Castle Super Beast - CSB 189: The Moon of Mahaa-Kalaa Hour: A Borneshaming Podcast

Episode Date: October 18, 2022

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Put me down, get up now. Welcome to the moon of Mahakala podcast the front line defense in defending Platinum against whatever accusations might be flung their way and parrying that shit That's that's our jolly. Well, do you know why that's our job? Specifically whatever accusations come at Platinum's way. We tap forward and deflect it and Do you know why we need to do that woolly specifically why us raise your hand if you have more followers than Hideki Kamiya Hold on hold on hold on

Oh you have way more it's way way more this this may be an untruth Hold on No, he's back dude Yeah, he's back with a fucking new account. No, it's the same one It's the same one. Yeah, it's not a new account. He's back. Oh It this morning it had to be back up. Oh No, no, it's the exact say it's not a brand-new account. It's the exact same account back. Oh, no But this morning it was climbing like it was like 2000

Bummer well, I guess we're off the hook then huh Yeah, I so I suppose I suppose so Anyways Oh video games boy, howdy. I love talking about video games All right It's good. It's good times good week nice and under slept give the in the right state Um Yeah, the bit bit annihilated you did it was a shot. It was a shot. I tried I retweeted

I retweeted somebody who was like raise your hand if you got more followers cuz at the time I did Well, cuz it got locked down, but yeah, my mic sounds like shit. Is there an issue with my microphone today walls? Um You sound fine to me is it possible that the headphones are doing the the phone thing again I don't think so possible. Let me take a look Let me see. Oh, it's the same thing every time where I'm using a I'm using a hardware compressor and everybody Okay, because they would they would rather have horrible peaks and valleys Room echo then have it be slightly flatter

Yeah, I think I so yeah, hey, I literally fix it in post by the way Yeah, I got a goddamn mixer and a proper microphone again that's almost identical to my old one and Like every day that I stream People are just like it's the new microphone terrible and then I go sit listen to my own audio Mm-hmm, and it sounds so much fucking better than it used to dude, and I'm like every everyone is insane The the the first time we switched over to these mics from the old shitty room ones

Some people were like this is different. I hate it even though the quality was immensely improved All right change makes negative no matter what even in a world of like I just took you from 360 p to 4k What are you talking about? Chat said that I'm a bit loud. I'm sorry. I was born this way at the same time I'm also looking forward to seeing how people Freak out because I bought some new lights for the the the game setup and that's gonna make us look significantly different as well and People are probably not ready for it, especially when they see all the weird creases scars and Details you never wanted to fucking see up close. Yeah, you really want to get those butthole veins dealt with well

Yeah, y'all don't you don't want to see You don't want to see my weird ear thing that I got I got a weird ear I got a weird ear thing and nobody understood everyone's like what the fuck is that weird ear thing? I'm like, yeah, is that new I don't remember you having that no I have a weird ear thing. Oh Yeah, I guess your hair pretty much always covers it. Yeah, well pretty much, you know and the headphones obviously Anyways, what's up with the weird ear thing? I had a boxing. No, I had a piercing and it Didn't go well. So it did that shit that it do. Yeah, unfortunately Anyways, yeah, so speaking of bummers, okay

Well, shall we mount the defense shall we describe how platinum can still save the day if they just Insert fucking reasons here if they just rewind time. I think So, yeah, let's just dive right in we get to How about if they how about if they just spend a little bit more than $4,000 on Helena Taylor the voice of Bayonetta. How about that? I really want to I really want to Bring up a certain phrase that I think is funnier and funnier every day Which is platinum never loses its luster. Oh boy. Oh boy. Yeah, exactly is it's like It's the funniest fucking thing in the world man

Because Like platinum games comes out. It's clover. We're gonna do clover shit. Yeah, and then like Right away infinite space was like kind of mid They was fine, but it's like but it's like it's still the it's still your your gameplay over all else small studio underdog story of like yeah, you know, let's go with that and Then it's like even their bangers like how are like definitively flawed Like they wanted to are great. They're they're seriously flawed and like wonderful one-to-one is great. It's very

Very flawed now. I didn't Babylon's fall is a thing that Well, here's the thing is I didn't realize that there was some people out there that were like every time Babylon's fall comes up And will he blame Square Enix instead of platinum? He's deflecting from the their shit and he's running a defense on that or whatever and but that's no that that is That has come up significantly in the in leading up to us talking about this shit Oh, no, no, no, I don't mean that that that's the claim isn't real. I mean that that the reality is not that so I Was entirely going so there was a video where the gameplay looked good

And then there was late then when the game came out it looked bad What happened why would that be the case and it was very confusing that there would be the good version and then suddenly not the good version I Want to hold up my hand for a second. I You just while you're describing How people misunderstand you I looked over and saw someone in the chat say is Pat saying that he always hated Clover Because that's seriously re-narratization I'm like We're not even there yet. We're in the fucking meandering preamble, but I

Always looked at that thing of like kind of like when I look at Project relink with the the ground blue stuff and I go oh well There's a version where the it looks like they do the thing they usually do which is make some fun combat And then when I see a version of that that looks nothing like that I'm I get very confused as to like why this whole thing is different. You know why You guys saw somebody sum it up perfectly, which is it was Psi games is planned to play Platinum pay Platinum for an entire game That was so good that they then threw out every single part of it to start completely over with a new company

So, you know Whenever I've seen master plan. Yeah, whatever I've in the in the industry in the past whenever I've worked on games that have Started out one way and then become something completely different by the end. It's almost universally been due to publisher Based meddling as opposed to dev based stuff. So that's kind of my perception on it If that ain't the case and they just it's just completely entirely Platinum's fuck up on that then That's unusual and I find fair enough. That's the that's what that situation was then but My entire thing about thinking it was Square Enix was just because like I don't

Whenever you see a game become a shade of its former self in these instances That's often what it tends to be I don't know if there's ever any hard confirmation though because I know behind the scenes I saw that happen to a fuck ton of games. I've worked on, you know That's green eggs But regardless of all that shit. Yeah So this week we get hit with the fun news that it sure does sound like Platinum games Treated the voice of Bayonetta Helena Taylor like shit

It sure does sound according to what she's been Telling us by breaking NDA no less that they likely low balled her by Asking for, you know, what she called an insulting number which then was upped to 4k after she spoke directly with Hideki Kamiya and then After turning that down if there was any sort of budgetary concern They then got Jen Hale who is a very prominent voice actor who definitely I imagine was not getting that same rate Or given that so so then it makes it look like they wanted to probably get rid of her on purpose

That's some fucking shit There's a couple things that could be going on here So Helena Taylor comes out and says that they offered her 4k, which is like not even enough to pay her rent for a couple months And she's been the voice of this character for two games and it's ridiculous And you look at the the new trailer they just put out where there's gonna be like four or five or six Bayonettas So the workload on on acting for it would have been like, you know tripled quadrupled maybe And they offer her basically a pittance like a six pence and

Every part of this story is strange. It's not nothing that Helena Taylor says is strange. It's it's eminently believable You had voice actors coming out This is a gentleman named Sean Chiplock who was talking about how you made more money off of fucking freedom planet that he did off of Breath of the Wild There's the company behind the wonderful 101 Kickstarter. They got more for doing the Kickstarter There's Brian Dechart came out and said yes is absolutely the norm Just just complete dog shit offers for like major roles

Stuff like that So that all rings true, right? It has the it has the there's no reason to doubt it what becomes very strange is What the fuck are they doing? Because the replacement is Jen Hale Jen Hale is the Most long-running prominent female voice actor in video games period She assuredly commands the highest rate Which means it can't have just been the money It had to have been something more than that either somebody wanted Helena gone like like literally some

Accountants some directors some whatever it could have been that they were attempting to go to to push the voice cast non Union and decided to start with the star and then that blew up in their fucking face because everybody else on the cast is union Including Jen Hale and that's what I was about to go to is the part that confuses the fuck out of me Is the idea that sag the screed actors Guild which they're all all members of Would not be involved in this process because not only are they around for? Contract disputes and pay disputes, but they're also around to make sure that a member of their union doesn't come in To replace another member of their union based on something like being lobaled right the whole point of the union is To negotiate for better rates and to protect the members of the union by making sure you can't

Undercut someone to find someone else if you're both members you're gonna have solidarity, right? So that's why it's also It's also like Jen Hale has also been a very very prominent union sag Advocate for voice actors role. So yeah, it's an extra weird pick It's super strange because like that's it from it looks definitely like a situation that sag should have been involved with to protect You know the deal that they were trying to make with Helena, right? So, yeah, there's there's that that definitely Leaves it to a situation where there's more here that we don't have the full story on and I mean assuming that that was the Final and best offer and that there was no sort of like I don't know like royalty or whatever other version of the

Details might up be out there Something then led a camea to say this is not true. It's a lie essentially Some something vaguely I forget the exact phrasing, but like the sadness of untruth or something So he says that that's not that what she says is not what happened. So now it's like, okay, so then what did happen? and The camea then on a completely separate note just goes down a Real clown shoes weekend of I guess like beware my rules motherfucker. Yeah, like so the bit Doesn't work when it's a serious issue

It's not the whole like get blocked on the Kickstarter. Ha ha like that doesn't apply When someone's talking about something that is real dude like fucking come on, you know And then continuing to push it that way really bad call really No tacked on that one the account gets gets locked down by Twitter eventually and then deletes and then comes back this morning Just what the fuck? What are you doing, man? when when Someone's primary workplace Accusation is that you were unreasonable and insulting

to Turn around and start acting like a child throwing a tantrum Mm-hmm. Definitely Does the best way to handle it? Mm-hmm. No, okay. So yeah, the kayfabe. There's no kayfabe. That's just who he is. That's a read. That's that's what it is Oh, yeah, and he is a fucking prick and the thing of the thing that definitely is like a Part of this that has always been a part of it is like at some point as well Like you could just put the phone down like you could actively not be on Twitter or be on Twitter as much as the other fellow

Game developers are which is to some degree, but not that often When I think his name is Atsushi Inaba was running platinum. They had a behind-the-scenes for like I think it was 101 maybe and He he's literally like talking straight at the camera. He's like, I don't know how Kimia gets any work done Mm-hmm. I literally only see him on his phone and I'm like yelling at him every single day to get off Twitter Yeah, and no, so that's so it's it's funny until it's not unfortunately, you know and Yeah, you kind of so that and then because that response was the first and only thing That kind of becomes the official response more or less because he was called out by name in the third video that that Helena posted

You know alongside the like Pleasant message and all the niceties and such about you know the role that she played And then again insulting offer So I've seen people trying to like I guess try to find the the average rates to compare them And there's definitely a larger conversation that can be had about how voice actors are underpaid period Voice actors are paid dog shit like the mob psycho stuff is like fucking bananas. So what's happening season three? Mob is gonna be voiced by a different person because they didn't want to go Union. Okay So they're gonna switch out in the third season of the dub to a new actor just because they didn't want to pay like Union rates

Which are low anyway for voice actors. There's also There's also an actor on that. I think it was on on mob where she was describing half for like three seasons of work She's gotten like $400 And there's there's some anime some news shonen called chutsu Jujutsu kaisen Yeah, JJ JJK the dub actors got paid

Like a hundred and fifty bucks each for their movie speaking roles Which in that movie came out in the US and made like millions of dollars right so and it's like yeah So like larger larger conversation about how the how fucking shit that is and the fact of course that like You know that I mean that I believe the the the there was a point where it's just like voice acting is acting I think was like the hashtag because it was like the perception of like now. You're just talking into a thing It's not the same as doing a full performance and it's like motherfucker You should see what they go through to like deliver those lines and it's what the funniest The funniest thing about that is that it's not the same thing. It's a completely different thing

It's a completely different thing. It's why it's so frustrating when you see Mario movie and it's like star star star star Well, why not about prominent voice actors who would? Do great jobs because they're voice actors Mm-hmm Chris Pratt is not a voice actor. That's very clear hence the term stunt casting, right? Now I that's the thing is just I don't get I don't get like the union aspect of that and then zooming out I don't understand to what benefit it would be for platinum to take in this particular instance with a character like Bayonetta a Massively defining like aspect of the character coming to life something. That's a huge part of what she is to everybody Like there's so much to that

We've certainly seen Replacements happen before we've seen You know David haters talk about being sick to his stomach when he when he's not the voice of solid snake and literally in Street Fighter 6 Ken is a new voice as well Right. Yeah, so like that type of thing has happened now eventually hater did take a picture out with Key for Sutherland and have like the twin snakes as the title and stuff and it kind of just looks like alright at some point in the planning They Kojima went I'm just gonna straight up offer this to the Hollywood's because that's the direction. I want to go in and so on But this kind of feels different because instead of just going we want to replace Helena entirely with you know

Someone else or with Jen Hale They they went through an auditioning process Which as she explained was to make sure they can still you know do the job and then once she passed it with flying colors This whole thing happened. So if instead of just the ugly But we've seen it before we're replacing you from the top and you never heard about what or why She was actually part of the inside process of casting and then pushed out and that makes it much more targeted and shitty you know And now we get to the now we get to the the fun part where it's wildly speculative

I'm seeing Suggestions that it may have been Something to do with her politics, which I don't know I don't know what her politics are and I don't know what Platinum's politics are either You see speculation. That's that's what yeah, okay Yeah, it could be could be anything and you run into the situation in which so Everybody else on that cast is NDA and Union

And as a result Kind of Stuck there's a quote or there's a statement from Jen Hale that came out like literally five minutes Right before the podcast right so prior to that I didn't so I yeah, we just got this now, but like What she Jen Hale was liking tweets that effectively were saying She's probably under NDA and can't say anything and she and other tweets that were saying she She likely didn't know anything about the situation going in like don't throw her under the bus for it So that seemed pretty like hey, yeah, this is kind of an NDA situation and then there's this statement

So with regard to band of three as a longtime member of the voice acting community I support every actor's right to be paid well and have advocated consistently for this for years That is absolutely accurate and it's very clear Anyone who knows me or has followed my career will know that I have a great respect for my peers And they have advocated for all members of the community I am under NDA and then not a liberty to speak regarding the situation. However, my reputation speaks for itself I sincerely ask that everyone keep in mind this game has been created by an entire team of hard-working dedicated people And I hope everyone will keep an open mind about what they have created

Finally, I hope that everyone involved may resolve their differences in an amicable and respectful way with love and respect to you all Jen Hale Not a whole lot of substance there obviously because of the nature of it and Something that may come up in the in the near or far future regardless is that if you're actually dealing with Individuals that you really really really want a hot take on a particular Organization or legal matter. It's quite possible That they have some kind of legal barrier to that discussion

And that would be under your best interest to go somewhere else where you can get that hot take without that kind of bias or legal barrier it it does in fact seem that large amounts of bias and Yes legal barriers against Elaboration perhaps Disparagement who knows all kinds of things like that. Yeah, that's one of those things Might get in the way of being able to speak openly and freely about So an opinion you'd like to hear about mm-hmm

So I would highly advise you if you for example are Unthrilled with Jen Hale's like reasonable but fairly Unsatisfying response that you would go and instead look to the wider voice acting community and look to their Responses about their experiences instead of going to what is essentially a brick wall To the best of which she can say I've signed an NDA. All right. Yeah, right Right so now we're in the wider conversation about She called for a boycott of Bayonetta 3 Which is

Fascinating because video game boycotts don't work they don't and Bayo actually Sold out on my Amazon and retailers as a direct result of this publicity that being said it like It's understandable given the nature of like if she's at the point of breaking her NDA because like she's waited probably until like the Final minute of this game being about to come out to see if there is any resolution it would I would assume You know with someone that has you know very little to no power in that situation Trying to have some sort of effect That's like

That's the result, right? That's what you go towards and I and I get it I mean to me that's like That's the type of shit that's like man of well, there's there's the part where you're like This is a game that is also like people have been waiting for it for literally like most of a decade Yeah, we went from there's all that nonsense fucking days with no news And that whole game and such to this you know right in the The the right at the the finishing line so to speak and being like well, I guess we can't have nice things or feel nicely about them

People have voiced their support their their their support for that and are You know gonna be joining that I get it I understand certainly for me I'm gonna I'm waiting for more information to come out. I definitely I'm like I don't know what's gonna Shake from this. I definitely think that I Might not buy that I might not buy it Right away, but mm-hmm. I might play it right away

I'm in a if you catch my meaning if you catch my drift if you picking up what I'm putting down If you're loading up a ROM into my emulator called Yuzu if you understand what I'm saying That was a that's come on. You kind of killed it there. Well He kind of killed the fun on that. Well, sometimes folks don't get to so I'm I'm torn I'm torn because you remember a while ago the the fray the the the the the voice acting push was voice acting matters Right, do you remember that that was that was one of them

Yeah, that was the push for the the higher wages a while ago. Yeah, and it's like I'm I'm in this personal situation of like man, this is This is a gross situation But I was in fact very much looking forward to this game. I was very excited. I was also excited to cover it and I'm in this situation in which I'm like I would rather there be no voice actors anymore Go on Then have to deal with this you'd rather games don't have voice acting I would I would rather buy a version of the game that doesn't have voice acting I mean

That's a weird ass take. I don't agree with that, but I do think that Even if you remove that from the equation, there's still a million ways to Treat like shit and or exploit different people working for you whether that's a voice actor an artist a dev a staffer of any kind There's a lot of ways for that to go poorly. It doesn't just have to be a voice actor I can I can look over to my left and I can see people Misunderstanding what I mean I'm not saying that I want you to go out into the street and break every voice actor's legs and tell them They can't work anymore. No, I think it makes me it makes me wish the game didn't have voice acting at all

Because for my premier like action game, I don't care I like I actually don't care About like the cutscenes are cool and all but if the if the character action Series genre was literally a series of levels with cool moves. I would probably like them almost just as much No, it makes me sad that that this Extra because what are the issues here is that? Particularly with Japanese companies. They don't give a shit about Western voice actors specifically Like in in all the examples that we described earlier

The English dub casts are the ones who get super fucked over Well side note on the first thing you said with the take I'll get back to but I've been reading in about how Voice actors in Japan say you as you call them are also kind of more or less treated like shit unless they're in the top a Lister grouping. They're the ones who are like Revered and are you know celebrities in their own right because they've they're prolific in anime are treated wonderfully, but like Lower level voice actors in Japan are also treated like shit, too. So I don't I just saw Really excellent about that, which is so just destroy a whole industry to which I say a

Industry that can't be run ethically doesn't need to exist Right and I actually include video games entirely on that list Because they're luxury toys at the end of the day at the end of the day Yes, this is all just video games, right? That that is a bottom line. You can always refer to I think I get what your point Is about like I'd rather they not exist or you'd rather they not be there I don't think it was about attacking and breaking the legs of voice actors, but even in your take there I still think that's like no, I disagree with that because There's a lot of things that are not core to what I want especially out of a character action game that could still be

Similarly shit on and exploited in bad ways like all these little all these little window dressings like are all Vulnerable to this type of treatment, you know voice acting in particular is something that I care about I like I Enjoy the aesthetics. I enjoy the characterization I care about it in the way that I care about the art In a way that I care about the music, you know what I mean and all these little things of course The impact you're gonna have replacing the voice of the main character is not gonna be The the same impact as replacing the voice of the vocalist of the theme music for Dante

You know what I mean like that's a much more minor aspect of it But at the end of the day when it comes to can people make working on this game get treated by like shit in the exact same way Even if there was no voice acting in it. Absolutely You know, yeah, no, and and and I'm actually going somewhere with this that that's just my gut reaction Uh, but then as somebody correctly points out that I work for amazon and youtube Who are evil? Yeah, so bucks, baby um

and Then I get trapped I had a I had a discussion with some friends of mine On discord the other day In which we were like lamenting the state of society and like how everything is bad And like went around and discovered that like everyone in the discord was working for an industry That was part of the problem

Hmm Are we gonna are we are we hitting the cop out? Are we hitting the cop out button? Oh, it's it's coming and it's just like oh and also we were doing so in discord Perfect, right? And it's just like yeah, no, that's the issue with my thing of like a Industry that doesn't can't comport itself ethically doesn't need to exist and it's like well, they can but they're not gonna and I feel

I feel like You got to see it with harry potter very strongly and now you're gonna see it with bayo in which there's people who are like Like my life's pretty good. Your life's pretty good. Things are going pretty well for us. I think right? I love my wife. I got the dog. I got the cat. I moved out to bc things are going well I I enjoy my my my job. I like to sit here on mondays and talk to you, right? But I remember a version of me that was like working at the grocery store And was like oh man I'm not gonna like just walk into the ocean because the guy at game buzz gave me bayonetta a week early

Even though he wasn't supposed to And like I feel there's just this I I I can already see the people that are like I just I just want to play my video game Yeah, yeah, I just I can I just I can I just play with my toy? Well, like just that's it And the answer is you can you absolutely can it's just Just you don't need to get like the meme I think is like the

Dude gets the knife out and is like how dare you insult my my favorite corporation. I'll defend you corp He's diving into action those those those people are complete and it's just total psychos Yes, the harry potter thing gave us like this massive macrocosm Of of the two reactions, right, which is I don't give a shit about harry potter. I don't give a fuck, right? I don't I think it's it's fucking silly wizard shit Sure, maybe like ha ha turf game for babies ha ha And there's there's two reactions to that the the first reaction is all what no How could I I've grown up with harry potter and it's it's great and it's it's good for the kids and

You you just don't know right and then there's Yeah I but I like the books when I was I really like it and I want to Pretend to be wizard come on man Yeah, yeah, like that like there's the there's the two sides of it There's like how dare you and then there's like come on just let me have my toy and it's just it's just the it's just like don't Like if that's the if that's the way that hates you because this is going to continue to happen for the rest of our lives

As you can as you discover everything you enjoy has some shit up. That's a part of it that fucking sucks right that will continue to happen forever and My statement my point my whole sentiment has always just been Just don't pretend as long as you don't pretend it doesn't exist as long as you don't kick the dirt over it You know that was the whole s and k thing that was every one of these little yeah The s and k thing is the best example because the best s and k thing is like did you know that Maybe a couple of your pennies went to murder someone Not a lot of but some people didn't some people didn't know legitimately did not know

So just just don't pretend it doesn't like liable. No, it doesn't make you liable That would be silly If you're tuning in and listening to us on a regular basis and you're like, okay, here we go again It's like that's one thing certainly, but it's just like yeah Legitimately a lot of people didn't know and you know just like a lot of people probably also didn't catch the What was the update on on the fucking jk bit where it's like a ally of the of the russian empire like I don't know Quoted like down the down the drain. It goes name dropped by putin

For fucking for big credits, you know, like wild shit. So that's it man It's it's knowing knowing about that and then if you're if your responses. Oh, shit. Yes. If your response is yeah Okay, and then you go back to being dejected. It's like that's like I get that I do get it. I'm uh, um, I I'm unclear as to what my plans for coverage are I'm wondering I was I was planning to hit it and blow it out in like a day or two You were planning dude. I started the rolling start on the second game Um a week ago. Yeah, no, right you're like gearing up We were we were both planning to just hit it as hard as we could and I'm I'm torn

because There's There's the David cage argument to be made Okay. All right. I'm listening you have my attention go on when we played heavy rain or Fahrenheit It was not An advertisement. Yes to go purchase such a product. This is true. This is true

Now is that a laughable cop out to go well, I can have it so that you don't have to have it A million percent considering that absolutely is that we have been one of the forefront fucking platinum and character action game enthusiasts locations on the holy shit You just turned into us a pink smear Okay, that's weird because it only happened. I'm looking at the my local camera And okay, I didn't do that. Well. Well. Well. Yeah, so uh discord has called out your shit Oh, no, discord's calling you out on that one. Yeah So, um, let me check so I got

I'm not gonna hear you want to hear something really funny. You want to hear something really fucking funny I'm not gonna name a name because they never got back to me and they still might But let's just imagine woolly that there is some kind of high end niche Japanese series That you and I would have been really excited to do a video series back in the day until a dinosaur Told us to go fuck ourselves under threat of channel deletion And then ran that same gimmick years and years later

Imagine my fucking face when I open up my business email and get low bald a fucking offer to do an official sponsorship for it That would probably involve you not being able to show everything That that includes like uh Talking it up and it's new versions um And because they don't know that I had like a playthrough that I had to kill because of the streaming regulations, which are still in place like

It's fucking Did you just reply with a jpeg of a stegosaurus? No, I replied I replied with they were like, what do you want? I was like, this is what I want They're like, we'll get back to you and that was like 10 days ago. Yeah, okay Well, anyway, um, I am wondering and then this is legit. This is a this is a real question um Do you think that uh should

launch day come and um a bayonetta three let's play commenced um and The only difference was that it was in 4k and that there was a Uh a window a task bar at the bottom of the screen um Do you how do you think?

I wouldn't recommend that because that's a banable offense on yeah, I was gonna say how would how would that play out? It would play out like the person doing so would lose their channel. Yeah, okay That's that's that's kind of the that's the vibe I got You know is how it would play out. No, what's interesting of course is that stuff like fightcade continues to be a thing Right. There's there's stuff out there. Yeah, but like Come on That's that's that's my argument to that which is come on That's the legal argument

Come on. Yeah. No and my my uh your honor. Uh my defense opening statement is yeah Yeah Your honor come on you know Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. Yeah I mean we could we could always pass the buck and just throw out a vote and say hey Who wants to see it on the channel anyway?

And then the vast majority of people will go yes, and then totally absolve us of any moral Responsibility whatsoever But uh, yeah, that is that is a thing. What if your frame? For the um For the window that you're playing it in is just a transparent frame of like a windows 3.1 Thing that's that's just really funny. Yeah, that's just that's just funny um, it's it's It's messy

It's weird and also man. I This this is gonna sound I don't know how it's gonna sound But like I'm wary of getting into the into the expectation of like well if bad people worked on this game You can't cover it because then we might as well just stop playing video games at all I mean if Can you put a disclaimer up that says no no rape rooms were created in the making of this game before you press start To which somebody says you don't know that

Do you agree to the eula you don't do you agree to do you agree to the eula that says That there may have been Like no fewer than three Fucking cosby sweets involved in the creation of this game Yeah, I mean how many how many more of these do we need to go through? I mean like look at fucking skull girls in lab zero. That was like a fucking tiny little indie place Yeah, and then on and on it goes like oops. Yeah, well the you know The happy ending uh to that is that they were able to like get the game and people could enjoy it without feeling like shit

You know uh seeing as the the hidden variable and and autumn games were doing their thing uh with the the the the product um In this case You're looking at just like any of these other stories about like you know this type of shitty behavior Like one where it's gonna feel bad, but um, I guess the difference is that in those other cases There wasn't somebody who like in their message was directly calling for the boycott, right? so That kind of is what and and then

And then you're gonna you're gonna have you're gonna have to see What comes of this over the course of the next week and or two because there's gonna be more to this I imagine most of it will happen behind closed doors as platinum's gonna handle it legally You know, uh, nintendo or not May or may not you know, but nintendo should probably say something if platinum doesn't Because if nothing If they can choose to just ignore the story entirely and and that'll be that and just be like Yeah, we'll just take the the hit we'll take the bad press and call it a day

But if platinum doesn't come out and say something officially nintendo absolutely should I I feel I this like adding adding the morality of of buying playing of uh entertainment product like this is now so complex because like This is all what about is and this is all no ethical consumption, but like it's all cop out But at the same time like let's take Bayonetta, right Bayonetta is uh being under platinum under nintendo and someone at least one person over There is a dickhead who offered shit rates to an actor who deserve better, right?

You know, um Bayonetta used to bayonetta used to be under sega who um Our criminals And uh my favorite thing in the world is the like a dragon series Which is like a fucking puff piece about how murderous sex trafficking criminals in japan Really do have hearts of gold Right like

well the I mean, you know like the the in-game versions of them Of course being this the the sanitized thing, but yeah, and also pirates That are celebrated on the high seas as well as as adventurers and stuff and it's like roving great boats That just no no like I I don't I don't use a historical analog Like I use the yakuza thing very specifically because The yakuza thing is the devs are friends with crime man's

Okay, directly And make a crime man simulator that makes the crime man's look cool Like the the the like a dragon series is a direct arm of the pr of a criminal Right, right, right. Okay. Okay, right. Yeah, this was like if the problem is is that they're great This was like if if the creator of one piece was directly hanging out with modern-day pirates Over the Indian Ocean and Somalian seas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay um On that note, did you know that you can fund?

pirate operations by like literally sending them money and then getting back a percentage of whatever they raid Like there was a whole like kickstarter for pirate thing that popped up sometime ago. That was like, hey That's that's yeah, anyway, um, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I want to make I want to respond to something I just saw the great which is pat says that but the like a dragon series Goes into detail about just how terrible most of the yakuza are and that's the trick The trick is That yeah, the guys that you're gonna run into they're just the bad yakuza

But the guys the top or the guys really running things they're they're good guys deep down, you know Kiri you would never sex traffic those people um I'll I'll have to find out firsthand myself Um in the future. He wouldn't he was he's a good guy. Okay. Never killed anybody To get right back to it though What is super fucking fucking confusing and weird as well Is that if you look at a lot of industries when it comes to the sequels or the season one season two season three

When somebody returns as a role, they're often offered double what they got last time As an incentive to retain the role and keep continuity as a matter of principle and exactly incentive Because this is what that value is worth now that they've been an established part of this and they've helped create it And this is what's going forward, you know, there's often an in that that amount And in fact when it wasn't that amount, that's why terrence howard walked away and don cheetah took over as rhodi, right? Um, but that was the first time I remember hearing about how oh, yeah, like returning roles often double up on what you were offered last time so I mean

That's not mentioned here in these cases, but it's like Dear god, what did she get for bayo one and bayo two? You know, was there an hourly rate that was just Like fucking peanuts. Yes. Yeah, probably that's probably exactly what it was Hmm Yeah You know what the you know what the if you want to talk out real cop out like real cop out shit Do you want to you want to talk about the really fun one? Which is

Uh, you hear, uh, unconfirmable rumors that devs on certain projects are just complete pieces of shit But you have no way to prove it whatsoever because it's just one person telling you So you can't exactly run with it And so you're stuck in the situation of like, well, I don't have objective proof that they're complete garbage Or that they don't pay people or whatever and I can't find out And the person I'm talking to could be completely full of shit like Ah And then you hear that a lot

But as time goes for tons of devs are garbage as time goes forward the likelihood of um That stuff getting confirmed increases, you know ultimately um, yeah, so uh, fuck that shit and Have a nice day You know like uh, I I await

Any sort of official response with bated breath certainly or at the very least there will not be some some contextualizing information as to like Why the iconic voice of your character was just like mep like like the the the whole thing about like maybe she'll show up as like Uh, uh in like a virginal style situation was the biggest most massive copium in retrospect ever I have I have the same exact thing we did with david hater I have never huffed more copium than that fucking Maybe she'll come back as the original other character in the story and they're just keeping it under wraps for plot reasons Oh my god

Get the tank out That was in retrospect. That's fucking crazy. You know, it's I'm in the very weird place. I described it as on um I described it on my stream the other day when the news broke And uh, I can modify it for you, uh, if you'll allow it, but I was in this place of like The fact that the thing that you like is made by complete pieces of shit Or even moderate pieces of shit, right has become such a common occurrence. It's become like the norm That I am not there yet

But I am this close to those of you at home listening to this no video I'm just holding my little fingers just a little close together I'm this close to somebody telling me that yoshi p got caught eating a baby at a restaurant And I just go I don't even care. I I I don't even I don't even care when's the next patch coming out Oh You went right for it. I'm you went right for it. I'm getting there. I'm getting there I mean to be I mean well, so that thing that to you Did you know that street fighter six is made with orphan blood?

Yeah, so that that was I was talking to reggie about that that that exactly thing But no like that to you with yoshi p and and for like this is that with bail like this is literally that to me We're here. This is exactly that scenario. Um and like That's how it was for yours. Um over on mine. Uh, I was supposed to just have a a fun little Saturday stream with sharpie playing multiverses and it was supposed to just be a little good time

and then Of course when I you know the the attempt was made to just play and have fun But I kind of annihilated the stream When it was brought to a screeching halt because The question came up about what was going on with bao and I just fucking went off on that for Longer than we probably ended up playing multiverses and then that was the thing um to which of course

Whatever people fucking like it can't wait it can't wait to see woolly's like Like it's just like if you you can just you can go click on the video and go watch it If you want to if you want to catch that hot take you don't have to come in with some pre-empt like Or just or just like, you know t-minus However many hours until woolly's nervous breakdown on monday. Oh fuck yourself Legitimately, man. I anyways. I just I'm like I know um A lot of this news. I also am catching way late

because uh I've increased the amount of active twitter dodging. I've been putting up uh in my life I Confirmed that the last couple times I went to um the the the every time I go to the home page On twitter and I scroll through it 100 percent of the time 10 out of 10 times I see something that upsets me and makes my day a little bit worse, right? Is that the solution? I should I should I have just

just been like Just stay off the whole internet except for doing the streams and then when I'm streaming bayonetta 3 somebody's like Did you know and I'd be like wow? I didn't know I I confirmed I tested myself and I confirmed that Every single time I went to it and looked at it It made my day a little worse even if I enjoyed scrolling past some fun art and some posts Uh from some places some people I like or some fun videos It it automatically brings it brings it down. It always gets worse. So I'm like I'm just not going there anymore, right? and that

So what ends up happening is I kind of pop it open and I'm like well There's the notifications that are directed at me and these are basically almost like an inbox of sorts that I'm scrolling through but um a lot of outside info is going to be late getting to me because I'm Pretty much actively dodging it and this week in particular. I was just I was spending time with my family legitimately just like out of it, you know like doing other shit and um It does it would not have been made better by wallowing deeper and deeper into that shit cesspool Uh, I'm in a I'm in a different place. Um

Um For whatever reason it doesn't affect me nearly as much I could see the the nightmare of the world and I'm like wow, that's terrible But like I can I can put up the shield so that it doesn't get like in Right and I can sympathize and I can empathize Uh, and I can become frustrated like the only the only there's only one twitter account that I could ever I had to stop following it. I had to stop following it Because it blew right through that shield every with every tweet and it was fore exposure

Fore fore exposure is is like a knife to my heart. I can see I can see war on my timeline and I can I can compartmentalize it and I can fucking put it away and I can just okay Right, but when I see fore exposure, there's something about the arrogance and the and the smugness and the fucking It just goes it goes right through it goes right through and I I can't no I can see war. I see war on my timeline all the time. You can't escape it. It's everywhere. Yeah, see it on woolly's twitter He likes Kirby. There you go But uh

So I'm in a different place, but like I don't want to be willfully ignorant particularly because I have a broadcast that I do Which seems irresponsible But I also don't want to become so drowned in the negativeness of the world that I then regurgitate that out back to it's I don't know. Yeah, I think I think I didn't go to college for this This is complicated. I think willful ignorance. Like there are there that does exist. Some people do operate that way I don't think we tend to operate that way. I think most of the time people are expecting a cleaning of house come Monday Let's hear what's gonna go on or whatever the opinions are gonna be And you know the big whenever it's one of those like oh can't wait for how it's gonna go dad

You know, that's a big thing that happens during the week. Um, but I do know that like I am just objectively looking at my life my What I feel my happiness my joy, you know, um It decreases when I doom scroll. It just goes down. So so for me it doesn't decrease input happiness It pushes me towards nihilism Yeah, that doesn't it doesn't decrease my mood

It just increases my belief that nothing matters and that I shouldn't care anymore, which is sad Um Same thing to me Same thing Those two things are are are not mutually exclusive. They both occur Um, you know what's a really good sample? I'm also After you after I know that

I've become a more cynical person over the years Oh, yeah, and I don't like that About myself. I legitimately don't enjoy that. I don't enjoy the fact that I have a cutting look at most things Right off the bat Because that's not who I always was and it's a I know it's it's what somewhat what I've aged into being But it's kind of getting older. It is But you know not but yeah, I mean sometimes I sit down and I'm watching a fucking award show with reggie

Who's like wow this cut scene looks amazing This video game looks great Like such cynical And I'm like, oh, he doesn't know He's in the world of joy He doesn't know that the fact that the cut scene is is framed like this means the game is trash. He's excited for farming You know like oh, I wish I could it's no I I do see that and I notice it in myself And I notice it like increased based on what I'm subjected myself to

I'm noticing it based on my personal algorithm And you know depending on what you scroll through on twitter what you scroll through on reddit or what you scroll through anywhere else You visit or get your news like It's gonna affect you. So I'm being mindful of how that should affect me, you know It's you you want to hear something that was a perfect example of this whole thing I'm on discord last night. I'm talking with some of my friends and we're talking about the bayonetta thing And Every single person in the discord, but me is doing the same thing

And that thing is playing wow classic as we're talking about the hell in a tailor thing and They're asking a friend of mine and then they got him into wow classic and he they gave him a bunch of bags and he's having a great time and I'm like And they're all they're having a blast. They're they're genuinely and I'm like Fuck

I don't want to fucking play wow classic, but I want to hang out with my pals and this they're they're having fun And I'm like, but blizzard's just so awful to which a friend of mine Pipes up. Yeah, but they're the ones who make the game Damn and I'm like, yeah, no they damn Damn those are some bars words Those are some words right and it and it's and it's like cart before the whore and I'm just like I can't go I I feel I feel I feel like there's an obvious

Breaking point on this where like I'm going down the steam list and like if I just start Picking off stuff based on who I know to suck ass like It's time to stop. No, that's that's of no help to me But you know for some people and this is brings it full circle um That whole thing of just like I don't want to like Like I'm no I'm aware of what makes me feel like shit. I don't want to feel like shit, right?

For some people they they they go they can go Well, it's just a video game and at the end I'd feel more like shit if I was playing this than if I wasn't So I'm just gonna not you know and I get that my usual that is my usual thing of like um If someone says atlas games have been damaged for me because of the way atlas treats us as creators Like I resent the company to the point where it hurts my enjoyment um So no so for you know friends of ours who are like, yeah, probably not gonna grab it probably not gonna support that or

you know, uh, gonna join the boycott with hell uh with uh for bail and and and you know like Such like it's like yeah, that makes sense too if you know that you know like buying that It would make you feel bad and or you know make you you'd feel worse about that or whatever then Do what you got to do to make sure that you don't feel like shit, you know, that that's part of it too I just saw my favorite I just saw my absolute favorite

Because it all this conversation always goes the same way And then every single time we talk about this conversation and when I start to cop out about like You know the cool consumption and everybody on a team is probably Cop out button. We need a nice little little fucking. So so here's the anti cop out, right? I look over and every time this time it's Hades But every time I look over and I see well just play this forever because everyone on that team is cool To which I say you don't know that give it a minute. Give it a minute. You don't know that Give it a minute lab zero was a perfect example

Skull girls is the feel-good fighting game made by indie talented people Indiegogo was great Right up until it wasn't as was clover You know as was seeds like You know what you know what uh, you know what actually the one that everyone should have seen like from a million miles away You know, you know the the the the the meme that the staunch male feminist is tends to be the guy Who's like actually like a secret like scumbag. Oh, yeah

Like a dirty fucking piece Like they who they didn't in there who the ally. Yeah Yeah, I'm such an ally. You don't even girl. You don't even know how much of an ally Just ally here drink this Right. It's my ally. I'll I'll protect your drink Oh, you need to use the bathroom. Don't worry. I'll watch it for you. Yeah, the biggest ally Oh, yeah The one the one that we really should have seen coming

Was loading up assassin's creed and being like this game is made by a group of diverse Oh, we did differing beliefs and that's what I and I remember Is that that's exactly we've taught we've called that out multiple times. I I I that has been acknowledged You know This game has been made by members of a cosby suite Of people of various faiths and diverse beliefs and yadda yadda yadda This game has been made by people who had hr departments that shuffled around um

assaulters predators Fucking weirdos creeps and people at christmas parties that can't control themselves and uh Had to sign nda's to not talk about the things that happened to them This made by those people too Yeah, so I don't know in terms of coverage I'm open to suggestions anybody wants to go to my twitter at pat stairs at and tell me what you think I should do In regards to bayonetta coverage by all means. I'm personally very torn I still very much want to cover it, but I don't want to let people down

I'm yeah, I'm um not in the not in the horrible mercantile way in which I'm like What's hey? What's the way I could work? No, it's like I don't want people that like my stuff to be disappointed Yeah, that would make me upset. I hear you Uh, I'm I'm like I said, I'm leaning towards just playing it in 4k Yeah, yeah, I'm getting a steam deck uh today supposedly so I'm gonna be fucking around with All sorts of shit on that. Uh, I'm curious Uh Do you do so, uh, that's the the breaking gist news. What did you actually do with your week, sir?

Um Besides like try to fucking throw my phone as far away as possible, uh Yeah, no, I nothing super eventful It's right there Uh Hey, if you if you don't look at your phone and to keep up with the news, how are you gonna know what's going on? I don't know. I don't want my phone to ping me that there's an imminent nuclear attack. How about that? I definitely don't want that. I I just I just want my phone to turn off or do nothing

Rather than a phrase like fucking imminent nuclear attack fucking hide like, you know what? No, let me just sit outside and be like, what's that? Huh? And then vaporize I only want my phone to ping me for one reason and that's because there's a new drill tweet period I don't I don't want my phone We weren't recording when you said that but I was laughing in the new world It really tells me that that is the only account That pings his phone when there's a tweet and that's the funniest thing in the world to me The only notification I have on fucking twitter is a new a new drill tweet just went hot. I need it

I need to read it right away Fuck the rest um So yeah, aside from trying to throw your phone away um, again, you know not uh insanely invent uh eventful, um, like I've like I said I've been hanging out with family and and I've been you know, um Doing doing some quality time um

I've been and I've been actually touching grass and and taking in the photosynthesis of it like quiet so uh, but I suppose what would be interesting is uh, just I guess looking up more street fighter six footage and like trying to um Get a feel for you know where What we know about it now how the collective knowledge base has come forward and what we've learned and um getting pretty again Did we talk about kimberley's double super? We didn't but a lot of fun stuff has been found since the beta has ended including the double super. Yes when you do

Yeah, take it away. Take it away when you do kimberley's level three super She turns on uh her walkman and starts playing a music uh a theme song that replaces the game soundtrack But Right and uh it plays for the whole rest of the game Uh, including next round and then she gets a little musical icon over her head and it buffs her speed and damage right, so She's at the groove if you're playing a kimberley mirror match and then the second player also does their level three it changes the the music again and it adds lyrics

Metal gear rising revenge and style So now you and so you can hear the lyrics to the the theme that was playing So much fun and that's the type of shit that it's it's you putting little details in the love, you know Love that man If this is a conversation that we ever had on the show But I know it's a conversation I've had with you three times And it's about cvs one versus cvs two CVS two has infinity fucking characters and modes and shit in it

But what cvs one has is adoration and love So much love went into cvs one like the the loading screen for the highway Is like a like a car chase that with the explosion Um all the little details It's the only capcom versus snk game that takes the gravity Of the situation of these two companies coming together and and like tries to deliver on that hype You know and and street fighter six is giving me a cvs one feel because How many how many times in a thousand matches you're gonna see that double kimberley thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah like like like maybe

Whenever yeah, right? How long is it gonna take you to naturally discover that jamie has seven taunts All dependent on his drink level. Yes, exactly forever. I saw the sickest clip all these little details add up Love a big feeling of hey, this game is made by people who are in love with it And there's all these this cool stuff happen. It matters man Um, I saw a clip that just like the future of street fighter and it's like Uh, uh ryu versus uh luke and ryu zoning him out with the fireballs hadoken Yeah, and then like jamey blocks jamey blocks walks forward goes Yeah, and then does an ex uppercut and kills him

Ken ken Ken versus jamey and just does a little fake And like in response to the real hadokens that ken was throwing out and then kills him and i'm like god damn That's the top for that moment a taunt while crouching. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm And his taunt while crouching is him holding out his arm and going come here come on Yeah, yeah, the thing the thing that you would always want to do as guile Uh the the the the the perfect win pose things as well. You get a little danced for you know, if you win or like, uh Jury we talked about her uh making fun of chun li and stuff like that

Uh, the one that got me is because muyunyu played a lot of jamey and jamey's got the drink mechanic Which makes him drunk and makes him a better fighter But he has the ability to drink after he's already drunk And he has a kick move He has a kick move that uh can end with him like dow like Downing tons and tons of booze while he's walking backwards and i'm like this this move seems like trash like he's already drunk What is it? um only to find out that when he drinks

In drunk mode he gets his drive gauge back and if you do the move where he's backing up while drinking You fill your thing from like zero to full Full gauge back and now like oh, that's great Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, even i mean i saw earlier when you were doing like Jule sips and i'm just like, yeah, hold it down, man. Hold it down. You can just you can steal safe Yes, right holding it But you can steal those sips, you know, uh, it's so it's so cool. It's it's uh, it's not alcohol energy. It's energy Yes, it's uh, it's herbal medicine. Absolutely. Absolutely. We're all feeling it, right? We're feeling the herbal tea

um so there's that game is just just It had the time and more is clearly had more time put into it than any fighting game we have seen in a long time Oh, yeah, for sure Everyone's been screenshotting the win quotes because they're all like interpersonal You know, like they're like and they have been for a while admittedly But like these are like, I guess we're gonna infer what the future holds from some of that stuff um

there's uh Yeah, and just kind of like people are kind of starting to figure out mechanically as well like um The the the stuff like drive impact, which you know was ripping through anyone trying to play footsies You know and you kind of have to learn to adjust there's been a Sort of a like, okay, you got to react to the paint splash You got to learn to see it coming respond in kind, you know And it finally gives a reason to just throw out random jabs um

If your reactions can handle it certainly Uh, and then you know and separate the the green as well. Make sure you see that differently there was a really also just something really fun and nostalgic because um uh over on the versus asia channel, uh, micross ran some sets using jamey against uh mar and playing luke

and man Just that vibe that just that nostalgic vibe. It was so fun just like watching them play and they're just talking shit and You know and like at the end of it like it like like mic is trying to make jamey work But he's having a hard time doing it, you know and marron's just fucking pressing buttons and and Uh having the luke experience not too dissimilar to the experience I had uh with both of those characters and I was just like, yeah, like it's that time again. It's coming back around, you know

yeah, um The we talked a bit about the leaks certainly about uh, you know, what people have figured out from the audio files with with, um You talked about geef, right? I did talk about geef Some of the other things we we did get though were that uh, well, you know I guess spoilers if you don't want to know about uh, one of the new characters, uh, but the new, um The teahawk girl, um lily

lily It's based on the the announcer dialogue It sounds like that is in fact teahawks daughter straight up. Yep. And she is got a move that's going to involve like Installing a wind blast of some kind So she's got the condor dive. She's got the condor aspire the teahawk moves that we know And then she'll be able to charge up and store some sort of wind blast um

and then uh She's gonna be aga nose Mina she's she's good. No, she's gonna be a taker. She's gonna be able to push you. Oh, yeah, sure our rachel Rachel alucard right the wind mechanic. Yeah um the uh, uh, Mina who is the uh, the french, uh fighter who's half judo half

Ballet, I think it was um Is gonna have Something called the meta system So she builds up really men on men on excuse me. Um She builds up meta levels And as she builds those levels up It makes a command grab way more like strong

so She's got some sort of system built around landing a command grab and if you build up her meta levels It's gonna hurt more. You know, um There's these little clips of uh, of uh, you know, james chen being like, oh man and the meta levels at max Are we gonna see it? You know, like all that all that kind of stuff. So, um Is such an interesting way to handle a grappler The fear doesn't come from the grab The fear increases because the grab's

strength Goes up over the course of the match or whatever the the level building mechanic is it kind of reminds You're in a weird situation. It's like, well, my throw is gonna do 40 percent. So you're gonna jump you're going to jump So when acahiko puts you in a block string in persona for arena And you keep blocking and his tornado level goes up Like you should have more fear when that shadow goes from blue to dark blue to red And you're like, oh god, whatever comes next is terrifying and it's like, yes that fear install moment is really cool. Um So she's all about this

They also Talked about kami having something like I called a shadow step I don't know what that's gonna be, but it might be just some some bleach it It might be her v trigger to uh, brought back again um Then they said, uh, jp who was the old man that looked kind of like g the cane. Yeah, yeah the old yeah so it seems like, uh, his whole thing is he's got some sort of reversal called, um Chernobog that's gonna be like fire and and and such and like the the way they refer to it as like letting it rip

So he's like, oh, he just lets the chernobog rip and it's like, okay. He's got some kind of dp thing going on there He has some sort of teleporting involved And like he's gonna use purple Shadow loo flame psycho power type stuff as well He could be another clone So who knows Who knows? And

Oh dj has a whole Motif based on the weekend like not the person but like enjoying the weekend weekend sunrise and weekend fun time He's all about jammin and whatever and One of his supers involves pulling up maracas So it his ultra two used to be he shakes them and then like does the the aura auras But seems like now he's gonna beat you down with maracas in his hands Um, and then another one of his supers actually starts a rhythm game And you have to keep the rhythm up. Otherwise you drop the combo

Is he gonna sound like that guy? I mean that might be a little bit wild Like you too much Yeah, they might you might we might just stick with uh, phil lamar and and him, okay, you know doing his thing, but um Show more stuff of street fighter six. Come on. Come on. Oh, no, where everyone's joneson Now that the everyone now that they've had a chance to touch it. We're all fiending and uh, I uh, I saw this from other people So I went and checked it myself Going back to strive is a problem because the matches are just so far apart

They are far apart, but I did I did go back to strive and I am and I am trying to You know scruff up on dust up on my uh my nago and and stuff the problem. I'm having is just returning back to um, the uh heaven purgatory because Uh, you know that the ranking system kind of just as I mentioned it falls apart When do you go from layer uh floor 10? Which is essentially a compression of floors 10 to 50 and then heaven which is uh celestial floor which is uh

floors 11 to infinity And it's kind of like that's just not the way you should have done this been so we just ping pong back and forth, you know, um But uh, yeah, that was interesting. Um Um, you know touch some rumble versus By the way, woolly, I'm gonna I'm gonna use this experience this this time to ask you When street fighter 6 comes out Uh, I'm gonna stream street fighter 6. I would absolutely love it if you would come on to my stream and play street fighter 6 with me

When that game comes out Okay I uh would like to Make sure that I can play and feel comfortable with with with how my my my sets, but uh, yeah All right. All right. All right. You never did this back in the old days the shit would just come out We just go over be trash We were trash that first day sf4 came out I I played I've played fighting games differently I I fucking I I lab man. I loved live time, you know

I love getting the I have the hand on information. So I've told I've told this story before but I want you to confirm it Uh, woolly woolly has always loved lab time always always always always always And the the one that drops into my head is that when me you and like three other guys were playing third strike sets Just for funsies there was some weird interaction between somebody super and like an air move And you went whoa, what's that and you fucking soft reset the console So and then just ran into training mode and we're like, yeah, let's try and do that again Meanwhile, everyone was like woolly what no we just we just we just want to play dude No one cares

I don't remember this but yeah, I uh Knowledge is power man. That's that's that's the only way I get that's the only way I get better You know, I'm not I'm not like my instincts can only take me so far Uh, I need I should I should probably learn something from you because uh boy I would have been doing a lot better if I wasn't trying that the wrong input to get the drive cancel out Right, right like that like holding down the the triangle and circle on the pad and dashing out of like normals was real tough So not everybody's gonna necessarily understand this because I know that it's just just play who cared like that's the looseness of

doing the thing But internally there's a like self Loathing system in place that is like you should know better And every time you do a thing that you're like, why did you do that dumb thing? And it's because oh, I don't know the outcome here. It's like well, then yes, that's that's fight. That's fighting games It is but it's also no like getting it's also the process of learning the outcome, right? And I know whenever I like when I Fucking do some shit where I'm like, why the fuck did you do that?

Right and it's like and it's and you're putting a weight on it So I'm like when you stop me out 10 0 20 0 30 0 and I'm like because I don't know the outcome of this thing yet I'm like motherfucker. You need to go learn those outcomes You know, that's I think the I think the funniest part about your story it's about learning outcomes because me and you are playing And I'm I'm playing against randoms for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours, right?

And then I play against you and I do something that worked on everybody else Which is they're gonna they're gonna do a jump in on me on my wake up to try and meaty my wake up And I'm gonna level three because no one would expect a level three and then I'm playing against you And I'm in the middle of doing the motion and I'm like Oh, this is so stupid Will you see me do this like literally a hundred thousand times over 20 years? And you block it because of because of course you are because I'm the I'm the only person stupid enough

To fucking throw out Fucking two corkscrew blows which is the sequel to good old rocky being the only person insane enough to throw out two Haddo bursts back to back Anyone? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah No, at the I mean at the end of the day you still you're still you and you still have your you still have your instincts And I'm still me and I have my instincts um, but like

it just like That feeling of being in a kiddie pool and being like Man Like if I only knew what was going on here I could like be with play with more like certainty and then get to the the part that's really fun when I know what's up and My mistakes are now based on my tactical errors as opposed to Straight up not understanding the system, you know, it's really interesting because everybody everybody learns differently, right?

I Learn through punishment Mm-hmm, right? So I can lab all day and lab all these different situations, but I need my instinct to fail To integrate it. I need I need Same me to try and do the thing that I want to do and have it blow up in my fucking face I'm not any different, right? But there are circumstances where you're like, okay

But like what has changed in my expectations of the system, for example That is like failing me here. Is it my is it my instincts or is it something different, right? And I and again This is the type of shit where I'm like I know to just someone who just wants to watch some fun dumb matches stop caring about that I'm like, I know you just you're like you're caring too much, woolly But I'm like, yeah, but this is why I love the genre so much, right? What you're hearing from me is part of what I love about it. Okay, right?

And the thing hold on hold on. No, no, no. I'm not done like like so the thing that is for example, what I found out was So remember that throw loop, right? Yeah, right. What was that? Was that srk trying to come out? So that was so that was srk's failing Yeah, based on the wake-up animation You're active before the animation completes. Yeah, I also actually found out after that Talking to somebody that only certain srk's are throw invincible on wake up There's oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it has to be like medium or something like that So ever since Street Fighter 5 they've been doing a thing where it's like truly invincible reversals must be exed

You have to spend a little bit of meter to get them and other buttons Shoryukens are going to be for either the fastest startup most air invincibility or other circumstances or juggle ability, for example, right? But or combo damage, etc The the but the thing is is that it's like the wake-up timing in that moment was not at all What my expectation it was of what it usually is So you start to I you input it and I'm like, well, why didn't that work? It's like because you were too late And I'm like wait, why didn't that work? It was like, oh, you're too late and I was like, wait, what's happening?

Our brains are so different because you're like you're like you're like the Fucking got math equations going off in the in the background and all this shit You know what my brain was doing during that throw loop. I was like, I bet I could throw him again Right, right, right. I bet I could throw him again. Now people that's it. That was the only thought in my fucking head so evil Grand finals Contains throw loops in it in Street Fighter 5

People at the highest levels of this game get throw looped. Um but like In this case I was like I had a moment where I was like Hold on a moment. Hold on stop My entire framing of what a reversal is in this game is wrong Right. I'm going to know I found that to be the case as well actually and I'm going to actively enjoy myself less Having this idea of what a reversal is and then finding out that that's not true. I need to know I need to

Um, so I go and I find out that yeah, you got to do it way way earlier Um, not to mention your wake-up options in general are in the corner. Uh, there's a whole mind game They're bad in this game. There's a whole there's a whole plethora of things you got to be worried about, you know, um But that's exactly it, right? That wasn't a matter of taking the throw That was a matter of the correct response is timed differently in this new setting You know, okay. Tell you what tell you what tell you I have a solution. I have a solution. Here's the solution Day of the game comes out, which is going to be Tuesday or Friday Right. It's one of those two, right? Come on over to the Pat stairs at show

We'll hook up discord. We'll just have some some dumb roll around the roster matches Right good old days then invite me on to Get in the fighting games One week later, which I assume you would still be playing Street Fighter 6. I'm gonna be playing Street Fighter 6 I guarantee you You will have labbed yourself to death

Especially in comparison to myself over that week Maybe we'll see but yeah that that sounds like a plan. I think um You can put the the the the pat at the beginning to the test thing because it is true Over time I get weaker Yeah, but I mean you're still a fucking you still play Street Fighter dude and you you you you know You take take your dogs like don't trash. Nah. What are you talking about? I'm terrible. I'm garbage I don't know. What's uh, what's uh, what's a spd? What is that some kind of? Some kind of salt you put in your pad tie. I don't know. What is this?

If I go watch your vods, is this the humility I'll hear while we were playing against each other No, oh, okay. No. No, woolly woolly. So I this was really funny because a lot of people were really confused Why I was so gracious and humble last week on the podcast After on my show. I was like Just shitting all over your you and your giant pussy And it's because you can't Do that all the time You need you need the the pussy. No balls get fucked. Shit only works if you can bring your friend back to zero

Okay, okay by being like a normal person for a while Gotcha. Gotcha. You need a reset. It has to go up and down. You got to reset. It's the only way If if if you're if you're just pussy. No balls Ha ha somebody's getting fucked every day Then eventually it'll get old and when you kick my asshole in at like 10 zero or something Then I look like I'm only being gracious Because I lost but if I ping pong that lets me option select into graciousness like I was humble the whole time Spelling out the strategy. Okay. Okay. I see it. I see it. We've always been competitive and street fighter

You've never you've never Like I feel like You know depending on help it. It's depending on other games If you don't if you don't play them as much then you might not have as much experience with it And I'll be and I would take it in a lot of situations Uh, most of them but um, and I and I you know like again, it always depends But I do feel like in street fighter like we've always been we've it's all you've always been pretty solid We've all it's always been competitive. I don't I can't remember like

Running away with it It's not like virtual fighter. That was like the most depressing day of my goddamn fighting game life Where I was so excited to play vf5 and you came over and we played it on the 360 And I discovered that years of playing vf4 evo against the cpu did not prepare me for a human opponent at all Because you just trounced me like 150 games in a row And I got like all sad and shit and it was is that what happens. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you trounced me Trounced me. It was sad

And you were like there there. I don't remember. I don't remember. I get good one day. I guess Geez, like and you were like like it was depressing. It was oh my god Yeah, but no, um in general in general, uh, uh, let us play some street fighter like the good old days And uh and see where we get to I will say that like The idea of having Character crisis on day zero is kind of hilarious though because I'm like I So the last match you did and then jumped off I kind of I exited because I was like, let me switch over to jamie because I played him a little bit earlier

And I was having such an easy time Just just winning with him and doing stuff and I was like, oh, you mean luke Uh, sorry luke. Yeah, and that would that yeah Yeah, and that was the one where you where you jumped off and I was like, oh, okay fair enough, right? No, he's he's out but um I like I'm like, man I can see right away that it's like jamie is probably gonna have to work You know, especially against like guile who was so incredible

In that like I'm and I felt this is not the this is not the fake graciousness. This is the real graciousness Guile versus jamie feels like a bad matchup I felt like that guile And guile in the beta in general and we're looking at it after the fact with other people's opinions Guile kind of felt like pre-release pot of potemkin a little bit It kind of was nuts. How much people are like, okay, but hold on though You cannot even react to a an ex boom walking forward. You can't block it in time It's like what round start ex flash kick. No, so

In in if you want if you want to put the if you want to put the fucking Like feet on the ground for for this Uh, I can I can adamantly go like for our for the entirety of my streetfighter six stream in which I've invited you I can vouch. I will not play anything other than a newcomer And oh no, don't do anything newcomer shit. Don't vouch anything. Let's just like you said you go down the go around the roster and You know and press buttons, but uh, but I'm absolutely just like every time I see an interaction I'm like, okay, how does this go down? What is it gonna? You know, whatever the the mind-hard body Jamie's a great example because it wasn't until like a week after the beta ended that I understood what some of his moves even fucking did

Yeah, exactly exactly and I'm thinking about how like, um Also, just like, uh, I wasn't I was trying to play normal footsies And getting annihilated by drive impacts when I should have been playing It's neo footsies. Yeah, it's a whole you got to play neo footsies You know drive impact becomes less scary when you're ready to ready to counter it, you know Drive impact feels like the perfect length because if I'm sitting there going I think they're going to drive impact It's like insanely easy to react to But in any other situation I found it to be unreactable

Like if I was watching for it, I could I could react if I wasn't I couldn't well. Yes. No, it's it's what um Uh, my good friend Thilo who's uh, uh talked about uh, you know High-level fighting game tech and whatnot has called an attention spike Right and what you have to do is like, you know, you have a moment of like in this next five seconds I expect it'll come and you get ready to react to it and then it doesn't come and you you decrease the mental stack again You build up the mental stack of expectation and then you decrease it, you know Um, but people who have been playing street fighter for years were like, but I just want to do Ryu crouching medium kick into head oaken the way I always do and play footsies and it's like that's gone now

It's funny because you have to earn that after showing you can react It did the footsies what third strike did to my footsies, which is Okay, they're wiggling. Are they gonna are they're gonna do low forward kick? You know, it's ken gonna do or chunlee gonna do low forward kick Well, I could try and parry that if I if I like felt it if I felt it I could do it and now it's like It would just fucking drive impact them through it Like it's the same it's the same process the only difference is the execution is a little more lenient

Though chunlee gets to blow up that whole mechanic for free like all her shit is multi hit, so Multi hitting buttons really good. Mm-hmm Blanca is probably gonna get to ignore some of it as well. We'll see man. I don't know what they're gonna do um I hope again as long as I Can maintain some ability to say fuck your fireballs because that's kind of what I really want in a character Whether it's blanca or nakali like I want the ability to kind of go. Eh, fuck your fireball, you know your zoning I'm going to call that out

Because zoning is a like you take a default right to the horizontal space of the stage And when I picked luke and had the ability to just like oh, yeah The horizontal space of the stage is mine now again And then whenever someone whenever I feel like it I can stall for a second and try to make you jump beta jump out or whatever um learning to walk forward and block properly the old school way the street fighter way is It's an old skill and

It'll it'll it's necessary um, but it's also just like If you fuck up How bad is the repercussion gonna be and that depends on who you're playing if you fuck up against jamie I keep saying jamie, but I mean to say luke pick up against luke It'll be you know, it could be rough you fuck up against guile That's it, you know, yeah, and you fuck up against man and when she's got level three meta sure sure sure It could be the end. Yeah

Oh, man, we got three command grabbers. Yay Hooray, I'm so happy I mean jamie gets a command grab, but you gotta earn it. It's not the same that is that is all No, it's a yin and yang. It's a yin and yang grab. Yeah. Yeah, so Anyway, um, no, it's it's fun kind of seeing the the post beta commiseration and knowledge sharing going on with this game and you know people kind of coming to like

I guess just terms with like, okay Old street fighter knowledge will only carry me so far This game is doing some wild new shit and I I I thought of Because there was a moment where I was thinking of a an analogy to the question that always comes up, especially on Getting to fighting games, which is is this a good game for me to get started with should I Start here or should I get this game and start playing it right? And Um, I mean the short answer is yes. There's there's no better time You know like as usual to to get in there's no better time to get in than the day it comes out

And and what I thought of was essentially if you would imagine that um When you start playing Uh a fighting game like street fighter six on day one That is everyone at a marathon That's going to run this race and they're at the starting line And then the day the game comes out is the gun being fired and you get to jog alongside everybody Now you will be seeing people who have run ran marathons in the past

Someone else who ran a marathon called street fighter three street fighter four street fighter five will be very conditioned and ready For the cardio and the body To take it all the way through at a good pace and there aren't they're going to have the knowledge to get them further ahead But that's really weird the street fighter three marathoners keep crouching randomly whenever another person gets near them. It's a But you're not necessarily to you don't have to be concerned with that person You want to have fun with other people who are doing a first time marathon Who are jogging right alongside you and you're gonna if you're going slowly

You're going to find a whole pack of people that are going to be pretty slow too But at least they will be there with you and that's how you're going to have fun going down this race But if you show up late to the marathon, you can still enjoy the run You can still enjoy the distance faster than the others to catch up Or have a sense of satisfaction for just accomplishing their jog on your own But you're not going to be with the others that are there that started that are at the same speed as you But they just came a little earlier. You know now you have to remember and this is really important Because if you start late, you might be a little bit behind

Luckily for something that's that's big and and popular like street fighter particularly if has good rollback There's always going to be shitty marathon runners Always you'll buy you'll pass by people take you'll pass by the rabbit taking its nap on the way People that are going to just taking a break who are trash Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, I've been playing a lot of rumble verse and uh You know, it's a very interesting experience at rumble verse You fight a bot and you're beating the bot to death and you're like wow

What a stupid robot and then you kill it and the name and the fame amount that you get makes it clear that no that was a player Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were just trash. They might have been a child Oops Fucking get good loser But but it amounts to the idea that essentially if you go now, I'll I'll just wait a bit and deal with and maybe I'll consider it later It's like fair enough But consider that the person that the people that are with you that are your peers that are learning together

They're gonna be further ahead by that point and it's and you're gonna have a less fun if that's what you're looking for If you're self-sufficient and you're like I want to play this so that I can reach the finish line And I don't care who's near me then you this doesn't apply to you But for a lot of people they're looking to enjoy it for the same reasons a lot of us do and that means you You'd be smart to start The day that the gun shot fires and we start running together, you know So, you know, what's an interesting version of this is that? I have a bunch of friends in my discord that are interested in getting

Street Fighter 6 And the usual thing that happens is that one a bunch of those guys get street fighter or a killer instinct or guilty gear or whatever Is that they they decide that the primary way that they're gonna play it Is that they're gonna log on to discord and shoot the shit and talk blah blah blah and play it within that group Right, which has a problem because it's maybe five six seven guys, right and the problem is Someone not necessarily me someone is gonna fucking rise up And and become the hard drive article right

And the issue that's always been is that the reason why playing with your pals is so much better Isn't just because it's your pals Is because when it's your pals you just get match after match after match after match after match And you can mitigate all the latency problems that you run into And you just you just spend so much more time fighting and Most of those guys don't spend time just hitting up random matches Because they're not enjoying the game in and of itself. They're enjoying it as a as a group activity, right? Six at the starting line

Is going to be big and the net code was excellent So it definitely enables more of like, oh, yeah, I really enjoyed playing with my friends on friday Maybe i'll get in a couple matches here or there Sunday morning or you know, what have you and then can rise that up Because the worst thing that happened to killer instinct was when I started playing general ram And I then ruined it for all of my friends because they didn't want to play against general ram because it was infuriating But i'm and they kind of all stopped playing killer instinct But i'm also remembering how over the years various games that you're like

Oh, that does look cool And you're like so I tried it and then I just got trounced on ranked and I was like man This doesn't feel good and you're like fuck this. Everyone's too good now Right. Yeah, and and part of that part of that is sour grapes blunt The other part is like when I when I wanted to get into three fighter five The experience of waiting six minutes to play a three fighter five match only to get trounced in 40 seconds And then go back to waiting for five minutes

Was miserable, right fucking hated it Weirdly enough xbox 360 third strike, which was a Not not Not the good one the the oe for the xbox Because that was all player matches and all player rooms I actually had way more fun playing that even though people would really beat on my fucking ass on there Because I could just get into more matches more quickly Also was third strike and third strike is just

Yeah, and I mean it's similar to like you jump on fight kade. You're looking for beasts, you know, like that's That's where you find them. That's what you're hunting for. So there's there's places to go for a particular fighting game experience, certainly uh but um, yeah the the the ability to fight You know you start pokemon and professor oak is like pick your starter by the way gary Started a year ago. He's already got four badges. Good luck

You're like, oh Well, it would have been cool if we started at the same time, but I guess I'll try to catch up You know, um, it's just like I'm thinking back to like I'm thinking back to Street fighter four and I'm thinking back to hey man. You want to come over and play street fighter four? Yeah, I love street fighter and a friend of mine came over and I picked adon And I was like, I wonder if I can beat him with adon's uh roundhouse And I did

And then you never wanted to play street fighter four ever again So in in my heart, that's obviously um a great experience for everyone But uh, then it meant I didn't have somebody to play street fighter four of my house Because they didn't want to anymore and then queue up the hard drive article uh, yeah

So there's a little bit of that, uh, and I guess one other thing that's a fun topic is I met legion And I'm playing mass effect two and we got to that point and uh, wow That is such a fun good cool thing to happen And everything that that implies So good and I was talking and we were trying to figure out I'm like Apparently there was there was discussion about like him like every character They didn't pick what order people were going to be joining you in. Uh, so everyone has lines for every mission

And like the idea that yeah So like they could have picked an order where he started With you in the beginning and I'm just like that would have been a horrible idea Because you're already getting your bearings coming back to life for yourself and trying to understand the new context of the sequel And to have this massive world recontextualizer already dropped into your lap would have been way too soon. It's so much Did somebody tell you that uh legion was in fact actually supposed to be the first character Someone said that and then as an a corrected to say everybody has lines for everything he was so in the original version of mass effect two after

um After uh shepherd's death you were supposed to play as legion going to try and find shepherd And the the bonus mission that is like the normandy crash site was supposed to be like part of his opening level He was part of the prologue Interesting, okay, and then they're like this is way too weird for people that didn't play mass effect one Okay, because they're like what who is this robot? Okay, that that's a Different game if they wanted to do that That's a different game where like from the first second you started you're like what the fuck

You know narratively that's that's crazy That could have been cool. That could have been cool. I like the jury we So you notice he's got like a piece of shepherd's armor as don't say anything about it. Yes. I did notice that No, so here's the thing There's no answer to that in game because it's a leftover from the design of his character when he was part of the tutorial Okay, okay, okay They're like that you ask him where he got it and he goes It's like that goes nowhere because it's part of a version of the game that no longer exists. I see

interesting, okay yeah, so The recontextualizer is really strong coming mid or late game Uh You can do it from the start, but that's a whole different plot man Um, and you're pulling a ride in on people as well. Yeah, you know, which you got it If you're gonna pull a ride in you better be sure about that It's it's just like every time you talk to the quarians and then they talk about the geth

You're like you guys sound like assholes And then you get to talk to a geth and the geth is like the most reasonable nice person you've met in the entire game It's so interesting. Well, so I had a moment where we were going as we're because we're you can And before we get to the flotilla I had a moment where we entered that like old quarian space and uh We were I was as we're visiting the planets and reading the codex Or the entries for them on the planet scanning I was like hold on a second. Wait, wait, wait back this up go to the codex

Pull up the fucking geth rebellion or the unaggressible whatever the the quarian war. Yeah, and um and read this again And then the guy sure enough goes and uh as soon as they became self-aware the quarians tried to kill them and In self-defense they fucking said, please don't you know I was like You know you kind of take for granted that everyone treats this as a Like full-on like oh no, they've become aware. Skynet is gonna kill us. Let's let's wipe them situation When that line was sitting there the whole time, you know, and I just I re and I like I'm so I'm glad I reread that Because then yeah, you get through that whole court scene

Where you know, like the bad guy is the one going up. Maybe we shouldn't try to go and genocide them you know and um And it's interesting and then here now You got to stop and take take a fucking minute and you can continue down that line and be like You evil fuckers we shot you you guys try to kill us the whole first game whatever I know you geth and he's like you've never met me You know, we've never met and just such simple one word answers when when necessary, you know and just like yeah Those heretics are nuts. They're assholes. Fuck those guys. That's not us

They're crazy. We hate them too when you're like, oh my god, man Fuck how they get like that. Oh, they answered a math question one digit off And it's not even an incorrect answer It's just a different one and that's it and and it's like they're in one especially They're clearly just putties They're clearly just robot antagonists that you're meant to shoot because this is a shoot bang rpg And you need something to shoot at and if it's not a krogen for hire That it's a robot man shut up. Don't think too hard about it. You know

And here you go gives you the nice tension because you've got moranda and jack that don't like each other for obvious reasons And now you got tolly and a fucking geth on the shit which I was waiting for that moment and it didn't happen I saw um, I saw some random clip of you just arguing with reggie and you're like tally just Shits all over leara man. You're crazy and I'm glad that you know what you're talking about um, yeah, he's crazy. There's a reason tally and garis are just like Widely super popular But also, uh tally has like one part of her that fucking sucks and it's whenever the geth come up She starts to get real real crazy

So where I'm at I try to force some sort of information and she hasn't reacted to anything yet We got one thing where we landed on to chanka and um, she says something to the effect of like Uh, yes, like to talk is all wasted and their home world is all fucked up Oh, no, legion says like, oh, we didn't do this back for the korean home world. Um, and You know tally is basically like, uh Shit, I'm fucking this up entirely but the exchange is essentially the geth did not destroy the korean home world So that it was unrecognizable in the same way that tally's uh that that uh to chanka was and she was like the the geth have maintained

The korean home world exactly and and tally was like, oh, well, we were expecting to get it back, you know Uh, effectively but not quite realizing that like the geth restraint Was in place, you know despite their fighting this all out like war the sacred, uh, you know to get their their home You talked to legion about the nature of the way the war looked from the geth perspective No, um, we have not done that yet. We've just talked to them about, uh, the heretic idea And the fact that like, yeah, this is not What most of them represent and then there was also the really fucking crazy detail where it was like by the way, um That's a fraction of a fraction of the group that is are the geth forces geth forces in total

If they actually wanted to war with everyone They have the numbers to do that They could totally do it the ones you've been shooting and worried about this entire time Are like a pittance compared to the full forces Right they can just make more Yeah So and it puts the it puts krogen into a different context Right and like the krogen birth rate was the whole thing, but like the geth can just make more geth

And they get more intelligent the more geth they make so this is the other part I'm waiting to find out more about but it's like legion is special because legion has a thousand or whatever however many in One so therefore legion can operate as a smart cluster geth However, yeah the average geth that I run into that's non heretical Which is an interesting choice of word by the way, that's cool that they choose that specific word, you know Well same thing that he chooses the name legion, right biblical The idea that you're going to run into a non heretical geth Besides legion that individual according to the codex should still be pretty

Basic and animal instinct rudimentary behavior by by itself. It's like a toaster Yes, yes, right and so that's where it's like, okay So don't also get it twisted legion is special as well You know the average geth you run into you should still treat them with respect And the fact that they they're self aware they have sentience and and you know But they're not all going to be like legion certainly, you know It's always been my interpretation that the reason why he uses the phrase heretical and the reason why he uses the term legion Is that as he is talking to shepherd

He is using his knowledge of earth history to use terms that would make sense to shepherd Yes, but he actually elaborates and specifically says, um, I like because you go you didn't say deviant or like defect or anything like that You said heretical and it was like, um, or it might have been an entry in the codex or I forget But it's addressed and it's basically like the implication being that that's because they believe in self determination and they believe in The geth who are her at heretics have the right to believe what they believe They can choose that path We're not going to inhibit that and inherently say that that's defective. It's simply a different conclusion You know, right? So it's akin to religious belief. It's not going to change whether

You have it's not going to change your rights essentially, but it does change the way We perceive you and certainly if you're looking to wipe us all out then we're gonna be against that You're talking to legion He's like we believe in the right to self-determine And meanwhile you go over and hang out with the legacy of cane gang on the fucking flotillo It was like we need to kill every guest that ever lived and fucking eat that Cyber chips. I I I don't regret my choices But I'm damn curious to know what it would have been like to walk into that courtroom with legion behind you

I'm damn curious. Hey, guess what? When I did my playthrough because I knew everything and all that there is a very complex series of events You have to do things in a very special order to drag him in with you And they don't like it Yeah, the flotilla doesn't like it They they don't like it Yeah, no that I mean that again, I'm like that must be a completely different fucking scene, you know Um

Anyway, it's similar to like dragging. Um, what's his name? Uh, it's you take uh tally and fucking A garris to morden's mission And they're like, why are you bringing me in here? I'm going to die What what are you what are you doing? um Uh, uh, uh, shit. What was the? Uh, there's there's something else. I was just thinking of uh, I forgot. Oh, yeah

Um, and then the other bit that was really interesting was I also did the um, the liara dlc Uh, the shadow broker stuff. Oh, and yeah, yeah And that's fucking interesting because it's like well one once again The dlc has all the community jokes and all the money and all the memes because it's post release so they can work that Shit in there, but the idea that's always threatening in the background of like Oh, who is the mysterious shadow broker? Let's uncover him to find what is that? What the fuck is that? What? What? And you're like, oh no

This world of sci-fi means you can meet something and go. I don't know what you are I think I think the shadow broker reveal is one of the best things in that game because It's a shadow broker. It's an information guy. What do you expect? You see you you expect like a uh, a spindly Little volus or you know some little man behind a computer thing and like no I can be a huge fucking monster That engages you in a boss fight because fuck you. It's a pretty fun boss fight. I can do whatever Yeah, also the fun thing about that dlc with the specter you fight beforehand too where it's like

Hey, you want to see what charge looks like from the other side? It sucks and you just fucking have a teleport battle. I'm like, what? Ah, man So, uh, yeah, that was fucking interesting and fun You know and then of course your reward is to sit there and read Like three hours of fucking amazing logs Those were incredible. Did you get uh, did you get legions fucking gaming? Not yet. We didn't walk back. Oh, they're good I got him afterwards, but I everyone has said

Um, be sure to go back to to check out his his data I want to talk about that specifically so bad he didn't read it, okay Yeah, in fact right now. I hold on. I'm just men's asking. He's like, yeah, do we put all that reading into A single episode or like nah, it's content Put that episode. No, no, that's that that's stuff. That's good stuff. That's good stuff Oh, did you get grunt search history? Yes Yeah sharks man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ernest Hemingway

Going through the books the audiobooks fucking deletes the one that's anti-war And then just goes back to sharks dinosaurs So you're you're way you're you're at the tail end of mass effect too and you're at the point where I really have to point out Again, it's something I've been saying about the mass effect series forever And it's like I don't at the point you're at I was like collectors who what who who gives a shit Like I don't give a fuck about the fucking collectors. I just want to fucking

Go to heists and fucking find out secret bullshit and read my team's emails Like I like I don't need to save the world, man I really don't So, yeah, we'll see we'll see we'll see where this goes but that that I'm glad that the I I said it before they're making up for the lack of like like Mass Effect one you feel like Kirk on the bridge, right? Yeah, or or stewart you you you're you're flying through the galaxy Landing on planets checking out what's going on. This is beaming back up and then onward and in this you're like no

we're on a mission we got to gather Oceans 11 and then go do it and everything is much more streamlined and rushed and action paced But you don't want to sacrifice the larger picture of the world build To do that and here um they found ways Have you been I'm sure asuna has told you that arrival is last Yeah, I've everyone like arrival is like after you beat the game. Okay. Yeah. Yeah Okay, because arrival came out like way after and was like this is the lead in like thing um

Uh Legion doesn't name itself. The name was given by edie. Oh, yeah, that is true edie jumps in on that conversation That is I love that. It's like I'm a AI. I'm a different AI Mass Effect says we should not be alive. Let's chat about what's up with that abominations unto the lord Yeah, and you know if you just listen to the at face value, you're given good reason to think like oh, fuck Yeah, vi is the way we need to do it because the moment they become AI We get a skynet situation and then you meet one In mass effect one who's an ATM that's trying to kill you

There's a side mission on the citadel where you're talking to a fucking bank machine. That's like I will destroy myself I see you there shepherd and you're like god damn it. AI does suck This isn't good. Uh, and don't forget the lunar AI that you have to take care of the moon mission Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Um, it was kind of nuts. So they give you Uh incentive and reason to like buy into it, you know Uh, but yeah, it's such a simple effective but edie sassy and legions cool You you a simple but effective line just you've never met me

You know done And you can continue to be insane afterwards too and be like, ah, I don't care and be crazy shepherd, but yeah Uh, anyways, so obviously, um Mass effect continues over on the channel as does bayo 2 having a good time with that Lots of fun. I bet that's some good times over at the bayo 2 world Yeah, I pulled out all my amiibos. They're sitting on the couch next to me And I'm fucking scanning them in and I'm getting all the costumes and we're dressing up and we're getting our fucking gems and our

Rings and you know playing I'm playing nintendo. I'm playing nintendo like I used to do I just saw something and I'm just like laughing internally like, you know, it's really funny The geth get a second shot at like explanation, but the petarians never that's the first thing I yes immediately after that conversation I I'm just standing there going wow Still nothing for the petarians also also. Let's be real the vortia like The vortia are goblins the vortia

Demons the vortia take the role that the old geth used to take You're now the disposable shoot monsters that are going to be bad guys going You know or beep boop boop They're putties they're all putties on vortia is like even it's like maybe the most racist thing I've ever heard in any fantasy or sci-fi setting ever which is they don't live long enough So like there's a couple vortia that like integrated in society, but because it takes them so long They basically spend like six years becoming like a normal person and then immediately die Yeah, so like most vortia are like that's stupid. I don't care. I'm a monster

Yeah, no the game is like you might be concerned about the fact that these are dumb monsters that barely count as people But don't worry. They don't live long Yeah, I guess so just step over them on omega As you make your way through the slums be sure to step over the piss And the and the vortia that just fucking is strung out And and you know feel no pity for their existence. It won't last much longer. I don't I don't And don't don't stare too They're less durable than the fucking automated robot guys that you shoot

Don't stare too deeply into their um Girono Giovanna holes I won't All right, uh, so yeah, check out the check out the playthrough. So we're doing that. We're doing bayo 2 And of course, you know getting to fighting games Uh over on willy versus as well as willy versus the algorithm, which uh Fucking great shit dropping over there as usual if you haven't popped in in a minute. Take a look We got melee grand finals outside quilags domain

uh blight con 2022 uh as well as uh Yeah, woolly versus whatever went up there as well so you can go watch us watching your trash It's trashed. It's bad. It's more of that more of that to come in the future I'm not going to be asking for submissions on every Uh one because the list is long enough that we can just pop. Oh, yeah. No, it's crazy. It's wild how many submissions come in So I'll probably ask for submissions. Maybe once a month at most Once every two months even and like when do we get low? We'll start asking again

But uh, there's more than enough to go a couple streams worth. So Uh, yeah, that's me All right, let's see. What the fuck did I do this week? Uh, I have to go look over at the list Okay, so I played a shit zillion tons of rumble verse Nice I played I played so much rumble verse Current what's your current favorite build? Uh Five strength

Uh three stamina to health um, and my favorite is dolphin dive with Um diamond cutter Yeah, sorry. Sorry ruby. Sorry ruby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh because because it's like the combo into Ruby crusher into dive into ruby crusher Into they're gonna stand the floor a little too long because they're scared Into dive into ruby crusher

damage It's good. Um, just die. Just die. I was running. I was running like, uh, some Um gas meta for a bit, you know, like like the poison breath stuff was pretty effective Not as effective anymore. I find people are pretty wise to it Um an hundred hand slap is just nice and comfy It's you know, it's it's just so easy to do in a bunch of situations And then you can decide to roll out of it or if you think they know you're gonna roll You can then not roll or roll late. Just wait a little bit. Just a little bit

But dolphin dive with either, um, um, whatever what a diamond cutter, um, um stunner still a cold stunner Or ruby ruby crusher. Yeah, or um, you do, uh, what I like is um tackle Right just a spear So, uh, you spear them you do the volleyball dive you pick them back up and you spear them again And like that with, uh, an build of like, let's say eight strength to life is death

I had a really incredible run in which I was like eight life to strength And I discovered that like originally I was like, oh, this is gonna be really annoying because I don't have enough damage to kill them It's like, okay. What I found was that they actually had a incredibly difficult time trying to kill me because Like a five strength full super would still only do half my health Like just just so If you give yourself sustainability and survivability. Yeah. Yeah. Um, hey there Susie

Uh, how how wonderful this timeline is, right? Yeah, I see a How you doing? Um friend of the show Susie the spear hunter in the chat. Yeah, we've had uh, we've had we had a big old big old Commiserating chat earlier in the episode Oh, yeah No, no, no, I'm saying you and I did earlier In this episode. I'm like, I'm like, I thought you were talking about the bao episode like she called in because I'm like, oh, that's cool

But no, you're talking about me Yes, yes, we we we We talked about all the fun of the fucking all the fun times. Yes. Yes Uh, so I talked to uh, let's see rumble verse, right? Uh, I played scorn Scorn is this generation's brutal legend Do you remember playing brutal legend? I do remember brutal legends. Do you remember playing brutal legends demo? No Do you remember watching a trailer for brutal legend?

Yes And being like, yeah brutal legend And then you start playing brutal legend and you're like, yeah brutal. What is this? What is this game? Not what it promised. Is this an arty? Yes Um Scorn is like that Scorn showed off an incredibly large amount of i'm wandering around in robot penis land

It's all a geiger and i'm gonna pick up a and i'm gonna pick up a gun And my gun's made out of dicks Whoa, cool. Um, that is a puzzle game like mist What that happens to occasionally hand you a very limited firearm That is a puzzle game It is not marketed that way at all every video Every screenshot is literally a first person shooter gun bouncing In your view and the and somebody pointed out and they're right and the combat is bad

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, but as a wander around a geiger-esque dick nightmare while Every form of machinery seems designed to create the most alien slash human suffering possible As you wander around getting just blasted with like robot cum Um It's really cool It's really cool Well, so the brutal legend analogy ends with the fact that that genre of switch was not what you were looking for

It's all yes. Not what I was looking for here and Is it does that switch then work? No So here's the problem it being a puzzle game And it being a wander around Try and figure out the puzzles uh to trap you into this incredible environment Like really 11 out of 10 presentation. It's so cool. It's so weird. It's so upsetting But

Then i'm like Okay, what's the puzzle and the puzzle is tower of hanoi Okay, what's the next puzzle? Move the Thing is going to spin around a circle and figure out where it's going to land so you can click in on it Okay, what's the next puzzle? um What order do I have to send this?

Elevator up to get to the next area and it's like Like it's it's the it's the most Fantastical possible weird setting and i'm sitting here doing slide puzzles So And then occasionally shooting a monster badly. How does it stack up to the other evil penis game agony? Oh, it's agonies a piece of shit. Agony sucks. Uh, this is a million times better, but like The parts where i'm wandering around and going uh

Uh, are the parts that are good the parts where you play the game are the parts where i don't care um like It would be better if it had no gameplay at all Or what if it just told you if it was a ride That i that you go through It would be more interesting or what if there was just no like gun prop in the corner That's popping up to make you think you're gonna fps it, you know because no the puzzles aren't very enjoyable

Yeah, I The swerve is a really risky proposition. It's not always a bad idea. Sometimes it's really cool Inscription is a great example of a swerve exactly. Um I can probably think of There's probably at least another one or two out there where you're like, oh, that was a good swerve but um Here that not in the brutal legend way. That's no good It's really funny because they the the devs recently have been like we told people it was a puzzle game

Unlike the fucking store page doesn't The fucking store page in the trailer make it look like a shooter. Okay. No, wait Yeah, inscription is a good swerve followed by a not good swerve There's two there's there's more than one swerve and then but then there's some cool swerve again It's three swerves first swerve good second swerve bad third swerve good again Scorn is really really really really cool Um, it is it is a game that I want to see Okay, it's not a game. I want to play

Mm-hmm. Okay, but the and the and the problem with this Is that the cool weird stuff that it has? Is the coolest weird stuff? It's like my mouth was a gape More during that than like for months combined prior like it's Out there. It's wild uh, okay but

Not good like the shooting is actually just bad Like it's bad. It's not good Uh, and you can and it also has one of the worst checkpoint systems I've ever seen There's no way to manually save and there's no indication of any checkpoint So when you finish playing you just have to hope it doesn't put you back too far Okay, that's just shitty quality of life. It sure is it sure is So I played that I played

One more gate a walkfoo legend that was sponsored a walkfoo game. Okay. Yeah, it's a walkfoo game. You know what it is It's sleigh of the spire It's a coward game that is like literally sleigh of the spire And it's a pretty good sleigh of the spire clone I don't know nothing about walkfoo I don't know nothing about it plague has told me some super cool shit about it And yeah, I saw his video, but uh none of that comes through it's walkfoo the spire It's good, but I can't see anyone go. Is it do walk food doofus or walk food dofus

I don't fucking know dude. I don't know. I'm not asking you I'm asking the universe. I mean, I'm here Um, but yeah, I can't see anyone picking up sleigh of the spire over it Sorry, I can't see anyone picking it up over sleigh of the spire because sleigh of the spire just kind of rules the roost on that But it is cool I played a cool little indie game demo called space tail, which is about a Russian space dog that gets lost. It's basically a metroidvania very kind of hollow nighty or like ory It's very clearly indie, but it's also really cool and has a very bizarre communication mechanic with

like enemies that you can Get them to do things for you That'll be coming out later. I only played a half hour demo, but it was cool And I have a man just tons of shit I played 40k dark tide Which is the vermin tide sequel, but it takes place in 40k That game is great

It's what what are you playing as in it? You are playing as uh, rejects of the imperium of man So you're playing as a regular imperial guardsman or an ogre or a cyker or a Inquisitor So not space marines not a space marine not a space marine And you're dealing with uh, like like the final boss of the game could be a chaos space marine Like that's the the the scaling. Yeah, that's what i'm that's what i'm looking for is just like really are you going to be walking around as a space marine shooting rats? Yeah, no, no, no, yeah, okay

You're you're you're the losers like one of the playable characters is a imperial guardsman guys who dies by by the trillions in 40k And it is a left for dead like like vermin tide was Uh in 40k and the setting carries it a lot the settings real strong and they use it really strong It plays really well. It has a really good mix of melee and shooting and they have the 40k thing where Shooting at enemies that have guns will suppress them so you can run up on them in melee and vice versa Nice, uh, and it's just really really promising and cool and feels great and runs So badly

I cannot believe the game is out in six weeks Like the game is just Just sweating and crying As you are trying to play it. Wow. It is it is falling to pieces So hopefully they they turn around the performance Uh in a couple weeks and you're you're playing it's it's we're playing with four people, right? Yeah, it is absolutely fucking falling apart. Apparently the beta is an older build, but like Fucking shit like nobody could get any fight to run over like 40 frames

Like no matter what you did to it no matter what you turned off Um, and we'd crash all the time And it was it's a it's fucking mess. So hopefully optimization helps that that kind of but cool very cool That reminds me of just for a second. I was like, we probably should have mentioned the like The parts where Street Fighter 6 is the beta the crashes and the nonsense that happened outside of the fighting And all the the fact that like walking around the lobby with a stick felt awful

Oh, yeah, sure did they really gotta you know, you know sf6 runs at 60 on the deck They people were running the unsupported beta Uh, and they were able to plug their fight sticks into it. So no shit So it will probably be At what a portable like like setup game They got strive doing that too as well. You mentioned strive last time when I talked about yeah Since like when it came out no, but since then it has been turned into a portable setup

Unofficially with fans with fan patches Well, no, it's it's officially supported now Oh, okay, but like you don't have to do anything Extra. Okay. All right. No, just turn the settings down a little bit. Don't run at max. Okay. Um And last but not least, uh, I caught up on 14's held a brand quest line. There's a specific reason I mentioned this held a brand is their goofy fucking

like model G mod fucking shenanigan quest line That they do every couple of years Where it's just like absolute slapstick zany nonsense And you'll have like characters spinning around and like the rigging on their face will just completely break Completely different in tone from the rest of the game and they're great

And the reason why I caught up on that Is the only reason I bring it up is because of the social connotation Hilda brand is going to be a mandatory step towards the relic weapons series that comes out tomorrow And I want to bring this up because seeing the absolute power gaming I play this serious video game fucking meltdowns when being told that the next step in best in slot progression Is locked behind a five-year-old series of gag quests That you must do in order to unlock the ability to start working on your weapon Has been the funniest thing I have ever seen playing ff 14

Just the absolute complete fury At like what do you mean? I have to play this fucking stupid Like these quests are so stupid. They're for babies. I don't care. I don't fuck Like it's Like there are sequences where you have to rub an old man with oil because of some stupid Slapstick shenanigans. Well, I was gonna say like when you say gag quest. What do you mean exactly? No, I mean I mean like loony tunes. Okay. I mean absolute

Oil down the old man nonsense oil down the old man so he can Become a fucking power ranger and and kick you to the moon nonsense And just seeing people just getting just like no don't want to how do I skip it? What's the guide to skip it the fastest? I don't I just want I want to start working on my fucking cool relic Because and like I hope to christ that the weapons are all like gag weapons Like they're all hideous

Like burly old men in the shape of swords Just muscle merch, but you're not absolutely But if you're complete if you're doing shit for completionists sake like The enjoyment of the thing or not enjoyment of the thing. I imagine it's almost divorced From your sense of completion duty Yeah, but this is the kind of thing that had never been mandatory for anything that actually mattered ever so People who want to do their relic and it's tomorrow

Uh are like well catch up on nine years of of of goofy silliness and It's just some people just got no levity at all And when they're playing their serious game about cool stuff We'll just lose their damn minds If something is like not to their taste humor wise or just It's just funny. It's just really fucking funny and tomorrow it's gonna come out and the Like the the weapon crafting process. It's always like oh, you gotta get old memories and this mineral and you know MMO shit

It's gonna be like you need to pay money so you can Fucking oil up godbert So he can just do Some stupid suplex to your art. You know, it's it's gonna be silly And I and I can't wait For just just the the fucking meltdown about it. I'm so excited. I'm so excited Just people being mad that they're being forced to do something silly is so like heartwarming to me It's it's that's like you you humorless pieces of shit

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On thursday That's also gonna have a let's watch thing With something that I don't think has been announced yet and then on wednesday I'm gonna watch that konami silent hill thing All right, they announced well, let's start there They announced a konami silent hill thing There is a teaser website for a new silent hill thing it will be revealed this wednesday and

There's not much on the website except for a date After you enter your um Your your birthday and of and then it forces you to accept cookies, which fuck you Um and a little message on their twitter saying in your restless dreams. Do you see that town? So Yeah, uh Let's get let's get a fucking let's see how the remake is gonna look then shall we let's see what this is gonna Fucking look like

Okay, who what could it be? What could it be everyone? What could it be? Let's let's see The pachinko the new air the new age I mean I can tell you what it is It's um, they're fucking they're gonna remake the damn thing, of course They're gonna remake they're gonna remake two and it's bloober team doing two. Yeah, yeah And they're also gonna put out what's probably i'm not sure what it is, but it's been rated It's a teaser probably called the message the short message

Yeah Which was yeah rated in korea And then and then they're gonna add a new ending in which Uh There will be a a a good ending to just uh Uh off yourself because you should have never tried Because that ending was already in yeah, but then there's but this is gonna be the bloober team version Oh, it's gonna have low tier god in it

Now It's gonna have electricity And uh and thunder yeah So here's the thing there's only one part so i i'm like, uh Right There is one thing that does Help a little bit

Have you been to masahiro ito's twitter lately? I have not He is counting it down Ah Which if masahiro ito The guy who's like you think too much when people send him screenshots of like the dirty ground or Yeah, pyramid head should not be like this or whatever is involved in Anyway

You can then just be like A little you know because it's pyramid head man. Yes. Yes Um Wasn't there also a tweet about like Some time ago about like not owning pyramid head or something like that or he doesn't but I mean he designed him Yeah, um So that's cool if they if they uh, you know, certainly are going back and reaching out the only question of course is just like Okay, so based on what you've uh told me about bloober team and their work in in other games and

the medium Um not a lot of great things But if you're following a color by numbers template If you're connecting the dots that have already been laid out for you Could this not still be good? It could be I mean i'm gonna have to cover it I'm gonna have to know I have to know

Konami I have to know What's the last konami? That'll cure survive. Yeah, it really was wasn't it? I'm like was there anything since survive No Somebody asked in the chat a really interesting question that's the pertain specifically to silent hill Which is how did bloober team become the care torch carrier for silent hill and the answer to that question Is the same way that team vatra became the torch carrier for silent hill

And it's that they were the only people that wanted it and they just showed up and said can we have it and someone at kinami went? Yeah, okay, sure Um that yugioh dual game fucking popped off that shit got really popular Uh, they did do that That's a true Um kinami goes People love silent hill so like teams from like europe just show up and be like

Can we do silent hill? We'll only ask for 20 bucks and kinami goes. Okay That that's how that happens Like compared to that that happened like four or five times in a row Man post pt world something else Just what that name meant at that time, you know What all those names meant really?

I mean You know, i'm just like overwhelmed I'm gonna try to think like they're they're gonna put out a trailer for silent hill too And it'll probably hopefully it'll be like a minute two minutes long like a real trailer What would be The biggest like instantaneous red flag to you Right, uh Because you you're deep enough now. You're right there back in 2004. You played them. You enjoyed them, right?

You get it, right? What would just jump right out at you as like, oh shit I mean if this is a remake of Of the first game Um My rest of streams. I see that town. Okay. Um message is likely going to be a teaser about james receiving the letter Okay, if I saw a footage of Heather or harry running around

I think I think that might be super fucking weird So to me extra extras I I just saw somebody in the chat say it. I'm really glad to me The most like because because i'm not expecting it to be outrageously terrible Like shit all over the screen. I imagine the first trailer is going to be somewhat Impressive right because it's the trailer and they're putting up an event right now. You can make it the trailer look nice So i'm i'm thinking more subtle And I just saw somebody say it so i'm really good for you, uh man

They're gonna show off talking to characters. Mm-hmm, and they're gonna turn to laura And laura is going to be voiced by an adult doing a child's voice And it's just gonna like just the voice acting suck it all right out of the room the voice acting and it's like that character is a little girl And it's one of the only actors in any game that is so obvious that is absolutely a shitheaded little girl And it matters. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm If voice acting doesn't like have that weird

Silent hill Like cadence to it Uh, that's gonna be a miss right off the bat. Absolutely. Yeah, that'll be annihilating um Actually, there is another answer as well. Yeah, uh, which is actually the second story Which is If you see anything that has to do with konami's other announcement Which is their plans to move forward to find people to work on metaverse projects and blockchain stuff for their games

Metaverse you mean that thing that One of the richest people in the world has dumped hundreds of billions of dollars into That they have to beg people inside the company to use because they can't even get Like bugs fixed well the most dramatic failure in modern history I mean that are continue to watch facebook die a boomer death, you know I mean at the end of the day that thing's not making money for them either um But keep pushing it though. It'll it'll you'll catch on someday sony home at home

PlayStation home or whatever the fuck And and second life all of that jazz um Yeah, there is a news release from konami digital entertainment Uh that basically says they're looking for people who are specialists to work on new experiences in web 3 and metaverse And they're going to continue their development into researching in-game nfts

And distribution platforms and blockchain and strengthening the structure of their business Uh for new kinds of digital entertainment So, uh anything projects being linked anything anything about their second announcement really I'm really not worried about that at all Gamers don't buy metaverse shit. And then the joke is of course that no one does I'm seeing um people are also concerned People are also concerned about a morality meter. Is that a thing in like um In the medium it's it's uh, I don't know about that, but I mean under the hood. There's a

depression meter in In sound hell too, but it's under the hood Miss my wife button Like you know in shadow classes you hit the button and goes aggro aggro It's like maria. I'm sorry mary Mary mary I'll tell you one thing if the if there was a one thing If the if the ending was determined by a button dedicated to looking at the photo

As opposed to just going into the inventory and doing it manually that would have made more sense If there was a random button that was stare at wife button And you didn't know what it did it would have it would have been a bit more of a like Oh, maybe I should do this every once in a while Hey, listen, um devs make all sorts of weird shit. If you had told me that double helix was gonna make killer instinct I would have been like, oh god, that's gonna be trash. No, they did a great job. It's always possible Right that they can pull it out

I remain Pessimistic It's a blueprint There's a there's an existing thing you got a copy and just don't add too much of your own shit to it And don't fuck up that blueprint has super super weird directions Yes, like make sure the character looks like the actor because And someone who is in tune with why people like these games

Should be able to parse that out You know That's the thing. Um, I just I just I'm like I'm like deeply I'm like afraid. I'm like afraid that like James are you all right? I don't know. I had a hallucination. It must have been that vaccine. I took before I got here Oh That was the source of everything Just like I like part of me is just expecting like just like let's double it down. Let's just go

Let's just go The moral of silent hill too is vaccines made me kill my wife Um See the the thing is though like I also don't know Um Like is jumping straight to two past one Also a good idea like wouldn't it it's fine. It's totally it's totally yeah

Because I mean with re right like wasn't the idea kind of like Well, everyone loves too, but like if we're gonna be doing this and like building it from the ground up then um Meh No, the thing with re was like should we We did remake and it was great and people are therefore asking So like people have not been asking for remake of remake because remake is incredible and still looks immaculate today But it's still not like ported right

Remake one. Yeah, it's ported. It's gotta it's kind of modern release Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, totally because because silent hill I guess it's just like doesn't it seem Like I don't know. I guess if you go for the one that is like, you know, I guess the best selling in the most Demanded two stands on its own the best mm-hmm Yeah

Yeah If they do if they do if they if this is successful, then they'll do one and then three and then We can see a attempt at four because that would be interesting wouldn't it I mean the other way to do it would be you do one and you see if you even can do this And if it's gangbusters, then you use that momentum to go forward and make two Even better with all the lessons you've learned You know, no just start to start with two It's got pyramid head and it's got the triangle man

He's scary. He's dead by daylight. That's the mascot But Anyways, you know what was interesting about going through three It doesn't have A pyramid man. It doesn't have a recurring villain. There's the recurring villain is claudia yeah, um, um and and and and um The what are they called? Vincent

no, no, no, no, no the um The the the big monsters have a name um insanity insanity Cancer insane cancer. Oh, that's a regular enemy It's got multi l but that's different. That's no and and and everything is is character specific. Yeah Anyways, uh, we'll see what happens with that shit the Other thing that happened um as we continue into this just wonderful week so g4 tv shut down and uh

Hey, shout outs to gerard. I'm so sorry, buddy. That sucks and immediately afterwards the completionist gerard exactly He was like, hey, this tweet is how I found out. I lost my job. How neat which once again for the nth time Uh, it's it's so it's so cool when the announcement of the company shut down is Uh, how people who work at the fucking company find out about it Such a cool move good priorities in order everything up up and up, you know, that's how we found out about machinima Sure did. Mm-hmm We're sitting around

Uh, uh, it's post breakup and we're like figuring out how the machinima shit happens And then we just look on the fucking internet and like machinima's gone And we're like what it's just gone And then we try to reach out to somebody and they're all dead. They're all gone. It's like they never existed at all Hello, you've reached spirit halloween What uh, what costume can I find you today? It's like why bother why bother Honestly because this man gained because we are people that they lost their job

Because I am panicking and packing my parachutes full of loot And wears and I'm making sure that it's gonna work when I jump out of this thing I don't have the time or the decency to give a fuck about anybody around me The building is on fire. The titanic is sinking everybody for themselves But sir you lit the building on fire everybody for themselves Um Did you see the

Long lost pilot for the kingdom hearts cartoon series I fucking did not There is an 11 minute pilot For what would have been a disney animated kingdom hearts tv series and Apparently one of the uh, let's see here the animatic was a part of This artist's resume and uh, let's see here

Yeah after the kingdom after kingdom hearts won disney was planning on trying to figure out if they can make a show based on kingdom hearts Uh, and you know what you watch it and it shows you like sororiku and kairi hanging out on the beach and then Some stuff happens and then they go to agriba And then oh my god, and it all endottled and goofy are there and i'm and it's like, uh It got claimed as well and taken down. Yeah, so you're gonna have to catch it catch a re upload. Um, but Uh, in fact, let me just

Out boop boop. There you go Um It's 11 minutes and you know what after watching that i'm kind of like i want to watch that show I would have watched it You know i'm gonna look at it now. Yeah, it's like Obviously you'd you'd replace the the storyboarding with like cleaned up animation and such but I would have fucking gotten into a little kingdom hearts cartoon with uh

Yeah, fuck it. Why not disney had all sorts of trash on the air two short stories per half hour episode you know um They got little cartoon noses as well in the in that art style, but It it seemed from what little i've seen of kingdom hearts to pretty much capture and summarize what those events were like you know And then eventually it could all lead up to the parking lot so

yeah Uh, in fact, it uh, it also would have been an interesting way to Summarize the events of of some of those games if you were trying to Get really sure would have Get your way through to the later shit. So yeah, so you don't have to hear. Oh, uh, uh, uh, it means hearts It means hearts. Does it mean heart tarzan? Oh, uh, uh, uh, fucking that piece is that fucking level is terrible And then maybe there could have been a disney animated episode dedicated to sephiroth

That would have been pretty good Um, that would have been pretty good. Yeah, so it looks like disney's taking it down everywhere But uh, you can yeah, you too. You can catch a reuploader that if you if you search um And there's a there's a world in which Standing next to the akatsuki cosplayer at the con is the organization 13 one because they can just buy the same coat at the same guy Yeah, yeah Yes

Nice and easy. There you go Uh Do they all have a little like keyblade necklace thing as well or yes Yeah, there you go. Just a little accessory and a little cloak and you're ready perfect, um Well, there is a light at the end of the tunnel Uh, it's been It's been a week of darkness

it's been all It's been all shadow, but I can see a light coming up Yeah It is my pleasure to announce to you that diva

An overwatch too has made it to the top of the porn hub search list Congratulations Congratulations your claps are being cut out by your your I guess that makes it much better actually the champion the champion You know for a while there It got a little it got a little do questionable got a little doozy stepmoms stuck in dryers were taken over

and You know milfs are a whole other thing that you just you got to put an army together and you need a team You need a team behind you and diva had that team and together They were able to overcome the odds and make it to the top of the porn hub search list Um, congratulations to diva if you know this but uh last week or maybe the week before um the an account Just posted like Basically, hey, we ripped the models. I saw I saw and that that tweet got more play than any overwatch announcement of literally all time

All official announcements, correct um Yeah, uh the specific specificity of the uh the search term Was uh overwatch diva with no period because you know, there's no time There's no time to put d dot va. You got to just you got to just write it all together. There's there's no time Didn't last however, uh eventually um

It dropped back down to eighth place Oh darn, you know, um, oh no wait hold on my correction uh Overwatch two was eighth place ah, I see uh diva's still up there, so um, uh hardy congratulations to hannah song

And uh and her team well done. It's still still the funniest thing in the world to me The most pathetic thing i've ever seen in this business is randy pitchford getting on to it. Hey, man. Did you guys see there's these porn porn? That's crazy. Hey, hey, hey Let's Let's not let's not battle born shame anybody. All right. No born shaming Oh, I don't like that. I don't like we don't need we don't need to born shame anyone over here I I hate that so much

I oh my god with the e with the e in it. You got to spell it directly That's just That's just awful. That's one of the worst things you have ever said Oh Oh, it's good good good good good You got emails. What are we getting away from this? We got some emails Castle super beast mail at jmail.com is where you send the letter if you'd like us to read it or not Uh, here's one coming in from uh, joao says as per a quick note, uh

About willy and reggie and mass effect two on old west's drawing duels The old west duel was based on the southern style duelo Which itself was based on the 1777 irish duelo rules Uh, these were created to prevent vendettas and already accounted for the use of guns as all duels Uh, as all as of all dual types honor As all as of all dual types honor was the major point

If you shot first you were the aggressor and as such had no honor Drawing second but faster and shooting first was viewed as skillful and in self-defense. Yeah So we talked about I was explaining to reggie how the whole point of the like Good the bad and the ugly style stare downs with the gun flickering in the hand and stuff Is to get someone to pull their gun up on you first because Self-defense is okay, but shooting someone in cold blood is murder. Therefore that's stupid as fucking shit So the whole game of like cowboys standing out in in in you know, town square at high noon is If you pull your gun and point it at me first and I kill you before you pull the trigger

I self defended and we're all in the clear No, just swing first No, you gotta you gotta swing second. No, just pull it out and shoot them swing second hit and hit first Dumb ass fucking idiot motherfuckers Uh my honor though, how about you be honorless and alive you piece of shit. That's that was the game. That was the game. So Um, here's my duel. I shoot you in the back through the window while you're on the toilet If you take a look at call of Juarez gunslinger Each level has a dual boss fight to get the good ending. You have to maintain honor in all of them

Some guys even go for a fake out and twitch a lot. It's easy to win a duel. It's damn hard to win an honor duel To win it's hard. It's damn hard to win with honor Um, so yeah, just clarifying that idea Sure, man in fact The final form that duels ended up with before they were outlawed in most but not all places was the idea that To get our dignity intact

We'd walk outside and do all the paces and and go through the motions And then when it comes time to fire, we both are going to shoot above each other's heads And then call it a draw But the point is Whatever our argument was we were willing to die over it And that means with a witness and uh standing next to it They're like, okay, you both proved your point. You were willing to shoot them to shoot him He's gonna shoot over my head. Then I shoot him and he's dead. That means my point was right. Okay. Well, that's that's Hamilton

That's literally Hamilton Good good good Good die Listen, I'm not gonna attack anybody or shoot anybody But if I was in an era in which I was actually pissed off enough to pull a gun I'm not gonna do this bullshit where I'm like, oh, maybe I'm gonna prove my point in society But like no, I'm gonna fucking shoot shoot him. He's got a gun. He could shoot me. What if he tried to shoot me? I have to shoot him. Well, that's honor

That's the point now you that's how you do it honorably Okay, well, I can I he can explain his honor to me while I'm pissing on his corpse Yes, yes, well And his wife is crying I guess he didn't have enough honor to shoot me first I mean, there's an entire book series sitting on my shelf here called vagabond in which honorable samurai duels aren't worth The fucking shit on the ground

If you're dead, so, um, that's exactly it At the end of the day, it's like, hey, man You can stand there and get stabbed or you can grab that dirt off the ground and throw it in that dude's face And tackle him to the ground and hold his sword arm And while you're holding his sword arm, then you stab him and it's like you won the samurai battle What if what if I what if I what if I like, okay, we're gonna duel at high noon, right? Okay, and then he's like standing there and like I'm not there Because I'm like in a building hiding behind a window and then I just shoot him

Shoot him or you reach for the Or you talk about fighting at high noon and you reach for the gun in the cereal box And then you just go for it right there and then yeah good Dead people don't have no honor Or humanity no they're dead hence the battle without honor or humanity Uh, anyways, there you go Swing first Um

We got one coming in from Uh What's your tag here, uh None, okay, so by the way, there's gonna be a Resident Evil showcase on uh, October 20th, that's the thursday thing that i'm gonna be watching are they gonna be showing off reverse No, they're gonna be showing off Resident Evil at four Okay, it's about half an hour long and they're gonna show off the dlc for eight and more re4

Michael says red and scornful pat Now That will he got to legion in mass effect two but not to his loyalty mission I want to bitch about one of the worst parts of me too the fake out Uh to do all missions before getting the iff The game has set it up and tells you you have to finish the machine now All right Canceled

Uh, here's one coming in Uh from unnamed rocket grunt who says Hello magma admin woolly and skull grunt pat Need your absolute judgment on my actions. Hopefully to prove my friends that i'm not just straight up scamming people Hustle or grift Pokemon edition. That's not what it was. It was hustler scam. No, it's you're getting it wrong It was hustle and scam and then the pokemon one was hustle and flow Well, that was the two different versions of it. Yes. Yeah, and there was and there was then there was hustle

And then there was no there's hustle loyalty and respect I think we kind of like landed on with the different it was hustle and flow man. I remember hustle hustle and flow Yes, no hustle and flow obviously from from the fucking from the bit Um, yeah, and then there was a fun Then there was a third version that that came around which was uh, it was biggie tupac and then uh, uh, andre in the you know Okay, so it's hustle or or scam, but scam is grift grift is scam. Sure. Sure. Sure. Anyway Segment is hustler scam So i'm part of a cosplay improv group based on team rocket from pokemon

We dress up as grunts and we run panels at conventions We do quiz shows game tournaments and people have fun come have a good time all unpaid I decided last year to try and make a little money on the side at the con Uh, most cons have a swap meet type event where you bring your old anime junk to sell it at a discount and people Uh show up and attend so on, um I purchase a plot at the swap meet and then I buy around 150 bootleg pokemon figures off of amazon for around 35 bucks Then I dress as a team rocket grunt and I sell the figures as a part of a game I put them in a big pokeball shaped bag customers have two options

Both cost a single american dollar. They can either reach their hands in the bag without looking and grab the uh two figures Or I open the bag fully so that they can look for 30 seconds before picking out a single figure I've done this twice now and people seem to have a lot of fun doing it I've had a few people come back with their friends to try and go to the atm and pull out a crisp 20 coming looking for 20 random pulls Um The first time there was a con with 300-ish people. I even sold out. I don't lie about what i'm selling But I leave my fate to you Unnamed rocket grunt

This is absolutely a hustle because you dressing up like team rocket and putting it into a game is adding value to the experience There you go. It's in it's diagetic. It's it's in kayfabe Everyone understands that they're dealing with a rocket grunt and the whole point is to get ripped off With counterfeit pokemon by the bad guys. It's a ton of fun. This is pure hustle That being said you literally just manually invented a gotcha machine for your with your own body like it's and when you It's not new what you've done here But people are coming for pulls, but they're literal pulls. They're reaching in and pulling out A thing, you know, I guess you could feel it to see what kind of what you got, but this is the purest most uh,

Undiluted hustle. No, it's a straight hustle. Yeah, you bought something for cheap and then you figured out a context in which you could flip it for more It's like it's barely even hustle. This is just a like a You congrats. You found out a cool little way to make money the team rocket get up is like 99 percent of it Maybe that's what really makes it put a non a non bootleg figure in there just to like up the scam Add value and play into the full rocket That being said don't get caught nintendo will fuck you. Oh, yeah, for sure. But uh, good stuff. That's fun. That's a lot of fun All right

I'm good with that is done and now it's all sunshine and rainbows Podcast defeated. It's all done. And now Back to uh, just a completely uneventful uneventful life in an uneventful time And there won't be anything that immediately comes out and has a bunch of people going. Oh my god next week though. Holy shit You