Castle Super Beast - CSB 186: Distance From Irvine CA Ethnicity Tier List

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 music music Alright, let's get this cursed episode on the road already. Jesus Christ. This is a highly cursed episode. I'm once again reminded of when the process was just a series of texts and I was like alright, we'll record on Friday morning, whatever. Yeah, whatever. And then we got a, oh, and then Twitch breaks and it's like, well, do we do it?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Or do we do it live? Or do we not do it live? Or oh my god. Well, the difficulty of ushering people to their seats before we start talking and doing this shit is that when do you start ushering them to their seats, you know? It was kind of simple to just start talking at some point and then click a button and then that was that. Yeah, by the way, if you are watching this live and or tomorrow, which would be the 29th of September and you live anywhere near the Florida area, if you see like wind and or rain, seriously consider going in the opposite direction of the wind and or rain. Yes, no. Definitely have already spoken to some people that are in that area
Starting point is 00:01:47 that have like pieced the fuck out because, no, don't chance that. That's not, yeah, get out of that. Although, yes, they're probably, you know, sharing evacuation warnings where necessary and such. But I don't think it's related, they're saying it's not, but either way, what we're talking about is that, you know, so there was some delay based on like me traveling and then there was some delay based on other, you know, stuff coming up. But then there's just the idea of like, well, also this morning, Twitch has this having server outages, you know, and we couldn't connect,
Starting point is 00:02:26 but it seems like they just started working maybe as soon as we were about to go live. Only the waffle houses are closed. I'm expecting at any point this might go down, though, because they still on support super expecting that on the support account. It still says that it's like, we're having problems. So this might not be super stable, you know, but either way, whatever, there's always the possibility where we can just do it, do it live, not live, do it old school and just upload the offline recording later, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:03:04 It's what a podcast used to be. I think my favorite thing in the world is the dog. While you're doing that, we're trying to be quiet while managing the things in the background. And every time Page has thrown a specific dog toy, it has bounced off of four pieces of furniture to land somewhere it's not supposed to be, which I will now have to go and retrieve for the boy. And we're just like, no, shh, shh, we're texting each other for quietness. And then the instant the item is introduced into the setting,
Starting point is 00:03:39 boot, beat, back behind the couch. Now he's going nuts. Excuse me, everyone. If you're underwater, please stop being underwater, but I have to go get a dog toy. Excuse me. If the toy lands in an awful corner behind a chair somewhere, is he going to try to squeeze himself into that space?
Starting point is 00:03:58 No, not completely. Yes, he is. He will attempt to do that, and then he will get stuck, and then he will start to freak out. Okay, okay. Because he's very smart. Extremely smart, intelligent. I can see the long division, the math,
Starting point is 00:04:18 and the calculus floating out of his head right now. You know, my favorite thing is when you have a big old dog toy and you have a dumb dog like this, you hold it up and the dog's like quivering with anticipation, and then you drop it, and it just bounces straight off their fucking face, and then they go, ah, to try and catch it afterwards. The one thing, it's not just you had one job, it's like you had one desire in life,
Starting point is 00:04:41 you had one thought in your entire brain, and you still failed it. So part of the reason, it's like with him anyway, is like dogs have like remarkably bad eyesight compared to us, so it's not super clear that the item is coming at them until it hits them. Which makes no sense considering the like hunting prowess that, you know... No, smello vision, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Smello vision, it's powerful. It's three-dimensional eyesight. Right, right, right. Hey, so aside from pushing your week around like a Scrabble board, what's been up with you, man? I heard of some wins and losses. Yeah, man, so I guess the, well, before the event, I suppose I beat Silent Hill 3, and I liked that game a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Hey, that's a good game. That was not just a good game, that was a pretty successful sequel to a thing. It was also like, I don't know how it was received at the time, but it's definitely a game that is gate-capped by the first game. That is to say, if you did not play the first game, and you went into three on the hype of a new release back and when it first came out, you got shafted pretty hard. I can give you in detail what I'm going to call the Reception Nightmare that is...
Starting point is 00:06:21 Oh my god, dude. Really? Yeah. No, just part skippers got fucked on this thing. Reception Nightmare, that is the Silent Hill-like series. One comes out, wow, amazing, horror. Two comes out, it's initially regarded as big disappointment. I don't know if you were aware back in 2001, but it was initially regarded as huge disappointment,
Starting point is 00:06:51 because it's not as scary as the first one. Yeah. It's a million times more thoughtful, and it's way better put together. It's a better game. But it's not as scary. Okay, yeah, it wasn't ready. People weren't ready for what they were getting. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:07:07 But then everyone starts to appreciate it, and then three comes out, and three is kind of being built in response to complaints about two for not being scary enough. So you have Silent Hill one, chain and blood and gore and violence, right? Mm-hmm. And then two is decay and sheets and metaphor, right? There's a lot less chain and gore in two. Yeah, no, it's just depression and demise and darkness. Right, and then three comes back, and three is like, this guy is a spinning blade idiot,
Starting point is 00:07:53 and there's dick monsters, and everything's back to chain and blood again. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm also kind of, besides the dick monsters, I'm looking at everything, and I'm trying to be like, so what part of her psyche is this tapping into? And it's like, don't worry about it. And so one is tapping into the psyche of Alessa. Two is tapping into James, and three is tapping into Alessa slash Cheryl, alternately. But like three is a lot more overt.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's a lot less symbolic. There's tons of symbolic shit all over the place, but it's like, no, there is a bad cult, and they want to do bad cult shit, and you got to go stop them. And the two to three reception, like shenanigans, based on who preferred what, leads to arguing about what Silent Hill games are really the good Silent Hill games, and what is Silent Hill really about. I mean, it's a little bit of alien versus aliens, you know? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:00 That's exactly what it is. So you get, oh, you get, okay, Silent Hill Origins, well, that one's about the cult, and Silent Hill Homecoming, well, that one's about the cult, but it's also about the psyche. And then Silent Hill Downpour, that one's, it has no cult, it only psyche. And it's just... Well, I mean, I can strongly say that I much prefer the psyche elements to the cult elements. Yeah, so do I, personally. There are a little less, you know, predictable in that regard, but...
Starting point is 00:09:31 Well, well, that is, you haven't played Silent Hill 4 yet, which may damage your view of the Silent Hill psyche series like this. Okay, okay. Because the biggest problem with, like, the two focuses is that Silent Hill 2 is like, what if it was a personal, introspective story? And then Downpour and The Room and Homecoming were all like, what if we were also an introspective story that wasn't nearly as good as Silent Hill 2? Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 A bad psyche story. But it was just way worse. Right, a bad one. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, I remember early on, since Shattered Memories was like my first experience with it, I was really impressed by, like, going through it and then catching the explanation for what each thing you encountered was, what it meant and why, right? So that was always way more interesting to me than sort of a protagonist that finds himself
Starting point is 00:10:36 as a fish out of water in a hostile setting, you know? So in any case, though, this one is definitely filled up with, like, the, like, big passing of the torch energy, you know, one of the, as I mentioned before, only successful instances, spoilers for Silent Hill 3, but one of the only... It came out in 2003, but okay. It sure did. One of the only successful instances I can think of of, like, killing a main character off-screen, and it's like, oh, that was actually, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:10 No, that worked. That's exactly the way it should have been. Yeah. That would not have been a bombastic, fighting the monster thing. And when it comes to, like, expectations of, like, how you're going to close things off, it's like, it's, you know, efficiently creepy. All the support characters are just unsettling enough and dubious enough to have you, like, eh, I don't know what your deal is, and you're speaking in the weird way, so that's also
Starting point is 00:11:36 a definitive trade of the series at this point. But that ending letter in 2 is such a fucking high bar that it feels... Oh, it's a punch. Unfair to even expect that of any other game I'm going into play. So I'm not looking for that moment in any of the games, you know. Like, after that, I'm like... You're not going to get it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Right? So what I am looking for is just something really good, just something solid about the conclusion of the story. And I felt like I got that. And it was real simple, but it was that one moment after she fucking kills God, and she's like, is that it? Is that enough? Anyone else wants some?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Whatever. And then there's, like, just exhausted, and it's just walking away, and then, like, that little, like, bravado moment just slips away. She just crumples and goes, oh, dad, oh, fuck, like, just has a real, real moment of, like, and now it comes crashing in, and you just get to, like, it knocks you off your feet, kind of, and then she gets... Now that the shock has passed, now that the dissociation that is required to combat the issue is passed, all of your bad emotions are...
Starting point is 00:12:56 Everything that you put on the back shelf, and you, like, you stuffed it away in order to deal with the threat. And now that the threat's dealt with, it comes crashing down, and it's just a quick little just fuck, you know? And I felt that really, really strongly, and then she gets back up and then keeps going, you know? And I'm like, damn, that was excellent. I really liked that moment for her.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I think one of the best... It was a great release. I think Silent Hill 3 has the best, oh, how do I call this? It's not a system's Easter egg, it has one of the best use of its prequels interface. So James had red squares as save points, right? Blood red squares as save points. So you walk into a bathroom in Silent Hill 3, and you see a big glowing seal of the metatron that you might recognize from one, or one of the others, like, okay, well that's a save
Starting point is 00:13:58 point, right? So we're going to be using these as save points, and you go through the whole game doing that until you get to the amusement park, at which point it's reminded of you, particularly if you played Silent Hill 1, that save points in Silent Hill 1 were not red squares, and they were not cult symbols, they were notepads, and as such, because you're retreading a nightmare variation of an old area, you can find that Harry was actually writing things on those notepads. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And you get to have just the tiniest little window of context that just goes back in through its save point from what? And you read what he was writing. Yeah, that was cool, that was pretty solid. And yeah, then there's a couple of moments too, like, there are some rooms where, like, the lighting and the color, just, everything just works at full fucking, like, all cylinders going, and it like, that room, the Belfry, is just, it's so gorgeous by today's standards even, it looks so good compared to anything else, and you're like, okay, like, this is
Starting point is 00:15:16 also kind of showing you, it's being faithful, it's kind of going like, here's Silent Hill, as you know it, here's the foggy town, here's these environments, here's the hospital again, but there's a couple of moments of just like, damn, this thing looks really good still, you know, that mirror room, man. Yeah, I'm just thinking about the mirror room, and it's like, first of all, reflections are hard, you know that, people who've worked in games know that, people who've played a lot of games know that mirrors are hard. But what if you use the fact that mirrors are hard to have the best scare room in almost
Starting point is 00:15:49 any survival horror game, and then when you go to leave, you find out that they've invented a new type of texture that only works on the PlayStation 2, by the way, so that the walls can fucking bleed. Blur, wall texture on blur, where you can't quite tell where the wall ends, because if they just dropped a spooky meat texture on existing geometry, that's going to look like shit, that ain't going to work, but it's the fact that the edges soften on everything that's not you, and you're now walking in a dreamscape, and it's, it really works. Like, it can't be overstated just how unbelievable it was to be playing Silent Hill 3 upon its
Starting point is 00:16:36 release on a PlayStation 2, and just how much way better, it's better looking than almost anything else on that console, and it was the best looking characters for like 10 years after that. It's interesting that it's a response to the way people felt about 2 as well, because one of the big things being that the ending is a standardized ending, you're only going to get the first time each time, and then after that, the variations come into play. That's an interesting choice. Yeah, the game also has a million costumes and super weapons, because there's no variability
Starting point is 00:17:24 in your path through the game, they're like, well, let's give them a reason to replay it by giving you the super gun and the laser and what have you. You could almost feel where there could have been multiple, like when you walk up to Douglas, and it's just like to trigger a cutscene that's like, I'm just checking up on you, and it's like still alive, I'm still here, and it's almost like, oh yeah, like that's meant to be a little variation, and of course later on it can be, but when it comes to giving you a default ending up front, it's interesting that it's like avoiding you having a feeling of, you know that stuff I was talking about where I'm like 2 is silly with the whole,
Starting point is 00:18:09 how often do you stare at the portrait, how often do you overheal, right? Those are bad metrics for what ending you should get, but a good metric for what ending you should get is like an in-game decision about like how to handle a character or using an item, a special item in a special place, right? That makes sense. It's like that's a direct action that is affecting the sequence of events, and it's not just a like passive, like weird mechanic that you didn't into it, you know? So they didn't have to do it like, okay, no choices at first, and then later on you do
Starting point is 00:18:44 get them. They could have just kept it to like, you know, actions you do in terms of like interacting in the world or using the right item at the right time, as opposed to like the little background things, but still, I get it, you know? Our four goes right back to the insanity of gameplay metric. Did you look at the map for over 20 minutes? It's two main things. One is what events did you go ahead and do, like, you know, did you do this?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Did you do that? Did you find this? Did you talk to this person? That kind of thing. The other is based off of the long term total health, health loss of your escort character. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Which is just, um, just now there's, there's a real solid one in this where like, it's like, okay, how much damage do you take? How much do you kill? Right? Those are all points you can earn to affect your ending. Yeah. There's a real good one, which is you walk into that confessional and you listen. And that is a great moment because you're like, wait, who is this person?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Do we know this person? It's like, could be, but I, it sounds like a random cultist resident of this town that feels awful about what they're doing and just wants a little bit of absolution. And you get to sit there and choose if you give that, you know, that's a great one because it's like, do you feel sorry for this person who regrets these bad actions? Or what, what do you do? Do you say nothing? Or do you say, I forgive you, you know, and, uh, that is like, I'm like, fuck that because
Starting point is 00:20:50 that's not, you're still like, you're not saying this to the victim. You're saying this to a fucking father, probably Vincent is who you're aiming it at really in a, in a, in a cloister and you're hoping for your own guilt to go away. Meanwhile, the person you're inflicting this on is still suffering out there. Fuck you. You don't get that absolution, you know, and, uh, I saw you say no. And then I go and I was looking at the, the ending metrics and it's like, if you say yes, that's a thousand points towards the dark side, you know, so like that shoots you right
Starting point is 00:21:25 onto the like lost Heather ending. And it's like, yep, that makes perfect sense. I like that. I like a decision like that, you know, Daniel, that game's great. It's, it's one, two and three. Everyone's like, wow, those are absolutely incredible. Or is so weird that some people love it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Some people hate it, but it's still got its charm. And then after that, they're all, Yeah, I can, I can see that, uh, you know, like Reggie and I have been jokingly calling it the trilogy, but, uh, you know, Oh, it absolutely is. And I mean the events of one and three are directly related. Um, there's definitely like, uh, uh, you know, a couple of, there's some things with four that I've heard and I'm like, I don't have seen them like at a couple of people have
Starting point is 00:22:20 been like, is play for you coward, whatever. And it's like, yeah, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. We'll see. Is that it has tons and tons of cool shit in it. Silent Hill four has tons of really, really fascinating, interesting shit. It also has some of the worst mechanical decisions I've ever seen in a series. Like in, in, like you've played through one, two and three.
Starting point is 00:22:42 So now this will hit you in Silent Hill four. You have a maximum number of inventory slots and ammo doesn't stack. Jesus, Jesus sucks. That's even worse. Oh man. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 That's frustrating. Um, I mean, I had a weird experience playing, uh, uh, this one because so the, the big, the big, uh, complaint over the way I have, I've played has been that like, I just melee everything and I don't use my bullets and then I'm just like walking around like clunking through Silent Hill with tons of fucking ammo, Vulcan ravening these streets. So I kind of was like, okay, well, my preference is certainly to melee and it doesn't help that, uh, they gave me a samurai sword to fuck around with this time, but it's a good melee weapon.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Survival horror standards. It's really fun. It's incredible. Um, so that's my preference and that's the way I go about it, especially knowing how limited bullets are. But because whatever, playing the LP and doing the things, I'm like, all right, let me just spend the gun more often. Let me just use the things I have as opposed to hitting the credits and like never using
Starting point is 00:23:57 it. Right. So I do that at the, um, at the, uh, Shadow Heather boss and then right around that time too, I'm like, okay, it seems like things are coming to a close. So I pretty much just mag dump into Shadow Heather and then like that entire sequence right afterwards is like, not only is this not about to come to a close yet, you've got quite a bit to go, but, uh, you're not going to get a re-up on that ammo. And I kind of had a moment where we had a fuck safe because it just introduces the fastest
Starting point is 00:24:29 enemy in the game now at right, right after that sequence that like is pretty much like kind of one shotting you, um, with the, with the, and I, you know, I'm running out of heal the health items and I'm like, okay. So in one moment I can see the exact like thing that could have been happening throughout my court, my journey through all these games by just like, again, like using all the bullets or whatever. Yeah. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Imagine. Possibly a fuck safe. Imagine. Imagine you're 11 years old and this is the, this is the lesson that you've been taught by one, two and three and resident evil one and two. And imagine replaying those games and creating situations where you don't shoot a single god damn thing for like four hours and then you get to the last level and you are just an action movie.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Right, right. Yeah. Exactly. And you can, you have now gotten into it enough that you can see the straight line from these older styles to it's my favorite thing. In resident evil two, at the end of my Leon campaign, when I was fighting Mr X, I had so much ammo that I couldn't put it in my inventory. I had so much ammunition that I had to leave like hundreds of rounds in the box and I was
Starting point is 00:25:48 like having a panic attack as to whether or not I would have enough ammunition for the final boss. Right. Right. Yeah. Because it just, it feeds it to you. And if you make the reasonable mistake at the wrong time, it hits you. It hits you real hard.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So my instincts were fully 100% correct in this regard. And what ended up happening is like, is like after, you know, getting to that final boss and like using just about everything, it comes down to the most like, uh, just AI breaking like playing footsies with the devil and using the sword, you know, and learning the exact sequence and doing and it was pretty hype, all things considered. But it was clearly meant to be a like open up all the fucking, uh, uh, just, just reload and fire from full screen and just like dump into this thing. Gunslinger, um, and I, and, and, you know, I did it the like, again, possibly on a bad
Starting point is 00:26:58 save way, which is just be more flawless and it'll be okay, you know, um, type of thing. But uh, yeah, all, all, all things to consider though, I'm like, okay, if I, uh, I'm definitely down to look at this again, you know, maybe not immediately, but uh, if I come back to this, I know, uh, that like my instincts to play that melee game, learn the footsies, learn the melee swings, hit that dog out of mid jump, you know, um, that's, that's it. That's what this game is. That's, that's probably optimal. So the, the biggest thing, because at that time you had games that were like Resident
Starting point is 00:27:36 Evil and games that were like Silent Hill and Silent Hill one, uh, Silent Hill two and three, not one, um, are fairly easily clear bowl with their excellent melee weapons. One has like certain versions of the final boss, like fly, it's just, you're not, it's not going to happen. But you got the Mason back step, baby. You got the Mason back step. It's too good, but, um, but like, thank God. Because in Reds Evil, in the older ones anyway, and the, the games that were like it, if you
Starting point is 00:28:15 ran low on ammunitions, your, your, your response was to just fucking die because you didn't have any melee option that would actually hurt anything. Hmm. Um, Code Veronica is like, in terms of fucking up your save file, Code Veronica is the worst game I have ever played. It has so many, it has three spots where it's incredibly easy to just soft lock yourself. There's a boss fight you can save at before the boss fight, but you don't have access to your items.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So you can end up just being locked in with like not enough to kill the boss or barely enough to kill the boss. But worse than that is that you switch between Claire to Chris and then Chris to Claire again for about half an hour and then back to Chris to finish the game. But only items in the box carry over to the other character, but you don't know and have no ability to choose when you switch. It's just poor the next item. So you don't know playing as Claire that you would, any item you have on your person is
Starting point is 00:29:24 not going to be able to transfer over to fucking Chris and vice versa. And then you play as Claire for like an hour and you can go, Oh cool, I'm playing as Claire for a while. I'll load up with healing items and then you switch off and then all those items get trapped on you. Yep. The Odin Sphere problem. That's the end of Odin Sphere original as well.
Starting point is 00:29:42 They probably think they're creating tension by making it like, Oh fuck, you know, you got to adapt. But it's just like, No, but this is less fun though. This sucks. Yeah. That sounds really frustrating. And then I guess it's and then it's like, Okay, well, load on older save. Do it better this time.
Starting point is 00:30:00 You know, I guess is the, the, the actual intended. Yeah. No. So, um, tips and tricks magazine in the 1990, February, 1998 issue that had the Resident Evil two guy had a piece of advice in it, um, that was like ideal for playing the game, terrible for streaming it, which was make us clean, safe, save game. Then go and fuck around, shoot everything, open up everything, explore every room, don't give a shit, then reload your save.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Now you know where all the items are. Now you know what, what rooms are important and what rooms you need to kill enemies in. This was a tip that was given that that is horrible. Most importantly, rotate your saves because keeping a single save file in a, in a resident evil, silent Hill, whatever is a good way to end up with no ammunition. Okay. So in other words, play the game and then when you play it a second time, now you'll know what to do.
Starting point is 00:31:10 There you go. That's our big tip. Like, yeah, sure. Rotating of course. Yes. This is in fact, it'd be nice if the, if a game were to tell you or even like automatically just like, Hey, we'll be rotating for you. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But yeah. Good game. Good game. That was, that was dope. And once again, the music is like very unique and very solid. Just that little. So what's really strange is that Silent Hill music is extremely unique and extremely solid. But the one thing that all the games, even the ones not made by the same developers
Starting point is 00:31:54 kept in common was the same style of music. And so like, it has a vocal track that's like folksy rock by Mary Elizabeth McGlynn. It has a sad vocal track by Mary Elizabeth McGlynn and it has like six different kinds of industrial fucking grunge nightmare shit. Because Yamaoka did all the music except for Dampore. So like, it ends up in this weird situation where it's really unique. But then there are like nine games that have this exact style and it's not actually that unique anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:33 One of the best tracks was only used on the walk up to the final room, which is just like Mongolian throat singing for a hallway and a half. And I'm like, God damn it, that that's a really good track to just use right there, but only for a little bit, you know, yeah. But anyway, so that was the journey through SH3. Love that game. That's a good game. And parts, parts are coming.
Starting point is 00:33:06 As we go, then yes, I went out to combo con 2022 in Michigan. So yeah, Reggie came out down there as well, then Kenny and I patch Wolf. And we had a good time. There was a whole lot of so I brought my I brought my kites in the hopes that like, because it's a windy area, I was hoping for like an opportunity to do some of that. There's like windmills all around, but unfortunately just didn't have the time for it. Brought some boxing gloves as well, because last time down there, Hunter, the organizer shotouts, you know, had had the gym that we could like sparring and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Didn't get the chance to do that either and ended up just being like a full venue weekend. But yeah, we had a good time. You know, it was kind of a very different energy from last time. It was the last time as it was set up in like a VFW, which was, you know, kind of a like a Veterans Association building and had a very weird. So that's where they, because it's a fundraiser for vets, right? That's what the that's what the events are for. And that's that's originally where they were held and it's kind of like a bit of almost
Starting point is 00:34:27 like a church basement tournament kind of vibe to that, you know, it was cool. And then this time around, it was in a nightclub. So like the energy difference was quite staggering with, with neon lights and cages and bars. Yeah, because I saw some footage from it and I'm like, that doesn't look like a Veterans Association. That is not a Veterans Association at all. That is there. There is straight up like stages with cages for dancing and I didn't see a stripper pole, but definitely like a VIP back section and like the place where you'd go and there'd
Starting point is 00:35:01 be bottle service type things. I'm like, OK, that's a vibe change, but it was super sick. No, it was really fun. And yeah, so there were a couple of tournaments all weekend. Definitely some of the highlights have popped up throughout the throughout the the stream on matchstick melee, one of which for sure was me and Reggie making it to grand finals in Marvel three, Reggie taking the set and popping off. I did not know that Reggie knew how to play Marvel three.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Oh, well, I mean, like we like all we all know how to play in the same way that like, you know, going to weeklies, we would just or, you know, mess around and enter, you know, stuff. And yeah, he played a bit when that came out. I mean, I would say like I'd say Reggie knows how to play a little bit of like everything recent that's come out. Like you touch we touched everything a little bit, you know, like you go to a when locals are going on and people are like, oh, yeah, this just dropped and you see some people playing it's like, oh, yeah, let's fuck around.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Let's learn a character. The goal is to basically be like, because here's the thing, you're going to be in a situation where no matter what, at some point in the future, someone might ask you to come play some game that you've never played before. And even if you never ever do touch this thing again, you have to know at least one character, right? You got to know at least one person. You got to know at least something.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't touch under night in birth very often, if ever. But if I do, I kind of know a thing or two about Merkava just in case, you know, yeah, it's important to have at least one. And yeah, no. So yeah, we, we, we, we did the grand final set. Reggie got his pop off. He threw a chair. He's deserving pop off.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It was, it was a pretty, it was a pretty good moment. And the whole time I'm just like, God damn it. Okay. So there's a, there's a bit that is one of the strongest bits in the world is, um, so shout out to Jiyuna, uh, anime Illuminati. He, he won the Southeast Asian majors persona for ultimax tournament. And there's some shorts that you can, that you, that you get as the grand finalist, right?
Starting point is 00:37:23 And shorts, it's a pair of like, like Muay Thai shorts. And that's a silly. And you get to rock the shorts and be like, Hey, I'm a, I'm an authority on fighting games. Look at the shorts, bro. Right. And there's like photo shops of like the, you know, like, like the gigachat, but he's got the shorts on and it's just like a silhouette.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And it's like, Oh shit, he's coming. You know? So, um, it's such a, so like, I'm like, yeah, like the ability to just like take home, uh, uh, a trophy and be like, Hey man, I'm the combo con 2022 Marvel champion. You can't argue with me. I got the, I got the trophy to back it up and that motherfucker stole my bit. He stole the bit. He knew, he knew I wanted it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Um, so it doesn't have the same, well, it doesn't have the same ring. Ring to it. When I hold up my top three finalists, uh, uh, token, it doesn't, it doesn't have the same authority. So let me ask you, you went down there and Reggie beat you in Marvel. I remember you discussing you going down there originally so that you could beat Kenny at some kind of, that was a different event. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:42 That's a different event. There were multiple events. There are multiple terms. In fact, there were, there were a ton of tournaments. Um, there were, there was like, yeah, there was a, uh, uh, but just about like every, you know, major game had a tournament except for DNF fucking dual, which God damn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Fuck that. That have robots do rock, paper, scissors on it now. That was a huge bummer because I'm, I would have absolutely cleaned up that. But regardless, there was no DNF tournament. There was a rock, paper, scissors tournament even, um, which, uh, yeah. Uh, a clip of that went up with the, the power of my scissors, uh, in that set was pretty sick. Um, what you're talking about is one of the events we did that weekend was,
Starting point is 00:39:27 I just want to stop you there for a second. Uh, I forgot to mention it, but a couple of weeks ago, cause I have no reason to talk about rock, paper, scissors. Me and Paige, uh, we met, I like, you ever get that, you ever get that, that shared brain experience where like, yeah, it's good. This is meant to be like, we're like, oh, we're going to, we rock, paper, scissors or something. And we went like 14 times.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Just tiesies. That's sick. That's crazy. Okay. Good, good. Excellent. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Perfect. No. Um, punch mom does not have a competitive bone in her body. So every time there's like a push for some sort of like, let's go. She's like, ah, I'm like, yeah. That makes you the winner. I hope you feel proud. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:17 No, like, even if it's just, I lost that rock, paper, scissors. That's a, that's a pretty sick set. Um, but, uh, all that to say, uh, what you're thinking of was, uh, um, woolly versus Kenny, uh, Dreadmint day two, right? So how to go, we did the dreaded encounter the first time, uh, this is the rematch and the rematch, uh, we both pick a game and then there's a tiebreaker. So, uh, yeah, we played, um, virtual fighter five, which, uh, Kenny took. Uh, and that's what I found out too.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Uh, he, he does, uh, he yells bitch. I'm wild a whole lot during the set. So you can figure that one out. That is, that is really excellent for a dread based fighting game challenge. That is a plus. Uh, very, very solid. Uh, I mean, not to mention, he's, you know, he's got a, uh, uh, he's got a, an Eddie Gordo in Tekken, of course, you know, so like the dreads continue.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Um, then we played DNF dual and I showed him the good Lord's word. Um, and then the, uh, the third game was, hold on, before you continue, does, does Kenny, is he familiar with DNF at all? I mean, he picked Crusader as well and he did a couple of combos that showed like, yeah, he's, he's did some combos, you know, he did some stuff. I feel like, like varying skill levels in that game just doesn't look like a video game. So it looks like a training dummy, but like it's similar, but that, but that's
Starting point is 00:42:06 exactly it. Like it, it, he did. Like again, I think there's probably at least like a minimal warm up process to some degree or something, but you know, he picked a, he picked a Crusader as well and did some stuff, but it was almost like, because like last time we played, um, we played MK nine, uh, and then, and then, uh, that, which was his pick. And then we played three, five or four, which was mine. So, you know, it's just going to be what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Um, but yeah, uh, uh, in DNF, I, uh, I brought the good word of the Lord, um, to the masses and, uh, you know, took that and, and, and did so convincingly. That's what it is. And then the tiebreaker was, um, hero versus, which is, uh, not out yet, but it is a game that is a, it's a mobile fighting game and it is going to be on steam as well, which, uh, there was a bill, I remember this. Yeah. And so there's like, it's the game that like, there's the character art of me
Starting point is 00:43:02 in it and as Kenny as well. And there's alternate skins. So I have a, uh, a skin on top of the boxer character Rodriguez and, um, Kenny has, uh, a skin on top of the, uh, grappler slash army man. Uh, I forgot the character's name, uh, but, uh, that was, that was what it was. Now, if that was a little bit of, uh, uh, you know, that was, uh, that was fast and loose cause we were both sitting down touching it for the first time, playing as ourselves for the first time, you know, kind of just like, what are we
Starting point is 00:43:36 doing here? You know, um, and, uh, my character was like full of Dudley style. Like, um, there's like a backswing blow. There's a, you know, like machine gun punch kind of thing. Yeah. And a shoryuken, um, which I couldn't figure out how to string things together properly, uh, Kenny had, uh, a big zoning gun and a one button jumping air grab and I was like, well, cause, cause the moves are all like what, there's
Starting point is 00:44:07 like three buttons for three spots, but like, yeah, on reaction to anything in the air, you press it, protect the skies crazy. It was crazy. And I quickly realized I was like, Oh boy. Okay. These kids are not, might not necessarily be made even, um, cause you know, uh, that, that fancy Dempsey rolling and Dudley moves only work if like, um, oh, you're not swinging back into a button, you know, like, ooh, you fancy dodge
Starting point is 00:44:35 out and then you come back in and then you're eating a fist or a gun. But, uh, I'm still managed to win at the end of the day and, uh, secured the victory as the dreaded, the dreaded champion, um, to which I was awarded a sash, uh, which is back over there, which interestingly is, uh, it's got like a crown and then there's a black and yellow trimming on it, which, you know, Tobias and Boon would be proud, uh, seeing as the, the right colors for black Mortal Kombat characters have been, are now, uh, incorporated into that sash.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So, oh man. Um, you're wearing yellow right now. Yeah. Cause it's, well, it's literally a combo con shirt. It's the bullet club combo con thing, you know, and ready for MK. Yeah. And shout outs too for the tag on the back. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah. That was fun. Did you get to pick your number? Uh, I did. Nice. Um, so that was, uh, that was a fun one. Uh, other events included, uh, woolly versus Fago, uh, which will be also coming out soon on the channel in which, you know, I've never had Fago.
Starting point is 00:45:58 How is it? Well, we sat down and tried out what I want to say is maybe 12 different flavors of fucking Fago dude. And pretty impressive. Man. Like, okay. I kind of like, I got a spit bucket ready just because you never know. And also I have not ingested that much sugar in years.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Um, I ended up opting not to spit, uh, just for the sake of like decency and stream. Did you have, did you have the water to cleanse your palette with? Eventually water did come. So it wasn't there right away, but it did come. Um, fuck dude. Fago is just, you know how they used to make soda back in the day, right? I do. You manually would squirt the, the high fructose corn syrup and then pour the fizzy
Starting point is 00:46:56 water. I had a, I had like a robot, like a, like a, instead of a juicer was like, make your own soda at home, fucking thing. Yeah. Or the powder is even, you know, and in this case, it's just what if you put five too many squirts into the can and then drop the same amount of fizzy water, uh, it is wild. And the thing is when you look at like normal American soda already has, like
Starting point is 00:47:26 I look at the back of a can and I said, it already has too much. It already has way more than our soda does, right? Yeah. So the funniest thing is like, I remember I had one of the monsters on camera right during this training, like a regular monster and I, I, I struggled to swallow it. Me, I'm, I'm the sugar king. I love that shit.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Struggled. It was like, it's revolting and like the sugar free ones are almost too sweet to drink. I don't know what the other thing they put in these things. It's crazy. You see, so you'd get like a can here that I would consider high. It would be like, um, well, they'd be like 40 grams, you know, um, and then you look at like a normal American soda and then it would be like 60, 65.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And some of these fucking things were going up to 80. It's just Americans need more sugar. Um, wild amounts, but, uh, we, uh, yeah. So, so basically ended up creating a tier list for everything. And, uh, I do have to say it was not all just backwash. There were some winners. There were some winners in there. There always are.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Mm hmm. Um, well, not unless you're drinking the, oh God, what was it? I'm trying to think like what the worst energy drink John bomb ever had. I think it was the Blizzard potion energy drink, the mana potion. Oh wow. Okay. Apparently tastes like rotten. Uh, I can tell you right now that like outside of this ranking event, I had one
Starting point is 00:49:02 of the most disgusting things because part of, uh, while down there, I'm, you know, I was like, you know what? I'm also going to do a thing that I'm going to do that I don't usually do is I'm going to try to get to, I want to go to some places or have some food from places that I don't usually get a chance to try that are it's like American, just trash food staples. Um, so, uh, got to a red lobster, got the cheddar biscuits, did the thing. You know, I'm like, yep, these are fucking excellent.
Starting point is 00:49:31 These cheddar biscuits, they're good. Um, got to, uh, there was a Benignans, unfortunately didn't get to go to the Benignans, but I have heard about those. I want to know, um, got to a, what was the one, what was the one, uh, uh, what to, uh, uh, Olive Garden, right? Ordered, ordered, ordered a bop at a boopy, got some, got the tour of Italy and it's like, yep, that's about what I expected of the Olive Garden. The breadsticks, there's endless amounts.
Starting point is 00:50:06 You eat in the pasta, you're like, yep, that's, there you go. That's fine. That'll do the thing. It's, it's, uh, right. What you expect, um, ordered some fucking Arby's and I have never had a more mid like sandwich in my life. It's the type, like it went in and I kind of was just all I'm thinking about is all those daily show jokes over the years about like how fucking insane it
Starting point is 00:50:33 was. And, uh, sure enough, someone who worked there, who worked at Arby's for a couple of years was like, Oh yeah, dude, you don't want to know about how we make those sandwiches. Like I was there for a couple of years in a, you know, it's rough. Um, wait, what can, it's Arby's is like a ham sandwich. What could you do to it? It's just the block of meat that they get frosted and then they have to defrost it
Starting point is 00:50:53 and then it's just a goop and then you just, you shave off some slices from the goop and then you cook them for the day. Let me tell you the other, the other day, Paige and I went on a little day trip to explore around and we saw a restaurant that I have never heard of that they got out here in British Columbia that appeared from like a far distance to be some kind of Denny's variation. Mm-hmm. Shoney's.
Starting point is 00:51:21 I have on, I have never seen a restaurant with a more disgusting, more repellent name. It's called the white spot. Yeah. Like everything about like, it, it makes me think of like a stained bedsheet. It's just like, Oh my God. Oh, that's good. Let's go eat at the.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Lord. I'm like, we have to eat at one eventually, but like every time we pass it, we're like now's today isn't that day. I was telling Reggie about the, uh, the cracker barrel and unfortunately we didn't find any, we didn't get to go to one, but that's one where it's like, we need to go there just so that you can stand in the gift shop in the front and just look around and start to feel really nervous. That gift shop.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Bagger barrels have fucking gift shop. You have to walk through it to get to the restaurant. Why? Because it's a, because it's an old timey vibe and they want that vibe to be what you experienced first, then you get to the food and that vibe don't understand is either really nostalgic for some people or super terrifying for other. So we see you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Depends on the meaning of the good old days, something about a cracker barrel gift shop makes you really nervous. You know, but then you get the chat, then you get the, uh, the biscuits engraving. You're like, God damn it. This food is good. It was real. They're the best gets engraving is solid. Um, anyway, uh, uh, I decided to just fully embrace the, the place I was in.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And, uh, while Reggie was drawn snores, I ordered me some two a.m. Taco Bell because I'm like, I want to, you're going ham on all the Americana here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I need to know. So I'm like, Oh yeah, I seen a commercial for that. What's that? A gordita crunch. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Throw one of those in, give me one of them. Chalupa, Lupas, whatever. And then, uh, and then of course the word, which I've heard and seen the memes of, but I've, I, I need to know they had a big old jumbo, Baja Blast mountain do sugar free. And I'm like, I've never seen a Baja Blast diet mountain do Baja Blast. What the fuck? And I ordered that shit and it just shows up and it's a, it's not a cup.
Starting point is 00:54:06 It's a bucket size. It's like the, like the jumbo crazy theater thing. Like it's ridiculous, ridiculous sized. And I took two sips and like, I cannot for the life of me identify anything remotely resembling a normal flavor or fruit. Nothing about it tastes real. It is the most chemically manufactured shit. I can't believe how non real it tasted.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It was so weird, super fucking weird. Yeah, that reminds me of a discussion I had a little while ago about how like, I'm not super big on watermelon, but shitty, fake chemical watermelon. Fucking load me up with that. Yeah, like I feel as if there's this a horrifying future where we can create like an entire group of like dark fruits that are just not fruits that ever existed, but you can get them in soda flavors, you know, that reminds me, you know how banana flavored shit doesn't taste like a banana at all.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah, it in fact tastes like a completely different thing. You know why that is? Why? Because it tastes like actual banana before the banana famine. Oh, before all we got left with was the dole. OK, OK, yeah. Quick history lesson for anyone who doesn't know bananas used to have multiple types and and strains back in the day in the seventies.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And then a banana famine killed off every single type, but the only one resistant was the dole for banana. So that's what they all are like. Shit banana now and then if and then there's the alternate family stuff like figs and plantains, but that's a different thing. Yeah, dude, there are some wild dark fruits that are just there's no you can't put your finger on it. It doesn't taste like anything you've ever tasted, but and Baja Blast absolutely
Starting point is 00:56:04 is that this fucking aqua blue green colored thing. So it tastes like chemicals, right? Yeah, that's what it tastes like. Yeah, just absolute chemical. And it's like this tastes like chemicals. This this doesn't taste like a like a food that was invented. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in a more sinister way, I would say, um, but anyway, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:28 you describe the taste of Baja Blast as sinister chemicals. Like I just like when I taste like a fake fruit, like I'm tasting like, like, oh, you extracted a whole ton of the, of this like orange or this grape and then you distilled it. And now it's like a powder and then that dried powder is being mixed back into this concentrate and we're going to drink that, right? But this thing, uh, it's a blue green. It's aqua.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Okay. And taste blue. No, it doesn't. It, it tastes like someone in a lab coat with a beaker dripping something into something. That, you know, it tastes like Walter White and Jesse Pinkman looking through the, you know, dude, like cooking. That's what it's just, it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Um, it's teal. Yes. It tastes teal. That's what it tastes. It doesn't taste blue. I know what blue tastes like. It tastes teal. Um, so anyways, uh, yeah, that happened.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And then, uh, you know, got to, again, got to, uh, uh, uh, experience some of that cuisine. Um, then there was, uh, of course, the, the fun of, um, in the middle of, not in the middle of the night, well, really it was on Saturday morning. Um, you know, drawing snores, uh, dozen, sleep in soundly, um, the very low volume level of Cartoon Network in the background, cause TV on as you do. Um, and then, you know, uh, being wake it, woken up to the sound of a grenade exploding, uh, Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I forgot you're in Michigan, right? Being woken up to the sound of an explosion, uh, but it's not a distant explosion. It's an explosion happening in the room with us. Oh, all right. And, um, jolted out of bed, right? Staring at what's happening. Where are we dead?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Are we dying? Who's attacking what just all everything and both of us are there and like just trying to process and then, um, uh, the sound of like, like, again, like metal and, and just boom and whatever, you know, ringing. Uh, so, uh, re we then look at the floor and the fridge is open and a kill and like tilted, um, and there's just like shit everywhere. And then I'm just staring at it and I'm like, it's way too early. Brain can't process.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Reggie goes, can's exploded. And what happened was that's it. It's one of these like shitty fridges where we bought it. We did a CVS run, bought a bunch of cans, put them in the fridge and then the freezer is also a part of the fridge, but it's just the top right corner. And it's nothing. It's just, if you put something in the top right, that's the freezer now.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That's all it is. Um, that's so stupid, the stupidest fridge design I've ever seen. Uh, you know, and, uh, yeah. Like, so a bunch of shit in there, uh, including a fucking, um, um, like I even got some, uh, uh, what's it called? The, the canned water there, uh, liquid death, you know, um, just Kaboom shit everywhere, just absolute, you know, and like an ice all over the ground, uh, to which, um, Reggie appropriately, you know, remarks, uh, yeah, ice really did blow
Starting point is 01:00:21 our door down. You know, they, they, so, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, good times. Um, anyway, whatever. So, uh, yeah, we did, uh, we had that, we did the Fago testing. The video is going to come up. You'll see, uh, there, and then, uh, uh, there was the, um, the, the tournament of dreams, uh, FGC edition, full guttural carnage. Is what we're going with in, in which, uh, we did, uh, a, uh, basically, uh, it
Starting point is 01:00:59 was an event to, to, to get to the bottom of some of the recent, uh, recent FGC, um, news, recent FGC rivalries, a lot of new, new FG, game, a lot of new fighting games have been popping up and, you know, uh, we wanted a tournament to kind of decide, uh, who the real winners were, who, who the real heroes of the fighting game community were with all these new entrance showing up. So, um, we decided to, of course, create a number of, uh, fighting game characters in WrestleMania, uh, 2K22 and have them fight it out in a tournament to decide, uh, the history of fighting games, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So, uh, great event, good times, lots of fun. That will be popping up on the channel as well. Um, yeah, it was, uh, it was cool. It was good. That's all, as always, the real winners of those in the fighting game community are the people who no longer play fighting games. It's like, give a round of applause to everybody who stopped. Um, and then, of course, there's just the, the background that is like rural
Starting point is 01:02:09 Michigan, which is just your, um, deadly premonition, David Lynchian, small town America vibe and just like turning corners and staring at the back of this alleyway. And it's like, this just looks like an area where like the sky didn't finish loading. It, you know, the topa lives there. It's just, you know, just had to take that in quite a bit. Just like, yeah, that's what's up with that. That's just, it's a vibe.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Um, and then, you know, like you're, you're, you're going to run into as many, um, you're going to run into as many grocery stores as you will, like taxidermy shops, you know, to take your, uh, your kill if you go hunting and you got, you need someone to, to stuff it. There's more than enough places ready and waiting for that. So, uh, yeah, good, good shit. Um, and, uh, yeah, I guess, uh, I guess that's about it. I mean, there's some other stuff, but it will discuss it in the news, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:03:15 So, um, shout outs to anybody who came out and said what's up, you know, uh, to had some fun conversations with some people. Um, and yeah, it was just a little, you know, small, little cute thing, but it was a good time. It was a good time. Uh, so we will be, um, oh yeah. There was a, uh, uh, a charity, uh, auction as well that was pot that was going. And I saw some events were being auctioned off.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And then a Tetris blanket was held up, uh, to which, uh, I, I believe I was, I think I was on the commentator booth and I think I just, I got up and just walked over and said $200. Fuck all y'all. And you enjoying your Tetris blankets, sir? Uh, well, and then, uh, this fucking, this shit kid comes up and is like 300. I'm like, you don't have got, you don't, if, if you let that ride, that person probably would have gone, I don't even want the blank.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I do. Well, that's the thing. And I'm looking at him and I'm like, I should let you fucking. I should let you hang out to dry right now. I should let you fucking rot. You, you, I know you don't have this money. I know this is a huge mistake. I know you're fucking around and I know you're playing with fire, but it's for a
Starting point is 01:04:36 good cause. So three for here, we'll play along, you know, and rate three 25 and then did it. But that son of a bitch is lucky. If this were not for a good cause, if this were not for a really good reason, I'm like, I should let you, that kid's, that kid's a hero really. You know, and then of course it's like, what would you have done? I'm like, and I'm like, I, you know, like I get the black and I'm like, what would you have done if I called you on that shit?
Starting point is 01:05:06 And he's like, Oh, I don't, I don't know, man. No plan, no plan whatsoever. Just saw a bit and went for it. No foresight. We all, we all know what the real answer to those situations is. It's a, it's a, it's a fault foolproof tactic that works in almost every scenario. And that's just run away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah. Basically. Like people, like as you, as you become an adult, like the, the ability to run away, it feels like it's left you, right? Because it's such a childish thing to do. But if you're at a convention or an auction and you go, I want that. And they go, okay. And you don't just run, just literally turn on your heel and just run.
Starting point is 01:05:48 What are they going to do? Are they going to chase you? No one's going to chase you. Yeah. No, no, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't roast him, but I, I should have let him burn. I should have done it. Um, anyway, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:05 So there's going to be a couple of videos popping up, uh, uh, take a look over at woolly versus. Oh, and, uh, I mean, I always turn on the TV to see what's going on and just leave it on like adult swim or whatever. Um, this time around again, just the, like, you know, can you know that TV's dead when like channels have three or four shows just in block programming for the entire day? And that's it.
Starting point is 01:06:31 That's the whole, that's all TV is now. Hey, do you want to watch Teen Titans? Go motherfucker. You want to watch Rick and Morty, uh, which also has custom commercials that are like Rick and Morty versions of commercials that only air during that block. I think the funniest thing is that the last time I was in a hotel, I couldn't figure out what to watch. And I was scrolling through and I was like, Oh, look, that's, uh, that's the
Starting point is 01:06:54 lady who played Lieutenant Van Buren in the law and order, but she's, she's working at some kind of hospital now. Okay. I want, what's this called Chicago hospital? So I watched an episode of that Chicago hospital and they're like, I wonder what else is on. And the answer is apparently Chicago hospital. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God damn every channel. Oh yeah. It replaced law and order as the procedural that is just on everything. If you, if you feel like, if you're a fan of impractical jokers, guess what? True TV has you covered 20 hours a day out of 24, you are going to get as much
Starting point is 01:07:31 impractical jokers as you could ever want. Um, uh, more than enough Sal for everybody. But, uh, then there was primal, which came on and, uh, I actually was like, Oh, fuck, I heard primals really good now. So I like, let me, let me change that. So I didn't, I didn't watch, but I want to get back and watch more primal. Cause like, yeah, apparently the latest season has been fucking wild. Um, so yeah, dude, it's in the caveman time.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Yes. Exactly. Um, gonna, gonna get back to that. Um, but yes, uh, check out, uh, you know, Willie versus we got, uh, we got mass effect continuing. We got these, these special events coming out. Um, Silent Hill three, uh, a new LP of course will be starting next week. To, uh, take the spot.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And then, um, we also are going to be, yeah, so we're going to be coming back around to the, uh, the, our next dignity stream as well. Uh, I'll, I'll make an announcement on Twitter, but right this Friday. Uh, let me see. Not this one. I think we're going to do it next Friday. Um, probably going to do the first Friday. Of each month, uh, and maybe one in the middle of that as well.
Starting point is 01:08:57 So I think we're going to do, yeah, at least one a month, maybe two is how we're going to go about it, probably due to, because Hey, guess what? Uh, it went well. People like it and it's good. So it would be stupid to, to not do that more often. Uh, Hey, Willie, how about you fucking fight your, uh, stupid instincts to just like kick success in the balls and actually just take it and run with it for once you idiot, you fool, you fucking moron.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Holy, who are you talking to that talks to you in this manner? Uh, just anyway, so you don't worry about it. Is he you that talks to you in this manner? It's like, we had, we do it. It was a really fun time. It was a really good stream. Lots of good shit came out of it. Everything's good and like the bit and all that.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And I'm like, yeah, that's pretty solid. Guess we're maybe do that once a month. Yeah. Yo, it's, it's like, I've, I've been doing it once a week and like, even then I'm like, like, I'm, I'm looking around. I'm like, huh, I wonder what, uh, people who do this content, how often they do it? Oh, six days a week. Every single fucking day.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Right. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't, mm, I don't think I could do that. No, but essentially, I would actually hate that.
Starting point is 01:10:17 No, what I'm probably going to end up doing is like, the thing is, I can't, if I do it and I do get into fighting games the next day, I'm burnt out. Uh, it's a six day week at that point. Um, I can't, I don't want to do six day weeks, uh, like all the time. So I'm going to pick one or the other and then whatever is happening. If it's a get into fighting games, then we will, then it won't be dignity or it will or whatever, you know? So, um, that's, see, that's probably how we do it.
Starting point is 01:10:45 That's how it is. That's how it is. Get out. Get out. Yeah. Get the fuck out. No, there's some good fighting game news this weekend. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to fucking, there is.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah. Um, so yeah, by the way, I want to, I want to say, I, me joking about get it out of fighting games. I'm just routinely surprised at the look that hits your face every time I say, it's, it looks like I am cutting you. It looks like you're being actively stabbed. No, it's, it's just, it's like, it's a, it's a battle. It's a battle.
Starting point is 01:11:23 And I'm, I'm, I'm a fight it till the day I die. Um, but I'm also, I'm also going to use that for something. And I'm, I'm, I'm thinking about what, but, uh, but that being said, though, if you want some, yeah, there's some, uh, we do some good puts in that fucking, uh, that stupid wrestling thing that are fun. Uh, anyway, so we're going to be, uh, doing all that. And then of course, over on woolly versus the algorithm, if you haven't checked it out yet, um, that will be where, uh, a lot of the dignity content is
Starting point is 01:11:56 going to go. Uh, so, uh, the latest, you got to fucking don't coupon to top 10 betrayals. You got the vacation travel guide to Zozo, some real good shit popping up over there. So, uh, do, do, do check it out. Um, yeah, I'll see if the rest for the news, uh, what's going on. All right. I don't know what, like it feels like the last podcast was like four weeks ago
Starting point is 01:12:27 because I'm like looking at the amount of shit that I went through in that time period and it's way higher than normal. Okay. Straight up, I went through and just beat Arkham asylum, like straight through, uh, for the first time since like 2011. How about those fucking bosses? So it makes, so Arkham asylum is one of those games that it's so similar to its sequels that you think parts of the sequels are in it.
Starting point is 01:12:56 So like youth, I thought when I think of the way Arkham asylum's combat works, I think of Arkham city. So when I go back to Arkham asylum, I keep going, why can't I do this? Why can't I move this far? Why can't I, right? What is that? Was that just added later? And the answer is yes.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Uh, that game's cool. What's really weird with both Arkham asylum and city that I started playing afterwards is that I hit the 50% mark in those games and my memory goes from, uh, yeah, I remember this. Yeah. I remember this part cool to what is this? You go where now? Uh, what?
Starting point is 01:13:42 Like I was, I was, I was getting, I was getting to the halfway point in Arkham city and going, Oh, cool. We're about to beat the game. And everyone's like, no, you're not. You're at the halfway point. I'm like, but my memory stops at the halfway point. Are you, so you blend, then you blend the rest into the sequel. No, it's, it happened to both separately.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Like in Arkham asylum, I 100% completely forgot about all the crazy dudes and plant monsters on the island and how like, I, like when I think of all my, ooh, Arkham asylum, I think of my memories of like the first third of the game when you're moving around and you're doing Batman stuff and you're getting the grapple hook and you're like, wow. Um, I mean, the quote unquote overworld is super tiny. It's like two areas, maybe three, really small, um, but you have to trudge through them a couple of times.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Yeah. Cities is also fairly small, but city does not do, the city does not fill its, its world with plant projectile freaks. I don't know. Oh man. Man. Like going through them and just feeling that seventh gen are, are boss fights over with, can we finally move on from boss fights, energy of going
Starting point is 01:15:09 through like some of the absolute shittiest boss fights in otherwise good games, asylum's boss fights are uniquely god damn awful. They are wild. Like what was with that era of like, I guess just like Western games, not understanding the concept of like using the mechanics in an interesting way to fight it was like, I just like every version, every, because there was the Banes and when it wasn't the Banes, it was the, the, the, the plant fucking the poison Ivy thing.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Yeah. And, and like you roll, you can roll mass effect one and two into that era of like, Oh, a boss fight. Oh, you mean like a big enemy to just, that has three more bars of health. Shoot more, shoot, shoot more. Um, but everyone keeps saying, everyone keeps saying that they figure it out later in later games and that you see some better ones. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:12 I think about, about the halfway point in Arkham city, they finally realize how to make a good boss and that game has like two or three good bosses. But yeah, those games are great. Uh, Arkham asylum, aged pretty poorly overall, the second half of it anyway, kind of bum me out. Uh, Willie, have you kept up with ultra kill? Uh, no, except I know chapter twos out. Um, I know Giannis in it and I know, um, there's a crazy, maybe user
Starting point is 01:16:44 created Minecraft level or something like that. So, so the secret levels in ultra kill are all different games. There's a crash bandicoot one. There's one that's the witness stuff like that. Um, what's the last stuff that you did in ultra kill? I fought, um, I guess you beat V one. Yeah. I was going to beat V two and Gabriel was it?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Or yeah, you beat Gabriel. Yeah. I think I believe so. Okay. Um, they've got new weapons. They've got new arms. Uh, we're in it. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Uh, you, you, yeah, we're in it. What? Do you not know that? What? No. Okay. So, uh, do you want me to tell you more about that? Um, is it cool?
Starting point is 01:17:45 It's, it's extremely cool. Uh, um, yeah. Uh, well, tell me a bit about it. Okay. So, what, uh, so you, me, Matt Vinnie and two other guys who I don't recognize them and I feel bad for, um, appear as skeletons in a secret room day, uh, in which, uh, you and I are cramped into the same. It's Markiplier.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Okay. Uh, you and I are cramped into one coffin in which you are normal size with your hat and dreads, your green hat. Uh, and I am a tiny baby skeleton. Oh, wait. I think I did see that a foot tall. Oh, no, did see that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Wait. No, I think that was already, yeah, in act one. I think I did see that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Yes. Um, correct. Yeah. Yeah. In addition, if you pull Matt's skull off a thing and put it into, uh, a pedestal, a confused sounding Mandalore shows up to fight you with druid powers like his goddamn mystery of the druids video. It's, it's real inside.
Starting point is 01:19:00 It's, it's real, real weird and inside. Okay. It's literally like firing owls at you and Mandalore's audio sounds. It sounds like he wasn't told what it was going to be for because it's a boss fight in which the, the character is going, okay, so are we going to kill him? Like it's, it's fucking strange. Okay. Um, but on top of that,
Starting point is 01:19:34 you get to, your gameplay is so fun that you get to do whatever the fuck you want with a game like that, man. Yeah. Uh, on top of that, which is really cool, even if I am going to be a tiny baby skeleton, uh, Shammy, Shammy is the other guy that part of that boss fight. I'm not familiar with them, unfortunately. Um, the whole second act is out, which, um, it includes, okay. Well, you know how it's Devil May Quake?
Starting point is 01:20:04 Yes. Right. If you were making a Devil May Quake shooter and you had, say, a parry and you had, uh, you know, the ability to do all sorts of gunslinger moves, is there a specific arm based move that you would want out of the Devil May Cry catalog added as a permanent power up? Uh, an ultra kill? Yeah, I think a buster would be pretty fucking snick sick.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Um, I think snatch would be, yeah, that would be awesome as part of your basic move set, wouldn't it? Oh, okay. Okay. Let's go. And then building levels around the assumption that you have it, um, it's that, that game, it's, it's got two thirds of its current content out. The, the, the second act also adds a new weapon.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Um, and it's just so goddamn great. Like it just from its feel to its level design, to its enemies, to all the bosses are incredible. Mm hmm. Um, and it has my favorite version of doom or first person shooter secrets in a level ever because you get to the end. And first of all, it tells you what the, there's five orbs to find, which is, you know, climb up here in a weird spot or go through the waterfall.
Starting point is 01:21:46 You know, that, those little secret collectibles, but every mission has the kill one enemy, beat the level while killing one enemy. Finish the level in 10 seconds. Don't fight this boss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah. Don't fight and occasionally fight the secret encounter, but you know, a game is sick when like you're, you're doing things with the, you get a weapon and you see it's alt fire or something and you're like, Oh, this is cheating. I feel like I'm cheating right now in the game. It's like, no, that's as intended. I think, I think the, I think what might be the most in its own aesthetic moment in ultra kill is that you do eventually find a power up in the second act that
Starting point is 01:22:33 doubles your guns. So if you've got, yeah, it's temporary. It's like room base. It's like a minute or two, but that's like, you want more than enough. You want to ricochet pistols. Fuck. You want to nail guns to shotguns, double punch kills it. What kills it is that you can also find a spot in which you can find a second and
Starting point is 01:22:58 third version of that power up in which you have the two guns, but then shows up on the right and, and you can, and you can still use the punch and the punch comes out from underneath on the left. Fuck yeah. Yeah. It's shut up. Who cares? You just have, you just shut up, shut up, shut up.
Starting point is 01:23:27 That's great. I, I'm, I am, it's great. I'm preemptively jealous of the person who's in the future going to get to play all acts of this game for the first time in a row. Yeah. Well, the thing is, I, well, I, I went through it like a shooter, right? I just went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then I'm seeing footage of boss fights that I didn't do.
Starting point is 01:23:54 And I'm like, where, how do I get to this, uh, this boss? And the answer is find all the secrets in here or these part of this secret level or, so I remember, I remember in act one, there was the pit that you fall into and then you can just, yeah, there's a whole like branch like, like going through it and then like looking up, like, oh, how many secrets are in here? And finding out that there is a enormous amount of optional content on top of that. Like this, ooh, ooh, new bloods output is so like, it's, it's boomer shooting of like, oh man, remember Quake, remember, you know, this and it's like, but I look back on
Starting point is 01:24:37 those games, it's like, I think dusk is better than Quake. Like, I know some people are going to want to stab me for that. Well, but like, I genuinely think dusk is better than Quake. If, if something is built on the shoulders of another thing and then just like improves things, it's, it's, you can say that it's Quake is a classic for what it represents and what it established more so than I guess, I think a mid evil is better than heretic or Hexen. Um, but where ultra kill is different is that I, it's not, it is, it is genuinely
Starting point is 01:25:13 like a, it's a stylish action first person shooter, probably the real first of its kind. It has that goddamn style meter in the upper right the whole time. And it's, it's just goddamn great. It's so good. Is the, is the second act comparable in length? It's complete. Yeah, it's the same length.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Okay. So the three layer, uh, uh, I think it's a little shorter because it's two full layers and then a, a layer that is one that's two levels long instead of four levels long, but, uh, it has just as much secret shit and it has a weapon that I didn't get a secret fancy weapon that I didn't get, uh, because it's, it's hidden behind a mandatory replay of a boss level. Uh, yeah. No, that game's great.
Starting point is 01:26:11 That game's great. And I, and I fully expect the third act to come out and it to be air quotes done, but then have a bunch of shit added to it in secret or behind the scenes. Um, which reminds me, you know how vampire survivors is almost done? Sure. Yeah. That game's going to get a story mode in 1.0. Um, you know what?
Starting point is 01:26:42 Okay. No, I laugh, but then I think about the narrative content that's already kind of there a little bit and you can see the desire to like, you can, to have more of that, like, you know, it does a very light amount of narrative, but you can tell that the creator has some of that in them and kind of wants more that that kind of checks out. You want to run a wild guess as to who is going to be writing the story mode for vampire survivors?
Starting point is 01:27:20 That's right. It's, it's friend of the show and good video maker, James Stephanie Sterling. Wow. Wow. Fuck yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Let's do it. Let's fucking do it. Yeah. It's like either that or like, yeah, we contacted some legendary creator in Japan and like, just paid for a beer and got this out of them. Turn up. Wow. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Uh, yeah. Ultra kill thumbs up. Thumbs up. And also I'm going to reiterate, you know, I already talked about it. Yeah. Gloomwood's incredible. Gloomwood is also shaping up to be just as good as what you think the old thief games were like.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Uh, let's see. What else? Ultra kill, ultra kill, Arkham city. Oh, right before the stream. So I was planning to stream Proteus earlier today before the stream, but I couldn't because the stupid, the Twitch thing, bro. So instead I decided to hop on the new Overwatch game. Um, it has a weird name though.
Starting point is 01:28:31 It's called Gundam evolution. Have you seen the new Overwatch game called Gundam evolution? I did watch a trailer for it and, uh, yeah, yeah. Um, that is a clone. That is an Overwatch clone. The, like down to the QER is in the same exact spot, font, and shape on the screen. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Like that, that is, that is Overwatch, but with a Gundam, um, it is really jank, but it's also really good. And the abilities they're doing are of like our signature abilities for each suit. They're, they're appropriate. Yeah. So you get Gundam 76 and he's got a decent long range rifle and he can put the shield up 79. A 79, my mistake.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Yeah. Uh, you want Zach or do you want a dip? You want a Zaku too, or do you want the, a different suit Zaku to melee where you've got the ax out? Mm hmm. Uh, Barbados is part of the default roster and is taking up the Reinhardt, Reinhardt. Yep.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Big melee. That makes sense. Gun tank is in there taking up the Diva slot. Um, yeah, no, it's, it's literally just Overwatch, um, and monetized out all to hell if you want your different skins for your unicorn or, or what have you. Um, but it's pretty good. It's also not stable and significantly jank. It, it needs, it needs time.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Okay. It definitely needs time, but I mean, I like myself a Gundam, but I wouldn't call myself like a huge Gundam Mark for people that are Gundam Marks. This thing is like, I'm loading into matches and people have their player icon set to like Sayla in front of like a burning sky. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just like, okay.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Can, can you guys, can it, can someone confirm whether or not you can do a jet stream attack? Can you fucking, you jump on, you get three, you, you squat up and then you and your buddies, you get the third person to jump on your shoulder and then you just fucking charge into battle. I don't think that's in there. No, no jet stream. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Well, it has a really, it has a very wide selection from different, uh, different, uh, series to start. Like I was pretty surprised to see like, like it's not even necessarily like the hero units from each particular show. Okay. Yeah. They're just grabbing them here. Well, that's, that's better for variety.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Absolutely. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Okay. Uh, yeah. No, game's cool, man. Uh, and I, and I didn't watch cyberpunk edge runners, which I really strongly
Starting point is 01:31:33 should, I was planning to do that while away. I was hoping like I was like in the airport or something, but I didn't get around to it, unfortunately. Um, yeah. That being said, though, I was going to say like, uh, you, did you play, uh, X versus M bond X versus M bond? I don't know what that is. Uh, Gundam extreme versus maxi boost on.
Starting point is 01:31:56 No, I did not, I don't know. I did not play that. Okay. Well, like if they had to just go through that list, which is like every suit you would want and every side suit and like all the specials they, they that you could, you can imagine, you can just pick from a giant list and go like, Oh yeah, this grouping here would make a perfect team shooter. You know, and then like for, um, like there's modes, like push and capture the
Starting point is 01:32:24 flag and point capture and shit like that. So like, yeah, you could just kind of like select from that and pair it down. I imagine it's what they did. Uh, yeah. Also it's free. So jank or not, it's, it's free to play slash try. Uh, the biggest issue is stability, like losing, um, losing, like, like just getting dropped from your match.
Starting point is 01:32:52 And if you get dropped from your match outside your control enough times, it'll like temporarily ban you because it thinks you're, you're, you're rage quitting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that's great. Uh, I'm going to be doing, uh, I'm going to be doing my react garbage stream tomorrow night.
Starting point is 01:33:08 So if you want to check that out, go to on a twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at, and I'll figure out something for next week, but I mean, you'll have next podcast. Dude, this is a wildly late podcast compared to the week. Uh, okay. Gundam evolution. I was just looking at the roster, grab a GM GM sniper. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Get your dog in there. It's got a bunch of, I wouldn't, I wouldn't call them weirdos, but it's definitely not the star studded roster that I would have expected. Would turn a be like tracer? No, turn a could be, turn a could be, um, um, death reigns from above. Turn a has a grab move where they grab you and throw you down. Okay. Turn a is a grappler.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Uh, yeah. Interesting. Like it's, it's, it's a weird game. It's cool. Open up a tab over here. Cool. All right. Hey, you want to take five minutes to take a piss?
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Starting point is 01:42:27 Uh, I know I did, I definitely enjoyed, uh, more than a couple of and yes, uh, when my wife made them, I was like, damn, I made such a good meal. That's awesome. You did such a good job. Well, you, you killed it. I felt real proud. You went to the website and you clicked a couple of easy buttons and then it's like you're a genius.
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Starting point is 01:43:38 getting 65% off plus free shipping. Thank you. Hello, fresh. Thanks. Hello, fresh. Oh, okay, so in the news, the news, nothing happened. Actually, that's a lie. Uh, Pat, a lot of stuff happened over this week.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Oh, what? Get out of town. Um, not all you did actually literally get out of town. I did. I did. And I made it back. I made it back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:14 No, I'm here and I caught wind of a couple of things going down. Uh, I suppose like, uh, top of the top of the pile is the, I mean, there was winds of this beforehand, but excuse me, the, the confirmation about Twitch changing their revenue share for, um, partners. Um, so the, uh, the split from affiliate to partner goes 70 30. Um, and they're dropping that down to 50 50 and, um, lots of people, uh, obviously find in more and more reasons to look over at YouTube streaming. Um, and I, I think we talked about how like the first time they were
Starting point is 01:45:00 mentioning this plan a while ago, they were also removing the simultaneous broadcast clause. So they're almost like, yeah, not to any of the platforms you would actually want to simultaneously broadcast to, yeah, you know, but the idea of almost like a, Hey, we know, uh, so here, do this instead kind of thing. Um, yeah, that's, that's the direction they're going with. I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 01:45:26 It's not, I, I, I don't find it like that shocking at all that, you know, they, they roll back, uh, that kind of move and that they're going in a direction that's like, actually we want a bigger cut. It's like, yeah, this is what, this is, this is what's to be expected of these streaming platforms, you know? So I'm totally unshocked about how Twitch would want a bigger cut. They've wanted a bigger cut for a while. Um, I'm not, well, I wouldn't say I'm surprised by any of this.
Starting point is 01:45:52 What I am is annoyed at the language used. Well, you see, we thought that the 50 50 split was, we invented that because it, to symbolize that we're all in this together. Like, no, you did 50 50 because you're the market leader and you could get away with it. Like that's why just, just like really just announce it and then just post a, a, a gif of Tony Soprano skimming off the top, just taking a couple of extra bills and then call it a day.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Like the other thing, the other thing that's really smart is they made sure to, uh, categorize it as well. Don't worry. This will only affect people's subscription revenue over $100,000 USD, which is perfectly capitulated to make sure that you don't feel too bad about it, but to the people that are affected by it, primarily, they're making way more than a hundred K USD off of those subs, right? And I can see people like, I'm not, you know, I'm low to name names
Starting point is 01:47:00 because I'm not going to speak for anybody like somebody like as big as Pokemon, right? She's definitely making more than a hundred K off of subs. Like YouTube now offers a substantially better cut. I would not be surprised to see the super bigs just jump straight over to YouTube. It's been, it's been discussed quite a bit in huge groups as of next June. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:28 I, I, I mean, anyway, whatever it's like, exactly. Like I, it's, like I said, it's not a surprising thing. I'm not going to like, um, um, sit here and go on, you know, rants about like large amounts of money, but ultimately the, uh, the one thing with YouTube is just how does that stream archive, when it sits on your channel affect, you know, the, how the algorithm looks at like your, your, your videos, you have that stream, that channel for stream, for other channel, you create, exactly.
Starting point is 01:48:03 You create the probably the dedicated purpose. Yeah. Um, cause they don't seem to like the mix too much. Uh, yeah, I have seen that there's a good comment over here, which is too bad YouTube is fucking garbage at finding streams. I have, uh, good news slash bad news for everyone. Everything is trash for finding anything. Um, I, I use the Twitch search function for the first time in like multiple
Starting point is 01:48:30 weeks the other day, and it was like, how the fuck do you even find the fucking channel you're looking for? Unless you're looking for the specific one with the, the name, like, I can't even sort it by game. It's just like, you, you want to look at this. No, I did notice that, um, any time a channel was live, uh, that I'm subscribed to, it tends to pop up right at the, at the top of the sub list. So they do give that live emphasis.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Um, yeah, but yeah, I definitely don't have enough info on like how the, the archive is treated afterwards. You know, but yeah, if, if the super huge Twitch streamers are looking at YouTube and seeing a literal 20% bump or retaining that 20% like they're all, they're all going to go over. So YouTube is probably having a great day. Yeah. Now, if I understand correctly too, like the systems don't work identically in
Starting point is 01:49:27 that like, um, without, you know, like, like Twitch has like bits and, and donation messages and, and, um, sub messages and YouTube more so is about like super chats and things like that. So, yeah, you know, um, so it's a little different, but, um, what's interesting, of course, is going hand in hand with that, uh, getting those Akasupas, uh, going hand in hand with that. Twitch news was the announcement that, um, you know what? Actually, I'm not going to roll past that.
Starting point is 01:49:59 What the fuck are you talking about? Okay. Uh, uh, it's a, it's a fucking Vtuber thing. Okay. Because Akka means red and super means super chat and a $100 super chat is red. So an Akasupa is a super. Uh, damn. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:26 All right. Sure. Yeah. All right. Um, do the English VTubers say that as well? I don't know. Are the responding to the trash they send to my watch later list. The EN VTubers, you guys are using that too.
Starting point is 01:50:41 That's, that's funny. That's funny. Akasupa. Okay. Um, well, uh, the, the timing is, is, is quite interesting because parallel YouTube just announced that they're planning to, uh, allow monetization with licensed music and, uh, specific licensed music, specific licensed music. And, um, what's interesting about this is like, it's a pretty positive story
Starting point is 01:51:12 because it's like, you know, letting it's like, Hey, you're not going to get a fucking strike or a takedown. Um, but I don't know, I don't know if it's been mentioned, but this has already been kind of implemented behind the scenes already because sometimes when you upload a thing with a licensed track on it, sometimes there's a ghost. No, that's fine. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:37 It'll say we recognize what you've uploaded, but it's okay. The license holder is okay with it. And then other times it'll say the license holder is not claiming the video, but they're okay with a revenue split. So there'll be times where they'll be like, they're taking this percentage of whatever it is, right? So that has already been there. Uh, so this seems to be just like bringing that existing system to the
Starting point is 01:52:01 forefront, um, and, uh, implementing a, um, proration for when you have multiple tracks. So initially it seems as if like there's the, the 55, 45% a split and then each additional track you use, um, affects the amount. So essentially you can end up splitting as, as many songs as you use into like tiny percentages. Uh, so it obviously isn't your best interest to like, I guess use less rather than more.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Uh, but is this finally the end of the copyright deadlock? Mmm, for you, no, no, but for YouTube, it is an interesting step. The main thing of course is once it rolls out, are you going to get major, uh, record labels on board? Are you going to get major publishers on board? Are you going to get your, your Warner media, you know, Sony BGM, et cetera, on board? Yeah, no, no, they're not, um, and then internationally as well, because
Starting point is 01:53:07 there's the, there's the, uh, each branch, like, um, Sony Brazil, it has a lot. They claim a lot of shit for some reason, more than any other branch. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's, uh, it's an, it's an interesting step in the right direction, certainly. And I think, I think if you can plan for it, um, like, I know people who do like video essays and stuff will do like, you know, a sponsored thing in that video, if you can kind of go like, I'm going to use this music, it's going to be a part of this, and I'm going to put this in, you can kind of at least
Starting point is 01:53:39 anticipate what will happen there, as opposed to just, um, getting a strike at, at fucking worst, you know? Hey, here, here's what I want. Okay. I want YouTube to come out and say, Hey, you can stream GTA five with the radio on. Hmm. That's what I want. Um, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:05 That's. Yeah, that's no, that's, that's a pipe dream. That's a fucking pipe dream, uh, not quite, but they're going to start with individual detection, you know, so, um, it's, it's wild that like my perception and opinion of the Grand Theft auto games changed overnight as soon as I started doing stuff that I had to worry about copyrighted music. Like I went from like, man, those games are great too. I don't, I like kind of resent them.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Well, the, the wildest thing like recently is Guardians of the Galaxy, where it's like the experience of this entire game is linked to the music and we're in a unique position to just like miss out on that they, they sent out paid sponsorships, but then told people to turn the music off. And I'm like, you're paying people to play this game with the music off. What a weirdly bad demonstration. So the streamer mode is, is I believe not, uh, silent, but it has the in-game soundtrack, you know, it just has a, like a score sometimes, sometimes.
Starting point is 01:55:15 But yeah, um, and, and like, of course, yeah, any Tony Hawk game, any Tony Hawk game is like, you can't separate the music from the fucking experience. Um, and I, you know, to be honest, like not just Tony Hawk, like a bunch of like SSX and, and, and, you know, like, yeah, there's a ton of games like that as well, where you need it, man. So, um, anyways, uh, I, I, I like that somebody who is, you know, the license holder can at least sick the fucking guard dogs off, you know, if they choose to, because the initial set up of like, okay, well, step one, we're
Starting point is 01:55:53 going to shoot you. And then step two, we're going to figure out whether or not you were the right target, uh, and then we'll, you know, deal with the rest later, ask questions later, um, is, is, is, is fucked. So that's going to roll out, uh, the one that they say in the future later sometime coming. Um, yeah, we're going to do a thing when, I don't know, I hate that. I'm so sick of that.
Starting point is 01:56:27 And it, it, and I mean, and it may, and it makes sense to considering like trying to like follow the, the, the TikTok way of doing things where a sizable chunk of your content is going to be people hearing the same 15 seconds of the same song, like billions of times, which is who gives a shit? Use whatever, man. I don't know why the rules are so different there. It's fucking weird. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Um, I mean, maybe they won't be for long, but, um, yeah, maybe. Yeah. Like the, the talk just seems like the wild west again. Yes. The obvious thought is like, yeah, maybe China doesn't give a fuck. You know, maybe, but, um, the, I know that they're the, the, it's now run by like a U S company branch or whatever. So, uh, it might not last forever.
Starting point is 01:57:25 The, uh, but yeah, that's, that's YouTube. That's Twitch. Okay. So, so some other stuff, uh, going on over at Blizzard, multiple Overwatch stories. Oh, what? We got stories from about Blizzard. All right.
Starting point is 01:57:42 So step, step one, step one, uh, new Overwatch two accounts will have to unlock old heroes too. Is that so that you have to pay $40 to unlock the characters? Right away. So you can spend the money or you can, uh, yeah. If you want, if you're Blizzard, if your account already has the, the first game, then, you know, whatever you get, uh, you get the access, but if you are a new account, fresh playing Overwatch two for the first time, you'll have access to a
Starting point is 01:58:11 limited set of game modes, heroes, and some other restrictions on board. Uh, and you'll be earning them gradually as a first time user. Hey man. Hey, listen, listen. We talked at length about how Overwatch is a game all about counterpicking. So we're going to make every opportunity possible to make it so that the good characters you want to use as counterpicks are as far away time or money from you as possible.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Uh, this is also completely separate from the battle pass stuff we talked about before, which was heroes that are locked behind battle pass level 55. Um, or yeah, pay the pay or pay the cash right up front, of course. Uh, I like, I like how people who are going and it's like, it's not that big of a deal. Say just play a hundred matches, depending on how often somebody plays a game, a hundred matches can be a really, really long time. I mean, ultimately, ultimately, I think it's just the weirdness of this being a
Starting point is 01:59:15 sequel to an existing thing. So every one of these decisions and steps is just compared to this stupidity of like fucking up what was just a buy the game, play the game situation. Yeah, it was one of those weird buy to play games. Um, well, don't worry, at least when you're playing through those hundred matches, trying to unlock the old characters, you can be guaranteed that it's not toxic anymore. This is a fucking interesting story.
Starting point is 01:59:49 And I'm curious, I'm curious on the, on the, on the vibe here, because here's what's up overwatch to will record everything you say in voice chat and your Blizzard account will require a phone number. And this is being done in the name of fighting toxicity so that I suppose the idea is by requiring a phone number that doesn't allow burner phones or temp numbers or VoIP numbers, it makes it so that you have one identity. And if you can't verify it, then you can't just make a secondary account. And, um, and I'm imagining that the idea of the voice recording is so that you
Starting point is 02:00:33 can do the equivalent of a moderator on a Twitch channel and click a name to see, Hey, what have you been saying? If people are complaining about you over the last month, because they say, did they delete all that voice data after 30 days? It's, it's, it's a fascinating thing because in the pursuit of that, you are literally just like having a massive breach of security and recording people's lives through the microphone. So, um, okay.
Starting point is 02:01:06 So I've been, uh, I used to be way into Blizzard games back in the day and Starcraft two, right? I was never good at Starcraft two, but I followed it very, very clearly. So Battle.net, um, and Blizzard have been trying to get as much data on you as possible for a really long time. They attempted to go through the real ID system for Starcraft two in which your username was going to just be your real name. And, uh, that had blowback because it was like a doxing machine and it was
Starting point is 02:01:46 like a harassment generator. Um, so they eventually folded on that. Um, hardware ID bands have been a thing for a while to band like your Windows account slash motherboard. Um, adding phone verification doesn't do anything. There's ways to get around it. Other games that require having a phone attached to it, people can create like Google phone fucking numbers and get around it.
Starting point is 02:02:21 So I'm seeing someone say that, that the story is as high as hyperbole because, uh, the phone thing is a mandatory two factor implementation. Um, and that the, uh, voice data is on reported players and it's transcribing it to text and deleting the audio. Uh, that's what, that's what I'm seeing here. So, so that's great. Assuming you believe that statement. And so I find it, I find it absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 02:02:50 And it's a situation of like the, the, the company that is currently falling into pieces over being staffed with people that basically had a rape room are saying that they need your phone number and to record your conversations in order to combat toxicity. Like, do I like, we're going to, guys, we're just going to, we're just going to record it and only unreported players. Well, you're going to have to record it on all players because people only get reported at the end of a match.
Starting point is 02:03:27 And then you're going to have to make sure that it's transcribed and all the old stuff is deleted, which I don't trust Blizzard to handle its own internal security with people's voice recordings because I don't. So, um, when I think about the idea of like, okay, how do you, if you're trying to figure out how to address toxicity, right? Um, and your game implements a system where, uh, it detects the words and then moderates them live, right? And then that's not going to account with anyone with a, a non-American
Starting point is 02:04:05 English accent. Well, who the, exactly, right? There's a, speaking a non-American English language, but I'm saying, I'm saying hypothetically in the future when, because, you know, obviously AI shit is going to get, make everything more accurate and better over time and whatever, hypothetically in a world, in a, in a world where you can implement a system that works the same as it does, where you type in something into a text box and it auto moderates it.
Starting point is 02:04:29 If it works the same way live over voice chat, um, then that makes sense. Cause you're essentially just turning the voice chat, um, into the same level of moderation as you would for a text chat. Uh, but I think the extra step of creating the recording is what everyone certainly dubious about. And as you mentioned, they have not had a particularly trustworthy year of a track record, uh, for this type of system. So like if it was a live detection and moderation system that they wanted to
Starting point is 02:05:01 implement for their game, I would understand that, but this is not what this sounds like. I think it's the extra step that I think is the, that sounds like the issue. So much, much like a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about the, uh, Nuzlocke stuff, right? Um, when you're saying, Hey, this thing seems fucked up. And the response is, don't worry. The people who are doing it are assuring you that it's not fucked up.
Starting point is 02:05:28 That is in no way convincing to anyone. Right. Like if Blizzard was like, Hey man, I'm going to need your passport and your information and your phone number. And don't worry, we'll be really cool with it. Promise. And I go, I don't know about that. Them saying, no, don't worry, uh, we're cool with it.
Starting point is 02:05:49 When we've shown to not be cool with it, it's not helpful. It's, it doesn't, it doesn't make anybody feel better. Yeah. So base, so that's it. It's like, if you could achieve that end result and remove the, uh, total loss of your privacy in the process, um, then sure, I won't have a problem with that system, but the way this sounds like it's implemented now. Uh, you, you can't roll that out on people.
Starting point is 02:06:17 Well, you can't say sign the Yula and they agree to it, but, uh, don't do that. That's not cool. In terms of, in terms of recording people in order to use a robot transcription to moderate, let's, let's assume, fine, let's just assume that the system works exactly as described and there's no privacy issues whatsoever. Willie, have you watched YouTube videos with auto captioning on? Not too smart. Is it good?
Starting point is 02:06:48 Not great. Is it good enough to tell the difference between a native Spanish speaker speaking English as their second language and forgetting the word for black in English? It, it fucks up shit like that quite a bit. Um, or if you are filler words in Cantonese, I believe, which also sound like the word for black in the filler word in Cantonese is wild. That is absolutely outright.
Starting point is 02:07:23 Absolutely. So, so, but, but, but, but I will say, um, that system, the quality of that only gets better over time. With like, like detection and, and whatever, like there's, there's whatever YouTube is implementing, whatever Google has. And then there's other, um, uh, voice detection and voice to text things that are private owned versions of it. And the quality will vary and, you know, be better at certain languages
Starting point is 02:07:51 and certain bits and over time that can change quality. So, you know, you can eventually get to a version of it where it, it'll be able to go, Oh, you're speaking this dialect of this language and then these filters will apply. Like it'll, it'll, that will be here very soon. The vocal equivalent of, I don't know. I'm not sure if it was the seribot gentlemen, but it was somebody talking about how Twitch is, um, ban word list is not exhaustive and Twitch
Starting point is 02:08:18 recommends to just ban every, you know, version of a swear word that you see. And they use the, uh, I think they use the N word as an example, but I'm not sure, but they were like, okay, let's assume eight characters, like bonus characters, right? And X's periods, whatever, how many variations can we hit? And it hits like 56 million fucking combinations to that is still legible. Right. Now imagine that with, with spoken word intonation, like a robot's not
Starting point is 02:08:51 going to be able to handle the infinite capacity for human ingenuity and calling people all sorts of shit. Yeah. Um, and, you know, the, the, the, I like it there, there probably might require some sort of like, okay, step one is if it hears something resembling that, then it passes you your account off to a human listener to then review. Yeah, it's a man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Yeah. Fucking right. Live listening on your, on your, on your games to manually review that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, no, here's the, here's the thing, like genuinely, the more I think about it and the more I read about it, the more I talk to people in the industry, there is a genuine solution to toning down the toxicity in your game. And that is don't make a, don't make a game in which the mechanics encourage
Starting point is 02:09:55 people to be toxic as shit. It's like over, you remember how fucked up Overwatch got, like how absolutely like even worse than modern warfare two and it's peak. What do you mean? Okay, let's take League of Legends. Cause I have a very low, uh, uh, uh, I have a very low amount of faith that people will resist the urge to slur. If this is not, that's not what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Yeah. What, what do you, yeah, let's, let's take League of Legends. Now, I know you haven't personally played League of Legends, but League of League is, is everywhere, right? You, you know how it works. It's a 45 minute game. You got five people on the team, right? You pick a character right from the get go.
Starting point is 02:10:41 You're not guaranteed your role. Then you have to counter pick, then you get paired up with randoms who may or may not listen to you. And because of the way the game works and the way the loss penalty, like like the leave penalty is instituted, if you get into a game in which people are shit heads, you're trapped with them unless you want to bomb your account. And also because of the team game aspect and the way the team fights work. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Everybody needs to hit a certain way. It is just built to make you fucking pissed. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, absolutely. Like part and parcel manufactured every part of it to make it fucked up and and toxic. Yeah, but Overwatch is like the shooter equivalent of I have like they're sitting there round in the Cosby room going, guys, we figured it out. We figured out how to make a first person shooter with short games.
Starting point is 02:11:44 The most abjectly fucking infuriating shit in the universe. How? Because we made a counter pick game that you get stuck on roles and you can't change. And then if people drop from your ranked match, you just got to fucking play out the loss because you're fucked until they change that later. Overwatch is made to make people go crazy. So the game design creating anger and frustration in people that like
Starting point is 02:12:15 emphasizes that type of situation. Notwithstanding, I think even in a perfectly harmonious, non frustrating game with voice chat, you're still going to have like instances of toxicity that you'd have to be able to handle. Right. Some people are like legitimately just trolling. Yes, there is also the number one. The number one thing you could ever do to a first person shooter to reduce
Starting point is 02:12:47 toxicity is a feature that almost every single developer has or publisher, rather not developer has fought against hard since like 2004. And that's the ability to run your own server. Do you want to make sure that you actually have a really good experience? Have the ability to ban people from your fucking server. Done. I used to play Counter Strike and Day of Defeat back in an era in which I was a tiny shithead.
Starting point is 02:13:18 And do you know what happened when I was too much of a shithead? I'd get banned from a fucking server and I was gone. It's like I never existed at all. Um, but no, we need your phone number. We need to record your conversations. So it's bullshit. We also talked to a good bit when it when the when Apex launched and the pinging system was also introduced as something that could do wonders for
Starting point is 02:13:47 just absolutely completely reducing the need to ever say anything into a microphone. Yeah, because look, like when you're playing, um, I don't know, Valorant. I don't know anything about Valorant, but let's know, you know, I'll go older. When you're playing Counter Strike 1.6, right? Classic Counter Strike. You know how you tell the guy to rush the point? You fucking hit F on your keyboard and say, rush the point. That's how a good thing.
Starting point is 02:14:12 Yeah. No, a good ping system will make life easier for probably 80 to 90 percent of players. I feel like what I learned from doing competitive overwatch back in the day was that like any team that is voice chatting together and communicating to the maximum will have be sharing more information and thus be more competitive. So there will always be that above the ping system. But in terms of just someone loading and not feeling like a piece of shit needed. Yes, to use voice chat ever.
Starting point is 02:14:47 And that's great. And that's ultimately what you want to do here is just like shave all of that extra shit off and create an experience where someone can just jump in and not even have to bother with it. I like I can't like God, it really like if you got in and played like 10 league games, you would fucking feel it in your chest. Like every single fucking thing about the way that game works is designed to make you lose your mind. It is it's crazy. It's it's mostly by accident, but it feels designed.
Starting point is 02:15:22 It feels like a human being strapped weirdos in a room and was like what method of character select would make you the most angry? Oh, how about this? I want to pick my character and then the guy on the other team goes fuck you. You don't get to play as your favorite character. Now you have 30 seconds to pick a different one. I mean fuck that's the first thing that happens. Like it's it's I do I do understand that that stack of shit and built into the game.
Starting point is 02:15:57 At the same time, there's something as simple as hey, like any fighting game where people don't like the feeling of losing and also have anger issues and have an open mic on, you're going to hear it every time constantly launch killer instinct on the Xbox one where it automatically opened up the mic on the connect when you started fighting by default and you had to like specifically go find a way to turn it off. You're the worst of it. You're completely right. Fighting games have just as much ability to be as fucked up as possible. And it's a good thing that there's no one you actually need to talk to when you're playing a fighting game ever.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Yeah. Like like that's that's the thing. You make team games and then you make everything about being part of that team infuriating. You have matchmaking that groups up shit heads with people who actually want to play and try hard sweaty boys that want to fucking go as hard as they can but suck shit so they bring everyone down. The most toxic people I ever ran into in Overwatch was the very short time I played rank and people were trying to try hard and fucking climb the ladder and were pissed that people had knew like that were like oh what character is this I'll try it cool haha trying to have fun and they lose their mind.
Starting point is 02:17:17 And you know and the funny thing is that like the design in their heads version of like why you would open up the mic in a fighting game like that experience. I only had one. There was one person I played against in K.I. when the hot one the connect mic was on and as we're playing the dude was like oh yo sick that was sick you know or just like got you there you know and it was just like oh yeah OK that was a fun little exchange and at the end it was just like oh yo that was a six set good games man GGs that happened one time and it legitimately was like oh that's a cool person I would be friends with them they're a good sport and we had a fun ranked set out of it. Every single other match was either just the saltiest worst most toxic shit babies crying or just heavy breathing.
Starting point is 02:18:12 You know I got one experience that was the commercial experience they were looking for and if you could make more of that I will say it is fun when somebody is also having a good time and you and you're you know you're both enjoying it and going like nice anti-air or whatever but that ain't going to fucking happen. I have a really somebody I hope somebody said it I'm trying to find up but I can't find somebody had a really good point to make and I'm going to butcher it but you described it perfectly and just like the intended experience. So let's take Overwatch right what's the intended experience for Overwatch how is it designed. OK well I can tell you because people know how Blizzard designs their games. All right so step one LAN LAN is how that game is designed spiritually and culturally and fucking practically it's designed
Starting point is 02:19:10 for LAN. It's designed for the guys in the same room in the office. The maximum distance is from one end of the office to the other end of the office with people who you assume are not going to scream racial slurs at you from across the whole office because you're in the office but now that we know about Blizzard who knows. Regardless LAN right what's the second part of play testing a Blizzard game Lee. It's friends and family. Sure. So again you're you're expanding it outside the office but it's like your your cousins and your brothers and sisters and maybe your dad.
Starting point is 02:19:52 All of which can be assumed to not kind of be psychos especially since they're linked to their relative at work through their account during the play test. Right so everything about the way the game is designed is designed around a bunch of people who are emotionally invested in the success of the game and are ostensibly normal. Right then they go OK great let's put it out into the fucking wild. Every single thing that came up to try and fight toxicity and overwatch such as voice controls or voice line spamming or certain spray types overlapping on each other or all all of it. Or or picking characters in ranks of the other person. All of that was after launch because it wasn't considered what a bunch of psychos the general public public is when they deal with it which is stupid because these are the people who worked on World of Warcraft. They have the biggest shithead Petrie dish that anyone has ever had ever in the history.
Starting point is 02:21:03 There are epidemiologists that worked on covid that studied the fucking wow play play now that's a seasonal event. There's never been more data on people being shitheads but then the game isn't actually designed to deal with any of that and it still isn't. Instead the solution is well what if we just recorded everything you said and then had a robot decide whether or not to get you in trouble and we promise will delete them. It's nonsense it's fucking complete garbage. Yeah I well because I'm just thinking of how like you like you're saying about like the way that's designed. You fast forward to the title screen of any of these games on release on release and it's the big play button which is play against the Internet. The like any time the massive emphasis is like where you're supposed to go into the wild and you know hear the worst of it that's that's that's the expected experience you're going to have onboarding into any one of these games. I don't know if the technology to fix toxicity like I don't know when or where or how that'll come about.
Starting point is 02:22:14 I feel like you can like you said you can do things design wise but at some point it's going to be more that you're going to need more than that you're going to need to do the equivalent of a chat you know servers like you whatever all that stuff that helps to. On a combination of all that can probably create a Swiss cheese effect of like you know reducing the overall shitty experience some person has onboarding onto one of these games. So one of the most interesting things that ever happened was and I wish I knew if somebody's like a big Dota and League of Legends had DM me because I need some some background in history to talk about that. To find out more but the most interesting thing I ever saw about toxicity was valve talking about Dota and they were like wow we think Dota is the best game ever but fuck this a shithole shithole to play in and so they were going like can we design around this are there. Not technical solutions but are there literal like this toggle this toggle that whatever that will help it and the number one thing they got this right right away the ability. To use voice chat by default going from on to off yeah yeah represented the most enormous change in the feel of the game yeah ever yeah that's it just make it so that you have to go into the options and turn the microphone. Instead of it being on by default like all of a sudden the people that are playing and losing their fucking mind screaming well there might probably isn't on. Thing is though is that like you know in that hypothetical that you know we're just talking about where it's like you you have all these systems in place or whatever the bottom line will always come down to yeah but whether it's text or voice or.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Message board or Reddit or Twitter someone can just type and. Capital and oh yeah and press enter or just say and. And like that on its own is just you can't you can't nerf that. That's hey that is what it is for ever you want to you want to like finds a way. You want to talk about toxicity in games technologically let's talk about modern warfare to coming out soon do you know what modern warfare to has decided to add to the game. What it's big multiplayer feature for communication is. Proximity chat. Automatically as you get close to somebody okay yes okay so that you can hear them coming around the talk in their comms.
Starting point is 02:25:17 There's a tick tock I will try and find it will be for you because I realize that you would get a kick out of it. It's a black eye plan I think it was war zone but I'm not sure it might have been modern warfare to his beta or modern warfare one. And he's running the n word modern warfare speed run I saw that. Yes yes and it is any world percent he he gets it down to sub one yes yep yep yep on entering a lobby by just saying the phrase I'm black yep yep. Sup guys hey he's he's putting BLM in his like he starts off by doing quick kills at the beginning of the match and he's like what if I put BLM in like. How could we speed this up yes absolutely. Like at the end of the day the fact that it's people that are not standing next to you and can't get punched in the mouth for being rude assholes is going to be a serious detriment. But there are ways to design around it without me having to give you my phone number and letting you record all my conversations.
Starting point is 02:26:23 Like this overwatch news at the end of the day might as well just be a big tagline that says hey use discord. Does this ain't it that's not that's not the system to do it. Find another way. Anyways so that was only the second story of. Okay hold up I gotta take the dog out. All right there's more there's more there's more overwatch. All right BRB. All right one more.
Starting point is 02:27:00 On the blizzard train. Goodie. And you're going to need to break this one down because it looks fairly complicated. I can do that. I have the data. Says here that we now know the ethnicity tier list. From the diversity scores that blizzard was using from the story so about a month or two ago. So I'm going to take this away.
Starting point is 02:27:30 I hope that's all right with you woolly. So first of all big shout outs to melee master 500 from the two best friends play subreddit. So this is a exclusive this is a current exclusive world premiere art from our subreddit because somebody there found the time so the long and short of it is that we all saw the diversity chart stuff from blizzard a while ago and those are coming out of GDC talks and you know we got the the panel for like I think was far out. No. Was that the old gun lady. Farrah. Anna. We saw Anna stats right.
Starting point is 02:28:12 And so we're like OK what the hell is Winston what's Bastion whatever. So they dug deeper and they found a paper in which they were able to find a big old picture. That had every single base overwatch character on it. And the data was like like there's like four little charts associated with it and it's got all sorts of colored graphs with body type diversity ethnic diversity cultural diversity etc. And by going through painstakingly and then mapping it to the heroes in question they were able to figure out. With a certain margin of error of course what races disabilities genders cultures countries of origin etc. Ranked at what levels according to blizzards internal metrics. So there is a no shit tier list that they compiled and provided.
Starting point is 02:29:23 Which has a lot of fascinating fucking and inconsistent data. It's great. And this is coming from a like a document that had the full list. This is coming from visualizing diversity a character design tool for creative reflection the GDC talk. Jacobson at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology OK. Which goes over and describes it and has the thing in question. Excuse me just one second. OK I see.
Starting point is 02:30:00 So there was the there was the blog post which introduced the story. There was the GDC talk which like was here's the academic paper the actual paper. Yes the research paper. OK. What do we get. Well first of all remember how weird it was that soldiers 76 was suddenly bisexual. Well he's not in the original drafts of the game. So remember when it was like it really feels like blizzard is like making characters more representative or more diverse as a smoke screen.
Starting point is 02:30:38 This definitely leads to that conclusion. I feel like I need my lab coat and glasses as I'm as I'm scrolling through. But let's let's just do it. So again these are the the the information compiled by Melee Master 500 posted a couple hours ago. So ethnicity. Arisa and Zenyatta max it out. I believe that's because they're from the fictional omnics country in the game. That makes sense.
Starting point is 02:31:09 So they're an S tier. Well who's in a tier for ethnicity. Koreans Japanese people Chinese folk and Arabs. Well who's in B Caucasian European Australian Russian and Mexicans. What's in F. British and American Caucasians. And weirdly enough the monkey man and the robot tank are also F for ethnicity. OK OK OK White European White Australian White Russian B three points.
Starting point is 02:31:54 White American British American F zero points got it. So already it's getting really interesting because one fictional ethnicities are more diverse than real ones. Yes naturally of course. The whites have been separated according to how familiar the team is with them. Right being Brits and Americans and robot and monkey person fail despite those being not common ethnicities. Robot is not a common ethnicity which is extra weird because the other two robots max out the scale. So that's weird. So the initial theory of points are entirely based on distance from Irvine California is 100% confirmed.
Starting point is 02:32:49 Yeah OK well let's let's get into nationality. Now this is I mean it's not ethnicity. It's your country of origin. Right this has my favorite result in the whole thing because it's distance from Starcraft. S for nationality Japan China Sweden Nigeria Australia India France Russia and the Zenyatta's origin which they're not sure on. So no real no real consistency here because you have like Sweden and Australia. Australia is an S rank for weirdo nationality. OK but what's wild is that is that sitting down at A tier below all of them below every other Asian country at B is Korea.
Starting point is 02:33:50 Because of Starcraft because Koreans are more familiar to people at Blizzard. Oh yeah you know we know a bunch of you guys. That ain't special. Down at B you have Mexico. That doesn't have explanation. Egypt was changed throughout greatly increased in later patches initially low lower value. Yeah OK. All right.
Starting point is 02:34:33 Is American. It must have been below B. Right. American British Winston again and Numbanian which is the fictional Omnic City which is wild because being from the fictional Omnic City in Africa in nationality hits a zero. But in ethnicity tops out the scale. But it's it's it's the African city. Right. OK fictional city in Africa.
Starting point is 02:35:02 OK. The gender tier list. There are only two scores. Yes. There's S and F. OK. S contains everything other than men. Yes. And F is men.
Starting point is 02:35:21 Correct. OK. OK. This means that any change to the the ordering is just putting different groups at different rankings. There's only it's like a pass fail. Are men diverse. No. Then there's all the other ones.
Starting point is 02:35:41 Got it. Like that's how I see this being written down. Are they a guy or are they one of the other ones. Yes. And that is worth half the points of being. Let's say. Australian. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:00 The funniest thing is that the two that are listed are non binary and women. Which means that if you're by if you're a binary woman. Or a non binary male you have the same score but a binary woman is the same level of diversity. As a non binary woman which is OK because they're just not a guy. It's it's a mess. It's literally it's literally the guys in the office and the other ones. Yeah. The men.
Starting point is 02:36:32 Yeah. It's the the outlier. Yeah. Correct. Right. Check's out. All right. Check's out.
Starting point is 02:36:40 Sexual orientation. Again. Not heterosexual. Points. Yeah. Yeah. Seven point seven to zero. For not having heterosexual and zero is for heterosexual or maybe the robots because
Starting point is 02:36:58 the robots asexual they hit zero because they're not. OK. Right. I mean the robots. Right. Disability. This is the most confusing by far by far. OK.
Starting point is 02:37:12 At those are big. Those are those are big points. OK. At S with eight points is Torbjorn for robot eye and robot arm significantly disabled. That's a huge huge point. Doomfist has a big robot arm at seven points but Symmetra's autism also classifies her as disabled as having a missing limb. But not having two missing limbs gets even weirder because at B with six points is Genji
Starting point is 02:37:50 who's a full cyborg the entire body having one is more points than having your entire body replaced as a cyborg. OK. C has five points with missing one eye as Anna. Radiation exposure at D with Roadhog and then the most confusing one peg leg and robot arm is an F sorry an E for Junkrat. Junkrat has the least usable limbs of any overwatch character and is being labeled as significantly less disabled than a lady with autism.
Starting point is 02:38:45 But also radiation exposure. He has a peg leg. He has a peg leg. For fuck's sake. Like radiation exposure is four points. Yeah. Unless it's obesity. Is that manifested in any like.
Starting point is 02:39:10 I'm shrugging. I'm shrugging. And I'll get into there near the end. You have body type S rank at 10 points. The highest thing you can get in the whole chart is body type of robot centaur or gorilla. Fuck yeah. Let's go. Those are diverse body types.
Starting point is 02:39:32 Fuck all the cowards. Having a gorilla body or a robot centaur. Hell yeah. Ten points. OK. Let's get A for body type is stout overweight peg leg and muscular women. So fat guys and buff ladies together. Six points.
Starting point is 02:39:55 How buff though. Very buff. Very buff. Like Zarya buff. Yes. Right. OK. At B with three points is.
Starting point is 02:40:09 Is slightly muscular woman or not slim and curvy which is just may. You lose three points for not being buff enough. Yeah. Yeah. OK. And then down it's then down at zero is traditionally sexy curvy female body type and as is the nature with this chart incredibly bizarrely Bastion's robotic tank body is hitting a zero points for body type diversity.
Starting point is 02:40:44 If Bastion had four legs in tank mode that would be a 10. They would be the most bodily diverse but as they have treads and treads are a common body type feature amongst humans. That right. That's a zero. That's a zero. But do you know what it really is too many employees in Irvine have treads. You know what I'm actually thinking the reason why Bastion is hitting zero on all these is
Starting point is 02:41:13 because tanks. We know what a tank is or are more popular games. Yeah. As opposed to a robot like that's it. We've seen it. And then last but not least is age. Are you old as shit. You get 10 points for elderly.
Starting point is 02:41:27 Yep. Are you 18. You get six points. OK. Are you in your young 20s or in your 40s and 50s. You get four points and F for anyone in their 20s and 30s. And again robots but not Zenyatta. Not Zenyatta.
Starting point is 02:41:52 So it radiates outward from like 25 to 30 and the further away you get from that. OK. That's the origin. So with this with this data you can take the most cynical fucking possible approach to any character in Overwatch. You can look at Symmetra who I believe she's from India. Right. But she has a classical slim and curvy body type and her disability is autism.
Starting point is 02:42:27 You it's all right. No it wasn't originally you remember how it became autism. It wasn't there at launch bumps and points. So Symmetra was slim curvy attractive Indian lady and that was it. Oh she missing an arm. Oh she's one arm. OK. So she was probably at the lower level of the of the points but you give her autism with
Starting point is 02:42:50 a tweet. Now she's got seven more points. That's a whole category one. You know what's really surprising is I remember when there was a Twitter discussion about Lucio's art making it seem as if Lucio both of his legs were robotic. Yes it does look like that a bunch of his art. And so that was that was a theory that was spreading quite a bit and then they de-confirmed it and went no no no Lucio has both of his legs.
Starting point is 02:43:18 And I guess like behind the scenes there was about black. Brazil. There was a point balance system that was out of whack. If he had both of his legs missing he would have been way too high. So they had to bring it back down to rebalance the whole system. Absolutely. So no even though it looks like it in the art don't don't don't do that. So a new Overwatch 2 character he was getting way too powerful.
Starting point is 02:43:48 We had to nerf it. We had to bring it back down. OK so I look at so this was this was the most I brought this up when the when the Overwatch 2 stuff happened and I vividly remember OK sojourn is the new Canadian Overwatch 2 character right. She's a black lady from I think Toronto right and I'm and and she is a neck down robot like she is a full cybernetic person right and I'm looking at this character and I'm looking at a character in which if she was not a full blown robot she would
Starting point is 02:44:41 just be a Canadian black lady which fails the criteria. So you need to pick her a full robot. Let me take a look here because I have I seen her. Here I have her wiki open here I'll send it to you because I'm assuming that's a Sojourner truth reference. Oh her yes yes yes yes I did see this right. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So she's got and the robots a little muscular and it's just it's like so well let's take
Starting point is 02:45:15 all of this let's take all of this right all this information and let's fucking talk about Kariko or Kiriko the Genji Ninja healer with her kids in a spirit did you read the goddamn nothing nothing nothing it was fucking hilarious it was like I love playing with my fox spirit and going down and having the dango at the Trine and it it it was like it was written by an algorithm. It's fucking cringe and weeb. What's her score? Oh I don't know.
Starting point is 02:46:04 I thought I thought we were going to get that get to the score. So the only issue here we don't know like the paper only shows off the original batch of yeah okay okay okay because six points for being Japanese five in ethnicity six points yeah so she's already good to go three points for woman we don't know her orientation so there's a seven point deviation and we don't have any we is she has she been exposed to radiation I don't think so okay so then we're going to go with zero here's my favorite part you can look at Kiriko right you can look at that character and you can use this math due to to determine her level of disability and sexual orientation from the stuff you
Starting point is 02:47:03 do know right because she has lots of points for being from Japan I mean so after the initial story the initial blog post like I said and then there was the GDC talk and now you've got the academic paper like it's going to be a matter of months until we just get the original excel file yeah because it seems to be like there's way more uploaded proof of this entire metric system up there before that blog post which was like the tenth step on the way it's it's one of these incredible things where like measure head leaves a paper trail yeah in street fighter you can make a joke about how Brazilians are naturally electric electric yes yes right and Chinese people know how to do dive kicks and right
Starting point is 02:48:01 in Netherrealm black people love wearing yellow they love wearing yellow can't get enough of it elementary color and worded right now and so you look at this and it's a situation where you have this incredibly incredibly number oriented thing that boils down to in overwatch Japanese people can wall jump every I suppose so from Japan and I suppose so can wall jump yeah you just learn it in school well in guilty gear being Japanese is a disease so that is a step up to be fair like confirmed yeah it's right and what's really funny is that I'm sure I'm really sure that somebody at some point really did mean the best for this kind of metric right and while I bring up Brazilians are electric for Capcom as ha ha ha
Starting point is 02:49:03 and cat we know Capcom doesn't use any metric base this is finding this is finding the documents that have a little lightning bolt on on the map in Capcom's offices but at the same time you gotta like you can't at the same time remember like hey let's go look at old concept art for Street Fighter 2 characters and see that Blanca yeah yep yep yep yep right so yeah like we talked about it when they originally broke and like it feels like somebody had a really genuine idea that this would help out and and kind of course correct for the existing the existing culture and what you saw is that all instruments of capitalism even those that are anti capitalist in their nature become subsumed by capitalism in order to fulfill capitalist ends so the
Starting point is 02:50:05 people who made this probably thought the best and then they gave it to their bosses and their bosses realized I can make a sexy lady as long as I give her a robot arm and autism fucking sick I mean I think it's as simple as like you're just you just watched like a horseshoe go down where yeah everyone that was like thinking about that had some really really like long meetings and they and they walked out feeling really good about the numbers they came up with because they argued for those numbers you know they really really thought about how far things were from California and they were like damn that is seven points worth of distance from California and like they've been and it just it just I think you just horseshoe you just horseshoe
Starting point is 02:50:49 completely you know so it we're gonna we're gonna it's the it's the god god it's fine we're gonna see an overwatch character that is just straight up big titty goth gf right mm-hmm just 100% mm-hmm some some dude's fucking wank fuel big titty goth gf and then what you're gonna see is you're gonna you're gonna see that character get revealed and they're gonna be in a wheelchair and somebody behind the scenes is gonna go got it in nobody complain I could beat off look at widowmaker she's just blue she's just a sexy French lady but she's blue blizzard on the street corner going welcome to revish all to everybody to everybody walking by yeah um no it what I was gonna say is just it's that thing where
Starting point is 02:51:54 like you know you've got you've got the like you've got the people that are like yeah what we need to do is create our our cleansed ethno state where there's only people like us right and then right okay and then you've got the people who are like yeah we want to create pure like like there's basically there's like you have your white nationalist and you got your like we want to create a pure black society where we have only black people here and we want to you know like separate and have be our own thing and it's just like yeah they love that they fucking super are down with that idea you could probably like cooperate with yeah you know with your idea of like yeah we want to completely separate from each other
Starting point is 02:52:39 coming from two different sides of it and the end result was the same shit you know it's it's fucking crazy how you can just fly all the way around intent and with your intentions being on one side end up at the exact same fucking place um boy boy is that data not gonna fucking go away anytime soon for blizzard well no because now there's enough that you can break down new characters and you can figure out what the average they're trying to hit is like that's the that's the one piece of data that melee master 500 did not include and it's probably the one that would be the most interesting which is what's the average number is is the attempt what is the baseline get everybody up over 22 30 above 10 right
Starting point is 02:53:36 I mean if worse comes to worse you can always sprinkle a little radiation poisoning and get a nice little four point bump like you don't have to do much for that one the absolute best part about this is visible minorities versus invisible minorities right so being black as visible being gay is not right and the discovery that the invisible minority criteria such as sexual orientation gender identity mental illness and non visual disability can be sprinkled on afterwards like sprinkles on your cake not to your taste garnish what if we just sprinkled a little obsessive component there is going to be a fucking character that looks like it's going to be like some hot lady and have nothing diverse about them at
Starting point is 02:54:34 all and they're going to come out and be like this character has obsessive compulsive disorder and no it's not in any of her voice lines but it's like anyway it's just you have to sit down and decide does being blue make you more worth more or worth less than being black like what does that actually mean you know so you're right I mean we're already at the point where I'm looking at this data and it's like yeah no they looked at soldier 76 and what do we do and then they went online and said he sucked a dick one time yeah I'm not a young man anymore all right Blizzard
Starting point is 02:55:34 solid solid and there needs to be like it's the yeah no the little the little bits like the Korean coming in in between the two groupings are like painfully painfully exposed like the results of that those are the nerve endings being shown to the air the the the nationality chart of Asia Korea white people that have an accent is like oh because Koreans are like white people that have a bigger accent they're not like the other Asians I don't know but they're far we know we know Korea we know that guy put numbers into the chart we work with them a lot we know those guys yeah totes all right incredible work oh Blizzard just I don't want to play their games anymore but I'm still getting tons of
Starting point is 02:56:34 enjoyment yeah no you just you know you pump as new characters come out just pump them in you know like yeah that's enough data to like create the actual website right yes where you just pump the character in and get the the game is generated to spit out the pieces are all there for sure all right couple other things I mean I know it's not gonna you know we're not gonna hit as positive an announcement as the ethnicity tier list but some cool stuff I want to award I want to award Apache I want to award Apache I want to award tier list but some cool stuff I want to award I want to award Apache Apache award to a rumble verse who just put out their first set of patch notes for includes the phrase
Starting point is 02:57:27 degenerate tactic the rumble verse patch for the midseason update has come and they are great more than just a more than just a balanced patch it is there's a bunch of new stuff in the game that changes the game quite drastically and I played it I went and I jumped in I messed around a little bit with the new stuff awesome feels different awesome stuff real fun yeah so for starters they've added a dive kick the rumble verse patch awesome stuff real fun yeah so for starters they've added a dive kick straight out of dive kick press the buttons and you have to go and get right yeah yeah and once you do it's a jump and a kick automatically but if you time it you can do a fast one by mashing
Starting point is 02:58:16 twice or you can press the kick button at the top of the jump and then it'll do a perfect dive kick so fun little element to that they added a hot and a purple tier is Zuna drop and now you can that was super weird that it wasn't there yeah there was good is Zuna dropping great is Zuna drop and that was it and now they have epic is Zuna drop and like you can aim all of them as soon as you grab the person so full control over where you want to drop them they added a drink that fills up a third of your super meter yeah they added golf clubs new kind of weapons so that they made it so that if you miss your super it eats a third of your balls yes so you can't just spam it and hope for the best every time confirm
Starting point is 02:59:09 your super right furthermore popping super landing it and immediately getting super two three hits after that was very abusable we learned that on video when with Esteban we saw like oh you can just do the fast super pop as soon as someone whiffs grab them do big kills and then two maybe three hits later you're back up to full so now it's going to cost you a little bit more as time goes on if you subsequently try to grab more you'll lose more super meter yeah and then yeah so golf has a cool little the golf swing when you taps it's gonna bring up a little like Mario golf meter and there's a perfect spot to hit and when you land that you knock them as far as possible which is like super far actually if you're
Starting point is 02:59:53 crazy far it's like a giant swing distance if you're near and further even if you're near an edge you're gone for sure they added like yeah different tiers of like bats and there's a cricket bat and chair and all that stuff there's a key blade then they added a fucking key blade and the key blade is not just a key blade it does has a full Kingdom Hearts to move so it changes your character into a Kingdom Hearts character essentially you get the strike raid yeah so you get to do a ground combo that launches into an air combo with the key blade you hover you spin you can actually hold B in the air to just fly through the fucking stage with it and drains your stamina but as long as you have stamina
Starting point is 03:00:35 bar you can free fly it's it's nuts it and obviously it breaks after you know doing a full combo with it but I really high durability I was able to do a full what was it like six hits I was able to do like light light launch heavy light and then it breaks in midair and then you can do a grab right after in midair so like you go right into a super or something like that it's nuts fucking full on key blade in the game grabs yes you can now do the default grab is the startup on the default grab is the fastest grab in the game now it's way faster than anything else wow and I would have thought that they should make the grab faster so the idea was kind of like as they and I mean the patch notes are doing a great job of explaining
Starting point is 03:01:33 the reasoning behind everything and it was that like the special grabs were looking the exact same speed as the default grab why would you ever do it what would the incentive be to do that as a dedicated button when you have a special grab so this case it's like because it's faster you know yeah and now there's a there's a there's a play between if there's a whiff or something and you need a grab to come out fast and be more or less guaranteed toss out your default and if you're trying to prepare or mind game somebody to get a bigger grab off that works so they fill two different roles it also massively boosts that upgrade that increases the damage of your default grab like that that one was one of those perks is like but I'm not
Starting point is 03:02:15 going to use the default grab well now you actually are they change the Irish whip to be a different animation so you can tell you know when that is happening and it looks different and it looks different they also they fixed a bunch of like buggy weird interactions with stuff some OTGs that were not intended that you could keep doing they fixed oh when you there's people that will often just bounce on cars forever towards the end of the circle and you could just elbow drop forever and waste time now as soon as you elbow drop onto a bouncing car you flip out you you lose the move right away so you can't do degenerate the degenerate tactic of bouncing super high forever has been has been taken out essentially also they
Starting point is 03:03:00 explained how meditate is way strong in certain final rings which is the ability to it's so yeah sometimes it depends but like in a lot of situations you want to have that perk for a better shot at winning almost every like time most of the times I've won it's been with it for sure but meditated the first game I won I meditated inside a bush and my character was completely inside the yes geometry couldn't see me at all so hiding in bushes is an intended design thing however they've there was a graphic that's supposed to play that shows you leaves shaking that was really hard to see so they made that bigger and now you can actually see a little clue of when someone's hiding in a bush so it wasn't you weren't supposed to be
Starting point is 03:03:48 completely invisible it was intended however now the actual little thing leaves popping out will will give you away a little bit more obviously meditate they said we want it so that yes you can but it's the ability to hide and heal right if you stand still you got a passive heal and they've made it so that now if nobody fights each other in the final ring if no one hits attacks anybody for well before it was every 10 seconds the ring would get smaller so they've made it seven seconds so that means meditate will get a lot smaller a lot faster which it already kind of did in many circumstances and the higher tier championships because the I'm in the higher again in the higher leagues dude the circle closes insanely fast you get to the
Starting point is 03:04:35 tightest size with like 10 15 people almost like it's crazy so that's a smart thing you know and they improved the hot a bunch as well so a really nice overhaul oh last but definitely not least the thing that I've noticed I played a couple games after the update the single biggest change in your day to day is that everything does tons of guard break damage now moves were rebalanced around that too so hundred hand slap is now a dedicated guard breaker it was supposed to be before but now it's emphasized the default combo does like twice or even three times as much stamina damage they're used to not be a very good reason to get the stamina upgrade and now it's incredibly vital because I like you can guard broken in
Starting point is 03:05:26 like a second so they also didn't want people to just stand and block for all neutral play and so this is kind of helping to get rid of that they mentioned it as well also they nerfed tackle and stone cold stunner because those things were just insanely fast and unreactable so they made them a little bit slower and like when you go and then you see the whiff animation it's like oh yeah that's more in line with the other running grabs and stuff you know so so having having those two is like an essential final circle skill I'm thrilled with the state of the game now because when I was playing in the first part of the this chapter I we talked about it I was really frustrated at how effective standing and blocking and then rolling on reaction
Starting point is 03:06:14 to two throws and just turtling non-stop because it really felt like you could regain stamina faster than you would get it spent that is definitely not the case now yeah also you could attack sooner than you could do other actions out of a roll they've standardized it so that you can no longer get an early attack out which made it so that trying to punish someone's rolls sometimes sucked because you know that action had a different rhythm compared to everything else and then a huge change as well is the purple books and moves are now much rarer so before you'd start and it was almost like ignore anything that's not purple oh yeah because you'd get a purple one you'd get one of four or five boxes
Starting point is 03:07:02 exactly and so now they're actually much more rare so you have to work the greens and blues a bit which is lower level stuff the blue which is the medium level poison mist also staggers you but doesn't drop you to the floor so that's going to use the same it's going to have the same usage as the weaker one so that now you can use it to open up for a combo because before it would stagger and then drop which was worse than the weaker version that made it just a stagger really good change list really good stuff good mid and good explanations on all of their decisions fuck yeah good game made better um good job rumble verse hell yeah and then like you go down to the bottom of it and then they get into even further gameplay balance
Starting point is 03:07:50 change discussion with numbers up and and like just full transparency you know talking about the damage on block and damage on stamina and everything like really just like yep we want to tell you what we're thinking and why which you know if you think back to like the the Ki character balance streams that Keats used to do it's like yeah why not just tell people exactly why you're doing things you know it like it makes everyone a better player it feels good to see the reason it's nice yeah it's great to see like hey we changed blocks done and grab timings because Pat's a genius and he said we should do that it was great to see those in the patch notes confirmed they should really call them the Pat notes
Starting point is 03:08:43 the the the keyblade is kind of insane oh my god yep we pushed past it the keyblade is really insane because it actually is a separate character you're fighting it's really weird it feels as if a different character has shown up on the map and like if you can get that from them fucking do it you might not even want to break it because the ability to fly is is nuts you know yeah anyway so that's that's rumbleverse it's obvious that they're going to be putting more silly gimmick weapons that are actually fucking awesome in the game hell yeah and use puns for everything it's the it's the key pipe or whatever it's called yeah it's technically a pipe yeah and the the attack you do with the chair when you're running that's a big burning running
Starting point is 03:09:39 chair attack is called Charging Star of course it is so anyway other patches as well came out so Darkest Dungeon 2 just announced the Alter of Hope I forgot that game existed this is the this is the piecemeal partial release thing you know but again it works it depends if for some games if you're going about it a certain way like we were just talking about Ultra Kill and how Chapter 1 came out and was great and then now there's Act 2 and you take your you do it in this kind of way with Darkest Dungeon you know the the the caravan aside I really did enjoy it so the new thing they've added with the Alter of Hope is the ability to permanently increase your runs over time in a much more rogue-like way you get these consumable items which you'll be able to place into either increasing
Starting point is 03:10:44 your your character making your characters better for a bit making the the items better stage coach you can improve a ton of things and like as you do subsequent runs you build up your torches and as long as you don't die and lose them all you can permanently save those upgrades you also now have you also now have the ability to when you get to an inn you can decide and the campaign here save my torches I'm gonna just call that a good run we did it which is great because I've done runs of Darkest Dungeon 2 where I get to an inn and I'm like I'm barely made it I do not have the strength to make it further than this I kind of would want to just call it you know so this case you get that the torches to use now so you don't lose them if you push on to the
Starting point is 03:11:39 final boss though that's that's you get to keep whatever you made up to that point and then the other thing is the new character which is really just a returning character bounty hunter is in oh cool bounty hunter is kind of like an improved version of how he worked in the first game but really fucking sick system for how he joins the party so because the bounty hunter is you know just freelancing you don't join you don't have him join from the stage coach when you initially create the party you meet him at an inn randomly there's a chance of running into the bounty hunter and if you hire him for a price he'll replace someone on your squad he'll have great stats he'll have great stuff he's joining you temporarily and he's a bounty hunter he's a bounty hunter
Starting point is 03:12:32 he's here to get paid and because he's you know a hire a merc that you're adding to the team he does not give a fuck about bickering and friendship and making buddies or making enemies that's great so the affinity of the party doesn't matter to the bounty hunter because he's there to get paid so good that's perfect really really cool implementation why would he care why would he give a fuck so yeah the altar of hope for Darkest Dungeon 2 looking looking to go check that out waiting for the of course the big the next chapter update for sure but that's a nice halfway and you want to make subsequent runs easier so that you can unlock a lot of those class moves because it takes fucking forever if you're just grinding out one character to all the the memory towers
Starting point is 03:13:27 you know and then yeah just a couple other little announcements there was CEO Taku this weekend where about a couple of fighting game announcements were made one of the big ones Guilty Gear Exord Rev 2 is getting rollback as well as well as Rev 1 surprisingly I did not see that coming because Exord is new enough to kind of be a competitor product to strive yeah so I wouldn't have thought they would like just be like yeah sure fuck it but Arxis is doing it and that's an extremely consumer friendly move to just be like yeah this just came out it's pretty fresh but we figured it out rollback and everything super good does blaze blue haven't yet uh yeah yeah they added it to then they're done BB tag and blaze blue yeah they did it
Starting point is 03:14:22 yeah all right they're done um well not grand blue so you know they're done man they're done they're done yeah so Rev 1 and Rev 2 getting it fucking really cool and now everyone who I I suggest there should be of course you know everyone should be able to get the rollback update on PC of course for the game but there you should have to show proof of your of your DGEN status by screen capping the tweet where you complained about Strive and talked about how legit Exord was as well as the tweet where you complained about Exord uh saying that only accent core was legit if you can provide proof with both of those tweets which we know you tweeted out then you should be allowed to access rollback it is it is the way of the guilty gear player to be upset there is no happiness for them you know proof of proof of salt at old thing uh and new thing
Starting point is 03:15:31 and then proof of loving new thing uh more and in hating even newer thing hand in hand and you get you get the whole world you get everything I think the I think the funniest thing is people who weren't all that into Exord but are like oh finally I get to play a guilty gear game where I don't have to deal with happy chaos and it's like do you think that Exord is going to save you from that nonsense hi my name is Elfelt welcome yeah people are gonna learn people will learn you guilty gear in all directions is just it's not gonna get better guys the further back you go the worse it gets so yeah every everything is coming up guilty gear soon the missing link and then we'll be done we'll be actually done uh DNF is getting some some updates as well they announced uh they're gonna be you know whatever announcement to the announcement more details come in but they're
Starting point is 03:16:38 gonna do a balanced uh update as well that wasn't just a little mini thing and this time they've confirmed it we're gonna balance it and give everyone only buffs only buffs incoming they don't care they don't care this is as intended as designed too bad oh man more hammer loops more wind fucking bullshit like more that's the funniest thing in the world there's a great it's a screenshot of the dev and he's saying thank you guys for playing the game and everything and just uh uh what's the exact wording I love it yeah our direction is to add only buffs for all characters oh just the fucking the absolute audacity man amazing I feel like this character isn't strong enough so uh if you if you have any complaints just look forward to getting some bullshit to you know to level
Starting point is 03:17:48 the playing fields nothing's getting nerfed I love it yeah yeah I've heard fucking hilarious and then yeah they dropped the the team samurai trailer for KOF 15 and you know Darly's there that's sick that's fucking cool right something actually interesting to note is the particle effects on Nakaruru and some of those characters look better than the explosions and particles in the base game so they're changing this the visual style and they're improving that with the the new characters as well which is cool because yeah that stuff is always you know needed a bit of work um I do miss the old days of the KOF 13 burning geocities gif on top of the the game that was the best but uh yeah um and I mean that's that's pretty much it's they they said that they're gonna show off
Starting point is 03:18:51 um as well uh New York Comic Con they're gonna show off the Mario movie trailer so oh goody that's coming October 6th oh I can't wait oh I can't wait oh man I can't wait it's coming I'm I'm I'm predicting it's probably gonna leave everyone going yeah all right that's probably that might be fine it's gonna it's gonna land and just be like if I'm thinking they're gonna put a lot of effort into making sure that you avoid a sonic trailer release nightmare and you kind of just land with a yeah okay um and everyone will be doing it and convincing you that they're doing it and uh Chris Pratt will just kind of be there Charlie Day and Jack Black and you know will be doing their best Luigi and Bowser and it'll all be happening and then Chris Pat Pratt will kind of just be there I like nothing in this world
Starting point is 03:19:52 would make me happier right now than like a video of Chris Pratt like having angry sex with a lasagna and like swearing at it just whatever we're not there yet we're almost there inflammatory fucking nonsensical anti-Italian shit like right before the movie trailer comes out and then oh you see I thought you were making a Garfield joke no oh god fuck I am making a Garfield joke aren't I I didn't know you're going for the Italian route but they work that works yeah all right I see I get it there we go and then that guy in Sopranos can say it's anti-Italian discrimination a reference I don't understand there you go I never watched that show yeah that's coming up and then of course lest we forget we're also going to have to see the Charles
Starting point is 03:20:56 Martinez cameo which again to call it I'm saying either the TV mascot version of Mario which you then zoom out to reveal that the real Mario which is Chris Pratt is like I don't talk like that why would they do that wow or it'll be like shaft and they'll just go for the full on Charles Martin a is actually Mario grandpa senior yeah and the new Mario is is the the young Chris version of it you know what they should do you know what they should really do all right be like and this and this was your grandpa and have a goddamn photo on a table of Lou Albano from the Super Mario Super show that would be unbelievable that would be so good that would be like yes that's succeeding if they do shit like that absolutely um hell yeah fantastic good bit let's take some letters it's
Starting point is 03:21:59 getting late hey if you want to send in a letter what don't don't mail it because we're not going to read it there's nowhere to mail it to but send an email to castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com um and then uh uh uh uh and then uh uh next to Captain Lou Albano is uh is John Leguizamo yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly all the way in lean all the way in mm-hmm it's fucking so stupid all right we got one coming in from X who says high independence woolly and revolution pat last week was Mexican independence day and I have a funny anecdote urban myth about uh a Mexican him the Mexican him and one of the first lines apart goes uh ma si osare un extrano enemigo profanar con su planta to suelo
Starting point is 03:23:05 which translates would be something like if a strange enemy would dare to profane our land with our souls but in the but the way it's said it makes up for a lot of people uh in Mexico that think Mexico has a beef with a strange enemy called uh ma si osare uh so people joke and blame ma si osare whenever bad things happen it it seems more like an urban myth but also that people uh but also that people uh would try to name their kid ma si osare and to the extent that some cities had to forbid it as a name when you try to register it that's funny as hell I love that that's good it's Joe bin who's Joe bin dad I don't know who the fuck my dad was talking about never met a guy named Joe bin but apparently he's up to all sorts of shit he's a dumb ass
Starting point is 03:24:09 good shit um we got one coming in from mute who says uh deer potato of light and thin power gone when you brought up the topic of pandora depression and Japanese tourists getting depressed by paris I realized something about myself I never felt missing fictional utopian worlds but I absolutely feel a longing for dystopian ones places like martinez from disco elysium roan per roana per from black lagoon or town on gorkon from pathologic I fully realized I would die in those places and I don't want to live there yet I miss those pothold filled streets and broken people maybe it's the stories in the music that got me emotionally attached maybe it's just my brain being broken because I live in Eastern Europe are there any fictional settings that absolutely blow as a place
Starting point is 03:25:06 but nevertheless you'd want to have live there or have some familiar fondness for them so I literally saw a joke about this earlier today as I was scrolling through my timeline I think it was some stupid to share zone thing and it was like we like we live in a dystopia but not a cool one yeah we're we're we're got the amazon robot telling us not to piss instead of eating Chinese food in the rain right a blade runner kind of thing um what is a cool dystopian future that would would suck to live in but you kind of have some admiration for it I have anything that gives me robot parts on my arms so here I'll same answer the world of ghost in the shell amazes and terrifies me it would be so interesting and so cool but also so fucking horrifying to cyber brain
Starting point is 03:26:06 yourself and just have your ability to throw on as much or as little robot as you want I know there's others that go that way obviously Deus Ex is a setting that gets into it with the Hansers but but I but the the stories told and like stand alone complex or you know just like do you want to be inside a little fucking box like bank thing with a couple of limbs yeah strap me in you want to be a tachycoma like how do you want to how bad do you want to go or do you just want to get lost in the internet forever with nobody it's it's fascinating depending on what what who's writing it what that entails so like in cyberpunk like the the the the tabletop the anime and the game going full brain in a robot chrome is like a total one-way trip to psychopathy
Starting point is 03:27:01 and murderousness but but meanwhile riding is a robot from his top molars down and he's doing all justice and shit and all his damages from back when he was a flashy human but like in the ghost of the shell setting like if you decide no fuck all that I'm a stay human you can be like Togusa and just have a hard time interfacing with life forever yeah just you are always left out of everything oh you don't have a credit card that's weird I guess we could write up a receipt for you in cash just give me a couple minutes you're gonna be the guy ordering a Filet-O-Fish at McDonald's for the rest of your life yeah fucking okay we gotta defrost it it'll be 20 minutes is that cool by the by the way about the Japanese tourism thing I spoke to Paige
Starting point is 03:27:56 about as she lived in Japan for quite some time for some context on that and got a bonus answer as to why it is so damaging to Japanese tourists specifically when they go to Paris and green and Green Gables and the answer is is that when Japan advertises a location in Japan to go to the advertisement is exactly what you're gonna get they say come to Kyoto come to Hiroshima come to Bunny Island the local stuff is as is accurate it's it's dead on truth in advertising because they don't need to dress it up because visiting those places rules yeah when it comes to foreign locations yeah it's the postcard I see alright let's take one more from a loophole master balloon who says dear scrub was hustler scam streamer edition alright let's do it hope
Starting point is 03:29:03 I'm not too late to jump on the hustler scam train direct chat city for a while I like that a streamer I follow recently made a series of poor decisions regarding hastily made bets that they have come to regret in exchange for profits okay the bets concerned the modification of their player character in some lame MMO that would rustle their jimmies for a period of multiple months after reviewing the footage though it did not seem that the streamer ever promised that they would actually play the game outside of planning a streamer to in the future what I want to know is if the streamer accepted the monetary donations in exchange for ruining their game would it be a scam material to simply not play the game capitalized until the bet expired or is it good enough of a loophole
Starting point is 03:29:54 to rise to hustle heaven appreciate your time never stop making money from loophole master there's no loophole here if the person plays the game mandatorily four days a week including three hours every Sunday how much of that is streamed fear a little okay and has a wife that will absolutely blow them apart and snitch on them for funsies if they tried to loophole any of it when I did that I made sure to tell page to not let me get away with it I told everyone in my discord who would love to rat me out for bullshit to not let me get away with it so there's no way I can not get away with it if you just stopped playing for a couple months and then showed back up later um I would call that a scam yeah except I play the game five days week okay
Starting point is 03:31:00 uh yes no the knowledge of the knowledge of the hard peach snitch is pretty solid that's good there's no there's no come on that's good let's come on if anything I got scammed yes there's no follow-up to that scammed all the way to the bank yeah there's no follow-up to that at all all right that'll do it folks oh I'm seeing I'm seeing a wild claim in the chat I don't know if it's true so we'll just leave it there all right never mind all right leave it there I'll see you next time everybody you

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