can't kind of do that but this gives it a chance to avoid those results avoid a a lopsided finals avoid having people who are in the middle just getting stomped out way too soon because the two strongest killers made it out of their pool no one else did and if you didn't have those two killers you would have gotten way higher you know um yeah and it's and it's generally something that most people entering the tournament kind of want to have like a reading of their where they're at with so um that's that's the general thing behind it the other the other concern and probably the final one is that skill and potential skill is not the only factor you run into a situation let's say a couple years ago for evo there is suddenly for the first time ever

historically a disproportionate amount of entrance to the tech in tournament that are coming from pakistan right uh what would it look like for your bracket if you put every single guy who all came together as a group on the same plane in the same bracket from pakistan you would get what 20 guys and then the one guy who made it out of pools is the only rep from that whole country that gets to actually have a shot at top eight and be it for you know people from let's say that we're talking about evo and vegas people from korea people from south africa people from uh you know brazil etc you don't want to pit the people that came all the way across the planet to your event to knock each other out of the tournament yes now that is a secondary factor

that you use so when you actually create a bracket and you seed um seed by location is the secondary factor that'll determine uh where they go so people with the same flags they try to push them away from each other and that's exactly what as you mentioned it's a preferential thing it's also really shitty if you fly halfway around the planet to be eliminated by your training partner um you know a team kill as they call it it just sucks so it's just in the courtesy of being nice to people and giving them a chance to really like go against you know a completely different group of people they try you try to seed somewhat for the diversity of location as well um but let's say i want to go to evo right and i want to enter into the fucking pools and i'm finally going to do it for the first

time and i sit down and you're sitting exactly exactly in fucking bracket one i'm never gonna fucking go back to evo are you kidding me that feels like shit that feels like shit now sometimes it does happen and uh it's unfortunate i mean there have been times where like a player from alaska sits down next to another player from alaska and they're like oh my god really you know and it's like well it is the same country but it just is unfortunate in that regard it's not going down to a regional level or sub regional level um but yeah you do you do seeding of from location as a courtesy you do seeding by skill as a means of getting a more accurate ranking result uh yeah i hope that answers your question i think that's a pretty definitive breakdown

thanks for the good question real cool all right that'll do it