Castle Super Beast - CSB 185: Sidetalkin with Goatse

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I I am so happy that we are doing the podcast today for no other reason than it means I am working on the day I'm supposed to be spending in morning. Oh, is that is today the Canadian day? Oh Today is the day that I was gonna go down to the bank the bank is closed Because big boo who cried cry for Queen Queen? Well, you got to get in the queue You know and you got to do that I was gonna head down to the food bank But it turns out the food bank is closed
Starting point is 00:01:16 also if You've got any hospital appointments or anything you get fucked loser. Yeah, so that's that's good times Um What better way does what what better way to mourn a passing monarch than starving some pours? Yeah Yeah, look at them. They're hungry. Oh Look at them go Yeah, there's there's been you know a surprising amount of clips of
Starting point is 00:01:51 British people that are like yo fuck this and taking opportunities to like let him know that I'm surprised I didn't know there were that many anti-monarchists It's it's literally 5050 Like it the England England is a wash with with with division in the House of Commons And And just a hard cut to footage of river dancing in front of Buckingham Yeah, letting them know I've been told that that was a green screen or a fake, but I don't care Um, I want them to tap dance on that old broads led coffin
Starting point is 00:02:31 Well, welcome to Castle Super Beast your weekly roast of the video game industry. That's uh, oh, yes Good week. Wally. We found out Ken's not divorced. He's he's he's escaping the law He's a he's a he's on the run from some allegations Whatever they might be we'll find out in the future as I said on my stream a new definition of supercancels No, yes That's good. Hmm. I like that. Hmm We have to make a decision by the end of the podcast as to whether or not he is on the run from the law for
Starting point is 00:03:17 Stealing the Grand Theft Auto 6 or Streaming a Nuzlocke We don't know which could it be? Oh, it's impossible massive crimes the masses the the masters corporation as being Investigated for Also a win quote that implies some dirt involving Kimberly's dad, I think He's like, yeah, you don't want to know about this kid stop asking questions. I
Starting point is 00:03:46 I would love it so much if like you go through Ken's story mode and it turns out he was like Involved in some kind of NFT. I mean the masters the masters corporation There's a lot of things and if you want to take this to the modern day There's a lot of ways that a company could go down All you you know, yeah, yeah, there's definitely a whole corporate subplot to to Ken Gaiden that you know Involves business meetings and that we can love it. We can just love it. Mm-hmm. You can let your brain fly on that one Yeah, so no Street Fighter 6 news is hot and popping there is a lot of everything news I thought we were gonna just get the like hey
Starting point is 00:04:33 Here's the brief little world tour trailer and gs and oops. Let's just Accidentally show off every character in the game, which you know what that's like I said, that's the kind of After the leaks happen you kind of do that that makes sense You just soft acknowledge it and then you still haven't shown off gameplay. You still haven't shown off trailers You know have reveals every reveal for each one of those cast members are still gonna be exciting But we're just gonna you know head it off at the past and show you the screenshot And that allows them to do something like show you the intro to world tour Which is that little spoken word beat?
Starting point is 00:05:12 That was pretty sick This pretty good. I like that a lot, you know that yeah, someone said like oh Street Fighter World tour intro directed by woolly. I'm like, yeah, you're not wrong. You're not wrong It was it was pretty nice very you know soulful very chill like Splash graphics fun ideas and a nice way to set up the tone for the single-player mode Yeah, we got a let's just let's we'll get to our weeks after this for Street Fighter Street. Yeah So Overwhelmingly so this game's been in development for a long time. I remember hearing about this game coming out like three years ago
Starting point is 00:05:54 it's it's they've been working on it a lot which was not what happened with five and Every single thing they show is a direct counterplay to the sparsity of Content that five had. Hey, do you want single-player content? Not here's not just a story mode Here's a character creator open-world Fucking entire ass virtual quest video game. Did you want stupid gimmick shit? Here's a bunch of stupid fucking gimmick battles You're getting attacked by barrels and bowls and shit. Do you want an online thing?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Here's your big fancy online thing from the ground up. Do you want something that you don't know that you want? Yeah, fuck it. Here's an entire Capcom arcade collection just over to the side Now over here Capcom presents the deonification of Street Fighter It feels like a Smash Brothers game. There's a lot going on and There the yeah the world tour now that we're seeing a Feature list of just how wacky and crazy that's gonna get go hang out with the people do all the stuff Yeah, man, that looks like it's gonna be a fun mode
Starting point is 00:07:15 It looks like it's gonna be a fun way to just run around. Oh, there's the the the new generation A bonus stage basketball ring basketball court Let's go fucking play there and then like have a fight then let's run down to Haggar Stadium You know all that Metro City shit like everything is looking like it's gonna be a proper wacky mode leveling up I saw when we when looking at The the character creator there. There's like levels so you're gonna absolutely have that It's a proper sink your time in and and just whatever you do for the love of God Please keep playing this game even if you're not fighting. I think I
Starting point is 00:08:02 Think the craziest part of it is like hey like Super Turbo and Vampire Savior are visible On the cabinets and I think the absolute most feature rich insane thing I've seen a fighting game of all time is hey while you're waiting for a match. Why not play some vampire savior? Fuck training mode now want to play Super Turbo while you wait for your matches of SF 6 It's gonna be it's gonna be limited to some degree There's no way they're gonna saw you a collection and then also give you everything here, but Yes, that's like like Smash Brothers. Here's the legacy I think the craziest thing is the fact that Blanka might not be a charge character anymore
Starting point is 00:08:52 No, that's that no, that's definitely gonna be the remember this is the easy operation Doesn't matter you have to put you have to make a charge for the move to be fair So Blanka has had easy operation inputs before in well not in recent games Like for example when you go back and you play the current legacy collection With like Vsav and ST on it if you do the shortcut inputs for Blanka it automatically makes you store a charge So you can't have a charge character do a walking forward sonic boom. It breaks the game It doesn't it's not meant for them to be that way unless you balance them around it when you're seeing him in neutral You see him go from standing still to a straightforward ball
Starting point is 00:09:33 And then you see you see him going from from the the toy cross-up to a hop into a rainbow roll And both of those should not be possible without a charge You know what you're totally right and I'm like, you know, maybe they that it's not just the easy operation thing Maybe it is just because Blanka having a little electric fuck toy to throw down Mean it like he is now eat like it's like mechanics are great If Blanka changed not at all Literally nothing at all from five Except for the fact that he can throw his little electric toy on the fucking screen
Starting point is 00:10:12 That character goes from a traditional charge character to a completely Nonsensical setup shenanigans Okay, I can everyone both like Everyone has shown extreme concern about the fact that Blanka has a bunch of Blankachan toys Which he can set up now, of course, you it's a two-step process one is throwing the toy out two is electrifying it, right? the And you have to spend a resource to get any variation because a normal electricity makes its walk forward slowly It's like a can from birdie with extra steps
Starting point is 00:10:48 If you do ex you spend a bar then it hops up and down And then if you spend a super it'll fly upward diagonally, right? So one you got to spend something to he only gets four of them That's plenty man. There's only four in the little Blankachan times four meter under his life bar So you're not gonna get to do that a ton, right for all we know that's four per match There might not be even a restock You know like Kimberly with the with the spray can't I Think by the way that Blankachan becoming part of Blanka's character is maybe the best thing that Street Fighter has ever done in its entire
Starting point is 00:11:30 Fantastic branding, right? He's been wearing some but some busted up pants for years. Okay, so he switched them for overalls He shaved the sides. He became Way more of a just he's kind of got like a redneck vibe going on with the the mullet And when you check out the portrait on on for him on Street Fighter comm like the official one it looked like I like the energy of just like that that The kind of semi it's it's a Shinkiro's Blanka art, right? He's got that semi dignified face while still being wild But the whole thing is that one gameplay wise he's got this limited setup thing So yes, if you see the footage of him
Starting point is 00:12:12 He grabs the Blanka toy it bounces on the ground and then you can send it forward while you cross them up, right? He also seems like he doesn't charge so he just does a straightforward Blanka ball And now he has a jump back aerial downwards dive kick Blanka ball, which is crazy shit, right? That's that come on now. What's the deal? Why would he be this crazy? Well? Here's what I think. You know what? No footage has shown at all whatsoever None of it including the round all of it. He never does an up ball. I Think the cost of all of this re-kidding that he's getting is because they took up all away from him
Starting point is 00:12:54 Up ball is so good. It's one of the most important things ever and I think they took it away I can't find a single instance of it. I'm looking on I'm looking anywhere. There's no move list out yet There's three clips. There's the does the world tour clip There's the extended little like here's what we did to him and then there's the matches they played and none of those three you by the way Who don't know what an up ball is it is a a Brawley projectile that goes in the upper right or upper left corner of the screen. It's like a sure you can but for Blanka Yes, so up ball is exactly. It's Blanka's sure you can move. It's charge down for two seconds up and
Starting point is 00:13:32 Kick and he'll do a ball that like flies upwards and knocks you out of the air and it became His most important move. It's a super good. It's a reversal It's in it's crazy fast. Yes, so I haven't seen any footage of it Therefore, I suspect that they took that away in order to give him this down aerial dive kick ball and also make him a Non-charge character. I suspect that's what we're getting And beyond that Dalsam looks fucking cool
Starting point is 00:14:07 Dalsam Dalsam's existence with these new systems like even in the trailer They're like what if Dalsam hit you with a counter hit from full screen with his fucking kick Well, you could get in there. You can now just get all the way It just crawl your ass all the way across the screen during hits done Dalsam existing with this new aesthetic is Actually the best implementation of it yet because one when you parry with him He gets this like the whole screen goes dark and everyone kind of glows with fire
Starting point is 00:14:40 But for him if you check it out his head glows with enlightenment and you see like multiple Buddha palms beneath him Well kind of like they look like Buddha palms almost, you know, I mean it would probably be more apt for it for it to be the Shiva but And like he has this really sick like enlightened pose of like I called out your attack and I'm parrying it And now you're not gonna like what comes next, you know and then
Starting point is 00:15:11 You get the shot of him saving your character in world tour from getting trampled by an elephant So where he puts the one finger underneath the elephant Foot and then pauses and and like you get that glow So good, and they finally did it. They gave him a loofy slash star platinum punch rush for his super Yep, yep Gummu gummu know whatever it's called. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. He does the big old stretchy Kakatakoi, you know take it and like you got all that Honda
Starting point is 00:15:48 Just maximum sumo again even further. Yeah, he's got they and they didn't take away any of the stuff They gave them in Street Fighter 5 either. So he's got the buff that makes him do an actual hundred hand slap to you He's got a launcher. He's got the salt all that shit is there. So Yeah, like everyone is kind of and like with Dalsim as well. They gave him everything. So they gave him In Street Fighter 5 Dalsim Changed drastically to become a character that like could do more in the air But they took away his headbutt drills the yoga mummy and they took away his ability to do a straightforward yoga fire Unless it was an ex fireball
Starting point is 00:16:30 Now he has the ability to do both straightforward fireballs as well as the arc ones That he used to be able to do And then he can do all the drill kicks as well as the yoga mummies with his head So he has all the different air trajectories back. They're giving everyone everything Ken yeah has all the crazy kicks and then he has extra crazy kicks and he has ex crazy kicks into a new kicks Like they're just letting you have all of it. Yeah And I suspect that the idea behind it is give everyone the most complete toolkit you can Even like working in their V skills for free and then parries will still be parries. I
Starting point is 00:17:12 need to see What Gief and the other grappler actually have because I'm looking at Blanca and fucking Dalsim's nonsense and I'm like I don't want to live in this fucking world as a grappler like I mean Dalsim's throwing fireballs in upwards diagonal lobs. He's got Full script like what give who I better have green hand back I mean listen
Starting point is 00:17:42 Here's what if you're looking at every one of the other characters which all the eight world warriors have been revealed so far except for Gief right so of the entire original cast What you'd have to look at and see is they all got everything they ever had and then it's some new shit, too Plus plus a little easy code an easy launch confirm into a level one super as well So Gief is gonna get everything he's ever had Then a couple new things and then an easy launch confirm into a level one super one I want banishing fly, you know, I was never the biggest fan of banishing flat back in the SF2 days
Starting point is 00:18:20 Mm-hmm the inputs a little strange and all that and then for it was just like the craziest thing in the world Just like the his combo machine and his fireball anti-fireball stuff and fire comes out I you know, oh my god. I need banishing flat back so fucking bad I don't know I live in a goddamn world without banishing flat You're gonna get you're gonna get banishing flat green hand in the form of a knockdown You're gonna get it non-knockdown. You're also gonna get the flex and walk from five You're gonna get the maybe not maybe not the spin like the suck in You're gonna get that for sure. He's they didn't take any way anyone's tools, dude. Everyone still has all their five stuff
Starting point is 00:19:03 You're not only gonna get the Vortex suck in you're gonna get the kick counter as well Which he got as his his as a later on VT2, you know, so our VS2 rather So like yeah, you're getting all the things you're gonna get air SPD and Then some new shit, you know, maybe Maybe the the dance kicks that he did from Oh my god from Pocket fighter and ex ex he did the stomp stomp stomp. Yeah, maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:19:40 But you're getting it all you're getting it all And strange man Then yeah in world tour we got to see a little bit of the intro where Luke introduces you to your rival and Yes, he's gonna just like Luke. Okay, it's interesting because there's shots of him like in the background Kind of cheering the fight on and as he becomes more of a silhouette The the weird synth all hands become more of a problem Like I feel like the further away he the more he the more of an outline he becomes the more the juiced up
Starting point is 00:20:15 You know forearms are are weird, but He's around he's your coach look at Luke ever and he introduces you to What was the character's name? There's a rival that's again a world tour rival that has got like a spiky kind of cool hair with like a little like Two little ponytails cool. Mm-hmm Bosch. There you go boss Who reluctantly shakes your hand? Um
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah, and and you know I get the impression that like you're gonna run around you're gonna meet the world warriors in world tour You're gonna learn moves from them and they're given respective areas or You're gonna run over to the big Hagar Stadium. You're gonna play multiplayer ranked there on the cabinets or you're gonna go to the shop and you're gonna spend your fight money on Tons and tons and tons of cosmetics and that'll keep you coming back and Yep, if if Capcom Was gonna play it cool They should absolutely confirm that you're fight funny from from your fight money from Street Fighter 5 carries over
Starting point is 00:21:28 That would be really insane if they wouldn't but it would be really cool if they did You're nuts. I know but how are you considering it? It would be so cool if they did that You know, I don't expect it at all. It'd be cool They just gave me a million dollars in a new car too Well, it represents currency from like, you know from playing the game ultimately, but yeah, there's no way there's no way they would All things considered though if you can still Purchase things by playing and spending the time and having that whole economy workout, you know that then then great that'll be cool But it is a a world tour mode in a full-priced game. So
Starting point is 00:22:13 Don't be fucking stupid about it. Obviously. Let's let's you know, I am very excited for the CBT in three weeks and Getting to see their built from the ground up again netcode Mm-hmm Yeah, and then like system-wise we saw a little bit of like we saw like to Drive cancel not drive cancel. So whatever the focus attack. We saw them clash You know when you cite you sync them together
Starting point is 00:22:47 There's one shot of it what looks like it looks like Blanca doing a coward crouch and then he drive cancels it into like a forward dash into a crouching medium kick and He looks like he's wave dashing forward. It's insane. I Don't know if like That's gonna be unique to him because of his coward crouch But like it's like right after the clip of Blanca and Ken clashing their focus attacks You see Blanca do like it looks like a wave dash into a into a crouching medium kick And I'm just like that's that's that's nuts if you're if you're letting him do that
Starting point is 00:23:24 So, yeah People are getting a hands-on with the build as well that is I think it's only got Ken and Gile in it like not the three Characters they've announced And so we're seeing some some footage of like what Ken is like in depth and Yeah, man, it just feels like give everyone everything and then Learn how to parry and that's how you deal with the problems of everyone having everything I can do that. I Could relearn how to parry
Starting point is 00:23:59 Maybe I can't I'm old now well a lot older I'm a lot older than the last time I learned how to parry you're old But if you parry correctly you have a full second to do something I like that the game stops to say you parried. What do you want to do? Like it gives you so long to choose your next action You know Including just doing a focus attack getting a crumple and then you know doing a bread and butter So like that'll probably become the automatic thing is like, I don't know what to do
Starting point is 00:24:33 Let's just go for a crumple and then figure it out So, yeah, real real interesting with the Street Fighter 6 info What else did they do oh They dropped all the names of the characters on Twitter as well I'm shocked. I'm surprised. They showed off so many characters Were there any new characters that we didn't know about I? mean officially all of them
Starting point is 00:25:06 But yes, I really actually love that that they just went ahead and was like fuck it Yep, that's what you got to do and what's fun, too is like some of the little You know every time a character gets announced that you're seeing like here's their here's their stupid game face Buttons of black of being like, you know like making all the the the reactions Jury staring you down before the fight and what just came out now, which is hilarious is Jury has a wind pose for a round one or so where she goes And then yeah, and then just starts laughing to herself like Stupid shit baggast yeah, it's weird cuz Jury Jury is more go-than-go because virtual fighter characters are not allowed to have
Starting point is 00:25:59 personalities hmm but It's not just her don't forget Luke and Reakin You know so it seems like you throw fireballs old man. That's cool. It is cool Luke new character is shitting on the old Is the order of the day? Thank you
Starting point is 00:26:24 It's a cool thing to do I Would like official acknowledgement of all the things that Your cousin used to call street fighter moves over the years Everything ranging from all you can to Madukin To tight tight to do can That's in my house, that's what it was it was Madukin all you can and tight tight to do can Hey, will either you have familiar with the what's it called the Hori EX stick that's for the fucking the Hori fighting stick for ps5
Starting point is 00:27:08 Which one That what color is it Hori fighting stick alpha alpha? It's blue I think so let me see cuz I'm just sitting around going like I don't have any fucking ps5 sticks And I don't want to have to fucking run through any nonsense when that CVT comes out the white combo I bought two of them. They're good. Oh Do those do ps5? Yep ps4 ps5 fuck. We're gonna get a white canva Eight arcs still selling them. They should Yep, those are those are solid. I also want to grab want to get a hitbox just for fun just to get used to it
Starting point is 00:27:46 I Might actually think about trying to get a hitbox. Yeah, cuz I saw that video that people were retweeting about Gile doing his super in a single frame. Oh, yes. Yes, exactly. And I was like I was like All that looks fun to do so that's the thing is like I mean besides being easy on the wrist like that Okay, I talked about the antagonist here before right You did not talk about the antagonist and somebody asked me to ask you about the antagonist Okay So the white condos do ps5 this thing says only ps4
Starting point is 00:28:26 The box says ps4 ps5 on it and I've been using it for the ps5 You're talking about the pearl or something else. Let me let me just confirm Canva Canva pearl, no, I think it's the obsidian. I think it's the obsidian actually Hold on. Hold on. Let me let me just let me just run over. Oh the pearl what yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's the stick Okay, I guess eight arc just has not updated their shit yet I've been using that for our yeah for fire for ps5 stuff Conva pearl. It's a good stick
Starting point is 00:29:05 So so the Yeah, so there's basically been some developments happening with Hitboxes which are leverless arcade sticks. There are arcade sticks where the actual joystick has been replaced with four buttons Because that's like a keyboard like a keyboard Except the up the up button is below where your thumb goes for the space bar because that's just a more natural resting position That's become the bit more of a standard thing and people are using them more and more because one less stress on the wrist and two
Starting point is 00:29:43 Inputs are actually a little bit quicker, right? So to to make this as as as understandable as possible I'm gonna say if you think about charging a sonic boom in us in this in like Street Fighter 2 You hold the joystick all the way at the back and then you have to bring it to forward, right? And the process of going from back to forward with your wrist There's a neutral involved so you go from the back to up which is neutral then forward and then you press punch And you do a sonic boom But if you're using the hitbox all you have to do is hold what the equivalent of your back key is so a the a button on your
Starting point is 00:30:18 Keyboard and while you're holding down the a key you just tap D Which is forward and press punch and that skips the actual neutral input allowing you to do it the move faster right so People who have learned how to play that way are doing are fighting or doing things that people on a regular joystick can't do and It's a slight advantage at the highest level Anything before that anything that's more like you know beginner intermediate. It doesn't make as much a difference for you It's really just a matter of preference You can play on pad and be comfortable and fine a lot of people aren't on pads or beasts
Starting point is 00:30:57 But it's it's it's particularly at the like at that level. There's there's a a slight improvement on your speed getting that move out because you don't have to Manually hit get to neutral essentially There's been different ways of of trying to like Compensate and one of the things they managed to do is like they have a Joystick where there's direction buttons on the stick as well So if you wanted to switch between the two you could to try and get like you know If you're if you're playing normally most of the time you're fine
Starting point is 00:31:33 But for doing a charge move like that you want to get it really you want to get it out faster. You can switch to that button so Hitbox put out a stick that has all the those extra trimmings and stuff and it kind of looks it looks crazy when you look at it Because it's a stick with like four extra buttons on it and then a joystick on top of that You're like what is my looking at hitboxes look silly as fuck just to start and then on top of that Like extra buttons on top of them for extra directions are just the thing looks hilarious so So and it's you know and it's this is it ends up being similar to the discussion of like playing
Starting point is 00:32:14 Using a keyboard versus playing using a controller or something to that effect where it's like Keyboard is going to have certain advantages that a controller won't and vice versa You know and depends on like what the game is how much those advantages will matter, you know If there were for example Something requiring analog input then a button might come in handy for that That's an analog button if the game cared about that versus a keyboard that cannot really do analog It would have to like throttle it somehow, you know But anyway, so fast forward
Starting point is 00:32:47 There's a company that came up with something called a the antagonist Right, and so what that is is it's if you're holding the joy. It's an extra button you install so you put it on your joystick and Whatever direction you're holding it hits the opposite of that when you tap it contextually Okay, so if you're holding back and you tap the button It'll become an in a forward input or if you're holding down and you tap the button It'll become an up input and what that does is it makes. Oh, I'm looking at it. Yeah Oh, it's gross
Starting point is 00:33:22 And so what the point of that is is to just make you make it so that you can do exactly what the Hitbox players can do. However, it doesn't do the exact diagonals. It only does up and forward As as in like w and d on the keyboard It's not going to do w and d together because the hitbox doesn't do that right, so it's restricted to the Basically the the cardinal direction Opposite of what you're what you're holding so in function what you end up with is not anything at better or advanced or necessarily like
Starting point is 00:34:01 Uh Like on like no, there's no double input occurring It's giving you exactly what hitbox players get to do Right that is cool It's smart and it's I and it's the type of idea that like the when they came up with it It's like, okay If stick players wanted to get to that level and like have this be there as a oh fuck I like I can now use sonic booms at the same speed, you know type of thing
Starting point is 00:34:29 That would be that's like one elegant way to do it take well Elegant you have to kind of install the stick so there's a bit extra steps to it But it at least restricts it and keeps it, you know Um so that no one can install it for now Yeah, but it but it makes it so that no one can't do anything Uh that the other player can't do everyone gets the level everyone is on a level playing field With that button, right? Um But what capcom announced with the the tour the pro tour is that uh any
Starting point is 00:35:03 Sticks that have more than one input direction on them Uh are not allowed and if you that makes sense and if you're playing on a gamepad, which technically has two by default um You can't have a duplicate button of like forward or up or down or back it had You know like it has to just be an analog or or um Or stick button And and like oh, but you can't duplicate any inputs, you know, so that's that's the way they're playing it and it's like I understand that seems kind of strange because hitbox lets you do the same thing
Starting point is 00:35:40 So what capcom easily right a little goofier though So I understand because this is a bit of a complicated subject your brain is trying to go hold on everything was fair and now some people have better advantages and The way to actually look at it is like Well, what this was doing was making it even because when you don't have this now It goes back to being lopsided for top players in that way, right? um So now what you're gonna have is people who are essentially like well
Starting point is 00:36:08 Might as well just switch the hitbox completely then because that'll be the best advantage, you know, um And I so let let me ask you as somebody who is me I'm me um What would be the advantage as a Average player for me switching the hitbox would it just be easier on my hand? Do you have wrist pain? No, I don't get wrist pain. I get finger pain. Okay. Um, yeah, that's it. It's it's easier on the hands um
Starting point is 00:36:38 It'll be a more it'll be less stress in in in in the long run And depending on the type of characters you use You might it might feel better. So for example Um doing a sand geef 360 is a matter of just rolling your fingers across three buttons Let I have a really stupid question. So pardon me asking when I look at a hitbox or any similar hitbox There's always the three Buttons that I'm talking the left side of the stick right the directional buttons There's the three buttons on the left side and they're kind of arrayed
Starting point is 00:37:12 Classically one two three in a row and then there's a larger button on the bottom I'm gonna assume for your thumb Um What direction what is the thumb button and what are the three at the top the thumb button is up? And that's basically up. Yes. It's a space bar So it's left down right and then up precisely and the point of that is absolutely for keyboard people It's it it is it's a space bar And the the benefit of that is it's your natural hands resting position
Starting point is 00:37:43 So you want to talk about not causing any stress on your hands. You don't have to Make your middle finger go to where w would be Um, you just use your thumb which is not doing anything to naturally rest on that button furthermore in fighting games up is um Not used as much as those other three are Oh, not nearly right not even close exactly. So as a result It's a it's a it's a more it's it's it's a it's just resting where your thumb is
Starting point is 00:38:14 You're very deliberate when you want to press it and what ends up happening is if you want to do a spinning power driver You simply roll from a sd space bar and then that's a 360 Yeah, I see it And the end the button obviously. Yeah, and then the button. That's it. So it's like does that just And and and um that mean for a 720 I would just hide it in another input and just hit asd space asd and i'm done Yes
Starting point is 00:38:51 No, hold a and go hold hold a and go Uh sd space sd space Hold it. Oh because Oh, that's That's strange because this is what allows what happens is whatever button you're holding You press another button and you're holding a
Starting point is 00:39:15 Then you press s your character is now crouching And then you let go of s and they go back to walking backwards Man, do I have it in me to learn another new input again? You don't have to you don't have to like you're I know but it's cool. It is cool and it's been and and honestly i i've Like watched how um, for example my my my friend pedro Who's like a programmer and like he types all day and he has he plays piano and like he plays uh anime games and like uh playing at like high level um arc accent core and shit was like busting his wrists up Blaze blue was busting his wrists up and like you have to take a look at some characters
Starting point is 00:40:02 Are way more brutal than others on inputs. I I really can't stress how much nagariyuki is Explosive on your wrists, you know Because like all of his cancels all of his dashes all of his combos involve you rolling like five six seven quarter circles out really quickly um back to back and
Starting point is 00:40:28 you You're doing a lot more of that than you usually would with any other character. So um What that ends up doing is he was having wrist pain and by switching to a hitbox He managed to let his wrists heal over time Because the doctors were essentially like hey, dude like the more stress you put on this Though the longer it's gonna take to heal, you know, so for me, I don't know if it's the way I hold it or something I've never had wrist pain ever for playing games
Starting point is 00:40:55 Uh, I once I once got horrible shoulder pain From a fucking Assassin's Creed games from holding the trigger down for hours and hours and hours like the parkour button Mm-hmm Fucking Assassin's Creed 4 black flag gave me a minor case of frozen shoulder because of the amount of time I had to hold the trigger and I was holding it too hard as well um, I've gotten I feel like so I'm using my arcade stick less out of laziness and noise
Starting point is 00:41:27 Right simply because I don't want to like, you know wake punch mom up with like large loud clicking and shit at night Clickety-clacks. I've been switching over to pad more often. So I play about 50 50 now. Um On pad versus stick and like, you know, that's been fine for me too Uh, but yeah, any any time you're playing an intense character and you're using a joystick with it There is that concern of like if you're starting to feel it in your wrists a little bit You know, don't don't push it certainly. Um Yeah, I'm looking around the only uh, officially licensed stick for ps5 that currently exists is that horry one Which makes sense, right?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Uh, the all the candle ones are like Uh, it works on ps5, but it's actually game per game Um, well it works on the system level on the ps5. So yeah, I know but people were I asked on twitter while we were talking And people are also saying that like a certain like certain arcade games do not actually work Mr. Driller does not work with a canva. Okay, uh, for whatever reason, um for what it's worth though So you've got a it has a switch between Uh ps4 and pc uh as well. So like you you can also switch between those for your needs and and and you know I would probably just grab the horry and when hitbox is because hitboxes don't
Starting point is 00:42:50 Uh, they're not officially supported by ps5 either yet Maybe I'll grab a hitbox when they are What's the deal with hitbox? Is that an official? Is that like a real company or it's a real company? But it's not guys in their garage. It's a real company, but it's not an official stick in the same way that canva is not an official Uh, uh company, but uh an official stick rather. Um, but canva also canva also used them That's why they were able to make uh, 360 ps Hybrid sticks where the original canvas were like literally both for 360 xbox and playstation What the hitbox is though, you're gonna have a hard time finding uh them because they sell out really quickly
Starting point is 00:43:27 So I'm looking for one too as well. Um And but but for me, it's mainly just like a a like It's like a curiosity. I want to just get used to yeah same here. Um, I did get sent a mixbox um some time ago, uh to to investigate and that's essentially It's like a hitbox except it's literally Like WASD on the keyboard Transplanted onto the stick talking about that. That seems like a sick thing for freaks Yeah, that that's out there because there's but those there's a bunch of freaks who like were born and raised
Starting point is 00:44:02 playing fighting games on keyboards actually Like yeah only via emulator only via fightcade Uh, there's never been a controller or a stick in their house And they they learned in the ways of the laptop on mugen and now they're going to tournaments And that that's their stick of choice It's wild um But yeah, uh, ultimately though, you know, what's what's nice
Starting point is 00:44:27 I I'm happy to to report is that like I've got that fighting fight sticks 101 video. It's still relevant But uh in general it's going to come down to the parts but at the end of the day It's becoming much more of an option You know the feeling of whether you need one whether it's mandatory what to do It's like it's entirely up to your preference. It feels cool. I enjoy it. I like the feeling of a stick Um, but it's absolutely not a mandatory thing anymore And in some cases like some games like dragon ball for example dragon ball feels like it's designed with a controller in mind
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, absolutely Mortal combat the pad layout on that game is a little strange actually Sorry, the the stick the stick layout. Yeah, things are way over to the side Anything that Involves you pressing like hard punch and and special together, which is like thumb wise. That's a part from each other But on the stick it's they're just two two triggers And then Mortal Kombat as well where like x-rays are meant to be l2 and r2 like it's oh they've all Mortal Kombat's always been for pad
Starting point is 00:45:33 Well minus the arcade machine with the block button in the middle of your even even the arcades were for pad So, yeah, you got to have an extra finger coming out of the middle of your palm, you know um And there was an old guilty gear double x machine that had like a weird placement for the dust button That was just like up to the right. That was just like that's Fuck that. Why would you do that? Yeah, but um in any case? Uh, that shit's cool. Um, you can look into it if you if you like, but it it's it's all the same now, you know um, and uh, yeah street fighter six
Starting point is 00:46:11 Uh, I I want that blank a move list. I need to know if he can get back dolls and I need to know if he's a charge character um You may or may not find out soon Depends who's in that uh in that test. Yeah Um, so there's some other stuff in other companies, but I mean I might as well go into the weeks Uh, so What's happening on your side? The only thing of note that's new this week
Starting point is 00:46:41 Is uh, I played metal hellsinger. I got a code for metal hellsinger. So yeah makes this tech technically hashtag sponsored because I got the game for free Yo metal hellsinger is fucking incredible It's tony hawk put heavy metal, but you also shoot a gun That's it. That's the game. That's what the game is. It's great. Did you play um bp? Or the other one that's not bpm I played bpm and I think uh, I did not get very far in bpm because I fucking Couldn't stand the fact that the game it looks like it's on an old monitor all yellow and it has one one color It's like a single fucking like I I I can't stand it. Um
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, metal hellsinger is fucking great like the weapons feel good the music is fantastic The mechanics associated with you keeping your score up are great It has a bunch of extra levels uh for challenges and perks and whatnot. It's great. It's it's great. It's good game Okay, so mechanically excellent good game aside from the the yellow filter on on bpm Um, was it like pretty much the same setup? I don't remember enough about like when I say I bounced off bpm. I mean within like four minutes Okay I was like ew gross not playing this
Starting point is 00:47:58 Okay, delete well, because uh mechanically bpm was fucking cool and the the shot to the rhythm beat um aspect of it was Very It was it was dope. It worked out quite well in a necker dancer kind of way Where like instead of like learning to move and dance on an attack on the rhythm You have to learn to like reload and shoot on the rhythm You know and I saw that metal hellsinger kind of had that vibe to it from the trailer
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, you're shooting on the beat. You are Reloading on the beat. You're dashing on the beat. Okay, so it's yeah It's mechanically the sound executions on the beat. Yeah, it's great It's great good game excellent game Highly good game. That is all I have to say So from that I didn't really do anything that interesting this week beat pray pray still great beat. What's your one? What's your one has a great goddamn ending? What a fucked up game for weirdos
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's it starting batman this week tune in fucking tomorrow night for batman You got a music solution To what? To the fucking claims Yeah, the fucking yeah, I will dispute them and if they don't fucking dispute I'll just go okay Enjoy your ad money on this fucking youtube archive upload freak. They're fair enough
Starting point is 00:49:29 okay Um the loose the solution is fuck it I'm so fucking tired of fighting with youtube's claim system. It all you always lose or you ruin the fucking thing It sucks It's it's it's annoying and it's like at this like Depending on how big the company is like it's like wb claiming batman music Hopefully when you dispute it, they're just gonna be like, I don't know a robot did that who cares and then just not fight back, you know Hopefully
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah That's not been my experience. My experience is we just I dispute it and then within one second they go no No dispute wrong Run ads on video enjoy And I got great. I'm glad I use this automated system with no humans excellent. Yes We are a shitty fucking punk band and we totally invented the music from paper mario
Starting point is 00:50:31 Yes, we own this. Yeah, it's us. Yeah, no I'm a russian asmr company and I invented the sound of leaves Yeah, great It's good. Um, okay Um, so, uh, what's the what's the schedule for that? Oh, if you want to go down, uh, I got batman tuesday and Saturday doing reaction on friday and on thursday. I'm going back to uh live alive And you can check that shit out at twitch.tv slash pastures it Uh
Starting point is 00:51:12 Live alive Live alive. Yes Uh, cool. Okay. Um similarly not much over Uh on this side the main thing like I you know, I've been talking about drum over a bit and I'm still I'm still playing a bunch of that but um Notably, uh, so I had um getting to fighting games jumped in and learned bridge it um
Starting point is 00:51:41 Got to have some fun with her kizzy k came on to kind of show us the character because he switched Uh from kai over to bridge it and I'm like, okay Let's try to see what's going on. Why why the The switch, you know, um Because we were making the analogies of like, you know, if you're a character loyalist Are you just going to go down with the titanic playing the violin? You know, or are you going to jump on one of those fucking floating cabinets and just get away, you know, and uh And uh, yeah, no, it's uh
Starting point is 00:52:19 Bridget brisket biscuit uh Bacon whatever other names have been been popping is uh super fun and interesting as a character if um It's like so far you've had all the dlc come out and be like I said very particular Uh up until bike in where you're just like, okay, it's fucking bike in the go in parry go nuts But you still have to be kind of nutty to be like i'm gonna tether us together and hope that this doesn't lead to Uh me dying right away because you can do extra shit to me now like double potbusters You know, um
Starting point is 00:52:57 But uh in terms of the moves and the toolkit that she's got you're able to really um float and be anywhere on weird angles using the uh The yo-yo and then the yo-yo like location Fucking return
Starting point is 00:53:19 Uh setups that she's got so, uh, bridget basically has um Like the skates, you know, she kind of skates forward and then like you can choose to break or to do a follow-up attack She's got a dp and then there's like um A command grab which is nice and tricky It can go from like out of a calm command grab command grab
Starting point is 00:53:44 And you can do it from like buttons into like a little hop grab caught you sleeping Or in the air you can do it and it's count, you know Remember kanji air to ground tackle pop pop pop. It's like that Um, but if you let it go in the if you let it go the button go in the air It's air to air grab and if you hold it all the way down It's air to ground. So I love that. Yeah the kanji tackle exactly um So then you get uh the main thing
Starting point is 00:54:17 She's doing is throwing out the yo-yo and then you can do a like homing Dash towards the yo-yo location And at any point after starting the homing dash you can jump out of it. You can Press a button. You can cancel you can do anything you want. It just counts as a jump that shoots you towards it Uh, and that allows you to do a bunch of weird trajectory shit that you can't do normally You know because fighting games tend to have a fixed sort of you can jump up jump back jump forward And then like you can super jump and guilty gear lets you play with that by air dashing and and um, you know Roll canceling and roll canceling are seeing uh roman cancelling and stuff
Starting point is 00:54:58 but uh bridge it more than any other character gets like just aerial freedom to like fly at you and and Do dirty shit. Um, so that adds a lot of fun. Uh, and I can see how like Just having that freedom is like ooh that that feels like She can do things other characters can't do and you're like, okay. I like I like being able to move this way the cost is that uh She's weak as fuck The combos do very little damage. So you have to hit and confirm multiple times. Uh, you got to work and then also Um dies quickly, right very little guts. So
Starting point is 00:55:36 Uh light character, you know hits light takes a beating but uh, you get to be slippery with it and It felt felt a lot felt like it was a lot of fun It felt like by you know the the end of the session Like we're getting the hang of it and it was like, okay. Yeah, there's there's some stuff here
Starting point is 00:55:55 That is enough to be annoying You know and and to keep the pressure on throw the yoyo out sometimes you can make the yoyo either hit on the way forward or wait to hit on the way back And just a little fake out of it flying at you and you have to stop and block But it didn't hit you is enough to like mess with your opponent, you know Um, so yeah, well, what the fuck is brisket brisket biscuit, uh bacon
Starting point is 00:56:25 Baba ganoush yorkers Just just doing that shit again Um every single word that starts with a b and ends with a t Is now a name for bridge it bucket. Okay Okay, I got it. I got it budget. This is fucking stupid. Yeah, got it excellent done So uh basket is also out there. Yeah, just it just it's there you go, uh, but that's it Um, and then we did some sets online um
Starting point is 00:57:00 And yeah, I had a really had a really fun a little First of five with kizzy and then reggie played as well Uh with that that millia and touch and strive again. Just you know, I'm like, yeah, man. Still fun. Still good and um They are They are being very nice to nago ryuki, you know every time I every time I come back and it's like, uh, yeah Yeah, nago is still doing okay
Starting point is 00:57:28 They they they helped him out with the blood problem a couple patches ago And everyone else is kind of still Figuring out what to do. They got touched, you know, people got nerfed here and there, but nago still The patience pays off It's it's the type it's the type of situation where This happens rarely in fighting games, but we've talked about it Maybe at least once before when you learned how to play nago ryuki when his blood was harder to control It made you really good at being very restrictive and patient
Starting point is 00:58:01 And when they then improved that blood control, it just made you take the weighted clothing off Right because all that resilience and all that patience just it fucking you can't nerf the player So that it now it just gives you extra gas because you've learned how to work in under harsher conditions Which is super cool. I love that feeling That That remind we're all wait until we're done with with guilty gear But that reminds me of something else that I would like to bring up go for it Okay, so do you remember last week? This might be the most poorly timed thing
Starting point is 00:58:38 I've ever talked about on the podcast Your last week I talked about 14 how some classes were so much worse than others that was numerically impossible to clear the new content I do remember Within like two hours Of the end of that podcast They're like we are taking the game down for maintenance and we are going to nerf that encounter by like one percent of its overall health Because we are aware that some group compositions cannot clear it, but the fun part
Starting point is 00:59:13 Was the statement they put out was very politely worded and very careful But essentially was well, we have our balance team do it and then And then we we base we base the the boss fight and the numbers around the balance team and it looks like We overestimated the player population's ability to do damage or something like that and the general consensus was The devs are going like sorry y'all are trash skill issue like skill issue garbage
Starting point is 00:59:52 and Then they so that that was ongoing for like five days And then they they put out a way Way bigger statement that went into way more detail about the dev The way they they designed the the the fights and how they they get the numbers And in that is the phrase we have typically balanced the game under the understanding That the top players in the game are much better than the balance team However, the balance team has gotten too good and did not take into account blah blah blah
Starting point is 01:00:31 So even though they do this massive like oh, we didn't mean to call you guys trash Here's how if you look deep enough you can still find them calling you trash still um, and it's it's fucking hilarious and Uh, they made it. Uh, they made it. They they buffed a couple classes that were really feeling it but um, I had a I had an issue with this where
Starting point is 01:01:03 On sunday, I was playing with my friends and we're doing some content And I have a buddy of mine who plays reaper, which is currently the worst damaging melee dps He used to play ninja, which is currently the top performing melee dps, right? So on a whim He's like well, why don't I switch out? From reaper to ninja Reaper had he had been feeding it gear for four weeks It was as high Powered as it could possibly be
Starting point is 01:01:36 Ninja was using like old shit from like six weeks ago And despite the fact that he didn't know his rotation Correctly and was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just doing old ninja shit He out damaged his prior run by like 10% It's it is it is the what like it is the difference between I am bleeding edge this shit with the best possible versus Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I uh, what I fucking okay Like stupid like they brought the boss health down, which is nice
Starting point is 01:02:15 But they didn't fix the core problem, which is like this class up here and this class Way down here Way down. It's fucking stupid Um, it's funny because switch from reaper to ninja absolutely sounds like an overwatch sentence there Absolutely does. Um, no, but that reminds me of the the old I don't know if you remember the old lies about The the the the capcom dev team and to some to some greater extent Many fighting game devs as well beyond capcom kind of have this there's an invisible lie
Starting point is 01:02:55 that Was very important and it was the idea that any of the play testers and the devs that worked on the game that like uh note that helped uh, uh the team balance are They could win evo if they ever entered. They're super freaks They would absolute they're Unknown killers the absolute best players in the world are not the people you see winning the tournaments It's the ones who work for the company and that kind of little invisible idea Allowed everyone to go. Oh, therefore the balancing is going to be fair
Starting point is 01:03:32 Because the best people in the world know what it actually should be Yeah, if if it looks like it's horribly balanced, that's because you just haven't adapted yet. Exactly and um I remember it got to a point even where like that started cracking over time when you know, uh, uh players started, uh Some of the people that started working for the companies were people that used to be players. Certainly. You're like, okay Well, I I I literally know I saw your tournament placing I know how good you are at this game and you know, that's not you're not a guaranteed winner of any of evo every single year and then like there was um also times when devs would come to evo and they'd hang out and like they'd do um just fun matches on salty, salty sweet streams and
Starting point is 01:04:18 Like if a dev is hanging out and like losing to a top player on a stream Then it's like uh-oh Now top players are the ones that should be able to tell the devs what they need to do to balance the game because clearly They're more skilled and this just becomes don't worry the balance people are i still remember in 2012 getting to meet and hang out with dave lang for a little bit and just Trashed him at dive kick just Dumpstered him first time I ever played dive kick
Starting point is 01:04:53 and like just beating Fucking poor dave lang into the dirt and yes, this is before he died. Yeah Um, and I remember like consistently going like okay, man. You can start come on You can you can stop taking it easy. Come on. Let's have a match and he's like I am having a real match. Yes This is real. I'm not messing with you and I'm like Okay, let's uh, let's leave the balancing to keats. Yeah, well the rest of them You know, uh, uh, sometimes you sign the checks, but you don't exactly uh, yeah, you know, that's that's what you're good at So that came up that came up
Starting point is 01:05:31 That it was he was actually it was more like no, I'm really no I am come on. No, it's that's a real come on Skill issue say the devs. Yeah That's funny Skill skill issue say the devs is always really really really fucking funny when you find out that no No, it's dev issue It was it was the it's the fact that uh for 14 anyway, I'm pretty sure different classes are balanced by different people I think that is the case And that because sometimes you get a good rework and sometimes you get a bad rework and it's like how is
Starting point is 01:06:11 How is the same people reaching good decisions with this one but bad decisions with this one? I mean It's different balancing a game Where it's not about like the impression I get at least with 14 words. It's not about um Outplaying it's about Perfecting a sequence and not fucking up. So it's like more of like a rhythm chart, right? Yeah, now there's there's obvious changes. So it's like should like if on if you're playing Uh guitar hero or rock band on expert should fucking up one note
Starting point is 01:06:49 um Like kill you Maybe not should how many notes should kill you how many in a row versus how many spread out, right? That's a different type of balancing See that's a really interesting point that you bring up because There's two types of balancing that ever that has become a large disagreement with the dev team like from the overall community The first of which is that in the past they have said well if the job's harder to play it should probably do more damage, right? so
Starting point is 01:07:23 More buttons per second should probably end up with a minor damage increase because getting that uptime perfectly Should be more difficult, right? The current reality is the the easiest jobs right now are actually the strongest by like a huge margin um, and the other is uh Do you remember? Oh, do you remember? God, what was it called the fucking the lady tax and fucking capcom games for health? Where if you were a girl you could not have a thousand health. Yeah 900 in a ton of capcom games
Starting point is 01:07:59 So 14 has a version of that where they say Um ranged classes classes that can fight from range Should do less damage than classes that can't fight from ranged because their uptime is going to be 100 percent Right whereas if you have to move out of the way of bullshit Well, your uptime is not going to actually be 100 if you're like a melee. What does uptime mean? Uptime means literal how many seconds of the fight are you hitting the boss? Okay, if you have to move if you have to move really far away from the boss for a mechanic, you can't hit the boss right
Starting point is 01:08:34 Because of some changes to encounter design now the the bosses all have massive hitboxes and everybody has 100 uptime But the ranged text is still in place Right, okay, because that but yeah, okay that boss didn't delete that thing. Yeah I see. Yeah, it's like well the melee guys to have 95 100 uptime Do they really need to also do five percent more damage like it's it's funny Yeah, and this is also a game where you can just where you're creating a new boss and a new challenge and a new set of rules every time That has to work with everything you've established so far. Yeah, it's it's there's all sorts of fancy little
Starting point is 01:09:17 Problems with the way like this balancing works So the most interesting thing by far is dancer and how hard it is to buff how to do dancer Sorry, you were going to say something. No, I was just going to say that like in competitive games um you can balance balancing and put competitive games is like introducing a new type of chess piece to the board
Starting point is 01:09:46 And reflecting how it works in play Whereas what you're describing for like an mmo is actually introducing a new board With the same chess pieces on it and that's a completely different fucking way of balancing things There's also a social aspect and that's where dancer comes in because it's actually very strange Dancers a class that it doesn't do as much damage as barter machinists, which are its role Brothers and sisters, but what it does do is give you a damage bonus to somebody else in the team So you go, hey, I would like to pick let's say a samurai as my dance partner
Starting point is 01:10:25 Samurai gets a 10 buff to crit or damage. I forget what it is exactly, right? But your overall damage is not just your damage. It's also split by buffing somebody else, right? what happens is is that Uh, under all equal optimal solutions It would actually do the same amount of damage to say machinist The issue is that when you're actually doing progressive rating or you're you're doing that You're feeding the highest damage character all the best gear Which is then being multiplied by the dancers buff
Starting point is 01:11:01 So now dancer is doing a disproportionately higher amount of damage because they're buffing the one person That's getting much stronger faster than everybody else But that's a really fringe case and only Applies to highly specific situations, but it's the situation that it matters the most So how the fuck do you bounce around that? Do you make dancers weaker in most content so that they're equal or maybe a little bit better in the highest content? or
Starting point is 01:11:32 like And what also sucks uh or not sucks, but I imagine what also gets factored in is like The legacy of a character and what it's been over the course of the game And what that means to people and not like straight too far from that as well There's a huge amount of if i'm just passionate and I don't care about what dancer ever was or used to be I can just be like, oh, yeah, here's your solution and then people are like, but that's not what it's about or it ever has been about Yeah, no There's people like paladin is is a fucking mess right now like paladin sucks
Starting point is 01:12:04 Um and people go just switch to dark knight and too many people who play paladin They go, but I don't want to fucking play dark knight. I want to fucking play And The pat it's it sucks because paladin is worse now because they buffed other classes and not even it's competitors The way the damage works in that game is that like oh dragoon or or fucking ninja They put out a damage buff for everybody. They decrease the boss's defense or they fucking Increase the party's damage or they increase the party's crit rate whatever right
Starting point is 01:12:43 Over the past year they've made it so that all of those buffs are on a two minute timer So every two minutes everybody pops their buffs and they all multiply on top of one another right Which means you want to get all your highest damage shit within a 120 second window every two minutes The paladin has its rotations spread out over two minutes and five seconds it doesn't have It doesn't have the ability to dump all of its damage in 120 second window It actually spreads it all out. So because everybody else got streamlined all of a sudden paladin is way worse And because dark knight can dump every button it has
Starting point is 01:13:21 In a 15 second window, but just by mashing them all out Now it's way better It's it's weird. It's silly. They're gonna have to rework the whole class and that means that people who like the way the thing plays now Might not like the way it plays In two months Um Yeah, that's I get this this whole thing is a a Whatever the length of time it's been 10 year puzzle
Starting point is 01:13:53 um, and um It also i'm just thinking of the the all the When I the the the two seconds I was looking at warframe 4 and it was just like Uh, this frame reworked this frame reworked Oh, yeah, and how it was like this is not even like you're not doing raids with 40 people It's not even you're not doing any hard content warframe at all But even that required extensive reworking of certain things for just a simple pve experience and it's like my god, man
Starting point is 01:14:25 Like even in that circumstance where you'd think it would just be like yeah, it's pve. Who cares and it'd be like no you got even there It's an issue so Um somebody did make a really good point in the chat Which is like and this is all irrelevant for about 99 of the game's content, which is absolutely true But it does create a situation in which if you get all the way to cap right now We'll say paladin and you're like I want to get into high-end content You're starting at like A disadvantage compared to somebody who just picked a class that happened to be much better
Starting point is 01:14:58 And it sucks because the game historically has been pretty well balanced, but right now it's in our own rough state Um, I got I got lucky because I'm I'm playing like the strongest tank class, which is perfect. So hooray Uh, anyway, just to pray for me move on um speaking of balance I actually wonder what's going to happen with um With rumble verse if they're gonna like take things people are ignoring and buff them up a bit up Dog walk can I uh take a a little bit of a break? I gotta always stand up and take that dog out to piss. All right brb brb okay, uh, yeah, so
Starting point is 01:15:40 I'm actually getting some news here apparently cyberpunk is hitting 85 000 concurrent players, which is uh the Highest number since its launch in january because of trigger because of edge runners which
Starting point is 01:16:02 uh People are saying is pretty fucking sick. So I've been told that it is in fact sick I I I'm glad the trailer Uh promised sickness and then apparently delivered sickness I haven't watched it yet, but Can't wait to now that the i'm hearing about that too as well. But like yeah, it it fucking it looks incredible It looks exactly like what you know, they're good at so uh people are now jumping back into that game as a result and Uh trigger gets to take the credit on that one
Starting point is 01:16:35 Uh, so with the fixes, you know nice to hear that it's a better experience Um people always did say that like, you know, the story is pretty cool. It's just you know when the bugs are there It's a problem. Um, and with the combat rework that's eventually going to come. Uh, yeah that that that's that's nice to hear Things might work out I'm thinking i'm going to wait for that though. Um, if it's a massive overhaul in that regard, but i'm definitely going to come Check that out at some point Um anyway, I was just going to say that uh the um
Starting point is 01:17:13 The brisket bucket Uh spectacular Uh over on get into fighting games Uh, yeah should be coming out soon where we uh touch Uh and uh the game for the first time in a while learn how to play bridge it and uh, have a good time with it Um with kizzy k
Starting point is 01:17:36 So stay tuned for that And uh over on mass effect Picked up thane picked up samara Big justice vibes on the ship Um The one brain cell that that and the brain cell is screaming justice. Yes question I would like you to explain to me why your shepherd is pro slavery I
Starting point is 01:18:11 Am I I was reached out by many people to be informed that upon Negotiating a contract dispute with a quarry and You decided to go in on the the intimidation for indentured servitude the slave broker the slave broker Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Okay. So yeah, since you're getting play by plays Of of of every decision i'm getting like detail updates. It's wild. I love it. So the slave broker uh mission. Yeah, we did that one and uh The the the conversation you have with the broker is just like here's everything about why It's totally okay. And while we prefer to use the term indentured servitude and how do you feel about this slave and the slave's like
Starting point is 01:19:01 Oh, I don't know. I gambled. I shouldn't have done it Uh, I guess i'm gonna be a slave now unless unless you know, and then it's like well, you've got to go talk to the person over there and um So you go talk to the uh, the the the rep at the other company and then you have your Intimidate option then on your and your your charm options Uh, both of which appeared to be I'm gonna force you to hire this Person so that they don't have to stay working for the slave broker
Starting point is 01:19:34 And uh, both of those involve them getting like contracted in some way Uh, is what it sounded like um and Me of course knowing that like I don't want to get fucked out of any of any options in the future I'm also, you know, I'm being pretty quick on the draw with the renegade because I want to make sure that I can you know not be
Starting point is 01:19:59 Whatever the thing about hey, you got to commit to something. Otherwise you get fucked in this game I'm I'm aware of that too. So I'm you know, I'm playing it the way I'm playing it But I'm also leaning towards not getting fucked over. I have that in the back of my head But both of those options appear to be you better hire this quarry in or else right and uh Going the renegade way is like or else we're going to accuse you of uh of racism and some wild shit Yeah, and she kind of mentions like oh, well, you know, we kind of don't really want to hire indentured servants, but Okay, and then you kind of like smooth that over to which afterwards people
Starting point is 01:20:40 Kind of Went off and popped off and were kind of saying like there is a way to free her But oh totally I do buy out the contract. Well, I Based on those two choices. It felt like they were both forms of we're going to force her to work We want you to get that job So in both cases it seemed like freeing was not a direct option. Therefore we ended up with what we got I wanted to bring this up because um
Starting point is 01:21:06 One it's fun to ask you why you're pro slavery. That's just a fun thing. I didn't know what those choices were the second thing Is man, this is like the biggest problem with the bio air By far Like by far like it like the scenario you just described Is the problem because you're incentivized to go red or blue a lot Maybe not all the time but a lot and then the the thing that you get Is it enough to make the decision?
Starting point is 01:21:43 In cotor you had the whole line of dialogue and it was pretty clear So in this case it turns out that like if let's say from the jump you're like, you know, this is fucked up I'm a free this slave, right? You would want that to exist at step a b and c To push that direction of like this is what I think But because you're you're going with the the choices they give you in that conversation with her you're getting two forms of higher this slave And then the actual free her step
Starting point is 01:22:19 It seems like or at least it it my understanding is it comes after Convincing them to hire her then you return to the original slave broker and then you go. Hey fuck off free her, right? It's but it's it's like it's behind choice system It's it's been behind the step where you have to agree to the hiring to begin with It's this massive choice system that actually always boils down to hold the analog stick in this direction for every single Right, right, right, right. Yeah That being said What I am disappointed is you didn't push that motherfucker out a window
Starting point is 01:22:59 Oh that yeah That some of the shame on you. Well, you know, sometimes the reactions will be slow. What can I say? It is what it is. You did get you did get uh, you did do thane's Whole mission you got thing on the on the gang got thing on the gang. That was cool Um, based on I mean means you encountered my favorite interaction in the whole series, which is shepherd I thought you were dead Uh, remember again against the asari girl Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and he says I got better. I got better
Starting point is 01:23:37 She's like, yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's perfect. That's great. Mm-hmm. Um No, uh The way that's played out like there's been a couple that have been like, uh, so it's like rt prompt and I'm like Is this gonna be a murder button or is it gonna be an intimidating button? It's usually murder, but sometimes it's not and then other cases like is this gonna be a stop the murder button Or just gonna be like what's like I'm like, uh, uh, you know, and so it's like, I don't know But based on the fact that like this is type. This is what's happening constantly. It's like, okay Hit one or the other or don't whatever. I don't know man, but
Starting point is 01:24:16 You it's just we're we're bumble fucking through this thing Trying to guess what's gonna happen and in most cases I'm I don't know in most cases what I think is occurring is what I don't think is occurring or If you really really want to lose your goddamn mind You need to go and check out dragon age two Which has the most insane version of the bioware formula dialogue wheels ever because it's an icon It's like it is it's a funny face or like a brain or like a fist And it like interpret this art
Starting point is 01:24:57 It's it's fucking crazy How little you get so some of the weird shit too and then again, this is Uh, uh There's stuff Where and like I can't describe how strange it is to any of you who know the future for me who doesn't How weird it is when you have a moment like garrus's garrus's mission Where he's like tracked down this fucker that sold that betrayed me and he got my team members killed Right and you're like, oh, yeah, fuck that guy and then on the way you find that drunk from the first game and you're like
Starting point is 01:25:33 Oh that asshole. Yeah, fuck you, right? Um Break his knee whatever. Um, and then it's like, okay, here we go And then there's a bit of an energy of like garrus. No, don't Don't lose yourself. Don't go too dark, but also no really fuck this guy though. What a piece of shit Um, and then it's like, okay, so here we go. We're gonna do it and the game is like do you want to Maybe stop him. No, okay. All right. Well, we're going forward with it And then when you get to the point where you meet the mark and it's like
Starting point is 01:26:03 You can tell the mark that he's under attack and make him run away and i'm like That's the most insane possible thing to do in that moment walking up to the target in the oh, yeah With no and then the only thing is that well the fact that they keep maybe saying maybe you want to maybe Is like there might be more to this but you're just kind of like Supposed to feel that out And then I suppose and then like it's like, hey, there will be content perhaps if you don't get him shot in the head But all sides point to shoot that fucker in the head
Starting point is 01:26:38 So like you have this insane prompt at the last minute Where it's like don't like warn him. It's like why the fuck would I do that? There's nothing pointing towards why I should At all there's nothing dubious that that led to it's like garrus is on a mission here for a reason based on the fact that His people are fucking dead and if that then did lead to oh well what you would find out It's like yeah, but that's all in future knowledge You can't know the future man. There's There's two the the problem you're encountering is there's two so the game has Uh internal knowledge run evil person run
Starting point is 01:27:15 It has internalized knowledge which is the the expected video game consequences of your actions within its own Setting so within mass effect 2 what would you expect out of this? Right, but that gets deferred in the mass effect series. It gets deferred twice There's what are the events That will likely take place about this in the future Who knows the only thing that you do know for certain is dead characters won't be back Right and then it gets deferred again
Starting point is 01:27:52 Which is but which dead characters could have come back Oh, okay, and that And that's the that's that's the the reason why they do all the stats and so many people play paragon in general Because be the good guy get the good ending what what what random ass dude shows back up in two or three Is is a coin flip Uh, yeah, some of them send you an email in mass effect 3 that is look i'm still alive We're getting those in two Yes, we're getting those into email and two and then the other stuff where it's like, okay. Did you meet this npc?
Starting point is 01:28:35 Um Then and you help them then you're gonna see them hanging out here otherwise dead silence nothing no content You know i uh i ran into a variation of this Obviously minor because i've done through one and two a million times But i ran into a variation of this one i was going through two In which i was doing choices the same way i'd always done them
Starting point is 01:29:00 Only to get new pushback of no don't And i was like why Yeah No, some stuff works out differently going an alternate path from the way you might have chosen like you'd be surprised Um some things end up seemingly to be fine Even though you would assume that it would be the worst thing ever by Straying from the paragon route, you know, um, it depends on which one it's actually really frustrating
Starting point is 01:29:31 So so if you want to know uh with that, um That guard with the window Right that like that was just a classic. I don't know what that dude does So you you go through a bunch of eclipse guards, right? And then Um, you take the elevator up and then you're like, okay, so we know that we're heading towards the main office with, uh, What a sorry lady and that and we know that thane is around here somewhere, right? So It cuts after you get in the elevator and you're walking up to a solo guard who's on comms
Starting point is 01:30:05 Going like yeah, some he's around here somewhere something He's saying something on comms and you kind of walk up to him And the way the scene is kind of strangely directed with this solo guard for a second. I was like Oh, is that the new character in disguise? You know, it was just a weird it was just just because of the way he was isolated And you don't usually ever walk up to a normal person You know, it was framed in this cutscene to where I'm like, oh Is this cutscene introducing me to this guy and he's like in disguise or something like that?
Starting point is 01:30:36 And that's how he's sneaking in. I don't know. Whatever. Anyway, it was just a half thought And then I get it. Yeah. And in that moment it was so what does that guy do? I don't know what he says ever because every time I talk to him in every playthrough that game He turns around and go nope yeah, um Hey, I think he just you just scare him into like running away or you know Like tell me where the where the sure offices or some shit like that. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, um and and uh
Starting point is 01:31:08 God what and there was one other thing that happened in the next session where um You know when you're walking around the world and like suddenly a highlight will pop up pop up for like Talk to somebody by staring at this like location over the city or whatever Right. So you can walk by and like kind of miss that for two seconds or so. And so I was walking by and um I looked away from the screen because I periodically do a check of audio chat Screen stream quality is the thing still on everything. Okay. Yeah So I did I did one of those little cycles and I missed when that popped up and then it was like, ah blind
Starting point is 01:31:47 Fuck are you fixed? You've missed it. I'm like, oh fuck. Okay. I went back and did that. Yeah, and I was like, okay All right, and I was like, okay Don't don't don't do the check too often because you're gonna sometimes have moments like that in a game like this Where it'll pop up and you'll you'll you'll you'll have a half second confirm on that and if you missed it Then you'll miss it, right? Um So then I was like, okay and then keeping that in mind walking forward and then you go into the next mission And then in the next mission it was like, oh if you take this character, you're gonna get extra dialogue with you
Starting point is 01:32:14 For this, you know, so you should probably take this person and I was like, I'm not I was just like, no Let me focus on the thing. Let me ignore that that I dealt with in three and that started to become like wildly untenable because it was like Take this character or this character or this character and this character and then they all start fighting amongst themselves about which ones Exactly, and then it's like, what's the extra dialogue? Is it a single line of dialogue? Yes, probably it is It turns out it's a single line of dialogue Jack says that girl's pretty cool. And then that's it, you know, it's like, okay. Well You know, so the solution is to take
Starting point is 01:32:52 Uh, the the solution is just take garrus and tally with you on every single mission in every single game That's that's the actual solution Anyways, the the the the reality of the situation is every time I decide to announce that I'm playing something that I know is very Beloved and popular. I know this is gonna happen So it's just an expected part of the part for the course, you know, but uh Yeah, man, it is it is uh, like it's what I do like is the fact that um, despite the uh, uh chaos and fear and like
Starting point is 01:33:29 nostalgia Going through people's minds about how how bad things can go It seems like in the end for the most part The game's like guys, it's fine. No matter what it's like. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine I would I would agree with you 100 with one exception. Okay There is there is There is one Very very massive exception to everything will be fine no matter how it goes
Starting point is 01:34:03 Okay Luckily, it's the easiest part to redo if you're not happy with it, but then I guess the other thought about it is like And this is being real like this is a game That's beloved. It's pretty good so far. I very much can understand why There's limitations to how much freedom you can have Yet it's beloved for the amount of freedom it offered over its contemporaries And now what is remembered canonically in a lot of people's heads is the The right decision made's play through
Starting point is 01:34:45 But yeah, is that not the play through you've seen the most of watching other people up until now? Therefore, are you really hoping for the exact same one? The the issue is basically uh, it's uh, the issue is with three Right, the issue is always with three and the issue with three is that some some decisions were chosen To get a massive proportion of new content compared to others like stuff Right, so like I'm not going to mention which I'm not even going to imply but there's a really massive mass effect one choice
Starting point is 01:35:23 That feels like a gigantic big deal That is ignored Like laughably ignored. Okay It by the time you get to the third game, right? And you're like really I really thought that that would be a big deal And that that would represent a very different sequence of events, right? There are also comparatively Relatively minor choices that end up whether or not characters stick around or their personal arcs or how
Starting point is 01:35:54 What missions they can go with you on in the third game? Yes. Yes. Yes now that now that the whole series is out What's been discovered is like well the all choices are not created equal this choice while cool leads to A whole fucking thing not happening. There's one in particular There's a choice in mass spec too that swaps an entire character storyline with a singular Boss enemy that just has its name changed That's all it does. It just literally changes it to from like revenants to like a person's name Okay, and that's it. Okay, and then you it's it Right. Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:36 Well, um the series is a fucking mess. It's cool. Yeah, and and and you know knowing that That that there's these weird moments of like Um are both of these options. Is that blue slavery and red slavery? Well, I'm taking those red slaves. Yes, and it's like yeah, well, I guess I guess I'm taking those red slavery points because I could use them You know, um, and then it's like no it wasn't and it's like, okay. Well, it sure seemed like it and that's it actually, I actually think I actually think that the Um What you just described
Starting point is 01:37:10 Is like the biggest failure of that whole series Which is I guess I'll take the red slavery because I need the red points For the the important thing later That sucks so bad. So that's why I also enjoy The stop and talk in the conversations with reggie and the stuff that we do because it's like well Even if this choice is going to go out the way it's going to go because of game mechanics We can talk about it in a world where we had infinite choices and give it more nuance. Hopefully Um or other times it's like by having that conversation, which is the shit that I love about playing these types of games
Starting point is 01:37:50 It's like oh, that's an overthink or whatever it is. But it's like yeah, but that's just who I am That's just who I am guys, you know a really great example is that by going pro slavery You've had enough bad boy points to get the women's on your ship to stop fighting precisely Which is a kind of which is a kind of meta consideration this absurd and farcical Like that's nonsense. This doesn't make any goddamn sense at all yet. Here we are you know, um and and I I mean the the uh
Starting point is 01:38:22 The other thing too is like Yeah, I I guess I'm also taking again. I'm making a lot of the time. I'm making half-informed guesses um sometimes when you're supposed to be half-informed sometimes when you're not but Um, I I the game seems to have assumed you read every codex entry the time that it showed up Now I have and I we are taking our time going through every codex entry But it's also like a lot easy to forget things and such and yeah, you know so anyway um
Starting point is 01:38:55 Doing my best. That's all I can say but regardless We got samara. We got fein um Fun times aboard bird bussy. We got um Liz Liz are Liz us Oh, wait. Oh, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna go with thane. No, but I don't even think that's possible I mean, I don't know
Starting point is 01:39:21 Oh, okay. I didn't get that impression. Well, anyway We're deep in now. We're we're going We're we're going hard Into the the fucking calibrations So, yeah, that's why you got that bird bussy. Yeah, we calibrated um, which I found Incredibly refreshing and awesome because he's like garrus is like Wait, what really you want to geez? Okay. I didn't think but
Starting point is 01:39:52 Sure, and then you kind of go for further details and He has a conversation where he's like, you know I never really considered like a human being at all But you're cool enough that yeah, hell yeah, let's go for it And to me that is the opposite of the drums Yeah, that's the violins You know what because he doesn't actually like what you are or rather didn't consider it But he's down for your soul
Starting point is 01:40:26 You know, you know despite our laughably incompatible biology all the way down to the atom Yeah, let's give it a shot It's it's it's great. I really enjoyed that conversation, you know, you know what? It's it's funny because like the missions and like fighting over like oh big decisions That's cool and all But when I think of the stupid shit and mass fact that I thought was the most interesting. I think of that Uh, you went to ilium and did all the ilium stuff, right? Because you got samara and yeah I think of I think of the fucking human the fucking solarium and the turian. Yes
Starting point is 01:41:13 Like arguing which one the asari actually Yes, that conversation is wild and it's hilarious too because it immediately started a fight In the chat and the comments because people are misinterpreting or over interpreting are not sure how to read that thing So I'm just like okay That sounds like what they're implying is they each see her to be a bit of A bit similar to their own features, right? They're all anthropomorphizing asari And that makes me stop and go are we only seeing them the way we do because Of the fact that I am a human being playing this game
Starting point is 01:41:57 Well, because you're you're focusing on the human face, right? Whereas like the solarians are focusing on the head tentacles and the ridges and the and the skin texture And I forget what the fucking The turian is looking at but like So that's the thing and then like it's like okay now hold on Right, let's Is that that's just vague enough of a line that it opens it up to either being like there is a slight amount of pheromone blindness that's making you hyper attracted to the features that resemble you
Starting point is 01:42:30 I remember there was there's the implication that some people ran with which was shape-shifting out some kind of minor psychic field Like mental shape-shifting right where they're all where it's like oh turians are seeing a turian like shaped version of the asari And it's like yeah, that's great. That's not exactly it But the range of this debate certainly is open to conversation Um, but on the safe side, I'm going to go with the minimum level which is They are making you focus on and be attracted to the similar features Right, but but the idea that like each race is perceiving something slightly different as extreme and as nonsensical as that is for the galaxy to function Is kind of cool
Starting point is 01:43:16 It's just also logistically a problem when you have to think about Like what that would mean for inter interacting with this race over the course of thousands of years Is that the same bar where there's like a fucking turian getting fucking iced the fuck out by like a quarry in Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's like no man. Oh humans are the worst god. What an asshole. I would never treat you that way I Think that has like one of my favorite little fictional pieces of the mass effect universe Because it's mentioned multiple times even by the time you've gotten to it Which is the movie float and float uh fleet and flotilla
Starting point is 01:43:57 Uh, not I don't because he mentions it. He's like, hey, I rented fleet and flotilla. Do you want to watch it? Okay, and it's it's a fucking love story about the forbidden love between a turian and a corian nice And it's and it's like Like you imagine You're like, oh man that guy treats you like shit. What if um, what if I got that romance movie that we could watch about? Our people You could bridge that like what a fucking oh and she's in the middle of talking about how The whole process of having sex fucks up their their body
Starting point is 01:44:34 Chemistry and like gets them sick from diseases and it's not great and he's like, yeah, no, that's terrible. Anyway All right, and then also that's the same bar. We're right around the corner There's this fucking matriarch bartender. Who's a fucking badass? and She's like stomping on um What's that fuckers name cal or whatever not cal? Um Uh, the the loser who you put a gun in his face and one conrad. She's stomping on his balls And then you walk up and she's and you and she and you're like, oh what like what's your deal?
Starting point is 01:45:13 And she's like, yeah, my dad was a krogan. So, you know, I get a look at her and you like you see it in her face Yeah, and she will and you see she's also older and then you have a couple drinks and then she gets younger And it's like, oh man, this bar is great. That was a really fun thing that that Ilium has a lot of the best character moments in that series Uh, so let me ask you what which is hilarious considering how they fucking didn't even try to make it not Um star wars Like yeah, it's really starting a million percent. It's just coruscant. It's just coruscant in in uh in fucking um, what do you call it? In mass spec one when you ran into conrad. Were you a dick to him?
Starting point is 01:45:58 Were you nice to him? Oh red was reggie reggie put a gun in his face Live, so when you run into conrad now, he's like I can't thank you for my no No, thank you for putting the gun in my face. It made me realize how to be a badass Okay, so this is my favorite accident of the mass spec story. So, um Mass spec two had a bug in it and the bug was no matter what you did to conrad in mass spec one He would accuse you of putting a gun in your face In his face into right so no matter so no matter what happened you get the renegade thing, right? And you could go in with sale file editor and actually get the alternate version
Starting point is 01:46:40 Right, but yeah, no everybody who imported verner's like you fucking threaten to shoot me blah blah blah blah So in mass spec three If you did not threaten him But he accuses you of it in two He will apologize for For saying yeah, sorry. I said you put the gun in my face. You didn't oh Oh
Starting point is 01:47:07 Okay, they actually acknowledged the bug Yeah, that's hilarious. That's funny. It's great man Um, yeah, and then you know there's no that game has all this cool shit in it And it's like man nobody gives a fuck about saving the goddamn world from the reapers or the collectors or fucking whatever Well, it's funny because ilium is the planet. I expected the citadel to be what I landed on it, right? Um, ilium is actually content filled to like to bursting Uh, you walk by that volus. That's like I need a suit that makes me say that says
Starting point is 01:47:43 Powerful when I walk in a room and like all this You know what I mean? He's just like this big asking for all this bullshit and the asari is like, yeah, dude Sure, we can do that whatever you need buddy like whatever to fucking Deal with your insecurities and then at the end that'll be like, uh, uh, whatever like 200 000 credits He's like, uh, yes, of course, uh, let me uh, I'll be back later. Let me think about it It's just like fucking cheapskate, you know, like it's this It's It's this planet that is like
Starting point is 01:48:14 Um, welcome to Full on and captopia. You know welcome to wall street Uh, oh that just reminds me that's the same planet where you get to hang out with Fucking various alien dads hanging out with your fucking their their asari daughters and Like how depressing it is or is not A salarian dad Who is shopping with his daughter? Yes. Yes. Yes. The salarian dad is at the table and he's like, yeah, i'm 35
Starting point is 01:48:49 You know, so It's basically dead. Yeah, and she's just starting her life Mm-hmm. That was fucking crazy Um, and then the other krogan that was like trying to take the asari back to tachanka and she's like, yeah He's a nice guy and he says he doesn't care what our kids will look like. I don't think he gets the biology but Eh, you kind of krogans are the only dudes that can have a real relationship with those ladies They have similar lifespans
Starting point is 01:49:20 But but there's a time in every asari's life where she's got to start thinking about her matriarch phase And you got to get rid of those back tattoos and find a real reliable person to settle down with and i'm just like Ah, i hate you I hate you so much. You're the worst. You're the worst. You're you're fucker. Dear god. What a piece of shit Like that just like both of us just like Reeled in shockwave damage at like the yeah, that was fun But you know ty i gotta get serious with somebody who's you know, someone you can take home Can't take you, you know, you got to get rid of those tattoos. You got to get ready for the matriarch phase
Starting point is 01:50:03 And you can't be dragging a krogan around Yeah, I I really I really hope That mass effect for which they are making has no stakes Like it is about A fucking heist or a fucking mystery or
Starting point is 01:50:31 You know Some something because like all the best shit happens on the planets in which there are no stakes. Yep Yep, I mean half the fun of the of the like second time around citadel is just walking and listening to people Bitch about whatever, you know, like yeah, just world built absolutely And that's what I was I'm glad we're getting it because I was I was worried that the Go go go nature of of two is like tim is sending you on a mission. Go do it now Collectors are right over there. Go get him now like is like, ah fuck like But what about the you know zooming out to see the fucking milky way, you know, like what about that? Yeah
Starting point is 01:51:12 so It's good. It's good so far And uh, yeah shout outs to every single loyalty mission being Damn, so you got daddy issues, huh? Or damn, so you got issues being a daddy, huh? Like damn, so you got issues not letting other people be daddies, huh? Or damn, so you got to go cleanse your Children off the face of the fucking planet, huh? Yeah, okay. That's so that's a strange one actually
Starting point is 01:51:46 It is that reminds me I laughed about it in one and dear god this to just take the ball and keep it going That reminds me I have to talk to dad assana about, uh, a certain sequence of events and whether or not, uh Basically, how much to help you? Oh, well, you know I mean she's been Uh relaying things over to reggie and reggie has been Like okay aware of what to do and what not to do in terms of major critical Because there there is there is some stuff in mass spec too that is like
Starting point is 01:52:22 Intended to like trick you because you don't know how the game works I would actually I would actually say there's like an actively antagonistic sequence of events To people who play video games So I know that like things are meant to be like oh and replay you'll get it You'll do it better next time But I really do wish if I could add one thing to the series It would be and this is like it sucks because like they wanted to emphasize the illusion of conversation So choice is that could you hold that thought for just a second?
Starting point is 01:52:54 I have to help get a cat in a bag. All right be right back. That is going to slash me good. Excuse me Uh, yes, okay, so, um, I was saying That Sorry, I had to put the cat in the bag. Um, what was I saying? I did not get slashed, which is important Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's uh, I don't know what the fuck you were gonna say it was I cut you off right before it was uh Right about you're gonna get into the meat of it something about the illusion of conversation Yes, uh, if I could add one thing I know that people
Starting point is 01:53:42 Uh, I know that bio where made these games hoping that you would think Every choice you made would affect someone like it would in real life But I would make yellow text prompts that were like Uh, this is a decision versus this is getting information out of the out of the conversation Right because the the the rule is generally the left side, but it's not 100% not 100% right furthermore left side also Feels like you're they're you're getting a reaction out of them because sometimes left up is um
Starting point is 01:54:17 approve of what this What they just said, but it's still going to go back to a neutral phase after and the other one is disapprove But it'll still go back to a neutral phase, you know And uh, I kind of just I'm like, yeah I would rather just kind of know like no, this is a choice They will remember that is another way of doing it with the telltale games, you know um but
Starting point is 01:54:42 Because you're mixing in information gathering choices with committed choices Uh You're hoping to create a sense of like this is a real conversation, but it's not it's a game. We know it's a game So just just straight up underline it right off the bat So i'm going to send you a screenshot a random screenshot. I found a witcher three while you were talking Um, witcher three does literally exactly what you just said. Ooh The progress the progress line of dialogue is highlighted yellow fucking amazing
Starting point is 01:55:15 Perfect. That's exactly it. And if I see two yellow options, I know that these are two ways to go forward usually exclusive Yeah, that's that's that's all I would want And that would lead to a lot less of like the the weird shit you're seeing now where I'm You know, like I'm like, uh, did I because because there's times where I stopped talking to somebody um Where I'm like, okay, wait all three dialogue options on the left side rotated After selecting them and like I grabbed two of them Um, and then I didn't do that third one and then there was other times where earlier on I was like, oh
Starting point is 01:55:49 Well, I didn't want to say that it felt like that was the opposite of my fact that some Dialogues rotate Depending at random. It's like the shittiest part of that game's interface furthermore guns rotate And it's not and people were like, oh, yeah, that's just the mods and it's like no, it's not it's not the mods the guns rotate when you pick them up and uh, If you played a soldier, apparently that would continue to be the case Uh with every time you picked up a new thing. So I would constantly go to select the shot of the power weapon The heavy weapon on the right side and then it would be like, oh, that's in the wrong place. What the fuck just happened
Starting point is 01:56:27 And it's like I get it. I'm I'm always gonna initially I'm always gonna throw myself under the bus first But then if it's the game doing it then like fuck off. That's the game being silly, you know So when you get into the witcher series After this I think I mean To be perfectly honest like um I know that it's one of those things where I would skip one and just like get a summary on it
Starting point is 01:56:53 Uh, but you would skip one. Yeah, but uh, you would also skip two. I that's where I go But two's actually Good though, right like all right. Okay. That's the problem. I wouldn't feel like it actually rolled all the way back To me talking about me beating witcher one this week. I have something controversial to say Witcher 2 came out and had action combat so that everybody was like, oh, wow. Thank god After going through witcher one again I genuinely think two is the worst game in that series This is so weird because you you and others all praised two for years
Starting point is 01:57:39 in the past Here's the thing the things that we praise about two have nothing to do with the way it plays It has to do with the fact that 60 of the game is different depending on a single choice that you make Okay, the main thing Witcher one's combat is fucking jank as hell But it's it's like easy to do And inoffensive it's just click on a rhythm basis Two's gameplay is action combat, but it's terrible
Starting point is 01:58:08 Worse than one Yes, huh because it's it's hard also. It's it's hard but also bad And then three is good Three is just good game Weird that's so weird. I've for years. I've heard about how too good it is When we talk about the CD Projekt We have to remember that CD project red only made one Unqualified great game
Starting point is 01:58:41 And that's what you're doing. Well, okay. Here's the question though. If the combat is bad. Is it also 60 percent of what you're doing 40 percent of what you're doing It's about half Okay So yeah, I would I would say A fucking fucking start at three and look at a youtube I Even as somebody who just went through one and is going to go through two
Starting point is 01:59:19 So this is not jojo All right. No, all right. No, it is not. Um It is it is definitely something of curiosity though because it keeps coming up So, you know, I do I do have it's uh, it's probably uh anything It's it's sitting next to new vegas in terms of open world rpg that'll probably stay good forever um And and skipping skipping parts is is is okay The game assumes you skipped the part
Starting point is 01:59:57 Like that if you if you're coming in with a new import somebody comes in and is like, hey, dude What happened with this and you go, I don't remember if they're like, okay All right marking that down. I'm marking down that you don't remember what happened to these characters that you don't know Because you didn't play the game Well, I mean I have done it before. Um So, uh, yeah, I sure that'd be fine. I like I did it with um with neer for example Uh, you know, yes, that's a man What a great example
Starting point is 02:00:35 What an exact perfect comparison Because dragon guard games are not worth playing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They're just not. Mm-hmm. And neer Is there The good shit is so so good But you got to get to it You got to get to Yeah
Starting point is 02:01:05 so, um And I had to be real. I think the majority of people that played automata are Are all skipped as well, right? I think every way I think I would say that by the way the so the the carryover from old neer and The dragon guard games into automata is approximately the same as Witcher 1 and 2 into witcher 3. Oh wow, so huh Wait, wait, so dracon guard dracon guard into automata or neer into automata. No dragon guard and
Starting point is 02:01:41 Okay, okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. That's yeah, that's that's significant enough then. Yeah, okay because um, what they do is like with character a lot of character quests They uh, they they place you in different geographic locations So that you can go hey, whatever happened to that guy and then the they checks your old decision It goes they died or I don't know We'll never see them again regardless Okay um
Starting point is 02:02:15 Yeah, like I'm seeing like a oh just skip to dmc 5 but it's like well devil may cries about enjoying the coolness and fun of Doing combos and fighting fun bosses. So if you skip the good games there You're gonna be just missing out on some really fun unique encounters boss fights and combo things you're gonna do With weapons that you're not necessarily gonna get in the sequel that you jump to you know Yeah, like you're the the gameplay is the point not the what what the story was and and who you talked to to um Okay. Well anyways, uh Check out woolly versus we got a mass effect coming. We got silent hill just about to wrap up on that one
Starting point is 02:03:00 um Ran a little bit long, but I think we're pretty much right at the end with with uh that And uh this week we're gonna do um, yeah, we're gonna do a a mass effect two stream We're gonna do silent hill and then I am leaving because uh, we are going out to combo con Which is uh convention over in michigan uh, so
Starting point is 02:03:26 shout-outs to hunter uh hd max we're gonna go over uh and Basically participate in what is a half? tournament half convention Fun time if you're out in the area Come say what's up? It's gonna be me reggie's coming as well
Starting point is 02:03:45 I patch wolf's gonna be there and uh kenny unruly is gonna be there and we're basically going to Just you know play some fighting games and Uh, just hang out. I'm shocked I'm shocked. You're gonna go to combo con and play fighting games. That's That's what I hope to do Hey, let me ask you does this move the podcast next week. Yes, so I'm gonna be flying back on monday Which means podcasts will need to be on a tuesday exactly Um, so that's going down if you're in the area. I think it's uh
Starting point is 02:04:20 South michigan, so not detroit area, but like lensing Um, sort of I believe. Yeah. Anyways, um come hang out should be cool and uh We're gonna be doing the dreaded encounter two so me versus kenny In a couple of fighting games Um to to to follow up on the last one as well. You got this on lock obviously, right? I'm pretty sure but we'll we'll see how it go. Okay. Um, and then of course there's I believe a Fago tier list
Starting point is 02:04:56 Event which I will be trying different flavors of fago and ranking them seeing as fago is sponsoring the event Oh, yeah So you're going to an insane clown posse meetup. I don't know that this is gonna be a meetup with the family But I do believe there is an official fago sponsorship on On the bus drink of the dark carnival Um So yes I'll I'll take a sip and I'll let out a whoop whoop and I'll bring my hatchet. That's good. That's good
Starting point is 02:05:32 All right So, yeah, that's kind of that's uh this weekend. Um, the Uh, September the 23rd 24th and 25th Uh You can go to at combo con on twitter to get more info And not to mention sign up for the attorneys if you want to come play I'm also going to be doing some casuals and shits too. So if you want to feel some hammer loops Come see what's up
Starting point is 02:06:00 Um, and of course that means yeah no stream till we're back So, uh It'll be oh, it's in mount pleasant. Thank you. It's in mount pleasant michigan Um, that sounds like a nice place. Mm-hmm. They're gonna be streaming some of the events too over on a matchstick melee On on twitch. So uh, yeah, that's the deal Um, and then we'll see you guys the week after All right quick word for our sponsors This week the podcast is sponsored by
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Starting point is 02:11:57 Shopify.com slash super beast Thank you. Shopify Thanks, Shopify All right, uh, so in the news there was a whole lot of Announcement events for the industry you had tgs you had Nintendo direct you had state of play All of that. So we're just gonna Round up. All right. Let's just roll it down. Do you motherfuckers like to farm?
Starting point is 02:12:31 Nintendo For some reason and do you want to farm with anime waifus? Yeah, they're very important. It's not just farming. It's farming with anime waifus. Also. Do you want a logo that is kind of like a a serif font all in white Even even spacing and kerning To to drop over your title. I don't know. Nintendo direct was strange. It was quite odd. Um
Starting point is 02:13:04 But I here's the thing. I do like some farming I enjoyed playing some harvest moon back in the day and I didn't realize there was a legal battle over that name There is that sucks or if I did I forgot about it. So Um, it's no longer harvest moon now. Yeah, they have to just call it the japanese name which was uh What was it again? Story of seasons story of seasons. Yeah um So they announced one of those Uh, and then they also announced harvestella
Starting point is 02:13:40 It worked another farming game um and then Uh, uh God, what was the other one? I don't know, but it all it all just like reeked of like, hey, uh A lot of the various day life a lot of stardew valley during the pandemic
Starting point is 02:14:01 You kids like stardew valley I mean factorial is not exactly farming, but it's tech. It's it's farming in a way It's tech farming I believe that's the first console port of that game. Which is kind of surprising It hasn't been on anything else. Yeah No Um, does it not need a mouse? No
Starting point is 02:14:25 Does a mouse not make it way easier because yes Um, darkest dungeon doesn't need a mouse, but fuck you it does That game is way more clunky. Meanwhile darkest dungeon two is like use a controller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah wildly so Uh-huh totally Um, but the port of darkest dungeon one to the switch. I I Didn't it felt weird. It was just like it's two mouse dependent Um Cycling through like the 30 or 40 selectable things on the screen at a given time. It's it's infuriating. I was driven away from it
Starting point is 02:15:02 Um So legend of zelda tears of the kingdom totk Not for you england Ah, yes delayed of course You know what's cool? I you take the breath of the wild thing, which was pretty good And you add verticality to it
Starting point is 02:15:23 Bam done Did it so floating sky stuff skyward sword floating Stuff good flying this is totally gonna tie into skyward sword and we're gonna go on a loop The fucking logo is a loop You think so don't you think that that would be that would come I I think I don't know if they'd commit so hard to something that would like um Lock the timeline down though that if anything you'd imagine they would like yeah
Starting point is 02:15:53 But if you met if you make it a loop that means all games in the future get to fuck off and not give a shit about the timeline No, I I imagine they're gonna reference it but not actually hard lock it Because it's better and more profitable that way You want to imply where the loop is going, but you never want to actually sketch it out But yeah, um, so you're gonna be doing some some some a whole a whole lot of uh Skydiving mechanics are back in video games now Which is so funny considering like to me skydiving in video games was mdk That's it right then
Starting point is 02:16:41 Just cause years later Right then saint's row one mission. Yeah One mission from saint's row. Yeah And now it's everything now. It's all battle royales Yeah Yeah Um pickman four That's that's don't believe you
Starting point is 02:17:08 Wait, what? No, no Wait, what do you mean? No, like you just like no, you're not that announcement is not No, it's not real. No to pickman four Yeah, that's right I mean I understand the like Oh, look at look at shenmu online that game's not real like I I get that when that happens. Yeah. Yeah But they literally came out and they said pickman four
Starting point is 02:17:42 And then they showed it to me. I don't know man. They said like four and a half years ago. The game was like almost done Um I hear pickman is super duper fun. I've never played any of them. I also hear that but um Uh, it is it is one of those games that I look at and go wow, what a great game You would have to hold a gun on me to play it Oh, yeah I could I could I could get into pickman. I never did but I could
Starting point is 02:18:14 It was just it just came down to like a matter of like never renting it back on the game cube, you know Uh, when I was playing other stuff, I just happened to never really go and grab that one Wait, that was right as rentals were dying out though here Game cube was just as we weren't renting games anymore Videotrons and and and microplays were shutting down scamming you and going away. They merged Oh good old So like the game cube era is right when I started having less access to that shit Also, I believe that's right around the same time
Starting point is 02:18:52 That uh, I I found out about a swap disk Yes, I remember this. Yes, and and a bus pass a swap disk and a bus pass Uh Were two items that uh, they were pretty cool They're pretty cool things to to have And uh that meant no time for pickman. So I never really got into pickman Yeah Those were useful to play imported games
Starting point is 02:19:23 I'll always remember though my friend Justin who was super good at like He popped in the ps1 games and then let the loading screen come up and right in between the And the doodoo He would grab the spinning disc out and put in a different disc and load it up Nice and did a manual swap and that was like it was fucking sick though. He just knew how to do it Um, anyway, so yeah pickman is a thing
Starting point is 02:19:58 Uh fire emblem engage New fire emblem Sure. Yes. I believe no. I'm serious like I think that the person who drew that character actually has designed some some popular The vtuber but but fire emblem was already kind of leaning that way. Anyway, you know Like the the over the over time it feels as if like they've been getting closer to vtuber ish Designs and three houses certainly like gave you a plethora to choose from so why not just go all the way in with the The two hair stated the the two hair color mode
Starting point is 02:20:34 And everything else Um, yeah, sure Uh I feel as if the uh, what did we see as well? We saw Uh, just dance octopath traveler to Gray your party members will acknowledge each other's existence Uh, fey farm farm your fey far farm your fey four player five fey farming Kirby
Starting point is 02:21:09 That's cool. That was a re-release, right? Yep. Uh dreamland our return to dreamland was um a very good game that not a lot of people uh got to because it was just on the Wii and It never got ported out. So if you didn't if you didn't play it on the original we then you didn't get a chance at it Yeah, uh, I had a real who gives a fuck about any of that shit even the stuff that I care about Um, they announced they're gonna do a fucking remake of front mission three Yes, that was the pop just about I just about broke my fucking monitor and microphone That was that was the pop that was super cool because they dropped that they were gonna do one and you're like cool
Starting point is 02:21:48 One and then they're like also we're doing one and two and you're like, oh you sons of bitches. I'll go Okay, okay, great. And then yes, uh Also, we're just doing it. We're doing it. We're doing it all if so if three has voice acting I will be astonished There is so much dialogue in that so this is this like what I believe we're looking at because three was the weird one That had that like one got re-released multiple times and so did two Uh, we're probably gonna see four Come to the switch and five get localized
Starting point is 02:22:27 switch And the thing with five was it was such a bummer because three was the three four five Sorry, three and four were the only ones that came out in english Uh, when people did translate five Um, I started to play it and i'm like I don't know what the fuck is going on because this game assumes you beat front mission one and two and takes place simultaneous to them This is some of that uc side movie shit
Starting point is 02:23:01 Yes war in the pocket Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going on like here's what was really going on right right scenes in front mission one and two And i'm like i'm playing it. I'm like I played three I don't know what the fuck is happening. I don't know what the fuck is happening um I mean, I assume that it's gonna be fucking awesome regardless I don't know if there's an internet in that one or was that I don't I think I think that might be a three only feature Okay, um, well, this is what I mean, I'll say is like if you want to
Starting point is 02:23:35 Revitalize a franchise and get a new group of people excited about it so that you can make new games This is how you fucking do it, man You just take the good shit and you go here. It is you can play it now. We made it better And then you know when you've established like these quality ass games that are gonna now have people play them and go Oh my god, these are amazing Uh, can we get more and it's like yes now we can bring front mission back, you know, um I mean, I know that there's that spin-off game. Um, that's like how about that? That's the uh, yeah, that's not quite exactly
Starting point is 02:24:15 the the the mainline thing but um, dude, i'm looking at the front mission one remake Footage again, and it looks way better than like front mission four like it like Oh, man, come on. Yeah, this is a good series No, this is like legitimately one of the greatest of this genre and like no one's played any of them. Yeah, no Um, this is this is a fucking I was it's the it's the fastest i've been sold on something in with such limited exposure Uh back from that mecha week thing for uh from a you know that without one hour look at it
Starting point is 02:24:48 I was just like this is I can't believe how fucking quality this is right away in in 60 minutes um, so Yeah, um Prepare to hear a whole lot about front mission Um That that's that that's cool that there's three of them coming back now and that third one especially is uh What we were waiting to hear Hey to people who know about front mission two, i'm curious does front mission two also have two campaigns
Starting point is 02:25:20 I know one in three do but four does not And five does not I don't know Yeah, one has the uh has two campaigns Uh, that's the osu and usn campaigns. Yes Uh, okay. Well In any case, you know, you know, it's really strange actually Like so the octopath thing is happening
Starting point is 02:25:47 So octopath two is actually coming out on pc the pseudo simultaneous to the switch I think it's I think it is simultaneous Uh, but it became very clear that like oh the guys who do octopath and live alive those games come to pc later Right, uh, all that has to happen is front mission the first comes out on pc And then it's like just wait for the pc version of three I mean, oh, yeah triangle strategy is coming to the personal computer as well Like let good games get to places where people can fucking play them Um, yeah, yeah, I mean unless it's a thing. We're like nintendo's like no, we're making we're paying for this game
Starting point is 02:26:31 In which case it's like, all right. Well reminds me of a silk song just got um announced for the playstation And like every single goddamn response to that announcement is when Um Front mission two features alternating scenarios between the game's three main characters eventually Climaxing together Um
Starting point is 02:27:06 So they also announced, uh, ibb The art gallery 2d exploration wandering thing um Then they showed off some tunic they showed off crisis core I think I said something that made that hurt people When I said it but when tunic got showed off, I'm like, hey guys the best zelda game ever made is coming to the switch Right, right and people just like just were physically stabbed
Starting point is 02:27:43 by that statement It would be really fun if zelda like could have fun in a way where there was like a hidden You know booklet in-game kind of kind of mechanic thing that would be that would be pretty fun. Yeah, um, but Um radiant silver gun Good shit destroying collectors value One game at a time I mean collecting values should be based on I am a fan that loves this thing And I want a physical copy of it from the past. It should not be based on fuck you. You cannot play this
Starting point is 02:28:21 Um, I proudly have Different copies of third strike on all different platforms because I fucking love that game not because fuck you you can't play it This is the only way, you know Uh, so yay, that's the game that was of course was made Um by the people behind ikoruga. So uh g rev treasure, you know, if you are a fan of Ikoruga Pick up radiant silver gun as well. It's it's good shit Um
Starting point is 02:28:54 Instead of uh six weapon types instead of through uh black and white switching you have six weapon types right off the bat lots of fun Bayo three we got to see has lots of cool shit in it got to see some extended gameplay got to see, uh, how uh Shiro works So all that stuff about like, um, oh like, you know, like they're like, ah, look it's like kind of likes maybe scale bound stuff And it's like, oh no she viola actually Plus here's your parry button
Starting point is 02:29:27 Um, yeah, so which time off of a Parry which is revengeance really Yeah So it's it's interesting when you see how like, you know, the difference between These character action games these like your devil may cry your bayonetta and your revenge and style game um, a lot of it comes down to what defense is like and Uh, bao is dodge button Revengeance is parry button
Starting point is 02:29:55 Devil may cry is Don't be there Yeah jump roll or really just don't be there, you know, um kill it so it can't hurt you And here's really with it Mm-hmm. And here it looks like yeah viola's gonna gonna Uh, bring in like some of the the outside mechanics. So that looks cool One of the things that I really love about that bao stuff and I don't know if you saw the extended gameplay feature, but Uh, bao one had cool stuff
Starting point is 02:30:25 Oh, she does the punches and the big fist comes out and then oh you turn into a big Uh monster with your hair in a cutscene and then in the second game They're like, well, we want you to have more control and feel like you're doing more of that stuff for you So here's a power up state in which you become that monster for your regular attacks And also you your action sequences in which your big monster is fighting in the background with you as a pair and that's cool and now we get to bao three in which it's well, you can embody the monster as yourself and have the big punches But also as gameplay you can just straight summon it and directly control it as a completely separate entity from yourself
Starting point is 02:31:09 Like bao one was doing in the cutscenes now the thing is when we see her actually summoning the demon She's walking around next to it like v from dmc five But you're not fighting You're walking around but you're not seeing her have to deal with shit That is like attacking uh, and yeah at the same time go in to say it's like be careful. She can still attack you So Don't get fucking killed when you're doing your big fancy thing. It's almost like astral chain would have Helped out a lot to
Starting point is 02:31:44 Have this to control character system Going a boot right um Yes, so that's that's pretty that's pretty interesting um I hope Jean is comparably fun Compared to what we see with viola and bao
Starting point is 02:32:07 It's probably just be a palace up again Yeah Um, yes, and of course there's there's royal garden and devil may cry if you're Dante, but not everybody has royal garden, right? So that doesn't right. Yeah Uh Then we saw some of that rabbits stuff. We saw some symphonia uh harvestella Yeah
Starting point is 02:32:33 Uh, red you got red you got a real hype for theater rhythm Yeah, dude that game uh has Those games are great and the amount of music they were showing off for it is crazy Like it's having near music near music. I saw fucking it's having All sorts of shit shout outs to the fist of the north star boxing game where they reference the fist of the north star arcade You know first person thing. That's fun. Very strange. Very weird. Also Um for the love of god Yay, they're porting seafood a switch. Oh god. Its frame rate is terrible. It looks
Starting point is 02:33:11 embarrassingly choppy It it looks like a no kia phone port. It looks really bad And this is a game where that matters a lot That is a real shitty deal because it's such a good game It it I don't want people to experience that in in such a bad way You know when uh when it came up. I went wow seafood on the swear. Oh wow never mind Like just Oh
Starting point is 02:33:39 Yeah No, thank you So that's rough anyway That's the that's the thing is like You know, I don't want to live like we as much as I you know We we talk about things like oh man bring 13 sentinels to pc And then you see it and then it's like oh god. It's running horribly
Starting point is 02:34:00 suboptimized ported by a bad company whatever the deal is and you're just like fuck this is Worse than just telling people go play the better version to go play the thing on the console at that point Yeah, you know because now they now more people are going to be like I can't this is the only way to experience it And it's going to be shit And then I'll say don't Don't experience it Anyway after nintendo state of play came along and they opened up a lot of cool shit. Actually. I was genuinely surprised Yeah, so the internet died right in the middle of for us. So unfortunately didn't get to see the rest uh live
Starting point is 02:34:34 But we saw tech in eight and that game's pretty man. They're building it from the ground up new engine. That's cool um I'm You know happy Uh, it's it's brave of harada to show off a game on us on a band stage I hope I hope that uh Of course that we get some some confirmation that tech in is no longer three um
Starting point is 02:35:04 That would be very good. Tech in is eight. Tech in is eight. Tech in is eight. Yes Um, that's that's that's what matters, but uh, it's it's it's a new a new engine a new new thing Looks like there's going to be the return of um Like like okay, so you saw like a rage drive in that or a rage art rather um Looks like there's something that might be bound like in the in the the if you're just looking at the combat as like for hints as well as um Uh, what should we call it? Uh, uh the the the tumble state um
Starting point is 02:35:39 so Combat wise probably gonna be uh Fucking tech in good ass tech in It's probably gonna play like fucking tech in uh tailspin. Thank you tailspin um The uh story is of course going to continue from where the last left off. So it's going into the jinn kizuya uh conclusion and
Starting point is 02:36:05 Um, how heihachi comes back to how he actually comes back to life. Yes So if this is going to be the end of the mishima arc, then I then like sure that'll be the the wrap up You know, maybe maybe it won't I don't know but um, I will say that like Uh, okay. I know it makes less sense to say um time skip Enter in in tech end because of the fact that the last one ended on a direct into kizuya versus jinn sort of note. So, uh
Starting point is 02:36:39 That I which is what I said when I first saw the trailer. So I'm like, okay, that that statement makes less sense But ultimately I guess the main thing I'm getting at is just character designs Right, even if it's not a like the word time forget the word time skip Even though I bring that up when talks talks about in terms of fighting games I like when character designs update change slightly things a little bit, you know, even the clothing they're wearing You know, I kind of like to see that and tech end has done some cool shit with characters changing clothes over time. Um I in fact think Uh, whoa you
Starting point is 02:37:15 Oh, yeah, your your eyes were cross eyed for a second there. Sorry. It's like you never noticed that No, well, can you do it on purpose? Oh my god, what? Absolutely. I can do it Jesus Christ, I've never seen I've what the fuck Oh, that's scary Yeah, no, I've had that since I was a baby. Okay. Wow. That was kind of shocked. You never noticed That is like a dead stare like Wow, okay, I know damn Okay, um
Starting point is 02:37:49 I'm a little sleepy. So it's coming out a little more often that I could focus and and and straight ahead if that makes you feel More comfortable. Does that uh, does before you get tired it happens by itself Yeah, so well, uh, so I I have a lazy eye that I can luckily completely control a hundred percent Uh, and my natural state is in fact to not have a lazy eye But if I allow my eye to completely relax it drifts off a little bit My mother asked my pediatrician Hey, uh, the kid's got like a lazy eye. Should we like give him an eye patch or something? And the pediatrician said, oh, don't worry about a fix itself. That was wrong
Starting point is 02:38:28 Okay, did not fix itself. But luckily it's very minor So Okay, uh, it's not actually a problem. I'm not googly eyeing all the time. No, I can't I remember being in elementary school and being like, hey guys Well, how how long can you double your vision for and everyone's like what? I can't double my vision at all. Am I what what are you talking about? I can give myself two hands just like this Oh, Jesus. Okay Okay, well, you're not having a stroke live on stream. So good
Starting point is 02:38:58 Um, because yeah, you know or that I know I appreciate the concern Um, so yeah, the the character designs are updating over uh, uh across titles has been something tech has been pretty cool at Alongside kof and I was kind of hoping for something in that regard but Um, what we kind of have is like, well, that's kazoo. Yeah, that's jinn and this is a very pretty version of them Um, jinn's wearing his orange pants again And if anything the fact that he can control
Starting point is 02:39:30 The devil jinn the devil jinn You know thing and use it with the wing and such and not have the full-on thing come take over is like his growth but um Yeah, I I uh Um, I I think that if uh, you kind of show off the two new characters It'd be cool to have a little just a little something a little something design-wise, you know Anyway, I agree Um, what the fuck came right after that they went into
Starting point is 02:40:03 um Some star wars shit Oh, man, and whatever Whatever, um Yakuza ishin coming back. No Like a dragon ishin There you go. Excuse me Excuse, so I really got to say finally. Thank god
Starting point is 02:40:23 We're not calling it the yakuza series anymore because that name was always like blunt and terrible Like a dragon is way cooler Also, like a dragon is not because the thing is like a dragon could have been the New character new role new game style Name moniker, but now they're confirming. No, no, we're replacing the word yakuza from here on out. Yeah, it's gone um Great, so Like a dragon ishin coming to you courtesy of ghosts of sushi ma
Starting point is 02:40:57 I don't know if you saw that uh the gun play and Mechanic stuff. So ishin ishin came out many years ago and people have been going Please give us kenzan give us ishin and they're like, I don't know guys A modern game like this is one thing But we really don't think the western audience would like a game that takes place in old timey japan So then they looked at ghosts of sushi ma and went. Oh, I guess people do like games that take place in old timey japan Well, okay, here's the game in old timey japan
Starting point is 02:41:31 Yeah, so the aesthetic difference between nintendo direct or it's like you guys like anime farming And sony is like yo fucking samurais y'all love that samurai shit, right? here, yeah, um And then you know as as uh cool as that was You follow it up with what have team ninja been up to rise of the ronin looks fucking awesome Rise of the ronin is the game that I wished neo was Okay Because I don't want gearing up. I want like I want exploring
Starting point is 02:42:09 But team ninja Okay, I'll also I really have to say that assassin screed hitting the code red button Three four years from now, but he's really really fucking funny. Yeah, that they're gonna Games in that genre. Um that being said neo Fucking killed it though. Like neo was really good like um yeah, I I I I uh
Starting point is 02:42:42 I don't I was hearing something about how Team ninja has two teams. There's the neo team and then there's the like strangers of paradise team Or something to that effect. I don't know if this is just bullshit or not. Probably um Oh, you know, yeah, and that that uh before strangers of paradise, uh, they were working on um um What was right before that? Another one
Starting point is 02:43:09 I don't remember. Anyway, whatever. Um, uh, yeah, so so okay, but okay, so Fucking uh, I'm gonna go a little off-screen here. So we got like a dragon ishin is going to be coming out relatively soon in addition So will Like a dragon eight Oh, well, that's a different event. That's the rg summit Yeah, fine fine. So yes rg g summit 2022 happened rg g eight like a dragon eight with cure u featuring a bad die job on his hair
Starting point is 02:43:46 Will be showing up as a party member in yakuza eight Now why is his die job so bad? Well tune in to like a dragon guide in the man who erased his name To find out what happened to his hair Going hey everyone, we acknowledge that yakuza six was a bad send-off for that character. Oh, yeah, we're just we're yeah It's not good So we're just gonna fucking say Yoinks and just bring them right on back for one or two
Starting point is 02:44:19 Or three or four or five more jobs Yeah Remember that time When carlito got off the train And he got pulled back in For another five movies Yeah Um
Starting point is 02:44:40 65 It's it's ridiculous Um judgment and lost judgment have defeated the talent agency dinosaurs and dropped on steam like that day And Uh They also yeah, yeah, they confirmed the pc judgment releases exactly um So if you're a pc only player you have five yakuza games in the next two years to go through
Starting point is 02:45:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's not possible. It's pretty cool that there's enough like News for them to have their own summit event Yeah, so that's interesting. They've had those events in the past and literally all they have to do is just show up and have a New number and people go crazy Yes All right back to sony Then what did we have we had a couple other games they announced including
Starting point is 02:45:43 buh buh buh buh buh buh well uh, they showed off the The god of war controller And i'm like, okay, but it's not even the fancy new controller. It will exactly that's if it's not the pro Then I just want I just don't want it to break as easy man I hate the fact that I've already had I already have two broken ones that sucks So please make the controller better. I don't like this generation one shit We're going through where where you got to figure out how to make it actually, you know sturdy
Starting point is 02:46:14 Um, oh people are pointing out the CEO of johnny's Um, the talent agency Uh, literally fucking died and that's why the games are on years ago and that's why it's it's happening Jesus christ and just like that all the photoshopped gray block Faces are now becoming clear the magazine type the magazine covers can be seen once again It's crazy Uh, yeah, and then they showed off the god of war trailer at the end of course, which looks awesome. Um, very cool. Um Very very happy to see
Starting point is 02:46:52 Uh That's a case where unlike thin It's great that atreus's voice is getting deeper Yeah, that's good atreus going through puberty and kind of and hearing him grow in that role is awesome. Like that's exactly uh Appropriate for this ongoing thing Um, also I watched that trailer uh a couple times and i'm like, oh, are they literally showing Like the people at home how you're gonna beat thor in this trailer
Starting point is 02:47:26 Because I mean you were there forgot a war right so kratos has his axe that he recalls Do you remember what he does to recall it? Uh, nothing nothing he just wants it. He just wants it back It's just thor. Yeah, right. Yeah, thor has to snap his fingers to bring the hammer back Okay, I didn't read that moment that deeply Interesting when he when he when they do the clash and then he pulls the hammer back He snaps his fingers to pull it back Which is interesting because like
Starting point is 02:48:00 Kratos is doing what mcu thor does Right and thor in this case, I guess is adds an extra step to it. Yeah. Yeah, okay That could be a thing right And uh What do they show off? Yeah, so uh the vr2 They shut off demio and what that's all gonna be and then immediately The news came out that uh psvr1 titles are not gonna work on psvr2
Starting point is 02:48:34 Oh, cool way to just deflate any desire I ever had for this thing at all If you had any thought of like well I committed some money to buying a couple of these psvr games might as well experience them in a with a better version of the Of the product and they're like now it doesn't work and like it's like what the fuck that sucks, man Um, I understand that vr is very finicky and that development has to be very precise on each headset And you can't just easily port something over There's a lot of work that goes into like making it work on each thing The bc vr platforms that have different types of tracking do it just fine
Starting point is 02:49:14 But in in this case when you have a platform that like was half supported people already bought games for it and like You want to roll forward and incentivize people to pick it up that would have been a big one is yeah I've already got a library of great psvr games. I never really put enough time into Now I can't fuck that that sucks, man um Commit to this expensive thing again, and it'll whatever you play on it. It was just gonna be exclusive to that So yeah, uh fucking I don't know like maybe not
Starting point is 02:49:51 You know, I think in the end i'm probably gonna get I can probably see myself getting like one Like final really good vr system Um because I realize that I'm like This is going to serve a purpose utility wise that I'm just not going to use it that often Yeah, I'm I'm I'm so I'm disinterested in vr I mean it works for my my my um
Starting point is 02:50:19 My vtuber rig That's the that's the best uses i'm getting out of it But in a lot of cases the next time I'm The next time I'm interested in vr is going to be when they go no cables Well, that's what I was going to say like put the glasses on and Uh access a giant library Here you go like yeah, okay. That's when you'll get me but
Starting point is 02:50:42 Or if unless some fucking something amazing is is you know, there's always a possibility But this backwards compatibility news fucking sucks and for people that are like I have a curiosity and like if it's something channel related It's like oh, maybe I can check that out for a video or something if you're trying to casually convince people to like Invest in that that's that's crazy to do Um because those games are not like discounted. There's just some full-ass priced games so um Anyway, uh, then we got to see
Starting point is 02:51:13 uh, well Whatever some PlayStation stars loyalty program yada yada But it's just hilarious because I saw grace chan pop up and my brain unlocked a 15 year old meme or whatever the time frame It's been a oh a thousand year old meme of like grace chen time Are we talking about chen gonna update the blog gct? And then I realized i'm like oh my god like that's who's that for That's for nobody and nothing
Starting point is 02:51:45 Back in the day when japan would update the psn store It would always update like clockwork on the given day schedule And then when the us store got updated it was when grace chen had her coffee got to work Hit the blog and updated it felt like it Whenever she got around to it As she after she pulled into the office and thus the psn store in the us would get updated on grace chen time Yeah, I remember there's the meme. That's it Oh good old days
Starting point is 02:52:17 Um, so stellar blade looked like one of those shiny um Which one is that that was one with the ass project eave They well that one had that one had the ass But that will there's two of them had the ass, but that one had the ass Um And then it was one of the games that like it looked like one of those games that you would say is a gotcha trap fake mmo
Starting point is 02:52:45 Uh, uh twitter bait game. Yes. It looked like one of those um, but Um, it it looks pretty cool and it's a korean studio shift up Uh seems very heavy on the cinematic lighting Um and and high octane action But if the game if the combat's real then that's real um And then right before that was a sin duality
Starting point is 02:53:17 um The game that thing looks more interesting to me Yeah, got a robot the robot looks really cool And then there's the floating waifu around you who's got to be there because appeal character must exist Yes, yes, but I see the robot attacking the dinosaurs and i'm like, yeah Yeah, show me more about this robot though um And then it goes into like that kind of there's a camera view that I love when it goes into like um arbor core slash, uh,
Starting point is 02:53:44 like Like like right like it's like over the shoulder mecha shot You know like I look up close for the missile firing and shit. I'm like, oh that looks good. I like that. I like that a lot um It's always fun when you switch between that or like a hawk in first person missile salvo mode Uh, but yes with your little float waifu Um And then stellar blade also had another like appeal character in it and stuff and stuff
Starting point is 02:54:15 And I was like, oh, yeah, okay. This is you got to do it. You got it. You got to do it. You got to sell your game Never not do it Um, and then that was pretty much sony, uh, yeah Let me see Yeah, that's pretty much it song is Coming out one day supposedly um hogwarts whatever and
Starting point is 02:54:40 the Uh, that game looks like trash. What was the other thing? That game looks Pacific drive pacific drive. Oh, yeah, that looks cool. That was fun. That was fun. I like that My backyard is people and ghosts attack you well It was funny because my brain was waiting for the reveal of like a character a character and or a setting like into Like who you're meeting and it's like, oh, no, they're not driving to
Starting point is 02:55:09 People or things It's a driving game with crazy shit happening. Yeah, man And I realized that i'm like great thing that a lot of games don't do which is a gun was not in that trailer And i'm like, oh, yay. There was not a gun in that trailer Hmm I realized when a trailer starts with like someone getting into a car My brain treats that car as a transition, right? A car is a liminal object It's meant to carry you to another location where the real content begins
Starting point is 02:55:36 So i'm waiting and then is like, oh, no, this is the content, right? Okay, cool Interesting content is driving in the car. Yeah, that looked fun um and uh fire watch style Visual vibes Um So that was what they pretty much did so that was sony that was nintendo
Starting point is 02:56:02 That was the rgg summit and then yes, of course we did capcom had their event They took we talked about street fighter six's stuff and then they just kind of confirmed as well mega man battle collect network collection That's cool. Like it seems like Six games i think in the collection or so like a lot Um online confirmed as well Which is dope for you know replacing your uh
Starting point is 02:56:27 your link cable Uh versus battles back in the day And hey, do you want to play the shittiest versions of resident evil possible? Here you go on the switch with the cloud version Cloud yay. Yeah Hey, but rockman exe is on the title screen talking to you. That's cool um Committing to the cloud real hard. Yeah Uh
Starting point is 02:56:53 Fine let them learn the hard way. You know keep trying Keep trying to make it fucking take off keep wasting your money because those people remember While they're up to that The actual people that are trying to make games that are not full of bullshit Are on the other side just like yeah keep them distracted While we make a normal game over here You know If as long as you keep the vultures over at capcom on their vulture projects
Starting point is 02:57:25 You can distract them long enough to make a good game over here at the same time So I get it. So the resident evil eight expansion is going to come out on october 28th The same day the fucking bayonetta comes out Smart I think our everse also comes out that day Reverse is not out. No. Oh, I thought that was already a thing. Yeah, okay. Yeah Um Was
Starting point is 02:58:06 Hold on a second Yeah, I saw some people talking about like playstation nfts or whatever, but it's like was that what the playstation star's loyalty program was Thing was yeah, there are okay. You get digital collectibles But like are they actively like nfts or are they just trophies in your trophy collection? I don't know Okay, I don't All right. Well, anyway, um, and then yeah the I mean Other thing that uh, we we hinted at earlier. That was just uh, fucking amazing Is the story coming out where former
Starting point is 02:58:48 um Nintendo employees that were uh community managers did a Had a little video pop up that went a kind of viral because they were describing some of the difficulties they had trying to get initiatives uh greenlit with nintendo and with the pokemon company and
Starting point is 02:59:11 this one implied that uh They wanted to do a nuzlocke run like we did back in the day in order to uh To Yeah, exactly to to do some marketing for something, you know And not only did that nuzlocke run get shut down by the pokemon company. They were vehemently Like almost fired over it and the the the smack they got in response was uh an extreme one because they view
Starting point is 02:59:48 nuzlocke runs as the same thing as Hacking and modding the game practically But woolly The guy who runs serabi dot net spoke to someone at the pokemon company and they said that that never happened Yes, well joe merrick did say that nintendo or rather the pokemon company says officially that they have not cut people For running nuzlocke's and they don't care as long as you follow the confines of what's possible in the game But the difference is that that serabi dot net guy is Is relating a public facing message
Starting point is 03:00:26 Whereas these were employees working behind the scenes getting a closed door meeting smackdown for proposing something Like it's absurd and also he called them liars, which is not classy Like even if these two had been fired for trying to get a nuzlocke They would have actually been laid off because they weren't a good fit for the company um Like here's a story about something that happened behind the scenes in closed door meetings Yeah, but here's the Official response from the company that says no that didn't happen
Starting point is 03:01:04 Okay You know anyway, um So just in case anybody doesn't know um the reason why this is nuts is because nuzlocke run of pokemon So yeah, I did one back in the day, which was basically it's playing the game on a On a hard mode, but you're not modding out of rules exactly You're not modding the game in any way You're just choosing to do things yourself which include when a pokemon faints you consider that it's dead forever So you can't revive anything you must release it after the fight
Starting point is 03:01:38 And if you happen to faint then the run is over because you died essentially Um and then there's other little things like you have to catch And can only catch the first pokemon you run into in a given area when you walk into that new zone So you're putting an informal rule set on the game That is not about modigate in any way shape or form. It's a it's just you and your own mind, you know So this the idea that they're so out of touch and insane that they would get angry at their community managers for proposing something That has been a very fun community based thing, you know being in touch with the community Is what a community manager should do
Starting point is 03:02:21 Right, this is what you're paying them to do and the community run stop it The community run rule set that they decided that they wanted to push getting like getting yelled at over that Is so insane. So now we're getting the hilarity of memes because when you break it down It's like the moment you choose not to revive a pokemon that fates in your party and it's just people going That's like people for like like the the pokemon company gets so angry. How dare you not revive your pokemon? Devastated walter white falls to the ground like No Don't choose to to release them after that
Starting point is 03:03:04 Don't play the game the way you want to you're not allowed Fuckhouse rules a cool company. Hey, can we do something cool? No Don't you dare do something cool Yeah, I mean just Yeah, anyway the the the idea of of fucking Them being that out of touch is the most on point true and believable story I've I've ever heard it's so so On the nose for the type of decisions that they make and the type of people that don't understand
Starting point is 03:03:46 Who's playing these games? Why what they like or what they're in touch with? You know Now I heard that uh part of this might be runs are the same as stealing the game I like I can't wait for it like I Milton bradley when you have a buyback rule in monopoly just swat team bursting through the sky lights Guns blazing punch out grandma sees the board Parker brother swat team breaking into your house. How dare you how dare you?
Starting point is 03:04:28 um Uh, uh Fuck I was gonna say something else about it. But anyway. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that's what it was I saw that like some people were saying maybe the fact that actual modded Um nuzlocke runs that were like hacks in the game And randomizers did then lead to them thinking all of them Are bad and all of them are mods and how dare you propose such a thing And that's just one step removed from being almost quite as out of touch
Starting point is 03:05:01 Exactly because that still shows that you don't know the one thing That like it's your job. It's literally your job. You this is your product How the fuck do you not know the difference between a modded version of this game with randomizers versus something that people Just do on their own on an official cartridge for fun You know you and then getting mad at community organizers for like them knowing that difference in you not Is just ridiculous incompetence. So this is a hilariously stupid story And whatever the fucking pr line is gonna be is is is like, yeah, okay By that horseshit if you've never had any problems with nuzlocke and these people left under different circumstances
Starting point is 03:05:41 And we are disappointed to see that they are characterizing nintendo or the pokemon company in this way by the way our lawyer Said to say this next part. Uh, we in no way Fucking condemn, uh, what uh, don't don't hack the games. We'll kill you. Yep. We'll fucking kill you And remember the next time some real dumb decision goes off and you don't understand why These are the same brains making those decisions The same minds that that are doing this now are also going to confuse you later when other things you don't get happen Good shit Are those kids letting their pokemon stay fainted
Starting point is 03:06:33 Well arrest them that's how it starts and next thing you know, they're breaking into rock star and leaking footage Yeah, so uh, somebody, uh Somebody a rock star on their internal security division Did not do the best job protecting their network and uh A bad actor got into their internal network and just took a bunch of shit Tons of videos of the grand theft auto 6 that is clearly very early in development as well as much more interestingly a bunch
Starting point is 03:07:11 Of their internal code for the game which has already been sold to probably a criminal enterprise to Make cheats with when that game comes out. So As much as like it's like, oh shit, it's footage of the new game cool Hey, look at that the part where source code gets out is like, oh, that's That's real bad for a company. Yeah, that's that's actually damaging Uh also, uh, so not enough people are talking about this other one Diablo 4 also got leaked in a very similar way. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 03:07:50 Um, yeah, and the thing that's big about the diablo 4 news is that it is a microtransaction shithole Just like everyone expected There's just tons of oodles and oodles and oodles of just like would you like a horsey skin? Would you like would you like a fancy hat? So they learned nothing then Yeah, well they learned the diablo mortal made them a bunch of money Yeah, diablo 4 it's gonna come out and the review will be uh, literally just play your already existing copy of diablo 3 Or path of exile Man um
Starting point is 03:08:38 So what uh, I think um Yeah, like what what the the the one thing I did see was just like there was like a um A diner robbery scene or something to that effect. That was uh, oh, there was a lot of stuff and the game looks really early But people don't know what early games look like So the reaction was like, why is grad theft auto six look like such shit? Well, it's it's like bordering on gray box, man That's like placeholder text in the in the strings But of all the worst possible games to hit like a casual misunderstanding level of news. Oh, it's this one. Yeah You know so
Starting point is 03:09:18 Um Yeah, no that source code shit though. That's bad. That's rough. That's that's no good. That's bad. Um So we'll see what happened Uh, and then they put out a statement basically going. Hey, yeah You know The equivalent of what was it? We all saw some things we weren't supposed to see Yeah, I forgot who said that but um, this is good. I like that. Yeah, but uh You'll see more when it's time when it's ready
Starting point is 03:09:49 Hey, did you see the hot new overwatch news? About the locked characters Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to unlock your characters um via battle pass But went for all the new characters that are going to be in the game But woolly I thought This is my favorite part about overwatch by the way by far
Starting point is 03:10:12 Which is when overwatch came out they made these huge huge amounts of documentarian to style footage About how the game works and how they intend the game to be played and like literally every decision Since then has flown in the face of it I thought overwatch was all about Counterpicking your other your opposing teams team but wait Never mind. We're actually going to lock you into characters at the start of the match No, wait, never mind. We're going to lock you into characters at the start of the match
Starting point is 03:10:48 Most of which you can't play as counter picks because you haven't spent the money to unlock the battle pass early So here's where this gets weird though is It's free to play now so you can change the rules of What you give people based on the fact that they're committing to nothing to start it out um
Starting point is 03:11:11 But yeah, you can make the characters at the end of the past pay to win And it wasn't like that before So going into it you'd expect that it's going to be a you know counter play based as you mentioned But like is so Is league the one that gives you? um A rotation, but no everyone's free and it's all cosmetic purchases and doda's the one Okay, doda's the the free one. Okay
Starting point is 03:11:36 Because that's where I where I'm like, how do they handle the idea of balance and not everybody having access to the characters? Dota doesn't need to because everything is free League handles it by having a rotation Of free characters, right? So and then you spend your gold or your points or whatever to grab a character for free or buy one So is what overwatch switching to not similar to what league is doing as opposed to what it was before? No, it's it's you get some characters to start and then you fucking I don't think it has a rotation. I think it's just unlock the characters in the past
Starting point is 03:12:12 Which is also multi-versus, right? Uh No, because multi-versus has the rotation does hey people in the chat would know does overwatch to have a free rotation Or is it just here's your starter characters? Because um All previous characters unlocked by default. No, no rotation. No rotation rotation. There's the starter characters And then the good characters
Starting point is 03:12:43 Okay I also um Like to me the moment a game is free to play you're allowed to fuck around with that stuff It seems like so. Yeah, but then it then you have to compare it to its own competitors in its own genre That's what that's what I i'm uninformed on. This is like the worst one so far Also, my favorite thing is now that we all have the the diversity chart um, of course We can look at the new character kimiko
Starting point is 03:13:15 through the lens of the diversity quota and As somebody as somebody pointed out what's the score? Blizzard going through all the rigmarole to desperately make sure their characters are diverse Only to end up with three japanese characters who are all ninjas is pretty fucking funny Is that what is that what's going on? I just saw the jucker queen. I didn't see the others. She is a support ninja. Okay um And her fucking backstory thing reads like a tourist like a tourist trap guide. It's it's fucking hilarious Um, yeah, what the fuck?
Starting point is 03:14:00 I uh, yeah, I I don't know what the like What the the unlock shit is for like paladins or or what was that other one there? Um smite paladins So almost all of them is free rotation plus unlocks Like the vat adota is everyone's free everybody else is free rotation plus unlocks blizzard is starter cast and then More plus unlocks. All right. Okay Which is like Okay
Starting point is 03:14:39 Well, yeah, it's it's weird to go from a like Like regular purchase whatever game to the b2p To f2p for a sequel. It's a it's already kind of strange But I guess the thought there is we we can't compete with battle royale games that cost you nothing And that you know and say drop this this cash up front You know, we got a in the attention economy. It's got to be about like getting as many people to come in um, you know and be like low-level free
Starting point is 03:15:15 Players right that's that's I mean that's what we want fighting games to do certainly So that's that's I fully expect like I fully expect the tier list to See who like logarithmically go down that fucking pass Let's see how long it takes before they do decide to be like, okay. Actually. Here's a rotation or here's some demo weekend or some shit to go down because Um, did I read correctly that this game comes out in two days? Yes, it came so I was about to mention Did you know the game comes out in two days because I did not know that until somebody in the chat?
Starting point is 03:15:51 I thought I just saw it's coming out in two days Oh Literally didn't even know Man Like literally Man I had so much fun. I used to I used to really enjoy it. I had I had so much fun with the very first version of overwatch Yeah, yeah, no, it was uh, that was a good time. It was a brief solid ass time
Starting point is 03:16:24 Anyway, um Let's take some letters Oh, it's october 4th somebody lied to me somebody said it's in two weeks my mistake. Okay I still don't care All right, you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com. That's mail like the post office not the gender Uh Jeremy says dear castle super beast when pat mentioned that is why I've got him to watch mama mia
Starting point is 03:17:00 A wave of repressed memories unlocked right before me back when I was going through my elementary and middle school years Mom would play this goddamn movie on repeat over and over and over and over and over She was able to then convince my little sister to watch the film Who too would also watch it over and over and over and over and over? Oh my god This further encouraged my mom to play the movie again over and over and over for the years With the sole motivation to just listen to all the musical aspects They would both constantly sing the lyrics
Starting point is 03:17:30 To the music when doing all of their daily activities around the house And when they finally got bored of doing that She fast forwarded through the songs and eventually just bought the soundtrack and began playing that every time she cooked and cleaned the house In particular the two songs she loved the most were honey honey and of course mama mia I still remember chunks of those songs and now that pat has reminded me of the film The lyrics of those songs are on repeat in my head and i'm desperately trying to listen to anything other to drown them out Do you have any songs or films that you can remember by heart but hate the fact that you know them so well? Yeah, uh, my household had uh with my sister a little mermaid problem
Starting point is 03:18:11 And then a Aladdin problem with my brother and I in which Those films were just gonna be on literally Literally whenever any of us were alive. I've I've never been that kid I've never been the kid that just rewatched the same thing I always like there was different. I there's things that I liked but like I got into like like mighty mouse For example, but it would always be like oh, let's check out like a new I got a new cassette with more mighty mouse on it
Starting point is 03:18:46 and shit like that like Yeah I remember we had this discussion a while ago in which you I found out likes a couple years ago. You don't replay games ever Um, which is strange to me because I replay games that are very old or just like as a form of comfort Like the familiarity is very pleasant to me. Yeah, it's rare for me Um, I'll I'll dive in a little bit sometimes for something in particular So for example a game like disco like I'm diving in to try and get particular outcomes and see different things But like I feel as if I have one life to live
Starting point is 03:19:22 I have very precious little free time In in it to do things and when I am doing those things If I'm replaying something that I like that I know I like I could be playing something else That is really good that I don't know about of which this job has led me to discover How many things I don't know about so every single time there's a you know, woolly doesn't know about x or y thing It's a moment of like well I could be replaying a thing that I love or I could be expanding my horizons
Starting point is 03:19:51 You know and I much put more I put infinitely more emphasis and and weight on Expanding my horizons seeing a movie. I've never seen reading a thing. I've never read versus repeat experiences Yeah, absolutely. I completely understand that and for the most part I'm on board, but sometimes Sometimes you just want something you absolutely know quite well and are familiar with now granted Running this like I've I've listened to songs on repeat But not for multi-year periods like not like
Starting point is 03:20:30 um I'm sorry person who mailed in that sounds like a nightmare um Yeah, woolly how many times have you played watched guru in lag end the first time when it came out episode by episode And then the second time when I showed it to punch mom Yep No, you're not gonna beat him on this one guys. He's consistent
Starting point is 03:20:54 It's why the mass effect discussion is so strange Because everybody else is like well, you'll just replay it when you get the different outcomes and well, he's like nah, I'm not gonna do that You've already played mass effect one twice. That's weird Why don't you play mass effect one twice? Yeah No, that's it. That's it. You know um Yeah, granted you'll
Starting point is 03:21:20 Play the match of a fighting game eight thousand times. Well, that's that that's it. And what about fighting games? It's like well, I don't know. What do you consider a chess board or are a game of go, right? like It's it's it's practically more leisure activity of of Than it is media consumption. Yeah, and that and that's where the In between so like when I go back and play a different Resident evil game like am I fucking around with it? Am I trying something new? If I go and I play into the breach a different time
Starting point is 03:21:51 I'm doing a different run and that's and this is where roguelikes roguelikes get me to do the most replaying Out of any genre. Well, they're designed that way. That's that's their whole stick And also it's not a replay because this time my run has a new thing that I didn't have before You know, but generally speaking when it comes to like actually just re-experiencing something I'm definitely going to lean more towards like trying out something new Um, and that's why you need to get into fortnite because not only is every drop different Every season is a completely new battle royale. Damn That's that's crazy
Starting point is 03:22:32 I heard that game's good It's like a fighting game, but good what if I can't aim That's fine. There's children you beat them up. Okay Um You beat up the kids um last night, uh I killed three people in a row going from Uh, a a stone a stone cold stunner
Starting point is 03:23:01 uh top off the top of a building uh into Uh an irish whip into a hundred hand slap Into a second hundred hand slap into an activation and then a super so Can I do anything like that? Yeah, you can, um shoot them and then gentrify your position when they shoot back at you I think I want to give credit to friend of the show gene park for For being the first person I saw to use the phrase gentrifying
Starting point is 03:23:42 The locate like your spot once somebody shoots at you. That's great. That's great. Oh It's great. Um All right, we got one over here from uh Josh who says dear csb I have terrible internet And the options in my area are satellite tried it never going back my current service which struggles to maintain even sub 10 Mags down on good days
Starting point is 03:24:13 In addition to this unless I want to set my consoles up in the kitchen I can't hardwire my connection The problem is I love fighting games, but due to my circumstances I rarely attempt to play online because I know how frustrating fighting me would be And when your connection is as bad as mine, it's difficult to even learn from my losses What the hell do I do? There isn't really a local scene for my game of choice, which is Tekken and I can't really liquidate all my funds to move up Uh somewhere just so I can get my steve fox going
Starting point is 03:24:43 Um, should I just give up? Thanks for your input Yes You give up on fighting games Um, yeah, so you've got you've got one of those uh worst case scenarios where like There's very little you can do you're in a fucked place and unfortunately It's a genre that requires you to be
Starting point is 03:25:11 Proxy to either a local scene or have decent internet because it's a way Because it involves other people, right? You have it's a genre that requires other people. It doesn't work on its own so The if you can if you can't get to other people through the internet and you can't get to them in person Um, I it's it's difficult. I don't know. Um I mean The only other possibility I can think of would be and this is like just it's it's a hail mary But like if you hit up
Starting point is 03:25:46 A discord group online You know and or if you try and you if you could find somebody that was actually in your area That you could play with locally That might be fun, you know If you had someone that was like a nearby hop on craigslist and be like Need need person to play fighting games. That's that's don't rob my house that like that is a that's going Like way further than you know a game should ask you to go to find ways to play with people
Starting point is 03:26:18 And that's a huge bummer that fucking sucks. Yeah, these are the cases where I don't I don't have a there's no perfect solution But like for me personally if I'm someone that like loves them them as much as I do I would I would try to find people through discord Tekken discord for uh In my who was in my area and try to see if I could play with them Somebody in chat actually has a really good idea. What you need to do is hop on tinder and bumble Right put your preferences to all and just have it in your profile. Do you want to play melty blood with me?
Starting point is 03:26:55 So um and in complete honesty, uh Tekken in montreal like There was a point in time when I was getting when I wanted to like get good at Tekken where like there were no I there were no like public known locals going on um the way I found out about them was like peripherally through like street fighter people and then like at Um tournaments that we'd have like majors there'd be like a group of Tekken players That would come and bring a copy and play and I'd be like oh shit. Yo, where are you guys at?
Starting point is 03:27:28 What do you guys do and then I kind of found out that like oh they met at this one guy's house You know and they had a really like chill vibe But you had to kind of like meet that friend group at an event and be like oh you guys are here I didn't know you existed and then go do that now That is not that it was it in the end. It was really cool and chill to go play weeklies at at that uh that dude's house, but like It also is just asking a lot of the average person to find that type of situation. You know, so um
Starting point is 03:28:00 Yeah, that's that's that's all I can really say though It was like if you can if anyone in your area is down for you know playing some some local sets You can try that but otherwise It's gonna be a a shitty situation until you move You know and and I don't have an easier answer than that Um alternatively you can be that guy that says hey if anyone else is looking for games I live in this area, you know, you can we can come you can come play but uh
Starting point is 03:28:29 for the record if somebody is talking about any kind of life situation and They have to ask the question should I give up on fighting games? I'm just gonna let you know that my answer to that is going to be yes. Yes For the foreseeable future going forward. Yes, you need everyone to join you That's correct That's it. You know understandable that will always be the case Uh in the meantime, I'm gonna tell you that you know, you might you might have to work a little to get a solution going It's not impossible, but
Starting point is 03:29:02 Depends on you know, what you're willing to do. So Do you think about what woolly just said very carefully and then realize that if you gave up right now You would already have given up I say the fact that you're asking The the fact that you're asking shows that you're there's something inside that No, anyway, no, I'm I'm not you might you might have to but do a little check See if anyone else is around you that's in a similar bind. That's it. It's it's that's the best I can and More importantly if people are around you that want to play fighting games
Starting point is 03:29:34 Make sure that you're already better than they are because if there's only two guys in your town to play games with And they're way better than you you might as well just quit right now Or you can meet up with them and try to get them to quit too Yeah, no, yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah get them to quit Um, this includes uh nearby college campuses by the way, there might be people playing in those situations I really just need to start like titling my fucking ff 14 streams as get out of fighting games Yeah, that's why I mean that you know That that that's a gag that uh that I was gonna do something with but like yes get out of fighting games
Starting point is 03:30:11 Has been a thing on on the channel for a bit now um The retirement home awaits Streaming Street Fighter 6 closed beta stop playing fighting games. I tricked you. I tricked you all Just you ever stop it Just you ever see that picture of like That picture of like the noose And like the surrounding environment
Starting point is 03:30:50 Is just like in well in this case it would just be like just arcade sticks and a stack of fighting games and bullshit And then inside of it is just a screenshot of ff 14 Oh, that's good. I like that Just do it Just do it Boy um, all right, we got one coming in uh from lee Uh dare engage past distributor and the man who stares at goat's sea
Starting point is 03:31:37 I submit for your consideration a screenshot Of a forum post that claims to have knowledge of Uh, the design engineer for the engage Based on the face button layout, uh, and uh, you take a look over here And we get redirected to um a picture On a forum that says Oh, I saw this
Starting point is 03:32:03 Um Have I ever told you guys a story behind the engage I worked with an engineer who was on that team The project was mismanaged to hell was basically the nokia Was basically nokia going video games and then but we only make cell phones and the guy in charge Was just told to shove a guy to shove a game boy into a cell phone The industrial engineer sent into design proposals over and over they kept getting rejected for not having Enough buttons and by the end it needed like 25 buttons So to please them and as a stress relief thing
Starting point is 03:32:35 He the guy made a joke design that was a throwaway and then changed projects shortly afterwards Um, he then found out that management accepted the joke design and he was scarred for life because he was afraid everyone would realize That the finished engage product was actually based on goat's sea I Checks out Can't be sourced but checks out now I don't believe you but also
Starting point is 03:33:04 uh, the time frames when which goat's sea was popular and the end gauge were popular were uh Then like 1999 to like 2003 so um, actually The more that I look at it woolly I think that has a level of viability that I was not expecting Yeah, because the d-pad is in the spot where goat's sea's ring is
Starting point is 03:33:31 it like it No, sir. No, no, I know I know I know i'm looking at it. I know the problem is just There's just no fucking way. I don't you know, there's just no fucking way like It checks out the time lines up The stupidity of the people involved in not understanding how to make a console Uh checks out the frustration of the people on the project absolutely But there's just no fucking way
Starting point is 03:34:05 I can't I can't possibly believe that until that guy himself confirms that I yes, I worked there Here's my linkedin page and this is the this is real I I just there's I can't I will not believe one day we'll find out Um, it's too perfect I think someone was very clever and funny and wrote a really funny forum post And that's what happened because it's too perfect Um
Starting point is 03:34:47 Now For those of you who don't know The end gauge is an old nokia console phone and goat's sea is goat's sea I Don't don't look that up if you don't know what we're talking about Goa tse Come on Next you're gonna tell people to go look up the jar
Starting point is 03:35:20 One guy one jar One guy one jar, you know, that's the worst one. It's not the worst one, but it's bad Shout out to justin wang for uh on youtube for covering that uh in detail It's a grave you want to know about the jar you can go down to justin wang's youtube channel and check it out Anyway guys old internet, you know Some of you are have been around long enough to have heard about the legacy Otherwise, some of you are hearing about it for the first time There's a whole generation of people that don't know and you don't have to find out telling you right now
Starting point is 03:35:51 You really don't it's actually vitally important that you don't find out but um You know just like everything and anything it's it's It's right there waiting to not be discovered So All right I'll enjoy that everyone. Mm-hmm stare deep into
Starting point is 03:36:15 The end gauge screen As you ponder And then hold it sideways to your head because you're side talking You're side talking with goat see Hey, you know what you know what you can look you know what you can find if you look deep enough Into that into that hole You can see fighting games You

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