Castle Super Beast - CSB 182: Sugiyama's Quest! Episode 4: LGBT Who?

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 LET US frustrated just as much as we can. We have to get to know what a game is. Oh, it's the Dr hecho! We can turn this game off at once. Ok then. Really? You didn't... We can wrap it right away?
Starting point is 00:00:16 Yes. What do you mean? Oh, I won. I had to kunnen quá. It was longer than I thought I would have. Dziękuję, Governor あんで辛... So, should we start with Bioticle? I was thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 So apparently it's like a Lego toy that like the kids play with and it's like a Gundam, but like Legos. And there's characters and there's like a whole property and movies and stuff. Yeah. Um... So... Who am I to ignore a nice alley-oop whenever it's tossed up into the air, right? You know me.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm always down for that. It's a... It's a... It's a free one. However... Uh... I'm curious because... I have a thought on the matter, but I'm curious as to how it even...
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah, why are we talking about Bioticle? Oh, that's easy. I was looking at one of the... I was looking at the videos on the internet and there was one that was like a bunch of action figures and I thought it was somebody's cringe warhammer like skit video that was like some kind of goth eye hop thing. And I'm like, ah, whatever. And I skipped it. And everyone's like, you don't know what Bioticle's fucking is.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm like, I don't know. I think I might have heard the name once or twice, literally ever in my entire life. Okay. And... And I was like, did people know what this is? And then Paige looked at me like I was crazy. And then everybody said I was crazy. And I'm like, how am I supposed to know about these TV shows I never heard of?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Okay. Because, yeah, I assume that it must be an urgent situation when I'm getting texts about the situation at whatever point. However, I know about Bioticle because I grew up with Lego, played a bunch of it. And then I remember when I was growing older, they started introducing the Technic line of Legos, which was the more... I remember that. Though exactly, right? Those are towards the sort of the advanced, more complex ones. And then Technic eventually did evolve into the Bioticle, which is the whole like IP with characters and stuff behind it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Thing is though, and this is just the honest truth. By the point at which I would say you're up, you're, what year were you born? 86. 86. I'm 85. By the point at which that came out. 14 when this came out. We were on our way out of high school and going into college.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So the honest truth is the timeline of Bioticle not lining up with you makes perfect sense. I'm stepping in to say here, you are... What was the TV show? It makes perfect sense because my friends as well, everyone that I knew going up at that age was not... Bioticle was coming out as people were going into college, getting out of like toys and things like that. So the age difference of the 10 years between you and the people you're speaking to is going to make the difference there. I like how everyone's going nuts because you said 14, getting ready to leave in high school, go to college. Like you graduate from high school in Quebec at 17.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I was halfway through high school when I was 14 years old. But also, I vividly remember I had already stopped watching television at that age and had switched entirely over to bootleg VHS tapes and insanely long downloads off of like LimeWire and Taurus. I had to be perfectly honest with Paige and just go... And I was like, yeah, no, the timing of when that dropped was the mid-auts. In 2002 or so, I was graduating, going into college as well. That specific era of the era of me playing with Legos was like, you know, the 90s. And I remember the... Yeah, I stopped playing with Legos when I was like eight or nine.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Right. And then I remember in my teenage years, I saw ads for Technic, but I didn't get into it. But I saw it. I remember that was the thing. I was like, OK, they're getting into more advanced stuff. And there was a big race car that you could build, like an RC type thing, you know? And then by the time I started seeing the introduction of the brand that is Bionicle, I was off of TV already. It was just coming out as I was moving into like torrent life and cord cutting entirely.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So I feel like I feel like it's I feel like a lot of the blind spots that I've encountered where people are like, you don't know this are one, 10 years younger than I am. And two, I don't know how it is for the younger generation. But when I was at a certain age, if you were into like games or Japanese anime or whatever, you basically just gave up on television in your mid teens entirely. I haven't watched TV for real since I was like 12 years old. And thus there are a lot of blind spots. But that's like that's when the Naruto torrent started.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's essentially, you know, the last the last thing that I came, the last piece of TV that I came home and watched with my mom was 9 11. Now, like to put that in a context with people, but hold on. Everyone's doing it's not a TV show. But how would I have known about it had I not seen a commercial? I was not going to toy stores. I were talking with children about Lego. I I so I remember the TV commercials for Bionicle.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And I remember that was as I had. I was getting out of TV, essentially, right? So that's what I'm saying is like, you know, the unfortunate, less entertaining, boring, real answer is no. You were at the age where it makes sense, where you might not have heard about it, given the trajectories we've had. And if you were younger by about 10 years, which a lot of the people here are, it would be right in line with when you're when you would be playing with stuff, right? Because conversely, I assume it's like I assume that unless parents gave them their old Legos and passed it down or something, a lot of these folks didn't play with the older retro Lego sets that were from the early 90s that it wouldn't line up with you from that point.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You know, or the 80s. There's another part of this that we have to consider, which is the rampant, like the rampant confusion that happens every time one of these blind spots come up, which is how do you not know about this? And every single time I go, well, how do you how did you person I'm talking to find out about this thing? It is like, well, my friend told me this. And it's like, I didn't know anybody that was into it. And they go, well, I used to watch a guy on YouTube and he mentioned it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And it's like, I don't watch anybody on YouTube and never have ever. Yeah, no. And that's like, well, a streamer that I liked. Well, I don't watch anyone's streams ever, ever. And that's that's where it gets actually extra crazy where the actual more insane thing is that I need to the highest degree, but you also to some degree, I don't watch people's fucking streams or videos or YouTube channels or any ever. Now, there are times I didn't know about the GTA thing or the fucking. Well, now there are times when like just based on, I suppose, like the fact that what we do is focus on video games,
Starting point is 00:08:42 it makes it I will take the heat for something like PUBG, you know, sneaking up. Yeah, really. That was that. That's embarrassing. That's that's life. That's a horrible blind spot streaming like early access trash at random every couple of weeks, because I don't want the pulse. Yeah, big thing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But but I'm going to like the reasonable thing is just like, yeah, this is the methods, the avenues with which you would have heard about it don't exist and don't at that age and at that particular method of media consumption, right? And it's just and the thing is, of course, is that it's the same going backwards, right? Like I don't like drop your your 80s cartoon references, you know, if you would, and that's going to fly over heads. But some people might have heard, but probably haven't sat down and watched, I don't know, episodes of saber writers and the star sheriffs mask dino writers. Oh, jeez, fucking, you know what I mean? Like there's a point where you're like, yeah, you you're going to see a screenshot, maybe a YouTube video of a two minute
Starting point is 00:09:47 thing for it at one point. But yeah, I'm seeing folks say that there were trailers in in films. I don't remember ever seeing a bionicle trailer in a film. Yeah, see, so right off the bat, I say dino writers and people go, oh, you mean spider writers? And this is exactly the point. Well, let's let's take a look at those years. You know, I'm just going to be real with these things, man. Spider writers, I remember I was like probably my late like late teens to 20s, if not, and it was coming out on
Starting point is 00:10:22 Teletune, a channel that only existed when we were in like grade nine or so. It's the Teletune started. Yeah, right. So like it's the ultimate in like new age stuff. Yeah, 2006, 2007, right? That's so far into like us being like in our 20s at that point. The time period was if a bionicle came out in 2000, then I would have been too busy selling my classmates pirate PlayStation one games to to watch this.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And then in the once I went to say, Jeff, I was too busy watching people's entire binders of bootleg anime. So to fuck it. So here's the thing, right? Saber writers and the star sheriffs is too early for both of us. But that is because of my cousin and my older brother. I know about it through them. So that's more their lined up interest because that's 1987. That's two years after I was born, right?
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's like, why would I wake up and be be alive? And then the first thing I see is the same like this anime. That'd be crazy. So it's like you have to have something around you to either show you something slightly before your time or you got to have someone who's your peer showing or you got to be sitting down watching it yourself and taking that in. You know, I have a question though. Why why is why is the answer to me not knowing about a Lego spinoff toy anger?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Well, I mad. I mean, why mad about me not know about brand of toy. The the vibe I got was that Bionicle was really successful when Lego introduced it as a as a reintroduction of Lego to a new generation of kids, right? A Lego as a thing was just kind of like you little figures. You build them. You do stuff. You you have fun.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That's all there is to it. But like that was a particularly successful news thing that was introduced in the in the in the mid arts and it blew up. So, you know, now, if I'm not mistaken, they then they did things with that property. Was there not like animated? Was was there there's comics? Was there not a movie? There was a movie, right? I'm going to assume based on the intensity of the reaction.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, there was there was everything. Yeah, there was a lot of stuff. There was a 2016 show that came out. Okay, from a couple years ago. Yeah, I mean, it was very successful. You know, so Lego rebranded itself by that point. But for me, it was the suitcase full of random colored bricks and stuff that like my brother got and that was just kind of like inherited ultimately. And Twitter and Tumblr had a big Bionicle revival.
Starting point is 00:13:18 There you go. Okay, so that's it. It's just guys. It's just it's just an age generation thing. You know, there's stuff that's going to notch pop up to you. No, there's a detail. There's a detail. There's a detail that I didn't put together.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Somebody in that there was a Bionicle PS2 game that came out in 2003 that was bad. And I saw the cover and asked someone if that game was good and they told me it was not good. And then I imprinted the name that I now knew. I see. And went OK. And then went erase and just went no. Out of curiosity, I'm I'm I'm I like hands up if you heard about reboot from me as opposed to catching it on your own beforehand. And I just reminded you of it.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah, no, I knew you knew. I think I think what's really a shame is that everybody talk about Bionicle, but nobody talk about the all time classic, the littlest hobo featuring London, the dog. Oh, yeah, mystery. Oh, I mean, rural Ontario. You know, you've you've talked about that and they've heard about the littlest hobo and that everyone's freaked out at the name of that, certainly. But then you just kind of explain. Well, you just have to explain that it's Canadian Lassie. And then they go, OK, this is just Canadian Lassie.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Nothing too fancy about that. And then wishbone and I would probably say the the G Mod thing is still a bigger blind spot. But what? So what's that that was into? We're just just doing this. We're doing this again. No, not knowing about the existence of G Mod. Yeah, not knowing about the G Mod mods with the all that stuff and the people playing the G Mod.
Starting point is 00:15:11 We thought it was just the model poser. Right, right, right. Because I still remember it coming out and it was a model poser. And then I was like, OK, cool. Now I just never have to pay attention to this ever again in my entire life because I don't care about posing models. And then OK, yeah, it became big. Right. I remember that. But I didn't know anybody who that one was extra frustrating because like I didn't know anybody that played any of those games.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I ever and then when I every single person that I got a hold of and asked, like, well, how did you find out about this? They're like, oh, I watched so and so's videos on it and like, well, there's there's your solution. Unless it's an hour and a half long video essay about Hong Kong cinema or Tim Rogers going to the eye doctor. I don't I don't care to watch it. Well, I suppose here's the other reality of the situation. If we're going to be real, we have cultivated an audience that is into like the fact that we are into things that other people don't give a shit about, like Double May Cry three and what ranting about character action games and ranting about fucking, you know, during lag and end.
Starting point is 00:16:26 You tell what Silent Hill and all that stuff back in the day. Like you telling me that while other kids were playing with their Legos, we were studying the the blade. Yakuza and metal wolf chaos and like all of this shit that you guys are like, oh my God, they're they know about and or are into that stuff. Or you guys are finding out about it for the first time or you're peripherally like, holy shit, I can't believe someone's into that obscurity. That's also going to backfire from time to time when the Venn diagrams don't perfectly overlap and that there's going to be shit with age that just pushes that aside or just the big one for me often that I that I bring up a lot because it happens so much when I'm getting presented with stuff is the Canadian aspect to it, right? Oh, yeah, no, big Canada.
Starting point is 00:17:15 The Canada obviously I'm going to assume that this particular Lego brand was also in Canada in full force. Oh, for sure. For sure. But a lot of the fit, a lot of the times whenever something gets brought up that is like, oh, yeah, no, we didn't have that up here. Canada or even particularly even like Quebec or something, which is like, yeah, that was an American childhood thing. We didn't get that here. There's not much I can see that that meme going around that was like, thanks, Japanese games are better on ironically starter pack. And the first thing on the list is subscribe to these channels.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. And it's you, me, Matt, Max, Susie, I think a butter buns and Clemson. It's like, oh, oh, oh, fuck being super called out. Oh, God, I mean, in my head, it's, you know what, like the it's like it's this is an oversimplification. But in my head, you know what the trajectory is? It's grew up, got a Nintendo, got a Super Nintendo. Then, yeah, those were the formative games kept playing those games and and things like that as the generations went on didn't get into didn't get into first person shooters didn't get into RTS is as much kept playing the things that were Nintendo
Starting point is 00:18:35 and Super Nintendo platforming action third person. That's kind of the simple line. It's it's oversimplified. It's not reality. But that's what that's what it feels like. I saw a really great comment about this was like, I can't wait for woolly played Halo in 2021 Madden to talk to Pat about not knowing what old media was. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And I'm like, yeah, that's that's totally fucking perfect. Perfect. Dead on motherfucker. I just finished dead space. That game came out in 2000. You know, that's the point. Like I have I have my interests. You guys like showed up hearing about those particular interests.
Starting point is 00:19:22 That was the sphere. And then the other stuff I kind of I have a ton of blinders up about, you know, that's it. Absolutely. Did you see the lack of knowing it's just a difference between not knowing versus like just not caring about it. You know, did you see that in at the Gamescom they had a booth for retro games and rock band was like the biggest game at the retro games thing. That's and people took damage. And then it was pointed out that we're farther away from rock band one now than like Super Mario was when rock band came out.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah. And I'm like, oh, no. Yeah. That's it's horrifying. Retro no longer means 2D sprites. Fourth generation means Atari and sprites and shit. Fourth generation and below for me is retro. But that's not what it is anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:17 You know, so yeah. And and all the the final fantasy one, right? You know, the what was it the distance between one and ten versus ten and now and what you think it means when you whatever that means was I forget. But anyway, yeah, so no, just clearing the air on that. It's extremely reasonable and normal given your your age bracket, your your and and surroundings, you know, and then when you're on the Internet now, the beginning of that Internet age, that's where everyone just branches and goes into unique directions because whatever the fuck you were doing, like I gave up on TV and I got it was and I was watching those
Starting point is 00:21:06 like I said, anime torrents and Mugen, you know what I mean? I was deep in that hole. And then just yeah, well, looking up whatever fighting game to stuff and old footage of, you know, arcade arcade machines in Japan and just like I was going down that and that's a whole unique Internet. I need to watch that man's cafe. Watch 144p videos off of Lime Wire of guys playing Third Strike Q real good. I don't have time to learn about none of this. That's it, man.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You know, that's it. So that's you guys just never forget that that's what you're that's what you signed up for. That's what is that's what's going on here is the world of obscurity. And then there's going to be more value, though, as we get big older and like the PS2 becomes an unknown era and we're like, oh, I remember the PS2. What a bunch of cool games on there. Did you know the the the buttons had analog sensitivity? Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Well, I mean, just give it a second and you'll see that all these folks that are like, nah, man, my childhood was Crash Bandicoot are going to meet a bunch of people that are like, fuck that. My childhood was Fortnite and Brawlhalla and they're going to they're going to die inside when those kids go like, what the fuck is Crash Bandicoot? You know, you just slide it along a little bit. Yeah. Wait for the damage. It'll sink in.
Starting point is 00:22:43 We're well past the Minecraft kids. That's already had come and come and gone, you know. Saw a tweet just like 10 minutes ago that was like if a fortnight had come out in 2008, you'd see like Haruhi Suzuzima dropping bombs on Goku right now. And I'm like, yeah, no, that's that's probably accurate. Haruhi. Shit. Ichigo would absolutely be bankying.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah, 100 percent. Well, anyway. Well, this this this is a great way to segue into me talking about gigantic gigantic blind spots in media as I was talking to my wonderful wife, Paige, and we were talking about the shit zillion movies that she has seen that likes that I have not seen. And so we watched James and the Giant Peach yesterday. Oh, which I had never seen nor read the book. So I was not spoiled by the children's book for the movie.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Um, I think I saw that. I think I watched it on a day where I watched like four different movies in a row. Um, yeah. So I don't really have all that much to say. It's a very charming, like very pointed towards kids movie. It's after a road doll book. The plot's not nothing to sneeze at. What is something to sneeze at is the absolute out of fucking control clay animation.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, the absolute most out of like we're going to just clay animate the absolute shit out of this on what looks like on ones instead of on twos. It's absurd. It's disgusting. Um, it's the like I'm watching it. I'm like, oh man, I wonder if they're going to make the the the fucking grasshopper jump because it's such a pain in the ass to make a clay animated character jump. And as they're like doing backflips and jumping around each other and swinging on things like,
Starting point is 00:24:52 oh my fucking God back when it was. Oh man, back when it was acceptable to just watch these people like kill themselves with precision and you just take the entire movie budget and you just give it to three guys in a room with a light and some and some rope, you know, to do if you thought any like that is one of the the definite definite heralds of really good claymation Kubo and the two strings. Have you ever seen that? I have not seen the Kubo that is it's them.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's the best looking claymation thing I think I've seen and I don't know like it's also a ridiculous proposition with modern budgets. So I don't know if you're ever going to fucking see anything come along and go that hard again. But it was made in a time that was past claymations like feasible Hollywood budget era. And yeah, way past that was relatively recent, right? And it was made to prove a point essentially about the medium. It's it's ridiculous if you do ever go see it. It is ridiculously well animated.
Starting point is 00:26:03 So yeah, James and John Peach. Good movie next on the list. Excuse me. Stop motion. Focus, focus. Not claymation. That middler. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah, lady. Yeah, yeah, right. The three witches. The horse lady that has all the sex on the city. What's her? I fucking can't remember her name. I my brain is literally auto completing it to horse woman. So I want to say that I saw that movie via ignoring it
Starting point is 00:26:31 while it played in a substitute teacher's classroom. Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh, oh, perfect. That's great. Someone brought a wheeled in the VHS and pressed play and we just kind of ignored it while we had a free period. But Pat, I didn't see a hocus pocus. I didn't have a childhood.
Starting point is 00:26:48 What movie did we hear that even come out 93? Why the fuck would I watch that shit when I was seven? That bet middler in it. Yeah, that I think for, you know, you know, the the nightmare before Christmas, goth girl. Yeah, I remember her. So hocus pocus for a decent amount of of them. They've that's an establishing.
Starting point is 00:27:27 That's an establishing part. That's part of that's part of the pipeline. That's part of the pipeline. Yeah, I see. I see. I should probably watch that, huh? I mean, you don't have to, but you could. You can, but it's like, I don't know, man, like you can go back
Starting point is 00:27:45 and watch that or you can go watch fucking a carousel movie or yeah, I could. Or the good, the bad and the ugly, you know, but I'm worried that I'm worried that the Kingdom Hearts will have spoiled me on the nightmare. Like I don't know, man. Yeah, um, I do appreciate that people are going back to that now because the red letter did a little like, Hey, let's talk
Starting point is 00:28:15 about the the good, the bad and the ugly. And so like people are like, oh yeah, let's go watch it. And I remember I was like, I had a moment back in that era of not watching TV anymore in early college when I went, fuck it. I'm just going to go rent a bunch of stuff from movie land, which is downtown and they had like, I'm just going to go rent classics and go find out for myself. What's the big deal with Casablanca?
Starting point is 00:28:37 What's the big deal with, you know, a raging bull, everything that was a classic that people talked a lot about. And yeah, no, like here's, here's where I'm at, right? Yeah, like I, I, I of all the movies that we've been talking about, I haven't seen any of them, any of the ones you just mentioned have it, but I can tell you right now that fucking a multi the Maltese Falcon fucking sucks. I fucking can't stand the Maltese Falcon.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I can tell you that a bridge too far is real slow. The bridge on the River Kwai is way better. Dirty dozens pretty good where Eagles dare is pretty good. If only because Clint Eastwood being a World War two movie. Let me guess. Strange. Is that your dad? Yeah, it's what whatever dad would have on the TV on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, is the movie that I watched. Right. I saw every James Bond movie like four times and you know what you would think that would mean that I don't remember what they're like. No, that means I don't remember what they're like at all because every single James Bond movie is the same fucking movie over and over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah. Well, I didn't have that so I had to go make my own dad movie playlist and there's some good shit out there, but she got to find it. Citizen Kane. Yeah, pretty good. Citizen Kane is like really insanely dry, but like even now you can look back on it like oh that that shot with the window
Starting point is 00:30:17 outside that probably blew people's fucking minds. Doctor Strange Love. Like that that's fucking that was ridiculous. It was hilarious when I like I remember popping that in. I was like, yeah, that's funny that I get it. Absolutely absurd. But but I don't know how it hold up, but I remember at the time it was it was just great.
Starting point is 00:30:42 You know what's one that you did see that we like have talked about while blazing saddles, right? Yes. So like that was like oh cool. Okay, you caught that one as well. That's just hilarious. That's that you know, there's a bunch of pieces here and there that do overlap, but all this to say that like if you're going
Starting point is 00:31:01 to sit down and pop in something like I mean, I guess you can go watch Hocus Pocus or there's some really good shit that you can also catch up on. It's so no, here's here's the way that it works. Me and Paige have this thing where I go. Oh wow, I can't believe you haven't seen this movie and she goes, I can't believe you haven't seen this movie because that's what there's a lot of movies out there.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Okay. And here's the way it works. I say a movie that I want to watch and then we watch the movie that she wants to watch and then the next time it comes up. I'm like, oh, what about the one I wanted to watch and then she says, I don't want to watch that one. We're going to watch the movie that I want to watch and then that continues for about 10 movies.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Nothing. That's right. So I'm really excited to watch Hocus Pocus. Okay, there you go. Now we can move forward in time and just hit some obvious points, but have you seen Shawshank Redemption? Yes, I have. It's a very good movie.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Okay. I've seen Shawshank Redemption like a weird amount of times because it would show up on like like Fox Buffalo, like a fucking license free over and over for like three years. I don't know if you remember, but like one day randomly in college, I was just like, you know what? I saw Heat on DVD and I just bought it because I'm like, I heard about this movie.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I heard this is a good one. Well, Al Pacino and and and. Oh, um, and, uh, uh, uh, yeah, but fucking what you call it, uh, the brain stupid. The other guy Pacino and De Niro together. And I'm like, okay, let's see it. And I watched it. It was fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And I came back and I remember specifically walking back into the club spaces and going, have you guys seen Heat? Holy shit. What a good movie they're like. So here's great. So do you know what my, you know what? You don't want to hear how fucking out of touch I am. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Here's my personal knowledge of Heat. One, I do remember that specific day you coming back in and saying that Heat is really good. Two, Jeff Gershman and Ryan Davis talking about how that one scene in Heat is weirdly dated because they're sitting at a kitchen table with a tiny television. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yes. And three, it apparently has really good gun audio, which is why they made the payday games. Ah, okay. That is what I know about Heat. I mean, I've heard about the diner scene, you know, for a while. Um, so that was like pre preemptive to it and then you see it and it's like, oh, that shit's iconic.
Starting point is 00:33:57 There's so many moments of just like fucking, you know, a TV to go, turning the car around, all of that's such a fucking great. You know, and then the, of course, the classic detective too married to the job to save his own marriage. You know, right? I got four bodies. Whatever, you know, waiting on the corner, mystery murders. Sorry if the chicken got dried out.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It's great. And I, um, you know, my favorite thing is is when people do Pacino impressions of things you don't know, they just sound insane. Yes. You just sound like a fucking crazy person. Well, here's the perfect. Here's the perfect next line to that is you hear about all those
Starting point is 00:34:46 things and the impressions and so on. Eventually I go and I watch Scarface and I see what that's about and I go, oh shit. Okay. Yeah. No, but, uh, Scarface was very different. So I did see Scarface way back for curiosity's sake. And I was like, wow, this is an extremely different movie
Starting point is 00:35:03 than what I had been led to believe by pop culture. Yes. There's a lot of there's a lot of movies where that happens actually, but, um, you get the high super like current Pacino like parodying himself and he became a person in that movie that is that screaming caricature. But, uh, Jay-Z's black album drops. The song Allure is on it in it.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Pharrell and him are making reference to Carlitos way. I'm like, oh, I've heard about Carlitos way. Let's go watch that. That's another old fucking Pacino. And in it, it's like he's young and quiet and has a completely different voice and he's talking like a normal person. He's not screaming at the top of his lungs. He's not the Pacino monster at all.
Starting point is 00:35:49 He hasn't yet become that. The Dunkachino. He's not the Dunkachino because he's still Michael Corleone. You know, and that's the thing is there's an, and there's a moment where he goes from Michael Corleone into Scarface and then he just locks into Scarface and stays that way for the rest of time. I'm just, I'm just now personally remembering who I like the
Starting point is 00:36:11 absolute most meteoric nuclear take that I ever go for. And I can feel it bubbling up, which is you mentioned the Godfather, which I've never, ever, ever sought out to watch. And then it always, whenever I say it's that it always boils down to, but, but you saw good fellas, right? I'm like, yeah, I watched most of good fellas with my dad once and I was fucking miserable because I hated every single person on the screen.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And I was like, why don't you just all fucking shut up and go to hell? Oh, but casino though. Yeah, no, same fucking thing. God, I can't fucking stand fucking mob movies. They're so annoying. I mean, at this point, the Godfather is just a hate watch so that you can come back and yell about how awful it was.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Really? Cause it's the spite is not even interesting. That's not even interesting. Okay. Well, they're good pieces of film. They're, they're enjoyable. I don't know what to tell you. Um, I, I disagree and, uh, I enjoy them and I also enjoy
Starting point is 00:37:17 the Sopranos. I thought that was, that was pretty fun to watch. So what do you want me to tell you? What's wild is that I'll watch crime fiction about any other area other than Jersey, New York or Vegas, but it's like it's their shit people. You're not watching it because you're like, oh man, look at these heroes.
Starting point is 00:37:37 They're dirt back pieces of shit and you're, you're spookling them in their shit lives. That's the point. That's why it's so entertaining. Oh, it's absolute garbage. You know. Anyway, um, yeah, like the departed was the crime thing, but it was funny because they were Irish and then they
Starting point is 00:38:00 played the Irish music while they were being Irish and doing crime. They drop kick Murphy their way through the crime scenes. It was, there you go. Yeah. And that was great, but you know what else was great? Infernal affairs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You can just go back and watch that watching one of them. I forget which one it was and just a guy pulls out a gun and just ice is three people for no reason and you just had a conniption going, that dude's cops. Yeah, man, those are those are fun movies. The movies that departed was based on, you know, so anyways, it's just, it's just whenever you take a moment to decide and go back and fill in a blank, you know, in terms of the
Starting point is 00:38:55 classics. I tell you what, if you want to, if somebody wants to send me a full version of good fellas and or the Godfather where every character on screen at all times is just like spinning a pizza, some pizza dough above their hand, and there's just a really soft like in the background. Like met, you know what? Maybe those are good movies.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Maybe, but you know, maybe, but you know, like what's it's but what's funny is that in both Sopranos and in Godfather, what's awesome about exactly what you're describing is that both of those feature really important moments of the Italian American going back to Italy and just going, I don't know where I am or how any of this works. No, no, it's a totally different and like being hit with that thing of like, yeah, whatever the fuck you are is
Starting point is 00:39:55 some other shit. You're not us, you know, and that's a really like and that's a really like, oh, oh, moment for them. You know that they they actually zoom in on that. So I remember I knew a kid in high school who of course was named Big Tony because his brother was a twin and that was Lil Johnny unironically and they took a they took a family trip to Italy to visit some some like some relatives and
Starting point is 00:40:27 they came back going, oh, it's not what I thought was going to be like it was really weird. I didn't I didn't like I don't know why they thought they would fit in speaking no Italian at all and being from like fucking shadow gay in Quebec. You know, it's and the thing is too is I suppose it's a bit like music, right? Like think of all the hair metal bands and like even before
Starting point is 00:40:54 that shit like Woodstock era shit that you are like indoctrinated to and supposed to know via osmosis. But yeah, if you didn't have anyone in your life that was particularly pushing any of that your way, you just have to kind of go seek it out yourself or not care about it. And as someone who just grew up with no one in my life that was really introducing me to any of that that kind of that music, I'm just like, OK, I've got my my family and my cousins
Starting point is 00:41:26 and that's black music and then there's gospel coming from church and then there's my own interests that are just like seeking out whatever is, you know, like whatever current nerdy shit. Yeah, but I only really started like hearing and getting exposed to a lot of that stuff with Guitar Hero one. Oh, absolutely. If people are actually curious where my I hate music music
Starting point is 00:41:51 sucks shit comes from, it comes from the fact that there were literally only two bands that ever played in my house at any time throughout my entire life. One was the Beatles and the other was Sarah McLachlan. Yikes. You could probably guess which parent was attached to which. Yikes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Therefore all all new music like pointed my way was either through my older brother, which meant Metallica and only Metallica or fucking Limewire fucking DBZ. Music videos, which is where I found out about Lincoln Park. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. No, it's it's it's not and that's not uncommon. Like there's there's a lot of people in the game are era that
Starting point is 00:42:38 you know, OK, Guitar Hero one drops and you you're like, holy shit, bark at the moon, holy shit, black Sabbath, holy shit, bang Camaro and Wolf Mother and all that shit. That was, you know, like, oh, wow, these are good. Right. And then the same effect for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games. Right. No, that's where I heard most of the new bands of my youth for
Starting point is 00:43:01 the first time, which was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. Absolutely. The genre covering in that from, you know, just from the Scott of metal to rap and, you know, like just all kinds of shit in between was a really big eye opener for a ton of people of that age. So yeah, it's if you don't have somebody that's going to just like sit you down and show you the ropes, then then
Starting point is 00:43:23 that's all you get. You know, I got lucky. I've talked about it before that a friend of mine was like, yo, I'm going to mix you a rage against the machine mix tape and you're going to listen to this shit and you're going to be into them. And I'm like, yep, done. Sold.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Got it. And that did the trick. Yeah. OK. You know. Well, anyway, so it's it works the same for music. You know, I got to say, I'm going to actually going to make it fairly serious for a second.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Apologies, Willie, out of all of the jokes that we ever had from the old channel, the Pat had no childhood joke is the one I viciously hate the most and would ask to not be made politely because the answer is, yeah, no, my childhood absolutely sucked ass and was horrible and I missed out on tons of shit and I regret it. So when he will go, oh, I had no childhood. You didn't hear about this music.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah. No, I didn't. It sucks. Well, hopefully funny. Hopefully when exposed to said new music and or new experiences, it sounds cool to you and you like it. Absolutely. As opposed to just, you know, like give it a chance to work
Starting point is 00:44:43 its way in and see if it sticks. And I want to say that for me as well, like Beatles, I had a friend that was really into Beatles that like kind of would play it a lot at her place and I heard about that. Man, it's it's like they have like 400 songs and like there's like six that sound any different. I started again as someone who didn't hear a lot of Beatles growing up at all.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I eventually did start to hear more and then when again Beatles rock band came out and it's like, oh, shit, I like these. These are some good tracks. Let me go look back and I went through the catalog after the fact and then really warmed up to it. You know, there's always got to be an inception source for that. But I wasn't overexposed to it and burnt out on it by that point, right?
Starting point is 00:45:32 But I mean, if you fucking want to play some Kirk Franklin or the African Christian Children's Choir, you can bet your ass I'm fucking dead inside exhausted of that. Are those good? Are those are the are they good? They were catchy until I fucking until they dead in the hole inside of me. But I will still I will still stand up for a cappella, which
Starting point is 00:45:59 is just super. Well, you know, like a cappella is in like where in the world is Carmen San Diego? Like that style shit. They they did. There was a whole like Christian group of that and they have some really nice sounding music that I stand by to this day. But dear God, you know, I saw I saw somebody mention something
Starting point is 00:46:18 similar about Christmas music. I don't I can't even hear Christmas music anymore. Like it's just it's just auto filters through my mind out into just white noise. I literally like the fucking from fucking August 31st in the fucking store just fucking turn it on and just leave it on until the fucking end of January. It's so it's it's it's it's so unfortunate because it's like
Starting point is 00:46:48 think about how Christmas music has been like a cultural thing for most of the century and caroling was a thing and to everybody it elicit. It's supposed to elicit these feelings of like all the seasons here and for a bunch of people it still does. But for anyone who's ever worked in retail and the modern era of what retail is that didn't exist in any previous generation that entire genre is annihilated, annihilated immediately.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It does. It does unironically trigger some kind of fight or flight response when I see like Mariah Carey at this point because on every every every dumbasses fucking playlist for some reason they'd have like 30 different songs but you need to put the Mariah Carey song in there six times. So that you know even if it's on shuffle you're definitely going to get it.
Starting point is 00:47:40 In case someone's running into the store for a quick pickup they got to hear that for sure. I saw I saw a picture of Mariah Carey in a giant ice cube earlier today with the caption she's defrosting. Like God damn it. I mean she's built a fortune on that fucking like it you know why wouldn't you just become that person. Oh 100% yeah easy.
Starting point is 00:48:05 But yeah James the giant peach is good. Okay forward to fucking with hocus pocus. Sure if you do get a chance to catch Kubo and the two strings for just if you want to watch some stop motion excellence. That's the final stop on the train. I should probably watch the Isle of Dogs before that because it has dogs in it. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I mean did you like a fantastic Mr. Fox. I don't know did I oh boy. Okay well that one's good too. We can do this literally all yeah yeah yeah. If you like a fantastic Mr. Fox is really good and then after that go watch Isle of Dogs for a similar vibe.
Starting point is 00:48:54 In fact I would say that Isle of Dogs is like built on the vibes of Fantastic Mr. Fox so I think you should watch that first. I think yeah because I feel like if you went backwards you would probably appreciate it less. So okay do that. Anything else and yeah keep it going because I got I got I'm going to change my shirt.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Oh you're gonna change your shirt. Oh okay it's hot but I can still hear you go ahead. Oh it's hot witcher witcher pray 2017 now I've talked about all those games at length not all that much going on over here. I pet the dog a bunch. He's he's cute. People are screaming for Guild Wars 2. I did not get a chance to check out Guild Wars 2.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I probably should go and take a look just for academics sake because like I wonder how that's changed and I haven't played Soul Hackers 2 either. How's my island doing? I man I didn't even I haven't even gone in that island. I have to make too much crafting food way too much to go on
Starting point is 00:50:15 now. To the anybody who's wondering Ultra Kill will be this week on Thursday. Are you enjoying your new shirt sir? I am. It's got Gail on it. But yeah I know it's been a relatively relatively simple week.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I mean I'm going through Prey again. I'm still going through witcher nothing nothing jump out at anyone for newness. The most interesting thing was of course the fact that I haven't watched any movies in my life apparently. In fact all the movies I could tell you I watched none of you have ever heard of. Well okay.
Starting point is 00:50:57 If you want to see a bunch of shit this week go down to twitch.tv slash past stairs at the only weird lead time stream this week is the Dead by Daylight one which will be at 9 in the morning Pacific. Wesker is coming out tomorrow so I have to do that. It's mandatory. But I'm doing it at early in the morning so that if certain someone wants to stream in the evening they absolutely can.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Okay over on this side really short of the nation funny you mentioned you've so you checked out Prey I checked out Prey as well which Prey Prey the movie man the disambiguation page on that thing must be the worst just the worst video game movie anything else video game video game movie okay so when I'm streaming Prey I'm literally putting in the title Prey 2017 instead of Prey 2008 I see okay and definitely not watching the movie Prey 2022 yes bracket year.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's awesome it's really good I like it a lot very very simple and solid in in that you know it's it's a fucking it's a predator franchise movie and you get what you're hoping for and it also does a really good job of like because like I watched it with punch bomb and kind of just did a summary of predator one and two and you know like a three minutes type of thing just to catch up because it's like here's what it is there's a monster comes from space and there's rules once
Starting point is 00:52:51 you learn the rules you can you know kind of deal with or whatever but for the most part it's it's just a big old tech monster that's coming to haunt you it's coming to coming to haunt you if you're strong and then whatever so yeah the so Prey is very like it's it's definitely because it's so much about like it's simple and like you're just watching scene to scene of like how the actions going down and like you know the the the it's not going to spend too much time on scenario
Starting point is 00:53:32 and set up and such it just kind of like establishes things and then kind of moves into it there's it's one of these things where it's like less I say the better which unfortunately is kind of becoming the case in common with a lot of these movies and and if you do get a chance to see to be fun to talk about but it's really fun in like going into it whether if you don't know anything about predator you can learn the rules as you watch it and if you do you can
Starting point is 00:53:58 kind of be like others that thing and yeah okay cool you know knowing about the the actual race and and stuff you can kind of kind of look at it and go like okay so have you seen the trailer for this for example I have okay so you're looking at it's like it's like a kid is a set and you know very long time ago and 1715 60 something way back way back when and you know you're like okay so like what are they dealing with and how are they going to deal with it and such
Starting point is 00:54:29 and it's knowing that like something that you kind of get from the future knowing that you get something from the future assist parts of the franchise is that like the more tech and armor a predator has the more advanced it is the more it's done the more it's accomplished so like even though you're going to far back in time if this is a very basic early nearly naked predator showing up like that's your only real shot at it versus anything else that would come along and be fully
Starting point is 00:55:05 well get it out you know I mean if you're going by a predator movie logic so I haven't seen the new one but I have seen most of the others by most predator movie logic the most consistently way to kill your hyper advanced super alien is to throw a big tree at it or hit it with a big rock rather than shoot it with your gun if you stab it with your sword yes well if you can if you can break all of its gear and get it down to you know brass tacks and have a good old slobber
Starting point is 00:55:37 knocker battle with it then just been dropped a big old tree on it but that doesn't always work and and such so anyway yeah it's you know it's a pretty solid setup that again like doesn't you don't have to wait you don't waste too much time on how and where it fits in and such but I'm God I yeah I don't want to spoil anything but I recommend it it's pretty good and it's a very different vibe I'll say this it's a very different vibe from say predators which you know was
Starting point is 00:56:17 like about a ragtag group trying to survive which is kind of like aliens for example it's about your you know your your single survivor a Cherokee lady trying to try to make it with her and her dog and you know what that's a good dog I bet dog puts in work trying to think they're having like yeah and mostly others if not all the other excuse me like not Cherokee Comanche my bad rock didn't have no dogs attack in the predator
Starting point is 00:56:59 I don't know but can't think of one now let me ask you a question willy now when the predator went down to haunt the Comanche back in 1715 was it looking for new sources of delicious delicious autism to harvest I don't understand what I love I love that you don't understand so Shane Black when he wrote the new predators movie that took place in the modern times it's he retconned it so that the predators were
Starting point is 00:57:39 in fact hunting humans to search for the autism because that's the next stage in human evolution that's canon you can't undo it I oh yeah no type it in type it in I swear to God yeah yeah look it up all right yeah are you talking about are you talking about the predator you talk about predators I'm talking about the predator the predator okay I didn't predator
Starting point is 00:58:22 I didn't see the predator no yeah me either looks like we dodge that one wow okay yeah um boy I was super confused by what the fuck you were talking about for a second there but yeah I bet everyone in the movie theater was confused too when that plot point came up well in any case this was a good one so that doesn't that doesn't come out
Starting point is 00:58:53 doesn't occur here doesn't occur here good good good and there is a there's a whole lot of there's one scene that like that bugs me that is similar to kind of what bugs me in one division and it's just a there's a there's at least there's one moment of your protagonist taking out like a room full of people and you're just like come on like that's that's a very difficult feet to pull off and if you do pull it off I want to believe in you I really do so like give me like absolute ridiculous
Starting point is 00:59:39 exhaustion and limping and like just you know like which is why I fuck like I love vagabond because when like wild shit like that happens like you take out a whole lot of people in a row you're almost fucking dead because of it like out of breath so that one when you say that it makes me think of true detective season one and Tom young gong where in the big long shot action scenes the main character is visibly fucked up and like and like screwing up the acting portion of the
Starting point is 01:00:14 fights because they're so tired old boy absolutely like I want to believe in what you're showing when the main character is taking out a bunch of people but just I need to see them fucked up as a result of it you're not that good for that much when full like it's just come on you know like it needs the way it's toll on you after a certain I mean you you did you did a boxing training for a while and I did a little bit of combat sports in high school and everyone who's done
Starting point is 01:00:45 anything of that or pro sports or anything is like wow three minutes is a long time. Yeah. A little exhibition of a couple rounds is more than enough to end you much less going the distance and like fucking 10 or 12 so you can't I just every time I see a moment like that and I'm like okay who's this character how dangerous are they you know are you just the supreme badass that you know are you Tony jaw or are you old man getting out of a box and at the bottom of a building you
Starting point is 01:01:19 know and in this case you're kind of like yeah okay you have the ability to do this but it should take everything out of you you know but whatever it's a minor it's a minor little just you have to buy into it as you're watching you know it's it's funny and it's it's a minor aside that I just want to go into for a second since I'm playing through which are one it is one of those things that really stands out about the protagonist of those games and that Geralt doesn't want to be
Starting point is 01:01:50 in his own game and is resentful of the quest that he has to do throughout the game and it's just kind of done with it on almost every level like almost professor Leighton level of all you need to get me this is like yeah okay sure go fine fuck it like my favorite elements that your protagonist can have which is that they don't want to do it at all the call to adventure hits them and they go absolutely done yeah Castlevania season one yeah maximum reluctance to save the
Starting point is 01:02:32 day yeah absolutely I don't want to do it yeah so I mean yeah I feel like some of that like so that that's sort of like I guess like in that that that type of attitude which is also like there's like the sarcasm of like Spider-Man and shit like that that you know is like a fun thing to see when you're reading it as a comic and stuff it was also what was kind of initially enjoyable about the like let's say Firefly style dialogue and then into MCU style stuff but then when you
Starting point is 01:03:20 fast forward 20 years it's like okay it doesn't it doesn't have the same effect it used to anymore because it's no longer oh my god is this really how I can use freaking magic oh wow that's crazy what so that happened you know I want to point out that like it's it's really common to be like this is very old and cringe but I want to point out that the phrase so that happened was cringe the day it happened like the first time I heard that in my life was like on the WB and it had
Starting point is 01:04:03 some fucking vapid blonde was telling someone about their fucking tampon falling out into the river and then a duck eating it and like just no oh yeah I think a lot of that stuff perhaps not that that was a weird story to invent my I don't know I'm just that's why I just moved right along I'm used to it anyway I feel like a lot of that was enjoyable in its novelty and it's why certainly I enjoyed it in its in its heyday but yeah once it once it starts becoming predictable
Starting point is 01:04:47 and played out it becomes less interesting so the call to for better writing is is is always there and that's what you're what what I'm reminded of when we talk about how currently we're like oh man tired bore burnt out super done protagonist is a fun vibe that's like yes until you see it too much relatable but until it happens too much and then we fast forward a decade and then we're like oh my god we've seen enough of this reluctant hero thing can we go but you know
Starting point is 01:05:18 and then I suppose that's when you got to do the fucking cycle and and and all star Superman or whatever we killed that kid we killed that kid Morty we shot him we shot him with our gun Morty have you seen these fucking clips I saw that clip isn't isn't it just fucking painful is it like dude perfect example first time season one watching Rick and Morty this shit is hilarious it's a really funny fucked up show right move forward
Starting point is 01:05:56 in time and then obviously the audience gets its hands on it and then pickle Rick kid in the McDonald's and you're just like oh dear god this is the worst pickle where can the McDonald's really just right for everyone and then the vibe which is which is funny because he was making fun of the brick and white of course sure you know but like you know succeeded intensely way too way too way too strongly and then of course the analysis that it's like oh Rick and Morty
Starting point is 01:06:23 appeals to people that think they're smarter than everyone in society and that's the best the nihilism is no longer going to ever talk to anyone about Rick and Morty God damn it I still do I still do just out of curiosity want to see the rest of like where that goes so I should probably finish season two or three at some point just to see it and now that there's been distance as well because I feel like it's gone from being everywhere to being pretty it's pretty
Starting point is 01:06:49 quiet again except he's dropping in multi versus now but yeah the high IQ Rick and Morty fan base stuff is such fucking my God but anyway and then but but at that point and then we come back around and yeah I see the new game see the like oh you shot the kid you did it are you happy thing and you're just kind of like well that is the said that's that's yeah no I know you know I know that's the vibe it's Morty voice I know thinking of the Rick and Morty is for smart
Starting point is 01:07:18 people has the exact same as the exact same feeling of disgust in my chest as the guy who's saying like I'm a woman's ally because I jerk off to women with muscles we're not the same freak and like okay whatever dude okay okay that's going wild yours I will I will that's that's a that's a that's a bad vibe so no to that however I will unapologetically call people cowards who talk shit about oh that's how I'm referring to I will I will unapologetically call you a
Starting point is 01:07:58 fucking coward yes no that's some weird shit but anyway I bet you now that like there's less fucking peripheral noise I'm gonna sit and watch and see whatever Rick and Morty seasons two and three or whatever and it'll probably be pretty funny it'll probably be there probably be some some shit that I'll be like that's pretty good that second season is really good okay yeah I just you know I just I like to enjoy something apart from the noise
Starting point is 01:08:30 but anyway what else is there oh yeah I guess there is is that is that does that coming is that coming from a she-hulk thing no okay but I sure cuz that's going on now is why I know that the one the one that the one that I the one that the where got really bad was when Lady D was coming out and there
Starting point is 01:09:00 were freaks portraying that I love Lady D and that's how I can show you how fucking progressive I am because she's big isn't that crazy and I'm just like you're you just have a giant test fetish you fucking weirdo just this isn't a fucking moral fucking triumph progressive like the big lady you fucking freak like stop it stop it there's only one what there's only one moral thing we can go
Starting point is 01:09:32 one or up or down with the fucking fetishes and that's to mock the feet people and that's it and the skeleton freaks my my preferred method is to slander and libel people who are not into feet as feed lovers yeah that's just hit it right on him well you know why you know why because it doesn't work the other way around you can't take a foot person and be like they're a defeat because
Starting point is 01:10:09 then they're going to start salivating because you said the word feet no good anyways okay so pray was good yeah okay go check that out do it and then finished that space one also you did it also very good. Um enjoyed has a good final boss for a survival horror game
Starting point is 01:10:37 yeah wow no I was a fun sequence I mean honestly every boss in that game was was solid I had no problems going through it. We talked about z-ball being a little bit odd but admittedly I found out later there's better ways to play that but yeah no I just that's a solid experience that holds up and you know NPCs people you meet creeps lore assholes people to hate people to trust people to betray all kinds of you know all kinds of ups and downs but but what's fun and always great
Starting point is 01:11:20 to see as well and this is like it's fun because I expect it but with both this and Mass Effect with Reggie the sci-fi setting gets introduced and like in my head it's like count down until the hyper capitalist dystopia of space starts bleeding through and showing you that this is the root of the problem if not the accentuator to the current the kerosene to the fire you know for the game starts in dead space yeah exactly exactly that's what the comics are all
Starting point is 01:11:56 about so when when it starts to go bad and they're like put the marker back they're like no but the all the money so that's the fun that's the thing is marker back like you right off the bat you get the horror and in doom as well of the just the insane cultist religious ridiculous like we're all going to die and that's awesome sacrifice yourself to the greater hierarchy the new flesh is taking over and those are just like oh yeah just waste every one of those
Starting point is 01:12:26 people on site like you're you got to go you know there's you're there's no rational actors here you you want us to die and that's as good a reason as any to take it to you and then though you go reading through logs and you go through codex is in in in both in you know in what which whatever the setting may be you always got to find out through the pause screen story telling time that there is a massive bankroll behind that initiative and that essentially around
Starting point is 01:12:59 the time that they saw the crazy cult like behavior they were like okay but if we let it go for a little bit longer could we make more money though you know and like they with unitology they show you right off the bat like our our shareholders profits and our employees safety are at the forefront of our concern and it's like yep in that order you know there's a there's a great bit of detail from Dead Space to but also the in between like a medium of between Dead Space
Starting point is 01:13:33 one and two where they talk more about planet cracking and yes actually is yes yes and how as like laughably like destructive and short term planet cracking is it's it's not enough like it's it's not a sustainable process in in the lore you unlock at the end of one they go into a lot of planet cracking detail and that's where I saw a good bit of that you know where they're describing how I think CEC is the company right they are they're like yeah people have
Starting point is 01:14:04 concerns about planet cracking and the danger it poses to the solar systems when in which we apply it but we assure you that we've taken much precaution and blah blah blah and just the idea of like you have the ability to destroy a fucking planet that is horrifying it has massive implications for the solar system you're doing it in you're gonna get those resources and you're gonna move on and I'm just like yeah I can immediately imagine the worst case scenarios of what you would do with
Starting point is 01:14:39 planet destroying technology that you control from space big corporation not to mention of course the then the the Altman files you know where you got the the fucking there's a really depressing bunch of details about Altman that you would never find out unless you read his book like his actual real book that came out that was about what happened with Altman where like how Unitology fucking started and the basic deal is that there was a marker event on earth that was like really
Starting point is 01:15:16 small scale and he tries to stop it and ends up being like the last person to survive and like eventually stops it but as a result because of weirdo dipshit he becomes the Christ figure of the of the new religion yeah it sucks so bad yeah and that's the and then of course you combine that with the conspiratorial nature of like actively trying to hide a secret creating a real conspiracy and you fire that for a million years you know people are now like oh we have every reason to
Starting point is 01:15:50 believe in the conspiracy and the worst of and how crazy it gets that the reluctant like God damn it they're gonna turn you into a Christ figure of martyr type outcome is it's such a fucking depressing one and it really hits which is and which is why I'm like I'm gonna reference it again but like that fake cop out ending from Assassin's Creed 3 when this Desmond is described as like it's like hey man you save the world and no matter what you do it's all gonna go bad
Starting point is 01:16:26 because people will hear your words and then fast forward long enough and they'll twist them for their own devices and then and start killing each other based on what you said and misinterpreting it so there's no winning here you will never clarify yourself enough to save the future and it's like that's a I will say horrifying observation. I don't know what your stream plans are but Dead Space 2 is a shot best like chased after Dead Space 1 like in today's time
Starting point is 01:16:59 period like there's a lot in that game that I mean it obviously came out two and a half years later but like it assumes intimate knowledge with the first one for all sorts of like like how do it like scare remixes like suspiciously similar hallways that are meant to evoke a feeling in you then then they fuck with to jump scare you from a different direction. I either assumes you're playing the back to back or that you played one multiple times you remember a ton about it.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I certainly don't intend to wait too long before I get into it but it was not what that's crazy next on the slate. There's a there's a lot of good shit that I have lined up that I'd like to jump into so every choice is difficult trust me. I'll be getting I'll be getting to it shortly but it is not right away on the slate now now now just do it man come on. Okay so do you not know so I shouldn't announce what I'm going to do next then we should just just I'm going to do
Starting point is 01:18:05 Silent Hill three next. Oh that's a good one yeah but no fuck it no never mind fuck no back down. That's a good one shit man just give it a chance people so it'll be fine it's like six hours to 12 it's not that bad see the fun thing is that I know you already know this but get ready to see like the absolute theoretical maximum of the PS2's asset creating power.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Oh yeah just just absolute wizardry. Granny you'll be probably playing it on the personal computer but still yes just you know I'm but I'm there's a couple of short things I'd like to get taken care of before another long committal because it's we're still in the post Elden Ring cleanse so you know these both the both of those games are not very long they're going to be a couple weeks at most and then we'll be moving on.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Whatever you do or Silent Hill three you keep that puzzle difficulty on normal or below because the hard versions of those puzzles are like bordering on impossible without like university degree level knowledge I see like they are the most absurd like don't give you shit puzzles I've ever seen in my life. Normal normal's been fine so far I mean I'm just every like I've been just going through them on normal for each game
Starting point is 01:19:36 and you know I haven't noticed any issues so yeah I guess we'll see but regardless it's it's yeah like I said it's a short trip it's you know I'm hoping for two maybe three sessions tops. Before before long yeah. And and and and it's. I would I'd like to get some of the like shorter game a sequel cleanup done you know in the next little bit so going to be
Starting point is 01:20:11 going into some of that stuff but yeah we'll be starting that on Wednesday. And then we will be having a special Friday night stream where we'll sit down and we'll watch whatever the fuck gets sent our way. We're going to start like that it's going to be an extra thing on Friday we're going to try to figure out how best to work it into the schedule to not take away from other recording
Starting point is 01:20:48 time but for now one an extra days being introduced and we'll see how that goes and then we'll decide how to how to proceed after that so I think the way and I've already asked some of the mod friends to help take a look in and you know verify things are kosher for stream so I have to have something to say about that I did take a look at some of your videos on on my bullshit on Saturday. It's too weird too weird it's too weird.
Starting point is 01:21:28 It's too weird for two reasons one watching LP content is strange to me always has been the second of which is that more than any viewer ever who watches any of your videos the desire to like reach out and like push you is so overwhelmingly intense because I have reached out and pushed you but I no longer can and it's just like no no just just no no no. Yeah, I can't do it. Good. Can't do it. The back the backfire is good. That's that's about right. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:22:15 That's exactly how it should be. It should be super weird. It should feel incestuous. It felt very strange. It should feel that way. Excellent. I'm glad. Yeah, the way I'd like to go about figuring out how to do this and I'm curious because the quality filter will certainly help in both cases. I want to do two things. One, I'm going to make a Twitter thread and I'll see people can reply in that and just pop some things in and then some of the friendly
Starting point is 01:22:48 folks that mod can take a look and you know compile that into a little list and then the other thing I'd like to do is I want to make a Reddit thread and see what gets upvoted there and see the difference between the quality of these two sources and judge accordingly. It's like the I have been running a method of I have a Twitter thread and I literally just hit add to watch later and then skim it to see if there's a dick in it, which has led to the wildest quality Delta of anything
Starting point is 01:23:26 I have ever seen in my life. And I think my favorite one was when I was doing the last one, I think a couple FF 14 videos came up and people were like what is with this FF 14 bias and I'm like it's people who watch my channel adding the videos. Where do you think it's coming from? Yeah, what are you fucking stupid? I I would like to see the the difference in taste from these places. So that's that's how we're going to roll it out. So yeah, for now, I'm going to put the schedule
Starting point is 01:24:09 out, but it's going to be Friday at 6 p.m. Eastern Friday night. We're going to we're going to we're going to do it and we're going to see how this goes and then I'll take notes and and figure out what to do from there. Oh, good. I'm streaming. I'm going to be streaming the prey on Friday at like three. Wait. Oh, shit. Okay. Well, my shit's the same time. So you want to move mine earlier? I don't know. I'll figure it out. Yeah, I usually don't do Fridays, but I don't
Starting point is 01:24:37 want to take time off of Mass Effect or cut into Silent Hill. Oh, that's what I ended up doing. All the all the React Andes are on Saturdays as an extra stream because like let's be real blunt. It's not the most high effort, high energy shit in the world. No, I certainly I understand that at the same time as well than the other the other opportunities to, you know, cut into fighting game stuff, which, you know, for some people, it'd be like, yeah, do it, but I never want
Starting point is 01:25:06 to do that. I feel I feel behind and bad on that anyways, and I never want to lose touch of that. I mean, the fact that like we had a there's some fun clips that I'm going to be popping up on Woolly versus the algorithm that our fighting game related and like the one that went up had some people going like, dude, you want to you want to beat the algorithm why are you posting this shit? I'm like, because I would literally rather stop streaming as a career than stop being
Starting point is 01:25:28 into fighting games or talking about them or doing content for them. I'd sooner quit one day. That's going to be to your head when fighting games are made illegal. Well, then fight me in the underground. Only criminals will have fighting games. Look for the reboot spray paint. You'll find me. I would sooner fucking leave than stop doing that. Don't be ridiculous. Fuck off with that. I'm never going to stop. It's my favorite shit ever. It's the shit that I ignore all this
Starting point is 01:25:58 other shit I'm playing because I love this. It ain't going anywhere, guys. So that's that's good. That's important to me. That's how I feel. We're going to we're going to we're going to see how this goes. Test the waters and yeah, I'll report back to everybody. Now make sure everyone to go watch Willie's stream and give him a nice existential crisis about what streaming actually is now. I'm three weeks into this Andy shit and I'm still having it intensely every time I turn
Starting point is 01:26:34 the camera on. It's very strange. All good. I'm prepared and you know, again, at best and at worst, if you don't have time for that, I suppose you can catch it on Willie versus the algorithm in an enhanced form. There's some yeah, it's that shit's going that's just going on. You're going to be you're going to you're going to chop it and fucking filter it for the tubes. Hopefully providing that the tubes doesn't reject anything and get on my ass about you know, I was talking to
Starting point is 01:27:10 Eli about it and he was just like, yeah, don't even send it to YouTube. Okay, don't literally don't even bother. I'm again, I depends on what it is and I'd rather test the waters because like for me, I you know, we I stream to record to edit to post, right? I don't have the va dump situation where the stream is the main thing. So I would rather come up with a solution or something salvageable. If it's a game related stuff, I imagine that's usually fine. Just certain
Starting point is 01:27:48 things music or movie or copyright oriented might be a problem, but select things. I'm willing to try and see how it's received by the upload. Anyway, so that's coming. And yeah, the only other thing I would say is I played a fuck ton of Rumbleverse and it's good. Did some local co op as well. Me and Reggie went in playing the duos haven't so much fun with that really enjoying it. I go back to that I'm going to have to look up because tech now exists. Tech now exists.
Starting point is 01:28:28 And there's yes, there's combos. There's jump canceling set ups you can do. There's good like if you want to do advanced combos, you got a wall splat people. You got to do. Yeah, so I was I was doing some very basic wall splat which would slide Irish whip into combo into into second wall splat into you know, you know, grab but then I was seeing people like you can you can do a third wall splat if you throw a book specifically. But the book has to be the right distance of
Starting point is 01:28:59 them coming off the wall into the air. Sprinting with wood planks is a thing better climbing with air dodge into into vaulting the Natsu of volleyball bump jump cancel into whatever you kind of follow up you want. That's great. Dolphin dive jump cancel. You can dolphin dive and then on the hit you can jump cancel into stuff and that's why I the whole time I was using dolphin dive like what is this good for I can't understand it and then and now you're
Starting point is 01:29:32 telling me you can jump cancel it like oh take it go to the lab go to the training mode do dolphin dive jump and then just do air grab and you'll dolphin bump jump and do an air suplex right and like apparently the fucking sphere shot is like meta now jack shot is fantastic to have for certain situations in when the circle closes in and there's an edge to the map similar for apparently it combos directly into super.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Okay, I didn't know that you can jump you can jump cancel the kick and they go straight up so well here's what I was going to get into is that the once you once you advance out of the beginners league like the prospect league fighting gets way harder because you're fighting against people who know the system now and like that that initial phase of just like slap it around you know and people waking up and doing Larry at every time they get up like they're way less
Starting point is 01:30:40 predictable people are learning how to fight and they're using defense they're using their blocks better they're being a more predictable challenging and such so like it'll get a lot you'll you'll notice how tougher it is to win in the next phase so you have to do things like I feel like grabs across the board need to be faster. I mean but they can't be faster than hits right sure but you can react to the red flash on reaction every time and that's
Starting point is 01:31:17 what that's by that's intended the pro I would say that like the spear tackle is too fast right that thing advances way too quickly at you and goddamn doesn't doesn't work and do damage and it's a lot of the time I find that hard to harder to react to so it is much harder to react to that. So I don't want that to be the situation for most grabs there has to be a happy medium. No my main thing is that it's like you get in the situations
Starting point is 01:31:48 where you're both holding your blocks up and if you attack somebody on block then you're the blocks done off of you is enough of them to retaliate but if you go to grab them and they hit you out of it that'll work but if you go to grab them while you're blocking they can roll out of the way on reaction and it's this weird stalemate that seems to go nowhere but it's it's only if you're playing with with like trying to go back to back actions things are timed to have hard counters what
Starting point is 01:32:20 fucks that up is by waiting a little bit if you wait a little bit you call out the role and then you hit them and then there's nothing they can do you know there's or you wait out and then you grab and then like it's it's just like a fighting game when you're if you're taking my turn your turn my turn your turn and we're doing it as tight as possible when I eventually decide to do a sure you can or roll it's going to work but if I added delay where you can fuck yourself up that
Starting point is 01:32:48 changes the rhythm you know there's other things as well with movement options for example if you're playing neutral like that implement an air dash an air dodge right in fact implement and jump instant air dodge Poison mist right okay and so you're fucking with the rhythm and when you get that delay you land and then you can start up whatever you want there's tech like that that's really good that you're seeing people do at the advanced leagues and it's like yeah
Starting point is 01:33:22 this is how footsies look when you're both just used to staring at each other holding block and waiting for an opening and waiting to react you know I just find it strange because we have the basic thing is rock paper scissors which is hit block grab but block beats hit and hit beats grab but block doesn't actually sorry grab doesn't beat block because it's reactable yeah so I mean the the in the in fighting games the triangle is often that like walking spacing is what you know or jumping
Starting point is 01:34:00 in the in that case would be a neutral grab attempt it depends on whether you have advantage or not but in many cases hit priorities gonna beat grab grab priorities gonna beat someone delaying or someone being predictable and you dot you avoiding what they just did and punishing them you know so spacing yourself out is really the third option on that rock paper scissors train game rather but yeah jump poison really good junk poison jump poison into punchline works you know
Starting point is 01:34:31 and like this is like again you want some tech that's like applies at the you know when you're when you're playing at the higher levels and stuff here's here's a fucking great one you you see a giant swing or you see a jack shot which for those of you who don't know yes that's literally the final fantasy 10 jack shot you can do that to people in this game yeah in rumble verse you sure it's it's not the sphere shot because the jack shot has you spin horizontally or is the
Starting point is 01:35:03 sphere shot is like a backflip I think there's different levels for the it's called the wrecked shot but I think that's the purple version so there's the the low level and I think the low I think the green blue purple all have different names for the the level of it yeah they do yeah but anyway what about my but my point is that like if you do that on somebody while your back is facing the the the ledge
Starting point is 01:35:33 or whatever you knock them out right so both of those are great for ringing people out but you don't know if you're going to actually need it you find one of those books on the ground you instead of implemented to get into your build right away pocket that shit save it to see where the circle closes and if the circle closes on a ledge then you switch to it otherwise build up a build that you're going to like you can you're going to lose a chicken slot obviously
Starting point is 01:35:56 but it's worth it because when the circle closes and you can knock people out with one good guess instead of having to win the full exchange you're doing great you know so that's the type of tech that comes into play once the basic mind games are once we move past them. I mean that's all great I just wish grab was faster. I don't I find it strange that great like
Starting point is 01:36:23 can't you can react to all grabs other than attack tackle I don't think you can react to that you guy doesn't feel like you can now. But like if I catch somebody blocking and I hit grab I should they should grab them and no because it's not meant to be a tick throw it's meant to be they should have tick throws. The game should have I would I would love if you could choose the ability to remove all your heavy combos so that your
Starting point is 01:36:51 triangle instead of you could do jab and then tick. Well I mean I don't know what to tell you it's meant to be it's meant to be a mind read I don't mind the way it's implemented I think that's fine it's a call out it gives you a much better reward and if you do it from a higher surface the damage is amplified and you can add that's great and furthermore you can combo into it and bounce off of surfaces to amplify that damage there's so much reward behind landing a
Starting point is 01:37:18 grab that I'm okay with it the way it is work for it earn it mind game them if you're going for the raw version or combo into it. You know Irish whip free grab. One is a grab. But I mean off the splat. Yeah but it's running it's the running grab is advancing faster than the normal like raw one is right or one to just
Starting point is 01:37:44 I'm just frustrated because in the wrestling game about wrestling and throwing people. My route my thing of like I wish grabs were better the response is yeah but think of all the combos you can do I'm like no I want to throw people in my wrestling game. Like. I'm just I just disagree I think that the fact that damage piles up for them so nicely and that you can combo into them
Starting point is 01:38:10 already means that there's a lot going on with grabs it just means you have to get a little bit you have to work into it a little bit more and that you're talking about like getting them raw versus comboing into them you know I'm not talking about getting them raw I'm talking about if somebody is blocking and you hit grab. You should you should get it period it should be instant it should work like a grab at any other game.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Like one of my favorite you know I don't like the game itself but what was it not you know me it should have been called you know me the game that is you know me what the fuck is it called fantasy strike. Fancy strike yeah the way to take your grab is to just do nothing. I love that I love it that's great that is like neutral as a tech is is really good.
Starting point is 01:38:58 But yeah and the other thing too is as well as that like in the air it's almost it's almost instantaneous when you do those callouts by the way I don't know if you've landed any air grabs on people yes it's it's strange why it's so fast in the air specifically it's not because it resembles the way air air command grabs work in like Street Fighter so let's say you're playing as guy and you do his Tiger knee 360 right the like the fact that he can grab you one foot
Starting point is 01:39:28 off the ground instantly it worked it just emulates those rules and fighting games of like the moment you call that out it's your you have 200 IQ you get the reward for having 200 IQ you know. So and I did that I landed an air super on somebody that was like waiting for to jump off of a car to get away from me and I'm like okay I'll just jump and grab instead and the games like oh yeah you did it no don't worry about it we're going
Starting point is 01:39:57 to we're going to make that work right away. So that is a hard enough thing to lend but this isn't Street Fighter yes but you still have to work very hard to earn it right the point of this isn't Street Fighter but there's hundred hand slaps as PD's and other things and sure you can for a reason right like the idea of how hard you have to work to land that in but in re making a hard read on somebody gives you the payoff for that successful read.
Starting point is 01:40:25 It's great I really like that part. And then the other thing I think we come to this grappling from different places I come from a place of if I've made the decision to grab at the moment that they were not expecting it they should just die. However you will note and you are coming from a place of like a more technical grappling game like I want I want instant SPD's right but you'll also know if I do a circle with my
Starting point is 01:40:52 character and hit grab that grab should be instant. You'll also note that in most fighting games you can't grab someone during block stun right you'll you have to wait for them to be back to neutral for it to work in something like BlazBlue you can but like most games they don't let you hit someone in block stun. Yeah BlazBlue's block stun should is filthy so it is techable right.
Starting point is 01:41:17 So so normal grabs you have the two exclamation marks for a really late tech or one for maybe say the way around but yes you have extra late techables if you combo into it but I think for command grabs it has a different rule I'm not 100% on that but comboing into grabs for less rewarded and an easier escape is excuse me it's like are you sleeping test you know. Anyway Rubble vs is a lot of fun and I'm using I'm working very hard cosmetically to enjoy the way my character looks
Starting point is 01:41:54 I'm putting on everything I can to just be like OK I have a cool looking character and that'll satisfy me for now slash not annoy me with with everything else going on in the aesthetics but it involves me putting on the welder's mask and just pretending that I'm a fucking Daft Punk robot. Essentially I really need to get back and play more Rumble vs maybe I'll play some tonight. Yeah and the part that I also I'm enjoying too is like when
Starting point is 01:42:27 I remember when I was playing apex and like was getting used to the map and going like OK if I decide to go pick this area I know the layout this is going to be risky but you know I go to the highway every single highway every time highways great every time highways great. There's other great areas though right you can you can go pick a fight in the hot zones on top of the skyscrapers I found those to be a really good way to get thrown off to like you're
Starting point is 01:42:54 almost death within five seconds of the start of the game. Well what you got to do is come in seconds so that you can knock someone off with your landing and then use the boxes to throw them at people and you know scramble like the towers whoever gets to the tower first always is the moment where they're like yay and they start reading something only get launched to their death every time the easiest place to do that is the scaffolding as well not the scaffolding the
Starting point is 01:43:20 construction cranes you knock someone off on those and they're gone and then there's stuff like pavilion where there's good shit in there and it's on the ground earn it if you think you can fight come here and do it you know there's there's the WB water tower looking thing that is also like a wild death trap but it's just it's what what I really you know the rhythm of the fact that like if you start out with no fighting and you just build your character out and then move in that
Starting point is 01:43:51 will be one solid way to go except you're you you're out your perkless or you get you start out scrapping you get those perks right away you pray to God you get meditative and then you you you work on the build afterwards you know what's interesting to me is that you always start from the same side of the the island like I don't think I've ever seen the far side of the island from the boat that you get launched from uh um don't don't we rotate from different
Starting point is 01:44:26 spots yeah but they're always on the same side but you're always from the south side way in the middle yeah yeah but you do you yeah you it does or it orients somewhat differently it doesn't do a full but but a 30 degree angle along the south side yeah you always launch facing the highway with the with the suburbs on the right in the city center on your left right right right yeah yeah um I mean I think that helps for learning the map at the very least but like it could uh it could be
Starting point is 01:44:57 interesting if like well I don't know would it get too confusing for people if it kept rotating full 360 around what do other games do people with other games just go fuck it do whatever does fortnight have different launch points in the same that all the pub g fortnight apex you always come in at random angles and random tangents okay um apex your is it apex always the same cannon point as well where or drop point where absolutely not no no hmm no absolutely not all random
Starting point is 01:45:37 because I feel I'm trying to remember it's been a while but I feel like skull town is always over on the left on the bottom well well skull town is always in the same spot but where the the ship comes in on the map is always yes yes no no no it's the same orientation of the map but the ship is making a line in a unique way every time yes that's what it is right whereas in rumble I you're launching true true spot I remember now yeah fair enough um anyway uh so yeah that's
Starting point is 01:46:10 that's that's that's been also the way the way that rumble verse fires you out of that cannon the max distance from start is like a parallel line across the edge of the circle where if you try and get max distance you might be landing like right next to somebody like there's no way to there's very little way to pick your spot and then go I'm going to go there and then when you're 10 seconds from landing go oh no there's six other guys going to that spot you can nudge it a little bit
Starting point is 01:46:43 but you don't have the ability to go way off to the side um you couldn't say apex apex is gives you a stupid amount of control the amount of swerve on it I have managed to swerve like from say crane over to like a second highlight point you know when I saw too many people but uh yeah I think apex you got you got a bit more control and again I've never seen the fortnight well I have a quick question now that you're going to hop on the react Andy stream idea for that big popularity
Starting point is 01:47:12 when are you going to be hopping into the fucking fortnight duos I mean come on bro offers right there I that chicken dinner I literally do not want to I don't know how else to say that I do not want to do it is that not good enough of a reason so so when you're going to do it though got it okay so yeah tune in Willie versus this week Mass Effect will continue Silent Hill 3 will start and we will react on Friday oh hey by the way after finishing dead space uh did you appreciate
Starting point is 01:47:56 the not that smart overall but still smarter than I thought dead space was level select uh hidden message yeah yeah that's a little like wow there it is plus there's no level select menu so you can spell it all out yourself you just have to remember yeah if there was a level list you'd be like oh and also could that could Nicole be any more of a Silent Hill character like it's it feels like her dialogue was read out and recorded with a copy of Silent Hill on in the background
Starting point is 01:48:35 I'm going to wait about three months to answer that question okay feels aggressively like they wanted her to be from that Silent Hill character got on a spaceship and then sent Isaac a message um maybe you promise me you take me to the USG even she's more but you never did well I'm there now in our special place the medical room see but the problem is that Isaac is not from Silent Hill at all most are so are most of the characters in Silent Hill ah wow okay yeah woolly versus on
Starting point is 01:49:22 twitch Twitter it's not Twitter it's with twitch and YouTube and of course woolly versus the algorithm new clips dropping every day fun stuff uh what what what even what dropped today today was spear tackle is a powerful tool and yesterday algorithm yep yesterday was red health that ghost child is getting lit up good times you got ghost child oh yeah when I was playing Silent Hill too and uh I had I had pretty low life and Cheryl decided to jump scare me so I shot gun scared her and that was that
Starting point is 01:50:06 oh that clip doesn't that's wait that's not what the what what is this clip that's not in the game hmm you should go look at that clip that's very interesting Silent Hill one my bad Silent Hill one alright whatever uh let's take a quick break and use the bathroom and then we'll be back yes I will thank you already um this week this week yes dread flop this this this week podcast is sponsored by hello fresh hello fresh fresh ah I see what you're doing there
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Starting point is 01:55:26 so that's America's number one meal kit thank you hello fresh thanks hello fresh love you all right so in the news this week hey Willie before we do any of the news I gotta I gotta send a video to you it's one minute long you can just skim right through it it's making me laugh fucking fucking IGN is coming at you hot with a full minute of Gotham Knights boss fight footage which is for 50 seconds
Starting point is 01:55:59 of a cut scene and then Nightwing does to gigantic energy blasts that have damage numbers pop up off of the Harley Quinn and it it it looks so bad is this a addendum to our FMV gamescom cut scene conversation yes it sure is it sure is okay I'm going to post for anybody watching it live I'm going to put it in the in the in the chat to those of you who are not watching this live you get it's IGN posted at August 26 338 p.m.
Starting point is 01:56:37 It is oh my God larious Harley doesn't have pigtails anymore no it's a new version she's got to just like check out this boss fight with 30 seconds of lead up to have a night wing shoot fucking energy blasts alright he shot an energy blast okay the cut scene and did he shot an energy blast he did a combo he back flipped eight times he's shooting a second energy blasts and then the cut scene starts wow what a hot boss fight that game is going to be terrible
Starting point is 01:57:16 this could have been edited for Twitter this could have been edited for a one minute highlight it's entirely possible that the boss fight itself will will not be 100% as accurate as distance this tweet seems to imply I don't know man every every time I see that game they're just desperate to show as much of the cut scenes as possible yeah but little of the gameplay as possible but don't but the people but the people they're selling this to like that so they're that no the
Starting point is 01:57:49 people when they were selling the Arkham games the Arkham games all their treathers were like look at Batman take out this whole room and it was unedited gameplay look at Batman do a big fight here's the entire Bane boss fight or here's the entire Mr. Freeze boss fight as a trailer I feel okay I have to go I have to see how those you know what I haven't played those games they were they were when they were putting out that those Arkham games they were insanely
Starting point is 01:58:20 confident to show off as much as they wanted I feel like from a distance the overtime they've gotten so big that like you just start doing that triple a don't even worry about whether it's gameplay or not thing and it was funny because that led to like a thing where I was just like like like I was talking to Reggie about like how games come but and yeah and I was like dude you know what in fact you would have loved it because he's like he can't tell the difference between you
Starting point is 01:58:50 know shiny FMV and versus gameplay and he's just like damn I really would have had fun you know like it works on the very very basic appeal level you know to anyone who's not pulling on a magnifying glass like we are that being said I do suspect this is a Twitter at it dude oh yeah no I'm watching the full boss fight and it's still very bad okay the whole fight is make sure to shoot Harley with your energy guns coming out of your sticks so that she doesn't hit you oh my god it looks
Starting point is 01:59:27 so well I look forward to seeing whatever misconceptions I have about the series getting cleared up as I go through them um yeah I mean you played you played Arkham Arkham Salem right mm-hmm yeah no it's it's two more games that are like that but bigger I also saw the testing in the office when city was there and most of what I walked by was people grapple gliding through the city yeah because it because it ruled um why is the Batman
Starting point is 02:00:04 so what's going on well speaking of Batman I suppose multiverses has currently topped the July's best selling game list according to the NDP and PD that's good work Morty now it's good I this is the reason this the reason it's 100 years forever Morty now the reason why it's not bad there the reason why this is a I think kind of notable is because this is a free to play game that is still the highest grossing because of the founder pack promotion so
Starting point is 02:00:44 yeah that's not surprising at all actually people do like fighting games they just hate paying for fighting games except for when they have the opportunity to on an otherwise free game and then they spend enough for it to be the top selling game of that month that's right so you gotta trick people into playing fighting people into playing fighting games and it worked and it beat out Elden Ring so there you go this is this is your pure fucking proof if we can got you oh no I'm
Starting point is 02:01:16 playing a fighting game oh no oh geez no no no it if anything just kind of is like hey look that's a really nice piece of data for giving people something that they enjoy in the in the form of a fighting game that is again accessible to everybody free and then the optional monetization there looks like it's working out for them I'm sure that's the kind of money that I don't know a Capcom or an SNK or an ArcSys would be interested in so just fucking go start moving that way please
Starting point is 02:01:52 start thinking about that. That reminds me do you have the interview with Jun Takuchi about Resident Evil 7 on the dock at this week? I don't. So this came out like 10 minutes before we started there's an interview with Jun Takuchi working on Resident Evil 7 and apparently the game wasn't doing so good and part of the reason was that Capcom was adamant that every game that came out was going to push online connectivity and live service and all this shit and as a result RE7 was not looking
Starting point is 02:02:27 too good so the head of the company said Jun get in there fix RE7 make a good game sell money right and him and the creative team like all the leads are like okay what do we want RE7 to be and they just started going down the list and like crossing off features that they didn't want to put in the game and the quote is and then at the end we ended up with marketing's nightmare a regular old survival horror game amazing and marketing and like some of the heads above them were like furious and
Starting point is 02:03:06 they're like yeah whatever no this is what we're going to make oh yeah oh god no don't just make a normal game you're missing out that's money on the table oh that's great I like that a lot boy boy they hate it that decision probably saved resident evil because then we if not we would have gotten another RE6 right and that would have killed it for for good but like it what really is annoying is that like there's no accountability for that type of thing where it works out and then like is
Starting point is 02:03:50 anyone going to go back and have the meeting with the people with the bad ideas and go look look how those those bad ideas were not present here and this worked because it wasn't that right no in fact what happens is those people from what I could tell the way it works at Capcom is that when those people are determined to be morons instead of telling them to shut up or get out of my face they're given their own projects to like like hide them away yeah so they get well okay we'll show you
Starting point is 02:04:26 ruin we're not going to fuck up resident evil or don't make cry with this so you can go make resident evil verse so it's a multiplayer it's a it's a live service what I was waiting to say is if the company is not willing to burn a mainline entry but they're willing to spin off on a popular franchise and they'll give you a spin off to go prove whatever and show you the gargantuan failure of it and then the guys working over on our reverse is like what if we eat dragons and then it's
Starting point is 02:05:04 you know just pushes them into the corner and then turns them around and then you just wait a little bit and then the success of the normal thing becomes the new standard that everyone's talking about and now you can just come back and go okay so when you're going to do more of this normal thing we've got some great ideas for how you can amplify that experience and then the cycle begins anew great so for example how about we get a show on Netflix that'll be amazing
Starting point is 02:05:41 and let's let's well you know I mean to be fair if you get the right people involved with the resident evil live action thing it doesn't have to be an utter mess but either way the left flick you sure the Netflix live action thing is cancelled one season it's done for separate attempts in and they're all garbage what about what about just wasn't one of those CG ones okay no I thought you also thought you said one of them also no no no they are all very bad but also I didn't
Starting point is 02:06:20 even include that because those are canon mm-hmm I'm actually talking about like mainstream spin-off resident evil the Romero script is bad and never made it to to production the the Milo Jovovich shit is trash mm-hmm the the remake that's like this like classic is bad and then this new show is bad okay is it that the CG movies are better than all the live action ones so far no no they are also bad but because they're CG and technically canon they get to live in the same
Starting point is 02:07:03 horrible spin-off universe that like the novelization of revenge of the Sith lives I've heard different I've heard different from fucking who I don't I don't even told you that those rest evil CG movies were not bad I don't even know at this point but there's a bunch of people right now that are that seem to be on that train but I don't fucking whatever either way you listen to them you're gonna listen to the guy who has a copy of the fucking mid 90s resident evil novels sitting
Starting point is 02:07:39 around in boxes Caliban Cove yeah yeah I will that's not even the stupidest one that's the worst one it's not the stupidest one underworlds the stupidest one I will continue listening to neither of you and and that's the way I'm gonna live my life so hey as somebody who spent a disproportionate amount of their life trying to figure out the resident evil story instead of watching the godfather let me tell you it's it's not worth it it's not worth it at all well Netflix
Starting point is 02:08:11 decided it wasn't worth it either so they've canceled the I bet the Lance Reddick Wesker show and that's that one season and a couple of Zootopia porn references later and they're hanging it up didn't quite land but there's good news they've they've cleared clearly now that they've gotten now that the show's canceled there's room for a new show for and I think I have the perfect idea for what Netflix can replace resident evil with what's that perfect timing because with with that
Starting point is 02:08:56 opened up slot they can go take a look at the life story of Koichi Sugiyama the dragon quest composer as he's about to get a TV show in Japan about his life well that's a bunch of bullshit unless unless so it seems that but they're not seems that the the story is about how the creation of of the iconic overture Lotto's theme piece was made and they're gonna follow alongside because it's kind of like I know they did a an anime one with
Starting point is 02:09:41 Hideaki Anno he was a seemed like that was a big hit so I guess they're gonna be doing some live action dramas starring other popular figures and a dragon quest composer Mr. Sugiyama his life is next so we'll get to the bottom of how the composed music for dragon quest came to be starting with episode one the truth about Nanking a couple of words followed by episode two we didn't do nothing to those Koreans and even if we did they deserved it episode three the
Starting point is 02:10:21 the dragon woman were good though actually and also dragon quest yes and and you know and of course I'm looking forward to episode five the gays don't have kids so they don't matter and are unproductive this would be a perfect decision while the guy so toxic that that's a pretty weak final series of takes compared to the earlier shit like usually you'd be like oh that's horrible but in this context you're like oh he's coming down yeah but episode one
Starting point is 02:11:03 always sunny the gang gets racist you got to open on a bang right a few words about Nanking you got to open nice and strong to get the viewer in the mindset to learn about dragon quest music so I think that would be a great acquisition for Netflix if they decided to replace resident yeah episode five LGBT who oh man yeah good guy good history good times in fact you know he's a good guy because the the lead
Starting point is 02:11:46 actor said I can't wait to show off what kind of person he is as the show you know hey listen listen we're making a lot of fun who knows they may actually just really go for it and be like I'm doing a big composing meanwhile big asshole who knows I don't think that's what they're going to do but they could you know the the breakdown here on on of the production of the show it doesn't seem like they're going for that angle seems like they're going for the fluff piece
Starting point is 02:12:26 but we'll find out this weekend when it airs and we'll see if it's worth getting acquired by Netflix so there we go oh yes of course I know I did mention the comfort women were good actually and when there was a resolution to ask the Japanese government to apologize for the sexual slaves he actually came out and said no don't apologize and then he wrote a little ditty he wrote a letter saying stop it don't apologize for that that was awesome so cool guy cool guy
Starting point is 02:13:08 real real I don't think the letter was like no don't it ruled um I do think nasty oh okay you you you say that but I do think that's what the letter said oh man it ruled was how he actually ended it so yeah good times let's learn about dragon quest together and its music you know you know this reminds me of it's like cuz cuz Japan China and Korea they have some some shit some historical shit right and it reminds me of the yakuza series which I have described
Starting point is 02:14:01 treats like Koreans like like body snatchers or like fucking space aliens but they wanted to turn it around right they wanted to have the games do well in Korea because it's a big market for Japanese games so what they did was they cast a pop star in the role of a super cool villain the guy looks like Virgil and yakuza 6 okay right and then it has like well look Koreans are like a cool mafia group in this in this in yakuza 6 and they're gonna be a big part of it and then
Starting point is 02:14:36 they marketed it heavily in Korea and it was all set to go and the game got banned a day before it went for sale by the ratings board in Korea and just never released there uh huh any reason why cuz fuck him that's literally the reason the reason is someone who had a rubber stamp decided nah fuck him I see wow well um yeah yeah well I think I think a show like this is gonna do wonders for relations between the two countries really oh I'm certain you know and of all the
Starting point is 02:15:20 franchises of games and composers there have been that are classics you know of all the uh mature yamanes of the world the the Sakaguchi's and the fuck it like just all the places to go you just we had to land on this one because dq so yeah all right it's just wow cuz you hear the dragon quest theme it's like it's like oh wow it's it's oh it's so chill and happy and and operatic and every time I hear it I think about the fucking rape of Nanking and like great that's the exact
Starting point is 02:16:00 association they were totally going for and I got the I got the feeling that people at Enix were just like head in hands like we can't get can you there's no way to make him quiet right like just just he's not gonna stop he's old but that's but that's the thing though and now let's triple down by making a series about it like let's you know uh uh uh let's let's go all the way in the opposite direction instead of just trying to quietly shove it in the corner there was a period of
Starting point is 02:16:35 like he died and everyone was like great now I can enjoy dragon quest without thinking about this and then they're like no he's a big hero ah man yeah good times put a statue up yeah that's popular people like that people like statues yeah of cool guys who thought cool stuff and you know would be an excellent base for his statue a mass grave of severed ears oh good oh right yeah I forgot that was a thing yeah no don't forget about that one don't forget about that oh alright
Starting point is 02:17:23 so anyway um that'll be airing this weekend other things going on though of course uh Netflix is um also going to be I love I love I love it it's just it's great when I know this you I already know I already fucking know no it's it's great when just in the midst of casually discussing the the the you know the circumstances and things going on in the world and people just go wait what's happening what history huh it's like oh yeah guys know this stuff there's stuff not good bad
Starting point is 02:18:03 things out there you should know about them but anyway video games um yeah not Netflix feature film adaptation of the renowned video game franchise BioShock has been announced to be directed even by you didn't hear about this I thought you were going to talk about the ring of power thing oh no no no I'm talking about BioShock movie coming directed by I am legend director Francis Lawrence also Hunger Games stuff and script written by uh Michael Green behind Logan Blade Runner
Starting point is 02:18:40 2049 and American Gods now I liked two of those three things I agree um the the the BioShock movie that needs to happen won't happen because uh it needs to be like BioShock might be the least subtle political game that's ever come out after maybe Metal Gear Solid um it's it's like a fucking 12 hour treatise to making fun of libertarians yeah but the but but the reception is yo uh Andrew Ryan what a boss I'll put him on the shelf next to uh uh Armstrong you know and and
Starting point is 02:19:25 uh uh fucking Delta Rune uh what's his name uh the the the what's his name the um the go I want to want to buy want to make a deal uh Spampton Spampton and just be like you can you make fun of me but we love it unironically yeah oh man I just so like here's what okay BioShock trailer right what what is the what is the um it's gonna be a art deco 50s rendition of a edgy song maybe a nine inch nail song you know something like that you think you know the thing breathy vocals could be could be
Starting point is 02:20:19 yeah and the the the voiceover for it has to be the Andrew Ryan actor's speech of is the man is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow no says the parasite no says Washington no says the Vatican um I I mean I see all that but the main important factor is that it's gonna be panning through sets of uh of like clean perfect rapture and then it's cutting to destroyed rapture in like little jumps right and the paper is rolling around and all the craziness but it's gonna be really low
Starting point is 02:20:59 budget because it's not gonna have the money to fucking so yeah like look as good as it would need the money to look good for I I think the biggest problem about rapture is that rapture itself might be like one of the most expensive like movie sets I could think of to build bar in Columbia CG yeah but even all the like even yeah the CG on the windows alone like every every single opening and the worst thing they could do like way worse than than having the CG on the windows look
Starting point is 02:21:31 bad is to just have tons of the the sets take place with in rooms that have no windows windowless like which which like no it's it's a city under the goddamn ocean almost every room in the show must somehow show the ocean well it's a movie but uh I still see there being like your your expensive sort of introduction and and you know that's the most money you're gonna see spent on the underwater shit and then yeah the the amount the amount it would need is not what it's gonna get
Starting point is 02:22:06 I can see a lot of you can see a lot of basements that have like a bucket of water being poured out by like a staffer in a corner every couple of minutes in the background water creaking through the little like seal door emergency hit the shutters hide all the windows now every window is shut you can't look outside at the water I can also say that like all your classic plasmids are not gonna be associated with the main cast instead they are going to be associated with with monster
Starting point is 02:22:39 man's that will chase down the character oh no it's a fireman oh no it's a man made out of bees and finally we will get the answer that every bio shock fan has been waiting for what do they look like under the big daddy suit we're gonna take you they look like weirdos we're gonna take the big daddy suit off and you're gonna see it yourself the answers you've been dying to know because we gotta see we want to know right that's the most important part good times things gonna be like I mean
Starting point is 02:23:21 the names that they've they've they've announced there are people that can make a good project so I'm I'm I'm really I'm hoping but I also would rather just we don't even go down this adaptation game but here we are you know it's Netflix is hard committing so well you know let's see it let's see the breathy vocals let's see the set let's see the the you know cuts and then maybe even after that like you're gonna have a little like this moment of like some like a little bit of action
Starting point is 02:23:59 and a would you kindly something you know whatever and then just the like the bio shock and then the big and you know that's it just a little hint I oh you know it's funny because you could make a good video game movie you could but you'd never believe it by the history ever alternative take trailer to because this is also very large and thematic you just go with the full on little sisters ring around the rosy style trailer hand in hand skipping little girl you know the
Starting point is 02:24:49 innocence and then the murder and the innocence and then the murder the more the more that I think about it like Netflix picking up the bio shock is extra nuts because like everything in that setting is so expensive like the big daddy if you want to do it practical that's in crazy crazy pricey if you don't want to look like paper mache right you got to get little kids and put little kids and make up and have little kids be actors on your set like fuck I'm pretty disappointed because
Starting point is 02:25:20 I mean I believe some maybe almost a decade ago I was talking about how I thought that the direction for game adaptations to go in was set I thought of a ball set a new trend and I thought we were going to just see it get to the point where in theaters we'll just be watching gameplay and sadly house of the dead was the beginning and end of just watching game footage in a theatrical release but I still have hope that we'll get there where the title of the movie will just be you watching
Starting point is 02:25:58 the game like I still bring it up every time and I'm not sure what resident evil movie it's from but will you play Dari five many of the people listening to this play Dari five when you encounter Wesker at the missile and he throws his sunglasses at you and Chris catches them and then he produce proceeds to absolutely beat your ass down in the cut scene and then they adapted that shot for shot in a feature film but all the directing is garbage and all the acting is
Starting point is 02:26:28 flat and no one knows there and it's just like this was directed by a video game director in a performance capture studio why is the the RE five cut scene a hundred times more professional than the feature film like what the fuck is going on I unironically would love a feature film where the team behind the game just gave all the tools to another studio to just create cinematic cut scenes out of like assets they have so like stick the load the models into the boss fight room play
Starting point is 02:27:07 out a boss fight you know and and do it via with with dramatic cuts that you couldn't see in gameplay camera placement and action and weapons that you couldn't see in gameplay but use the assets to just create the damn thing and and that and that'll be it can't get any more faithful than that sonics the only good one still video game adaptation yeah we had this conversation like five times already I think we always come I know but it's still it's still funny that's
Starting point is 02:27:46 still songs the only so many of the chat but it's not you can go straight to hell no it's not we've done this like Castlevania was pretty good Castlevania is not a film sorry I'm I'm let's I'm gonna say film people are saying Mortal Kombat okay fine Mortal Kombat and Sonic Silent Hill I didn't see it but you know I'll tell you right now dude we can't we can't do this again we literally can't do I can do everything shut up no it's just it's enough moving on Jesus Christ other things other
Starting point is 02:28:23 things are going on you know what else is going on a PlayStation has announced a price hike on the PlayStation 5 across wild all markets except for America yeah so that's pretty fucking funny because everyone is mad obviously that it raised like twenty thirty bucks or whatever it is ten percent generally but you can't buy it because it's selling out every shipment so what possible incentive do they have to do anything but fuck you over as much as they want naturally now
Starting point is 02:28:56 the funny part is that this is the you know due to inflation and whatever other reasons buddy out of they gave but it's in Canada but not in America and it's like so what what circumstances are occurring uniquely across this border that are not occurring to America oh is it just that you are trying to minimize the impact of how angry people are going to get at you either that or they they have they've surmised that Americans are significantly more broke than people in every
Starting point is 02:29:23 other country that they sell the PlayStation you hear that American Sony saying you're too poor to get a price hike I don't even like I just took damage so yeah across the board give or take ten percent and it looks like this is you know that whatever justification as they've given has elicited a response from both Microsoft and Nintendo who have come out to say oh yeah no we're not going to touch our prices we're going to leave everything the same don't worry we will not be following
Starting point is 02:30:10 suit so wow of course I think the absolute goofiest thing is like I'm I probably like I'm going to be needing a second PlayStation five at some point like maybe within the year and like I don't know how to get one yep still like that's that's where that thing is still at like I literally don't even fucking know someone just posted a reply in that thread with a screenshot of Marlowe Holden the the the fucking the dealers meeting just going prices going up on the brick you know and
Starting point is 02:30:55 it's like yeah that's that's what's that's what the scalpers are getting together and discussing basically is like all right you know that pandemic price going up yeah and completely unrelated of course Sony being sued for five point nine billion with the plaintiff claiming that Sony is over charging consumers and abusing its position as a primary seller of PlayStation games digitally well yeah that's okay unrelated okay what's that have to do with nothing nothing
Starting point is 02:31:31 nothing nothing so yeah can I buy PS5 off of the best buy not sold online and sold out in nearby stores no well by in the near future did you mean like right now no not right now okay but like do you think anything's going to change in the next five months it hasn't changed over the course of two three years so what does it matter if I look now or later like speaking of things that are time sensitive that was rough alright here let's just get into it a double kickstarter has
Starting point is 02:32:27 been announced for the spiritual successors to wild arms and shadow hearts okay so the creators of both wild arms and shadow hearts have gotten together to announce a double kickstarter where they'll be collectively raising funds to to produce the games armed Fantasia and penny blood and I mean you look at the armed Fantasia like key art and it's like the font couldn't be any more like it and they're staring into the long distance and the trailer shows has them running
Starting point is 02:33:10 through the the the desert fields and whistling music behind like they're just they're going straight for it but yes it's a double campaign so essentially both projects are I guess linked together and they're asking for 750k to fund both games this is a wild way to go about this but they are currently actually halfway to their goal really yeah they are at as of the moment 548k out of 942k Canadian so adjust it but they're they're pretty much at the halfway point right off the
Starting point is 02:33:56 bat so people are very excited for spiritual successors to wild arms and shadow hearts in the form of armed Fantasia and penny blood so okay I don't think wild arms in the I don't think it was that oh wild art I know wild arms is fucking beloved shadow hearts years and years it was a billion years ago it was it certainly was but five years ago or more at least five years ago which means the entirety of 1995 no ten years ago which is the entirety of 1995 to 2010 is about ten
Starting point is 02:34:32 years ago I remember watching a friend play through a bunch of wild arms one and I have very strong nostalgia for those those hangouts and that the cool shit in that game so I can understand the love and the desire for that I don't know much about the sequels but it seems if I remember correctly that was like some first party Sony stuff so they'd have to go through Sony I imagine to make an actual wild arms thing armed Fantasia shadow heart shadow hearts was was it not a
Starting point is 02:35:18 who's a ruse a ruse I have I have no idea I have absolutely no goddamn idea who made any of that shit oh okay fairly like I never touched shadow hearts once I knew people who were into it but I would I never actually got into it okay fair enough I thought you knew about these but I don't have much knowledge about shadow hearts but wild arms is the shit that was very cool anyway these are going along and I mean the two for one nature of this deal is very like I don't like that I don't like
Starting point is 02:36:03 you know that you said it high and then you're going to split your budgets accordingly or whatever the details would be there it's a little messy you know and it kind of is a little a little hostage in a way if you're looking for a spiritual successor to either of these games but you're more on one side than the other but anyway that's ultimately why I don't you know like to fucking do a ton of kickstarter things these days anyway but it's it's it's it's out there seems like it's
Starting point is 02:36:33 moving check it out if you are interested in those things and don't if you're not the the footage of that the play for the trailer has a bunch of weird like time wasting costume bullshit in it when it cuts to the game it looks like that seems appropriate when it cuts to the game it looks like they've got target renders in place so I'm I'm not going to believe that what we see there is actually gameplay despite the fake HUD things but anyway that came out of the blue and is popping off
Starting point is 02:37:12 pretty aggressively on day one yeah yeah it ain't red ash it ain't Shenmue 3 I believe that this will happen this is this is a very clear like publisher push thing investor like look we were able to raise 750 K because 750 K for those two is not enough like not like a million wouldn't be enough for one of them unless they're aiming for extremely modest poverty indie games yeah but it definitely could be that too anyway so you know that's that and kickstarter continues to be a wary distrust
Starting point is 02:38:08 full place for projects like that these days but we'll see how this goes and last team ninja has just announced their newest game who long which is basically vibes of Neo in China so I heard people talking good stuff about this trailer looks pretty sick set in China bigger locations jump button combat combat more focused on Chinese martial arts and speed no stamina gauge more than 10 weapon types moral ranks for players and enemies the higher the harder they are to defeat is their hot loot I would
Starting point is 02:38:53 assume tons of hot loot and hopefully an ability to auto sort it on pickup now someone's going to come into your ass in a second and start screaming that that feature already exists you just have to set it up for the whatever rarity thing that you want but no that's not what you meant and I know it who long w u l o n g I mean look Ben and team ninja has proven themselves more than needed with fucking Neo Neo 2 and how awesome their quality of life and don't forget stranger
Starting point is 02:39:32 of paradise of course so anything coming out of them fuck yeah worth a look and I'm always super down for more martial arts on top of people are saying in the chat that there is apparently w o l o n g less loot and more of an RPG focus okay three interested I'm also interested in hand-to-hand focus I like that is cool that's it's cool also I know a hell of a lot more about like Japanese monsters they do about Chinese monsters so this is a nice change of pace absolutely I don't know
Starting point is 02:40:17 what China's got going on with the two okay situation there's probably tons of them see a tiger monster I'm down with that that's cool yeah yeah the vibe I thought of I was like I mean it's like if you say it's team ninja doing Sekiro it's like well Sekiro and like Neo are already overlapping in their subject matter but more but in terms of like switching to a different country and style yeah let's let's fucking see it I hopefully there's going to be tons of different martial arts to fucking
Starting point is 02:40:54 cycle through and pick up moves from and you can have a fist build viable with different styles that'd be super cool so China Neo coming soon wo long wo long and yeah that's about it also I'll say this whatever this launches as over time it probably will just become something even better and crazier and become more of a beast I have the DLCs stranger of Paradise is probably not getting as touched is it it's not getting the Neo treatment but that
Starting point is 02:41:42 probably has to do more with the publishing right like since that's getting a bunch of DLCs they're just not done yet okay because if they treat that the way they did Neo that'd be awesome but I would love for that to become the gold standard for team ninja stuff very cool all right shall we take a couple letters yeah let's do it okay oh before we go before we go further I just want to say did you see that Amazon is saying that its entire streaming future is resting on the success of Rings of Power
Starting point is 02:42:18 oh my god what when you said when you said Amazon earlier whatever that's why I started to lose it oh like okay okay good oh boy get ready to fucking say goodbye to Amazon's fucking fucking stream for TV and movies the one the thing that I did here was Amazon was potentially talking about acquiring EA and that it was whoops nevermind that was a non story nevermind exactly so it didn't bother going into it but huh well bet in the bank are we always always a solid it's good stuff good stuff
Starting point is 02:43:02 good stuff I like that I mean I should probably just fucking check out House of the Dragon and see if there's anything there but god I just I don't know if I'm ready for that space in my life again you know what's that what space is that that's the the new the new Game of Thrones thing like I'm like part of me is curious but I'm also just like I don't I literally didn't even know what you're talking about when you said House of Dragon new Game of
Starting point is 02:43:44 Thrones show started all good yeah the incest gang yep all of that and I'm just like fucking like Jojo's about to come back why am I gonna fucking waste my time here you know I could be watching Sandman or Better Call Saul like I don't fucking want to probably watch Better Call Saul yeah yeah yeah I would want to watch no it's pretty good but I dropped off in like early seasons so I do need to resume because I hear it's now like fucking exceeding and surpassing all expectations so yeah that's it
Starting point is 02:44:18 like you know you could fucking Game of Thrones but why not just go watch like some of the good shit going on like though like that or Sandman you know so I mean if I'm hearing good things about Sandman and like the comics are fucking incredible some of the best ever but I also read them so long ago that I barely remember anything that happened in them so I'm in the perfect place to start that show and enjoy it especially since there's differences between the two
Starting point is 02:44:48 hmm um if you've got a letter you can send it over to Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com It's Castle Super Beast Mail at gmail.com tell us about your horrible media blind spots that people seem baffled by Franchise is in need of sweet sweet video game love dear
Starting point is 02:45:12 video game Burton Ernie saw a few days ago that we just passed the 10th anniversary of Transformers Fall of Cybertron and I remembered the hype train for that game was incredible seeing the initial trailer gameplay High Moon Studio at Botcon all year and then having my friend pull up some strings to get me the extra code for pull some strings to get me an extra code for G1 Optimus pre-order skin when the game itself came out I
Starting point is 02:45:39 definitely wasn't disappointed it was great me and my friends took turns playing into the wee hours of the night on the first weekend huge Transformers nerd most of my life ever since I saw the original movie even as a kid with little space or money for figures try to keep the cartoons movies and so on only real bangers that came along in terms of okay however it's always been weird that how few Transformers games there are for almost a 40 year old franchise there's only a few
Starting point is 02:46:07 that are good they're only real bangers are the Amada game on PS2 High Moon games from 7th Gen Platinum's Devastation all the others range from neat like that DS game based on the first movie to outright terrible like Beast Wars games on the PS1 I noticed that you neglected this game is real bad I noticed that they neglected to say the Game Boy fighting game Beast Wars which was a fun ass little basic bitch fighter I loved it seems really weird doesn't it a series about
Starting point is 02:46:39 giant robot warriors turning into all manner of vehicles and animals should be ripe with potential for pretty much every genre of game imaginable where's the Transformers open world game where's the fighting game where's the telltale narrative game at this point I'm so starved that settle for a Hasbro platform fighter or Fortnite skins yeah no blame Hasbro they give out the license and they say here's $4 and it's one of those things where because it's such a long big toy
Starting point is 02:47:06 franchise it's been around forever the license is exactly the license is kind of worth nothing it's just it's handed out to anybody that throws a half decent pitch at them and then makes nothing approaching that pitch on when they deliver it and they're fine with it being something that'll get fans to pick it up on a curiosity hate it and then move on and then four years later we just do it again you know so some things unfortunately are too saturated as licenses
Starting point is 02:47:35 and this is one of them what's a franchise you love that needs to be that needs more or better video games well I mean shit something that's not already done decently that's that's right bionicle it needs another good video game that series has had long-standing incredible potential and it has gone unrealized I mean I haven't talked about it in a while before today until when we're talking about nostalgia but it is kind of weird
Starting point is 02:48:16 that there's no real solid Gurren Lagann video game like yeah I was thinking of Gundam as well there's a million Gundam games there's a million Gundam games there's some really good ones some are the one that I want which is zone of the enders but in the Gundam there's some really good ones that are fun you know the multiplayer the stuff but the breaker stuff you know there's some fun stuff out there for Gundam but it's it's really weird that Gurren never really got anything solid
Starting point is 02:48:47 because it feels like it would translate pretty well over action-wise to a game I'm seeing I saw cowboy bebop pop up there but I wouldn't think there is a cowboy bebop game yes and it's not bad it's not good it's bad the PlayStation 2 one yeah that was something of reminiscence I want to say and that came out right alongside Ghost of the Shell and Gungrave and Samurai Shampoo
Starting point is 02:49:14 but and Full Metal Alchemist as well that era of PS2 anime games but like cowboy bebops awesome I don't think that needs a video game I don't think it's the kind of thing like it can get a shooter like but it doesn't I don't know like it's so hit or miss maybe with the vibe of a game for that it's so strong in its narrative the action is there it's it's it's I wouldn't think of it as a as a franchise that's like oh yeah that's a sure thing for a video
Starting point is 02:49:47 game you know kill a kill got one and it's like yeah that makes sense it's a big old tournament arc for the whole thing but when I think about Guren as well like I got nothing I just it feels like yeah that that absolutely should just scale upwards and you know would be a really fun single-player action game um weird anyway um there's probably others out there but I'm gonna I'm gonna go I'll go for a lot if if DBZ
Starting point is 02:50:25 sorry if DB fighters had not existed I would have said Dragon Ball which is funny because there have been like a hundred Dragon Ball games but none of them were like yeah Dragon Ball and they were like oh yeah okay and then but now we have the the good the good one finally if you 30 years if you were playing a Yakuza style Cowboy Bebop game running around the streets of Spike talking to people that is 80 that is 20 to 30 hours of Spike
Starting point is 02:51:00 mischaracterization waiting for you in all these conversations where you go Spike wouldn't do that Spike wouldn't say that this what the fuck like it would be yeah it would be so easy to get it wrong you know no I have no I have a I have a don't even it's called it's called yeah Cowboy Bebop and takes place on Ganymede and you play a private detective and it's disco Elysium and you never ever ever ever ever meet anyone from Cowboy Bebop there you go sure fine
Starting point is 02:51:34 done it just happens to take place on Ganymede yep put us in the world you see you see the bounty poster at like or you see like a bounty that is from the show at tops but you have to have some strong marketing to get across to the people that hear about this that are going to be super mad that spikes not in it why spikes not in it because fuck you I know and you're right fuck me but they still need to hear why you know that's the
Starting point is 02:52:19 reason I said it I said it out loud but that is absolutely the way to treat that material with respect is to just stay the far stay as far the fuck away from its characters as possible now you've got me yes use the settings that could work for a bunch of things really is like power of the setting will carry you write it good use it don't fuck up the actual existing cannon there you go transformers unfortunately it's just it's
Starting point is 02:52:51 it's too saturated by Hasbro on that yeah and basically the more popular the licenses the more often they're likely to go oh we don't need to fucking do shit for this the kiddies will buy it because it says the transformer on it fucking kids don't know shit here's one coming in db says during game versus post game completionist recently picked up Arkham asylum in city remakes on sex ten dollar combo deal and remakes
Starting point is 02:53:36 seems solid took me a second while going through asylum I ran into a problem did my best to get the ridler challenge stuff and I went through the game but going back to kill Joker teeth was causing problems since I'm literally only missing one or two they unusually come up in groups of three so I have to check every single spawn point that sucks wouldn't have had a problem if that I'd gotten them all if I didn't leave any so should I have been a completionist and went
Starting point is 02:54:07 through the game or save this sort of thing for when the main campaign was over to collect items which methodology is usually better the best the best one is to not give a shit at all I say that as somebody who has extreme compulsive yep urges to 100% these things I say this as somebody who got every feather in assassins creed to using a spreadsheet and a picture that I was marking off feather locations the best thing to do with anything completionist in all these
Starting point is 02:54:44 games is to not give a goddamn shit failing that the best thing to do is to ask someone who has gotten the game beforehand is there a feature that will help me ping the locations of shit or point me or I can track or whatever if the answer is no either don't play the game at all or go ahead and break out that fucking completion guide and fucking get a piece of pen and paper out and just start checking them off as you get them I'm in favor of not giving a shit and
Starting point is 02:55:23 enjoying whatever the game has to offer you just as you go through it with your own leisure may or may not be under your control I understand so if it is that's why that's why number two on the list was don't bother with the game at all you're right like that that like I'm at the point where number one is don't do it number two is don't bother and then the last one is fine do it I guess if you have to like stuff like Witcher and Spider-Man where everything on the map is just
Starting point is 02:56:00 here it's here you go go here do you want do you want every question mark to go away go here here's the question mark you go there you do it it'll be gone if you go there that's a more reasonable alternative that being said if I'm being locked out of content or interesting tidbits it is made easier in a world where YouTube exists and I can just look up whatever the fuck that was and catch it in post as well which is becoming more and more the norm as I go through anything like I'll look
Starting point is 02:56:31 around if I find it I find it if I don't then oops whatever and if I'm not lose if I'm not locked out of any really good cut scenes dialogue or endings or moments then fine if I am I'll look it up a perfect example in Dead Space I think I found almost every note room except for the final one as you're pushing the marker so I just happened to walk through that door and that locked me out and it was like son of a bitch that last note room oh well there it goes I'm already pretty
Starting point is 02:57:04 strong it's not going to lead to anything who the fuck cares so I think I think what might have been the worst like brain goblin thing for getting things in any game to date is the the potion recipes in Witcher 3 where it is a gigantic supermassive open world game and they're like do you want enhanced black blood potion there's two spots in the universe that have it there's two hmm do you want superior swallow well one spot in the whole game you can get it will that create
Starting point is 02:57:45 a consumable that you only have one of no the way it works in Witcher is that every time you rest use alcohol in your inventory to top off all your potions okay alright fine which is the actual really good solution to that problem hmm should I even ask why a bunch of people were screaming about pang in in Dead Space yeah because there's always pang okay so to me pang is a poster on a roll with a lady on it that says no matter what there's always pang
Starting point is 02:58:21 there's a there's a there's a pang item you can fucking find in zero gravity in the loading dock that gives you an achievement okay well because there's always pang aha okay cool thank you it's just a stupid little recurring gag yeah got it got it got it um one last one over here Donovan says your algorithm hustler and react stream scammer last month in India a group of farmers organized to create a fake cricket league they were
Starting point is 02:58:59 uniforms of real cricket teams added fake crowd cheer noises to stream and broadcast the games live on YouTube they got some Russians who were I who I guess would bet anything to bet on these games the masterminds had walkie talkies that would communicate to the umpire and the players to rig the outcome and maximize winnings this went on for two weeks until they were shut down by the Indian government but they made almost four thousand USD some people have been arrested right oh that's good in India too
Starting point is 02:59:31 the way the rupee oh man that's that's big dollars but the question remains hustle or scam that is absolutely a scam it is without a doubt it is a scam clearly it is but so the idea right and there's a source here with the story and it seems that the scam is directed at the Russian gamblers and if you are scamming a scam op do you automatically get upgraded to hustle via double negative not scam because scamming a scammer might be a double negative it might upgrade you into a hustle clean scam
Starting point is 03:00:22 targeted hmm I don't know no no no I don't know it can be a justified scam but no it's a scam it is a rigged fake cricket league you know here let's see let the I'm I'm I'm I don't know man I need more data I'm kind of thinking okay Russian gamblers were duped by a fake version of the Indian Premier League cricket a group of farm workers pretended to be the players reaching the quarterfinal stage before authorities figured out the con and arrested the organizer hmm fake rosters fake
Starting point is 03:01:11 games they were promised 400 rupees per match okay they had the fake crowd going now I say fake crowd fake crowd noises and there's footage of the YouTube live stream with fake crowd noises now okay the bets how do the bets take place this is kind of what I guess it's going to come down to they take live bets over the telegram channel and then they'd instruct the umpire over a walkie-talkie to signal the opposite of whichever way the bets were that's that's obvious that's such a scam
Starting point is 03:02:02 that is like laughably a scam that's such a scam dude oh man okay okay yeah no dude like that's a rig desk the broadcast included the voice of someone imitating a well-known Indian cricket commentator and the commentator was amused when he saw the news oh they in the first installment of bets they made over 300,000 rupees before the authorities shut down the situation the players agreed to cooperate with the police gamblers from all over Russia hmm I've never seen it oh here we
Starting point is 03:03:00 go quote from the article I've never seen a scam like this these guys just cleared a patch of land deep inside the village and began playing a match beaming it onto YouTube and making money through gambling uh even though local even the local villagers were not aware of this we know very little about the Russians who are putting bets on this game god damn dude oh that's a scam what a scam that's yeah all right all right fine no a scam right there that's big old scam yeah I will
Starting point is 03:03:35 but I will institute I will institute a house rule that like when you are when you are target scamming someone who is attempting to scam you that can be a reverse hustle you can double reverse a hustle out of that situation okay all right the refs are gonna call it that's a yeah that's a scam it's it's it's it's in the article that being said um I mean that being said how many times you gotta call this a scam before you like whoa whoa could it be no it's it's a scam
Starting point is 03:04:15 but there's there's there's some hustle to that scam that you gotta respect no all scams are hustles you gotta not all hustles are scams right right right you gotta but not every scam that's the thing is I would have thought that every scam is not respectable right up until this point in my brain a scam was not to be respected a hustle was to be respected but I have introduced into this is a respectable scam no the the respectability comes from the the craft not the not the
Starting point is 03:04:53 morality hmm hmm but but also no but the end take on for example the pizza hustle the pizza delivery hustle was that everyone walks away happy right no it's the morality of it it's whether or not there was an active active deception duplicity there was no duplicity in that people just kind of tipped and we're happy to get their pizza a little bit earlier all right all right yeah that's a good one pizza one they assumed they did assume there was no there was no deception
Starting point is 03:05:31 um where was that yeah thanks Donovan good shit okay so uh yeah that'll that'll do it folks okay everyone have a good week make sure to check out Willie's react shit on Friday and mine on Saturday you know it be really crazy if they sent us the same things and then they could they could compare us we oh my god yeah and and check the I guess that I'm gonna make a Twitter thread and I'm gonna make a Reddit thread and we'll see how that goes I I I look forward
Starting point is 03:06:24 to it can you tell how excited I am yeah I can you look you look you look more excited than you've ever been that's the excitement you want oh no

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