Castle Super Beast - CSB 177: Cute Cat Game is More Cyberpunk Than Cyberpunk feat. Ludvig Forssell

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

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am never able to tune in for the real thing. Oh, this is going in. I will fight you to get this in. Okay. Now, now, now let me one second. That's the audio. Hold on. Audio. One, two, one. Oh, boy. I love, I'm loving this. This. Oh, boy. Hey, I just started streaming. How long is it going to be before I stop muting myself and then just coming back to the show and, and not be, and the answer is never. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're seeing OBS all right. Oh boy. Okay. Okay. All right. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. We can fix this scenes kind of stuff. They I just need to add a secondary desktop to the scene so that everybody can hear that. That's all we need to do. So give me a second. All right. Oh, we're gonna wait. Now

you're okay. You're double. Now we're infinity. Yeah. That's okay. No, that's okay. Hold on. And now you're now you're being heard for the moment. Oh, hello. Okay. Hello, everyone. Okay. God damn it. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you okay? Copy this. And then we're going to go back to work. I thought you guys were professionals. I mean, do I have time to get my new hat that I got at the store? Because I got a new hat. Hold on. Hold on. No, you don't. No, you don't. It's about to be good. There. We're good. We're golden. We're fucking what's perfect. Okay. We got audio. Yeah. We're like my fucking kick my fucking mind you did right now. No, no, you're all in. Everybody's in. Everything's good. Get rid of any, any type of nervous feelings that

I had prior to this fucking up from the beginning. All right. Every single time I make a new scene in OBS, I screw it up. Yeah. The only way I've figured out how to solve it is to just duplicate it and then just remove the parts of the scene that I don't actually want. I never used to keep the audio as its own inputs. I used to just let it be across all scenes. So all my different scenes never mattered. But now that I've separated it so that you know, you can have the individual muting on each individual seat. Anyways, we're there. We've arrived. What's up? That's perfect. That's how we do it. CSB style. Ludwig, why did you agree to this? Why did you say yes? Joke answer being that like I wanted to see the parts where you guys fuck up the stream

prior to removing that part from the audio podcast. Actual answer being like, well, some people out there might know this, but like I've been listening to the podcast for the past like six or seven years. So like it's it's always been like personal gold to be on if I'm being honest. It's super cool to kind of be able to be right there in there with you guys. Mind you, I might be like the worst guest ever since I've probably asked the other guys that you've had on, but I'll do my best. I'll do my best. I'll be I'll be I'll be the guy I was debating whether I'd just be sitting back and like shutting up for all the like fucking fighting game talks. But I think I'm going to go

with the stupid questions approach. It's like, what is that a character? So who's that? I think the best part about that is that, yeah, that used to totally be a threat on this podcast. But now I have also become that person. When will he is talking about DNF like I'm never going to actually play DNF. I just want to ask the stupid question about does this game make you cry? And the answer is yeah. And what is DNF? Well, perfect. You don't need to know. Perfect. Now, here's the thing. Right. It's like sometimes I'm listening to the podcast and and like I zone out for a second and you're talking about a game or whatever. And you only mentioned the game at the very top of the conversation. I'm like,

what fucking game are they talking about? I always try to bring it back at the end to I'm aware of that. I try. I try. I do. It doesn't always work. But you saying no matter how you feel about like what how you might perform, quote unquote, on a podcast, that doesn't matter. The fact that you said that you've listened to a couple episodes and you've heard us over the course of a couple of years means you know what this bullshit is. Therefore, we don't have to worry about that part. And that's all we need. Yeah. If you're aware of our bullshit, that makes it that's the that's the best possible thing you could bring to showing up. I used to have like two hours of commute on the train every day. Yep. Before. And

you know, like I got through the podcast pretty much every week back then. Can't say that I've had the pleasure to really listen as much. Don't even take some time to listen to last week. So like I feel like I'm right there with you. We've got to shit. Don't bother. It's all good. That's why that's why we're bringing in the guests, man, because the formula is stale and it's garbage off the rails. It's awful. Last week was unlistenable. It was like a legitimate technical disaster. I don't blame you. And and audio fine. I mean, I'm happy to report. Yeah, usually that's the thing is there's two levels of technical disaster. Everything audio wise that we just went through was perfect. There was no issues there. It was all just the live video

portion, of course. And with that being said, I was extra nervous given how badly the streaming situation was last week. But I fortunately can say that like after absolutely resetting every possible device in this house and then getting on the phone with my ISP and speaking to Phyllis, dear old Phyllis, she walked me through why doing not just a reset, but a full on factory reset of your router every couple years is a good idea. Because apparently that's what the issue was. We were having tons of cash. I was wondering we had tons of cashed bullshit stored up over the course of years on the router. And she can see on her end that the factory reset that happened last time was like four years ago. So she's like, Oh, yeah, that's probably it. Do one of those get

the pin, you know, and then we'll see it reconnect. And then sure enough, I was able to stream just fine after that. So she didn't tell you that you've clogged up all your tubes with fighting game crap. She did not say that. She just simply said it was a matter of resetting every couple years. And you know, and you know what, I mean, I got to say, like, I was not expecting it grandma to like know her shit. But she came in knew exactly what was what. She's like, Okay, wait for that fourth light on your router. You know, over here, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. And she'd like she handled the problem. It was one of the smoothest ISP experiences I've had, I got to say. And it's so far it's fixed. So that's cool. I think we're good. Fingers crossed.

I mean, like, yeah, no, that sucks to be you guys. Yeah, yeah, like, obviously, everybody knows this. Japan has like one of the most stable internet's internets in the world. Oh, we know. But I actually I actually had my internet go down for the first time since I came out here. And I've been here for 15 years now. Last week. And it was scary because it doesn't happen. It literally does not happen. But yeah, came back came back two hours later or something. It's it's so good that like, people who, you know, make fighting games over there sometimes forget that we suffer out here. And the if it works, get on over there, then it's all good everywhere else. I still remember spending every single day for multiple hours a day for over a month,

talking to some guy at Bell Canada, because we had spent the money to buy the fast internet. And what we got was bullshit that didn't fucking do nothing. And every single day. Well, did you try turning it off? Yeah, dude. And then you start reading the script back to them, like the checklist script back to them. Like, yeah, I did this and I did this and I went to the 180 second I did this and I did this. That's going to be a tier two. And then you talk to tier two and tier two is Phyllis or some equivalent. And then they go, yeah, no, that's totally on our end. The whole building blew up and all the internets in your area are dead. Can I can I fix that? No. So should we have some sort of formal introduction here?

Yeah, probably. Probably who am I? Um, I guess hello. Hello. I'm looking for hello. Oh, welcome to Japan. I'm Ludwig Vercel. I'm a composer. If you guys know who I am, that's probably because Pat and Woolly have mentioned me before on the podcast. I used to be a composer at Yeah, I used to be the composer and audio director at Kojima Productions. So I wrote the music for like MGS five and Death Stranding. And now I'm a freelancing composer writing music for shit. And yeah, no, I live in Japan originally from Sweden, but I've been here for about 15 years. So I don't know, maybe we'll talk about things Japan, maybe we'll talk about Japanese video games that I don't know shit about because I rarely play them.

Um, but, um, uh, that's probably why I'm on here. I mean, you're, you're also on because you're a pretty chill guy. We had a beer in Japan and a good chat and that was a lot of fun. Yeah. So yes, yes, I totally. No, no, I totally, I totally reached out to you Woolly and used my power as a Kojima Productions employee to get you to come out and have a beer with me. It was good times, good times. Honored to have you on. Awesome. Um, I mean, the most important thing to me here is the Ludwig here is the person who crowned me the world's greatest Death Stranding player.

I really appreciate that to this day. That's important. That matters. And also, and also I'm drinking a monster now because that's stupid fucking like I can't. You started like halfway through, right? I started it ironically, right? Yeah. And then I started drinking them every day. And then eventually when we moved out to BC, we're like, you know what, I might as well just be drinking cocaine. So why not switch to coffee and tea maybe? I'm going to finish my coffee in a bit and then I'm going to be cranky. We'll see. Product placement? It works, it seems. Exactly. You know, like I think that the monster deal thing was originally supposed to be Red Bull,

but like didn't like, I guess the guy, the producer's friend at Red Bull wasn't able to pull it off and then they reached out to Monster and became Monster. So like, you know. The fact that like Monster is in, see, Monster has a more of a boomer energy kind of vibe to it. It definitely does. Yeah, that ended up working out great, I think. Yeah, it's got the whole tribal tattoo thing going. Yeah. So, hey, I suppose there might have been one or two mentions in the past of you on this podcast here or there and, you know, that's in the past. No need to go digging too hard, but I will say a solid 30 second video of your facial expressions in response to whatever might have been said. That was good content, sir. That was good listing.

That was good listing. Much appreciated. Yeah. It was my honor to do it. That was a weird experience, like waking up to that whole thing and being like, what the fuck is going on? Just that little like, and there it is. Okay. All right. Yep. Yep. Anyways, well, cool. Glad to have you, of course. Now, usually, yeah, I guess we jump into, you know, this part we talk about what we've been up to, what's going on with our weeks and so on. You've had as many weeks as you would like to discuss. So what's been going on in your life? And yeah, what's up, bro? What's up? What's up with you? So I'll say that first and foremost, I've been pretty fucking busy working on this film that

I'm working on right now. So I haven't really been doing much, but like working and then like sitting down watching some bullshit Netflix in the evening. So I haven't really been playing any video games since like April. They're garbage. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. I was playing fucking GTA five for some reason, because I felt like it picked up the PS5 version. And like before, I've been doing this whole thing this last year. I think it happens when I'm busy with stuff that I just rewatch stuff that I already know what it's about. Absolutely. So like rewatching a bunch of different animes and replaying video games. I started off like replaying The Witcher 3 for like the third

time early this year. The third time? Yeah. Yeah. I've sunk a few hours into that game. Are you just like skimming it? Or are you just like going all the way through? I yeah, DLCs and everything. I think this might the third one might have been my most thorough playthrough this time. Like I don't think I missed any sidequests or anything. There might be a few fucking pirates caches left in Skellige that I didn't fucking swim out to get. You're telling me you're telling me that you didn't blow an entire weekend of your life that you'll never get back getting into a boat and getting all those fucking question marks under the ocean so that you could break them all down and make five sets of armor that you're not going

to use like I did? No, it ended up being like half a day. But then I said fuck it and did the last boss. Hey as somebody who did it, oh god is it not worth it at all? Like not even close. So when you're describing like you know what you're doing in like spare time and like I was expecting like some like easy doing activities as opposed to like the game that I've heard is one of the longest and most in-depth intense experiences. I wouldn't have expected Witcher 3. Yeah but Witcher 3 is like is like sleepwalking. Like there's no effort required. Okay. Yeah no like I think I've gotten since Bloodborne I've gotten every Fromsoft game and I end up only playing Bloodborne because like it gets to that point where I just like I need to work and I can't

remember controls well enough to actually finish any of those games so and it's Witcher is perfect for that because I can like I don't need to think about like actually learning how to play the game pretty much. Okay. Yeah no so like Willie for your particular experience because you went through some of the Arkham games the top of Witcher 3 combat is significantly less complex than the beginning of Arkham Asylum. Okay. So it really is about the like other things in the world. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I was talking about Witcher 3 this weekend because I was I was actually doping a one and three I would describe as like both Witcher games prior combined plus Elden Ring plus maybe Fromsoft's entire catalog in terms of content like it's there's a lot there but it's not fighting

things it's going places and talking to people. If you're just going through back through that and you're doing like I guess you know surface level runs for example let's say you weren't going in depth what's the fastest you're getting through a game like Witcher 3 like what's the how long to be to find out. Yeah. I don't know. I think you could probably get through it in like 30 40 hours if you play like casually. Yeah. If you beeline it I want to say like 45. It's yeah. 51 is the main. Okay. Wow. And I mean Ludwig you remember this moment where the first time through did you scrape it. No I think the first time through I was still like I can't like remember exactly but I think like at that time like any game I played I played it

way different from how I play them now. Like I started scraping pretty much every game at some point a few years back and when I played the Witcher 3 first time I was just like whatever I don't know these characters I don't know the story I don't give a shit so yeah so I totally beeline it the first time. My experience was the scraping it but I spoke with people at the time who are be lining it and Witcher 3 has this weird thing where it builds up a long term goal and then you reach that goal and it goes just kidding there's 50% more game like it builds up to a gigantic I mean there's the battle at Kermoren right and it builds up to this gigantic climactic super battle that's going to be the end and it essentially just goes like

welcome to chapter three after you do it and you're like but but how yeah that's one of those games oh sorry okay that's one of those games I feel like I've I was pre-sold on from you know hearing like you you talk about it and then like definitely like just yeah lots of people recommending and such and it you know I do want to go back and eventually do two and kind of figure out what's happening one I understand is just I mean I'm sure you'll get into it this week Pat but what perfect timing right yeah that'll be that'll be a you know maybe a dodge and a YouTube video at some point but the the title screen theme or for Wild Hunt is incredible the vocals on that I remember being like that's some good shit that kind of hooks me in right off the bat

oh yeah like pre-dlc because the title screen changes once you have the dlc and so I haven't heard that in years and years and years since the game first come to me it's really weird discussing this game because like I'm like somewhat of a casual mainstream type of gamer and and like when that game came out like in my circles like in the game industry like everybody was talking about it and like even meeting a person who's into games and haven't played The Witcher 3 and we're talking about it as if it's like their first time knowing about it it's sort of weird like to me really I it as that's where I am in this in when it comes to the video game world like I've worked in the industry I know a lot about what's happening in specific pockets and then

massive blinders and other major important influential corners of this thing and that's kind of I guess what my channel is is trying to dust off the fog of war on things like The Witcher which everyone has watched or played or knows about yeah I as the only guy I literally know at all who even bothered to play Witcher 1 um I don't know if you remember either of you I mean well you have a better chance of remembering because you were there but the podcast where Witcher 3 came out on the best friendcast and I'm sitting there and I'm talking to the three of you about the absolute most shit hot game to come out in multiple years that is the talk of the whole internet and it says it's as hot as it's ever gonna get and I'm looking at a fucking room of blank

fucking stairs yeah just like so does he control weird yes he controls really weird okay I don't know why it controls like that now smash cut to us with blank faces as the concept of pub g is being explained to us okay don't you dare separate conversation I ever had with Vinny and he's like well you don't know what pub g is like no don't you dare pretend you're above it you know god damn it happens sometimes I'll be yeah I'll be honest though like you Witcher 1 and 2 like I know about those games before 3 was announced you know like I think everybody's like that and and um I don't feel like there's a need to play them like if I wanted to I could probably check out your playthrough now Pat but like yeah no I that's in the end I just just go watch the

no clip documentary on it and and like you get enough information on those games to get like the deal you know I was in this weird place where I'm watching the the lead up to Witcher 3 and then they changed the the title the the logo to remove the number three because they didn't want to scare people right right it's the mass effect thing of like this is the great time to start and it was a really weird because that might actually be true with this one because Witcher 3 is like 10 times bigger than its prior sequels combined it's absolutely like it's it's five games in and of itself but then you get to the end of Witcher 3 and the ending makes no sense unless you play one and two it like they're like here's your reward for going through the whole series the the prophecy

and the ice and all that shit that was built up over three games that is never mentioned once in Witcher 3 at all well here it is and it kind of I spoke to some friends of mine who were just like why did you go to an ice planet dimension there I don't know unless you read the books of which only two were in English when Witcher 1 came out I was gonna ask in the first what if yeah yeah there's eight books read like a couple books and then started Witcher 3 well here's the most you want to talk about okay so you know how we've always done chronological order and stuff like that for like you know Metal Gear is the longest term argument of like where do you start right Witcher the Witcher games have the worst chronological order argument of all time

because Geralt has no memory of the events of the books which are all prequels and then he completely regains his entire memory halfway through Witcher 2 so the optimal reading order is play all of one play half of two read eight books then finish two and then go on to Witcher 3 shotgun order sure yeah um and then afterwards watch the show and complain that's how you fit right okay yeah yeah I have my own head cannon for it and it's all based on the Witcher 3 yeah that so I don't know how to talk about Witcher 1 because on the same on the same merit of say of little thing you're saying you don't really need to play it I can't really disagree with that because it is a fucked up game made by weirdos who didn't know what they

were doing yeah um it doesn't control like a real video game it doesn't sound or look or act or use mechanics like a real video game it's one of the most poorly optimized games of its own era it only uses a single core and there's lots of city streets so chapters two three and four run like complete garbage no matter how strong your computer is and it's running off some piece of fucking shit never winter nights two engine where they just move the camera from isometric to behind your character and it it like I'm playing it a couple days ago and I'm doing an escort quest in which random ghost dogs just attack the character I'm with at all times but if I get too close to areas where cutscenes play the cutscene will start to play as the characters walk towards their assigned

cutscene locations and we're being attacked and taking damage mid pre cutscene nice and then all enemies freeze in their own attack animations in some cases in midair as we're discussing what we're going to do as if there aren't dogs and in one case a character saying oh thank god they're all gone as there's a bunch of glowing green dogs literally biting her mid cutscene frozen in time only to get to the right spot and complete the quest only to have a dog appear out of nowhere and kill her and fail the quest while the quest succeeded marker is showing up on the screen premium euro jack fed which are one is love it is right next to stalker clear sky in terms of eastern european countries make video games different they shoot for the absolute peak

of what they can't do just they can't achieve the goal like which are ones goal is which are three okay and it's an abject fucking failure it is a total mess i feel like like the the um the the the the three names that come to mind with the word euro jank are witcher stalker yeah and like metro yeah the metro series no metro is pretty smooth actually by comparison okay yeah from the start what's that first one uh metro was good from the first one it was all right it was like it was a little strange but like it it like when you shot your gun it felt like a real game right if you want to really dive into the the garbage you want to get some fucking divine i cyber mancy shit a game for no one i um no one wants it what was the sequel to 2033

it was last like last which is a genuinely real i'm gonna use air quotes real video game yeah i i had that that was qaid for a minute in the office i didn't i barely spent a couple seconds on it and i only started in early state so like it was just jank jank at the time but um yeah i was i'm not too i always kind of figured that series fit into that category as well so it's it fits into that category because it's made by devs who worked on stalker and then left to make their own company so it it's very stalker adjacent but it has real levels and real gun shooting and it controls like like the number one thing i don't know what your personal experience with with insane euro jank outside of witcher three is lidvig but did you play witcher three right when

it came out um yeah i think so witcher three came out right before um mgs five so i think i played it as we wrapped production and i was having a bit of time up now at the end of 2015 so i think it was like six months after release so it was definitely patched okay so because you have to go and change movement to alternate regardless um the number one signifier of your deep deep euro jank is why does it control like this and witcher three absolutely still maintains that heritage of garylt controlling like not a real video game character he controls like a fucking car or a horse or something yeah why is it why well because because and metro doesn't feel like that so it kind of escapes its own you know euro jank ukrainian jank kind of of history okay um all right

uh anything besides witcher uh going on i'm going on like i've i've been consuming all the mainstream bullshit like that nobody cares about because it's just so fucking like man nowadays we never fucking cover it so fucking hit us i don't know what the hell's going on with gta five absolutely oh well gta five like it's one of those things where i've i've been like getting a feeling like i just want to see this story again and i play it and i go through it up to a point where i'm like okay i'm i don't feel like that anymore so like i've done the same thing with a few like enemies that i've been watching too like i'll go through it to a point where i'm like okay i don't need to finish this anymore i've i've done it like three times before um but um like i don't know

like did you guys talk about fucking obi one and all that shit not at all just how did you guys i kind of talked about how mad it made me but i didn't watch i didn't i didn't watch it i'm behind on my star wars tv does he fight dark vader you know like if there's one point in that whole series where the fans are like okay i guess they need needed to make this show it's like when that happens it's it's to put it shortly it's like why wasn't this a movie instead of like six episodes of nothing happening and and everybody being like well this leia child actor is like amazing and um yeah uh it was i'm i'm not supposed to talk shit about stuff that's okay you know like there's

you never know when you're going to be in the same room your expectations were not met on on now on what okay because my main question about because i as again i want to go see what the bob a fet show was like and kind of catch back up and come back around to obi one eventually but the the main thing i wanted to know about it once it wrapped it was like does this improve something about the character or introduce something that makes obi one a more interesting part of the lore overall in any way you know that's kind of what my my my my question is about this whole subseries yeah i think um first like so i i i never watched um the clomor stuff so i think that people are into that are going to find way more things that they

like and connect to um so to me it was just like people who like the prequels are going to like seeing more of mr obi one kenobi just being on screen and that's pretty much all they do they they like really work hard to make it six episodes okay it feels like okay so i know exactly what you're saying my biggest gripe with the whole series the whole show is that there's so many like small things like you know in in in any um tv show like plot holes or whatever but there's so many things that just you think about them for one second it's like that nobody would do that right this this this doesn't make sense like they spend half of an episode like bunkered into like a bunker and and like having a whole squad of storm troopers trying

to get in only for like one of the bad guys to after having stood outside walk up to the door and like shove a lightsaber into it and opens right away okay yeah okay and stuff like that all over the stretch time yeah okay it reminds me uh i was seeing uh some people over uh on my timeline have started watching the boys which i have currently ignored and i don't think anything was going to get me to watch it until i saw i want to say what mr feels but talking about how it's the only like hour long tv show they've watched in years and years that feels like it's actually using the full hour to do stuff yeah in that uh and they describe something that i felt very strongly is like i watched um moon night right and i watched some of the marvel wands

i watched some of the new streaming you know here you go and it really feels like the b plots all exist to go nowhere and to fill up time because otherwise you could totally do it in a 22 minute episode hmm yeah yeah and so that's a weird one why why haven't you guys watched the boys because like i that's that's my favorite show of the last i've watched season one uh five years all right yeah yeah i watched season one and uh i i also read the comic way back when it when it came out um so it was it's interesting though because it came out so long ago that like i i don't remember a ton about the comic but i do remember it was um like it felt like each read was much lighter and there's less events occurring like i feel like they they must have filled it out as a as a show because

yeah like each uh issue i feel like my memory of it was like there's one moment that stands out and then kind of a lot of yeah you know like nothing so um the idea my understanding that the comics are like terrible compared to the show at this point go i have that going back to look at it i don't know what to expect but um the effect that it would use that time and and you know again that full first season feels like it's it was done um yeah pretty tightly uh going back to read it i feel like you would probably catch more flaws but in my memory at the time like 2001 or whatever that was it was just like ooh the novelty of an evil superman even you know like if that gets played out a million times later on but like even back then it was like okay yeah sure let's see how this

kind of how bad does it get oh my god he blew up a plane what you know like it was it still had its charms from just being that premise nowadays the premise is not enough you know yeah that that premise obviously has been overplayed and and done um i i think like the show it just it it does it knows what it is it knows about all of those like um overdone things and and and and it just does it well and it like everything like the the plot development is it keeps being interesting throughout three seasons and and like beyond i don't know if they're gonna do like five or whatever um fourth season has been like confirmed since like the third season was confirmed i think um it it it's just like also i think the the people are saying that the comics um they're definitely

changing up the story from the comics so like if you like the show you could probably go read the comics to have a separate different experience um but um the show is featuring so many like recent event things they're making fun of like you know um who was it that did the imagine like celebrity oh fucking gal gado yeah right right right yeah so so and and like you know the whole um you know state of the united states is definitely being um uh portrayed in a fun uh manner but you know like the character like homelander everybody's that to just be right insert him into modern context go yeah it writes itself yeah it's just like everybody's talking about this show right now so like i don't know how much i can add to it but it's to me it's like

how are you not watching the boys so the i have a i have a genuine real answer for that um the chair i'm sitting in right now is not comfortable enough for me to binge through multiple seasons of the show uh i actually uh one of the things i did this week is i went out to a chair store and i picked out a fucking herman miller same and that's being shipped out to me got one got one got one for punch mom uh which one uh the embody yeah same here yeah i just went out and said she's working at home like do you want a good chair do you want the black one or do you want the the the white and silver one i go what's different and they go the the silver ones eight hundred dollars more and i go is that really the only difference early yeah like okay give me the black one i don't give

a shit so that's going to be here this week and then i'm going to binge the shit out of a bunch of shit boys i'm sitting on like a kitchen chair right now the fact that like season one wrapped and then like you know i heard the i remember two was announced and um the uh the it was absolutely the kind of show that could have gone the other way though i guess it could have been the type of show that drops the ball entirely in the second season by you know um like focusing on i guess like the wrong things with each character and kind of like the fact that i hear that the second season wrapped up and people are still happy with it and now the third and it's a huge thing where people are like yo this fucking show is still really good um that's encouraging and i'm definitely

it's on the short list of things to go back and binge yeah i definitely want to go back and do that more than i want to see what's going on in obi one certainly so oh yeah no no yeah no you can skip that one if you wanted to um i think the general consensus is definitely that the third season is the best one so far so there's that but um an easy way for me to present why i like it or why it's good as it's the only show the only like superhero based storyline that i watch and my wife actually also enjoys watching together with me she'll she'll work through some of the marvel stuff every once in a while but she she doesn't really like it but for some reason this just like works for her so i think it could probably work for anybody who like doesn't necessarily like

any of the superhero stuff that's out nowadays i have the most bizarre relationship with that show right now because um uh but every night before we go to bed page and i just scroll through a bunch of tiktoks and just rot our goddamn brains and just ruin every last piece of attention that we have left um and uh i can't escape the soldier boy cover of that blondie song um where it's just fucking complete nonsense and he's talking about going out and meeting car eating aliens can't don't know who that character is i think it's supposed to be captain america but can't can't fucking escape this goddamn weird 70s blondie cover uh it's not soldier boy it's soldier no it yeah yeah yeah um yeah no the memes are everywhere it's been crazy this season

especially like that's that's um definitely a tell on on how much it picked up for the third season like in terms of popularity so like how it's like mind boggling that that that you guys have even been able to stay away from spoilers from it or you might oh i have not all i know about the third season is every twist i have i have a system in place and it is a i i you know how like the news and tv will have like a delay for like swearing and for anything bad like a five second or 10 second delay or so i have a brain delay and if i come across a spoiler for something especially if i don't have context for what the show is yet just look away i can i can i put the brain delay on and just whatever i don't know and like i can kind of

effectively navigate you know uh uh out of out of yeah kind of ruining something for myself a bit it doesn't perfectly work but it's been a mandatory part of this gig because as someone again i care about trying to have a pretty fresh experience in most cases and i've also been you know uh i've i've i feel like i've had to update my my um i'm not going to try and i can't stop the world from putting that at me so i have to have to regulate it at this level internally so i'll put a little like brain delay on to just be like yeah i don't know whatever scroll past that and then when i pop it in and experience it it's it's still fresh it's fascinating because like you you took that way through that problem whereas i uh i emotionally adapted to it and just hit the realization

of i'm gonna try and avoid uh finding out you know who dies in the fucking boys season three finale for example uh because i don't know that shit um but i have emotionally internalized well if me knowing that just ruined the whole thing then i guess it's garbage and i feel like that's not going to actually ruin the whole thing because it's not with with the only obvious exception being a pure like murder mystery right like if somebody came out and came to me and said wow i can't believe this character was really the murderer the whole time and knives out before i've seen the movie like i'm going to fight you i like and i don't think i don't think that okay it is there is something to be said about like yeah if something lives and dies on its

spoiler then that questions the quality of the thing to begin with i understand that i will say that like sometimes it's not that big of a deal but it just might make um a really cool moment less cool and so when we get to my week i have a i have a bunch of stuff to talk about actually um and i'm gonna have to employ that the the tap dancing shoes to walk around some spoilers for all the things i'm about to talk about you know i will say i will say on on on on that note of spoilers i i completely destroyed my own experience i mentioned it primarily with dark souls three and and elden ring because i wasn't able to play them exactly when they came out and i started watching like people like you stream it and i saw the whole game and then

i never felt like playing it anymore even though like i it's going to be a totally different experience playing it yourself it just like why did i do that the important thing is that you ruined it for yourself after you already bought the game yeah yeah i i always feel and we've sitting on that hard drive that if anyone's playing at a normal pace like you're gonna outpace the episode drops very quickly you know yeah the only time i ever felt that was not true is when i was streaming elden ring because i was streaming elden ring for nine to twelve hours every day until i beat it yeah and i'm like no one's no one that has to work is gonna be able to catch up to this and and that was the decision of no i am a big streamer man and i'm gonna do the i'm gonna be on

the bleeding edge for once god damn it and then i would like peek in on other people's streams and i'm like okay outside of the speed running freaks yeah no i'm out there i'm way way out there no worries for me yeah i was i was watching a guy who who refused to use the horse and and didn't level up for the entire game so so he was going through it slowly what like as a challenge yeah or no no he just he just liked experiencing or exploring the world that way mind you it did use the horse when he went back to areas he'd already been to but like actual progress was always on foot i mean that reminds me i it's a guy who used to do like challenge runs and and what born so like he he he was fine not leveling up and he didn't like

just repeatedly die all the time but like he yeah he he didn't find the the he didn't learn how to level up until like he was all the way to the capital or something okay so man so you just missed that if you want to see the absolute most like infuriating attempts you can imagine uh iron pineapple who makes incredible videos in general but focuses a lot on the soul series made a bunch of like silly like can you beat elden ring under these circumstances and by far the most like infuriating to his own sanity was can you beat it above the max equip load which means you can't use the horse or jump or walk past like that slow walk speed and he's got like long sections of him narrating for a couple minutes

as he shows like the super sped up footage of him like walking to market okay like a if he's editing it so that you don't have to then that's fine no the video the video is 35 minutes long okay okay it's not the whole thing it's just going oh can you here's some highlights from this stupid attempt i mean i got some i remember there's a point where uh like one of the weirdest comments i had ever seen i saw in elden ring was someone going like um woolly rides the horse too much you don't have to ride it everywhere and it's like yeah you do like uh it's built for you to ride it and park it in specific locations to get through this map and in a certain way it's it's the new thing and it's also like like heavily utilized there's map boss fights that are

like expecting you to be on horseback for that fight like what the fuck are you saying um yeah no it's it's extra stupid because ludwig can attest to this because he just said you're playing gta 5 i assume you've also played at least one of the red dead games to some level um elden ring deciding that the horse is magic and the horse just disappears when you don't need it and instantly appears when you do need it need it is telling you no you're gonna fucking ride that horse a lot you're not searching around for a car you're not looking around for a guy to steal his horse it's time to go magic horsey go now i just had a moment where um i got put into a large desert-like area and it's considered an inside dungeon legacy dungeon area so you can't ride

your horse and i'm like fuck me i want my horse now like i'm spoiled on how much i want torrent right away you know as soon as i can see like the distance go like the the you know like something in the horizon is far enough away and i have to do it on foot i'm like this is a goddamn slog i miss the horse immediately yeah yeah that's one of my favorite things about um playing ghost of tsushima on the ps5 because that game has a lot of um fast travel points yeah and on the ps5 like there's literally no loading time yeah like whenever yeah i'm just gonna go over there and like sometimes i'll in my head be like i i should probably actually travel there and see the scenery it's like i've played this game before i'm just gonna yep all over yeah it reminds me

of like getting the ps5 originally and and being like oh the big technical thing it's not hd graphics and it's not you know 3d stereo sound which nobody has a tv that supports and it's not 3d it's not 3d which again nobody's tv supports it's okay it loads really fast how big of a deal could this wow it makes a big deal it's a huge fucking deal um when i was playing spider man and uh i did i did fast travel on like yeah the ps5 version and mazmorales and it just brought me to the location and i was like oh i missed the little cutscene where he's in the subway kind of just playing on his phone and then in the options they're like oh yeah you can go turn those back on i will say though throughout my two playthroughs of of of spider man ps4 and ps5 no i never played

it on the ps5 i only fast traveled the one time the game forces you to that is the one game where i'm like just i just enjoy the swinging too much i uh never use the fast start i think it's kind of you have to go to special place you have to go to the actual subway to fast travel i just never used it i think i think i fast traveled maybe a dozen times over both games because i would rather just swing the way there the swinging is great it's the best um i just again i like those little those little fun subway interaction moments of you in the costume and people are just like yep hey spidey anyway which are three i guess i miss our fast travel i could think of where you must go to a fast travel spot in order to fast travel to a different fast travel spot that's not fast

travel at all that's the opposite of well you're obviously leaving out red dead two here because i i don't remember what that was red dead two you either have to be in town and there is like a horse carriage and it might not be there and it'll only take you to and you can only read the places as like the names of towns where you're going so you have to remember exactly where you're going and there are only like seven different spots you can go to or you have to be in your camp and use like a map that you need to upgrade your camp to like the almost the last level to be able to use that map to travel somewhere let me ask you a question because especially because you're talking about how you're you're more of a mainstream games consumer and you're

you're closer to like joe consumer right yeah yeah yeah red dead red dead two i kept like almost having fun and every time i was about to have fun i felt like the game went no no no no fun stop it here's something that will slow you down and feel like shit for five minutes that that is the general consensus isn't it no i i i started red dead when he came out and it became cumbersome and then i had a few friends keep just kept complaining about it to me and i was like okay i guess i don't like it and and uh spider man came out so i played spider man instead because that's a game game um and then i played red dead again and actually made it to the end at the end of last year i think and and i had that experience of you know like

going online to find out where shit is so i can actually move forward with the story and like actually have a good horse whatnot and and um what kept me going in the end is i guess the the the weird like quirky uh writing that you get in like your gta's and and and red dead um so the story was definitely that but then i knew that like well spoiler like your main character dies at some point but and i felt like i was getting close to that so i stopped playing because i didn't want him to die so um i think that's that's what happened i think um that you have now freed me because i didn't drop that spoiler um um but uh one of the one of my personal things with red dead is that they decide that the best way to make you feel the narrative weight of that i thought to make the

game start to play shittier and shittier and shittier like actively make the game didn't do it that's okay like they actively make the game play worse and worse and worse and like the already slow cumbersome mechanics become extra slow and extra cumbersome for the narrative weight and it's like i'm already not enjoying playing it um so yeah you kind of have to uh just just deal with it i can't like the one thing that i just cannot deal with is that you have to actually cock your shotgun every time you you want to shoot it so it's two button pushes for every shot and it just feels terrible thank you for telling me to shoot pistols all the time exclusively or rifles because i hated that as well uh now i'll have you know that um of all the games that uh you've pat that you've

you've uh talked shit on over the years uh some of them have a unique reaction with the people and this is one of those ones where uh i've gotten uh direct messages uh from folks who are imploring me to not listen to you specifically about this and that it's it's it's better than you're saying don't don't get poisoned by his words don't listen to me don't listen to Ludwig don't listen to a youtuber named nakey jakey who put out a fantastic video about how rock stars game design is outdated yeah uh i've i've listened to i've gotten the message your friends who stop playing don't listen to uh the driver in baltimore that says they play gta 5 online instead of red dead because the cars are cooler don't listen to those people well so to be honest the the i have a

just like with any of these like again these mainstream games we're discussing like i have a curiosity about them they're they're discussed enough that i wouldn't mind scratching that itch at some point so i'm i'm fine to like if you're if you're thinking to yourself like oh woolly you are never gonna play it it's like you never know my my list has included a bunch of stuff and played halo last year i'm going to catch up on a lot of things you never know you know um but yeah there's this one has brought out the folks that are like hey don't let him poison you you know so uh i'm taking that into i mean all that being said i still and i still played those games because i enjoyed playing yeah in the end i i i don't have to play them like there's there's no room for

nuance here living it's gotta be it's gotta be because i'm just sitting here going yeah you know what don't listen to any of those people listen to me the person who's replaying which are one right now okay yeah don't maybe not even play which are one once let alone replay it so um okay i uh taking a look here um i guess i think yeah we should probably move into next weeks and such looking at the uh the things we're gonna cover there's some stuff going on um there's i i'm cat sitting hello hello try to i i can hear you hello yeah try to have the cats not oh no i was saying hello to the cat yeah oh not you well the cats are stupid they don't understand well what a great cat what a great time to talk about cats did either of you guys play

stray did not so i was i was gonna get it and play it play it over the weekend so i could actually talk about the game that i played recently um did not get it to it though to to that i hear that that is a cat simulator uh it is uh so so bluntly it's it's a uh like six hour prestige uh fancy narrative experience with puzzle elements and some platforming and it's like a very guided like visually beautiful kind of like it reminds me of like uh inside in three dimensions but with the cat okay yeah okay but the biggest thing is that the people who made stray um i bet every single person at that studio has a cat on their desk while they are making the cat game because it is madly madly in love with cats being little weirdos there are prompts on everything

that do nothing other than force your cat to knock paint cans off of ledges and trash people's shit and fuck their desk up and and hit balls and like there's a whole mechanic for fucking up people's carpets untitled cat game pretty much okay um and um like there's a cute little moment where the cat has to wear a backpack so it can do mechanics and puzzles and for like a full couple of minutes after putting the little cat backpack on you have a hyper accurate uh series of animation changes where cats hate wearing clothes they fucking hate it so the cat is like all stretched out and awkward and just hate it it's great that game's great it's about cats i totally could ah man i should have played it this weekend well you could you

it's been on my list you could fucking blow through that in like a one and a half sittings like it is it is definitely like i'm i'm getting like all the memories and all the secret items and all that shit and i got over 50 through in like three hours so here's a question if this were to be logged on uh the the that twitter the twitter account can you pet the cat in straight so you are the cat you are the cat right right yeah but but there is a dedicated uh rub up against robots and then they get little hearts on their tv screens because they love you button okay uh with with almost all robots that are stationary you can hit triangle to like rub up against them and a bunch of them pet you and most of them are like yay oh a kitty cat okay so you

could force the pet okay yeah that counts yeah that counts okay it absolutely counts yeah no that okay um there's even fancy little achievements for like jumping into like their dinners and board games and just fucking their their bullshit up by jumping straight onto them it's got a dedicated meow button for fuck's sake it's like circle to meow circle to meow yeah which it's like the second prompt in the game x to jump circle to meow now do you ever use meows to do anything besides get humans attention no okay no there are no humans right no no humans oh okay it is it is uh it is cat automata okay it is it is like shockingly similar to near automata but you are a cat

and cats are cute now is it true that cats only meow at people and not at each other and or other yeah pretty much right okay they they do weird uh chittering at birds sometimes depending on the cat no but i heard meowing is a thing that's like meant to get human reactions it's it's it's human baby mimicry right yeah yeah exactly okay interesting i've heard that i'm i'm not 100% sure it's it's fine to just take that at face value and believe it but like i've definitely heard that it's it's a common yeah it's a thing uh rumor or you know old wives tale i don't know what you know it's it's very similar to how human children learn a lot through triadic gaze which is your eyesight and their eyesight hit a third point and they can triangulate and discover what they're looking at

and dogs are capable of triadic gaze whereas cats are not and it's surmised that the reason dogs can learn triadic gaze and dogs understand the human method of pointing as an evolutionary response to dealing with us all the time right okay cats the cats may maybe they understand just don't give a shit that's that's on it that's the that's the i've i've been trying to put that at the top of the list of all of the theories is just like no they get it they just don't give a fuck dude no no no hold on hold on this fat dog here he gets it he understands every single thing i've ever said to him in my entire life because i'll look at him and i go don't eat that and he tries to get up on the table but then if i reach towards my pocket suddenly he runs over to me and

sits and then lies down and then puts his chin on the floor and then tries to give paw he knows what's going on he chooses to ignore cat nothing nothing just staring off into the ether no thoughts not even like instinctual like hunt happiness warm thoughts just like flesh automaton but they're cute and they are soft when you pet them i would imagine a game would design itself to have like like knocking something off of a table should heal you it should be a massive incentive because it feels like well there's no it's the reward it's just you're just no no because it doesn't matter to the cats you know like it's it's just whatever they they're not getting anything out of it really why should you maybe it's maybe it's just chaos but i just like like if you

can start shit in that game and and for no reason stop your adventure to go ruin someone's table then yeah that's mission accomplished that's that's that's that's that's cat simulator but yeah no it is stellar and it is uh genuinely a more visually impressive more interesting cyberpunk setting than cyberpunk oh no which is i you know in the context of like me playing witcher like one two three cyberpunk is like an incredible four act studio story because it's like we don't know how to make video games maybe we might learn one day and then we made a really good video game and then straight back to we no longer know how to make video games i have a feeling that's not the first time nor will it be the last time that sentence is uttered where yeah fair enough is more

cyberpunk than cyberpunk is is yeah but like the fact that they went for such a broad genre name means you can say that like any game that has that aesthetic that nails it you can go wow it's actually better than the game named after the genre oh yeah it's too bad that game never came out it is one day i was looking forward to it so maybe which are one stray what else is going on i got horribly gaslit by uh fucking isomium files in what might be the first time i've ever played a game that is explicitly out to gaslight you and make you feel like you're losing your damn mind in which two characters are having an argument about what the name of the island the statue of liberty is on either if you want to hazard a guess um elis island okay so if you say elis island

or liberty island uh the character will admonish you for uh it's obviously elis island dumbass and then your robot companion will look it up on the internet and go yeah it's elis island that's a commonly known fact duh except it's not the actual answer is liberty island and the game is actively gaslighting you and trying to make you feel nuts by explicitly lying to you even with a fake map elis island is where you land as an immigrant liberty island yes where the statue is like two hundred feet over yeah but get this so in in in like the fifties elis island was incorporated into what's called the the uh statue of liberty national island monument which means they're now both part of the liberty monument uh right but you know the the game is just actively horribly

gaslighting you and then i turn around and ask page and page goes it's elis island duh and then my chat starts telling me how stupid i am for thinking that it's liberty island that it's obviously elis island and my only memory of this stupid statue is not from history class or even from television it's from me playing the first level of deus x one and them saying that is liberty island because the statue of liberty is there no and and your character is also gaslit and confused i'm just getting the answer correctly osmosis over the years and like the beginning of godfather two and you know a million other things so yeah that game's great it constantly fucks with your perception of what's real in the real world sorry what if you just answered elis

island the first time they would they would they would give you like oh congrats i see i told you it was elis island everybody knows it's elis island and then but then you would bring this story up later with a friend of yours and cause the argument that is being represented in front of you because the whole premise is that two friends are having an argument about what island it is and it has escalated to the point where they will not speak to each other and they call you in as the as the solution okay and i'm like the game is is aiming to create this argument in the player with someone else in their life at an undetermined future date and then in game and then in game they look it up on the internet and then lie to you and then it says it says baron stain bears yes yes okay and

because it's uchi koshi we're gonna talk about the mandela effect later because characters in uchi koshi games have to talk about the fact what if it was all a simulation have you heard of philadelphia experiment if it has the word effect after it it's coming yeah okay and it's like it might be the most like if you get caught in it in the the nightmare and like you're screaming at people because you don't know what goddamn island the thing is on anymore the end result is that you can't just trust what people tell you because they might be wrong and you can't just trust what you read on the internet which i'm pretty sure is one of the games core themes so fucking good job you made me feel it and made me think i was losing my mind excellent excellent prank writer

feels good when i gave him ice to you yeah and then i went to the store and picked out a fancy chair and i don't know when the chair is going to show up because i don't have a tracking number so i'm waiting for my chair every day and that that's what's going on with pat if you want us if you want to tune into my show and maybe one day i'll have a better chair you're on a twitch.tv slash pat stares at uh most of the week except for this tuesday i'm not streaming this tuesday instead you should go watch woolly vs this tuesday uh because i peeked in on his stream the other so i made a bold prediction he's gonna beat elton ring on august 23rd and then i go into his fucking stream and he's at the 99 percent mark for the game and i didn't know that when i was

making that prediction he was already in the game's final area it was pretty funny he just sat there smug august 28 apparently well uh so yeah go check out woolly's stream on tuesday i'm gonna be watching it and shit posting in the chat as well okay yeah i do i do i feel like i'm i'm there so that's that's that's exciting um yeah i gotta say i gotta say congrats getting to the final boss arena and going okay guys that's it for today that's a power move that's a power move that's real good that's excellent yeah yeah yeah no it was it was fun because i saw solidus in the chat just getting super hyped like oh he's gonna he's gonna count it down he's gonna stop right there reggie loves it too uh he's reggie's a huge fan like he's like off off camera he's like he's like

yeah we can we can you know we can right here right here do a tool um anyway yeah that that that we'll see how i mean it actually works best for your your your possible schedule because like what if the final boss is really hard well it's not just that but it's also like it's also like i have to consider like you know when my wife's going to bed or whatever like how long am i gonna like i it's it's the thing but elden ring though man whatever wife yeah so that's the bit it's like if you have like a half an hour left in your in the recording schedule time but then like it's like oh the next mission is gonna be uh an hour and a half you're like should i even start or it's like yeah let's just wrap you know uh what now but um i was gonna say with your with the chair

that's arriving um be sure to uh get your phone out because you're it's the it's the chair that requires youtube instructions for the multiple knobs and features that help your back uh it takes like luckily a couple steps to set it up luckily the wife already has had an embody for months and months and months this is true so the wife can be the youtube video this is true in fact it was thanks to her recommendation that i'm even uh getting these things but you should still do it so that you know all the things because it's gonna be custom for you and uh the one that uh the one that punch mom got like when i sit on it i can already see the curvature being like not my body and i'm like ooh so already a little off so this is where i felt really stupid because i sat

and paid just chair when she got it and she's had it set up and i'm like i can't believe you paid like two grand for this chair this chair feels like shit yeah and i and i'm like i hate it and then i go to this the chair store yeah and they're like well we we recommend you sit into this chair and she the lady twists a knob here and pulls it and like wow this feels really good which one's this and she's like well it's the embody and then i'm like well shit it's it's now all that shit i talked is gonna come back on me it's grooved for your back and ass you know like yeah because you know so really page is spine crumbling into complete dust was really good for everyone you're you got a fancy chair i'm getting a fancy chair look a little thing you should get a few i mean you look like

you're sitting in a better chair actually no that's a that's a hermit miller it's a urgal human oh well it's fancy looking is it good on your butt it's well it works for what i do um i actually wish i could easily take these arm wrists off so i could play the guitar easier but you know but also it works at this point you're probably comfortable kneeling for ungodly amounts of time right second way away like like like no like you can as in as in in japan there are places where you have no dude dude no i don't do that i don't you never okay okay okay okay thank you like i i i tried for a while to kind of get my legs used to it but like no i'm not built that way no that's something you got to learn as a baby so your legs grow a certain way right or something

yeah i i guess okay it's like we used to go to like a shrine for new year's thing with with the company before and like they'll bless the company whatnot oh yeah and like people around you would be actually doing seiza as it's called um but like i'll sit on my ass i don't give a shit okay because i know like some of the like like some izakayas and stuff they'll have like the little fake kneel under the table but then it actually has the room for you to sit properly and you're just positioned in a way that looks like you're you're doing the kneel but if you ever go to like a really traditional location or something where they're just like no it's legitimately you gotta go go go under the kotatsu or whatever um fuck your back fuck your legs you know deal with it and

i managed by uh using my friend had this thing that like it looks like a chair except the legs are cut off and it just sits on the ground and i'm like yeah that saved me you know in a couple places in japan because i i just can't pretend i can fucking do this and not die you know well just don't do it you're not from there they understand you fuck if you want the back back support right that's that's the thing with the um floor chair that you're talking about um you want the back support even if you're not sitting on your knees you know um so but you can you can stay away from it unless you're like here for traveling and somebody just takes you to a certain place um like me living here i i can just not go to those places yeah pretty much i mean yeah

it's it's but i'm like anyway as a humongous giant fat man it is also even if i'm just sitting on the floor regularly like there's a there's a time limit before that just gets uncomfortable too you know so any any venue that it's never comfortable i don't it's like what would you i don't want to hear from you woolly about comfort level and sitting you know what my favorite part of the embody chair that i'm gonna get is i'm finally for the first time for the first time working in this thing ever going to be sitting in a way that my feet touch the ground there we go okay at my old place at at your place at everybody else's house at the office at the old couch in the basement and here my feet don't touch the ground ever

and then i sat in the chair my feet touch the ground and like oh is this what it's like to sit like a human being just the horror of sitting next to you on an on a bus and realizing that your shoulders are at the exact same length and height as mine it's all just it's everything going below that just doesn't continue you know for it's pretty weird god right but any anyone who's seen me and woolly go somewhere and stand next to each other and then sit down it's legitimately night marriage how you tower above me and then we sit down and suddenly become the same height which means which means that it's all it's all leg your legs are maybe a foot longer than my legs uh all right all right well i hate it um okay moving moving right along okay so a couple things

yes and i'm gonna try to keep these as brief as possible as well killed fitting men yeah um cotton hill uh so what it looks like i started reading chainsaw man last week i got about oh yeah i got a couple chapters in and i was like oh this is interesting and you know um you know like i said does what it says on the tin i decided to sit down and read a couple more so you know pretty much like one night after that finished off an elder ring session uh grabbed the ipad started flipping through and uh you know got up to get some dinner and went back and flipped through and then noticed that as i was flipping i hit something that said end of chapters up to date part two chapter two come back next week for chapter three

and i was like oh shit i just read all of it in one night and it was insanely easy and fast to do i did not realize yeah i've it's not one piece it is not one piece so i'm fucking caught up and that chainsaw man and uh it also is like the type of thing that was compelling enough that i was like oh i'm just gonna keep going let's get like get another volume uh wow um that's yeah that it's the opposite feeling of like like like a jojo part for example where like you're going through it and you're like okay we're in for the long haul and it's great but you know that this is gonna be your day you know um okay in so at the first part is just just ended in march or something just ended or so that's 11 11 books yeah 99 chapters or so

and then there's now part two is beginning and there are about two chapters in um 99 chapters that's still quite a bit quite a bit that you read it's it is quite a bit but fortunately like it's the type of book where again dialogue is minimum like action and like you know spreads are like they're doing their thing they're taking up their real estate and even when dialogue is happening it's very minimal it's very simple this is a really like uh it's a very visual story and um yeah and it's also flipped for trying to keep things kind of um it picks a theme and it sticks with it and it just it's like we're not going to get too fussy or mussy about it you know where this is going to be the whole time uh i don't know if you've seen any or heard anything

about uh chainsaw man uh lidvik so i've i've um i remember when it first came out and and seeing it just and being like well that's the thing um like the over-the-top character look and everything and and i never got to reading it but um figured i'll watch the anime when it comes out a friend is writing the music for it too so um definitely going to check that out it's it's like been on my radar basically yeah i think um i feel as if like the creator might have drawn something with an aesthetic that was like what if a big monster wore a suit with a tie and had that tie kind of flailing in the wind and then the head and arms were just big monster things happening and uh kind of went and took that almost graffiti like piece of art and then went let's turn this

into a thing you know um kind of similar to when you see like uh like the helmet and tie and guns and pub g or so right but um that aesthetic with the tie thing comes back a good bit you get you get to see like people with powers and and and suits it's pretty cool i enjoy that aesthetic um this fucking thing they tell you uh right away they tell you this is a world that is pretty fucked up the character is everyone's fucked up everyone's crazy everything's kind of crazy and it's uh and like demons existing and people dying is just a fact of life so you get this happens man you get used to that pacing really early and like it trains you to kind of like stomach these kind of fucked up things right off the bat because then it just goes all in on them

and uh like spikes it with some unbelievably sick action scenes and there's a number of like it's the kind of thing we're looking at it now i'm like i know exactly why i want to see this animated there is two fights that are like the peak of uh this first part entirely that are hopefully going to be like the most brilliantly animated things about it um and it's it's i'm i'm it's a little bit like uh to fucking go back to the the the uh the the the mid aughts the early aughts there it's a bit like knowing uh rock lee versus gara and naruto is going to happen and get animated eventually and hoping that it's going to live up to that moment um which i imagine it will because fucking unbelievable fights in this thing super cool with the choreography and the action

um that stands out definitely and then uh the fact that like the pencil work in the manga is also uh it shows through on the ink it's it's it's they ink over incomplete pencil at certain moments and it adds a rawness that they're going for as well that i really like um so that's very strong characters uh almost universally like i said fucked up insane uh i feel like uh they introduce you to you know the the the main character and then the extended cast as you would in anything that would be in shonen jump but like i don't know if anything in shonen jump has been as bloody and as gory as this to date or if this is the most extreme with it with a name like chainsaw man you probably shouldn't expect it not to get bloody and gory but um you get introduced

to characters and it also again fully trains you to expect those characters to maybe or maybe not make it you know um so there's almost a rotating amount of like hey some new person showed oh there they go what was his power okay that's a cool idea uh you know like it it constantly just has this revolving door but like life is short and cheap in in chainsaw man world um now what's the phrase short uh short nasty and brutish yeah yeah uh definitely and uh you know and in many cases almost played for comedic effect depending on like what they're trying to punctuate um but like your your whole thing where they promise you that these hey warning multiple people have the parts where the the book stops and says hey warning people are insane everyone in this part

in this section in this thing everyone's crazy you know and uh you kind of go like yeah yeah i know i know i know and then you get to like the the build up the finale the big thing and again no spoilers but um you're forced to stop and confront that and go i knew it was in i knew it was going to be crazy but this is still massively uncomfortable and kind of horrifying in the direction it goes but it's not out of theme it's just it's the thing they promised you and then they deliver on it and you're left feeling massively uncomfortable but you're like i guess i only have myself to blame for like expecting it to be less than this you know uh that's the best way i guess i can put it um they uh yeah they kind of have these characters that are set up where you get introduced to like

this kind of serious uh almost rival like revenge driven uh sword using special eye kind of uh it's not a sasuke you know like it's like oh is that it no it's not you know and then you have like um like another girl who's uh like cutesy like klutzy but and possessed by a demon and does these weird things and acts really silly but like is she gonna know she's not played for gag she's also this insane like horrible horrible demon person that is not just about it's not just about the gag it's it's also like um no this is a this is truly a demon it's not a human being they're not gonna just uh keep it like at the sim at the simple uh surface level expectation of what you get out of a character that uh would otherwise be played for you know uh uh gags or

whatever um and then there's a main like entity character that is just like the charisma the charismatic like a center of like a lot of what that that's the story is is about and um yeah they just they do a really good job portraying um this person as like these people that you're like you're rooting for while also realizing how awful they are you know you kind of have that sort of dual feeling about a lot of the the characters you see and what's going on um fucking cool though just super cool and um goes into uh goes into some action that like i i called up uh our our friend um shmup godpat right because he's also he's into uh like common writer and toku satsu stuff and i kind of went like hey check out chainsaw man it does the stuff you know it it does some

of that cool stuff as well uh unexpectedly what's fascinating to me is that because i know shmup god pat if you had looked at me and said pat it does the stuff i may not have understood what you meant but because you're telling me the story in the context of talking to shmup godpat and you're telling him what the stuff is i now know exactly what you're talking about it does it does quote unquote the stuff uh so um yeah it's it's just a really awesome simple read pick up and go journey and uh i'm i'm gonna recommend it while uh putting the asterisk down which is like uh it's it gets fucked up it gets really fucked up everyone's traumatized so man everyone's horribly abused everyone's horribly abusing bad things are happening left and right it's um and then and it ends uh

you know ends on a bang and then it starts acts too uh which is an interesting um thing because yeah i guess uh they're gonna i like that they decided to cap off a part and you know whatever that not i'm not gonna talk about anthologizing things but there was nothing else to be said at this point and so now we're gonna perhaps move forward and see what else is gonna go on in this world you know and so um i'm gonna keep reading that up until the animation drops but uh chainsaw man fucking do it if you've got uh an evening jump on that and the jump app was um yeah again pretty easy to get through and and just one thing i had a heads up about was there was one chapter that was removed i think it was chapter 59 go read that elsewhere because it was removed

for censorship purposes on on shonen jump um again this thing is doesn't strike me i wouldn't expect it to be a shonen jump uh uh you know in the in i don't know i my images of you know what fucking dragon ball one piece and and and Naruto are are much squeakier clean than what chainsaw man does so um yeah in my history of watching one piece the worst thing i ever saw was man luffy hit that guy really hard and he had a big cartoon bump on his head and he had some teeth blacked out oh boy beat him up real bad yeah no uh chainsaw man uh jumped at you and then the things that happen when a chainsaw hits a person happened to you or let's draw that for so what you're so what you're saying is that chainsaw man being in shonen jump is similar to oh boy i sure hope i can

want to read my new shonen manga like one piece and dragon ball i wonder what's gonna happen and then you turn the page onto something that would look more appropriate in say the the berserk chapter yeah no if they ever made like so there was the if they ever made a battle stadium donc where because like there's battle stadium dragon ball one piece Naruto is like an old fighting game if they made dragon ball one piece Naruto chainsaw man it would be like luffy Goku Naruto oh just blood streaming horror death you know uh uh just like like i mean like there's there's moments where like it's like hey so while this event in the story is occurring um let's just list the names of the collateral damage to the thing that you're looking at over the panels

type shit and you're like oh oh oh oh fuck okay yeah this is but you again you've already kind of been desensitized to the horror but it's still finding ways to make it worse you know um anyways definitely sounds like a pleasant read cool definitely stands out stands out uh uh from from my expectations there so chainsaw man yes fucking yes awesome um i've had some like middling reviews um on it from from people so like cool that something that i was originally excited to check out this is being enjoyed hearing about i think i think um there and i'm not sure but if i had to guess i would guess their main criticisms would be about the finale of the first part and the way they decide to play that and i i'm very i am made uncomfortable by that finale

and i'm hoping that like it will make sense with added time you know i'm but i may like like the things that i could see people complaining about are the finale and i agree that i'm like yeah that's massively uncomfortable um part two might give us some more context for what's up but ultimately if you don't get any you can kind of just go well they they they said itself it's fucked up so when it got fucked up that's what was on the tin um all right so leaving that alone awesome uh the other thing i did uh was i went and i watched uh nope the latest jordan peel film god damn it i've heard good shit about that god damn it why are you so mad bro i'm because in japan movies come out like six months after in the world okay okay well don't

worry i'm not gonna i mean no no no i yeah no i'm i'm excited to hear yeah i mean i'm not gonna the marketing deliberately is trying to dodge giving you information about this movie and i'm going to stick in line with the marketing i i know only the most barest of the premise which is which is what they want you to know going into it so that's pretty good what i will say is um putting it uh in i i think it's what i like is that you're right there pet all right i'm gonna choke on water oh no you know the new herman miller and body also has a nice little curve for self heimlich if ever needed you can lean right over that so it's good to go um

sometimes i just choke on nothing you ever choke on nothing no but i've seen you choke on nothing many times what how come only me i don't i don't know i don't know okay um anyways so uh i don't know if um have you seen um peels other movies uh get out uh or us us i've seen them i have not okay uh you haven't okay well i've told you about them um get the fuck out of here yeah i i've told you about them uh get out's great it's uh you know like again racial anxiety horror is the the best way to describe that and um us uh similar but then a little more uh zoomed out and i will say that like uh i loved get out us i liked as well but i feel like parts of what makes these movies strong is kind of like knowing what they're referencing

knowing what they're going for you know uh get out in particular has a really really it has a really great way of like reaching in and kind of like if you've had awkward uh awkward racial experiences with people like if you're you know uh this movie knows it targets those things and goes like okay what if we took that to 11 and then 12 um the boondocks also is a fucking masterwork at like nailing that awkwardness the opening scene of the first episode with the garden party where riley is complimented for speaking so well uh is like state comes to mind you know um yeah it's really great at that and then of course i'm fucking i'm gonna enjoy seeing that depicted um but i can't believe how intensely boondocks nailed that because you mentioning the

boondocks garden party set off a series of like brain signals that have me wondering if we have any cheese in the fridge right now sure uh i mean i yeah i haven't seen the boondocks um like it's it's just um it basically just like yeah like bunch of bunch of awkward i know what it's awkward awkward people uh uh being awkward around black people and just uh how how to deal with that or not for that matter um in in in this case the titular get out says get get the fuck get out get the fuck out of there uh so that so that's great us um i feel like parts of us didn't land with me because there's a big aspect to it that requires you to understand something very american like uh you know like i feel like a big part of the um the where that movie goes and it's like

premise is like there's a there's a like some stuff that happened in in the 80s in america that i'm like i'm canadian i have no idea what those things are but if you explain it okay cool i'm gonna follow along but as a result of like leaning heavily onto that it didn't land as hard um but yeah i was a bit lukewarm on this myself yeah um and of course yes it's called us so that is not lost uh in its in its oh like the america i get it but uh nope i can say is um fantastic in that it uh it's it continues the flavor of like what's great about peel movies but it also is him avoiding getting amnites shamaland do you know what i mean like amnites shamala making a movie that looks like signs but isn't signs or even sixth sense where like you know he was put on

the map for the twist and then the twist became the punchline and now it's self parity right and i feel like uh nope is a graceful sidestep of what would be become what would become oh the peel punchline you know um by going into just something that is uh yeah just more yeah a more generalized unknowable horror type of weight are you saying that the twist to this movie is not racism it's not there is racism and it does exist in components and establishing yeah of course setup but uh it is not in fact the main thing um because get out was even even not having seen it i'm fully aware that the twist wasn't racism lower case you thought it was gonna be racism with the capital but it in fact was racism in all capitals which is its own super twist uh

yeah it is i mean and for that reason like it's gonna be hard to top because the journey through get out to like to the to the end credits is one of like i'll i never would have expected that and i don't think i can get that recreated um and nor should i nor should it so thankfully this is not trying to do that but i do really enjoy that like uh yeah this is just about uh the type of thing that i find legitimately scary in the unknown the unknowable horror not necessarily the um the out and out understandable like evil man with the with the knife coming to get you but uh the mystery of the amigara fault you know right that that sinkhole that opened up in the ground that horrible that horrible shit that's like what the fuck is wow what is in there

what is that right that's what gets me and um as a result i feel you know with horror movies with survival horror with a lot of that in general it really is mostly misses for me occasional hits and um you know i've talked too much about how i love like of course alien and the way it plays with not seeing the fucking thing you know um obviously jaws is is incredible at that too um but yeah in this case it it's similar in it it's that un that unknown weird shit is played well here so i'm gonna i'm gonna jump in here uh and you describe that your experience with horror was it has a lot of misses um as somebody who absolutely adores the horror genre in uh in games and film let me tell you right now the reason why there are so many

misses for you is that horror fucking sucks on the average horror movies and horror games on average are kind of terrible it's really hard it's really really hard to make a good one it's par for the course so yeah most of it's trash like think of how many fucking halloween movies there are are any of them good i'm gonna go with maybe i haven't seen any maybe some of them are good i mean yeah i feel like there's there's like a guaranteed quantity of people who are gonna like watch horror movies anyways and they're usually sort of cheap to make so um yeah the the the the the criteria is as long as you can get a few scares in there it's a movie right that's why i was saying last week about madison the the bar is did i go oh i'm throwing my popcorn up at

any point most people the answer is yes that means good horror movies scary oh yeah if you like a jump scare is just the most like it it a cheap jump scare will actively annoy me and make me enjoy it less you know yeah yeah i feel that it's it's isn't the same with comedy movies too yeah comedy is hard they're really good coming most of it's trash i mean it's been a while so people have it's been a while so low threshold for comedy yeah and then again i feel like you know um well i mean movies as a whole as an industry is also like like taking a very weird hit and and i don't know if comedy i don't know if like the comedy movie will return it might but like you know it kind of feels like it was the hangover and sequels for a while there um

but yeah something like a fucking you know i don't know like an anchor man or so like i don't know if we're gonna see any of those any type soon you know what i don't know we we have we have someone of an expert on the show today in Ludwig because you you are surrounded by instruments right now so i'm gonna say that you can be the show's expert on music and sound in general um i think i could speak fairly conclusively about a lot of games and of course the three of us we could talk about movies um i'm just gonna go ahead and say almost everything just sucks just like all of it like if you were to listen to 100 random songs most of them would be fucking terrible none of this matters nothing matters

um i i think i think there's gems out there but like it's just gonna be a bit harder to find as time goes on um and in some cases it'll come from you know like smaller studio smaller budget smaller ideas that um get that shit together i was talking about how much i loved everything everywhere all at once you know um that's a great example of like yeah it's like an 824 film i want to say where you can sample of a critic's darling and you can see great example of another movie that we still don't know when it's coming out in japan thank you very much um or maybe they announced it but it's still not out uh but yeah it's it's it's gonna come from you know um less established sources i think you know uh going forward but uh all that to say that nope is

is is um yeah it's really it's really solid and um there's a lot of fun i guess like reference dissecting going on in in in that sense like appeal is kind of like a tarantino in how he's like putting a bunch of overt and then also really like subdued like did you catch that fucking reference to like this particular thing or this particular scene this movie whatever it was and in some in some cases it's like oh there's a little shot here that resembles like um you know the kids hiding from the velociraptors in uh dressy park you know and then all but at the same time here's a dude wearing a hoodie that says the fucking scorpion king on it you know so like it's it's it's going all over with the with the references and such um do you do you think there's any

possibility that in the next peel movie we can get a reservoir dogs style diner scene in which multiple characters are sitting around discussing how underrated in living color was i don't imagine that'll happen i don't see it because that's what that's that's what i want i don't see that happening nor do i see a 40 second zoom in on feet um however uh who knows because i think with this yeah peel is kind of going like okay i can i'm i'm don't don't don't box me in too much you know i can do some other stuff and um it also is the type of like i said it's the type of horror that uh worked for me i was actively afraid of the thing while i was watching the story and um i feel like i almost when i when i was walking out and talking to punch mom

about it i was like yeah uh there's so few things that give me that feeling uh you know that uh which of the titular like nope don't want to know nothing to do with that get that shit away from me that exact like reaction um yeah this is really does a really good job with that as well so i would recommend it and um no you don't have to go back and see the trilogy to actually appreciate any of this but um it is a uh it is yeah just a you know it's a fun go to the restaurant and go to the diner after the movie and talk about all the shit because there's a lot going on did you catch this did you catch that and it's going to be big for rewatching as well definitely um so fucking peel with the amazing imdb uh yeah get out us and and and nope that's a

solid three and obviously fucking key and peel show and then like fargo and like that's good that's that's that's a quality uh list of things to work on and then directorial uh debut as well not that uh Ludwigs is anything to shake a stick at sir uh you gotta you gotta you gotta cool list of shit you've worked on yourself starting with pt uh starts with pt does it as well as oh yeah well it's funny you were mentioning like the thing you how the dread of nope that's like one of the few things i can really point to with with pt and it was one of the concepts kind of like being afraid of finding out what you're afraid of yeah like like there's that one line when you're just walking and it's like look behind you look behind you and it's like no fucking dirty

yeah no going through that demo like i'm like okay that got me a lot of these horror games don't pt fucking got me uh yeah uh so to be honest i i i never really played through the game i mostly had it on my ps4 and sat around looking at people playing it when they came over for whatever yeah and just made them all get to like the first big scare and and and see how they react to it and i'd be as scared as them every time yeah i know it's coming i know it's coming my history with that game is somewhat embarrassing as a professional in this field as that as a person who got to the first big stare scare gave up my then girlfriend now wife calling me a pussy and crushing it and having the time of her life and like getting scared and going ha ha

like one second afterwards and me just like in active terror on the other side of the couch uh and and not that's that wasn't even the the fucking like vr experience right it was just a regular one yeah yeah and i'm like can i put the lights on she's like no no scarier this way i'm like yeah no exactly shit your pants mission accomplished yep trophy unlocked um i did not shit my pants well someone shit their pants stop talking in the chat you're right there someone shit their pants this week and we're going to talk about that in in in a moment um but uh sorry are you going to say a little bit very excited about no i'm just very excited about hearing whoever shot their pants i don't know what you're talking about

did you shit your pants not me not me all right um someone shot their pants and now triple h has to take over oh that's true that's true that did happen in a moment though uh so yeah nope is great uh i really liked it as well um despite what uh what influencers might be saying about it um okay i also sat down and uh i watched a film called bell any of you guys seen seen seen bell you heard of that heard of it i heard of it uh yesterday when you told me that i should watch it before the podcast and then i didn't have time to okay that's that's that's where i heard of it well um i watched it and that was an anime and uh it turned out that actually it's on it's so it's on netflix and it's on like amazon prime

and such but uh if you're in canada go fuck yourself of course uh but thankfully it was available for rent on youtube so you know uh i rented it on youtube and i did watch and uh that is a beautiful animated film that is a very pretty anime uh that was uh quite nice and pleasant and enjoyable um i i hear that you notice you're spending some time uh praising its visuals are you doing that because it sounded like shit so the the the the the colorful brilliance of the intro sequence it was almost like paprika in in in you know satoshi khan's brilliance of the color composition i was uh really blown away by that especially when the the whale you know and the just the the depiction of the digital world it

was a triumph that 3d anime is actually coming some it's it's coming it's good yeah good stuff um yeah so it's about music you know how about that voice acting though oh the marketing is amazing like oh i love you man oh oh oh this is great oh i hear great stuff about the hr department at studio cheese of that did the movie saw the producer on tv talking about the movie he seemed like a good producer not bad you know i hear there was an excellent craft table good spread uh man of course of course when uh skies of song is happening and and you know you're having the uh what i'll what i'll describe is the la la la moment you fucking you feel it you get all you

it's right there you know in your chest i got the i got the heavy chest i felt it no the soundtrack was lovely ludwig it was incredible there's a very um honestly i'm surprised that like again just it it's the type of thing where i'm like fuck i i really wish this was like not like blocked it on netflix and canada or so you know i wish it was like more easily accessible but um yeah no it was it was it was great uh i really feel kind of dumb because um about 40 minutes in i think it took me actually seeing the ballroom from beauty and the beast to go oh they're it's a they're doing a are you serious it's uh i didn't i didn't it's the name it's the fucking name of the thing it's that it's right there it's right there and yet

and yet it's not it's not bell delphine no it's no which is a very different movie with a much weirder soundtrack no it's it's you'd be surprised how many people were commenting on that and so she's got pink hair too no but you but no yeah it's it's embarrassing honestly but they're like a bath scene not not really um no when the trailers came out um jesus christ society is fucked now now uh the the yeah the actual e in the in the spelling like you know as in like bell is in bell uh is it's part of it is it is that it's left off as well in in context because her name is suzu which is like japanese for like ring ring bell type of thing so it's played for a little uh like double entendre you know um but uh yeah the honestly

what was uh really and it was it was the type of thing where it's like this is a perfect couple watching film i would say as well um but sure what was uh what was really funny and what made me feel my age is that it's also uh i'm gonna say this is and this is very much targeting uh a zoomer and post zoomer generation in that i felt um that the introduction of it's of the so there's obviously there's your characters there's everything happening in real life and then there is a social media aspect to it and social media plays a uh a mirror role to what you're seeing and the parts of it where like i would look at moments of like social media crisis and or digital like anxiety and i would be like okay time to just go offline time to walk away

from the phone put the thing down um time to pull a tyler the creator and just turn the screen off and leave it alone right but in the world of the characters of these kids who absolutely are reflective of modern kids there is no walking away from that that is your world right like being online being a part of that digital you know being a part of the the your social media with your friends and um counting up every like as it as your photo is is uploaded and then finding the friend that didn't like it fast enough and then going and asking them why do you hate me um is absolutely something that like it is real if you watch the social dilemma it talks about like that level of entrenched social media with you know the the the internet generation and um and i know

that you combine that with kind of like nico nico as well and like the more japanese side of things and it's like oh yeah no like the message boards the the the school message boards the classroom stuff all of that is it's a part of your life it's not even like separating it from you is possible at all you know uh so that's a foregone conclusion for a lot of younger people and like this movie is in that lens do you know what i mean does that make sense oh to me it makes sense because i i i was there when we made it it was one of the concepts yeah i just i'm more like am i off on this thing than all right what was it what do you really feel that you you you nailed the post

zoomer aesthetic i just wrote the music now honestly though you at some point as a composer you have to be honest with yourself and be like i wrote what felt i felt fit the scene blah blah blah you can't it's not all about like oh i needed to get into the mindset of a fucking zoomer i am so fucking in love with that answer i had i appreciate it so goddamn much i'm so like what were you feeling like i thought the music was gonna sound good when we put it on the scene that was there dude so many composers out there like trying to explain where they're coming from with sometimes you just come up with something that like sounds good and cool and you like it and you want to make sure it gets are you telling me you didn't move to the rural Japanese

countryside for a year and live as a high school student to get inspired um no but honestly uh uh so it's me and two other guys were the main composer for this composers for this film and the head guy who was basically like in charge of um talking to the director and everything taishi his son actually did go to the like village pictured in the film and the bridge that you see them walking over and he sat down and that's where he wrote like his main song that's that's a real place that's a real place and and that's the thing that he did and i was like wow you okay i guess you have the time and money to do that but you know it turned out he got he made one of the best songs for the film doing that so sometimes it worked i'm not being like every

once in a while like you you have to sit down and conceptualize before writing music but like um getting into the head of a zoomer not a thing that i did right i mean it's also you know like from what we've heard about production like koji pro also went around the world and you know went to locations to scout things before like coming back to recreate them digitally right which you know when you're going that meticulous in detail of course it you want to get as much reference as possible so that just makes sense yeah when you're talking about being authentic you know you got to do your groundwork your research for that but um yeah that but that was definitely the one standout thing as like as an adult kind of watching the story and uh you know and again like a punch

mom as well we were both kind of like yeah there's a there's a like a feeling of being like handcuffed to your digital self um that comes with like kids these days you know and um like and the tell and probably like reducing that exposure or or you know proposing that that exposure gets reduced might elicit an even worse reaction depending on you know how bad the situation is of course um so uh i i feel that like if you're someone living in that reality uh this is gonna very much fit what your uh what your day to day like every mandatory online experience is like we're gonna have emails later so by the way if you're listening to this podcast and you are fully the current or post-zumerist uh utopia you can write it and tell us if you've watched this film

if it adequately described your your life status in terms of the social media if you were born after the year 2000 uh is that a zoomer i mean that's a that's a quick way to to i don't know what it is i don't know what the generations are anymore yeah i think that's like the the raw simple cut of ludwig howl to you i'm uh i was born in 87 so i'm okay so you're you're younger than me yeah yeah you're right we're all right in this horrible millennial fucking shit it's garbage anybody who can who can easily count their their birthday by looking at the year it is you know minus one or two and uh or so is is going to be included in that um but yes no uh uh that being said uh yeah well

when you when you get the chance uh check that out pat i think is the movie good yeah it is it is good good movie it is a good good did you watch the um english version or japanese so the version that was available for rent was the english version okay well it needs to be said that i we're we're very happy with the english version as well because we had the opportunity to actually go and record um kylie who did the english um susie and bell record her songs in in new york with her oh cool um and it's it's the one version where we had like full control nice okay outside of the japanese version so i got to um translate the lyrics and everything so um good times and and i i feel like the english version is a strong version as well though i'm

usually for for anything anime i obviously since i speak japanese i always go for the japanese version yeah that is but you worked more on the dub so so the dub then is what you're saying no i well obviously worked even more on on the japanese one but like the like there's also like a romanian german polish and like norwegian version of it those are not versions that i'm basic i'm commonly familiar with getting dubs at all that's cool it's it's really right and and like chinese that also i think um but for those we we because of covet partly we weren't able to be as much of a part of the music production or music localization production okay so they they just kind of handled uh the not just the dubbing but the like rearrangement of the music

as well yeah yeah um we did one of those like disney localization packages where they like just basically needed to do things in a certain order in a certain way and it would sound right okay um yeah well i mean my preference is to go with like the language of the original you know and like thing where you like to kneel in front of your television while you watch it god what bleed bleed from my god damn calves and knees while i do so yes it's the only real way woolly come on uh um yeah that's but they don't have sofas here uh yeah but no i i in this case you know with that i i felt like yeah the dub was was more than fine it was it was very solid is good um the translation of the subtitles we had to turn that off because

it was transliterating the japanese versus the dub oh and they don't match up at a certain point at well at multiple points where you know you can see something that is again like again like more of a more of a direct anime translation or so and and then they summarized it or you know um like oh what what did she say at one point i think uh suzu's best friend um refers to someone is like getting served or something to there there's a couple of moments of just like oh yeah and there's there's the there's the localized lingo that is not at all going to show up in the subtitles you know um yeah getting dragged excuse me someone gets dragged in in english but not in japanese so yeah yeah now why would you have those subtitles on it again by default you know

but it's like yeah okay no this is not gonna i right i also have to say um since i've been streaming and lp'ing for so long i watch everything with subtitles on even stuff in languages that i already speak because i it's kind of become the default for me it helps in a lot of cases but um what was it uh squid games is another example where you know what you're reading and and well at least in english what they were saying is just off but in that case i'd say you know don't watch it dubbed if you can avoid it right um right oh the squid game dub is fucking crazy it's fucking nuts it's like a whole different beast i think i told the story about i loaned my friend old boy on dvd and she watched it and went like yeah it was okay i guess but wasn't anything special and in the

course of the conversation we kind of realized that by popping it in and just pressing play it plays dubbed automatically and the dub for old boy spoils the movie itself well before it gets to like its third act you know and it's just like what like how to butcher your own product you know by having a bad dub like jesus christ man um yeah so also you know who you can blame for people like me using too many subtitles um you can blame chris nolan uh for making multiple movies back to back in which you can't understand what a single character is saying even though they're talking in like an empty hotel room yeah yeah that's the whole conversation you know um hey is your you think where this is a dream what what who what the fucking there's no background

fucking soundtrack to the scene how did i not understand you that being said if it's directed by guy richie turn the fucking subtitles on don't go round and round the rero that's not that's not real woolly but what if you're wrong uh anyway uh so that that was all great to hear what he's talking about that's exactly the point i'm in a funny situation where where i watch everything with subtitles but like i have to have either japanese or korean subtitles for my wife who doesn't really speak english okay um and and that means that we cannot watch anything that's not either japanese korean or english because well i mean i could watch stuff with japanese subtitles but it's i zone out yeah so like whenever we're there's like a really good european film i

either have to watch myself or like sit through it with japanese subtitles because we can't watch it with english subtitles and we're not going to watch a fucking dog right in english with korean subtitles that's just not happening especially for like artsy films or whatever but that being said i watch everything with subtitles too in the end because of that partly yeah come to think of it page is the same way she has like whispering and like low mumbling dialogue which has become the norm has led her to like like just watch a whole scene like not not single god damn thing goes through one of the reasons we're watching x-files now and we're having such a good time watching x-files that we're grabbing it off itunes and it has real

subtitles built into it whereas every now and then we get a drama or we try and watch and there's shitty subtitles or no subtitling and we end up having to stop because like she's just not able to get over like the mumbling and then i have to explain it and then we're pausing it and it's like a whole fucking thing something that's really cool though is that um people are like once upon a time subtitles in america was like a bad word it was just like something that would be a humongous like uh reason why foreign films might not take off because people i still think that is absolutely the case it is but it is slowly changing it seems um with more i think being mainstream anime watchers and there was an article this week about like how uh stranger things has funny subtitles

in season four so people are watching it with subtitles on and like enjoying it for the extra like comedic like effect of like squelching noises and stuff like that then there were there just and it was you know getting into the the fact that like it's kind of starting to turn around you know i was always under the impression that the reason why americans in particular are so violently against subtitles is that a significant portion of them don't know how to read well there's that i'm not gonna comment on it what okay all right anyways um that's fair that's fair anyways so yeah i grew up in a country where speaking a second language is a must and you guys having um lived in kebek for for a longer

while well not anymore for you pat you know lucky me that life is yeah uh is i have a hard time getting into the mindset of somebody who's never even like imagined yeah it's it's weird not speaking two languages i don't know what that's like i mean the i'll let you know in 10 years when i no longer know how to say that at all when it's gone completely basically i can't i can't judge because i don't understand i mean yeah like i record with reggie who's like english is a second language and men yeah who's it's english is his third language so yeah that's that's super common up here um yeah almost everybody i knew and in university all spoke to half of them spoke like three and a couple spoke four i was like man i feel dumb only speaking two over here god damn

um out of curiosity uh lidvik like with uh because i've known people that have like been like worked in japan for like yeah over a decade and something about like the fluency levels is is it's still elusive um are you do you know you're like n rating on like the like what level japanese or have you ever done any of those like things to find out like what fluency level you're at i mean like the the the main test that you can do here is called the jlp which goes up to level one and i got that like the second year i was here and but that's by no means like super fluent or anything at that point like that test doesn't really go that high up um but yeah no i i have no issues with japanese and and i don't know many

people who are better than me at it um but um uh i think that's partly because i spent two years just going to japanese school when i mean that would help right yeah yeah yeah people just move here and start working right away they never really find the time to like actually get good at it and it was sort of my goal when i first came here to learn the language and not do anything else so that's your third language right head start that's my third language if we're not counting norwegian when i lived in norway but i don't remember that anymore oh do you not um yeah now i i lived in norway for a year before i moved over here and norwegian is fairly similar to swedish so it was basically just getting used to it okay so that's why it kind of like it disappeared

after a year i think that officially qualifies you as a polyglot i would say yeah totally um well three three i'm confident in three languages but uh yeah i've like just again a friend of mine that was you know uh that's worked there for you know ten plus was describing how like um the yeah so the the n one two three four and five and one i like going up to five like the fifth level is like like the average person on the street is not at the fifth level the you know what i mean like the and that it's like there's a level for just like are you a japanese lit professor almost you know can you read a full newspaper back to front and describe the history of all the kanji used within type of you know it's like a level of just like yeah i have a situation like that inside

my own family where my sister is a is a certified translator for english french and as a result my father who is you know he's in his 70s and he's a frenchman he sounds like shit when he talks to her in french like it is it's a joke how much more advanced her french skills are despite the fact that he is 40 years older than her no 30 years older than she is and he's a native and he grew up in a non-bilingual household um yeah no it's it's not it's not enough to just know if you want to be fancy no smart like yeah sister yeah and if you're like if we're talking about like japanese or chinese these languages that have the kanji you know like as you were saying will

learning not only the normal street level kanjis but also all the ones that are aren't used and like the history behind them and all of that it's it's a whole science i guess that um you're not going to gain much from knowing but if you like it you're into it sure and there there's a bunch of like foreigners here who like they're they're japanese sounds foreign it like they have a full on accent but they know more like lingo and terms and shit than normal japanese people yeah as a result of like trying to catch back up right yeah i should learn a third language so i have a second language that i actually enjoy speaking i mean

whatever it is if you don't use it on a regular basis you're gonna fucking lose it so you know i guess right i had i had like a like a semester of greek and i felt good really yeah i took greek for a semester in in college and like i felt like oh i can introduce myself fun yeah i liked it i really enjoyed it and i could i thought i was like i could introduce myself say hello and uh explain why i know a little bit of greek and that was the extent of like you know like it was like like yeah it's like do you speak you know do i yes i speak it or and and um i can or it's like what was this the bit where it's like do you speak english it's like no just this and the sentence explaining it or whatever yeah yeah you know or whatever something like that

where i'm like i had a solid um one minute of conversation you know um and then yeah you don't practice anything you don't talk to anybody you don't use it you have no reason to to see it it's gone your brain atrophies that off and and fucking ships it you know like you're not gonna bother um that's the sure but at least if you're enjoying it that's like probably the first best step i did spanish for four years and i hate it every minute of it yeah i don't remember i mean you you you okay i didn't know that you you learned any spanish it's like you got to enjoy the wonderful world of latin based verb tenses which is just that that's that's what i that's what i mean when i like a language that like i would enjoy speaking because when i speak french is my

second language every single thing that comes it's not external problems it's not people being shitty to me it's like i always feel like i'm speaking it wrong even if it's mostly correct because there's so many rules that i could screw up yeah no um all that all that greek is just frame data now that's just it's just it's just fighting game frame data um the and the funniest part is uh hearing about how like whatever someone is like trying to practice in a in a country or in a situation where you need to use it more often people will hear it and then switch back over to their english because they're like oh you seem to be struggling here let me use my english and it's like motherfucker i'm trying to practice to get better stop switching back you know so that's a

common thing as well um oh yeah for sure yeah no like i had quite a few awkward convenience store visits when i first got here to japan i was trying to explain something in japanese and they'll switch to even worse english um it's like it's the thought is sweet but it's like there's no no one's benefiting anything from this but it is appreciated right yeah yeah yeah i i i saw a comedian recently who did a whole bit about like trying to use his broken french and going to tim hortons to try and order a coffee you know and and then just she's and then the cash you're just switching over and okay okay uh uh to uh you want uh come on see medium in english you know just like oh my god that level of like shit can you just can you just

meet me meet me in the middle here please you know um anyway uh so let's move along um um but uh if you want to sure check out uh uh over um woolly versus we are going to be finishing off elden ring most likely um oh you're gonna be in tomorrow for sure yeah uh we wrapped up mass effect one and uh reggie uh uh red shepherd made his way to the finish line mostly avoiding crisis but kind of leaning into it in some cases that that playthrough sounds like you burned down space if you could burn down space he kind of did he kind of did uh it was it was it was it was wild uh so that that concludes uh and of course uh with that we will be starting mass effect two this week so tune in on wednesday and this is a perfect example of that whole um turn the brain off

spoilers thing because i've heard a million things about mass effect you have probably been overtly spoiled on mass effect two like a thousand times i've deleted all of it i'm pretty good all things considered impressive so we're gonna go in um and and that's your first that's my first time your first time through and and you're playing this that this one rigidly yeah yeah so uh first time through taking the reins we'll see what happens um that's going on on wednesday on the stream and then uh thursday of course providing that elden ring wraps up it's going to be time to start a new lp uh if it doesn't then we'll just finish it off this week and if it does we'll have a slot and i figure um there's some stuff i want to play that's a little bit

longer but i wouldn't mind peppering in a few short things uh to to in the gap so if we finish elden ring on tuesday then on thursday i will be starting dead space one oh that's a great game and uh from hearing about how shitty the pc disaster port is uh it sure is i'm going to be playing it on the xbox series x port of the that is the right decision that is absolutely if you were on if you would ask me i would have told you that's the easiest way to play it normally by far yeah i was going to wait for the remake but i said fuck it we're we're we're here now it's still great i hope you're ready to play as a character with the heaviest shoes in any game i've ever played in my fucking life oh yeah okay well so here comes the big space arc uh

in willy versus going going big space for a minute um yeah so that's that's what that's what we're going to be doing tune in this week for some stuff uh oh also multi versus uh is uh open the things going great it's really fun if you guys have uh haven't checked it out i think as of tomorrow it's the open beta is publicly open uh jump on and and try it out man it's it's and play is lebron lebron james is in fact yes we'll get that with scratch that get that one out of the way uh lebron james confirmed for for for multi brawl uh you know it's from your favorite movie space jam comes lebron james someone said something to the effect i think if they said like it's not him doing his own voice acting in the no and it's like what the fuck are you couldn't even show up for that

really like like but the whole space damn bit bizarre because more lebron james in video games this year is him just killing people instead of playing basketball what like lebron james is appearing in more non basketball games this year than he is basketball games where else is he showing up how is that killing people let me uh so it was something i was reading earlier fortnight is he in fortnight he's probably in fortnight oh well yeah okay i just i hope that even though it's probably not in their interest considering they want to you know they want people to see space jam 2 and go look it's lebron and space jam 2 i would hope that they at least sent an email to mj and went look i know it's already a no but if on the off

chance you might be halfway interested in yeah there's no chance mj michael jordan would be interested in showing up in space as a space jam one thing but if that would be a fun thing to see the people that are our boomerage would probably enjoy that just like the zoomers would enjoy lebron supposedly lebron james hates rick and morty and by hates rick and morty i don't mean the tv show i mean he wants to kill rick and morty according to his leaked dialogue well that perfect um i mean all things considered in the trailer like he looks fun to play like he looks like he's doing super dunks and slamming on you and knocking you out jumping offstage to like bounce pass you know to like to to kill you and then like jump back up so a basketball player as a smash

brother's character conceptually is a fun thing um oh anyway by the way willy this is gonna sound completely insane that i actually kept thinking about this uh over a week later but you remember last week on the podcast when i was talking about all that stupid ff 14 and the trackers and all that external fucking technical shit complete nonsense and you were asking me like couldn't you show up and play the game uh-huh i actually went back i was talking to other people and discovered the old standby and that is you could actually just show absolutely just show up and play the game and it's very similar to hitboxes and frame data okay couldn't you actually just start a match and just learn how to play guile by just playing guile all day yeah yeah totally but it go a lot faster

if you had accurate hitbox if you want to start an accurate frame data right okay then you use the internet resources to get fighting games like so we always made jokes about explain it to really like a fighting game but actually analogy works but actually for like mmo specifically it's like a one-to-one the analogy works it wouldn't keep coming back up as a joke if it didn't work but it totally does you know uh yeah cool okay um oh and i was also just a quick note about multi versus um the twitch plugin integration shit with that is marvelous um it's fucking great i can't believe how smooth that works so um they basically allowed you to connect your twitch account to your game and if you're well first of all if you're a viewer you watch for an hour then you get access to the

beta um if you're a streamer they let you create a lobby and then people in your twitch chat can just click to join that lobby and you can click to bring them into your game right away and just have a queue of people who are viewers that are like oh yeah i want to play with you when i go when i get up when whoever's next you know and as a four player game where you're going to go through a lot of different people um fairly quickly that's a fucking god sent feature for streamer side it is by far the easiest game i've ever played in terms of getting people watching the show to get in on the show and play on the show fantastic you want to talk about get into fighting games like that's a that's a great great feature for that so um just another thing on top of the you

know like rollback four players free to play um solid gameplay design all of this stuff going on with multi versus like it's landing man it's doing it really well and the incentivizing you know people to just play with a streamer that they're watching and allow you to effortlessly get people in and out queued up um no friendless nonsense any of that because the friend lists on steam if you have to manage that to play games with people is nightmarish you know so this completely bypasses that wonderful feature so uh the only thing i want to talk because we're already running long but the only thing i want to talk about multi versus is that um out of all i i really loved playing strife i really liked playing all the fighting games that i've played over the past

couple years that have come out i've put more time into multi versus in like the first week that i have available and it's not because i like it better and it's not because the online is better it's because when i get to the title screen it has a gigantic button that says play yep and i and it instantly cues me into a match and within 30 seconds i'm playing a match wb is taking the fort night you know moba school of thought um the title screen doesn't look like a fighting game it looks like another looks like fortnight looks like yeah hilariously looks like fortnight they're they're borrowing what they need to from elsewhere and um so far it works man and and this is not like strife where i load into the game and then i go to the lobby and i walk up to the arcade

machine and then i put my fucking sword out and maybe somebody you'll fucking walk over to me and play a match within the first 10 minutes none of this would matter if the game wasn't fun but it is so um kudos uh that's that's you know you're gonna get to check that out tomorrow as well so if you haven't jumped in on multi versus already give it a shot you'll probably i think you might like it especially if you enjoy um smash and if you've played any smash clones feels like some of them are hit some of them are miss a lot of them are miss i feel like rivals of aether was my favorite of the other non-smash you know um games out there and yeah this is like probably going to come right up next to that and uh as far as like solid platform fighters go uh so

a video for that's going to be droppings too on willy versus check that out okay uh let's take a quick word from our sponsors if we may uh and then let's try to get through this and be respectful of our friend's time over here oh i'm i'm all good i knew it i know what the show's like so i knew it he knows he just described going on a two-hour commute he fucking knows how long the podcast is uh this week i the podcast is sponsored by stitch fix and uh that was the service that was available for uh dressing you up and getting you into better clothing than your own ability to do so because uh some people are able to dress themselves some people have others that dress them uh but not everyone is that lucky yeah i'm married now so luckily there's a lady that tells

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fact a possibility but we're gonna go pretty quick um can i go get some coffee okay all right okay no problem this saves me from a repeat of that time i accidentally peed on stream more about accidental bathroom usage in a moment and there we are coffee has been obtained i'm so stupid well you well you're stupid pat is stupid okay so now that i got you alone let's talk about tech in yes um that's a fighting game right i know the fighting games there's creep fighter there's virtue of fighter

it's just listen there's a tech in anime coming up um oh man and that sounds like there's a trailer that uh they released and it's like okay tech in it's not the thing that's had like it's it's attempts at story stuff have been like there was that live action movie which is not the worst of the fighting game movies but you know it's there it's a little weird um there's some stuff about it that i thought was genuinely well done um you know eddy gordo was cool um and then there's the story mode from tech in five which you know the the the weirdness of the sterile ace combat story delivery with a bunch of uh just really like just a whole lot of like corniness to it but um then there's the akuma tie-in where you're like well that's pretty fun but

overall tech in has struggled to kind of like get its story elements across uh i'll say this anime now this is a really charitable there's a story to take it yeah i'm i'm giving it i'm giving it all the all the stretch here but here's the thing right when i initially saw the anime trailer and the art style they went with i'm like i'm not opposed to picking an experimental art style i think that's fine if you want to try something different you know uh stylized whatever the case may be when they showed off gendy's clone wars it was like oh really we're doing we're doing dexter's lab style star wars and then it turned out great um yeah i'm not opposed you know but what fucking gets me about the tech in bloodline trailer uh is once you see this you can't fucking unsee it

every single character in every single frame has a square shadow triangle at the top of their head and it's the way they've decided to light everyone and you can't unsee it it's a product of i guess going with a specific style of 3d where they want to have like shading um just have a bit of a like a halo effect glowing on everybody but it's a hard triangle shadow and it looks so weird because not every situation is lit in a way that makes that lighting makes sense i've never seen anything go this hard in that um in in that way it's a weird artistic decision um go if you type in the po tech in bloodline and i look at the poster the trailer no it's playing it's playing it's playing i i don't want to look at it but i it's playing and it's

hurting my eyes i just it's why would you put the triangle shadows on everyone's head why it um um all i can feel on this is uh somebody thought it looked good and was fast and uh they were wrong about one of those things i mean 3d anime style is obviously there's growing pains and you know every time you have an amazing example of it being successful you've also got uh berserk 2016 you know uh it's right so it all depends on like who's involved what studios are working on it and so on but um yeah it's just in this particular case it's a aggressive choice that like if it doesn't work then the whole product is going to be weird and based on this trailer and footage

and promotional shit the whole product is going to be weird i hope i i i i just don't understand the idea behind it and i wish i'd i'd love to read a description to understand like what they were going for with it um it's it's extra weird because like i'm watching through it now and the end result is that every single person no matter where they are standing in relation to each other is being lit from the back by a light 10 feet above them from directly behind them even when characters are facing each other yes but also it doesn't make any sense and it's but in front of the first 45 degrees of that light is a square a box that is blocking off the the part of their face so you can see a point at top and where their hairline is and it cuts right into

their forehead um no matter where they are no matter how it's lit and it's just so strange because i mean especially like i'm thinking back to like the intro the the basic lighting in classes we got back in college days and and uh how you know in in um cinema communications and photography like it's like lighting is them it's just the most important thing to make your art look better um dash zero is here listening right now i you like from working with him on on on projects over the years like i see the dude do meticulous layers of light passes on his concept art and things over time where it's just like you can spend forever getting the lighting right on something and it can turn something flat into something living um a simple one take solution for all scenes all

you know like renders of your character is just almost guaranteed to be a bad idea like i mean woolly you could meticulously detail any part of your project but what if you don't want to do that then you you hurry it up you get a quick fix and you fucking you spit it out and upload it yeah um can't unsee it can't unsee it and that's unfortunate because you know it'd be cool if like we'll see what happens in terms of the actual tech and storying part of this um i would like if uh start fighting game stories can uh try to become coherent it would be nice to see that occur mortal combat has taken some strut some steps in the right direction you know i don't know man like i think if you want to talk about media that's like based off fighting games i think there's

one big problem and that's the fact that every five years they just tell the same goddamn origin story again well like like comic book story origin stories things getting like tired out as well yeah like how many fucking times do i need to find out that you know hey you know jinn his his mom got killed by ogre and he became tough and he's gonna he's gonna fight his his grandpa step two is is definitely like stop rebooting and or re addressing the the origin story and move things forward hope fingers crossed three five or six right like hey we can move forward in time you know um but anyway yes there's just weird that the the main takeaway with the tech end thing is like otherwise i was like yeah let's see what happens in this story but holy shit that that weird that

weird thing yeah i think the weirdest thing is i saw it and thought it looked fine and then i saw a tweet being like what's up with the triangle lighting and then i watched it again and was like oh god damn it can't unsee it mind virus yep um so there's that we did talk about lebron already as a bit as well um something that i love that happens in video games is when years down the line long after a creator might say like oh yeah every secret has been found some motherfucker somewhere will be like hey guys um i'm my brother can't get into the church in near and then people on the near automata subreddit or like what what church what the fuck are you talking about and they're like you know the church when you drop off the platform and open the secret door and everyone's like what

white and then they upload video of them finding a new location that no one has found and that no one ever could has ever even thought to look at or has identified and near is not in a state where you can mod something like that in as far as the modding community goes that that's my favorite part because when when games come out like that you know and then people show footage of impossible shit nowadays the answer is well maybe they faked that footage and then people who know better come in and go no it's not there yet in terms of making bullshit uh no this has to be real modding mm-hmm um incredible that's it like secrets coming back 10 years later uh you know and yoko taro seems like just the kind of nut to be like oh yeah i guess we did put that in there didn't

we anyway you know or some kind of like just dismissive nonchalant answer i love how people are arguing as to whether or not it's fake in the live chat right now no it's kind of a perfect encapsulation of what we're talking about um but it seems like yeah you can walk into this this like church like area and doesn't seem like there's anything else going on in it but um i saw some people speculating that there could have been an attention an intentional link to draken guard since uh that feature that has like a church as well and they might have been going for a more direct link to draken guard all possible who knows um but this this is this is the hot off the presses i guess we'll have to

see what um the uh code scrapers and you know miners can find if there's anything actually any triggers actually inside this the issue i see with this is when somebody gets a hold of yoko taro and asks him about it he's gonna go oh i forgot that was there that doesn't do anything and then you have to pretend you have to play the game of is he doing that thing where he just loves to lie or not yes always absolutely um yeah no that's that's fun and uh i mean and i i i also do remember like uh back in the snake eater days actually when the reason why that game has so many secrets in it is because they said like everyone on the team was asked to put a secret in that game you know so that's

why there's like that much shit to find and uh uh that's that i i want more games to do that kind of thing you know that's a lot of fun i want those 10 year secrets coming back you know um didn't uh mega man 10 also have something to it i want to say oh god there was something that seth kylian he said that people have not found everything in mega man 10 more secret uh-huh and and people were at the point where they were like data mining the game and be like no there isn't and he'd be like no no still one more yeah too bad and like i think the general consensus was is that like there wasn't and he was just being a shit but at the same time fucking mike tyson's punch out for the nests they discovered a whole separate um

what was the mechanic there was a mechanic that was discovered was perfect punching was multiple times punching with the same fists that just like well beyond the life spent like like generations later they're like wait what the fuck and no one who made the game talked about it it was never released in any way there was no hints and people on the game facts board started going fucking crazy because this entire skill was there the whole time you know and it and it changes the way you play the game and the best time you can get on uh like world records and shit like that if you acknowledge that function i love that shit it's great it's it's it's excellent it's a lot of fun and it's also why um fucking video game archiving and preservation is super

important because you can find bullshit like this and then drag it into the sunlight um yeah so who knows there's a church in near we'll see where this goes well let me ask you a question livid because i have a sneaking suspicion that you've been in the situation where you're working on a project and you're not the guy talking to you know press right you know somebody some hr guy or the creative director and they're they're giving an interview and they're talking about some secret or some meaning and you're like wow what they just said was completely just a huge lie just a just a big fun lie just for fun does that fill you with a kind of like reflected like mischievousness of like because you know but nobody else can know never happened absolutely never happened

never not a single time never not a single time absolutely not especially working with people like mr kajima like never of course not okay that seems like it would be fun if it did happen but it's a shame it didn't know no no not even it's not fun either stop what are you talking about i was just wondering no stop wondering quotation you're not allowed ludwig forsel 2022 um um so last week pat i have played games in qa and seen things in qa that then got talked about on release where people uh again practically dropped trow and farted the words onto their keyboard and uh it has been uh a chuckle to not just me but the entire team when those things happen

and we would share emails with each other and we would laugh and and and uh a turtle at the shit that people create with their heads so um as as distant as that is i feel remote enjoyment when i see those moments happen anyway thanks thanks thanks thanks for thanks for letting me know woolly and only woolly absolutely so uh last week we talked about the uh the games that sometimes might drop on steam where you can feel the rhythm of their content is paced to waste just enough time so that you can no longer steam refund the game it was kind of nuts when i saw this come up this week because we had this discussion last week so i heard that i was there for that someone just tweeted out that there's a game on steam literally called refund me if you can

and uh the description says uh refund me if you can sarah is having a nightmare only you can wake her up to achieve this you have to find your way through a maze when playing the game you agree to finish it before asking for a refund unless you are a coward keep your eye on the clock time passes fast after two hours success will be locked forever for that you will have to try many paths again and again this game contains more than a hundred different paths but only one to salvation so i took a look at the game uh the game looks like trash of course i'm sure um but the its concept is so strong that it still has like mostly positive reviews on the honor system mind you just kind of like this great shot and this great blunt challenge that i can only appreciate

but it only works in this time in this era of video games when steam is out there putting out these kinds of like games on a regular basis and the refund system works this way you know this will stop making sense next generation and last generation absolutely incredible like preservation preserved moment in time of a game that asks you to use the honor system to try and beat it in under two hours and and i suppose if you do then you are allowed to go refund it unless you're a coward unless you're a coward damn you're a coward damn they took that idea that the the the shit we were talking about and like put the whole gambit on it gotta respect the hustle yeah it can't get mad at that they're up front about it yep yep it's like that what was

that game is it i am may or something that's like just about clicking a thing over and over to get a platinum achievement and it's just for people to get more platinum oh there's a bunch of those yeah oh just like a chivo feeder kind of thing yeah because since steam put that feature in where your chivos and your your cards and all that shit can feed into like a like a steam score it created an entire genre of easy achievement steam games that you can farm basically okay for more points on your on your banner apparently if you review the game then steam tells you how long you've played so there's a secondary effect there um all right so we had that uh now of course uh

this this fucking this this story came out like way later than was relevant for no reason but just just to like warm the cockles of our hearts i want to say um bots and other inauthentic users helped fuel the fan-led campaign for zack sniders justice league snider cut release according to a warner media reports i'm shocked so there's an article that came out uh that basically details how the snider cut uh which was you know uh release hashtag release the snider cut being uh one of the big uh one of the big things of at the time and also like i think save the snider verse was another that it was like where are all these dc fans coming from with this like genuine love for this this movie and and the and the wanting of of zack

snider to save it where'd this come from and um eventually through enough you know social media peer pressure uh they did release a snider cut at the four hour version but i guess some folks at wb were a little a little sussed towards like how this social media campaign came to be so they hired two independent firms to investigate and wow they really really wanted to know and they and the reports came back from both firms that uh the origins and a lot of the foundational tweets of uh release the snider cut were absolutely coming from two accounts and from bots um and that and initially uh or i think uh one one of the reports are saying that like by the end there was a 13 percent of the total amount were all falsely generated and then it kind of snowballed

from there uh and it also goes into reports about some of the beef that snider had with some of the producers on the original film and some of that factors in as well to like why the bots were not the uh the social media campaign was not just about releasing the cut but also about who's responsible for why the movies turned out bad and they're so they're they're blaming these these people that zack had beef with and so um the report then goes on to basically establish that uh uh quote a fandom amplified by fake accounts helped shake down a major studio to the ultimate cost of more than a hundred million dollars to re-release a movie that already bombed years earlier that's great that reminds me this this boat's well for the future it's

pretty strong pretty good good tidings yeah i i don't know i feel like with this and Morbius what we're seeing is that executives of movie companies who make movies that they know aren't good and are somehow able to be convinced that people want to see the bad movie again and them losing money on it is fucking hilarious really people want to see that shitty movie yeah totally bro okay so what will happen if i do a bot integrity search for hashtag unveil the beast Ludwig oh you might find that it's all me perfect great it's the title of a song i'm sure that'll that'll do something yeah one man out there there you go to perform a twitter audit and see how many are genuine

honestly i can't believe that i released a song that's hashtag something yeah yeah that's a little a little bell humor for you folks out there yeah anyway um so this is the movie on your netflix if you want to find out what that's all about if you've got it it's weird that it's on netflix by the way i didn't know that yeah it's not out here yeah well you know again in america but um this is where if we had another sponsor that uh usually would chime in this week we could tell you about how to avoid that but uh we don't have them this week so uh whatever so you will wait until the next time we do but uh i i love that justice league is the fucking the gift that keeps on giving really um i love that there's more stories

coming out and i love that wb themselves are the ones who are putting this info out there to basically say we got like we got bamboozled into releasing the snider cut you know that's awesome i have to say i think i'm trying to think about it from a more objective point of view and it's like because you feel bad like oh the snider cut like that that is an active trick right the using bots and stuff like that that is like active deception right and there was a feeling about that whole snider cut thing where it didn't feel real because no one ever knew any human beings that actually gave a shit about that um it was always just some weirdo twitter guy that was mad about the superman it got to them eventually it's it did snowball

towards real uh snider versius right but then like i feel like you don't have to feel that bad because the morbius situation was very similar in terms of its re-release losing money but the morbius thing was like an obvious joke like they're what like no one was trying to deceive them at all they were just memeing on it to hell because the movie's garbage and that still worked because somebody probably was able to go look at all this social media engagement guys we are losing we can turn this around we can save like come on you know you just have to show line going up on a chart to a board of people to get them to be like yeah put it back in theaters all right give them what they want it's that simple how many people are talking about our movie morbius pad

tons more this week than last week a fucking more billion of them they never had and a more billion fans never had a chance to see it in theaters we need to give them that chance let's get that thing back out there i'm just thinking there's there's like a really easy way to like plug the the the the nice brain buttons is like in this discussion like blame the theaters for not letting the movie breathe oh man they pulled that movie so like people didn't word of mouth didn't even have time to build up man look how much word of mouth built up now everybody loves morbius because it's up to the theaters to decide and it's not like a part of the contract which also now includes streaming deals at home which have a limited range of time

and the theater time is very very strict i found that if you can find somebody to blame people kind of lose their heads let the movie breathe um anyway uh i'm never watching morbius you should it's got good stuff in there you should it's no it's really good no hey listen you've got time to watch i found out that well no i watched the sequel yeah okay okay yeah hey man if you're failing that morb check on a daily basis you're doing something right um now of course speaking of aquaman um as as as we were speaking that's the best segue you've ever done of aquaman this is the kind of professionalism i was expecting today mother fuckers the trailer for what kind of forever came out and the sub yes yes yes i get it yes speaking of justice leagues

aquaman what kind of forever's trailer came out featuring namor the submariner are him an aquaman friend yes lords of the sea they are princes of the ocean this is a perfect subway what did i say shit subway well damn it this is a perfect segue all right all right we're listen it sure is this is a perfect segue you um yeah anyway so uh yeah the Wakanda trailer came out the Wakanda forever trailer came out um and uh prince prince namor is in it and that's a thing um and um there's a bunch of stuff in

in it that that looks pretty cool um however unfortunately the way at which i discovered this was by finding out that it was released and posted directly to chat with bozeman's twitter now that in and of itself um it turns out upon closer inspection that it's not as if there were no tweets at all since he passed away and then this was the first one uh that would be horrifying the account has been used over time for other stuff and i don't i still think it's kind of tasteless it does it seems it seems weird to use his account to promote the movie um really does it they're saying that like the movie at a glance it seems like a part of it though is because it's on behalf of his um uh estate that like it's like it's possible that like as a major sort of tribute

to him and such it's they kind of consider it within a respectful good spirit and that's kind of why it's happening and uh i guess was was he the one tweeting from that account originally uh i mean i would assume so until he passed away um it's like stan lee that account yeah kept going yeah stan lee's account um that was really not him just like to begin with there's or at least there's a number of accounts where you know it's never really been that person um iron chic for example i was about to say that it's going to be real weird having this discussion about the iron chic account when he's dead and he's still tweeting yeah because it was never him tweeting it was never him tweeting ever and if you enjoyed those tweets i'm sorry to rip the

illusion away but it's not uh it's his two managers that have been doing that um you know and there's other uh famous and infamous examples of course there's the herman kane's account which was also tweeting uh uh you know posthumously um a lot of people don't know this but drill's been dead for years and i've been writing those tweets wild are you selling that new book crazy now um so the either way with more context of like it's a regularly like used account and if this is something that is like a project they're considering is like uh tribute to him and there's something more in in line with what they do then i guess that might make it a little less awkward but it definitely strikes a weird blow to first piece of news realize that like oh someone signed

in signed into a dead person's account and is using it to promote a new mcu movie doesn't look great that's an initial like oh that's not how i wanted to find out about this especially because i'm looking forward to this and hoping it to it's a good movie it's what his ghost would have wanted obviously perhaps um in the dude i don't know it's so fucking weird it's weird it's just weird and and maybe uh when it comes out it'll be less weird but yeah yeah i don't know and you know there's no rules about like social media accounts when someone passes away yet there's no you know we're we're in that era where it's just it's kind of whatever i think facebook automatically like deletes your page but like every platform is going to do its own thing um yeah i don't know

and in any case with this i hope it turns out to be like more appropriate with extra context i hope the trailer itself uh definitely made it feel as if like there's an mcu movie happening but a lot of this is going to be about grief oh yeah and that makes a lot of sense um you know there's not many ways you could go about it like with you know and and you know they had said early on that like yeah recasting was not an option um which you know i think most people agreed like yeah that makes sense as well um so as a trailer for what they're doing and and as that as like one of the the things it's going to be focused on um seems pretty all right uh i thought the uh like i just thought a level of like music with um no woman no pride can you believe they took a

popular song and remix it with epic holywood drums yes but no one i know i hey you know i know it i know it's pretty uncommon but i do believe it was a cool trick no woman no cry into kendrick lamar is gonna fucking hype me up i'm sorry i just that shit was that that gets me and if it's if it's a cheap trick then i'm a i'm an idiot but that absolutely gets me i like a good um i like a good a good uh uh uh re remix a rearrangement in a in a cinematic sense i liked in us when i got five on it was arranged into a sinister version you know um in fact before going to see nope i was like just listening to that pack again because i'm like ooh you took out you took an old thing and you did the thing with it that was fun i like i enjoyed that um so just yeah uh as a as a as a

a musical thing they did there i i i enjoyed that and i as a fan of kendrick lamar and that song it was a nice little thing that um i was pleased to see i especially like uh that song um is is uh it it's it's anyway it's one of my favorite kendrick tracks and uh i've listened to it to feel better when i felt like shit before as well so i've definitely been like oh shit i like hearing that that's cool so i've got a little a little you know peace on the table there too um i thought that was a fun thing about the trailer hey it's a trick that works as somebody who didn't know either of the songs prior to hearing of them i was still able to tell that they were prior existing songs that were being remixed in a different way how how did you not know no

woman will cry i don't know anything about music you know that i i god damn it but okay so this is you know you could if you want to go for the like oh did you enjoy the i you're not going to go into woolly did you enjoy the black music in the black movie trailer sequel with the with the black things happening is that not going to be the direction we go here all right is that is not is that the direction you want to go that's like i mean we don't have to i mean that would that would make you the intended audience and that it meant that it worked so and but if you enjoyed it then good for you i'm not going to judge you for it no um all things considered i i i do feel i said it before when they were first talked about wakanda forever and i'm like oh man there's so much that

could go wrong in a movie like this and like there's so many ways you could there's a there's a million spinning plates and and the first one was great and you know like it just dude passes away and and you know you've got to figure out how to handle that it's it's i'm still just like okay i'm gonna go to the theater with my hands up like okay let's see how this goes you know um because it's very easy to just drop any of those spinning plates so let me ask you in because we've already seen that the studio is willing to use um the dead man's twitter account to promote the movie how much of a step would it be to just CGI a completely new dead person into the movie well from what i can tell uh this is not going the star wars route i think they've said in all the

promotional material uh that like it's probably not going to do that and um there's a whole thing about like you know honoring him and such and whatnot that they went into so uh it seems as if they're specifically steering as far away from possible uh from digital necromancy okay yeah it seems like they've basically rewrote the whole movie now before they started shooting you would have to right like it's fun yeah now that doesn't mean that there wasn't at least one exec in that board room going hey guys what about digital necromancy at some point someone might have pitched it in a full earnest and even gotten a little a couple storyboards together and went like huh here's a okay check it out you all saw

here's our digital Chadwick face if you put the right lighting on it's like did that was that the nft that they sold like i have it doesn't matter we can get this going you get a digital Chadwick you put the and then the the rest of the suit is already black panther it doesn't matter you don't have to show the body it's just the head and the acid exists and you know it could have been a thing yeah you can totally recreate his voice with ai nowadays too so that that is scary oh yeah why even have actors why not just have Ludwig do the whole movie i mean at some point that's that's the goal oh that's not what i wanted to hear oh Jesus there is currently an ai trainer where you can feed it uh like i said a couple hours of your self talking and it can create a full thing

Alexa can listen to one minute of you talking and create a full simulation of your voice we're well beyond that point that's that's fucking cake you know and also there were people who did there's like a youtube video where they said the fake young luke that that they cg'd for star wars stuff we're gonna do a better version of that in our fucking basement using better deep fake technology and they sure as shit delivered on that and to bring and to even fucking bring it back around to kendrick lemar he recently had a video that he put out using um there's a studio called spooky voodoo i want to say it's called or deep voodoo and it's by tre Parker and matt stone who are investing in a studio for deep fake technology and they put out a show

uh called god i forget what it was called but it was basically all about deep fakes and it's the creepiest weirdest shit ever because it's like mark zupkerberg and trump and a bunch of like famous people just being completely different people with different voices and it's like a perfect deep fake of them um yeah and so they used it in this kendrick video for him while he's rapping to take on the faces of like a bunch of other people he becomes like kanye for amenity becomes will smith for amenity becomes oj for amenity but you know becomes nipsey hustle like and it's it's seamless so like the tech is a million percent already here and you know south park guys have like invested in it i i wouldn't i wouldn't be sitting here expecting that two guys

who made their ridiculous fortune and cultural impact with one of the shittiest looking shows to ever release on television and a voice acting crew of them and like two other guys for 20 years to suddenly go all in on the most technologically advanced possible rendering of a human face that seemed now i wouldn't have been able to call that i i see it as them just kind of looking at it and being like oh the potential for comedy is high this is next level this is next level funny shit uh sassy justice is what it's called this is because team america did not make enough money because team america was apparently very hard to make but because of the puppets but at the same time basket ball made just enough how much is that cost to make basket ball like fucking

two quarters and some lint in your pocket right um yeah it's it's definitely uh we're already there it's it's it's getting to that place but anyways all that aside um i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna go in and i'm gonna fucking have an eyebrow raised and i hope it's hope it's cool um and yeah um it's also i guess from an mcu point of view namor is a pretty big deal that has not been introduced at any point yet so um all i know about that guy is that he wants to have sex with with with the invisible woman sew storm yep that's all i got he might have even am i right about that he he sure did he sure did he's he's also a weird fish man like aquaman is that also correct that's that's that's correct too he's very smart okay it's part of the illuminati there as well but uh yeah so they're

they're going down that road um and um somehow like the like punch bomb asks was like she's like oh the trailer's i said the trailer's she's like oh did they resolve that whole problem with that the actor on the set and the and the vac stuff and i was like what did happen to that just kind of just just that story just kind of went away and they got the movie done i suppose um but yeah when i was looking for resolutions to uh to what what happened with the with the anti-vaxxing and the shutdown of production it seemed as if there was no real resolution um and then oh cool things just kind of moved on and here we are so that's good always a fan of that anyway um no comment yep yep yep

uh and then yes as promised let us discuss the shitting of pants ooh goody vince mcman uh dread emperor of the wwe meme god meme god yeah and absolutely the source of all the greatest stories practically of all time the man ever thinks sneezing is for pussies the man who thinks sneezing is for people who lose control who gets upset when anyone sneezes in his presence uh the man who tried to out lift world's strongest man mark henry and uh basically like almost paralyzed himself the next day the man who laughed hysterically at um uh who was it someone farted and like and another wrestler passed out because it was so gross and vince thought that was the funniest shit ever so then the next day at raw backstage he went to the same

guy and then he went and tried to fart and he pushed too hard and he shat his pants but then later that night he still had to go out and do a promo in the ring so they then instructed the camera to stay above vince's waist for the entire promo wait he couldn't there was no time no time what big what part don't you understand about there was no time well the part where he said later that um okay the man who destroyed both quads just getting into a ring and demanded that he continue an entire tirade sitting on the floor of the ring because he refused to let anyone know that he had blown out both his quads uh the man who did not want to hire any asian woman until jr told him that you know some some people find asian woman very attractive and had to back it up by

showing him that there's lots of porn with asian woman in them at which point vince went oh i didn't know that i guess we'll hire one then like he has finally been defeated how was he defeated believe well you would think that um a defibrillator like health scare type thing might might be uh one that would slow someone down from working but if you go and look at the fact that like rick flair is still fucking alive and doing wrestling shows it's like no some of these dudes just keep it going by the way when rick flair uh when rick flair was um there was something that happened with him that was a health scare and like he was like unconscious and like possibly like possibly clinically dead for like a second or something happened and at the time i want i think hall

kogan's tweet upon hearing the news was kick out brother this fucking carty shit i mean so what finally did vince in uh health issues led to him uh having again like he had some chest defibrillation thing going on where he had to stop working for six months combined with scandal and and uh uh some uh not so good things coming about uh him and and some woman and it seems oh you mean how he allegedly uh sexually assaulted many women over the course of his career wwe and then also cheated on his wife a bunch and used company money to pay them off and created a uh basically a background of um he was the untouchable guy of course for all these

years and he's that kind of insane person of course he's gonna use company money for those things of course that's gonna be uh what's happening and uh allegedly all these things allegedly all these things then lead to uh him taking a break people kind of going like uh oh looks like looks like there's no really there's no kicking out of that one for vince and then a tweet where he says yep uh i finally decided to retire at 77 and triple h is now taking over so i feel like one of two things is going to happen he's either gonna live for 50 more years or he's basically going to die immediately those types of old crazy people when they are only alive work hmm one or the other could be could be uh either way i mean how good the juice is

either way like this is like one of the most insane people ever uh who according to most like active wrestling fans which again i'm not going to pretend that i'm up to date on on the week to week uh business you're a former smark former um but it's but the general consensus is that um he single-handedly is like holding the entire industry back uh because he's insane and that like anyone else taking over even if they've got their own issues with how they treat the business like triple h is still a market improvement um not just for uh wwe but for like all other promotions uh i feel like you don't need to be an active fan of pro wrestling to know that vince has been ruining wrestling for like 30 years yeah like me like i watched wrestling

for like a few weeks when it was on tv which was like never before then like in high school or something yeah and i got enough information to kind of keep up to date with like i hey i knew who fucking drax was before he was in the movie right yeah yeah vince has been an overt problem for everybody forever he's omnipresent again which is why i use the term defeated you know right a man like vince it's it's more than just like a cancellation or a firing or a stepping down or a retirement as he says it is truly defeating a force um you know it's it's wild to me because like not to in any way uh belittle any of the current accusations or like clear allegations against him but what blows me away is the fact that like dude covered up at least a one murder

and that one he's skated on like nobody even talks about that anymore super fly snooker yeah yeah yeah yeah when jimmy's girlfriend just disappeared and vince tells the cops not to worry about it and so they stopped worrying about it yeah like you think that would have done him in that's a fucking murder wrestling he obviously did a good job i had no idea about that one oh yeah i'm like what jimmy superfly snooker had a long-term abusive relationship with his girlfriend and then one day she just went away and he was obviously the prime suspect and then vince tells him tells the cops

i don't worry about it wasn't jimmy the cops go okay wasn't jimmy yep defeated defeated um ripping shit you old bastard i congrats world i well here's the thing is will will time pass and then he will be like god damn it i want another shot no you know what you're gonna see you're gonna see xfl again well the rock bought it so when you do see it again see the the zfl fuck yeah when the when you do see the xfl again it'll be because the rock is bringing it back or maybe he'll go back to trying to fuck up like worldwide competitive bodybuilding again i mean whatever the fuck it is dude like those things are his body

will eventually deflate like there's a time limit on the steroids and and it'll it's gonna look again like an inflated balloon you know slowly slowly over time uh becoming the age that he actually is do you think that it's possible that instead he expands until he bursts in a public place like a like a like a sausage you left in the microwave too long pat i think that's a possibility yes i just definitely a possibility and if he makes a loud noise in that bursting he'd be super pissed because it'd be like he's not get a hold of yourself god damn it what are you doing making noises oh um yeah man oh that's that's that's a fucking wild one um right good yep i i have a feeling the story ain't over i have a feeling more and more to come but uh oh yeah we'll see

oh there's gonna be more there's gonna be lots more um yeah okay that's that's the news that's the news we did it we beat the news let's take some letters yeah before we get in i just want to make a two second thing uh the tactics ogre let us cling together remaster stuff leaked out and uh they're changing all the leveling and redoing the whole game to have full voice acting and uh redrawing a bunch of the portraits and it looks fucking great so it's probably gonna be the best game in that genre since fall fancy tactics didn't we talk about i want to say we talked about it maybe two three weeks ago when at first

yeah but like literally today like a ton of shit like leaked out looks great uh cool all right if you do have a letter and you'd like to send it in of course castle super beast mail at gmail.com is the place to do that not any other version of those words just those words yeah it has to be those words in that order or else you're going to send it to like probably no one castle super beast mail at gmail.com uh let's take one over here from uh professor x says um hey mr let me combo younglings live on stream captain dog walk fitness plan and incredibly and incredibly brave composer uh so um sd gundam battle alliance as a game uh sorry is a character action light game coming out next month with a good pedigree

with a developer that's done good action games um um and it's an interesting mashup of things in this series over time uh however the latest trailer for this recently said a basically straight up says all of gundam is a computer simulation and screwing with this simulation messes up physical history and i'm just like why would you use such an anti-hype premise for the third time because yes they've done this before that's so awful am i crazy for thinking this is the most anti-hype reason for a crossover thing ever like it's terrible uh yeah i'm either one who's out of touch or is this some uh japanese dinosaur legitimately thinking it's cool uh from professor x um i mean look man personally the first thing i think of is people have been wary of and kind of over the it

was all a dream like gambit ever since fucking dallas right uh was it away before that dallas wave finale in the 70s was like one of the first major moments of like the fuck i haven't thought about that one this entire thing never happened and everyone's like oh fuck right off with that yeah um yeah people like like to post fanfic stuff about like harry potter also being him like just being a drug addict or something like here's i we've played some games and read some stories in which it it's all a dream but then the dream is real so okay congrats on dodging that i've i one example in recent memory for me where it was all a dream was actually fucking sick and that's yeah i can think of one as well oh no i'm not talking about that okay

like i mean one of those endings of which there's many is that one and i sent you the i messaged you what the king i'm thinking of okay yes well there's other examples certainly out there i mean the matrix is it's all a dream to some degree yeah um but the dream is real so okay yeah and this is a dodgy conversation of course because you know you don't want to ruin any good things but yeah um yeah no in terms of old shit that i don't we can talk about like that silent hill one holy fuck did that hit you know because of the jump cut brutality of like what it like how it plays out um but no as a premise that shits weak sauce then fucking stop it don't do that like you know what you know what the crossover idea for multi versus is is wouldn't it be cool if batman and

hang out with bugs bunny that's it that's the end of the like the that non concept is much more interesting than what if nothing mattered like okay great cool thanks iron giant loves superman and iron giant got to hang out with superman and he went yay i'm happy that's it and the superman went you're cool and then and then that's it thumbs up yep yep sure um and then they kissed i'm gonna go ahead and still say that like it was all a dream like your like 90 percent that is a d20 roll and you've gotta hit a fucking 20 to nail it yeah i would say so yeah um all right we got one over here from miles who says hey jets with the newest live action adaptation um of uu hack a show i decided to rewatch the anime and in doing so i'm reminded of how much

i love the english opening and ending songs although english covers and changes were pretty hit or miss i do appreciate the unique takes from um official dumping houses uh do you have any non-native language covers that you prefer or um what piece of media do you think would benefit an official localization or op i i don't maybe maybe i'm wrong because the song might be trash but i still prefer fucking dragon dragon rock the dragon over the fucking japanese dragon ball opening um i definitely can think of in terms of english anime op's um the two that i fucking really like all these years is uh wolf's rain um yoko kano and steve konte stray is a fucking fire ass track i love it uh ironically and unironically such a disproportionate amount of mentions of

wolf's rain on someone's gotta do it someone's gotta do it it's gonna be me no one on the internet's talking about what's rain no one cares about wolf's rain but we've both brought up like five times i will carry that weight and furthermore um serial experiments lane has a song uh for the op duvet by a boa which is a fucking solid ass banger as well um and yeah i i love that shit i love a really well placed like you know english song for an anime that can thematically pull things along it's cool i don't really have much on this but i will say that um when i first the first anime i ever saw was sailor moon and like as a kid in swedish and singing the swedish version of the sailor moon opening song at my initiation party at konami when i first started there is one of the

most like retold stories i've ever heard from like people who used to work with just like the expectations of what that song is supposed to be versus like the swedish version and the translation that i showed as i was uh presenting this song was a fun moment so to me that song will always be what's what's the difference same melody i've never heard it it's the same song but it's translated weirdly uh japanese is more towards like um sorry for being a weird person blah blah blah it starts off whatever i'm not gonna translate it but like the swedish version for some reason has like oh if she falls on her ass she's going to cry and she's the one named sailor moon oh you know what you know what i'm gonna say that the the german language naruto is probably the

best one because it is absolutely unhinged yeah it's not but that's not a translation of the op that's just a no that's a completely new song that's something different entirely yeah um that doesn't even fucking go to the count uh although um okay they did the same thing for escaflone when that came to america to fox new uh animation or one i want to say is where it aired and um the escaflone intro in japanese is a fucking beautiful song but they gave it this kind of like like pseudo techno kind of track which genre does not fit at all but it's a pretty hype track it's just for the wrong genre of show you know there's there's been when they were trying to get the whole um you know the block going with

with escaflone uh mystic knights of tir nanogue and big bad beetle boards that was the era in which digimon was defined by like the track hits in america if i remember like that was the fucking title track for the movie in english only i wouldn't know i do know that monster rancher has some english fucking the shit going on that was to this day burnt in man that was a weird fucking era um but they were trying to figure out what to do when they when they when they brought that shit over and just packaged it up and went like okay it fits alongside all the you know uh uh sentai type sabon shit that we're we're putting out here let's drop some pseudo techno on a story of fantasy mechs and dragons like it's a it's a fucking sick track though it's just well you see

because it's a robot right um right it's a robot that's a techno right there but those are the rules we got one over here from x who says thank you for the support you know sand but sandbagging doesn't work as effectively when when someone can save you yeah i know right it's it's weird like i was really like thrilled at the assist it felt me it made me really happy thank you uh why f0 die and there's a lot of talk of why nintendo stopped releasing f0 games but after that guy purchased stock to ask for more f0 i looked into it my findings were that pretty much it seems to stem from how badly received the anime adaptation

only known for one thing and its tie-in games were for the scope on how badly the anime did it was canceled after one season then they only dubbed 15 out of 51 episodes some of which are lost media the two tie-in games on the gba didn't come close to selling as well as gx or the second one f0 climax sold worse week one than wonderful 101 did in japan which is just above 5 000 copies um it was never released outside of japan nintendo seems pretty willing to bury those two games and the anime since beside a small mention in brawl smash brothers acts like gx was the last game in the series and the anime failed so hard it pulled the plug on any other adaptations of nintendo games despite pokemon and kirby doing well um that's what happened to have

zero and um it seems like nintendo wants to make a big franchise like pokemon or kirby but if it ends up flopping as hard as uh it ended up flopping as hard as kishimoto samurai 8 so that's it that's an interesting uh uh like sort of like dive on what happened there because i do remember hearing about the f0 tie-in games and the probably the most frustrating aspect about this is that if they just made another main f0 game on the main console at the time it probably would have been fine but by going and following up a game that people enjoyed with i mean there was the arcade versions and stuff which was cool but going into an anime spin-off which the quality of the anime is going to determine how good that is and then the games are

associated with that thing and these are also gba games and hoping to uh see that as a sign of life for your franchise it's like motherfucker just make another normal f0 game and that would like to see some kind of unhinged statement from someone where some businessman thinks that human beings are no longer able to play games as fast as f0 and that being the reason because it's a hell of a lot more satisfying than this the anime did bad so they killed the franchise forever jesus christ that's ridiculous man um you know like metroid dread is a metroid game that came out long after metroid has been very silent and then it did metroid things and guess what it was good and everyone likes it and yay you can do that uh if you go off into a weird

experimental side thing and then that thing fails it doesn't mean your whole thing fails but if you do that away that's what means it's like it's much for you also like you're forgetting the fucking premise you started out on anyway um well the premise is usually one of this makes a shit zillion dollars yeah i definitely have no comments on big franchises being left to date so perfect yeah that would yeah especially you know f0 is a weird franchise too because i think most f0 games sold pretty badly compared to the last ones so you would never want to make a game in which every friend every single game sold worse than the one before it for like eight maybe nine titles in a row that'd be

like a stupid investment shame about f0 though pregnant pause and we got one coming in from danny uh hey danny danny says dear woof all right and uh worst pats ever been longtime fan never got any questions in some time ago you two had a conversation about how much you prefer to see new characters be introduced over the return of series stalwarts while i by and large agree with you uh sometimes i do enjoy something i do enjoy from time to time is the check-in i'm a sucker for seeing what older characters are up to and well how life

has affected them you know after the credits roll for example like merrill and mgs4 various party members in mass effect or dragon age um it engages me and the thought exercise piecing together like how they wound up in these exact points that we see them in again um i guess the question is twofold like do you have favorite examples of the check-in and are there characters that and of these would you like to see them in the future uh yeah i mean i this is something that comes up quite a bit and i'm not i'm always i'm not the kind of i'm not gonna say like don't give me the old characters as much as i'm gonna say like please give time and breath for new things as well you know um it's possible to do both and

you know you can uh you can introduce a new generation while also like showing some cool time passage pull with the older generation the example that i always often go to is what mk10 did you know a really cool batch of new kids to to join the roster and some updated versions of the old cast as well pull with time and you're like awesome i like seeing both of these things and you know with uh street fighter six i've definitely been saying i'm like yeah i'd love to see updated mikoto but i also love new characters because you know after some time passes by the time that's a game is wrapping up those new characters are now beloved favorites as well so the irony of this is that uh my best examples for this concept are both games we have already

talked about today in witcher three you check in on dudes that you have not seen for fucking years and years and years either book characters that are relatively obscure or characters from witcher one that you are damn sure you are never gonna see again like hey man what's up with you and they'll just tell you what the fuck they were up to and it's great the other one and i can't say anything about it is mass effect two and three it's probably the strongest part of that game's characterization characterization the only one i can mention is hey rex you're not a party member in mass effect two what have you been doing what's up with you and so on and so forth it's great

right my example would be um feeling like getting into the one piece manga just because i knew that there were like these kinds of snippets in the manga that would never be shown in the anime like yeah defeated enemy characters what have they been up to sure to sort of um snippets like at the opening of each chapter in the manga they're remembered like getting into it because of that i did not know that was there that sounds cool yeah well that song will do that every once in a while he'll either do like uh fan requested pictures of whatever shit but also like every once in a while he'll catch up with older characters like that um i can't i'm not sure if there are any other manga cuts that really do that but that one came to mind um like we

are we've said many times before that we'd love to see a persona five arena game um because that'd be a lot of fun you know the p4 was a lot of fun as a fighting game as well but secondary to that is p4 arena was a really awesome way to check in on the persona three cast and see what they've been up to now that they're out of high school glad to see that junpei is not homeless sure you know like he figured it out they all kind of figured it out a little bit that's a really fun thing um and it would be great to see something similar with the p4 cast as well as the p5 kids are now in high school so um yeah absolutely you know give give give the check in and give space for uh for the new i've only had nago ryuki in my life for less than a year perhaps but if anything ever happened

to him i'd i'd fucking take everybody out wait that's not true it's been more than no no it's yeah what do you talk about either way nagos new and i love him i'm glad for you um good stuff cool yeah i yeah you know i had a follow-up on mass effect but i'm not going to well let's just leave that in the air no don't touch that nope no i won't say anything um what i will say is that i was uh i've been told to uh let you know that uh i was just thinking about how to play and one of the possibilities uh was considering how the the combat goes in one one of the possibilities i was considering was just going full-on soldier uh and uh leaving the biotics and tech up to the party members and just gunning it with the big heavy and the heavy armor and such um mass effect three

you really should play some kind of biotic class like you get to do all sorts of zany shit but in in one and two soldiers fine okay here's a warrant as much as you want three there's a there's a bunch of zany power stuff and it actually feels fun to play but i don't think the shooting in two is particularly good enough to really focus on any of the magic shit and i say this is somebody who played the vanguard in my last playthrough so it seems like i'm not in the end probably i might not might not go down that route especially considering like mods and such that might um be recommended for how i'm gonna play uh but it's nice to hear that like a heavy armor and such is not a thing anymore to worry about nor is the limited usage

of your powers and such so if that's oh it's wild when you play mass effect two and three you just get to see like wow they just chopped out like 40 percent of the game in terms of like stats and gear and all that nah fuck it gone it's a shooter now also uh i'm thinking about it uh the soldier class the the boring quote unquote soldier class uh is probably the strongest in all three games hmm just getting it at getting uh access to like a really good assault rifle is just excellent so anyway well like uh i think in the end i'm getting something different based on um again how some recommended mods are gonna play out and i'll describe that once i have a better understanding of it so far but uh yeah anyway cool uh all right i'm gonna say that was a

successful podcast um and i'm gonna say Ludwig thank you very much for coming on the podcast you were a great guest and i really appreciate you being here i've had fun on the podcast with you guys thanks for having absolutely um yeah no it's uh it's been my pleasure for sure um i will release you to the japanese summer heat it can claim your claim it can claim you now today seems fine it's weird having all of us being in three time zones because will you're going to bed right straight up triple time zoning you can you can see it it's fucking it's laid out here well you have a good sleep and everybody else have a good week bye everybody actually i'm going to edit the podcast right now so well yeah no i know that but i mean you're gonna sleep right

after all right